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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to the hemorh Territory Podcast.

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Speaker 1: This episode two four two. I'm your host, Brad Roland,

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Speaker 1: coming to you deep into the night here on a Thursday.

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Speaker 1: It's July thirty. First. It's a post deadline edition of

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Speaker 1: the Hammer Territory Podcast, and I'm joined by my friend

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Speaker 1: Scott Coleman. Scott, we were all prepared to breakdown of

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Speaker 1: some transactions or something, and then now we're talking about

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Speaker 1: nothing happening. How are you?

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Speaker 2: I have been better, Brad, I what has happened to

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Speaker 2: this baseball team? Like, we're gonna that's gonna be the

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Speaker 2: obvious theme of the show tonight. We're gonna talk about,

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, across Major League Baseball for like twenty

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Speaker 2: nine other teams. Today was a fantastic trade deadline, one

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Speaker 2: of the best ever, and then the Braves did quite

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Speaker 2: literally nothing. Fans are frustrated. They have every right to

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Speaker 2: be frustrated. I'm frustrated. I think you're frustrated to an extent.

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Speaker 1: Like I just it's.

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Speaker 2: Another weird thing this season. And maybe weird is too

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Speaker 2: nice of a word. Stupid might be another thing to

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Speaker 2: have a team that is dead in the water. You

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Speaker 2: don't sell off any of your pieces that can help

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Speaker 2: give you a little bit of a better future. This

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Speaker 2: goes back to a terrible offseason for the team. It

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Speaker 2: goes it's another cherry on top of all the weird,

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Speaker 2: bad baseball we've watched off field stuff. It's just been

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Speaker 2: like the last ten months, what has happened to the

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Speaker 2: Atlanta Braves, Brad.

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Speaker 1: It feels like.

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Speaker 2: They've been abducted or something, because this is just so

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Speaker 2: different from the well oiled machine, the pinnacle of baseball,

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Speaker 2: if you will, from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Yeah, it's a reasonable question. And

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Speaker 1: you know my nature is to be like you know what,

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Speaker 1: everybody take a deep breath, and I'm not gonna really

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Speaker 1: do that. Like I want to, you know me, Scott,

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Speaker 1: I want to, but I don't really have it in

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Speaker 1: me today to fight that good fight because I'm frustrated too.

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Speaker 1: Like I think I'm probably less frustrated than some people are,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not calling for jobs today in the way

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Speaker 1: that some are, but that's maybe a line without a difference.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm frustrated too. I even said, I mean we'll

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Speaker 1: get into it, but of course the headline if you've

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Speaker 1: been sleeping the last twenty four hours is that the

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Speaker 1: Braves did not trade anyone and their cell window. Like

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Speaker 1: we kind of thought at least Brycell Glacias would get traded.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know I said that multiple times, like

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Speaker 1: he'd seem very likely he'd be traded. That didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Marcel Zuna kind of a different story. He had the

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Speaker 1: ability to veto he's a DH it's hard with that guy.

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Speaker 1: Whatever kakes Johnson didn't get traded. Aaron Bummer, name your guy.

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Speaker 1: But the Braves just didn't do anything today and they yes,

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Speaker 1: they made a small transaction yesterday that we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: again later on in this podcast. But yeah, it's another

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Speaker 1: baffling thing. Like I use that term intentionally today. It's

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Speaker 1: just kind of it's baffling, it's confusing, perplexing, like whatever

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Speaker 1: word you want to use. Like I think that it's

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Speaker 1: more confused, that's a reasonable thing. That's kind of where

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Speaker 1: I am, to be honest. It's like, what what is happening?

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Speaker 1: Like why why would you not do for instance, rest

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Speaker 1: Glacis and we'll talk about and you know, the the

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Speaker 1: pragmatist in me is like, all right, take a half

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Speaker 1: step back and say, if they had traded Aglesias for

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Speaker 1: a C minus prospect today, the impact of that on

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Speaker 1: the future is what likes. That's better than doing nothing.

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Speaker 1: I'll grant you that, which is where my head is

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Speaker 1: right now, that it's still better than doing nothing. But

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Speaker 1: you could say, look, does that matter that much? No? Probably,

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Speaker 1: But also to your point leading the podcast, it goes

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Speaker 1: to like it's not just one thing. It's lots of

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Speaker 1: little puzzling decisions. And like I don't believe, contrary to

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Speaker 1: many in the fan base that I've seen, I don't

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Speaker 1: think alex O Thoppolis is a buffoon now. Like I

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Speaker 1: don't believe that's true. I think alex is good at

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Speaker 1: other and snowballs a little bit, and we'll get into

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Speaker 1: all the dynamics of this. Our friend Justin Tscano, who's

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Speaker 1: no longer covering the race full time, had some interesting

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Speaker 2: I think Justin and a few others made a really

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Speaker 2: good point about the money and the financials behind all

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Speaker 2: of this, So let's kind of talk about the financial

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Speaker 2: aspect first. And admittedly this is not something that you

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Speaker 1: Know or Justin who didn't acknowledge that, like he said

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Speaker 1: reporting this. He's in a different capacity now, he's not

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Speaker 1: also he was like hey, on the outside, I should

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Speaker 1: wasn't reporting anything. He was speculating like we are, so.

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Speaker 2: Justin had this, I guess educated or informed opinion that

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Speaker 2: maybe ownership for the Braves, and I know there's this

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Speaker 2: weird ownership dynamic with all that we don't need to read.

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Speaker 1: It's not liberty media, Scott. I know that it's fine

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Speaker 1: Braves holdings. Yes, by the stock by what's their stock ticker?

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Speaker 2: Everyone go buy ten shares and the team can afford

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Speaker 2: to sell off an old reliever making some money. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, in all seriousness, there is probably something to

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Speaker 2: be said that, just flat out, if the Braves weren't

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Speaker 2: going to include any kind of money to trade Iglesias

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Speaker 2: or Ozuna and pay down some of the six to

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Speaker 2: current form. There are better players out there. There are

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Speaker 2: better players making less money. There might even be worse

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Speaker 2: owed a million dollars the rest of the way versus

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Speaker 2: a veteran closer owed seven million, well, if ownership wasn't

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Speaker 2: willing to pay off any of this contract. Then I

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Speaker 2: kind of get it because how many teams were willing

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Speaker 1: For like three months? Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: the money first. It is incredibly frustrating for a team

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Speaker 2: All Star Game and presumably a ton of money off

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Speaker 2: of that, a team that cut payroll over the last

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Speaker 2: twelve months for no good reason. And you can make

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Speaker 2: a logical argument that the reason the Braves did not

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Speaker 2: or Pierce Johnson or Aaron Bummer was financially motivated. And

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Speaker 2: that's really frustrating and disheartening as a fan, it absolutely is.

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Speaker 1: That's well said. I you know, sometimes I hesitate to

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Speaker 1: will be accused of like defending Alex, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: really defending Alex. It's more legit. I just know how

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Speaker 1: this stuff works sometimes and you're you're one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 1: It does have that feel. And again we don't know

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Speaker 1: that somebody somewhere and that's probably Terry McGirk above Alex.

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Speaker 1: Alex is not set the payroll, folks. He does not

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Speaker 1: choose which money to spend. He's not allowed to do that.

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Speaker 1: all those things. And yeah, it's it's a great point,

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Speaker 1: if it was stipulated that you the only way you

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Speaker 1: that I'm most frustrated with is Iglesias is to get

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Speaker 1: at in full. This would be way more understandable if

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Speaker 1: if not all of the contract. Yeah, because you are

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Speaker 1: you're now not you're not rebuilding, but you're retooling the roster.

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Speaker 1: You're the season is over, and by the way that

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Speaker 1: We were already going to pay Iglesias and Ozuna of Glacis,

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Speaker 1: That would be the idea to use your spending power.

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Speaker 1: And there's varying degrees of that, but you're right one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent, like we're not. We're not silly about Iglazias,

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Speaker 1: Like I think he's probably better than like Braves fans

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Speaker 1: We all understand that he's been bad at times this

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Speaker 1: mean contractually free, they would have there would have one

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Speaker 1: have traded a sea prospect for him. I am at

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Speaker 1: least I mean or better. I'm saying the lowest possible baseline,

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Speaker 1: similar prospect back to what they got for Raffia Montero,

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Speaker 2: Think we'll never know, but I think if they put

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Speaker 2: Iglesius would have brought back like a top ten ish

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Speaker 1: And that is the I know it's very complicated and

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Speaker 1: a lot of fans don't want to care about stuff's

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Speaker 1: and I get it. We like baseball, that's why we

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Speaker 1: do this podcast. This stuff doesn't matter. It's just it's weird.

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Speaker 1: And Alex, I think part of it is him doing

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Speaker 2: cheap asses that are running the Braves said, we're not

429
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Speaker 2: going to pay down money to send a player away,

430
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Speaker 2: even for a prospect with some potential. That the Iglesias

431
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Speaker 2: ones really frustrating. We'll talk about Aaron Bummer and Pierce

432
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Speaker 2: Johnston here in a second, But yeah, I mean I

433
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Speaker 2: was not real confident they were going to find a

434
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Speaker 2: suitor for Ozuna for a plethora of reasons that we've

435
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Speaker 2: talked about. And now we just kind of have to

436
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Speaker 2: hope that snit does not overplay a player with quite literally.

437
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Speaker 1: No future with the Braves. Yeah, that's the last thing

438
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Speaker 1: on a zoo that we have to talk about for

439
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Speaker 1: a second. He's now played as of again recording this

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. He's having a good game today, He's walked

441
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Speaker 1: three times, like he's not a zero Like I don't

442
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Speaker 1: think for as much as I just said, he's not

443
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Speaker 1: been very good for the last three months, there's a

444
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Speaker 1: world of west Marcel suddenly hits and is a valuable

445
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Speaker 1: baseball player. The issue with that is the Braves don't

446
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 1: need to care about that. The Braves are not trying well.

447
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 1: They're trying to win because these guys want to play.

448
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: They're playing baseball. They're not trying to lose. But big picture,

449
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,439
Speaker 1: I mean, no one should care if they win or not.

450
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Speaker 1: And that's I know there are a lot of fans

451
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Speaker 1: that will that are staunchly against that, and I totally

452
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Speaker 1: get it. You want to roof for your team to win,

453
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Speaker 1: not saying you go to the ballpark and refield a team.

454
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. But I don't particularly care if

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Speaker 1: they win from now until the end of the season.

456
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Speaker 1: And I think that it's a pretty logical thought process. Yeah,

457
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Speaker 1: even if you're even if you're not rooting for the

458
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: draft lottery odds, Like some people might be so put

459
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Speaker 1: that aside if they didn't have Drake Balwin and Sean Murphy.

460
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Speaker 1: It wouldn't be that big of a deal. He puts

461
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Speaker 1: him out there every day whatever, like everything else doesn't matter.

462
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Speaker 1: He's expiring. They could, they could even try to resign

463
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Speaker 1: him if they had a a situation. But with they

464
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Speaker 1: with where they are at now, you're either sitting if

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Speaker 1: he's playing. It's this simple. You're either sitting Drake Balwin,

466
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Speaker 1: who you want badly to win nationally Rookie of the

467
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Speaker 1: Year for multiple reasons, including one that's draft related, or

468
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Speaker 1: you're seeing Sean Murphy, who you already said has been

469
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Speaker 1: one of the best hitters recently, is having a good season,

470
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Speaker 1: is a really good player, and those guys are part

471
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Speaker 1: of your future in a way that I was doing.

472
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Speaker 1: It is not so. Azuna has played four days in

473
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Speaker 1: a row, including today. That can't happen. I know. Alex

474
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Speaker 1: always does the bit where he says the lineup KRD

475
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Speaker 1: is snits, and we've joked or not so joked over

476
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Speaker 1: the years. You mean, Stephen Sean about sometimes Alex has

477
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: to just get a guy out of there to take

478
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Speaker 1: the card away from snint Ye. This time it would

479
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 1: have to be him literally just waving Marcelo's in which

480
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: they could do like and honestly, I would think about it.

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Speaker 1: If we get three or four days from now and

482
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Speaker 1: he's playing every day and I'm alex Enthopolis, I might

483
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: be like, hey, hey, hey, Snip, either you stop playing

484
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: him or I'm going to cut him. Yeah, because we

485
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Speaker 1: cannot have this. He's I'm not a zealot, Like, I'm

486
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Speaker 1: not saying they should never play again. I'm not saying

487
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Speaker 1: that he's on the team. I kind of get that.

488
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Speaker 1: But more often than not, I am certainly in the

489
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Speaker 1: camp of Baldwin and Murphy most days.

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Speaker 2: Toget, Yes, sure, if you want to get Ozuna in

491
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Speaker 2: there every fourth day, go for it, like you you

492
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Speaker 2: don't want to burn out Murphy or Baldwin. And then

493
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: they their production tanks in the final month. Like I

494
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: get it, man, Like they're catching it's the dead of

495
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: summer right now. They're worn down. I mean, Baldwin's been

496
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 2: out there since opening day, Murphy's been out there since

497
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Speaker 2: two weeks into the season.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: We're not we're not psychopaths here. We're not saying that

500
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Speaker 2: that you know, you must play every inning of every

501
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: game like they're Matt Olsen, But yeah, I mean, there's

502
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Speaker 2: no reason to play Ozuna.

503
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Speaker 1: At this point.

504
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Speaker 2: This is this year is done, like full stop. They're

505
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: dead to whatever you can to give yourself a better future.

506
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: That includes playing Murphy and Baldwin at catcher and DH

507
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Speaker 2: and it's just another thing. I was kind of hoping

508
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 2: even if they quite literally paid, like if the Braves

509
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: paid ninety percent and got a nothing prospect in return

510
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,479
Speaker 2: for Ozuna, that would have been a win because then

511
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Speaker 2: you clear the runway. You can also then maybe even

512
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Speaker 2: Dha Kunya if he's gonna come back, which the whole

513
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Speaker 2: other thing, like, I don't care. They could have gotten

514
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Speaker 2: a twenty nine year old in a ball as the

515
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Speaker 2: return for Ozuna. It was not about the return. They

516
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Speaker 2: were never going to get a good return for Rozuna.

517
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Speaker 2: It was about clearing him off the roster so you

518
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Speaker 2: can do what's best for the team on the field

519
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Speaker 2: moving forward.

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Speaker 1: There was a world two months ago where it would

521
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Speaker 1: have been interesting about it was in his future in

522
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Speaker 1: Atlanta if he had a great season, and look the

523
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Speaker 1: previous two years he was really good, like really good,

524
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Speaker 1: and he made it an actual discussion point because he

525
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: was he was good enough where having him as a

526
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Speaker 1: DH beyond the season, which means, like you know, extending

527
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Speaker 1: him and resigning him was an actual topic and this

528
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: year he has not been close to that good. So

529
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Speaker 1: it's become easy for the Braves like he's not coming back,

530
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: at least he shouldn't come back. And he's a DH

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Speaker 1: only player on a team that cannot do that, Like

532
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Speaker 1: you got you know how good you got to be

533
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: to be a DH only Like you gotta be really good? Yeah,

534
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: Like if that makes sense, especially on a team that

535
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Speaker 1: has the race the race of two catchers. Ronald Kunya,

536
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Speaker 1: I am of the mind and we'll say this for later.

537
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Speaker 1: Should at least have the option to DH some in

538
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Speaker 1: the future. I would like that option, not having a

539
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Speaker 1: guy who has to be at DH every single day.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, Uh, that's part of.

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Speaker 2: This talk about freaking news here on the show.

542
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Speaker 1: Oh no, oh, they won Braves.

543
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 2: One baby, we're back on get the World Series Parade

544
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: and the postseason. All they have to do is go

545
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: like fifty and four the rest of the way and

546
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Speaker 2: they'll be in.

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Speaker 1: I have I have a question. Did you see who

548
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: got to save?

549
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:13,719
Speaker 2: Was it I Glacias?

550
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: Sure?

551
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Speaker 2: Was? I think the Liberty media border room just went

552
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: crazy because now they can sell eleven more tickets to

553
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: make a little more money this season, and then not

554
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 2: gotten it.

555
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Speaker 1: It's the Atlanta Braves holdings. Come on, man, it's not

556
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: liberty to use me. Excuse me. So it's so funny

557
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: to me. And look, this is a great example of

558
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Speaker 1: what we just talked about a little bit. Brian Sicker

559
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: and I will defense it mildly right now, mildly on

560
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,239
Speaker 1: this one thing. His job is to try to win

561
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Speaker 1: baseball games. He's the man's his final two months. Yeah,

562
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: so he's gonna try to win baseball games and that's

563
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Speaker 1: his job, which means it's very defensible to close with

564
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Speaker 1: the Glacias, you know what I mean. It's like, yeah,

565
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: he's on your team, why wouldn't you use him? But

566
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Speaker 1: it does look like hilarious for him to be closing

567
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: in game today. He just wants to say out loud.

568
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: So there's a disconnect where Alex is responsible for the

569
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: big picture, Alex is responsible for the future. Snitth is

570
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: not Sni is the manager that day, and if he

571
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: has the card to play, he's gonna play it. So,

572
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: uh boy, that's funny. Hey, and again we're not gonna

573
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 1: break down the game today. They blew one. Are the

574
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Speaker 1: craziest Let's just do this now, what are the craziest

575
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: eighth things you'll ever see in your life? Tonight? The

576
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: Brave score It was three to three going to the

577
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: eighth inning. The Brave scored eight runs in the top

578
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: of the eighth, what up eleven to three and probably

579
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: a lot eight runs at the bottom and in the

580
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the eighth without getting and out

581
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: eight runs sorry, eight hits, eight runs to begin the inning,

582
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: no else, and they won the game.

583
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be some weird hours, Brad, these next two months.

584
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 2: There's no rules. There's gonna be weird stuff. The pitching

585
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 2: is just gonna be I mean, good god, some of

586
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 2: the pitching that's gonna be out there.

587
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Speaker 4: Oh.

588
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: The lineup, I mean, the lineup has been a little

589
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 2: better lately, I guess. I mean they got shut out yesterday.

590
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: It has, but honestly today, I mean we're veering it

591
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: towards game discussion. But d the combination of Dane Dunning

592
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,959
Speaker 1: who was just terrible today and Don'tly had a bad

593
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: day as well. Delan League gave it three hits and

594
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: a home run. You know what, Scott, We'll use this

595
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: opportunity that the Braves just provided us by winn of

596
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: a game today that they probably don't bet a fit

597
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: from wunning and we did the recap. I want to

598
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: come back to deadline stuff, which means fallout from what

599
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: Alex said, some of the discussion about Bummer Johnson, maybe

600
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: even Lee. Also what Alex said about Ron mccunya, who

601
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Speaker 1: is not being shut down. I want to go ahead

602
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: announce that right now not being shut down according Alex.

603
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: We'll get into all that a second, but first it

604
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: were from our friends at Draft Kings and our player

605
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Speaker 1: segment on the podcast today. We are much today by

606
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Speaker 1: the pick six app from Draft Kings. All you have

607
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Speaker 1: to do is pick more or less than the staffs

608
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Speaker 1: for two of your more two or more of your

609
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Speaker 1: favorite players, and you're in the mix for cash prizes

610
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Speaker 1: with pick six from DraftKings. And I want to focus

611
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Speaker 1: actually on the guy the Braves traded for yesterday, not

612
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: a big name, but this is a deadline themed episode,

613
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: so we're going to talk about the newly acquired player

614
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: in short fashion. We know Steven and Shaw talked about

615
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: him yesterday. We won't repeat all of that, but the

616
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Speaker 1: only major leaguer they added other than I guess Carlos

617
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: Carrasco and a roundabout way Eric Fatti a few days ago.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Kinley is the newest addition to the bullpen. He's

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Speaker 1: a spotlight today. He actually pitched on Thursday, got through

620
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Speaker 1: an inning scoreless. It was not seamless, but it got

621
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Speaker 1: through scoreless. But beyond that, he's a thirty four year

622
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: old right hitter from the Rockies. The Braves traded a

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Speaker 1: by all accounts, a throw in kind of prospect, a

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00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: lower end guy to get him. He's one of these

625
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: classic Braves reclamation reliever projects that actually have worked out

626
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: really well over the years. Other people are poopooing them,

627
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: but they've had a lot of success with this stuff,

628
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: like by name Peter Johnson and Aaron Bummer, two guys

629
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: who had battie ra's and good peripherals that ended up

630
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: being really good relievers. I'm not saying Talako is going

631
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: to be that. He probably won't be, based on how

632
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: good the this is gone. That's what Alex is doing.

633
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: I think Kinley has a guy who has a real

634
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: awesome pitch which we'll talk about, and also club control

635
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: for next year. It's clearly it's a by move that

636
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: we talked about. Actually a lot of the podcast we

637
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Speaker 1: will like, hey, the Brits can still buy if it

638
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: made sense for the future. Here you go a low

639
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: cost by move with basically no downside on a guy

640
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Speaker 1: who they seem to like.

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00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: So I guess I really had two takeaways on trading

642
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: for Tyler Kinley. Number one, I mean, the Pierce Johnson

643
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Speaker 2: comp is, it's just so obvious Rockies reliever, veteran reliever,

644
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Speaker 2: maybe a reliever who really relies on a breaking ball.

645
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Speaker 2: So of course Pierce throws that crazy curve. Tyler Kinley

646
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: throws a slider. I think Kinley throws more sliders or

647
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: more percentage of sliders than any other player in the game.

648
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Speaker 2: It's like sixty some odd percent, which is kind of crazy,

649
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Speaker 2: and it's a pretty decent pitch. So I think you

650
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Speaker 2: take a chance on Kinley.

651
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: He's cheap for the rest of the year.

652
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Speaker 2: I think he's only owed maybe like five hundred thousand

653
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: dollars the rest of the season, and then he does

654
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Speaker 2: have a club option for twenty twenty six that is

655
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: five million dollars. So you could kind of do like

656
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: a two month trial run here for Kinley, and if

657
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: he's really good, then five million dollars is an obvious pickup.

658
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: If he's not very good, well then you added a

659
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Speaker 2: reliever to eat innings down the stretch, and then you

660
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: can just kind of shake hands and say goodbye if

661
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: he's not good, and if if he is good, then

662
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: you pick him up for five million dollars and you

663
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Speaker 2: found a middle reliever for next season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's basically it. Like it's a zero risk. I looked,

665
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Speaker 1: I saw some of the responses last night to Steven

666
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Speaker 1: and Sean reacting positively to that move. No one was

667
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Speaker 1: throwing We're not throwing a parade here. This is not

668
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Speaker 1: a huge acquisition. Like it's a zero basically zero risk

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Speaker 1: or close to zero risk and a moderate upside like

670
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Speaker 1: he might be a decent reliever next year. That's kind

671
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Speaker 1: of all this is, and it's all that matters. Not

672
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Speaker 1: everything has to be a grand slam, Like I think

673
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Speaker 1: this is a good idea of a transaction. It may

674
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Speaker 1: it may yield absolutely nothing with the Braves. No one's

675
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Speaker 1: saying it's an exciting deal. It's not It's just one

676
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: of those things that like requires a little bit of

677
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Speaker 1: nuance to look at, and I think it makes sense,

678
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Speaker 1: but that's kind of all I have. It's like a

679
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: guy that has a he's really good a couple of things.

680
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: He induces soft contact, like to an elite level if

681
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Speaker 1: you are a believer, and not everybody is. If you're

682
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: a believer in the underlying metrics, he has pretty good

683
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Speaker 1: on underlying metrics. And he has a pitch that's a weapon.

684
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and getting out of course field which is impossible

685
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: to pitch in and Stephen and Shawn talked about it.

686
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: If you want a deeper dive on Tyler Kinley, check

687
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Speaker 2: out the last show before this one in the feed.

688
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it's sure, it's a it is

689
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Speaker 2: a not even a gamble, but like the mildest of

690
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Speaker 2: gambles you can take. He'll probably probably throw twenty innings

691
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Speaker 2: for this team over the next two months. If he's good,

692
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: you think about it, maybe you sign him or pick

693
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: up that option. If he stinks, you say goodbye and

694
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Speaker 1: All right, Scott, before we get out of here, people

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about non iglesias, nono zoona topics, and

744
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: the thing we talked about most, I think it's roads

745
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: bringing up now is that the Braves did not trade

746
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: anybody else. Now, Alex did say at least once on

747
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: the record, I think probably twice or three times that

748
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: they were not going to trade anyone under club control

749
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: beyond the season, which is interesting. A lot's changed since then.

750
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: For sure, it's been a while. They went into the

751
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: tank after he said that. But he did say that

752
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: they didn't do that. But people like we all said,

753
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Speaker 1: this was not just my thought, but Pierre Johnson, Aaron Bummer,

754
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: the Lee, all guys that we thought we should they

755
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: should take calls on. That was my opinion. They didn't

756
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: trading those guys. It's harder. I'll throw it to you

757
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: it's harder for me to get worked up about not

758
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: trading those guys because, unlike o zuon Anaglesias, you needed

759
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: to get real returns or you just don't trade those

760
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: guys like it. If there isn't the market, you don't

761
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: do it. And we'll never know. The counter to that,

762
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: and I'll throw it to you is that Summer relievers

763
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: went for some real prices and they did. They were

764
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: bigger name relievers, but like not crazy better relievers than

765
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: those guys. So I wonder what kind of coals Alice

766
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: got on any of these guys, Lee Johnson, Bummer, but

767
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: we'll probably never know.

768
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think those three relievers are probably all

769
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 2: in slightly different tiers because of their performance and also

770
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: their contracts. Now, if of those three, if a team

771
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Speaker 2: wanted to take Aaron Bummer's contract for next year, I

772
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: would have driven air into the airport myself.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was one that and we like

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Speaker 1: to remember. And I'm pretty sure the Braids would have

775
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: done that to save the life picture.

776
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Speaker 2: Save nine and a half million, use it elsewhere. So

777
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Speaker 2: I was not real optimistic because Bummer's been pretty bad

778
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: over the last few weeks. But I was hoping maybe

779
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: some team would be interested in him as a lefty specialist.

780
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: I would have given Bummer away for basically nothing, you know,

781
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: Pierce Johnson, I was really on the fence with I

782
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: could make. I think you can make a strong argument

783
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 2: both ways. On one hand, he is a good reliever

784
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 2: who has been really good with the Braves for two

785
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: full years now, and he only makes seven million dollars

786
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: next season, which is a below market rate for a

787
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Speaker 2: good right handed middle to late inning reliever. That being said,

788
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: this is the Hammer Territory podcast previously Battery Power and

789
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 2: Talking Chop. We would be talking out of both sides

790
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: of our mouths if we don't say that relievers are

791
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 2: very volatile year over year, and sometimes you need to

792
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: strike while the iron is hot because the value can

793
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: just plump, as we've seen with Ryce Iglesia said. Aj

794
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 2: Minter has a bunch of injuries now and goes on

795
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: and on down the list. So Pierce, if the Braves

796
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Speaker 2: traded him, I wasn't willing to just give him away

797
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Speaker 2: for absolutely nothing, But I also see the value of

798
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Speaker 2: him next year and then with Dylan Lee because he's

799
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Speaker 2: so cheap.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think.

801
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Speaker 2: Dylan Lee was the one where I would really have

802
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Speaker 2: to be impressed with the return, like a top seven,

803
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 2: top eight prospect coming back from a good system, maybe

804
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: top five in a bad system for me to give

805
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: up Dylan Lee, who makes no money and has been

806
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: one of the better lefty relievers in baseball for a

807
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Speaker 2: couple of years. Now, I agree with you.

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00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: The last time we talked pre deadline, we mentioned Lee

809
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: as a candidate. I made the case, not that they

810
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: have to do it, and you know, people, there's always

811
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: a nuance here. Bringing him up does not mean I

812
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: wanted the Brave to trade Dolling Lee. It means I

813
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: would have listened on Dylan. That's a very different thing.

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Speaker 2: If a J Preler really wanted Dylan Lee, you bet I.

815
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Speaker 1: Can take that phone call, because that's what I'm saying. Yeah,

816
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean you don't give Dylan. I mean I agree

817
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: with you hundred scient Piers Johnson. The proasce would have

818
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: been a little bit lower than it would have been

819
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: Dylan Lee, for sure, because he makes more money and

820
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: all those things addan. Johnson's good. He's not great, he's

821
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Speaker 1: a good reliever. He's proven he has the club control

822
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: next year. All that Dylan Lee, you would have needed

823
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: to get more. But I'm of the mind and we

824
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: won't real gate all of this. I'm of the mind

825
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: that they should have listened on like nine percent of

826
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Speaker 1: the roster, Like there's probably six guys seven guys, and

827
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Speaker 1: I won't name them now that I wouldn't have wanted to,

828
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: like at least take the call on yeah right now

829
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Speaker 1: with where the Braves are this season. And Dylan Lee,

830
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Speaker 1: as good as he is, is a reliever, and you

831
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,479
Speaker 1: already made the points I won't really get it again.

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00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: Relievers are volletile. Dylan Lee is awesome, He's been awesome

833
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: for a few years now. He isn't a guy that's untouchable.

834
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no reliever basically is untouchable, especially not a

835
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: guy who's like not even like a tradition closer or whatever.

836
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: I don't care about that, but like, he's good, but

837
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: he's not like an all time ridiculous reliever. He's not

838
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: Josh Hater or something.

839
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Speaker 2: I mean, Mason Miller just got the third best prospect

840
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 2: ever traded today for Leo de Vreise from San Diego.

841
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's crazy, a crazy price. But and that's

842
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Speaker 1: why we're bringing it up early. Some of this is like, hey,

843
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: if they could have gotten that kind of return, I

844
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: think Alex would have done it. I can't imagine. And

845
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: Alex would be like, you know what I saw on

846
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: the radio eight weeks ago, and I wouldn't trade anybody

847
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: under team control. So if I do it now, that's

848
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Speaker 1: not That's not what happened.

849
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Speaker 2: I mean, those those interviews with six S eighty the

850
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Speaker 2: fan are not like law binding under road.

851
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Speaker 1: They are not what else, oh, non deadline topic, but

852
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Speaker 1: a big one because it's been the lead topic last

853
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Speaker 1: few days. Ronic youan Jr. Of course they got if

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Speaker 1: you missed the show yesterday or missed anything, they got

855
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: good news on Ronnie. We were all worried big time.

856
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: It's the best possible news grade one calf strain. Great,

857
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: but that's fine. I don't know if you weighed on this.

858
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: I haven't really waited on it. I saw a barrage

859
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: of people saying, shut him down for the season, don't

860
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: want to see him PLA anymore the next year, and

861
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: I understood it. I did. Even after the good news.

862
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of that. Well Alex did too,

863
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: it seemed like and he basically said, they're not shutting

864
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: him down over a calf injury that they've been told

865
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: was not serious. Now, what do you think of that?

866
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: If you're not watching on YouTube Scott's reacting. Scott, what

867
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: was your reaction to that coming?

868
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: I think it was like borderline terrifying, because why on

869
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: earth would you dick around with a calf injury, which

870
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: is the obvious, most precursor to a serious achilles injury.

871
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: Like Brad, you covered the NBA for a borderline living

872
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: so many times the achilles tears. When these players tear

873
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 2: their achilles, which is a more than twelve month recovery,

874
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: doesn't it almost always begin with a calf strain of

875
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: some I mean, tell me if I'm wrong, but does.

876
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, almost always, but yeah, it happens.

877
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: It happens a lot. Famous. The most famous example of

878
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: this was Kevin was Kevin Durant in the finals when

879
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: he tore Kevin Durant, who's the famous BASKETBA player. If

880
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: you don't know, Toris Tory's achilles in the finals the

881
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: NBA Finals the twenty nineteen and he had a calf injury.

882
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: He was battling and he came back. He played for

883
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: like a core, maybe a coreps and a half, and

884
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: then Tory's achilles and like on the same leg and everything.

885
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: It was like, well, that seems related. It was Starry

886
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: Supper in this year, he's less famous Kevin Durant. That

887
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 1: happened literally what a month ago, maybe six weeks ago

888
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: or the best player of the Pacers in the finals,

889
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: calf injury, torn achilles.

890
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: So this to me screams of ownership telling Alex, do

891
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: not shut down your cash cow.

892
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: For lack of a better.

893
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: Like I love Ronald, I man, his body failing him

894
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 2: so consistently is just crushing. And I just the idea

895
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: that they are going to mess around with the franchise

896
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: player to sell a couple extra tickets in a lost

897
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 2: season when he is clearly not only recovering from the

898
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: acl but a strained calf which can lead to other problems.

899
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: He was hobbling around. I just it feels stupid and

900
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: reckless to me. I understand it, like I do. I'm

901
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: not oblivious to this being a billion dollar business, but like,

902
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: come on, man, let's not be stupid and reckless in

903
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: September with your franchise player.

904
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I also we don't. I think there's

905
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: undeniably a business angle. I also would point out the

906
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: Braves have a history, well documented history of probably over

907
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: listening to their players on injuries. Freddy Freeman was a

908
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: prominent example of this, where Freddy could not swing a

909
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: bat basically it kept playing and they wouldn't take him

910
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: out the lineup. Ronnie, this is one of things I

911
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: love about Ronnie. Ronnie wants to play. Ronnie got emotional

912
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: when people saw that interview. Ronnie wants to play, and

913
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: you have you kind of have to save himself from

914
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: him from that. Like I love the passion. I love

915
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: that he wants to play. He loves baseball. It's very

916
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: clear he loves baseball, wants to play. I do too,

917
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: and Core has that to prevail the Braves. And look,

918
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: I've hate We've talked about for years and people used

919
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: to get mad at us for bringing it up about

920
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: how guys were playing too many games, and it was

921
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: probably an organizational like, hey, why don't we not have

922
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: Dancy play every inning? Like Matt I know, Matt Olson

923
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: gets prayed and Madelson knock on Wood hasn't got gotten hurt,

924
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: hasn't played three injuries that we know of plays all

925
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: the time.

926
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: He's also a first baseman, which is physically demanding position.

927
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: It is, But I would say there's a multi pronged

928
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: thing here, like you don't want Ryannie to come back

929
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: too early because he wants to. And look, we didn't U,

930
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: Steve and Sean didn't notice when they reacted originally to

931
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: this about how Ronnie was apparently having a nagging issue

932
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: the day before and they let him play, Like we

933
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: haven't talked about that on the podcast. You and I

934
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: that that stuff cannot happen, Like this season is over.

935
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: You cannot put your friends up. I know he wanted

936
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: to play, I know he begged to play or whatever.

937
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: I get it. Somebody has to tell him, Ronnie, we

938
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: love you. You're not playing today, Like somebody has to,

939
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: and snit is for whatever reason, is a player's manager.

940
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: He just won't say that to anybody, it seems like.

941
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: So that's that's one thing. So I am not of

942
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: the mind where I'm like, if they don't shut him

943
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: down for the season, I'm going to be in a rage.

944
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: But if he comes back as Smidge too early, I'll

945
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: be furious. Like if there is I mean the old

946
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: Bobby Cox was like, give him the extra day. I remember,

947
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: you remember that whole thing with Ronnie. It's give him

948
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: an extra two weeks, Like, I mean, the season is over.

949
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: I understand if he's like in the same way as

950
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: Chris Sale. By the way, Chris Sale is apparently like

951
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting like Chris Sale. There's buzz around the

952
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: team that Chris is like, I'm coming back this year.

953
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: I hope not for his sake, but if Ronnie's let's

954
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: say Ronnie's back on Let's say Ronnie could play on

955
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: August seventeenth, They're still playing for six more, seven more

956
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: weeks after that. It's kind of a hard sell to

957
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: him to be like, you know, Ronnie, we know you're healthy,

958
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: You're still not playing all.

959
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: Get it.

960
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm kind of just I'm not I'm not

961
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: even sure I believe what I'm saying, but I'm going

962
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: to give you the There is a real counter there,

963
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: like you don't want to make Ronnie like mad at

964
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: you as an organization when he's your guy. But so

965
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: maybe it's like, hey, he's back, he's eligible or not eligible,

966
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: but he's able to play without risk. They think on

967
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: August seventeenth. Maybe you say, all right, Ronnie, here's the deal.

968
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 1: September first, you can come back two extra weeks Labor Day. Yeah,

969
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: and we're not We're not, obviously full disclosure, we're not

970
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: medical experts. We don't know. Well, maybe we are, but

971
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: it's I don't think you can. I get it. On

972
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: all sides. I get the reaction. I had the same

973
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: reaction as soon as I even it was. I exhaled

974
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: first when I saw Grade one castoring, like oh grank God.

975
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: And then I also said, I hope he doesn't play

976
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: anymore this year. And but we also speaking not talking

977
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: besides of our mouth, we've also said multiple times in

978
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, he's the reason to keep watching,

979
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: like he is thrilling, Like I don't think you play

980
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: him to sell tickets, but like man, I I love

981
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: washing him play. I'm I'm excited to watch him play.

982
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: I also don't want to see him play anytime soon.

983
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: Go go, go go away, Get get healthy, Ronnie. You

984
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: could bring the juice from the dugout.

985
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think I think the Braves are

986
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: going to play Acunya, and I think we're all going

987
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: to have to just close our eyes, cross our fingers

988
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: and say a prayer every single night that that kid's

989
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: body holds up because another their catastrophic injury would just

990
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 2: be so unbelievably crushing if this kid loses another season

991
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: because of a bad injury. So let's hope. Thank goodness,

992
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: it was just when Ronald was like tearing up in

993
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: that media interview.

994
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: I mean player, I mean people know.

995
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: Right, there's obviously you go get tests, but you know

996
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: if something is wrong with your body, And when he

997
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: started crying man, or was about to cry, it was like,

998
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: oh my god, did he just do something serious? So,

999
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: thank goodness, Ronald is going to be okay. I if

1000
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 2: it was me and there was no ramifications, I would

1001
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: shut him down and say see in February. But I

1002
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 2: get it again, we're not oblivious. There is a business

1003
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 2: to this. And also Ronald wants to play, and you're

1004
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: not going to be able to necessarily sell him on

1005
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: Hey man, there's forty five games left in the season.

1006
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: You're going to be sitting the bench for a month and.

1007
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: A half while healthy, Like that's yeah, it's easier to

1008
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: be like, hey, Ronnie, take your time coming back. We

1009
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: want you to be one hundred and fifty fifty percent

1010
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 1: cleared everything. That's an easier sell than like, hey, you're

1011
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: healthy for six weeks and we're just not gonna play you.

1012
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna like that, So I get

1013
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: all that we are on the same page. I think

1014
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna play, and we'll leave it there. Unless you

1015
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: want to talk about anything else, we can get out

1016
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: of here, and I'll just want to mention the Braves

1017
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: have this standalone National Bristol game on Saturday at a

1018
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: motor speedway. It should have been an awesome event. It's

1019
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: still gonna be a cool thing to be a fair.

1020
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: It should have been an awesome like for baseball, for

1021
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 1: the Braves thing. And now it's like the Braves are terrible,

1022
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: the vibes are terrible, but they're gonna set a literal

1023
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: MLB A tenance record on Saturday, like they've already announced

1024
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: that they've already it's like eighty five thousand plus tickets

1025
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 1: at a motor speedway. Stritter's pitching, like, we're not gonna

1026
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: really do preview content the rest of the season. We'll

1027
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 1: talk about some games. Still, I'm not gonna just ignore

1028
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: the games but like, this is probably the last time

1029
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: that we'll like be like, hey, there's a big game

1030
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 1: coming up on Saturday. It's on Fox. It's National Fox.

1031
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's gonna be really cool. I mean that

1032
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 2: many people in a stadium of any kind watching a

1033
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: baseball game is going to be really unique. And sure,

1034
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 2: in a better world, the Braves should be a lot

1035
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 2: better and this would be like a spectacle for us

1036
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: all and all that, but.

1037
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be neat. I'll flip it on.

1038
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: I have found myself watching a little more baseball around

1039
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: the league instead of just the Braves. Like I've adopted

1040
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: the Detroit Tigers, So you know, go Tigers.

1041
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: I'll probably my day. You don't know this. That's my

1042
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: that's my dad's favorite team. There you go, you're a

1043
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: Michigan fan. He grew up. I'm a Michigan fans my dad,

1044
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: and he grew up a Tiger's fan. So he's not

1045
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 1: like he's not a diehard Tigers fan. But I will

1046
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: certainly if I had an American League team, it would

1047
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: be the Tigers. So I am already there with you.

1048
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: So I guess we didn't know this sports roof for

1049
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: the same team Go Tigers.

1050
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: The Camera Territory podcast supports you, and I mean, what

1051
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: it just again, I know it sucks the Braves are

1052
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 2: so bad, but what a great trade deadline for the league.

1053
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: Carlos Korea going back to the Astros. Yeah, the Mason

1054
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: Miller for Leo de Vry's trade was an all timer.

1055
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 2: I mean there was like from maybe what was it, Brad.

1056
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: Like noon eastern?

1057
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: I mean really all day was pretty action packed. Even

1058
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: last Wednesday night at midnight there were trades going down

1059
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 2: and then the morning was a little bit of a lull.

1060
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: But maybe from like eleven o'clock eastern to right up

1061
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: until the deadline at six was just awesome, great day

1062
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: for baseball. So many big trades. There were some I missed.

1063
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I didn't even realize that guy

1064
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: got moved.

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Speaker 1: Charlie Morton got traded to the Tigers. Go Tigers.

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Speaker 2: Now even more reason. So yeah, I mean again, it's

1067
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 2: it's on brand. Then, on a day that was so

1068
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Speaker 2: action packed, the Braves did not.

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Speaker 1: Do a damn thing.

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Speaker 2: But I guess we should have known, Brad, we should

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00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 2: have known better that this is gonna be a busy,

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Speaker 2: you know, forward looking day for the franchise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we should have known. Uh, I'll leave that there

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Speaker 1: for now. We'll just we'll let it's there. We shouldn't,

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00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: we shouldn't. I have to take four responsibility. People told

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Speaker 1: us that they were probably just being doomers at the time,

1077
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Speaker 1: but they were right. The domers are right on this one, Scott.

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Speaker 1: When we were tweeting about the show tonight earlier today,

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Speaker 1: like well, they're not doing it anyway. Well, I thought

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00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: the whole time they're gonna do something. I thought. I

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Speaker 1: would have not said one hundred percent, but I would

1082
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Speaker 1: have taken a bet against anyone that Risell would be

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00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: traded and I would have lost. Yeah. That was the

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Speaker 1: big That was literally the big one. All right, Scott. Well,

1085
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: thank you for being here, Thank you for being patient

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00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: with me, recording later than we were supposed to because

1087
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: I was busy. Anything to plug on the way out.

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Speaker 1: And our final podcast for the month of July, because

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00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: that's the thing dead lies at the end of July.

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Speaker 1: This is our last July podcast. By the way, We'll

1091
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: still be doing podcasts in August. People keep telling us

1092
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: not to do podcasts. I love I love I love everybody.

1093
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: I love you all for time to take care of us.

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00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 1: We're still doing podcast Sorry.

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00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 2: We're gonna do podcasts. We're working on some guests and

1096
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 2: some segments, and I mean, honestly, Bred, we're gonna start

1097
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: looking ahead to twenty twenty six here, probably a lot

1098
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: earlier than we normally would.

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00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 1: Maybe it on Sunday, look at.

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Speaker 2: A weekly look ahead to twenty twenty six, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll see, but we'll keep doing shows. We appreciate you

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00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 2: checking out. It's therapy. It's therapeutic for us to kind

1103
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 2: of talk through it. We hope everybody continues to tune

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Speaker 2: in and enjoy the shows.

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Speaker 1: That we do.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna keep rolling, and then even in the off season,

1107
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna keep rolling.

1108
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: That's what we do. And yeah, I mean, I think.

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Speaker 2: Just two more months, Brad, we'll survive this together, all

1110
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: of us, the community will get through it and then

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00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: hopefully an off season with some it's gonna be a

1112
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: busy off season, or at least it should be a

1113
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 2: busy off season famous last words.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's where we are right now. Scott, thank

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Speaker 1: you for being here again. You can follow him at

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00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: Scott Coleman fifty five on the Twitter machine. If you

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00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: want to follow me there at bt rolling. If you

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Speaker 1: want follow the show, because you should at hamber Territory, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,

1119
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: and then the most important thing, please subscribe to Hammer Territory,

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00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: download the podcast, listen to the podcast, Tell your friends

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00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: about the podcast, Apple, Spotify, Tube, etc. Likes, ratings, reviews appreciated.

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00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: We do sincerely appreciate everybody listening to the show. Even

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00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: we're telling us not to do podcasts, you're just taking

1124
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: care of us, and I very much appreciate that. We

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00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: really do, the four of us. I will speak with

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Speaker 1: the four of us, thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: We'll have more cons that coming, no matter what happens,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see everybody next time.