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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Moved Sticks Podcasts. I'm Bucky Brooks and

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Speaker 1: we're going to do a little something different today. I

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Speaker 1: got my man to Bill behind the glass. He is

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Speaker 1: going to join me. We're gonna have a little conversation

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Speaker 1: about everything that has happened over the first two days

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Speaker 1: of the draft. We're gonna focus specifically on Day two,

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Speaker 1: rounds two and three. But before we get into debt

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Speaker 1: and to build, what's going on? Bucky, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: hyped up. You know, I have my Packers book right

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Speaker 1: here in the Packer Way. My Ron Wolf, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know you're a big Ron Wolf guy. So I

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Speaker 1: was excited watching the draft, seeing the aggressive you know

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Speaker 1: on traditional Packers trade up last night. So I was

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Speaker 1: hyped to begin the draft. You know that was early,

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Speaker 1: So that that that was early. So let's let's go

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Speaker 1: with that. Let's start right there with the Packers in

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Speaker 1: the aggressive move to trade up for Christian Watson. Um,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of I would say concern, trepredation that

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Speaker 1: the Packers wouldn't address their wide receiver need because they

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Speaker 1: didn't make a move the first round. So what do

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Speaker 1: you think about the moving up and what do you

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Speaker 1: think about the big Christian Watson. Yeah, so Christian Watson

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Speaker 1: is a player. I really like him. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: six four, he ran a fourth three six forty. He

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Speaker 1: has that that blend of size, speed and length they

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Speaker 1: look for. I think they like the receivers big. You know,

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Speaker 1: they have Alan Lazard, They've had nbs in the past,

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Speaker 1: and obviously Davante was a big receiver as well, so

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Speaker 1: they like those big receivers. He adds a lot of speed.

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Speaker 1: He's a vertical threat for Rogers right off the bat,

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Speaker 1: and I think he could get a ton of targets.

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Speaker 1: Rogers needs somebody to throw the ball too, and so

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Speaker 1: I think Watson will take the top off the defense

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Speaker 1: and he'll be that deep threat that Rogers really needed.

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Speaker 1: And I really liked how aggressive they were. I know

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Speaker 1: they trade two second round picks, but you know, you

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Speaker 1: have to get your guy, and there was a run

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Speaker 1: on receivers in the fifties, so it was really I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was really good as a fan of the Packers

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Speaker 1: that that they were aggressive and they moved up for him.

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Speaker 1: What was your take? So my thing on Christian Watson,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was the perfect pick for them, uh,

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Speaker 1: even in kind of miket and even though my drafts

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Speaker 1: are what they are. Uh. In the process that I

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Speaker 1: talked about Christian Watson being a Packer, A few things

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Speaker 1: how they traditionally developed wide receivers. UM you hit on

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Speaker 1: normal prototypes, right, So we talked about side speed, UM,

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Speaker 1: big play potential. This is a kid who had fifty

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Speaker 1: seven plays or twenty plus yards or more on a

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty touches. And I think when you look

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are going to worry about why,

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Speaker 1: how are they going to replace Davante Adams in those things?

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Speaker 1: And I would contend that the offense might be more balanced,

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Speaker 1: number one um. Rogers tended to kind of lean and

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Speaker 1: lock into Davante Adams, rightfully so, because Davante Adams is

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Speaker 1: the best receiver in football. But in the games in

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Speaker 1: a beat. In fact, as numbers go up in terms

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Speaker 1: if it's not a level player, but a B level player,

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Speaker 1: And obviously they've also drafted Sauce Gardner and Jermaine Johnson.

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Speaker 1: never really got him tested. We saw him. He certainly

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Speaker 1: wasn't as big as you would like. And even though

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Speaker 1: he was surrounded by a ton of players at Georgie,

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Speaker 1: and he appeared to be the ring leader in terms

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Speaker 1: is a bit of a beauty pageant and you have

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Speaker 1: to look the part um when you're going into it.

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Speaker 1: I think for uh the Eagles, this works out because

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Speaker 1: the way they're able to get them, they were clear

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Speaker 1: the medical stuff and then you know, they kind of

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Speaker 1: take him at a spot where they don't believe and

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Speaker 1: invest in heavily in the inside linebacker position. But you

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Speaker 1: get an off the ball lineback who is outstanding instincts,

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Speaker 1: diagnostic skills, high i Q player. You know, if if

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Speaker 1: he is what we think he is, this is a

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Speaker 1: terrific value pick um. It is a little weird that

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Speaker 1: when you see his teammate k way Walker go in

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Speaker 1: the first round and everyone at Georgia and around the

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Speaker 1: program with you that Nikobe Deane is the one to

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Speaker 1: make it go. But I just have to tell you,

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Speaker 1: like man, it's a body type. It's a prototype league,

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Speaker 1: and you have to have the right dimensions and all

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Speaker 1: that other stuff to check off the boxes to kind

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Speaker 1: of earn your weight into the first round. And we

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Speaker 1: will see if it's just if he's justified based on

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Speaker 1: the way that he plays. But he's really good players.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunate that he had to drop though. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: he'll make an impact on the Eagles. So I think

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Speaker 1: it's a good fit as well. I mean there's still

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Speaker 1: some guys though that are really good heading into Day

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Speaker 1: three rounds four through seven. We have Sam how Perry

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Speaker 1: On Lindfree, Isaiah Spiller, Terrik Willen, Kobe Bryant a lot more.

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Speaker 1: I think we can focus on Sam Howe. Where do

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Speaker 1: you think Sam Hall goes today? You know, like where

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Speaker 1: you're at this stage of the draft, like you are

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Speaker 1: sitting here in the fourth round, and so with the

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Speaker 1: fourth round is wide opened. So any of the teams

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Speaker 1: that had been kind of tied to him, I think

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Speaker 1: this is a flyer. So if you talk about Detroit Lions,

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Speaker 1: because people had made the connection maybe at the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the first round of Detroit Lions, we go with

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions want to make a move, they can do

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Speaker 1: that UM somewhere early in Day three. UM. The Seattle

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Speaker 1: Seahawks obviously will kind of be connected to the quarterback position,

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Speaker 1: even though I believe that they feel really strongly about

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Speaker 1: what they have and Drew lock In Geno Smith. But

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Speaker 1: that is another place. Uh. I expect Sam how to

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Speaker 1: go off the board pretty early because normally, man, when

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Speaker 1: you have a quarterback with that kind of skill, Uh,

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Speaker 1: they don't last long. I would expect early on day

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Speaker 1: three he's off the board. Yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think Seattle could be just to add another guy

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Speaker 1: in the cornerback round. Um, do you think there's a

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Speaker 1: reason why he fell, you know, like this far? No. Look,

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Speaker 1: I think with everything, with all of those wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: I think on our side, what we try and do

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Speaker 1: is we try and build those guys up. And we

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Speaker 1: talked about how, um, you know, these guys have potential

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Speaker 1: in those things. But I just believe, man, when you

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Speaker 1: when you grade the quarterbacks, and we talked about quarterback

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Speaker 1: class and I've had my dress where I didn't put

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Speaker 1: anybody in there. I think when you stay true to

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Speaker 1: like how you view them, particularly how you view them

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Speaker 1: compared to the young superstars that are playing the position,

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Speaker 1: the Pat Mahomes, the Josh Allen's, the Lamar Jackson's and

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Speaker 1: some of the others. I don't think their natural talents

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Speaker 1: mass up to those guys. And I think what the

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Speaker 1: league has done. Is there's a reset on quarterbacks because

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Speaker 1: of two reasons. One the young guys that I talked

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Speaker 1: about in the position. Everyone wants someone who has uh

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Speaker 1: it factor, wild factors, all of those things to the

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Speaker 1: money that is going to the quarterback when it gets

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Speaker 1: over to forty million dollar mark, you're not really trying

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Speaker 1: to settle for someone who's max potential is game manager type.

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Speaker 1: And so when you're looking at that and you think

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Speaker 1: about the draft, you're saying, I don't really want to

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Speaker 1: hitch my wagon to a player that I know may

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Speaker 1: not have the ceiling of some of those guys that

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Speaker 1: we previously mentioned. I'll wait and if I get them later, cool,

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Speaker 1: But if I don't, I'm okay with it, because ultimately

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Speaker 1: I need a start at the position to be able

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Speaker 1: to win. I think we're seeing that kind of come

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Speaker 1: back to the foe. Yeah, and I think somebody will

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Speaker 1: be you know, they'll be really happy getting Sam Howell today.

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Speaker 1: So rounds fourth or seven will begin today at New

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Speaker 1: and Eastern. We'll be back on another recap podcast on

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Speaker 1: Monday with you Rent and DJ, where we kept everything

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Speaker 1: from the draft. Um, Bucky, did you have anything else

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Speaker 1: you wanted to hit on. No man, Look, it was fun.

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Speaker 1: I know, we gave you a little chance to shine.

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Speaker 1: We gave you an opportunity to talk about your beloved

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Speaker 1: packers and what they do at, what what they did

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Speaker 1: at why we receive we getting Christian Watson. So it

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Speaker 1: was a good day. So it was a good pod

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Speaker 1: when we get a chance to get a little packers conversation,

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Speaker 1: because I know it just warms your heart to talk

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Speaker 1: about the green and goal. Yeah, you know, I just

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Speaker 1: have on my packers gear. I have my book. Everyone

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Speaker 1: should read The Hacker Away by Ron Wolf, you know,

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Speaker 1: if they want to know how to build up winning organizations.

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Speaker 1: Sold that note. Uh, until we meet again next week,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back to dropping a couple of podds, DJ

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Speaker 1: and I. We'll talk about all things that happened overdraft weekend. Uh,

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Speaker 1: be sure to keep coming back with the sticks. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time, y,