1 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Russell Peters here and you're listening to Culturally Cancel. 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: Before we get into this episode, I want to let 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: you guys know what shows I got coming up in 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: case you want to see me live. June three to 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: June five, I'll be in Bridgeport, Connecticut at the Stress Factory. 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: June tenth to June, you can catch me in Irvine, 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: California at the Irvine Improv July I to July eleven. 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: I'll be in Ontario, California at the Improv There. August fifth, 9 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: August seven, I'll be in Oklahoma, Oklahoma City at the 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: Bricktown Comedy Club. In August twelve to August, I'll be 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: in Liberty Township, Ohio at the Funny Bone. There's always 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: more dates being added, so keep checking Russell Peters dot 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: com for updates and listen to Culture Canceled, and I'll 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: be letting you know about other dates. Hey, did you 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: like last week's episode? Did we leave you wanting more? Well? 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: If so, good because we have more to give. This 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: is the back in part of my Fantastic conversation with 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: Big Daddy Cane, Aery Spears, Mad Skills, and Lord for 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: nest If you're tuning in now and didn't catch last 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: week's episode, de yourself a favor and go back. You 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: can listen to them out of order, and it's all good, 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: but just make sure you listen to them both. You 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: probably better off listening to it in order. What we 24 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: talk about is the difference between a lyricist and an 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: mc our mount rushmoors of comedy and hip hop, and 26 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: we identify which places in the United States qualify as 27 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: East Coast. Hint, it's not just New York City. Enjoy 28 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: the episode, people. I know you'll love it because I 29 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: know I enjoyed doing it. It's just it's just crazy 30 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: because it's like with us. You know what I'm saying, 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: as m c s speaking for a cane and and 32 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: nest like coming from battle standpoints, we know how to 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: use words to make motherfucker's feel lesser than themselves, and 34 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: y'all do the same thing in a joking way. We 35 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: do it in a competitive way where we want to 36 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: win the battlest whether it's at or you know, comedically, 37 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: when people go words don't words are ridiculously powerful. I 38 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: got what I call the uh the nuclear button, where 39 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: like I said, I've said things, and people have wanted 40 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: to fight me. But I always said, if I get 41 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: into a situation like sometimes, you know, dudes be with 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: their girls, their girls be drunk, the girls be worse 43 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: than the dudes, but the girls are out of control 44 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: and the dude won't check them. So you know my 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: thing is I'll say they would dude, hey man, control 46 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: your bitch. Nigga. Bitch nigga. Now you say that you 47 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: better be prepared hit because especially as certain black different 48 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: that hit different. So I said, I'll never say that 49 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: unless unless I'm ready to throw hands, I got a 50 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: good exit plan or it's well deserved, because if it's 51 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: well deserved, the crowded ride with you on that in 52 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: in the in the battle. I always when I was 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: heavy in the battle on the battle circuit, I was 54 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: always like, I will watch the rapper as I was, 55 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: and if I saw his hands do like this, I 56 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: was like, damn Ni I won. Like you want to 57 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: fight me? I want't? Like I know I got you 58 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: now because I see you well en up. Well, let 59 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: me ask you all a question because since I'm here 60 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: with rap Royalty, Um, how come battle rappers are often 61 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: labeled as not being able to make records like like 62 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: it's almost like street ball versus NBA pro Ball, because 63 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: that street ship don't cut it in the NBA. And 64 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: why why with hip hop? The the battle rappers can't 65 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: seem to make good music outside the battle of it. 66 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: It's a transition and I had to learn that transition 67 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: because if you listen to my earlier records, I never 68 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: know when to stop rapping. Nobody put it in a 69 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: format for me. You could do twelve bars here sixteen. 70 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: You know, they ain't schedule it out. So I'm doing 71 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: it how I feel. You know, I'm listening to the 72 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: message Mellie. Mellie had no hooking that I mean, if 73 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: you know he did. But listen how long the rat 74 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: went And so I'm thinking, right, you just rapp until 75 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: you proved your points. So my ship was like fifty 76 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: sixty bars until. I mean, I look at myself now 77 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: and go, damn man. I didn't throw away maybe three 78 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: or four albums because if I would have broke the 79 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: ship down to twelve sixteen, you know, and it's a 80 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: it's a formula, and they don't teach you the formula. 81 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: While I I wasn't taught the formula. I just came 82 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: out the street and I kinda listened to records that 83 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: were out and kind of patterned my my songs behind 84 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: certain things. But it's a transition. But once you learn 85 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: the transition, if I found out I could put my 86 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: my toughest eight rhyme lines in the in the verse 87 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: and that was it. Oh man, I'll probably be on 88 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: my tenth album right now. But you gotta learn the transition. 89 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: You have to learn to transition. A lot of people 90 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: have a difficult time really processing that. You know, like 91 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: your battle rappers a certain way that you're used to 92 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: doing things, attack and approach that you use, where like 93 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: you come into the studio trying to use that same thing, 94 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: not realizing that less is better, you know, bring it back. 95 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: So and I mean I had to learn that from 96 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: Bis Markets, that was my teacher. I had to learn 97 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: that from him because I started as a battle rapper. 98 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: That's all I knew how to do was battle people 99 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: and just spit bars at you. You know, he had 100 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: to teach me how to structure songs. He had to 101 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: even teach me how to read an audience. You know. 102 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: Bids used to have me on stage saying funny rhymes 103 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: about girls because you know, bids like the funny stuff 104 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: to comedy stuff. So I you know, I had funny 105 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: rhymes about girls and I would say these on stage 106 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, okay, yes it's cool. But 107 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: then one night we had to do a show opening 108 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: up for Dougie Fashion Slick Rick when they had Lotty 109 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: Dotty and I'm like, this is what Rick do. I'm like, 110 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm a sound like a biter doing this ship, man, 111 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, no, I'm not doing business, like 112 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: trust me, trust me. And I didn't listen. And when 113 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: they started be boxing, I just started and the whole 114 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: crowd unit, yes, someone gonna get behind again, like yeah, 115 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: like like the whole crowd just ignoring us, you know, yeah, 116 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: and that like that, and that's when I learned that Okay, yeah, 117 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: you don't know everything. And it's like it's it's just 118 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: different levels. You need to sit back, listen and study 119 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: this ship, you know for real. You know, can I 120 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: can I murder much or a loaded lux beat, a 121 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: NAS or a jay Z. If they were to try 122 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: to go head up as a battle to battle battle, 123 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean a battle on you know, in a battle 124 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: in their area, the Uh, they definitely got the heads 125 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: up because it's not a beat that they gotta rhyme too. 126 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: They don't got to be syncoparedd. It's almost just like talking. 127 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: It's almost like poetry, you know what I'm saying. But 128 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying to piggyback on what Kane said, 129 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: BIS taught him. You know what I'm saying, How to 130 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: structure songs, how to talk to women. I directly learned 131 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: from Kane without him even knowing that marriage is serious. Hey, 132 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: one of my favorite No no, he's saying, like I 133 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: had that part down. I didn't need no help hal that, alright. 134 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: So from listening to songs like Smooth Operator, ain't no 135 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: half step, but I learned how to get a line 136 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: off in a in a in a cool song that 137 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: girls still would like. And you you you know you're 138 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: talking about me as an artist and a writer, and 139 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm running. I ran with the ghostwritering thing. 140 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: But I got that from him, from from him doing 141 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: records for Sharon Te and doing records for bids like 142 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: the original goat of that whole ghost right and ship 143 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: is right here before whole before, you know what I mean? 144 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: Before all of that. So for me, not you know, 145 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: knowing how to structure songs came from just listening to 146 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: along Live the King came from listening to another Victory. 147 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: I like all that ship And even when he wanted 148 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: to get his rap shut off, he still got to 149 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: wrap shit off when he wanted to lay back and 150 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: and and take his foot off the gas, it was 151 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: still amazing to me, you know what I'm saying. It 152 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: was still amazing to me. One of the favorite cats 153 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: I like to listen to is Chino Excel because Chino 154 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: I was reviewing the news and his rhymes. But Chino 155 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: never really had a song song that you could be like, yo, 156 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: I could play this at a party, but I would 157 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: always separate an m C from a from a beat. 158 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: You know. It was like, well, I like this beats 159 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: and play the instrument. But Gino was one of them 160 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: cats really like Gino, don't use the beat, just sucking 161 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: a capella and ship because I want to hear what 162 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: you want you gotta say, like I like to to 163 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: be able to get those lines off, like a killer 164 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: line to me just stands out so much, you know 165 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I heard, uh, I was listening 166 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: to J Cole's project last night, and that motherfucker said 167 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: he said, um he said, he said, I really can't 168 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: complain about nothing. I don't know Bill Cosby ship, but 169 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: if they still sleeping, fun him. And I was like, 170 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: that's a cold line, like and to to even put 171 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: the disclaimer in it, like not don't know Bill Cosby ship, 172 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: but if they're sleeping, fuck him. And I was like, 173 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: oh ship and cold. Was one of them kids who 174 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: that That's what I mean. It's about them young kids 175 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: paying attention to what was happening before them and flipping 176 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: it into their own, into their own length. And and 177 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: so kids like Cole, you can tell when they're paying 178 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: homage to what came before them. Did Was there ever 179 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: any moment where there was some tension maybe between you 180 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: and LLL because you know y'all had that smooth ladyship. 181 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: You know he would never sit in a locker room 182 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: or on the bus. You can't think give me baby 183 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: because ellis he always been competitive? You Macaine, ain't me man. 184 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: He chopped the man. But I'm gonna mok it with 185 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: the cream. Baby. It's crazy man, ain't nick the goat change? 186 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: And you know got all the girls. But you know, 187 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: I just stripped down to my to my skippies, have 188 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: brought myself for putting mine round myself and putting you 189 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: have you have seen nipples when you got putting on it. 190 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: It'sa it's bananas. It's crazy, man. Was it ever? Was 191 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: it ever any anything between y'all? Like you not really 192 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: not really? Not Me and L always and you know, 193 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: real cool. He's someone that I've always you know, um, 194 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: always respected and even right now today. You know, when 195 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: you talk about, you know, the greatest rapper, He's who 196 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: I always referred to as to go. You know, I 197 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: was actually texting with L today and I told him 198 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: he was here and he said, he said, he's in 199 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: New York. Ever come by and hung out, But he said, 200 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: to tell you piece, I did a movie with LLL 201 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: lot low budget movie out of sink. Uh. LL don't 202 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: really have a sense of humor, man, He does when 203 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: you joke with him, and I remember I did at 204 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: that time. My manager was Norm Nixon, uh and Debbie Allen. 205 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: So a lot of seleps come by the house and 206 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: I remember, you know, I'm saying, a man, do L 207 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: for L. And I did it and he was like 208 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: your signment, so looking formant for real though, you know 209 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: what I mean? You know what I mean. So you 210 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: know he takes himself serious, right. I think he's chilled 211 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: out on that over the years. Like I remember when 212 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: I listened to UH, when I listened to UM, I 213 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: listened to UH, I shot you the joint with with 214 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: all of them, with Prodigy, rest in peace, everybody. I'm 215 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: saying Keith for Foxy, and Foxy is on the record. 216 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: Foxy is super high at the time, and you know 217 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: she do her you know, she do a verse, bye bye, 218 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: she do a whole thing. And Ll comes on at 219 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: the end of the record. They're just talking all this 220 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: crazy ship and He's just like, yeah, female rappers too, 221 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck boot And I was just like, damn, 222 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: like this nigga, you can still be on the record 223 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: with this Nigga's hits Cannabis, you could be on the 224 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: record with this nigga. He'll still like, nah, you ain't 225 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: working with me. And I love that that that bravido 226 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: of just like na, ain't nobody fucking because as a rapper, 227 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: we've all had it, like he ain't seeing me not 228 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: on this rap ship nigger like so he it seemed 229 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: like l just never lets it go ye, like like 230 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: to cannabis a new one, like in the same song, 231 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: like and I'm just like, damn bro. But did he 232 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: really win that? Well, I don't think it really want that, 233 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: but it ain't you know, the battling lawns. But the 234 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: war he won. Yeah, set him up. He set him 235 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: up lovely. It's almost like it's almost like he set 236 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: him up for the for the fail. It's almost like 237 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: I tapped you on your shoulder, but I'm really the 238 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: funk over here, and when you look up, he got 239 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: his I've always felt like, if you can't, you gotta 240 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: honor him, for no other reason than the fact that, again, 241 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: longevity is hard to maintain this game, and this man 242 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: has been around for decades. He's like the rap version 243 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: of Robert de Niro. He's been around now. In terms 244 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: of pound for pounds, skills, I'm not saying he's not skillful, 245 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: but I don't know. He's in my top ten. In 246 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: terms of ability, he's definitely, He's definitely in the top 247 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: ten terms You notice what I said. Notice what I 248 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: said when I said, when I when we talk about 249 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: greatest rapper. You know, I'm not talking about greatest lyricists. 250 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm talking about you know, greatest rapper. Like you know, 251 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: it's like when you talk about the greatest lyricists, you're 252 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: gonna refer to people such as you know, James Z, 253 00:13:55,559 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: you know me, Jada Kiss, Cameras, Big pun So you 254 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: just named all the people and in there yet No, 255 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: but I mean actually I would put l in there. 256 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: I don't know where Foot put him in here. But 257 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: now when you talk about you know, like your greatest rappers, 258 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying as far as like impact wise, 259 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, now you're talking about you know, L L. 260 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: Jay Z, tupac Um, Little Wayne Um Ship, Missy Elliott Um. 261 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: You know it's it's it's it's uh. But you see 262 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: what I'm going No, no, listen. You know many arguments 263 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: I've gotten to people with when they go anytime people 264 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: talk about the top five to top ten rappers, there 265 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: were still parking there and I always go listen. Part 266 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: to me was more about emotion. You felt his emotion 267 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: when I with tear the club. You wanted to tear 268 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: the club up when he said, dear Mama, you wanted 269 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: to hug your mama now lyrical. They never quoted the 270 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: bar saying no, no, no, I I agree with you, 271 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: but you know, it's like, you know, it's like touch 272 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: people hard, so dear Foy, it's like, you know, he 273 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: is definitely one of the greatest rappers ever. You know 274 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: said like like, but I mean it's like lyrically, he not, 275 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: he wouldn't be in my top five. 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That list goes with 310 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: your education on the history of of hip hop. Because 311 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: the more educated and deeper you are in hip hop, 312 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: your list is going very from the beginning. You might 313 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: say Komo D. You might say Meli Mel. You might 314 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: based on your knowledge, but if your knowledge don't go 315 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: that far back, then you're gonna say the most current people. 316 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: My son's gonna say Kendrick. He ain't gonna say nobody else. 317 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: L L. You have to look like he said for 318 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: l L be here now and evolved from thirty something years. 319 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: That's a that's award itself. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 320 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: You know, we talk, But he wouldn't be in your 321 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: top five. But you you could say he's not in 322 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: the top five, but then you might put somebody and 323 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: your top five that ain't last one of seven eight years. 324 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: But let me ask this question the way I redefined it. 325 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: Would you put him in your top five of greatest rappers? 326 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: Not is lyricists of greatest rappers. See that's probably where 327 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: my education on rappers is bad, because I assume rappers 328 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: and lyricists got you. Yeah, well, I mean you you 329 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: you you gotta understand you had lyrical mcs in the 330 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: late seventies, um early eighties lyrical mcs and they get 331 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: on stage and Busy be where they asked out, Busy 332 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: be where they asked out. And the best ship he's 333 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: saying is bomb with the bomb, the danger Dang DIGGI 334 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: Diggy Diggy, shake your boogie to the bang bang boogie. 335 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And busy where they ass 336 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: out ain't nothing lyrical. You know what I'm saying. Matter fact, 337 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: I'll give you a prime example the mother in besting Um. 338 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: When I was on LLL Nitro Tour, It's me Slick 339 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: Rick de La Soul and n w A was opening 340 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: up LLL Nitro Tour nineteen eighty nine. I believe a 341 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: ninety I think nine eighty nine and Yo, LLL high 342 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: is Busy b as his hype man. When he got there, 343 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: My dance a scrap lover. He said, the funk busy 344 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: gonna do the bomb with the bombs up. I'm like, bro, 345 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: watch and learn. I'm like, Yo, don't underestimate busy be 346 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: watching learn now. One of the problems where the energy 347 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: wasn't there for LLL was because when he came out 348 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 1: on stage, he came out with the female dancers and 349 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: they are dancing and rubbing on him when he first 350 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: come out on stage. But this is a ladies man. 351 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: The women in the crowd don't want to see no 352 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: other women rubbing on you. So they're not screaming, they're 353 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: not sharing because they're mad. Yeah, they're mad at these 354 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: other female dancers. The dynamic all of a sudden change 355 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: because now when LLL come out and the girls come 356 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: towards him, Busy be crazy ass on the side. Bring on, 357 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: bring on all man, bring on the dancing bitches, bring 358 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: on and and and you know, the dynamic just changed 359 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: so crazy with now you're hearing the women losing their mind. 360 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: Like that first show, when Busy started doing that, everything changed, 361 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it's like, like I said, Busy, 362 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: he's not a lyrical m C. But he knows how 363 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: to get you on the stage. He knew how to 364 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: control the crowd, you know what I'm saying. So it's 365 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: like with MCS, you know, because it's like it didn't 366 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: start with with m MCS. It didn't start as being lyrical, 367 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, like like from from Hollywood on up to 368 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: Keith Cowboy. You know, I don't think any of them 369 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: were real lyrical Hollywood Eddie chiba Um Coke, Well Coke 370 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: didn't rhyme. I'm talking Hollywood Eddie chiba Um Love Buck 371 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: Star Ski. You know, like like like like they wasn't lyrical. 372 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: It didn't become lyrical too, like I think seventy seven. 373 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: Like like with mel when you said when you said 374 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: earlier about how in the eighties Grab had that particular sound, 375 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: it felt like guys like you rock Kim were a 376 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: head of Yall's time because you didn't have that sound 377 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: rock him. When I heard some of rock Kim's first work, 378 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: I went, this is different, just the way his approach 379 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: the music, this is different. Your ship didn't sound nothing 380 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: like uh run DMC or Hun Hu hun on the Hunter. 381 00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: It didn't sound nothing like that. So you know that's 382 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:05,239 Speaker 1: the game evolving because you got the earlier blueprints and 383 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: then you got like you watched like that's like we're 384 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: Lebron at right now. But would Lebron be there if 385 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't you for Jordan's And wouldn't Jordan be there 386 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for other players before him. It's a 387 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: game that constantly evolves. I mean it's going special, it's 388 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: going to special Olympics now. But because the game, you know, 389 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: because we had a point, we we had a point 390 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: now where the game is being dictated and the super 391 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: the super talented dudes. If you don't have that backing, 392 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: then you can get lost in the source because it's 393 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: about views now and oh he got a million views. 394 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: But like I was saying, from the early years, I 395 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: was a fan of Busy Bee. I watched him when 396 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: Jazz J snuck me into the dance interia and he's 397 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: just not even doing records. He's just rocking routines that's 398 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: making the crowd go absolutely bananas. And what I've learned 399 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: with that being an m C is that mcs could 400 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: rock records. They could rock crowds without hit records. Rappers 401 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: need hit records. MC's don't. They'll get up on the stage, 402 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: go acapella, and it's over. It's over. Sometimes it's over. 403 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: I've seen dudes get up on stage and kill it 404 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: so bad that when the headliner comes on, they can't 405 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: even keep up with the dudes that opened up Because 406 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: like I said, MCing is an art that's being able 407 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: to control the crowd, that's being able to read a 408 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: crowd that's being able to say it's like a comedian 409 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: being able to know when Yo, I did these new jokes. 410 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: I know when I say this ship, it's gonna be crazy. 411 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: It's the same thing when M seeing when you write 412 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: that line, or when I say this, I'm expecting that response. 413 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: Rappers can't do that. Let me just say this and 414 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: I leave it at this. Dougie Fresh down on stage 415 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: for forty minutes and don't do but two goddamn songs. 416 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: This is true, This is true. Greatest entertainer you mean 417 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: where he's actually rhyming. No, he only does show and 418 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: you hear the show and lolly doty no, no, no, no, 419 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: the crowd do lottiddy You here the show and keep 420 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: rising to the town the yeah, if he got a little, 421 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: that's vicious. Though, that's vicious. I'm saying catalog. He performs 422 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: the show, and he performs, keep rises to the top. 423 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: The entire crowd does lotty dotty. He don't even do 424 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: that ship and will be on stage and will be 425 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: on stage forty minutes, yeah, forty minutes. All other stuff 426 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: going nothing but crowd calling, response participation stuff. That's why 427 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm glad that I'm glad I studied who I studied 428 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: when I think talking about people like Kane and Doug 429 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: and rock him like, so I still got the pen, Yeah, 430 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: I still got the pen. But I still know how 431 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: to get off on stage, you know what I'm saying, 432 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: and perform and give a show. And I learned that 433 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: from Dunkey Dope. Not counting uh Vanilla Ice because I 434 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: think he's no, no, no in your top five the bombs, uh, 435 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: But all the other white rappers prior to Eminem and 436 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: she searched the Beastie Boys, milk Bone, it was, he 437 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: had a high red. It feels like, obviously Eminem has 438 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: been held as the greatest of the white guy era. 439 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: Of all the white guys out there was was searched 440 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 1: in all the other dudes. Yeah you really back in 441 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: in in the mid eighties, and this is befourth third base, 442 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: you understand me. In the mid eighties, Search had a 443 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: little independent song called Hey boy searches to come in 444 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: Latin Quarters with his his flat top hip hop clothes 445 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: on and the hairspray and walk in and get on 446 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: the middle of the floor and start whopping doing the 447 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: running Man. All this is stuff, and everybody around in 448 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: circle circle around. MC search, go white boy, go white boy. 449 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 1: They love search l in Latin quarters. Yes, yes, like 450 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: search was like you know he like back then search 451 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: could get me in. Wow, I would be MC search 452 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: plus one. They're getting the quarters. All are so easy 453 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: to impress as soon as a white motherfucker starts talking, like, 454 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: all go crazy for that that guy right there, Look 455 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: at this one, Look at this white boy. Now, I 456 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: just gotta keep it funk Search is hip hop. You 457 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: know I'm saying that's dope, man, I mean you know, 458 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: um yeah, searches hip hop and you know I got 459 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: and what about Beast Boys because they seemed like they 460 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: started off hip hop and then turn rock. No, No, 461 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: Beast Boys started off punk punk hip hop. I didn't 462 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: even know about the punk stage. I didn't know they 463 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: was punk punk. They was downtown, like the Downtown. My 464 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: first you know taste of them was of course, License 465 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: to m Yeah, fight for your Right to Part. So 466 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: I thought they were straight hip hop. I mean holding 467 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: down hit It, Paul Revere straight out of Brooklyn. Yeah, 468 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: I mean I love those songs. I mean it was 469 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: like it was type of thing where they had their 470 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: own lane. It was different than what we was doing, 471 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: but you know, it was still appreciated and it was love, 472 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: you know. So I mean it's like like I call 473 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: search a lyricists. You know what I'm saying. I don't 474 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: call beast boys lyricists. They had dope ass jams. They 475 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: had dope jams. They did, you know, the whole brand 476 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: and lane of their own. And I was saying something 477 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: when at that that error, like we're talking about the eighties, 478 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: if if black people like just ship at that time 479 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: white boys and let's not exclude um what's jump around? 480 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: But this might be with my Last? But other than 481 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: that song, what else did they do? No? But I 482 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: mean I'm I'm talking about you know, man, what's his name? 483 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: Ever Last? But I'm saying ever Last was a lyricist 484 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: though ever Last was don't talking he started? Yeah, yeah, 485 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: he was with ice in them right, Yeah, he was 486 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: ever ever Last, ever Last lyricist like dude got bars. 487 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: Dude got bars? He like like like like ever Last, 488 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah he got bars. The thing I say about Eminem 489 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: is this um as opposed to everyone else that we mentioned. 490 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: But the thing I said about Eminem is this Eminem 491 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: is not only a dope white MC eminem it's a 492 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: dope fucking MC regardless of what motherfucker color you are. Release, 493 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: release a dump album, an album letter, and it's only 494 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: shipped because we didn't dig it. I like, like I 495 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: said before, I've never heard anybody rapper, anybody manipulate viol 496 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: sounds the way he does. Yes, and the fact that 497 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: by the time I hear his verse, I know it's 498 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: as close to perfect as it can get because whatever 499 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: word could have fit there, that motherfucker already tried it 500 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: and it didn't work. So I listened to his bars 501 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: and go back through the verses and be like, why 502 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: didn't Oh, yeah, well that wouldn't have fit right, Okay, 503 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: well he could have said, now I couldn't because that 504 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't have fit. Like, so you're talking about a mother 505 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: who would take a month to right a sixteen. We 506 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: don't do that kind of ship. See this, And this 507 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: is why I have such a deep respect for rap 508 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: uh as the R form because listen, I can rap, 509 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: but I can't wrap, you know what I'm saying? Like 510 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: I could, it would take me two years to come 511 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: up with something solid. But if I smoke enough weed 512 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: and I zone out, I know how to punch lines 513 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: and metaphors. But there's so this ship is such high 514 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: chemistry that I tell people, unless you like some of 515 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: the stories you're telling about how to work the crowd, 516 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: how to know how to do this, the words you 517 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: go to the vowels, this ship is such a chemistry, 518 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: I go, I can't do that. I cannot do that. 519 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: It's mind boggling how motherfucker's come up with that. That's 520 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: why when I hear again not to keep beating the drum, 521 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: when I hear this garbage that, I go, you know, 522 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: it's no effort. I can't come on man. Nas did 523 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: a song where he run backwards. You know how hard 524 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: it is to wrap forward, like come on man? You know? 525 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: And on that album he did a couple of years ago, 526 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: Kama Kazi, he did a couple of songs in the 527 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: flow that the kids are doing now and fucking yeah 528 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: murdered it, called them all out on their bullshit. I 529 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: think it was the I mean, it was so much, 530 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: so much. I mean, and I era was just crazy 531 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: because we was listening and holding all to all the words. 532 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: And I know, for one thing, when I heard run 533 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: DMC live at the fun House, just one line if 534 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: you said you heard my rhom, we're gonna have to 535 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: fight because I just made the motherfucker up last night. 536 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Ship, Yeah, that was the first 537 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: time I heard motherfucker a rap two three and m 538 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: m is. 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To listen man um and when 573 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 1: we talk about again rappers versus lyricists to me, DMX 574 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: energy felt then he would lyrically say some ship to funk. 575 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: You up that footage of them all behind backstage and 576 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: they freestyling, L I mean not al jay Z d 577 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: m X, And he said the last line to his 578 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: rhyme when he set up, I take the straight razor 579 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: and put pin stripes across your windpipe. Mm hmm, I 580 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: put pinch stripes across your window. I went, God damn 581 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: Like for for us as rappers went up, when a 582 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: motherfucker gets some shipped off, and we wish that we 583 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: had said it. That's the ultimate compliment, Like like when 584 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: I see dudes and I walk up to you and 585 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: go bro nigger when you said, who like just just 586 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,959 Speaker 1: getting bags at the airport and just get your panel, 587 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: I walked the funk off. You know what I'm saying, Like, 588 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: that's the ultimate compliment to a rapper to MC, you 589 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I said that rap numerous occasions. 590 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: G rap always has some ship to people never really 591 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: paid attention to unless you're a hip hop head. And 592 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: even it was hard to for me because it always 593 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: sounds like when he wrapped, he had something hot in 594 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: his mouth because he gotta list We gotta listen. I 595 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: got past that said when he said, you wish your 596 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: name had a G. But to be a batter G boy, 597 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: you gotta play with strategy. I said, God damn right. 598 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: Like like you, you always get to a point where 599 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: you know when somebody say something, it shoppings your pen, 600 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It almost like when rock 601 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: Him did not take seven m sees put him on 602 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 1: the line, you know what I mean? That whole frours 603 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: just like bro like and it was so basic. But 604 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm just like, you put them all in the line. 605 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: Add seven more brothers that think they can rhyme. It 606 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: will take seven more before I go for mine. And 607 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: that's twenty one of them, sees eight up at the 608 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: same time. Now I have to ask this though, and 609 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: and you know again, I feel like, because y'all in 610 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: the game, you're gonna be political and you don't want 611 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: to step on them toes. I don't get honest. We 612 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 1: all East Coast people, right, facts, all right? Jay Z said, 613 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: East Coast home of the Spinners. And I'm I tell 614 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: people I'm biased. Man. I might give a little credit 615 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: to somebody else New York, but I'm about that word play. 616 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: As y'all talk about coogi wrapping this person and that 617 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: person from other regions? Is there anybody that y'all ever 618 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: looked at went whoa Yeah? I mean um um. I 619 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: always like Scarface. Yeah, scar Face always stoke with a 620 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: lyrical bees um rass car ross cass a brass cass 621 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: um um uh Andre three thousand centric for me, do 622 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: a centric with me. I'm with you football pads and 623 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: pink boots, butten ain't none of that ship in his bars. 624 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: I got you know, I got you, and I can 625 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: tell you about Come come in this alley even though 626 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: my dick out, Come on this straightup singers in this alley. 627 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: If I lost you with three stacks and dig this 628 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: here and Celo Green, Celo Green, come on with you? 629 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: What you wanna do? You want me to run through 630 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: with my gun? Drew? This niggna did some shitt he 631 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: can't undo when anybody's with them. They deserved one too, nigger. 632 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: You got me in here sucking up my good clothes 633 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: and you scan these holes. Come on, Celo Crazy, Celo Na, 634 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: I said for me, ice Cube, come out of ice 635 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: Cube fan at. I love ice Cub kids. The way 636 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: he rhymes his words do nothing for me? Did you 637 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: listen to America's Most Wanted Kids, Dan you when he 638 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 1: went against n w Oh, that was crazy. Yr dm 639 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: C came to my house at midnight to play that 640 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: ship for me. Yeah, before he came out. You know. 641 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: The first thing is nobody should show up at your 642 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: house that I'm coming over with no vessel at midnight. 643 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: You know what. I stuck my chin out for that. 644 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: I stuck my chin out for that one. What did 645 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: you do? It is like Kan, I'm coming up over Sling. 646 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: That's the same Nickel telling you get in the alley 647 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: with my dick out, it's all good. So you don't 648 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: have no rappers that ain't from New York that you 649 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: fun with. No, not a one coast way you know? 650 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: Like that? I like SnO his earlier work again po 651 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: Poc from New York if we're being honest, um, But 652 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 1: other than Snoop and pot Man, I just especially when 653 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: the South was hitting, I'm not a Southern fan. I'm 654 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: with you all that. I'm just saying that, I like 655 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: Nigga said, read yo this and can you know there's 656 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 1: some other fucking is all right? So you you're telling 657 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 1: me that's it. I just said about a cel those 658 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: wasn't he wasn't spitting. I gotta get past the fact 659 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: that this nigga is built like R two D two. 660 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: That ain't got nothing to do with the bars. That 661 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: ain't got nothing to do with the bars. So hey, 662 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: I take his vest and I don't have nothing to 663 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: do with the bars. Hear you. But I'm looking at you, 664 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: and you built like a trash can nigga, and they 665 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: built like a propane tank. So who who? Who is 666 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: in your top five? Just give me a couple I 667 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: know DMX no not top five? Top five is jay Z, 668 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: Biggie nas Uh, Jada kiss Uh, rock Him? I stop 669 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: right there. That's five, right and and and really I'm 670 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: battling between rock Him and M and M. You wild 671 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: And you didn't even say this, nigga, Well damn don't 672 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: expect you to lie. No, no, no, no, no no 673 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: no no no, I'm not saying that. When you said 674 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm battling you, you lost me Because you said I'm 675 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: battling with rock Him and Jada Kiss. You lost me, right, 676 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: absolutely not. So who takes the fifth spot? Jay Z 677 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't be on my list? Are you crazy? No? Crazy? 678 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 1: J wouldn't be listen. Listen. I put Jazz oh before 679 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: I put jay Z Listen. I mean he did influence, 680 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: but let's set it. Let's put it. When people say 681 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: to me, when people say to me comedically, who's your 682 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore? You I can name my Mount Rushmore, but 683 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: then to me, that's the Mount Olympus. There is the Gods, 684 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, Red Fox, Bill Cosby, Oh, the Gods, 685 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: now Mount Olympus. I mean, I mean, uh, Mount Rushmore, 686 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle, Patrise, O'Neil, Tommy Davidson, Bill Burr. You know 687 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm just saying with Gaine, it's 688 00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: like carling in there. I love he's a pioneer, but 689 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, He's in the list somewhere, 690 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 1: but not not to listen. Like I said that time 691 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: when I met your mel Rose, you showed mad love. 692 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: You stopped your car and called me, and then and 693 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: then when you said yo, I'm eries, I'm like, no, 694 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 1: I know who you are. A brother. You know you 695 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: showed mad love. I appreciate. I don't have to be 696 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: in your top five. I just appreciate you, you know, 697 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: respecting huh. You know I don't have to be in 698 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: your ID, and man, I can't fathom a top five 699 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 1: without him in it. I can't. I don't even make sense. Well, 700 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: that's why I like you better in this motherfucker. But 701 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, here's what makes it. Here's what makes this 702 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: so impossible. If you said your mount rushmore of basketball, 703 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:57,399 Speaker 1: of course, Jordan's of course magic. I think you gotta 704 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: throw in bird. But there's a lot of people who 705 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 1: out oft for that fourth spot, Kareem Russell, Kobe Lebron. 706 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: That's almost impossible. I get it. You know, Baba shop talk. 707 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: Everybody gonna have you know, you know, their own opinion. 708 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what I mean. Hey, 709 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: you know bulls down to the criteria which you're putting 710 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: them up for. You know, you're putting them up for lyrics, 711 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: so you're putting up It depends when I when I 712 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,959 Speaker 1: hear this list, you know, because I see the list 713 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: all the time, the fifty greatest. I don't pay none 714 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: of that ship no mind, because it's it's nowadays that 715 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: ship has done by mother fucking critics with no credentials. 716 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: You know, So when you're saying I don't even get 717 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 1: into that top five. That ship is too impossible because 718 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: it's so many incredible, great artists. I can't squeeze that 719 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,399 Speaker 1: in the five. I could barely do it with ten. 720 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: I'll entertain it, but again I entertain it as Baba 721 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: shop talk. You know, we're just shooting the ship and 722 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, just playing around is you know that's skin. 723 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, rock him. I'm gonna say, and in 724 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: no particular order, Kane, Rock, Kim Coogi Rap Caress one. Uh, 725 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: you just said my name first. Motherfucker's a classic. You know, 726 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: before I could even get into the jay Z Biggie 727 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: and into that era, I have to make sure I'm 728 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: not overlooking the era that. It pains me, dude, It 729 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: pains me because I look at your look at your comedian, 730 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: your comedian statue of what you just did. You name 731 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: knows again now on Olympus prior Murphy ed Red Fox, 732 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: Red Fox or Cosby, you know see, but now lyrically 733 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 1: say your lists again, Uh, jay Z, nas Jada, Kiss 734 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 1: Biggie and then eminem Rock. So now with your your 735 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: Olympus list, you go back to those that inspired you. 736 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: Now when you say your rap list. It's more like 737 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: more current than going back to the blueprints of the origin. 738 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, So I would look at 739 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: you listen. I'm not mad at your list, but that 740 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: list goes deeper because it's people that inspired them, and 741 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: without these people before them, it would I tell you this, 742 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: And this sounds like I'm being political because I'm playing 743 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: both sides of the fence. But if on that, no, no, 744 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: but then he's definitely in the top. I can't. I 745 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: can't never tell you who the like and what the like. 746 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: But I'm just telling you with certain things. It's just 747 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: like somebody saying they top comedians and not saying prior, 748 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 1: how would you look at them? You'll be like, what prior? Nigga? 749 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,280 Speaker 1: You high? That's how it is. When you say rapless 750 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: and you leave off certain people, you you ain't say 751 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: this person. It's the same. It's the same effect. But 752 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: you're talking from a comedic aspect of your greatest and 753 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,879 Speaker 1: you're talking about heavy hip hoppers and the purest from 754 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 1: their aspect. It's always gonna be a clash. I don't 755 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: I don't put people in front of who inspired them 756 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: to me, so it's almost like I know that the 757 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: lineage of Biggie and Hove is directly to him. I 758 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 1: can't whoever influenced him, that's who he gonna say, cast Mail, 759 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: But I know without him, ain't no Cane in Big period. 760 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: So I ain't gonna say Cane and Big before him. 761 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: That's just me. Yeah, Jay and Big before him. So 762 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't put people in front of the people that 763 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: I clearly know they were influenced by. I just don't 764 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,879 Speaker 1: do that because I mean, my history with hip hop 765 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,240 Speaker 1: goes so deep it's gonna go beyond the average listener. 766 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm going back to, like you said, Mellie Meo cast 767 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: And you know, Spoony G was probably one of the 768 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: first storytellers that nobody give him credit for. You know, 769 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: but without a Spooney G probably wouldn't get a slick rick. 770 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: I think Cas is probably the first. But but but 771 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: on record, spooning um, you know, um, I will say this, um. 772 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: When it comes to and they put propane take up 773 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: on the screen, Joe stop it, yea, when they come 774 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: to Jay, when they come to Jay and Big. You know, 775 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 1: it's like I grew up as a Graham, as a 776 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: cash fan, and that was really my teacher. Like you know, 777 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: the first time I heard him rhyme, you know, I 778 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: thought I was saying some hot shipping and I hear this, dude. 779 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, yeah, I'm everything. I'm doing it. 780 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: If I ripped my whole rhyme book up, skills, I 781 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: started my whole rap career over. I reaped my whole 782 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,800 Speaker 1: rhyme book up and said, I'd never be dope unless 783 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 1: I can do something on this level. I'm playing, you 784 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I started all over, and 785 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,399 Speaker 1: you know, I started reinventing myself and then I became big. 786 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 1: Daddy came so with me saying that you know, yeah, 787 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: taking um jay z out on the road with me 788 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 1: and all that their stuff and you know, you know, 789 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,720 Speaker 1: showing them this and that whatever, and you know whatever, 790 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 1: Big ya get like me and you know big and 791 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: Mr C was cool. Um I only you know, really 792 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 1: talked a big twice. But you know, based on what 793 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: he has said about me and what he learned from 794 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: me and all that there, I appreciate it. But at 795 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: the same time, it's like, you know, these brothers did 796 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: their thing, and just like with Kas what Cash was doing, 797 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 1: I took it to another level what I was doing. 798 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 1: J and Biggie took it to another level. So they 799 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: are allowed to be respected um as better than me, 800 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 1: even though they may have learned from me because they 801 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: took it to another level. That's that young grasshop of ships. 802 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 1: Did you name that? You're done and you're ready? One 803 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: thing I know. One thing I'll say about Big. His 804 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 1: transition was crazy. Were talking about battle rappers transitioning, and 805 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 1: he's one of the immortal to me because you well, 806 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 1: I've seen him round one way and just totally grow 807 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: and and when you know, when people say who's who, 808 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 1: we're Big, I'm gonna be biased. Of course I worked 809 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 1: with him, but I tell people all the time, name 810 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:54,799 Speaker 1: one flop like Big was bat in a thousand. He 811 00:48:54,840 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: went from doing an underground to transition in the commercial. 812 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: And now usually when people try to go commercial, they 813 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,240 Speaker 1: hit a snag. They're gonna hit a couple of flops 814 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: because they try and ship. But everything he tried, he perfected. 815 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: I've never seen not to cut you off this, but 816 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: I and to back backpack on that, I never seen 817 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 1: the motherfucker cover that many bases and still do it 818 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: at a at an excellent level, like, oh, you want 819 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: some backpack ship with premiere, I got that ship. You 820 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 1: want some ship for the bitches, I got that ship, 821 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 1: or you want some some of this bone thugs. I 822 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: got that ship. Like he did all of it well 823 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: in two albums, you know what I'm saying. So when 824 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: you listen to the progression from the first album to 825 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,879 Speaker 1: the second one, he even was like, yeah, I can't 826 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,359 Speaker 1: even rap about the same ship. How many motherfucker's We're like, oh, 827 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: it worked, you sold four million. I was about to 828 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: do this ship all over again. I'm gonna do a 829 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 1: premiere beat. I'm gonna do it da, I'm gonna do 830 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 1: all this ship over again. He was like, I can't 831 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: even rap about that same ship. No more. I ain't broke, 832 00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,120 Speaker 1: no more, I ain't in the hood. It it is 833 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 1: over look over And you gotta understand. You know, kan 834 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: say only meant Biggie twice, But out of those two times, 835 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 1: one of them you put him in pok on stage 836 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: in Madison Square Garden with you, and that alone, out 837 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,879 Speaker 1: of two times of meeting a cat and one time 838 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 1: that one fucking freestyle that they did that night, Still 839 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 1: it holds up to this day. I know I'm probably 840 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: gonna sunk this up because I haven't done it in 841 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: a no, no, because I haven't done it in a 842 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,919 Speaker 1: million years. Here you go, no, no, no, no, no. 843 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: I know mynnu stuck is haven't done it in a 844 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 1: million years. But I'm gonna try. Um. When I say 845 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 1: I'm not a rapper, but I rap and I don't 846 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 1: do a good BIGGI impression, but I remember I tried 847 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: to and I had wrote something where I said, uh, 848 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: biggie baby bit delivers cold like the shivers, took slick ship, 849 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: spit game is vicious, malicious. How I rolled through you 850 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,800 Speaker 1: like a cancer doc speak bleak, took a bunch of chances, 851 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 1: seemed to work slow, The keemo flushed to the bone. 852 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 1: Merrow life window that row fun several fuck beef. Make 853 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 1: peace with your priests. At least they could take up 854 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: out tomorrow, Papa spotor biggybe done. Drop your frank, keep 855 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: it real, keep it frank like Sinatra. When it comes 856 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: to gun play, unick is strange to us. Type for 857 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: the fight that are strained, the bust that's strange to us. Uh. 858 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,439 Speaker 1: We pack a punch like Mike like when he trained 859 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: with cuss to blaming us must be kid didn't like 860 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: Robin Givons. If you think you a man, it's just 861 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 1: taming us. No, that's good as fun. My god, damn, 862 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: I wish that was a bit. I'm not, but that 863 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: was dope. But I could. I could. That was the 864 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: stops and the theops bro Like, that was dope. So 865 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. And it took me, damn it, 866 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 1: two years to do that, right, you know what I'm saying. 867 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: Where's y'all getting the booth and boom boom and you 868 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: got it? It took me two years while I was like, okay, okay, 869 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: then look baby, bo just I got it. Yeah. Look, 870 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 1: as much as I love fast food, I know that 871 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 1: I can't eat it all the time, but can can 872 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: be consuming and annoying. So it's hard to motivate me 873 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 1: to do it, like really difficult to do that. But 874 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 1: now that I'm using Hello Fresh, cooking is no big 875 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 1: deal for me. I mean, it's still kind of a 876 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 1: big deal for me, but it's fast, it's easy, and 877 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 1: and all the recipes are right there and they're really delicious. 878 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 1: With Hello Fresh, you get fresh, pre measured ingredients and 879 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 1: mouth watering seasonal recipes delivered right to your door. 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It really makes my life a 900 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: lot easier. So go to Hello Fresh dot com slash 901 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: twelve peters and use code twelve peters for twelve free 902 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 1: meals including free shipping. That's Hello Fresh dot com slash 903 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: twelve peters, that's the number twelve and my last name 904 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,720 Speaker 1: Peters and use code twelve peters for twelve free meals 905 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,439 Speaker 1: including free shipping. Hello Fresh America's number one meal. Kid, 906 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: you got cats like Prodigy who who always wrapped about 907 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 1: the same ship. Listen some of the best two bar 908 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: intros I've ever heard in my life. Every time that 909 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 1: motherfucker started rapping, you remember them first two bars at 910 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: damn near everything. I'll put my time in between the 911 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,879 Speaker 1: papers line it's a wall going on outside. No, man, 912 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,760 Speaker 1: that's safe from beat. Yeah, like when he started rapping, 913 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 1: he pulled you in first two Yes, what but he 914 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,240 Speaker 1: stayed angry. Yeah, like from from the from from the first, 915 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 1: from the second album onwards. That just means he see 916 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:26,319 Speaker 1: some queens. No, his success wasn't high enough. Yeah, I 917 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,240 Speaker 1: noticed all the rappers that start out hardcore start on hardcore, 918 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 1: but when they hit that fifty tax bracket, the niggas 919 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,799 Speaker 1: learned to smile, Like, who's giving us an example? I 920 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 1: mean Snoop started Gangster and then did records with Katie Perry. Understand, 921 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:47,240 Speaker 1: understand there will be no Snoops. Ice Cube was always 922 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: Snoop was always caog. Ever yeah, but I'm just saying yea. 923 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: And then we found out, you know, niggas know how 924 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 1: profitable it is to smile. Yes, we learned that from 925 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 1: Bill Kaz. That's how he'd be clubbing, right. Yeah. That's 926 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,319 Speaker 1: the craziest thing though, with that with ice Cube, man, 927 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 1: because I mean it's like the way we knew ice Cube, 928 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:15,439 Speaker 1: you know, as you know gangster rapper lyrical and then 929 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 1: like the way the kids know him today as dude 930 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,439 Speaker 1: didn't make movies about children, right where are they now? 931 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 1: And ship? You know what I'm saying. I mean, this 932 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 1: was the same dude who wants to made a song 933 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: called burn Hollywood Burn. We all grow well when then 934 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 1: pockets grow like, but I look at it this way 935 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,959 Speaker 1: when I when I go back to paying it took 936 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 1: his Cube in my top five. But to go from 937 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:43,280 Speaker 1: to go from to go from writing raps to writing 938 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 1: scripts to fucking like elevating yourself, And it's all from 939 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 1: his pen game. So he wrote, all right, but that 940 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 1: ain't got nothing to do with rap though it's a 941 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 1: different beast. But we still talked about he was writing 942 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 1: for half of these motherfucker's Like, Nah, you gotta give 943 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,800 Speaker 1: him this problems, No Vassiline American. You don't even appreciate 944 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 1: America's most wanted because of where he was from. But 945 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 1: you appreciate Public Enemy and Chuck I. Then you gotta 946 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,479 Speaker 1: go back and listen. That was produced by the whole 947 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 1: bomb squad. I could date can pass this heat. I 948 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 1: don't know about your motherfucker's, but if I ever make 949 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 1: another album, I'm bringing it straight to Arias for him 950 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 1: to critique. He gonna get you the real. Yeah, you're 951 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to win just because you're from where I'm from. 952 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,879 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. No, no, no, I don't 953 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,959 Speaker 1: mean it like that. I mean no, no, no, no, 954 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 1: I don't mean it literally. I mean figuratively. I know 955 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,239 Speaker 1: he's gonna bring the Brooklyn was whack. You wouldn't say 956 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 1: it because he from Brooklyn. From Brooklyn, Uh, I mean, 957 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,320 Speaker 1: I ain't ever everybody I know from Brooklyn was dope. 958 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 1: I never heard nobody that somebody said was all right, 959 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,080 Speaker 1: you did. No, they ain't from Brooklyn, but come on, 960 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,319 Speaker 1: man from Brooklyn, from Connecticut to come from Brooklyn because 961 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 1: of Brooklyn's where I'm from. Yeah there, and when the 962 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,840 Speaker 1: school of everything ain't gonna be perfect, you know you're 963 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 1: gonna have some ducks like I can't believe you're not. 964 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 1: Like he has any other song than that one night 965 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 1: CHECKA Straight from the Sewer. Yeah, none of that was 966 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 1: a hit. Man Brooklyn. He's from Manhattan and North New Jersey. 967 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,080 Speaker 1: I thought he was from Brooklyn. Maybe that's where maybe 968 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: that's where the connect right. Yeah, So we talked top 969 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 1: five and I always like to do this, give me 970 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,919 Speaker 1: a nigger that it never be in your top five, 971 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 1: that would never be ever wise ludicrous? Uh what none 972 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: of my top five? But I Luda Chriss is one 973 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 1: of the only Southern m season where I go. He 974 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 1: can wrap, uh, the whole South. I'm just waiting. So 975 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 1: you are just New York? Why is nigger? I just 976 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 1: where is the t I can't I a little bit. 977 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 1: Ross can't wrap. No, Rick Ross cannot wrap. He seems 978 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 1: like he's trying to be bigger. Y'all. Wow, because you 979 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,840 Speaker 1: heard that dark can't help that. I heard a Ross 980 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 1: freestyle to throw the fucking I want to throw my 981 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:39,640 Speaker 1: radio in my car. Motherfucker fed if e D. I'm like, 982 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 1: you just spelt fed, you fucking ignoramus. I couldn't. But 983 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 1: where is he from? Florida? He from Florida. What I said, 984 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 1: I'll take Luke? I like, Luke, You ain't what you'll take? Luke? Over? What? Over? 985 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 1: Rick Ross? We're talking about rap, russy man, I'm talking 986 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 1: about give me a loop bar. There's not one pop 987 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 1: that pussy baby pop, that pussy baby pop pop pop, 988 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 1: the pussy baby pop, that pussy baby Scott, that's your Luke. 989 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 1: But dude, let me tell you something. If and you 990 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:21,880 Speaker 1: heard my you heard my my top five slash six 991 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: hip hop. Let me finish the list and put it 992 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 1: at ten. So I said, eminem rock him five six, 993 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 1: Big pun Big l h d m X. That's my 994 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 1: top ten. There's no no disrespect to the South or 995 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 1: the West. There's not one person that's better than any 996 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 1: of those guys. Okay, that's fair, that's true. That's true. 997 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 1: You think he's better than those top ten? Nope? Is 998 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 1: he better than he said? Not? Jay Z, Biggie H 999 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 1: Jada Kiss rock him, big rock him um eminem uh 1000 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 1: big pun big l DMX. So you saying name somebody 1001 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 1: that's better to something from somebody better better than Jada. Kiss, 1002 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:16,320 Speaker 1: you're crazy. You're crazy. Whole podcast somebody you wild? Jada 1003 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 1: kills crazy. The Kiss will tell you scar faces being humble. 1004 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 1: No FaceTime is nigger right now, Kiss, you're a crazy face. 1005 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 1: You got a hell of a tent. It's hard to 1006 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 1: find somebody to to not to be able to funk 1007 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,919 Speaker 1: with big hole Pun big Hel. You got a mean tin. 1008 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,440 Speaker 1: But it's somebody out there. That's a fact. I just 1009 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 1: didn't know you didn't. I just did. You didn't believe 1010 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 1: what you said when you said I did. I did. 1011 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 1: I did. Scar Face up there, bro, I'll give him 1012 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:58,439 Speaker 1: eleven in, but not better than Jada. I like Face 1013 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 1: as a person, but I couldn't tell you one song. Wow, y'all, Yo, 1014 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 1: y'all are district fucking spectful on a Friday sun, y'all 1015 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 1: are disrespectful. I remember the album Jesus No, it's the 1016 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:19,360 Speaker 1: disrespect for me. Listen, I give you that. I give 1017 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 1: you that. Let me let me be clear, let me 1018 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 1: be clear. I'm definitely giving notice heavy hitters in every region. 1019 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 1: I never definitely, but as far as that ten, none 1020 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 1: of these dudes replace anybody in them. Ted, give me 1021 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,320 Speaker 1: at least four from the West coast or from the south. 1022 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Snoop pot Uh from West coast. I'm going West coast, 1023 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 1: Snoop pop. I don't know nobody alcoholics. I love the alcoholics. 1024 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 1: It's from the South t I jeez na, Wayne, Nah, 1025 01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:02,200 Speaker 1: it's a struggle. It's a struggle for me. I'll turn 1026 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 1: all this ship over ice Cube. I can't do Cube, man, 1027 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 1: I just can't do cute as a comedian and as 1028 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 1: a person in the movie business. What also turns me 1029 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:20,640 Speaker 1: off about ice Cube business? Acting wise? He's so he's 1030 01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,920 Speaker 1: the same motherfucker. And but I have a I have 1031 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 1: a bad taste in my mouth forque what they got 1032 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 1: to do with what they're gonna do with the bars. 1033 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, see, no, no, no, Kane sat here 1034 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,680 Speaker 1: and gave you some slick ass talk from ce Low 1035 01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,840 Speaker 1: and you can't get past the way the nigga is shaped. 1036 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:44,680 Speaker 1: Let's keep it a thing. I can't. Some guys like 1037 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 1: scooped ice cream, and some guys don't like saucer look 1038 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,920 Speaker 1: look at it. Look I can't do that. I can't 1039 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 1: do that. You act like niggas from New York never 1040 01:02:56,120 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 1: did no corny ship. Okay, listen this fat niggas New York. 1041 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 1: Jada Kiss had on the shiney suit. But that was 1042 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 1: the Yeah, he was trying to y'all. Always y'all, always 1043 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,080 Speaker 1: got a lot of wow ship to try to get 1044 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 1: out that ghetto. Of course, hey, so you so so 1045 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:20,439 Speaker 1: so the same the same goal outfit that Celo showed 1046 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,479 Speaker 1: up with the Grammys. I've seen Cannabis with the same ship, 1047 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 1: but it was silver. You ain't say nothing about that, 1048 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,560 Speaker 1: but I have had him out here with that man's 1049 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:33,960 Speaker 1: bars is immaculated. Cannabis is immaculate. Oh god, his word, 1050 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 1: players immaculates. This was fun. This was fun. This was funny. 1051 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 1: Are he he ain't moving off his soapbox. I get it, 1052 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 1: I get it, I get you proud, I get it, 1053 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,760 Speaker 1: I love it. I get it. But you're right, it's 1054 01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 1: hard to give you anybody from any area that's with 1055 01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:58,959 Speaker 1: that tips. Dude, I showered with tims on, I man 1056 01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:05,880 Speaker 1: at it. That's so they got a car hard towel. Listen, 1057 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 1: a New York Nick fucking bathroom. I get it. I'll 1058 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:14,280 Speaker 1: give it to you shower curtain. This might go down 1059 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,600 Speaker 1: as one of the greatest episodes of culturally canceled. Can 1060 01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 1: I give out my podcast so fucking Loot? And make 1061 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,080 Speaker 1: sure y'ards subscribe to my podcast spears at Steinberg. Did 1062 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,600 Speaker 1: you in the Jerk? Uh's available on all streaming platforms 1063 01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:28,480 Speaker 1: or hit me up in my Instagram and my d 1064 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,520 Speaker 1: M s and I personally send you the links. Man, 1065 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,560 Speaker 1: make sure you check out my podcast as well. Did 1066 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 1: you did I ever tell you the one about Big 1067 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,640 Speaker 1: Daddy Kane? And make sure you know you have one. 1068 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,440 Speaker 1: I gotta be on man. Make sure you check out 1069 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 1: my podcast, It's Hip Hop Confessions. You can follow me 1070 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 1: on everything at Skills v A. I don't got none 1071 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,959 Speaker 1: of that ship? Yeah you do? You got Lord fines 1072 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:52,840 Speaker 1: d I t C. Man, go to my website. Uh, 1073 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:57,840 Speaker 1: Lord Finesse d I TC dot com and uh, I'm 1074 01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm Saturday Runch every Saturda on Twitch. Lord f D 1075 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 1: I t C. Y'all to name some my podcast? Uh? 1076 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 1: Check out my presidential Let your I do you know 1077 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 1: y'all win extra with the ship? Hey, next, you're the 1078 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,960 Speaker 1: only guy that's been a second guest guest twice on 1079 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 1: this Yeah, because the first time I was on, I 1080 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,240 Speaker 1: wasn't really on. I was like a fucking bystander. I 1081 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:24,520 Speaker 1: mean that was you just started this right, Yeah? What 1082 01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,120 Speaker 1: do we? How many episodes do you? But we now? 1083 01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 1: Just just for the record, not because Ari's my brother 1084 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 1: in comedy, but I I tend to agree with everything 1085 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 1: he fucking said there. Yeah, because I'm very East Coast minded. 1086 01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 1: I was. I was upset when cats are coming in 1087 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,400 Speaker 1: from Boston that for a minute, I was like, well, 1088 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,680 Speaker 1: fuck you from Boston. I'm gonna hear um. Yeah. So 1089 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 1: I'm very East Coast centric when it comes to that too, 1090 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 1: and skills are probably the only Southern m C. I'll 1091 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 1: give any credit to you from the South. I'm from Virginia. Okay, 1092 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,320 Speaker 1: I thought you was East Coast. I am missed on 1093 01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:02,920 Speaker 1: the East coast. Damn. Yo, he is a New York 1094 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:08,320 Speaker 1: the East coast, you know, I sath from Virginia. Niga said, damn, 1095 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,080 Speaker 1: what thought this from He's cool? Yeah, but on the 1096 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 1: East coast in the South. Yeah, yeah, I get it, 1097 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:18,000 Speaker 1: but I ain't Florida like I was. Heavily East Coast influence. 1098 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 1: All right, I just say a lot of New York 1099 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:26,600 Speaker 1: fitted on I got you, I got you that Russell 1100 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,120 Speaker 1: will appreciate you for having as I don't want to 1101 01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 1: give a thank you to everybody. Lord Finesse, Mad Skills, 1102 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,400 Speaker 1: Very Spears, and Big Daddy came. This was our This 1103 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,280 Speaker 1: was the most fun fucking episode of Culturally Canceled I've 1104 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 1: done so far. Uh, tune in on I Heart Radio 1105 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,640 Speaker 1: and wherever you get your podcast. Thank you everybody and 1106 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 1: my man. Oh, let's give a shout out to for 1107 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 1: yelling out in the background from Nubius. 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