Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay Effi Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording live from our pod
Speaker 1: stream studios here in Times Square. Folks, let's just say this,
Speaker 1: things are not going well in Afghanistan. They have not
Speaker 1: been going well for the last several weeks since the
Speaker 1: Biden and Harris administration announced that they would be withdrawing
Speaker 1: all troops from the region after twenty two years of
Speaker 1: being involved in a civil war and in a conflict
Speaker 1: where we thought that the United States was building a
Speaker 1: democratic infrastructure to help the people of Afghanistan. Well, we
Speaker 1: were receiving reports that there was going to be considerable
Speaker 1: attacks happening outside of the capital of Kabul at the
Speaker 1: airport where there were one mornings that went out not
Speaker 1: just from the United States but from the UK as
Speaker 1: well to their citizens in the region to move away
Speaker 1: from the airports because they were very concerned that the
Speaker 1: security threats that they were receiving were going to actually
Speaker 1: come to fruition. Well, lo and behold sadly they have
Speaker 1: with reports of multiple military folks being killed because that
Speaker 1: is where they were stationed, outside of the airports. And
Speaker 1: then also there were apparently suicide bomber attacks that happened
Speaker 1: at a nearby hotel as well. Folks, when you see
Speaker 1: the pictures coming out of Afghanistan, heartbreak doesn't begin to
Speaker 1: really convey what is transpiring in this region of the world.
Speaker 1: And you know, there are several military folks throughout the
Speaker 1: years that I've had on various shows that I have hosted,
Speaker 1: and to follow them now on social media to just
Speaker 1: see how exasperated they are by the fact that they
Speaker 1: lost friends, right, people lost lives, they lost limbs in
Speaker 1: order to secure this country. And at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, the United States really did not have a
Speaker 1: plan for entry, and they sure as fuck did not
Speaker 1: have a solid plan for exit. And you know, I
Speaker 1: said this earlier in the week that Congresswoman Barbara Lee
Speaker 1: was the only the singular person member of Congress to
Speaker 1: vote against going to Afghanistan, because she said, why are
Speaker 1: we going to a place where we have no clear
Speaker 1: path out and don't really know what we are going
Speaker 1: there for? And I find, you know, when I talk,
Speaker 1: and I'm not a foreign affairs expert, and I make
Speaker 1: that very very clear, but I am a person that
Speaker 1: has enough information and research and talk to enough people
Speaker 1: to have a clear eyed opinion of the way in
Speaker 1: which the United States goes around the world and bigfoots
Speaker 1: in other countries creating these terror vacuums when they decide
Speaker 1: to withdraw. And that's exactly what is happening in Afghanistan.
Speaker 1: We're in conversation with the Taliban for fuck's sake, right,
Speaker 1: and assuming that we're taking a terrorist organization on their
Speaker 1: word about what they are going to do once the
Speaker 1: United States is fully out of the country or as
Speaker 1: they say that the operation to evacuate people will be
Speaker 1: done on August thirty first, according to reports from MSNBC,
Speaker 1: CNN and many other outlets. Is this the reality is
Speaker 1: that even if the United States were to keep pace, right,
Speaker 1: given the suicide bombing attack that just happened that clearly
Speaker 1: killed people, right, civilians and military alike, clearly has now
Speaker 1: created a more heightened sense of security in that area,
Speaker 1: the United States is not going to be able to
Speaker 1: keep up the pace of evacuations that they were talking about.
Speaker 1: So how is this deadline of August thirty first, which
Speaker 1: is just a couple of days from now, really going
Speaker 1: to happen. I don't get it, And you know, General
Speaker 1: McMaster was the National Security Advisor under Trump for one
Speaker 1: year twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen, and he has had
Speaker 1: a military career for well over thirty years and is
Speaker 1: currently teaching at Stanford University. And he said made a
Speaker 1: comment that actually had me take real pause. It was
Speaker 1: one of those moments when you're kind of washing dishes
Speaker 1: in the kitchen and then you hear a phrase and
Speaker 1: you put the dish down and you turn over and
Speaker 1: you're like, did he just say that? And this is
Speaker 1: what McMaster said, And this is a person. Look, I
Speaker 1: don't applaud various military folks because I don't understand military
Speaker 1: operations as well. You have some people that are hawks, right,
Speaker 1: that just believed that really aggressive of military action is
Speaker 1: the only way to navigate in countries, right, And then
Speaker 1: you have other people that believe in more diplomatic approaches.
Speaker 1: But this is what General McMaster said. He called the
Speaker 1: United States' role in Afghanistan over the past twenty two
Speaker 1: years strategic narcissism. And I nearly dropped the dish that
Speaker 1: I was washing when I heard that phrase, because it
Speaker 1: so clearly articulates America's position in Afghanistan. He talked about
Speaker 1: it as essentially looking through the lens of America. You
Speaker 1: cannot go into various regions, especially complicated, layered regions that
Speaker 1: have been in distress for generations, and go in with
Speaker 1: the lens of Americanism and impose that on other countries
Speaker 1: and then think that you're going to create some type
Speaker 1: of mirrored democracy. And he said, you know that isn't
Speaker 1: what was never going to happen. There was never a
Speaker 1: clear plan as to what we were actually doing there, right,
Speaker 1: So initially it was to hunt for the people that
Speaker 1: were behind nine to eleven, but lo and behold with
Speaker 1: more intel and information, those fucking people came from Saudi Arabia,
Speaker 1: right and so, but because we have really tight knit
Speaker 1: relationships with the Saudis, we didn't go where we actually
Speaker 1: needed to go. So here's the thing. How do we
Speaker 1: deal with the fact that the United States is not
Speaker 1: going to be able to evacuate all of the people
Speaker 1: that need to be evacuated and the assumption is that
Speaker 1: they are going to be over a quarter of a
Speaker 1: million people that are going to be left behind that
Speaker 1: have worked with and collaborated with the United States over
Speaker 1: the last twenty years. What does that say about the
Speaker 1: United States, What does that say about our operations across
Speaker 1: varied countries right underdeveloped or developing countries that basically, the
Speaker 1: US will come in, not provide you with a clear timeline,
Speaker 1: and then when they decide that they've had enough, they'll
Speaker 1: just up and leave. And Europe fucking left right and
Speaker 1: and in this case left at the airport, left to
Speaker 1: be murdered and slayed by the Taliban, because we're taking
Speaker 1: their word for the fact that they're not going to
Speaker 1: do anything, even though we have reports that have come
Speaker 1: out and said the Taliban is going door to door,
Speaker 1: knocking on doors and executing family members of people who
Speaker 1: worked with the Americans. So they're not even people in
Speaker 1: that household that them themselves had worked with Americans, but
Speaker 1: say their brother, their sister were as an interpreter, and
Speaker 1: now those people are being hunted. We've already heard reports
Speaker 1: of women, women in the workforce being told by the
Speaker 1: Taliban that they need to stay home because apparently they
Speaker 1: have not trained their men in dealing with what working women.
Speaker 1: So that's availed bullshit that we are going back to
Speaker 1: one of the strictest Sharia law practitioners right in the region,
Speaker 1: which is the Taliban, where women are stoned to death,
Speaker 1: right where they're not allowed outside of their homes unless
Speaker 1: they are under the guardianship of a man. That they
Speaker 1: are not allowed to work, that they are not allowed
Speaker 1: to be educated, that they are not allowed to drive. Now,
Speaker 1: let me not say this in a way that makes
Speaker 1: it seem like again, the United States doesn't do fucked
Speaker 1: up shit to women, because here's the thing is that
Speaker 1: we always look at these countries, right, and we say
Speaker 1: how barbaric, how horrible. Meanwhile, there is one abortion clinic
Speaker 1: in all a fucking Mississippi, right And Roe v. Wade
Speaker 1: is being challenged in the United States because the Republicans
Speaker 1: don't believe that women in the United States, in a
Speaker 1: democratic society, have the ability to have autonomy over their bodies. Okay,
Speaker 1: we don't have an equal pay law in the United States,
Speaker 1: so we know that women are oftentimes making way less money,
Speaker 1: particularly if you are a woman of color, making way
Speaker 1: less money then their white male counterparts. So let us
Speaker 1: not pretend that we are going around the world to
Speaker 1: tell you how to deal with and how to create
Speaker 1: equity for women when in this very fucking country we
Speaker 1: don't have equity for women. Okay, so just because we
Speaker 1: don't stone people to death in the streets, right, doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that we have actual equity in this country. And
Speaker 1: I think that when we are talking, particularly about women's issues,
Speaker 1: we need to come from a lens and come from
Speaker 1: a place of transparency and honesty about where the United
Speaker 1: States is incredibly lagging behind other industrialized nations. All that
Speaker 1: to be said, the situation is rapidly deteriorated in Afghanistan.
Speaker 1: There are reports heartbreaking of children being trampled of a
Speaker 1: five year old little girl. This is from an unverified source,
Speaker 1: but a five year old little girl being caught in
Speaker 1: the blast this week and dying in the arms of
Speaker 1: a worker, a person, an Afghan person who was working
Speaker 1: with the United States military over the past several years.
Speaker 1: You know. And what is sickening on top of sickening,
Speaker 1: on top of sickning, is that the Taliban gets to
Speaker 1: say that they are successful in driving the United States
Speaker 1: from Afghanistan, reclaiming power in just a matter of weeks. Right.
Speaker 1: Trump's negotiations with the Taliban allowed there to be five
Speaker 1: thousand Afghans who are associated with ISIS to be released.
Speaker 1: And where did they go back to fucking isis. So
Speaker 1: I just, you know, we really have to take a deep,
Speaker 1: serious examination of who America is in the world right
Speaker 1: now and who we want to be because the amount
Speaker 1: of money, resources, and lives that have been lost over
Speaker 1: the past two decades in this part of the world
Speaker 1: is unconscionable. And for this current president to say that
Speaker 1: we are not going to deviate from the plan, that
Speaker 1: we are not going to make any arrangements to be
Speaker 1: in this country past the thirty first of August, knowing
Speaker 1: good god damn well that there are going to be
Speaker 1: mass executions, right And I hate listening to these news
Speaker 1: reports that are talking about getting Americans out where and
Speaker 1: I'm like, what about the Afghans? What about these people? Right? So,
Speaker 1: now you have created this crisis of humanitarian proportion that
Speaker 1: we have not seen, have not witnessed right since Syria.
Speaker 1: And this is worse because we're dispersing these people all
Speaker 1: around the world, not really having a plan for what
Speaker 1: happens to them next. And when this story fades from
Speaker 1: the news, these people are going to be left with
Speaker 1: trying to piece together what is left of their lives.
Speaker 1: And I can't express that enough that we will never know,
Speaker 1: and maybe I should never use the word never, certainly
Speaker 1: not in these fucking abnormal times. But for the most part,
Speaker 1: as Americans do not understand what it is like to
Speaker 1: live under a terrorist regime. We do not understand what
Speaker 1: it could be like to have to have just a
Speaker 1: few hours to pack up what you can carry and
Speaker 1: flee your homeland, never to return again, to be left
Speaker 1: on an airport, to be left there and just hope
Speaker 1: that you'll be able to find a way out of
Speaker 1: this country alive. We don't understand that here in the
Speaker 1: United States. We look at these images kind of in
Speaker 1: the same way that we look at and connect to
Speaker 1: Hollywood movies, except these are real people and these are
Speaker 1: real lives. And what we are already seeing is how
Speaker 1: the right wing is trying to turn these people that
Speaker 1: are fleeing, that worked alongside us for two decades into terrorists. Right.
Speaker 1: So I am fearful for these people as they are
Speaker 1: moved from Afghanistan into other parts of the world and
Speaker 1: what is going to happen to them there. But I
Speaker 1: will say this that you know, not only is this
Speaker 1: just this scenario emblematic of where we go wrong in
Speaker 1: America on a regular basis in terms of what it
Speaker 1: is that we are doing. We create these power vacuums,
Speaker 1: these terrorist vacuums all around the world, and we do
Speaker 1: a very shit job in our own media of covering
Speaker 1: the truth. We don't even cover the truth of what
Speaker 1: is happening domestically, let alone really engage with what is
Speaker 1: happening with the American presence in these developing nations right
Speaker 1: that have these massive terrorist cells. We don't deal with
Speaker 1: our own terrorist cells here because if we did, then
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have had a president that told people to
Speaker 1: stand back and stand by and then set them up
Speaker 1: for an insurrection. All I'm saying is this, I think
Speaker 1: that things in Afghanistan are going to get tremendously worse.
Speaker 1: We are going to see images and hear stories that
Speaker 1: are going to be so damaging to this current administration
Speaker 1: because they will bear the brunt, because they will be
Speaker 1: the ones that decided to pull out right and leave
Speaker 1: these people high and dry to be executed one after
Speaker 1: the other after the other. I fear for the women
Speaker 1: and girls that are left in this country and what
Speaker 1: will happen to them. They had a little sliver of
Speaker 1: hope and promise through the last twenty years of being educated,
Speaker 1: of getting jobs, of adding value to their lives into
Speaker 1: their country. Now that is all coming to a halt,
Speaker 1: just like that. Overnight. We create a lot of problems,
Speaker 1: and yet we present ourselves as the world saviors. And
Speaker 1: I think that what is coming to light right now
Speaker 1: is this consciousness, this wake up moment of wait a minute,
Speaker 1: We aren't the savior. We aren't the heroes in this story,
Speaker 1: right And I don't know, honestly when we really truly
Speaker 1: have been the heroes in any foreign story. But that's how.
Speaker 1: That's the force feeding that we have gotten, that we
Speaker 1: have received over so many generations. And I think that
Speaker 1: right now what is happening in Afghanistan is a wake
Speaker 1: up call for all of us. As always, at the
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