1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. This is Thursday. So 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: we have the group with us. We have Kyle Olsen, 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: Sarah Broadwater, and of course me Tutor Dixon, and we 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: want to talk about what's going on in the country. Kyle, 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: you were talking about this and so I wanted to 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: bring it up because the US Surgeon General has now 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: declared gun violence a public health crisis. They've been trying 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: to do this for years. They've talked about it back 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: and forth. It's so funny to me, because, like, are 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: you not seeing that the crisis here is that you 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: are letting people who are committing violent crimes out. They 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: don't even go to jail. I mean, look at California, 13 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: but look here in Michigan. It's the same. These people. 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: They should be on a list, They should know this 15 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: is going to happen. They shouldn't even be on a list. 16 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: They should be in jail. There is a solution to this, 17 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: but this is now the solution, right. 18 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: So Vivig Murphy is the Surgeon General and he's saying 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: that there are several things that the US Congress and 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: states should pass to what he calls to eliminate what 21 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: he calls gun violence. And he's saying that the US 22 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: should ban automatic rifles, which I thought automatic weapons were 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: not legal, Introduce universal background checks for purchasing guns, regulate 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: the industry whatever that means. I thought the industry was 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: heavily regulated. Pass laws that would restrict their use in 26 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: public spaces and penalize people who fail to safely store 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: their weapons. Pass laws that would restrict their use in 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: public spaces. Does that mean you can't if you're in public, 29 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: you can't defend yourself. 30 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: It just I would say that's no more open carry 31 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: or conceal carry. You're not going to be able to 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: carry a gun with you anywhere. And we know what 33 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: that means. That means that the only person with a 34 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: gun is the bad guy with a gun. And so 35 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: the number of times that we don't even hear about 36 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: somebody being protected because they have a gun, and I 37 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: would argue this is the great equalizer for women in 38 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: a country right now where women are a threat constantly. 39 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: We've just seen the murder of the mother of five, 40 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: We've just seen the murder of the twelve year old girl. 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: We see Lake and Riley Ruby Garcia. What do we 42 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: have to defend ourselves? If suddenly you've got somebody saying, oh, 43 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: because there's bad guys with guns, we're going to take 44 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: away all guns, which is always always what they say. 45 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: That's always what they say. The answer is. The other 46 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: thing that bothers me is penalize people who fail to 47 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: safely store their weapon. And I and this is something 48 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: we've talked about on the podcast before because obviously I 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: agree with these families who have had issues like this 50 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: that their child has gone someplace and the weapon wasn't 51 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: stored and a tragedy occurred. I don't understand how penalizing 52 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: someone after the fact is helping. Why are we not 53 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: if you are claiming this, why not do an education campaign? 54 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: Why not started talking about this? Like he talks about 55 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: this and says he's comparing this to cigarettes, right, He's like, Oh, 56 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: we did this sin in this eighties, seventies, eighties with cigarettes, 57 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: and we started getting people away from cigarettes. Okay, but 58 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: wait a minute, that was a very personal health decision 59 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 1: and you could choose to stop smoking on your own. 60 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: So I see the same thing when it comes to 61 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: safe storage. Yeah, for safe storage, you can do that. 62 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: You could have a whole campaign. If he thinks that 63 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: they were successful with cigarettes by doing that, then why 64 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: not do that with safe storage? But you cannot do 65 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: that with people using their gun or carrying their gun. 66 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: Well, and every single rule he lists here is demonizing 67 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: the gun industry. In reality, what he could do is 68 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: go and make nice with this industry and encourage them 69 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: to work together towards this goal. But if you're going 70 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: after every single thing this this industry stands for and 71 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: you're not enabling them to do business, how are they 72 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: going to work with you on education campaign? Like, in 73 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: my mind, wouldn't it be just lovely if you had 74 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: safe storage advocates working with gun manufacturers and every gun 75 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: that sold includes this safe storage unit. I mean almost 76 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: every gun you buy now, at least if you buy 77 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: it a new includes like the lock system that you 78 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: have to use, which is not the cleanest of ways 79 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: to do it, especially if you want to keep it 80 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: in your house. So why is there not a way 81 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: to work together instead of just continuously going after people? 82 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: And I read a story this week in about a 83 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: nonprofit which I won't name because I'm still looking into 84 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: it and I don't want. 85 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: To reveal your scoop. 86 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's not a scoop, but I don't want 87 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: to give them credit if they don't deserve the credit. 88 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: But there's an organization that is working to basically try 89 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: to eliminate what they call gun violence, people using guns 90 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: for crimes. And so what they're trying to do is 91 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: in gang situations or those sorts of situations, they're trying 92 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 2: to intervene to sort of diffuse the situation before it 93 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: turns into people shooting each other, which I think is 94 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 2: in because here's it's a nonprofit that is working in 95 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 2: communities to try to do that, versus having people sitting 96 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: in state capitals just you know, issuing orders. So maybe 97 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: that is an option. So because you can look at 98 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: the data, you can look at maps and see where 99 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: people are using guns to you know, exact revenge or 100 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: whatever their motivation is, and so those are the sort 101 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: of the hotspots, well, then maybe nonprofits and resources and 102 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: all of that should be trained on those communities and 103 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: on those areas versus this sort of you know, shotgun 104 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: approach for lack of a better term, infringing on everyone's rights. 105 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 3: Well, and the Democrats always issue edicts and then they 106 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: assume that everyone's going to follow them but in reality, 107 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: if you're using a gun for a crime, do you 108 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: really think you are content earned what the law says, 109 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: especially if you know that you're not going to be 110 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: prosecuted for it to begin with. So he's just creating 111 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: more rules that the Democrats are not going to follow. 112 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 3: At the end of the day, are dumb prosecutor is 113 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: going to go after all these things finally now because 114 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: they're not going after the current laws on the books. 115 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: Well my issue with this though, again is lawmakers pass laws. 116 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: They convince these people that this is going to be 117 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: folks like this guy who I mean, you know, he's 118 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: the US Surgeon General. So people want to listen to him, 119 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: and they listen to him in the Lancing bubble or 120 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: the DC bubble, and they say, man, that's a really 121 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: good idea. We got to pass this law. No one knows, 122 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: No one knows the laws passed. And the thing is 123 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: that going after these people, like you say, in these 124 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: communities where they're exacting revenge on one another and a 125 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: kid gets caught in the crossfire, a kid pulls a 126 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: gun out of the couch and shoots themselves, those communities 127 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: are not hearing this message. And I don't believe that 128 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: those kids are being protected because after the fact, you 129 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: get in trouble for leaving a gun out. And maybe 130 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, maybe I'll be found wrong about that, but 131 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: I do think that if you are going to compare 132 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: this to like the campaign against cigarettes, well then that 133 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: was an education campaign that was making people aware, and 134 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: cigarettes had one purpose to smoke them and make you 135 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: feel the effects of nicotine. And people found out, well, gosh, 136 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: if I do this, there's a danger to me. So 137 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: they got rid of cigarette, they stopped smoking all together. 138 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: Guns have more than one purpose. It's not like you're 139 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: just you just have a gun to go exact revenge. 140 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: You could have a gun for hunting, you could have 141 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: a gun for protection, and you use again for multiple 142 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: different reasons. People aren't going to just say, you know what, 143 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to get rid of my gun altogether. So 144 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: while I agree people should be taught how to safely 145 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: store their gun, the way it's being they go about 146 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: it is not right. And I would say that this 147 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: is something that we've seen here in Michigan. Again, you 148 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: mentioned are you going to pass these laws and not 149 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: do anything about them? Because this is what we've seen 150 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: in Michigan, and a few months ago you came to 151 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: me and you said, there are people who who had 152 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: children that were either shot or killed at the Michigan 153 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: State University shooting, and they say they have not received 154 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: any information from Michigan government or not nearly what they 155 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: expected the reaction to be. And so this is where 156 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: I say, these people come out and say this, these politicians, 157 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: and generally it's the left coming out, like all this 158 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: big declaration, our hearts are broken, We're going to campaign 159 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: on this stuff and keeping kids safe. But then they 160 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: don't do it. 161 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I talked directly with family members of 162 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 3: kids that were shot at I mean, and actually two 163 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: of the kids that had passed away, and they said 164 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: that they met with administration officials in the days after. 165 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: Of course, they all wanted to be in front of 166 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: the camera. They were as loving as could possibly be 167 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: and as heartbroken for them, and made a lot of 168 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 3: promises that they were going to be included in part 169 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: of the process so that this would never happen again. Well, 170 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: months later, you know that you get invited to campus 171 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: to see the improvements that they're doing. And one story 172 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: that was explicitly told to me by. This was the 173 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 3: mother of one of the students. They went on campus 174 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 3: to go watch this new siren system that they'd put 175 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 3: in place, that they said, this was going to stop everything. 176 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: Kids were going to stop on their tracks and they 177 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: were going to know what they needed to do to 178 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: avoid this violence. And they played the siren and the 179 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: mom was sitting there watching as students just continued about 180 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: their business, and she stopped one of the students and said, 181 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: do you know what that siren is? I mean, are 182 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: you concerned about that at all? And the student was like, well, 183 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to get to class. 184 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. 185 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 3: They're probably testing something new. 186 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: Me. 187 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying again, if you don't explain 188 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: what you're doing, it has no effect. They own the 189 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: media and they love the media spotlight. They love to 190 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: have the media come out and put a narrative out 191 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: there and scared the pants off of people. But when 192 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: it comes to a solution, which I don't believe a 193 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: siren system, it is not a solution to protecting kids. 194 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: It is a message to go run. That is not 195 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: a solution to protecting kids. And I think that's kind 196 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: of also how the parents felt in that situation. But regardless, 197 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: if that is your solution, and we have to accept 198 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: that that's what the Michigan government has decided, how could 199 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: you not tell anybody? 200 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: I mean, well, what. 201 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: Is the solution if everybody's like, oh, what's that sound? 202 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: I think it's also just the easiest, most public thing 203 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: that they could do. This is the quickest thing we 204 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 3: can do. We can bring the media out, we can 205 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: show them, they can get b or all of it. 206 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 3: I think it's the quickest possible way for them to 207 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 3: say they're doing something. And I'm not saying, like I 208 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: know these parents in particular had explicit things that they 209 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 3: would like to recommend and see done. I'm not saying 210 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 3: that they had the perfect answer either, but it just 211 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 3: seems very cold to me to not include them in 212 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 3: the process more and to make them feel like they 213 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: are being heard in this and then also just doing 214 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 3: something that actually works and matters proving that out. 215 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: Well, And why don't you say, Kyle, I want to 216 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: bring up a story that you did I think last 217 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: week that Michigan is the second most island state in 218 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: the whole entire country, and so how is the siren 219 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: system going to help that? 220 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: Well, that's I think that the struggle here is that 221 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: there is no easy fix. I mean I watched the 222 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: whole Michigan State situation closely because I went to Michigan State. 223 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: I had lectures in that hall where that took place. 224 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: And it's not a matter of just putting locks on 225 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 2: the doors or sending text messages out, because they they 226 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: sent text messages out in the campus. The Michigan State 227 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: campus is so huge. You know, you had people locking 228 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 2: down a mile away from where that took place because 229 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: the campus is so big and so so many of 230 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: the quote unquote solutions are just not practical and are 231 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: not actually going to do anything. But you know, they 232 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: decide to spend tons of money on door locks or 233 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: you know, whatever it is, and it doesn't actually what 234 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: is that actually going to accomplish. 235 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 236 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. But nobody will tell the truth. 237 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: And this is what makes me mad about the media 238 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: here in Michigan. There was a plan from the Michigan 239 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: State Police that went to Gretchen Wimmer in twenty nineteen, 240 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: and now this wasn't not higher ed and believe this 241 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: is k through twelve that their plan was to keep 242 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: kids safe. I've talked to people who have been a 243 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: part of that plan. I've talked to the Michigan State Police. 244 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: They tell me that not a single part of that 245 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: plan has been implemented by Gretchen Wimmer. In fact, they 246 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: explicitly told me, had that plan been implemented before Oxford, 247 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: it's likely Oxford would not have happened. And to me 248 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,359 Speaker 1: that is devastating. And the fact that the media allows 249 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: her to walk around and say she cares so much 250 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: about children and taking care of kids in schools. Still, 251 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: we've got one of our state reps who tells us 252 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: every single time we see them, they won't move. The 253 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: Dems now have control, they won't move anything on school safety. 254 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: It's like it makes me mad because it was something 255 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: that I genuinely took seriously running for office, like how 256 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: can we improve the state for our kids for the future. 257 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: And I think about it every day when my kids 258 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: go to school. Every day, when you drop your kids 259 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: off at school, you think about that. The fact that 260 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe because her kids are out of 261 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: school now, she doesn't care. It's not top of mine. 262 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: But that's not an excuse because that's not her role. 263 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: She has chosen to ignore this. 264 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not it's just it's not a good situation. 265 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: And so as she tries to, you know, campaign for president, 266 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: I think it's really important to actually look at these 267 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: things and say, what is her record? And her record 268 00:13:54,040 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: is not good. And so the Democrats this week are 269 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: most likely passing a budget that is forty percent higher 270 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: than forty percent bigger than when she first took office. 271 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: That's how much they are increasing spending on everything except 272 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: apparently the roads. But it's I mean, but until people 273 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: actually hold her accountable, whether it's the media or it's 274 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: the legislature of whoever it is, none of this is 275 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: going to change. 276 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: Well, I think, I mean, that's funny that you mentioned that, 277 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: because in twenty twenty, the teachers union certainly weren't going 278 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: to go to her and be like, hey, the kids 279 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: are suffering, opening back up the schools. And then because 280 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: she kept the schools closed and she was all about 281 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: I want to make sure the teachers are safe. The 282 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: teachers union, now, the teachers union has always been for Dems, 283 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: but they poured a ton of money into her campaign, 284 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: and they have continuously poured money into her campaigns and 285 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: her office and everything else and been huge supporters of her. 286 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: And she's raised the budget for education. And now she's 287 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: about to leave office, and what she decided to do. 288 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: She decides to raid the money for the teachers. And 289 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: she's letting your Democrats do it too. They're all interested, 290 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: they all have their secret private projects. And I mean, 291 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: you know what, I think that a lot of these 292 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: people that are state reps run because they have a 293 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: personal reason that they want to change something to government 294 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: for their own personal benefit. It's the wrong reason. I've 295 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: heard Republicans are saying it. I've heard Democrats doing it. 296 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: The woman who put this bill in for Hollywood tax 297 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: credits to come to Michigan. It's been done in Michigan. 298 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't work, it's been done before. But she's a 299 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: former producer, and now a state rep wants to bring 300 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: this to Michigan. The teachers union and the teachers groups 301 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: are like, what are you talking about. This is going 302 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: to take all the money from us. Not only that, 303 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: now she's raiding the teacher's pension too, which it took 304 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: years to get that on track, and that was through 305 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: I think multiple governors were finally was on track and 306 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: we had a plan. Now she's going in and rating that. 307 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: So all of these blowney lines about how much she 308 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: cares about the teachers and the schools and making sure 309 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: the teachers. She's taking money right out of the teacher's 310 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: pockets now, But. 311 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: Don't you think the cynic in me would say that 312 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: they are able. She's doing this because she knows she 313 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: can get away with it, because the MAA, the Michigan 314 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: Education Association, and the AFT will support her anyway, and 315 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: they will support the Democrats anyway. 316 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, who are they going to go to. They can't suddenly. 317 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 3: I mean, you think Randy Weingarten and all of the 318 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: state level folks that work for her are going to 319 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: suddenly start supporting Republicans. That's just not going to happen. 320 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: Right, No, that's true. 321 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: So the two things that are going on right now 322 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: as we speak is her budget proposal. So it's the 323 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: state pays into the teacher pension system every year and 324 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: tries to keep it somewhat solvent, and it's which is 325 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: always an issue you but she's proposing this year to 326 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 2: divert six hundred and thirty million dollars which would go 327 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 2: as the pension payment to go to other things e 328 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 2: Bikes and you know, their their whole green agenda. So 329 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: that's one issue. And then the other issue is during 330 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: the Jennifer Grant Home years, if you want to go 331 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: back that far, Michigan had these film incentives, so Hollywood 332 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 2: film companies would come to Michigan and make movies in Michigan. Now, 333 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: when you actually look at the movies that were made 334 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 2: in Michigan, it's they They primarily went to Detroit because 335 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: it was a burned out like that, and so that 336 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 2: was Transformers. There was some movie that they made, I 337 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 2: think it was. 338 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 3: Trans Worlds versus Michigan, you. 339 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: Know, Shells of Buildings, and it just that's what they 340 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: made in Michigan. So that instead of going to you know, 341 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: some betiful part of the state Mcina Island or whatever, 342 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: they go to the worst parts of the state and 343 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 2: we're paying Michigan taxpayers are paying for that. So anyway, 344 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 2: so the point is they want to create these these 345 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 2: they want to bring that program back. And now the 346 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: school groups are coming out and saying, if you do 347 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: these film credits, that's going to take money away from schools, 348 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 2: which is interesting. It's true. I've never seen them say 349 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: that before. 350 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but Whitmer spokesperson came out and was I mean 351 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: you were pointing out there. They're really like, what are 352 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: you gonna do about it? 353 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 3: I think the Whitmer's team is now essentially holding them hostage. 354 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: So this I think this budget has to be passed 355 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 3: by July first, and now Whitmer's team is saying, well, 356 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 3: if you don't support this lesser budget, we're going to 357 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 3: get none of it. So it's this game of chicken 358 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 3: now of you either get no funding if you say 359 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: a word, or you suck it up and you take 360 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 3: your lesser funding. 361 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: This is how they are treating our schools. Are schools 362 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: that are actual a total disaster. I just want to 363 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: go back to the Hollywood thing for a second, because 364 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: I think what happened in New York this week in 365 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: the primary was interesting because we saw Jamal Bowman, who 366 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: didn't win reelection in his campaign. He came out remember 367 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: last week when they had that rally, and he and 368 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: AOC came out and they were jumping around in like 369 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: ridiculous old m stools, and honestly, I was like, oh, gosh, please, 370 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: I hope I never looked like this, but I honestly. 371 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: That's your no dance rule. Though you have a no 372 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 3: dance rule. 373 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: So this is why I yes, because they looked. Why 374 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: you're laughing like I did? I didn't ever dance, did I? 375 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: No? 376 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: I think you and Glenn Younkin didn't. I see that 377 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: you were like little toe tap was going on there. 378 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: I don't remember that. 379 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: I hope I do remember that. 380 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: I was not jumping around or certainly not cursing like 381 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: they were. Jamal Bowman was so gross. Yeah, that was 382 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: so disgusting to me. And I just thought it was 383 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: because you see, like Hollywood weighing in on this. So 384 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: that's like the Hollywood connection to this. Because Cynthia Nixon 385 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: comes out and she tweets Bowman is the last congress 386 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: person of color in a New York district, not holy 387 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: in New York City. Now we had to like figure 388 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: out what exactly. Wait, wait, what is she saying? So 389 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: there are people of color, but this is the one 390 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: district that is in New York and outside of New York, 391 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: and so they don't have a person of color. But 392 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: and she says money came in from outside groups. You 393 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: know why, this says nothing to do. And this is 394 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: what makes me mad about people being like, oh, well, 395 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: let's just look at the person based on how they 396 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: look rather than who they are, because this is a 397 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: guy who came out with antisemitic rhetoric, horrible things. A 398 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: true bigot. You cannot say that a person looks a 399 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: certain way, they can't be a bigot. This guy was 400 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: a bigot. He said terrible things. And it wasn't Republicans 401 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: that came out against him. I mean, certainly enough did, 402 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: but this was people who know what's right and wrong. 403 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: These were Democrats who came I mean a Democrat beat him. 404 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 1: It's not like a Republican beat him. A Democrat. This 405 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: is the primary Democrat beat him. Hollywood is so twisted. 406 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: Their minds are so messed up that she saw him 407 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: going out there and saying these horrendous things about Jewish people, 408 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: and she was like, how dare they do that to him? 409 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: They discriminated what in the. 410 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 3: World, Well, in the number of stipulations she has to 411 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: put on the categorization of him and where he lives 412 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 3: and where he works, it's just it's so unrealistic. But 413 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: then I think The other part of this is she's 414 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 3: complaining about money coming in from outside places. I mean, 415 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: I know she's talking about APAC and a couple of 416 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 3: the Jewish organizations, but it's just again the hypocriticalness of this, 417 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 3: Like Democrats do this all the time and bring outside 418 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: money in for abortion, for marijuana, for candidates they like. 419 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just you can't get past it. You're 420 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: gonna have money coming in from out of state. Would 421 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 3: I obviously prefer a candidate fundraise from their home state 422 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 3: or their home district. Yes, but that's just not the 423 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 3: way it works anymore. I mean you're talking. 424 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: Well, it's Democrats that are doing it. I mean, we 425 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: are up against so much. It's not the Republicans that 426 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: have endless cash. 427 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 3: Republicans wish that we were bringing in. 428 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: Where are you Republicans from out of state? With all them? 429 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 3: I mean, this was I think I was reading that 430 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 3: this was the most expensive congressional race in history. So, 431 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: I mean they did spend a little lot. 432 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: You know. That makes me happy because that means that 433 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: Jewish people have someone standing for them, and that's what 434 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: America is about. When you have people that are discriminated 435 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: against and treated poorly, and somebody who gets into power 436 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: that has anti Semitic views, America takes care of that. 437 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: We vote them out. They are no longer there. They 438 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: don't have that control. 439 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: I think one of the most disturbing things about Jamal 440 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: Bowman was that before he was in Congress, he was 441 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: a He was a school principal in New York City. 442 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 2: How in the world does somebody like that become a 443 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: school principal and not only become one, but remain one. 444 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 3: Very good point. I actually never even put that together 445 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 3: what he was teaching kids. 446 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: He was watching him at that rally and when he 447 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: remember he pulled the fire alarm. Yeah, he's that guy 448 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: is a nut. And I watched one of his interview 449 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: or he was like a selfie video or something after 450 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 2: the rally, and he was talking about, you know, like 451 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 2: every other word was ceasefire. Yeah, it's like just part 452 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 2: of his you know, his the thing he says. And 453 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: I thought, how many how many of his constituents, like 454 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: things are not good in America right now and with 455 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 2: inflation then you know, all of everything, and how many 456 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 2: of his constituents really have the time to sit around 457 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: and think about a ceasefire? 458 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 459 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast. And now you hear people coming 460 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: out and saying like he's a truly angry guy. This 461 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: he yells at people in the video is coming out 462 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: of him yelling at people. And then he yelled at 463 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: him his concessions. I mean, he yelled at that weird 464 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: thing with AOC like really angry. And I think it's interesting. 465 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: There are certain people that I think, I mean, it's 466 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: not you know someone personally when generally when you vote 467 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: for them, so you don't know exactly how they're going 468 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: to treat people. I mean, and we've heard of people 469 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: on both sides of the Shila Jackson Lee story and 470 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: that was scary how she treated employees, a lot of swearing, 471 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: a lot of belittling. But I think that this happens 472 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: on both sides of the aisle and somebody gets a 473 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: little bit of power, and in certain cases those people 474 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: are they can't handle it. They treat people badly, and 475 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: that's why that should be exposed and you vote them out. 476 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: They shouldn't be able to say and I mean, it happens, 477 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: but this is the result of bad behavior. I mean, 478 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: what could be worse pulling and he was on video 479 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: pulling the fire alarm. 480 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: During a vote with the intention of subverting democracy. 481 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: But he didn't go to jail for trying to to 482 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: stop an official proceeding. What is it like, that's what 483 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: they sent everybody to solitary confinement for for j six 484 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: and he's just walking around swearing. 485 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I was looking it up because I wanted 486 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 3: to see if he was also a convicted felon or 487 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 3: not for this, but of course not. It says any 488 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: charges will be dropped in three months if mister Bowman 489 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 3: provides a formal apology to the Capitol Police and pays 490 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 3: the one thousand dollars fine. 491 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: Why couldn't the other people have a formal apology? And 492 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: the people I mean, and I know that there were 493 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: people that broke windows and did property had the property 494 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: damage on January sixth, people in jail. There are plenty 495 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: of them who walked in that building. And I'm not 496 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: making excuses for them, but come on. 497 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 3: I'm asking for the same standard at. 498 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: Least exactly exactly. This is ridiculous. And I mean, even 499 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: this woman that I was sending you guys the article 500 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: about the other day that they're going after the eighty 501 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: six year old woman who was protesting outside of an 502 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: abortion clinic, and now they're pumped through her in jail potentially. 503 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: I mean, what is happening on our side. It's ridiculous. 504 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: I'll just end this by saying, you go back to 505 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,239 Speaker 1: Michigan having this horrible violence problem, and now you've got 506 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: two of the poorest cities too. Something I just heard 507 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: that this morning. 508 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: That you, yeah, we've got Michigan has two of the 509 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: poorest cities in the country. Flint is number one and 510 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: Detroit is number three. 511 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: I mean, how can you how can you go after 512 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: this little old woman at an abortion clinic when you've 513 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: got all this violence, when you've got I mean, i'd 514 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: say what Whitmer's done the Michigan is criminal. I mean, 515 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: she's lost half of our fortune five hundred companies, and 516 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: we didn't have that many to start with. And I 517 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: mean she's destroyed us with these climate policies. It's just 518 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: at some point you've got to hold people accountable. New 519 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: York saw that this week. They saw what it looks 520 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: like when you act a fool and you get voted out. 521 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: And I just hope that people are seeing this. I 522 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: think we need to go back to a time when 523 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: you have respect, you go out and you debate respectfully, 524 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: you use truth when you are out campaigning. And that's something. 525 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: Just the other thing, this cheap fakes thing that we 526 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: talked about last week, I thought about that more. I'm like, 527 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: think of all this stuff that they manipulated just during 528 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 1: our campaign, all of the audio that they pushed together 529 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: and they made, and even Whimmer admitted that she knew 530 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: that wasn't what I had said. They are the masters 531 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: of manipulation and lies, and it's time to hold them accountable. 532 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: Well, and they get away with it. I mean just 533 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 3: last week, Whitmer had this glowing sit down interview with 534 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: The New York Times that was on their podcast, and 535 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: it was on I think it was the Sunday Paper, 536 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: and gosh, you want to talk about an interview where 537 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 3: she just got to say whatever she wanted was zero 538 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: fact checking. I mean, she provided no statistics and numbers 539 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: for all of the things that she said. I mean, 540 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 3: her vision of Michigan sounds really great. I would love 541 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 3: to live in maybe her actual vision of Michigan that 542 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 3: she's talking about, but she's living in La la Land 543 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 3: because there's no businesses. I mean, I obviously moved to 544 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 3: Michigan this last year officially after the campaign, and moving 545 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: here versus some of the other states that I've lived in, Indiana, Ohio, DC, even, 546 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 3: there's so many things that I'm like, why is it 547 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 3: like this here? 548 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: One of our favorite family restaurants is closing in Kalamazoo, 549 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: and I think that's devastating. But Kalamazoo is a total 550 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: hell whole now. Nobody can have a business there. There's 551 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: people shooting up on the streets, no one to try 552 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: to help them get out of that situation. We talked 553 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: to the women the other day about drug abuse. It's 554 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: like they had such great points. That podcast was very 555 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: interesting to me because I thought, you know, they're right, 556 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: No one cares. No one wants to. They want to 557 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: find a place to put them and clean the street 558 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: and move them away and then they'll move back. But 559 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: they don't want to actually get these people off of 560 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: drugs or try to help them in any way. Kalamazoo 561 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: is a dump. You've got this situation with the right 562 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: aids all leaving Michigan. I mean, everything is leaving. You 563 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: talk about the two headquarters. Dealiantis is now going to 564 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: lay off a bunch of people. Kelloggs is leaving, all 565 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: of these places are leaving this state. And yet you're 566 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: right that magazine or newspapers they don't push back at 567 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: all and say, oh wait a minute, your vision of 568 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: what you present as Michigan is not the reality for 569 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: people living on the ground. So if I'm in Iowa 570 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 1: or if I'm in Utah and I read that article, 571 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: I think Michigan looks pretty good, and you know, maybe 572 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: she'd make a great president because her economy is fantastic 573 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: her the state is thriving as all lies. 574 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 3: Well, it's funny you bring up the topic of how 575 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: you you know, when someone big comes in, you clean 576 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 3: up the streets to get the drug use of the 577 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 3: homeless people off the street. That's literally what they're doing 578 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 3: for Gretchen Wimmer right now. She wants to run for president, 579 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 3: whether it's the cycle or the next one, and they 580 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: are cleaning up the streets where they need to, or 581 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: cleaning up the stories whatever they need to of Michigan 582 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 3: to make her look great. Yes, for her presidential run, 583 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 3: it's got to like they met stop the streets. 584 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: By making her look like this wonderful. But it's funny 585 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: because you see her interviewed in that interview where she 586 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: pretends like she can't hear or. 587 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: I are you there? 588 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the minute she gets out a tough question, she 589 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: doesn't know know how to answer, and that's why she 590 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: struggled in the debates. And I know everybody's talking about 591 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: the debate tonight and what's that going to be like? 592 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: And I do think that you watch carefully whether or 593 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: not the people understand what's happening. And it was funny 594 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: after the debate, so many people said to me, man, 595 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: there was not a question you were stumped on. And 596 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, I take it seriously that I'm asking you'd 597 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: allow me to serve you. So I want to learn 598 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: everything I possibly can and make sure I know when 599 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: you walk into these debates. People assume that the person 600 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: who is already in the office knows. So like you've 601 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: heard people say, oh, Donald Trump won't be a problem 602 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: because he's already had it, Joe Biden already knows he's president. No, 603 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: you go in there prepared and Grutchen Wimer didn't prepare, 604 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: and no one called her on it. 605 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,959 Speaker 2: Right, and she is right now I think she is 606 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: just her persona is on social media and she puts 607 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 2: out these tweets about abortion, and you know, we're fixing 608 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 2: the roads and we're doing all of these wonderful things. 609 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: But there's no media in the state of Michigan that 610 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 2: I'm seeing that is willing to challenge her or even 611 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: maybe I should say even has access to her to 612 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 2: challenge her. Good point, and which is a whole nother 613 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: discussion about, well, then why are they not demanding the 614 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: access or refusing to cover her until they get the access. 615 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 3: But it just it's a very similar actually it's a 616 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 3: good comparison potentially of debates of what it could be 617 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 3: like tonight with Joe Biden and Trump, because very similar situation. 618 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 3: Whitmer was never pressed by the media. She never did 619 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 3: interviews that her team did not explicitly know what was 620 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 3: going into them, or some Instagram video of her doing 621 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 3: a cooking show and she had her lines prepared, yes, 622 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 3: that she was going to say, but they weren't factual, 623 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 3: and of course the moderators did not call her on it, 624 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 3: but you did. And so that's the thing is, if 625 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: Trump can effectively call Joe Biden on his bluffs and 626 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 3: catch him on those things. That's where the magic could happen. 627 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 3: And that's exactly what happened with you and Whitmer at 628 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 3: the time, because you literally were the only one that 629 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 3: actually told the truth on her because the media wasn't 630 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:18,959 Speaker 3: going to do it. 631 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: And I do still credit Governor Doucy because he called 632 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: me early that day before the first debate and he said, 633 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: what do you need And I said, any advice you 634 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: can give me, and he said, don't think about your 635 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: answer carefully, listen to hers and think about what she's 636 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: not telling the truth about. And that I think was 637 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: so important because man, I was the only person that 638 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: was going to fact check her, and I knew not 639 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: only all of what I wanted to do with the state, 640 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: all of the destructions she had caused, and that when 641 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: people asked me about this, you don't really get to 642 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: talk about it on the news stations to get like 643 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: three minutes right. So when people ask me, well, what 644 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: do you think about Joe Biden preparing this much? Now 645 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: you've got to go through every scenario. But for Trump 646 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: it's going to be worse. It's going to be they 647 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: are going to try to trap him and same with 648 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: Gretchen Whitmer. They're not going to try to trap Biden. 649 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: They're not gonna at when he says something, you know what. 650 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: They won't to ask about the laptop. If they do, 651 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: if Trump brings it up, they're going to cover it up. 652 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: All of these things. They will protect him. Trump has 653 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: to be so on it tonight. It's gonna be a 654 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: tough situation because it's not a fair debate. He accepted this, 655 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: and I think it's fantastic. I think it shows that 656 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: the strength that he has willing to go up against 657 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: three people, because that's the truth of what's happening tonight. 658 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: He's going up against three people. And I think that 659 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: if you're watching tonight, just know this is not walking 660 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: in and having a conversation. You have to be so 661 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: on it, and you are. Trump is not only tonight 662 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: the person who is the opponent of Joe Biden, but 663 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: he is also the moderator for Joe Biden because there's 664 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: no one else that's gonna hold him accountable. 665 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 3: It's true, they're going to assume the worst intentions for 666 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 3: Donald Trump and the best intentions for Biden. 667 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: And everything absolutely well. We are anxious to see it tonight. 668 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: We of course will be talking about it next week 669 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: and bringing all of our opinions to you, so we'll 670 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: let you know what we think. But if you guys 671 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: have any opinions, please go to the Tutor Dixon website 672 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: and send us an email because we'd love to share 673 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: some of that as well. We always love to hear 674 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: from you. But thanks so much for listening. We'll be 675 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: back here tomorrow on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Remember for 676 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: this episode, go to Tutor dixonpodcast dot com and you 677 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: can always check out the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or 678 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks so much for listening 679 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: and have a blessed day,