1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody to are you a Charlotte? We have 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Craig Vierco. 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Part two is so great as Ray King, as I'm 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: sure you'll all remember. So when you you were doing 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: the Music Man, you were at the tail end, so 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: you were you simultaneously filming with us and still performing. 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: I think so I may have. I may have taken 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: the week off, but I don't. I didn't like to 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 3: take too much time off because I always feel like it's, 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: oh yeah. 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 2: I feel horrible different. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, You're just like I'm on stay showing the show. 15 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: I'm stay, you know, just yeah whatever, that's incredible. 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 3: But I think I did take a week and then 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 3: I think I don't know if if they bought me 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: back or it was originally for two episodes, I don't remember. 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: There was some kind of an extension situation. I feel like, yeah, 20 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: because I think you were just so great and Sarah 21 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: loved you so much, and I think everyone was so 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: happy and it was just such a you really were 23 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: a breath of fresh air at that point, you know, 24 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: in terms of the storyline. 25 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: But also your presence. And I do remember there. 26 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the episode in a minute, but 27 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: I do remember something, and I feel like this was 28 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: something that you were doing in life, like it was 29 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: kind of like a precursor to social media in a way, 30 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: like you had a blog or a vlog or a something. 31 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: Do you remember this was it? 32 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: Well, I had a very crazy first episode of a 33 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: talk show. 34 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: Maybe that's what it was. 35 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 1: You had something that we were like, Wow, he's so multifaceted. 36 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 3: It might have been Was it bathing with Bierco? Yes, yeah, 37 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: I'm so proud of that I did. I had this 38 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: crazy idea of I love talk shows, but I also 39 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: sometimes they really get lost with talk shows. And I 40 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: remember I was joking around with a friend of mine 41 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: and we were I think we were talking about Burt 42 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: Reynolds used to have a talk show like in the eighties. 43 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: Wow, he was trying. 44 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was that sort of like he'd 45 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: done that Stroker Race, post Stroker Race, the Lonnie What 46 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: am I doing? 47 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 2: Like, Okay, okay. 48 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 3: I'm an aging guy. Sometimes I I don't know, I'm 49 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: he was throwing all kinds of messages out to everybody. 50 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 3: Wow about what he was and what he what his 51 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: predilections were. Not that any of that matters, but it 52 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: was a confusing Burt Reynolds period. 53 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, And I remember he. 54 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: Had a talk show called Burt Reynolds Talking. 55 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: With Something Okay, and it was and it. 56 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: Was I remember watching it and going, oh my god, 57 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: and no offense. But this was the feeling. I was like, 58 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: every time I watched the show, I feel like, whenever 59 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: it's over, I feel like I'm just getting off of 60 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 3: a great gay cruise. It was so it was so 61 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: like they shot him like they shot Barbara Walters and 62 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: her specials or Dina, just this fuzz and he always 63 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: had like a pastel sweater and flowers and that always 64 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: made me laugh. And it was always like the same guests, 65 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: Tom Delays, Jim Nighbors, and I was like a talk 66 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 3: show or am I at you know what? Plato's retreat. 67 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: It wasn't that bad, but it wasn't that I'm not 68 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: that far off. It was. It was strange and it 69 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: lasted like two episodes or something. This isn't right, this 70 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: isn't right, this isn't right. But I remember that, and 71 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: I remember joking around with a friend and thinking the 72 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: only thing that would have been set me more ill 73 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: at ease, I think was if if he was bathing 74 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: his guests. 75 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god, where are we going? 76 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: We actually started talking about like wouldn't that be funny? 77 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: And maybe we were to shoot that. There was no 78 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: This was pre internet, so I was like, where would I? 79 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: I don't know, I would think I was just riffing. 80 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: And the original idea was to sit on the side 81 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: of a tub, like in a calf tan and just 82 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: sort of like brush the person and asked the questions 83 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: like you're asking me and I'm just and never reference it. 84 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: And then I I had lunch with a friend of mine, 85 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 3: this guy, Rob Cohen, comedy writer, came off The Simpsons, 86 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 3: very funny guy, and I told him about the show. 87 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 3: He said, just do it, just do it, and so 88 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: he found some camera people for me. And I told 89 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: my agent at the time, and she said, you think 90 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: Malcolvich would do it? And I said, are you asking 91 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: me why? I said, she goes, let me ask him 92 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 3: and I said, my god, right, and so he said yes, 93 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: and I had to go to the I had to 94 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 3: coote is this too much? No? 95 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: I love it? I love it? What on Earth? 96 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: I went to the Beverly Hills Hotel where he was. 97 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 3: He had a bungalow and I met with him and 98 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 3: I'm sitting there and I explained the show to him. 99 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: We'll be sitting in a tub that's too small for 100 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: me and I'm going to be bathing you and I'm 101 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: just gonna ask you. And at that point I wanted 102 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: to just be straight, like, just you know, a ridiculous situation. 103 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: I'm just going to ask you about Steppenwolf and you know, 104 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: your fashion line and all that. And he said okay. 105 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 3: I said, I want to tell you what it is again, 106 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: just because I think I should have told you twice, 107 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: but maybe you didn't hear it. So I told him again. 108 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, that's okay, wow, and he showed up. 109 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 3: It was shot a good friend of mine. May she 110 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: rest in peace. The other carry in my life. 111 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's okay. 112 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get okay. 113 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: Fisher, who was also on our show, Oh yeah, yeah, 114 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: did you get at all? 115 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: Not? 116 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: No, No. 117 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: We tried to leave her alone because I remember it 118 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: was the LA episodes and everybody was so excited, but 119 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: we didn't want to like overwhelm the situation. 120 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 2: You know, she was unoverwhelmed, credible. We should we should 121 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: have She lived in overwhelmed. 122 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 3: That was that, that was that's her comfort. 123 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 2: Zone, right right right? 124 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: Wow? 125 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: Wait, she was involved also, see, well. 126 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: That's her tub because I was staying in her. I've 127 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,559 Speaker 3: been living on and off for a couple of years. 128 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: Wow. 129 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: And so uh I remember looking at that tub and 130 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: it was hilarious because it was a bathroom, but it 131 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 3: had room for three cameras and there was a piano 132 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: in it because Carrie Fisher was a piano and so 133 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: even if we wanted to have a band, whatever we 134 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: wanted to do, but we had cameras. They're not big ones, 135 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: but we had cameras. And it was crazy. It was 136 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 3: almost like the room was crying out for it. I 137 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: think Edith Edith Head built the house and then Betty 138 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: Davis lived there. 139 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 140 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 3: Wow, So we we did it. I think if you 141 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: it's something you can show actors, because John Malcovich is 142 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: so brilliant because it's a ridiculous situation, and the whole 143 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 3: idea is, let's make something that's so awkward you almost 144 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 3: don't want to look at it. 145 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: Wow. 146 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: And yeah, it was just it was just it was 147 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: just seemed wrong, that's all. It was just wrong. And 148 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: and and all he did was he wanted a cup 149 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: of black co and some direction. And I said, I 150 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: think it's Charlie Rose and instead of a wooden table. 151 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: Just pretend this is the way these shows are done. 152 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: You've done a million of these, Wow, and probably don't 153 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: want to you know, whatever it is. Just treat it 154 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: like a talk show. You went, okay, And that's exactly 155 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: what we laughed once. But it was because I I 156 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: it suddenly occurred to me that I'm I'm spooning John Malkovich. 157 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 2: This is crazy. Oh my god, we have a picture 158 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: my producer, he's so good. 159 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: This is so crazy that we need a picture to 160 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: fully understand what is happening. 161 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: Wow, I have. 162 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: Other pictures that are hilarious because oh, I'll give you 163 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: a scoop. I'll give you a scoop. I can't believe 164 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 3: I'm on the I'm on a show to talk about 165 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: sex and the city. I'm talking about bathing with people. 166 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: This is I need to know about this. 167 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: We shot the thing, but I don't think we knew 168 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: what we had. It took us a couple of weeks 169 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: to edit it because we were we were like, is 170 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: this an hour long thing? Because we had an hour 171 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: of it? Wow, did we show the whole thing? Because 172 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: a lot of the conversation was just interesting. He was 173 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: talking about steppenwolfing. And the more we edited it, the 174 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 3: more we realized, oh, because we were trying to figure 175 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: out we know it's funny, but how do we sustain this. 176 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: It's a weird idea, but how do we make it 177 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 3: funny and comfort you know? And then we realized, oh, 178 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 3: the guest is the straight man and I'm the idiot, 179 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 3: and and we just came up with the questions start 180 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: out normal and they get ridiculous. At one point, I'm 181 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: just asking him to repeat words that sounds strange, you know, wow, whatever, 182 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: and and he played along brilliantly. And then so for 183 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: the and then we put it out and we didn't 184 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: know what to expect, and it it was one of 185 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: the early like viral videos. 186 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: I know, okay, this is exactly because I remember Sir 187 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: Jessica being like, you wouldn't believe what Craig Beerco. 188 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: Was doing. 189 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: We were like what, But yeah, it was. 190 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: After but that was after the music man, So that 191 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: would have come out at it. 192 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: Got it. No, I think you guys were still chatting 193 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: or whatever, right, yeah. 194 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think did we have our I 195 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: think we had our blackberries at that point. 196 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,359 Speaker 2: I think this was the Jays of the black BlackBerry. 197 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: I remember I would make fun of her all the 198 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 3: time because I could never figure one out. 199 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: No, she got me into it. We lived on those things. 200 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: We lived on time. 201 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: That feels like it feels like we're like in wagons 202 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: or something. Blackberries, It's true. 203 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: So wait, what happened with the bathtub show? 204 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 3: Oh? It was. It was a big deal. And uh 205 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: unfortunately I didn't see eyed eye with what Rob wanted 206 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: to do because we shot a second one. And that 207 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: was the thing is, for every one hundred letters we'd 208 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 3: send out, we'd get maybe one response because who wants you. 209 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: Know, Oh, I'd be scared to death. 210 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. So that's of course, that's why we was so 211 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 3: good to have one episode in the can that we 212 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: could show people anyway. Of all people, Richard Dreyfus saw 213 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 3: it and said, I want to do it. 214 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I want to do it. 215 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: And I almost drove off the road. I was like okay, great, 216 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 3: you know, and he knew Carry, he knew Carrie, so 217 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: this was all great. Wow, it all was falling into place. 218 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 3: And he wouldn't take his shirt off, he wouldn't get undressed, 219 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 3: so and so, you know, we we figured, well, we'll 220 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: shoot it. 221 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: If I can find it, I'll look while i'm here. 222 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 3: But there is an episopere's a there's a second episode, 223 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 3: which it's the first episode I'm very pleased with. It's 224 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: so surreal and you don't it just sort of clobbers 225 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 3: you over the head. And the second one was we thought, like, 226 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: what do you do once the joke is? I mean, 227 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: it's a very simple premise, right, I don't And I 228 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: didn't know if it was a show. I thought, maybe 229 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: it's a New Yorker cartoon, just one thing out. But 230 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: we had Richard do it, and it's funnier. It's really funny. 231 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 3: He was really funny. But he it looks like he's 232 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: sitting in the tub with his clothes on. He must 233 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: have been self conscious or something, right. But the most 234 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: surreal thing, and probably my favorite part of the whole 235 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 3: experience was his daughter and his wife had come up 236 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: and they were standing in the bathroom, going take the 237 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 3: shirt up, because I'm not going to take the shirt off. 238 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: That might take it off. Wow. And I'm sitting in 239 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: a tub going I thought being in a tub with 240 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: John Malkovich was weird. But I'm in the middle of 241 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 3: a family argument in a tub and I just loved 242 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: my life. But it wasn't right, and I just thought, 243 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: I'm glad he came. It was really nice to meet him. 244 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: It was funny. I mean, we had the mashed potatoes. 245 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: Crazy, super fascinating. 246 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: He was doing Oh god, it was I had him repeat. 247 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 3: I said the thing that line and Jaws. It made 248 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: me want to be an actor. This was no accident. 249 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 3: Can you do that? And he did it and I said, 250 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 3: but do it like you did it? Oh, And he 251 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 3: did it and I went, I don't know, I don't 252 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: know what you're doing. And I just he played along 253 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: with it. It was just a lot of awkward. It 254 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: was just whatever was awkward. 255 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: It sounds like a precursor to like so much of 256 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: what is online at this point. And also it makes 257 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: me think of the show that Zach galovan Akis did, 258 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: like the Fern Show. 259 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 2: Do you remember that? 260 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 3: I was similar to that? 261 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow, you were ahead of your time, Craig Well, I. 262 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 3: Just loved you know what. I love Will Ferrell and 263 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: Will Ferrell had sort of introduced this comedy of discomfort. 264 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: You know, him walking into a room with tiny underwear 265 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: arm he just doesn't notice it and he's just reaching 266 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 3: past you and stuff like that. But it's safe because 267 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: you know the underwear isn't going to come off, and 268 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 3: you know, and true it was brilliant, but I thought 269 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 3: what would be what's the next step? Wow? And I 270 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: think it was to this day people were like, you're 271 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 3: not naked in the tub, are you? And I'm like, 272 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: it's John Malkovich, what do you what do you think? 273 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: Which means nothing? And I just love that people were 274 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: like you were then to this day they're just like, 275 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: I love it, but that's weird, and I'm. 276 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, I mean it's super up. 277 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: I want for you to feel weird. 278 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 279 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 3: That was great. Wow, became this huge thing. It got away, 280 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 3: you know, like the New York Times and then people 281 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: writing saying they wanted to be on it. And I 282 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 3: met with Laurene Michael Oh yeah, and I'm like this 283 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: is crazy. Wow. And Lauren Michaels is saying I can't 284 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: tell Andy Sandberg at the time was in the cask. 285 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: He goes, I can't tell Andy Sandberg that he can't 286 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 3: have the last sketch in the show because some guy 287 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: in California. I said, yeah, I don't know why I'm here, 288 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: and I just said, this is this can't I don't 289 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: know where this would fit into your show. I love 290 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: your show. And I said, can I just use my 291 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: ten minutes to ask you questions? He said sure. 292 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: Wow, Oh that's a great story. 293 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved it. 294 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, super fascinating. You're very very interesting. I 295 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: knew this, but. 296 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: I'd love Yeah, I'd love to see. I'd love to see. 297 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: I knew there was something. 298 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: Where I was like, he did something really odd after 299 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: and I couldn't remember what it was. So thank you 300 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: so much. Let's talk about Samantha for a second. This 301 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: would be the beginning of Samantha trying to have a 302 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: relationship with a woman, which I don't even know. I know, like, well, 303 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what led to this decision to do this. 304 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to ask Michael Patrick when he comes back. 305 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: But and then I don't know how we got Sonia 306 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: Raga of all people like wow, wow, And it's interesting 307 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: because she's you know. They meet at the art gallery 308 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: and she wants to buy her work, and then she 309 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: really is she's gay because the ladies around her. 310 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: And then she goes to her. 311 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: Studio and they do art together, which is interesting, and 312 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: then there's kind of a vibe. But then Samantha doesn't say, 313 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: oh I am not into women. 314 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: She says I'm not a relationship person, right. 315 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: Which is interesting, and Sonya Brugel looks so crestfallen and 316 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: I for me, when I was watching it, I thought 317 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: there was so much kind of subtext about what lesbians want, right, 318 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: because Sonia Braga could have been like, well, I'm not 319 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: a relationship person either, exactly right, right, But the thought 320 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: was like, oh, no, relationships are like what this character was, right, 321 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: And I guess it is because then there's there's some. 322 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: That's ever been laid out or hinted to before that 323 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: she might have an interest. 324 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: In her, not that I'm aware of, I mean, except 325 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: that she just kind of was interested in whatever, right, 326 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: Like her thing is like I'm sexual and I'm free, 327 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So from that perspective, it 328 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. She says something like, you know, I've 329 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: done the women thing, but it's mostly. 330 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: Been with a man and a woman or whatever. 331 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: So it's it is very interesting, and I still I'm 332 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: basically watching this show as though I've never seen it. 333 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: At this point. 334 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: It is I don't remember any of this, this section 335 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: of our show. 336 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 337 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: If I was just really tired, I don't know, I 338 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: don't remember it, but it's super interesting to watch. 339 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know what's going to happen. 340 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: I know they're going to try, but it's also interesting 341 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: because Sonia Braga is just such an interesting actress and 342 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: so so different. 343 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: Beautiful, yeah, gorgeous. I used to just stand there. I 344 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: had to like with you guys. I was always just 345 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: putting my jaw back. 346 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: Oh. 347 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: I was sitting at the craft service table trying not 348 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: to drool. 349 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: That's so nice. I think we were just very excited 350 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: that a new man had shown up finally, finally for Carrie, 351 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: but also in general, you know what I mean, because 352 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: for a while we used to have like revolving, revolving, revolving, 353 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: and then we got into these kind of longer storylines, right, yeah, 354 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: which on the one hand, as an actor is wonderful, right, 355 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: like you're just digging in. But on the other hand, 356 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: there's something fun about having new people. 357 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's it's it's it's both of those things. 358 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 3: It's just fun to be on a show with a 359 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 3: that it's like a carousel like that, people coming in 360 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: and out, some staying longer than others. 361 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's. 362 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: Worth it if it's worth it, Yes. 363 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: Yes, definitely, definitely the rest. 364 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: Of feed your core cast, they're the people were really watching. 365 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: That's true. 366 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: But I also think, like with you guys especially, I 367 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: was just thinking about kind of the joys of being 368 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: an actor and having chemistry with somebody. 369 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 3: It's like it right, I couldn't have guessed. Well, you know, 370 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: you're all very winning and like that's why you're on 371 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: the show and like, but but sometimes you walk into 372 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 3: a room with somebody who's you're like, in your mind 373 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 3: they're your best friend, but it's you realize it's a part, 374 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: it's a role. You're not that person. Yes, and I 375 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: didn't find her necessary. She was very approachable. I don't 376 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: know that she would have remembered. We did another movie. 377 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 3: There was a movie called Til There Was You we 378 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 3: were both in, but we didn't cross pads on it 379 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 3: at all, and that was a few years ago. Wow beforehand, 380 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 3: but pretty forgettable movie. Jean triple Horn. 381 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 2: Wow. Dylan McDermott, No way, I don't even think I've 382 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: seen this. 383 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: They were the Tracy and hepburn of the of the movie. 384 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 3: But Sarah Desta Parker had the you know, attention getting 385 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: roll of the ex girlfriend. Oh got it, she got 386 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 3: to be rich. I remember. I just remember a scene 387 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 3: in a restaurant where she was being really funny, okay, 388 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 3: and I think we stood next to each other for 389 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: a second, but we didn't really you know, and so 390 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 3: I didn't know what to expect, and maybe based on 391 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: that experience, I thought, maybe she's going to be like 392 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 3: a movie star and it's just going to be a gig. 393 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 3: But it wasn't. The minute I came in, I was like, actually, 394 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 3: during the meeting, I got it. She's very smart and 395 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 3: so whatever whatever she needed to draw out of me 396 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: let her dry out, which was this I think just 397 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 3: sort of somebody who I think he just needed to 398 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 3: be likable and he needed to have his interests and 399 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: really like her. And I think it's a bit of 400 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 3: a fake out, you know, until he opens the door 401 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: and he's like, I don't know what shirt to put 402 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 3: put on, and then it just all starts unraveling. 403 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 2: I know, which is kind of sad, kind of sad. 404 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 3: It is kind of sad, but I always appreciate it 405 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: in a way that it didn't have to be. And 406 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 3: also that is the fight. It is that ridiculous. That 407 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: was a tough scene though, because he's his mind starts, 408 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 3: it starts sparking, and it feeds on itself. You know, 409 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: once you get going like the once, it's not like 410 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: you can unscatter yourself if you got to like sit 411 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 3: down or you know, there are ways to work through it. 412 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: But to keep talking about whatever the obsession of the set, 413 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 3: it's like you're leaping from obsession to obsession. 414 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: Interesting. 415 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 3: So he was talking about like why is there no 416 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 3: skeet shooting in New York? Oh? You know what? I 417 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 3: made fish like? And it was a bitch to memorize 418 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: because nothing had any you know, memorizing lists is the worst. 419 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: They have nothing to do. And it really was like, 420 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 3: I like, Swordfish, have you been to the baseball game? 421 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 3: And it all had to be and you couldn't just 422 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: do it like a joke. It had to be you know, 423 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 3: do you like sort of. 424 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: Specific I wanted to ask about the git. 425 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. So there was all this sort of and it 426 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 3: was really weird because, like I said, and this was 427 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 3: another thing I got from Carrie Fish. It was lead 428 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 3: with whatever your thing is, you know, like she she 429 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: That's the way she always was. And it was so inspiring, 430 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: you know that that you know, she used to say, 431 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 3: I used to get awards for acting. Now I get 432 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 3: them from being nuts. But she wasn't nuts. It was 433 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 3: it was. It was something that she normalized for herself, 434 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 3: but most importantly for other people. She really made a 435 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: dent in this world. It was like Michael J. Fox 436 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 3: is doing now and and that was important and it 437 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 3: was important for me, Like I thought, I did think 438 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: I want to do this, but I'm not going to 439 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 3: let them make fun of it. And it never came up. Oh, 440 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 3: I'm so glad it never came up. It was it was. 441 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: It was funny in the way that life is funny, 442 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 3: and it is funny, but it was it also was 443 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 3: it was properly sad. At the end. I was glad 444 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: that they didn't just make it a you know, yeah, 445 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 3: showay joke like, oh he is, that's what that was 446 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: his problem, I think it was. And the way she 447 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 3: played it, they showed her walking home. Yeah, and it 448 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: was a genuine disappointment. Gravity. I really thought that was 449 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 3: It's one of the great things about the show is 450 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: it just didn't go and next week's episode like it. 451 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: Had resonance is a good word. Absolutely true, Absolutely true. 452 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you, thank you for 453 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: joining us, but also thank you for being part of 454 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: our show that I love so much, and you're part 455 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: so great. 456 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 3: When you guys, I think I don't know which movie 457 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 3: it was, And then when you guys did the sequel 458 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: to the series one day, you were shooting literally across 459 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 3: from my apartment down well, I was down on Horatio. 460 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I. 461 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 3: Don't know if you were there, but there was something 462 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 3: the show was shooting at the Whitney. 463 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was there. I was there. We were 464 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: all there. Oh my god. 465 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 3: And I had had a thought when I think when 466 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 3: you guys were doing that, maybe it was the third 467 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: or I don't remember which movie was, but I just thought, 468 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: I want to pitch this idea and I don't even 469 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 3: want to be paid because it's nothing, and I just 470 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 3: think it's a funny idea, which was Harry's walking between scenes. 471 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: See literally wouldn't have change anything. But she's walking from 472 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 3: one thing to another, looks in a storefront and there's 473 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: Ray like looking at a cannon too, and their eyes 474 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 3: meet and he goes like that and she goes in. 475 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 3: She goes, Ray, how how are you? How have you been? 476 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 3: I'm great. I think of you from time to time, 477 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 3: and you actually think is he going to be? And 478 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 3: then she goes, it's funny, you know. I don't know 479 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,239 Speaker 3: if you remember big mister big and starts and then 480 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 3: looks up and I'm gone, and I literally across the street. 481 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 3: I've seen somebody else that I know. Just a quick 482 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: add cameo. 483 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 2: Again, I'm gonna. 484 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 3: I was gonna run over to the whitney, and I thought, 485 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 3: I can't be the guy pitching a part. 486 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: Oh, but it would have been so cute. You should 487 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: have just come say hi. 488 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: I should have said, you should have. 489 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: We were there for a long time. We were there 490 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 2: for a long time. 491 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 3: That was a heavy time though too. I also I didn't. 492 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 3: I think the reason I didn't was because, uh, there 493 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 3: was there was some press about like we're not going 494 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: it's not gonna you know, the world has changed, so 495 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 3: it's not gonna be the happy, go lucky, let's get shoes. 496 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: You know, say that that's true, that's not what. 497 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 3: That's how what they said. That was clib but but 498 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: but they they did say, it's not it's not going 499 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 3: to be it's not going to be the same tone. 500 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 3: It's not it's a it's they really wanted to find 501 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 3: the gravity of where would these people be and time 502 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: is going on, so there is that element And I thought, 503 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: I don't know that I like even going into the 504 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 3: room as a as a guy who would be associated 505 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 3: with the last. 506 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: True that we could have used your energy like. 507 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 3: Hindsight. But of course this is going to be like oh, 508 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: it's going to be shot like you know, handheld, and 509 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 3: it's going to be very important like the O you 510 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: know at that point, so I thought, the last thing 511 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 3: they need is the you know you're speak. But I didn't. 512 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 3: It was it was an impulse. It wasn't I get it. 513 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: But we would have loved to see you. It's always 514 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: fine time when you guys come back. I mean, I 515 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: don't know if we'll ever come back but who knows 516 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 1: what this jacks in space? 517 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: Sex and space. I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you 518 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: could do whatever we want. 519 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: That'd be fun, that'd be fine. Okay, wait, I have 520 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: one more question that I can't forget to ask you. 521 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: It's a little weird, but would you describe yourself Craig 522 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: as a Charlotte. 523 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 3: I think I would because of all the you know, 524 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: yours was the one everybody I know that it's a trope. Yeah, 525 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 3: you're a carrier, right, I wouldn't know. I like to 526 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 3: think of myself as a full, rich human being, right, 527 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: you know. Contradictions, Sure, I contain multitudes, of course. I 528 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 3: felt like I knew who you know. Yes, it's exceptionally 529 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 3: well written, but I could identify. I could almost guess 530 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: how every character was going to react to things, and 531 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: that it was always a pleasant surprise because it was 532 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 3: written smartly, and they wouldn't. But I knew the characters, 533 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: and I don't feel like I was able to pigeonhole 534 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 3: Charlotte that way. In that way, I like to think 535 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 3: that I am a Charlotte. I love it because I don't, 536 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 3: you know, I don't feel like I fit into any category. 537 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 3: It used to frustrate the hell out of me, and 538 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 3: now it just frustrates at of me. But no, I honestly, 539 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: I know, I know it was I know that there 540 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 3: were differences that that's that's that your character apart, and 541 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: maybe it was just the situations that seemed a little 542 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 3: bit more grounded sometimes. 543 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: Oh thank you, that's so nice. 544 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 3: And and the way that you played it too. It 545 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: was always just a very I couldn't I couldn't figure. 546 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 3: I wasn't ahead of the character, is what I'm saying. 547 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. 548 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: I mean I think some of that really I have 549 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: to credit Michael Patrick with because I think he would 550 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: envision her arc in such a way that it was 551 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: really grounded, and then I would just trust him, you know, 552 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: and it always would kind of veer around in ways 553 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: that I wouldn't even see coming. But yet her self 554 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: was always the same, meaning like ground grounded. 555 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 3: You know. 556 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: Well, you were a joy. Thank you so so much much. 557 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: It's my pleasure. It really nice to get to talk 558 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 3: to you. 559 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 2: I know, thank you. 560 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 3: I feel like I've been associated with you. But it's 561 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 3: like that's my younger sister. By the time she was born, 562 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 3: I was in college. 563 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, not at all, not at all, 564 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: but also, yeah, it is that frustrating thing where like 565 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: I didn't always get to connect with everybody, you know. Yeah, yeah, 566 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: but it's nice to get to do so. 567 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 3: Now I'm glad you're doing it. 568 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. I'm glad that you joined us. 569 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: You added so much, Thank you so much.