WEBVTT - Mosquitoes!

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<v Speaker 1>Also media trudio muski to annoyse the intro.

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<v Speaker 2>How do we do that? That's why you get you

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<v Speaker 2>can hear them, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, yeah, here we are. That's it. That's the introduction.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all you're getting, and you will be grateful for it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's me. It's Cherine Higgerene Hi, James Hi, Tarina.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we? Are we doing vegetables today? Are we

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<v Speaker 1>doing genocide? Which part of the vegetable genocide spectrum? Wheel.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we're closer to vegetable than genocide, but

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<v Speaker 2>you can argue the opposite as well, because I get

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<v Speaker 2>eat it alive by these things.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're kind of in the middle here. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a good even metal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, we've very split the difference. Look, let us go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's right, it's things to eat serene alive today is

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<v Speaker 1>flesh eating bacteria day, It's not. Does not have a

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<v Speaker 1>flesh eating bacteria that I thought we were doing. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to surprise you sometimes, just see how you act.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing mosquitos actually, scheren mosquitos Yep, yep. Little guys,

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<v Speaker 1>little friendly guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Who they're not friendly and they're always little.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, some of them are absolute chunks. Yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen some big dogs recently. Did you know the mosquito

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<v Speaker 1>serene is the most deadly animal in the world. Really, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an animal. Yeah, I mean it's in the animal kingdom, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose it's insect nuisance.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not insect on animals and nuisance. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't realize it was considered the most deadly animal.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that just from like valaria?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and all the other diseases at vectors. Right, it

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<v Speaker 1>can do parasites, bacteria, and viruses, so it's really like

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<v Speaker 1>a triple threat when you can get like chuck and gun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Dane Gay, I've got a whole list of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are they still around?

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<v Speaker 1>That is an interesting question, Sharene.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always wondered that like bees have benefits, like they

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<v Speaker 2>make they're cute little guys, and they make honey, and

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<v Speaker 2>they just want to pollinate around.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of mosquitoes do too. Lots also, or they don't

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<v Speaker 1>make honey. Lots of species of mosquito just feed of flowers.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not out there to get you. It is just

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<v Speaker 1>the the lady mosquitoes of certain species.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the lady insects man? The queen bee? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the black widow.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Yeah, it's it's true. Yeah, it's I

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<v Speaker 1>guess maybe they're a matriarchal society, you know, and they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, I guess technically a spider is not insect, right, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a yeas to correct me on the reddit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>please please post your genus and species stuff on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the reddit. I would love that. So, yeah, mosquitoes,

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<v Speaker 1>they're stacking some bondies, about three quarters of a million

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<v Speaker 1>people a year in fact, which is quite a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess for culture to the genocide and on

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<v Speaker 2>the spectrum.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Sadly, I don't know, the mosquitoes

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<v Speaker 1>don't have so much agency, so I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they're quite as like evil. You know, the word of

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<v Speaker 1>course a moscow. The moscow is a fly in Spanish.

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<v Speaker 2>And then each I think, of course, like why I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you might know that, you know, like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that. I'm just gonna look this up. Mosquitoes or

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<v Speaker 1>origin word? Well, now, mosca is a fly, ito is

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<v Speaker 1>a diminutive ending, so it means like a little fly. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>little fly, yeah, a fly.

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<v Speaker 2>Lit And there's also a Spanish word that means long legged.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on from mosquito.

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<v Speaker 2>The Spanish called the mosquitoes mosquetas, and the Native Hispanic

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<v Speaker 2>Americans call them zenkudos. Mosquito is Spanish or Portuguese and

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<v Speaker 2>it means a little fly, while zen kudos is a

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<v Speaker 2>Spanish word that means long legged.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah. Okay, there we go and learning the etymology today

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<v Speaker 1>here and then I didn't have that. I just had

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<v Speaker 1>a little fly based on it being a little fly

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<v Speaker 1>in Spanish.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like that long legged. Well, we have daddy

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<v Speaker 1>long legs, I guess, but he's a mosquito. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>technically mosquitoes are actually micro predators, which is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a fun word. I feel like I've met some micro

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<v Speaker 1>predators in my time, but they were not mosquitoes, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is because some of them thrive by drinking human blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about it. Yeah, that is the reason, sharing

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<v Speaker 1>that you have encountered mosquito. So I want to I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk first about their life cycle and then

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<v Speaker 1>about their their predation on Charine so mosquito say the

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<v Speaker 1>eggs in stagnant water, that that's water that's not moving.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I know somethings, Jane, Okay, okay, not everyone knows

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<v Speaker 3>about stagnant water, Charine. There are listeners too.

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<v Speaker 1>They might not know. So their eggs hatched into lava,

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<v Speaker 1>and the lava become pupa. These stages are all aquatic, right,

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<v Speaker 1>They all happen in the stagnant water, right, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the adult mosquito hatches from the pupa and it hatches

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<v Speaker 1>on the surface and then it flies off and it

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<v Speaker 1>sucks up your evening.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't realized that you had anything to do with water.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's why, Like did this not happen in La

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<v Speaker 1>a few years ago? They this council was like sending

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<v Speaker 1>people around San Diego to like scope out your garden

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<v Speaker 1>to see if you had standing water. Right, if that

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<v Speaker 1>did happen, I have no memory during peak. Yeah, let's see,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's why it was peaked, like zeko panic.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that makes sense that that would happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah it does. And we definitely get them, like

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<v Speaker 1>I have to put a little over side like a

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<v Speaker 1>thing that kills the eggs into my chicken water. If

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having a big standing thing of chicken water, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I try and have smaller and refresh it more frequently now.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you definitely have to be careful of stagnant water.

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<v Speaker 1>And as we'll see, like one of the main ways

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<v Speaker 1>to control them is like limiting the amount of stagnant

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<v Speaker 1>water for some species only the females that a species

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<v Speaker 1>are the bloodsuckers, and in some cases they don't need

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<v Speaker 1>the blood, and in other cases to lay their eggs

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<v Speaker 1>they need to have a blood meal as it's called

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<v Speaker 1>h which is a nice words unsettling. Okay, Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>the mosquitoes that are vectors for human diseases, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>like the transportation vector vehicle for the disease between one

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<v Speaker 1>person and another, those are the guys who often need

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<v Speaker 1>a little blood meal to day the eggs. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>only attack people, actually, they sort of have a preferred species,

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<v Speaker 1>but in a pinch, they'll go after anything with blood.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've seen them get really thick on cattle and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in the summer, or horses.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can imagine that. Yeah, because cow's just sit there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if they're being mosquito attack, they get pissed off.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's only so much they can do. In some cases,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's horses. Equinumcephalitis is spread by mosquitos, so

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<v Speaker 1>they can actually get it. They can get diseases from

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<v Speaker 1>two terrible little guys, and they can like literally die

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<v Speaker 1>from being overbitten. And if they get like completely swarmed

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<v Speaker 1>on wow, yeah, that's like if they're unable to get

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<v Speaker 1>away from them. Because if you have a water tank, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then mosquitos are breeding in the tank, it's where

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<v Speaker 1>you want to keep that tank moving like right.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not stagnant water, because stagnant water means it's

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<v Speaker 2>not moving.

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<v Speaker 1>There, you go look at that actually and putting knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>into it. I let that be like one of those

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<v Speaker 1>Guo Linga things where you learn a word then use

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<v Speaker 1>it in a sentence exactly. Yeah. All I do is

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<v Speaker 1>use that word. Yeah. Yeah, So yeah, musket has come

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<v Speaker 1>out adorn or dusk, which is to say they are crepuscular,

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<v Speaker 1>another word that everyone already knows.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I did learn that word. I did like

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<v Speaker 2>an audiobook and I had to look this word up,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I know what it means only because of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a very interesting word. I will say it

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it sounds like creepy, Like I would have no

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<v Speaker 2>idea what it meant if I didn't look it up,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's nothing that clues me in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, crepusculate. It sounds like, yeah, of gress because like

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<v Speaker 1>diurnal nocturnal you can kind of if you know one,

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<v Speaker 1>you can work out. But crepuscular, it is coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of fucking left field.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crepust Does that mean which remind me? It means

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<v Speaker 2>that they're active don and desk or that they're eating it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it means they Yeah, they are. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>actually sure if it means it active or they're eating.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I feel like I've heard cats are also described

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<v Speaker 2>as that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, cats are definitely that way animal appearing active in

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<v Speaker 1>Twilight active.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's very poetic. The first animal I see here

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<v Speaker 2>as a cat, Yeah, lion, American woodcock, firefly, short eared owl. Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're real, the pantheon and animals. So they do

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<v Speaker 1>the feeding at doorn a desk and they actually use

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<v Speaker 1>compounds in your exhale breath to sniff you out. So

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<v Speaker 1>they are they are hunting for people. They specifically prefer

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<v Speaker 1>to feed on people who have type O blood, an

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<v Speaker 1>abundance of skin bacteria, high body heat, and pregnant women.

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<v Speaker 1>If you fit one or all of those criteria. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that because people like definitely, I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>have type of blood. Yeah too, I feel like I'm victimized,

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<v Speaker 1>like more than most people by the mosquito and they

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<v Speaker 1>choose me. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like me and my mom are both TYPEO

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<v Speaker 2>and we get you know, live, So that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they somehow they can smell that on you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always cold, though, so I don't think I have

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<v Speaker 2>high bars heat. Not always cold, but I can. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know I have beat circulation, not pregnant. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I must have an abundance of skin bag.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gonna be a skin bacteriasuring by process of deduction.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but TYPEO makes sense. I think like that is enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose. Yeah, they because when it's a lot of them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and when one of them starts feeding on you,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to trigger more of them to come feeding

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<v Speaker 1>on you.

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<v Speaker 2>How because they're like, look at this, this idiot, let's

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<v Speaker 2>go feed off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, look at this. It is delicious blood that

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<v Speaker 1>is typo. Yeah, got it, Yeah, yum yum. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they're giving off their little feeding sort of vibes and

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<v Speaker 1>then the other mosquitoes come, which can be useful to

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<v Speaker 1>trap them. But it's a fair point. The trapping of

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<v Speaker 1>mosquitos's I learned when I was doing this. Very fucking interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, ooh, okay, tell me more. Actually maybe not now,

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<v Speaker 2>but whenever you get to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well we'll get to a tune. They have a

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting set of mouth parts and including the labium,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like a gutter shaped cueube mouth tube okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, And it's super sharp and they can use

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<v Speaker 1>it to saw through your skin painlessly, so you never

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you don't feel.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the that's the needle looking thing. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the little thing they poke you with.

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<v Speaker 1>And then well they do that, then they have little

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<v Speaker 1>needle looking things that kind of that it contained within

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<v Speaker 1>the gutter shape that they use to suck out your blood. Gross.

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<v Speaker 1>They're saliva stops your blood from clotting, and it prevents

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<v Speaker 1>vascular constriction in the area where they're biting, so they

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<v Speaker 1>can get a little bit extra blood before it clots.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. Some people can become desensitized to their bites

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<v Speaker 1>over time if you're getting bit and all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>others can become more sensitive and then increased sensitivity is

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<v Speaker 1>known as Skeeter syndrome.

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<v Speaker 2>Skeeter syndrome what it looks like because I'm very sensitive

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<v Speaker 2>to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, maybe we've got two diagnoses in one episode. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got skin bacteria and Skeeter syndrome.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I need to have to have

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<v Speaker 2>Skeeter syndrome, but I will say I'm extreme insensitive to

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<v Speaker 2>mosquito bites. When I get bit in they become gigantic.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't even will now I'll wote itch them because

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<v Speaker 2>I know not to at this point. But I'll get

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<v Speaker 2>these like gigantic welts essentially, and they're bright pink, and

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<v Speaker 2>then over the course of like a week or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and they become bright red and they look like someone

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<v Speaker 2>put paint on my leg. It's like it's a crazy

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<v Speaker 2>color of red. And then when they eventually do stop itching,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have that welt there in that red mark for.

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<v Speaker 1>Like months, damn months. It's like it becomes like this

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<v Speaker 1>weird scar. Yeah, you could be a squito syndrome, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, yeah, I will say when I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a kid in Syria, when we would go visit there,

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<v Speaker 2>they have so many mosquitoes. I got in alive because

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<v Speaker 2>we would go there in the summer too. But there

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<v Speaker 2>was one time I got bit in on my eyelid

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<v Speaker 2>like this, that sucks, and so I genuinely couldn't open

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<v Speaker 2>my eye for like a week and a half. That

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<v Speaker 2>was the worst one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm like that with beastings, like they they

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<v Speaker 1>swell up like crazy, Like I don't think I'm like anaphylactic.

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<v Speaker 1>But a couple of times time I was racing in

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<v Speaker 1>Laguna Seca, which is like a car racing track in Monterey,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm racing along and I guess I'm riding along

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<v Speaker 1>with my mouth open. It's just just like you know, thriving,

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<v Speaker 1>and a mosquito flew in and bit me. I do

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<v Speaker 1>a mosquito a bee, and my whole face just was

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<v Speaker 1>like in your mouth. Yeah, it was crazy, it was bad. Ship. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was fucked. One had just stung me before, like

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<v Speaker 1>the extent which I swell like when be staying me.

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<v Speaker 1>I got stung in the leg on a training ride

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<v Speaker 1>and I had to upgrade to like EXL shorts because

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<v Speaker 1>like my thigh just become like yeah, and then one

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<v Speaker 1>got me in the mouth. It was a bad day.

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<v Speaker 1>I had an EpiPen, I had I think I had

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<v Speaker 1>some ivy bed drill at some point. Oh yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was fucking well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm glad you're not in a phylactic, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty close.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. Yeah, yeah, it's better you can get one

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<v Speaker 1>time I got. I got stung in a face when

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<v Speaker 1>I was to go to lecture as well, and like

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<v Speaker 1>walked in with like elephant man face and my stream. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just like dude, it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Those photos or videos you see of like animals like

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<v Speaker 2>a dog at a to b and their faces like gigantic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah it is, Uh it's two dogs. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>love to eat peas?

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<v Speaker 2>I will say, I don't know if you've ever done

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three and Me, but I did it years and

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<v Speaker 2>years ago for another show I was on and on

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three and Me. You can select if you want,

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<v Speaker 2>like health traits as well as like ancestral traits or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, and on that it said I am more

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<v Speaker 2>likely to get a bitten by mosquitoes.

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<v Speaker 1>They gay. Maybe it just need your blood.

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<v Speaker 2>Type, but I didn't give them my blood given my spit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that's crazy. Maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>something in it has no blood type. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We've just discovered that shream is on

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<v Speaker 1>a eugenics podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was for my podcast that was about this

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<v Speaker 2>is tea Ankay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, some real problematic folks do love twenty three and me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very funny when the white nationalists got one twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three and me and find out how they get upset.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I love that and it's always fun to see.

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<v Speaker 1>So the real problem with mosquitos is not just that

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<v Speaker 1>they make you a trip, but they're vectors for disease

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<v Speaker 1>and they infect seven hundred million people a year with

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<v Speaker 1>their little bitey mouths. They can spread all kinds of diseases,

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<v Speaker 1>including viruses, parasites, and bacteria. Some of their greatest hits

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<v Speaker 1>include yellow fever, Dangay malaria, Tuderimia, zeka, chicken gunya, and

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<v Speaker 1>West Nile virus. Speaking from experience, some of those are

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<v Speaker 1>really shit, and you are best avoiding all of those.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to be my advice. To you as a

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<v Speaker 1>doctor in one European history, it really fucking sucks to

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<v Speaker 1>get some of these. I've had some diseases from some mosquitoes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would not recommend The mosquitoes don't actually get

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<v Speaker 1>sick themselves. And it's like it's immune system can destroy

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<v Speaker 1>the virus, but if it bites someone else and then

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<v Speaker 1>bites you before it's immune system destroys the virus' genetic code,

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<v Speaker 1>you can get sick and at some parasites. Apparently malaria

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<v Speaker 1>can make mosquitoes more apt to go biting. Interesting, it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of turns them into zombie brain mosquitos. It's how

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<v Speaker 1>I like to think about it. With malaria, which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the main mosquito vector disease. I guess that

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<v Speaker 1>we think about the parasite replicates in the liver cells

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<v Speaker 1>and then moves about by the bloodstream. If you get

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<v Speaker 1>bitten again, the blood could then pass that malaria to

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<v Speaker 1>the next victim of the mosquito. I'm going on a

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<v Speaker 1>trip soon for work. I'll probably be on it when

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<v Speaker 1>you will hear this. And like, because people are traveling more,

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<v Speaker 1>all these different diseases are becoming more common. Right They're

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<v Speaker 1>endemic in one area, and then people come from that

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<v Speaker 1>area to another area, and then mosquitos are hopping around

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<v Speaker 1>when they're in a new area that they're now spreading

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<v Speaker 1>in that area. So we've talked to some folks like

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<v Speaker 1>on the areas where migrants travel north, all the types

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<v Speaker 1>of malaria are now currently present, which is great because

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<v Speaker 1>you've got people from all over the world, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the mosquitos are hopping from someone from China to

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's come from Mauritania and spreading their little mosquito

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<v Speaker 1>vector diseases around. So that is bad treating. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what else is bad?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry my mind was so blank, But ads are

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<v Speaker 2>not good. No, they're not bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Ads are great. As are so good that we love them.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yay ads.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're back, and I want to talk about how

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<v Speaker 1>we stop the mosquito nennis. Please help. So I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about eliminating them, and then I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some products and services actually that you can

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<v Speaker 1>avail yourself off. I'd been thinking about this a lot

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<v Speaker 1>recently for work reasons, right, Yeah, doing some jungle travel

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<v Speaker 1>in the next few months. So how do we prevent

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<v Speaker 1>them from biting us? First of all, we can stop

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<v Speaker 1>them having little useful pools of stagnant water to replicate

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<v Speaker 1>in right, Like this means like if you're like me,

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<v Speaker 1>one of my friends referred to my my garden as

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<v Speaker 1>a quote Alaska yard, which it's a way of saying

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a mess and there are lots of like

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<v Speaker 1>car parts and like little little things that I am

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<v Speaker 1>fixing soon, you know, And I guess having an Alaska

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<v Speaker 1>yard is bad for the mosquitos, like especially things like tires,

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<v Speaker 1>right Like, you know, if you have a big car tire,

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<v Speaker 1>water pools in there, and they can have a little

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<v Speaker 1>breed in there, same as buckets in marshy areas. What

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<v Speaker 1>people do is they dig ditches that allows water to

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<v Speaker 1>move so that water doesn't sit completely still. And then

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<v Speaker 1>introducing certain fish it can also help certain fish will eat,

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<v Speaker 1>including the mosquito. Fish will eat the LoVa of the mosquito.

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<v Speaker 1>Tilapia also do this so like you can have a

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<v Speaker 1>nice little if you're a person who eats fish, a

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<v Speaker 1>nice still situation where you're reducing the disease burden. And

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<v Speaker 1>also like providing a food source, which is something they're

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<v Speaker 1>working on. You can drain swamps. Of course, Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>famously has drained the swamp right, yeah, I hear no

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<v Speaker 1>malaria do you see anymore because of Donald Trump? But

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<v Speaker 1>doing so obviously destroys an important habitat. Certainly you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to just be draining swamps. I was reading about

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<v Speaker 1>something in Florida they do called rotational impound management, where

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of allow water levels to fluctuate, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they have these clever little gates that mean that that

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<v Speaker 1>other species like the fish and the crustaceans can move about,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're keeping them water moving. To stop the little

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<v Speaker 1>mosquito eggs. For me, the other way to do it

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<v Speaker 1>is to try and kill them, right, So there are

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<v Speaker 1>various ways of doing that. One of them is to

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<v Speaker 1>create an environment where they would want to lay their eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>but then have that environment kill their eggs. So there

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<v Speaker 1>are various at home ways of doing this. So like

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<v Speaker 1>you could make a stagnant water thing and then blitz

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<v Speaker 1>up the eggs or filter them out, or you can

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<v Speaker 1>put things oversides in there which to kill the eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them also kill the mosquitos when they come

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<v Speaker 1>and lay their eggs. You can also use their little

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<v Speaker 1>hunting senses against them, right, So you can create an

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<v Speaker 1>environment that attracts them either by seeming like a person

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<v Speaker 1>or by seeming like a good place for them to breed.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you can filter out the eggs from where

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<v Speaker 1>they lay them, right, you can kill them when they

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<v Speaker 1>come on in. There are things called lava sides. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm using with my chicken thing actually that

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<v Speaker 1>destroy the lava. There are little bricks that you dissolve

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<v Speaker 1>in your water, and there are some pretty low risk

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<v Speaker 1>insecticides that you can use. And there are also high

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<v Speaker 1>risk in sexicides, or at least underpopular intexticides. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is where a friend of the Cauzone media network DDT

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<v Speaker 1>comes in. Are you familiar with DDT treed? No, there

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<v Speaker 1>are friends, Yeah, there are friends. We love DDT Big

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<v Speaker 1>Appetise on pod. We love them because until about sixty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, the US government fucking loved DDT. Right. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an insecticide. They would put it in walls, in mattresses,

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<v Speaker 1>People rubbed their pets with it. For a while, people

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<v Speaker 1>thought they treated polio. They would even go through towns

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<v Speaker 1>spraying down whole neighborhoods with DDT right, and people kind

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<v Speaker 1>of became aware the DDT actually isn't a great idea,

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<v Speaker 1>both pre ecological and health reasons, about sixty years ago

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<v Speaker 1>when Rachel Carson published a book called Silent Spring. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of one of the foundational texts of the environmental movement.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think people are asked in credit like Rachel

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<v Speaker 1>Carson with being the only person that that's not necessarily true.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can look at migrant farm workers actually and

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<v Speaker 1>see that they have been for a long time being Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's great that you're dosing us with

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<v Speaker 1>this pesticide all the time. Like, maybe stop spraying us

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<v Speaker 1>with the DDT, you stop playing the places. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to quote a really good piece there in the New

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<v Speaker 1>Republic on DDT. We now know that DDT causes tumors

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<v Speaker 1>in mice and rats. It thins birds eggs to the

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<v Speaker 1>point that mothers indivertently crush their gestating offspring. It may

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<v Speaker 1>disrupt bird sense of orientation, sending them out to seed

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<v Speaker 1>to die. It fundamentally alters the reproductive ordin and so

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<v Speaker 1>array of critters. It can poison animals even decades after

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<v Speaker 1>spraying has ended. Further, a growing body of evidence has

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<v Speaker 1>linked DT to numerous forms of cancer in humans, especially

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<v Speaker 1>breast cancer. Studies have shown how the levels of DDT

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<v Speaker 1>in our bodies track inequalities in human society. For instance,

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<v Speaker 1>there are higher DDT levels in black people than in whites,

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<v Speaker 1>and higher levels in poor people than in rich ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like you reliant to me when you said that

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<v Speaker 2>there are friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like within the cool zone media network

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<v Speaker 1>of making podcasts about evil shit. DDT I think fits perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>That's terrible, Yeah, it's terrible. There's recently like a resurgence

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<v Speaker 1>in I guess, like people standing DDT again and questioning

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<v Speaker 1>some of it, like research around it. But we know

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<v Speaker 1>for sure that it's ecologically damaging, and what we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know is the consequences of wiping out a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>species in the ecosystem, so we probably don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>use DDT. One thing we can do to kill them

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<v Speaker 1>is introduce predators, which is kind of cool. Tilap Year

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<v Speaker 1>is one predator. Dragonflies or another. I love a dragonfly,

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<v Speaker 1>big interesting flies, so Bekina fasso. They're working on a

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<v Speaker 1>fungus with a mosquito specific neurotoxin, which is kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It can just grow and kill the mosquitos. The World

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<v Speaker 1>Mosquito programs also trialing a bacteria that when mosquitos carry it,

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<v Speaker 1>it amps up their immune system, so like they kill

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<v Speaker 1>the virus or the parasite or whatever it is right

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<v Speaker 1>more quickly, so then they're less lightly to be vectors.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also programs which introduce male mosquitos which are not

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<v Speaker 1>able to have kids, either they're sterile or they're breeding

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<v Speaker 1>results in eggs that won't hatch, So that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to control the population that way. And they also

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<v Speaker 1>have these really interesting genetically modified mosquitos that need antibiotic

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<v Speaker 1>tetracycline to grow, So they raise a batch in the

0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:34.679
<v Speaker 1>lab and give them the tetracycline that they need, right,

0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:36.439
<v Speaker 1>and then they let them out to breed, and then

0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:39.760
<v Speaker 1>when they breed, because they're young, don't have tetracycline, they

0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:42.320
<v Speaker 1>don't grow and they don't make it. It's really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to think about. Like some folks are advocating for completely

0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:48.679
<v Speaker 1>eradicating them, just wiping them off the face of the planet,

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:50.600
<v Speaker 1>which would seem to have many benefits, right with all

0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:54.400
<v Speaker 1>these diseases that they vector. I'm one of those people. Yeah,

0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:57.879
<v Speaker 1>you're a mosquito. Genocider. I found its interesting pieces that

0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:01.479
<v Speaker 1>they're like a forest's defense fromanism against humans. Like if

0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:04.400
<v Speaker 1>we look at that, like the ecosystem's.

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Way of being like get out of here, yeah.

0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.679
<v Speaker 1>Like leaves this place alone. Yeah, which is interesting, But

0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 1>like I know, it's hard because the people who mostly

0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 1>die from mosquito vector diseases and the people with the

0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:18.919
<v Speaker 1>least access to resources, right right, yeah, even things like

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you're very sick with some of these things,

0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:24.720
<v Speaker 1>you need to be you know, kept hydrated and kept

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:26.399
<v Speaker 1>cool as your temperature gets up and stuff, and you

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:28.199
<v Speaker 1>don't have AC and you maybe you can't get an

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:32.400
<v Speaker 1>IV or whatever, like a very preventable death could occur, right,

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and so right, it's hard, real hard for me sitting

0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:39.000
<v Speaker 1>in America to be like, no, we shouldn't. But I

0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:42.359
<v Speaker 1>guess I understand that argument. But if we go about

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:45.360
<v Speaker 1>it by fucking dousing whole areas and DDT again, then

0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 1>that's not great either. Right, that can have it. That

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 1>can then can have its downside. Anyone else has its downside.

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Shrewm What it's having to pivot to add every ten

0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:59.199
<v Speaker 1>to fifteen minutes in this job that we do. So

0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 1>we're going to do it. Now we're back. We are

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:16.119
<v Speaker 1>entering the final trimester of our podcast and yeah, if

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.879
<v Speaker 1>you like that, I like to I'd like to think

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 1>of them as trimesters, the last slice of this little

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.840
<v Speaker 1>podcast cake for you guys. Yeah, So I wanted to

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 1>present some little strategies I like to use please when

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I am going to places where I am worried about

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:34.720
<v Speaker 1>being eaten alive by the little flies.

0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Wait, okay, you see all these like DIY, like this

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:40.520
<v Speaker 2>is how track mosquito somewhere else, But like none of

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 2>those have been mentioned, So is.

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:43.480
<v Speaker 1>That all bullshit? What do they taught me through?

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:45.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I have to look it up, but

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I've seen like little things where it's

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:49.240
<v Speaker 2>like put this bucket of water here, or like put

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 2>like lemon or honey or like something to attract like

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 2>general insects and then mosquitos or like even like light

0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 2>can attract mosquitos. You put like a light somewhere. But

0:24:58.840 --> 0:24:59.880
<v Speaker 2>this sounds all like.

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:02.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can do that. You can even use a fan, right,

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 1>because I know, honestly, very good flyers like they you

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:08.120
<v Speaker 1>can just kind of blow them away from you. So yeah,

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:12.239
<v Speaker 1>in terms of like small scale mosquito prevention. Yeah, I'm

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:14.439
<v Speaker 1>going to get into some of those. Okay, cool. The

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:16.719
<v Speaker 1>most useful thing for me is mosquito in its actually,

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 1>so like in the jungle, I like to sleep in

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>a hammock. This one called the Jungle Nest, the Eagles

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Nest Outfitters make that has like a built in mosquito

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:27.199
<v Speaker 1>in it. That's nice. Yeah, it's really nice. Like I like,

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 1>so I don't have to fuck around with like draping

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 1>it and worry about like the little gaps, right. Yeah,

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:33.160
<v Speaker 1>And I use that a lot. I use a whole

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:35.159
<v Speaker 1>little system that they make, and it's it's really nice.

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 1>If I'm in hotels, seat a Summit makes a sleeping

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 1>bag liner A I like to take seeking bagline up

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:43.920
<v Speaker 1>when I'm going places like I I got fucking fleas

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>from a hotel bed in Rwanda. Oh no, yeah it

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 1>was bad, like if you think mosquito had to try

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:52.720
<v Speaker 1>it having And for people who haven't seen me, I'm

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 1>a hairy person, like have long hair and had a beard,

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and fleas were just upon me and it was bad.

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.399
<v Speaker 1>So I like to take a little sleeping bag liner

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 1>now that's treated with a mosquito repellant, but it must

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 1>be safe for skin and stuff though, right, yeah, yeah,

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 1>it's embedded in the fabric called permethrine. We'll talk about

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>it in a second. Literally, the last thing I use

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>is a head bugnet. I'm a massive advocate for the

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 1>head bugnet. I know you look like a complete lemon,

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>but like, it's just I don't like to be bitten

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>in the face.

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 2>No, I have been been in the face, so yeah,

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:28.480
<v Speaker 2>it's not fun.

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, take it from Charine bite sur either. If you

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 1>have a brimmed hat, it's much nicer because it sort

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>of hangs in front of your face then. But I

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 1>wear with these all the time. If you like to

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 1>see wildlife, it's nice too because it's kind of camouflaging,

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>like it takes the glare off your face. You get

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>really bad insects up in Scotland, like when I've been

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:47.879
<v Speaker 1>out there in the summer time at Form one, and

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I wear a lot. In California, there are some places

0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 1>like to hike where we have year round water here,

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>but it's definitely pretty gross by like the end of

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the summer, you know, like it's been sitting for a while.

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 1>But water is a bit constraint on your on your

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 1>hiking out here, right, so you kind of need it.

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 1>So I'll go down there and filter my water. But

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I wear my little bug face net and it works great.

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I love it. So after that you can also do repellance.

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 1>These come in two forms, so it's the one that

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:17.199
<v Speaker 1>you put on your clothes and the ones that you

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:19.880
<v Speaker 1>put on your body. Right. The one that you put

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:23.439
<v Speaker 1>on your clothes is called permethrine. The thing with permethrin

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:26.719
<v Speaker 1>is that it's a neurotoxin for cats, which is very

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>bad for cats. So Soya makes a little spray bottle

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>of it and you can spray it on your own

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 1>clothes and treat them, right, But if you have cats

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.639
<v Speaker 1>you have you must do this outside, like you can't

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>do it in your house with your cats. It's safe

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 1>once it's dry, so that you can spray them, let

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 1>them be on your washing line or what have you,

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and then when it's dry you can you can bring

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.919
<v Speaker 1>them aside and then it's safe, honestly, Like you can

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>also send them off to a company I think it's

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>called insect Shield and they'll spray them for you. In

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.119
<v Speaker 1>the way they do it somehow bonds it for much longer,

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>like normally at lasts for about six washes, but with

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and you can get like ten times as many washes.

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 1>And you can also buy shit like I've just got

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 1>a hoodie from a company called first Light, who make

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 1>like fancy hunting stuff that has the insect stuff built in. Yeah.

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I like that because then if you have a hoodie

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>as well, you can put you know, you get like

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of coverage.

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 2>But like, if a cat likes sat on this clothing.

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>It's fine now because it's bonded. Yeah, your cat could

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 1>like go curl up in it and then have a

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:25.879
<v Speaker 1>sleep and things. So even if it gets wet, that's okay.

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>It's when the permethro in itself is wet the first application,

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.120
<v Speaker 1>that's when it's risky. Okay, I see, I see. If

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>you're going to do that, you want to do your

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>socks as well, because they fucking love to bite around

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the ankles. Yep, my legs are their their prime target. Yeah,

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>that's their their favorite area to bite here. I don't

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>know why.

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're probably easier to access and you're less

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 2>likely to see them, I suppose. Like, and also I

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 2>feel like if you're sitting, you're moving, probably your upper

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 2>body more than your lower body.

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 1>So it's like I don't know. Yeah, it's still like

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and sneak in there. Lasted. So things to like repel them.

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 1>One of them is have you seen the thermo cells?

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Are you familiar with them? It's a brand called Off

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>that makes them too. It emits something called metha flutherin,

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and methad lutheran is like a non toxic I was

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 1>looking at the EPA guidelines for this. It's mostly non toxic.

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>It should be fine in your house, but it is

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 1>toxic to aquatic invertebrates, fish and bees because with all

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 1>these things, like I don't want to just be spraying

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 1>and insecticide into the world, right yeah, and damaging like

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 1>innocent non micro predators. So what the thermo cell does is,

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you know when people have those little things in their

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 1>houses where they put an essential oil in and it

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>puffs and the picture house not nice. Yeah, it's like that.

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>It's like that, okay, and it does that. But with

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 1>this methaplutherin and they work okay, Like if you're in

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 1>your tent stuff, they work like they don't work if

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 1>it's windy, they don't really work. They can be nice

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:56.959
<v Speaker 1>like if you set them up and let them get

0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>going for a while and then come into a space,

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 1>they can be really nice. You have other things like

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>a fan. You can have the electric traps, right, which

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of bring even electrocute them.

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 2>How do those electric traps attract them? Just the light

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 2>or like.

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>What I think it's a UV light because yeah, it

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 1>has that really bright I actually don't know that. I

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>think that electrocutes them, like when they land on it, right, Yeah,

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the light. Yeah. Those seem to be

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>like a more multi purpose insect zappa though, right, So

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I've not preferred those. I don't want to be killing

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 1>everything else, like just try and you know, leave no trace.

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 1>And then the last thing is for some reason, I've

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:32.719
<v Speaker 1>become obsessed with this recently, the different creams you can

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 1>put on yourself to stop mosquitoes going away. Ideally you

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>can kind of layer up all the things right to

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>limit you know, like the amount of just chemicals you

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 1>have to rub on your skin. Deep is the most

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 1>popular one. People are pretaty familiar with Deep. It was

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 1>developed by the US Army in the forties. The big

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>thing with deep is it's really hard on plastics, so

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a contact lens or glass wearer. I don't

0:30:55.160 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 1>know a contact lens is made of glass or plastic. Okay, yeah,

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I have worn both, and I have no idea. I'm

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna say like that with that perfect vision, I have

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 1>one either. So I don't know.

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't think it's crazy. Who was made

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 2>out of glass or plastic?

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Right? What are contact lenses? Welcome to the portion of podcasts.

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>We're sure he googles the thing.

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I guess there are types of plastic, but not the

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of plastic that comes to mind when you hear

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 2>the word high tech polymers that allow oxygen to flow

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 2>through to reach the cornea body body blow.

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 1>So I guess, yeah, sure, yeah, be careful with your deep.

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Actually, there's a question that says our contacts glass or plastic.

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 2>So I guess I'm a dummy because that's a legitimate question. No,

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 2>it's a good question that just like sounds crazy to me. Anyway,

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if the deep can get to them.

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>It can definitely, Oh yeah, it does contact lenses.

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 1>There we go. It can damage your contact lenses. It

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 1>definitely will mess with your rain gear, your tent, your sunglasses,

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>especially in higher concentrations. So like deep you can get

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 1>ten percent deep, you can get one hundred percent deep.

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>You get maximum protection at thirty percent deep. So after

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 1>that it's just you're buying yourself more time between applications. Also,

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:12.959
<v Speaker 1>it gets more concentrated your risking damaging your gear. And like,

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't like the way it makes my mouth feel,

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 1>like with the spray. If you spray it, you get

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>this like metallic dry mouth. It seems like you're killing

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 1>yourself when you walk into a cloud of deep. Okay, cool,

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 1>cool cool. I like pickcard in. It's a synthetic version

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>of an element that's found in pepper plants. Yeah, that's

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>what I usually use on I go camp. Yeah, their

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 1>little Sawyer makes a really nice picard and actually it's

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>got like a blue label on the bottle.

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's the what I use.

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Soyer. Yeah, we like Sawyer. I got to try.

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>The reason I've I've suggested so many Soy products is

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 1>because the Sawyer Foundation. We're there in the Marshall Islands

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>when I was there.

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh nice, I mean I like their shit.

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I do. I think they're a really cool company. Actually,

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 1>they seem to make stuff that like solves problems and

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<v Speaker 1>then just like keep making it. They don't make a

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<v Speaker 1>new thing every year, different color and trying to rehype it,

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>you know. Like they did really cool shap in the

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>marsh Lands. It's cool to see and like, Yeah, as

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>companies go, I think they're pretty right on. They also

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<v Speaker 1>gave us some water filters to help with the migrants

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<v Speaker 1>the other day, which is very nice of them. We

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<v Speaker 1>needed some water filters for folks crossing the border and

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>they gave us some. So they are my friends. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>their one is good. They make a nice sun cream

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<v Speaker 1>mostly as well, so you can you can double dip there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's not up to the standards of your

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<v Speaker 1>your imported sun creams, but.

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<v Speaker 2>That means sunscreen British translation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you can't make the logical leap from suncream

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>to sunscreen, yeah that is that is what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>In the British air defense though it is definitely a

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 2>cream and not a screen, so yeah, that's on us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, another incidence of British excellence. Oh my god, to

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<v Speaker 1>be fair, one of the few. What have we got

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>We've got that we have the Baking show and that's

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Ye can't think of much else. So there

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<v Speaker 1>are also like natural ones, you know, like citronella is

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<v Speaker 1>the one that people like. But I have just found

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>that those don't work very well.

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's a hit or miss. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna say, I feel like it's like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>for fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like you'll feel great that you've done something. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they just work by being strong smells that

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of mask your other smells. M And you can

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:20.439
<v Speaker 1>get synthetic and natural plant oils. And there are people

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<v Speaker 1>who will sell you bracelets with like a little thing

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>that's supposed to secrete the citronella.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I use I've used those. The ones I have

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<v Speaker 2>used look like like phone cords that are all spirally. Yeah,

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 2>but they little bracelets and I have ifill my ankles,

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 2>put them on my wrists. Sometimes they work and sometimes

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 2>I look like a dummy. But I don't know, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was I've tried everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Sometimes I just burnt incense and that kind of works. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think just kind of it's a strong smell and

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the mosquitoes don't like it. Okay, that makes sense having

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>incense and a box fan. It's not a bad solution,

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>like I've done that in places where you know, nothing

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 1>else was available, and that's pretty good. But yeah, if

0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:59.360
<v Speaker 1>you're in a place where they see the problem and

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>it's coming a bigger problem. Right, the world is getting hotter,

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the climate is changing. These swampy marsh areas are drying up,

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:09.319
<v Speaker 1>so we're getting more stagnant water and less through flow.

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Like this becoming a bigger problem, and our healthcare system

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>is continuing to be fucked and getting worse, certainly in

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>the United States, but so United Kingdom and other places.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, be careful of the mosquitoes. Remember to do

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<v Speaker 1>your sun cream before your before your mosquito cream or

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 1>lotion or whatever you're using, screen your mosquito screen. That's

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:33.359
<v Speaker 1>sort of a I got a mosquito scream? You got

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<v Speaker 1>anything to add?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think that's a good little summary about what

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<v Speaker 2>to do for mosquitos. I hate mosquito so much, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm one of those people that don't think they should

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<v Speaker 2>be around, But since they are, I guess we got

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with them. So yeah, it's nice to know

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 2>that I use like a good thing. Like I think

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 2>if I use something that you use, I'm like, Wow,

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 2>I did something right.

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Soly true. Your way ahead of me on the air

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<v Speaker 1>this sun cream.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, I think it's a it's helpful to know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure many people out there are sensors to mosquito

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<v Speaker 2>bites and anything will help if they.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, it sucks.

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:16.479
<v Speaker 2>It's getting so hot and they're everywhere. And now what's

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<v Speaker 2>really bothering me is that they're getting smaller and harder

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.240
<v Speaker 2>to see. But they're just as annoying.

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the bite still even if there's Yeah, yeah, you've

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 1>got to get a really fine mesh f your mosquito

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:29.799
<v Speaker 1>nets for that. You can't be using other products. Yeah,

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a mosquito net. I should go one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I get a mosquito net. I love a head mosquito net.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great. It serves you some. It stops the mosquitoes

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<v Speaker 1>biting you, it stops other people talking to you. Wow,

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 1>it's a great. It's great thing to have. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I have seen these videos of like someone having a

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 2>mosquito it on them and then like the mosquitoes, you

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 2>see it poking and not being able to reach.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of funny, like mosquito ares very funny. Yeah, yeah, exactly, But.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cool Yeah, thanks James.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's fine. It's a podcast brought to you by

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<v Speaker 1>me hyper focusing on things, which is what I do,

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<v Speaker 1>is the way I deal with my anxiety about going

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>to places which don't necessarily places people go for fun.

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