Speaker 1: Welcome to the Greatest, a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: All Right, welcome to another episode of the Greatest, hosted
Speaker 1: by myself c J. Toldanno and my wife Megan Gaily.
Speaker 1: How are you doing good. I'm just I'm in the
Speaker 1: midst of deciding if I want to pick a fight
Speaker 1: on Twitter, and so I have a draft saved and
Speaker 1: we'll get into that. Well we don't have, we will.
Speaker 1: I just feel like we're not able to talk about
Speaker 1: anything else. Well, I'm just saying why I was delayed
Speaker 1: answering because I was looking trying to I did one
Speaker 1: of those things, I like, fired a tiny shot and
Speaker 1: then I'd like to see what comes back at me.
Speaker 1: And then if I'm like, oh, that's fine, then I'll
Speaker 1: really I give a warning. That's how you know you're
Speaker 1: a pro. And you know you have stages of your
Speaker 1: beefs on Twitter. I mean I don't it's not even
Speaker 1: a beef. And we're also joined by our very good friend, Um,
Speaker 1: the person who I I love that you're on because
Speaker 1: like me, you're not just a sports guy. You're a
Speaker 1: comedy You're a pop culture and I don't know how
Speaker 1: whenever I talk, I'm like, what do I do for
Speaker 1: a living. Who understands this? I go, oh, Dave understands this.
Speaker 1: I understand everything, Dave. I got my fingers in everything.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having I feel honored to be here.
Speaker 1: Was this an episode number seven? I think eight. We
Speaker 1: have a couple, but we you were when we first started.
Speaker 1: I was like, we're definitely gonna have Dave on very early.
Speaker 1: You have to I set the tone. I set the
Speaker 1: bar high. Thank you, this is great. And yeah, CJ,
Speaker 1: You've had an interesting career. I've had an interesting career
Speaker 1: very much so. I think of you guys, says not
Speaker 1: one and the same, but like paths that sometimes cross.
Speaker 1: And anytime I started to anytime I started to be
Speaker 1: less successful, I'm like, I'm getting too close to see
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I'm gonna let me cue you up. First.
Speaker 1: Let me give you, people that are listening a little
Speaker 1: bit of background. You've written for the w w E.
Speaker 1: We became friends when you were writing for Bleacher Report.
Speaker 1: As a journalist, You've written for and worked for The Ringer.
Speaker 1: You hosted a wrestling podcast for The Ringer, Right, I did.
Speaker 1: It's called The mass Man Show. Okay, and then so yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean and then you've written for TV and what
Speaker 1: else tell us more. I started my journalism career advice
Speaker 1: that was I was doing stand up and then I
Speaker 1: started when it was cool. Yeah, it was absolutely. Now
Speaker 1: they've never paid well. I'm fine saying it now that
Speaker 1: they don't pay well. I didn't know if it was
Speaker 1: like a hey Day where like if you got in
Speaker 1: before the TV show they were paying well. But it
Speaker 1: seems like it was always just that Brooklyn building not paid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, we pay you with cocaine and rings. It's
Speaker 1: a vice on it cool. Yeah, and there's people in
Speaker 1: Brooklyn that are like, great, my parents pay my rent
Speaker 1: and I want cocaine and vice rings exactly. Then I
Speaker 1: went to grant Land, which was to itself r I
Speaker 1: P and but then you were doing stand up during
Speaker 1: all I was like what the hell? And then I
Speaker 1: quit because I was making too much money. Why am
Speaker 1: I gonna go work for free smoke? I was smoking
Speaker 1: back then. Oh yeah, you're a sports writer. I think
Speaker 1: a cigarette on you would look intellectual. It does. You've
Speaker 1: always been a well dressed man, is why we've had
Speaker 1: the topic that we picked today. Best dressed athletes are greatest? Sorry,
Speaker 1: get the branding right, otherwise you're getting cancel. Listen. It's
Speaker 1: it's in the title the greatest athlete dressers. But you
Speaker 1: you're a dapper guy. You've only had your mind on
Speaker 1: on fashion and it's important to you. Yeah. My mom
Speaker 1: got me a g Q subscription when I was like ten,
Speaker 1: and they're most of the photos of me as a kid.
Speaker 1: From like three until I was ten or twelve, I
Speaker 1: was in suits all the time. Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: love even going to school, and not to school every day,
Speaker 1: but like, we have a kindergarten graduation ceremony at my
Speaker 1: private school, and of course I wore a suit and
Speaker 1: I had the Dick Tracy hat. The hat, and there
Speaker 1: was also a watch that Yeah, but it wasn't like
Speaker 1: the actual toy because we weren't rich. It was they
Speaker 1: had the watch, but you unscrew the top and then
Speaker 1: it's lip bomb because I always need a lip bomb
Speaker 1: because I got dry lips, like l cool Jay, So
Speaker 1: I've always gotta keep a moist kind of out. Mine
Speaker 1: has a city at the ready, so smart just let
Speaker 1: mine get crusty, I can tell. But yeah, sometimes a
Speaker 1: smooch and I'm like, oh, you just want some chopstick,
Speaker 1: and you know I got something you can't find. I
Speaker 1: feel like you don't even want to kiss your white
Speaker 1: You're approaching me like this bitch. But her lips are
Speaker 1: going to help mine. It's a mutually beneficial marriage, which
Speaker 1: I like to see. That's great. Now, do you feel like,
Speaker 1: since having a son, you really love dressing him? Yes?
Speaker 1: And my ex wife and I have very different opinions
Speaker 1: on how we should dress. She is really big into
Speaker 1: not matching, so she'll wear like as an aesthetic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like leopard print with like stripes and some like checkered vans,
Speaker 1: and she just dresses ridiculously. That's fine for me. She
Speaker 1: think this is why I didn't work out. Oh God,
Speaker 1: Greatest Divorces in one. We have to do a lot
Speaker 1: of these episodes come around. We haven't even done like
Speaker 1: real ones. Yeah, like we haven't even done the Greatest
Speaker 1: World series. Like we're tiptoeing around in the fun ones
Speaker 1: before we get in and we want we're kind of
Speaker 1: picking the guests and then going we're kind of reverse
Speaker 1: engineering it, you know, We're like, we're not going to
Speaker 1: have you come on and be like greatest sports movie.
Speaker 1: I mean, like you would kill that, but we know
Speaker 1: you major league obviously, yeah, oh yeah, major league anyways,
Speaker 1: But so you had a subscription of g Q when
Speaker 1: you were attended like the way I because I also
Speaker 1: I didn't have subscription, but I was always buying those
Speaker 1: celebrity magazines and g Q because I would look at
Speaker 1: the pictures and then see what was in like trench
Speaker 1: coats or whatever, and then I would try and find
Speaker 1: the cheaper version of that, and I would build, you know,
Speaker 1: stuff like that or outfits that way. That was college
Speaker 1: for me. It was like, Okay, I can't afford this, this, this,
Speaker 1: and this, but I can go to Crossroads in the
Speaker 1: Mission in San Francisco and I can get something that
Speaker 1: kind of looks like that. Now I can afford nice stuff.
Speaker 1: Until I buy nice stuff, I kind of buy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, now I can afford I can afford nice stuff,
Speaker 1: so I just buy lots of trash. Yeah is my source?
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I think some people, you know, like I've
Speaker 1: spent thousands of dollars on wrestling, like vintage wrestling apparel,
Speaker 1: like old WWF hats and stuff, So I think that's
Speaker 1: more your vibe. It's like finding vintage and like you know,
Speaker 1: putting together a street where aesthetic through vintage done and
Speaker 1: are do you used to do that? You don't do
Speaker 1: that anymore? No, I still do. I mean I like
Speaker 1: to go from you know, something that's more casual and
Speaker 1: athletisury to you know, like today, I'm wearing a double
Speaker 1: breasted super what's the T shirt of? This is fran
Speaker 1: Lee Bowitz writer, Um, and this is women's T shirt
Speaker 1: because the Wing made T shirts for this on the
Speaker 1: Wing and it's like women's sizes only you know what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try. I have some men I have like
Speaker 1: a clueless shirt that's a men's shirt. Why is this for?
Speaker 1: But I like the way men's shirts fit me because
Speaker 1: I like to like tie and make like a little
Speaker 1: CROPTI right, yeah, yeah, see yeah, the men's and women's
Speaker 1: and Nike is actually doing a great job of not
Speaker 1: making stuff and saying this is for this gender or not,
Speaker 1: like clearly in a head to toe women's So yeah,
Speaker 1: you're in a you're in a matching out or matching
Speaker 1: sets swear roon, which I never would have even ventured
Speaker 1: to think about pre c J. Yeah, there's no way.
Speaker 1: What did you say you're addressed as this morning. Um.
Speaker 1: I sometimes I say this, I look like a choreographer,
Speaker 1: yeah kind of Um. Hair is too long to be
Speaker 1: a choreotea. Yeah, I would have it in like high pigtails.
Speaker 1: You said that you are addressed as if you were
Speaker 1: about to get surgery. Yes, yes, I do. I look
Speaker 1: like when because we see housewives on raw. Housewives go
Speaker 1: get surgery a lot or and sometimes it's not cosmetic.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like dramatic or ib f things. And but
Speaker 1: they always you can't wear makeup or like have your
Speaker 1: hair down, your nails or anything when you go to
Speaker 1: have surgery. So they're always trying to turn a look.
Speaker 1: So they'll be in like head to toe leopard jumpsuits
Speaker 1: going in to get a facelift, just because they're like,
Speaker 1: I need the people to know that I still went
Speaker 1: in with that ship. It also distracts from the fact
Speaker 1: that you're not wearing makeup and you look as bad
Speaker 1: as you're ever gonna look on televisions. And I had
Speaker 1: like the hood up this morning, sunglasses on. I mean
Speaker 1: I looked like the man from the outsiderer I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, you look like dark Man, remember dark the
Speaker 1: hat that Fedora Man. Yeah, every guy in Brooklyn in
Speaker 1: Williamsburg dresses like dark for sure, or like has it's
Speaker 1: either that or like the Peter McAllister beige trench coat
Speaker 1: or like overcoat. I was gonna say the Count of
Speaker 1: Monte Cristo, but sure, Yeah, I really love that. I
Speaker 1: love how CJ dresses like. I think it's so cool
Speaker 1: and fun and when I when my eyes just look
Speaker 1: around l A. It's some of the worst fashion I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. There's a lot of bad
Speaker 1: dressers here, absolutely, and I think this has never been
Speaker 1: a better time for men to start caring about how
Speaker 1: they dress. You know, when we were kids, it was
Speaker 1: like Abercrombie or American Eagle and that's it. Did you ever?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was told I saw an old high
Speaker 1: school friend over the holidays and she was like, you
Speaker 1: were such a preppy back. I hated you. It was
Speaker 1: like it's like it was like Tommy Hill figure Polo.
Speaker 1: I mean we would go to an outlet mall and
Speaker 1: buy our clothes for the year. Yeah. I just was
Speaker 1: wearing Polo dress and it was preppy, but I liked it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I I copped a pair of birken Stocks back in
Speaker 1: high school and that was weird, Like, what do you
Speaker 1: think I mean, that's that's high fashion. I was already
Speaker 1: way ahead of the Bell curve when I was sixteen.
Speaker 1: But I think when you say preppy, if you're wearing blazers,
Speaker 1: and I was wearing blazers too and reading movie magazines
Speaker 1: at Barnes and Noble, we were like bomb back level preppy,
Speaker 1: not like just Abercrumpie play. We're talking like classic American preppy,
Speaker 1: farmer preppy versus like intellectual East Coast prep, like proper prep.
Speaker 1: There's a their drastic difference. I guess, yeah, I was
Speaker 1: Indiana preppy, which they would be like trash, which is yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the same, the same as it was in
Speaker 1: my hometown, which is in Central California, which was far
Speaker 1: me and agricultural use, which is near friends now. So
Speaker 1: it was all like, you know, kind of costco Kirkland
Speaker 1: signature polo shirts are. If you were lucky, you go
Speaker 1: to Modesto and you get Abercrombie. Wow, we had an Abercrombie.
Speaker 1: Had a friend who worked at Abercrombie, one of my
Speaker 1: best friends. God, you got the hook up. I don't
Speaker 1: think I got the hook up because she was everyone
Speaker 1: I knew who worked at Abercrombie, but her was like
Speaker 1: a thief. Oh yeah, of course. Yeah, you still a
Speaker 1: girl who managed one and all she did was steel
Speaker 1: and then like sella. But my friend Abby was like
Speaker 1: by the book she was. She she was a corporate trill.
Speaker 1: You know. You know what now all of us are
Speaker 1: living in Hollywood, right, guys. Yeah, I worked at Hollister.
Speaker 1: I also worked at a Hollister for like three months. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's always a short stint. Where did you work there? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It smells like garbage, and I'll tell you my story.
Speaker 1: But how how did you fall into a job at all?
Speaker 1: I knew a dude who was a manager. Yeah, that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I went to What happened with me was my buddy. Actually,
Speaker 1: he just like this white farm type kid, and he
Speaker 1: went into He was like, hell, I'm going on a
Speaker 1: group interview. I'm like cool, can I come? And he
Speaker 1: was like yeah sure. And I went there trying to
Speaker 1: be like a guy, trying to make everyone laugh, and
Speaker 1: I ended up getting the job out of the people
Speaker 1: actually interviewing, because that's what Hollister needs arm well, a
Speaker 1: funny Filipino team. Otherwise, just like completely stupid, like Philly
Speaker 1: white guy. I was like, that was like a diversity hire,
Speaker 1: like this Hollister definitely needs some color. But then they
Speaker 1: made me work in the back room and and then
Speaker 1: during my lunch break on my first shift, I never
Speaker 1: came back. It's cool the TV writer's rooms worked the
Speaker 1: same way. Yeah, I never the way I felt then.
Speaker 1: I didn't know I'd be feeling it in a career.
Speaker 1: I thought I was really made for um. Thirty three
Speaker 1: years later, I say this to c J a lot
Speaker 1: because he tries to help me sort of like push
Speaker 1: the envelope with my clothing, and I'm like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: you gotta understand I'm ade like now middle aged white
Speaker 1: woman and you are like a man of color. There's
Speaker 1: just different things that you can pull off that. Like
Speaker 1: sometimes he'll try and address me and it's like I
Speaker 1: look like a YouTube character. I look like someone making
Speaker 1: fun of someone trying to be young I And I
Speaker 1: guess that sort of like leads into the topic do
Speaker 1: you guys feel like you've got like a little bit
Speaker 1: more leeway being like, yeah, I'm a black man, I
Speaker 1: got a little more sack people? What do you Rosparo
Speaker 1: over here? Good God, what would I say instead of
Speaker 1: you guys, those of you who are of a different
Speaker 1: race than I, do you feel like you've got like
Speaker 1: a little bit more absolutely answered, you just like letting
Speaker 1: me dig a deep hole. So serious answer to your
Speaker 1: question is yes, absolutely. And this was the point I
Speaker 1: when it's to make about athletes, is it because they
Speaker 1: are one in impeccable shape and can wear everything well
Speaker 1: within reason? Because with basketball players they're tall the models
Speaker 1: basically yes. And also when you when you were you
Speaker 1: know of a of a minority ethnic group, or or
Speaker 1: you know, any sort of minority group, you are more
Speaker 1: apt to feel weird. You were more more comfortable feeling weird,
Speaker 1: and you don't feel as much pressure to conform to
Speaker 1: certain aesthetic preferences of the main stream. So I don't
Speaker 1: feel quite as bad about dressing in a different way
Speaker 1: than some people would who you know are are Caucasian
Speaker 1: or or whatever, because I like it. I like to
Speaker 1: stand out. I'm happy you're standing out, and I'm I've
Speaker 1: always stood out no matter what, just because of who
Speaker 1: I am. Yeah, when did you realize that that you
Speaker 1: were black? It took a while actually because my dad,
Speaker 1: my dad was white, so it was. I lived in
Speaker 1: a white world, so it took me a while to
Speaker 1: figure out, Oh, I can get away with certain things,
Speaker 1: or I'm a part of this and and maybe I
Speaker 1: should learn more about Tupac and maybe I should stop
Speaker 1: listening to the replacements as much. Uh. Yeah, it took
Speaker 1: a while for me to realize that it was okay
Speaker 1: to dress differently because I wanted to fit in. When
Speaker 1: you're in high school, you want to fit in. So
Speaker 1: I was That's why people thought I was up prep
Speaker 1: and I was because I was wearing Abercrombie because I
Speaker 1: wanted to fit in. I wanted to play baseball and
Speaker 1: be cool and not feel awkward. Did I nail being
Speaker 1: not awkward? Of course? That's what's great, is like inherently
Speaker 1: you're still going to have like but you have a
Speaker 1: little fashion sense. Yeah, that's exactly why I want to
Speaker 1: undercent like exactly feel that way. You're like, oh, you
Speaker 1: try to fit in a little bit, and you're like
Speaker 1: that's boring or that like what is the fun? Even
Speaker 1: if you try, Even if you try, it's never going
Speaker 1: to be enough. And I think that is what a
Speaker 1: lot of people of color experience in this country is
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my best, and I'm gonna try and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fit in. I'll be I'll be Barack Obama,
Speaker 1: and I'll do it all the right way. But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, even if I become president
Speaker 1: of the United States of America, I'm still not going
Speaker 1: to fit in. It's still going to be mad at
Speaker 1: my tan suit. Yeah, so why that just beat your
Speaker 1: and that's and God bless our athletes are are are
Speaker 1: minority athletes who are a dressing better than they ever
Speaker 1: have in the entire history of sports. Well, okay, so
Speaker 1: let's get into it. Then we'll just start off here
Speaker 1: today's episode the Greatest Athlete dressers or the best dressed
Speaker 1: athletes of all time. Um, I feel like this is
Speaker 1: the one that is a long time coming. This is
Speaker 1: primary Like whenever people ask me about sports and why
Speaker 1: I love it so much, it's crazy, but it is
Speaker 1: a large part of it is because of, like you said,
Speaker 1: the way these players express themselves off the court, off
Speaker 1: the field, and to me, it's such a big part
Speaker 1: of how I'm even able to follow it. Like you know,
Speaker 1: these guys are superheroes. They play amazing on the field
Speaker 1: or the court, but I'm like, how do I differentiate
Speaker 1: these guys, you know, outside of that? How do I
Speaker 1: continue to follow them in the off season? And in
Speaker 1: fashion has been such a big part of that. So Dave,
Speaker 1: why don't you kick us off here with your your
Speaker 1: first pick. This is tough because on the one hand,
Speaker 1: it's fashion in sports have never been more connected than
Speaker 1: they are right now. But on the other hand, you
Speaker 1: don't want the recency bias of like, well, of course,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna pick you know, this famous person who's
Speaker 1: famous now. So I'm gonna go curveball and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say well to Clyde Frasier, Oh yes, who had a
Speaker 1: very downtown or uptown like Harlem kind of aesthetic to
Speaker 1: his dress. Lots of lots of suits and big coats,
Speaker 1: and he still dresses amazing MSG network when he calls
Speaker 1: Nicks games. It was a seventies vibe that was unfettered,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't trying super hard to fit in and
Speaker 1: be corporate. He was gonna be Walt Clyde Fraser back then.
Speaker 1: Was everyone dressing like that or I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think they were in su Yeah, that's what he
Speaker 1: was wearing, like plaid since I Russell wasn't like a
Speaker 1: snappy dresser and like playing like Brooks brother off the rack.
Speaker 1: There were there were obviously people with style in that period.
Speaker 1: Spencer Haywood I think had a little bit of style
Speaker 1: and stuff, but you know, it wasn't to the extreme
Speaker 1: that it is today, So people like Walt Fraser would
Speaker 1: stand out. Yeah, and I love that he's held onto
Speaker 1: that and people when people like see him now like,
Speaker 1: oh man, he dresses funny, I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: don't think that that's clownish. I think the clowney thing
Speaker 1: is when you're trying to do something to fit into
Speaker 1: the fashion world as opposed to dressing the way that
Speaker 1: is most comfortable for you. It has to look like
Speaker 1: it's effortless. There's a guy, God bless him in the
Speaker 1: NBA right now who I just feel like he is
Speaker 1: trying so hard every game and he just bricks every fit.
Speaker 1: Kevin love n You see that when you see like
Speaker 1: a string of pictures and it's all Kith and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you clearly visited Kith and now you like this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And they're like, I'll take all that, or can you
Speaker 1: guys send me your your your lot, your spring collection,
Speaker 1: and it's just like it's no effort none. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: are the dudes who really wake up every day think
Speaker 1: about what their fit is going to be, that go
Speaker 1: out that they they're they're shopping in every town. They're
Speaker 1: talking to the designers, local people, even you know, Lebron
Speaker 1: made a point of getting to know people in that business.
Speaker 1: So John Elliott, who does a lot of his stuff,
Speaker 1: he and Lebron became friends way before John Elliott was famous. Uh.
Speaker 1: Tom Brown who did the suits for the cat of
Speaker 1: that season when they all wore the same suits in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, that was a relationship that Lebron created with
Speaker 1: Tom Brown to be able to get those done. Kevin
Speaker 1: Love looks like I just I just need a truck
Speaker 1: full of like clean white Air Force ones and some
Speaker 1: sweatpants and like a big coat and I'm good And
Speaker 1: like that's not enough. Who are you? What are you
Speaker 1: trying to say about yourself? How are you expressing yourself
Speaker 1: through what you're wearing? Of the superstars in the NBA,
Speaker 1: so I guess I'm talking like all Star and above,
Speaker 1: how many of them do you think have personal stylists?
Speaker 1: That's tough you know, I I back when I was
Speaker 1: a Bleacher Report during All Star in l A. I
Speaker 1: was talking to James Harden about this, and James Harden
Speaker 1: picks his own clothes. Yeah, he's not like I need
Speaker 1: somebody to buy this doesn't seem like someone who likes
Speaker 1: a lot of help. In general. He's got it. He
Speaker 1: doesn't need an assist here on what he's gonna wear. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think the ones that you could tell
Speaker 1: which ones are like I'm doing this myself, Russ P,
Speaker 1: J Tucker, Hardened, Lebron obviously. I think somebody even like
Speaker 1: Jordan Clarkson probably does a lot of his shopping himself.
Speaker 1: Swaggy P did a lot of shops maybe well no,
Speaker 1: actually I don't know who has some like I almost
Speaker 1: think even a stylist aside Lebron probably Couz. Probably a
Speaker 1: lot of them them then have like a personal jeweler
Speaker 1: who they're saying this should be with, so like they're
Speaker 1: not doing everything head to toe Like accessories are hard.
Speaker 1: That's like, actually, when if I ever get styled for anything,
Speaker 1: that's I'm like, I can put stuff together, but like
Speaker 1: all of these finishing touches, that's like very very difficul
Speaker 1: accessories are the things that really do matter more than
Speaker 1: than you think. Um, I have a feeling and not
Speaker 1: knowing for sure, but I think a lot of these
Speaker 1: people probably have, you know, people coming and saying here's
Speaker 1: what this designer's spring summer book is, or this is
Speaker 1: this designers and then they go through it there like
Speaker 1: I like this happens like this. I think they have opinions.
Speaker 1: What a dream. Th'angel Russell is another guy who dressed
Speaker 1: the super well. But then there's some guys who I
Speaker 1: feel like are just like picking up a bal Main
Speaker 1: T shirt like the com de Garson converses with the
Speaker 1: hearts on him and it's like that's it. Like, no,
Speaker 1: you can't just wear a big graft and some ripped
Speaker 1: jeans and call it a day, like try It is
Speaker 1: interesting to that, Like I think the NBA lad this
Speaker 1: wave and then the NFL has caught up to it
Speaker 1: in some extent. But like when you think about the NFL,
Speaker 1: you know, you think of Cam first, really, but like
Speaker 1: a lot of the superstars in the NFL don't because
Speaker 1: a lot of the superstars in the NFL are quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: and so Cam is sort of the exception, but there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of like Drew Brees is not turning
Speaker 1: a look he's dressing probably really because he has money
Speaker 1: he can buy expensively, and Tom Brady does, but like
Speaker 1: he's also married to the most famous model in the world,
Speaker 1: so that's kind of like a Tom Brady is like
Speaker 1: a serial killer. I'm sorry he's There's not a lot
Speaker 1: of NFL players that I can think of that are
Speaker 1: like constantly dressing crazy that are superstars. Odell Beckham is
Speaker 1: really the best dressed guy in the NFL, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure we'll get to him later. But yeah, they're even Cam.
Speaker 1: I feel like Cam is trying too hard. Of course,
Speaker 1: I think he started off. He dresses like a Peewee's
Speaker 1: Playhouse character, but it's something that like we look forward to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fun, and he's not taking cues from anyone else. No,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of stores in l a that I
Speaker 1: feel like carry a lot of the stuff that he buys.
Speaker 1: But it's just like, man, what are you the Marlborough
Speaker 1: man got hit by a bunch of glitter. It's also
Speaker 1: interesting to see you as a friend like this um
Speaker 1: that I'm like, you're so hot, Like you're you're almost
Speaker 1: like fighting against being hot a joke. It is Joala,
Speaker 1: I'm Thomas who but but like WIT's not dressing as crazy.
Speaker 1: Win has a personal style, maybe one of the best
Speaker 1: styles in comedy. It fits him. What he's doing is
Speaker 1: a thing that he does and it's it's within. I
Speaker 1: feel bad we're talking about somebody people don't know. But
Speaker 1: he was on the podcast. Okay, Okay, good. So if
Speaker 1: you're a listener, you're a fan, you know. But it
Speaker 1: fits into what's fashion right now because there's you know,
Speaker 1: there's a heavy skateboarding influences, workwear influences in fashion right now.
Speaker 1: But it's still him and he's always been that guy,
Speaker 1: so it's not like he's following trends. Okay, so my
Speaker 1: first pick, I guess this is a bit of a riddle.
Speaker 1: I have two people on my list that have the
Speaker 1: same last name, but they are not related. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna not guess about the way Russell Westbrook and Brian Westbrook.
Speaker 1: Um so my first person is Phil David Beckham. Everyone
Speaker 1: on my list is hot, and that's kind of yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead, I want to hear your reason. Um, I
Speaker 1: think of David Beckham as like a fashion icon now
Speaker 1: and like soccer stars are sort of traditionally the hottest,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's because they're the most famous, but like
Speaker 1: they are just these international hot babe superstars. He's also
Speaker 1: married to a Spice girl. She has her own clothing line.
Speaker 1: He has done lots of partnerships with designers. He sits
Speaker 1: front row at New York Fashion Week, Paris Fashion Week.
Speaker 1: Like he is now transitioned from like I was a
Speaker 1: famous soccer player, I live in l A. And now
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of a hot, fashionable dad icon. And
Speaker 1: that's why I just you look at him. I mean
Speaker 1: he's modeled, like he is fashion well also being and
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, I remember just seeing him sort of
Speaker 1: starting to pop up in you know, in pop culture
Speaker 1: or just like I always thought it, like David said this,
Speaker 1: he's just hot, So what a great start. It makes
Speaker 1: it a lot easier to be a fashion guy if
Speaker 1: you're super hot. So like if he's wearing the newest,
Speaker 1: latest or hot like or unique outfit, I'm still just
Speaker 1: being like, damn, great abs and cheekbones, my man, where
Speaker 1: do I pick those up? You know? And he's also aged,
Speaker 1: but like still looks hot, but he's also I think
Speaker 1: his fashion has evolved, not in the way where you
Speaker 1: seeing a magazine when they're like dress for your twenties,
Speaker 1: dress when you're fifty, Like it's not that cut and dry.
Speaker 1: But I do think his fashion has evolved over time,
Speaker 1: and now you look at him and you're just like,
Speaker 1: you look like a movie star. Yeah. Well yeah he
Speaker 1: You know, he was actually one of the first soccer
Speaker 1: players to really transcend and be a fashion person, because before,
Speaker 1: especially in England, it was just like working class blokes,
Speaker 1: you know, eating fish and chips, smoking cigarettes at halftime. Uh.
Speaker 1: Then he comes along and is like, I can be continental,
Speaker 1: I can be European. I can go play in France,
Speaker 1: I can go play in Italy or in Spain. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, I can do all these things and be
Speaker 1: a be a celebrity. And so now the soccer guys
Speaker 1: are like the truly hottest athletes. Yeah it's great. You know,
Speaker 1: they got the abs, they they've got the great cheek bones.
Speaker 1: Everything looks Christiano Ronaldo sometimes I feel like he's too
Speaker 1: European to the point where it looks like he's just
Speaker 1: made of cocaine. But at the same time, like the
Speaker 1: guy when he really tries, he looks great well. And
Speaker 1: two things about Beckham. Two is that I feel like
Speaker 1: the tattoos, like that was kind of rebellious, but yet
Speaker 1: it still has an essence of elegance to him. Another
Speaker 1: thing too, that he does really well. I feel like
Speaker 1: is mixing athletic wear and like um luxury, so who
Speaker 1: we're like a track jacket under a blazer. And I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure maybe someone did it before him, but man,
Speaker 1: he was pulling that look off, which just sounds insane
Speaker 1: to me. He was one of the first dudes wearing
Speaker 1: like a truly expensive like cashmere coat sweat he is
Speaker 1: he is sort of like what Tom Brady it's trying
Speaker 1: to do Tom, but he doesn't have the soul of
Speaker 1: a fashionable person, right. And I also think Victoria Beckham
Speaker 1: is extremely fashionable. Her line is so beautiful, makes incredible
Speaker 1: things like they they're just as a duo, so pleasing
Speaker 1: to look at their kids I think are famous and
Speaker 1: models and in the fashion world, like he's almost fully
Speaker 1: just transitioned out of sports into just kind of the
Speaker 1: l a world. Let me just say, like, you don't
Speaker 1: have to be hot to be fashionable. Absolutely, you know
Speaker 1: who one of the one of the most fashionable people
Speaker 1: in Hollywood is Adam Pally. Adam Paley dresses super well.
Speaker 1: I can see I can see why you like that.
Speaker 1: He does not brick fits. He's a good yes, but
Speaker 1: he's but he's not like an athlete. I'm saying that
Speaker 1: you don't have to be in like immaculate shape. You
Speaker 1: can just be a regular person. Just know what suits you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a handsome man, but he's not David Beckham like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying to be on my list, Adam's
Speaker 1: gonna be Listen, he's on an athlete. What do you
Speaker 1: mean act? Have you seen those as cats? That is
Speaker 1: kind of like a sport, a comedy sport, you know,
Speaker 1: comedy sports. Greatest athletes with a comedy sports background. He
Speaker 1: didn't have to be hot to be on my list,
Speaker 1: but apparently you did. Well. I don't have any ugly people. Okay,
Speaker 1: you go. Or my next guy or my first pick
Speaker 1: is Dion Sanders. Wow. I just think he I mean,
Speaker 1: I love it. I mean people his draft night and
Speaker 1: just every time he every time a camera was on him,
Speaker 1: I thought it was some looks because I keep feeling okay.
Speaker 1: So look up Dion draft Night. It's kind of infamous.
Speaker 1: He add the Jerry curl he had. He wore full
Speaker 1: wind suit, and I know, like you know and Draft
Speaker 1: night pete players go, oh, I need to wear a
Speaker 1: unique suit or I need to wear the nicest suit ever.
Speaker 1: But he wore like ninety gold chains, giant sunglasses, wind break.
Speaker 1: I think he was wearing when these wind breaker suits.
Speaker 1: And I'm still seeking out I type in vintage Nike
Speaker 1: track suit on eBay almost every day, trying to find
Speaker 1: these suits. And I think, um, in addition to that
Speaker 1: sort of signature look, he has the pinstripe suit. Whenever
Speaker 1: I think of a guy who could pull off a
Speaker 1: pin stripe suit, I think Dion. I think he's still
Speaker 1: doing that. Um. And I just think that he was
Speaker 1: always taking opportunity or just realize the opportunity that what
Speaker 1: is this saying like look good, play good, And I
Speaker 1: just think he was always a guy that embodied that
Speaker 1: before a lot of players. Now you don't agree, no,
Speaker 1: I think sometimes like I have a look up right
Speaker 1: now that is a like a plaid tweed that I'm
Speaker 1: guessing he wore around Christmas. I think is a classic
Speaker 1: but also fun look that like he can pull off.
Speaker 1: But he also is then doing some really like this
Speaker 1: is a bad suit. Oh yeah, we're talking about classic.
Speaker 1: We're kind of a classic Dion though, Yeah, classic Dion,
Speaker 1: Primetime Dion. He was one of the Look at this
Speaker 1: top of this, you gotta go back to the nineties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think he was wearing like you would wear
Speaker 1: a blazer without a shirt underneath, and I see players
Speaker 1: trying that now hammerd did that. Like that was the
Speaker 1: thing that I think was the best about Dion is
Speaker 1: Dion was one of the first guys to bring hip
Speaker 1: hop into sports, like truly bring that kind of you know,
Speaker 1: b boy aesthetic to sports. Nobody was really doing that
Speaker 1: before he did on the level that he did. And
Speaker 1: to be such a huge star playing two sports at
Speaker 1: the same time like he was, he was incredibly influential.
Speaker 1: And look at this he's wearing. He's got this Versacey
Speaker 1: shirt on, Like, yeah, some of these looks I'm really into.
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm just having to realize about my
Speaker 1: self is that I really hate those nineties or early
Speaker 1: two thousand pinstripe suits like burn that well. I think
Speaker 1: though it was people looking at Dion and going I
Speaker 1: should do that, and it wasn't working for them. And
Speaker 1: again it was he wasn't working for my goodness, I
Speaker 1: think you're wrong. Well, I like a lot of the
Speaker 1: looks I just saw, like a leather like jump suit
Speaker 1: he had that was really cool, and I I almost
Speaker 1: like his look better when he was a player. When
Speaker 1: you're a commentator, so I'm talking commentator and that's is
Speaker 1: like garbage. He looks like an old man. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: not trying to step out anymore. Okay, I'm that's that's sorry,
Speaker 1: c J. Sorry, I try. I just don't like his commentation.
Speaker 1: Another thing too, I think a signature look of his
Speaker 1: is like the goal like a gold chain while playing
Speaker 1: the gold chain like dangling, very sexually attractive to that.
Speaker 1: Finding ways to to like still be fashionable mid game
Speaker 1: is like and now you got guys wearing watches. D
Speaker 1: On and Michael Irvin, Andre Rison, all those dudes from
Speaker 1: the nineties are more influential on wide receivers, cornerbacks and
Speaker 1: like today than I think people realize. Yeah, like they
Speaker 1: change the whole aesthetic of the sport. I say, more
Speaker 1: crop to jerseys, did it well, I that's we don't need.
Speaker 1: I don't need more zeke for other tummies. All right,
Speaker 1: well let's take a break, right and we'll be back
Speaker 1: with our guests Dave Shilling, and we are back with
Speaker 1: our next round. That first round a little controversial, c
Speaker 1: J and I almost got I don't think controversial. Hey,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it off the podcast. I want to
Speaker 1: get into it work now. Um No, we came to
Speaker 1: an understanding. That's what marriage is about. Marriage is about compromise.
Speaker 1: We likedon pre commentator and that's something that we came
Speaker 1: to as a couple. Okay, you worked it out on
Speaker 1: the air, which I think is great for the audience
Speaker 1: to learn about how marriages. Yeah. I've been to therapy
Speaker 1: in two weeks, so this is therapy, isn't it. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to read the reviews after this app what's
Speaker 1: wrong with her story of the podcast? Divorce him and
Speaker 1: marry me? Yeah? You know what, I do get some
Speaker 1: of those. I'm sure a lot of lucky guy. Actually,
Speaker 1: if you saw we had to put up with, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be a part of this. I have
Speaker 1: seen in your tweets where you like make fun of me,
Speaker 1: like for fun. Then guys are like, yeah, you should
Speaker 1: leave them, or like they're like, oh, this is my opportunity.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna really push for this, Like he's simping for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it because I watched I watched Curb two oud.
Speaker 1: Have you considered a financial slave? What does that mean? Uh?
Speaker 1: They don't ever get anything sexual from you. They just
Speaker 1: derive pleasure from giving you money. Yeah, that's a sugar daddy.
Speaker 1: But a sugar daddy sugar daddy implication is sexual. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is literally just I will then mow you or
Speaker 1: I'll send you a check. I just want to know
Speaker 1: that you're taking care of Okay, I mean I wish
Speaker 1: I had that kind of money to be well, no,
Speaker 1: you want a third person. He's talking about bringing in
Speaker 1: an external cold third. Yeah, I could be a part
Speaker 1: of the situation still, as long as you just keep
Speaker 1: your distance and don't pose in any photos on Instagram,
Speaker 1: don't mention him. Just like what about this podcast? Check
Speaker 1: back in a few years, just next week, say we're divorce.
Speaker 1: Nobody asked to know. No one's going to check the record.
Speaker 1: And then I'm just addressing like Dion Sanders on Draft
Speaker 1: Night that Okay, Dave, who is your next pick? I
Speaker 1: don't want to go too far back again. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with somebody contemporary because I do think that this
Speaker 1: is the best time for a men's fashion in a
Speaker 1: long time, especially in sports. So I'm gonna go Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 1: It's hard not to because he is he can dress
Speaker 1: up when he has to be conservative, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of classy Russell Westbrook. But when he goes and does
Speaker 1: something like wearing the photographer's vest, which is I still
Speaker 1: think one of the most iconic moments career fishing vest
Speaker 1: after God, But I didn't buy the exact thing, and
Speaker 1: I think that's why. You know, it's what do I
Speaker 1: take from it? Not only was that ridiculous look, it's
Speaker 1: an official photographer and everyone assumed he was clowning KD
Speaker 1: for taking photos as a hobby. That was such a weird,
Speaker 1: But that's what sports media does as they try to
Speaker 1: connect the dots too much and it's just embarrassing. But
Speaker 1: I love that stuff. Give me that sweet tea, baby,
Speaker 1: and rest is a little bit of like a fun
Speaker 1: trolly and you know, like that video that he post
Speaker 1: said the day Kadi left, like he does go after,
Speaker 1: especially Kadi because kd like he can't help himself. Katie
Speaker 1: is one of the worst fashion one of the worst
Speaker 1: dressers of all time in the NBA. It's so bad.
Speaker 1: It's him in Jordan's like neck and neck for worst fits.
Speaker 1: When we were like picking this one, I'm like, we're
Speaker 1: going to have to get into some of the worst. Absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: heaven love that history is rich to him. But Jordan,
Speaker 1: let's talk more about Russell because obviously he's one of
Speaker 1: the first things that comes to mind. But and we said,
Speaker 1: probably said some of those rules already. But yeah, what
Speaker 1: is it about russ It's not that it's crazy, it's
Speaker 1: that I don't like, these are looks I didn't know existed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's working on a different level of creativity, in a
Speaker 1: different level of comfort in himself. So that is what
Speaker 1: it is. Is he will he'll take that walk and
Speaker 1: all the photographers will take pictures of him, and he
Speaker 1: knows he's dressed like a fucking clown. But because he's
Speaker 1: got the sunglasses tilted just the right way, a most
Speaker 1: smirk on his face, It's like, damn, that guy is awesome.
Speaker 1: His beautiful, immaculate body. Uh, like just like when he'll
Speaker 1: show like abs, it's like I want to do that.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I can't. Yeah, I simply can't. Like he's
Speaker 1: so aware of himself and so comfortable in himself and
Speaker 1: has no concerns for whether people like or don't like
Speaker 1: what he's wearing. And when I look at Tom Brady again,
Speaker 1: one of the shittiest dressers in all of sports, he's
Speaker 1: got that look on his face like, I know, I'm
Speaker 1: wearing something very expensive right now, and you guys probably
Speaker 1: think it's pretty cool that I'm wearing a turtleneck. Can
Speaker 1: you believe it? Wearing a turtleneck? What a choice? That is?
Speaker 1: Like a funk off, Like Tom, you're hot, you don't
Speaker 1: need to like do. I mean? I think one of
Speaker 1: the worst fashion choices he ever made was that Make
Speaker 1: America Great Again hat? Yeah, of course, what the red
Speaker 1: doesn't look good on you at all? But the Russell
Speaker 1: Westbrook thing too, it's like him, his strut is so
Speaker 1: much part of the outfit. Yeah, it's the way he
Speaker 1: carries himself. I think he's the reason for why when
Speaker 1: TNT games happen or ESPN games, we cut to them
Speaker 1: walking into the arena because it all starts there. That
Speaker 1: the mood, just the way the dressing up for the
Speaker 1: game is such a big part of it. And Russ is, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Russ is the reason for league fit account, the league
Speaker 1: fits account scale hype and league fits would not exist
Speaker 1: without people like Russell West But I mean, now you've
Speaker 1: gotten to the point where the athletic has somebody to
Speaker 1: cover fashion. You know, the Sports Illustrated started doing the
Speaker 1: like fifty most Fashionable Athletes in America things. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's HQ sports. Has he always dressed this way? Like
Speaker 1: what was he doing this in college? No? No, I
Speaker 1: mean you can't like the perfect storm for the the athlete,
Speaker 1: the musician, the actor is good looks um, exquisite bodies
Speaker 1: and the access to and a lot of times they
Speaker 1: get stuff for free. People are begging you to where
Speaker 1: their ship. Yeah, but that's what it is. It's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, because I remember are We've had Josiah who
Speaker 1: played with I think he either played or was around
Speaker 1: when Westbrook was at U c. A. And Russ was
Speaker 1: a quiet kid and you know, he was just playing
Speaker 1: you know, college basketball. But then you got the NBA
Speaker 1: and money started coming in and he realized, oh, This
Speaker 1: is how I've always wanted to express myself. Hardens the
Speaker 1: same way. You know, Harden didn't know that he was
Speaker 1: going to have that crazy beard and like be an
Speaker 1: icon when he was playing in high school. He didn't
Speaker 1: have that crazy beard. No, he did not. It was
Speaker 1: like a regular dude and unlocked it truly unlocked something.
Speaker 1: That's the beauty of age and success. Like I feel
Speaker 1: happier dressing the way that I want to dress because
Speaker 1: I'm thirty five years old and well, I called myself
Speaker 1: in middle age. I just while I'm in Hollywood physically
Speaker 1: edit out. Can you believe? Yeah, I'm years old? Um? Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's a great point. It's like it's almost like the
Speaker 1: final chair or like peace in your in your game
Speaker 1: is fashion and how it's your character. Who am I
Speaker 1: on the court? Um, the same guy who dresses wild? Well,
Speaker 1: it also looks so cute when he's dressed like that
Speaker 1: and then he's with his like cute little kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like that's like such a fun Like I
Speaker 1: follow this account called Delfs of Disneyland, and it is
Speaker 1: like it's like fun to see a hot dad with
Speaker 1: their kids. I will say that the best accessory that
Speaker 1: I've ever gotten in my life is my cute as kid?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. How are you implementing your fashion
Speaker 1: sense on your kid? I do my best. I mean
Speaker 1: he lives with my ex wife, so we have to
Speaker 1: fight over like I'm gonna have him dressed like this,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna him dressed like this. But there are
Speaker 1: things that he has in his wardrobe where I can
Speaker 1: kind of like he has a really cool like jean
Speaker 1: jacket that he looks awesome, like some like fur on
Speaker 1: the top. But it's it's a process. It'll get to arm.
Speaker 1: I mean, he'll take a little bit from his mom
Speaker 1: and a little bit from you, and then he'll have
Speaker 1: his own true style. Yeah, he has to find himself.
Speaker 1: I can't force anything on him. He has to be
Speaker 1: exposed to everything and then develop preferences from there. I
Speaker 1: used to dress so similar to my mom. I mean
Speaker 1: when I was a child, she would dress us in
Speaker 1: the same clothes um and then obviously youngest and only girl,
Speaker 1: and then but even in like high school, it was
Speaker 1: almost interchangeable, just sort of like the palate and the
Speaker 1: structure and everything we liked. And now I don't think
Speaker 1: we dress similar at all, like, And some of that
Speaker 1: could be the fact that I haven't lived in Indiana
Speaker 1: in almost fifteen years, but some of it is just like, Oh,
Speaker 1: you set me down on this path of liking Pastel's
Speaker 1: and being willing to wear bright colors. But then I've
Speaker 1: just like kind of kept going and almost left her
Speaker 1: back in pastel Land. I think you made the right choice.
Speaker 1: She dresses, so I love how she dresses too. She
Speaker 1: actually wears a lot of the same clothes that my
Speaker 1: friends do. Like I'll see a friend, I'm like, my
Speaker 1: mom has that, and they're like, what the funk? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, but she's she She's in the Talbot's fashion
Speaker 1: show at the mall. You know, she dresses really well.
Speaker 1: But we just I thought we would always like the
Speaker 1: same things, and at some point in my twenties we
Speaker 1: branched off from each other. You've had different experiences. How
Speaker 1: you dress is also connected to who you are as
Speaker 1: a human being. And that's again why Russell Westbrook is
Speaker 1: a better dresser than Tom Brady, because he's expressing a
Speaker 1: need of creativity and Tom Brady is wearing fucking tom
Speaker 1: Ford because it's expensive and it sucks. That's why I
Speaker 1: you know what, I love sneakers and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and people are like, oh, did you get those new
Speaker 1: off whites or while, But I'm like, there's just a
Speaker 1: whole different reason why I'm in this, and it's not
Speaker 1: to get the most expensive things. It's like that the
Speaker 1: reason why I'm buying off eBay and not going in
Speaker 1: around two because I need to find something that it
Speaker 1: means something to me, not and it's never gonna mean
Speaker 1: that it's the most expensive thing. Yeah, I don't give
Speaker 1: a funk about the Balenciaga triple S sneaker. And when
Speaker 1: I see people wearing those, or like the Louis Vuitton sneakers,
Speaker 1: a big crazy ones, I'm like, you're only doing that
Speaker 1: because you can not because it matters to you that
Speaker 1: that is where I have a pair, which on the
Speaker 1: cement ones. The first ones, no, these were like probably
Speaker 1: a year or two and yeah, no I don't. I
Speaker 1: had the Moon the easy one Moon Rocks, and then
Speaker 1: I bought them right when I got the Bleach Report gig.
Speaker 1: And then I moved to New York and I hung
Speaker 1: out in Soho wearing them and I saw every little
Speaker 1: Asian teenager. Oh I'm not different. This is this means nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that is the lesson that you learn when you
Speaker 1: were just following the hype too much. The there's no
Speaker 1: there's no destination with the hype. If you buy pieces
Speaker 1: that you like because you like them. If you find
Speaker 1: designers like I have specific designers and companies that I
Speaker 1: like to buy clothes from. Know they fit and I'm,
Speaker 1: you know, gonna get them tailored as best I can,
Speaker 1: and I know that they're the stuff that they do
Speaker 1: every season is going to be stuff that I like.
Speaker 1: If it's my aesthetic, we're not worthy of having you
Speaker 1: here giving all of this knowledge to the Well, no,
Speaker 1: just pay me next time. You know what there is
Speaker 1: ah there. We did have a review where someone was
Speaker 1: very not very upset, which is said, I had a
Speaker 1: bias against the Patriots, so I can't wait for them
Speaker 1: to hear you. I also fucking hate the Patriots. That's
Speaker 1: the thing. Like the review was like the female host
Speaker 1: really hates the Patriots, but then everybody else it's like newsflash,
Speaker 1: the entire country, but New England fucking hates the Patriots.
Speaker 1: And you don't know that, then you need to take
Speaker 1: a flight to Cincinnati St. Louis talked to four people.
Speaker 1: We don't like the team, but you know you're getting
Speaker 1: mad the same reason why you know the Indianapolis thing. No,
Speaker 1: that's that's totally differ Oranges, c J. We are I'm
Speaker 1: punching up when you when you go to the Patriots,
Speaker 1: they have one everything they have been. I mean, this
Speaker 1: Astros thing is so crazy because it's like, dokay, all right,
Speaker 1: well that'll be another one. Okay, so my number two picks,
Speaker 1: I will present this riddle to you again. I have
Speaker 1: two people on my list with the same last name,
Speaker 1: but they are not related. Thank you. Yeah, okay. Adel
Speaker 1: is someone when there is like the SPS, you always
Speaker 1: are like, what is O'Dell gonna wear? He always looks great.
Speaker 1: He is experimenting with his hair, with his jewelry, with
Speaker 1: his tattoos, like everything that he is that is on
Speaker 1: his body or is a part of his body as
Speaker 1: a chance for him to make a fashionable statement. Friends
Speaker 1: with Anna Wintour goes to the met gallup like he
Speaker 1: has transcended sports. And I do like that. He is
Speaker 1: probably the most fashionable NFL player. Um, the person that
Speaker 1: you like think of And I do think it was
Speaker 1: beneficial for him fashion wise that he was in New
Speaker 1: York for the first part of his career and Cleveland
Speaker 1: is not really a fashion capital. No, but you know what,
Speaker 1: I like cutting Zeus's hair? Is it or Samson whatever?
Speaker 1: Putting him in Cleveland Now that I'm realizing, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: messed up. It's like the worst of rich people from Cleveland.
Speaker 1: They've got great taste. Yeah, my girlfriend's family is from
Speaker 1: Cleveland and they are totally not They do not dress well.
Speaker 1: But I had three sisters that were in my sotority.
Speaker 1: They were all from Cleveland, and they were like the
Speaker 1: first girls I ever knew that had razor phones. They
Speaker 1: dressed so in two thousand four, if you had a
Speaker 1: pink razor phone, it was like, yeah to Cleveland. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I cut you off. What were you saying? But he
Speaker 1: lived in New York. I think that probably I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that when you're when you're living there and the
Speaker 1: media and you always talk about other on you all
Speaker 1: the time, I think he probably rose to that occasion
Speaker 1: to be like, I'll give you a little something to
Speaker 1: look at. You know. Who I like in Cleveland though,
Speaker 1: is Baker? No? You know why, because that's who he is,
Speaker 1: I know, but it's just not good. It works on
Speaker 1: it works like weird Detective. Yeah, it's like it's it's
Speaker 1: home alone Dad co. But then with like a Chappelle
Speaker 1: character underneath. Yes, he reminds me of Um it feels
Speaker 1: like Shy a like Shy is a streetwear of God
Speaker 1: and he's dressing like, you know, an unemployed dad. And
Speaker 1: that's okay because that's what he core. It's like heavy,
Speaker 1: heavy normor. But sometimes with Baker, I'm like, is that
Speaker 1: on purpose? Yeah? Because then when you see him partying,
Speaker 1: he's almost wearing like vineyard vines. Yeah, like he kind
Speaker 1: it almost feels like it feels like he's trying to
Speaker 1: kind of live in both worlds a little bit. So
Speaker 1: I mean, I would imagine having Odell around makes all
Speaker 1: of them want to step up their game. Um, except
Speaker 1: for that actually that got fired. Yeah, one of my
Speaker 1: Alma mentions, and I think I want to I want
Speaker 1: to bring it up because I think hairstyle is a
Speaker 1: big part of, you know, figuring out other ways outside
Speaker 1: of clothes really kind of takes part in your fashion.
Speaker 1: His hairstyle is maybe one of the most iconic since
Speaker 1: like again, one of my picks Iver since corn Rows,
Speaker 1: like he created that hairstyle that every single kid up
Speaker 1: until like five, like CJ would be like, Oh, he's
Speaker 1: got the Odell. He's got the Odell. He's got that
Speaker 1: like every kid that they would like it. And it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, NFL players in the problem why NFL on
Speaker 1: social isn't as big as the n b A is
Speaker 1: because there weren't many highlights. He was a guy with highlights.
Speaker 1: He was one handed catch Odell. He had signatures to
Speaker 1: him that most NFL players um never had and and
Speaker 1: some of that I thought you were going to say.
Speaker 1: What people knock on the NFL is lack of identity
Speaker 1: because they have helmets on and and it's a much
Speaker 1: bigger team, and that's just like not the sport. Odell
Speaker 1: is someone that you like, definitely know his identity and
Speaker 1: you also see him and I feel like every person
Speaker 1: in or out of sports is like, that's at least
Speaker 1: a recognizable person to be at the met Gala, that's
Speaker 1: a big deal. My favorite Odell Beckham junior moment is
Speaker 1: still the met Gala where he was seated with Lena
Speaker 1: said he would never fuck me. I'm a pig. Well
Speaker 1: she made it seem like I have thoughts about this
Speaker 1: that I can't share on air, but she made it
Speaker 1: seem like he was so dismissive of her. Um, and
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, he doesn't care. It's not his job
Speaker 1: to care about you. People are dismissive to me. Every day.
Speaker 1: I walked in this room and people were like, why
Speaker 1: is he stop? Get out? Um. Yeah, but that's just
Speaker 1: so funny because she did position him as like almost godlike,
Speaker 1: like he is up here and I am down here,
Speaker 1: and that is because he has the swagger that most
Speaker 1: people lack. Try to carry yourself with some swagger and
Speaker 1: things will change. No, I love her. I was waiting
Speaker 1: to see I love girls. I'll tell you my thoughts
Speaker 1: about well, it'll be on the patreon um. But also, yeah,
Speaker 1: O'Dell's cleat game again a thing that hasn't really like
Speaker 1: translated to NFL from the NBA. He's managed to do that.
Speaker 1: He's got his own the ear ring. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: O'Dell is is an eye competent. It almost feels like
Speaker 1: not right to like pick him because it's so recent,
Speaker 1: but he's, like, I guess not that recently, has been
Speaker 1: doing it for almost what his consistency is what's most impressive,
Speaker 1: Like Dion was a great choice, but Megan, you made
Speaker 1: the right, the right, the right comment that Dion style
Speaker 1: has taken a massive dip since he started working for
Speaker 1: NFL Network because they need him to dress like a
Speaker 1: dad who lives in Springfield, Massachusetts, having worked at NFL Network,
Speaker 1: and like we literally all have worked at the NFL BEFO.
Speaker 1: We've all worked at the same place. There's like this
Speaker 1: hallway where no, it's not bad, there's a hole. So
Speaker 1: like there is there's wardrobe at the NFL network. It's
Speaker 1: TV network, and so when there is Pro Bowl, Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: they have to pack up all of the suits and
Speaker 1: send them too, and they like fly on a plane
Speaker 1: to Miami or wherever. And to walk down that hallway
Speaker 1: when there are like a hundred and fifty commentator suits
Speaker 1: is some and it's like actually fun to go through
Speaker 1: and be like, Okay, that's Dion's, that's Steve Mary, like
Speaker 1: you can try and pick what suit belongs with who,
Speaker 1: and then and then there's a woman's like locker room
Speaker 1: where we had our step and my I had like
Speaker 1: no stuff and I would go around and look at
Speaker 1: the other I was like, wow, she has like Louis
Speaker 1: Vuitton slides, like everyone just had the coolest stuff. And
Speaker 1: I was like, renting the runway, that's fine, there's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with that. I went to the Oscars one year
Speaker 1: and I got a rental text I look great. Oh,
Speaker 1: I mean I think we're in the runway. It's like
Speaker 1: truly changed at least how I spend my money because
Speaker 1: I'm the type of person where once I'm like photographed
Speaker 1: in something and it goes on Instagram in any way,
Speaker 1: I don't like to wear it again. Or I wear
Speaker 1: it again, but I don't want to be photographed in
Speaker 1: it again. And you and I'm not saying photographed on
Speaker 1: the red carpet. I'm talking about me doing bar shows
Speaker 1: with no people, but there is a photographer, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: why didn't anyone tell me to wear makeup that I'm
Speaker 1: talking about? Like those photos are everywhere and it's like
Speaker 1: then it just looks like I wear the same four
Speaker 1: outfits all the time, which I do because I just
Speaker 1: get comfortable. And then rent the Runway has helped me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do have a code. If you want to DM me,
Speaker 1: I'll give it to you. This I feel like this
Speaker 1: is a sponsorship waiting to happen. If you're listening Rents Runway.
Speaker 1: They're kind to me. Okay, they're good, excellent. I mean
Speaker 1: they mean gave me like one free spot. One. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I'll say it's being delivered, but it's not. No, it's oh,
Speaker 1: it actually comes pretty fast. Um, but it's great. I
Speaker 1: really do love it. I feel like we should take
Speaker 1: a break and then because my number one pick was
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, so we'll admit my first one and then
Speaker 1: we'll just come back with my second one and then
Speaker 1: close this thing out. All right, We'll be right back
Speaker 1: and we're back at David's secret. Tell me after the show.
Speaker 1: After the show, so I will say mine again. I
Speaker 1: maybe I misinterpreted, but it's almost to me it's like
Speaker 1: the importance of this guy. It would hurt me. I
Speaker 1: would regret not saying. But Alan Iverson, I think not
Speaker 1: the bet like not the best, but maybe the most
Speaker 1: important dresser in sports. He ran so everyone could run faster,
Speaker 1: almost like uh, if you guys don't remember his the
Speaker 1: way he dressed to games and around NBA functions, David
Speaker 1: Stern came up with a dress code that was clearly racist.
Speaker 1: Rest in peace. David Stern did a lot for the game,
Speaker 1: but this was one of the biggest mistakes. Um was
Speaker 1: him implementing a dress code that has since been changed.
Speaker 1: I don't know was it because of Adam Silver or
Speaker 1: everyone was just like, no, this is racist, but um,
Speaker 1: because the way Alan Irison dressed, which was baggy shirts, jerseys,
Speaker 1: chains hats, they implemented this dress code that have it
Speaker 1: up here right now was created on October seventeenth, two
Speaker 1: thousand five, and it read like this. No chains, pendants
Speaker 1: or medallion's weren't over closed, no sunglasses and buildings, no
Speaker 1: headgear of any kind, no jerseys unless approved by the team,
Speaker 1: and no headphones, which is I feel like that is
Speaker 1: the checklist of what you say every athlete going into
Speaker 1: a game now. I mean it also seems rude to
Speaker 1: headgear like the braces, Yeah, which you know who were
Speaker 1: wears braces a lot? Is Andre Drummond does he here?
Speaker 1: He had him most of the time I was in.
Speaker 1: When did Harden get his teeth fixed? I don't know, Well,
Speaker 1: can't you just get veneers? He probably got well, but
Speaker 1: I guess if you're an athlete that could be troublesome
Speaker 1: because they pop out. Um. Growing up in Indiana at
Speaker 1: the time that Allen Iverson was like at his peak,
Speaker 1: the way people talked about him was so racist, so horrific,
Speaker 1: and like I only know it kind of in the
Speaker 1: last few years, like I've developed such an appreciation for him,
Speaker 1: probably from like twenties on. And it was truly like
Speaker 1: we were being brainwashed against him because it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's selfish. Obviously the word thug was thrown around all
Speaker 1: the time. I think he's one of the people that
Speaker 1: made us realize that you cannot say that about people.
Speaker 1: It's so fucking racist and inappropriate. He he almost had
Speaker 1: to fight against the world just to be who he was.
Speaker 1: My mom I remember went to Philly, uh my, my,
Speaker 1: My mom and dad had like a yearly trip and
Speaker 1: whenever we went to a new today, I went, oh,
Speaker 1: I have to buy something, and I still have this
Speaker 1: kind of what to buy something of, Like, however, I
Speaker 1: know that city, and I bought a reversible Champion Allen
Speaker 1: Iverson jersey, and my mom kept going, are you sure
Speaker 1: you want this? Are you sure? Like she loved Jordan
Speaker 1: because Jordan was such a like, you know, corporate cog
Speaker 1: but like she she felt that when I was like,
Speaker 1: what this is insane? Why were all of her parents against?
Speaker 1: The answer? A little racist? I think it was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was racism. It was also you know, I think
Speaker 1: anytime somebody bucks the system, who plays outside of the rules,
Speaker 1: people are kind of like shocked. Madonna, it was a
Speaker 1: good example of someone who was over sexual sexual. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, wow, she's not doing what she's supposed to do.
Speaker 1: Alan Iverson did not do what he was supposed to do.
Speaker 1: He was himself, and I think he was pivot in
Speaker 1: the history of fashion in sports, not because he's such
Speaker 1: a great dresser, because as you pointed out, you know,
Speaker 1: he was just wearing baggy T shirts and baggy jeans
Speaker 1: and he looked like Nellie half the time, like whatever,
Speaker 1: who cares? Yeah, yeah, Nellie was biting Allen Iverson. But
Speaker 1: because he was himself. And then the NBA overreacted and
Speaker 1: created the dress code. NBA players had to start wearing suits,
Speaker 1: and oh suits, interesting, let's I guess I should learn
Speaker 1: about suits. If I'm gonna have to wear a suit,
Speaker 1: let me learn about it. And some people didn't figure
Speaker 1: it out, like Tim Duncan, but Eventually it was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I can make something out of this and work
Speaker 1: around the dress code and still be myself without offending anyone.
Speaker 1: And then you get the combination of Iverson's individuality the
Speaker 1: NBA's restrictive dress code forcing you to wear you know,
Speaker 1: tailoring and men's wear, and now you have what you
Speaker 1: have today. But it wouldn't exist without Alan Ivverson. And
Speaker 1: this is of a little bit of a walk. But
Speaker 1: I remember Irison, he was wearing Mitchell and Nest jerseys. Um,
Speaker 1: he was one of the guys who really really pushed
Speaker 1: that movement of other teams of you know, even though
Speaker 1: he's playing for the Sixers like other players players weren't
Speaker 1: other teams that were like, wait, what does he want
Speaker 1: to play for them? And it's just like no, these
Speaker 1: guys grew up loving sports, loving players and where. But
Speaker 1: this is a little bit of a walk. But then
Speaker 1: so Mitchell and Nest jerseys were so big and people
Speaker 1: I just learned how Rich Paul and Lebron met selling
Speaker 1: jerseys out of a trunk for a site that I
Speaker 1: would look up distant replays the name of the site.
Speaker 1: I remember as a kid looking up word to buy
Speaker 1: Mitchell and Nesters and those distant replays he was selling.
Speaker 1: He met Lebron met him as selling out of a trunk,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, wow, the clutch is now, Um, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, did it would he have been selling those
Speaker 1: jerseys to Lebron if Iverson wasn't wearing you know, or
Speaker 1: fabulous and all these guys were wearing those jerseys And
Speaker 1: it's just crazy to think where it all started. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and Iverson, yeah I got I got Tiary. I just
Speaker 1: thinking about it, and and now what I love now
Speaker 1: about Iverson is just how much he still loves the game,
Speaker 1: hugging everyone. He was so sad when Kobe died and
Speaker 1: they hated each other, and man, they went hard on
Speaker 1: each other, and he was still like that guy is
Speaker 1: my brother. I was talking about it last night. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, largely part of they never met each other
Speaker 1: in the finals again, like they were they were rivals
Speaker 1: for that. They were like the biggest arrivals during the
Speaker 1: time that they met in the playoffs. Um, but since
Speaker 1: then it was just like, we're clearly just the best
Speaker 1: in the game right now. And they were wearing each
Speaker 1: other's shoes while they were still playing and yeah, I
Speaker 1: just love Iverson just showing so much respect to Kobe,
Speaker 1: to other players in the game right now. I love
Speaker 1: I've been trying to make it a name of him
Speaker 1: just hugging everybody. Yeah, he's like the elder statesman of
Speaker 1: the NBA. Yeah, I will say we uh. There was
Speaker 1: a project I was working on where we tried to
Speaker 1: hire him and it was a very short shoot and
Speaker 1: he um needed requested a lot of money. I think
Speaker 1: he's doing great. I was like, good for you. There's
Speaker 1: other people and you're like, that's your right, Oh boy, okay,
Speaker 1: um all right, so you want my number one? And
Speaker 1: then it will say, okay, wow, I may be the
Speaker 1: only one picking a woman. Okay, correct, unless you pick
Speaker 1: the same person I picked, and then I had to
Speaker 1: pick another person. I'm no, we can have overlap because
Speaker 1: that means that that person probably is the greatest. My
Speaker 1: number one pick is Serena Williams. Wow, Okay, good choice.
Speaker 1: I think in the same way that iver sent I
Speaker 1: mean the way people have talked about Serena's body since
Speaker 1: she was a preteen, even up until now, and some
Speaker 1: of it positive, some of it. It's Tennis is a
Speaker 1: sport where like your body is really on display when
Speaker 1: you are a female tennis player, and she has kind
Speaker 1: of embraced that in the most beautiful, confident and also
Speaker 1: sexy way. I also think post motherhood, like her fashion is,
Speaker 1: she's really the first athlete I knew of that was
Speaker 1: like going with designers to make everything she's wearing that
Speaker 1: she's competing in, Like she goes to Nike and designs
Speaker 1: that stuff with them, then has her own line. Also
Speaker 1: huge into the fashion scene, very much a part of
Speaker 1: New York Fashion Week and all of all of that,
Speaker 1: and obviously has money and the beautiful shape that she has,
Speaker 1: Like I remember seeing her wedding dress and she took
Speaker 1: such an incredible risk with this cape that was all beated.
Speaker 1: Like she just does sort of whatever she wants, despite
Speaker 1: the fact that even at a young age people were
Speaker 1: telling her to stop doing that. Yeah, no, she's very chic,
Speaker 1: but she also can can work in the streetwear world
Speaker 1: and do stuff and like doing Off White collaboration are
Speaker 1: probably my only ones I really actually like, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a credible what she what she's accomplished, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's also to do that well, people are constantly taking
Speaker 1: a dump. I mean the friend open wouldn't let her
Speaker 1: wear a body suit that was help trying to help
Speaker 1: her not have blood clots that almost killed her during childbirth.
Speaker 1: Like she's still even the most decorated female athlete will
Speaker 1: possibly go down as the greatest athlete of all time,
Speaker 1: is still having to fight with people constantly to just live,
Speaker 1: to just exist in this world that seems like it
Speaker 1: is almost always trying to push her out even though
Speaker 1: she's the greatest that has ever done it. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: is crazy because we talked about like Irison, like maybe
Speaker 1: that was like a couple of years ago, you can't
Speaker 1: wear that, but Serena has clearly proven to let her
Speaker 1: do things, and people are still like finding reasons to
Speaker 1: say that, And their reason was like this is like
Speaker 1: her body. It turns us on. People were not going
Speaker 1: to be able to like gus. That's why I loved
Speaker 1: seeing her like in the Lemonade video, you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you you have an incredible body that every man in
Speaker 1: the world is like talking about. Celebrate it, and like
Speaker 1: you are standing next to Beyonce, also one of the
Speaker 1: most beautiful, like sexy women in the world, and you're
Speaker 1: both just being who you are and it's so hot,
Speaker 1: and Serena just has to constantly fight against people and
Speaker 1: it does it with such grace and kindness too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's I think swagger is a part of this too.
Speaker 1: It's power and it's it's confidence. But her impact in
Speaker 1: Iverson's impact are just as important as what they wear,
Speaker 1: like the fact that they wore what they wore or
Speaker 1: where what they wear is the statement itself. And I
Speaker 1: think that's why those two definitely belong as your number
Speaker 1: ones and why I picked my number one. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be controversial because I'm leaving awful lot of people
Speaker 1: know Lebron. There's there's tons of people who were great dressers.
Speaker 1: Lebron is one of the best. But I have to
Speaker 1: go with Megan Rapino. Okay, at one point I thought
Speaker 1: about doing the entire women's but she blew up during
Speaker 1: that World Cup starting to dye her hair pink. That became,
Speaker 1: you know, such an iconic fashion statement, the colored short hair.
Speaker 1: But then what she has been able to do as
Speaker 1: an LGBT, a lesbian woman, um mixing men's where you know,
Speaker 1: women's clothes, you know, having this androgeny that is probably
Speaker 1: uncomfortable for a lot of people also very sexy, but
Speaker 1: incredibly sexy. She can be you know, in the in
Speaker 1: the body issue of of ESPN the magazine, and and
Speaker 1: you know her and Sue Bird stepping out and stuff,
Speaker 1: and like how they've been able to become fashion icons.
Speaker 1: I think it is incredibly important. And we're gonna look
Speaker 1: back on that World Cup and her specifically her part
Speaker 1: in that as you know, a turning point I think,
Speaker 1: and how people perceive LGBT Americans. And she's just a
Speaker 1: fucking great dresser. She always looks cool, and she always
Speaker 1: has that swagger and she knows she's the best. She
Speaker 1: knows that she has power. And that is what's attractive
Speaker 1: to people when they look at someone who's wearing clothes,
Speaker 1: is they know they look good. They're comfortable looking good,
Speaker 1: and they have a certain gravitas that other people don't have.
Speaker 1: So great, you have expensive clothes, but what are you?
Speaker 1: How are you wearing it? It's so modern too, And
Speaker 1: I think sometimes we think of female athletes as like
Speaker 1: the hairs in a ponytail, and that's like they're just
Speaker 1: like not, they're like tom that there stead of get
Speaker 1: pushed into that tomboys staring exactly, and she is kind
Speaker 1: of flipping that of being like, I can be androgynous,
Speaker 1: but it's still so feminine and it's also very sexy
Speaker 1: in a way that I don't think we have seen
Speaker 1: as a culture maybe ever, not from an athlete, No,
Speaker 1: not from a female. I mean, Billy Jeane King didn't
Speaker 1: didn't step out as as a fashion plate, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The amazing thing is that Megan Rapino can be that
Speaker 1: and can be a media superstar and a fashion icon
Speaker 1: and be who she is, and there's a lot more
Speaker 1: of us celebrating it than being like, you look weird,
Speaker 1: Like we're like, hell yes, So yeah, her and Sue
Speaker 1: Berd like the photo shoots that they've been doing, and
Speaker 1: I was wanting I got to look back and see
Speaker 1: if Super was doing before they're dating. But like, clearly
Speaker 1: Sue Bird's fashion is like just taking another step um
Speaker 1: with them being together and even her shoe game, like
Speaker 1: Nike is releasing Super Kyrie's because of her her fashion.
Speaker 1: I think they're probably one of the top three sports
Speaker 1: power couples right now. Yeah, it would it would be
Speaker 1: hard to to claim that w NBA players were on
Speaker 1: league fits before this all happened, and now they're like, well,
Speaker 1: I guess we've got to start putting w NBA players
Speaker 1: on leak. Al right, well, uh, do you want to
Speaker 1: say any honorable mentions? I know you mentioned I think
Speaker 1: we all. Yeah, I didn't put Lebron on because I
Speaker 1: thought someone else would say him. Yeah, um, so sorry
Speaker 1: we left you. He's just gonna be on so many
Speaker 1: lists of the shorts are so cool and like created
Speaker 1: so many moments like that was like a bit forever. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had Agasy, Yeah, I had p J. Tucker, and
Speaker 1: I had kind of just like an up and comer shy.
Speaker 1: We mentioned, yeah, oh Kelly, you bray on that honorable
Speaker 1: mentions list. But we'll see what they end up doing.
Speaker 1: They haven't been doing it as long as russ Uh
Speaker 1: and James and all those other guys this winning. I
Speaker 1: think Kuzma will be fun to watch. I like the
Speaker 1: stuff he does. I love his hair. The one baseball
Speaker 1: player I will I will call out as Matt Camp
Speaker 1: everybody else that's like a clown just track. I just
Speaker 1: don't even think I really ever see that. I feel
Speaker 1: like I mostly see them in baseball uniforms because they
Speaker 1: do like the post games in them still, don't they Yeah,
Speaker 1: or just like a T shirt and sweatpants. Christian Yellow
Speaker 1: is trying really hard, but he just looks like Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: He just looks like he's expresses Man of the Year
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, there's definitely hockey players that do it
Speaker 1: and trying, but he looks um sort of like they
Speaker 1: are cooler than us. It's kind of the soccer thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you guys, you've got a lot going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some of the Russian dudes are trying, but there is
Speaker 1: there is that element of like Canadian ruggedness that feels
Speaker 1: kind of tacky. Still, Like p K Cuban is really trying,
Speaker 1: but every time he goes out he's wearing some sort
Speaker 1: of like large brimmed hat that I feel like should
Speaker 1: have like salsa in the top and chips around it.
Speaker 1: He's but he's trying good for The hats are tough.
Speaker 1: The hats are when someone is doing a hat, well,
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, p J Tucker, PJ Tucker always rocks
Speaker 1: the hat. Well. I mean that guy is if he
Speaker 1: was a bigger star, we'd be talking about him more.
Speaker 1: It's like the real heads than you know, he's my
Speaker 1: number one NBA crush. It's a good choice. A lot
Speaker 1: of women and men probably agree with you. Thank you, welcome.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Dave, where can people find you? I
Speaker 1: am at Dave Underscore shilling on Twitter, and uh, this
Speaker 1: will be where I announced this. I'm starting a sports
Speaker 1: interview podcast. I'm very excited about this. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: interviewing some of the biggest stars in sports and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I hope people tune in when when that
Speaker 1: comes out. But it's it's gonna be you know, top
Speaker 1: level people. This isn't like you know, it's gonna be incredible.
Speaker 1: I can't over sell how important this is gonna be.
Speaker 1: It's going to change my life and we'll probably change
Speaker 1: yours if you listen. Wow, definitely will I can't wait
Speaker 1: forthcoming forthcoming. Follow me on Twitter and you'll find out.
Speaker 1: Um and if you guys could rate interview it, that
Speaker 1: would be amazing. I If you review and you say
Speaker 1: something mean, I'll probably talk about it, because I do
Speaker 1: go through and read them all. If you say something nice,
Speaker 1: read the nice ones, I'll probably talk about it too.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we just really love to read things that
Speaker 1: are about us specifically. That's like really one of my thinks.
Speaker 1: Something that the three of us can all agree on
Speaker 1: a review, how to tweak it. I wouldn't. It wasn't
Speaker 1: because it's about me, because I want to make the
Speaker 1: product better for you guys. Nope, I just want to
Speaker 1: read positive negatives about me. Dave, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're truly not worthy of all of
Speaker 1: the information you brought to us. No problem. It was
Speaker 1: a pleasure. And I do feel like I overdressed. No,
Speaker 1: you didn't, but you know I do that a lot.
Speaker 1: I think you probably just woke up earlier than c
Speaker 1: J and I did six o'clock in the morning. Maybe. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you inspire us. You inspire us in so many different ways.
Speaker 1: All Right, thank you for listening. We'll see you guys
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