1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Welcome 4 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: back to the show. My name is Matt, my name 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: is They called me Ben. We are joined with our 6 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: super producer Paul Mission controlled deconds. Most importantly, you are you, 7 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this stuff they don't 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: want you to know. Paul. Just as an aside here, 9 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: your nickname is very appropriate for today's episode. We for 10 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: anyone who doesn't check the title of the podcast before listening, 11 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: we are as a species returning to the Moon. It's 12 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: been a it's been a huge dream about twenty one 13 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: million Americans that can vents that never happened, right, So 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: take that with a grain of salt. We have some 15 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: recent developments here in twenty nineteen that we're a long 16 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: time in the making. Humanities study the Moon dates back 17 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: way before recorded history, and it was only as recently 18 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: as the nineteen sixties. Again, if you believe the official 19 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: story that we actually managed to send bona fide, genuine 20 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: human beings to the lunar surface, and then after a 21 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: few manned moon missions, we just stopped. Yeah, we were done. 22 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: We found everything we needed to find. Um, you know, 23 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: the castles and extraterrestrial moon bases on there were kept 24 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: under wraps successfully. So yeah, we didn't need to do 25 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: anything else. And the mainstream narrative, of course, would be 26 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: the tremendous cost involved with every moon launch in across 27 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: every imaginal industry you could think of. But still we 28 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: can understand and how it seems strange to achieve something 29 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: so breathtaking and then just stop, you know what I mean. Yeah, 30 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: so this situation seemed set to be the new normal 31 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: that we would forever be in a in a near 32 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: Earth orbit limbo. Right, We'd have tons of spy satellites, 33 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: we'd have those things that can drop what what is it, 34 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: a rod, like a titanium rod. Have you guys heard 35 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: of these? Yeah, like a railgun. It would just drop 36 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: a rod from space onto its target and would hit 37 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: with such enormous force that it would it would be 38 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: like a nuclear bomb. It's a rail bomb, that's so 39 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: it would just detonate on impact. I don't know, doesn't 40 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: it would just wreck shop. Yeah, it would just knock 41 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: the heck out of something. Yeah, dude, And well, yeah, 42 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: it's weird to think that humans have stayed in that 43 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: near Earth orbit for all this time. If people go 44 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: into space, it's right outside and yeah, and it's a 45 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: very bad for you to live in such low gravity, right, 46 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: But be that as it may. Aside from the few 47 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: experiments that we had ongoing, and don't get us wrong, folks, 48 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: these are amazing innovative things. The International Space Station is 49 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: one of the most important structures humanity has ever built. 50 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: But it looked like that was going to be it 51 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: for us, that we were just going to be caught 52 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: in this cosmic purgatory, until the situation began to change, 53 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: especially in January of nineteen when China announced that it 54 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: had successfully landed a probe on the far side of 55 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: the moon, or you know we we sometimes call it 56 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: the dark side. Far side of the moon is the 57 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: hemisphere that never faces us. We're not on speaking terms 58 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: with it due to the Moon's rotation. Sometimes we call 59 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: it the dark side of the moon because that sounds, 60 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: let's be honest, incredibly cool. But it receives just as 61 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: much sunlight as the side that faces us. What that's 62 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: destroys all of my let down, Floyd lied to us. 63 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: They did. They did oh man, as my mother would say, 64 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: they didn't let the truth stand in the way of 65 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: a good story or concept album. Yeah, I've heard that too, 66 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: So what are what are the facts about this thing? 67 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: This probably popped up in most people's news feeds. But 68 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: what actually happened. Well, it's part of something called the 69 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: Change program and it's been going on for quite a 70 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: while now. But the the chang e four, the fourth 71 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: I guess uh phase of this program. It it achieved 72 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: the first soft landing on the dark side of the 73 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: moon on January three, twenty nineteen. That's this year, not 74 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: that long ago actually, And um, what was this thing? 75 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: Is that what you're asking? What was this? Well, it 76 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: was a relay satellite, a lunar lander, and a rover 77 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: named you Too Too. You t exactly has the amazing 78 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: translation of jade rabbit second Jade rabbit. Yeah, well, and 79 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: and YouTube this jade rabbit is actually a pet to change, 80 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: which was a goddess and moon goddess or is the 81 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: moon goddess? Yeah, and Chinese mythology, so we see it's 82 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: three different components. Right. First, they have to get the 83 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: relay satellite up there that is step one because direct 84 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: communication with Earth is impossible on the far side of 85 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: the Moon because there's an entire moon in the way, 86 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So communications have to hit 87 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: this relay satellite and it's placed in a location that 88 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: has a clear view of the landing area and planet Earth. 89 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 1: Nice good planning, so you know, we're we're not joking 90 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: at all about it. But it just we forget maybe 91 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: sometimes how much planning and ridiculous math that it takes 92 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: to do any one of these things, and then to 93 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: have all of them work in concert like this, It's 94 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: an incredible feat. Boggles the mind. It is not an 95 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: improv exercise for sure. On mayen, the China National Space 96 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: Administration or SINSA, launched the Magpie Bridge relay satellite to 97 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: Halo orbit around the Earth Moon L two point. This 98 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: was the first step, and the relay satellite was based 99 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: on a another earlier satellites design. We can tell you 100 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: some of the stats about it if you would like 101 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: to hear them. First off, it's incredibly heavy. It's nine 102 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: thirty seven pounds or for the rest of the world 103 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: four It's heavy, man, it is heavy. I mean, I 104 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: guess it's not heavy in space, but it seems like 105 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: a lot to get up there, you know, And it's 106 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: not that large, right, yeah, But it does have a 107 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: nice big old antenna. It's that's four point two meters 108 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: or fourteen feet for us UM and it receives the 109 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: it receives X band signals from the lander again, and 110 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: then it sends them down to Earth. Pretty cool stuff 111 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: and and I guess it can also send information the 112 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: other way if need be. And the relay satellite has 113 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: some help up there with a form of two micro satellites, 114 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: which is super cool in my opinion. It's I don't 115 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: know how any bitty they are, but it's just a 116 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: cool idea of a micro satellite working in conjunction with these. 117 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: It's called the Dragon River one, Dragon River two, or 118 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: long Jang and the first one that they sent up there, 119 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: lung Jang one, was unsuccessful, but the second iteration made it. 120 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: It is still going strong. Nice cute is a button. 121 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: Can you imagine the Pixar stories that will spring from this? 122 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: Oh Man, an anthropomorphized micro satellite sounds like oh in 123 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: the it's like a brother and sister can hang out 124 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: with Wally and that whole universe oh my gosh, and 125 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: they just want to help out the rover. We have 126 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of information about the land ander and 127 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: the rover, but it's it's somewhat limited. As you can understand, 128 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: the government wouldn't want to advertise any of the really 129 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: cool spooky stuff, right. So the lander has two cameras, 130 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: one for just landing and one for terrain as a spectrometer, 131 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: has something I had not heard of, a neutron dosameter, 132 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: and perhaps most interestingly, it has something called the lunar 133 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: micro ecosystem. This is so, this is mind blowing to me. 134 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: We've done experiments like this before our species, I mean, 135 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: but this is a little bit different. It's a sealed 136 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: biosphere that has seeds and insect eggs, and it's been 137 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: to measure their growth and development in space space space, space, 138 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: and specifically on the Moon and specifically on the moon. 139 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: Can we grow things on the moon? Huge question. They 140 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: have seeds of potatoes and a small flowering plant called ebidopsis. Yep, 141 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: you got this, ben that's actually is that's it? I 142 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: don't know you had a pregnant pause. It was the 143 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: second part of the of the of the of the name. 144 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: I figured it was apidosis specular. Um, yeah, right now, 145 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: I think it's just a pidopsis, and I'm probably mispronouncing. 146 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: It was that upward inflection that like had me on 147 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: the edge of my seat. It was that word was 148 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: like an obstacle course that I accidentally and blindly ran through. 149 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: You know, you got it right, do you think? So 150 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: we'll see a rebidopsis. Uh. Yeah, it's a small flowering plant. 151 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: It belongs to the mustard family. And the insect eggs 152 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: were actually silkworm cocoons. Very nice, and we mentioned those 153 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: two cameras. You can already see images. I guess it's 154 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: a video that is just an image sequence of the 155 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: lander actually landing, and it's always I mean, that's always 156 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: fun to watch and it will be scoured over by 157 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: the internet just for the for the rest what years, 158 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: see the pixels exactly exactly. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Uh. 159 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: This mission was originally scheduled for December. Uh. It is 160 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: meant to explore and assess this unexplored region of the Moon, 161 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: which South Pole, and the aim here is to learn 162 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: more about the age of the area and then to 163 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: facilitate the construction of technology needed to create a successful 164 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: lunar colony. Right, we've talked about it. We've talked about it. 165 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: I cannot wait to go. Oh my gosh, it's gonna 166 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: be dangerous. It's going to be not the most luxurious 167 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: place to live. But wouldn't you go? Would you go? 168 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: Would you go to a moon colony? No? Why not? Not? Unless? 169 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: I like not, unless stuff got so bad here that 170 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: it was like an absolute thing that was going to 171 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: save my and my family's life. I'm a big old whimp, 172 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: you guys. Not just to get in early, it's gonna say, 173 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: not just to visit? What am I like? Flying to 174 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: Los Angeles? It takes like five hours and then my 175 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: legs get really stiff. Going to the Moon. That just 176 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: sounds like a nightmare. How want would it take? Because 177 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: it do? We do? We know this. It takes about 178 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: three days for spacecraft to reach the Moon with current technology. Man, 179 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: I that noise, but are you serious? Sorry? It's just 180 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: spoil sports. It does sound amazing, And you know, maybe 181 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: if I had the opportunity, I might rethink it. Right now, 182 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm just being a curmudgeon. I'm a space you know, 183 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: I would have you know that about me? What if 184 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: it was a huge spacecraft that's just ostensibly a conspiracy 185 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: cruise that you got to take. I don't know, man, 186 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: I would be paranoid that we would just someone would 187 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: of course correct us, and we end up going into 188 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: the sun. They still haven't figured out who drilled that 189 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: hole in the I s s oh, that's true. Well, 190 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, I would have to just say and answer 191 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: to your question. I would do pretty much anything to 192 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: be able to follow in doc Rendezvous shoes. Yes. Oh, 193 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: we all of new T shirt out really cool. I 194 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: didn't even know what a pocket T was. It's apparently 195 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: a T where the design is like where the pocket 196 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: goes has advertised it's really cool. So I think our 197 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: our pals who work with us on the T shirt department, 198 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: I think they sensed our cartoonish excitement over the nickname 199 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: Dr buzz Rendezvous. So now we have shirt about it. Yeah, 200 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: and you can check out our public story at t 201 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: public dot com slash st d w y t K. 202 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: And there's an array of cool new design and that 203 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking at that I haven't seen before, So check 204 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: it out. This is the new doc rendevotion. It's not 205 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: up yet, but be looking for it in the near future, Yes, 206 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: could save and in the near future, let's look at 207 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: what the Chonggi for expects to accomplish. Ultimately, they want 208 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: to do stuff that sets them up for success later 209 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: on in this mission, which is an ongoing Star Trek 210 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: esque thing. First, this rover will measure the chemical compositions 211 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: of lunar rocks and soils. It will measure lunar surface temperature. 212 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: While it's out in the field. It will carry out 213 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: low frequency radio astronomical observation and research using a radio telescope, 214 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: which right now is going to be the envy of 215 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: every astronomer on this planet because it is one of 216 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: the quietest places to use this sort of telescope. Yeah, 217 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: and what a cool idea, just to get as little 218 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: interference as necessary. The the next thing, the next two 219 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: things actually looking at cosmic rays. That's cool, some powerful 220 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: things cosmic rays. Uh. And then to study the solar 221 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: corona and investigate the radiation that's coming off of the 222 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: Sun and specifically to explore coronal mass ejections, which is 223 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: one of your favorite doomsday scenario. Yeah, exactly. So thank you, 224 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: Thank you everyone involved in the project for studying those 225 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: because I do feel like that's gonna be one thing 226 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: that causes a massive issue at some point on this 227 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: planet in the next hundred years. Now. We did a 228 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: video on this a while back, but could you remind 229 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: everybody what CME is or maybe just what it does. Oh? Sure. 230 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: It's a massive charged particles that get ejected from the 231 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: Sun and they just head outwards. And if they head 232 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: towards the Earth and they happen to run into Earth, 233 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: they can do a lot of things. The one of 234 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: the biggest things is that they affect. They have an 235 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: effect that's kind of like what you hear is in 236 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: what is it um E m P electromagnetic pulse kind 237 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: of thing where it will fry circuits essentially um and 238 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: just destroy anything that's electronic and a call back to 239 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: our pal Josh Clark's End of the World show. Isn't 240 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: that a potential existential risk? Yes? Yeah, yeah, And it's 241 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: out there looming. Whenever you see sun spots like that 242 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: are aimed at the Earth, I always think, like, see, 243 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: I don't even need to get shot into the Sun 244 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: with a spaceship to get fried by its mighty rays. 245 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: Here in the United States, the Sun shoots you exactly. 246 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: That's good. That was my Russian, uh, the United States 247 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: a little more Brooklyn than Russia. I don't know what 248 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: it was, Siberia, Brooklyn, Siberia by way of Brooklynlyn. So 249 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: this this is important stuff, right And I think did 250 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: we mention that simes have occurred like in Canada in 251 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's there's have been some 252 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: recorded instances of a CME, and probably over the span 253 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: of humanity there have been CMEs that have occurred that 254 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: we just didn't understand what they were at the time, 255 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: and they had some weird effects. Didn't have so many 256 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: transistors and you know CPUs back in the day, that 257 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: would be affected fully. But elect but electrical systems like 258 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: long wires that carry electricity, they can be affected as well. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 259 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: The thing that makes the far side of the Moon 260 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: so attractive is the same thing that makes it so 261 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: difficult to UM to get to her to communicate with 262 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: It's tough you have to use that relay satellite, but 263 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: the scientific payoff is huge. According to Tong Jilieu, deputy 264 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: director of the Lunar Exploration Space Program Center for the 265 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: China National Space Administration against ISNA, UH, the far side 266 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: of the Moon is shielded from electromagnetic interference from Earth, 267 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: making it an ideal place to research the space environment 268 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: and solar bursts, and the probe can listen to the 269 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: deeper reaches of the cosmos. They're burying the lead a 270 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: little bit here because for any fans of extraterrestrials UFO 271 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: exploration in the audience, that is a clear indication that 272 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: they may may be capable of sensing some signal that 273 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: would not ordinarily, uh be within our means to differentiate 274 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: from the background noise. Yeah, dude, Oh that's really cool, 275 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: and it will be of course gray aliens from Andromeda 276 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: most likely, of course, of course um and or reptilians 277 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: from a different galaxies also Andromeda. Okay, okay, right, I seriously, 278 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: I really hope I feel like the reptilians from some 279 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: galaxy called like, you know, some weird name and then 280 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: a number, you know, like Corcus nine. Oh my gosh. Yeah, 281 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: but yes, they're from the Draco constellation, right, got it, 282 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: got it? Obviously right. So, as we could assume from 283 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: the name, the chungy For represents one of several steps 284 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: in China's lunar exploration program, or clapp. It's a series 285 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: of robotic by which we mean manned missions to the 286 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 1: lunar surface. And the name, as we had mentioned before, 287 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: pays homage to a Chinese goddess of the moon. The 288 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: program spans multiple years. It's meant to be conducted in 289 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: three phases of incremental technological advancement. You know. CHANGI four 290 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: is one in an iteration that doesn't end with four, 291 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: and it's kind of like uh hines fifty seven, except 292 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: there really are fifty six other varieties, right, And the 293 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: first thing they did was just to reach lunar orbit. 294 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: They said, let's just get something to orbit the Moon 295 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: without completely screwing it up. Yeah, And they did the 296 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: twelve years ago almost two seven mm hm with the 297 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: Change one, and its job was pretty simple. It was 298 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: a success. It was such a success that it overstayed 299 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: it's welcome. It's stayed in orbit until March of two 300 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: thousand nine. And then they launched the chong E two, 301 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: which is a pretty interesting, pretty interesting thing because it 302 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: didn't just do a typical lunar orbit, did it. Yeah. 303 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: So the chong E two was an updated version of 304 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: its predecessor with a lot of tech improvements things like 305 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: better onboard cameras and UM. The satellite UH is currently 306 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: in deep space as we speak and expected to return 307 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: to Earth sometime in or around nine, which is a 308 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: very futuristic sounding date. When you say it out loud, 309 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: it is yeah, but used to own equally astonishing. Well, 310 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, hindsight is there we go nine, So this 311 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: is neat because it's traveling. The experiment here is to 312 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: send this thing on a very far orbit and then 313 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: have it return right and if we can, if our 314 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: species can establish this proof of concept, then we will 315 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: also be able to potentially in the future send people 316 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: further out if that fat ever comes back in style. 317 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: The second phases to land and rove around on the Moon, 318 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: as Change three did in Changy four did in January 319 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. UH in the Change three became the first 320 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: object to land on the Moon since the Soviet Union's 321 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: Lunar twenty four in nineteen seventy six. Officially, this UM 322 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: objective of this was to achieve China's first soft landing 323 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: and rover exploration on the Moon, as well as again 324 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: demonstrate developed technology for future missions. It did a lot 325 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: of lunar surveying. It measured the lunar crust to a 326 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: depth of several hundred meters. It also discovered a new 327 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: type of rocks. So go you number three. That's sweet. 328 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: I have a quick question for you guys. Yeah, um, 329 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: you see talked about the idea of sending human Stauter 330 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: spaces being like a fat and I think that's funny 331 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: and also true because we think of that being the 332 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: only way to do space or exploration. But obviously the 333 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: technology is such that we don't have to risk the 334 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: human lives to do the work and get the data. 335 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: Is can you think of a reason why it would 336 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: become back in style or you know, like important for 337 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: the mission to send humans rather than rovers and um, 338 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, other remote controlled things to construct the lunar 339 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: colony and then eventually have all of the colonists there, 340 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: unless we were doing a full AI colony, which could 341 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: be interested, so it would be more like construction stuff. 342 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean, like you, there's really no reason to have 343 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: humans out there digging for samples when you can have 344 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: like a robot do it just as effectively, if not 345 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: more so. Right right, One of the big pieces here 346 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: would also be having it would also be the advantage 347 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: of having a person on the ground to repair machinery, 348 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: which machines can't quite do yet. But ultimately, the whole 349 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: goal with sending people up there and exploratory um occupations 350 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: is to build, as you said, Matt, a lasting non 351 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: earth presence for humanity to start to seed the Solar 352 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: System and then later maybe eventually the galaxy, unless that 353 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: already happened before and we are an unknowing results or 354 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: consequence of that earlier action has been happening since nineteen 355 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: brother cool bro You ever tried d MT several times? 356 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: Big fans of the Joe Rogan Show. So so that 357 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: that leads us to the Changi four. That's where we're 358 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 1: at now. But where are we going? We'll tell you 359 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: after a word from our sponsor. In my eyes like 360 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: d and then there's crash into me. I think that's 361 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: a creepy on, that's a that's a world yes, and 362 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: that's sorry. What we what we get? The song was 363 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: an example of a hard landing rather than a soft landing. 364 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: Get it works both ways, Hot Takes, Hot Takes Matt 365 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: Frederick the new podcast from How Stuff Works. It's also 366 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: a song that's kind of a stalker, right, is it 367 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: Hot Takes with Nett Frederick, but we're still on the 368 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: show with you. Yeah, I mean that's cool. Hot takes 369 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: and cool shakes. Hot takes, cool shakes where we eat 370 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: a different milkshake every day and then just say caddy 371 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: things about current events. Yeah, that's right. How about this 372 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: Hot Takes, Cool Shakes, rare Steaks. All of those together, 373 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: that's a man's that's a man's podcast. Cool babes. All right, 374 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm on that sent to you by Jewel for producer 375 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: Paul Deck and just suggested, Uh, what was it again, 376 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: Paul Paul said, Hot Takes and cool Vapes. Yeah, they're 377 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: like lakes, you know, like that will blow clouds while 378 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: we eye quake with anticipation to to see what's next. 379 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: In the slant rhyme here speaking segue would be hot Takes, 380 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: Cool Vapes, rare Steaks Deep Space and the third step 381 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: in this plan is to collect lunar samples from the 382 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: near side of the Moon and send them back to 383 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: Earth in it just going in. Uh, this is a 384 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: task for chang E five and the Change six missions, 385 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: and they get more and more advanced eventually, so the 386 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: big game changers are going to be Chong E seven 387 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: and eight, because Chang E eight will hopefully include a 388 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: three D printing mechanism to begin fabricating structures. Uh. The 389 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: people eventually live in on the Moon, and it, like 390 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: its predecessor, will carry a small sealed ecosystem with it 391 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: to see how things grow over the long term. This 392 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: is meant to bring people. Initially it will be scientists, 393 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: but eventually it will just be a breeding population to 394 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: bring human beings to the Moon and build a permanent 395 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: outpost somewhere near the lunar South Pole. Overall, this seems 396 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: to be a well planned out, ambitious yet reasoned push 397 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: to expand human knowledge. Chinese came very late to the 398 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: space race. Their first satellite was launched in nineteen seventy, 399 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: well after human beings officially landed on the Moon, but 400 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: China has invested billions of dollars in the space race 401 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: ever since. And it shows go humanity, right, Yeah, go humanity. 402 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: Let's all get to the moon first and build a 403 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: base first. Right. Some critics believe there's more to the story, 404 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: and here's where it gets easy. Yeah, the CLIP program 405 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: is raised alarms and other space programs NASA, Jackson so on, 406 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: as well as countries across the planet. And with good reason. 407 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: This isn't just paranoid Cold war thinking. It goes back 408 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: to what we would call the militarization of space, which 409 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: is against the closest thing we have to global law, right, 410 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: And the problem is that a lot of the things 411 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: you could develop for peaceful exploration are also things you 412 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: could use for non peaceful purposes. It's called dual use technology. 413 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: So when you guys remember back when, uh back when 414 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: there was that uh cover story about the existence of 415 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: weapons of mass destruction to justify adventurism in the Middle East, 416 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: what that happened, Well, one of the big concerns there 417 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: was the idea of dual use technology. The same enrichment 418 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: process you use to build um a relatively safe nuclear 419 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: power plant, is the same enrichment process you use to 420 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: build weapons. But the only thing that really changes is 421 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: the number of iterations, right that the number of times 422 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: you go through that process, And in a way, space 423 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: technology is similar. Although laws prevent the militarization of space, 424 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: these are pretty tough to enforce, right, I mean, what 425 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: are you gonna wait, what are you gonna You're gonna 426 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: send the cops, the Space Cops. We don't even have 427 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: Space Force yet, not yet. Did you hear about the 428 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: Steve Carrell show Space Force. It's gonna it can be 429 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: like The Office, but in space, I hear tell. And 430 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying not to get too excited. Abot, Why isn't 431 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: that just The Orville? I think The Orville is much 432 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: more of a star. I've heard it, so I haven't 433 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: seen it. I've seen it's good, So let's just be 434 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: the Office in space. And that's what I thought. That 435 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: was the one line pitch. That's obviously the lowest hanging 436 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: fruit type show for Steve Carrell to do. But I 437 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm em intrigued. I'll check it out. I'll 438 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: check it out. Let us know if you think it's 439 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: gonna be a bomb, or if you think it's it's 440 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a new age in space based company. I 441 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: thinking of TV shows. Yes, True Detective season three, Oh yeah, 442 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: are you caught up? Dude? It's really good. It's really 443 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: really good. Because I did not like the second season. 444 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: It lost me and I wanted to like it. I 445 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 1: was really trepidacious about season three. But I think it's fantastic. 446 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: People would have liked the second season if it was 447 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: not build as true Detective season two, if it had 448 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: just been like, look at Vince Vaughan again, looking as 449 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: though he needs to sleep, which is how Vince Vaughan 450 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: often looks. He's a hard working guy. He's a hard 451 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: working dude. So one way nations have historically tried to 452 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: ease these tensions, you know, try to relax and chill 453 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: out a bit, is through scientific collaboration, international assistance with research, 454 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: funding and manufacturing. We see this happen in Antarctica in 455 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: the South Pole. Here researchers stay at the compounds of 456 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: other nations all the time, right, That's why we we 457 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: did that episode. Didn't know what happens if someone commits 458 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: a murder into Antarctica. Yeah, it gets complicated. We did that, 459 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: dulous history, We did that, Okay, so it is worth 460 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: checking out. The answer is not simple. The problem here 461 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: is that we can't have the scientific collaboration that eases 462 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: concerns about dual use technology because there's a U S 463 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: Law from Tleven that bans any official contact with Chinese 464 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: space officials. This exacerbates the already thick tensions and Yasma 465 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: of mistrust. Wow, and that is why in recent history, 466 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: UM Vice President Michael Pence he went to the Pentagon. 467 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: This was in January as well, and he accused China 468 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: and Russia of developing technologies and weapons to target U 469 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: S satellites and working to bring new weapons of war 470 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: into space itself. Yeah, because nobody acts aggressively on the 471 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: our own right, We're always acting in defense of something. 472 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: Why would you guys take weapons of mass destruction into 473 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: space while we're doing it too. I'm just kidding. We 474 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: have no proof that we're doing that, but it leads 475 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: to ulterior motives. Well, I mean, what is the X 476 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,479 Speaker 1: thirty seven being doing up there? Right? That is the 477 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: unmanned spacecraft that has orbited for more than a hundred 478 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: and eighty days before. No one officially knows what it's doing. 479 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: So what if there are ulterior motives to the newest, 480 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: the newest fouries into space by China, what are they, 481 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: to quote Tom Waits building up there? This builds on 482 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: the concern about the militarization of space and the next 483 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: question becomes more specific, what what are they making? One 484 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: guess would be a potentially massive resource mining business. Because 485 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: China could potentially make an enormous windfall by transporting fusion 486 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: ready helium three. This is something that was new to me. 487 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: Were you guys aware of this? I believe we talked 488 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: about it on a Moon episode a while ago, or 489 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: with the Mars episode, maybe with Marshall Brain. I can't remember, 490 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: or maybe I've just learned about this. God, I don't know. 491 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: I thought I talked with you about this. Man um 492 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: Helium three a massive source for future fuel, like what 493 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: we're going to probably be using in the Moon, has 494 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: a whole heck of a lot of it. Yeah, Helium 495 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: three is a is a very um tasty nuclear fuel 496 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: because there are no neutrons generated as a product of 497 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: the reaction, and the protons that do get generated have charge, 498 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: and they can be safely contained using electromagnetic fields. So yeah, 499 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: I think you I think you are right. We did. 500 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: We did talk a little bit about this, maybe with 501 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: the good Mr. Brain people. Once imagine that Saturn or 502 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: Jupiter would be the right place to get your hands 503 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: on some on some helium three. But now it looks 504 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: like China has their site set on the Moon, and 505 00:31:54,680 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: we have a quote about how much stuff might be 506 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: up there. This comes from extreme tech, and it says 507 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: although the Sun dispenses ample amounts of helium three wherever 508 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: it blows, the Earth is largely shielded from this windfall 509 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: by its own magnetic field UM, and the little we 510 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: do have is mostly generated by various terrestrial processes like 511 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: cosmic ray bombardment and even relic sources from leftover nuclear 512 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: warheads UM. The Moon, on the other hand, is a 513 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: far more concentrated depot, with up to five million tons 514 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: conveniently embedded in its top surface layer. So it's not 515 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: even that difficult to mind it. No, it's not. It's 516 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: not buried deep in the lunar surface. But guys are 517 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: changing the moon if you take that stuff off. You 518 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, escape, If you mind enough of 519 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: this helium three, what are you going to do to 520 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: the not only the composition of the Moon, but also, oh, 521 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: I don't know the mass of the moon. If we 522 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: mind it the way we you know, we take down 523 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: trees in the Amazon, like, good lord, we're gonna have 524 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: a hollow moon. You know, I get the feeling that 525 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: you're thirty joking, Yes, raising a legit concern, right, It's 526 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: true it's that that's one ulterior motive, and it's potentially, 527 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: uh potentially could be an ecological disaster or an astronomical disaster, 528 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: perhaps because you know, I wonder would they ever actually 529 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: mind so much of a resource off the moon? Would 530 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: humanity ever mind so much of a thing off the 531 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: Moon that it does affect its mass and its orbit. 532 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that it would happen any time in 533 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: the near future, and by that I mean hundreds and 534 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: hundreds of years. But still we would be mining it 535 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: for a while. We why would we stop mining it 536 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: unless we could at least prove that, oh, it's gonna 537 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: crash into the Earth now, or you know, we're gonna 538 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: change the tide's X amount because of this. And I 539 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: can't even imagine helium having enough of an effect on 540 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: any of that stuff, just with the amount of massac 541 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: it has in volume on that But what if that's 542 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: a um what if that's a cover story as well? 543 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: What if the mining is cover story? What if they're 544 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: looking for something else. According to one of the United 545 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: Kingdom's favorite UH tabloids, The Sun, last year, a guy 546 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: named Coral Wolf, the technician at the Air Force Tactical 547 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: Air Command Headquarters in Langley, Virginia claimed to have discovered 548 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: artificial structures on the far side of the Moon. Go 549 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: On and they found strange shapes and images taken by 550 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, a probe that circled the Moon 551 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: since back in oh nine, and according to Wolf, these 552 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 1: were structures that were definitely not created by natural means 553 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: such as meteors or ancient collisions with other heavenly bodies. 554 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 1: He believes that the structures were quote created by intelligent beings. 555 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: Most noticeable was what looked like radar antennas, very similar 556 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: to what you could see on Earth. Hold on, Yeah, 557 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: what is going on here? This is a gentleman that 558 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: appears to have some credentials from the Air Force Tactical 559 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: Air Command Headquarters that is saying these things. No, why, no? 560 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: What does that mean? We've been here before, someone has 561 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: been here before and set up all of like maybe 562 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: a base is already there. What what is happening to 563 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: you guys? I you know what, I'm gonna let let 564 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: that summer because I have an update for that, but 565 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: I was I wanted to save it for the end 566 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,479 Speaker 1: of the show. Is that, Okay, do be a weird 567 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: update when everybody need to know going in, it's going 568 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: to be a weird one. But for now, let's just 569 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: remember that Carl Wolf, technician Air Force Tactical Air Command 570 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: totally believe there are structures of some sort that did 571 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: not occur naturally that is on the far side of 572 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: the Moon, and they have evidence from pictures. Yes, and 573 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: has in his opinion, visual evidence. Oh guys, let's take 574 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: a quick pause and then have a word from our 575 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: sponsor and we're back with more for you about returning 576 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: to the Moon. There are other people who argue that, uh, 577 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: that maybe we're opening a door we shouldn't open. There 578 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: are some conspiracy theorists who say that the probe could 579 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 1: put us all immortal danger, arguing that alien races living 580 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: on the Moon, just to go with us here for 581 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: a second, could see the landing as an act of 582 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: war against their species, potentially with devastating consequences. Other people 583 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: believe that the dark side of the Moon is peppered 584 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: by creators left by secret NASA military bombings. Okay, bombing, Wait, 585 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: you mean like from when we tried to blow up 586 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: the moon or when we tried to blow up the 587 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: alien races. But there's that whole story where we were 588 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: trying to intimidate other countries by shooting missiles of the 589 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: Moon that would make a big cloud they could see 590 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: to demonstrate our superiority. Didn't Is this that I make 591 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: this up? This issue, that's the thing that really happened. 592 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: It never got past the planning stages. But that's what's 593 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: that's what Mr. Show is referencing. And they're famous blow 594 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: up the Moon sketch. So you're saying there are craters 595 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: that possibly were left by some version of what we're 596 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: talking about that did happen. People. There are people who 597 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: believe it interesting. I I myself, it's I I am 598 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: of the opinion that it seems like a lot of 599 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: trouble to go to, right, especially given the propaganda value. 600 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: You would want to detonate something like that on the 601 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: Earth facing side. Yeah, but if you were an alien 602 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: community or in an extraterrestrial community living, existing on that 603 00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,479 Speaker 1: dark side of the moon would be pretty advantageous. Oh yeah, 604 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: it'd be dope. You're not going to be found, you're 605 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: not getting you know, you can actually make your own 606 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: radio programs and not get interrupted by all the noise. 607 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 1: This this theory first arose in two thousand nine after 608 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: NASA deliberately fired a rocket and satellite into the lunar surface. 609 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: They said it was an attempt to kick up moon 610 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: dust so they could analyze this debris from Earth and 611 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: determine if the Moon held any water. So that's that's there, 612 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: that's their story, all right, Matt, Matt, are you over 613 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 1: the lies of Big NASA? No, it's just not as 614 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: much fun, that's all it is. We're gonna look at 615 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: a cloud studio's content. But it's important if you want 616 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: to build a colony on the Moon. This is the 617 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: more long term question. And it reminds reminds me at 618 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: least of that Marshall Brain episode where he walked us 619 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: through his thought experiment on how to set up a 620 00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: Martian society. He um, he had some He has pretty 621 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: articulated social theories, right, And one thing that's almost inescapable, 622 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: whether you're talking the Moon or Mars, is that after 623 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 1: some amount of time, any actual self sustaining non Earth 624 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: colony will eventually inevitably become an independent entity, kind of 625 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: like the colonies in North and South America when it 626 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: used to be called the New World. The cost of 627 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: transportation and governance eventually became too high for the European powers, 628 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: and the terrestrial overlords of the future will also have 629 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: a tough time maintaining control. And unless they bake in 630 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,959 Speaker 1: some specific, unchangeable dependencies, they probably won't rule the Moon 631 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: for long. Maybe they would have to do something like 632 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: be the gatekeepers of food supply, right, or be able 633 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: to turn off the air or something. Yeah, but then 634 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 1: that all changes as soon as the colony of self 635 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: sustaining and you're growing plants and some kind of biosphere thing, 636 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, quickly the colony becomes in control 637 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: of itself. Yeah, if the colony doesn't collapse under its 638 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: own um, the weight of its own social functioning, right, 639 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: I mean, look, we've all seen Biodome. It is a 640 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: harrowing exploration of the human psyche. Almost the documentary. Almost 641 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: the documentary. I believe the future will prove it to 642 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 1: be so, right, I squeeze the juice, squeeze the juice, 643 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: dogs or whatever. He's still out there. He's weezing the 644 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: juice to this day. So there's just from Encino man too. 645 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: But I know I don't both of those, didn't he 646 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: just have the set catchphrases that he said in every film. 647 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 1: No that, I don't think so. I think we's in 648 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: the juice was pretty specifically an Encino man. They they 649 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: go to the convenience store and they terrorized that poor 650 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: clerk by wheezing the jewice, which basically theft because they're 651 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,280 Speaker 1: just stealing slurpy juice and it's very unsand it he's 652 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: just putting his mouth right on the slurpe apple. But 653 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: they probably faked a lot of that right that Hashier 654 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 1: was a paid actor. They didn't actually break into a thing. 655 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: What you're saying, a man wasn't a documentary, and it's not. 656 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: It's a it's speculative nonfiction, if that feels better. This 657 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: leads us to one of the last questions about the 658 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: Lunar Landing, the Chinese Lunar Landing project, which is, of 659 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: course we all saw this coming. Did they fake it? 660 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: The rumors about a hoax were started by a guy 661 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 1: named Scott C. Waring of UFO Sightings Daily, and he said, 662 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: I guess China may have decided. Since NASA fake the 663 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 1: first Apollo Moon landing and got away with it, then 664 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 1: China want it in on it too, and he supports 665 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 1: his evidence by doing the same thing that Carl Wolf did, 666 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 1: which is say, look at the original photo. You'll see 667 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: there are no other lines in the entire giant panoramic photo. OMG, 668 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,919 Speaker 1: this is so very disappointing. Note the lack of moon 669 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: rocks on the entire surface of the Moon, which is 670 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 1: exactly what the first Apollo moon landing also showed a 671 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: sign of being faked on a stage. What I know 672 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: for him this is like a smoking smoking gun. And 673 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: as we mentioned before, a lot of people, a surprising 674 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,720 Speaker 1: amount of people got behind this because you know, twenty 675 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: one million people in the US alone still believe the 676 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: moon landings were faked for one reason or another. And 677 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: if you were one of those twenty one million people, 678 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: we'd love to hear your story. You can write to 679 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: us directly. You can find us on the Instagram's, the 680 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: twitters and the facebooks. But where does this leave us? All? 681 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 1: Now here we are now it's the beginning twenty nineteen. 682 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,800 Speaker 1: Is we record this, Things are about to go. Nuts 683 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: and bananas on our nearest rocky relative out there in orbit, 684 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: Nuts and bananas on the moon. Nuts and bananas on 685 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: the Moon. Yeah, we've never thought about pairing those with 686 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: the chief unless it was like a fine bree maybe 687 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: moon cheese. Yeah, isn't the moon made out of cheese? Well, 688 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: moon cheese is a very specific snack available at your 689 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: local Starbucks and health food stores. I think yeah, and 690 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 1: the moon is probably made out of cheese with very 691 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: high helium three content. So I don't know, I don't 692 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: know what what what side of the argument that puts 693 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: you on map that I just want you to be 694 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: aware of that. Okay, thank you, absolutely no, but you're right. Yes, 695 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 1: it's going it's gonna get very busy up on the moon. 696 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: And it's cool to think that in the next twenty years, 697 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: like the timelines that UM are mapped out for the 698 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: Changy I guess the program and then as well as 699 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: the United States trying to get up there. It's around 700 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: twenty thirty something, I think when all this stuff will 701 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: be completed. If you look at the US and China, 702 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: that's not that far away and we could possibly see 703 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: lunar colonies. That is still mind blowing to me. But 704 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: all kidding is side UM. Beijing is careful distress that 705 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: everything it's doing on the Moon at this point, and 706 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: everything that's planning, it's all peaceful motives. They're doing with 707 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,240 Speaker 1: peaceful motives. Um in exploring space, however, I mean, we 708 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 1: we have to just we have to remember that the 709 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: United States use China and Russia as a potential threat 710 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 1: to national security. And that's why our current president, Donald Trump, 711 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: he called for the establishment of a space force, by 712 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: a space force. No, that sounds familiar. I'm excited about it, 713 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: all right. Yeah. The problem is that most of this stuff, again, 714 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: you can say that you're developing it for peaceful means 715 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: all the livelong day. It doesn't it doesn't take away 716 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 1: the fact that one really could turn it into turn 717 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: some of these technologies into weapons of war. The U 718 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: S and other would be space very nations obviously don't 719 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: want to be left out or caught defenseless. That is 720 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: why on December eleven, anniversary of the Apollo seventeth lunar 721 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: landing ak the last time people walked on the Moon, 722 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 1: President Trump signed the Space Policy Directive One. It directs 723 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 1: NASA to take astronauts to the Moon with the help 724 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: of the US commercial space industry. So SpaceX lan Musk 725 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure is up in there, yet there is very 726 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 1: little detail on exactly how and when this might happen 727 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: and how much the White House will spend, and in 728 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 1: the meantime, the clock is ticking. Would you like to 729 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: hear that last somewhat unpleasant update, Yes, I do, But 730 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: I do want to add this one information that I 731 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,919 Speaker 1: got from NASA DOKV. They've got a graphic that has 732 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: the exploration campaign written out up until and it kind 733 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: of gives you a timeline. But none of this stuff 734 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: is solid, and it's all basically what we hope to achieve, 735 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 1: and you can find it on there when you have 736 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 1: to aim for the stars quite literally in this in 737 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: this instance, here is the here's the weird update. That 738 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 1: guy Carl Wolfe who said that he had seen pictures 739 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 1: of a secret alien based on the Dark Side of 740 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: the Moon during his time as a sergeant at Langley 741 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: okay uh in, I want to say October of eighteen 742 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: or somewhere thereabouts. He was killed, you struck by a 743 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: tractor trailer riding his bicycle on October t actually, and 744 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 1: police were investigating the incident, but there were no charges filed. 745 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: The sheriff refrain from releasing the driver's name. This This 746 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: is someone who had contacted Dr Stephen Greer as well 747 00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: Buddy Steve Graher. He was Carl Woolf was in and 748 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 1: of this world. But at this time authorities do not 749 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 1: suspect foul play. But he he did unfortunately pass away. 750 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,919 Speaker 1: So for some people, that's going to indicate that he 751 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,439 Speaker 1: was a whistle blower. From other people is just going 752 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:20,359 Speaker 1: to indicate how dangerous traffic is. The choices up to you. Wow, well, 753 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 1: now I'm going to go and find myself researching that 754 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:29,240 Speaker 1: for the next at least nine hours. Yes, sorry, Matty, 755 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: I should have opened with that. But we want to 756 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: hear from you. Do you think the space race is 757 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: a noble thing? Do you think the country's involved are 758 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: being transparent in their motives? Is the government of China 759 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 1: setting up a massive mining operation or something more sinister? 760 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: Or is this innocuous and everybody's just being alarmist. We 761 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,240 Speaker 1: want to hear from you. Find us on Instagram, Facebook 762 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: and Twitter. You can see our community page. Here's where 763 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 1: it gets crazy, where you will meet our favorite part 764 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: of the show, your fellow listeners. If you want to 765 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 1: get up me and Ben's personal business, you can check 766 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: me out at Embryonic Insider on Instagram, and I am 767 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 1: at Ben Bowling on Instagram in a burst of creativity. 768 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: And you will never find me on Instagram. I can't 769 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,879 Speaker 1: even find you. I have an account, but you'll never 770 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 1: find it. That's very on brand for Matt Frederick, though 771 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 1: I appreciate that about you. I'm only kidding. It's like 772 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 1: my name hs W or something. You can find it, 773 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 1: but you know, don't follow me or whatever you do 774 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: on Instagram. Follow yourself, okay, follow your arts and your 775 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 1: nose to the delicious taste of fruit loops. You can 776 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: also call us if you want to leave us a message. 777 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 1: It might just make it on the air. We are 778 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 1: one eight three three s C D W y t K. Yeah. 779 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,359 Speaker 1: How can we start doing this unison thing? I kind 780 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 1: of missed the boat early on and I should Is 781 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 1: that a thing now? Is all? It's a good thing. 782 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm on board, guys. Somebody is listening, and they're they're 783 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: saying that a long way, you know what I mean. Oh, 784 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 1: if thank you, Carl. If none of that quite launches 785 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 1: your rocket or finds your extra terrestrials or builds your 786 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: moon colony, and guess where I'm going with us, have 787 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 1: no worries, friends and neighbors. You can email us your 788 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: stories and feedback directly. We are conspiracy at how stuff 789 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 1: works dot com.