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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hans
Speaker 1: is coming to the City Build with Heroes and Bunker's
Speaker 1: and prime Time. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, Greg Rosval, What
Speaker 1: is up? Boys? Hey? Damn? Oh night one in the books.
Speaker 1: We're taping this around It's just before ten pm, and
Speaker 1: I was trying to remind myself not to like scream
Speaker 1: and yell like I usually do during the podcast because
Speaker 1: my sleeping children are are only about away. And then
Speaker 1: I started the show by going, oh, what is the
Speaker 1: what is the wall situation there? How thick of the
Speaker 1: walls or is it a real concern? Right now? It's
Speaker 1: a bit of a concern because I will not be
Speaker 1: a popular man um you know, with my wife if
Speaker 1: I wake up the kids that gets backed around. Maybe yeah,
Speaker 1: the lighting makes Greg look dangerous. He does he looks
Speaker 1: some I like to look Greg, I like to look
Speaker 1: you look. Um. I don't know how to describe it. It
Speaker 1: It looks a tad sinister. Yes, we are coming to you.
Speaker 1: About twenty or so minutes after the conclusion of round
Speaker 1: one of the two NFL Draft, the Virtual Draft, and uh,
Speaker 1: despite all of the concerns, it went off extremely smoothly.
Speaker 1: I you know, I watched the whole thing. I maybe
Speaker 1: missed the last pick when I was starting to get
Speaker 1: set up here in the garage, but it didn't seem
Speaker 1: like there were any real hiccups in the broadcast, and
Speaker 1: that that is a credit to everyone that work to
Speaker 1: make this thing happened. And I actually even thought, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into a reaction to obviously all the
Speaker 1: picks and takeaways from night one, when we didn't have
Speaker 1: a trade in the first ten picks or so, I
Speaker 1: was curious, like a lot of people. I'm sure if
Speaker 1: that was directly connected to fears connected to the connectivity
Speaker 1: of this event. But then the trade started fast and furious.
Speaker 1: After that outgoes that theory. Yeah, I thought Lindsay Rhodes
Speaker 1: put it well. It felt more intimate and less commercial
Speaker 1: and less massive. To me, it felt like football before
Speaker 1: instant replay, where you can actually get some momentum going
Speaker 1: and there's no stops for like, you know, whatever productions
Speaker 1: they have planned that night. I kind of like the
Speaker 1: way it moved. Yeah, there was a period where I
Speaker 1: thought that we might be doing this show at maybe
Speaker 1: you know, five pm Pacific, because it was really rolling
Speaker 1: there out of the gate, because they went eighteen minutes
Speaker 1: past the start of the draft and then started a
Speaker 1: ten minute clock on Joe Burrow, who had been connected
Speaker 1: to go to the Bangals for about you know, three
Speaker 1: months now. Yeah, I was a little concert. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, Dan, we were texting back and forth. I
Speaker 1: think there was some general concern about, um, what the
Speaker 1: the pace of it out of the gate, But then
Speaker 1: you know, it caught fire, and Dan, I mean, we
Speaker 1: got it. We're burying the lead here. It is your birthday, um,
Speaker 1: and you're no longer in your thirties, and I know
Speaker 1: that's been a big a point of you know, contention
Speaker 1: with the rest of us. Were all so much older
Speaker 1: than you. Um, you're officially uh in our decade now,
Speaker 1: in our in our time in life. But we wish
Speaker 1: you happy birthday. It will be like a tough seven
Speaker 1: or eight months before you guys hit your fifties. Uh,
Speaker 1: but I'm forty one for the record, you know, give
Speaker 1: me a break. Yeah, I don't have Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: have a ton of heat on you guys now, because, yeah,
Speaker 1: the thirties to forties seems like a big deal. I'll
Speaker 1: always be younger. But um, I'm I'm happy that things
Speaker 1: worked out the way they did in a way with
Speaker 1: the draft being tonight, because it did give me something
Speaker 1: to look forward to and it wasn't just another day
Speaker 1: trapped in a house. Uh. And you know, I did
Speaker 1: have a chance. The Santa Ana winds were blown in
Speaker 1: last night and uh, as eleven fifty nine tick to midnight,
Speaker 1: I sat on my front step and I thought about
Speaker 1: my thirties, which were insane, Uh, when I was just
Speaker 1: going year by year all the things that happened in
Speaker 1: my life. Um. So I'm wondering how the forties will
Speaker 1: play out, and um so far it's it was a
Speaker 1: good birthday and I'm excited to talk football with you boys.
Speaker 1: Well plus all, Joe Douglas wrapped up a nice three
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty eight pound present for you, you know,
Speaker 1: just like Man, that giant mound of humanity and happy
Speaker 1: birthday of course the Simone Sessler who also turned forty today. UM,
Speaker 1: under different circumstances, Mark, maybe we would be on the
Speaker 1: deck after the show celebrating that. But down the road
Speaker 1: maybe yeah. I mean I think that, um, the the
Speaker 1: the overall vibe here was birthday delayed to some degree
Speaker 1: where we definitely have to um do something when all
Speaker 1: this wraps. But I bought her a gift weeks ago
Speaker 1: that still has not arrived in the mail. UM, so
Speaker 1: that's a bit of a disaster. And you know, it
Speaker 1: was around six or seven hours ago that I deposit
Speaker 1: her deposited her um with our kids to go do
Speaker 1: that all of this. So I'm I'm not sure it's
Speaker 1: exactly how she thought, um the forties would begin, but
Speaker 1: you know, forties are a weird time, and she's starting
Speaker 1: to feel that that same feeling that we feel. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get to it and thank you boys. Uh, there's
Speaker 1: so much to go through, So I think, do you
Speaker 1: guys want to hit on like a big picture thought
Speaker 1: before we get into things, or do we want to
Speaker 1: just start cooking through the first round? You guys, let
Speaker 1: me know, let's cook. I mean to me, to me,
Speaker 1: like the one place to start, whether it's whether it's
Speaker 1: like a big thought, you know. That was one thing
Speaker 1: I noticed. They did it perfectly the ESPN production, but
Speaker 1: they they occasionally did have the weight of where no
Speaker 1: one from the seven box that they had knew when
Speaker 1: to jump in. That was great, and I felt I
Speaker 1: felt their pain. But I was gonna say, whether it's
Speaker 1: a big thought or not, to me, this draft is
Speaker 1: gonna be remembered for to ultimately going number five. And
Speaker 1: I know that's not the first pick. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you wanted to go in order, but to me,
Speaker 1: that was a good place to start the moment where okay,
Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna remember out of this draft. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Burrow goes one to the Bengals, and what else
Speaker 1: needs to be said there? That was the That was
Speaker 1: the pick that made a lot of sense. Even though
Speaker 1: there were reports earlier in the day that the Dolphins
Speaker 1: we're attempting trade up to get to three with the
Speaker 1: lines and then using more that leverage to try to
Speaker 1: move up to one in the quote unquote Godfather author,
Speaker 1: none of that ever happened. Uh, and then it went Chalk,
Speaker 1: so it went Burrow one, Chase Young too. The line
Speaker 1: stayed where they they were three and drafted jeff A Couda,
Speaker 1: the cornerback. The Giants as expected to take the first
Speaker 1: tackle off the board Andrew Thomas. Maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: of a surprise day took Thomas. But again, as we've
Speaker 1: been reading about and talking to people in the know
Speaker 1: that these all these tackles are so close to there's
Speaker 1: no really way to know who was the number one guy.
Speaker 1: But for the Giants, it was Andrew Thomas. And then
Speaker 1: yes to a at number five goes to the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: the guy that had been connected to the Dolphins forever.
Speaker 1: And I think I mentioned it yesterday on the show
Speaker 1: that the last week or so of the pre draft
Speaker 1: process wasn't exactly kind to to us and people you
Speaker 1: talk to and what we were reading. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, Mark the Dolphins stayed right there
Speaker 1: and they do now have that guy that they could
Speaker 1: plug in with all these other new pieces around them
Speaker 1: say this is our future and this is the face
Speaker 1: of the franchise. I mean, the day began with you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of whispers of the Dolphins wanting to get up, um,
Speaker 1: you know, into that spot where Detroit was to get
Speaker 1: ahead of the Giants potentially to get the tackle of
Speaker 1: their choice, which you know, I get it. That's an
Speaker 1: very important position and they addressed that later on. But
Speaker 1: to me, you know, we had Steve Wish on the
Speaker 1: show a while back to talk about two and it
Speaker 1: took me too long, but I got around to reading
Speaker 1: um his amazing feature on Onto and is anyone wondering
Speaker 1: who the person is should go read this, and Dolphins fans,
Speaker 1: if you haven't, should go check it out. I mean,
Speaker 1: it just painted a completely different picture of this player.
Speaker 1: And then you know, you read these things and you
Speaker 1: kind of get swept up. I was just like, I
Speaker 1: cannot believe a team will pass on him based on
Speaker 1: his current um, you know, the health injury that he's
Speaker 1: coming off of the hip injury, because to me, I
Speaker 1: think he just has the potential to be just wildly
Speaker 1: electric and completely change a franchise if you get the
Speaker 1: upside version of that player. And I'm I'm kind of
Speaker 1: glad for Dolphins fans who seemed to have gone a
Speaker 1: billion years without really a functional franchise quarterback unless you
Speaker 1: were in love with the Ryan Tannehill version um when
Speaker 1: he was in Miami. I mean, it's been I think
Speaker 1: quarterback since Dan Marino. This could change all that. And
Speaker 1: I don't know how you go do what they did
Speaker 1: all season long and the the organic fish tank that
Speaker 1: we spent a thousand hours in during the season without
Speaker 1: coming out of this with a quarterback. So you know,
Speaker 1: these are all risks and gambles, but I love that
Speaker 1: they went for it. I can't imagine them doing the
Speaker 1: last year and a half any better. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you think about it, the two big moves they made is,
Speaker 1: you know, picking up Brian Flores, who won five games
Speaker 1: with a team that they were trying to tank. And
Speaker 1: now it's getting to a who was the guy that
Speaker 1: they were attached to the whole time, and they traded
Speaker 1: away all these veterans to get those draft picks. And
Speaker 1: they didn't have to trade him to go get the quarterback.
Speaker 1: They got to use him tonight on a couple other players.
Speaker 1: You know you mentioned you entered the tackle. They took
Speaker 1: a surprising cornerback at the end. We'll see if those work,
Speaker 1: but like it couldn't worked any better because Flores looks
Speaker 1: like the real deal and to a unlike Justin herber Is,
Speaker 1: I think a unique talent. I listened to, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: a rare good job. I moved the sticks. I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta admit. He does a couple of pods right
Speaker 1: around draft time, I think. Then it ends after the
Speaker 1: draft um and just stops for the rest of He
Speaker 1: goes down to San Diego, talks about ten months off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so he doesn't cover the NFL at all, but
Speaker 1: they did. He did this, you know, three sixt to
Speaker 1: h And the most interesting part to me was when
Speaker 1: he had Trent dilf Round and him and DJ talking
Speaker 1: about what to A does best, and they were just
Speaker 1: talking about his quickness and they said, his eyes are
Speaker 1: what sets him apart. He's got the quickest eyes, the
Speaker 1: quickest decisions in the quickest release. And it just reminds
Speaker 1: DJ and and Del for so much of Trent Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: and you kind of can't write this stuff that Drew
Speaker 1: Brees is the guy that Nick Saban passed on because
Speaker 1: of an injury that he didn't want to look past.
Speaker 1: He goes with Dante Culpepper and fifteen years later they
Speaker 1: still haven't found a quarterback, and they take the guy
Speaker 1: that that reminds me more of Breeze than anyone else,
Speaker 1: and it's Nick Saban's guy to a tongue of Boyloa.
Speaker 1: So they get the guy they were organically tanking for,
Speaker 1: but they get him at a much higher risk than
Speaker 1: they planned to a year ago. I mean, this looks
Speaker 1: like a risky draft to me, Like this is the
Speaker 1: high risk Kye reward team of the draft. Austin Jackson,
Speaker 1: a guy, a guy uh some scouts seemed to think
Speaker 1: was risky according to Bob McGinn's article. And then a cornerback,
Speaker 1: you know, late in the first round when they already
Speaker 1: have what ten twelve cornerbacks on the roster, I mean,
Speaker 1: they have the two highest paid cornerbacks in football. And
Speaker 1: then their their final first round pick, they take a
Speaker 1: corner who they planned to play in slot most likely,
Speaker 1: but it is still an embarrassment of Riches suddenly back
Speaker 1: there after being completely barreny season ago. Well, it's very
Speaker 1: similar to the Patriots building from the back to the front,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of you know, some teams
Speaker 1: are doing that, like thinking the secondary matters more than anything.
Speaker 1: But you look at what I think all the buzz
Speaker 1: happening today and this week, and you you got a
Speaker 1: point to I think the Dolphins kind of doing a
Speaker 1: good job. Like whatever this buzz was, they convinced enough
Speaker 1: people that they might take Herbert and this whole trade,
Speaker 1: that they might trade up for a tackle. To me,
Speaker 1: that was trying to prevent anyone from trading up ahead
Speaker 1: of them, either to take to Uh or preventing the
Speaker 1: Giants from trading that pick. Because the Giants wanted Andrew Thomas.
Speaker 1: They're saying, stay right there, we want to it to
Speaker 1: fall to us. People didn't really have an idea, and
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe Justin Herbert turns out fine. But I
Speaker 1: feel like there's a Justin Herbert in every draft, like
Speaker 1: a strong I got strong armed guy who wasn't really
Speaker 1: that consistent, wasn't that accurate, but super athletic. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's probably more athletic than than Burrow and too a um,
Speaker 1: but like you can find those guys. To us, seems
Speaker 1: like a much better chance to be the guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think to West West, you're right, I mean to
Speaker 1: a is a I'm not a boom or bust, but
Speaker 1: there is an absolute um noted risk to the point
Speaker 1: where some teams didn't really even consider them on their board.
Speaker 1: But if if they came out of this first round
Speaker 1: without a quarterback at all, it would be hard to
Speaker 1: understand what the Dolphins were attempting to do all along.
Speaker 1: And I just view the other quarterbacks after after Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow just simply not anything. They're just as risky, if
Speaker 1: not more than two. Uh. I mean, I just stuffed
Speaker 1: on Justin Herbert. I just I don't. I'm kind of
Speaker 1: glad they didn't go in that direction. We'll we'll get
Speaker 1: to Herbert in one second. Who went to the Chargers
Speaker 1: at six? I can't get out of my head. The
Speaker 1: one quote from the personnel man uh in the m
Speaker 1: gun piece where he talked about how and too it's
Speaker 1: not just a hip which was a career threatening injury
Speaker 1: that he's not out of the woods on Uh. They
Speaker 1: it's a situation where they won't know for a year
Speaker 1: whether that the hip is going to be fully recovered
Speaker 1: because of the blood flow in that area of the
Speaker 1: body and all this kind of stuff. But when he
Speaker 1: gets hit, they say, it's like a car crash, and
Speaker 1: certain guys have the ability to pop right up. He
Speaker 1: is a guy when he gets hit, it seems like
Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, the end of the world.
Speaker 1: And as as they were doing the you know, highlight
Speaker 1: reel and talking about right immediately after the pick, just
Speaker 1: cycling through all the injuries in his college years and
Speaker 1: now you're going to the NFL, where guys hit harder
Speaker 1: and run faster. I think it was a good pick,
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm also totally in agreement that it is
Speaker 1: a boom or bust move and maybe the Dolphins felt
Speaker 1: like this was something they couldn't pass up. So I'm
Speaker 1: not down on the move, and I'm happy for a
Speaker 1: handsome Hank, not for Dolphins fans in general, but handsome
Speaker 1: Hank in particular. But it is a major role of
Speaker 1: the Dice here. It really is that number six. Yes,
Speaker 1: Herbert goes to the Charges. We talked about on the
Speaker 1: Twitter show. I said that the Charges cannot come out
Speaker 1: of this draft, and specifically their first pick, without somebody
Speaker 1: to kind of build this team around. Herbert's the guy
Speaker 1: they get, and like Greg said, athletic guy didn't play
Speaker 1: so well down the stretch in his final season in Oregon.
Speaker 1: There are some questions about how he processes the game
Speaker 1: speed wise, it makes you wonder, is this a guy
Speaker 1: you can put right into the line up? Well, now,
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor is a good set up for them there
Speaker 1: because they do have the option to do the Browns
Speaker 1: thing and have Tyrod start and then slide in the
Speaker 1: rookie when it's deemed appropriate. He is the opposite of Rivers.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like Rivers is the guy who takes
Speaker 1: too many chances. If Herbert has a criticism other than
Speaker 1: you know, kind of inconsistent accuracy, ites that he doesn't
Speaker 1: take chances, it's that he plays it a little safe,
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to have the same instinct, certainly doesn't have
Speaker 1: the same like quick mind. I think that that burrow
Speaker 1: into a have but he's got the physical skill set.
Speaker 1: He looks kind that like a play action old school quarterback,
Speaker 1: like big arm, like you see these guys come out,
Speaker 1: and he feels a little more old school. But he's
Speaker 1: also super athletic, and so I think that probably attracted
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn that he does offer something that they can
Speaker 1: he can you know, be used in the running game too.
Speaker 1: From an on field perspective, he comes into a great
Speaker 1: situation a team that upgraded the offensive line with a
Speaker 1: couple of guys the defense, they had Chris Harris and Lindvall,
Speaker 1: Juice Joseph and then they had the second first round
Speaker 1: pick here and Kenneth Murray the linebacker. This roster I
Speaker 1: mean admitting that there's a huge question mark at quarterback,
Speaker 1: the rest of the roster just looks like a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl contender. The next pick was Derek Brown, the defensive tackle,
Speaker 1: goes to the Panthers, a serious area of need for
Speaker 1: Carolina and a guy that gives them With Kwan Short
Speaker 1: they are a really great defensive line. Uh. That will
Speaker 1: be hard to move on. Isaiah Simmons, the guy that
Speaker 1: has everybody conflicted. Uh, but a great athlete that played
Speaker 1: all over at Clemson, goes to the Cardinals at eight.
Speaker 1: This is right around the time, by the way, as
Speaker 1: a Jets man, I'm feeling really good because these offensive
Speaker 1: linemen are not flying off the board like people expected.
Speaker 1: And then at pick nine, c J hand Henderson, the
Speaker 1: number two cornerback in this draft class according to many
Speaker 1: out of Florida, goes to the Jags, who obviously traded
Speaker 1: away Jalen Ramsey and a J. Booyer in the past
Speaker 1: seven months now they bring in the rookie Henderson with
Speaker 1: huge upside thoughts on those picks, A guys I would
Speaker 1: say go ahead. Was I thought that the Cardinals stand
Speaker 1: out to me for adding a blue chip talent on
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball to get DeAndre Hopkins on
Speaker 1: offense and Simmons on defense. UM, that to me that
Speaker 1: that's what you want in an offseason. Yeah. I cannot
Speaker 1: wait to see Isaiah Simmons. And I think it's whenever
Speaker 1: there was a player that has um, you know, different
Speaker 1: opinions from scouts in there's all this buzz about how
Speaker 1: do you play him and what systems that if does
Speaker 1: he fit in? That could be a great thing too
Speaker 1: and I I, for me, I think that's an awesome
Speaker 1: lay need spot. UM. I was kind of blown away
Speaker 1: also by Cliff Kingsbury's uh, you know almost Miami vice
Speaker 1: like UM palatial estate, which you know, Daniel, you you've
Speaker 1: made a good point. Is that in Palm Springs and
Speaker 1: it is in Arizona. I believe, um, but that would
Speaker 1: make more sense. But it reminds me of some of
Speaker 1: those if you ever if you live in California and
Speaker 1: you go on Airbnb looking for Palm Springs house and
Speaker 1: just for the f of it, you go look at
Speaker 1: the higher end houses in Rings. That's what it looks like.
Speaker 1: And then uh, I asked on Twitter, I said, wait,
Speaker 1: is Cliff Kings, are you a billionaire? And I think
Speaker 1: Robert Klemcoe responded, dude, Arizona, you have no idea how
Speaker 1: far money goes, which is probably true. Maybe it's like
Speaker 1: a two hundred thousand dollar house in Arizona, but it
Speaker 1: looked like a cartel house from better. Yeah, he's the
Speaker 1: best around. I don't know if it's if it's the
Speaker 1: best fit um for the Cardinals, because you kind of
Speaker 1: look like, I wonder if Cardinals fan and of course
Speaker 1: everyone's excited tonight, but you look at Steve Kimes draft history.
Speaker 1: He took a Son Reddick, which was the kind of
Speaker 1: the guy in that draft. It's like, doesn't have a position.
Speaker 1: He can do a lot of things, and they haven't
Speaker 1: figured out, you know, what he can actually do. And
Speaker 1: they took Dan Buchanan who has kind of a similar
Speaker 1: skill set, and he had his moments in Arizona, but ultimately,
Speaker 1: you know, ended up not being like a huge, huge
Speaker 1: difference maker for them, and they don't. They have Vance
Speaker 1: jos Joseph as a defensive coordinator who has struggled, but
Speaker 1: he's a defensive back sky and I have a feeling
Speaker 1: Simmons is gonna play safety. I mean, Vance Joseph might
Speaker 1: not be the best defensive coordinator in the world, but
Speaker 1: I think he knows what to do with a guy
Speaker 1: like Simmon, Yeah, you gotta have a plan for him,
Speaker 1: and and hopefully they do. But they were not good
Speaker 1: on defense, and it's been it's been a while, maybe
Speaker 1: forever since have ever coached a good defense? I mean, right,
Speaker 1: has he ever? Has he ever coached a good defense?
Speaker 1: Like when he's the coordinator? Haven't they almost always been? Basically, Uh,
Speaker 1: you've just met problem because your boy, Todd Bowles is
Speaker 1: the only defensive back minded defensive coordinator you have time
Speaker 1: for in your life. It's a strange shot, but it
Speaker 1: checks that. And then it did. Now that you bring
Speaker 1: up the uh, the move that the Cardinals made and
Speaker 1: they have DeAndre Hopkins, it reminded me as I'm watching
Speaker 1: the draft, because we won't really have a chance to
Speaker 1: bring them up again. The Houston Texans, I noticed, you know,
Speaker 1: a theme in this draft, and it happens every year.
Speaker 1: You trade a guy is stand out veteran or you're
Speaker 1: losing to free agency, and then you use the draft
Speaker 1: and you plug that hole with the guy you hope
Speaker 1: he comes that next guy. And we saw that with
Speaker 1: the cornerback in Jacksonville, and you saw what the Vikings
Speaker 1: did replacing Stefon Diggs. Again, if you're Texans fan, you
Speaker 1: trade away DeAndre Hopkins and then when when you're supposed
Speaker 1: to then take a wide receiver to get all excited
Speaker 1: about tonight, you don't have a first round pick. Rand
Speaker 1: Cooks and Randall com Oh, that's right, they're fine. I mean, Dan,
Speaker 1: you're you're you know, half your job at NFL Network
Speaker 1: has been defending Bill O'Brien. So you took a strange
Speaker 1: left turn right there. But I totally agree with your analysis. C. J.
Speaker 1: Henderson is is a risky pick too. I think for
Speaker 1: the for the Jags, like I guy, people have felt
Speaker 1: very differently about and they they've had a bad history,
Speaker 1: you know, taking Florida players. They took John Taylor has
Speaker 1: kind of been a bust for them so far. Donte
Speaker 1: Fowler a few years back. I feel like they always
Speaker 1: take these these UF guys and they don't work out.
Speaker 1: It's an old time expression, Mark, but I call it
Speaker 1: like I see it. I believe the Bill O'Brien. And
Speaker 1: then he started doing things that I didn't believe in anymore.
Speaker 1: I mean you also, you know, you have immense scravitas
Speaker 1: now that you're you're, you know, hours into your fifth decades,
Speaker 1: So I will listen to anything you said. All right,
Speaker 1: So then the Browns and the Jets are on the board,
Speaker 1: and uh, they both as expected by many, especially once
Speaker 1: the draft shook out the way it did in the
Speaker 1: first nine picks take offensive tackles. The Browns teake judged
Speaker 1: Wills Jr. Out of Alabama, the Jets take McKay Beckton
Speaker 1: at a Louisville and uh, I texted Mark Um on
Speaker 1: our friend chain during the draft that nice, solid, no nonsense,
Speaker 1: no funny business pick from our teams that are usually
Speaker 1: subjects of ridicule. Hard to get down on either team
Speaker 1: from making the moves they made here. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: reached out to Nick Shook, who I really think is
Speaker 1: one of the better um in our sphere, better evaluators
Speaker 1: of offensive line play, does a lot of work on that.
Speaker 1: He's written a lot of columns for NFL dot Com
Speaker 1: up offensive lineman. If it came to it, he could,
Speaker 1: I mean he he probably could step in and play
Speaker 1: for a couple of these teams. I mean I asked him,
Speaker 1: were you surprised that they went with Will's over you know,
Speaker 1: the other two or three options there, and he said
Speaker 1: it was his favorite of all of them. Um, you
Speaker 1: know which you know, I think that they were. They're
Speaker 1: all jumbled together, and it probably depends on what type
Speaker 1: of line play or what type of offense you want. Um.
Speaker 1: But Kevin Stefanski of the Browns also just remarked that
Speaker 1: he thought that Wills was a perfect um scheme fit
Speaker 1: for the kind of uh offense that they want to
Speaker 1: they want to run. And so I think the Browns
Speaker 1: are happy. And then you look at what the Jets did,
Speaker 1: and I mean they Greg mentioned it. They got a
Speaker 1: gigantic BMF and I they needed it. And so you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes with the draft, like you want you want ceedee Lamb,
Speaker 1: you want you want all these other guys that maybe
Speaker 1: fit the profile of like a super sexy like draft
Speaker 1: day pick. But uh, the line, if these linemen work out,
Speaker 1: they've solved immense problems for both teams. He's six seven
Speaker 1: three and sixty four pounds and at the combine that's
Speaker 1: like three of Greg and me put together. At the
Speaker 1: combine he ran a like a five one uh And
Speaker 1: I thought Connor Hughes of the athletic how a tweet
Speaker 1: that got me excited. Beckton doesn't have the potential to
Speaker 1: be good. He has the potential to be an all
Speaker 1: world player. You don't find guys that big with that
Speaker 1: kind of athleticism. There's a little bit of risk. He
Speaker 1: got flagged for a drug test um of some kind
Speaker 1: at the combine, which you know that is on my
Speaker 1: radar a little bit. That all depends what kind of drug.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's right, that's variety of options. It was
Speaker 1: the one. It was the drug that's legal here in California.
Speaker 1: So I don't think people were too worried. You're talking
Speaker 1: about marijuana, okay, Um, So I'm excited. I'm how be
Speaker 1: with that pick in now, hopefully at least for the Jets.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the Browns do next. That wide
Speaker 1: receiver that you want, I hope you get that in
Speaker 1: the middle of the second round. We'll see. Good job,
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas. Uh, let us move on. So Mark and
Speaker 1: I are happy. We're feeling good. We're that our organizations,
Speaker 1: by the way, Mark, are in this trajectory where three
Speaker 1: years ago we were celebrating drafting our quarterbacks, and now
Speaker 1: they both draft the left tackle that's supposed to protect
Speaker 1: their quarterbacks for the next decade. Maybe these teams will
Speaker 1: start winning now. That would be great. Well, I would say, right,
Speaker 1: it's not here we are. It's April. Um, you know
Speaker 1: six months from now, are they going to be oh
Speaker 1: and four and utter disasters or can they do the
Speaker 1: story a little bit? Change the story? Alright? The final
Speaker 1: the first wide receiver comes off the board. So the Raiders,
Speaker 1: the draft could not work out better for them, a
Speaker 1: team that was a desperate need, as we talked about,
Speaker 1: for a wide receiver. When they pick at twelve, they
Speaker 1: don't have to move and they get to pick any
Speaker 1: wide receiver they want coming out of college. They go
Speaker 1: with Henry Ruggs out of Alabama. Guy with speed. He's
Speaker 1: a guy, He's exactly what this team needed after the
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown fiasco. West. Uh, your thoughts on this move?
Speaker 1: You can't really it's hard to knock it. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: made me think it was a grooten pick, that this
Speaker 1: is the kind of guy that Gruden would love to
Speaker 1: scheme up and do all this stuff before the snap
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs do with Tyreek Hill. And my second
Speaker 1: thought was, I hope he's more like Tyreek Hill and
Speaker 1: and less like Brandon Cooks. Dan Cooks was pretty damn
Speaker 1: good before those injuries started. He is, but Brandon Cooks
Speaker 1: is a guy we all thought coming into the league
Speaker 1: was gonna be a guy you can use close to
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage like Percy Harvin and break tackles
Speaker 1: and do all that stuff. And he ended up being
Speaker 1: more of a strict downfield guy. And I think when
Speaker 1: you draft a guy like this, you you want to
Speaker 1: be able to do both. You want to do the
Speaker 1: downfield stuff and the and the pre snap behind the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage stuff. I mean, his his speed and
Speaker 1: his like you know, quickness to get off the line,
Speaker 1: is is gonna arrival anyone in the NFL. I mean
Speaker 1: it might, you know, it'll be there with with Tyreek
Speaker 1: Yell and he's had good hands and so that that's
Speaker 1: why he goes first. And of course the Raiders know
Speaker 1: a million things more than me. It's just weird to
Speaker 1: look at, like, you know, the box box score from
Speaker 1: the Alabama season and see that Henry Ruggs was their
Speaker 1: third receiver and at seven and fifty yards and had
Speaker 1: like five hundred yards less than Dafante Smith and five
Speaker 1: yards less than Jerry Judy, and he just had so
Speaker 1: much less production. And he's like a return guy and
Speaker 1: and it'll probably work out. And at the very least
Speaker 1: he has like a very defined skill set that they're
Speaker 1: gonna use. But that I don't know that we're that
Speaker 1: weirds me out a little bit. The receivers that come
Speaker 1: in and that everyone's like, well they got return ability
Speaker 1: to Like that's where you get into travel with Ted
Speaker 1: Ginn and Cordurell Patterson and other guys at the top
Speaker 1: of the draft that have a lot of speed, right
Speaker 1: who had this as the number one wide out coming
Speaker 1: off the board. I mean, I know he you know,
Speaker 1: Ruggs picked up steam definitely later in the process. But
Speaker 1: I viewed this as a pretty big upset. But then
Speaker 1: there's Mike Mayock, and you know, he's he only as
Speaker 1: someone that when he falls for a player, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's committed to in in West. Maybe you're right, maybe
Speaker 1: this is a Grooten fetish as well. Al Davis would
Speaker 1: love this pick. It's very much a Raiders pick, and
Speaker 1: like all the draft knicks, like DJ had him as
Speaker 1: like a top twelve player, so it wasn't too crazy.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just weird to see a guy that
Speaker 1: didn't produce nearly as much as his teammates. I don't
Speaker 1: know that would weird me out. What could be deems crazy,
Speaker 1: and we'll get to is the second Raiders pick, which
Speaker 1: was the one. There's always one where the draft knicks
Speaker 1: are left scratching their head a little bit, and we'll
Speaker 1: get to that in a little bit. At thirteen, Like
Speaker 1: I said, no trades in the first twelve picks, but
Speaker 1: then it starts with the Buccaneers, um, who trade with
Speaker 1: the forty Excuse me? The forty Niners were at thirteen?
Speaker 1: Is that correct? And they traded out the Bucks. So
Speaker 1: the Bucks move up one spot, and that actually was
Speaker 1: It's something I was kind of legitimately curious about. If
Speaker 1: you're drafting, drafting fourteenth in the first round, you move
Speaker 1: up one pick, what what should that cost you? What's
Speaker 1: the price? What would be an acceptable used to move
Speaker 1: up one pick in the middle of the first round
Speaker 1: of a draft. What would you guess if if no
Speaker 1: one told you what the terms were? So, well, it
Speaker 1: depends which pick. But yeah, in the middle sparks first.
Speaker 1: Trapped in the middle of the round. It's a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick. It costs your fourth round pick in this
Speaker 1: case anyway. So the Tampa three Youngers, Tampa Bay Bucking Ears,
Speaker 1: three Rocks, Danny. Uh, they select Tristan Worths, the other
Speaker 1: offensive tackle of the big four that everybody was talking about.
Speaker 1: So the bucks Man they they're having a flashy off
Speaker 1: season because not only they get Tom Brady and Grog,
Speaker 1: now they make a trade and get one of these
Speaker 1: big four lineman. Good for them. Uh. So they get
Speaker 1: a tackle. And then the Niners they stay, They stay
Speaker 1: at fourteen and draft Javon Kinlaw, the big defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: Some people thought they would take a wide receiver, here
Speaker 1: they take the defensive tackle. Your thoughts, gentleman, I love
Speaker 1: the way that forty Niners played this, knowing that they
Speaker 1: wanted kin Law and then looking at Tampa's roster and
Speaker 1: saying that they have in Dominican Sue and Vita Vea,
Speaker 1: They're not going defensive tackle here, so let's just pick
Speaker 1: up a free mid round pick and get the same
Speaker 1: guy we were after. And on the flip side, I
Speaker 1: like that the Bucks got this guy. He's a good player,
Speaker 1: but it as it turned out, they didn't have to
Speaker 1: trade up for him. Well, maybe maybe the forty nine
Speaker 1: is convinced them that someone else was moving up to
Speaker 1: that spot. You know, Lynch might say, oh, I've gotten
Speaker 1: one call to to get something. Who knows if he
Speaker 1: head faked him. It couldn't have worked out more perfectly
Speaker 1: for the Buck because they need a right tackle and
Speaker 1: and they're gonna play worse they said at right tackling.
Speaker 1: You know, unlike the Browns pick, he doesn't have to
Speaker 1: move sides. He he seemed like the safer, more pro
Speaker 1: ready like past protection guy. And they are in all
Speaker 1: in for two years with Tom Brady mode. So the
Speaker 1: Jets guy has a lot more upside. You don't have
Speaker 1: to change positions. But like this seemed like the safer
Speaker 1: pick because they just need to, you know, get it
Speaker 1: going for two thousand and twenty that they can't wait around.
Speaker 1: A lot of people thought the Giants would go after
Speaker 1: Works way up at number four, so I I love
Speaker 1: what they're talking about these draft guys, because that's what
Speaker 1: they said. They said, there's really gonna be no way
Speaker 1: to judge who's gonna be taken out of those four guys,
Speaker 1: because it's a complete like jumble in terms of who's
Speaker 1: the best guy, and that's exactly how it turned out.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, I'm with Greg, though. I think that maybe
Speaker 1: the Bucks felt that it wasn't that, oh, we think
Speaker 1: that the Niners are gonna take our our tackle at all,
Speaker 1: but that someone else might have and they had pinpointed him.
Speaker 1: And you know, they showed Bruce arians Um in his
Speaker 1: homestead and he looks super chill and super pleased with
Speaker 1: what went down. So I don't think they have a problem,
Speaker 1: you know, giving away whatever whatever it costs them to
Speaker 1: get up in that spot. I love. This Bucks offseason
Speaker 1: is insane, and like I, you know, I joke about
Speaker 1: that they're gonna have nine primetime games, but I can't
Speaker 1: think of a more fascinating Um team right now. And
Speaker 1: someone made a great point. Someone DM me and said,
Speaker 1: it's too bad they already picked hard knocks because this
Speaker 1: would never happen. But the best hard knocks combo ever,
Speaker 1: would be not the Chargers and the Rams, but the
Speaker 1: Patriots and the Bucks. That would be fascinating to watch.
Speaker 1: Arians and Arians and Brady would be great just in
Speaker 1: Gronk and that that would be fun that the forty
Speaker 1: nine is making this pick too. I like it when
Speaker 1: teams just like they make the same picks all the time,
Speaker 1: like they're they're just into certain sort of players, like
Speaker 1: ken law is very much in their mold of defensive
Speaker 1: linemen that they take a replacement for Devorce Buckner. And
Speaker 1: then with their second pick that they traded back up
Speaker 1: into the round to get their receiver, they took Brandon Ayak,
Speaker 1: who who's like exactly like all of their other receivers.
Speaker 1: He was the one guy saw that I didn't quite get.
Speaker 1: But he's like just he looks like a running back
Speaker 1: plane wide receiver, run after the catch guy who's just
Speaker 1: like heard in Diebo Samuel and like that. You know,
Speaker 1: they brought in Pierre Gosan, like Pierre Gosan wannabes, and
Speaker 1: they just keep taking the same guys over and over,
Speaker 1: and that's what they do, and you gotta try to
Speaker 1: stop him. Well, the knock on I was that he
Speaker 1: only runs like three routes the same ones at all
Speaker 1: of Kyle Shanahan's wide receivers run I mean that guy's
Speaker 1: teams wide receivers open better than anybody. So I don't
Speaker 1: even know if route runnings as important for a forty
Speaker 1: Niners receiver as it is for other teams. Um mentioned
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks. By the way, I did broach it with
Speaker 1: our features editor Ali ban Pury the idea of walking
Speaker 1: away from the Hard Knocks recaps this year as a
Speaker 1: sign of protest with the decision to go with the
Speaker 1: two l A teams a little pushback. So I'll keep
Speaker 1: you guys updated how that goes. Yeah, if I suspect
Speaker 1: his move, you know, I feel like it's like, well,
Speaker 1: we can just have someone else write it. Well, that
Speaker 1: would be fine. But that's not what he said initially. Okay,
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know about that. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: this again after the draft. How would you feel, Dan
Speaker 1: if you, um, you were allowed off the assignment and
Speaker 1: West just picked it up as his pet project in
Speaker 1: August for you. Yeah, Dan's fine with this. Yeah, I would, actually,
Speaker 1: I would. We we've heard dance takes on Hard Knocks
Speaker 1: that I would. I would like to hear. Well, I've
Speaker 1: I've yet to survive past the third episode of any
Speaker 1: season of the show, so I doubt that would they
Speaker 1: want me on it? Alright, Moving moving on, Jerry Judy
Speaker 1: goes to the Denver Broncos with the fifteen overall pick.
Speaker 1: John Elway really feeling himself in the shots of his
Speaker 1: fisherman's cabin wherever the hell Johnny was. But he got
Speaker 1: his wide receiver, and I'm he seemed very happy with
Speaker 1: the pick, and considering Judy was the guy some people
Speaker 1: thought would go first among the wide receivers, getting him
Speaker 1: in the middle of the first round, you understand why
Speaker 1: Mr Elway was so pumped up. Well, yeah, he's He
Speaker 1: said after the draft that Judy was the number one
Speaker 1: guy on their board. I don't know if that's clear,
Speaker 1: whether he wide receivers or overall, but um I you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a sucker for a Denver team and I love
Speaker 1: their off seas the team of a little bit pushed
Speaker 1: back at first. Both of the teams that burned me
Speaker 1: hard last year, the Cowboys and Goes. I loved what
Speaker 1: they did in the draft. Uh, the Cowboys getting Ceedee Lamb,
Speaker 1: a guy who Jerry Jones said was number six overall
Speaker 1: on their board, and I'm kind of interested to see
Speaker 1: what they would have done had he not been there.
Speaker 1: It sounded like they were studying cornerbacks and may have
Speaker 1: gone in that direction. But back to the Broncos, I
Speaker 1: just I just really liked their off season. You pair
Speaker 1: him with Melvin Gordon, they picked up Graham Glasgow to
Speaker 1: solidify their offensive line, and they get Darell Casey and
Speaker 1: Chris or Not um A J. Boyer on defense. I mean,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Well, we were dude to do it. It's
Speaker 1: the old go ahead. It's always mark, the old remote trick, right,
Speaker 1: it's pointing to me. I just I was convinced Denver,
Speaker 1: you know, and at this point every single team in
Speaker 1: the league was whispered about as wanting to move up
Speaker 1: or down. So I mean, it's all irrelevant, but I
Speaker 1: thought Denver was ripe and would have to move up
Speaker 1: to get this player. And there were a couple of
Speaker 1: teams today where the perfect player fell to them without
Speaker 1: any movement. I don't remember too many drafts like that
Speaker 1: where the lack of trade activity UM didn't leave me
Speaker 1: thinking that teams weren't aggressive enough just because of who
Speaker 1: landed in their laps. Yeah, you guys get annoyed with
Speaker 1: um like the NFC East, the Giants and Cowboys getting
Speaker 1: too much love. My version of that is football pundits
Speaker 1: falling over themselves to compliment John Elway whenever possible. So
Speaker 1: another another big night for those people. It's back. It's
Speaker 1: back because this team is fun. You know you had
Speaker 1: the Broncos trading up and your mock mark. I know
Speaker 1: we'll get to that later for Jerry Judy, but you're right,
Speaker 1: like for him to be able to pair Judy with
Speaker 1: Courtland Sun and that is a badass duo duty to me,
Speaker 1: seemed like the highest upside and the safest guy because
Speaker 1: like you just like watch him run routes. He's gonna
Speaker 1: you know, make Matt Matt Harmon go nuts, like in
Speaker 1: a worst case scenario, like this guy can get open.
Speaker 1: Is gonna be like a Stevie Johnson or Santonio Holmes,
Speaker 1: and he could be able. I don't know, he could
Speaker 1: be a lot better. Him and Thunton next to each other.
Speaker 1: It's like it's not setting up for the Drew well,
Speaker 1: Drew locked out or is like me very well because
Speaker 1: he's just like in a great situation. Well he's still
Speaker 1: got to make the throws though. Yeah, that's another conversation.
Speaker 1: Well it's not. It's not a podcast without you throwing
Speaker 1: Shane at Drew Locks. I'm happy to hear you made
Speaker 1: plenty of those. I'm not even a daughter at all.
Speaker 1: I just want to see more. It's like five games
Speaker 1: that were they were good, they were fine, they were fine,
Speaker 1: And I think everybody knows it could go either way.
Speaker 1: But if you listen to this show on a weekly basis,
Speaker 1: it can only go poorly. Well, now he has West,
Speaker 1: the expectations are through the roof, just saying it might
Speaker 1: be might be smart, it might behoof Mr Elway to
Speaker 1: have a backup play. I agree with that. You gotta
Speaker 1: get a better backup, all right. Uh, the Atlanta Falcons
Speaker 1: take a j Terrell at a Clemson the cornerback. It's sixteen.
Speaker 1: I also, I feel like we we dug into the
Speaker 1: draft a little harder this year as a podcast than
Speaker 1: we have in recent years. And all these things are
Speaker 1: lining up in terms of what we talked about, how
Speaker 1: that we had heard the Falcons wanted to move up
Speaker 1: potentially to get into the Jeff of Cuda sweepstakes. They
Speaker 1: needed a guy in their secondary UH to replace Desmond Trufont.
Speaker 1: They get that in a j Terrell or Terrell Trell.
Speaker 1: It was as chalk top sixteen picks I think, as
Speaker 1: I've ever covered, it's the opposite of what everyone said
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, it's gonna be crazy. Nos. It
Speaker 1: was exactly how every a lot of mock drafts. And
Speaker 1: speaking of chalk, at eighteen, the Dolphins get Austin Jackson.
Speaker 1: Everyone thought that they were gonna get a tackle with
Speaker 1: Tua on board, and they get Jackson, who has thought
Speaker 1: to be the next year after those Big four. But
Speaker 1: it was the pick in between that was interesting because
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, Uh, they take Ceedee Lamb, who in
Speaker 1: the minds of many and the Jets were mocked to
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb by a lot of people, myself included at
Speaker 1: number eleven. So he ends up being the third wide
Speaker 1: receiver off the board. And now Chris Westling, you have
Speaker 1: a situation where the Dallas Cowboys sometimes it feels like
Speaker 1: this this organization is building a fantasy team to because
Speaker 1: now you bring in another huge UH target, a talented
Speaker 1: target for Dak Prescott to work with a Marii Cooper
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb. That is pretty good stuff with of course
Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott in the backfield. Oh, I love the pick
Speaker 1: and um I saw Daniel Jeremiah said something similar that
Speaker 1: he loves to fit and that's a guy who can
Speaker 1: play inside or outside. They needed a slot receiver with
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb leaving um. But I do think an interesting
Speaker 1: way to look at it is would they have signed
Speaker 1: Marie Cooper had they known Ceedee Lamb would be available?
Speaker 1: And and I think the answer is no, I don't.
Speaker 1: I think they would have allocated the resources elsewhere if
Speaker 1: they know they could get Ceedee Lamb. And many people
Speaker 1: think is the best receiver in the draft. Isn't it
Speaker 1: better to have have three great receivers? I feel like,
Speaker 1: but is it also better to have two really good
Speaker 1: receivers and then fix fix another problem, get a Cornerback
Speaker 1: when we were talking about when a Mary Cooper was
Speaker 1: headed toward free agency, and there was this thought, what
Speaker 1: are the Cowboys gonna do because they're in a bit
Speaker 1: of a bind financially potentially if they give this guy
Speaker 1: a huge contract, And then they went and did that.
Speaker 1: The theory for letting walk was then finding his replacement again,
Speaker 1: which happens in this league all the time, in an
Speaker 1: hour league, in the draft. So yeah, that's exactly how
Speaker 1: it turned out. But they ended up paying him a
Speaker 1: trillion dollars, so they they are pretty set up there. Again,
Speaker 1: this is a this is gonna be a loaded offense.
Speaker 1: And you know, Dak Prescott, if he doesn't end up
Speaker 1: signing that long term deal, Uh, it's going to be
Speaker 1: a really interesting season with him because they're basically gonna
Speaker 1: have I know, the offensive line maybe isn't one of
Speaker 1: what was a couple of years ago, but he will
Speaker 1: have as good as set up as anybody in the league,
Speaker 1: and he'll be expected to have a huge season, which
Speaker 1: will only put more pressure on him. It's and already
Speaker 1: a pressure filled situation, is quite It was also immense
Speaker 1: pressure on Mike McCarthy suddenly. I mean he's walked into
Speaker 1: most first year first free note. Shoot, r how many
Speaker 1: coaches walk into a first year situation with this kind
Speaker 1: of offense. I mean usually you go in there because
Speaker 1: who was there before led to a total train wreck
Speaker 1: and you're walking into a bit of a rebuilding project.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy does not have many excuses for them to
Speaker 1: do anything less than go about eleven and five or
Speaker 1: twelve and four. But he's got the I mean, at
Speaker 1: least offensively, he's got the players. You know, defensively, no,
Speaker 1: I don't think they do. I don't think they do
Speaker 1: on defense. But it's a big one for Tom Palasero.
Speaker 1: I mean, he puts out that feature, gets McCarthy hired,
Speaker 1: and McCarthy is gonna have a revenge tour through this league.
Speaker 1: I mean, Lamb, Cooper and and Gallup complement each other
Speaker 1: very well. That is like a like if if Lamb
Speaker 1: is who he's supposed to be, he was DJ's top receiver,
Speaker 1: kind of a run after the catch guy in the middle.
Speaker 1: I mean that those three all fit together really nicely.
Speaker 1: Yeah about eleven d yards, seventeen yards of reception and
Speaker 1: six touchdowns last year. I mean, I I get it,
Speaker 1: and I get the idea that Ceedee Lamb has a
Speaker 1: is a guy who can be a star. But was
Speaker 1: this a real position of need for the Cowboys in
Speaker 1: relation to other other parts of their roster? And it
Speaker 1: felt like it's a very Cowboys move, It's a very
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones movie. He's a DNA of what they do.
Speaker 1: He's taking a lot of big names, take the best
Speaker 1: player available. It felt like that's right around where the
Speaker 1: draft got less. Uh sexy. I guess like where there
Speaker 1: was a big drop off in talent. They kind of
Speaker 1: took the last like big name and he's done. They've
Speaker 1: done that before with guys that for whatever reason have
Speaker 1: fallen in drafts, and Jerry takes like the biggest name guy.
Speaker 1: There is funny you should say that West because uh
Speaker 1: I mentioned, of course Austin Jackson to the Dolphins. I
Speaker 1: was a pick for Need. Then the Raiders have a
Speaker 1: supreme pick for need. They needed cornerback, help the best guys. Uh,
Speaker 1: we're off the board. They take Damon Arnett at Ohio State. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is a guy that had been mocked. I think
Speaker 1: DJ said something crazy like he was like his like
Speaker 1: number fifteen cornerback it was or it was something really
Speaker 1: surprising him fifteen ninth. Overall. I did go check that
Speaker 1: just to you know, try to stoke some NFL network
Speaker 1: analyst on analyst heat, you know in my Winners and Loser,
Speaker 1: just saying like, you know, Mayok versus Jeremiah, who's going
Speaker 1: to be right here? That's pretty good. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: But uh, he was a guy that was expected to
Speaker 1: go tomorrow or even maybe on Saturday. Instead he goes
Speaker 1: at pick nineteen. So they, the Raiders and the Mayock
Speaker 1: Gruden regime surprised people last year when they took Cleveland
Speaker 1: Farrell early and that didn't work out so well, at
Speaker 1: least as a rookie. And now they have um Our
Speaker 1: Nett as their second first rounder here and we'll see
Speaker 1: how that goes. Yeah, I kept reading that he's basically
Speaker 1: a knuckle head and then to hear he's Chris Carter's son,
Speaker 1: the son of a knucklehead Chris Carter, who went to
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, but early in his career knuckle
Speaker 1: headed his way out of philadel Coast. Almost respect that
Speaker 1: the best hand and boundary man, absolutely, but he did
Speaker 1: work his way out of Philadelphia because of attitude issues.
Speaker 1: And I mean this is a player that almost they
Speaker 1: talked about almost walking away from college football a year ago.
Speaker 1: So I mean, look, the Seahawks have been celebrated for
Speaker 1: seeing things differently in the draft. Um, not that they've
Speaker 1: hit on all, not by their fans lately, but you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But early on that that was
Speaker 1: an early staple of John Schneider was like, they're they're
Speaker 1: gonna zig when you think they're going to go in
Speaker 1: the other direction. And Mayock is proving to be a
Speaker 1: similar and you know, we'll we'll tell. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't really care what people think tonight about it. Um,
Speaker 1: they know a lot more about the player than most
Speaker 1: people that were shocked by the pick. So we'll see.
Speaker 1: In fairness to Chris Carter, he was an addict to
Speaker 1: he's a cocaine user and an alcoholic in those Eagles days.
Speaker 1: Well that he conquered those demons, that's fair, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying it wasn't just like he was a knucklehead.
Speaker 1: He actually had a problem generally, not what you want though,
Speaker 1: I know, I just I thought it was a line
Speaker 1: a line ones like if you're like a Truemayne Johnson
Speaker 1: type guy, that's one type of knucklehead any one is
Speaker 1: if you're actually dealing with some demons. Right to mark point,
Speaker 1: like the the story that he basically stopped showing up,
Speaker 1: you know, to school, but because he probably thought he
Speaker 1: was gonna go pro. But it wasn't really gonna make
Speaker 1: sense last year. Um, that's one way to look at it.
Speaker 1: But by all accounts, like his number one attribute is
Speaker 1: his competitiveness. That he's like a dog. That that DJ
Speaker 1: said that's why he had him as high as he was.
Speaker 1: That he doesn't seem like overly talented, but he's insanely competitive,
Speaker 1: which is seemingly what may I keep taking guys like that?
Speaker 1: Can we bring in Erica a second? Hey, Ricky, this
Speaker 1: is a prime time podcast, so yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: fair to touch on some mature themes here. Yeah. You
Speaker 1: had mentioned in the messaging section of our set up
Speaker 1: here that you're upstairs, neighbors are a little busy, and
Speaker 1: that's a theme connected to this podcast because Mark you
Speaker 1: had a similar thing with your Motel six room. Well,
Speaker 1: that's right. You want to hear about the current situation.
Speaker 1: What's the status right now? Yeah, current situation is. I
Speaker 1: was like, I took my headphones off and I was like,
Speaker 1: what the heck is that? Uh, there's a little bit
Speaker 1: of uh, you know, practice easy with the words here.
Speaker 1: We've got to be safe. So ye, kids listening in
Speaker 1: cars your video is you know a little you thought
Speaker 1: there might have been another little aftershock, like an earthquake, kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I was getting vibrations all the way down here.
Speaker 1: What was the on the Richter scale? What were the
Speaker 1: vibrations it was? It was loud and powerful enough that
Speaker 1: I had to take my headphones off. How long is
Speaker 1: the earthquake? How long was the earthquake going on for
Speaker 1: It's been going for a while. But there's there's a
Speaker 1: couple of questions that I have up in the air.
Speaker 1: It seems seems one sided, so confused. Um, yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: report back if I can get any more information. That
Speaker 1: area of the building known for natural disasters. One sided earthquake,
Speaker 1: but normally it's two sided. But the girlfriend's car hasn't
Speaker 1: been in the garage for a long time, so thanks?
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that an expression or you know, like
Speaker 1: I think they've broke up. I think that the girlfriend
Speaker 1: is no longer in the in the picture, So you say,
Speaker 1: maybe it's just him up there. It just I only
Speaker 1: recognize one voice and there's like no voices, no kind
Speaker 1: of Uh, all right, we'll keep up, Okay. I don't
Speaker 1: miss sharing walls with other people, know what I mean,
Speaker 1: That's one thing I don't miss. There's something to look
Speaker 1: forward to, Ricky, when you get in your thirties. Eventual
Speaker 1: you you will move on, hopefully even before your thirties,
Speaker 1: to a place with your own walls, and you don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about those things anymore because it was annoying.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a roommate. I just I happen
Speaker 1: to live in a building. Yeah. Yeah, it's like Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury's not dealing with this issue. Maybe maybe he would
Speaker 1: be personally, but I mean not through a wall. I
Speaker 1: lived above a bar with a child on Second Avenue.
Speaker 1: That was a bad idea. Well, you know that the
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury thing is still sitting with me a little
Speaker 1: weird that I'm not saying it's like a bad thing
Speaker 1: he took that photo or like had some want to
Speaker 1: take that photo. Here's the only negative. I'm gonna say, Oh,
Speaker 1: what a flex but lift Kingsbury. But it's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know man, and he's wearing his little like versace loafers.
Speaker 1: I want my football coaches with big guts. I want,
Speaker 1: you know, I want him looking like Bruce Arians like
Speaker 1: I haven't slept in seven months and I don't want to.
Speaker 1: You're looking like you're out of a g Q ad
Speaker 1: like g Q, Arizona. We have a better taste in
Speaker 1: interior decoration than other coaches do. I don't want my
Speaker 1: coaches have good taste and interior decoration. Fantass, flat out hot.
Speaker 1: I mean, Kevin Stefanski is just a flat out and
Speaker 1: attractive man. I'll take that over a big tubby guy
Speaker 1: that's rolling around like a big barrel. How about you
Speaker 1: love Freddie Kitchens and he was basically the opposite side
Speaker 1: of this. I like, I'd like to go to a
Speaker 1: bar with Freddie Kitchens. I'm not, I don't. I think
Speaker 1: he hit the Peter principal pretty hard last year. How
Speaker 1: about what do you think of Belichick in his like
Speaker 1: sandals and Nintucket uh Nintucket Beach house that they showed
Speaker 1: him in tonight's but your book with book it to
Speaker 1: trade out of the first round? I mean, was it?
Speaker 1: What were they? What was their plan this evening? I
Speaker 1: just love at least a dozen times you found Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick to be an attractive man. I think that, yes,
Speaker 1: we are. I don't think version but well that's fine.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that in today's world, when we're
Speaker 1: looking at all these younger coaches, Bill Belichick's not doing
Speaker 1: it for me on the hotness scale. Um ago. I
Speaker 1: was like, what Dan wants out of a coach, though,
Speaker 1: And I was just gonna say that, I'm just so
Speaker 1: happy how irrelevant the Patriots are now. But you know,
Speaker 1: now that I'm in my forties, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be petty like that anymore. So I'm not gonna say, oh,
Speaker 1: you crossed that threshold today alone. There's no way this
Speaker 1: could come back to bite you. It is like the
Speaker 1: most classic Patriots thing, though, to trade out of the
Speaker 1: first round in this absolutely we talked about special anymore,
Speaker 1: and well to the point where you know, we were
Speaker 1: all texting the entire none of us when they traded out.
Speaker 1: None of us even texted each other because it's like
Speaker 1: every time, so they have four third round picks. No
Speaker 1: one loves the third round pick. Don't matter anymore. All right,
Speaker 1: Let's move to U the twenties. Uh. The Jacksonville's Jaguars
Speaker 1: take Calaban, chasing out of l s U outside linebacker.
Speaker 1: The Eagles, they do address the wide receiver position, which
Speaker 1: we were all demanding they did. We I think we're
Speaker 1: all starting to get a little annoyed with the Eagles
Speaker 1: do something, get somebody in there to help out, Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: Colleen actually saw the She texted me, and Colleen's getting loose.
Speaker 1: She originally was maybe gonna be involved with today's show,
Speaker 1: but she was getting so loose and enjoying herself after
Speaker 1: a hard day's work. She did a great job um
Speaker 1: in the in the lead up to the draft on
Speaker 1: NFL Network that I was like, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: Connie just relaxed. But she was setting sent in some
Speaker 1: texts during the draft and she she mentioned that she
Speaker 1: thought Ceedee Lamb to the Cowboys was essentially Jared just
Speaker 1: raising two middle fingers the Eagles. Yeah, that it just
Speaker 1: felt like that that checks out to me. So the
Speaker 1: Eagles have to settle for Jalen Reagor, who, by the
Speaker 1: way from TCU is a guy that people seem to
Speaker 1: really like and uh he uh, he's very he's a
Speaker 1: quick receiver. He's a guy that knows how to get
Speaker 1: open and damn it, dis Carson Wentz needed a guy
Speaker 1: that knows how to get open and makes some plays.
Speaker 1: I thought he was maybe the boom er bus guy
Speaker 1: of of of that receiver group. Like if you just
Speaker 1: put his ten best plays together, I think he might
Speaker 1: look like the most explosive player in the draft. His
Speaker 1: return ability was insane, Like his deep ball ability was insane.
Speaker 1: He had like bad quarterbacks around him. But there was
Speaker 1: concerns about whether you know, he was that consistent a worker.
Speaker 1: His hands were a little up and down, like there
Speaker 1: were a little bit of red flags where it looks
Speaker 1: like he's a boomer bust guy. Reminds me a lot
Speaker 1: of de Sean Jackson, except like twenty pounds, bigger and
Speaker 1: can and can jump and go out and get the ball.
Speaker 1: Felt like a swing for the fences type of pick,
Speaker 1: which is what we wanted out of him. The look
Speaker 1: want treadwell season. I think it's a twenty six teen
Speaker 1: draft when they it was right around this time in
Speaker 1: the first round where I think three whiteouts went in
Speaker 1: a row. Uh And I think did any of those
Speaker 1: three guys make it? Does anybody remember that that that class?
Speaker 1: But it was ended up being underwhelming. Uh. So we
Speaker 1: have Reagor goes to the Eagles, and then twenty two
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, the wide out goes to the Vikings, who
Speaker 1: replace Stefon Diggs with a guy that um Lad the
Speaker 1: n C double a um in receptions last season, so
Speaker 1: the Vikings phill a need. And now these two guys
Speaker 1: are linked together and we see we'll find out which
Speaker 1: of these two NFC teams picked the right guy. One
Speaker 1: note those three receivers were will Fuller, Josh Dotson, and Treadwell.
Speaker 1: Two of the three no, thank you good one healthy,
Speaker 1: but the other the other guys have both been cut. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they did not work out anyway, so they both very
Speaker 1: sensible decisions for the Eagles and Viking. Sir. I feel
Speaker 1: like that point about Reager being boom er bust that
Speaker 1: described the whole Eagles wide receiver corps. Then if al
Speaker 1: Shan Jeffrey comes back healthy, if the Sean Jackson is
Speaker 1: not too old, and I forgot j j Arthega Whiteside
Speaker 1: is even on the roster, I mean he looks. It
Speaker 1: was only it was only one year, but it was
Speaker 1: about as bad a year as as you could have.
Speaker 1: Rick Spielman, the Vikings GM sneaky pretty good in the
Speaker 1: draft over the years, as as West mentioned and getting
Speaker 1: Jefferson and people thought he was probably a safer. He
Speaker 1: does a lot of the same things as Adam thieland
Speaker 1: like he's inside. And then they get Gladney, who's who's
Speaker 1: thirty one, who's like a total Mike Zimmer like slot cornerback,
Speaker 1: you know, feisty guy, like great instincts and also seems
Speaker 1: like a safe figure. Like seemed like two guys that
Speaker 1: could play for them right away for a team that
Speaker 1: that's in the mix. I mean, Jefferson had a hundred
Speaker 1: and eleven catches last year, which led the all of
Speaker 1: college football and dominated from the slots. So I like
Speaker 1: to pick for the Vikings at twenty three. That was
Speaker 1: the Patriots spot, and Belichick trades out of it, and
Speaker 1: the Chargers slide in and take Kenneth Murray, an inside
Speaker 1: linebacker round of Oklahoma. The Charges couldn't stop anybody on
Speaker 1: the ground last year, so this is hoping to address
Speaker 1: any there. Murray, that is a UM area of expertise. Uh,
Speaker 1: and Greg, are you okay with the Pets moving out
Speaker 1: and doing the Pets thing? Or was this a year
Speaker 1: maybe you would have liked to see them be more
Speaker 1: aggressive in this round. No. I like them doing what
Speaker 1: they've always done because it's just, I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: they do. They they got they have four third round
Speaker 1: picks and they have but two do they have a
Speaker 1: second round? I think they have fourth third round picks,
Speaker 1: two or three fourth round picks in the second round pick.
Speaker 1: It's like that's what they'll do. They you knew there was.
Speaker 1: It was like a giveaway with later someone on someone
Speaker 1: on the telecast said like, and they think they're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to take the same guy they would take
Speaker 1: at thirty seven, that they were gonna take a twenty three.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna take some random dude no one's ever
Speaker 1: heard of it. They might as well take him at
Speaker 1: thirty seven. Ricky, how you feeling after all a traumatic
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of weeks or a month or
Speaker 1: so for Patriots fans, and now you don't even get
Speaker 1: a shiny toy under the Christmas tree. Get him tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I mean they moved down fourteen spots, alright, I want
Speaker 1: to hear I know she's muted right now, so I'm
Speaker 1: just buying time time. It was. It was exactly what
Speaker 1: Greg said, like I rolled my eyes when it happened,
Speaker 1: but I would have. I don't know, I thought maybe
Speaker 1: it's something crazy would happened. It's not just all the
Speaker 1: players in New England, her brain washed. Look at the
Speaker 1: fans to building a nice job. I mean, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna give we want, and we didn't want the first
Speaker 1: round pick. I wonder if they wanted Jefferson that did
Speaker 1: number one thirty seven better than pick three. If there's
Speaker 1: a guy that you would just trust what's going on
Speaker 1: and not really worry about it, why not? What the
Speaker 1: hell do I know? Logan Maintenance was literally the least
Speaker 1: popular pick any they've ever made. Light round better than
Speaker 1: first round. Love, it was an impression. Um, all right?
Speaker 1: Moving on by Rocky Saints. Take Caesar Ruiz a center
Speaker 1: out of Michigan. Nice job. They're the Niners, uh from
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings take well, you know that we talked
Speaker 1: about the Saints. They didn't they don't have a glaring hole.
Speaker 1: So they go and they get like a workman like
Speaker 1: center that I guess gives them depth. And I think
Speaker 1: they've got a trade or cut Larry Warford, who made
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl last year. It shows you how worthless
Speaker 1: the Pro boys. He's what a free agent after this season?
Speaker 1: He has a twelve million dollar cap figure. And apparently
Speaker 1: they weren't. They weren't thrilled with him. M okay. The Niners.
Speaker 1: Uh they trade up to is that correct? Yep? They
Speaker 1: take Brandon Ayouk from Arizona State, a wide receiver. Uh.
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on that, gentleman before I get to the Yeah,
Speaker 1: we touched on him, okay. And then the late pick
Speaker 1: the draft, that kind of uh, you know, got everybody titilated.
Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers with the pick in the draft
Speaker 1: they trade up to take Jordan's love quarterback. You tass
Speaker 1: state and we talked about Jordan's love Uh in the
Speaker 1: past couple of weeks. The onions on this guy. He
Speaker 1: makes the decision. It's the first time this has ever happened,
Speaker 1: a decision made with the post Aaron Rodgers Green Bay
Speaker 1: Packers in mind. Isn't it funny how life works? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I went through all the cliches, like the tables have
Speaker 1: turned the shoes on the other foot. What goes around
Speaker 1: comes around. What's good for the goose is good for
Speaker 1: the gander spider Man meme. But Rogers got farmed, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm thinking father Time is a b I mean,
Speaker 1: not just for Rogers, but the fact that I thought
Speaker 1: I was a young man when all that happened with
Speaker 1: with far Van Rodgers and now it's happening to the
Speaker 1: same guy in the other way around. To me, it's
Speaker 1: like classic Greek theater, like this empest that Rodgers is under.
Speaker 1: Now it's happening to Rogers later in his career. Then
Speaker 1: it happened when it was far far was thirty five
Speaker 1: when Rodgers came aboard, and uh and Aaron Rodger. It
Speaker 1: is wild. I think that there is one difference here
Speaker 1: that far Of with threatening retirement at that age, and
Speaker 1: Rodgers doesn't want anything to do with that. This is
Speaker 1: his team, Well, what is the what is the plan here?
Speaker 1: I it just feels like an incredibly disruptive um pull
Speaker 1: of the trigger. If you're if you've got a quarterback
Speaker 1: very Aaron Rodgers is like nothing if not a little quirky.
Speaker 1: I mean, this does not feel like the guy that's
Speaker 1: gonna know. We don't know, but it's not the first
Speaker 1: guy I'd pick in the power rankings of like coddling
Speaker 1: number one quarterback who wants to embrace um young quarterback
Speaker 1: who has just been drafted in the first round after
Speaker 1: the team traded up for him. I mean, Rogers put
Speaker 1: put Brett Farve on blast in a way and made
Speaker 1: it known that Farv was not very good dude due
Speaker 1: to him. So let's see what kind of integrity Rogers
Speaker 1: has now, because we'll find out. It will leak if
Speaker 1: this is not a good relationship between these two guys.
Speaker 1: But then from Roger in defensive Rodgers, I hate it.
Speaker 1: I mean I hated it on Aaron Rodgers, Like you
Speaker 1: gave me this huge contract. You you bring in this
Speaker 1: coach that's gonna help me get back to the way
Speaker 1: I was. You get we get to the NFC title game,
Speaker 1: it's clear that we we need some pieces. And then
Speaker 1: instead of using your first round pick on uh something
Speaker 1: that improves the roster in you take my replacement, Like
Speaker 1: I get why he would be super mad, Like it
Speaker 1: made me think of the better call Soffin Alley. Spoiler
Speaker 1: alert ahead when Lalo sees that his aboleto was a
Speaker 1: gun down in the compound raid and you just see
Speaker 1: him angrily stock off screen. As the season ends, Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers is furious right now, and he and you know,
Speaker 1: all the Beat guys are trying to get in touch
Speaker 1: with him, and they want something on the record, and
Speaker 1: maybe he says the right thing. Maybe he says nothing
Speaker 1: at all, but he is furious and I totally get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta get Bob mcgin back on the phone because
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear his thoughts. I mean, we're gonna
Speaker 1: talked to Bob for twenty minutes about Rogers. He wanted
Speaker 1: to have said anything, he um, he didn't. They didn't
Speaker 1: just you know, draft Rodgers replacement, like because he because
Speaker 1: he fell to him. They traded up for him, traded up.
Speaker 1: They gave up a mid round pick in this year's
Speaker 1: draft to go get him. And they didn't just take anyone.
Speaker 1: They took the only guy in the last couple of
Speaker 1: drafts that can go on the field and maybe throw
Speaker 1: the ball as well as Aaron Rodgers at least it's
Speaker 1: hard like who has maybe just like Aaron Rodgers compared
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers would have been the only guy when Brett
Speaker 1: Favre was around that could have come in and actually
Speaker 1: been a physical match for him. Jordan's love is nothing
Speaker 1: if not like a physical freak. I think he's got
Speaker 1: a lot more red flags than Mahomes. Did you know
Speaker 1: coming into the or Rogers did coming into the league
Speaker 1: in terms of decision making and accuracy and all that,
Speaker 1: but like his arm and his athleticism are outrageous, and
Speaker 1: you know, you know it's gonna make Rogers up his game.
Speaker 1: And he's he's has a lot of guaranteed money in
Speaker 1: the next couple of years in terms of like they
Speaker 1: can't really get rid of He's gotta be there for
Speaker 1: two more years and then and then it gets crazy. Dan,
Speaker 1: you said that you would have hated this if you
Speaker 1: were Rogers, but you're the first person I thought of.
Speaker 1: This is the kind of this is the kind of
Speaker 1: drama that you can really enjoy. So and enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick my teeth into this first. It's your
Speaker 1: birthday present from the Packers, and it's so much fun.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I love about sports, but especially
Speaker 1: covering the NFL on a daily basis that it's all
Speaker 1: soap opera and the draft is a huge payoff. It's
Speaker 1: like a season finale in its own way. And this
Speaker 1: is this is crazy and Jordan's love. I woonder if
Speaker 1: Jordan's love is kind of bummed out right now, because
Speaker 1: not only is he the Packers are a great organization,
Speaker 1: but you're playing in Wisconsin. Uh, it's cold all the
Speaker 1: time and dark and you're he's coming from youth, so
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, your teammate. Your teammate is Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: one of the greatest quarterbacks ever, but a well known
Speaker 1: kind of prickly personality who might be very unhappy about
Speaker 1: the situation. And on top of it, Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 1: not going anywhere anytime soon, so there's a very good
Speaker 1: chance you could end up getting red shirted for at
Speaker 1: least two seasons. So that's that doesn't seem like a
Speaker 1: great situation for the kid that said that. I mean,
Speaker 1: they always use Aaron Rodgers as the example of someone
Speaker 1: that was helped by sitting for a little while he
Speaker 1: just stuck behind. I'm just saying, I mean, you could
Speaker 1: look at Patrick Mahomes and say, if it's two years,
Speaker 1: that feels like a long time. But if if this
Speaker 1: thing progresses quickly, more quickly, but it's one season or two,
Speaker 1: and you know, he has a chance to learn, because
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a totally finished product based on
Speaker 1: what they say about him. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: hate that for for love, but it is a weird
Speaker 1: It's just the dynamic. The Packers created something that they
Speaker 1: did not need to create. They must love this guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, I find it amazingly dramatic and in station
Speaker 1: from that angle, I love it. I think they must have.
Speaker 1: I thought the same thing as you, Dan, and they
Speaker 1: had Jordan's love on ESPN after its Actually he seemed delated,
Speaker 1: so he didn't he didn't betray any um anxiety about it.
Speaker 1: He seemed delated to be with them and to learn
Speaker 1: from And he probably is a guy like it really
Speaker 1: was a luxury pick and like a rare opportunity that
Speaker 1: they must have thought, because he seems like a guy
Speaker 1: who if he's going to have any chance to take
Speaker 1: advantage of all that skills, like he really can't. He
Speaker 1: really does need to sit for a while. So it's
Speaker 1: great for him. And you know, maybe maybe to your
Speaker 1: theory about Rogers in the eye of the Tiger, who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe they're trying to stoke the fire. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: I like that. I kind of doubt that though based
Speaker 1: on his reputation, you know, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: it wasn't expensive. It's an expensive way to go. I
Speaker 1: mean that if that's what they're trying to do, they're
Speaker 1: other ways to get there. I mean, we've now reached
Speaker 1: the world where we need need to check in on
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers contract. See how much is how many more
Speaker 1: years a guaranteed? When they can get out of the deal.
Speaker 1: We are we have entered that phase now of his
Speaker 1: career in Green Bay. Uh and we'll see how it
Speaker 1: plays out. You know, the beat writers love it. They
Speaker 1: are I'm looking at Rob uh Domovski of PFPN. Now
Speaker 1: Rogers will have to decide whether he will freeze out
Speaker 1: love or help him. I do want to throw. Someone
Speaker 1: actually asked him in the lead up to the draft
Speaker 1: on his normal radio show, what would you do if
Speaker 1: if they took a first round pick? And he gave
Speaker 1: the perfect answer. He's like, well, of course, you you know,
Speaker 1: you'd rather you know, you'd like to see the mad
Speaker 1: but I would welcome, welcome anyone to the build him
Speaker 1: and help him out and whatever. Roger Roger said that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's on the record. It's about a quarterback he did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was kind of amazing. I think it was Jason Wildy.
Speaker 1: I hope I'm not wrong who tweeted it out. But
Speaker 1: he had a long quote on on a radio show
Speaker 1: from from April talking about this exact scenario I love
Speaker 1: it as a Green Bay Packers ford field sixty five
Speaker 1: yard hail Mary to get Aaron Rodgers is either tiger
Speaker 1: back taking quarterback late in the first round. Oh, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be great. All right, let's finish up the
Speaker 1: first round. Jordan's Brooks, inside linebacker round of Texas Techos
Speaker 1: of the Seahawks at seven at twenty eight. Also, I
Speaker 1: wonder if the Packers needed to trade up to get
Speaker 1: Jordan's love. I guess we'll never know. At the Ravens
Speaker 1: take Patrick Queen, inside linebacker at of L s U.
Speaker 1: I feel like L s U. There's like fourteen guys
Speaker 1: drafted out of Alabama and L s u uh. At
Speaker 1: twenty nine the tight Titans. Titans take Isaiah Wilson, a
Speaker 1: tackle out of Georgia. Any thoughts on those picks, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: I think the Patrick Queen and I I anyone on
Speaker 1: defense at the Ravens drafted, I would just ticket for
Speaker 1: a rookie Pro Bowl year. Um. I think they're absolutely
Speaker 1: delighted that Patrick Queen felt to them. I had them
Speaker 1: taking a different linebacker in my mock, um, because I
Speaker 1: think it's a position of need and I just I
Speaker 1: can't think of a team in the league that I
Speaker 1: trust more to oh young players on defense. They do
Speaker 1: it over and over. So it's a great landing spot
Speaker 1: for Patrick Queen. I love that the Seahawks always take
Speaker 1: a guy that that their fans and no one else
Speaker 1: has ever heard of. I think in the first round,
Speaker 1: like it's the seven pick, it's the Seahawks taking some
Speaker 1: guy you don't know. At thirty, the Dolphins take a cornerback.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for it. Noahg Big Nogene nailed it.
Speaker 1: A cornerback out of an Auburn. The Vikings take a cornerback.
Speaker 1: Jeff Gladney touched on both of those guys, and then
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the final pick of Oh, if we
Speaker 1: were doing sandwiches, uh in this one, this would have
Speaker 1: killed anybody who said no running back. It's taken in
Speaker 1: the first round because they take Clyde Edwards Hilaire at
Speaker 1: an l s U again. Uh, so they have you know,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have some death back. They're running back, but
Speaker 1: maybe they needed a more dynamic guy that took place
Speaker 1: behind Patrick Mahomes. Uh. He joins the crew of Damian
Speaker 1: William Starry, Williams, DeAndre Washington Darwin Thompson. So we'll see
Speaker 1: how all that shakes out. But you know it's a
Speaker 1: first round pick. Clyde the Glide is gonna get some run.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are scary. I think the rest of the
Speaker 1: a f C. You're already checking under your bed for
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid before you turn out the
Speaker 1: lights at night. And now you get a guy who
Speaker 1: looks like some unholy mash up of darren Sproles and
Speaker 1: priest Homes. All they talk about is a receiving ability
Speaker 1: and he led the sec enforced Smith tackles and yards
Speaker 1: after contact as a rusher and fifteen out of the
Speaker 1: thirty two picks where sec I mean that that conference
Speaker 1: was loaded. He he was like an incredible, as you said, receiver.
Speaker 1: He's immediately gonna be one of the higher ranked fantasy
Speaker 1: football prospect, Like he's gonna be a top thirty fantasy
Speaker 1: pick at least, if not like a top fifteen or twenty,
Speaker 1: because he's gonna be a Chiefs running back that catches
Speaker 1: seventy passes. Like it seems like such a safe uh
Speaker 1: pick by the Chiefs. That was one of my Round
Speaker 1: one take of ways that these a f C West.
Speaker 1: It's I'm so happy to hear every The kind of
Speaker 1: party line now is how are these teams in the
Speaker 1: a f C West, How are they gonna try to
Speaker 1: keep up and close the distance on the Chiefs. It
Speaker 1: used to be the Patriots or twenty years and that
Speaker 1: was very annoying thing to hear all the time. Now
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are that team that are the superpower, the champion,
Speaker 1: and the Chargers go get a quarterback they hope turns
Speaker 1: into a star at six, the Raiders get a wide
Speaker 1: receiver with their first pick uh in Rugs, and then
Speaker 1: the Broncos get Jerry Judy. So there's an idea here
Speaker 1: that we're we're the only chance we have to beat
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. The way they're set up right now is
Speaker 1: to score points, and we have a better chance of
Speaker 1: just getting the shootouts than trying to draft guys to
Speaker 1: stop what might be an unstoppable offense. Doesn't it remind
Speaker 1: you of the Bill Polian Colts with Peyton Manning, where
Speaker 1: they just keep loading up on offense every year, like
Speaker 1: let's just keep adding to strength, and this is Joseph
Speaker 1: and Die, you know, like maybe it's not gonna like
Speaker 1: wow you but he's gonna just be racking up yards
Speaker 1: and catches. They're going to be insane, alright, Mark. So
Speaker 1: that's the first round and we're going to go through
Speaker 1: the rest of the draft on Saturday night. UH. Your
Speaker 1: mock draft. We've been talking about this last year. Uh
Speaker 1: I called a soft launch last year's mock draft. Our
Speaker 1: goal here is to build you into a an industry
Speaker 1: mainstay in this realm, a superpower, a guy that maybe
Speaker 1: just maybe we could spin off and maybe break off
Speaker 1: on our own and have maybe our own kind of website,
Speaker 1: and then you would have a whole section of the
Speaker 1: website as the draft insider, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: we kind of have a portfolio for our website. UM.
Speaker 1: So this was the big year you and I think
Speaker 1: that I think that you had a really good uh
Speaker 1: year two. I I think it was great. The goal
Speaker 1: was nine, and we came very close to nine out
Speaker 1: of thirty two. Yeah, I mean after pick eighteen I
Speaker 1: had eight and I was feeling good. Um, although I
Speaker 1: will admit that, UM, when you get past eighteen or
Speaker 1: you know, you're dealing with the back end of the
Speaker 1: these mocks. UM, I couldn't have picked half of these
Speaker 1: people out of the lineup, but at the same time
Speaker 1: you felt like you just had to hit one more. Uh.
Speaker 1: I would say this last year, I believe I got
Speaker 1: two two right, which was absurd. I believe that's what
Speaker 1: it was. That it was that that. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: correctly predicting who's going to go in the first round,
Speaker 1: but right now with the right team. So here's the
Speaker 1: way I view it. I went from two to eight. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's a two times four is eight. Uh. And I'll
Speaker 1: help you out with the math here. So next year
Speaker 1: eight times four is thirty two. So next year is
Speaker 1: going to be absolute gold fever. Um, but perfect well
Speaker 1: that might not be. Yeah, I'm saying, you know, if if, if,
Speaker 1: We're gonna exactly exactly. So it's like, you know, the
Speaker 1: future is bright. This is not a two year project
Speaker 1: like you said, Um, this is going to become its
Speaker 1: own uh, you know, money making cottage industry inside this
Speaker 1: Sessler household. So here we are we needed growth in
Speaker 1: year two, We got it. Are we are we certain
Speaker 1: the mock Draft is gonna come back as a podcast
Speaker 1: next year at this point, No, we're not sure. But
Speaker 1: will your mock Draft red term yes, it will. Does
Speaker 1: this is gonna keep getting its own episode? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but well I would say there's a strong read, you know,
Speaker 1: if I have any any say in how the show
Speaker 1: has run at all, it will be returning this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Gronk retired and upstage. But if you want to we
Speaker 1: said nine things, correct, I mean, I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to pull one of these old Sandwich tricks where
Speaker 1: I'm trying to convince you that I got nine because
Speaker 1: I got an awesome this year. This was a great year.
Speaker 1: You throw in Gronk, that's nine. I'm nix and it's
Speaker 1: just going to tell you that. But it is eight
Speaker 1: in terms of the draft. And I have to work on,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe doing a little bit more homework where
Speaker 1: I don't fall totally off a cliff over the last
Speaker 1: what was it thirteen picks of round one where you
Speaker 1: know I went over thirteen for yourself, congratulations, just gave
Speaker 1: yourself more work next well and outer space somewhere. I
Speaker 1: and I've not done this homework, but i'd like to.
Speaker 1: I just and I you know, I'm not competing with
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah necessarily, but I just like to see I'd
Speaker 1: like just to know. I mean, maybe he blew everyone
Speaker 1: out of the water. How many did he get? Right?
Speaker 1: How did how did DJ do? Did you tabulate that
Speaker 1: I was looking at it, um and I don't know
Speaker 1: the answer? Oh? Cool, thank you. I actually, you know,
Speaker 1: I did debate about an hour and a half ago
Speaker 1: asking I was like, is that something that a producer
Speaker 1: if like the podcast, asked this producer to see how
Speaker 1: DJ did? And then I was like, no, she's gonna
Speaker 1: think I'm so I'm not going to ask her to
Speaker 1: do it. But then maybe she surprised me and maybe
Speaker 1: she will have done it. But you didn't. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's your birthday. I wasn't going to look
Speaker 1: at DJ's work. I would never do that to a
Speaker 1: great I'm not necessarily looking to cook up another feud
Speaker 1: with a with a co worker at this point either.
Speaker 1: I would maybe, you know, tap the brakes on that
Speaker 1: for a bit because I think it might ultimately have
Speaker 1: a negative impact on my scenario here at NFL Network.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I just did it. I just did
Speaker 1: it while you were yapping. He got seven? Right? Oh,
Speaker 1: unless you know, I mean, well, there's a margin for
Speaker 1: error here. I do you know I quickly look, but
Speaker 1: I think he got seven. Yeah, I don't know what
Speaker 1: to tell you. I mean I dunk on Jeremiah. Actually
Speaker 1: that's because I feel like that would be maybe a
Speaker 1: bridge too far. Well, and I would I would please
Speaker 1: ask the listeners maybe don't do that either. I don't
Speaker 1: listeners settle down with you know, hitting DJ with this,
Speaker 1: or don't include don't at me in it bridge too far?
Speaker 1: I feel like him taking down you know, he just
Speaker 1: tried to take down your wardrobe on television last week.
Speaker 1: That's a lot more personal in some mock drafts. Go
Speaker 1: for it, I know, but you know, you look how
Speaker 1: he dresses, and it's like, do I need to fire
Speaker 1: back of the guy A dresses like he's at Sunday
Speaker 1: service every day. I'm not going to do that. Look
Speaker 1: how'm mature you are at you are really a changed
Speaker 1: man exactly. I'm not gonna do that. Um all right,
Speaker 1: Any final thoughts, I would say this, I think I
Speaker 1: know that round one is you know, there's no there's
Speaker 1: no slowing the hoop blot train on on round one.
Speaker 1: I think day two is always more interesting. Round two,
Speaker 1: at least is always more interesting for me. I think
Speaker 1: that they're in Also, so many, so many great players,
Speaker 1: like come out of round two. You know that that
Speaker 1: we that we may not know that well today, but
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb came in round two. Who would have known
Speaker 1: what you're getting out of that kind it's a great day.
Speaker 1: Those are the moves that really good teams like the Jets,
Speaker 1: for instance, haven't had an All Pro drafted in the
Speaker 1: second round since Mark Gastineau. Teams that are run well, uh,
Speaker 1: that's where they really score because you're not paying them
Speaker 1: even at the top level of the rookie scale, and
Speaker 1: you got them under your team control and they're a
Speaker 1: huge impact of your team. That's how you do it,
Speaker 1: and that's what I guess that's the bell check thing.
Speaker 1: I like to approach the draft by pairing it with
Speaker 1: free agency and seeing which franchises might be transformed and
Speaker 1: the off seasons that I'm really enjoying the Buccaneers, Chargers, Cardinals, Bengals, Broncos.
Speaker 1: To me, you all look like five franchises. It could
Speaker 1: be so much better in a year. And then I
Speaker 1: love what the forty Niners and Chiefs have done coming
Speaker 1: off the Super Bowl to like, yeah, you you lose
Speaker 1: the Forest Buckner, but you replace him with with Ken Law.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like both those teams have done
Speaker 1: such a good job of not losing too much. They
Speaker 1: haven't lost any ground on the competition. Really. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: this Friday of the draft in Saturday, to some extent
Speaker 1: is I think saucier than normal because the running backs
Speaker 1: and the receivers, which you know ultimately guys like us
Speaker 1: are following a little bit more in the fantasy guys.
Speaker 1: It's it's a great group of guys still left. Like
Speaker 1: I I watched these running backs. I swear this running
Speaker 1: back class is awesome. Like it if these running backs
Speaker 1: were in the draft fifteen years ago, there'll be four
Speaker 1: or five first rounders. It's just like a different way
Speaker 1: to look at the league. But then you look back
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago and Cook Kamara, you know, Connor,
Speaker 1: who am I forgetting? Someone else went in the middle
Speaker 1: round to that, like in the second, third, and fourth round,
Speaker 1: and they're all like Joe Mixon is another one I'm
Speaker 1: thinking of, like all in that draft and they're all
Speaker 1: stars and cam Akers. I think you could throw in
Speaker 1: that mix Jonathan Taylor, maybe j K. Dobbins. I like
Speaker 1: a lot, and like these are guys who will step
Speaker 1: in right away and be factors. And there's a ton
Speaker 1: of receivers out there too, so it seems like it's
Speaker 1: a more fun Friday than normal. Yep. A few things
Speaker 1: I loved Roger Goodell's black Denham jeans. Oh yeah, nice
Speaker 1: and casual in the basement, comfortable. He was tick talking
Speaker 1: with with Judy by the way, so nice. Um I liked?
Speaker 1: What else? Did I like? Sanders and the little COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen intro. He promised everything was gonna be okay. He's
Speaker 1: like everyone did, Everything's gonna be okay. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I noticed that he said okay. I think he said
Speaker 1: I promise you. He didn't say that was like a
Speaker 1: football field of a backyard behind them, And I just thought, like,
Speaker 1: how many bill I watching this? Like, yeah, it's fine
Speaker 1: with it if you got a football field behind you
Speaker 1: that he like? I At first I had a lot
Speaker 1: of like consternation and concerned about the future of mankind
Speaker 1: and and what's gonna happen next? But then Dion Sanders
Speaker 1: promised me everything was gonna be okay. So now, well
Speaker 1: you're happy about that? So that was another birthday gift leadership.
Speaker 1: And I like this quote from New Jets left tackle
Speaker 1: McKay Beckton. I've never been to New York. I know
Speaker 1: the Jets had Brett Farve in the past. I know
Speaker 1: they had the Damian Tomlinson in the past. Jets legends
Speaker 1: Brett Farvell. I hate to say it, but for like
Speaker 1: a twenty one year old day and that that that's
Speaker 1: what they know. That's even like a youngster Brett far
Speaker 1: Like most people that blink forgot about the Brett far
Speaker 1: New York Jet season, but it's on his radar. Good
Speaker 1: for him, all right, I mentioned the Dion thing. I'm
Speaker 1: really feeling good. Yes you you brought that up. Let
Speaker 1: me be promised, white Beard. Feel like we should we
Speaker 1: should give a little love to the Bengals that they
Speaker 1: got there. I know, we we just went past and
Speaker 1: we kind of knew they're going to get Joe. But
Speaker 1: good job, good job Bengals. I mean, you just got
Speaker 1: a guy who's about as uh. If someone can inspire
Speaker 1: some confidence in the Cincinnati faithful in that organization, Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow seems like that guy. And good for you guys,
Speaker 1: because when the internet was dunking on Dave gentleman for
Speaker 1: putting on a mask as the ESPN went to break.
Speaker 1: At one point, I thought you guys would bring that
Speaker 1: up and make fun of him. But you know what,
Speaker 1: he's sixty nine years old. And here was his quote
Speaker 1: quote when I asked about it. Well, I have a
Speaker 1: young I T fellow over here with me and we're
Speaker 1: social distancing. Part of it is the mask. I'm fine,
Speaker 1: by the way, like what you removed from cancer. A
Speaker 1: few precautions get him, and I applaud that. In the
Speaker 1: Becoming Tired Les thrown a compliment at Gettleman in a
Speaker 1: big spot. I've complimented get him in a lot over
Speaker 1: the years. It's not until he decided to run the
Speaker 1: Giants like they were in nineteen forty eight team that
Speaker 1: I right he was a podcast favorite, let's be honest.
Speaker 1: Was that he became the boss of the Giants. I
Speaker 1: think when he came in and lied about Eli that
Speaker 1: he hasn't lost a step and he's every bit as
Speaker 1: good as he's always been. That really got him on
Speaker 1: my bedside, all right. I like the beginning part of
Speaker 1: the Gettleman conversation there. You're right, though, West I forgot
Speaker 1: he's a cancer survivor, so even more so, how are you,
Speaker 1: by the way, you had to check out recently I did.
Speaker 1: I've got another one coming up very soon. So so far,
Speaker 1: so good. All my scans have been clean and I
Speaker 1: feel good, beautiful. The mobility she's she's starting to feel
Speaker 1: she's entered a new stage where she's not like she's
Speaker 1: not enjoying her body as much as she did, you know,
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. It's starting she's been She's a
Speaker 1: lot more fatigued. She just feels heavy, you know, you
Speaker 1: know how it is at the end, like Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: when he was getting pressure under the end of his career,
Speaker 1: just dropping down. She she has a different walking style
Speaker 1: now by necessity. Well she you're about a month away, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, and she has a human inside of her
Speaker 1: her body that's almost six pounds now that yeah, that's
Speaker 1: it's a lot to deal with, all right. This pod
Speaker 1: will stand tomorrow, so you'll have plenty of time to
Speaker 1: take it all in, and then we'll be back Saturday
Speaker 1: evening when round seven is complete, and we will recap
Speaker 1: the whole damn thing and also um share some winners
Speaker 1: and losers. So exciting, Dan, I want to play something
Speaker 1: for you. But before we get out of here, all right,
Speaker 1: who's this you'll see? Who? Say? Happy birthdays from beautiful
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Speaker 1: I hope that you and the rest of the heroes
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Speaker 1: The biggest Go Hawks, Danny boy, Happy birthday, buddy. I
Speaker 1: just want to send a very special happy birthday shout
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Speaker 1: I'm wishing you peace and prosperity in there to come. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I wish happiness to you you and your family doing
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Speaker 1: everything you do. You bring joining so many people's lives
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Speaker 1: are a wonderful time, intelligent, funny, handsome human being and
Speaker 1: I feel very lucky to know you into work with
Speaker 1: you over the years. I hope you have a great
Speaker 1: day and I'll see you soon. It's done well, none
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Speaker 1: suck Now you're gonna make me cry. You make me
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Speaker 1: That was so nice. Thank you Erica for putting that together.
Speaker 1: And thank you and know you were just a few.
Speaker 1: I mean that the amount that was sent in, Dan,
Speaker 1: it's overwhelming. You are You're such a special guy. And
Speaker 1: those the females were actual listeners, not hired talent. Yeah no,
Speaker 1: I didn't hire love. We love our female listeners and
Speaker 1: all the blokes out there as well. That that was
Speaker 1: so nice, So thank you for that. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: And I'm very happy to be doing what I do
Speaker 1: and being alive. And that is true. I did look
Speaker 1: it up. Actually, the male life expectancy is seventy nine.
Speaker 1: So I love seeing so many different looks and accents.
Speaker 1: I mean, what a wide variety we have as listeners.
Speaker 1: Interesting people. I love seeing. Zach Goldman are our former producers. Look,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's on a whole another one. It
Speaker 1: was America not even threatened. Letting him be on that
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Speaker 1: Sydney also sent in a greedy all right, thank thank
Speaker 1: you for that. Thank you to all the listeners, and
Speaker 1: thank you to everyone for listening. And we'll be back
Speaker 1: on Saturday. And I'm gonna drink this Tito's right now
Speaker 1: in honor of all you find people, including my podcast mates,
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