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Speaker 1: Everyone Knows a Hero dot Com. Let's get to the

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Speaker 1: Round one recap be Around the NFL Podcast. He's just

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Speaker 1: trying to get some airtime. Welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hans

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Speaker 1: is coming to the City Build with Heroes and Bunker's

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Speaker 1: and prime Time. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, Greg Rosval, What

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Speaker 1: is up? Boys? Hey? Damn? Oh night one in the books.

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Speaker 1: We're taping this around It's just before ten pm, and

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Speaker 1: I was trying to remind myself not to like scream

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Speaker 1: my sleeping children are are only about away. And then

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Speaker 1: I started the show by going, oh, what is the

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Speaker 1: what is the wall situation there? How thick of the

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Speaker 1: walls or is it a real concern? Right now? It's

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Speaker 1: a bit of a concern because I will not be

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Speaker 1: a popular man um you know, with my wife if

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Speaker 1: I wake up the kids that gets backed around. Maybe yeah,

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Speaker 1: the lighting makes Greg look dangerous. He does he looks

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Speaker 1: some I like to look Greg, I like to look

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Speaker 1: you look. Um. I don't know how to describe it. It

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Speaker 1: It looks a tad sinister. Yes, we are coming to you.

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Speaker 1: About twenty or so minutes after the conclusion of round

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Speaker 1: one of the two NFL Draft, the Virtual Draft, and uh,

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Speaker 1: despite all of the concerns, it went off extremely smoothly.

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Speaker 1: I you know, I watched the whole thing. I maybe

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Speaker 1: missed the last pick when I was starting to get

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Speaker 1: set up here in the garage, but it didn't seem

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Speaker 1: like there were any real hiccups in the broadcast, and

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Speaker 1: that that is a credit to everyone that work to

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Speaker 1: make this thing happened. And I actually even thought, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into a reaction to obviously all the

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Speaker 1: picks and takeaways from night one, when we didn't have

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Speaker 1: a trade in the first ten picks or so, I

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Speaker 1: was curious, like a lot of people. I'm sure if

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Speaker 1: that was directly connected to fears connected to the connectivity

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Speaker 1: of this event. But then the trade started fast and furious.

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Speaker 1: After that outgoes that theory. Yeah, I thought Lindsay Rhodes

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Speaker 1: put it well. It felt more intimate and less commercial

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Speaker 1: and less massive. To me, it felt like football before

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Speaker 1: instant replay, where you can actually get some momentum going

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Speaker 1: and there's no stops for like, you know, whatever productions

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Speaker 1: they have planned that night. I kind of like the

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Speaker 1: way it moved. Yeah, there was a period where I

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Speaker 1: thought that we might be doing this show at maybe

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Speaker 1: you know, five pm Pacific, because it was really rolling

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Speaker 1: there out of the gate, because they went eighteen minutes

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Speaker 1: past the start of the draft and then started a

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Speaker 1: ten minute clock on Joe Burrow, who had been connected

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Speaker 1: to go to the Bangals for about you know, three

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Speaker 1: months now. Yeah, I was a little concert. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, Dan, we were texting back and forth. I

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Speaker 1: think there was some general concern about, um, what the

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Speaker 1: you know, it caught fire, and Dan, I mean, we

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Speaker 1: got it. We're burying the lead here. It is your birthday, um,

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Speaker 1: and you're no longer in your thirties, and I know

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Speaker 1: that's been a big a point of you know, contention

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Speaker 1: with the rest of us. Were all so much older

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Speaker 1: than you. Um, you're officially uh in our decade now,

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Speaker 1: in our in our time in life. But we wish

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Speaker 1: you happy birthday. It will be like a tough seven

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Speaker 1: or eight months before you guys hit your fifties. Uh,

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Speaker 1: have a chance. The Santa Ana winds were blown in

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Speaker 1: Well plus all, Joe Douglas wrapped up a nice three

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Speaker 1: no funny business pick from our teams that are usually

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Speaker 1: subjects of ridicule. Hard to get down on either team

430
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Speaker 1: from making the moves they made here. Yeah, And I

431
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 1: reached out to Nick Shook, who I really think is

432
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: one of the better um in our sphere, better evaluators

433
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,959
Speaker 1: of offensive line play, does a lot of work on that.

434
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,959
Speaker 1: He's written a lot of columns for NFL dot Com

435
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 1: up offensive lineman. If it came to it, he could,

436
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 1: I mean he he probably could step in and play

437
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 1: for a couple of these teams. I mean I asked him,

438
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,959
Speaker 1: were you surprised that they went with Will's over you know,

439
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 1: the other two or three options there, and he said

440
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: it was his favorite of all of them. Um, you

441
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 1: know which you know, I think that they were. They're

442
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: all jumbled together, and it probably depends on what type

443
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Speaker 1: of line play or what type of offense you want. Um.

444
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Speaker 1: But Kevin Stefanski of the Browns also just remarked that

445
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 1: he thought that Wills was a perfect um scheme fit

446
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: for the kind of uh offense that they want to

447
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 1: they want to run. And so I think the Browns

448
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 1: are happy. And then you look at what the Jets did,

449
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: and I mean they Greg mentioned it. They got a

450
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Speaker 1: gigantic BMF and I they needed it. And so you know,

451
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Speaker 1: sometimes with the draft, like you want you want ceedee Lamb,

452
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 1: you want you want all these other guys that maybe

453
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: fit the profile of like a super sexy like draft

454
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Speaker 1: day pick. But uh, the line, if these linemen work out,

455
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: they've solved immense problems for both teams. He's six seven

456
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Speaker 1: three and sixty four pounds and at the combine that's

457
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: like three of Greg and me put together. At the

458
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: combine he ran a like a five one uh And

459
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Speaker 1: I thought Connor Hughes of the athletic how a tweet

460
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: that got me excited. Beckton doesn't have the potential to

461
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: be good. He has the potential to be an all

462
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: world player. You don't find guys that big with that

463
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: kind of athleticism. There's a little bit of risk. He

464
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: got flagged for a drug test um of some kind

465
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Speaker 1: at the combine, which you know that is on my

466
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Speaker 1: radar a little bit. That all depends what kind of drug.

467
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's right, that's variety of options. It was

468
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Speaker 1: the one. It was the drug that's legal here in California.

469
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Speaker 1: So I don't think people were too worried. You're talking

470
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Speaker 1: about marijuana, okay, Um, So I'm excited. I'm how be

471
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Speaker 1: with that pick in now, hopefully at least for the Jets.

472
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 1: I don't know what the Browns do next. That wide

473
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Speaker 1: receiver that you want, I hope you get that in

474
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Speaker 1: the middle of the second round. We'll see. Good job,

475
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas. Uh, let us move on. So Mark and

476
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: I are happy. We're feeling good. We're that our organizations,

477
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 1: by the way, Mark, are in this trajectory where three

478
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 1: years ago we were celebrating drafting our quarterbacks, and now

479
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: they both draft the left tackle that's supposed to protect

480
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Speaker 1: their quarterbacks for the next decade. Maybe these teams will

481
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Speaker 1: start winning now. That would be great. Well, I would say, right,

482
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 1: it's not here we are. It's April. Um, you know

483
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: six months from now, are they going to be oh

484
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: and four and utter disasters or can they do the

485
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: story a little bit? Change the story? Alright? The final

486
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: the first wide receiver comes off the board. So the Raiders,

487
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: the draft could not work out better for them, a

488
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: team that was a desperate need, as we talked about,

489
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Speaker 1: for a wide receiver. When they pick at twelve, they

490
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Speaker 1: don't have to move and they get to pick any

491
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Speaker 1: wide receiver they want coming out of college. They go

492
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Speaker 1: with Henry Ruggs out of Alabama. Guy with speed. He's

493
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Speaker 1: a guy, He's exactly what this team needed after the

494
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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown fiasco. West. Uh, your thoughts on this move?

495
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Speaker 1: You can't really it's hard to knock it. Yeah, it

496
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: made me think it was a grooten pick, that this

497
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: is the kind of guy that Gruden would love to

498
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Speaker 1: scheme up and do all this stuff before the snap

499
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Speaker 1: that the Chiefs do with Tyreek Hill. And my second

500
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: thought was, I hope he's more like Tyreek Hill and

501
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: and less like Brandon Cooks. Dan Cooks was pretty damn

502
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: good before those injuries started. He is, but Brandon Cooks

503
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Speaker 1: is a guy we all thought coming into the league

504
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: was gonna be a guy you can use close to

505
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage like Percy Harvin and break tackles

506
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: and do all that stuff. And he ended up being

507
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: more of a strict downfield guy. And I think when

508
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Speaker 1: you draft a guy like this, you you want to

509
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Speaker 1: be able to do both. You want to do the

510
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Speaker 1: downfield stuff and the and the pre snap behind the

511
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,479
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage stuff. I mean, his his speed and

512
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Speaker 1: his like you know, quickness to get off the line,

513
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Speaker 1: is is gonna arrival anyone in the NFL. I mean

514
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Speaker 1: it might, you know, it'll be there with with Tyreek

515
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Speaker 1: Yell and he's had good hands and so that that's

516
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Speaker 1: why he goes first. And of course the Raiders know

517
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: a million things more than me. It's just weird to

518
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,239
Speaker 1: look at, like, you know, the box box score from

519
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: the Alabama season and see that Henry Ruggs was their

520
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: third receiver and at seven and fifty yards and had

521
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: like five hundred yards less than Dafante Smith and five

522
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Speaker 1: yards less than Jerry Judy, and he just had so

523
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: much less production. And he's like a return guy and

524
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Speaker 1: and it'll probably work out. And at the very least

525
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: he has like a very defined skill set that they're

526
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Speaker 1: gonna use. But that I don't know that we're that

527
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: weirds me out a little bit. The receivers that come

528
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: in and that everyone's like, well they got return ability

529
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Speaker 1: to Like that's where you get into travel with Ted

530
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Speaker 1: Ginn and Cordurell Patterson and other guys at the top

531
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Speaker 1: of the draft that have a lot of speed, right

532
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: who had this as the number one wide out coming

533
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Speaker 1: off the board. I mean, I know he you know,

534
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: Ruggs picked up steam definitely later in the process. But

535
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Speaker 1: I viewed this as a pretty big upset. But then

536
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Speaker 1: there's Mike Mayock, and you know, he's he only as

537
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: someone that when he falls for a player, I mean,

538
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: he's committed to in in West. Maybe you're right, maybe

539
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: this is a Grooten fetish as well. Al Davis would

540
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Speaker 1: love this pick. It's very much a Raiders pick, and

541
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Speaker 1: like all the draft knicks, like DJ had him as

542
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: like a top twelve player, so it wasn't too crazy.

543
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Speaker 1: It's just it's just weird to see a guy that

544
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: didn't produce nearly as much as his teammates. I don't

545
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: know that would weird me out. What could be deems crazy,

546
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: and we'll get to is the second Raiders pick, which

547
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: was the one. There's always one where the draft knicks

548
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: are left scratching their head a little bit, and we'll

549
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: get to that in a little bit. At thirteen, Like

550
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: I said, no trades in the first twelve picks, but

551
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: then it starts with the Buccaneers, um, who trade with

552
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: the forty Excuse me? The forty Niners were at thirteen?

553
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: Is that correct? And they traded out the Bucks. So

554
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: the Bucks move up one spot, and that actually was

555
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: It's something I was kind of legitimately curious about. If

556
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Speaker 1: you're drafting, drafting fourteenth in the first round, you move

557
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 1: up one pick, what what should that cost you? What's

558
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: the price? What would be an acceptable used to move

559
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: up one pick in the middle of the first round

560
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: of a draft. What would you guess if if no

561
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: one told you what the terms were? So, well, it

562
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: depends which pick. But yeah, in the middle sparks first.

563
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: Trapped in the middle of the round. It's a fourth

564
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: round pick. It costs your fourth round pick in this

565
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: case anyway. So the Tampa three Youngers, Tampa Bay Bucking Ears,

566
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Speaker 1: three Rocks, Danny. Uh, they select Tristan Worths, the other

567
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: offensive tackle of the big four that everybody was talking about.

568
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: So the bucks Man they they're having a flashy off

569
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: season because not only they get Tom Brady and Grog,

570
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: now they make a trade and get one of these

571
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: big four lineman. Good for them. Uh. So they get

572
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: a tackle. And then the Niners they stay, They stay

573
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: at fourteen and draft Javon Kinlaw, the big defensive tackle.

574
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: Some people thought they would take a wide receiver, here

575
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: they take the defensive tackle. Your thoughts, gentleman, I love

576
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: the way that forty Niners played this, knowing that they

577
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: wanted kin Law and then looking at Tampa's roster and

578
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: saying that they have in Dominican Sue and Vita Vea,

579
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: They're not going defensive tackle here, so let's just pick

580
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: up a free mid round pick and get the same

581
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: guy we were after. And on the flip side, I

582
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: like that the Bucks got this guy. He's a good player,

583
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: but it as it turned out, they didn't have to

584
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: trade up for him. Well, maybe maybe the forty nine

585
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: is convinced them that someone else was moving up to

586
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: that spot. You know, Lynch might say, oh, I've gotten

587
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: one call to to get something. Who knows if he

588
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: head faked him. It couldn't have worked out more perfectly

589
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: for the Buck because they need a right tackle and

590
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: and they're gonna play worse they said at right tackling.

591
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: You know, unlike the Browns pick, he doesn't have to

592
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: move sides. He he seemed like the safer, more pro

593
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: ready like past protection guy. And they are in all

594
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: in for two years with Tom Brady mode. So the

595
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: Jets guy has a lot more upside. You don't have

596
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: to change positions. But like this seemed like the safer

597
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: pick because they just need to, you know, get it

598
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: going for two thousand and twenty that they can't wait around.

599
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: A lot of people thought the Giants would go after

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Speaker 1: Works way up at number four, so I I love

601
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: what they're talking about these draft guys, because that's what

602
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: they said. They said, there's really gonna be no way

603
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: to judge who's gonna be taken out of those four guys,

604
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: because it's a complete like jumble in terms of who's

605
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: the best guy, and that's exactly how it turned out.

606
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: It's yeah, I'm with Greg, though. I think that maybe

607
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: the Bucks felt that it wasn't that, oh, we think

608
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: that the Niners are gonna take our our tackle at all,

609
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: but that someone else might have and they had pinpointed him.

610
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: And you know, they showed Bruce arians Um in his

611
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: homestead and he looks super chill and super pleased with

612
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: what went down. So I don't think they have a problem,

613
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: you know, giving away whatever whatever it costs them to

614
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: get up in that spot. I love. This Bucks offseason

615
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: is insane, and like I, you know, I joke about

616
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: that they're gonna have nine primetime games, but I can't

617
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: think of a more fascinating Um team right now. And

618
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: someone made a great point. Someone DM me and said,

619
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: it's too bad they already picked hard knocks because this

620
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: would never happen. But the best hard knocks combo ever,

621
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: would be not the Chargers and the Rams, but the

622
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: Patriots and the Bucks. That would be fascinating to watch.

623
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: Arians and Arians and Brady would be great just in

624
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: Gronk and that that would be fun that the forty

625
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: nine is making this pick too. I like it when

626
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: teams just like they make the same picks all the time,

627
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: like they're they're just into certain sort of players, like

628
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: ken law is very much in their mold of defensive

629
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: linemen that they take a replacement for Devorce Buckner. And

630
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 1: then with their second pick that they traded back up

631
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: into the round to get their receiver, they took Brandon Ayak,

632
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: who who's like exactly like all of their other receivers.

633
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: He was the one guy saw that I didn't quite get.

634
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: But he's like just he looks like a running back

635
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: plane wide receiver, run after the catch guy who's just

636
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: like heard in Diebo Samuel and like that. You know,

637
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: they brought in Pierre Gosan, like Pierre Gosan wannabes, and

638
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: they just keep taking the same guys over and over,

639
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: and that's what they do, and you gotta try to

640
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: stop him. Well, the knock on I was that he

641
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: only runs like three routes the same ones at all

642
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: of Kyle Shanahan's wide receivers run I mean that guy's

643
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: teams wide receivers open better than anybody. So I don't

644
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: even know if route runnings as important for a forty

645
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: Niners receiver as it is for other teams. Um mentioned

646
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks. By the way, I did broach it with

647
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: our features editor Ali ban Pury the idea of walking

648
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: away from the Hard Knocks recaps this year as a

649
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: sign of protest with the decision to go with the

650
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: two l A teams a little pushback. So I'll keep

651
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: you guys updated how that goes. Yeah, if I suspect

652
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: his move, you know, I feel like it's like, well,

653
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: we can just have someone else write it. Well, that

654
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: would be fine. But that's not what he said initially. Okay,

655
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know about that. Let's talk about

656
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: this again after the draft. How would you feel, Dan

657
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: if you, um, you were allowed off the assignment and

658
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: West just picked it up as his pet project in

659
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: August for you. Yeah, Dan's fine with this. Yeah, I would, actually,

660
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: I would. We we've heard dance takes on Hard Knocks

661
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: that I would. I would like to hear. Well, I've

662
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: I've yet to survive past the third episode of any

663
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: season of the show, so I doubt that would they

664
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: want me on it? Alright, Moving moving on, Jerry Judy

665
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: goes to the Denver Broncos with the fifteen overall pick.

666
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: John Elway really feeling himself in the shots of his

667
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: fisherman's cabin wherever the hell Johnny was. But he got

668
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: his wide receiver, and I'm he seemed very happy with

669
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: the pick, and considering Judy was the guy some people

670
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: thought would go first among the wide receivers, getting him

671
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: in the middle of the first round, you understand why

672
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: Mr Elway was so pumped up. Well, yeah, he's He

673
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: said after the draft that Judy was the number one

674
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: guy on their board. I don't know if that's clear,

675
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: whether he wide receivers or overall, but um I you know,

676
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: I'm a sucker for a Denver team and I love

677
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: their off seas the team of a little bit pushed

678
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: back at first. Both of the teams that burned me

679
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: hard last year, the Cowboys and Goes. I loved what

680
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: they did in the draft. Uh, the Cowboys getting Ceedee Lamb,

681
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: a guy who Jerry Jones said was number six overall

682
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: on their board, and I'm kind of interested to see

683
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: what they would have done had he not been there.

684
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: It sounded like they were studying cornerbacks and may have

685
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: gone in that direction. But back to the Broncos, I

686
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: just I just really liked their off season. You pair

687
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: him with Melvin Gordon, they picked up Graham Glasgow to

688
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: solidify their offensive line, and they get Darell Casey and

689
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: Chris or Not um A J. Boyer on defense. I mean,

690
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: go ahead, Well, we were dude to do it. It's

691
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: the old go ahead. It's always mark, the old remote trick, right,

692
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: it's pointing to me. I just I was convinced Denver,

693
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, and at this point every single team in

694
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: the league was whispered about as wanting to move up

695
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: or down. So I mean, it's all irrelevant, but I

696
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: thought Denver was ripe and would have to move up

697
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: to get this player. And there were a couple of

698
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: teams today where the perfect player fell to them without

699
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: any movement. I don't remember too many drafts like that

700
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,719
Speaker 1: where the lack of trade activity UM didn't leave me

701
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: thinking that teams weren't aggressive enough just because of who

702
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: landed in their laps. Yeah, you guys get annoyed with

703
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: um like the NFC East, the Giants and Cowboys getting

704
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: too much love. My version of that is football pundits

705
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: falling over themselves to compliment John Elway whenever possible. So

706
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: another another big night for those people. It's back. It's

707
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: back because this team is fun. You know you had

708
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: the Broncos trading up and your mock mark. I know

709
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: we'll get to that later for Jerry Judy, but you're right,

710
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: like for him to be able to pair Judy with

711
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: Courtland Sun and that is a badass duo duty to me,

712
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: seemed like the highest upside and the safest guy because

713
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: like you just like watch him run routes. He's gonna

714
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: you know, make Matt Matt Harmon go nuts, like in

715
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: a worst case scenario, like this guy can get open.

716
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: Is gonna be like a Stevie Johnson or Santonio Holmes,

717
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: and he could be able. I don't know, he could

718
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: be a lot better. Him and Thunton next to each other.

719
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: It's like it's not setting up for the Drew well,

720
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: Drew locked out or is like me very well because

721
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: he's just like in a great situation. Well he's still

722
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 1: got to make the throws though. Yeah, that's another conversation.

723
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: Well it's not. It's not a podcast without you throwing

724
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: Shane at Drew Locks. I'm happy to hear you made

725
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: plenty of those. I'm not even a daughter at all.

726
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: I just want to see more. It's like five games

727
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: that were they were good, they were fine, they were fine,

728
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: And I think everybody knows it could go either way.

729
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: But if you listen to this show on a weekly basis,

730
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: it can only go poorly. Well, now he has West,

731
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: the expectations are through the roof, just saying it might

732
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: be might be smart, it might behoof Mr Elway to

733
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: have a backup play. I agree with that. You gotta

734
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: get a better backup, all right. Uh, the Atlanta Falcons

735
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: take a j Terrell at a Clemson the cornerback. It's sixteen.

736
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: I also, I feel like we we dug into the

737
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: draft a little harder this year as a podcast than

738
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: we have in recent years. And all these things are

739
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: lining up in terms of what we talked about, how

740
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: that we had heard the Falcons wanted to move up

741
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: potentially to get into the Jeff of Cuda sweepstakes. They

742
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: needed a guy in their secondary UH to replace Desmond Trufont.

743
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: They get that in a j Terrell or Terrell Trell.

744
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: It was as chalk top sixteen picks I think, as

745
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: I've ever covered, it's the opposite of what everyone said

746
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, it's gonna be crazy. Nos. It

747
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: was exactly how every a lot of mock drafts. And

748
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: speaking of chalk, at eighteen, the Dolphins get Austin Jackson.

749
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: Everyone thought that they were gonna get a tackle with

750
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: Tua on board, and they get Jackson, who has thought

751
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: to be the next year after those Big four. But

752
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: it was the pick in between that was interesting because

753
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, Uh, they take Ceedee Lamb, who in

754
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: the minds of many and the Jets were mocked to

755
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb by a lot of people, myself included at

756
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: number eleven. So he ends up being the third wide

757
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: receiver off the board. And now Chris Westling, you have

758
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: a situation where the Dallas Cowboys sometimes it feels like

759
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: this this organization is building a fantasy team to because

760
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: now you bring in another huge UH target, a talented

761
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: target for Dak Prescott to work with a Marii Cooper

762
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb. That is pretty good stuff with of course

763
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott in the backfield. Oh, I love the pick

764
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: and um I saw Daniel Jeremiah said something similar that

765
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: he loves to fit and that's a guy who can

766
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: play inside or outside. They needed a slot receiver with

767
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb leaving um. But I do think an interesting

768
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: way to look at it is would they have signed

769
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: Marie Cooper had they known Ceedee Lamb would be available?

770
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: And and I think the answer is no, I don't.

771
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: I think they would have allocated the resources elsewhere if

772
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: they know they could get Ceedee Lamb. And many people

773
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: think is the best receiver in the draft. Isn't it

774
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: better to have have three great receivers? I feel like,

775
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: but is it also better to have two really good

776
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: receivers and then fix fix another problem, get a Cornerback

777
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: when we were talking about when a Mary Cooper was

778
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: headed toward free agency, and there was this thought, what

779
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: are the Cowboys gonna do because they're in a bit

780
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: of a bind financially potentially if they give this guy

781
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: a huge contract, And then they went and did that.

782
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: The theory for letting walk was then finding his replacement again,

783
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: which happens in this league all the time, in an

784
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: hour league, in the draft. So yeah, that's exactly how

785
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: it turned out. But they ended up paying him a

786
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: trillion dollars, so they they are pretty set up there. Again,

787
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: this is a this is gonna be a loaded offense.

788
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: And you know, Dak Prescott, if he doesn't end up

789
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: signing that long term deal, Uh, it's going to be

790
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: a really interesting season with him because they're basically gonna

791
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: have I know, the offensive line maybe isn't one of

792
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: what was a couple of years ago, but he will

793
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: have as good as set up as anybody in the league,

794
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: and he'll be expected to have a huge season, which

795
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: will only put more pressure on him. It's and already

796
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: a pressure filled situation, is quite It was also immense

797
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: pressure on Mike McCarthy suddenly. I mean he's walked into

798
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: most first year first free note. Shoot, r how many

799
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: coaches walk into a first year situation with this kind

800
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: of offense. I mean usually you go in there because

801
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: who was there before led to a total train wreck

802
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: and you're walking into a bit of a rebuilding project.

803
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy does not have many excuses for them to

804
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: do anything less than go about eleven and five or

805
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: twelve and four. But he's got the I mean, at

806
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: least offensively, he's got the players. You know, defensively, no,

807
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: I don't think they do. I don't think they do

808
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: on defense. But it's a big one for Tom Palasero.

809
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he puts out that feature, gets McCarthy hired,

810
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: and McCarthy is gonna have a revenge tour through this league.

811
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: I mean, Lamb, Cooper and and Gallup complement each other

812
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: very well. That is like a like if if Lamb

813
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: is who he's supposed to be, he was DJ's top receiver,

814
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: kind of a run after the catch guy in the middle.

815
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: I mean that those three all fit together really nicely.

816
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah about eleven d yards, seventeen yards of reception and

817
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: six touchdowns last year. I mean, I I get it,

818
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: and I get the idea that Ceedee Lamb has a

819
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: is a guy who can be a star. But was

820
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: this a real position of need for the Cowboys in

821
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: relation to other other parts of their roster? And it

822
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: felt like it's a very Cowboys move, It's a very

823
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones movie. He's a DNA of what they do.

824
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: He's taking a lot of big names, take the best

825
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: player available. It felt like that's right around where the

826
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: draft got less. Uh sexy. I guess like where there

827
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: was a big drop off in talent. They kind of

828
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: took the last like big name and he's done. They've

829
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: done that before with guys that for whatever reason have

830
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: fallen in drafts, and Jerry takes like the biggest name guy.

831
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: There is funny you should say that West because uh

832
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: I mentioned, of course Austin Jackson to the Dolphins. I

833
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: was a pick for Need. Then the Raiders have a

834
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: supreme pick for need. They needed cornerback, help the best guys. Uh,

835
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: we're off the board. They take Damon Arnett at Ohio State. Uh,

836
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: this is a guy that had been mocked. I think

837
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: DJ said something crazy like he was like his like

838
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: number fifteen cornerback it was or it was something really

839
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: surprising him fifteen ninth. Overall. I did go check that

840
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: just to you know, try to stoke some NFL network

841
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: analyst on analyst heat, you know in my Winners and Loser,

842
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: just saying like, you know, Mayok versus Jeremiah, who's going

843
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: to be right here? That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

844
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: But uh, he was a guy that was expected to

845
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: go tomorrow or even maybe on Saturday. Instead he goes

846
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: at pick nineteen. So they, the Raiders and the Mayock

847
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: Gruden regime surprised people last year when they took Cleveland

848
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: Farrell early and that didn't work out so well, at

849
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: least as a rookie. And now they have um Our

850
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: Nett as their second first rounder here and we'll see

851
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: how that goes. Yeah, I kept reading that he's basically

852
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: a knuckle head and then to hear he's Chris Carter's son,

853
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: the son of a knucklehead Chris Carter, who went to

854
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, but early in his career knuckle

855
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: headed his way out of philadel Coast. Almost respect that

856
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: the best hand and boundary man, absolutely, but he did

857
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 1: work his way out of Philadelphia because of attitude issues.

858
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: And I mean this is a player that almost they

859
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: talked about almost walking away from college football a year ago.

860
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: So I mean, look, the Seahawks have been celebrated for

861
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: seeing things differently in the draft. Um, not that they've

862
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: hit on all, not by their fans lately, but you

863
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But early on that that was

864
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: an early staple of John Schneider was like, they're they're

865
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: gonna zig when you think they're going to go in

866
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: the other direction. And Mayock is proving to be a

867
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: similar and you know, we'll we'll tell. I mean, I

868
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 1: don't really care what people think tonight about it. Um,

869
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: they know a lot more about the player than most

870
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: people that were shocked by the pick. So we'll see.

871
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: In fairness to Chris Carter, he was an addict to

872
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 1: he's a cocaine user and an alcoholic in those Eagles days.

873
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: Well that he conquered those demons, that's fair, you know,

874
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying it wasn't just like he was a knucklehead.

875
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: He actually had a problem generally, not what you want though,

876
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: I know, I just I thought it was a line

877
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: a line ones like if you're like a Truemayne Johnson

878
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: type guy, that's one type of knucklehead any one is

879
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: if you're actually dealing with some demons. Right to mark point,

880
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: like the the story that he basically stopped showing up,

881
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: you know, to school, but because he probably thought he

882
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: was gonna go pro. But it wasn't really gonna make

883
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: sense last year. Um, that's one way to look at it.

884
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: But by all accounts, like his number one attribute is

885
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,479
Speaker 1: his competitiveness. That he's like a dog. That that DJ

886
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: said that's why he had him as high as he was.

887
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: That he doesn't seem like overly talented, but he's insanely competitive,

888
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: which is seemingly what may I keep taking guys like that?

889
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: Can we bring in Erica a second? Hey, Ricky, this

890
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 1: is a prime time podcast, so yeah, I think it's

891
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: fair to touch on some mature themes here. Yeah. You

892
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: had mentioned in the messaging section of our set up

893
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: here that you're upstairs, neighbors are a little busy, and

894
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: that's a theme connected to this podcast because Mark you

895
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: had a similar thing with your Motel six room. Well,

896
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: that's right. You want to hear about the current situation.

897
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: What's the status right now? Yeah, current situation is. I

898
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: was like, I took my headphones off and I was like,

899
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: what the heck is that? Uh, there's a little bit

900
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: of uh, you know, practice easy with the words here.

901
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: We've got to be safe. So ye, kids listening in

902
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: cars your video is you know a little you thought

903
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: there might have been another little aftershock, like an earthquake, kid. Yeah,

904
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: like I was getting vibrations all the way down here.

905
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: What was the on the Richter scale? What were the

906
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: vibrations it was? It was loud and powerful enough that

907
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: I had to take my headphones off. How long is

908
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: the earthquake? How long was the earthquake going on for

909
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: It's been going for a while. But there's there's a

910
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: couple of questions that I have up in the air.

911
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: It seems seems one sided, so confused. Um, yeah, I'll

912
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: report back if I can get any more information. That

913
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: area of the building known for natural disasters. One sided earthquake,

914
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: but normally it's two sided. But the girlfriend's car hasn't

915
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: been in the garage for a long time, so thanks?

916
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that an expression or you know, like

917
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: I think they've broke up. I think that the girlfriend

918
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: is no longer in the in the picture, So you say,

919
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: maybe it's just him up there. It just I only

920
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: recognize one voice and there's like no voices, no kind

921
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: of Uh, all right, we'll keep up, Okay. I don't

922
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: miss sharing walls with other people, know what I mean,

923
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: That's one thing I don't miss. There's something to look

924
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: forward to, Ricky, when you get in your thirties. Eventual

925
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: you you will move on, hopefully even before your thirties,

926
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: to a place with your own walls, and you don't

927
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: have to worry about those things anymore because it was annoying.

928
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a roommate. I just I happen

929
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 1: to live in a building. Yeah. Yeah, it's like Cliff

930
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: Kingsbury's not dealing with this issue. Maybe maybe he would

931
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: be personally, but I mean not through a wall. I

932
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: lived above a bar with a child on Second Avenue.

933
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: That was a bad idea. Well, you know that the

934
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury thing is still sitting with me a little

935
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 1: weird that I'm not saying it's like a bad thing

936
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: he took that photo or like had some want to

937
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: take that photo. Here's the only negative. I'm gonna say, Oh,

938
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: what a flex but lift Kingsbury. But it's like, I

939
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: don't know man, and he's wearing his little like versace loafers.

940
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: I want my football coaches with big guts. I want,

941
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: you know, I want him looking like Bruce Arians like

942
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: I haven't slept in seven months and I don't want to.

943
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: You're looking like you're out of a g Q ad

944
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: like g Q, Arizona. We have a better taste in

945
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: interior decoration than other coaches do. I don't want my

946
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: coaches have good taste and interior decoration. Fantass, flat out hot.

947
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Kevin Stefanski is just a flat out and

948
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 1: attractive man. I'll take that over a big tubby guy

949
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: that's rolling around like a big barrel. How about you

950
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: love Freddie Kitchens and he was basically the opposite side

951
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: of this. I like, I'd like to go to a

952
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: bar with Freddie Kitchens. I'm not, I don't. I think

953
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: he hit the Peter principal pretty hard last year. How

954
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: about what do you think of Belichick in his like

955
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: sandals and Nintucket uh Nintucket Beach house that they showed

956
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: him in tonight's but your book with book it to

957
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: trade out of the first round? I mean, was it?

958
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: What were they? What was their plan this evening? I

959
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: just love at least a dozen times you found Bill

960
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: Belichick to be an attractive man. I think that, yes,

961
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: we are. I don't think version but well that's fine.

962
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that in today's world, when we're

963
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: looking at all these younger coaches, Bill Belichick's not doing

964
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: it for me on the hotness scale. Um ago. I

965
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 1: was like, what Dan wants out of a coach, though,

966
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: And I was just gonna say that, I'm just so

967
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: happy how irrelevant the Patriots are now. But you know,

968
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: now that I'm in my forties, I don't want to

969
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: be petty like that anymore. So I'm not gonna say, oh,

970
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: you crossed that threshold today alone. There's no way this

971
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: could come back to bite you. It is like the

972
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: most classic Patriots thing, though, to trade out of the

973
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: first round in this absolutely we talked about special anymore,

974
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: and well to the point where you know, we were

975
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: all texting the entire none of us when they traded out.

976
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: None of us even texted each other because it's like

977
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: every time, so they have four third round picks. No

978
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: one loves the third round pick. Don't matter anymore. All right,

979
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: Let's move to U the twenties. Uh. The Jacksonville's Jaguars

980
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: take Calaban, chasing out of l s U outside linebacker.

981
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: The Eagles, they do address the wide receiver position, which

982
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: we were all demanding they did. We I think we're

983
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: all starting to get a little annoyed with the Eagles

984
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: do something, get somebody in there to help out, Carson Wentz.

985
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,959
Speaker 1: Colleen actually saw the She texted me, and Colleen's getting loose.

986
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: She originally was maybe gonna be involved with today's show,

987
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: but she was getting so loose and enjoying herself after

988
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: a hard day's work. She did a great job um

989
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: in the in the lead up to the draft on

990
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: NFL Network that I was like, don't worry about it.

991
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: Connie just relaxed. But she was setting sent in some

992
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: texts during the draft and she she mentioned that she

993
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: thought Ceedee Lamb to the Cowboys was essentially Jared just

994
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: raising two middle fingers the Eagles. Yeah, that it just

995
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: felt like that that checks out to me. So the

996
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: Eagles have to settle for Jalen Reagor, who, by the

997
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: way from TCU is a guy that people seem to

998
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: really like and uh he uh, he's very he's a

999
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: quick receiver. He's a guy that knows how to get

1000
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: open and damn it, dis Carson Wentz needed a guy

1001
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: that knows how to get open and makes some plays.

1002
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: I thought he was maybe the boom er bus guy

1003
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: of of of that receiver group. Like if you just

1004
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: put his ten best plays together, I think he might

1005
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: look like the most explosive player in the draft. His

1006
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: return ability was insane, Like his deep ball ability was insane.

1007
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: He had like bad quarterbacks around him. But there was

1008
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: concerns about whether you know, he was that consistent a worker.

1009
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: His hands were a little up and down, like there

1010
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: were a little bit of red flags where it looks

1011
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: like he's a boomer bust guy. Reminds me a lot

1012
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: of de Sean Jackson, except like twenty pounds, bigger and

1013
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: can and can jump and go out and get the ball.

1014
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 1: Felt like a swing for the fences type of pick,

1015
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: which is what we wanted out of him. The look

1016
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: want treadwell season. I think it's a twenty six teen

1017
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: draft when they it was right around this time in

1018
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: the first round where I think three whiteouts went in

1019
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: a row. Uh And I think did any of those

1020
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: three guys make it? Does anybody remember that that that class?

1021
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: But it was ended up being underwhelming. Uh. So we

1022
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: have Reagor goes to the Eagles, and then twenty two

1023
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, the wide out goes to the Vikings, who

1024
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: replace Stefon Diggs with a guy that um Lad the

1025
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: n C double a um in receptions last season, so

1026
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: the Vikings phill a need. And now these two guys

1027
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: are linked together and we see we'll find out which

1028
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: of these two NFC teams picked the right guy. One

1029
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: note those three receivers were will Fuller, Josh Dotson, and Treadwell.

1030
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: Two of the three no, thank you good one healthy,

1031
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: but the other the other guys have both been cut. Yeah,

1032
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 1: they did not work out anyway, so they both very

1033
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: sensible decisions for the Eagles and Viking. Sir. I feel

1034
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: like that point about Reager being boom er bust that

1035
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: described the whole Eagles wide receiver corps. Then if al

1036
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: Shan Jeffrey comes back healthy, if the Sean Jackson is

1037
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: not too old, and I forgot j j Arthega Whiteside

1038
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: is even on the roster, I mean he looks. It

1039
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: was only it was only one year, but it was

1040
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: about as bad a year as as you could have.

1041
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: Rick Spielman, the Vikings GM sneaky pretty good in the

1042
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: draft over the years, as as West mentioned and getting

1043
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: Jefferson and people thought he was probably a safer. He

1044
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: does a lot of the same things as Adam thieland

1045
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: like he's inside. And then they get Gladney, who's who's

1046
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: thirty one, who's like a total Mike Zimmer like slot cornerback,

1047
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: you know, feisty guy, like great instincts and also seems

1048
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: like a safe figure. Like seemed like two guys that

1049
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: could play for them right away for a team that

1050
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: that's in the mix. I mean, Jefferson had a hundred

1051
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: and eleven catches last year, which led the all of

1052
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: college football and dominated from the slots. So I like

1053
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 1: to pick for the Vikings at twenty three. That was

1054
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: the Patriots spot, and Belichick trades out of it, and

1055
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: the Chargers slide in and take Kenneth Murray, an inside

1056
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: linebacker round of Oklahoma. The Charges couldn't stop anybody on

1057
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: the ground last year, so this is hoping to address

1058
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: any there. Murray, that is a UM area of expertise. Uh,

1059
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: and Greg, are you okay with the Pets moving out

1060
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: and doing the Pets thing? Or was this a year

1061
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: maybe you would have liked to see them be more

1062
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: aggressive in this round. No. I like them doing what

1063
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: they've always done because it's just, I mean, that's what

1064
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 1: they do. They they got they have four third round

1065
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: picks and they have but two do they have a

1066
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 1: second round? I think they have fourth third round picks,

1067
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: two or three fourth round picks in the second round pick.

1068
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: It's like that's what they'll do. They you knew there was.

1069
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: It was like a giveaway with later someone on someone

1070
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: on the telecast said like, and they think they're gonna

1071
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: be able to take the same guy they would take

1072
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: at thirty seven, that they were gonna take a twenty three.

1073
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: So they're gonna take some random dude no one's ever

1074
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: heard of it. They might as well take him at

1075
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: thirty seven. Ricky, how you feeling after all a traumatic

1076
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of weeks or a month or

1077
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: so for Patriots fans, and now you don't even get

1078
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: a shiny toy under the Christmas tree. Get him tomorrow.

1079
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: I mean they moved down fourteen spots, alright, I want

1080
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: to hear I know she's muted right now, so I'm

1081
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: just buying time time. It was. It was exactly what

1082
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: Greg said, like I rolled my eyes when it happened,

1083
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: but I would have. I don't know, I thought maybe

1084
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: it's something crazy would happened. It's not just all the

1085
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: players in New England, her brain washed. Look at the

1086
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: fans to building a nice job. I mean, if you're

1087
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna give we want, and we didn't want the first

1088
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: round pick. I wonder if they wanted Jefferson that did

1089
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: number one thirty seven better than pick three. If there's

1090
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: a guy that you would just trust what's going on

1091
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: and not really worry about it, why not? What the

1092
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 1: hell do I know? Logan Maintenance was literally the least

1093
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: popular pick any they've ever made. Light round better than

1094
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: first round. Love, it was an impression. Um, all right?

1095
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: Moving on by Rocky Saints. Take Caesar Ruiz a center

1096
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: out of Michigan. Nice job. They're the Niners, uh from

1097
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings take well, you know that we talked

1098
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: about the Saints. They didn't they don't have a glaring hole.

1099
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: So they go and they get like a workman like

1100
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: center that I guess gives them depth. And I think

1101
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: they've got a trade or cut Larry Warford, who made

1102
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl last year. It shows you how worthless

1103
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: the Pro boys. He's what a free agent after this season?

1104
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: He has a twelve million dollar cap figure. And apparently

1105
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: they weren't. They weren't thrilled with him. M okay. The Niners.

1106
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: Uh they trade up to is that correct? Yep? They

1107
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: take Brandon Ayouk from Arizona State, a wide receiver. Uh.

1108
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on that, gentleman before I get to the Yeah,

1109
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: we touched on him, okay. And then the late pick

1110
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: the draft, that kind of uh, you know, got everybody titilated.

1111
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers with the pick in the draft

1112
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: they trade up to take Jordan's love quarterback. You tass

1113
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 1: state and we talked about Jordan's love Uh in the

1114
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: past couple of weeks. The onions on this guy. He

1115
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: makes the decision. It's the first time this has ever happened,

1116
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: a decision made with the post Aaron Rodgers Green Bay

1117
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:39,919
Speaker 1: Packers in mind. Isn't it funny how life works? Yeah?

1118
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: I went through all the cliches, like the tables have

1119
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: turned the shoes on the other foot. What goes around

1120
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: comes around. What's good for the goose is good for

1121
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: the gander spider Man meme. But Rogers got farmed, and

1122
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm thinking father Time is a b I mean,

1123
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: not just for Rogers, but the fact that I thought

1124
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: I was a young man when all that happened with

1125
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: with far Van Rodgers and now it's happening to the

1126
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 1: same guy in the other way around. To me, it's

1127
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: like classic Greek theater, like this empest that Rodgers is under.

1128
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: Now it's happening to Rogers later in his career. Then

1129
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: it happened when it was far far was thirty five

1130
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 1: when Rodgers came aboard, and uh and Aaron Rodger. It

1131
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: is wild. I think that there is one difference here

1132
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: that far Of with threatening retirement at that age, and

1133
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: Rodgers doesn't want anything to do with that. This is

1134
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: his team, Well, what is the what is the plan here?

1135
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: I it just feels like an incredibly disruptive um pull

1136
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: of the trigger. If you're if you've got a quarterback

1137
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 1: very Aaron Rodgers is like nothing if not a little quirky.

1138
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: I mean, this does not feel like the guy that's

1139
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 1: gonna know. We don't know, but it's not the first

1140
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: guy I'd pick in the power rankings of like coddling

1141
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: number one quarterback who wants to embrace um young quarterback

1142
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: who has just been drafted in the first round after

1143
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: the team traded up for him. I mean, Rogers put

1144
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: put Brett Farve on blast in a way and made

1145
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: it known that Farv was not very good dude due

1146
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: to him. So let's see what kind of integrity Rogers

1147
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: has now, because we'll find out. It will leak if

1148
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: this is not a good relationship between these two guys.

1149
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: But then from Roger in defensive Rodgers, I hate it.

1150
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: I mean I hated it on Aaron Rodgers, Like you

1151
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: gave me this huge contract. You you bring in this

1152
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: coach that's gonna help me get back to the way

1153
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: I was. You get we get to the NFC title game,

1154
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: it's clear that we we need some pieces. And then

1155
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: instead of using your first round pick on uh something

1156
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: that improves the roster in you take my replacement, Like

1157
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: I get why he would be super mad, Like it

1158
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: made me think of the better call Soffin Alley. Spoiler

1159
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: alert ahead when Lalo sees that his aboleto was a

1160
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: gun down in the compound raid and you just see

1161
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: him angrily stock off screen. As the season ends, Aaron

1162
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: Rodgers is furious right now, and he and you know,

1163
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: all the Beat guys are trying to get in touch

1164
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: with him, and they want something on the record, and

1165
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,959
Speaker 1: maybe he says the right thing. Maybe he says nothing

1166
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: at all, but he is furious and I totally get it. Yeah,

1167
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 1: we gotta get Bob mcgin back on the phone because

1168
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear his thoughts. I mean, we're gonna

1169
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: talked to Bob for twenty minutes about Rogers. He wanted

1170
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: to have said anything, he um, he didn't. They didn't

1171
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: just you know, draft Rodgers replacement, like because he because

1172
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: he fell to him. They traded up for him, traded up.

1173
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: They gave up a mid round pick in this year's

1174
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: draft to go get him. And they didn't just take anyone.

1175
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: They took the only guy in the last couple of

1176
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: drafts that can go on the field and maybe throw

1177
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: the ball as well as Aaron Rodgers at least it's

1178
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: hard like who has maybe just like Aaron Rodgers compared

1179
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers would have been the only guy when Brett

1180
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: Favre was around that could have come in and actually

1181
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: been a physical match for him. Jordan's love is nothing

1182
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: if not like a physical freak. I think he's got

1183
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: a lot more red flags than Mahomes. Did you know

1184
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: coming into the or Rogers did coming into the league

1185
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: in terms of decision making and accuracy and all that,

1186
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: but like his arm and his athleticism are outrageous, and

1187
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, you know it's gonna make Rogers up his game.

1188
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: And he's he's has a lot of guaranteed money in

1189
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: the next couple of years in terms of like they

1190
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: can't really get rid of He's gotta be there for

1191
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: two more years and then and then it gets crazy. Dan,

1192
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: you said that you would have hated this if you

1193
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: were Rogers, but you're the first person I thought of.

1194
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: This is the kind of this is the kind of

1195
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: drama that you can really enjoy. So and enjoy it.

1196
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick my teeth into this first. It's your

1197
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: birthday present from the Packers, and it's so much fun.

1198
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I love about sports, but especially

1199
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: covering the NFL on a daily basis that it's all

1200
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: soap opera and the draft is a huge payoff. It's

1201
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: like a season finale in its own way. And this

1202
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: is this is crazy and Jordan's love. I woonder if

1203
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: Jordan's love is kind of bummed out right now, because

1204
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: not only is he the Packers are a great organization,

1205
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: but you're playing in Wisconsin. Uh, it's cold all the

1206
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: time and dark and you're he's coming from youth, so

1207
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, your teammate. Your teammate is Aaron Rodgers,

1208
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: one of the greatest quarterbacks ever, but a well known

1209
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: kind of prickly personality who might be very unhappy about

1210
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: the situation. And on top of it, Aaron Rodgers is

1211
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: not going anywhere anytime soon, so there's a very good

1212
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: chance you could end up getting red shirted for at

1213
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: least two seasons. So that's that doesn't seem like a

1214
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: great situation for the kid that said that. I mean,

1215
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: they always use Aaron Rodgers as the example of someone

1216
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: that was helped by sitting for a little while he

1217
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: just stuck behind. I'm just saying, I mean, you could

1218
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: look at Patrick Mahomes and say, if it's two years,

1219
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: that feels like a long time. But if if this

1220
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: thing progresses quickly, more quickly, but it's one season or two,

1221
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: and you know, he has a chance to learn, because

1222
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a totally finished product based on

1223
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: what they say about him. I don't know if I

1224
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: hate that for for love, but it is a weird

1225
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: It's just the dynamic. The Packers created something that they

1226
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: did not need to create. They must love this guy.

1227
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I find it amazingly dramatic and in station

1228
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: from that angle, I love it. I think they must have.

1229
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: I thought the same thing as you, Dan, and they

1230
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: had Jordan's love on ESPN after its Actually he seemed delated,

1231
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: so he didn't he didn't betray any um anxiety about it.

1232
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: He seemed delated to be with them and to learn

1233
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: from And he probably is a guy like it really

1234
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: was a luxury pick and like a rare opportunity that

1235
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 1: they must have thought, because he seems like a guy

1236
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: who if he's going to have any chance to take

1237
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: advantage of all that skills, like he really can't. He

1238
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: really does need to sit for a while. So it's

1239
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: great for him. And you know, maybe maybe to your

1240
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: theory about Rogers in the eye of the Tiger, who knows,

1241
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: maybe maybe they're trying to stoke the fire. That's interesting.

1242
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: I like that. I kind of doubt that though based

1243
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: on his reputation, you know, I don't know. I mean,

1244
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't expensive. It's an expensive way to go. I

1245
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: mean that if that's what they're trying to do, they're

1246
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: other ways to get there. I mean, we've now reached

1247
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: the world where we need need to check in on

1248
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers contract. See how much is how many more

1249
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: years a guaranteed? When they can get out of the deal.

1250
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: We are we have entered that phase now of his

1251
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: career in Green Bay. Uh and we'll see how it

1252
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: plays out. You know, the beat writers love it. They

1253
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: are I'm looking at Rob uh Domovski of PFPN. Now

1254
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: Rogers will have to decide whether he will freeze out

1255
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: love or help him. I do want to throw. Someone

1256
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: actually asked him in the lead up to the draft

1257
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: on his normal radio show, what would you do if

1258
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:30,919
Speaker 1: if they took a first round pick? And he gave

1259
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: the perfect answer. He's like, well, of course, you you know,

1260
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: you'd rather you know, you'd like to see the mad

1261
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: but I would welcome, welcome anyone to the build him

1262
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: and help him out and whatever. Roger Roger said that. Yeah,

1263
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: he's on the record. It's about a quarterback he did. Yeah,

1264
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: it was kind of amazing. I think it was Jason Wildy.

1265
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: I hope I'm not wrong who tweeted it out. But

1266
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: he had a long quote on on a radio show

1267
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: from from April talking about this exact scenario I love

1268
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: it as a Green Bay Packers ford field sixty five

1269
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: yard hail Mary to get Aaron Rodgers is either tiger

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01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: back taking quarterback late in the first round. Oh, this

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01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: is gonna be great. All right, let's finish up the

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Speaker 1: first round. Jordan's Brooks, inside linebacker round of Texas Techos

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01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: of the Seahawks at seven at twenty eight. Also, I

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01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: wonder if the Packers needed to trade up to get

1275
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: Jordan's love. I guess we'll never know. At the Ravens

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01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: take Patrick Queen, inside linebacker at of L s U.

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01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: I feel like L s U. There's like fourteen guys

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01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: drafted out of Alabama and L s u uh. At

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Speaker 1: twenty nine the tight Titans. Titans take Isaiah Wilson, a

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Speaker 1: tackle out of Georgia. Any thoughts on those picks, gentlemen,

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01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: I think the Patrick Queen and I I anyone on

1282
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: defense at the Ravens drafted, I would just ticket for

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01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: a rookie Pro Bowl year. Um. I think they're absolutely

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01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: delighted that Patrick Queen felt to them. I had them

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01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: taking a different linebacker in my mock, um, because I

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01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: think it's a position of need and I just I

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01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: can't think of a team in the league that I

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01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: trust more to oh young players on defense. They do

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01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: it over and over. So it's a great landing spot

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01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: for Patrick Queen. I love that the Seahawks always take

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01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: a guy that that their fans and no one else

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01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: has ever heard of. I think in the first round,

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01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: like it's the seven pick, it's the Seahawks taking some

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01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: guy you don't know. At thirty, the Dolphins take a cornerback.

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01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for it. Noahg Big Nogene nailed it.

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01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: A cornerback out of an Auburn. The Vikings take a cornerback.

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01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: Jeff Gladney touched on both of those guys, and then

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01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the final pick of Oh, if we

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01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: were doing sandwiches, uh in this one, this would have

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01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: killed anybody who said no running back. It's taken in

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01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: the first round because they take Clyde Edwards Hilaire at

1302
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: an l s U again. Uh, so they have you know,

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01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have some death back. They're running back, but

1304
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: maybe they needed a more dynamic guy that took place

1305
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: behind Patrick Mahomes. Uh. He joins the crew of Damian

1306
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: William Starry, Williams, DeAndre Washington Darwin Thompson. So we'll see

1307
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: how all that shakes out. But you know it's a

1308
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 1: first round pick. Clyde the Glide is gonna get some run.

1309
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are scary. I think the rest of the

1310
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: a f C. You're already checking under your bed for

1311
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid before you turn out the

1312
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: lights at night. And now you get a guy who

1313
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: looks like some unholy mash up of darren Sproles and

1314
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: priest Homes. All they talk about is a receiving ability

1315
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: and he led the sec enforced Smith tackles and yards

1316
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: after contact as a rusher and fifteen out of the

1317
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: thirty two picks where sec I mean that that conference

1318
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: was loaded. He he was like an incredible, as you said, receiver.

1319
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: He's immediately gonna be one of the higher ranked fantasy

1320
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: football prospect, Like he's gonna be a top thirty fantasy

1321
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: pick at least, if not like a top fifteen or twenty,

1322
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: because he's gonna be a Chiefs running back that catches

1323
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: seventy passes. Like it seems like such a safe uh

1324
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: pick by the Chiefs. That was one of my Round

1325
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: one take of ways that these a f C West.

1326
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: It's I'm so happy to hear every The kind of

1327
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: party line now is how are these teams in the

1328
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: a f C West, How are they gonna try to

1329
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: keep up and close the distance on the Chiefs. It

1330
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: used to be the Patriots or twenty years and that

1331
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: was very annoying thing to hear all the time. Now

1332
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are that team that are the superpower, the champion,

1333
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: and the Chargers go get a quarterback they hope turns

1334
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: into a star at six, the Raiders get a wide

1335
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: receiver with their first pick uh in Rugs, and then

1336
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,919
Speaker 1: the Broncos get Jerry Judy. So there's an idea here

1337
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: that we're we're the only chance we have to beat

1338
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. The way they're set up right now is

1339
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: to score points, and we have a better chance of

1340
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: just getting the shootouts than trying to draft guys to

1341
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: stop what might be an unstoppable offense. Doesn't it remind

1342
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: you of the Bill Polian Colts with Peyton Manning, where

1343
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: they just keep loading up on offense every year, like

1344
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: let's just keep adding to strength, and this is Joseph

1345
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: and Die, you know, like maybe it's not gonna like

1346
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: wow you but he's gonna just be racking up yards

1347
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: and catches. They're going to be insane, alright, Mark. So

1348
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: that's the first round and we're going to go through

1349
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: the rest of the draft on Saturday night. UH. Your

1350
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: mock draft. We've been talking about this last year. Uh

1351
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: I called a soft launch last year's mock draft. Our

1352
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: goal here is to build you into a an industry

1353
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: mainstay in this realm, a superpower, a guy that maybe

1354
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: just maybe we could spin off and maybe break off

1355
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: on our own and have maybe our own kind of website,

1356
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: and then you would have a whole section of the

1357
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: website as the draft insider, and all of a sudden,

1358
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: we kind of have a portfolio for our website. UM.

1359
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: So this was the big year you and I think

1360
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: that I think that you had a really good uh

1361
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: year two. I I think it was great. The goal

1362
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: was nine, and we came very close to nine out

1363
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: of thirty two. Yeah, I mean after pick eighteen I

1364
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: had eight and I was feeling good. Um, although I

1365
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: will admit that, UM, when you get past eighteen or

1366
01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, you're dealing with the back end of the

1367
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: these mocks. UM, I couldn't have picked half of these

1368
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: people out of the lineup, but at the same time

1369
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: you felt like you just had to hit one more. Uh.

1370
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: I would say this last year, I believe I got

1371
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: two two right, which was absurd. I believe that's what

1372
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: it was. That it was that that. I mean, you're

1373
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 1: correctly predicting who's going to go in the first round,

1374
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 1: but right now with the right team. So here's the

1375
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: way I view it. I went from two to eight. Uh,

1376
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: that's a two times four is eight. Uh. And I'll

1377
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: help you out with the math here. So next year

1378
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: eight times four is thirty two. So next year is

1379
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: going to be absolute gold fever. Um, but perfect well

1380
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: that might not be. Yeah, I'm saying, you know, if if, if,

1381
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna exactly exactly. So it's like, you know, the

1382
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,919
Speaker 1: future is bright. This is not a two year project

1383
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: like you said, Um, this is going to become its

1384
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: own uh, you know, money making cottage industry inside this

1385
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,560
Speaker 1: Sessler household. So here we are we needed growth in

1386
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: year two, We got it. Are we are we certain

1387
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,759
Speaker 1: the mock Draft is gonna come back as a podcast

1388
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: next year at this point, No, we're not sure. But

1389
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 1: will your mock Draft red term yes, it will. Does

1390
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: this is gonna keep getting its own episode? I don't know,

1391
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: but well I would say there's a strong read, you know,

1392
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: if I have any any say in how the show

1393
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: has run at all, it will be returning this year. Yeah,

1394
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: Gronk retired and upstage. But if you want to we

1395
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: said nine things, correct, I mean, I'm not. I'm not

1396
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: trying to pull one of these old Sandwich tricks where

1397
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 1: I'm trying to convince you that I got nine because

1398
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: I got an awesome this year. This was a great year.

1399
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 1: You throw in Gronk, that's nine. I'm nix and it's

1400
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: just going to tell you that. But it is eight

1401
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: in terms of the draft. And I have to work on,

1402
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, maybe doing a little bit more homework where

1403
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't fall totally off a cliff over the last

1404
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: what was it thirteen picks of round one where you

1405
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: know I went over thirteen for yourself, congratulations, just gave

1406
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: yourself more work next well and outer space somewhere. I

1407
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 1: and I've not done this homework, but i'd like to.

1408
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: I just and I you know, I'm not competing with

1409
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah necessarily, but I just like to see I'd

1410
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: like just to know. I mean, maybe he blew everyone

1411
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: out of the water. How many did he get? Right?

1412
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: How did how did DJ do? Did you tabulate that

1413
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: I was looking at it, um and I don't know

1414
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: the answer? Oh? Cool, thank you. I actually, you know,

1415
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: I did debate about an hour and a half ago

1416
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 1: asking I was like, is that something that a producer

1417
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 1: if like the podcast, asked this producer to see how

1418
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: DJ did? And then I was like, no, she's gonna

1419
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 1: think I'm so I'm not going to ask her to

1420
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: do it. But then maybe she surprised me and maybe

1421
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 1: she will have done it. But you didn't. Well, I

1422
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 1: don't know, it's your birthday. I wasn't going to look

1423
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: at DJ's work. I would never do that to a

1424
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: great I'm not necessarily looking to cook up another feud

1425
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: with a with a co worker at this point either.

1426
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: I would maybe, you know, tap the brakes on that

1427
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 1: for a bit because I think it might ultimately have

1428
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: a negative impact on my scenario here at NFL Network.

1429
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I just did it. I just did

1430
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: it while you were yapping. He got seven? Right? Oh,

1431
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: unless you know, I mean, well, there's a margin for

1432
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 1: error here. I do you know I quickly look, but

1433
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: I think he got seven. Yeah, I don't know what

1434
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: to tell you. I mean I dunk on Jeremiah. Actually

1435
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: that's because I feel like that would be maybe a

1436
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: bridge too far. Well, and I would I would please

1437
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: ask the listeners maybe don't do that either. I don't

1438
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 1: listeners settle down with you know, hitting DJ with this,

1439
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: or don't include don't at me in it bridge too far?

1440
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 1: I feel like him taking down you know, he just

1441
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: tried to take down your wardrobe on television last week.

1442
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 1: That's a lot more personal in some mock drafts. Go

1443
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: for it, I know, but you know, you look how

1444
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: he dresses, and it's like, do I need to fire

1445
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: back of the guy A dresses like he's at Sunday

1446
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 1: service every day. I'm not going to do that. Look

1447
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: how'm mature you are at you are really a changed

1448
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 1: man exactly. I'm not gonna do that. Um all right,

1449
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: Any final thoughts, I would say this, I think I

1450
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: know that round one is you know, there's no there's

1451
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: no slowing the hoop blot train on on round one.

1452
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: I think day two is always more interesting. Round two,

1453
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: at least is always more interesting for me. I think

1454
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 1: that they're in Also, so many, so many great players,

1455
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: like come out of round two. You know that that

1456
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: we that we may not know that well today, but

1457
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb came in round two. Who would have known

1458
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 1: what you're getting out of that kind it's a great day.

1459
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: Those are the moves that really good teams like the Jets,

1460
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: for instance, haven't had an All Pro drafted in the

1461
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: second round since Mark Gastineau. Teams that are run well, uh,

1462
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: that's where they really score because you're not paying them

1463
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: even at the top level of the rookie scale, and

1464
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: you got them under your team control and they're a

1465
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: huge impact of your team. That's how you do it,

1466
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: and that's what I guess that's the bell check thing.

1467
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: I like to approach the draft by pairing it with

1468
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: free agency and seeing which franchises might be transformed and

1469
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: the off seasons that I'm really enjoying the Buccaneers, Chargers, Cardinals, Bengals, Broncos.

1470
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 1: To me, you all look like five franchises. It could

1471
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 1: be so much better in a year. And then I

1472
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: love what the forty Niners and Chiefs have done coming

1473
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 1: off the Super Bowl to like, yeah, you you lose

1474
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: the Forest Buckner, but you replace him with with Ken Law.

1475
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like both those teams have done

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Speaker 1: such a good job of not losing too much. They

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01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 1: haven't lost any ground on the competition. Really. Yeah, this

1478
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: this Friday of the draft in Saturday, to some extent

1479
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: is I think saucier than normal because the running backs

1480
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: and the receivers, which you know ultimately guys like us

1481
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 1: are following a little bit more in the fantasy guys.

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01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,600
Speaker 1: It's it's a great group of guys still left. Like

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01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 1: I I watched these running backs. I swear this running

1484
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: back class is awesome. Like it if these running backs

1485
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: were in the draft fifteen years ago, there'll be four

1486
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: or five first rounders. It's just like a different way

1487
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: to look at the league. But then you look back

1488
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:12,799
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago and Cook Kamara, you know, Connor,

1489
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 1: who am I forgetting? Someone else went in the middle

1490
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 1: round to that, like in the second, third, and fourth round,

1491
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: and they're all like Joe Mixon is another one I'm

1492
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: thinking of, like all in that draft and they're all

1493
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 1: stars and cam Akers. I think you could throw in

1494
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: that mix Jonathan Taylor, maybe j K. Dobbins. I like

1495
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 1: a lot, and like these are guys who will step

1496
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: in right away and be factors. And there's a ton

1497
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 1: of receivers out there too, so it seems like it's

1498
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: a more fun Friday than normal. Yep. A few things

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01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: I loved Roger Goodell's black Denham jeans. Oh yeah, nice

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01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:46,839
Speaker 1: and casual in the basement, comfortable. He was tick talking

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01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: with with Judy by the way, so nice. Um I liked?

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01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 1: What else? Did I like? Sanders and the little COVID

1503
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 1: nineteen intro. He promised everything was gonna be okay. He's

1504
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 1: like everyone did, Everything's gonna be okay. I was like, oh,

1505
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: I noticed that he said okay. I think he said

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01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: I promise you. He didn't say that was like a

1507
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: football field of a backyard behind them, And I just thought, like,

1508
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: how many bill I watching this? Like, yeah, it's fine

1509
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: with it if you got a football field behind you

1510
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 1: that he like? I At first I had a lot

1511
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: of like consternation and concerned about the future of mankind

1512
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: and and what's gonna happen next? But then Dion Sanders

1513
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: promised me everything was gonna be okay. So now, well

1514
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: you're happy about that? So that was another birthday gift leadership.

1515
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: And I like this quote from New Jets left tackle

1516
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 1: McKay Beckton. I've never been to New York. I know

1517
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: the Jets had Brett Farve in the past. I know

1518
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: they had the Damian Tomlinson in the past. Jets legends

1519
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: Brett Farvell. I hate to say it, but for like

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01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 1: a twenty one year old day and that that that's

1521
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: what they know. That's even like a youngster Brett far

1522
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 1: Like most people that blink forgot about the Brett far

1523
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: New York Jet season, but it's on his radar. Good

1524
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: for him, all right, I mentioned the Dion thing. I'm

1525
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: really feeling good. Yes you you brought that up. Let

1526
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: me be promised, white Beard. Feel like we should we

1527
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 1: should give a little love to the Bengals that they

1528
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: got there. I know, we we just went past and

1529
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 1: we kind of knew they're going to get Joe. But

1530
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 1: good job, good job Bengals. I mean, you just got

1531
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 1: a guy who's about as uh. If someone can inspire

1532
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: some confidence in the Cincinnati faithful in that organization, Joe

1533
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: Burrow seems like that guy. And good for you guys,

1534
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 1: because when the internet was dunking on Dave gentleman for

1535
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: putting on a mask as the ESPN went to break.

1536
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 1: At one point, I thought you guys would bring that

1537
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 1: up and make fun of him. But you know what,

1538
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: he's sixty nine years old. And here was his quote

1539
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 1: quote when I asked about it. Well, I have a

1540
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: young I T fellow over here with me and we're

1541
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 1: social distancing. Part of it is the mask. I'm fine,

1542
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: by the way, like what you removed from cancer. A

1543
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: few precautions get him, and I applaud that. In the

1544
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 1: Becoming Tired Les thrown a compliment at Gettleman in a

1545
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: big spot. I've complimented get him in a lot over

1546
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: the years. It's not until he decided to run the

1547
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 1: Giants like they were in nineteen forty eight team that

1548
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 1: I right he was a podcast favorite, let's be honest.

1549
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 1: Was that he became the boss of the Giants. I

1550
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 1: think when he came in and lied about Eli that

1551
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 1: he hasn't lost a step and he's every bit as

1552
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: good as he's always been. That really got him on

1553
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 1: my bedside, all right. I like the beginning part of

1554
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: the Gettleman conversation there. You're right, though, West I forgot

1555
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: he's a cancer survivor, so even more so, how are you,

1556
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: by the way, you had to check out recently I did.

1557
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 1: I've got another one coming up very soon. So so far,

1558
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 1: so good. All my scans have been clean and I

1559
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: feel good, beautiful. The mobility she's she's starting to feel

1560
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 1: she's entered a new stage where she's not like she's

1561
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: not enjoying her body as much as she did, you know,

1562
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. It's starting she's been She's a

1563
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 1: lot more fatigued. She just feels heavy, you know, you

1564
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 1: know how it is at the end, like Peyton Manning

1565
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 1: when he was getting pressure under the end of his career,

1566
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 1: just dropping down. She she has a different walking style

1567
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: now by necessity. Well she you're about a month away, right,

1568
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, and she has a human inside of her

1569
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 1: her body that's almost six pounds now that yeah, that's

1570
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: it's a lot to deal with, all right. This pod

1571
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 1: will stand tomorrow, so you'll have plenty of time to

1572
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: take it all in, and then we'll be back Saturday

1573
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 1: evening when round seven is complete, and we will recap

1574
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 1: the whole damn thing and also um share some winners

1575
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: and losers. So exciting, Dan, I want to play something

1576
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: for you. But before we get out of here, all right,

1577
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: who's this you'll see? Who? Say? Happy birthdays from beautiful

1578
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:11,560
Speaker 1: Belfast and all Dan, Happy fort from a beautiful sunny Afghanistan.

1579
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 1: I hope that you and the rest of the heroes

1580
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: are staying isolated and safe from COVID a k a.

1581
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: The biggest Go Hawks, Danny boy, Happy birthday, buddy. I

1582
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: just want to send a very special happy birthday shout

1583
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,560
Speaker 1: out to the old ducer himself, Mr Dan hands Is.

1584
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm wishing you peace and prosperity in there to come. Okay,

1585
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 1: they say boys in your thirty not Danny happy by

1586
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: a happy birthday. Happy birthday to Dan Hands. There's nobody

1587
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: else in the world who could host you around the

1588
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: NFL podcast in the way that you do. Pay Dan

1589
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: just wanted to wish you happy birthday. You want to

1590
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: give a happy birthday to Dan Well. The best to

1591
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: you and yours Stice safe and Go Hawks. Happy birthday, Dan.

1592
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: I wish happiness to you you and your family doing

1593
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: these times, and of course Sam Donald as well. Thanks

1594
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 1: are just our literal male man. I love birthday. I've

1595
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 1: been listening since the beginning in tween You'll always be

1596
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 1: the younger than me. I'm gonna have a Tito's tonight

1597
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 1: in your honor from DC. Hey dain On behalf of

1598
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 1: all of New England and be a handful of women

1599
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,679
Speaker 1: who do with adow. Happy birthday, Hey, Dan, just wanted

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01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 1: to say a happy birthday. Got the Big four? Oh

1601
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:30,679
Speaker 1: going this birthdays for day Birthday from Ireland, best podcast

1602
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 1: in my mind and I just want to wish my

1603
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 1: birthday twin a happy birthday Birthday. Thanks for all you do.

1604
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 1: Dan hands us slot On to make it Big four

1605
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 1: We do, sir, Happy fourth year all the way from

1606
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 1: gun to in Belgium by your happy scrab happy birthday.

1607
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: Then You've always been my favorite here right Happy birthday

1608
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 1: dance from Bunkers in Finland. Dan Police complain to us

1609
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 1: as you guys are keeping me saying through the pandemic.

1610
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 1: So happy for your birthday. Girls do listen a football

1611
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 1: podcast too. Happy birthday and I'm gonna let you make

1612
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: happy birthday. I want to thank you so much for

1613
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: everything you do. You bring joining so many people's lives

1614
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: or to use all today we are all just days

1615
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: appreciate Jean salute. Happy birthday from me and he's in us.

1616
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: I think it by your birthday, scrub spam forty years

1617
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: since the world was Greece with the zooster. Happy birthday, man,

1618
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: don't do anything that most of us wouldn't do. Good.

1619
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 1: I am Happy birthday from Australia. Dan. Did you know

1620
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 1: that the average watch spain of an American Now he's

1621
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 1: less than I use from now. Happy birthday? Alright. You

1622
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 1: are a wonderful time, intelligent, funny, handsome human being and

1623
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: I feel very lucky to know you into work with

1624
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: you over the years. I hope you have a great

1625
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 1: day and I'll see you soon. It's done well, none

1626
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 1: of this, uh, welcome to you fullies. I did him

1627
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: suck Now you're gonna make me cry. You make me

1628
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 1: fry on the internet. That was emotional. That was very sweet.

1629
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: That was so nice. Thank you Erica for putting that together.

1630
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: And thank you and know you were just a few.

1631
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 1: I mean that the amount that was sent in, Dan,

1632
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: it's overwhelming. You are You're such a special guy. And

1633
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: those the females were actual listeners, not hired talent. Yeah no,

1634
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 1: I didn't hire love. We love our female listeners and

1635
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 1: all the blokes out there as well. That that was

1636
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: so nice, So thank you for that. I really appreciate it.

1637
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 1: And I'm very happy to be doing what I do

1638
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: and being alive. And that is true. I did look

1639
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: it up. Actually, the male life expectancy is seventy nine.

1640
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 1: So I love seeing so many different looks and accents.

1641
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,839
Speaker 1: I mean, what a wide variety we have as listeners.

1642
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: Interesting people. I love seeing. Zach Goldman are our former producers. Look,

1643
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's on a whole another one. It

1644
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 1: was America not even threatened. Letting him be on that

1645
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 1: reel was very nice, although she put him second to last.

1646
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 1: She didn't want to give him like the closer, you know.

1647
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: Sydney also sent in a greedy all right, thank thank

1648
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 1: you for that. Thank you to all the listeners, and

1649
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: thank you to everyone for listening. And we'll be back

1650
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 1: on Saturday. And I'm gonna drink this Tito's right now

1651
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: in honor of all you find people, including my podcast mates,

1652
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: drink too. This is Dan handsOn signing off for The

1653
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm and the Mailman, the Old Boss, Ricky Hollywood

1654
01:23:37,080 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: and all you people out there Stills Saturday night. See