1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Also media trudio muski to annoyse the intro. 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 2: How do we do that? That's why you get you 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: can hear them, Okay. 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, here we are. That's it. That's the introduction. 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: That's all you're getting, and you will be grateful for it. 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: It's it's me. It's Cherine Higgerene Hi, James Hi, Tarina. 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: What are we? Are we doing vegetables today? Are we 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: doing genocide? Which part of the vegetable genocide spectrum? Wheel. 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: I feel like we're closer to vegetable than genocide, but 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 2: you can argue the opposite as well, because I get 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: eat it alive by these things. 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: I think we're kind of in the middle here. I 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: think it's a good even metal. 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we've very split the difference. Look, let us go. Yeah, 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: it's right, it's things to eat serene alive today is 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: flesh eating bacteria day, It's not. Does not have a 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: flesh eating bacteria that I thought we were doing. Yeah, yeah, 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: I'd like to surprise you sometimes, just see how you act. 20 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: We're doing mosquitos actually, scheren mosquitos Yep, yep. Little guys, 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: little friendly guys. 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: Who they're not friendly and they're always little. 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, some of them are absolute chunks. Yeah, I've 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: seen some big dogs recently. Did you know the mosquito 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: serene is the most deadly animal in the world. Really, Yeah, 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: it's an animal. Yeah, I mean it's in the animal kingdom, right, 27 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: I suppose it's insect nuisance. 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: No, it's not insect on animals and nuisance. I guess 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,639 Speaker 2: I couldn't realize it was considered the most deadly animal. 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: Why is that just from like valaria? 31 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and all the other diseases at vectors. Right, it 32 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: can do parasites, bacteria, and viruses, so it's really like 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: a triple threat when you can get like chuck and gun. Yeah, 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: Dane Gay, I've got a whole list of them. 35 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: Why are they still around? 36 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: That is an interesting question, Sharene. 37 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: I've always wondered that like bees have benefits, like they 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: make they're cute little guys, and they make honey, and 39 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: they just want to pollinate around. 40 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: Lots of mosquitoes do too. Lots also, or they don't 41 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: make honey. Lots of species of mosquito just feed of flowers. 42 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: They're not out there to get you. It is just 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: the the lady mosquitoes of certain species. 44 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: What was the lady insects man? The queen bee? Yeah, 45 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 2: it's the black widow. 46 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, it's it's true. Yeah, it's I 47 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: guess maybe they're a matriarchal society, you know, and they're. 48 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I guess technically a spider is not insect, right, it's. 49 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: Like a yeas to correct me on the reddit. Yeah, 50 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: please please post your genus and species stuff on the 51 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: on the reddit. I would love that. So, yeah, mosquitoes, 52 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: they're stacking some bondies, about three quarters of a million 53 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: people a year in fact, which is quite a lot 54 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: of people for you. 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess for culture to the genocide and on 56 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: the spectrum. 57 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Sadly, I don't know, the mosquitoes 58 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: don't have so much agency, so I don't feel like 59 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: they're quite as like evil. You know, the word of 60 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: course a moscow. The moscow is a fly in Spanish. 61 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: And then each I think, of course, like why I 62 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: don't know that. 63 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you might know that, you know, like I don't 64 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: know that. I'm just gonna look this up. Mosquitoes or 65 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 1: origin word? Well, now, mosca is a fly, ito is 66 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: a diminutive ending, so it means like a little fly. Oh, 67 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: little fly, yeah, a fly. 68 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: Lit And there's also a Spanish word that means long legged. 69 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: Hold on from mosquito. 70 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: The Spanish called the mosquitoes mosquetas, and the Native Hispanic 71 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: Americans call them zenkudos. Mosquito is Spanish or Portuguese and 72 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: it means a little fly, while zen kudos is a 73 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: Spanish word that means long legged. 74 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: Ah. Okay, there we go and learning the etymology today 75 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: here and then I didn't have that. I just had 76 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: a little fly based on it being a little fly 77 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: in Spanish. 78 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: That's kind of cute. 79 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that long legged. Well, we have daddy 80 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: long legs, I guess, but he's a mosquito. Yeah. So 81 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: technically mosquitoes are actually micro predators, which is kind of 82 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: a fun word. I feel like I've met some micro 83 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: predators in my time, but they were not mosquitoes, and 84 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: that is because some of them thrive by drinking human blood. 85 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: Tell me about it. Yeah, that is the reason, sharing 86 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: that you have encountered mosquito. So I want to I 87 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: want to talk first about their life cycle and then 88 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: about their their predation on Charine so mosquito say the 89 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: eggs in stagnant water, that that's water that's not moving. 90 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 3: Right, I know somethings, Jane, Okay, okay, not everyone knows 91 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: about stagnant water, Charine. There are listeners too. 92 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: They might not know. So their eggs hatched into lava, 93 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: and the lava become pupa. These stages are all aquatic, right, 94 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: They all happen in the stagnant water, right, and then 95 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: the adult mosquito hatches from the pupa and it hatches 96 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: on the surface and then it flies off and it 97 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: sucks up your evening. 98 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: I don't realized that you had anything to do with water. 99 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why, Like did this not happen in La 100 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: a few years ago? They this council was like sending 101 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 1: people around San Diego to like scope out your garden 102 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: to see if you had standing water. Right, if that 103 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: did happen, I have no memory during peak. Yeah, let's see, 104 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: maybe that's why it was peaked, like zeko panic. 105 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: Oh that makes sense that that would happen. 106 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it does. And we definitely get them, like 107 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: I have to put a little over side like a 108 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: thing that kills the eggs into my chicken water. If 109 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: I'm having a big standing thing of chicken water, yeah, 110 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: I try and have smaller and refresh it more frequently now. 111 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, you definitely have to be careful of stagnant water. 112 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: And as we'll see, like one of the main ways 113 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: to control them is like limiting the amount of stagnant 114 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: water for some species only the females that a species 115 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: are the bloodsuckers, and in some cases they don't need 116 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: the blood, and in other cases to lay their eggs 117 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: they need to have a blood meal as it's called 118 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: h which is a nice words unsettling. Okay, Yeah, So 119 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: the mosquitoes that are vectors for human diseases, so they're 120 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: like the transportation vector vehicle for the disease between one 121 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: person and another, those are the guys who often need 122 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: a little blood meal to day the eggs. They don't 123 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: only attack people, actually, they sort of have a preferred species, 124 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: but in a pinch, they'll go after anything with blood. 125 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: And I've seen them get really thick on cattle and 126 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: stuff in the summer, or horses. 127 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can imagine that. Yeah, because cow's just sit there. 128 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: I mean, if they're being mosquito attack, they get pissed off. 129 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: But there's only so much they can do. In some cases, 130 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: I think it's horses. Equinumcephalitis is spread by mosquitos, so 131 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: they can actually get it. They can get diseases from 132 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: two terrible little guys, and they can like literally die 133 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: from being overbitten. And if they get like completely swarmed 134 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: on wow, yeah, that's like if they're unable to get 135 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: away from them. Because if you have a water tank, right, 136 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: and then mosquitos are breeding in the tank, it's where 137 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: you want to keep that tank moving like right. 138 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: So it's not stagnant water, because stagnant water means it's 139 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: not moving. 140 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: There, you go look at that actually and putting knowledge 141 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: into it. I let that be like one of those 142 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: Guo Linga things where you learn a word then use 143 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: it in a sentence exactly. Yeah. All I do is 144 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: use that word. Yeah. Yeah, So yeah, musket has come 145 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: out adorn or dusk, which is to say they are crepuscular, 146 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: another word that everyone already knows. 147 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: I mean I did learn that word. I did like 148 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: an audiobook and I had to look this word up, 149 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: and so I know what it means only because of that. 150 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: But it's a very interesting word. I will say it 151 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: isn't it sounds like creepy, Like I would have no 152 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: idea what it meant if I didn't look it up, 153 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: Like there's nothing that clues me in. 154 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, crepusculate. It sounds like, yeah, of gress because like 155 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: diurnal nocturnal you can kind of if you know one, 156 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: you can work out. But crepuscular, it is coming out 157 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: of fucking left field. 158 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: That's crepust Does that mean which remind me? It means 159 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: that they're active don and desk or that they're eating it. 160 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: I think it means they Yeah, they are. I'm not 161 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: actually sure if it means it active or they're eating. 162 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: That's a good question. 163 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: Because I feel like I've heard cats are also described 164 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: as that. 165 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, cats are definitely that way animal appearing active in 166 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: Twilight active. 167 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: Wow, that's very poetic. The first animal I see here 168 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: as a cat, Yeah, lion, American woodcock, firefly, short eared owl. Cool. 169 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're real, the pantheon and animals. So they do 170 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: the feeding at doorn a desk and they actually use 171 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: compounds in your exhale breath to sniff you out. So 172 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: they are they are hunting for people. They specifically prefer 173 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: to feed on people who have type O blood, an 174 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: abundance of skin bacteria, high body heat, and pregnant women. 175 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: If you fit one or all of those criteria. I 176 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: guess that because people like definitely, I feel like I 177 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: have type of blood. Yeah too, I feel like I'm victimized, 178 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: like more than most people by the mosquito and they 179 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: choose me. Yeah. 180 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 2: I feel like me and my mom are both TYPEO 181 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: and we get you know, live, So that makes sense. 182 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, they somehow they can smell that on you. 183 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: I'm always cold, though, so I don't think I have 184 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 2: high bars heat. Not always cold, but I can. I 185 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: don't know I have beat circulation, not pregnant. I guess 186 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: I must have an abundance of skin bag. 187 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be a skin bacteriasuring by process of deduction. 188 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: No, but TYPEO makes sense. I think like that is enough. 189 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: I suppose. Yeah, they because when it's a lot of them, 190 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: you know, and when one of them starts feeding on you, 191 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: that's going to trigger more of them to come feeding 192 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: on you. 193 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: How because they're like, look at this, this idiot, let's 194 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: go feed off. 195 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, look at this. It is delicious blood that 196 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: is typo. Yeah, got it, Yeah, yum yum. And then 197 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: they're giving off their little feeding sort of vibes and 198 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: then the other mosquitoes come, which can be useful to 199 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: trap them. But it's a fair point. The trapping of 200 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: mosquitos's I learned when I was doing this. Very fucking interesting. 201 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: Actually, ooh, okay, tell me more. Actually maybe not now, 202 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: but whenever you get to it. 203 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well we'll get to a tune. They have a 204 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: very interesting set of mouth parts and including the labium, 205 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: which is like a gutter shaped cueube mouth tube okay, 206 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: I guess, And it's super sharp and they can use 207 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: it to saw through your skin painlessly, so you never 208 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: that's what you don't feel. 209 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 2: So that's the that's the needle looking thing. Yeah, it's 210 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 2: like the little thing they poke you with. 211 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: And then well they do that, then they have little 212 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: needle looking things that kind of that it contained within 213 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: the gutter shape that they use to suck out your blood. Gross. 214 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: They're saliva stops your blood from clotting, and it prevents 215 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: vascular constriction in the area where they're biting, so they 216 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: can get a little bit extra blood before it clots. 217 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: I guess. Some people can become desensitized to their bites 218 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: over time if you're getting bit and all the time, 219 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: others can become more sensitive and then increased sensitivity is 220 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: known as Skeeter syndrome. 221 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 2: Skeeter syndrome what it looks like because I'm very sensitive 222 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: to them. 223 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: Okay, maybe we've got two diagnoses in one episode. We've 224 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: got skin bacteria and Skeeter syndrome. 225 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: I don't know what I need to have to have 226 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: Skeeter syndrome, but I will say I'm extreme insensitive to 227 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: mosquito bites. When I get bit in they become gigantic. 228 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: I won't even will now I'll wote itch them because 229 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: I know not to at this point. But I'll get 230 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: these like gigantic welts essentially, and they're bright pink, and 231 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: then over the course of like a week or something, 232 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: and they become bright red and they look like someone 233 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 2: put paint on my leg. It's like it's a crazy 234 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: color of red. And then when they eventually do stop itching, 235 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: I'll have that welt there in that red mark for. 236 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: Like months, damn months. It's like it becomes like this 237 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: weird scar. Yeah, you could be a squito syndrome, I guess, 238 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, I will say when I. 239 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: Was a kid in Syria, when we would go visit there, 240 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: they have so many mosquitoes. I got in alive because 241 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: we would go there in the summer too. But there 242 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 2: was one time I got bit in on my eyelid 243 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: like this, that sucks, and so I genuinely couldn't open 244 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: my eye for like a week and a half. That 245 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: was the worst one. 246 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: I think I'm like that with beastings, like they they 247 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: swell up like crazy, Like I don't think I'm like anaphylactic. 248 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: But a couple of times time I was racing in 249 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: Laguna Seca, which is like a car racing track in Monterey, 250 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: and I'm racing along and I guess I'm riding along 251 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: with my mouth open. It's just just like you know, thriving, 252 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: and a mosquito flew in and bit me. I do 253 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: a mosquito a bee, and my whole face just was 254 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: like in your mouth. Yeah, it was crazy, it was bad. Ship. Yeah, 255 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: it was fucked. One had just stung me before, like 256 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: the extent which I swell like when be staying me. 257 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: I got stung in the leg on a training ride 258 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: and I had to upgrade to like EXL shorts because 259 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: like my thigh just become like yeah, and then one 260 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: got me in the mouth. It was a bad day. 261 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: I had an EpiPen, I had I think I had 262 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: some ivy bed drill at some point. Oh yeah, it 263 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: was fucking well. 264 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm glad you're not in a phylactic, but 265 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: it's pretty close. 266 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, yeah, it's better you can get one 267 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: time I got. I got stung in a face when 268 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: I was to go to lecture as well, and like 269 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: walked in with like elephant man face and my stream. Wow, 270 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: we're just like dude, it's like. 271 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: Those photos or videos you see of like animals like 272 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: a dog at a to b and their faces like gigantic. 273 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah it is, Uh it's two dogs. Do you 274 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: love to eat peas? 275 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: I will say, I don't know if you've ever done 276 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: twenty three and Me, but I did it years and 277 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: years ago for another show I was on and on 278 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: twenty three and Me. You can select if you want, 279 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: like health traits as well as like ancestral traits or whatever, 280 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: like yeah, and on that it said I am more 281 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 2: likely to get a bitten by mosquitoes. 282 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: They gay. Maybe it just need your blood. 283 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: Type, but I didn't give them my blood given my spit. 284 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that's crazy. Maybe that's 285 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: something in it has no blood type. I don't know. 286 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. We've just discovered that shream is on 287 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: a eugenics podcast. 288 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 2: No, it was for my podcast that was about this 289 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: is tea Ankay. 290 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, some real problematic folks do love twenty three and me. 291 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: It's very funny when the white nationalists got one twenty 292 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: three and me and find out how they get upset. 293 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, I love that and it's always fun to see. 294 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: So the real problem with mosquitos is not just that 295 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: they make you a trip, but they're vectors for disease 296 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: and they infect seven hundred million people a year with 297 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: their little bitey mouths. They can spread all kinds of diseases, 298 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: including viruses, parasites, and bacteria. Some of their greatest hits 299 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: include yellow fever, Dangay malaria, Tuderimia, zeka, chicken gunya, and 300 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: West Nile virus. Speaking from experience, some of those are 301 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: really shit, and you are best avoiding all of those. 302 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: That's going to be my advice. To you as a 303 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: doctor in one European history, it really fucking sucks to 304 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: get some of these. I've had some diseases from some mosquitoes, 305 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: and I would not recommend The mosquitoes don't actually get 306 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: sick themselves. And it's like it's immune system can destroy 307 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: the virus, but if it bites someone else and then 308 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: bites you before it's immune system destroys the virus' genetic code, 309 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: you can get sick and at some parasites. Apparently malaria 310 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: can make mosquitoes more apt to go biting. Interesting, it 311 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: kind of turns them into zombie brain mosquitos. It's how 312 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: I like to think about it. With malaria, which is 313 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: kind of the main mosquito vector disease. I guess that 314 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: we think about the parasite replicates in the liver cells 315 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: and then moves about by the bloodstream. If you get 316 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: bitten again, the blood could then pass that malaria to 317 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: the next victim of the mosquito. I'm going on a 318 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: trip soon for work. I'll probably be on it when 319 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: you will hear this. And like, because people are traveling more, 320 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: all these different diseases are becoming more common. Right They're 321 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: endemic in one area, and then people come from that 322 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: area to another area, and then mosquitos are hopping around 323 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: when they're in a new area that they're now spreading 324 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: in that area. So we've talked to some folks like 325 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: on the areas where migrants travel north, all the types 326 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: of malaria are now currently present, which is great because 327 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: you've got people from all over the world, right, and 328 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: then the mosquitos are hopping from someone from China to 329 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: someone who's come from Mauritania and spreading their little mosquito 330 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: vector diseases around. So that is bad treating. Do you 331 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: know what else is bad? 332 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: I'm sorry my mind was so blank, But ads are 333 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: not good. No, they're not bad. 334 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: Ads are great. As are so good that we love them. 335 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: Oh yay ads. 336 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: Okay, we're back, and I want to talk about how 337 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: we stop the mosquito nennis. Please help. So I'm going 338 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: to talk about eliminating them, and then I'm going to 339 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: talk about some products and services actually that you can 340 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: avail yourself off. I'd been thinking about this a lot 341 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: recently for work reasons, right, Yeah, doing some jungle travel 342 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: in the next few months. So how do we prevent 343 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: them from biting us? First of all, we can stop 344 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: them having little useful pools of stagnant water to replicate 345 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: in right, Like this means like if you're like me, 346 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: one of my friends referred to my my garden as 347 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: a quote Alaska yard, which it's a way of saying 348 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: that it's a mess and there are lots of like 349 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: car parts and like little little things that I am 350 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: fixing soon, you know, And I guess having an Alaska 351 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: yard is bad for the mosquitos, like especially things like tires, 352 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: right Like, you know, if you have a big car tire, 353 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: water pools in there, and they can have a little 354 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: breed in there, same as buckets in marshy areas. What 355 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: people do is they dig ditches that allows water to 356 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: move so that water doesn't sit completely still. And then 357 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: introducing certain fish it can also help certain fish will eat, 358 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: including the mosquito. Fish will eat the LoVa of the mosquito. 359 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: Tilapia also do this so like you can have a 360 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: nice little if you're a person who eats fish, a 361 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: nice still situation where you're reducing the disease burden. And 362 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: also like providing a food source, which is something they're 363 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: working on. You can drain swamps. Of course, Donald Trump 364 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: famously has drained the swamp right, yeah, I hear no 365 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: malaria do you see anymore because of Donald Trump? But 366 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: doing so obviously destroys an important habitat. Certainly you don't 367 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: want to just be draining swamps. I was reading about 368 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: something in Florida they do called rotational impound management, where 369 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: they kind of allow water levels to fluctuate, and then 370 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: they have these clever little gates that mean that that 371 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: other species like the fish and the crustaceans can move about, 372 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: but they're keeping them water moving. To stop the little 373 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: mosquito eggs. For me, the other way to do it 374 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: is to try and kill them, right, So there are 375 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: various ways of doing that. One of them is to 376 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: create an environment where they would want to lay their eggs, 377 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: but then have that environment kill their eggs. So there 378 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: are various at home ways of doing this. So like 379 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: you could make a stagnant water thing and then blitz 380 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: up the eggs or filter them out, or you can 381 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: put things oversides in there which to kill the eggs. 382 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 1: Some of them also kill the mosquitos when they come 383 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: and lay their eggs. You can also use their little 384 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: hunting senses against them, right, So you can create an 385 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: environment that attracts them either by seeming like a person 386 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: or by seeming like a good place for them to breed. 387 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: And then you can filter out the eggs from where 388 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: they lay them, right, you can kill them when they 389 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: come on in. There are things called lava sides. Maybe 390 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: that's what I'm using with my chicken thing actually that 391 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: destroy the lava. There are little bricks that you dissolve 392 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: in your water, and there are some pretty low risk 393 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: insecticides that you can use. And there are also high 394 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: risk in sexicides, or at least underpopular intexticides. And this 395 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: is where a friend of the Cauzone media network DDT 396 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: comes in. Are you familiar with DDT treed? No, there 397 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: are friends, Yeah, there are friends. We love DDT Big 398 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: Appetise on pod. We love them because until about sixty 399 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: years ago, the US government fucking loved DDT. Right. It's 400 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: an insecticide. They would put it in walls, in mattresses, 401 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: People rubbed their pets with it. For a while, people 402 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: thought they treated polio. They would even go through towns 403 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: spraying down whole neighborhoods with DDT right, and people kind 404 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: of became aware the DDT actually isn't a great idea, 405 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: both pre ecological and health reasons, about sixty years ago 406 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: when Rachel Carson published a book called Silent Spring. It's 407 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: kind of one of the foundational texts of the environmental movement. 408 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: And I think people are asked in credit like Rachel 409 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: Carson with being the only person that that's not necessarily true. 410 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: Like you can look at migrant farm workers actually and 411 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: see that they have been for a long time being Like, 412 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: I don't think it's great that you're dosing us with 413 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: this pesticide all the time. Like, maybe stop spraying us 414 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,239 Speaker 1: with the DDT, you stop playing the places. I want 415 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: to quote a really good piece there in the New 416 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: Republic on DDT. We now know that DDT causes tumors 417 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: in mice and rats. It thins birds eggs to the 418 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: point that mothers indivertently crush their gestating offspring. It may 419 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: disrupt bird sense of orientation, sending them out to seed 420 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: to die. It fundamentally alters the reproductive ordin and so 421 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: array of critters. It can poison animals even decades after 422 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: spraying has ended. Further, a growing body of evidence has 423 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: linked DT to numerous forms of cancer in humans, especially 424 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: breast cancer. Studies have shown how the levels of DDT 425 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: in our bodies track inequalities in human society. For instance, 426 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: there are higher DDT levels in black people than in whites, 427 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: and higher levels in poor people than in rich ones. 428 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: Sounds like you reliant to me when you said that 429 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: there are friends. 430 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like within the cool zone media network 431 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: of making podcasts about evil shit. DDT I think fits perfect. 432 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: That's terrible, Yeah, it's terrible. There's recently like a resurgence 433 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: in I guess, like people standing DDT again and questioning 434 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: some of it, like research around it. But we know 435 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: for sure that it's ecologically damaging, and what we don't 436 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: know is the consequences of wiping out a bunch of 437 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: species in the ecosystem, so we probably don't want to 438 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: use DDT. One thing we can do to kill them 439 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: is introduce predators, which is kind of cool. Tilap Year 440 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: is one predator. Dragonflies or another. I love a dragonfly, 441 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: big interesting flies, so Bekina fasso. They're working on a 442 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: fungus with a mosquito specific neurotoxin, which is kind of cool. 443 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: It can just grow and kill the mosquitos. The World 444 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: Mosquito programs also trialing a bacteria that when mosquitos carry it, 445 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: it amps up their immune system, so like they kill 446 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: the virus or the parasite or whatever it is right 447 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: more quickly, so then they're less lightly to be vectors. 448 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: There's also programs which introduce male mosquitos which are not 449 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: able to have kids, either they're sterile or they're breeding 450 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: results in eggs that won't hatch, So that's kind of 451 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: interesting to control the population that way. And they also 452 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: have these really interesting genetically modified mosquitos that need antibiotic 453 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: tetracycline to grow, So they raise a batch in the 454 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: lab and give them the tetracycline that they need, right, 455 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: and then they let them out to breed, and then 456 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: when they breed, because they're young, don't have tetracycline, they 457 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: don't grow and they don't make it. It's really interesting 458 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: to think about. Like some folks are advocating for completely 459 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: eradicating them, just wiping them off the face of the planet, 460 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: which would seem to have many benefits, right with all 461 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: these diseases that they vector. I'm one of those people. Yeah, 462 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: you're a mosquito. Genocider. I found its interesting pieces that 463 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 1: they're like a forest's defense fromanism against humans. Like if 464 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: we look at that, like the ecosystem's. 465 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: Way of being like get out of here, yeah. 466 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: Like leaves this place alone. Yeah, which is interesting, But 467 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: like I know, it's hard because the people who mostly 468 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: die from mosquito vector diseases and the people with the 469 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: least access to resources, right right, yeah, even things like 470 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, when you're very sick with some of these things, 471 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: you need to be you know, kept hydrated and kept 472 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: cool as your temperature gets up and stuff, and you 473 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: don't have AC and you maybe you can't get an 474 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: IV or whatever, like a very preventable death could occur, right, 475 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: and so right, it's hard, real hard for me sitting 476 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: in America to be like, no, we shouldn't. But I 477 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: guess I understand that argument. But if we go about 478 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: it by fucking dousing whole areas and DDT again, then 479 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: that's not great either. Right, that can have it. That 480 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: can then can have its downside. Anyone else has its downside. 481 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: Shrewm What it's having to pivot to add every ten 482 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes in this job that we do. So 483 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: we're going to do it. Now we're back. We are 484 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: entering the final trimester of our podcast and yeah, if 485 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: you like that, I like to I'd like to think 486 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: of them as trimesters, the last slice of this little 487 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: podcast cake for you guys. Yeah, So I wanted to 488 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: present some little strategies I like to use please when 489 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: I am going to places where I am worried about 490 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: being eaten alive by the little flies. 491 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: Wait, okay, you see all these like DIY, like this 492 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: is how track mosquito somewhere else, But like none of 493 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: those have been mentioned, So is. 494 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: That all bullshit? What do they taught me through? 495 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 2: I don't know, I have to look it up, but 496 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: I feel like I've seen like little things where it's 497 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: like put this bucket of water here, or like put 498 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: like lemon or honey or like something to attract like 499 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: general insects and then mosquitos or like even like light 500 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: can attract mosquitos. You put like a light somewhere. But 501 00:24:58,840 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 2: this sounds all like. 502 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can do that. You can even use a fan, right, 503 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: because I know, honestly, very good flyers like they you 504 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: can just kind of blow them away from you. So yeah, 505 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 1: in terms of like small scale mosquito prevention. Yeah, I'm 506 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: going to get into some of those. Okay, cool. The 507 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 1: most useful thing for me is mosquito in its actually, 508 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: so like in the jungle, I like to sleep in 509 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: a hammock. This one called the Jungle Nest, the Eagles 510 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: Nest Outfitters make that has like a built in mosquito 511 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: in it. That's nice. Yeah, it's really nice. Like I like, 512 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: so I don't have to fuck around with like draping 513 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: it and worry about like the little gaps, right. Yeah, 514 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: And I use that a lot. I use a whole 515 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: little system that they make, and it's it's really nice. 516 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: If I'm in hotels, seat a Summit makes a sleeping 517 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: bag liner A I like to take seeking bagline up 518 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: when I'm going places like I I got fucking fleas 519 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: from a hotel bed in Rwanda. Oh no, yeah it 520 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: was bad, like if you think mosquito had to try 521 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: it having And for people who haven't seen me, I'm 522 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: a hairy person, like have long hair and had a beard, 523 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: and fleas were just upon me and it was bad. 524 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: So I like to take a little sleeping bag liner 525 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: now that's treated with a mosquito repellant, but it must 526 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: be safe for skin and stuff though, right, yeah, yeah, 527 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: it's embedded in the fabric called permethrine. We'll talk about 528 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: it in a second. Literally, the last thing I use 529 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: is a head bugnet. I'm a massive advocate for the 530 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: head bugnet. I know you look like a complete lemon, 531 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: but like, it's just I don't like to be bitten 532 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: in the face. 533 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: No, I have been been in the face, so yeah, 534 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: it's not fun. 535 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, take it from Charine bite sur either. If you 536 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: have a brimmed hat, it's much nicer because it sort 537 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: of hangs in front of your face then. But I 538 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: wear with these all the time. If you like to 539 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: see wildlife, it's nice too because it's kind of camouflaging, 540 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: like it takes the glare off your face. You get 541 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: really bad insects up in Scotland, like when I've been 542 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: out there in the summer time at Form one, and 543 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: I wear a lot. In California, there are some places 544 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: like to hike where we have year round water here, 545 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: but it's definitely pretty gross by like the end of 546 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: the summer, you know, like it's been sitting for a while. 547 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: But water is a bit constraint on your on your 548 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: hiking out here, right, so you kind of need it. 549 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: So I'll go down there and filter my water. But 550 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: I wear my little bug face net and it works great. 551 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: I love it. So after that you can also do repellance. 552 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: These come in two forms, so it's the one that 553 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: you put on your clothes and the ones that you 554 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: put on your body. Right. The one that you put 555 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: on your clothes is called permethrine. The thing with permethrin 556 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 1: is that it's a neurotoxin for cats, which is very 557 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: bad for cats. So Soya makes a little spray bottle 558 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: of it and you can spray it on your own 559 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: clothes and treat them, right, But if you have cats 560 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: you have you must do this outside, like you can't 561 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: do it in your house with your cats. It's safe 562 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: once it's dry, so that you can spray them, let 563 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: them be on your washing line or what have you, 564 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: and then when it's dry you can you can bring 565 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: them aside and then it's safe, honestly, Like you can 566 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: also send them off to a company I think it's 567 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: called insect Shield and they'll spray them for you. In 568 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: the way they do it somehow bonds it for much longer, 569 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: like normally at lasts for about six washes, but with 570 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: and you can get like ten times as many washes. 571 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: And you can also buy shit like I've just got 572 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: a hoodie from a company called first Light, who make 573 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: like fancy hunting stuff that has the insect stuff built in. Yeah. 574 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: I like that because then if you have a hoodie 575 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: as well, you can put you know, you get like 576 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: a lot of coverage. 577 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: But like, if a cat likes sat on this clothing. 578 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: It's fine now because it's bonded. Yeah, your cat could 579 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: like go curl up in it and then have a 580 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: sleep and things. So even if it gets wet, that's okay. 581 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: It's when the permethro in itself is wet the first application, 582 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: that's when it's risky. Okay, I see, I see. If 583 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: you're going to do that, you want to do your 584 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: socks as well, because they fucking love to bite around 585 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: the ankles. Yep, my legs are their their prime target. Yeah, 586 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: that's their their favorite area to bite here. I don't 587 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: know why. 588 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: I mean, they're probably easier to access and you're less 589 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 2: likely to see them, I suppose. Like, and also I 590 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: feel like if you're sitting, you're moving, probably your upper 591 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: body more than your lower body. 592 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: So it's like I don't know. Yeah, it's still like 593 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: and sneak in there. Lasted. So things to like repel them. 594 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: One of them is have you seen the thermo cells? 595 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: Are you familiar with them? It's a brand called Off 596 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: that makes them too. It emits something called metha flutherin, 597 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: and methad lutheran is like a non toxic I was 598 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: looking at the EPA guidelines for this. It's mostly non toxic. 599 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: It should be fine in your house, but it is 600 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: toxic to aquatic invertebrates, fish and bees because with all 601 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: these things, like I don't want to just be spraying 602 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: and insecticide into the world, right yeah, and damaging like 603 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: innocent non micro predators. So what the thermo cell does is, 604 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: you know when people have those little things in their 605 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: houses where they put an essential oil in and it 606 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: puffs and the picture house not nice. Yeah, it's like that. 607 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: It's like that, okay, and it does that. But with 608 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: this methaplutherin and they work okay, Like if you're in 609 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: your tent stuff, they work like they don't work if 610 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: it's windy, they don't really work. They can be nice 611 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: like if you set them up and let them get 612 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: going for a while and then come into a space, 613 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: they can be really nice. You have other things like 614 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: a fan. You can have the electric traps, right, which 615 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: kind of bring even electrocute them. 616 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: How do those electric traps attract them? Just the light 617 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: or like. 618 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: What I think it's a UV light because yeah, it 619 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: has that really bright I actually don't know that. I 620 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: think that electrocutes them, like when they land on it, right, Yeah, 621 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: I think it's the light. Yeah. Those seem to be 622 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: like a more multi purpose insect zappa though, right, So 623 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: I've not preferred those. I don't want to be killing 624 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: everything else, like just try and you know, leave no trace. 625 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: And then the last thing is for some reason, I've 626 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 1: become obsessed with this recently, the different creams you can 627 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: put on yourself to stop mosquitoes going away. Ideally you 628 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: can kind of layer up all the things right to 629 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: limit you know, like the amount of just chemicals you 630 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: have to rub on your skin. Deep is the most 631 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: popular one. People are pretaty familiar with Deep. It was 632 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: developed by the US Army in the forties. The big 633 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: thing with deep is it's really hard on plastics, so 634 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm not a contact lens or glass wearer. I don't 635 00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: know a contact lens is made of glass or plastic. Okay, yeah, 636 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: I have worn both, and I have no idea. I'm 637 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: gonna say like that with that perfect vision, I have 638 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: one either. So I don't know. 639 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it's crazy. Who was made 640 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: out of glass or plastic? 641 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: Right? What are contact lenses? Welcome to the portion of podcasts. 642 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: We're sure he googles the thing. 643 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: I guess there are types of plastic, but not the 644 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: kind of plastic that comes to mind when you hear 645 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: the word high tech polymers that allow oxygen to flow 646 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: through to reach the cornea body body blow. 647 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: So I guess, yeah, sure, yeah, be careful with your deep. 648 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 2: Actually, there's a question that says our contacts glass or plastic. 649 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 2: So I guess I'm a dummy because that's a legitimate question. No, 650 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: it's a good question that just like sounds crazy to me. Anyway, 651 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if the deep can get to them. 652 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: It can definitely, Oh yeah, it does contact lenses. 653 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: There we go. It can damage your contact lenses. It 654 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: definitely will mess with your rain gear, your tent, your sunglasses, 655 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: especially in higher concentrations. So like deep you can get 656 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: ten percent deep, you can get one hundred percent deep. 657 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: You get maximum protection at thirty percent deep. So after 658 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: that it's just you're buying yourself more time between applications. Also, 659 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 1: it gets more concentrated your risking damaging your gear. And like, 660 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: I don't like the way it makes my mouth feel, 661 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: like with the spray. If you spray it, you get 662 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: this like metallic dry mouth. It seems like you're killing 663 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: yourself when you walk into a cloud of deep. Okay, cool, 664 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: cool cool. I like pickcard in. It's a synthetic version 665 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: of an element that's found in pepper plants. Yeah, that's 666 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: what I usually use on I go camp. Yeah, their 667 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: little Sawyer makes a really nice picard and actually it's 668 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: got like a blue label on the bottle. 669 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah that's the what I use. 670 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Soyer. Yeah, we like Sawyer. I got to try. 671 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: The reason I've I've suggested so many Soy products is 672 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: because the Sawyer Foundation. We're there in the Marshall Islands 673 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: when I was there. 674 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 2: Oh nice, I mean I like their shit. 675 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah I do. I think they're a really cool company. Actually, 676 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: they seem to make stuff that like solves problems and 677 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: then just like keep making it. They don't make a 678 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: new thing every year, different color and trying to rehype it, 679 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: you know. Like they did really cool shap in the 680 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: marsh Lands. It's cool to see and like, Yeah, as 681 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: companies go, I think they're pretty right on. They also 682 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: gave us some water filters to help with the migrants 683 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: the other day, which is very nice of them. We 684 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: needed some water filters for folks crossing the border and 685 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: they gave us some. So they are my friends. But yeah, 686 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: their one is good. They make a nice sun cream 687 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: mostly as well, so you can you can double dip there. 688 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's not up to the standards of your 689 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: your imported sun creams, but. 690 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: That means sunscreen British translation. 691 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can't make the logical leap from suncream 692 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: to sunscreen, yeah that is that is what I'm talking about. 693 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: In the British air defense though it is definitely a 694 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 2: cream and not a screen, so yeah, that's on us. 695 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, another incidence of British excellence. Oh my god, to 696 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: be fair, one of the few. What have we got 697 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: We've got that we have the Baking show and that's 698 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: about it. Ye can't think of much else. So there 699 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: are also like natural ones, you know, like citronella is 700 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: the one that people like. But I have just found 701 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: that those don't work very well. 702 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: I feel like it's a hit or miss. Yeah, I 703 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 2: was gonna say, I feel like it's like kind of 704 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 2: for fun. 705 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you'll feel great that you've done something. Yeah. 706 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: I think they just work by being strong smells that 707 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: kind of mask your other smells. M And you can 708 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,439 Speaker 1: get synthetic and natural plant oils. And there are people 709 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: who will sell you bracelets with like a little thing 710 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: that's supposed to secrete the citronella. 711 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: Oh, I use I've used those. The ones I have 712 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 2: used look like like phone cords that are all spirally. Yeah, 713 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: but they little bracelets and I have ifill my ankles, 714 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 2: put them on my wrists. Sometimes they work and sometimes 715 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: I look like a dummy. But I don't know, so 716 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: it was I've tried everything. 717 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Sometimes I just burnt incense and that kind of works. Again, 718 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: I think just kind of it's a strong smell and 719 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: the mosquitoes don't like it. Okay, that makes sense having 720 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: incense and a box fan. It's not a bad solution, 721 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: like I've done that in places where you know, nothing 722 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: else was available, and that's pretty good. But yeah, if 723 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: you're in a place where they see the problem and 724 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: it's coming a bigger problem. Right, the world is getting hotter, 725 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: the climate is changing. These swampy marsh areas are drying up, 726 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: so we're getting more stagnant water and less through flow. 727 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 1: Like this becoming a bigger problem, and our healthcare system 728 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: is continuing to be fucked and getting worse, certainly in 729 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: the United States, but so United Kingdom and other places. 730 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: So yeah, be careful of the mosquitoes. Remember to do 731 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: your sun cream before your before your mosquito cream or 732 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: lotion or whatever you're using, screen your mosquito screen. That's 733 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: sort of a I got a mosquito scream? You got 734 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: anything to add? 735 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 2: No, I think that's a good little summary about what 736 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 2: to do for mosquitos. I hate mosquito so much, and 737 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 2: I'm one of those people that don't think they should 738 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 2: be around, But since they are, I guess we got 739 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: to deal with them. So yeah, it's nice to know 740 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 2: that I use like a good thing. Like I think 741 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 2: if I use something that you use, I'm like, Wow, 742 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: I did something right. 743 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: Soly true. Your way ahead of me on the air 744 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: this sun cream. 745 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 2: But no, I think it's a it's helpful to know. 746 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 2: I'm sure many people out there are sensors to mosquito 747 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 2: bites and anything will help if they. 748 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, it sucks. 749 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,479 Speaker 2: It's getting so hot and they're everywhere. And now what's 750 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 2: really bothering me is that they're getting smaller and harder 751 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 2: to see. But they're just as annoying. 752 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, the bite still even if there's Yeah, yeah, you've 753 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: got to get a really fine mesh f your mosquito 754 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: nets for that. You can't be using other products. Yeah, 755 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: I don't have a mosquito net. I should go one. Yeah, 756 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: I get a mosquito net. I love a head mosquito net. 757 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 1: It's great. It serves you some. It stops the mosquitoes 758 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 1: biting you, it stops other people talking to you. Wow, 759 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: it's a great. It's great thing to have. Yeah. 760 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 2: I have seen these videos of like someone having a 761 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 2: mosquito it on them and then like the mosquitoes, you 762 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 2: see it poking and not being able to reach. 763 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: It's kind of funny, like mosquito ares very funny. Yeah, yeah, exactly, But. 764 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, cool Yeah, thanks James. 765 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine. It's a podcast brought to you by 766 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 1: me hyper focusing on things, which is what I do, 767 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,479 Speaker 1: is the way I deal with my anxiety about going 768 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: to places which don't necessarily places people go for fun. 769 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 2: Word all right bye, So yeah, it could Happen here 770 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: as a production of cool Zone Media. For more podcasts 771 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 2: from cool Zone Media, visit our website cool zonemedia dot com, 772 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 2: or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 773 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to podcasts. 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