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Speaker 4: You know who it is, your boy Jada. You know

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Speaker 5: Today, that's like when you come up there, you want

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Speaker 4: Every show legendary, every show iconic.

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Speaker 4: There's not enough flowers to give. But we need to

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Speaker 2: Check it out. When you think of today's guest, you

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Speaker 4: A Hall of Famer. A World Series champion. A Yankees legend.

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Speaker 4: He was drafted in baseball, basketball, and football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Baseball, basketball, and football? Are you hearing what he did?

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Speaker 2: He was drafted in baseball, basketball, and football.

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Speaker 4: A true multi-sport phenom before that was even a conversation.

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Speaker 4: And now he's telling the whole story in his memoir,

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Speaker 4: Touching All Bases. Ladies and gentlemen, animals, insects, aliens, people

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Speaker 4: Dave Whitfield!

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Speaker 5: That's the introduction, you know. I'm glad you appreciate the intro.

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Speaker 5: I forget some of these things, you know.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, this book that I just finished, 30

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Speaker 1: Touching all the bases. Touching all the bases.

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Speaker 2: Because everybody loves you here. Right.

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Speaker 5: And like we just look at you as like a superhero.

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Speaker 2: See, I'm older than him, Dave. Okay. He's finally admitted. Youngblood.

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Speaker 2: Like, this is like, you must have been watching this show, Dave.

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Speaker 2: That's our whole thing in this show. I got you.

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Speaker 5: But I'm sorry to stop you. The kids don't know

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Speaker 5: I think they just drafted somebody real high that never

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Speaker 5: I'm realizing, and I've always realized you a big guy, right?

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Speaker 2: You know what's crazy? I just had a concert in St.

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Speaker 5: Right. I got to tell a quick story. It ain't

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Speaker 5: Busta Rhymes come, stand back, enjoy the show, right? We

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Speaker 2: I'm going to miss everything. Spirit Airlines? Right?

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you a true story. They get me a flight.

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Speaker 5: There's only two coach tickets left to go to New

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Speaker 5: Me and Rich doing the O.J. Simpson through the airport,

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Speaker 5: I got on coach one time and sat next to

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Speaker 5: the Beverly Hillbillies. The little kids was throwing potato chips

437
00:23:15,050 --> 00:23:18,729
Speaker 5: in my face. Y'all got so violated. They were jumping

438
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Speaker 5: over my neck.

439
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Speaker 2: No, coach. I literally, and I'm a humble guy. I'm

440
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Speaker 2: very humble.

441
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Speaker 5: But I literally, every day of my life, I pray

442
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,060
Speaker 5: to God. One of my prayers is, Please let me

443
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Speaker 5: fly first class. I do not want to fly coach

444
00:23:35,820 --> 00:23:39,620
Speaker 5: again in my life. This time, I had to get here,

445
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 5: so I'm about to go coach.

446
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Speaker 2: Check this out, Kiss. I'm walking, and I see Busta Rhymes.

447
00:23:46,490 --> 00:23:47,510
Speaker 2: He's first class.

448
00:23:48,050 --> 00:23:50,210
Speaker 5: So the first time I got to go coach, I'm like,

449
00:23:50,330 --> 00:23:53,409
Speaker 5: holy shit, Busta's going to tell everybody.

450
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Speaker 3: Yes.

451
00:23:56,660 --> 00:24:01,470
Speaker 5: I said, my God. It had to go like that, God.

452
00:24:01,950 --> 00:24:06,869
Speaker 5: What did I do to humble me like this? I'm

453
00:24:06,910 --> 00:24:11,010
Speaker 5: walking to the back. DJ Scratchitore gets up. He says, yo, Joe,

454
00:24:11,270 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 5: where you going? I said, long story, four flights. I

455
00:24:14,619 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 5: got to go to this Jay-Z thing. He said, yo,

456
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 5: you can't go back there. I said, yo, Scratch, where?

457
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,390
Speaker 5: He said, the Don don't sit in the back. Take

458
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Speaker 5: my seat.

459
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: Now, I usually would argue, you know. Nah. Nah. Right?

460
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,250
Speaker 2: I don't want no favors like that.

461
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Speaker 5: I looked at him. I was sweating bullets. We ran

462
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Speaker 5: through there. I said, Scratch, I'll take the chair. I'll

463
00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:50,790
Speaker 5: take the chair. I sat down, man. And man, I

464
00:24:50,810 --> 00:24:55,379
Speaker 5: was so appreciative. And it's like God could do some things.

465
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,390
Speaker 5: He could just show you that, you know, you ain't

466
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Speaker 5: the boss. You ain't in charge, but yet still go,

467
00:25:02,350 --> 00:25:03,030
Speaker 5: all right, Joe.

468
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:03,409
Speaker 2: Yeah.

469
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,580
Speaker 5: Man, I looked out the window that whole flight. I

470
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,900
Speaker 5: was so happy. That was a beautiful story, man.

471
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

472
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Speaker 2: I got to get him. I owe him. That was

473
00:25:12,619 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 2: a beautiful story. I owe him.

474
00:25:14,220 --> 00:25:16,659
Speaker 5: Like, I got to get him something. Like, I got

475
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,990
Speaker 5: to call Buster, whatever, scratch the tour lights. I got

476
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Speaker 5: to get him something. Yeah. This was a big deal

477
00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:25,990
Speaker 5: for me. It's literally a prayer every day. Please, God,

478
00:25:26,050 --> 00:25:29,300
Speaker 5: keep me in first class. Yeah. do not want the

479
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 5: they was hitting me with bags of potato chips climbing

480
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Speaker 5: over like I was their cousin or some shit I'm

481
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Speaker 5: not going back there kids in the back beating on

482
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Speaker 5: you Steve you know you wanna.

483
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Speaker 2: You know what I've learned?

484
00:25:43,970 --> 00:25:47,070
Speaker 5: The things that really matter, you can't rush them.

485
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:47,869
Speaker 2: Facts.

486
00:25:48,450 --> 00:25:51,490
Speaker 4: You can't rush the sauce. You can't rush the music.

487
00:25:51,650 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 4: You can't rush relationships. And you definitely can't rush great tequila.

488
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Speaker 5: That's why 1800 Tequila stands out. The name goes all

489
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,660
Speaker 5: the way back to the 1800s when the Beckman family

490
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,060
Speaker 5: started making tequila. And that patience, that attention to the

491
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,460
Speaker 5: craft has been passed down through more than 11 generations.

492
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Speaker 2: That's legacy.

493
00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:17,300
Speaker 4: Sometimes you just got to let something cook. Juan Beckman

494
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:22,070
Speaker 4: Vidal aged 1,800 aneo longer than he even had to

495
00:26:22,190 --> 00:26:23,700
Speaker 4: because he knew it wasn't ready yet.

496
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Speaker 2: I respect that.

497
00:26:24,730 --> 00:26:27,290
Speaker 5: Don't put it out just because you can put it out.

498
00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:30,369
Speaker 2: Put it out when it's right. That applies to a record, a.

499
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 5: Conversation, a move, a making, and clearly a bottle of tequila.

500
00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 4: Once you get it right, you share it with your people.

501
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 4: That's always been part of the story. Good tequila, good conversation,

502
00:26:42,380 --> 00:26:45,060
Speaker 4: and the people around you really appreciate both.

503
00:26:45,340 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: Passion, hard work, honesty.

504
00:26:47,380 --> 00:26:52,629
Speaker 5: Those words are written on every bottle of 1800. And honestly,

505
00:26:52,790 --> 00:26:55,570
Speaker 5: that's the foundation for anything built to last.

506
00:26:55,810 --> 00:26:58,149
Speaker 4: So take your time with what you're creating, and when

507
00:26:58,190 --> 00:26:59,710
Speaker 4: the moment is right, share it.

508
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Speaker 2: With your people. 1800 tequila. Good stuff takes time. And

509
00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:07,030
Speaker 2: the best stuff's meant to be shared with your people.

510
00:27:10,770 --> 00:27:16,300
Speaker 4: How important is philanthropy and giving back? Because I just

511
00:27:16,580 --> 00:27:17,940
Speaker 4: told you, I just told you I had to turn

512
00:27:17,980 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 4: to a Ventajita group. And he said you were actually

513
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Speaker 4: responsible for him starting his foundation.

514
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Speaker 2: I thought that was awesome.

515
00:27:27,869 --> 00:27:28,189
Speaker 3: Yeah.

516
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Speaker 2: You never know who you're affecting in life. You're affecting me, Dave. Yeah.

517
00:27:32,790 --> 00:27:35,910
Speaker 2: You know, you just don't know. You're living your life.

518
00:27:36,450 --> 00:27:40,380
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, when I started my foundation work,

519
00:27:40,740 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 1: giving back once I was playing professional ball in the

520
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,980
Speaker 1: early 70s. There was no one else doing the philanthropy

521
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Speaker 1: and giving money, taking time. I was the first professional

522
00:27:52,109 --> 00:27:56,530
Speaker 1: athlete that we know of in any sport that had

523
00:27:56,590 --> 00:28:02,270
Speaker 1: a nonprofit 501c3 giving back to people. And people used

524
00:28:02,290 --> 00:28:04,709
Speaker 1: to wonder, what are you doing, man? What's the scam?

525
00:28:04,730 --> 00:28:06,889
Speaker 1: What's the deal? I say, no scam, ain't no deal.

526
00:28:07,369 --> 00:28:10,930
Speaker 1: You know, it's from the heart. And so I remember

527
00:28:11,869 --> 00:28:16,310
Speaker 1: going back since we just finished tennis here, Arthur Ashe

528
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:19,659
Speaker 1: talked to me. I helped him with his foundation, get

529
00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:22,619
Speaker 1: it together. Martina, remember Martina Navarro?

530
00:28:22,660 --> 00:28:27,540
Speaker 2: Navarro, yes. She was the one before Serena. I met

531
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Speaker 2: her a bunch of times.

532
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:29,300
Speaker 5: Yeah.

533
00:28:29,540 --> 00:28:33,030
Speaker 1: So people, and then Derek Jeter, when I finally met them,

534
00:28:33,090 --> 00:28:37,470
Speaker 1: this was after I was retired, early, mid-90s. And Derek

535
00:28:37,490 --> 00:28:39,710
Speaker 1: had made it. And I met his father. His father

536
00:28:39,770 --> 00:28:40,790
Speaker 1: told me, he said, Mr.

537
00:28:40,830 --> 00:28:41,290
Speaker 2: Winfield.

538
00:28:41,310 --> 00:28:43,830
Speaker 1: I said, no, no, no, Dave, man. He said, I

539
00:28:43,870 --> 00:28:47,370
Speaker 1: got to tell you a story, man. You met us

540
00:28:47,570 --> 00:28:49,950
Speaker 1: one time in Detroit. You're coming out of the stadium.

541
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Speaker 2: Boom.

542
00:28:50,910 --> 00:28:53,620
Speaker 1: You know, you talked to the kid, patted my son

543
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,300
Speaker 1: on the head and all of that and talked to

544
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: him a little bit. And he said, this kid today

545
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:03,810
Speaker 1: is now the shortstop for the Yankees. And, you know,

546
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:05,390
Speaker 1: I was happy with that. He said, but I'm going

547
00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:07,210
Speaker 1: to tell you, he told me years ago, he said,

548
00:29:07,310 --> 00:29:10,050
Speaker 1: if I ever make it, he said, I want to

549
00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:12,930
Speaker 1: create a foundation like Dave Winfield.

550
00:29:13,170 --> 00:29:14,390
Speaker 2: And so you never know.

551
00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:17,390
Speaker 1: I didn't know Derek Jeter and his dad from Adam.

552
00:29:17,970 --> 00:29:21,180
Speaker 2: But, you know, you impact people's lives. This one is

553
00:29:21,220 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: for the OGs.

554
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 4: Let's keep it 1800.

555
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: How perfect is Derek Jeter?

556
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 5: So what I'm trying to say is LL Cool J

557
00:29:30,380 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 5: was sitting right where you was at two days ago.

558
00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:39,530
Speaker 5: And I declared him the greatest ambassador of hip hop.

559
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,500
Speaker 5: I said, LL Cool J, I said, he is the

560
00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 5: perfect poster child, family man, no BS, no nothing. I said,

561
00:29:51,460 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 5: you are like the best representation of hip-hop.

562
00:29:56,740 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: I told LL.

563
00:29:58,790 --> 00:30:04,140
Speaker 5: And to me, in baseball, Derek Jeter's like, the captain

564
00:30:04,220 --> 00:30:04,580
Speaker 5: is like.

565
00:30:04,620 --> 00:30:04,820
Speaker 3: Yeah.

566
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:07,180
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.

567
00:30:07,260 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: No, he's a man. In fact, you know, I would

568
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: kid with him when he retired. I said, man, you're

569
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Speaker 1: the only brother. You're the only one of the only

570
00:30:15,030 --> 00:30:19,150
Speaker 1: players that even exited the game on a high level.

571
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Speaker 2: I don't know, he hit a home run or drove

572
00:30:22,350 --> 00:30:23,770
Speaker 2: in a game winning RBI.

573
00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:28,190
Speaker 1: Closed out the stadium, closed out his career. You know, mine,

574
00:30:28,210 --> 00:30:30,590
Speaker 1: I got hurt. You know, my arm, I'm in a

575
00:30:30,650 --> 00:30:33,890
Speaker 1: sling and can't be in the playoffs. Very few people

576
00:30:33,930 --> 00:30:37,550
Speaker 1: get that perfect ending, that fairytale ending. But I'm going

577
00:30:37,570 --> 00:30:40,190
Speaker 1: to flip it for a second when you talk about LL.

578
00:30:40,290 --> 00:30:45,210
Speaker 1: We're good friends. This brother, I love him, man. There's

579
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Speaker 1: maybe for hip hop, And, you know, the music that

580
00:30:50,410 --> 00:30:54,470
Speaker 1: you all follow on a daily basis. I'm just going

581
00:30:54,490 --> 00:30:58,860
Speaker 1: to say he's impacted me a great deal. We're good friends.

582
00:30:58,890 --> 00:31:00,700
Speaker 1: He's one of the people that I can go on

583
00:31:00,740 --> 00:31:02,070
Speaker 1: my phone. I could call him.

584
00:31:03,340 --> 00:31:09,260
Speaker 2: Busta is another. Yeah. And Snoop is another, you know.

585
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,290
Speaker 1: But a lot of people I don't know, and it's

586
00:31:13,330 --> 00:31:16,030
Speaker 1: not like I hang with them all the time, but LL,

587
00:31:16,130 --> 00:31:17,770
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell.

588
00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:22,140
Speaker 2: You, he's in my mind. He's in your top five. Yeah,

589
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: he is.

590
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,210
Speaker 1: But he's going to be in my documentary, too. I

591
00:31:25,250 --> 00:31:27,510
Speaker 1: got a documentary coming out either at the end of

592
00:31:27,550 --> 00:31:28,850
Speaker 1: this year or first of next year.

593
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Speaker 5: You know I'm the hottest in the game, Dave. You

594
00:31:32,190 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 5: need me on there to talk about how you changed

595
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 5: my life. We got to tell him to save that

596
00:31:36,940 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 5: last 2%. I don't know if y'all understand that.

597
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

598
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 5: I don't know if y'all know what's going on out here. But, yo, Dave,

599
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,420
Speaker 5: you need me.

600
00:31:45,020 --> 00:31:51,340
Speaker 2: From five blocks away to tell a story. Um.

601
00:31:53,980 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: We heard it. It's on tape.

602
00:31:55,460 --> 00:31:58,500
Speaker 5: I personally can't believe I'm talking to Dave Winfield. That's

603
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 5: how much you impacted my life. I don't think you understand, like,

604
00:32:02,790 --> 00:32:05,730
Speaker 5: you know, what you mean to us and what you

605
00:32:05,770 --> 00:32:07,050
Speaker 5: meant to us growing up.

606
00:32:08,590 --> 00:32:11,610
Speaker 2: We had a million guests. I never called my dad.

607
00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:16,030
Speaker 2: I never FaceTimed my dad. Dave Winfield. Who are these

608
00:32:16,090 --> 00:32:19,300
Speaker 2: other guys? You know, but I know. But I'm going

609
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:19,980
Speaker 2: to tell you.

610
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:20,270
Speaker 3: Um.

611
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,370
Speaker 1: And it kind of segues to the book. I had

612
00:32:24,430 --> 00:32:28,710
Speaker 1: played baseball. I mean, I was 12 years old. I

613
00:32:28,730 --> 00:32:30,190
Speaker 1: wanted to be a professional baseball player.

614
00:32:30,610 --> 00:32:33,300
Speaker 2: Made it. Played for San Diego for a lot of years.

615
00:32:33,340 --> 00:32:34,100
Speaker 2: They didn't win.

616
00:32:34,450 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: And I said, before my career is over, because you

617
00:32:36,620 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: never know how long it's going to be, I said

618
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: I had to go to a team that had a chance.

619
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: The Yankees had a chance. They weren't necessarily the nicest

620
00:32:44,260 --> 00:32:46,850
Speaker 1: in negotiations, but I said they were going to pay

621
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,070
Speaker 1: the most money and they had a chance to win.

622
00:32:49,540 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: And I was cool with New York. I said, let's go.

623
00:32:51,860 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: And I never expected the things that happened to me

624
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,150
Speaker 1: when I came to New York. I mean, I know

625
00:32:58,190 --> 00:33:01,090
Speaker 1: we'll get a chance to talk about it. Talk about

626
00:33:01,130 --> 00:33:02,630
Speaker 1: some of the things that happened to you when you

627
00:33:02,670 --> 00:33:05,500
Speaker 1: came to New York. You know, you used to read

628
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,739
Speaker 1: in the newspaper, why is Steinbrenner messing with Winfield all

629
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: the time?

630
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,780
Speaker 2: He's the leader. He's the best player. It didn't make sense, right?

631
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: And nobody knows.

632
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: But what I did, like I said, I pulled back

633
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: the curtain and I'm telling people what was going on

634
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: with up here, in here, with my family, how it

635
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,700
Speaker 1: affected my approach to life.

636
00:33:27,340 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: I'll say this, man.

637
00:33:28,860 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: They were part of making it some of the toughest

638
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: years of my entire life.

639
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:34,180
Speaker 2: Wow.

640
00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: And not because I can go out and play high,

641
00:33:37,220 --> 00:33:39,430
Speaker 1: you know, so you win some, you lose some, and

642
00:33:39,450 --> 00:33:42,830
Speaker 1: we better win more than we lose. But the things

643
00:33:42,850 --> 00:33:46,590
Speaker 1: that were done to me, I'll just give you an example.

644
00:33:46,670 --> 00:33:48,170
Speaker 2: And people, when they get the book, I got to

645
00:33:48,190 --> 00:33:48,730
Speaker 2: get this book.

646
00:33:48,770 --> 00:33:51,350
Speaker 1: I want to read when, when they read this, think

647
00:33:51,390 --> 00:33:55,310
Speaker 1: about this. I got the biggest contract of all sports people,

648
00:33:55,530 --> 00:33:58,300
Speaker 1: all the sports. And I come here, and ready to

649
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: give my all, lay it on the line. And within

650
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,700
Speaker 1: a month, the man said, I'm not gonna give you

651
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:09,060
Speaker 1: all your money. And if you don't like it, sue me.

652
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,700
Speaker 1: Those words will always be, and he didn't say it

653
00:34:11,739 --> 00:34:14,330
Speaker 1: just once. He said it a few times. Now you

654
00:34:14,370 --> 00:34:19,110
Speaker 1: from Bronx, you from? Yeah, somebody tell you that you

655
00:34:19,130 --> 00:34:21,390
Speaker 1: ain't gonna give you your money, what you gonna do?

656
00:34:21,410 --> 00:34:25,469
Speaker 2: That's what I did. That's what I did.

657
00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:27,660
Speaker 5: I just had to talk somebody off the cliff on

658
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 5: the drive down.

659
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,420
Speaker 1: I was like, you don't need that. You got to chill.

660
00:34:31,540 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: And I lived through that. And it wasn't just that

661
00:34:34,460 --> 00:34:37,620
Speaker 1: because I had, you know, you're playing. Let me ask

662
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,629
Speaker 1: you another question. Let me just ask you, what was

663
00:34:39,690 --> 00:34:43,810
Speaker 1: the genius of George Steinberg? Because we always hear how

664
00:34:43,969 --> 00:34:46,810
Speaker 1: horrible he was and all that, but what was so genius?

665
00:34:47,390 --> 00:34:54,430
Speaker 2: Genius. He winning all the championships, right? Damn, that's a

666
00:34:54,430 --> 00:34:58,469
Speaker 2: hard question. All right, next to you. No, no. Back

667
00:34:58,530 --> 00:35:01,989
Speaker 2: to you, Johnny. No, no. No, I don't mind. I

668
00:35:02,030 --> 00:35:04,770
Speaker 2: don't mind answering this. Yowzers.

669
00:35:05,690 --> 00:35:08,709
Speaker 1: You can give someone credit for having accomplished a lot

670
00:35:08,810 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: with the organization. Yankees organization. Dodgers are close, you know,

671
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,020
Speaker 1: in terms of the best of all time. But if

672
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,020
Speaker 1: you had to work for him, your uncle, your dad,

673
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:25,100
Speaker 1: your mom, you say, man, this guy, you know, you

674
00:35:25,140 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: don't treat people this way. And, um, so there, there

675
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 1: was some pretty, pretty rough times, man. Um, like I said,

676
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,950
Speaker 1: I want people to read that, but there were times

677
00:35:38,290 --> 00:35:41,830
Speaker 1: I was also a player representative for the union to

678
00:35:41,870 --> 00:35:43,649
Speaker 1: make sure you.

679
00:35:43,570 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: Was going through it and you was representing the place.

680
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,939
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Helping everybody else.

681
00:35:48,580 --> 00:35:51,570
Speaker 1: And, um, there were some things that, uh, he brought

682
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:57,150
Speaker 1: to some of the meetings and you know, that weren't, weren't, uh, appropriate.

683
00:35:57,310 --> 00:35:58,069
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

684
00:35:58,670 --> 00:36:02,029
Speaker 1: And I said, basically you can't do that. You, and

685
00:36:02,070 --> 00:36:04,259
Speaker 1: they don't have to come and talk to you. I'll

686
00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:06,420
Speaker 1: come and talk to you and we can straighten it out.

687
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,509
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you that, without the details of it,

688
00:36:10,530 --> 00:36:14,150
Speaker 1: but it had to deal with, they wanted to implement drug.

689
00:36:13,870 --> 00:36:17,550
Speaker 2: Testing, and it wasn't going to bother me. Drug testing

690
00:36:17,590 --> 00:36:20,730
Speaker 2: meaning steroids? Everything. Drugs? Everything.

691
00:36:20,750 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 3: Drug testing meaning testing you for drugs? Yeah, but you

692
00:36:24,340 --> 00:36:27,899
Speaker 3: have to, you know, look. Smoke a spliff, yeah. Like

693
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 3: a little smoke, you'll slip. But the thing was, you

694
00:36:31,940 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 3: just have to collectively bargain that. You can't just come

695
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,509
Speaker 3: up on somebody and say, look, I suspect you, And

696
00:36:38,850 --> 00:36:43,130
Speaker 3: if I don't like you, I can rain some problems

697
00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:43,529
Speaker 3: on you.

698
00:36:43,830 --> 00:36:46,770
Speaker 1: You can't do it that way. So when he didn't

699
00:36:46,810 --> 00:36:49,930
Speaker 1: get his way and they pulled me in to the

700
00:36:50,030 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: office the next day, I'm coming there ready to hit

701
00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:56,779
Speaker 1: Randy Johnson or, you know, Roger Clemens or something. And

702
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: then they take me upstairs and we're talking about it.

703
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: And he was so mad because he didn't get his way,

704
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,589
Speaker 1: which was wrong. He tried to trade me a couple

705
00:37:06,610 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: of times. I said, nah, I think I'll stay. He said,

706
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,779
Speaker 1: I'm going to make it rough on you, man. I said,

707
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: what are you going to do, bench me? He said,

708
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,700
Speaker 1: I can do more. I can release you. And after

709
00:37:14,739 --> 00:37:18,779
Speaker 1: I laughed at it because, okay, release me. I'm an all-star.

710
00:37:19,060 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: I can play anywhere. Just give me my money and

711
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: I can start all over again. I'd have been happy

712
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: with that. But from then on, I suspected that somebody

713
00:37:30,010 --> 00:37:33,210
Speaker 1: close to that circle might try to entrap me with

714
00:37:33,250 --> 00:37:36,950
Speaker 1: something to deal with drugs or something like that.

715
00:37:37,230 --> 00:37:39,170
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you. Damn, it was that serious.

716
00:37:39,370 --> 00:37:39,529
Speaker 3: Oh.

717
00:37:39,730 --> 00:37:41,609
Speaker 2: I need a signed book. I need a signed book.

718
00:37:41,730 --> 00:37:44,260
Speaker 2: You know, my father was a Met fan. Yeah.

719
00:37:44,489 --> 00:37:47,300
Speaker 5: And I was a Yankee fan. And we would argue

720
00:37:47,340 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 5: all the time. And my father would say some things.

721
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,700
Speaker 5: I love the Yankees. I'm not going to diss him,

722
00:37:52,739 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 5: but he was not a Yankee fan.

723
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

724
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,500
Speaker 5: He was totally against the Yankees. And I couldn't believe

725
00:38:00,540 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 5: we lived five blocks away and he was a Mets fan.

726
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,020
Speaker 4: But all that being said, your dad might have been right.

727
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 4: After we read the book, he might have had some,

728
00:38:08,890 --> 00:38:11,989
Speaker 4: your pops might have had some pointers about why he

729
00:38:12,010 --> 00:38:12,989
Speaker 4: didn't like you. Yeah.

730
00:38:13,090 --> 00:38:15,430
Speaker 2: No, no, he was definitely on that type of time.

731
00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:19,529
Speaker 2: We listened to the big Dave, I think.

732
00:38:19,650 --> 00:38:23,630
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not mad at anybody for liking or

733
00:38:23,710 --> 00:38:26,810
Speaker 1: disliking the Yankees. I came here because I wanted to

734
00:38:26,890 --> 00:38:29,460
Speaker 1: be here. I wanted to be in New York. I

735
00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: wanted to play for the Yankees. And I never imagined

736
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,060
Speaker 1: that they would turn my life on its head. I said,

737
00:38:37,620 --> 00:38:40,100
Speaker 1: I got to go to work. And they're not for me.

738
00:38:40,530 --> 00:38:43,810
Speaker 1: They're working against me. You played what years to what

739
00:38:43,850 --> 00:38:44,569
Speaker 1: years with the Yankees?

740
00:38:44,590 --> 00:38:46,210
Speaker 2: I came here 81 to 90. And I left during

741
00:38:46,230 --> 00:38:46,969
Speaker 2: the 10th year.

742
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: Of my contract. See, guys signed for 10 years and

743
00:38:54,660 --> 00:38:57,060
Speaker 1: they're good for one or two. I was good for

744
00:38:57,140 --> 00:38:57,580
Speaker 1: every year.

745
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,060
Speaker 2: You was ready. Talk slow to me. That's just the

746
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:04,500
Speaker 2: way it was. You know, I got a famous story, Dave. Another? Yeah.

747
00:39:04,540 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: Let's go.

748
00:39:05,580 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 5: So I'm working at my uncle's store on 132nd and

749
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 5: Park Avenue.

750
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,700
Speaker 2: That's in Harlem.

751
00:39:11,260 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 5: It's nothing but pimps, prostitutes, Big crack era. It's like

752
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:23,509
Speaker 5: 132nd and Park Avenue. Welfare centers there. The sanitation is

753
00:39:23,550 --> 00:39:28,969
Speaker 5: just a whole shit. A car stops. And it's just

754
00:39:28,989 --> 00:39:34,819
Speaker 5: tinted windowed up. Somebody goes like this, right? So I

755
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,180
Speaker 5: come across the street. I'm maybe 13, 14, right? And

756
00:39:39,260 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 5: it's Phil Rizzuto. His car got stuck in the middle

757
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:50,969
Speaker 5: of Park Avenue 131st. He said, kid, could you call

758
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:53,629
Speaker 5: this number? This is a true story. Could you call

759
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:54,410
Speaker 5: this number for me?

760
00:39:54,450 --> 00:39:56,190
Speaker 2: I said, all right. It wasn't no cell phones at

761
00:39:56,250 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: that time, right? So I go inside, call the number.

762
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:04,060
Speaker 5: I said, listen, Mr. Phil Rizzuto was stuck on the 131st.

763
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,570
Speaker 5: My man, you want to talk about the men in black?

764
00:40:09,090 --> 00:40:09,550
Speaker 2: What?

765
00:40:09,610 --> 00:40:11,910
Speaker 5: They came in, I couldn't, and nobody would, not even

766
00:40:11,930 --> 00:40:14,779
Speaker 5: the guys I work with believe this story. They got

767
00:40:14,860 --> 00:40:18,020
Speaker 5: that man out of there in about three minutes. Tow

768
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:23,540
Speaker 5: truck and everything. Threw him in the car. Put the talk, gone.

769
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:24,780
Speaker 5: I couldn't even say, yo.

770
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,740
Speaker 2: Look what happened.

771
00:40:25,820 --> 00:40:31,050
Speaker 5: Phil was, it was over. Before cell phones, they came

772
00:40:31,130 --> 00:40:33,569
Speaker 5: over there. Cause you know, the one, three, two, you

773
00:40:33,610 --> 00:40:36,529
Speaker 5: cross over that bridge, you in Yankee Stadium. So he

774
00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:39,770
Speaker 5: used to cut through the hood to get the Yankee Stadium.

775
00:40:39,790 --> 00:40:43,810
Speaker 5: His shit lights out. Man, they came about three minutes.

776
00:40:43,850 --> 00:40:46,129
Speaker 5: I was telling everybody, nobody believed me. I was like, yo,

777
00:40:46,250 --> 00:40:50,859
Speaker 5: Phil is pseudo. was right there 10 minutes ago. It

778
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:53,219
Speaker 5: came and got, it was over. Isn't that something?

779
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,020
Speaker 1: And he probably never, he used to tell stories, you know,

780
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: when you listen to the broadcast, he'd be telling those stories.

781
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: With Bill White.

782
00:41:00,660 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 5: Hey, White, you know, you know, it's surprising he never

783
00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:06,569
Speaker 5: talked about that one. He never did. I called the,

784
00:41:06,670 --> 00:41:09,069
Speaker 5: I called the number. They came in three minutes. It

785
00:41:09,090 --> 00:41:11,130
Speaker 5: was almost like I couldn't even tell my brother. My

786
00:41:11,170 --> 00:41:12,310
Speaker 5: brother wouldn't even believe me.

787
00:41:12,310 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, gone. I didn't even know they

788
00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:18,219
Speaker 2: could do that in them years. He said, what you on, Joe?

789
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 2: It wasn't no Phil Rizzuto, right?

790
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,739
Speaker 5: I was scared to tell a story because I wouldn't

791
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 5: believe nobody believed me. And he was in a rough

792
00:41:26,219 --> 00:41:34,550
Speaker 5: block at that time in them years. That shit was like, man.

793
00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:36,620
Speaker 5: When he got out of there in like three minutes,

794
00:41:37,090 --> 00:41:41,989
Speaker 5: who was the picture that you faced that you would

795
00:41:42,030 --> 00:41:45,410
Speaker 5: be like, man, I got to be on my A game.

796
00:41:45,450 --> 00:41:48,210
Speaker 2: Who was the most dominating pitcher? Who was throwing that

797
00:41:48,250 --> 00:41:52,210
Speaker 2: heat back then? No, no. They were throwing that heat. Yeah.

798
00:41:52,370 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: Well, you're from New York, so you know Tom Sievert.

799
00:41:57,219 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: He was with the Mets. The Mets weren't necessarily very good,

800
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: but they would beat up on the Padres. And I

801
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: think at one point, his record against the Padres was

802
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,089
Speaker 1: like 19-1 or something like that. I mean, he used

803
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,830
Speaker 1: to just destroy the team. Bob Gibson... I guess a

804
00:42:15,370 --> 00:42:19,790
Speaker 1: quick story about that. It kind of taught me, even

805
00:42:19,810 --> 00:42:22,529
Speaker 1: though I was a little nervous meeting him, what I

806
00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:25,390
Speaker 1: thought was my hero. I met him in a store

807
00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:28,100
Speaker 1: in St. Louis and I'm a rookie and I walk

808
00:42:28,180 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: up to him. He's reading magazine waiting for his wife.

809
00:42:32,180 --> 00:42:34,739
Speaker 1: And I come over and I say, Bob Gibson. He

810
00:42:34,780 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: looks on.

811
00:42:35,780 --> 00:42:38,940
Speaker 2: I said, Dave Winfield, San Diego Padre. How you doing?

812
00:42:39,469 --> 00:42:41,300
Speaker 2: He looked at me, he scowled at me and went

813
00:42:41,340 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: back to reading.

814
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: It's like, you're talking about discs or whatever you want

815
00:42:46,219 --> 00:42:49,910
Speaker 1: to call it. But I didn't know back then. There

816
00:42:49,950 --> 00:42:51,890
Speaker 1: were no friends. You're just the enemy.

817
00:42:51,930 --> 00:42:52,230
Speaker 5: Yeah.

818
00:42:52,250 --> 00:42:52,390
Speaker 2: Yeah.

819
00:42:55,110 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: And I said, man, I'm going to get this dude.

820
00:42:57,540 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: And so I didn't play that series. We go to

821
00:43:00,780 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: San Diego real quick. The manager told me, you're playing

822
00:43:04,020 --> 00:43:07,380
Speaker 1: tomorrow against Bob Gibson. I didn't sleep that. I'm waiting

823
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: to get Bob Gibson. So he was old, but he

824
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: still had some good stuff. So first time up, he

825
00:43:13,219 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: got two strikes on me and he had one of

826
00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:17,010
Speaker 1: these sliders that come up there and then You know,

827
00:43:17,050 --> 00:43:19,819
Speaker 1: take a left turn and down, you know. I'd never

828
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,700
Speaker 1: seen this kind of stuff. So he strikes me out

829
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,020
Speaker 1: the first time. And I'm cool until I get through

830
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:24,419
Speaker 1: that dugout.

831
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,739
Speaker 2: You think he remembers he dissed you in the school? No,

832
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,070
Speaker 2: he didn't know me from here.

833
00:43:28,219 --> 00:43:31,330
Speaker 1: And so I go through the dugout and, you know,

834
00:43:31,410 --> 00:43:32,130
Speaker 1: didn't say anything.

835
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:36,630
Speaker 2: I got in that back room. Mother! You know, I'm mad.

836
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:38,850
Speaker 2: So that's real. Players really go in the back room

837
00:43:38,910 --> 00:43:41,379
Speaker 2: and break the back? Oh, yeah, yeah. I was hot.

838
00:43:41,739 --> 00:43:43,899
Speaker 2: Next time I came up, though, we're down by two.

839
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:44,910
Speaker 2: Two men on.

840
00:43:45,370 --> 00:43:48,029
Speaker 1: He got that same two strikes, threw me the slider,

841
00:43:48,570 --> 00:43:50,500
Speaker 1: and I went down and got it. You ever play golf?

842
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: You ever hit the... Well, you play baseball.

843
00:43:53,340 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 4: Yes!

844
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,779
Speaker 2: I hit a two iron out of the stadium. And

845
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: I was going around the base slow. Looking at him.

846
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:00,930
Speaker 2: Looking at him.

847
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,700
Speaker 1: And then I walked across home plate and pointed to him.

848
00:44:04,860 --> 00:44:07,910
Speaker 1: I said, I'm here too. And I get to the

849
00:44:07,950 --> 00:44:09,490
Speaker 1: dugout and the guy said, are you crazy?

850
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:14,630
Speaker 2: Bob Gibson. I said, Bob Gibson. Ha ha! I'm here too.

851
00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:18,790
Speaker 2: That was your guy. And I got up the next time,

852
00:44:18,850 --> 00:44:21,700
Speaker 2: first tour, right at my head. But I was too quick.

853
00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: I was always too agile, you know? He tried to

854
00:44:24,620 --> 00:44:27,180
Speaker 2: hit me, boy. But he was known for that. You

855
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: know what's crazy, Dave? I got a story like that. Okay.

856
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: In your industry? And I'm not going to challenge you.

857
00:44:34,340 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: Who got the better story?

858
00:44:36,660 --> 00:44:38,730
Speaker 5: Told you this story before, and I seen my man

859
00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:42,580
Speaker 5: Sammy the other night at Jay-Z's party. Sammy used to

860
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,460
Speaker 5: hit a home run. He was like a Dave Winfield

861
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 5: for us. We played softball.

862
00:44:46,020 --> 00:44:47,340
Speaker 2: Okay. Legendary.

863
00:44:47,410 --> 00:44:50,489
Speaker 5: I'm a legendary softball player in the South Bronx. I'm

864
00:44:50,510 --> 00:44:51,410
Speaker 5: not lying to you.

865
00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:53,629
Speaker 2: I'm a pitcher. Got the horizon.

866
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:55,549
Speaker 5: So you know how you said, I got the joint

867
00:44:55,570 --> 00:44:57,230
Speaker 5: that you think you're going to hit in the last

868
00:44:57,310 --> 00:45:00,150
Speaker 5: minute and go like this, right? So they take me

869
00:45:00,290 --> 00:45:03,089
Speaker 5: one day, and I'm Fat Joe the rapper already, right?

870
00:45:03,250 --> 00:45:04,850
Speaker 5: So they take me one day, take me to the

871
00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:08,530
Speaker 5: other side of town. And they take me to Mates Avenue.

872
00:45:08,590 --> 00:45:11,630
Speaker 5: That's by East Tremont. And they're like, all right, you

873
00:45:11,850 --> 00:45:14,110
Speaker 5: got Fat Joe, but the whole park, that whole neighborhood,

874
00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:18,509
Speaker 5: that's not even my neighborhood. And Fat Joe, he's a

875
00:45:18,630 --> 00:45:22,589
Speaker 5: shit talker. So he's pitching and talking shit to you

876
00:45:22,610 --> 00:45:23,810
Speaker 5: when he throw a strike. Yeah.

877
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: You're going to strike out in front of your wife.

878
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: You punk. You did. I'm doing all that. Right? Yeah.

879
00:45:30,460 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 5: This guy bats up. He's the home run hitter of

880
00:45:34,660 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 5: the area. His name was Boomer. I told you this

881
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,020
Speaker 5: story on the podcast before. He gets up. I put

882
00:45:41,060 --> 00:45:43,860
Speaker 5: two strikes on him. Then I throw that riser and

883
00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:47,580
Speaker 5: I strike him out. Now, getting struck out of softball

884
00:45:47,780 --> 00:45:51,739
Speaker 5: is embarrassing. I don't care who it is. You better

885
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 5: go up there and tap it, bunt it, something like you.

886
00:45:54,340 --> 00:45:58,529
Speaker 2: It's embarrassing, right? I strike him out. I walk him

887
00:45:58,590 --> 00:46:00,910
Speaker 2: into the dugout. You ain't nothing.

888
00:46:00,930 --> 00:46:03,950
Speaker 5: They told me you was the man. You ain't this, this, this.

889
00:46:04,270 --> 00:46:08,810
Speaker 5: Next time I faced him, this guy hit that ball.

890
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,980
Speaker 5: It's a whole hard day. It was a building in

891
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 5: the middle because in the middle of the hood, to

892
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,470
Speaker 5: this day, the softball is stuck up on the wall.

893
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:21,130
Speaker 2: It hit the.

894
00:46:21,310 --> 00:46:27,820
Speaker 5: Perfect hole in the wall of the building. To this day,

895
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 5: that's Fat Joe. So Boomer put that shit up. I

896
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,140
Speaker 5: see my man Sammy the other day. Sammy said, yo,

897
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,540
Speaker 5: you said the story on the podcast.

898
00:46:35,580 --> 00:46:37,020
Speaker 2: You know how many people hit me up?

899
00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:40,620
Speaker 5: He said, Boomer hit me up. Yo, the ball's still

900
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:45,460
Speaker 5: up there, Joe. He put that shit up.

901
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,660
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Yo, you got Bob Gibson. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

902
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: You got Bob Gibson. You got Boomer.

903
00:46:52,020 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: No, Boomer got me. But, you know, we got a

904
00:46:56,219 --> 00:46:59,260
Speaker 1: lot of those stories on our way up in the game.

905
00:46:59,300 --> 00:47:02,710
Speaker 1: You know, someone you had to challenge or they challenged you.

906
00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:19,610
Speaker 2: On a big, bomb, JoeAndJayTheShow.com.

907
00:47:19,650 --> 00:47:22,940
Speaker 4: You can get the little Cole Ford t-shirt with a

908
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 4: hoodie tag.

909
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 5: It's my favorite right there. I need an extra large. JoeAndJayTheShow.com.

910
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 5: Go there and get.

911
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: It.

912
00:47:37,580 --> 00:47:43,430
Speaker 1: Let me ask you guys this question. What incident or incidents...

913
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: in your career on the way up? Let you, you know,

914
00:47:48,700 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: if you weren't strong-minded, strong-willed, could you have just given

915
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: up and not become who you are today? Was there

916
00:47:57,780 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: anything that you were confronted with? You had to jump

917
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: over that?

918
00:48:00,940 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 4: I had several of them because before actually getting the deal,

919
00:48:05,580 --> 00:48:10,260
Speaker 4: we had a lot of almost about to happen there.

920
00:48:10,290 --> 00:48:11,910
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

921
00:48:11,950 --> 00:48:14,700
Speaker 4: It's It only take a couple of them to make

922
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,580
Speaker 4: you say, I'm going to do something else.

923
00:48:18,620 --> 00:48:18,900
Speaker 2: Yeah.

924
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,379
Speaker 4: So from having a little thing with Dave Hall, rest

925
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 4: in peace, almost signing with Chubb Rock.

926
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: Chubb Rock was on. KRS.

927
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,969
Speaker 4: He said, yo, I'm going to do this one song

928
00:48:32,989 --> 00:48:35,830
Speaker 4: with you guys. There's no telling. They might not like you.

929
00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:40,890
Speaker 4: So he had a lot of like, you're about to

930
00:48:40,910 --> 00:48:43,419
Speaker 4: get signed to Yeah, yeah.

931
00:48:44,420 --> 00:48:46,980
Speaker 2: Go back to the drawing board, go back to it.

932
00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: So then it became like, we get signed, we get signed,

933
00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:54,180
Speaker 2: and we don't, you know, and then we got signed.

934
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,290
Speaker 2: But if you're weak of heart or just giving up,

935
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,110
Speaker 2: you wouldn't become who you are. That's a fact. Nobody's

936
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,069
Speaker 2: in this position who gives up.

937
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:08,830
Speaker 5: And so no matter what profession, no matter what, oh.

938
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 5: biggest thing you could do is believe in yourself.

939
00:49:11,580 --> 00:49:12,460
Speaker 2: And never give up.

940
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 5: And with me, what happened with me was i was

941
00:49:17,620 --> 00:49:20,660
Speaker 5: very similar to dave winfield my first song went number

942
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,270
Speaker 5: one in america okay then i found out it was

943
00:49:23,310 --> 00:49:25,790
Speaker 5: no money in hip-hop it was five hundred dollars a

944
00:49:25,870 --> 00:49:34,310
Speaker 5: show i was doing three shows at night Virginia, North Carolina, Philly, upstate, Yonkers,

945
00:49:34,730 --> 00:49:35,330
Speaker 5: the Bronx.

946
00:49:35,390 --> 00:49:38,069
Speaker 2: Like, I was trying to get... Now, you.

947
00:49:37,969 --> 00:49:41,460
Speaker 5: Put out one of them number ones, you're making $ 250, 000,

948
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:45,460
Speaker 5: $ 300, 000 a show. So I could have gave up a

949
00:49:45,540 --> 00:49:48,460
Speaker 5: lot of times, you know, and just said, yo, there's

950
00:49:48,500 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 5: no money in this. It wasn't for, like, a good...

951
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,170
Speaker 5: I think it was about five years in where.

952
00:49:59,270 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 5: You know, I became successful enough to where I was

953
00:50:01,739 --> 00:50:02,590
Speaker 5: getting real money.

954
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? So, I think it was that.

955
00:50:05,380 --> 00:50:08,739
Speaker 5: But for us, it's, you know, believe it or not,

956
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,779
Speaker 5: the baseball game is very different from the rap game.

957
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: The rap game is like.

958
00:50:13,300 --> 00:50:16,140
Speaker 4: The baseball game is very different from any game.

959
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. It's hard. It's very hard. Very hard.

960
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,460
Speaker 2: Rap game and baseball is like... That ain't even a thing.

961
00:50:23,580 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: To hit that baseball... You dealt with Joe Steinbrenner. We

962
00:50:26,540 --> 00:50:30,450
Speaker 2: dealt with... Meet my... meet the guy I'm signed to.

963
00:50:30,489 --> 00:50:33,310
Speaker 5: He just came home for 30 years, killed 40 people.

964
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 2: Johnny Big Lip. You know, it just.

965
00:50:38,370 --> 00:50:41,270
Speaker 5: And how are you going to navigate? There's no PhD

966
00:50:41,310 --> 00:50:41,770
Speaker 5: in rap.

967
00:50:41,950 --> 00:50:42,350
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.

968
00:50:42,410 --> 00:50:44,380
Speaker 5: They was lunatic central.

969
00:50:44,410 --> 00:50:46,609
Speaker 2: And if they told you something, you say, and you're

970
00:50:46,660 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: just like, yo, meet my man.

971
00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 5: It's two quarters because he did two quarters. He's just like,

972
00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 5: you know, it was crazy.

973
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

974
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,900
Speaker 2: Yeah. This thing was like Big Red, man. What's the

975
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: movie with Big Red? Remember? Five Heartbeats. Five Heartbeats. Everybody

976
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: was Big Red in the game. Yeah, you do. In baseball,

977
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 2: it was different.

978
00:51:09,620 --> 00:51:13,020
Speaker 1: After my first season, I went from college, College World

979
00:51:13,060 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: Series as a pitcher and a hero's most valuable player.

980
00:51:16,540 --> 00:51:18,859
Speaker 1: So you number one pick and you start playing right

981
00:51:18,910 --> 00:51:22,029
Speaker 1: away and you see all your heroes. But they send

982
00:51:22,050 --> 00:51:26,049
Speaker 1: you down to Winter Ball. Now they have Arizona League.

983
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:28,489
Speaker 1: You know, it's very nice and everything. They sent me

984
00:51:28,530 --> 00:51:32,450
Speaker 1: down to a place called Ciudad Obregon down in Mexico.

985
00:51:33,110 --> 00:51:33,230
Speaker 2: And.

986
00:51:34,430 --> 00:51:38,330
Speaker 1: I lasted 30 days, man, because I didn't speak the language.

987
00:51:38,430 --> 00:51:43,489
Speaker 1: I couldn't order the food. The facilities were terrible. Now,

988
00:51:43,510 --> 00:51:47,620
Speaker 1: this is 50 years ago. I mean, it's a little

989
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: farm town in Mexico. We had tarantula run through the dugout.

990
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,420
Speaker 1: You get up in the batter's box. It's like a sandbox.

991
00:51:56,150 --> 00:51:59,550
Speaker 1: I lasted 30 days. And then they told me, we're

992
00:51:59,750 --> 00:52:02,950
Speaker 1: going to send you home. So I got released. Never

993
00:52:02,989 --> 00:52:07,630
Speaker 1: happened in life. I'm 20, 21 years old. But sometimes

994
00:52:07,650 --> 00:52:10,370
Speaker 1: you don't run up against those obstacles. And I thought

995
00:52:10,410 --> 00:52:13,790
Speaker 1: about it. Am I cut out for this game? Because

996
00:52:13,810 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: you've got to hit everybody. You have to play through everything.

997
00:52:18,620 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: And that was one incident. But I went home and

998
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,219
Speaker 1: was working hard. Another one. I got injured in the

999
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: first year scoring a run due to try to tag

1000
00:52:28,890 --> 00:52:31,830
Speaker 1: me out of home plate, hurt my knee. They call

1001
00:52:31,850 --> 00:52:34,569
Speaker 1: it drop foot, you know? So I had this, you know,

1002
00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:36,890
Speaker 1: where like when you wake up and your arm isn't

1003
00:52:36,930 --> 00:52:40,130
Speaker 1: working or you're like that, man, I had to tape

1004
00:52:40,210 --> 00:52:42,930
Speaker 1: myself up for about a year and a half, man.

1005
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: And I could have just given up, said, man, this

1006
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: isn't going to work, you know?

1007
00:52:47,180 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: So you never, there's a lot of obstacles and, um,

1008
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, you just have to keep on going.

1009
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: I did what I love.

1010
00:52:56,100 --> 00:53:00,340
Speaker 1: And, um, even in New York, even though they couldn't,

1011
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,500
Speaker 1: once I had my 10 year contract, there was nothing

1012
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,089
Speaker 1: they could do, but on a daily basis, it was,

1013
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,490
Speaker 1: it was rough, man, unnecessarily.

1014
00:53:09,350 --> 00:53:11,750
Speaker 2: And, um, some people could have quit or just give

1015
00:53:11,770 --> 00:53:12,089
Speaker 2: it in.

1016
00:53:12,430 --> 00:53:16,610
Speaker 1: But for me, you challenged me and I'm going, I'm

1017
00:53:16,630 --> 00:53:20,930
Speaker 1: going to battle you. That's just part of me. And, um,

1018
00:53:21,620 --> 00:53:23,700
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you this. And I write in the

1019
00:53:23,739 --> 00:53:27,029
Speaker 1: book too. I made it through. You're going to hear

1020
00:53:27,050 --> 00:53:29,290
Speaker 1: a lot of different stories that you just, you'll say,

1021
00:53:29,510 --> 00:53:32,290
Speaker 1: I can't believe it, man. How did his brother perform?

1022
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:35,859
Speaker 1: How did he sustain? How did he do well? But

1023
00:53:35,969 --> 00:53:40,140
Speaker 1: I had to go to another city. when I left here.

1024
00:53:40,580 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: And I played for, when they said I couldn't play,

1025
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: I was done, you're finished, you're no good. They weren't

1026
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 1: playing me. I'm sitting on the bench watching our team

1027
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,220
Speaker 1: getting waxed out there.

1028
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: And they're not bringing you in. Yeah, they're not.

1029
00:53:52,980 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: But it was to force me to leave so they

1030
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,739
Speaker 1: could get some compensation for me if I left. But

1031
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,290
Speaker 1: I ended up going to four different teams. I played

1032
00:54:01,330 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: for six more years. Soon as I left here, I

1033
00:54:05,020 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: was went to the angels. I was comeback player of

1034
00:54:07,219 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: the year, you know, so I wasn't finished. I go

1035
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 1: up to Toronto. We win a championship. I drove, drove

1036
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,090
Speaker 1: in more runs than anybody 40 years old ever did.

1037
00:54:17,110 --> 00:54:20,870
Speaker 1: A hundred and something hit two 90, you know, uh,

1038
00:54:20,969 --> 00:54:23,509
Speaker 1: they would run for prime minister up here.

1039
00:54:23,530 --> 00:54:25,910
Speaker 2: You know, I'm good. I'm good.

1040
00:54:26,370 --> 00:54:29,150
Speaker 1: And, uh, I went to, then I went to Minnesota

1041
00:54:29,450 --> 00:54:31,589
Speaker 1: and then I, you know, home, I get 3000 hits.

1042
00:54:33,230 --> 00:54:35,670
Speaker 1: And then I finish up a career, which was Hall

1043
00:54:35,710 --> 00:54:37,830
Speaker 1: of Fame career. But if I would have stayed here,

1044
00:54:39,110 --> 00:54:41,870
Speaker 1: all the stuff they're doing to beat me down, I

1045
00:54:41,890 --> 00:54:43,290
Speaker 1: wouldn't be who I am today.

1046
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:47,540
Speaker 5: They do this to us probably even worse than hip hop.

1047
00:54:47,980 --> 00:54:53,020
Speaker 5: And so what happens is, unfortunately, I never knew, I

1048
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:58,460
Speaker 5: never understood why someone's success would make others mad.

1049
00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1050
00:54:59,370 --> 00:55:02,250
Speaker 5: And so they're just mad at you because you're successful.

1051
00:55:02,290 --> 00:55:04,810
Speaker 5: Because you're good. And they come at you in so

1052
00:55:04,850 --> 00:55:09,190
Speaker 5: many different ways. And it's very discouraging. You know what

1053
00:55:09,330 --> 00:55:09,870
Speaker 5: I mean?

1054
00:55:10,250 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: Is this the management or the fans or the other

1055
00:55:14,340 --> 00:55:15,219
Speaker 1: people in the industry?

1056
00:55:15,260 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 5: People in the industry. You know, with me, I'm a

1057
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 5: leader of, I would say, a crew. You know, rap crew, whatever.

1058
00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 5: We call it Terrorist Bar, TS. And our brand, similar

1059
00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 5: to them, they the same way, is based on loyalty.

1060
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,299
Speaker 5: So our brand is based on loyalty. You mess with

1061
00:55:38,420 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 5: one of us, you mess with all of us. And

1062
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,140
Speaker 5: we don't even care if they right or wrong. The

1063
00:55:43,180 --> 00:55:46,020
Speaker 5: best I could do is talk them off the cliff.

1064
00:55:46,940 --> 00:55:49,620
Speaker 2: Right? We solid.

1065
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,230
Speaker 5: The lady that cleaned the house is solid. Everybody's standing up,

1066
00:55:53,330 --> 00:55:56,450
Speaker 5: but we go. And then, so when you see, you know,

1067
00:55:57,710 --> 00:56:01,370
Speaker 5: People turning on you and this, and then you guys.

1068
00:56:01,190 --> 00:56:05,569
Speaker 2: Just say, man, I thought this was my friend. Right?

1069
00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:08,250
Speaker 5: And then you think about it and you say, well,

1070
00:56:08,469 --> 00:56:12,820
Speaker 5: what's behind somebody turning on you? And then it always

1071
00:56:13,110 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 5: comes back to, like, jealousy or you're making more money

1072
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:16,940
Speaker 5: than them. Yeah.

1073
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 2: You're in a better position.

1074
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 5: And it's sad because I honestly, from the bottom of

1075
00:56:23,060 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 5: my heart, feel happy for everybody when they win.

1076
00:56:26,530 --> 00:56:29,189
Speaker 2: When they win, I'm happy for them.

1077
00:56:29,370 --> 00:56:31,930
Speaker 1: You know, when you say that, it's not any different

1078
00:56:32,010 --> 00:56:34,330
Speaker 1: than what I was going through. When all this stuff

1079
00:56:34,350 --> 00:56:36,270
Speaker 1: was happening to me in New York, reading in the

1080
00:56:36,350 --> 00:56:40,190
Speaker 1: newspaper all the time, you don't know how many people

1081
00:56:40,350 --> 00:56:41,430
Speaker 1: others jumped on.

1082
00:56:42,430 --> 00:56:45,870
Speaker 2: You jumped on. You couldn't believe it. I won't go

1083
00:56:45,890 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 2: into detail, but it's in the book.

1084
00:56:47,390 --> 00:56:51,020
Speaker 1: But I have a daughter and a mother jumped on

1085
00:56:51,660 --> 00:56:55,259
Speaker 1: trying to make things happen. They hired people to do

1086
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: bad things to me and around me. They jumped on.

1087
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: It was daily. It was every day. So when the

1088
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: season was over, me and the wife, we get up.

1089
00:57:05,540 --> 00:57:08,529
Speaker 1: We said, where are we going? If you're looking for me,

1090
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:14,980
Speaker 1: I'm in Hong Kong, Singapore, Greece. Panama, you know, we're

1091
00:57:15,020 --> 00:57:18,300
Speaker 1: gone because you got to clear your head. And we

1092
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,730
Speaker 1: always said with all the people doing different things, sometimes

1093
00:57:21,770 --> 00:57:24,209
Speaker 1: we're your friends. We're the people that are on your

1094
00:57:24,290 --> 00:57:28,450
Speaker 1: side that, you know, love you and protect you. My wife,

1095
00:57:28,490 --> 00:57:31,950
Speaker 1: who's sitting in the audience, she said, I'm going to remember.

1096
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,740
Speaker 1: I'm going to remember where were our friends You know,

1097
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,220
Speaker 1: so you know who you're friends with.

1098
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,500
Speaker 2: When it gets real, they disperse. Oh, yeah. And then

1099
00:57:40,540 --> 00:57:42,940
Speaker 2: when it gets better, you know, hey, let's sit down

1100
00:57:42,980 --> 00:57:45,740
Speaker 2: for that meal. Let's travel together. You can't do that

1101
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: no more. But you know what?

1102
00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:54,290
Speaker 5: There's a great show, Pablo Escobar, right? And in the show,

1103
00:57:54,310 --> 00:57:58,550
Speaker 5: if it's real life, you pull out a little book.

1104
00:57:59,930 --> 00:58:02,550
Speaker 5: You write your name. You be like, yeah, you know,

1105
00:58:03,260 --> 00:58:06,940
Speaker 5: The man, the butcher, Pablo, disrespected your mother. He said, Pablo,

1106
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:17,470
Speaker 5: the butcher. It could be a year later. Pablo, the butcher,

1107
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:20,370
Speaker 5: going to creep up on you. They're going to get Pablo,

1108
00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:23,790
Speaker 5: the butcher. And he always kept these notes. Rich is

1109
00:58:23,850 --> 00:58:26,830
Speaker 5: almost like that. Like Rich playing my brother. He's like,

1110
00:58:27,450 --> 00:58:31,980
Speaker 5: he won't forget nothing. Anybody do anything funny, Rich is like,

1111
00:58:33,180 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 5: I got them in the book.

1112
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 2: I got them in the book. Oh, yeah. But I remember,

1113
00:58:38,020 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: because times, they're not always good.

1114
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: You know, there's not a straight line from being nothing,

1115
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,740
Speaker 1: just growing up to who we are today.

1116
00:58:45,820 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 5: So you, like, I'm from the Bronx. You know, I see,

1117
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:53,180
Speaker 5: you know, Cardi B. I see French Montana. I see

1118
00:58:53,820 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 5: A Boogie. I see these guys come out the Bronx,

1119
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,380
Speaker 5: and I feel like it's always home, right?

1120
00:58:59,980 --> 00:59:02,170
Speaker 2: You from Minnesota. Right?

1121
00:59:02,410 --> 00:59:06,820
Speaker 5: What was that like when Prince was killing it? Did

1122
00:59:06,860 --> 00:59:09,310
Speaker 5: you feel like, yo, we got one, Minnesota?

1123
00:59:09,490 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Jimmy Jam? Like, what was that like? Oh, no.

1124
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,780
Speaker 1: But even though I was by that time living in

1125
00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, where I live now, you know, I'm very

1126
00:59:22,820 --> 00:59:27,380
Speaker 1: happy for them. You know, we became friends after Prince.

1127
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,340
Speaker 1: I didn't get to know, but his music always listened

1128
00:59:30,380 --> 00:59:33,730
Speaker 1: to his music and the music that I was listening to.

1129
00:59:33,770 --> 00:59:35,610
Speaker 5: It feel like home. Like when you heard it, you

1130
00:59:35,650 --> 00:59:37,350
Speaker 5: was like, that's that Minnesota sound.

1131
00:59:37,530 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And, um, what Jimmy and Terry put together.

1132
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: There are other people I can just call up or

1133
00:59:44,460 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. But they helped so many

1134
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,490
Speaker 1: people with their careers, you know, producing the music, Janet Jackson.

1135
00:59:51,670 --> 00:59:55,350
Speaker 2: SOS, man. My favorite band, SOS. Oh, yeah.

1136
00:59:55,850 --> 00:59:58,330
Speaker 1: Oh, we got, we can name a lot of people,

1137
00:59:58,350 --> 01:00:02,090
Speaker 1: even Lizzo coming out, you know, from Minnesota and everything. But,

1138
01:00:03,420 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's a good place to be from, you know,

1139
01:00:06,180 --> 01:00:08,300
Speaker 1: because people would, It's come up to me many times

1140
01:00:08,340 --> 01:00:09,740
Speaker 1: because I didn't have an accent.

1141
01:00:09,910 --> 01:00:11,130
Speaker 2: Where are you from, man?

1142
01:00:11,890 --> 01:00:15,330
Speaker 1: You know, I could tell it wasn't Mississippi or Alabama

1143
01:00:15,950 --> 01:00:19,010
Speaker 1: or wherever, you know, Minnesota.

1144
01:00:19,210 --> 01:00:19,750
Speaker 2: Is it really?

1145
01:00:20,470 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: But it was a good place where I grew up.

1146
01:00:22,340 --> 01:00:26,580
Speaker 1: My neighborhood was a mixed neighborhood. They called it Rondo area.

1147
01:00:27,330 --> 01:00:30,090
Speaker 1: They ran the freeway right through the middle of the,

1148
01:00:30,210 --> 01:00:30,470
Speaker 1: you know.

1149
01:00:30,490 --> 01:00:32,870
Speaker 2: They did that in the Bronx too. You read about

1150
01:00:32,950 --> 01:00:33,350
Speaker 2: it now.

1151
01:00:33,410 --> 01:00:36,780
Speaker 1: Yeah, right through the community because you can't do nothing

1152
01:00:36,820 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: about it.

1153
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: What's it called? Imminent domain, right? Yeah, yeah. Build it

1154
01:00:42,060 --> 01:00:42,980
Speaker 2: right over your house.

1155
01:00:43,140 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 3: Right.

1156
01:00:43,380 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 2: You know that? Get out. No, no. They don't give

1157
01:00:46,740 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 2: you no money. They just build the joint like over

1158
01:00:49,460 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: your house. Like your house, you out. Move. We're building

1159
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,900
Speaker 2: something here. So I saw all that happening.

1160
01:00:55,940 --> 01:00:58,260
Speaker 1: But the people I grew up with whether I went

1161
01:00:58,300 --> 01:01:03,170
Speaker 1: to church, school, sports, it was always a mixed group.

1162
01:01:03,850 --> 01:01:04,510
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1163
01:01:04,550 --> 01:01:07,950
Speaker 1: So I never had a hang up about people from

1164
01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:12,210
Speaker 1: a different religion or background, last name. I got Rudy

1165
01:01:12,250 --> 01:01:16,750
Speaker 1: Martinez over here, Charlie Knoll. I got Kevin Smith. You know,

1166
01:01:16,830 --> 01:01:19,410
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the pictures, that's the

1167
01:01:19,450 --> 01:01:23,490
Speaker 1: way I grew up. So I'm always, they talk diversity

1168
01:01:23,510 --> 01:01:26,770
Speaker 1: or whatever. I think that, whatever you do, when you

1169
01:01:26,830 --> 01:01:30,310
Speaker 1: include people from different areas of life, you're probably going

1170
01:01:30,330 --> 01:01:33,330
Speaker 1: to do better because they know what they're talking about.

1171
01:01:33,390 --> 01:01:34,210
Speaker 2: They've been there.

1172
01:01:34,690 --> 01:01:39,540
Speaker 1: You know, you see these corporations making stupid mistakes because, oh,

1173
01:01:39,580 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know people weren't going to like that with

1174
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,780
Speaker 1: that black face on it or whatever, or the language

1175
01:01:45,820 --> 01:01:50,050
Speaker 1: that you used or whatever, you know, you know, and we're,

1176
01:01:50,070 --> 01:01:53,090
Speaker 1: we're in a messed up kind of a perilous time.

1177
01:01:53,150 --> 01:01:57,350
Speaker 5: I won't get into politics. or anything like that. Listen,

1178
01:01:57,370 --> 01:02:01,770
Speaker 5: let me tell you something. This book is so valuable.

1179
01:02:01,990 --> 01:02:04,750
Speaker 2: Everybody go out there and go get Touching All Bases.

1180
01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:07,770
Speaker 5: For me, that's in my house.

1181
01:02:08,050 --> 01:02:11,290
Speaker 2: Today. I got you the first one. Let me tell

1182
01:02:11,330 --> 01:02:12,970
Speaker 2: you something. I got a book.

1183
01:02:17,030 --> 01:02:19,750
Speaker 5: From the Royu family themselves in Dubai. I got some

1184
01:02:19,770 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 5: special books there. When I tell you that Dave Winfield

1185
01:02:22,860 --> 01:02:25,140
Speaker 5: going right on top of them books right there in that.

1186
01:02:25,990 --> 01:02:28,990
Speaker 2: And you're going to read part of it.

1187
01:02:29,030 --> 01:02:32,590
Speaker 5: He's using it for furniture.

1188
01:02:32,690 --> 01:02:34,990
Speaker 2: Did you do the audio? Dave, did you do an

1189
01:02:35,090 --> 01:02:38,310
Speaker 2: audio to it? Oh, yeah. Also, I'm going to listen

1190
01:02:38,350 --> 01:02:44,310
Speaker 2: to your book. Okay. On the flight. Are we toasting? 1800, baby.

1191
01:02:44,810 --> 01:02:48,650
Speaker 2: Shout out to 1800. Oh, man. Dave Winfield.

1192
01:02:48,670 --> 01:02:50,770
Speaker 5: The book is called Touching All Bases.

1193
01:02:50,810 --> 01:02:51,430
Speaker 2: Come on, give me.

1194
01:02:51,470 --> 01:02:51,730
Speaker 5: Dave.

1195
01:02:52,690 --> 01:02:55,220
Speaker 2: Let me get that book over there. With you guys.

1196
01:02:55,260 --> 01:02:57,900
Speaker 2: Hold on, let me see that. You got to hold

1197
01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 2: it up.

1198
01:02:58,700 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 4: Touching all the bases, man. Wherever you get your books from,

1199
01:03:03,180 --> 01:03:07,030
Speaker 4: you can get it right now. Not now, but right now.

1200
01:03:07,210 --> 01:03:11,950
Speaker 4: Barnes and Nobles, Amazon, wherever they sell books. My man

1201
01:03:11,990 --> 01:03:14,250
Speaker 4: don't read. He do the audio book so you can

1202
01:03:14,270 --> 01:03:16,170
Speaker 4: get the audio book also.

1203
01:03:16,670 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 2: Touching all the bases from the legend himself, Big Dave.

1204
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 2: We love you, baby. My brother.

1205
01:03:22,820 --> 01:03:23,060
Speaker 5: Hey.

1206
01:03:23,740 --> 01:03:33,230
Speaker 2: Woof. Hey, that's smooth. That's the 1800, baby. That's the 1800.

1207
01:03:33,230 --> 01:03:36,490
Speaker 2: This ain't that. That ain't this. It's crack and kiss.

1208
01:03:36,550 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 4: Make some noise for Dave Swinfield.

1209
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,460
Speaker 2: All the way up. All the way up.