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Speaker 1: We're back for another episode of Big Blue kick Off

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Speaker 1: live right here on Giants dot com. A someone well arrested. Paulatino,

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Speaker 1: John schmoke with you two one four, five one three,

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Speaker 1: hashtag Giants Chat on Twitter. If you want to participate

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Speaker 1: in the show that way, you can as well. Of course,

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Speaker 1: the draft is a few days old. Now you've heard

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Speaker 1: from Paul and I plenty on what we think about

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Speaker 1: the picts, so we're not gonna go into that. The

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Speaker 1: start of the show, well, we will have a guest

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Speaker 1: will be joined by Spencer left, which who was Will

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Speaker 1: Hernandez is offensive line coach at UTEP. He'll join us

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Speaker 1: in just a couple of minutes, uh, Paul. Over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of days, obviously, some information is kind of

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Speaker 1: leaked out from around the league about the draft. We've

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Speaker 1: broken down each Giants pick at nauseum. Um. Any overarching

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Speaker 1: thoughts that have kind of popped into your head since

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Speaker 1: the draft has ended, you know, John, I think that

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Speaker 1: the one thing that I noticed, um is that there

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Speaker 1: were some teams who clearly stayed away from all injury

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Speaker 1: medical file guys, and there were other teams that simply

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Speaker 1: didn't seemed to be affected by that at all and

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Speaker 1: drafted a bunch of guys who had medical files regardless.

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Speaker 1: Great example, Uh, the Jets. Half of their guys had

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Speaker 1: medical issues, but it didn't seem to matter. Um, Cowboys

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Speaker 1: took Vanderish in the first round linebacker, terrific player. Medical

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Speaker 1: questions for some and the funny and that's the deal.

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Speaker 1: You know, for some teams that might be medical question.

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Speaker 1: Other teams they might have cleared the guy completely. So

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Speaker 1: it really depends team to team whether or not they

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Speaker 1: how serious they consider those medical conditions. And that happens

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Speaker 1: every year with certain guys. But I found it interesting

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Speaker 1: and that some teams seemed to flat out, For example,

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Speaker 1: the Giants, as far as I know, none of the

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Speaker 1: guys they took, none of them had any medical none

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Speaker 1: of them, not that I can think of. No, So

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Speaker 1: it's not just how do we create a particular player

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Speaker 1: in some cases where okay, we're not going to take

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Speaker 1: the risk on that, or we think the medicals okay, No,

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Speaker 1: it looks as though by looking at some of these

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Speaker 1: these boards, some teams flat out disqualified medical guys no

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Speaker 1: matter what, it didn't matter anything about the player. We're

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Speaker 1: not taking any players who were medical, and other teams

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Speaker 1: didn't seem to care. Again, the Jets took a bunch

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Speaker 1: of guys who have medical so it wasn't just one guy.

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Speaker 1: For instance, the tight end that they took half of

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Speaker 1: their guys had medical. Now, again, that doesn't mean the

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Speaker 1: Giants were adverse to picking anybody that might have had

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that's probably more of a real pattern

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Speaker 1: than it is just a coincidence. That's my guests, But

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Speaker 1: it's simply an educated guess when you look at a

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Speaker 1: team that's gone through an entire draft and has none

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Speaker 1: none of those questions, just a guess. So that kind

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Speaker 1: of struck me a little bit odd that there were

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Speaker 1: so many teams in both of those camps. The other

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Speaker 1: thing that got revealed on a podcast, I think that

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's Asian to the top of the draft, and

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Speaker 1: he said that they weren't sure if the Browns gonna

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Speaker 1: Take a guess what team it was. And it wasn't

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Speaker 1: The Patriots told him. Well, let's just say this, if

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Speaker 1: were calls that he received, uh, in the days prior

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Speaker 1: to Ti in East Rutherford, New Jersey. How are you today?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great? How are you guys? We're doing great?

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Speaker 1: And we had a chance to talk to Will on

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Speaker 1: any fans were at UTEP. What type of guy are

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Speaker 1: Where have you seen the most progress. Where do you

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Speaker 1: think he still needs to round things out before he

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Speaker 1: are getting what they're getting here, and that couldn't be

431
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: a better thing. Can we say he checks all the boxes?

432
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean, not just as a player, but as being

433
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: I think probably, And obviously when you hear that, obviously

434
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: as former coach is gonna come on and anything bad

435
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: about the kid, we get that. But even in all

436
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: the scattering reports and everything, there isn't much not to like. Look,

437
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: he's not perfect. He might struggle with some fast and

438
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: speed guys and stuff like that. Nobody's a perfect prospect.

439
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: But I think you have to be pretty excited about

440
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: what you're getting through the New York Giants. I think

441
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: the one thing that that Spencer said, and it was

442
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: something that you mentioned, Dave Getleman had mentioned to us originally,

443
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: and then he reiterated it didn't matter. The losing never

444
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: affected him. It never infected him, actually, which is probably

445
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: a better word, right, because that does happen. You know,

446
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: we've but we've all seen it, and and you could

447
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 1: tell the affection that he has for this player. Um

448
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: just all the the whole package of what he did.

449
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: And it's very easy for even the best of players

450
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: to start going downhill when things going to a slide,

451
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: and so, you know, grateful Will Hernandez that he never

452
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: lost the luster and he remained a blue chip prospect

453
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: right up into the draft. I'm curious to see how

454
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Speaker 1: he does in his own scheme, which is a lot

455
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: of what Churmer runs and here mostly a gap in

456
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: power scheme there. I think that will probably be his

457
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: biggest adjudgment adjustment. But look the way thing was interesting

458
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: though too. They dropped about ten. He was three seven

459
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: at the comment he said was played around three right three.

460
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me. That's interesting to me because that

461
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: was one of the knocks in terms of when people said, well,

462
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: he's not going to be a high frost rounder. The

463
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: thing was well with some speed rushers, some movement, he

464
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: was a little bit you know, dancing bear. Wasn't as

465
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 1: quick on his feet, maybe as some people would like

466
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: to have him been. But if he's lost ten fifteen pounds,

467
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: maybe that suddenly is not an issue anymore. Let's do

468
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 1: the calls at you A one, four, five on three. Bob.

469
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: Bob in Parsippany has been holding along, guest, what's up, Bob?

470
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: All right? I thank you for taking my call. We're

471
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: talking about Will Hernandez, I'll just say that I am

472
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: very thrilled that they picked him. But that's not what

473
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: I came on to talk about. I want to talk

474
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: about the number one pick for the Giants and m Barkley.

475
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: He's certainly worth taking at number two, but I believe

476
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: that the Giants will regret not picking a quarterback, because

477
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback is worth more than even even a

478
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: whole of same running back. And John you were on

479
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: you were on the day you had Dan Orlovsky, uh,

480
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, evaluating the quarterbacks and or a Lobsky. He

481
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 1: just raved about Rosen. And then on draft night we

482
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: had Troy Aikman. When Rosen got picked, he says, this

483
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: guy is the best talent, the best passing talent since

484
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. The only thing that kept him from being

485
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: the number one pick in the draft was the concussions.

486
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: I think Rosen should have been a pick, and I

487
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: think we should have taken the risk about the concussions

488
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 1: for that kind of talent. Well, Bob, here's the thing

489
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: and and and here's the beauty of it. You know,

490
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: I you know you you love Rosen. I love Sam Donald,

491
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: and both of us are on the record about that.

492
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: But this is the beauty of this. We're gonna know

493
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: when Eli Manny hangs it up, whenever that happens to

494
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: be in two, three or four years, however much longer

495
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: he plays. We're gonna see how good the Giants are

496
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: with Elia's quarterback in Barkley is the running back. And

497
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: then we're going to see when Eli retires whether or

498
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: not there's a succession plan. And based on those two

499
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: sets of results, we're gonna know if they did the

500
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: right thing, and we're gonna know if they did the

501
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: wrong thing. And we'll obviously see the circumstances along the

502
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: way if if if they're mitigating or anything like that.

503
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: And the Giants have chosen a path um, they're gonna

504
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: try their best to win with Eli Manning. And I

505
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: know he has only a tw years left on his deal,

506
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: but the way Dave Gentleman has spoken about it and

507
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: Pat Charmer, I mean, if he plays really well this year, poll,

508
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 1: would you'd be shocked if you got like a one

509
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: year contract extension or something like that. I wouldn't be,

510
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: so there are even economic reasons why you think that

511
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: would be. And I would be because next year he's

512
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: got um if if if, if if Manning retired or

513
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: they got rid of him, he would they would save

514
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars in in cap money, which could be

515
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: used for landing Collins or beha. Yeah. Yeah, but Bob,

516
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If but if Eli plays well this

517
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: year and they win a lot of games, there's no

518
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: way he's got that cap space is well spent. It's

519
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 1: not wasted cap space, you know what I mean. If

520
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: he plays poorly, you know, it's a completely different conversation.

521
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: But if if he's good, yeah, you pay a quarterback

522
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars. That's the going rate, you know what

523
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean. Yes, I understand, Yeah, I just you know,

524
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: I think we might be getting back to respectability lead

525
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: on and maybe close to five D. I don't see

526
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: playoffs in in our horizon this year. We'll see. Thank you,

527
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: Bub appreciate the call. And again it's guys, this is

528
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: a results oriented business. Paul and I have said since

529
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: the beginning. We know he lies the quarterback this year

530
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: and after this year, it's it's on a year to

531
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: year basis, and we'll see how it goes. If he

532
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: plays really well this year, you know, what he's gonna

533
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: be back. If he plays really poorly, there's a chance

534
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: he's not going to be That's the way the league

535
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: works for every player and every team. It's not just

536
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: he like he gets everybody. And remember Elway, Brady and

537
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning all one super Bowls after they turn thirty seven.

538
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: So let's not disqualify this guy just because he's thirties

539
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: seven years old. That's known as age discrimination. Please it is.

540
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: I've had people argue with me on Twitter he's thirty seven,

541
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: Oh he shot Oh just because he's thirty seven. Come

542
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: to the dance with more evidence and then we'll discuss it.

543
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: Don't just give me his thirty seven. That's not good enough. Yeah,

544
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: but people tend to Historically, people tend to decline as

545
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: they get older. I mean that that's the facts of life. Yeah,

546
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: but not in recent years, because isn't as good now

547
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: as he was two or three years ago. But he's

548
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: still pretty dangerous. He is. Again, it all depends on

549
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: how well he plays. That's no doubt now. Fifteen twenty

550
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: years ago, if you had said it's unlikely that the

551
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: thirty seven year old or plus quarterback could resuscitate a

552
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: team's chances. I would have said to you, okay, probably

553
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: more realistically. It is a little different now now you know,

554
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: this is the year two thousand eighteen when physicality. Man,

555
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,959
Speaker 1: you know where fifty is the new forty and thirties,

556
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: the new twenty and sixties to new forty and everything else.

557
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: Everybody's turning back the clock. So I don't want to

558
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: hear about he's thirty seven, he's shot. That's aged discrimination

559
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to tolerate it. Let's go hey,

560
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm over thirty seven, that's why. Okay, but every general

561
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: had a George Foreman proved. George Foreman proved that there

562
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: was life after forty, but he wasn't as good after forty.

563
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: A heyweight championship in the world, asked Michael Moore, Oh

564
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: my god, all right, let's put it rusted his theory.

565
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna witness. Just to go ahead. How are

566
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: you guys? How are you? How are you good? Um?

567
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: I agree with your last caller, I mean I called

568
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: him last week's saying I wanted Sam Donald that you

569
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: know that conversations kind of passed. Um ye, So I

570
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: kind of moved into the camp of all right, we got,

571
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: you know, the best weapon, you know, arguably the best

572
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: player in the draft. So let's let's let's put it.

573
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: Let's you know, push the ships into the into the

574
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: front of the pot here um And I agree with

575
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: the second round pick, but I'm a little bit perplexed

576
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: with not addressing um the cornerback and secondary position and

577
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: getting you know, Kyle Lolett does not make much sense

578
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: to me. It seems like they're kind of hedging their

579
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: bet a little bit and may not. You know, Trust

580
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: gave his web as much and says, you know, let's

581
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: put more competition into that. But justin Justine was not

582
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: a second. If you're in favor of picking a quarterback

583
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: in the first round, why would Kyle Loletta not make

584
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: sense to you? Obviously it's not the same amount of

585
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: resources put into the put into the problem that you're

586
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: worried about Eli Manning's you know, future replacement. But you

587
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 1: are putting another guy into the mix, which you're right,

588
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: is hedging your bet and you're giving yourself a better

589
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: chance of having this successor. I don't know why why

590
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: you would dislike low Lena in four, but at the

591
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: same time, one a quarterback and round one. That doesn't

592
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: make any sense to me. Well, because I think I

593
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: think once he didn't pick the quarterback in round one

594
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: and trying to, you know, do the line in the

595
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: stands and said, you know, we're gonna go on. And

596
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: and I think that you could have addressed the offensive

597
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: line and you know later in the draft and use

598
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: your resources for this regime right now to help you

599
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: lie right now in these next two years. And you

600
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: see justin here's the thing though, and and and honestly,

601
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: this is what I believe. And I didn't know this

602
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: was the fact before the draft, and I learned the

603
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: ones the draft was over. This is how David Gentleman

604
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: was operating, and I figured it out based on how

605
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: he made his selections. Do not take anything more out

606
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: of any of the Giants selections other than he picked

607
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: the player that he thought was best. There's no other

608
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: explanation as to why you would select two defensive tackles

609
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: when you run a three four and you already have

610
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: Dalvin Thomason and Snax Harrison. He picked the guys that

611
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: he thought were simply the best players. And it makes sense.

612
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: Kylo lett I had a third round grade. That's what

613
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: they said in the post draft press conference. He was

614
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: the best player on their board in that round. That's

615
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: why they took him. That's why they took Barkley. They

616
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: didn't pass on Sam Donald and Josh Rosen because of

617
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: Davis Webb. They passed on those guys because they thought

618
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: Barkley was simply a much better prospect. That's why they

619
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: did it. So I think fans have to be careful.

620
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: And it's not just you. I feard of that people

621
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: do this too, where they're trying to make sweeping generalizations

622
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: about Dave Gentleman's mindset based on who he picked and where. No,

623
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: he only did these things for one reason. He liked

624
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: that player better than the other players that were there,

625
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: regardless of where they played. And I didn't know that's

626
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: how he was gonna operate before the draft, but after

627
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: watching it, I'm pretty damn sure that's how he out

628
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: was clear he went top value on the board in

629
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: each rout and all by the way, Uh, the last

630
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: several years, the Patriots have picked quarterbacks in the middle

631
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: rounds and then they've traded those guys because they were

632
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: able to use them as trade bait guys like like

633
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: Brussette and they were all trade bait for all you know,

634
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: Loletta could be trade bait in two years. So so

635
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: so a quick question the air. But you know this year,

636
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: let's let's say let's say that you know, obviously ely

637
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: Man he's starting quarterback, David's webs on the team, Kylo

638
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: Lett is on the team, Eli Manning, and you're all

639
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: in on this year. And and and you know I

640
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: Manning and this team right now, and the team is

641
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, doing well the first ten games, and Eli

642
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: mann And gets hurt, you're gonna go with either Davis

643
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: Webb or Kyle Aletta as your backup quarterback. Justin. You

644
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: know what, Here's Webb is the guy who's gonna step

645
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: in because he's the one who's being prepped for it.

646
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: If you draft a quarterback in the third round, if

647
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: he's not ready to be your backup quarterback in his

648
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: second year in the league, you made a mistake. You

649
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: can't draft a quarterback on day two and he can't

650
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: not be ready to be your quarterback in his second year.

651
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: If you did that, then you made a mistake. Alright, alright,

652
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: thank you, Justin. And look, he has to be ready

653
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: because I don't you know, I heard I heard Carl

654
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: and Maggie and Bart talking about this on on their

655
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 1: show yesterday briefly, and they're like, Oh, they're gonna trying

656
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: to squeeze of the guys in the practice squad. They

657
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: have to bring in a veteran. Huh, these are the

658
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks. Neither guy is getting through the practice quad. Okay,

659
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: it's not happening. Who gets swooped off in a split second.

660
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: Cause Shermer had mentioned there was a possibility he wants

661
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks on the team and one could end up

662
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. He mentioned that as a possibility

663
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: because he threw that line in there. I think some

664
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: people jumped on it, but it's my opinion. He will

665
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: keep all three on the fifty three and low Letta

666
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: is going to be the guy who's inactive holding the

667
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: clipboard on on Sundays, and he'll get that. He'll be

668
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: the red shirt. He'll be the red shirt like Davis

669
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: Webb was this past season. Correct, Loletta will be the

670
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: red shirt. And then whenever Eli passes the torch to

671
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: Davis Webb, if we'll let us still here, he will

672
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: be the number two it's go big and my and

673
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: my estimation, well they're going to well again. ELI might

674
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: not pass the torch for two more years. And this

675
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: coaching self will of two years to evaluate Webb and

676
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: lolettin make a decision. I don't think their order is

677
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: set in stone. No, I don't. I'm giving you. I'm

678
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: giving you my gut feeling as how it's gonna play exactly.

679
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: But of course they love competition and people want to

680
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: share petition. Coach Marvin and Delaware wants to continue on

681
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks online for What's Up? Coach Marvin, good to

682
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: hear from you. What's up? I good job on last college. Um, well,

683
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: we've got a couple of things here. Um. First thing is, uh, gentlemen,

684
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: and with all the fans, and I understand their passion

685
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: for the game. I mean I deal with parents and

686
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: they priably be worse. Um you know what I mean,

687
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: Uh gether with parents in high school or youth football.

688
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: It's very difficult everybody to get a superstar sign fourth

689
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: or But what I always tell those parents in the

690
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: beginning of my season, and artust I said, starting this season,

691
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: I actually lose no matter what I do this season,

692
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: I lose because I can't satisfy everybody. You know, we're

693
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: gonna call plays and they're gonna be odds and uncles

694
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: and cousins and brothers, and everybody's going to criticize certain plays.

695
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna criticize who's not playing. So you can't satisfy

696
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 1: any for everybody. But do what you think is best

697
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: for the team. And that's what Mr Gentleman is doing. Um.

698
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: As far as the quarterback loud letter, I mean, I

699
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: was like, you, you guys are draft that I saw

700
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: your face when his name came up, because everybody was

701
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: looking for Cosby and I was looking for Cosby and

702
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: to hear this let us name that that made for

703
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: a second, it threw me off, and I kind of

704
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: like wondering about it. Imagine Paul's face is better than mine.

705
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: So I kind of like just a little bit of

706
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: studying on him because I didn't know nothing about him

707
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: other than the Senior Bowl and a lot of professional

708
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: people like him. Some people listening that they thought he

709
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: was a second round that the Patriots could take him

710
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: in a second round, So he must have some quality

711
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: here talking about his accuracy, maybe not a strong arm

712
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: and so I looked it up, looked at him, and

713
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: he did look pretty good. So you never know what

714
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: you've had. Because I saw um Mr Cassidy uh he

715
00:38:54,040 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: was the GM in Texas, UM against Charlie. Charlie loves

716
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: the guy, and um Sean mccuh mat say likes the guys.

717
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: So these are quality people that watches this stuff and

718
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: they like him and they think he could have been

719
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: a second or third round pick. So um, I think

720
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: it might turn out to be Okay, he may he

721
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: could be the guy. Oh, Web could be the guy,

722
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: but I'm not worried about all that. Eli may have

723
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: three years, so let it. Let's see what he has.

724
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: And my last part is I thought Gutman did a

725
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: good job. If you look at those top picks when

726
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: we first started, he had Barkley, chubbed Nelson and the quarterbacks.

727
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: He actually went and did that. He took guys that

728
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: could be similar to these guys he took. He took Carter,

729
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: who can be similar to Chubb. He's not chubbed, but

730
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: he could be similar to him. He took Hernandez, who

731
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: was I picked the second graded guard behind Nelson Um

732
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: and he took quarterback that a lot of people, a

733
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: lot of people like so um, I think he did

734
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: a good job. So I think people just need to

735
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: give it a chance. And there's no right and no's

736
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: no wrong. You just gotta let the season go and

737
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: see what happens. Since too late to compare him to

738
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: anybody said, let's see what Donald doo. He gave up

739
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: a franchise player. He's gone, what are you gonna do?

740
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: That's that's it. He's not playing for the Giants. Just

741
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: go with the people they've got. Thank you, Coach Marvin.

742
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: Appreciate the call boy, and look he I think it's

743
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: important to note that at some point we're gonna have

744
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: to move past the quarterback Barkley discussion and look this

745
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: whole week. Next week we can talk about it now, Bonce,

746
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: we get in the training camp and stuff. I don't

747
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: want to be relitigating who the Giant should have drafted

748
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: a million times. All right, we're not gonna know for

749
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: three or four years what the right decision was. We'll

750
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: figure out as we go. But they made the decision,

751
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: we know what direction they're going in, we know what

752
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: the mindset is, and we'll move forward. Obviously, a couple

753
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: of weeks. We can still react to it, have fun

754
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: with it, but the die has been cast. You can't

755
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: rewind on the VCR like Paul he dots watching his

756
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: game tape and you know, change your change your mind.

757
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: So well, we are where we are right now. It's

758
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: kind of like the parents who have a bunch of

759
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: little kids in the back of the station wagon and

760
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: they're crying about, Oh, we wanted to go to the

761
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: you know, ice cream store before dinner. Well, too late.

762
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: Guess what we're going to have dinner first, you get

763
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: your ice cream later. That's it. Be quiet, it's over.

764
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: Relaxed for the rest of the car ride. Folks. Relax

765
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: for the next five years. You didn't get your quarterback.

766
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: Tough luck done. Relax, but they could call it ever,

767
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: react for the next couple of weeks. That's my point.

768
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: We're still reacting to the draft. That's okay, I'm trying

769
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: to I'm having fun with him. I'm having fun with him. Hey,

770
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Here's the thing. Okay, in all honesty,

771
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: because of what the Giants did, They've told you for

772
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: months how they were going to plot out the near

773
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 1: future for this team. They've told you that for months

774
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: then they drafted these guys, and that tells you reinforce.

775
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: Says everything about what they were trying to do. They're

776
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: trying to do something in this next two year window,

777
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: maybe three year window. And and at the same time

778
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: they went and got an insurance policy for their backup quarterback.

779
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: There's really nothing else to say. That's it. This is

780
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: the plan that's been set in stone. You just gotta

781
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: live with it and and and move forward. That's it.

782
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: Here's what I've learned. Okay, and I'm gonna write something

783
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: on giants dot com to tomorrow about this. Dave Gentleman

784
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: says what he says, what he thinks, and thinks what

785
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: he says, what he gives you, what he believes in,

786
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: and how he's gonna operate. That's what he believes in

787
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: and how he's gonna operate. He didn't give away the

788
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: store as to who the Giants were gonna draft, but

789
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: you know what, if you listen to what he said

790
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: that they were always gonna pick the guy that gave

791
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: you the most value, and he was gonna emphasize running

792
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: the ball, stopping the run, and getting to the court

793
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame caliber player. You knew who the

794
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: Giants are gonna pick. It was hard to figure it out.

795
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't hard. The trick is most GM's Latia and

796
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: they'll be sa and they'll tell you one thing to

797
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: do something else. Based on this year, Dave Gentleman, straight

798
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: shoot up, let's go if he should be a pisson.

799
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman should be Italian because he comes right at you.

800
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: He lets you know, right to your face exactly what

801
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: he's thinking. Straight shoot up. Let's go to Mitch next. Hey, Mitch,

802
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: you're on. What's up? I've just been saying, I mean,

803
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: keeping up with you guys basically since the ben of

804
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: the year. You guys are doing a great job being

805
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: up to the draft. Than appreciate it. All the calls

806
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: and everybody's going on. And I saw a draft like

807
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: Alines the same. I feel like the players we got,

808
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: we got, um, you know, let's drive the boat, let's

809
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: try to go for his chainship. And I feel like, um,

810
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: it's actually what say, quantity gives the lie extra two

811
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: because this type of player he is. Basically it's finished

812
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: Elie Man's career. And I feel like the upcoming season,

813
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: I feel like we do got some holes as far

814
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: as with the ex receiver, as far who's gonna be

815
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: our strong block and receiver, I feel like we should

816
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: set that add and there's some like I know, Eric

817
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: Eric Derker is still out there, Eric Desks out there.

818
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: I know there's the whole thing with des Bryant. It's

819
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: a big no up in the air. He sits in

820
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: with the team and stuff like that. So I feel

821
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 1: like de stot there that feel like we also could

822
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: use it not a free safety or a slot corner

823
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: type of hybrid mix, because I know we have some

824
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: guys coming in and I wanted to act for them.

825
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: With the undrafted free creators. If there's like any play

826
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: receivers that we've got or slot corners, that's really interesting. No,

827
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, to be perfectly honest with you, um the

828
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: receiver receiving corps that was undrafted the top of the

829
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 1: receiving corps. I had gotten a list of them. None

830
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: of them were necessarily standouts for me. I would almost

831
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: rather bet my money on either Roger Lewis or Travis

832
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: Rudolph having to pick up their game and and winning

833
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: those jobs. I do think they've got to bring in competition.

834
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: Supposedly there will be a couple of receivers coming in.

835
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: But right now, if you ask me odds on favorite,

836
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: who's the four and five, it's probably Lewis and Rudolph.

837
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that they can't get beaten out again.

838
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: You just don't know. Sometimes someone will have a really

839
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: good summer and kind of edge somebody else to the sideline.

840
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: We'll have to see. In terms of the corners, you

841
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: know they the kid from Penn State, Haley is reported

842
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: reported to have had interest with the Giants. Now, we're

843
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: not gonna give you any names, particularly because until these

844
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: undrafted rookie free agents actually signed contracts and step on

845
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: the field that rookie minicamp, they're not the property of

846
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: the team. And that's why I want to caution you

847
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: all the names you're seeing on the internet. I don't

848
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: care if they say they've agreed to, they've signed, or whatever,

849
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: until the guy gets here. I've been around this game

850
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: too long to know that guys were supposedly gonna be

851
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: going to a team as an undrafted rookie free agent,

852
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: and before many app they wind up changing their mind

853
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: and going somewhere else, kind of like being left at

854
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: the altar if you will, at the middle of at

855
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: the middle of the church ceremony. It happens all the time.

856
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 1: So don't live by anything you've seen on the internet.

857
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: And guys supposedly coming here until they get here and

858
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: sign there, not here. So I would say to you, though,

859
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: there are a couple of corners supposedly of heavy interest

860
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: to the giants that maybe here that could provide some help,

861
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: But don't count out Donte Dion as the backup slot corner.

862
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: Don't do that. He's Paul's guy. Understand he's he's one

863
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: of my guys for the dark Horse from last year,

864
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: I think two years ago. A right, yeah, actually it was.

865
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: I think he could back up William Gay at the

866
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: corner at the slot corner spot. Okay, And I had

867
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: a last I know Hankinson is a side. I just

868
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: want to ask what's going on with him? And the

869
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: last time I take pretty times to player and yeah,

870
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: he's just setting out there right now with no doubt,

871
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: And um, I feel like I went the right top situation. Um,

872
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: what do you think is gonna happen with that? And

873
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: I know we did have a rookie flashrooms coming in

874
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: and yes, my expectations, but feelect all the stars. That's

875
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: like where an elite right now? If you're gonna have

876
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: to uh a, let's tackle the right tackle block is said,

877
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: the edge is gonna be a really tough to night,

878
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, no matter how talented your team is. All right,

879
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: thanks you appreciate buddy, Thank you, thank you. Look Hankins,

880
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: this talent time surprise isn't picked up somewhere. But I

881
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: think those guys that got let go late like him,

882
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: and it does Bryant teams are gonna wait till after

883
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: the draft and they're undrafted for agent crop comes in

884
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: before they make a move on those guys. So I

885
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: would think by the end of May, those guys would

886
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: probably be on a roster somewhere at least by the

887
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: second or third week in May, when he wouldn't be

888
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: shocked if some of those veterans find a job within

889
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: a week. To be perfectly frank with you, well that's

890
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: not unlike I was thinking, maybe the team would like

891
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: to get a look at the guys at rookie minicamp

892
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: before they sign somewhere. So I was thinking somewhere rookie minicamp,

893
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: some well and some guys are gonna say, you know what,

894
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: we got holes that we got to deal with. Now,

895
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: let's get these guys in here sooner rather than later.

896
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 1: I could see that too. And the Hankins is talented.

897
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: I think the Giants cupboarded defensive tackle is is fairly

898
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: full right now. But then again, like and here's another

899
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: nugget that we're gonna have to take into consideration, because again,

900
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: whatever Dave Gentleman says, now, I'm gonna I'm gonna believe

901
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: he made the point that when they get the roster

902
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: construction at the end of training camp, he doesn't have

903
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: like line want eight defensive linemen, I want eight offensive lineman.

904
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: I want nine corners or nine defensive backs. That's not

905
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: how he does this. He's gonna pick the best players,

906
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: even if it means that unbalanced roster. So that's something

907
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to take into consideration when we have

908
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: our roster breakdowns and such in training camp one, two

909
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: four seven. Sports dot Com is quoting Gil Brandt as saying,

910
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: I thought the Giants had far, in a way, the

911
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: best draft. Their first two picks, Barkley and Hernandez, world

912
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: on the top fifteen ranked players in the one fifty

913
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: list I released for the draft, and they should both

914
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: be instant starters. They should be the godfather of football.

915
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: Gil Brandt very high with the Giants picks. Just wanted

916
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: to throw that in. Well, I just saw and ideally too,

917
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: you pick second, you should have a good draft. Darn well,

918
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: that's right. I agree with that. Let's go to Jeff

919
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: and Rhode Island. He's done next day, Jeff, what's going

920
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: on palace? We drafted? Crap? What's up, Jeff? How are

921
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: you hey? I'm doing fine. Thank you. Guys did a

922
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: great job on the pre draft and the draft as well.

923
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: Thank you. I wouldn't have expected any less than that.

924
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: Um I was when we got to the fourth round Saturday.

925
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: I was surprised by Loletta being drafted. I have thought

926
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: at that point in time we might go for some

927
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: more offensive line help. And I know you guys discussed

928
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: the the two tackles that were left on the board

929
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: there that we're pretty highly rated. And uh, I guess

930
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: they weren't drafted because of injury concerns or right. I

931
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: don't know if they would draft it later on, but

932
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: fifth round for every year or anything else about maybe

933
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: why they weren't drafted Crosby. Crosby seemed to be an

934
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: injury red flag. We never really got a good answer

935
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: on Jones, right, Paul. Nothing, nothing other than the Lions

936
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: took Crosby and Seahawks took Jones and both went in

937
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: the fifth round, which, by many accounts was it maybe

938
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: two rounds later then where they should have gone talent wise.

939
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: So obviously the league, the league had some yellow flags

940
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: on these guys for them to fall that far. Yeah, okay, Well, overall,

941
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm saying that I'm pretty happy with the draft,

942
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: and although it at this point in time it looks

943
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: like we're a little late in the secondary and maybe

944
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: at right tackle, but we'll just have to wait and

945
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: see how that plays out. And I'm looking forward to

946
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: the rookie minicamp, which will be about what ten days

947
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: or so, May eleven. Yeah, that start, it starts next

948
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 1: Friday is when they really kicks off. Okay, Well, thanks guys,

949
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: you have a great day. Okay, now you two, Jeff,

950
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: thank you how much for checking in. Let's go to

951
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: Roy in New Jersey. He's up next. Hey Roy, what's

952
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: going on? Pal? Hey guys, how you doing well? Hi? John.

953
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: When I look at the logo on your shirt, it

954
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: doesn't exactly evoke memories of the glory days, you know, Roy,

955
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: It's funny. Paul de Tino and I didn't realize that this.

956
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 1: I didn't realize this for one year and how bad

957
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: that year was. But literally we walked in and Paul

958
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: was like, you know what season that's from, don't you?

959
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry everybody, My bad. That might have been

960
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: I don't know it was Arnsperger's last year or whatever.

961
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: It was. Yeah, seventy five, the Shafe Stadium season. Craig

962
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: Morton was the quarterback, walker to Let the leading receiver,

963
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: Joe Dawkins the leading running back. It was a mess,

964
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: an absolute mess, A logo that I care not to

965
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: think about, Offen, they try. I wear it around Paul

966
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, thank you so much. The first

967
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: game my dad ever took me to was that sha

968
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: They placed the Cardinals there you go. Predictably, they lost,

969
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: but that when I see that logo, it just kind

970
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 1: of brings back to some fun memories. So, uh, I'm

971
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: on a contrarian here. I absolutely love the draft. I was,

972
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: I was. I didn't want them to go anywhere near

973
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Um And I the reason is if you

974
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: told me last year before the season that Eli was

975
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: gonna be pressured uh more than all the quarterbacks except

976
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: for three, was gonna have the offensive line play that

977
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: he had, that the running game was gonna be worst

978
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: or second worst in the league, and that he was

979
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: gonna play the majority of the year with um out

980
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: two of his without two of his top three receivers,

981
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: and uh part of the season without his third best receiver.

982
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: Uh and he would have thrown for nineteen touchdowns and

983
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: sixty I would have said that sounds to me like

984
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 1: he's doing a pretty good job. I don't I don't

985
00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: get all the hates the Eli. Nobody's talking about um

986
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: Drew Brees hanging it up, nobody's talking about Pilip Rivers

987
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,959
Speaker 1: getting old. You know, you know what, in fairness, people

988
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: have mentioned Ben Ben Roethlisberger retiring. People have talked about,

989
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 1: and people have talked about and people have talked about

990
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 1: the the the the Chargers preparing for a life after Rivers. Remember,

991
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: everyone thought the Saints were trading up for Lamar Jackson.

992
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: So in fairness, people are talking about those teams trying

993
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: to find the next nay too they Yes, I don't

994
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 1: disagree with that. But here's here's the thing. The reason

995
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 1: that you get people picking on elies twofold fantasy football okay,

996
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: because Eli Manning is not a fantasy football quarterback. He

997
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: is a real NFL quarterback who does things on the

998
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: field that fantasy football people can't understand, okay, because it

999
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: doesn't help them with their numbers and it doesn't help

1000
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: them win their points and win their money and whatever else.

1001
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: So he's not a fantasy football quarterback. That's one. Number two.

1002
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: I know you love this, don't you. Number two, and

1003
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: very very very important is that because people are so

1004
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: into analytics and fantasy football, they don't care that he

1005
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: doesn't have a great offensive line in front of him.

1006
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: They don't care that he has a sporadic running game

1007
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: to deal with. They don't care that he's dealing with

1008
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: third level wide receivers. No, that doesn't matter. That was

1009
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: only for one year. The third well, this past season,

1010
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: two seasons ago, Eli Manning was was tied with Stafford

1011
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 1: in Detroit with six fourth quarter come from behind victories. Okay,

1012
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: that's what that and he went to the Pro Bowl. Okay,

1013
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: so So that's why people are infected by analytics and

1014
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: fantasy football, and that's why Eli will never get his

1015
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: just do I agree? Listen in Paul remembers this, The

1016
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: Giants won the division. They were ten five and one.

1017
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: The combination of quarterbacks was k and Brown who threw

1018
00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: for combined three thousand yards, and the running backs were Tyrone,

1019
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: Wheatley Way Antiqui as a rookie. Yeah he didn't run

1020
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: the ball much, right, but they combined for eighteen hundred

1021
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: yards rushing in twelve touchdowns. They won the division. And

1022
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: even though that was one of the most painful playoff

1023
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: games you ever have to be at, the game against Minnesota, UM,

1024
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 1: it was a successful season. And that's because they had

1025
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: a decent offensive line and they ran the heck out

1026
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: of the ball, and they were in every game and

1027
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: they caused a ton of turneld. You know, since UM

1028
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: the three headed monster of Ward and uh and Jacobs

1029
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: and yes they have they you know, Eli hasn't gotten

1030
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: a lot of help in the backfield. I think that's

1031
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: going to change hundred and eight degrees this year. And

1032
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: my feeling is that Barkley is gonna do two things.

1033
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: Not only is He going to be a threat out

1034
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: of the backfield when he when he's handed the ball,

1035
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: but they also have to account for him when he's

1036
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: running a nel router he's in the flat because he's

1037
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: a dynamic receiver. It's gonna change how defense is planned

1038
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 1: against the Giants offense. Um, there's no way that Ngram

1039
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: uh Oh, b J. Sheppard and whoever they have on

1040
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: the other side, and and Barkley can be accounted for

1041
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: all of the time. I think this is this was

1042
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: the smartest pick Gettl could have made for the short

1043
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: term and for the long term. I think Eli is

1044
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: going to play another three years, and I think he's

1045
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna have a renaissance because he finally has

1046
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: everything he needs. It's going to be different and everyone's

1047
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: gonna love Eli again. Thank you, Roy, appreciate it. Can

1048
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: I'll ask you one question Paul before little last question. Okay,

1049
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: here's my one question for you. Assuming health remains yes,

1050
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: and we're sitting here in December, I don't think we

1051
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: should hear anymore. But this, when it comes to Eli's

1052
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: overall performance this year, he has the weapons, he has

1053
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: a pretty pretty good old line. It's not the best.

1054
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's certainly good enough, certainly good enough.

1055
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: Do you agree with that that Eli has the part

1056
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: of this way, I'll free you the question this way,

1057
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: Does Eli Manning, assuming they're healthy, have the pieces around

1058
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: them for him to have a very good season? Absolutely,

1059
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: Charlie in Portland, Maine, he's up next. What's up, Charlie,

1060
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Speaker 1: you're a final car Hey guys, hey, I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: The last thing you just said. Let me throw out

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Speaker 1: some name. Now, Gelman did pretty well with undrafted free agents,

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Speaker 1: and there's a bunch of them, Charlie. Before you go,

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00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you Paul cannot talk about the team.

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00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing out the name. All right, Okay, There's

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00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: two guys. One is Tyler Howell, uh left tackle or

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00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: Missouri eight thirty pounds. The kid is a good tackle

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00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: played in in you know what's Missouri, the big twelve

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00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: of the Little six or I don't know where they are.

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00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: They played some good good school. Now that's a that's

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00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: a guy that could come in, huge man play on

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00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: the right side. Another guy, there's another guy we that

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00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: might that is interesting out there. He's from Nebraska, Nick Gates.

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Speaker 1: Another big guy. Okay, and then there's free agent. Now

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00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: it's Mr Austin Howard played with the Ravens. So and

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00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: we also, you know, have some guys on the team

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00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: that are going to be competing now Buzz Monty Rice,

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00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: which is what I call Buzz. He's a big dude.

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00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: He would be great on the right side along with

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00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: Hernandez if he can figure out how to stop speed rushers.

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00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: So maybe Hunt can really work with him and make

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Speaker 1: something happen. But there is options out there, so I'm

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00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: not super concerned about the right side. I think we're

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00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: gonna get a guy and get Leman. Remember got no

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00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: well undrafted free agents. He had turned out pretty well.

1086
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: So all you have to do is get one gem

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00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: out there and then we can solidify the right side

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00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: of our line. So that's what I'm looking at. Check

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00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: that guy out from Missouri. He's a he's a very

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00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: very interesting project. We'll check him out. And I don't

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00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be too much of a project because

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00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: he played the left side. He has technique. I'm telling you,

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00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: he looks better than Flowers right now than Flowers. Thank you, Charlie. Okay, guys,

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Speaker 1: have a good, good day. Be honest, I'm not that

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00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: familiar with and he's neither one of the guys made

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00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: Brugler's book, so I don't know who they are. There

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00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: is a story out of the Columbium missourian Um where

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00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: they're talking about the possibility of of UH players from

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00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: that school who would have been UH potentially picks, and

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00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: they said he participated in pro day, which is very nice,

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00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: so obviously I guess he did things there. And it

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Speaker 1: says he possesses the size and speed to perform in

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01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: the NFL, but did not see enough of the field

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Speaker 1: during his time in Missouri. UH. It does not indicate

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Speaker 1: if that was injury related or otherwise. All right, Charlie,

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Speaker 1: I did promise I'll get to a couple of tweets

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Speaker 1: or rapid fire tweet questions. Paul real Um, where do

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01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: you see Hernandez fitting in on the line? I know

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Speaker 1: they said they try them on both sides, but it

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Speaker 1: seems like they have two left guards and oh, Mama

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01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: and Hernandez and Xander Cage. Cannot see either of them

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Speaker 1: not starting. Well. We know that Ole Mamay started out

1113
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Speaker 1: in the NFL as a right guard San Francisco and

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01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: then played some left guards, so I would think he's

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01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: more likely to go that way. In Hernandez stays left,

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01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: and they said they're gonna try both guys at both

1117
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: say spring, and we'll see how they go. Um, Matt

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Speaker 1: de Santa, Sorry, we cannot comment on your on the

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Speaker 1: undrafted free agency is nothing is official yet At Larry Soprano,

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Speaker 1: I had to ask this one for Paul dots with Stewart's.

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01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: Was Stewart signed? That's Jonathan Stewart to me to mentor

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Speaker 1: Barkley or will he get the Lion's share of the

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Speaker 1: goal line touches. I think that will have to play

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Speaker 1: out during the core of camp and then the early

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Speaker 1: part of the season. But I don't think there's any

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Speaker 1: doubt that Stewart was also brought in here in addition

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Speaker 1: to being a roster guy, being a character guy because

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Speaker 1: the Giants they needed a big brother in that running

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01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: backs room. So I don't think you can discount his

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Speaker 1: ability to be a character guy. I think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be both. Yeah, it could be. I could. I think

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Speaker 1: he business. I remember I watched Barkley and shot yardage

1133
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Speaker 1: a lot. He likes to go over the top. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't really pounded and move the piles. We'll see how

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Speaker 1: that turns out. But then, you know, character is important.

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Speaker 1: With him finally more likely to be signed prior to

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Speaker 1: camp by the Giants a veteran right tackle d r

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Speaker 1: C or Dez. You know, it's really funny, folks. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna on a bible. I know nothing about this. In

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Speaker 1: my heart of hearts, I would give d r See

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01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: a phone call and they wanted him to stay. That

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01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: we know he declined to take the pay cut, and

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01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: so it was his choosing to have the Giants release him,

1144
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: but they wanted him to stay. Who's to say? Now,

1145
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: maybe if he hasn't found anything out there to his liking,

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01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: that maybe that could not be a fit again. And

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01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure DRC, the vet that he is, doesn't mind

1148
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: not having to go to spring work. I'm sure he doesn't.

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01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure he doesn't. But is that possible or my

1150
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Speaker 1: point being that he's gonna be patient. He's not in

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Speaker 1: a Russie. He's gonna be patient. But I'll tell you

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01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 1: you could do a lot worse than bringing him back

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01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: good stuff Pollie tomorrow will have Russ Hughesman, the head

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01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: coach of the Richmond spot doesn't talk about Kylolet at

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01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: the top of the shell poll and I'll be back

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Speaker 1: with you talking draft and taking more of your calls.

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01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us. Thank you to Spencer Leftwitch,

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01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: the former offensive line coach, pull her Nanda is in you,

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Speaker 1: tep And thank you to the callers. We'll see tomorrow

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Speaker 1: and Giants dot com have a great day. Everybody,