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Speaker 1: Hey, we are there some relationships and arguments that you

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Speaker 1: can't come back from? Or are there some argument you

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Speaker 1: can't come back from at all?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? You don't. Your butt doesn't look good in those genes.

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Speaker 1: No going back, dude, it's done, it's done away. But

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Speaker 1: we got a couple your butt looks.

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Speaker 2: Creating those genes.

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Speaker 3: Jeh.

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Speaker 1: But hey, we're in a beautiful hotchkiss park right now

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Speaker 1: in Santa Monica and we're going to get into this

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Speaker 1: first story. So my wife decided she wasn't in love

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Speaker 1: with me and left? How do I get her back?

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Speaker 4: John?

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Speaker 1: How does how?

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Speaker 2: You don't you give up?

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Speaker 5: All?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 1: This comes from Andrea's nineteen and they say, background, we

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Speaker 1: are in the US, M call major East Coast city.

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Speaker 1: What's M call MCL? Is that a thing that you know?

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Speaker 2: M call? No clue, no idea.

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Speaker 1: We own a house and a car. Income is jointly

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Speaker 1: two hundred k plus, okay, split more of less, split

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Speaker 1: more or less equally. Expenses are divided equally. Both have

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Speaker 1: master's degree. Political and ethical values are almost exactly aligned

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Speaker 1: across all subjects. So it seems like match made in heaven.

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Speaker 2: Great, nothing can go wrong?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh, things will go wrong. Oh, I think

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll see. We have a normal social circle somewhat

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Speaker 1: diminished by COVID, with regular interactions, weekly brunches, sports watching,

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Speaker 1: I observe. I have all the sports teams.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, name one, the Knicks, name another,

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Speaker 3: the Lakers. Okay, name one in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: The Minnesota Pipers, Timberwolves.

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Speaker 1: So, I am on great terms with their family, her

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Speaker 1: mother and brother and visit three to four times a

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Speaker 1: year and they stay with us. My parents visit five

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Speaker 1: to six times a year and stay with us as well.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of parents. That's like every other week

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Speaker 1: you have one of your parents the great As far

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Speaker 1: them as well. Both of our parents are relatively are

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Speaker 1: and relatives are extremely supportive and friendly. Life has been

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Speaker 1: basically on easy mode for the last five years, which

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Speaker 1: guess life to hierarchy. Yeah, that's hierarchy. You need I

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Speaker 1: need struggle. I need drama, or you just listen to

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Speaker 1: Okay storytime and then you have all the drama that

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Speaker 1: you would ever need. But we are doing great financially,

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Speaker 1: maxing out far one k and saving for our kids education.

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Speaker 1: Everything like it seems like it's going great.

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Speaker 2: Literally nothing.

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Speaker 1: Also, Rightley, is this camera slowly dipping?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 2: That is fun. I like this. I'm just head it's

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Speaker 1: He's just gonna slowly.

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Speaker 2: Get that's so bad. You get to produce?

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Speaker 1: I got you don't.

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Speaker 2: Riley's got it.

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Speaker 1: Raley's got it.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait wait wait, this is actually better.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's it needs to be tightened.

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Speaker 1: So, uh we're maxing. We're doing great financially maxing out

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Speaker 1: We're both calm and rational. Fight frequency is about three

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Speaker 2: John? How often do I fight? Not often? He's not

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Speaker 1: Think is maybe you shouldn't keep track of all your fights. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: boy kimberly find Sam saw this coming. That's why he

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Speaker 1: Like hot and cold, hot and cold. I know she's

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Speaker 1: to normal. There's no yelling, no physical violence or any discomfort.

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Speaker 1: It's more of I need some space to myself right now.

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Speaker 1: So literally everything in Op's life is fine.

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Speaker 2: I hear nothing wrong.

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Speaker 1: I hear nothing wrong. But will it be long or

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Speaker 1: Riley Riley's always asking how long things are?

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Speaker 2: That is true. Yeah, I need to know why, just

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Why why do you want to why do you

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Speaker 2: Computer as long as yours? Riley. Thanks.

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Speaker 3: Uh, the generator is too short for the computer, so

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Speaker 1: Riley is a man of lengths that you should go

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Speaker 1: it was a joke, then an attempt to get me

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Speaker 5: I think there's this is a classic. There's something going

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Speaker 5: I need drama. It's why rich people's skydive and and

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Speaker 2: And you know that you need some sort of thrill.

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Speaker 1: Everything you eat thrills. Yeah, scoot scooch on over nice,

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Speaker 2: We love that.

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Speaker 1: Sophia Callen says she met someone else.

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Speaker 1: Maybe everyone's saying she has a side piece. I literally

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Speaker 2: She's trying, she's trying to find the next thing.

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Speaker 1: Trying to we' 't see. So I offered counseling, taking

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Speaker 1: Everything has been dismissed.

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Speaker 1: The thing has been dismissed without any thought. Furthermore, I'm

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Speaker 1: not getting a further explanation. Then I'm not in love anymore.

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Speaker 1: That's all. That's all. That's all she's getting. Dude, there

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Speaker 1: are more twists and turns in the story than Riley's

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Speaker 2: And that's a lot. That's a lot.

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Speaker 1: That's saying that ladies and gentlemen really just tighten those things.

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Speaker 1: we don't need to do We always need new things.

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Speaker 1: Riley return new truck, Sophia Collen says, but not cheating.

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Speaker 1: Sophia Collen says her new boo is the excitement she

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Speaker 1: He's just gonna handhold right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that is that the big I'm driving it

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Speaker 1: all right. Furthermore, I'm not getting any further explanation that

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Speaker 1: all right. So I'm not in love anymore. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: I'm there's no further explanation than I'm not in love anymore. Okay. Now,

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Speaker 1: admittedly the intensity of the romantic feelings have declined. But

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Speaker 1: I thought this was just the natural cycle of being married.

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Speaker 1: Has it stabilized with age?

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Speaker 6: it's not it's not only it's an old joke, but

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Speaker 2: No, it does.

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Speaker 3: Only someone with wiz them could figure that out.

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Speaker 1: at him. So natural cycle being married, intense romantic attraction

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Speaker 1: I find her attractive and it came as a complete

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Speaker 2: We had what that's just sad boo.

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Speaker 1: We had disagreements in the past about the spicy sleep

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Speaker 5: Tim Ferris, who for context like tracks things, tracks everything,

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Speaker 6: I think it's more like a chess, like a speed

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, time starts out.

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Speaker 1: I've been playing a lot of speed chests recently with

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Speaker 1: my friends and actually Riley too, Rightley pet me the

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Speaker 6: No, no, I'm really bad at chess.

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Speaker 1: Oh. Also shout out Linda for the five Gifted memberships

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Speaker 1: and mad Hattodal for the five Gifted memberships, and Diana

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Speaker 1: Garcia for the twenty dollars super Chat and dollar freaking

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Speaker 1: supporting the stream dreams supportive. There's one that I did

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Speaker 1: So so her the wife, She's like, hey, I need

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Speaker 1: So what advice do we give John as the most

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Speaker 1: And sometimes it's not the answer isn't in the analytics.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. That to me is like he's done pretty much.

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Speaker 2: Long ago, on her own. According to now, she's finally

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Speaker 1: Which is not like if you have a committed relationship.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's never a good No, you shouldn't

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, but it seems like that might be what she's done. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: No, no, she she wants to stay with the kid,

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Speaker 6: No, when she leaves though, it is my point.

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Speaker 1: When she leaves, Oh, I don't. I don't know if

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Speaker 6: Gotcha?

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Speaker 5: And well he said like like the second goal is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so first it's like how can we stay together?

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Speaker 2: All the right thing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it feels like, yeah, I feel like the main

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. So it's just trying to juice a

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Speaker 5: Like if the roles were reversed basically, oh if like

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Speaker 1: No, I think I think she is not like I

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Speaker 1: The fact that she's trying to keep Op's like son

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Speaker 6: Is like howss his goals?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how to address his goals because it's not it's

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Speaker 6: About her at this point. It's more about like him

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Speaker 1: Tony Spilaco says he tried talking, but is he tried

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Speaker 5: It seems possible. This is it's a big infra. It's

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Speaker 6: She he's got.

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Speaker 2: Maybe if if we want to take this and run

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Speaker 5: His like like just over bearing, over analyzing, just talk

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Speaker 5: Edgeway's nature that She's like, I'm done you as soon

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Speaker 6: I'm tired.

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Speaker 2: That's a big guess.

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Speaker 1: So you you kind of compared me to this guy,

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Speaker 2: Also, to be clear, I was comparing all of the

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Speaker 5: Qualities about that guy, and I was just trying to

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Speaker 5: don't don't go crazy clipping and having all those theories

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Speaker 2: Okay, say I love him. Okay, I love you too.

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Speaker 1: John.

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Speaker 6: of marriage, you know, because he's saying, oh, well, we

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Speaker 6: do all this stuff, and it's, well, I don't know

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Speaker 6: if theory good, but I don't think you want to.

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Speaker 2: Be running the marathons and ceiling around Greece's complacency.

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Speaker 6: She's saying like, oh, and I'm not saying like I'm

449
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Speaker 6: signed with her, but like she's saying, it's it's just fine.

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Speaker 6: But you don't want to just be complacent. You want

451
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Speaker 6: to like have joy in the relationship, which she should

452
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Speaker 6: be talking to him about it, but I don't think

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Speaker 6: you can.

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Speaker 1: Like it's maybe it's like maybe she's brought all of

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Speaker 1: these things to him and his solution has been, like,

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Speaker 1: let's make it actionable, and that's why they have all

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Speaker 1: of these things that should represent connection. But at the court,

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Speaker 1: it's like they're not connecting from something deeper and something

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Speaker 1: more fundamental.

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Speaker 5: Also, maybe like their their definitions of like what is

461
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Speaker 5: like what is exciting and engaging is now very different.

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Speaker 5: Like Sam loves going to the the skate park and

463
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Speaker 5: and doing all this stuff. I like shaking my booty

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Speaker 5: cheeks in a dance class.

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Speaker 1: Right next to sometimes he shakes his booty cheeks right

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Speaker 1: next to the skate park where I skate.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, So at the roller rink, people have different have

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Speaker 5: different views of what's like exciting and engaging.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's now misaligned between the two of them.

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Speaker 1: But if maybe I mean, I want to discuss and

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Speaker 1: read some of your your comments and chats right now,

472
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Speaker 1: but maybe we could have someone call in and give

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Speaker 1: their perspective on the discord. Cool, So if you want

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Speaker 1: us to bring you up on the show, cup, call

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Speaker 1: in and and message us on discord, message Rily specifically

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Speaker 1: on Discord. Trisy Ada says, it just seems like there's

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Speaker 1: a ton of missing info here, whether that's intentional or not. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wish, really wish there was a we only have.

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Speaker 6: His side, his sides we usually do. Yeah, there is

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Speaker 6: one story today that has two sides. Actually I love those.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Lessandro Rivera says Sam, I don't know her side. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we don't know her side, so obviously, you know, we

483
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Speaker 1: can only ever judge these things from from one side,

484
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Speaker 1: because that's all we have. But I think we try

485
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Speaker 1: to give as much advice as we can in this situation.

486
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Speaker 1: Amanda says, it sounds like they're in a stage of

487
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Speaker 1: parenting a very young child, which is exceptionally difficult and hard.

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Speaker 1: It would test any relationship when you have small children. Yeah,

489
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Speaker 1: what sounds like is the relationship change upon birth, and

490
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Speaker 1: so it's like she's giving all her time into this

491
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Speaker 1: child and that Yeah, that that is difficult.

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Speaker 2: Changes things.

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Speaker 1: It changes things for sure. I would be curious for

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Speaker 1: anyone who you know has had young kids, what does

495
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Speaker 1: it do to change your relationship in your priorities? Imagine

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Speaker 1: it changes a lot. Right now. Alan Foster says, I

497
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Speaker 1: don't trust the storyteller. If you don't trust the storyteller,

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Speaker 1: then what's the point of reading it.

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Speaker 6: I think you can get I mean what's the point

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Speaker 6: of reading like Catcher in the Rye. He's an unreliable narrator. Yeah,

501
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Speaker 6: but we still read him in schools.

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Speaker 1: And I think also, it's like, like I think what

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Speaker 1: we do is we assume what we're hearing is the truth,

504
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Speaker 1: and even in stories where maybe that it's it's not

505
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Speaker 1: the complete truth, you still learn a lot about how

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Speaker 1: to navigate these relationships. Like every I think something that's

507
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Speaker 1: cool about this show is each one of these stories

508
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Speaker 1: teaches us how to nowgate relationships a little bit better,

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Speaker 1: just by kind of going through the scenarios of like

510
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Speaker 1: what would you do in this situation? The thought exercise,

511
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Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's the thought experiment. I think that's like

512
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Speaker 1: I've learned to navigate relationships better by hearing these stories,

513
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Speaker 1: and I've learned which avoid.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you can also take away things. Even if you're

515
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Speaker 6: suspicious of the narrator. You can be like, well they're

516
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Speaker 6: saying it like this, but I can get advice and say, like,

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Speaker 6: for example, for this story, we can say, ask your

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Speaker 6: wife if there was anything you know, like if there

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Speaker 6: was anything that you did, yeah, and like have that

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Speaker 6: dialogue if there was anything missed, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, if I was to ask something to Ope, I

522
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Speaker 1: would say, what are your wife's reasons? Yeah, for wanting

523
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Speaker 1: to leave? Yeah, and like because we don't have those,

524
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Speaker 1: because we don't have those, And I don't think like

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Speaker 1: there wasn't a point where it's like I asked her

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Speaker 1: what the reason was and she said this, you know,

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Speaker 1: it was just like, Oh, let's work this out, let's

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Speaker 1: go to like, you know, let's spend time more time together,

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Speaker 1: let's go to a counselor. And I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: even done the work of understanding why she's doing it.

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Speaker 1: He's he's already just going to solutions. Yeah, a problem

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Speaker 1: that he may not even understand.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's okay, he doesn't understand. He's like, I don't

534
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Speaker 6: know why she's leaving.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't understand.

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Speaker 6: I have to understand that.

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Speaker 1: But Riley is going to be pulling up someone on

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Speaker 1: the discord someway, we got someone. Well, while we're pulling

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Speaker 1: that up, Sarah Neula Thanks to the ten bucks. Have

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Speaker 1: an update. I posted a story today on Amma a

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Speaker 1: hole for making my senior father and stepmother homeless on

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Speaker 1: the sub Love you guys on the subreddit Huge sounds

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Speaker 1: like it maybe we can pull that up for either

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Speaker 1: this live stream or next one. Uncle Daddy Jesse, thanks

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Speaker 1: for the twenty dollars.

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Speaker 5: Daddy's in the chataty Uncle and Daddy always supporting the.

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Speaker 2: Stream can go.

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Speaker 4: On.

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Speaker 5: Foxy Cat thanks for a five bucks package sent in

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Speaker 5: the mail today. Please let me know which stream you

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Speaker 5: open it on. It's from Foxy Cat Miniatures. The box

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Speaker 5: has gold tape on it. Foxy Cat will will be

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Speaker 5: on the lookout for that. And then Asian Persuasion and

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Speaker 5: I said the whole use name. Thanks for the two

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Speaker 5: bucks cracks my phone today. I don't know how long

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Speaker 5: it'll last rip. Asian Persuasion and I literally want you

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Speaker 5: to take a screenshot at one percent to show your

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00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 5: commitment to this stream. Yeah that you stay with us

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Speaker 5: all and put it in the discord.

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Speaker 2: That is correct.

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Speaker 1: Also yesterday John accoluent Agent Persuasion, that was the members

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Speaker 1: only stream. So that's true.

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Speaker 5: I just mounted myself for no reasons. Asian hold yourselves accountable.

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Speaker 5: And Diana Garcia, thanks for the twenty bucks. Excited that

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Speaker 5: I caught this live before going on a long road trip. Diana,

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Speaker 5: many people actually put on our content on the road trips.

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Speaker 6: If I might make a suggestion, Yeah, if you were

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Speaker 6: thinking about listening to whatever podcast we do.

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Speaker 2: Have like the most like catalog of like any show

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Speaker 2: on planet Earth.

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Speaker 1: You have almost two thousand videos, chrisy and now every

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Speaker 1: video is an hour. You could listen to Okay, op Okay,

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Speaker 1: story time, non stop you story.

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Speaker 2: Times, the old out.

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Speaker 6: No, I was gonna say, like old.

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Speaker 1: John, old John, Oh God, oh God, but Riley, do

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Speaker 1: we got this person pulled.

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Speaker 6: Up angry jees its baby cheese. It is healthy, baby cheese.

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Speaker 1: It was our first yeah, first baby born on stream,

580
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Speaker 1: almost our first child, our first okay baby. That's right,

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Speaker 1: Diana Garcia, thanks for the twenty bucks. S Matt Hattergall

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Speaker 1: thanks to the five gifted memberships. And Linda, thanks for

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Speaker 1: the five gifted memberships. Angry cheese it that's so cool

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Speaker 1: that we have like a baby. We collectively are raising

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00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: this baby baby. Yeah, finally catching alive since the semester ended,

586
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Speaker 1: you guys announce the name change on my birthday and

587
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Speaker 1: almost broke my heart. Baby cheese it too well, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're sticking around for a while longer.

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Speaker 5: Imagine she birthed the okay baby and then killed the okay,

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Speaker 5: shall her birthday.

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Speaker 6: It's like Tricia Patis and the Queen. Y'all know that, Laura.

592
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 6: So basically just this thing where Tricia Pads will name

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Speaker 6: her child like a YouTuber, very big YouTuber, Like I

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Speaker 6: don't know, I don't watch your stuff, but but there's

595
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Speaker 6: this thing like that. A lot of TikTok people have

596
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Speaker 6: been talking about where she'll name her baby after one

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Speaker 6: of the like rulers. So she named her first baby,

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Speaker 6: I think Elizabeth after Queen Elizabeth. Name it after dictators

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Speaker 6: before no no, no, a week before. I don't know

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Speaker 6: if this is the right timeline, but like very close

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Speaker 6: to Queen Elizabeth's death. And then I think she named

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Speaker 6: her other child after another royal.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so what they're saying is she is predicting the royals.

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Speaker 6: She knows, she's like the baby's born and they take over.

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Speaker 1: That is crazy. I hope that does not happen to us.

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Speaker 6: That's my point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wells two bucks, it takes two to make it

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Speaker 1: work out, and she has checked out completely.

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Speaker 2: Agree.

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Speaker 1: Tay ninety nine thinks to five bucks. Just made it

611
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Speaker 1: home from work in time to catch a live stream,

612
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: time to unwine and relax while listening to Okay, story time,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, and then finally but Tika water

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Speaker 1: and thanks to the one buck. Sometimes it's easier to

615
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Speaker 1: just do things by yourself. I became a single parent

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Speaker 1: even before I got my divorce my ex husband because

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Speaker 1: even though he was at the house, I asked him

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Speaker 1: so many questions and asked him to help, and he

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Speaker 1: just didn't do it, okay, which, yeah, maybe maybe that

620
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Speaker 1: is maybe that is what's happening. But it seems like

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Speaker 1: oh p is trying to help, and Sophia Wanna.

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Speaker 6: Apparently I got the the lore the Trishia patis lare wrong. Uh,

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Speaker 6: I guess they just they were born right before.

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Speaker 1: But much to talk about it, Yanna Tanza's okayop tattoos

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Speaker 1: are still in? Yes, okayop tattoos are very much still in.

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Speaker 1: It shows that you're og. Yeah, it's legacy. It's legacy,

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Speaker 1: you think for the ten.

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Speaker 6: Bucks currently at the hospital waiting to have my baby,

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Speaker 6: thanks for taking my mind off.

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Speaker 2: The ball another okay, baby, can we have it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Can you send it when your baby gets born?

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00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: Can you send it in this in the discord?

633
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: Can you send it through the po box?

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Speaker 1: Can you create a video of your child entering the world.

635
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: Can we can we line up the end of the stream?

636
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just play the video, actually live stream the

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Speaker 1: video of the baby.

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Speaker 2: Can I can announce it as we close out?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: We love you and welcome to the world.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the world. Yeah yeah, I'm just saying request

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Speaker 1: time it dive it come on.

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Speaker 6: Tiny Cactus corrects me and says the Tricia Paitis law

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Speaker 6: was that the queen was going to be reincarnated as

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Speaker 6: her baby, so that it still works.

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Speaker 1: It still works, still works. I have no idea about this, lor,

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Speaker 1: but I do know about this. Next scroll up rightly,

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Speaker 1: scroll scroll I do know about uh oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: there's so many grim whispers. Thanks for the one twenty

650
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Speaker 1: two first time seeing a live Kira from New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Belma Williams into the five buck hard day, but

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Speaker 1: you all made me stop smile trying to do our

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Speaker 1: best the Sondra of very things to the ten bucks.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to you, Agent Persuasion. Thanks to the two bucks.

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Speaker 1: I meant the screen has the lines of death rock

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Speaker 1: and roll MoMA. Thanks to the five bucks. My ex

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Speaker 1: of four years left me because I was pregnant which

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Speaker 1: we had planned. She's now nine and has never met

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Speaker 1: her dad as he doesn't want anything to do with her.

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Speaker 1: I also found out that he was cheating our whole

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Speaker 1: relationship but a single parent since rock and Roll Mama,

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Speaker 1: I am so sorry about that, but honestly, dead Weight

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Speaker 1: probably better off without her. Heart's in the chat for

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Speaker 1: rock and Roll Mama, you're rockstar and mad Hatter GALLANX

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Speaker 1: to the ten bucks. How does Hatter relax after mailing

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Speaker 1: out twenty orders, watching Okay story time and playing Withering

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Speaker 1: Way with is that?

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Speaker 2: Wither?

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Speaker 4: Is that?

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Speaker 5: You know? With?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 6: I just know how to pronounce whthering.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's just.

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Speaker 1: Go to the discord and get some thoughts on this story.

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Speaker 2: All right, we have.

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Speaker 3: You have a lot of like deadly gamer. All right,

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Speaker 3: we are calling right now. You know if you can

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Speaker 3: hear it?

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Speaker 1: Can you hear It's double gamer, deadly Gamer.

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Speaker 2: They're hopping on. You're on mute, Hello and lower low.

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Speaker 1: Deadly Gamer on mute, deadly Gamer, deadly Gamer, you're on mute.

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Speaker 2: We want to hear you.

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Speaker 1: Oh hello, hello, can you hear us?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 6: Hi?

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Speaker 2: How's it going?

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Speaker 1: Deadly Gamer? So you heard the story? What do you

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Speaker 1: think do you think uh OPI is listening enough? Do

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Speaker 1: you think Opie can do anything to save the relationship?

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Speaker 1: And also, if not, what do you do about the kid?

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Speaker 4: Hello?

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Speaker 6: You can hear me, right, could you?

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Speaker 5: I think the YouTube might be playing in the background.

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Speaker 5: It would be best to turn that off, but might

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Speaker 5: get a little.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I got you, sorry.

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Speaker 4: Right, So I would just want to say thank you

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Speaker 4: guys for having me real quick, like I've had a

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Speaker 4: shitty day and this makes it better.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we're glad you could come on.

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Speaker 4: So I'm I'm. I was thirteen when my parents got divorced,

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Speaker 4: and I just want to say, if Opie stays with

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Speaker 4: her and does not get divorced, it will become miserable,

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Speaker 4: not just for that child. I am the oldest of

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Speaker 4: three and I have been prentified so much since two

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Speaker 4: thousand and four. And when my mom told me when

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Speaker 4: I was thirteen they were getting a divorce, I didn't cry.

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Speaker 4: I was happy because I've been waiting for that for

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Speaker 4: so long. Wow, it's better to Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that I they were talking about and so

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Speaker 1: sorry that happened to you. But like that that idea,

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Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, let's stay together for uh, until

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Speaker 1: they're eighteen. Usually, no, it's not worth it.

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Speaker 4: My mom, I'm my youngest brother is sixteen, and to

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Speaker 4: this day, my mom looks at me and she was

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Speaker 4: nineteen when I was born. Yeah, and she looks at

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Speaker 4: me and says, to this day, I wish I left

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Speaker 4: your father sooner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I guess, like for Op's for a no piece case,

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Speaker 1: like your advice would be leave sooner rather than stay

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Speaker 1: for something that's not working.

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Speaker 2: You good to hear from you, Yeah, because you've actually

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Speaker 2: saw it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've like actually been through it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I And I just want to say, like, OP needs

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Speaker 4: to protect that child if you go through divorce. My

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Speaker 4: father saub poenaed me at that very same time. It

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Speaker 4: is something that OP needs to protect. He needs to

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Speaker 4: fight for that child to stay out of that courtroom

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Speaker 4: no matter what. Because I was almost put in front

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Speaker 4: of my parents on the stand to talk about both

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Speaker 4: my parents.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which I mean would be so hard as a kid. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: So sorry you went through that. But I think like

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Speaker 1: that that's a really important important point because with with OP,

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Speaker 1: I think like there's there's the idea of like, oh,

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Speaker 1: maybe he has to pursue legal recourse to manage this

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Speaker 1: thing with his with his with his child and his wife,

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Speaker 1: maybe like taking more custody, like by force.

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Speaker 2: But ideally keep it out. That's what my father did as.

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Speaker 1: Much as yeah, keep it out at the courtroom as

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Speaker 1: much as possible. So sorry yet to go with that,

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Speaker 1: but thank you so much for sharing your experience.

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Speaker 4: Gamer much about what happened in the courtroom. I could

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Speaker 4: come up with a whole story.

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Speaker 1: On it, submitted to the subreddity we're here.

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Speaker 4: Definitely I have to work on writing it down proper

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Speaker 4: because I got tons on like my whole life.

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Speaker 6: You would have a whole series.

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Speaker 1: Please, you know what. We're excited for the first installment,

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Speaker 1: Deadly Gabor. Thank you so much for calling in and

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Speaker 1: giving your your perspective. Thank you for making my day like.

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Speaker 2: Again touch out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's always I mean, like so sorry Deadly Gamer

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Speaker 1: had to go through that, but like it's really I

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Speaker 1: think an important perspective of how like how on on

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Speaker 1: eggshells or how careful you have to be when navigating

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Speaker 1: a divorce and is potentially a contentious divorce because like

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Speaker 1: the kids involved and you don't you don't want to

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Speaker 1: have the kid be affected by that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's great.

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Speaker 5: Like if anyone's listening to this story right now or

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Speaker 5: anytime in the future and kind of goes through something similar,

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Speaker 5: it's like, uh oh, staying together for the kids is

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Speaker 5: actually probably like not only the better thing, but the

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Speaker 5: way worse thing to do. Hearing from someone who's gone

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Speaker 5: through that experience and like just making the number one

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Speaker 5: priority protecting the kids is Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I've honestly like, again and again I've heard staying together

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Speaker 1: for the kids is like not a good idea. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like again and again, and so I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: it's almost it feels like a common myth. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: feels like it need to be disproved.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's it's going off of like the idea of

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Speaker 6: the nuclear household and that anything that exists outside of

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Speaker 6: that is bad is bad, which is not true.

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Speaker 1: No, I think what what Like, it's not about maintaining

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Speaker 1: the nuclear household. It's about maintaining the sanity of both

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Speaker 1: parties in a relationship. And if both parties in a

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Speaker 1: relationship are happy and healthy, they are better. You can

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Speaker 1: be better parents, and you can you are better fit

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Speaker 1: to take care.

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Speaker 6: Of the child, taking care of your mental health is like,

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Speaker 6: you don't.

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Speaker 2: Need a nuclear family, you need a bomb family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Now, I don't believe in trickle down economics, but trickle

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Speaker 6: down mental health, mental health, trickle down mental health. The

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Speaker 6: people who are at the top, if you get their

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Speaker 6: own mental health stort it, it'll benefit those on the bottom.

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Speaker 1: That I'm ready for you to make the at speech.