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Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Boys. This is Mick

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Speaker 1: Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the

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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys Half now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And all of a sudden, it's Thursday

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Speaker 1: at eleven thirty and it's time for another edition of

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Speaker 1: mix Shots. You know what this man to get here

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Speaker 1: and not all of a sudden. It took a man.

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Speaker 1: I see you guys, since man forever, hasn't it super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: It's wait, wait before the super Bowl. I tried and

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Speaker 1: I can't remember. Who got the picks right for the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. We didn't. I got the Rams, but I

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Speaker 1: didn't get the matchup. I didn't get the matchup. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I did. I think I had the Rams, although

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Speaker 1: I was tugging, tugging on the Bengals, so I was right. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I know, I remember, now, I remember now, Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: picked the Rams and then you convinced me to take

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Speaker 1: the Bengals. No, yeah, we picked I do right at

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Speaker 1: the end of the show that because mixing Joe mixing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I said, okay, I'll take the Bengals. I was wondering

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Speaker 1: what was what was mixing at the end of the game.

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Speaker 1: Why they have Perryn? Yeah, y, I don't know why

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Speaker 1: on third and one put him put the big guy

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Speaker 1: in there. Huh that's and then also challenge well, they couldn't.

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Speaker 1: Probably didn't have time to challenge the spot. It was

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Speaker 1: a bad spot. I made a difference. I thought down

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Speaker 1: I thought it was the best fight because on fourth down,

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting there, do not throw the ball, do not

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Speaker 1: throw the ball, and he tried to throw the ball. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So how good of a driveway was it to give

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Speaker 1: the Rams the league seventy five yard drive away? Spectacular

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Speaker 1: one spectacular? The flags was exactly That's why I didn't

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Speaker 1: I didn't get man. But if you they only had

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Speaker 1: thrown they were getting stopped and then they came to flags. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they only had called four penalties to that point, and

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Speaker 1: then they called if you count the ones that got

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Speaker 1: offset that didn't count in the total, there was two

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Speaker 1: there and two more or four within a three play.

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Speaker 1: It was like afterwards on all the studio shows, they're

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Speaker 1: talking about what the great drive it was, and one

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Speaker 1: of the great drives in Super Bowl history, and as

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Speaker 1: I'm watching it, I'm going, okay, now they get another shot.

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Speaker 1: You know, they get down inside the red at the

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Speaker 1: end of Super Bows. I mean, think about it. If

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Speaker 1: they don't, if they don't throw that tikie tack hold

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Speaker 1: on third down, it's fourth down right right. And if

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Speaker 1: they don't call the roughing penalty in the end zone,

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Speaker 1: that's a hold. And all of a sudden, now it's

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Speaker 1: first and goal at the fourteen, not the four And

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Speaker 1: it's like, what happened? They they they they they they

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Speaker 1: they swallowed their whistle, their flags or whatever the whole

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Speaker 1: game and then all of a sudden boom. Let's look

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Speaker 1: at the NBA totally different. You have to almost the

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Speaker 1: other way around, right to get a call at the

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Speaker 1: end of the game, even shooting. I watch the game

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Speaker 1: last night, Curry fouled the guy while he was shooting.

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Speaker 1: The three of the three ended up winning the game,

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Speaker 1: But that was an a one as well. They didn't

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Speaker 1: even call it. If he were to miss it, that

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Speaker 1: would not have been a call. NBA will swallow their

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Speaker 1: whistles and they all especially the last minute of a ball,

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Speaker 1: and if they wanted to be Tickie Tack. On the

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Speaker 1: one play during the drive, there was a false start

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Speaker 1: right everybody moved but the center and they didn't call anything,

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Speaker 1: wasn't like you can put the receiver has an opportunity

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Speaker 1: He doesn't necessarily push off, but he's going to offer

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Speaker 1: be construed as a push off of making contact. So

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Speaker 1: you have the ability on the right as a cornerback,

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Speaker 1: end wide receiver to make contact with the opposition. When

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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor had the courage to go back and watch that,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure when he saw those plays, I bet

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, there's no there's no walk off, he said.

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons sprint going out there, like, come on, guys,

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Speaker 1: like a Bill Bates used to make us man in

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Speaker 1: practice every time he'd be the only white guy in

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Speaker 1: our group, went from group to group like, hey man, chill, No,

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Speaker 1: we're not chilling today. Aaron Donald was not chilling today.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, when I U when I got

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Speaker 1: two plays that Donald made. It's like the third down

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Speaker 1: play when he stopped p Ryan. He just destroyed Bro,

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Speaker 1: He just destroyed I couldn't I stopped talking about that.

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Speaker 1: That that guard and that guy's terrible, like the whole

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Speaker 1: playoffs and seventy seven having identity. Don't say that he's

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Speaker 1: a local kid. He's terrible. From Garland. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how he you know why you're saying that. You know

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Speaker 1: why I make you saying that? Why you know where

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Speaker 1: identity went to college Kansas. Well that's I didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: That That tells it all right there, right, I think

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Speaker 1: that kid might be related to me. How do you

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Speaker 1: get trying He's from Garland. The Walls families all from

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Speaker 1: Garland years right, How do you get anything that bad?

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Speaker 1: It's like he he not only beat him, he threw

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Speaker 1: I've never seen anyone stop someone from behind who call

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Speaker 1: running back. It's like he it was like he was

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Speaker 1: Gong show. Well then went off and he's not going

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Speaker 1: So he's going to have help from the center. So

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Speaker 1: a slant right to the wide receiver um T Higgins,

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Speaker 1: And I wanted to see, you know, I saw it

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Speaker 1: live where the you know, the Desperation Eve landed in

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Speaker 1: is there a possibility of catching it. But they never

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Speaker 1: I never got to see the replay of where did

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Speaker 1: That's what it looked like to me because I didn't

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Speaker 1: realize like a Cowboys loss. Right, Yes, that's what it sounds. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And I went back and played that a couple of

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Speaker 1: been a first down. It was far enough. You hate

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Speaker 1: those kind of right where if it's mixing, then might

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Speaker 1: he might be able to make that? But isn't it?

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Speaker 1: But the indicative thing is somewhere along the line in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, whatever your weakness is gets exposed in the end,

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Speaker 1: and their ability to protect Burrow all year, right, it

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Speaker 1: came back seven sacks in the game, right tackles for losses. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and then the last two plays destroyed because their offensive

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Speaker 1: and Aaron Donald Boy's should I got my vote and

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Speaker 1: I didn't have? You don't know. Did you have him

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Speaker 1: as the MVP for the last play? No, I think

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Speaker 1: for the last two plays he gets it. But the

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Speaker 1: which is ridiculous, stupid. That is so great. It's going

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Speaker 1: with COVID what the I was all done by zoom

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Speaker 1: they would have to cast their ballots basically by the

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Speaker 1: postgame interviews. Are you ascribe? And then that sounds like

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Speaker 1: only thing he asked him was about the face mask

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Speaker 1: that didn't get called on. He was beating anyway, he

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Speaker 1: was beating anyway, exactly. Sorry, I mean, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. I'm dB love Rams and he's a baller.

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Speaker 1: He was beaten almost all game long. It was not

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Speaker 1: it was talking about getting exposed. You know, he's a

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Speaker 1: great defensive back, but sometimes his impact is better at

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Speaker 1: safety because he's able to really make things happen a

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Speaker 1: lot easier. He's able to recognize thing. But when it

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Speaker 1: comes to covering one on one. First of all, the

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Speaker 1: first player to chase the bomb to Chase were almost scored.

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Speaker 1: You know, of course, hey man, I've got beating, No

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Speaker 1: big deal. One thing, you know, when you're at the

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Speaker 1: mid when you're close to midfield and they line up

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady does it all the time. We talked about

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Speaker 1: he's not exactly, he's not. We all know this, and

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Speaker 1: Ramsey doesn't have the back pedal. If he had the

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Speaker 1: ye and they they're doing something else with the NFTs,

425
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. So yeah, they've got a couple

426
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: of nice little uh income streams. Good. That's really gonna

427
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: help the help the the program. All right, watch on

428
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: your legal pad this week, Mickey, you got these were

429
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: all the plays I had from the super Bowl. I

430
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: don't know if you want to keep looking at the

431
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: super Bowl. You know the touchdown to Odell Beckham before

432
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: he got hurt somehow they leave him in single coverage

433
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,719
Speaker 1: out of the slot with with Hilton right, they were

434
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: playing single safety high so it was a seventeen yard

435
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: touchdown pass. You know where the safety was in single

436
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: high standing on the goal line. He was seventeen yards

437
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: off the light of scrimmage, and he stood there until

438
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: the play was almost over. Did no help to the

439
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: poor guy coming out of it? Yeah, but the poor

440
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: guy's gotta be outside right, and he hasn't because the

441
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: inside the Yeah, the safety has the safety. Actually, that's

442
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,959
Speaker 1: a nice alignment when you look at it. First of all,

443
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: they went running the ball very well, so why not

444
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: just standing back there and be ready to just jump

445
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: anything that comes in between the hashes? So the but

446
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: the slot defender, he lined up inside the hash and

447
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: Beckham beat him outside. It pretty simple. That was happy

448
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: for Beckham. But that guy, that's one of the easiest testdowns.

449
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: And my other two things. My other two things were

450
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's first and ten at the eleven field goal. They

451
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: were first and ten at the eighteen field goal. That's

452
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: eight points they left on the field. And they've been

453
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: doing that all k field goal They've been doing one right.

454
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: Nick Pherson was kind of their MVP during the playoffs,

455
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: so comes back. That was That was the other couple

456
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: of things that I had. Oh and and and the

457
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: uh the guy that was inactive Hargrove comes off the

458
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: bench to celebrate. Exception. Right, they're gonna get the ball

459
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: to twenty. Now they get it at the ten, and

460
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: it was it was pretty that he's waving his towel.

461
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you doing? I said, well, he

462
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: was inactive. He just wanted to get on the field.

463
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: And so you talk about the coach watching film and

464
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: then how he reacted these thing. He's gonna cut that guy. Okay.

465
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: I mean if he wasn't good enough to play, I

466
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: don't know if he was. It's not hard Grove. It's

467
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: Hard Graves that is. Okay, they make him in active.

468
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: I mean I'm just thinking in that coaching room. Okay, okay,

469
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 1: all right, we don't have to use our Graves this week.

470
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: So okay, there's another coach across the room. He said,

471
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: oh good, he can't hurt us this week. I could

472
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: save my job. Good. Good, I don't have to put

473
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: him in Good he's he's not gonna screw up this week. Good.

474
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: I I can get through this way. Good. Oh. There

475
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: he goes, sign you have to sign the staff man

476
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: who let him be on the bench. See, put him

477
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 1: in a suite. No one got room up. And then

478
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: sweet but get bad coach has more of responsibilities. Now back,

479
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: that was John Blake, yes switcher. He did it in

480
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,239
Speaker 1: Oklahoma when they saw hide or do him here as

481
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: the defensive line coach, he basically was the get back man.

482
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: You gotta get back. And speaking of Odell, and it

483
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: looks like he torres acl. Did they ever confirm that. Yeah,

484
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: I didn't see a confirmation, but I think that's what happened.

485
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: Check this out. So, uh, you know, everybody makes a

486
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: big deal about them getting Odell and uh and so

487
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: I looked at his uh, his salary and um, get

488
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: the right page here. So he basically, um was eight

489
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: hundred Oh, I know what it was. So the play

490
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: his playoff money. So he had basically a seven hundred

491
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: thousand dollars like a veteran minimum minimum plus a signing bonus, right,

492
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: and so he's like one point two five. So the

493
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: playoff payouts this year for the being in the games.

494
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: If you're in the wild Card game, you got paid

495
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: forty two thousand and five hundred Division game another forty

496
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 1: two five the conference championship sixty five thousand, plus one

497
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand. If you're in the Super Bowl,

498
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: So he got another three hundred thousand dollars there. But

499
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: which is what all the players got? Right for the

500
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: incentive package with the Rams stuff player, I think you

501
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: got not that much. You're talking about you, I mean

502
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: I mean as a team, I mean per player, he

503
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: probably got three thousand. I don't not forty two. You know,

504
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: maybe they didn't give you chi we got zack. You

505
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: just no, you just playing for the incentive if you know,

506
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: Gil would put that into the everybody had that in

507
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: your own Yeah, but this came from the NFL. No, no, no,

508
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: what you need to check on that? I think might

509
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: oh something anything? We did not. So anyway, and when

510
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: he when he signed his control, so happy when they win.

511
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: When he signed his contract with the Rams, so this

512
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: is personal. If the Rams get a wildcard win, he

513
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: gets five hundred thousand. Got that. If they got a

514
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: division win seven hundred and fifty thousand, that's in addition

515
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: to the five hundred right, and he gets a conference

516
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: win seven hundred and fifty thousand, that's two millions. And

517
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: if they win a Super Bowl one million, so three millions.

518
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: So he made another three million dollars. And by the way,

519
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 1: when everybody says, well, you know, they just basically stole him.

520
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: Well that three million is going to count against their

521
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: captain in twenty twenty. Wow, Yeah, just so you don't

522
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: just you know. And so that's why he had that

523
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: ugly cry u ugly cry face. Well, and he had

524
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: re established himself exactly in this league and then he

525
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: tears his a CL which unfortunately, I mean not only

526
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: as a marketable player, but for a contract, a new

527
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: contract for this coming off season. And then he tears

528
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: his ACL, which means and it happens in February. So

529
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: even on a even if it's a clean ACL where

530
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: you're coming back as soon as possible, I mean even

531
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: six months out, that's August before you're even so and

532
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: Gallup's facing the same thing. Yeah, but his was, but

533
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: they hadn't done the surgery until I think this week.

534
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: Maybe they waited. It was let's all go down and

535
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: now on al maybe last week it was it was

536
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: first of February at least. Yeah, depending, you know, all

537
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: all injuries are not the same. And so if it's

538
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: a an ACL where you can come back quicker, I

539
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: mean they have, We've seen it before where guys have

540
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: come back within three months and yeah, so Becca's in

541
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: a great shape. You know, you know how this is

542
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: very fine tone, well toned. I think he'll be okay.

543
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: I think you know the way they've n with medicine now,

544
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: medication and prostgious. Man, these guys are coming back off

545
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: of ACL seemed like this. It's almost like the pitcher's elbow, right,

546
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: Tommy John. Sometimes they just go ahead and ahead, they

547
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: go ahead and do it, and you'll be to strike exactly.

548
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead. Two years later you'll be good. Ye.

549
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: And then the other thing I noticed gonna you know,

550
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: everybody was given the RAMS credit for basically going all in,

551
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: as they say, to win the thing. For von miller

552
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: Well and others. He only he only cost him from

553
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: a salary standpoint seven hundred thousand dollars to play eight

554
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: games because uh denver had to pay had already paid

555
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: nine million of his nine point seven million dollars base salary,

556
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: because he hadn't say it guaranteed. I didn't see what

557
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: his if he had any and send him because they

558
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: just did. They just picked up. But but see what

559
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: happened with O'Dell didn't he he just got cut right,

560
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: So they had to sign him as a free agent,

561
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: but he had already made that guaranteed money right right exactly.

562
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: And so basically what Denver did is they paid nine

563
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: million dollars to get a second and a third round

564
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: draft choice, because that's that's the price. That's the price

565
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: that the Rams paid the second and third and Denver said, okay,

566
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: I'll spend nine million dollars here to get two draft choices, right, yeah, absolutely.

567
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: You know, in four in four playoff games, he ended

568
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: it up with four sacks, fourteen tackles and two six

569
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: tackles for a loss. Now that they won the Super Bowl,

570
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: they can sit there and go, okay, it was worth it,

571
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: right right. I thought they didn't get the staff for trade,

572
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, give up. So now they're gonna be They're

573
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: gonna be other teams that follow the lead of the

574
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: Rams now, but you better win whether they better have

575
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: the picks too. You have to have the picks, and

576
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: you have to have the team that is ready right now.

577
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: And trust me, they were a little shady and shaky

578
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: there for just a second, which it was about week thirteen. Yeah,

579
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford was having his uh Detroit dreams. I guess

580
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: you might call it because he was throwing pick sixes.

581
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: You know, he threw a couple of pick sixes from

582
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: week thirteen, I believe a week fourteen on out. It

583
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: was two pick sixes, and he had got he had

584
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: a mass about six interceptions at that time. And I

585
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: remember telling you guys, my son comes to me and like,

586
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: what's up with Matthew Stafford, you know, And well, and

587
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: they'd lost Robert Woods, so they get Backham and then

588
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: they lost their tight end, bigs Higby. They were down

589
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: to their third tight end by the way, and uh boy,

590
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: the tighty is good because even the second string tighty

591
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: was doing well and the third tighty end comes in

592
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: doing well though strings, so they they ended up they

593
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: have four picks in this coming draft, none in the

594
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: top one, so none in the first, second or third round,

595
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: right basically, yeah, all right, so let's bring it to

596
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. All right. We talk about okay, you have

597
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: to have to do what the Rams did. Okay, and

598
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: I'm not talking quarterback, but other positions of need on

599
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: a team. And you feel like, as I think the

600
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: Cowboys feel like that they've got the nucleus here, all right,

601
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: It is that a road that the Cowboys should think about.

602
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: Where you are giving up draft picks to get veteran

603
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: players who can is this team in a position now?

604
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: But are you going to get veteran players number one

605
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: on the cheap right? Because one point two, five and

606
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand they got those two guys. Now they

607
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: paid dearly for staff. You're you're putting yourself in a

608
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: position this is not a decision to be made at

609
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: the outset of free agency, outside of but in a

610
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: position where you are willing mid season trade deadline give

611
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: up a second and a third. Now, obviously you got

612
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: to start the season strong. Let's say you start the

613
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: year like the Cowboys did this year six and one

614
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, and now you're at the trade deadline.

615
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: Are you, as a philosophy, okay, would you give up

616
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: a second and a third to acquire a von Miller

617
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: to put you over the top? So von Miller just

618
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: use him as an example. Are you bringing in von

619
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: Miller for a second and a third when you already

620
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: got DeMarcus Lawrence and Randy Gregory. So my question and

621
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: I got that question, and it's like, Okay, what position

622
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: are you picking up? Right? Because wide receiver already had

623
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: your three. Now Gallup was hurt, but you knew he

624
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: was coming back. So you get Beckham. Where does he

625
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: fit in right in in the scheme of things, I

626
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: don't know. Think about it with the Cowboy Okay, let's

627
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: just think about what the Cowboys this this year. Think

628
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys this year if they had traded a

629
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: second and a third for von Miller. Okay, okay, you

630
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: got Parsons, all right, you get to that San Francisco

631
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: game and all right, Parsons basically had to play linebacker. No,

632
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: he needs to play right exactly. And so what if

633
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: you had in a rotation you had von Miller and

634
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: them in there? Yeah, and would have would have made

635
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: a difference for the Cowboys. And I don't know that

636
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: it would because of the opponent, which in the run

637
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: game that the stressed, you know, just because of the matchup.

638
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: It could have created the issue, you know, but against

639
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: Let's say if they draw, they drew, what Arizona did,

640
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: which was there, what the Rams did, which was Arizona

641
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: in the first round, and you got pass rushers like that.

642
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: I think it depends on the position. Would you pay

643
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: him second and the third for an offensive lineman. And see,

644
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 1: that's what I was going to say, because that's what easier.

645
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: Is it easier at linebacker to come in with a

646
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: mist making impact, making impact as opposed to an offensive

647
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: lineman who's coming in, Can he make that same impact

648
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: no matter? You know, left side, right side, tackle? Center?

649
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: You know what is that? Is it more difficult to

650
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: make an impact from an offensive lineman? Well, and it's well,

651
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: it's more tangible to see. Okay, von Miller got two

652
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: sacks in the Super Bowl. Yeah, he made a difference.

653
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: Now you get a Pro Bowl caliber left tackle to

654
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: fill in for an injured Tyring Smith, Well, they just

655
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: rush on the other side, and you don't have that,

656
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: even with the analytics, you don't have the same tangible

657
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: numbers that. Okay, that's the difference you have to it

658
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: has to be a formula to well, okay, if you

659
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: have an Aaron Donald inside, yeah, that makes it a

660
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: lot easier for von Miller to come in and do

661
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: some work. Yeah, because now he's capitalizing off of off

662
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: of Aaron Donald. So if we had an offensive lineman

663
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: who we knew was solid, Let's say let's say Tyman

664
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: wasn't hooked and you said, Okay, Tyman's gonna handle his

665
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: business over here. We need to show up the other tackle. Now.

666
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: He was coming over for the other tackle then, and

667
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: it made a big difference. What do you think of

668
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: a passing situation and you've got on the field rushing

669
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: the passer, Michael Parsons, DeMarcus Lawrence, Randy Gregory and Von Miller.

670
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Speaker 1: If I if I can, if I can get him

671
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: to throw the foot, it's third and ten. Yeah, it's

672
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: third and ten, little bit, and okay, we're coming, We're

673
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: giving We're rushing four because I'm moving. These are the

674
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: four we're rushing. We're rushing Parsons and Lawrence from inside

675
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: and Gregory and Miller on the outside, or yeah you

676
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: like that or yeah either yeah, whatever, however you want

677
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: to do it, and you can hold the team to

678
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: twenty points instead of twenty three. So it would it

679
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: would How can I get a defensive tackle to help me?

680
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: With one hundred and sixty seven yards rush stands? Impact

681
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: would have been from the rush standpoint, we didn't necessarily

682
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: need the pressure. We needed to show something about a

683
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: Shan Robinson. You like Ashan Robinson the defensive end, for yes,

684
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: for the Rams a foot worth arms, he was balling.

685
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: He and he's a defensive tackle. I mean the run

686
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: three four. He's a people all season. He's an interior.

687
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: Colins Worth kept saying in the game, oh ay, Sean

688
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: Robinson in Okay, don't run the football. And he's so

689
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: quick right for that size, by the way, and the

690
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: other thing I've discovered about him because we went and

691
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: interviewed his high school coaches and teachers and stuff. A quality,

692
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: quality human being, a great high character guy. You know,

693
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: he goes to Alabama and whatever. And so it gets

694
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: back to my big green notebook and looking for those

695
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: guys who you can trust, that are reliable, who are

696
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: high character guys. How about Andrew Whitworth for that for

697
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: the Rams, the Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year.

698
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: That's speech, that speech that he gave last week. I mean,

699
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: you have those type guys on your team as your nucleus,

700
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: and you're going you have a chance to go in places.

701
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: Now you'll say, well where it was Cincinnati for eleven years.

702
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: They didn't go anywhere. But you know what in my

703
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: in my well put that aside. Yeah, I went I

704
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: went to my big Now he was with Detroit for

705
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: four years and there you go anywhere. Then he gets

706
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: to the Rams, just like Stafford. I went to my

707
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: big green brain. Right. And when I was watching Donald,

708
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: and I remembered seeing him at the Senior Bowl, right,

709
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: and everybody was talking about this kid from pitt undersize

710
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: too short, right, probably has short arms, And I'm watching

711
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: him practice, and it was it was a weird thing

712
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: because the only person who could block him sometimes was

713
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Speaker 1: Zack Martin. And the only guy that could block him

714
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: was Zack Martin, right, and and Donald. The only guy

715
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: that Zack Martin couldn't block was Donald. So seeing those

716
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: guys one on one in that scene unbelievable. And I'm

717
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: sitting there and going, wow, this is something. And then

718
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: both of them gonna end up in the Pro Football

719
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, right, and one of them has a

720
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring. Yes, all right, Cowboys need to work

721
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Speaker 1: on theirs. And so when we come back here on

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763
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: we're talking Hall of Fame. Okay, we're talking Hall of Fame. Man, No,

764
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: I'm bitching about Hall of Fame. We were talking about

765
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame in the break, So now let's talk

766
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: about Hall of Fame on the podcast. Well and go ahead, Mickey,

767
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: you could name the five guys there? You got them?

768
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: Oh yes, have them right here? And all right? Getting in?

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00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: Were la la la la la, Sam Mills? All right, No,

770
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm doing in an order of their year of eligibility, okay,

771
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: and his last year of eligibility, Sam Mills gets in,

772
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: twentieth year gets in, all right, Leroy Butler his fifteenth

773
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: year of eligibility, gets in, Tony Boselli his fifteenth year

774
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: of eligibility in, Bryant Young his tenth year of eligibility

775
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 1: gets in. And by the way, those are the four

776
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: who were waiting the longest out of the finalist this year?

777
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: Were those four right there? Yeah? Brian Young tenth year

778
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: I went to my high school, by the way, Oh,

779
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: there you go. And then um, who was the fifth? Gay?

780
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: I can't read my own writing, did you do? Richard Seymour.

781
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: Seymour was in his fifth year of eligibility, but he

782
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: would do it was the fourth time he was a finalist.

783
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: So he's that's from Patriots, Yes, yes, yes. And then

784
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: Cliff Branch got in as the senior uh the late

785
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: he passed away, and then Dick Vermill got in as

786
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: a contributor or coach whatever. They Art McNally. Oh, by

787
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: the way, so you saw how they announced him, right,

788
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: They had somebody from the team that's in the h

789
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame present Brett Farve did Leroy Butler,

790
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 1: Steve Young did Bryant Young, Ricky Jackson did Sam Mills,

791
00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: uh Ty Law did Richard Seymour. And the next guy

792
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: to announce was Emmett Smith. So I said, oh, DeMarcus

793
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: Ware and I wrote it down on my shoe right

794
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: here you could see it. Edie goes Art McNally, and

795
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: I'm going Art McNally. He was the old official. Yes,

796
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: I know it is, but I'm trying to figure out

797
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: the connection between mcause he's the one that came up

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00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: with the idea of the Emmett helmet rule. Oh I'm

799
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: thinking they had gotten Emmett maybe well, no, they already

800
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: knew who was in, right, But when they got Emmett

801
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: up there and said, okay, he's gonna introduce DeMarcus Ware right. No,

802
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: we ran out and they only got five of the

803
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 1: modern day and then and then when they got to

804
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, Jacksonville doesn't have anybody in the Pro Football

805
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, so they got the guy that they

806
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: went up against it and it ended up being Bruce Smith,

807
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: so they wouldn't butted heads against each other. And even

808
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: vermil was clear Warner right, So it was like, okay,

809
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: they did a switching bait there now. But what they did,

810
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: and you mentioned how many years these guys have been

811
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: in there, like Sam Mills was that was his funniest year.

812
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: If if if he doesn't get in, he's in. He's

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00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: in the seniors category. Oh well, and guess yes, okay,

814
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: that's a long lie. Yes, you know, good good luck

815
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Speaker 1: to tell you that, buddy. So I was because they

816
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: were they were decided. They know, they know to take

817
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: care of those seniors the next Centennials celebration. They know DeMarcus,

818
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: they know where it's gonna get in. Right, I'll still

819
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: be here. We'll see if we're still doing shot. They'll

820
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: do that. The bi centenial celebration. You'll get in Everson

821
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 1: get mad about myself. I told a couple of weeks ago, man,

822
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: and I just I didn't know, because you guys have

823
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: told me he had been up so many times. So

824
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: we were talking about something else, about another pearance or something,

825
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: and I just kind of talked to him about it, like, Man,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I just felt so bad for him.

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Speaker 1: And of course at the time I talked to him,

828
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: then he had been eliminated again from from this year's

829
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: of running. It's just it just makes zero sense to me.

830
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: And then you start talking about by Butler. I mean

831
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Speaker 1: not once again. These are good players, right, damn there

832
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: not knocking knocking, But I mean, why why there's there?

833
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: Includes why why aren't Why is this cowboy thing? It

834
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: feels like there's this that they're not including a lot

835
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: of our guys that really deserve to be in there.

836
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Speaker 1: You start talking about all these other defensive linem But

837
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: then of course I'm gonna go to Harvey Morton. You know,

838
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: you started talking about safeties, man, Cowboys Gay had so

839
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: many damn good safeties. It's ridiculous. You're talking about Woody

840
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,520
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841
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: just the fact that these things are taking so long,

842
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: and once again it kind of makes me upset that

843
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys kind of did them to themselves, especially the

844
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: old regime. Well here's here's the in the Ring of Honor.

845
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: The interesting thing. Here's the interesting thing when you compared

846
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: Darren Woodson and Leroy Butler is because their careers happened

847
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: at the same time, basically, right, you know, I think

848
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: Butler was in maybe one year earlier. Yeah, he's was

849
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: ninety one, uh ninety is when he came into the league,

850
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: and so, uh so they mirror each other as far

851
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: as their careers go. And okay, so Butler was a

852
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: one time Super Bowl champion, four time First Team All

853
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: Pro ninety three, ninety six, nine seven, ninety eight, and

854
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: four time Pro Bowler, and he was on the All

855
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: Decade Team. Okay, Woody, three time Super Bowl champion, four

856
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: time first Team All Pro nine, ninety six, and ninety eight. Basically,

857
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: those are your two safety side by side on the

858
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: first team All Pro team. Okay, five time Pro bowler,

859
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: so one more Pro Bowl. For some reason, wood He's

860
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: not on the All Decade Team. Okay, and Butler was

861
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: all right, And here's where it gets down to career stats. Okay,

862
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: let's say interceptions. Butler had nine hundred eighty nine tackles

863
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: Woody Cowboys all time leading tackler one thousand, three hundred

864
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: and fifty. Okay, let's put an asterisk there because how

865
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: many good players the Cowboys have had over the years

866
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: on their defense and he's still the leading thirteen hundred

867
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: and fifty tackles. Okay, all right, Sacks Butler had twenty

868
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: and a half and eleven for Woody. Okay, that's how

869
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: are you? How you using them? What he's covering the slot,

870
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: covering Jerry Rice over, that's stating there, right, Yeah, no,

871
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: there's Butler had to cover Jerry Rice right, which is zero.

872
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: And so to your point, interceptions you can't cover like Woody.

873
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: Interceptions thirty eight for Butler and wood He's got twenty three.

874
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: And so that is the that is the stat that

875
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: is that got Butler into the Hall of Fame. Yeah,

876
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: but see they keep moving the sticks. That's what makes me, Matt, Well,

877
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: it's because you got this and I'm not talking about you,

878
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: but that's how they explained it to us. You're moving

879
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: the sticks were here. Well you didn't have it. Well

880
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: you didn't win the Super Bowl. Yeah, well then you

881
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: didn't do this. But okay, come on, man, stop moving it,

882
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: you know, stop moving I can't I can't shoot them.

883
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: That's the one. That's the one that bothered me because

884
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: where it's going to get in right? And I understood

885
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: what they were doing, and they were cleaning up, but

886
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: there was no reason. Don't be cleaning up just because

887
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: you didn't clean up, you ain't clean up. Well, cleaned

888
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: up enough, here's something enough. Now the problem might have

889
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: where you're twenty years they were once again, mine was

890
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: a different situation, always unique. But they never even you know,

891
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: they never even putting me up, catboys, never putting me

892
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: up until the last year of eligibility. So mine was

893
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: a true hell man, that was your last year, that

894
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: was my last year. Tragedy there. So they're the one

895
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: to clean that up because that's too much clean up,

896
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's a big oil spill.

897
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: So you start talking about start you start talking about Woody.

898
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: What what's up with Worthy? What's wrong with Woody? So

899
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: what you're gonna wait till this fifteen or his last

900
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: year of eligibility and put him in That is man.

901
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: This this this process is is crappy. Yeah, And to

902
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: me and I know what happens. I always say the

903
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: reporter should not be the ones to do this. I

904
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: just have always believed that. But even if you have

905
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: the players do it, then you're gonna have some issues

906
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: with favoritism and depending on what school you went to

907
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: and the conference that you went through and all that

908
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So I get it, there's gonna be

909
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: some discrepancies. But I'd rather have the players do it

910
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: regardless than have reporters doing it because they their bias

911
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: comes from so many different angles, childhood, best team, the

912
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: player that you like. You don't have to like a

913
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: player to vote for him, and that's what they always

914
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: stating that with me, Oh yeah, we like him, he

915
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: was on our show. You it'd be interesting to see.

916
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: So I think there's like forty eight voters. Maybe they've

917
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: increased it and it's a writer's broadcasters. There's some former NFL.

918
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's coaches on there or whatever,

919
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: but it's a mixture, right. I would like to know

920
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: when the voting went down, how many people voting actually

921
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: saw you play. And that's my point because now it's

922
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: turned over and I remember, remember your research. And I

923
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: remember back in the day, the guy that was the

924
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: columnists in Minneapolis, um forgot his first name, Hartman, long

925
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: time columnists, right Sid Sid. He hated the Cowboys. He

926
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 1: would not vote for anybody. And to the hail Mary

927
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: and it yeah and and and it wasn't a secret, right,

928
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: it was known that he would not vote. Is ridiculous.

929
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: It is ridiculous. I remember when I was up where

930
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: we're trying to get sal. Uh. You know, people were

931
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: trying to they were campaigning for me. So they talked

932
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: to Sad. Thought, well, y'all say, I was not gonna

933
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: vote for me because yeah, Brion Dawkins got in from Philadelphia. Yeah,

934
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 1: so you know, Sound's not gonna say voted for Dawkins.

935
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: But you know, Dawkins got the Super Bowl with Denver

936
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, correct, But but you know you

937
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: got Sal still on the side. So yeah, I mean,

938
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with I don't even know

939
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: how to hell, but I didn't know Brian Dawkins was

940
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: up for the damn Hall of Baby. It's crazy. I'm out, Yeah,

941
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 1: go ahead, we got, we got three, we never got

942
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: to I don't know what the hell we were getting

943
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: to be of what the next And by the way,

944
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: I wanted to point this out because it's gonna be

945
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: my column tomorrow, but you know, everybody's talking about how

946
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: the Cowboys need to save money cap cut this person,

947
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: cut that person, cut that person. What they need to

948
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: understand is what the Cowboys will end up doing is

949
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: restructuring contracts to create salary cap And I'll just use

950
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: one example before I go through everything, because they did

951
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: it last year. And when they signed Dac to the

952
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: however many years it was, they put two voidable years

953
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: at the end with no base salary, and the twenty

954
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: twenty five season has already voided, and that was for

955
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: them to restructure his first base salary and put five

956
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: so they can spread out the restructure bonus over five years.

957
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: And they built into the contract avoidable year in twenty

958
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: twenty six. So this year he's got a twenty million

959
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: dollar base salary. They will restructure that down to probably

960
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, three or four million, at whatever the

961
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: minimum is, and then they can pro rate that signing

962
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: bonus as part of his that would have been his

963
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: base salary over another five years, so they did it twice.

964
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: They put those two voidable years in there, so they

965
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: will create They will create probably with his contract somewhere

966
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: around fourteen thirteen, fourteen million dollars million dollars by restructuring.

967
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: They can do that with DeMarcus Lawrence again if they

968
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: choose to. They can do it with um Lale Collins,

969
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: who by the way, has some uh guaranteed money in

970
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: his base salary coming up right at the time. I

971
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: think it's at the time or a couple of days

972
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 1: after the league year starts. And then the same thing

973
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: with Amari Cooper. Everybody want to cut them so they

974
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: can save. You know, they're gonna end up with six

975
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: million and dead money if they cut them. But who's

976
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: playing wide receiver for you? And he's the veteran wide receiver,

977
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: right who's playing He's a veteran And they got to

978
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: make that decision on the fifth day of the league year.

979
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: So I think it comes to March twentieth somewhere around there,

980
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: because I think the league year is sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,

981
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty, right, So okay, on March twentieth, his base

982
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: salary guarantees, so you would have to make that decision

983
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: before number one, you don't know if you can resign

984
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. Number two, you don't know everybody that's going

985
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: to be in free agency, which you would have to

986
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: use the money you save to sign another wide receiver,

987
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: and you certainly don't know if you can get a

988
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: wide receiver high in the draft to take his place.

989
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: So you got to have a leap of faith to say, Okay,

990
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna save this money here, but I've got one

991
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver I can count on. That's CD Lamb. Because

992
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: not only is Michael Gallup unrestricted, Cedric Wilson's undrestricted, Noah

993
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: Brown's unrestricted, and Malik Turner is unrestricted. So you're four,

994
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: five and sixth guy three, four, five, and six are

995
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: all unrestricted. Now you're gonna have to spend something to

996
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: get a wide receiver or a high draft choice. Right,

997
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: So is there a way in Cooper's contract where and

998
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: you maybe answer this, I wasn't listening where you can

999
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:45,439
Speaker 1: lower his You can restructure it, okay, but he's only

1000
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: got two years left on his contract, so whatever you restructure,

1001
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: there's not as much room to pro rate it right.

1002
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: And the other thing about restructuring, everybody goes, well, yeah,

1003
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: now it's going to kill you later. Well not really,

1004
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: because if you look get what they did with DA's

1005
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: last year. I think the restructure ended up being one

1006
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: point two five million over five years each of five years, right,

1007
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: But the salary CAP's going to go up immeasurably next

1008
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: year because the TV contract goes in, right, and then

1009
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: it'll continue to keep rising to absorb those restructures. Uh So, yeah,

1010
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: it's not like you're adding years to the contract. You're

1011
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: just adding restructure bonus to the contract. But you got

1012
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: to make sure you have years left and you got

1013
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: to make sure. If I'm doing that, then this person's

1014
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: going to be here playing at that level that I

1015
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: would spend that money to keep. I don't think he's

1016
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: he's not that old. I don't think he's thirty. I

1017
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: think he maybe he's he came into Maybe he came

1018
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: in like a veteran. I'm looking it up real and

1019
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: see when you have when you have seven seventeenth, he

1020
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: will turn twenty eight, So he's twenty eight season. That's

1021
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: a veteran wide receiver. You just can't take for granted,

1022
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: you know the things that he did, you know when

1023
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: things were going well, I don't know, you just don't.

1024
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: You can't discount that. And as long as you think

1025
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: he's healthy and you and your young wide receivers are unrestricted,

1026
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: so you got to be careful what you wish for,

1027
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: especially with him. But so if they were going to restructure,

1028
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: you might be able to get that cap hit down.

1029
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:39,479
Speaker 1: How five millions? Yeah? So like it because if million

1030
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: part of the restructure is going to go into this year,

1031
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: right and then and then how much does that put

1032
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: you on the hook for next year for him? Where

1033
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: if you wanted to move on next year, how much

1034
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: of it? Well whatever the right, I mean how much? Yeah,

1035
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: So it'd be a couple couple more million dollars if

1036
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: you can stop Michael Gallup from from you know, with

1037
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: these injuries, because he seemed to kind of get a

1038
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: couple of them real tough. I think he's one of

1039
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: those guys as you look at the season when Dak

1040
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: was having issues during a particular ball game to a

1041
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: particular moment, Gallop was always that guy that kind of

1042
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: bailed him out. He was that guy that was able

1043
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: to go deep. I member a couple of times, Dak

1044
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: Dropping dives in because Gallop was down that sideline. He

1045
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: had beaten his man. That's a consistent thing for Gallup.

1046
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: So put on your GM hat. Gallop's unrestricted, but he

1047
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: probably is not going to be able to be ready

1048
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: for training camp. I'm keeping him. How much would you

1049
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: pay him? I don't know how much I pay him,

1050
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: but whatever I have to pay to keep him, what

1051
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: would another team do? Or can I get him on

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Speaker 1: a one year kind of prove it deal? He's already proven.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna he's already proven him, I know, but he's

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Speaker 1: coming out. That's a young guy coming off of al

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Speaker 1: He's a young man. He's a young man. How much

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Speaker 1: how much would you be willing Mickey um five to

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Speaker 1: six with incentives and Potter the incentives has to be

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Speaker 1: games played because who knows. I mean, we take for

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Speaker 1: granted guys coming back from ACLS. Right, Oh yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: just an ACL. Yeah. Well I don't necessarily take it

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Speaker 1: for granted, but I'm not gonna give it that much

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Speaker 1: weight to where I threw away a young man. Would

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Speaker 1: you agree? So if you were, say Green Bay, would

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Speaker 1: you give him a five year forty million dollars deal.

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Speaker 1: Probably Well, here's what you would probably be doing too.

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Speaker 1: Because of his injury situation. He probably starts the season

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Speaker 1: on pup, missing the first six games of the year.

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Speaker 1: It's very good, agree with Yeah, so he would play eleven.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but you just go in knowing that we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get him ready and we're not going to have

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Speaker 1: him the first six games, but we're gonna have him

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Speaker 1: for a basically, what is a full season for the

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Speaker 1: last eleven regular for Cap Strap Cowboys? Can they make

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Speaker 1: that bet? He's right with the guys, right, he is

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Speaker 1: definitely worth it. Oh, I don't I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: He can get. But what I'm sure the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: hoping and never be else out there is looking at well,

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Speaker 1: he's coming off this al so damnam athletic man, now

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Speaker 1: I know, and he's reliable. Way you sell it to

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Speaker 1: him is these seasons go by fast. Okay, make this

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Speaker 1: amount now and you hit it. We're gonna play you

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Speaker 1: start in week seven and you're gonna show that you're

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Speaker 1: healthy and then you're gonna hit the jackbot jack bought

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Speaker 1: next spring. Yeah, that's how you sell it to him.

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Speaker 1: So all right, we're out of time. Were those are

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Speaker 1: in the tough decisions that they've got to start making,

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Speaker 1: And I can't wait to dive into them next week.

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Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna make the decisions for them next

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Speaker 1: week here on our next edition of Mick Shots. So Cowboys.

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