Speaker 1: What's up? Boys?
Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of Bust with the Boys. I'm
Speaker 2: your host, Will Compton. The boy Taylor out for another intro.
Speaker 2: The boy number one through a hell of an Easter
Speaker 2: party over the weekend, then immediately flew to Canada. So
Speaker 2: the boys in Canada right now until he has a
Speaker 2: flight down to Colorado where we have our next live show, which,
Speaker 2: of course, you guys can get tickets. What what's the
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Speaker 2: in Denver, Colorado this Wednesday night at eight pm.
Speaker 1: Do you know the location? The venue name? The venue
Speaker 1: name Colorado? Oh wait, I have.
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Speaker 2: view House Ballpark eight pm, Denver, Colorado, Wednesday night. I
Speaker 2: expect to see a lot of Husker fans there because
Speaker 2: I know we have a massive Husker chapter in Colorado.
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Speaker 2: you guys have a good Easter weekend?
Speaker 1: Solid? What'd you do?
Speaker 3: Jack just hung out, my my younger brother was in town.
Speaker 3: But nothing crazy, nothing crazy.
Speaker 2: Nah Rue had a blast. Bro Rue's listen. She's a
Speaker 2: socializer now. She likes to socialize. She has fun at
Speaker 2: the parties. I'll tell you what that. We fucked with
Speaker 2: her nap schedule yesterday and gave her a short one
Speaker 2: late morning and then a short one like mid later afternoon.
Speaker 2: And when she woke up from the one in her
Speaker 2: mid later afternoon like, she literally was just fucking pissed,
Speaker 2: crying the entire time until bed. And that's not an exaggeration.
Speaker 2: We didn't know how to. We were calming her down
Speaker 2: for a second, and then it just she was just pissed.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: It was a learning experience. It was like, all right,
Speaker 2: let's not fuck around with the routine. Because we got
Speaker 2: a late invite to Baktiari his Easter party, which was
Speaker 2: a great time.
Speaker 1: The boy bought.
Speaker 2: Hey what a host like. They had the family over,
Speaker 2: They had a lot of different people in the weather. Now,
Speaker 2: that's low key shot. I know, if he shot out
Speaker 2: the fucking weather now coming around. We're in the seventies now.
Speaker 2: But all to day we had a good Easter weekend
Speaker 2: the Masters. How do you say? His last name? Ron
Speaker 2: John Ron John Rahm. Bro Hats off to him. What
Speaker 2: I love most was was the law of attraction post
Speaker 2: from Panda Express. Back in twenty and thirteen, he had
Speaker 2: a tweet that said, I'm gonna win the Masters one day.
Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing I'm gonna win the Masters one day, and
Speaker 2: it was a photo of a fucking fortune cookie that
Speaker 2: said basically, one day your skills and significance will be
Speaker 2: shown or some shit like that. Dude, but for it
Speaker 2: to come full circle and him win the Masters and
Speaker 2: what you know, Unfortunately the boy kapka koepka. See I'm
Speaker 2: kind of you know, I'm getting verse. I saw him
Speaker 2: on that what is it called Full Swing, the little
Speaker 2: Netflix documentary with golf.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a really hot wife too. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: cute wife. Seems like a good personality.
Speaker 2: But it seemed like the boy kind of folded on
Speaker 2: that last round again new Golf, Who am I cheap? Tickets.
Speaker 2: I'm buying the cheap seats. I'm just washing it. I'm
Speaker 2: just tweeting. But John Rahm, the here's the fortune cookie.
Speaker 2: The fortune cookie said your talents will be recognized and
Speaker 2: suitably rewarded from Panda Express at the Panda End. Dude,
Speaker 2: that's fire. And then he goes on the Wins and
Speaker 2: then he has that little speech where he talks about
Speaker 2: zach Ertz jinxing him for you know, first, what do
Speaker 2: he say?
Speaker 1: He four putted the first hole.
Speaker 3: Yeah, zach Ertz to texting him and was like, first
Speaker 3: whole looks wide open, like a walk in the park.
Speaker 1: And yeah, he ends up bogging it.
Speaker 2: What a vibe group chat to be into, like while
Speaker 2: you're in the Masters and kind of like, you know,
Speaker 2: let's not get let's not take ourselves too serious. Let's
Speaker 2: go out here and have fucking fun. But also we
Speaker 2: had new merch.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 2: We sold like several hundred units of our golf merch
Speaker 2: that just dropped. And this this golf merch is without polos.
Speaker 2: We got a little wild hair the boy Garrett. Shout
Speaker 2: out Garrett for making this merch up. The dude is
Speaker 2: grinding to get something put together. Because it's just something
Speaker 2: about golf. I feel like we need a lean into
Speaker 2: or I would like to lean into and get out Jack.
Speaker 2: I know you and Garrett, you guys both golf, and
Speaker 2: it just seems like a good time. You do too much.
Speaker 2: We'll get the boys. We'll get the boys together, all
Speaker 2: get out there, scramble and I'll use one of your guys'
Speaker 2: best ball every time, because I like, you're.
Speaker 1: Gonna want to use Garrett. Garrett is by far the
Speaker 1: best golfer. You and Garrett are gonna be together because
Speaker 1: Garrett is like, damn hear. That's that works for me,
Speaker 1: because that's how it used to do.
Speaker 2: When we were in Washington and we'd be in OTAs,
Speaker 2: we probably golf a couple times a week, and the
Speaker 2: vibes are always high, like Stogi's and Bogies. Boys like
Speaker 2: you throw a Stogy in, you get the vibes going
Speaker 2: with the tunes as long as the group you're with
Speaker 2: it on my music being played in the background and
Speaker 2: just some good old fashioned shit talking and you was
Speaker 2: it would always be nice and competitive because we're talking
Speaker 2: some linebackers. We'd have a linebacker group and nobody was good.
Speaker 2: We just we'd know how to talk shit. We were
Speaker 2: always competitive and it took us like three hours to
Speaker 2: do nine holes. I shit you not, but got away
Speaker 2: from them coming to Tennessee. I felt like there wasn't
Speaker 2: like circles and crews that did the whole golfing thing
Speaker 2: the way we did in Washington. So got away from
Speaker 2: it a little bit to where I'll just do it
Speaker 2: once or twice a year. And I know, again, like
Speaker 2: Jack and g Mitch just learning that about you too,
Speaker 2: are into it, and it's like I just got a
Speaker 2: wall hair this year, Like the weather's breaking a little bit,
Speaker 2: and it's like, yeah, I have a set of night
Speaker 2: or I think it's the Calaways, got some Calloways.
Speaker 1: I got me a little three hybrid. Is that what
Speaker 1: it's called those clubs and brands?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I got me a little three hybrid that
Speaker 2: I used to fucking grip and rip on. And I'm
Speaker 2: just like, it's hard to beat a day on the
Speaker 2: course with your boys.
Speaker 1: It like really is.
Speaker 2: Cold beer, flowing, camaraderie all time high, a little bit
Speaker 2: of shit talking in competition, and again you're also like
Speaker 2: out there it's always good to go with like a
Speaker 2: good golfer, and I'm not like, I know you guys
Speaker 2: are like, oh, we're not good because there's a wide
Speaker 2: range of what's good and bad in golf. It's like,
Speaker 2: I know Jack and Garrett are good, but what is
Speaker 2: that compared to guys you talk about scratch golfing and
Speaker 2: shit like that in Garrett, like actually a.
Speaker 1: Garrett, I bet what's your handicap right now?
Speaker 4: Gee?
Speaker 1: Like five four?
Speaker 3: I've watched Garrett shoot a sixty nine before, So that's
Speaker 3: saying That's.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, Like, yeah, I'm trying to think. I've
Speaker 2: never truly kept score like I've always it's always been scrambled.
Speaker 2: Let's play a scramble. Let's give it a couple guys.
Speaker 2: Usually you're with the better one and then you might
Speaker 2: hit a few good balls that you're like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: starting to get the fucking hang of this thing.
Speaker 1: My best rounds in eighty eight.
Speaker 5: But that's exactly what you need for a scramble, just
Speaker 5: if you just get a couple of good shots in
Speaker 5: like you're doing your.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's when you get a little like when you
Speaker 2: do I've done a couple of the charity ones too,
Speaker 2: where it's like, oh, you got a kind of golf.
Speaker 1: On your own.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, I don't wanna. I don't want
Speaker 2: to do that because I'm gonna lose balls. Like listen,
Speaker 2: let's not you can knock me down a peg, but
Speaker 2: let's not step on my throat. And I'm just golfing
Speaker 2: by myself. But the Busting Golf Club is just lifted off.
Speaker 2: We have polos coming. But you can go on our
Speaker 2: Barstool Merch store right now and check out our golf collection.
Speaker 2: We got some bus busting golf club for the boys,
Speaker 2: fre some fun stuff, tease hoodies, hats, all that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff.
Speaker 3: Also, if there is a golf club in Nashville that
Speaker 3: wants to host the boys, not hesitating to do.
Speaker 2: Not hesitate to reach out. We are looking for a
Speaker 2: good time. I'm talking, it'd be nice to go. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't know what often looks like, but you know,
Speaker 2: once once a week, once every other week is what
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here thinking.
Speaker 1: In my head.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but we need to start making content on
Speaker 2: the golf course and kind of lean into the culture
Speaker 2: because I think the culture like it's getting in my opinion,
Speaker 2: like there's a younger generation coming through now, I feel
Speaker 2: like it's adapting a little bit more. And also the
Speaker 2: respect you got to shout out, the respect that the
Speaker 2: old heads have established over time. But yeah, any club
Speaker 2: out there, I know people talk about the Richland Country Club.
Speaker 1: What are other ones out there? I mean there, there's
Speaker 1: a bunch.
Speaker 3: Richland obviously is a private course, so you get to
Speaker 3: be a member there or have to know someone there.
Speaker 2: But you can't just go and buy around at one
Speaker 2: of these.
Speaker 3: Private no, no, no, no, But like I don't even know
Speaker 3: if I want to say, like the courses just so
Speaker 3: like no free shoutouts. Yeah, but we can believe it
Speaker 3: if we want to. Hermitage Golf Club is where we
Speaker 3: play a lot.
Speaker 1: It's that's one where you can buy around. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can just buy it. That to me is the best
Speaker 1: public course in Middle Tennessee. So that's good.
Speaker 3: The Bridge out in Franklin, we played a lot, harp
Speaker 3: It Hills you can play, which isn't unnecessarily the best,
Speaker 3: but it's it's solid.
Speaker 2: No more free shoutouts. Let's stop it there, let's cut
Speaker 2: it there.
Speaker 1: We got there.
Speaker 2: There's a few out there that the boys need to
Speaker 2: be represented that are putting on good courses, but also
Speaker 2: like no free shout.
Speaker 1: Outs summer day. Is it a golf course Summer Fridays?
Speaker 1: You ever heard of that? But it sounds like.
Speaker 5: Some companies do, like have a thing called summer Fridays
Speaker 5: where like they get off at like two, like their
Speaker 5: their day ends early, it's a summer Friday, and then
Speaker 5: they're just done for the weekend.
Speaker 2: I don't like that vibe, Donny. It's a good time.
Speaker 2: I like it's I can't wait to get into it.
Speaker 2: Think it'd be fun too to do like a little
Speaker 2: weekend sam volleyball league.
Speaker 1: I'm so about that. We go pickle ball. I'm a
Speaker 1: place where you used to live the yeah yeah, down
Speaker 1: by Ava Avo Avo. I think it's called the Sambar
Speaker 1: where they got cocos ice cream. Dude, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a good little vibe. Yeah, I tried to do that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been seeing a green light pod they have.
Speaker 3: They're like a softball league, and I feel like we
Speaker 3: need to start embracing like that camaraderie.
Speaker 1: Whether it's oh yeah.
Speaker 3: It'd be fun if we could get like a crew
Speaker 3: and we can get a few other like cats around here.
Speaker 3: I'm sure like Donnie would be like trying to play
Speaker 3: and like some other as our Nashville locals.
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe we need to get into Uh.
Speaker 2: There's some sports out there we can get into that
Speaker 2: we can start diving, we.
Speaker 1: Do they Yeah, we need.
Speaker 2: I think we need to build a team, but we
Speaker 2: need to build a team where we're trying.
Speaker 3: To go national, you know what I'm saying, Like we're
Speaker 3: trying to fucking because yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Other news in Nashville, Big Jeff Simmons re signing. Let's
Speaker 2: get some class boys. I think that's a that's a massive,
Speaker 2: uh you know, fucking corner piece for the Titans getting
Speaker 2: uh the big ugly Jeff. No, no disrespect to your looks, Jeff,
Speaker 2: the big ugly as in your defensive lineman. But agreed
Speaker 2: to a four year extension ninety four million dollars the boy.
Speaker 2: I think it was like sixty six guaranteed at signing.
Speaker 2: But massive moves for the Titans to keep Jeff home
Speaker 2: and to keep Jeff around basically the culture and being
Speaker 2: the leader that he is too in that locker room.
Speaker 1: But big shots of Jeff.
Speaker 2: Another big signing over the weekend, wash OBJ to the
Speaker 2: Ravens guys saw that. Oh yeah, boy, OBJ put a
Speaker 2: gun to the Ravens sense and I need eighteen million.
Speaker 2: Dude took a year off, year off after Turner's acl
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. Yeah, his availability has been up
Speaker 2: and down, mostly down, and he literally took the Ravens
Speaker 2: for all that they're worth. I don't know if that
Speaker 2: was a tactic by the Ravens to keep Lamar negotiating
Speaker 2: or in like, at the end of the day, Lamar
Speaker 2: can sit there if he believes in his heart of
Speaker 2: hearts that he is doing everything he can to be healthy,
Speaker 2: that he's going to have a healthy year. You can
Speaker 2: bet on yourself and play on these one year tags.
Speaker 2: He might have to play on a couple of them.
Speaker 2: I'm pulling from that experience because that's what Kirk Cousins did.
Speaker 2: He played four years with Washington. He wanted a long
Speaker 2: term deal with the Washington Redskins at the time and
Speaker 2: in his mind because I'd remember when we talk with
Speaker 2: each other about it, because Kirk thought about holding out
Speaker 2: at times during training camp. But Kirk didn't want to
Speaker 2: do that because he knew that he was in the
Speaker 2: quarterback position. He wanted to still be a leader. He
Speaker 2: wanted to be around the guys. He knew that how
Speaker 2: that would look in the media and everything else if
Speaker 2: he tried to hold out in that capacity.
Speaker 1: So Kirk essentially would just bet on himself.
Speaker 2: By player he played on a franchise tag, it's one
Speaker 2: of the first players, maybe the first, but one of
Speaker 2: the first players to play on a franchise tag back
Speaker 2: to back years. Because the Redskins would offer him, Bruce,
Speaker 2: Allen and Dan they would offer him like a three
Speaker 2: year deal, say seventy five million, fifty guaranteed. And the
Speaker 2: way Kirk looked at it as yo, I'm gonna be making,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be making was that twenty sixteen nine point
Speaker 2: nine fully guaranteed. I'm gonna be making twenty in year one,
Speaker 2: in twenty four, in year two. I'm essentially getting close
Speaker 2: to fifty million just in two years without having to
Speaker 2: sign an upside deal of that, you know, of what
Speaker 2: getting up to seventy five. So once you do that
Speaker 2: and you make it to the end, now I know
Speaker 2: it pissed him off to get tagged a second time,
Speaker 2: but you make it to the end and you get
Speaker 2: the free agency, you now hold the cards, you now
Speaker 2: hold the leverage to get that contract that you're wanting,
Speaker 2: because Kirk wanted to help try and establish changing the
Speaker 2: game a little bit to get these fully guaranteed deals
Speaker 2: in the quarterback position. Lamar can look at it the
Speaker 2: same way. And I know I kind of started talking
Speaker 2: about OBJ and brought it into Lamar. But if that's
Speaker 2: a tactic that they're trying to do to get Lamar,
Speaker 2: if you're Lamar, you can sit there and be like,
Speaker 2: you feel comfortable going into this year playing on a
Speaker 2: tag because you're gonna get the average of the top five.
Speaker 1: I believe that's still what it is.
Speaker 2: You get the franchise tag is ultimately the top five
Speaker 2: at your position.
Speaker 1: You get the average of that contract.
Speaker 2: Lamar is somebody who you look at and you would
Speaker 2: pay a long term deal to do get that guaranteed money.
Speaker 2: What hurts the cons with somebody like Lamar is he's
Speaker 2: also like kind of a skilled quarterback. He can run
Speaker 2: the ball. He tore his PCL or he damaged it
Speaker 2: enough to be out towards the end of the year.
Speaker 2: This year, you kind of have a little bit more
Speaker 2: risk there, but again, you're a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Or if you're in his shoes.
Speaker 2: You look at you know, betting on yourself if you're
Speaker 2: looking to get to that fully guaranteed deal, because that's
Speaker 2: the kind of song and dance you do. It's an
Speaker 2: organization now to get back on the OBJ thing, Like,
Speaker 2: holy shit, that'd be like some team paying me five
Speaker 2: million a year. I just need to hold that for
Speaker 2: a minute, just so when thenever the clip cut off,
Speaker 2: they'd be like paying me five million a year. Because
Speaker 2: you know, people are gonna fucking try and bodybag your boy,
Speaker 2: because you know, I played on minimum for several years.
Speaker 2: But yeah, hey good, you love to see it. We're
Speaker 2: we're all pro player on this podcast. You love to
Speaker 2: see the boy Odell get one for basically fifteen up
Speaker 2: to eighteen million dollars. I think he gets fifteen guaranteed.
Speaker 2: I think it's fucking insane, just because again, like the
Speaker 2: availability availability he's had, you're paying him like a number
Speaker 2: one wide receiver and I just don't know, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for him to be the Odell of Old
Speaker 2: that we know or that we knew. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: say he's old and washed, but you hope to see
Speaker 2: that Odell come back but to have him establish that
Speaker 2: kind of money being out of the game for a
Speaker 2: full year and coming off an ACL and the injuries
Speaker 2: he's had, I mean, bravo fucking finding somebody who's paying
Speaker 2: you that money, but absolutely insane. It looks like he
Speaker 2: walked into a banks that throw the money in the bag.
Speaker 3: One of those players though, were outside of skill base.
Speaker 3: He brings like a huge up selling ticket value, like
Speaker 3: for the Ravens, Like people will want to come just
Speaker 3: c Odell because he's one of those premier athletes that
Speaker 3: have made like a statement name in this game. So
Speaker 3: like like he's only like one of a few people
Speaker 3: where like he can get that money taking a year off,
Speaker 3: having the injuries.
Speaker 1: Just because he is bringing that star power.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just such a household name now in the league,
Speaker 3: even though he hasn't played a year. Like I would
Speaker 3: still like want to go co Odell play because it's Odell.
Speaker 2: That's fair. Yeah, I mean that's fair. You love to
Speaker 2: see just the numbers. I'm curious to what the market
Speaker 2: he had. He must have had a market if he's
Speaker 2: able to get that money, because if not, why would
Speaker 2: you come out of pocket.
Speaker 1: For so much money?
Speaker 2: You know, what I mean to acquire somebody like Odell.
Speaker 2: But I'm with you. He does bring that superstar power,
Speaker 2: that fame aspect because it's Odell Beckham. I mean this,
Speaker 2: he changed the game forever when he caught that one
Speaker 2: handed catch reach back like one to three, yes, bro,
Speaker 2: And like is the all the antics and everything else
Speaker 2: like Odell. I hope he has a breakout year, like
Speaker 2: he's a stud. I want to see that Odell Beckham
Speaker 2: of old come back and bounce back. But I just
Speaker 2: think if you're looking at this objectively, you're just thinking,
Speaker 2: holy fuck shit, how he pulled it out.
Speaker 1: He pulled this off.
Speaker 5: He immediately comes the best receiver on the team though,
Speaker 5: Like that's what they're where. The Ravens were struggling with
Speaker 5: having a like they had Mark Andrews the tight end,
Speaker 5: like Dad Rashod Bateman, who's a rookie. He hasn't he's
Speaker 5: been struggling with injuries, like they had a Marquise Brown,
Speaker 5: but they got rid of him a couple of years ago.
Speaker 5: They're like, he immediately becomes their best threat. So maybe
Speaker 5: that's why, Hey, I'm gonna be your best receiver on
Speaker 5: your team.
Speaker 2: Pay me like it, right, which is fair, but when
Speaker 2: you say pay me like it, and again just playing
Speaker 2: Devil's Advocate, which I love the the your points Jack
Speaker 2: and your points too much, but playing Devil's Advocate, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: pay me like it, but also, what have you done
Speaker 2: in the last couple of years, I mean, and it
Speaker 2: must have meant he had a market to get that money,
Speaker 2: because if not, you can, essentially, if you're the Ravens,
Speaker 2: pay something on the low end range of what a
Speaker 2: number one would be or number two I guess, and
Speaker 2: put a lot more incentives. I'm impressed how he got
Speaker 2: so much. He got fifteen basically of the eighteen. I
Speaker 2: think that's what's impressed at Verse, being a more potential based,
Speaker 2: you know, incentive type package to get the full eighteen.
Speaker 5: But he like when he was healthy on the rams,
Speaker 5: like he went, he got, he caught a touchdown, it
Speaker 5: seemed like every week when he was with them, right
Speaker 5: as fine as as soon as he got on the team.
Speaker 5: But like, I mean, that was a knee surgery ago
Speaker 5: and like people say, his knee was still messed up
Speaker 5: during that time. So he's if he's fully healthy, I mean,
Speaker 5: he's thirty, which is kind of middle age for a
Speaker 5: white he's real solid, like the athletic as hell, right.
Speaker 1: And the benefit too, he's thirty.
Speaker 2: Like I know, people once you hit thirty in the NFL,
Speaker 2: you're kind of on the you're kind of getting older
Speaker 2: longer in the tooth. But the benefit of Odell being
Speaker 2: thirty is you're still in prime years of just like
Speaker 2: peak athleticism. Like I want to say, you fully develop
Speaker 2: or you can be in your prime around like you know,
Speaker 2: it's like twenty seven to twenty eight years old.
Speaker 1: I think I'm kind of talking out a turn there.
Speaker 2: But the benefit of Odell is he hasn't had to
Speaker 2: put on the wear and tear the last two years
Speaker 2: I know of because two years yeah, because with the RAMS,
Speaker 2: he didn't have to go through a training camp, didn't
Speaker 2: have to go through the offseason. Everything has been to
Speaker 2: progress him health wise in the offseason. But he didn't
Speaker 2: have to put a training camp on his body. He
Speaker 2: didn't have to last year because he sat out the
Speaker 2: entire year. That is very beneficial when looking at it,
Speaker 2: because he could be in still incredible shape, like he
Speaker 2: could pop off this year again. I'm just impressed that
Speaker 2: he that his agent that they negotiated that contract the
Speaker 2: way they did, Like, kudos to him and shout out
Speaker 2: the boy. I just think it's nuts, Like, it's not
Speaker 2: not nuts. Again, if he had the market, then he
Speaker 2: had the market. But it's just interesting to see that
Speaker 2: he made that amount of money after take a year
Speaker 2: off coming off of an acl.
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Speaker 1: Did you want to talk by lsu at all? Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know your boy's rock and the uh the Fred
Speaker 2: sure right here. Your Fred's was a vibe, big shot
Speaker 2: out to frevs. Fred's a plus hosting and hospitality. The
Speaker 2: crawfish boil went up in my book. I was excited
Speaker 2: to change my mind about that. Learned how to eat
Speaker 2: crawfish a little bit better order. I guess no God
Speaker 2: reminded how to eat crawfish. It had been so long,
Speaker 2: but shout out Fred's. That was a good time. I
Speaker 2: was a good vibe. I stand I stand by what
Speaker 2: I said to the crowd too, Like Louis Anna is
Speaker 2: a different entity, like it's separated from everything else, like
Speaker 2: that thing is it's it's like its own ecosystem down there,
Speaker 2: blost I told the crowd. I was like, it's like
Speaker 2: a subway in a gas station, like you fuck with it,
Speaker 2: but you know it's not gonna pass inspection.
Speaker 1: Like that's the vibe of Louisiana.
Speaker 2: Very hospitable, good people, but you know people that that
Speaker 2: they got their certain way of going about business, which
Speaker 2: you fuck with because it's like, oh, this is how
Speaker 2: they breed, fucking these athletes down here and everything else.
Speaker 2: But you're just in the swamp, dude, you're meeting We
Speaker 2: didn't even meet swamp people like that, but we got
Speaker 2: we got to get a little look, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. But uh hey, shout out though to LSU.
Speaker 2: That was a good time. As far as were they
Speaker 2: rank on the list, I think we've established them in
Speaker 2: my opinion. I know everybody else has their own, but
Speaker 2: they are. They not even close. There's not a three
Speaker 2: out there that's close. They are number two in my book.
Speaker 2: As far as facilities and everything else goes, I think
Speaker 2: they have the number one locker room I've ever seen
Speaker 2: in my life as facilities still in Nebraska one, but
Speaker 2: I do have LSU two. And as far as hospitality,
Speaker 2: and they're people in their front office and everything. I
Speaker 2: say front office, but there are people in their offices,
Speaker 2: They took care of the boys. They were good to you,
Speaker 2: guys that were good to us. They were very hospital
Speaker 2: they took us everywhere. Let us see whatever. Coach Kelly
Speaker 2: was awesome. Although I do think he lied about the
Speaker 2: whole family accent. I think he just needs to lean
Speaker 2: into him and be like, yeah, okay, I fucked up.
Speaker 2: I tried that, I fucked up. Uh, but Lsu was
Speaker 2: fucking awesome. We're going to Colorado this week, Colorado Buffalo.
Speaker 2: We're gonna try, not try, We're.
Speaker 1: Gonna get in. We're gonna get behind in enemy.
Speaker 2: Lines, start to start to ship talking a little early
Speaker 2: to get this Colorado Nebraska game back where back where you,
Speaker 2: back where it was back in the day. Hopefully we
Speaker 2: can chirp Dion a little bit. We don't know if
Speaker 2: we're gonna get to sit with him or not, but
Speaker 2: hopefully we get to chirp him. But we gotta get that, Uh,
Speaker 2: we gotta get that rivalry going again.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be, like I said, performing in Denver that night.
Speaker 2: So if you guys want to get your tickets, that's online,
Speaker 2: get them wherever.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: It would be nice to be celebrating. It would be
Speaker 2: nice to hit a show for twenty in Colorado. You
Speaker 2: know the way they celebrate, it's a little bit different. Well,
Speaker 2: I don't know about you guys. I won't speak for
Speaker 2: you guys, but your boy, I've been banged up. You
Speaker 2: know I've been banged up before, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like one time, after I brushed my teeth, I threw
Speaker 2: my hat back on and late in bed, my wife
Speaker 2: was asked, and do you think you're going somewhere? And
Speaker 2: you're just fucking out of all sorts. But all to say,
Speaker 2: I would love to be there for four twenty with Colorado.
Speaker 1: Shout out for twenty shout out, no free shout out.
Speaker 2: And then we get the draft and then we talk
Speaker 2: about this David Bakteri episode. This baktr episode, honestly this
Speaker 2: year one of my favorites we got to hit on.
Speaker 2: We have to talk about the NFLPA, a lot of
Speaker 2: the union stuff, a lot of things with David himself
Speaker 2: that he's gone through. This man's a fourth ROWND pick,
Speaker 2: earned himself a fat bag when he got to a
Speaker 2: second contract. This a five time All Pro, a three
Speaker 2: time pro bowler, has been injury ridden the last couple
Speaker 2: of years. He tours ACL a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: and he's had It's been a roller coaster for the boys,
Speaker 2: so we obviously dive into the nuts and bolts there.
Speaker 2: Taylor and him tore their ACL on the same year,
Speaker 2: so they were able to It was fun to sit
Speaker 2: back and listen to them kind of talk through some things.
Speaker 2: But there's been headlines and articles that have been coming out.
Speaker 2: I know when I was searching and kind of doing
Speaker 2: research on Bock, you know, you see stuff that Green
Speaker 2: Bay media saying the Packers are hosting successor of David
Speaker 2: BOKTIORI like they're looking at left tackles, And I don't
Speaker 2: know how true that is, but the way the media
Speaker 2: is kind of going about the left tackle is like, hey,
Speaker 2: after this year, do you look to cut do you
Speaker 2: look to save money? Do you look to do this
Speaker 2: with bok Tari And we got into some big, good
Speaker 2: conversation about kind of that noise that goes on.
Speaker 1: You come from five years of.
Speaker 2: Being in all Pro and being a pro bowler to
Speaker 2: where you are the fucking man at Green Bay and
Speaker 2: everybody loves you.
Speaker 1: They want you to be here forever.
Speaker 2: So now you get to the back end, and you
Speaker 2: go through some injuries and you get you have some
Speaker 2: ups and downs, and you start to you know, get
Speaker 2: a little bit more hate and you kind of hear
Speaker 2: all the trips going on and now people are talking
Speaker 2: about your replacement and how does that make you feel?
Speaker 2: And he had a lot of good stuff to say,
Speaker 2: So I'm excited for you guys to listen to that episode.
Speaker 2: It's a banger and one of my favorites. Again, we
Speaker 2: talk a lot about some of the union things going
Speaker 2: on with the NFLPA, because as we know the boy Taylor,
Speaker 2: he fucking hates the NFLPA. We dive into a little
Speaker 2: bit more there, some nuts and boats with all that,
Speaker 2: but it's a good episode. Before we get to it,
Speaker 2: we will do our favorite segment of the read our
Speaker 2: shout out no free shout out bloss. Would you like
Speaker 2: to start this thing off? Guys and if you're new
Speaker 2: to the if you're new to the show, shout out
Speaker 2: no free shout out is simply you want to shout
Speaker 2: out whatever you want. A lot of the times, it's
Speaker 2: the simplicities in life that go unnoticed, that don't get
Speaker 2: talked about enough, that might go under the radar that
Speaker 2: we like to put a spotlight on or like bloss
Speaker 2: likes or do he shouts out people from the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers. You got a team you love, if you
Speaker 2: got a vibe you like, if you want to shout
Speaker 2: out somebody or something, you can do it. The shout
Speaker 2: out no free shot out segment is for whatever you
Speaker 2: want to shout out, give a little bit of praise
Speaker 2: to spotlight a little bit, Uh, Blossy, what do you
Speaker 2: have for shoutout no free shoutouts?
Speaker 1: Brother?
Speaker 6: A shout out this week goes to those people in
Speaker 6: your life or in your close circle who just puts
Speaker 6: you on all the time, whether it's putting you onto
Speaker 6: a new meal, putting you onto some new clothes, some
Speaker 6: new shoes, a new brand, or a skill in general.
Speaker 6: I've had the pleasure to have some people who are
Speaker 6: pretty skilled in the barbecue world, and they've just been
Speaker 6: coaching me and putting me on to some new styles
Speaker 6: and ways to cook. And I've been trying to trying
Speaker 6: them and implementing them into my own and uh yeah,
Speaker 6: it's been it's been a pretty uh a pretty fun ride.
Speaker 6: So my shout out no free shoutout goes to those
Speaker 6: people in your close circle who just put.
Speaker 2: You on love that that's a solid one, because that
Speaker 2: is true. Like whether it's a recipe you're talking barbecue,
Speaker 2: the grills are out, The grills are coming out, and
Speaker 2: I have to think about my shout out, but the
Speaker 2: grills are coming out right now. And anybody who puts
Speaker 2: you on a new little recipe that's you're vibing with
Speaker 2: you can't wait to take a photo back. Yo, I
Speaker 2: tried this and I fuck with it? Bro Jack, what
Speaker 2: do you got?
Speaker 3: My shout out? No free shout out goes to how
Speaker 3: do I put this in a word. It's really just
Speaker 3: like I guess, hanging with the boys, but it's more
Speaker 3: of like a traditional Friday night hanging with the boys.
Speaker 3: This past Friday night, me and a few of my
Speaker 3: friends hit up David Busters Oh, went and saw the
Speaker 3: Mario movie, and then we weren't really ready to call
Speaker 3: it a night, so we went and walked on the
Speaker 3: Operland Hotel. And if you've ever been an Opperland Hotel,
Speaker 3: or if you have, you need to go experience it
Speaker 3: because you can walk around for an hour. In the
Speaker 3: single they've got like three like atriums, like these massive
Speaker 3: fucking beautiful things, all these like wildlife and plants and
Speaker 3: like it's crazy rivers flowing through it. So we were
Speaker 3: just having a blast and it's just like giggling and
Speaker 3: like running around like feeling like you're like fifteen again,
Speaker 3: like just got dropped off by your mom at the
Speaker 3: movies and like you got like five hours to go
Speaker 3: and just like do whatever.
Speaker 1: So we were kind of like getting back to our roots.
Speaker 3: So shout out to like good quality time with the
Speaker 3: homies on a Friday night, you getting bed at a
Speaker 3: good hour, wake up fully resting, ready to go for Saturday.
Speaker 1: Love that Mitch, big head my fit? What that's the
Speaker 1: fit that you know what?
Speaker 5: Actually I'm gonna change my shout out two hats that
Speaker 5: fit because our Busting hats have not don't aren't for
Speaker 5: big headed people. And as an employee of Busting, I
Speaker 5: feel like we need to maybe expand our hat sizes
Speaker 5: a little bit because there's there's fellas out there. I'm
Speaker 5: not I'm not by myself. We've been at U like
Speaker 5: these live shows and everything. Some of these guys are like, hey,
Speaker 5: like I'm with you, Like I stand with you, my
Speaker 5: these hats.
Speaker 2: I stand with you as Mitch just sitting there like
Speaker 2: looking at him with the fucking little hat on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a rubber band just grabbing the skin. And
Speaker 1: he's like, bro, these hats do not fit me.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I've been telling people that these we need
Speaker 5: to get bigger hats, but like some of these.
Speaker 1: The I traded a dude for.
Speaker 5: A hat at LSU because the one I was wearing,
Speaker 5: uh what, it wasn't fitting as well as the one
Speaker 5: like he had, so I traded him.
Speaker 1: Shout out, shout out you, Kyle. I think your name
Speaker 1: is Steve.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but shout the hats that fit they're they're they're
Speaker 5: few and far in between. For me, it says the
Speaker 5: one size fits all. Now that's one size fits most.
Speaker 5: So shout yeah, shoutout has such.
Speaker 2: Have you ever looked into and this is for you
Speaker 2: to speak on, not not not us, but have you
Speaker 2: ever like looked up like googled. It's to help your
Speaker 2: head shrink?
Speaker 5: Not I don't think that it works like that, but
Speaker 5: I have ever No, you know, put your head is
Speaker 5: your snow stone left unturned, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like you could be a diet out
Speaker 2: there for them, big headed motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: Dude, you can shrink your waist, why not your head.
Speaker 5: Because your waist as fat. Your head is your skull.
Speaker 5: There's no fat in this is all brain. I had
Speaker 5: looked up though, and I actually got it for Christmas
Speaker 5: this past Christmas. Like hat extenders, so like the you
Speaker 5: know how, like obviously the snap backs, you can get
Speaker 5: like an extra thing, a snap back to extend it
Speaker 5: a little bit.
Speaker 2: I have those full thirty recipes for your head ketogenic
Speaker 2: diet for your brain. Oh fuck, good times. My shot
Speaker 2: on no free shot is gonna go to The vibes
Speaker 2: are high right now, and it evolves the weather. I
Speaker 2: would just shout out the weather, but I feel like
Speaker 2: that's low hanging fruit. Something that we started being able
Speaker 2: to start doing is you're able to open up the doors.
Speaker 2: You got a couple of weeks here before it starts
Speaker 2: to get too hot. Not a couple weeks, like a
Speaker 2: longer than that. But this today, right before I came here,
Speaker 2: my wife had opened up the back doors just because
Speaker 2: the lights shining and it's like the same temperature outside
Speaker 2: as it is inside, and you're just sitting on the
Speaker 2: table or working outside. But opening up the doors that
Speaker 2: I enjoy the weather. The grills are coming out, the
Speaker 2: doors are opening up, the windows are opening up, and
Speaker 2: the vibes are getting higher. That seasonal depression you might
Speaker 2: have had, it's turning around because that that breeze. And
Speaker 2: it's a light breeze right now, which makes you feel good.
Speaker 2: It's not it's not hot yet. You feel the sun
Speaker 2: and you can still get a little bit of a burn,
Speaker 2: but it's not getting it's not moist yet in the air.
Speaker 1: The bugs aren't out.
Speaker 2: And right now is that for the next few days
Speaker 2: in Nashville all week I think it's gonna be in
Speaker 2: the seventies, Sun's gonna be out.
Speaker 1: But that's my shout out. I guess fucking temperature equilibrium.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you go, temperature equilibrium, the small things that involve
Speaker 2: the sunny weather, the spring weather.
Speaker 1: All right. I just texted Taylor. He's ready whenever you are.
Speaker 2: Oh, here's what we got going on this weekend. We
Speaker 2: get to do the Arizona State Spring Game. Not only
Speaker 2: do we get to do the Arizona State Spring game,
Speaker 2: we get to coach in the Arizona State Spring Game.
Speaker 2: Taylor's gonna coach one team. I'm gonna coach the other.
Speaker 2: We get to give pregame speeches to our teams. I
Speaker 2: think we get to call one series per like rules
Speaker 2: and everything else, but we get to call a series.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get the headset. We're gonna have our get
Speaker 2: back coach. We're gonna be ready to fucking go. We're
Speaker 2: gonna be in a head coaching form trying to beat
Speaker 2: each other. Now, there's a video that's came out at
Speaker 2: Arizona State. The players have been trying to select their guy.
Speaker 2: I feel like Team Compton's the underdog right now. Everybody
Speaker 2: wants the backyard the local boy, Taylorwan. He's an az boy.
Speaker 2: But everybody's gonna pushing for Taylor right now. And I
Speaker 2: feel like, whoever we get on the squad, we're gonna
Speaker 2: get those guys with the chips on on their shoulder,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean.
Speaker 2: But what we're gonna be doing right now is we're
Speaker 2: gonna call Taylor. We're gonna get him on speaker, and
Speaker 2: we're gonna draft the back of the bus Jack JP,
Speaker 2: Garrett and Mitch to b R two. I guess assistant
Speaker 2: coaches Vrabel our stretch. We're gonna be drafting our stretch,
Speaker 2: So we're gonna get him on the phone. We're gonna
Speaker 2: flip our We're gonna flip a coin to see who
Speaker 2: gets first pick, and then we're gonna draft the guys
Speaker 2: on the back of the bus to be on the
Speaker 2: sideline with us to make content, to be our get
Speaker 2: back coach and everything else.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get Ap and Garrett in here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Gary JP, they're about to come on. Uh,
Speaker 2: they're gonna get on the bus because we don't always
Speaker 2: have the back.
Speaker 1: The boys are back there working.
Speaker 2: By the way, if you guys are tuned in right now,
Speaker 2: we dropped our L s U Our L s U
Speaker 2: Spring tour interviews with Mason Taylor, the son of Jason
Speaker 2: Taylor and nephew of Zach Thomas. He's a fucking stud man.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be really good. I didn't open
Speaker 2: that up. You just push it in. Uh freshman tight
Speaker 2: end going into second year. He's a stud. He was
Speaker 2: awesome to sit down with. We also did coach Brian Kelly.
Speaker 2: So if you want some more content, the boys got it.
Speaker 1: Come on in. Ge gosh, are under the hoods are
Speaker 1: bus scenes?
Speaker 5: Gee?
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Speaker 1: Who's gonna do the coin toss? We need to get
Speaker 1: we need to get together on the phone. Are you
Speaker 1: gonna do it? Or do you want me to?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I can do it?
Speaker 7: Say that so much?
Speaker 1: This is big. I can't wait. You can't wait for
Speaker 1: the draft? Why is that you guys are picking? Yeah?
Speaker 1: The boy? Hey you are uh, you're tuned into the bus? JP, JP.
Speaker 2: What we have here, JP is gonna do a coin toss.
Speaker 2: It's gonna land on the middle table. You do you
Speaker 2: want to call it? You want me to call it?
Speaker 1: You go ahead and call it is. JP shows the
Speaker 1: camera that there's both and tails. Yeah, okay, So which one?
Speaker 1: Silver and blue? You want me on the middle camera? Silverside?
Speaker 1: Blue side? All right, there's a silver side and a
Speaker 1: blue side. Flip it and let it lane on the table.
Speaker 2: Flip and let it lane on the table. Tailor My
Speaker 2: hands are sweating right now.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I've never seen catching flip.
Speaker 8: I'm stressed out here here, but here's what I feel
Speaker 8: good about.
Speaker 1: Regardless, I feel like we'll both have great teams. So
Speaker 1: Who's Who's Silver? Are you? Blue? Taylor? Silver?
Speaker 9: Will is calling it?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll go I'm gonna catch it. I'll go with Blue.
Speaker 1: I'll go with Blue. You're gonna catch and flip? Yeah, flip?
Speaker 2: All right here, I should hold the mic because all
Speaker 2: right here he's about to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Ready, it's up in the air. It's flipped on
Speaker 1: the hand, Blue, Blue. I won I want I get
Speaker 1: first pick. M I'm not there, huh, I know.
Speaker 2: But fortunately we have it on camera. You'll be able
Speaker 2: to tune in Busting YouTube channel. My first pick of
Speaker 2: the Arizona State Spring game, brought to you by Busting
Speaker 2: with the Boys, is going.
Speaker 1: To be JP Hovey. It's a lot, bro, it is
Speaker 1: a lock. Hey, I got your jersey, may at the
Speaker 1: one you're gonna hold up the one first rounder? Which
Speaker 1: team are we? I don't know? Do you guys know
Speaker 1: what our teams are?
Speaker 9: You?
Speaker 2: Taylor and I have a phone call today with the
Speaker 2: with the guy at Arizona SE so we're gonna kind
Speaker 2: of get privy to everything. Yeah, all right, Taylor, you
Speaker 2: were on the clock. We should We'll give you. We'll
Speaker 2: give you thirty seconds. We'll give you thirty seconds starting.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 8: A lot of teams want to take the time to
Speaker 8: get the advertisement where I have all the people talk
Speaker 8: about their guys, their tea as I go into the draft.
Speaker 1: Oh may it easy.
Speaker 8: My first pick of the as U Spring Game is
Speaker 8: going to be mister Jack McPherson.
Speaker 2: Nice Jack, congratulations brother, thank you for the opportunity. Here's
Speaker 2: the question, and look, there's no wrong answer here. You
Speaker 2: guys can say it out loud. But are we doing
Speaker 2: snake or do I get to go again?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 2: Does Taylor get two and three? Since I got one?
Speaker 1: Oh? Which one? Snake? Snake? Why did you say something?
Speaker 1: If you're gonna be mad?
Speaker 2: Well, I had to bring it up because I had
Speaker 2: to figure out if Taylor is gonna start speaking up again. Taylor,
Speaker 2: you get the The boys think it's fair to only
Speaker 2: do snake drafts, so you get to pick the You
Speaker 2: get to go first this time.
Speaker 1: Simple, simple, all right.
Speaker 8: My second pick and final pick of the AC Spring
Speaker 8: Game draft, brought to you by bustling with the boys,
Speaker 8: is going to go to.
Speaker 1: Here at Hargast. Very stay boys. Hey, Mitch, Hey, we're
Speaker 1: happy to have you on the squad. It's an honor.
Speaker 2: You got a chip on your shoulder, Mitch. You gotta
Speaker 2: chip on your Yes, I know you are all right.
Speaker 2: That settles it.
Speaker 1: We're in good shape. Yeah, we're in sallid shape.
Speaker 2: Team Compton, it's Hovey and Carsley, Carsly right, and then
Speaker 2: for team Lawan McPherson and Harges.
Speaker 9: He's trying to get in there early, trying to get
Speaker 9: in the head early.
Speaker 1: Don't let him. Yeah, don't worry, don't even pay attention
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 2: Uh, Taylor, do you have anything you'd like to say?
Speaker 2: You have the floor.
Speaker 8: Uh, just I'm excited I got the team that I wanted.
Speaker 8: Both those guys are one and two on my draft board.
Speaker 8: And uh, being able to see Garrett Fall in that
Speaker 8: draft and Jack Fall and my draft really played it
Speaker 8: in my hand.
Speaker 1: Knowing that the two of them own they are individually.
Speaker 8: Outstanding competitors, but are also as a duo unstoppable.
Speaker 1: Amen. Amen, A lot like a Chevy Chevy Silverado.
Speaker 2: I'm with say, all right, brother, thank you I hope
Speaker 2: you're enjoying the vibes and views in Canada right now.
Speaker 1: We all love you and we miss you. I can't
Speaker 1: wait to see you instead a few coaches in Colorado,
Speaker 1: all right, see your brother.
Speaker 4: Hey, it is sad. Then we're gonna have to embarrass
Speaker 4: him in his home state.
Speaker 1: That's all right. Hey, you don't ever want to do
Speaker 1: that to somebody, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just really hope the ASU comes through
Speaker 3: with some elite coaching gear for us to be wearing.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I need a I need a call sheet, and
Speaker 9: we're gonna go. We gotta go to Dick's Boys, right
Speaker 9: or academy, yeah.
Speaker 4: Or already have a lot. Just to put that out,
Speaker 4: all right, I'm excited. Man.
Speaker 1: He feels good.
Speaker 2: He feels like he got the team he wanted. I
Speaker 2: actually this is the team I wanted.
Speaker 1: Oh damn weed, that's where we shout it. Maybe call
Speaker 1: him back.
Speaker 3: I think we need to put a little bit of
Speaker 3: a wager on this something. We'll figure it out in
Speaker 3: the group chat, all right. It doesn't mean it could
Speaker 3: be something funny, you know.
Speaker 2: Right right, that's what it takes him thinking about, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, let's think about let's not
Speaker 2: make an emotional.
Speaker 1: We record the text conversation and put it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we can come up with something.
Speaker 3: Definitely, something needs to be on the board.
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, without further ado, here's David Baktiari, Episode
Speaker 2: two fifteen. We talk about the injury stuff. I can't
Speaker 2: remember Aaron Rodgers. We cover a lot of stuff, but
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Speaker 2: the boys, big hugs, tiny kisses.
Speaker 9: He's probably got a piece of go get that.
Speaker 1: We're rolling. We're rolling. Yeah, you you've been a lot
Speaker 1: of You've been a lot wrong with him.
Speaker 9: It doesn't match the feed, doesn't match the hands.
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 9: You're a short guy for the man who has nothing
Speaker 9: to hide, but he still wants to.
Speaker 1: He showers and shorts.
Speaker 10: No, he's the guy like, uh, you go pick a
Speaker 10: corner and of going to what was I think I
Speaker 10: told you has just the last time I was in there,
Speaker 10: like my first weekend play was like dude, go shower
Speaker 10: next to air and I'm like fuck it, Like I
Speaker 10: go pull it, go turn on the thing, immediately turns
Speaker 10: it off and like looked at me and I'm like, well,
Speaker 10: do you want to share the same shower head?
Speaker 1: And he's like, get away from him.
Speaker 9: Oh oh, he doesn't let anybody shower next to him.
Speaker 9: That No, we had no like he knew me maybe
Speaker 9: for like a week. That's what I'm saying, Like it
Speaker 9: wasn't the chemistry. Now we know each other.
Speaker 1: Now you're getting them golf card. Yeah that was that
Speaker 1: was completely different. But now show the same shower head. No,
Speaker 1: they don't.
Speaker 10: They have Unfortunately certain guys like that, Like I'm the
Speaker 10: type of dude that there's I look at.
Speaker 1: There's like three types of like shower people.
Speaker 10: The guy comes in with the towel and puts it
Speaker 10: over the shower head, showers meally takes it off.
Speaker 1: Yet no way of seeing.
Speaker 10: And then uh two is you have the guy that
Speaker 10: doesn't even go in with a towel.
Speaker 1: That's me.
Speaker 10: I go in and come out. I own what I got.
Speaker 10: Nothing like it. There's no Godzilla hanging out.
Speaker 1: That's just what I'm me.
Speaker 10: I'm proud that much as yours and working white guy
Speaker 10: that's gonna come in and check in and check out
Speaker 10: and he's gonna get a good good work, good good
Speaker 10: days working. And then the number three is the dude
Speaker 10: that just he takes a towel and puts it kind
Speaker 10: of over his blaye button.
Speaker 1: Yeah are you? Are you guys bully button? Depends on
Speaker 1: how fat I am. If it's this that's so weird,
Speaker 1: I don't get that. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 9: There's a couple other guys you're missing you even he
Speaker 9: brought it up with Aaron. The guy that showers in
Speaker 9: the corner and doesn't let you see anything the whole time.
Speaker 9: If he's rubbing his shoulder, he's got one over his parts.
Speaker 9: Those are the guys I trust the least in the
Speaker 9: locker room. If you're not gonna let me look at
Speaker 9: that thing, or not look at it eye to eye,
Speaker 9: but catch a pariff on it, Yeah, you've either got
Speaker 9: something fucked up with you or you're holding something in here.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 9: That's That's just how I look at it. The other guy,
Speaker 9: and this is a very rare breed of individual. The
Speaker 9: individual that comes in the towel long ways tucked in
Speaker 9: the armpits and drapes over the front and in the back.
Speaker 9: I've ever seen that. Kendall Lamb, he was what he
Speaker 9: takes the towel, tucks it here, tucks it here, and
Speaker 9: it drapes long way. But cheeks are out in the back.
Speaker 9: He must have them titties, Yeah, but when he sits
Speaker 9: down he kind of lets the titties hang out. But
Speaker 9: he was also a no piece show guy. I like
Speaker 9: Kende Lamb, but I'm also I saw that and that
Speaker 9: did throw me off big time.
Speaker 1: What kind of guy?
Speaker 2: I'm like a mix of what you said, Like I
Speaker 2: bring the talent just because the talle acxass, Like I
Speaker 2: just don't want to walk like I'm I don't wear
Speaker 2: the slides. I go in, I more so put the thing.
Speaker 2: I more so put the talent. And then I face
Speaker 2: you slides. No, I don't wear slides.
Speaker 1: I for that lose.
Speaker 9: You gotta dash or something else. We you got the
Speaker 9: Caucasians out here. Next time you're in the locker room
Speaker 9: and you're in the shower, Look all the black guys.
Speaker 9: They got the flops on. They're literally putting one leg.
Speaker 4: Explain.
Speaker 1: Can I explain?
Speaker 9: Can I explain why I'm not as much a slide
Speaker 9: guy because I'll wear the slides everywhere, so when I
Speaker 9: shower in them and they get wet, I gotta, like,
Speaker 9: I gotta do extra and dry them off after I
Speaker 9: get done. Multiple in my locker, I got multiple. I
Speaker 9: have literally shower slides specifically for shower. That's what I'm
Speaker 9: saying right now.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, I guess you know what if
Speaker 10: I'm buying extra slides, yep, I got money, then no,
Speaker 10: I I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't stand the uh. I'm just let you know.
Speaker 2: That's that's why I do it. That's why I would
Speaker 2: do it. Like sometimes I'll go slides in.
Speaker 9: But if I'm feeling like extra lazy, which is why
Speaker 9: I do the towel thing, I.
Speaker 10: Get it, trust me, Like I get the If you
Speaker 10: have a one pair of slides, yeah, I'm definitely thinking
Speaker 10: it over. And that's why throughout my ears, I'm like,
Speaker 10: I'm getting multiple slides, one specifically for showering because I
Speaker 10: can't the thought of like have I shower without sandals
Speaker 10: on or slides mean on? Yes, But here's the other question.
Speaker 10: Have you ever gotten to the bathroom without slides on?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 9: Guys me, maybe rarely. I can't think of anything, but
Speaker 9: I can't say I never have. You know, I'm definitely try, Like,
Speaker 9: trust I won't do the same thing. It's truly the
Speaker 9: wet slide thing. Like I'll get in.
Speaker 2: Once I drop at the locker, I'll throw my towel
Speaker 2: on the slides and the stomp on and move it around.
Speaker 2: But then when I gotta sit down and then I
Speaker 2: gotta go up and the slide, then I'm like, ah,
Speaker 2: let me just because it doesn't matter, like I'm gonna
Speaker 2: wash my feet and stuff, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But I also faced the boys, like in Washington, my
Speaker 2: nickname was Shrimp. Oh, there goes shrimp there.
Speaker 1: Actually it was it was dumbbar Duney And he would
Speaker 1: be like, there go scrill. What do they call you shrimp?
Speaker 1: Come on? Oh okay, I mean to take Yeah, it is,
Speaker 1: but that.
Speaker 9: I always give a little, a little movement, pull on
Speaker 9: a little bit before I walked in.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 9: You do the first couple of weeks of OTAs, and
Speaker 9: you guys are normalize that because everyone doesn't one wants
Speaker 9: to talk about it.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you bringing.
Speaker 9: That a little bit because you don't want hard because
Speaker 9: you're in spandex and so I know.
Speaker 1: You want to do a little an extra trick.
Speaker 9: This is this is game now, So listen up fucking
Speaker 9: as you're pulling on your little piece, push up on
Speaker 9: the balls. Get those guys like this a little bit like,
Speaker 9: oh shit, are we in trouble? And then you fucking
Speaker 9: and that thing. I'm just saying, it's a while. The
Speaker 9: showering in the locker room is a unique thing. You
Speaker 9: learn a lot about a lot of people there. But
Speaker 9: there is massive differences between black guys.
Speaker 1: And white Okay. I was literally like, you know, before.
Speaker 9: We even go to that category, I want to say
Speaker 9: my piece on the on the showering on barefoot.
Speaker 1: I'm a barefoot bawler.
Speaker 9: I if I don't have to wear shoes or socks,
Speaker 9: I will not wear shoes and socks.
Speaker 1: Do I go in there?
Speaker 10: Because what you're saying and socks like like all day?
Speaker 10: Or are you saying if I could be barefoot all day? Well,
Speaker 10: he'll be like a barefoot guy. All I want get
Speaker 10: a barefoot guy around. I don't want to get fucking
Speaker 10: athletes foot. But you're a big barefoot guy around work.
Speaker 10: Oh like, I'll wear sandals. I'll take my shoes off
Speaker 10: anytime I can in meetings, like I'm not just gonna
Speaker 10: coop my feet up with socks and shoes.
Speaker 2: I'm like that, what's the difference of going in the
Speaker 2: shower where there's spe and everything else, But you're doing
Speaker 2: it around.
Speaker 10: The literally you're showering off dirt and disgusting grime. And
Speaker 10: I know all the other teammates, I don't trust any
Speaker 10: of them. And they're walking with their feet and have
Speaker 10: you seen the bums some of your friends, your teammates feet, Yeah, crusty.
Speaker 9: That's why I'm like, Nope, I'm not. I'm not dealing
Speaker 9: with that, But that is for you to have. I'm
Speaker 9: gonna keep it with you.
Speaker 1: I feel you.
Speaker 2: Everybody's get thrown. That's probably and the whole You and
Speaker 2: Aaron like, not you and Aaron. But it sounds like
Speaker 2: the packers got a bit of a shower deal in
Speaker 2: the locker room, where you guys don't.
Speaker 1: That's probably why you guys haven't won. Yeah, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I hope that was the reason. Yeah, I love the
Speaker 1: shower more together more. I got no problem with that.
Speaker 1: That'd be a good camaraderie deal. Here'd be a nice deal.
Speaker 10: The last thing before I know you. You may want to.
Speaker 1: Move off the subject, but I'll stay as long as
Speaker 1: you want. Good okay, all right, what is the how
Speaker 1: do I say this? You're safe?
Speaker 2: This is no I'm know I do feel very safe,
Speaker 2: but like I'm trying to make sure I don't sound
Speaker 2: like an idiot. The Oh, that's what you're trying to do.
Speaker 1: We call it meat gazing.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we're here's the thing gazers there. Like you said,
Speaker 10: the peripheral. I respect that, that's natural, fully cool with that.
Speaker 10: Then there's the meat gazers. Like when I'm literally talking
Speaker 10: to you and I met guys that are asking me
Speaker 10: like about the end of the day, and then they
Speaker 10: keep talking, they go right back up. I'm like, so
Speaker 10: that was not tasteful. That was actually very violated. I
Speaker 10: feel about violating, and now I feel violated therefore, like
Speaker 10: I want to end this conversation quickly, especially because I
Speaker 10: told you I'm I'm not a towel guy. I go
Speaker 10: in a shower, I come out. If you're gonna check
Speaker 10: it from the priff that that's your choice. Don't let
Speaker 10: me catch you looking out.
Speaker 9: Like when we're having a big conversation, I see you
Speaker 9: just drop down, keep going and then come back up
Speaker 9: and be like, so, yeah, what do you think on
Speaker 9: that one?
Speaker 10: On one right, there was that all of you to do.
Speaker 10: I'm like, easy, I'm not going to drop names because
Speaker 10: I feel bad, Vince.
Speaker 1: Bagele, but it makes you feel it makes you feel vulnerable. Man.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, there's a couple of guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: like we have.
Speaker 10: I just I don't think it like I would be
Speaker 10: lying if I said I never saw another teammates meat.
Speaker 1: But on the same end, you mean you'd be lying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you'd be lying to me. Everybody's checked them. I agree.
Speaker 10: I'm just saying it annoys me when there's like, ah,
Speaker 10: I never I don't check them, like, okay, bullshit the
Speaker 10: peripheral I agree with that.
Speaker 1: That's why I wanted.
Speaker 10: I want to leave it open, like for talking, like,
Speaker 10: I want to leave this as a as a we
Speaker 10: can talk about.
Speaker 1: But the meat gazing I actually do have a problem with.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I can get on board with that. I think
Speaker 9: it's meaning if they read you're saying, if they look
Speaker 9: at it and I'm talking to you and I blatantly
Speaker 9: look down at have come right back out. It's like
Speaker 9: if I'm walking by catching eyes and I see in
Speaker 9: the periff and the BOMBM like you should be good
Speaker 9: enough to like that.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 9: Yeah, unless you get unless you got a monster. If
Speaker 9: you had a monster, it's a different deal. You can't
Speaker 9: hell then you get. You know, you're making the other
Speaker 9: person uncomfortable. Because when we were when I was on
Speaker 9: Tennessee my first time around, we just a walk through
Speaker 9: on it was a Saturday practice. We were doing a
Speaker 9: walk through before we traveled, and I would walk up
Speaker 9: and down the sideline basically and poll guys like if
Speaker 9: they admitted to meat peaking in the shower, and it.
Speaker 2: Was probably a good seventy thirty. There were a couple guys, Oh, no,
Speaker 2: compe that's gay. Like I'm like, all right, bro, Like
Speaker 2: I know, like we all know we've caught each other
Speaker 2: in our periffs. But I would go up and down
Speaker 2: the sideline and ask guys like, hey, be honest. It
Speaker 2: would be me and dB Darren Bates, and we'd just
Speaker 2: be like, hey, be honest with us, Like we're trying
Speaker 2: to pull everybody. We feel like it'll be more fifty
Speaker 2: to fifty, but we want to give guys the chance
Speaker 2: to admit it if they have, Like have you meet
Speaker 2: peak before, like caught periffs, gays in the shower, anything,
Speaker 2: But the majority of guys did say yes.
Speaker 9: They felt comfortable enough, like we're comfortable with you enough
Speaker 9: to say yeah. Maybe if you're in the middle of
Speaker 9: a conversation with somebody and you look down, then back
Speaker 9: up right, Okay, that's not all right. But someone's across
Speaker 9: the room you catch a peak on accident, that's all right.
Speaker 9: You're just appreciating God's gifts. You're just appreciating my The
Speaker 9: thing I always struggle with that I literally have to
Speaker 9: call myself out on is if I'm like drying off,
Speaker 9: I'm down here, I go to.
Speaker 1: Look up, I just catch eye to eye with it.
Speaker 9: That's when I gotta say, hey, brother, like you got
Speaker 9: to turn around when I'm doing this, so because I
Speaker 9: just looked right at your piece, and I gotta like
Speaker 9: cattle on myself.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, because that's always or.
Speaker 2: It's just like yeah, and they're working with something and
Speaker 2: he's like, bro, come on man, like you know, like
Speaker 2: please cover it.
Speaker 9: I've said this before, Like there's a guy at Michigan
Speaker 9: his name was ap I believe, big head Mitch, and
Speaker 9: but this dude, when his locker was near mine and
Speaker 9: that piece was like the size of that whistle, pig,
Speaker 9: whiskey bottle. That thing stroked down into the right It
Speaker 9: was the most terrifying thing I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 9: It was that bottle you're picking up right now, you
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying. It was something else, bro, So
Speaker 9: I told him I had to let him know, Hey,
Speaker 9: good for you. He had a girlfriend that literally would
Speaker 9: brag about I'm the only girl to ever take all
Speaker 9: of it now. I literally pulled it to the side
Speaker 9: at a party one time. I was like, you gotta
Speaker 9: stop telling people that. Yeah, like, it's not that's not
Speaker 9: something to be proud of. You gotta see you gotta
Speaker 9: lie say. I could barely take the tip. That's what
Speaker 9: you gotta do. But anyway, yeah, I guess so ten
Speaker 9: minutes in boys.
Speaker 1: Good pot. That's a big dick conversation right there. Ten
Speaker 1: minutes straight penis conversation. Have you gotten tired of being
Speaker 1: asked about Aaron Rodgers? I mean, it depends on who
Speaker 1: it is. No, it hasn't. Hasn't really hasn't.
Speaker 10: I mean it's been like that like my whole career,
Speaker 10: like everyone the last four or five years. If any
Speaker 10: one thing, it's it's another type thing with him, So, uh,
Speaker 10: kudos to him. He's definitely like a he's being talked
Speaker 10: about very mysterious. I think he kind of likes that.
Speaker 10: But I mean, honestly, he's been kind of chill as
Speaker 10: of late. He's a jet now sits to the desk problem.
Speaker 1: So is he officially a jet? No, but I mean
Speaker 1: he's gonna.
Speaker 9: Be like, allegedly, what are they else is gonna have? Well,
Speaker 9: it's weird because if you're the Packers, what are you
Speaker 9: gonna ask for Aaron? He's he's older, he's on the
Speaker 9: background of his career. He could literally every like plus
Speaker 9: three years have been like is he retiring?
Speaker 1: What's he doing? What?
Speaker 9: What's the deal? And so he can literally go play
Speaker 9: for the Jest for one year and then retire. Is
Speaker 9: that worth a first round pick? It doesn't like, but
Speaker 9: what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: I almost feel like Aaron has the leverage because if
Speaker 2: the Packers don't deal him, he could.
Speaker 1: Just he's got He's got it, he's got it all.
Speaker 2: He can just not show up. He can literally hold
Speaker 2: you hostage. He's got the leverage. And I feel like
Speaker 2: that's how that's how I feel about it.
Speaker 10: Or option three, Yeah, tell US host three Again, I'm
Speaker 10: not being a homer. They're just thinking about the situations.
Speaker 10: Just hear it out is the Packers are rebuilding, whether
Speaker 10: you think so or not.
Speaker 1: They don't like they could they be good? I don't know,
Speaker 1: could they be bad?
Speaker 10: Probably if you're betting or people are gonna think they're
Speaker 10: gonna be bad, then good, right, not fair to say so.
Speaker 10: Then they'll be like, well, we're gonna suck anyways. We won't,
Speaker 10: we want and we're not gonna bend anyone. So we'll
Speaker 10: just eat it. You can stay, sell and retire, will
Speaker 10: pay you. We don't care because we're gonna if we're
Speaker 10: gonna do it our way, it's gonna be on our terms.
Speaker 10: If not, what do we We're we're gonna be super
Speaker 10: Bowl contenders anyway, So we'll eat it. You can hang
Speaker 10: on the side. We'll pay your money and then we'll
Speaker 10: suck anyways. Get the picks as compared to dealing him,
Speaker 10: but just something that you shouldn't have you look at.
Speaker 10: You could potentially look like an idiot to not only
Speaker 10: president on the board, but everyone else around league.
Speaker 1: They get him.
Speaker 10: The GM's perspective, put yourself on the hot seat and
Speaker 10: then potentially you know, have your job come call to question.
Speaker 10: So I look at all these like ways you can
Speaker 10: you can deal it. I don't think you'd get that contentious.
Speaker 10: I do think they'll probably come in an agreement. He'll
Speaker 10: get traded, They'll get what they want, and then I
Speaker 10: will probably say whether it was who won, who won what.
Speaker 10: But I'm saying there, I do think that could be
Speaker 10: a third option if things got so right. I know
Speaker 10: we want this and that's it because we know we're
Speaker 10: gonna get him, like.
Speaker 1: Okay, well somewhere else. Well, because what were you thinking?
Speaker 9: I think they're they just say known Aaron still plays
Speaker 9: for the Packers next year, which I think is not happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't. I can't see. I think that I
Speaker 1: think that has officially probably been his rest.
Speaker 10: I think they gave the keys to Jordan said that
Speaker 10: I was going to say, something you want to do
Speaker 10: is like I was.
Speaker 2: Gonna say, you say, suck. It's like they want to
Speaker 2: move forward with Jordan Loves. Somebody the draft in the
Speaker 2: first round probably feel good about. It's like, you never
Speaker 2: know either way. They want to move forward with Jordan Love.
Speaker 1: So it's the history with the Packers.
Speaker 9: I mean when Aaron came in far that whole thing
Speaker 9: was essentially the same situation.
Speaker 1: It's crazy the entering of Aaron.
Speaker 10: The entering of Aaron ended the Packers organization very like
Speaker 10: it eerie, similar to how Jordan is and same with
Speaker 10: the exit of himself. Very ears similar to Brett. It's
Speaker 10: like kind of weird how time is? Yeah, tim a
Speaker 10: circle history repeats there exactly so again, like I said,
Speaker 10: I don't know, could could the package are really good?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 10: I certainly would love that and hope so. But also
Speaker 10: I'd be ignorant to say that is this look like
Speaker 10: a rebuild?
Speaker 2: Probably the Packers probably won't eat it, though they'll probably
Speaker 2: take whatever the best deal they can actually, but.
Speaker 10: If they feel like they're getting like out of it,
Speaker 10: like I think there's a principal aspect to it, if
Speaker 10: you feel like you're gonna get fucked over so much
Speaker 10: where you're like, you know, what, screw it? Were we
Speaker 10: gonna go to the super Bowl And everyone was saying
Speaker 10: we probably weren't anyway, So fuck it.
Speaker 1: We'll hold on to him, eat it.
Speaker 10: Our cap will make the cap, which I think they're
Speaker 10: in position to take on his full salary because obviously
Speaker 10: they wouldn't want to like show their hand and then
Speaker 10: just be like, okay, fine, man, we know we're not
Speaker 10: going to use you. We appreciate everything you're doing, like
Speaker 10: fuck you to the other teams aren't giving us what
Speaker 10: we want. We're not gonna just give you whatever you want, Aaron,
Speaker 10: Because so I can see it all going in different ways,
Speaker 10: cause I see Aaron's leverage.
Speaker 1: I see the Jets leverage. I see the Packers left.
Speaker 10: Like it's fun to talk about it is, But I
Speaker 10: mean I think the thrown Yeah, I think the most
Speaker 10: simple thing is going to be they'll get whatever picks
Speaker 10: that they really wanted, obviously, right, they'll come down, it'll
Speaker 10: come before the draft, they'll get it, they'll use it,
Speaker 10: and then time's gonna show us.
Speaker 2: Because even that leverage, as you're talking about with the Packers,
Speaker 2: like just that ability to be like, hey we can,
Speaker 2: we can, we cannot do anything, and we're we're prepared
Speaker 2: to do that if you can walk away, like that's
Speaker 2: the strongest kind of leverage the half so at least
Speaker 2: you'll still get much.
Speaker 9: Did you see an organization doing that? I don't so like,
Speaker 9: but that but that tactic will will get you some more.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, like it's a time come like there's
Speaker 10: so many people that have to agree on it because
Speaker 10: there isn't like an owner. But if you're an owner
Speaker 10: and you feel jaded by a guy and like slided
Speaker 10: by him, like you see certain big name guys get
Speaker 10: like like Odell felt very slide from the giants, and
Speaker 10: they have known to be like you know, if you
Speaker 10: were gonna send you like basically like where careers go
Speaker 10: to that, we're going at the time.
Speaker 9: Go to that before things really changed until has changed
Speaker 9: Cleveland as every off season they're the super Bowl winners.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It's very true. The
Speaker 1: only person's careers that's not dying there is who's.
Speaker 9: The freak Miles Garrett Garrett do that guy's He's just
Speaker 9: a fucking Yeah. It's just one freak, one horny guy
Speaker 9: and a bunch of dudes doing their best doing. But
Speaker 9: you're right, there's some personal that gets involved, but it's
Speaker 9: always still it's still thought out of a way to
Speaker 9: where you make something shake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean like if you want to Aaron has
Speaker 9: all the leverage thing. Yeah, I'm again like Aaron's my guy.
Speaker 10: I totally like I would absolutely be on the side
Speaker 10: with that, But like I look at the whole situation, like, Okay,
Speaker 10: I see probably where the packers are posturing, see where
Speaker 10: the Jets are prospering. I see where Aaron's posturing, and
Speaker 10: like what take out all the bias, like what really
Speaker 10: could happen? Like go look at try and gather as
Speaker 10: much information and go look at what's what's plausible. Ackers
Speaker 10: obviously feel this way is probably why they're sitting standing
Speaker 10: on what they're standing on. Aaron obviously probably going on
Speaker 10: saying the things he said because the leverage he has,
Speaker 10: which we all see, and then obviously with the Jets,
Speaker 10: so given me interesting, I think, uh, I'm gonna sit
Speaker 10: back and just watch. That's when people come and ask me.
Speaker 10: I'm like, dude, yeah, so I'm like this is good TV,
Speaker 10: Like yeah, yeah, gets good. I can just shop talk
Speaker 10: Aaron about the entire time whenever I want, Like this
Speaker 10: is funny, Like from a personal.
Speaker 9: Standpoint, though, it's got to hurt a little bit, like
Speaker 9: it's the changing of the tides. Yeah, I mean that
Speaker 9: is one of your best It seems like you guys
Speaker 9: are incredibly close.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, one, yes, but like two, we can relate
Speaker 1: on this, like.
Speaker 10: It's look look at our careers, like things come, things go,
Speaker 10: things happen. I'm sure in your like timing uh with
Speaker 10: the Titans, like you saw your homies that were there,
Speaker 10: and then your homie started getting getting cut and getting
Speaker 10: really skys you thought were untouchable start getting cut, and
Speaker 10: then you realize, like you know what, it's not a
Speaker 10: matter of if, it's a matter of when.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Though, when I started accepting that like years ago, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 10: I mean Aaron, who's like, of course you think the
Speaker 10: most untouchable person, Like I know it's gonna happen at
Speaker 10: some point. I'm like, dude, go get yours if you
Speaker 10: want to go somewhere, Like I will never be jaded
Speaker 10: by your business decision because I always care more about
Speaker 10: Aaron than I do about twelve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like for the grim Bay Packers, So go go.
Speaker 1: That's a nice quote.
Speaker 10: Go go do your thing, man, Like I'm I'm cool that,
Speaker 10: And I've said that to Trailer, thank you. I've said
Speaker 10: that to like all my teammates once I understood it
Speaker 10: back in like I think when Josh sitting got cut
Speaker 10: for me. That was my like, holy shit, Joshing was
Speaker 10: my left guard.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you guys had a nice little room. It seemed
Speaker 9: like you guys seem super close back then.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we were, like honestly we had That was probably
Speaker 10: like when someone says like the good old days, like
Speaker 10: you wish you knew when you're in the good old quote.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was that.
Speaker 9: I mean that I would say in my tenure like
Speaker 9: that was the closest like that room has been like.
Speaker 1: Just a bunch of studs. Fun. Uh.
Speaker 10: But yeah, Like once I saw guys getting cut and
Speaker 10: getting chopped during that era, I was like, Okay, so
Speaker 10: I mean it happens, dude. So I've always told like
Speaker 10: any guy, I even told Corey, I'm like, dude, go
Speaker 10: get yours. I would never be jaded if you I'd
Speaker 10: be more jaded if you took less money because you
Speaker 10: thought that like, oh I gotta be with my guys
Speaker 10: and not take care of yourself.
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna like you.
Speaker 10: No matter what I said to DeVante, I said to Corey,
Speaker 10: I've said it to even Elton coming up. I'm like,
Speaker 10: go do what's best for you, don't think about take
Speaker 10: your motion or like friendship stuff out of it, like
Speaker 10: this is a business.
Speaker 2: So it's so hard though, man, because football is so
Speaker 2: built around team, the boys in sacrifice and selflessness and
Speaker 2: like yeah the boys.
Speaker 1: Man, it's so built around that. It's so ingrained in you.
Speaker 2: And even when you have your team, like your ninety
Speaker 2: man roster, you're kind of going through the offseason some
Speaker 2: of the guys know who's gonna be there and who's not.
Speaker 2: Then in training camp you develop the coaches, all coaches,
Speaker 2: the whole organization preaches giving up and sacrificing for the logo.
Speaker 2: But the minute the season ends, the logo is gonna
Speaker 2: do whatever is best for the logo. And every player
Speaker 2: is essentially a contractor and every player has to operate
Speaker 2: in an individual type of manner. And it's hard because
Speaker 2: you create such a strong bond, great such a strong bond.
Speaker 2: It's like when you go to the AFC Championship, you
Speaker 2: make it that far, you go to the playoffs, like
Speaker 2: the you were yeah you've been in leads to a
Speaker 2: certain things. So the year you guys beat us in
Speaker 2: the Waldcard in Washington, but the moment like after it
Speaker 2: gets done and you lose in the playoffs. You just think,
Speaker 2: especially when you're young, like oh, we'll be back next year.
Speaker 2: You think it's the same guys. You have the same
Speaker 2: conversations talking to like Deshaun Golson and Jason Hasher and
Speaker 2: the guys that are on our defense, Like hey, what
Speaker 2: are they saying to you? Because you think we're all
Speaker 2: kind of working together, like they're gonna work the you hear,
Speaker 2: And then when you realize they don't come back or nothing,
Speaker 2: you're just thinking like, ah, right, so are we trying
Speaker 2: to keep the squad together or not? And then you
Speaker 2: because you're so brain you're just ignorant and naive to it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And then when it starts happening, it's like it's like tough.
Speaker 2: It's like damn, Like this is how it just changed.
Speaker 2: Then I go to Tennessee and it's a new group
Speaker 2: and you're just like, man.
Speaker 1: This is just kind of the business that is the NFL.
Speaker 1: The biggest shock in the NFL for me was that
Speaker 1: first cut.
Speaker 9: At the first like everyone's in camp, you're sitting there
Speaker 9: in meetings, coaches are preaching we're a family or a family,
Speaker 9: and then like like week three because they did two
Speaker 9: cuts back then week three of the preseason. They'd be like,
Speaker 9: all right, guys, after this game, like we're gonna have
Speaker 9: to get It's just the name of the game.
Speaker 1: It's the business. And you're thinking, like, hey, we're a
Speaker 1: family though.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and you see dudes getting cut in that first
Speaker 9: cut that you as a rookie you don't know, but
Speaker 9: like now looking back here, like yeah, obviously that guy
Speaker 9: had to go. But watching dudes just be like, hey, man,
Speaker 9: good luck. Some dudes are taking it like they've been
Speaker 9: in the game for a while so they didn't know
Speaker 9: and they did this stap you up and say hey,
Speaker 9: we'll see. And there's other dudes that are like usually
Speaker 9: rookies are like second, your guys are like falling their
Speaker 9: eyes out. They think their dreams over and it's like
Speaker 9: the most shell shocking experience, bro, going through that. You're like,
Speaker 9: my god, watching it and being able to see one
Speaker 9: hundred percent turnover too. It's like, dude, you just watching
Speaker 9: everybody so yeah, see see I mean how many times
Speaker 9: you've seen your locker room turnover? Because I mean you
Speaker 9: were a Tennessee for a long time. Yeah, we dude,
Speaker 9: I was lucky because after my second year, I think
Speaker 9: everybody I played with was gone and those the line
Speaker 9: room in the old line room, and then Ben Jones
Speaker 9: came in. Then Josh Klein came in. Then Jack Conklin
Speaker 9: got drafted, and then Quentin's spain was he was an
Speaker 9: undrafted guy that came in. And then we me and
Speaker 9: Ben especially, we rode together for seven years straight. And
Speaker 9: that was like Ben and I were like really like
Speaker 9: the nucleus of that group. And once we like figured
Speaker 9: out what we wanted our group to be like and
Speaker 9: how we all meshed, it was like a plug and
Speaker 9: play situation. Guys would come in and they'd see how
Speaker 9: things are and they would just gel to it right away.
Speaker 9: We had people have left and come back or told
Speaker 9: us like it was a it was an amazing room.
Speaker 1: It really was. And that's where I think about you
Speaker 1: and Aaron.
Speaker 9: It's like, yeah, you know what's gonna happen, having the
Speaker 9: changing the tide and everything, and knowing that a chapter
Speaker 9: in your life is over, but it's still like when
Speaker 9: you do look back and you're like, damn, bro, like
Speaker 9: that was awesome.
Speaker 1: It was so fucking good being around those boys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: That's where I go back to, like me thinking like
Speaker 1: this is how I have to think. Is it easy?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not?
Speaker 10: Do I want to talk about the brotherhood and like
Speaker 10: with a team, like don't want to be like dude,
Speaker 10: like stay, we're homies.
Speaker 1: We can fucking do this, right, Absolutely I want to.
Speaker 10: But yeah, then I'm also being selfish and trying to
Speaker 10: think and because I'm being selfish for myself because I know,
Speaker 10: like I'm gonna be here anyways, right, and I could
Speaker 10: potentially like I'd never wanted to influence like someone else
Speaker 10: in their personal life, right because I know that.
Speaker 9: This is a finite time and that's a lifetime. Like
Speaker 9: when I had that really dawned on me.
Speaker 10: That's where I stopped, like, hey, I'll tell you how
Speaker 10: emotionally I think, but truly, like where I weigh more
Speaker 10: on is this side, and like that that this I
Speaker 10: was more about, like you because of how I I
Speaker 10: mean guess it's kind of well software how I started thinking,
Speaker 10: but like that's how I wanted it to be, because
Speaker 10: I never wanted the guy to be like, well you
Speaker 10: said like this, and now you're going up and leaving.
Speaker 10: I'm like, well, sorry, you know, if I were to
Speaker 10: get up and leave, like if I wanted to go
Speaker 10: get trade or something like that.
Speaker 1: Not that I do, but uh, he does.
Speaker 10: I mean it's not like that'd be fucked up for
Speaker 10: me to say to someone like so. That's why I
Speaker 10: never want to do that. I'd never wanted to add
Speaker 10: into someone as only like just being like.
Speaker 2: So, I wanted to be supportive for right because you
Speaker 2: had you You you're almost forced to compartmentalize, and you
Speaker 2: almost like you have when guys are so emotional and
Speaker 2: react to something, You're like, oh man, they just they
Speaker 2: haven't like you just don't have that awareness yet of
Speaker 2: what this business is like, how is it for you now?
Speaker 2: Like we talk about we just had that whole conversation
Speaker 2: for you. You've been a five time All Pro, a three
Speaker 2: time pro bowler. You've had a roller coaster these last
Speaker 2: couple of years, especially with injuries and everything else. And
Speaker 2: now you see headlines of you know, tackles getting hosted
Speaker 2: for your success or potential trade talks or should we
Speaker 2: restructure this contract. There's a lot of like external shit
Speaker 2: that goes on. How has that been for you coming
Speaker 2: from you have five years of like dominance and now
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you have two Your knee goes
Speaker 2: out on you and you've been trying to get back
Speaker 2: on the field.
Speaker 1: How is that?
Speaker 2: How have you been dealing with that, especially like now
Speaker 2: that headlines are getting a little not real, but they're
Speaker 2: just louder, and you're like, fuck man, they're really really
Speaker 2: trying to move on from the boy, at least from
Speaker 2: the media perspective.
Speaker 9: So one, it's fucking tough. Like I'm not gonna say
Speaker 9: it's easy.
Speaker 10: You know, I think a lot of people that you
Speaker 10: can relate to this uh tailor obviously coming from like
Speaker 10: injuries and stuff. Is people think like, oh, now we're good,
Speaker 10: We're collecting the check, we all this money.
Speaker 1: Life's good. Its like, but we didn't get here thinking
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 9: We didn't like we love to fucking ball, like we
Speaker 9: I never got paid to chill and not do what
Speaker 9: I enjoyed doing.
Speaker 10: So when I'm like, oh, you're getting money, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 10: is it nice? Sure, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 10: dis like discredit that side. But what fucking sucks more
Speaker 10: is like I'm being stripped of something that I love doing,
Speaker 10: especially the way I like doing it. And at a
Speaker 10: certain point that I think those can come to a
Speaker 10: head and that can start like on a question like
Speaker 10: you know where you're at, so you talk about like
Speaker 10: my career, like, yeah, I'm talk about the back then,
Speaker 10: like I might be on i might be in the
Speaker 10: teens of whatever hole I'm on on my back nine.
Speaker 10: So I mean for me, like I've kind of hit
Speaker 10: more of a bucket. I'm just I'm I'm gonna enjoy
Speaker 10: it whether I'm on this team, if I get traded,
Speaker 10: I haven't fucking cared. I'm just like, hey, I'm enjoying
Speaker 10: where I'm at. It's almost like I'm that young, naive
Speaker 10: kid again when I was drafted, because like I don't
Speaker 10: know what's gonna happen. I don't know if I'm gonna
Speaker 10: make the team, but I'm along for the ride, and
Speaker 10: I've had a hell of fucking journey and I'm gonna
Speaker 10: come in with the blissful fun side that I wanted
Speaker 10: to grind and have fun as I'm gonna do going
Speaker 10: out because I'm not gonna stress about what I can't control,
Speaker 10: try to control so many things up to this point,
Speaker 10: like bucket, I'm just gonna ride whatever happens. And if
Speaker 10: that's two weeks, two years, five years, cool, go.
Speaker 9: There's a level, there's a level of like releasing that
Speaker 9: stress and like want for control that is extremely free.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly what you what you're going through.
Speaker 9: It's it is one of those deals where like when
Speaker 9: you realize what you can't achieve, it's like the only
Speaker 9: thing is that matters is achieving that thing over and
Speaker 9: over and over again, because I do it once, like
Speaker 9: your first All Pro, your first Pro Bowl, You're like,
Speaker 9: this is sick. But immediately once it's announced, it's like,
Speaker 9: how do I fucking do this again?
Speaker 1: So people know it's not a.
Speaker 9: Fluke, and then you keep fighting, fighting, fighting, and then
Speaker 9: all of a sudden, some injury happens and then you
Speaker 9: like we had injuries similar times. You were a couple
Speaker 9: of months after me, but we were like text therapists,
Speaker 9: Like we would sit and talk to each other about
Speaker 9: our knees and what's going on this and that voist
Speaker 9: yes on your end, your big voice message. I do
Speaker 9: love the voice mesters, get it in and get it going.
Speaker 9: But like it is one of those things where you're
Speaker 9: like you fight so hard to get back and then
Speaker 9: things don't go your way and then there is a
Speaker 9: point in time. It's not like a level of defeat
Speaker 9: where it's like I can't. I got to stop trying
Speaker 9: to control it so much because it's making it worse
Speaker 9: on me mentally and like everything around you because physics
Speaker 9: suffering because of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Absolutely, So that's a lot fucking go through, dude, And
Speaker 9: it's nice to know that you're like in the place
Speaker 9: you are now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely was a journey to get here.
Speaker 10: I didn't like immediately in the process, like it took
Speaker 10: a lot, and I didn't even realize the toll it
Speaker 10: took on me mentally till after I was already through it,
Speaker 10: and even like talking with my wife and going back
Speaker 10: like damn, like that wasn't me and like things did change.
Speaker 10: But I'm like, oh, this is like I've been status
Speaker 10: quo kind of doing my thing. Yeah, like what I'm saying,
Speaker 10: it fucking sucked. It's hasn't been fun and like the
Speaker 10: whole leading up, like in my career, like stress, yes,
Speaker 10: and it feels very stressful but rewarding and fun too.
Speaker 10: The one it's just stressful in negative and you're getting
Speaker 10: stripped of fun whereas I leave you, and that's where
Speaker 10: I kind of was, and now I'm like in a
Speaker 10: point now where it's the relinquishing the control because I
Speaker 10: I guess I am a little bit of a control.
Speaker 1: Freak, especially you know, with your body, you have to.
Speaker 10: And then now I'm I I feel freer, i feel
Speaker 10: better and even physically I feel better. I'm like, this
Speaker 10: is cool and this is new because this is not
Speaker 10: how I've attacked my career, you know, being a day three,
Speaker 10: day four guy, you know, trying to show you that
Speaker 10: kind of what it's like on this.
Speaker 9: End I want to see. Yeah, I have no idea
Speaker 9: I need, I need to learn. Put me on day three,
Speaker 9: day four game.
Speaker 1: We would love to be day one guys too, But
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, we just grinding through.
Speaker 10: I've I've heard your absolute grinder, but like it's like
Speaker 10: that's how I've been and that's how I attacked, and
Speaker 10: it's like damn, like almost I have to do the
Speaker 10: opposite thing of the antithesis of what I am actually
Speaker 10: works for me. But it doesn't make sense having to
Speaker 10: surrender to that. That's why I'm like, fuck it, dude,
Speaker 10: I'm just I can I do what I want to
Speaker 10: do today? You can let me need cool, let's do it,
Speaker 10: you know, want today all right, fine, chill, Whereas before
Speaker 10: it's like come hell or high water, I'm up early,
Speaker 10: I'm fucking doing it.
Speaker 1: Suck it the fuck up. If it hurts, you're gonna
Speaker 1: hurt through it, and you're gonna make it feel good
Speaker 1: while you're doing it. That's where I'm at.
Speaker 9: Did you go through a little bit of and this
Speaker 9: is me kind of projecting this question is me projecting
Speaker 9: onto you a little bit, but wondering when you first
Speaker 9: get hurt and you tear your acl that next season
Speaker 9: or you know, those last couple of games, everybody is like,
Speaker 9: you're reading the tweets and everyone's like, man, if la
Speaker 9: Wam was out of here, if if Bockyard was out here,
Speaker 9: we'd be doing X, Y and Z. And you're like thing,
Speaker 9: You're all like, damn, I'm fucking I'm really him. These
Speaker 9: people really appreciate me. And then you get into that
Speaker 9: next season, you're having a lot of ups and downs
Speaker 9: with the knee, and you see that narrative change. It's
Speaker 9: like this fucking guy man can't stay healthy, Like what's
Speaker 9: the deal? When an't we getting rid of them? And
Speaker 9: it's like the same people. Was that an effect on
Speaker 9: you at all? Because that was for me a little bit,
Speaker 9: but like, no, I'm still struggling with that.
Speaker 10: I would say a little bit, but I definitely probably
Speaker 10: wouldn't say as much because I remember, like when I
Speaker 10: was young, I always would tell my mom and mom
Speaker 10: would post like on Facebook. She hasn't graduated out to
Speaker 10: like wit or anything like that. Yeah, but like on
Speaker 10: face the best. Yeah, it's been awesome. She's in this
Speaker 10: little bubble, but like she would just post all these
Speaker 10: good articles about me when I was young, kind of
Speaker 10: a sending in.
Speaker 1: My career, and I would.
Speaker 10: I don't know, I guess I always kind of being
Speaker 10: like the the gritty person's just been shpit on is
Speaker 10: like like, oh you're too small, this up and like
Speaker 10: but I've heard my life told her. I'm like, hey,
Speaker 10: like the same person's right in this about me. It's
Speaker 10: gonna be the same person's and I should be cut.
Speaker 10: Like if you're gonna post this, I'm cool with you
Speaker 10: doing that, but then you also got to post the
Speaker 10: shitty ones. Oh damn, Like yeah, I again, I get
Speaker 10: I guess, like it's hard on myself, but I remember
Speaker 10: tell I'm on that just to kind of like tempo
Speaker 10: expectations because like I didn't have expectations i'd be where
Speaker 10: I am in my career today like that that ship,
Speaker 10: Like I didn't. I was just like, holy shit, I'm
Speaker 10: gonna make league. This is fucking great. Like I don't
Speaker 10: know how the fact that I'm getting the door great.
Speaker 10: So hearing it, like does it is? I can definitely relate.
Speaker 10: But like I always was like, yeah, this guy, like
Speaker 10: I know you're gonna come after you at some point.
Speaker 10: It's not again, it's not a matter of if, it's
Speaker 10: a matter of when, Like it's the tides are gonna turn,
Speaker 10: it's gonna go from mystic. Oh you're the missing piece.
Speaker 10: Oh it feels really good to damn Like this piece
Speaker 10: is fucking hindering us right now. I'm like, yeah, well,
Speaker 10: I you know, all right, So like so be it.
Speaker 1: Fuck it what that's fucking yeah, that's a good that's
Speaker 1: a good thought process. Behalf. I had did not have that.
Speaker 10: But again, like do I like sometimes like stroking my
Speaker 10: ego when I'm feeling down, like go read a good
Speaker 10: article or someone saying about me. Yeah, I definitely would
Speaker 10: read that. And then when I see the ship, I
Speaker 10: was like, Oh, this guy does no fucking shit yes,
Speaker 10: that one on Where's where's the other?
Speaker 1: Like local Beat? Yeah, there you are, That's what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. Now we're on the same page. Yeah, does
Speaker 1: that happen. Yeah, I've totally been through that.
Speaker 10: But I in the background, I've never like let that
Speaker 10: other side of me being like, uh, I'll give you
Speaker 10: one like Pro Football Focus.
Speaker 1: I have never and I will say I never liked them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you paid a good good ratings. No, I used to.
Speaker 10: I remember asking a Local Beat writer. I was pissed
Speaker 10: off because I'm like, why is this guy shitting't like
Speaker 10: these people literally I didn't know at the time how
Speaker 10: lack of like lack of influence they had, but I
Speaker 10: was like, this person's gonna cost me my job. They
Speaker 10: keep talking shit about me, right because like that's the
Speaker 10: only thing I see out there.
Speaker 1: This is like back in like twenty fourteen thing everyone
Speaker 1: else sees it too, and that's what I thought too.
Speaker 1: I'm like, are these grades?
Speaker 10: But I'm like, but my coaches give me these other
Speaker 10: grades that are different what like, but everyone else is
Speaker 10: only seen this one and I'm one. Am I am
Speaker 10: I supposed to just like take a photo and say,
Speaker 10: like put out there the game, he's like the top again.
Speaker 10: We're like I was like, what what's going on? Like again,
Speaker 10: I think this is very like just naive of me
Speaker 10: early on, and then then I really start rolling where
Speaker 10: it almost became like I almost feel like pro football
Speaker 10: focus was like pissed. They're like, fun, we're gonna have
Speaker 10: to start getting good grades. And then I remember, I'm like,
Speaker 10: once I started jerking off, I'm like, well, fuck you guys.
Speaker 10: You think I'm gonna fucking pump you now. So I
Speaker 10: literally have never liked we did, or ever even given
Speaker 10: them any credence, I guess to this day. So congratulations,
Speaker 10: guys got me. I'm like I sat there, I'm like
Speaker 10: what the fuck. And then then they started jerking me off.
Speaker 10: They sent me like trophies of like whatever. I'm like,
Speaker 10: get the fuck out of here, dude, Like so as
Speaker 10: like a joke, I put it like in the line
Speaker 10: I'll never bring that ship home like best pass blocking off,
Speaker 10: like that's the ship that just like pissed me. I
Speaker 10: don't know why we got on this tangent about about them,
Speaker 10: but that was one thing with social media, it's something affected. Yeah,
Speaker 10: like that one definitely dicks. I'm like well, you're fucking
Speaker 10: shitting on me right now, and I think you're costing me,
Speaker 10: like my goddamn job. And then I'm like at work
Speaker 10: and starting to I'm looking at this grade and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 10: so my coach thinking this, so.
Speaker 1: They're not reading this. I'm going to work. Everyone's like, dude,
Speaker 1: you gotta keep it up. Great ship. And I'm i
Speaker 1: go home.
Speaker 10: Everyone's like like, god, we need a draft to tackle.
Speaker 10: I get this guy off the team, like he's Marshall
Speaker 10: new House two point on. I'm like, whoa, guys, what
Speaker 10: the fuck Marshall, Marshall, marsh.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean.
Speaker 10: Marshall knows like they were fucking ruthless for at anyone's
Speaker 10: throat at left tackle back in like the twenty like
Speaker 10: twenty twelve, twenty eleven.
Speaker 1: It was fucked up. Yeah, you can tell.
Speaker 2: It's been a process where you've talked about alluding to
Speaker 2: that process of just the ups and downs of it all.
Speaker 2: And I'll get into this kind of like fucking mentality,
Speaker 2: but what has uh, what pissed you off the most
Speaker 2: during the whole process?
Speaker 1: What pissed me off the most? Like what's like what?
Speaker 2: So I guess I guess, So I guess for myself
Speaker 2: when I would go through injuries and what would piss
Speaker 2: me off trying to get back onto the field and
Speaker 2: everything else throughout the whole process outside of like hearing
Speaker 2: trips and things like that would always be the level
Speaker 2: of just not on the same page of a person
Speaker 2: that you might work with off the field versus people
Speaker 2: you work with in the locker room and in the
Speaker 2: training room, and some of like in your head, some
Speaker 2: of the incompetence, incompetencies you think that the NFL training
Speaker 2: room can have at times.
Speaker 1: It would always piss me off because they wanted to
Speaker 1: not think we were going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking about like you know, when I when
Speaker 2: I was like going through it or trying to recover
Speaker 2: from injuries and everything else, you just wish everybody would
Speaker 2: be on the same page. And you're like, man, it
Speaker 2: seems like it seems like so and so is looking
Speaker 2: up for my best interest. But why are they kind
Speaker 2: of forcing to push my hand to like go out
Speaker 2: on the field right now a little too soon?
Speaker 1: So that would always piss me off.
Speaker 2: So I'm kind of just asking you that might not
Speaker 2: be it, but I'm asking you, like what's kind of
Speaker 2: what pissed you off the most throughout the process of
Speaker 2: coming back and throughout these last couple of years.
Speaker 1: I think what we said before, like the lack of
Speaker 1: control like that that fucking pissed me off.
Speaker 10: I think every other injury I've had, which again hasn't
Speaker 10: gone like even like documentar has to be out there
Speaker 10: because I feel like it needed to. Like I just
Speaker 10: grit my teeth harder and just say fuck it, I'll
Speaker 10: do it later, and they would just kind of go away,
Speaker 10: kind of just fit in line, like if I ignore
Speaker 10: you enough or just tell you that no, you can't
Speaker 10: be hurt, you can do it. Whereas like this nee thing,
Speaker 10: and I like that we can kind of relate to this,
Speaker 10: like we thinks maybe whistle pick and talk more about
Speaker 10: I'm surely yeah pre plugged baby.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: The most annoying thing about it is like I I
Speaker 1: can't like it. I have to listen to it.
Speaker 10: It won't let me do the what I've done my
Speaker 10: entire life, and that I think is the most stressful part.
Speaker 10: Now the whole training room and like who's doing what?
Speaker 10: Like hey man, Like that's I think that's a whole
Speaker 10: nother basket that.
Speaker 9: The problem is information when it comes to what will
Speaker 9: what you were talking about, it's because you go and
Speaker 9: you meet with these third parties and they put so
Speaker 9: much game on you about they're using big words. They
Speaker 9: do a couple of things and they're like just do
Speaker 9: this is and this right now, and you do it.
Speaker 9: You're like, oh fuck, I do feel better when you
Speaker 9: do that. And then you go to the training room
Speaker 9: and they're like they they stick to the nuts and
Speaker 9: bolts of what's going on. They got a new machine
Speaker 9: for everything. But you're still doing rice. You're still you
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying, and so you it does You're
Speaker 9: still doing rice. Yeah, it's still like yeah, like it
Speaker 9: makes you think like, hey, who is right and who
Speaker 9: is wrong? And then usually like as you get followed
Speaker 9: down the road, the road you start working with these
Speaker 9: third party people and you're like, well, man, every time
Speaker 9: I work with them, I feel way better. Why is
Speaker 9: that different than when I'm in the training room? What
Speaker 9: like why is that pausing that frustration? And then I
Speaker 9: mean you saw me and what twenty twenty one with
Speaker 9: Adrian in the training room. Yeah, he was this one
Speaker 9: of the trainers we had. He was making me do
Speaker 9: some stuff, and I fucking lost it on him one day.
Speaker 9: I just felt like he was doing it wrong and
Speaker 9: everyone else is telling me he's doing it wrong, but
Speaker 9: he's like, no, this is the only way to do it.
Speaker 9: And it's just that is a frustrating thing to go
Speaker 9: back on the things you struggled with, dude, because that
Speaker 9: shit is Yeah, it's like it's like you work and
Speaker 9: you're trying to, like, you know, make your injury feel
Speaker 9: a lot better. I had this thing called like ossiatis
Speaker 9: peoples wore.
Speaker 2: My groin was just inflamed, and I had basic had
Speaker 2: this set up like two weeks in training camp, and
Speaker 2: the third part of that, I would work with the
Speaker 2: guy that I would work with that.
Speaker 1: Would fly in.
Speaker 2: We go to this hotel room and everything else, and
Speaker 2: we're doing all these things to make to relieve some
Speaker 2: pain and do all this. And the big thing was like, hey,
Speaker 2: don't get on a bike or anything else. But the
Speaker 2: first thing I'd do when I'd go into the training
Speaker 2: camp the next day would be like, get on a
Speaker 2: fucking bike. And it's just like, Yo, are these motherfuckers
Speaker 2: like actually trying to figure out what's wrong with me?
Speaker 2: Are they just going through the motions so all to say,
Speaker 2: like those types of things pissed me off, and now
Speaker 2: for me, I'm more on the I'm like, I'm pretty
Speaker 2: I am on the other side of it, so I
Speaker 2: can kind of talk a little shit about it. I
Speaker 2: do feel like there's incompetencies in the NFL when it
Speaker 2: comes to that stuff, like the reason no players go
Speaker 2: back and train all year round at the facilities speacause
Speaker 2: the facilities and the programs usually suck.
Speaker 1: I know, it's kind of harder for you.
Speaker 9: Guys to speak on it is this is Will's NFLPA,
Speaker 9: my NFLPA.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I'm just saying, like speaking openly about that stuff,
Speaker 2: Like the NFLPA did come out with grades and everything
Speaker 2: else for aably stuff, which I thought phenomenal. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: thought that was awesome. He kind of gives something amazing
Speaker 2: insight to what goes on.
Speaker 1: Uh, it is awful.
Speaker 9: First of all, I actually will respectfully disagree. Are they bad?
Speaker 9: I don't even even go bad. I love j C Like, oh,
Speaker 9: I think Jasey's also, Yes, did did we have gripe before?
Speaker 9: Because again, let me also he sucks. Yeah, he's awesome.
Speaker 9: I know. I know I mess with jac Tretder. He's
Speaker 9: a hard working, well spoken, good dude. I was with
Speaker 9: him in Exos and Carlsbad all the time. That guy
Speaker 9: is an elite person, human being.
Speaker 10: He's gonna So I was drafted with him in Green
Speaker 10: Bay and like I think, so he went to Cornell
Speaker 10: and I believe he studied like a union.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was in because when he got when he
Speaker 2: got voted as a president, it was.
Speaker 1: Kind of like a no brainer made for this job.
Speaker 10: And like I remember him telling me, he goes the
Speaker 10: worst thing the NFL that could have done was blackball
Speaker 10: may because I'm the president and now they just gave
Speaker 10: me more time to fuck them over. I heard this,
Speaker 10: and like I know, Ja c jc's a very fair guy.
Speaker 10: Like he's gonna call a spade of bad even if
Speaker 10: it means a detriment of himself. I'm like, that's an
Speaker 10: honest man. Like I would love to play any type
Speaker 10: of card game with him, cause I know he'll never cheat.
Speaker 10: He'll never cheat in anything. He'll he'll be a guy
Speaker 10: like if you even drop money back, he just would.
Speaker 10: He's that kind of guy like he's always like I
Speaker 10: got the coach, watch him sometime we get annoyed because
Speaker 10: we're like, you know, back when we would play, uh
Speaker 10: we get out of meetings when we were rookies and
Speaker 10: be like, oh, this is how we talk with you.
Speaker 2: We got to go back to the offensive lid. Roo'm like, no,
Speaker 2: we fucking don't. If we all don't go, we're gonna
Speaker 2: be good. Well the Botterer said, so, I'm like, God
Speaker 2: damn it. JC, then we'd had to fucking go in
Speaker 2: the meetings. And again that actually like that.
Speaker 10: Yeah, he was one of those guys, but I respect
Speaker 10: it now in his position and that's been the code
Speaker 10: of who he's been. So these grades, going back to
Speaker 10: the grades and him like, I think he is actually
Speaker 10: doing well and the nice thing being as close as
Speaker 10: I am with him, being draft with him as I
Speaker 10: got like a fast past to know what's going on,
Speaker 10: what's he thinking, what's he doing? And I think that
Speaker 10: he's actually using the money or good or positive change,
Speaker 10: and he's got a vision of what he wants to do,
Speaker 10: Like that NFLPA thing, the golfing thing, like there is
Speaker 10: a vision behind it. It's not just let's get the
Speaker 10: guys getting golf. I don't want to like divulge too
Speaker 10: much of like his plan, but there's a plan behind it.
Speaker 1: When you're saying use the money for good, can you
Speaker 1: say anything about that?
Speaker 10: I think for us, like we would always call a question,
Speaker 10: like we're paying these dues and like what's it going for?
Speaker 10: What are we really getting? And like did we really
Speaker 10: feel like it was being using our best interest? The
Speaker 10: new shary duty. That's where we called a question. I
Speaker 10: think that's where you say no, like that's I think
Speaker 10: that's where you have that resentment. And I think over
Speaker 10: the course of our career, I think a lot of
Speaker 10: guys felt that same way. Yeah, I like where it's
Speaker 10: heading because you have a guy in the room that
Speaker 10: I know, like I said, he'd be the guy found
Speaker 10: money on the ground, he'd hand it back to so
Speaker 10: I know that he's looking at this money be like, well,
Speaker 10: this is a waste of money. Why is this money
Speaker 10: going here? Should be going towards this, And he'd fight
Speaker 10: for use this money for something that's acting, dude, that's
Speaker 10: gonna do good, not only for the PA before the player,
Speaker 10: for the players and then the PA. And if it isn't,
Speaker 10: let's put a kabash this thing right now, Like what
Speaker 10: do we So I trust I have trust in JC
Speaker 10: yea like, so that's what makes me feel really getting
Speaker 10: so far the things that he's doing, like the Twitter
Speaker 10: blast with the fields with the grades, like I thought
Speaker 10: that was a great first step and that I think
Speaker 10: it showed all these players, like Buck, I got some
Speaker 10: you know, these uh, these strength coaches and these uh uh,
Speaker 10: these these training people better fucking start getting their shit
Speaker 10: right now because they're gonna be on the hot seat
Speaker 10: because I got a great coming for you at the
Speaker 10: end of the year. Whereas before everyone used to be
Speaker 10: super taboo, you don't talk. Abo goes on the facility
Speaker 10: and you know they're in with.
Speaker 2: Whether it's head coaches, uh, front office ownership stuff like that.
Speaker 2: You just realize they're kind of like, can't really mess
Speaker 2: them because they're kind of seting their job. Now that
Speaker 2: this stuff was public, it's like people gonna have a
Speaker 2: bird's eye view on how each element in the building
Speaker 2: is working. Like, man, it seems like our players really
Speaker 2: don't like this strength coach, or we really don't like
Speaker 2: the nutrition or the building or this person or that person,
Speaker 2: And you can kind of check and have that open
Speaker 2: dialogue on getting better like, hey, what changes are we making?
Speaker 2: Are you stuck in your ways? Why are you getting
Speaker 2: this grade? Why do why collectively do the players feel
Speaker 2: about you in this way? Wasn't the Ravens like the Ravens.
Speaker 2: I think I had the worst strength coach, and everyone's
Speaker 2: extremely outspoken.
Speaker 10: But I think two weeks before, like a ten days
Speaker 10: before that thing came out, they fired him because the
Speaker 10: I this is again, I don't know what what I
Speaker 10: had heard was They fired him because they knew this
Speaker 10: was gonna come out and it was gonna look bad
Speaker 10: on the organization. And then that goes back, Hey, brother,
Speaker 10: we got some power now, right that what I think
Speaker 10: is awesome, And I think for all of us we
Speaker 10: can all agree that, like we know, the players have power.
Speaker 10: The hardest thing is getting us to get together. All
Speaker 10: of us are all over the fucking place, and it's sad.
Speaker 10: But I see j C pulling us together even like
Speaker 10: you know, am I really talking to him as he like?
Speaker 9: There No, But like with these things, I feel like
Speaker 9: we're being able to have one collective voice, and that
Speaker 9: is very strong, especially when it comes to negotiation, especially
Speaker 9: forgetting for what you want.
Speaker 1: So that's where I feel about that with jacc wants
Speaker 1: to come on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the other one on a little tangent a few
Speaker 2: episodes ago, and Jac immediately puts us in a group.
Speaker 1: You say, hey, I want to come on the bus.
Speaker 1: That's a little different than when we have the other
Speaker 1: PA presence. I do like I like I said, I
Speaker 1: like JC. I'm nor respect him coming on the bus.
Speaker 1: Why is that?
Speaker 9: Because he's he's such a well spoken and he's much
Speaker 9: more well versed in everything we're going to talk about
Speaker 9: than I am.
Speaker 1: So I am going to look dumb.
Speaker 9: And the reason why I know I'm going to look
Speaker 9: dumb is I don't feel like looking into it so
Speaker 9: much where I can like literally have an actual debate
Speaker 9: with this individual. And also I know my hatred and
Speaker 9: dismay for the NFLPA is from an individual standpoint. Twenty nineteen,
Speaker 9: getting a PED knowing I didn't take that PD, and
Speaker 9: essentially I get on a call with them, They're like,
Speaker 9: there's nothing we can do for you, And my thought
Speaker 9: is like, why in this judicial system of the NFL
Speaker 9: am I guilty before proven innocent, and then if I
Speaker 9: am proven innocent, still guilty. So that put a massive
Speaker 9: like I got very frustrated. I lost a lot of money,
Speaker 9: but I also lost a lot of respect around the
Speaker 9: community people. I'm extremely jaded from that situation and then
Speaker 9: going into meetings like you have those three four meetings
Speaker 9: every year with the NFLPA, and it's like you sit there,
Speaker 9: guys are asking good questions, Guys are asking questions about money,
Speaker 9: what we should do, where we should go, what's gonna happen,
Speaker 9: and that there was never a clear cut, black and
Speaker 9: white answer. It was always a gray area. We're working
Speaker 9: on this, trust me, guys, this is gonna happen. And
Speaker 9: it was never like nothing ever got done. It was
Speaker 9: like an hour of dudes just bitching at the PA
Speaker 9: guys and them going, hey, but we're we're working for you,
Speaker 9: guys should come to the meetings. Which you were on
Speaker 9: me all the time about going to the meetings. But
Speaker 9: it's like I have really joined a line in the
Speaker 9: sand with the NFL p A from what's happened to
Speaker 9: me individually.
Speaker 1: Which is which is which is justifiable? Like that's understandable.
Speaker 1: I think it's like because of the p do you
Speaker 1: think I was four million dollars? Yeah, well you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I get ye appreciated.
Speaker 9: The thing that frustrated me the most is like when
Speaker 9: I'm if I'm in a situation where I need to
Speaker 9: go to battle, essentially, I'm going to battle with the
Speaker 9: lawyers of the NFL. These dudes are paid so much money,
Speaker 9: and I'm frustrated. I want the people working with me
Speaker 9: to at least seem just frustrated as I am, just
Speaker 9: as angry and motivated. They could be fucking lying to
Speaker 9: me for all I care, But as long as I
Speaker 9: feel that for me, I'm like, all right, I feel
Speaker 9: like whatever happens, they're doing the best.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I get on a call with them and it's like,
Speaker 9: hey man, you know, based on the way this is
Speaker 9: all set up, you know, you literally have to go
Speaker 9: through old supplement cans and get them tested, and I
Speaker 9: can go into the whole thing about how supplements are made,
Speaker 9: batches and all that, and it's kind of just one
Speaker 9: thing after another.
Speaker 1: Numbers, there's nothing's regulated.
Speaker 9: There's like even if NF you f NSF certified, like
Speaker 9: that's that's you know, sometimes shit can still get in there.
Speaker 9: So they really just sat there and they were waving
Speaker 9: the white flag. On our first conversation, it was just
Speaker 9: so frustrating dude. And I remember getting on the call
Speaker 9: with the NFL and the PA and there was like
Speaker 9: basically my sentencing of what's gonna happen. I'm sitting in
Speaker 9: the kitchen and I knew there's nothing I can say
Speaker 9: here anymore. Did not get suspended, So I took my
Speaker 9: twenty five thirty seconds to tell I was literally like,
Speaker 9: you guys are pieces of shit.
Speaker 1: Fuck you guys, like went off and hung up the phone.
Speaker 1: I like went off.
Speaker 9: And since then, I've had that, I've had that that
Speaker 9: chip on my shoulder, and it's like I would love
Speaker 9: to have Jacon on because of how much respect I
Speaker 9: have for JC. But I know good and well when
Speaker 9: we sit down and have that conversation, I'm gonna walk
Speaker 9: away feeling dumb.
Speaker 1: You know, I think.
Speaker 9: I think the reason I think that's a good thing.
Speaker 9: I don't want to run away from that. But at
Speaker 9: the same time, it's like, I'm very aware that is
Speaker 9: going to happen.
Speaker 10: Wouldn't you rather have a PA president make you feel
Speaker 10: dumb and make you feel really smart, especially because they're
Speaker 10: privy to the they're at certain tables conversations and planning.
Speaker 10: I'd rather have him be like, damn, I never thought
Speaker 10: of that, instead of what the fuck are you thinking?
Speaker 10: And it's the other these other clowns, like these regional
Speaker 10: dudes that come in. They dude, they pissed me off.
Speaker 10: Who's the one guy?
Speaker 1: Is it Ernie? Oh yeah, I don't like Ernie at all. Ernie, Like, look,
Speaker 1: I understand it's very justified, like Ernie.
Speaker 9: And then who's the guy who is who's the black dude,
Speaker 9: bald head Don Davis?
Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck that guy too. I there's don't really good
Speaker 1: with names. Man. Well, yea.
Speaker 9: Every single time I've had a conversation with them and
Speaker 9: something to get them, well, I'm just I'm also like
Speaker 9: finishing the I just needed a couple of things. When
Speaker 9: these motherfuckers come up to me and we're having these conversations,
Speaker 9: there's never a clear answer, never a clear answer. Well,
Speaker 9: I'm asking you questions that are very basic, and I
Speaker 9: could just give me the answer to the four one
Speaker 9: K phenomenal Other than that, what the fuck are we doing?
Speaker 1: Like what is happening here?
Speaker 11: Why?
Speaker 9: Like I have no idea and they've never given me
Speaker 9: a clear answer. I think I think they're just I
Speaker 9: think they're just cutting checks, just to cut check. I
Speaker 9: think this is the one, and I know you want
Speaker 9: to talk.
Speaker 1: Well I don't. The only thing. Let me just list
Speaker 1: I've had questions I've gone to them for and my
Speaker 1: only thing.
Speaker 10: Again, I've never gone down the alleys you've been down,
Speaker 10: but I just know from them, their whole idea is
Speaker 10: we cannot confirm anything that has any tool drop of
Speaker 10: gray because now we are deemed liable because the moment
Speaker 10: they give you lotty exactly and and and that's the bullshit.
Speaker 10: So like, yeah, that's the only thing I can think of,
Speaker 10: because that's like for them, it's like I've been there,
Speaker 10: and it's like, give me a fucking answer, just tell
Speaker 10: me yes or no. And they're like, uh, well, you know, uh,
Speaker 10: you know, we just recommend that, you know, for from
Speaker 10: a submestinent, like we recommend that noble player takes any supplement.
Speaker 10: The moment they put anything in their body, they're subject
Speaker 10: to potentially like having a tainted stuff. I'm like, if
Speaker 10: you're telling like any fucking broccoli from fucking uh if
Speaker 10: I go to Public's and get broccoly because it could
Speaker 10: be potentially tainted and it's not organic, really responsible for this,
Speaker 10: So I'm just like that, that's that's the point. It's
Speaker 10: fucking stupid. Yeah, like it should be like that is
Speaker 10: a terrible way to go about, especially for the players
Speaker 10: you're representing us. Give us more cut and dry, more
Speaker 10: black and white, because it's our careers, it's our money.
Speaker 10: But like, then again, you strip that away. It's like
Speaker 10: and I'm trying to go on there side and the
Speaker 10: look I'm like, Okay, I see what you're doing. It's
Speaker 10: fucking like I hate it.
Speaker 1: But all right.
Speaker 9: In the supplement thing, dude, it's completely asinine for people
Speaker 9: to sit there and be like, you don't need to
Speaker 9: take any supplements, just get good night's rest and eat nutrition. Like, brother,
Speaker 9: we are putting out so much energy and damaging our
Speaker 9: bodies so much on a day to day basis during football.
Speaker 1: You need supplements. They're extremely important to take you.
Speaker 9: You need to be the basics, the fish oils, the
Speaker 9: the B vitamins, the vitamin D like, take those. But
Speaker 9: guess what, you're still fucking liable. And it's just wild.
Speaker 9: And if that is the case, why don't we have
Speaker 9: every guy get blood work and every single guy have
Speaker 9: supplements that the team buys and make sure is good
Speaker 9: and then we take those make it anything outside of it,
Speaker 9: then we're liable. Like how is that not an easy
Speaker 9: answer because the money, but how can.
Speaker 1: They how can they confirm making it? Making it?
Speaker 9: Apartment conversation if they if you do your blood work
Speaker 9: and they say, based on your blood work, what your
Speaker 9: levels are.
Speaker 1: In X, Y and Z, you need this much of
Speaker 1: vitamin C, you know, but.
Speaker 10: Then like they give you the supplements and then like okay,
Speaker 10: but then let's say you still pop. Then way they
Speaker 10: confirmed that you took something that the the franchise.
Speaker 9: Then it's like, okay, what if we've done your blood
Speaker 9: work and we've given you all the things we know
Speaker 9: you need, then why would you need to take anything
Speaker 9: else outside of here?
Speaker 1: Even creatines, even proteins, all that stuff.
Speaker 9: If you give me all the stuff I need and
Speaker 9: I take it and then I go off and do
Speaker 9: something else, I should be liable before I do it.
Speaker 10: If I'm getting everything I need, I totally agree with that,
Speaker 10: and for one that that that's what's around the corner. Yeah,
Speaker 10: I think I would love I actually yearned for the
Speaker 10: day for that. Yeah, because I think it's.
Speaker 1: Like it's.
Speaker 10: I know, well, you were the settlements. I was like,
Speaker 10: I gotta fuck no, I know, but I totally agree
Speaker 10: with that. IM like I did the blood work thing too.
Speaker 10: I've been going down the alley and I fucking love it.
Speaker 10: I'm like, what the fuck? Why don't our teams, just
Speaker 10: like you, invest so much money these players, optimize them,
Speaker 10: get the most you can out of them, make sure
Speaker 10: that they're healthy, they're recovering, they can show up on Sunday.
Speaker 10: There's so many guys who don't know shit that literally,
Speaker 10: I have never had protein besides musclim look that they
Speaker 10: were given through college and then they never had a
Speaker 10: something before their child un till they get to the NFL,
Speaker 10: and then it's like.
Speaker 1: Oh, go fend for yourself.
Speaker 10: Like we just had a rookie pop because his uh
Speaker 10: what do he went to a JC and his buddy's like,
Speaker 10: do we got big taking this?
Speaker 1: Take this?
Speaker 10: It's like like could and they love the end, Like
Speaker 10: teams love micromanaging. That's a great one to do, but
Speaker 10: they don't know who to trust, who to go through.
Speaker 10: How much money is it going to be? Oh you
Speaker 10: know what, like is it it tested? Oh did it
Speaker 10: not come from Like one of the guys already works here,
Speaker 10: then they're gonna get jaded. Then they want to have
Speaker 10: control over it, so then they shoot it down.
Speaker 9: They say it's like it's stupid because they wouldn't want
Speaker 9: to like have their job come to compromise, and it's
Speaker 9: just it's a whole racket.
Speaker 1: But I totally like, I would love that I do
Speaker 1: that myself. I all this shit you're saying, we just
Speaker 1: got blood work done in two weeks ago.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm literally going, like today you talk about schedule,
Speaker 10: that's where I'm going to see in Franklin. I'm going
Speaker 10: to go see my like the blood gun, make sure
Speaker 10: everything's loved. Because since I doing that, my body has
Speaker 10: been way better. I wish I was doing this when
Speaker 10: I was younger. Again, I had no fucking idea. I
Speaker 10: was like you, I was taking here's the thing. I
Speaker 10: remember taking a protein suplement and then literally I got
Speaker 10: an email after taking for good like twelve months, eighteen months,
Speaker 10: and it said, hey, recall tainted something. I'm sitting there
Speaker 10: like it was a grass fed I was getting from
Speaker 10: overseas and I was like, oh, I'm like, well, I
Speaker 10: was fucking I've been your opinions and it's been cleaned
Speaker 10: so far. I'm like, you know, damn, I could have
Speaker 10: gotten fucked and I didn't. For me, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 10: paying top dollar for like a grass fed protein that's
Speaker 10: coming from where I don't even remember where the hell.
Speaker 10: I think if my dad told me about it was
Speaker 10: because he's always like health conscious, But that's something like
Speaker 10: I could have easially been one of those stories too,
Speaker 10: and I wouldn't fucking pissed. I'm like, I brought this in.
Speaker 10: It was literally sitting in our facility, like all right,
Speaker 10: no one. You know, this is before NSF became a
Speaker 10: big thing. They have the app where you could do
Speaker 10: like you do the barcode.
Speaker 9: That's what I first came in, right, this is before
Speaker 9: that you would still take like even the non NSF stuff.
Speaker 1: You could hold up a bottle in it and it
Speaker 1: would be like green yellow. Yeah.
Speaker 10: I mean nowadays, honestly, like this is I don't know.
Speaker 10: If you have this, it'd be cool, And I'm like,
Speaker 10: I don't. I don't really take much stuff anymore. Like
Speaker 10: I literally take like the vitamins that I the bug
Speaker 10: guy just told me to do from like warn I'm like, okay,
Speaker 10: it's all in a stuff And then I barely drink protein.
Speaker 1: Shit, I just eat it. At this point, That's what
Speaker 1: I was saying.
Speaker 2: I'm not such a fuck it like, you know what,
Speaker 2: my body's just gonna hold onto what it is and
Speaker 2: if it's not, yeah, like just organic natural something in
Speaker 2: what I can from the vibamin standpoint, let it go,
Speaker 2: Like enough of that cretine like that talk, I did
Speaker 2: all that stuff.
Speaker 9: That That's that's where I'm mat Now you're you're losing
Speaker 9: the meathead. You're losing the meathead right in the head.
Speaker 9: I am the scary thought.
Speaker 1: I am. It's it is sad, but it seems like
Speaker 1: you want to just get back to the basics. It is.
Speaker 10: I think I do think getting back to the basis.
Speaker 10: I think we've it's a different philosophy. I think my
Speaker 10: body now is actually held way better. I should always
Speaker 10: be struggling to be heavy. Now I'm like, fuck, lose
Speaker 10: a little bit of weight and it's still kind of
Speaker 10: hanging there a little bit longer.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking a single fucking equally a scary thought. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's also scary.
Speaker 9: Dude who is also like always always heavy or I'm sorry,
Speaker 9: I always light, trying to become heavy, you would think, Man,
Speaker 9: but someday when I'm done playing, this is gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1: Way like that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that that'd be a thought if you're like, man,
Speaker 9: I'm kind of eating the same, but nothing's really fluctuated, dude.
Speaker 10: I've been I've been eating quinwa and grass fed meat
Speaker 10: for literally three weeks around this cleanse, and I'm like,
Speaker 10: how am I barely losing weight? Because I've old me
Speaker 10: would be plummeting. Yeah, i'd be in like the two
Speaker 10: nineties asap, and I'm sitting here just still hovering. I'm like,
Speaker 10: can we get like I wanna? I want to get
Speaker 10: that low right fucking am? Like, well, just keep sticking
Speaker 10: to it. I guess, age, how do you close this?
Speaker 10: Do you remember what you were gonna say?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think ultimately I was just gonna say, like, uh,
Speaker 2: like I completely that's all just aifiable and understandable, like
Speaker 2: feeling jaded, like when the year ten stuff was going on,
Speaker 2: like yeah, it's kind of like water off my back
Speaker 2: while I was I actually so serious to where I
Speaker 2: was gonna piss me off, like yes and no, because
Speaker 2: you know, you still lose out on like when I
Speaker 2: couldn't sund that deal. It's like, you still lose out
Speaker 2: on over three hundred thousand dollars that I could have
Speaker 2: had in the bank account, and it pisses you off
Speaker 2: that there's some there's really a cover your ass conversation
Speaker 2: about it. It wasn't necessarily Hey, this is where the
Speaker 2: the NFL could get you in the gambling or the structuring.
Speaker 2: It's like we don't think nothing will happen, but also
Speaker 2: we can't guarantee it. So that ultimately led to not playing.
Speaker 2: Not playing. But I think like with the whole NFLPA
Speaker 2: thing and JC coming on the bus and everything like that,
Speaker 2: you have such a microphone because you are a premier,
Speaker 2: like you signed the biggest deal at one point in time,
Speaker 2: and when something happens and you just feel jaded and
Speaker 2: you're like fuck the PA and everything like that, versus
Speaker 2: a stance of like let's figure out how we can
Speaker 2: fix the system, which I know it's like JC, he's
Speaker 2: trying to do things like that. I think that's where
Speaker 2: I think, that's where it's like, you want to come in.
Speaker 2: If we're gonna at the NFLPA, we need to be
Speaker 2: a union. That's about the boys. That's the player's best
Speaker 2: interested in mind and everything about that, and we want
Speaker 2: to make it that way. I think that's why it's
Speaker 2: imperative for guys to show up, go to the meetings
Speaker 2: do all that stuff, versus you know, you have your
Speaker 2: thing and it is justifiable and everything you're saying is
Speaker 2: a good point, right, and it's such a it's like
Speaker 2: an individual jed thing to where you're just like, no,
Speaker 2: fuck the PA, I'm drawing the line in the sand.
Speaker 1: I gotta sit here. I'm like, man, we got to
Speaker 1: figure out a way to get him to come around.
Speaker 2: Because if you have the strongest voices coming out and
Speaker 2: taking it serious, you could start to make a little
Speaker 2: bit of change, something small. You had to at first
Speaker 2: get like practice squad players didn't get eligible for benefits,
Speaker 2: and I went to the meetings, like after the second
Speaker 2: or third year. Lorenzo Alexander fifteen year player made the
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl stud He was a practic squad guy for
Speaker 2: three years before he started playing in the game.
Speaker 1: And I was always pissed because you could be undrapped.
Speaker 2: You could be a rookie who was gonna get cut,
Speaker 2: but you got hurt and you got put on ir
Speaker 2: you got like double the money of Peace squad guys,
Speaker 2: guys who are still playing, Like I would see guys
Speaker 2: that I knew were gonna be gone and I'm sitting
Speaker 2: there fucking grinding on practice squad, and they got access
Speaker 2: to the benefits, the four to one K, the retirement
Speaker 2: double the money that I was getting. And you just
Speaker 2: felt the type of way to where it's like, well,
Speaker 2: how do we make a change or make or make
Speaker 2: some kind of rule. But fortunately when you go, when
Speaker 2: you're at the meetings and you can try and do
Speaker 2: some of that focused work, Lorenzo ends up getting something
Speaker 2: passed where you can either credit a year or practice
Speaker 2: squad players can now have can now have access to benefits.
Speaker 2: But all to say is JC being the president, trying
Speaker 2: to make all these changes somebody you can trust. It's
Speaker 2: like there are some suits and people we need to
Speaker 2: weed out that don't necessarily have the best interests. Yeah
Speaker 2: to where And when you say, I just want to
Speaker 2: feel like it seems like somebody has some emergency to this,
Speaker 2: because again going off the example of the year ten stuff,
Speaker 2: it always felt like I talked to somebody at eleven
Speaker 2: in the morning and they're like, they're gonna talk with
Speaker 2: the lawyer of the first thing tomorrow morning. It's like,
Speaker 2: why we have hours today, Like I can be signed
Speaker 2: and going out there and doing this. If somebody, if
Speaker 2: I just felt like somebody was trying to fight the
Speaker 2: good fight and figure it out for me, which I
Speaker 2: agree with all that stuff, it's it's just a it's
Speaker 2: a dude, fuck the.
Speaker 1: PA in this.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I just wish he would come around a
Speaker 2: little bit because you have a strong voice. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: now we have a pod that's about the boys for
Speaker 2: the boys, and we want the grades, we want the union.
Speaker 2: We want the players to be in the best possible
Speaker 2: position to battle against the ownership and things like that,
Speaker 2: and we obviously need to fix those flaws in the
Speaker 2: cuss I would.
Speaker 1: Say, stop paying your dues is the best way to
Speaker 1: put yourself in the best position.
Speaker 10: Not just kidding, no, no, no, when all this you
Speaker 10: will if you get if they cut your check for
Speaker 10: four million dollars, Yeah, dude, like Detroit pays me the
Speaker 10: money that they that they owed me.
Speaker 9: If you get your money with the PA, he'll be back,
Speaker 9: Like in Detroit, I'll be waving that fucking flag. No,
Speaker 9: you bring up a good point. Like, hey, you get
Speaker 9: in it more, do more stuff, like try to be
Speaker 9: a part of it. Days did the same thing to me,
Speaker 9: like hey, you want change, go make it yourself and
Speaker 9: I and then it kind of goes back to being
Speaker 9: so solely focused on your career when everything's going well.
Speaker 9: At that point in my career, everything was going exactly
Speaker 9: how I wanted it to go, and I thought to myself, why,
Speaker 9: like just eat this, hate them, and limit distractions and
Speaker 9: focus on where you need to go with your career.
Speaker 9: That was, you know, because it's like I've always worked
Speaker 9: best if I just simplify things. And that was easy
Speaker 9: for me to simplifize, compartmentalize and be like, okay, move
Speaker 9: on from that.
Speaker 1: That's gone. It can't you can't do anything about it.
Speaker 1: It's not worth my time. I have a young kid.
Speaker 1: I think Taylan was pregnant with Willow at the time, yep.
Speaker 1: So it was all like.
Speaker 9: Why would I go and add more to my plate
Speaker 9: when I can just focus on this and in my
Speaker 9: head like you can make that form million up at
Speaker 9: the back end, just keep fucking just keep focusing.
Speaker 1: Now, obviously injuries start happening and stuff like that.
Speaker 10: Great that's an unlievableay to think too. Yeah, like to compartmentalize,
Speaker 10: and then to also think like that in the moment,
Speaker 10: because I will say, go back. My memory did come
Speaker 10: back from that. Do you remember watching a couple clips.
Speaker 10: There are a couple of games of you. You can
Speaker 10: even pull them up. You can see I remember you
Speaker 10: weren't a little terror when you came back and back.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: I do remember you as nineteen was a good year.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I do remember when he came back.
Speaker 1: I'm like this.
Speaker 10: I get you say fresh legs, this, that the other,
Speaker 10: but there's a difference between having fresh legs and then
Speaker 10: then there's that kind of like fuck everyone, I'm gonna
Speaker 10: show everyone type thing.
Speaker 1: The compartmentalizing that I did see, like I do remember
Speaker 1: watching I was.
Speaker 9: Like, dude, I appreciate you saying that because I think
Speaker 9: about my fucking fire when I look back at like
Speaker 9: my film if I I don't really look like at
Speaker 9: my film, but I like when I think back about
Speaker 9: my film, like twenty nineteen and twenty twenty were like
Speaker 9: my best put together games I've ever played. It was
Speaker 9: such a I was in flow state for a while
Speaker 9: it was an angry flow state and it was it
Speaker 9: was rolling man. But yeah, twenty nineteen, that missed those
Speaker 9: first four games and then I only played five games
Speaker 9: in twenty twenty. But I legit thought to myself like
Speaker 9: I'm really just I'm peaking, like I'm really.
Speaker 1: Ill. I was really going out there.
Speaker 9: And I do appreciate you saying that because I think
Speaker 9: about that sometimes I'm like, I don't I can't go
Speaker 9: out and say that myself, Like it's just like then,
Speaker 9: it's like you're trying to what are you trying to?
Speaker 9: Just know that, Hey, that's what the briller is here,
Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying. That's why I got so
Speaker 9: fired up and making my heart.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn thanks.
Speaker 10: Because because when you when you're talking about the moment,
Speaker 10: I was thinking, I'm like, I do remember looking at film,
Speaker 10: like yo, there was that same fucking time because like
Speaker 10: you didn't come back from injury then this was when
Speaker 10: you just came back from something like oh it was
Speaker 10: the fucking man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I remember watching because we were playing some
Speaker 1: like my teams of watching my gup.
Speaker 10: Like I said, there's a difference in having like the
Speaker 10: fresh legs going out there playing because sometimes fresh leags.
Speaker 1: Also because it was a little bit of reust and
Speaker 1: over excitement.
Speaker 10: There was like that, like you said, right flow state,
Speaker 10: like you had the proper lean and smoking dudes off
Speaker 10: the ball, and you've always been a unbelievab run blocker,
Speaker 10: especially for me in a left tackle too, which again
Speaker 10: you can get the whole debate, but like just purely tackle,
Speaker 10: I'm not going to put you in a box tackles,
Speaker 10: mowing dudes off the ball, not being like too far
Speaker 10: over you over your toes versus like you just we're
Speaker 10: very balanced, like and not just like from a flow
Speaker 10: state as you really twelve, but also just like a
Speaker 10: when you're out in the field. You know the difference,
Speaker 10: like when you get back in training camp, the first
Speaker 10: couple of reps you do, oh fuck, I got it. Hey,
Speaker 10: am I ever going to be the same, Like you're like,
Speaker 10: you know, you do a kickset and the guy hits
Speaker 10: you on a bowl rush and there's a quick move off.
Speaker 10: It's like, ah, I too much weight forward, or the
Speaker 10: guy bold rushed you and you're on your heels and
Speaker 10: then your fucking back been It's like, okay, too much
Speaker 10: my weight back when you go look at the film.
Speaker 9: It takes a little bit to get like that proper
Speaker 9: weight distribution. I just remember like seeing my guy. Yeah,
Speaker 9: this guy, I remember that, And you bought up a
Speaker 9: good point too, of like when you get into a
Speaker 9: training camp and there's that is that rust when you're
Speaker 9: in your first couple of years, you're literally thinking yourself,
Speaker 9: oh no, I can't do this.
Speaker 1: I gets it.
Speaker 9: And then as you get older, you're like then you
Speaker 9: start to realize that the little tiny details are not
Speaker 9: doing correctly and you can kind of fix those, like, Okay,
Speaker 9: tomorrow's gonna better. Make sure you don't do X, Y
Speaker 9: and Z just pokes on like those two little things. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I appreciate you saying that that was it was a
Speaker 9: tough time. It was definitely a tough time. It was
Speaker 9: an angry time, not so angry anymore. You got off
Speaker 9: your chest now, so I got it.
Speaker 1: Off my chest. But I do like all that.
Speaker 9: All this conversation to say is j C being on
Speaker 9: this bus would be awesome to have him on, and
Speaker 9: it'd probably be very beneficial for me as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it'd be good for him to
Speaker 2: be on just because you know, you get clips from it.
Speaker 2: There's NFL guys to see stuff on our brand and
Speaker 2: things like that, and you can kind of get it
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 10: Yeah, getting jac out there honestly would be really good
Speaker 10: because Jc's like I said, I I I only trust
Speaker 10: him until proven otherwise at this point and so far,
Speaker 10: he's like the last thing I was talking to him,
Speaker 10: he's working up something that's gonna, I think come on
Speaker 10: the next week or two, and I'm like, this is like,
Speaker 10: this is what I'm fucking talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like this is what I want a PA president,
Speaker 1: like you don't even know.
Speaker 10: And then I I call him for something else and
Speaker 10: then he's like, oh, yeah, I got this thing coming
Speaker 10: out next week.
Speaker 9: I'm like, that's the fuck I'm talking in JC. That's
Speaker 9: why I like the great It's like the great thing.
Speaker 9: It put people on notice.
Speaker 10: Granted, do I think some some guys may have just
Speaker 10: been like, ah, yeah, like let's just get through this thing,
Speaker 10: and then other people were trying to great as it was,
Speaker 10: but it put people on notice and then also gave
Speaker 10: put the organization and the people within the organization that
Speaker 10: have their jobs that are like kind of like like
Speaker 10: you said, cut the weeds a little bit and organizations
Speaker 10: they kind of put them on notice. But also then
Speaker 10: I think it gave some of the player's power. Like
Speaker 10: we said when you go in the training room, like oh,
Speaker 10: you're just gonna take care of the big name guys
Speaker 10: and then take the guy's Oh you know, I've heard ah,
Speaker 10: I've heard a train I'm not gonna say who, and
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna say if he's there or not anymore,
Speaker 10: but i've heard him say like, oh, like, why do
Speaker 10: you need me.
Speaker 1: To do this?
Speaker 9: So you're gonna be gone a couple of weeks their
Speaker 9: face fuck, yeah, Wow, I'm like that's that's fucked up.
Speaker 10: But now it's nice to hear like here and see like, yo,
Speaker 10: you can say that. I'm not saying you can't. But
Speaker 10: great reaction. There's an equal opposite reaction now and we're
Speaker 10: starting to see, hey, we have our equal on opposite reaction.
Speaker 10: It's gonna be a great it's gonna come out and
Speaker 10: that person you said it to, they're gonna probably think
Speaker 10: about that when they're put that grade in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and whether or not there's a lot of grade
Speaker 2: in all the grades or not. It was such a
Speaker 2: moment when it was all coming down, players are gonna
Speaker 2: speak on it that next year it'll be that much.
Speaker 1: Bet That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 10: Like, guys are probably gonna care a little more and
Speaker 10: the next thing, you know, it's gonna be a super
Speaker 10: like dial and then like it's a it's the first
Speaker 10: iteration of it, like yeah, like any anytime, it's the beginning,
Speaker 10: Like in two, Like.
Speaker 2: There's front office people and ownership and leadership groups in
Speaker 2: the organizations that that probably do care, and that just
Speaker 2: helps give them perspective to move the move the product forward.
Speaker 2: Because ultimately, you're paying all your dollars to these.
Speaker 9: Individual contractors players that are gonna make your product on
Speaker 9: the field.
Speaker 2: Do you want to give them as many resources as possible.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, if they don't like this training
Speaker 2: room or this facility or this you know, staff member,
Speaker 2: they're able to like make an adjustment.
Speaker 10: We'll think about what like like let's I'll just use
Speaker 10: a strength coach like I do. I love our strength coaches.
Speaker 10: That's why I'm gonna use them as an example. Like
Speaker 10: they could be like, oh, we got the best program,
Speaker 10: we have the best facility. These guys love to do it.
Speaker 10: And again, who's reporting that to the person in control
Speaker 10: of you know, employing those people for their job and
Speaker 10: making sure that that that room has the equipment necessary
Speaker 10: for their players. So are they going to curate it
Speaker 10: more for them? There's definitely a bias in that. So
Speaker 10: then they're like, oh, no, we're good because I'm the
Speaker 10: source I'm getting it from is telling me so, well,
Speaker 10: now you have a second dairy avenue. It's like, well,
Speaker 10: he's telling me it's good. He's telling me it's shit,
Speaker 10: and the players are saying it's shit and they have
Speaker 10: a terrible grid on it. Now it might make that
Speaker 10: person think more, and that's that is the first greatest
Speaker 10: step you can do, is make them actually think. It's
Speaker 10: like maybe they are trying, Maybe they are lying. Maybe
Speaker 10: this isn't the best source of getting from. Maybe you know,
Speaker 10: like the trainer. I'm like, oh, we have the best
Speaker 10: rehab stuff. This is exactly what we need. The guys
Speaker 10: keep getting hurt and have now the curre insense. But
Speaker 10: now that the player as saying like this fucking sucks,
Speaker 10: so now it I think it just falls to question more.
Speaker 10: And I love that because with you know, uh, anytime
Speaker 10: there's anything that oppose each other, like like the cream
Speaker 10: always rights to the top. You're like, when you have
Speaker 10: a battle, it's gonna raise the standard of room. And
Speaker 10: that's that's I love that about that situation, and it
Speaker 10: opens a dialogue.
Speaker 1: That's what I love.
Speaker 9: Interesting to see growth mindset between the NFL and college
Speaker 9: programs because we've had the opportunity to go to a
Speaker 9: lot of different college programs. You have been traveling, Yeah,
Speaker 9: we've been moving brother. The facilities in college way nicer,
Speaker 9: like day and night nicer. Okay, can you can you
Speaker 9: tell me like what they look like now?
Speaker 10: Like I didn't have a great like Colorado wasn't like
Speaker 10: the top five, like from a facility standpoint, but like
Speaker 10: what like what do.
Speaker 1: They do they have?
Speaker 11: Let you know?
Speaker 1: Are you.
Speaker 10: I'm going back to the spring game, but like on it,
Speaker 10: I've heard the absence free game the twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 10: Like that's not late.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I felt, Yeah, we'll be out there this this
Speaker 9: episode comes out Tuesday, we'll be out there Wednesday.
Speaker 1: You guys don't want to go out there on April twentieth. No,
Speaker 1: we do all we we do, thank you. I'm waiting
Speaker 1: for them to kind of get four twenty Oh that
Speaker 1: does get bolder.
Speaker 2: God about that sounds like a good time. Yeah, But
Speaker 2: we do all of our travel like on Wednesday, get
Speaker 2: back Thursday, so that way we're going in the week.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know with a kid, like you're trying
Speaker 2: to structure to wear home on the weekends. And even
Speaker 2: for twenty that's that's my man's anniversary, so they'll be
Speaker 2: going on a little trip.
Speaker 9: You got married for twenty Yeah, because we literally because
Speaker 9: we thought that was the hell. Yeah, man, noticing they can't.
Speaker 1: This right here. Yeah, we were just at LSU this
Speaker 1: past week. Oh man.
Speaker 9: The facilities are stupid, dude. They have like doors you
Speaker 9: walk up to and they just slide open their locker room.
Speaker 9: They have like lay down locker room.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 9: You walk in, they have all the trophies and you
Speaker 9: go off to the left and the doors open. Or
Speaker 9: we have magically like Star Wars. You go lay down
Speaker 9: in these chairs. They put these like hype videos up
Speaker 9: for you to watch for recruits.
Speaker 1: They do. They're a top of the line facility. Look
Speaker 1: at that locker room.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's those look like first class seats and like
Speaker 9: one of like the biggest it's exactly what it looks
Speaker 9: like and like an air like one of the nice airplanes.
Speaker 9: But you go in, you go in, there's literally a
Speaker 9: guy in the corner his his uh office is just
Speaker 9: filled with bats.
Speaker 1: He started, Marouchi bats. You can tell the dude is
Speaker 1: an analytics data guy.
Speaker 9: Talking about analytics, how guys like what we're looking for
Speaker 9: is like you look at all the top guys and
Speaker 9: what they all possess, what's a common denominator with them,
Speaker 9: and that's who they're looking for. Like they are just
Speaker 9: fucking dialed in over there. Ahead of the game, we
Speaker 9: talked to Brian Kelly. Brian Kelly had the only kid
Speaker 9: only do fifteen minutes because he had to go and
Speaker 9: go the sports science thing because they're trying to make
Speaker 9: sure their guys are like on like doing all their
Speaker 9: shit the right way. It's really really incredible.
Speaker 2: And the cool and the cool thing about Coach Kelly,
Speaker 2: which is the best part of it, he's like, you know,
Speaker 2: the sports science saying like it's a good vessel and
Speaker 2: it's a good tool for everybody. It's not the end
Speaker 2: all be all, but he's like it's important to have
Speaker 2: these meetings so everybody in all these different departments are
Speaker 2: speaking the same language. It's not the training rooms doing
Speaker 2: their own thing, the weight rooms doing their own thing.
Speaker 2: Some of the strength coaches might have ways for you
Speaker 2: to rehab versus the training room or any of the
Speaker 2: mental coaches that they that they have and and uh,
Speaker 2: it's compensate to bring them on board. Like he wants
Speaker 2: everybody speaking the same language, so that way there's no
Speaker 2: discrepancies in the product, which is I think is that's
Speaker 2: the best part of it.
Speaker 1: That's that's what.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of stuff that happens with us in
Speaker 2: the NFL, and probably a lot of colleges too.
Speaker 10: Nothing, dude, I think so many people like think the
Speaker 10: NFL is like the pinnacle, the cream, like the cream
Speaker 10: of the crop that they have everything like done to
Speaker 10: a tea. Like sometimes it's a there, it's like chickens
Speaker 10: with their head cut off running around. I don't think
Speaker 10: people understand that from an organizational stand point. There's times
Speaker 10: even on the football field, like at least for me,
Speaker 10: like I've been in a situation where like I've literally
Speaker 10: seen Aaron drop like backyard plays. I'm like this in
Speaker 10: the most pinnacle moment where people like, oh this is
Speaker 10: where you go to your go to play Aaron will
Speaker 10: be like, hey, man, you would you like run against
Speaker 10: that guy?
Speaker 1: Hey, you do that this? And then next thing you know,
Speaker 1: like everyone's left and like we're lying standing there.
Speaker 10: We had like probably twelve seconds on the clock because
Speaker 10: Aaron loves burning every fucking second of the game clock.
Speaker 1: Like, so what kind of protection you want, dude?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 10: Just I don't know, like two jed or something, just
Speaker 10: like go go figure it out. And then he'll like go,
Speaker 10: my jeesus, n Yeah, it's money and I'll all take
Speaker 10: that any day. But like I'm looking at this too,
Speaker 10: and going back to these facilities, I'm like the first
Speaker 10: thing I'm thinking about for all these guys coming in
Speaker 10: the league.
Speaker 1: I'm like, boy, you're about to be disappointed. Bro, you
Speaker 1: are not locked.
Speaker 10: I think it's great, Like here's here's a check and
Speaker 10: then there's a wooden locker with no pad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see you later. At least that's what I've be.
Speaker 9: When we went to When we went to Michigan, we
Speaker 9: sat down with coach or Herb, who's like the string
Speaker 9: coach there, and we're like, hey, what's your program about?
Speaker 1: And he literally brought up this chart. Insane Bro.
Speaker 9: He's like we look at everybody's deficiencies and like then
Speaker 9: they'd have like color systems to rate it. He'd have
Speaker 9: number systems, all this stuff. He look sat with us
Speaker 9: for thirty minutes and broke everything down for us, and
Speaker 9: we walked away in a way where we're like, yo,
Speaker 9: we want to put yo, we want to Like if
Speaker 9: I would I would have been like, man, I should
Speaker 9: have trained here. He really is just putting shit together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, we asked this. I'm gonna play devils afka.
Speaker 10: Is it awesome from an outsider's perspective seeing like oh,
Speaker 10: I love the level care. But then it gets to
Speaker 10: a point of like, yo, I'm you know, we're in
Speaker 10: our thirties now, Like I'm thirty plus. Stop micromanaging me.
Speaker 10: I know how to do it myself. Like, would that
Speaker 10: also planifides like dude, leave me alone type thing?
Speaker 1: I know what I'm thinking. Depends on what your goals are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it depends on the mindset curity.
Speaker 9: For me personally, I want to find somebody that I
Speaker 9: completely trust and be like, all right, run the show.
Speaker 9: Just tell me what to do, and I'm gonna do
Speaker 9: it as hard as I can. Now, that's a fucking Lineman, Dude,
Speaker 9: that's the shit I like, I really want just I
Speaker 9: tell you exactly what to do, go fucking do it. Yes,
Speaker 9: especially when it comes to like training and stuff. I
Speaker 9: do not like writing my own programs. I don't like
Speaker 9: looking at my sk what do I have to do?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 9: I want somebody right next to me being like three
Speaker 9: sets of eighth here, then you go right here, right there,
Speaker 9: and you just fucking rip. That is like, agree what
Speaker 9: I'm all about in that situation as far as like micromanaging,
Speaker 9: like it'll show somebody's intelligence whether they're working with a
Speaker 9: twenty one year old or a thirty one year old,
Speaker 9: because if you have the same program for both those people,
Speaker 9: you're probably doing something wrong because the load on a
Speaker 9: twenty one year old you can be way different than
Speaker 9: if you've got a lot of tread taking off.
Speaker 1: The tires, especially if you're doing the movement too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: same movement all that. But dude, his focus on mobility,
Speaker 1: flexibility and like four strength and all.
Speaker 2: That was really say that that's those are the details
Speaker 2: that like we were more so wowed about.
Speaker 10: Okay, not necessarily whether like here's your day, like you're
Speaker 10: gonna be here, that I'm like, no, well, you know
Speaker 10: not like the not the.
Speaker 2: Weight training part, all the stuff with imbalances and like
Speaker 2: measuring you your range of motion everywhere in all these fosses,
Speaker 2: your hip capsule and everything else to where your degree
Speaker 2: your your degree might be very sure, right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and there's and there's not like hey, you're deficient
Speaker 9: in this, we should probably work on that. It's like
Speaker 9: you're deficient in this, and these are the things you
Speaker 9: need to do to fix it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you feel like sometimes like in your experience in
Speaker 10: the NFL, it's like they're just they do it, but
Speaker 10: it's more like we're just gonna check the box, like
Speaker 10: with the FMS test, you know, like those little things
Speaker 10: that you've gotten, Like we talked about getting like a
Speaker 10: barometer of like okay, let's see like where you're you know,
Speaker 10: your rear foot valgus varius, whatever the hell they want
Speaker 10: to find out like in your foot, your ankle, to
Speaker 10: your need like this.
Speaker 1: Kind of checking bucks back, but what are you really
Speaker 1: doing with it?
Speaker 10: And I find myself, I guess like I'm going to
Speaker 10: my eleventh year now, I'm like I hate wasting my time. Yeah,
Speaker 10: and there's now I've done Groundhog Day for eleven years now.
Speaker 10: I'm like, been the same hoopla on banter and like
Speaker 10: I keep seeing refine, we keep doing the same thing
Speaker 10: expecting different result, like one that's insanity too. I'm like,
Speaker 10: you're now wasting my fucking time. And we talk we
Speaker 10: all got kids, Like you can shave off about two hours.
Speaker 10: I mean, we really wanted to show about three hours
Speaker 10: my day. I can get home right, I could have
Speaker 10: my serotonin, my chakras all aline at all time, hibbing
Speaker 10: with my family, and then I come to work fucking
Speaker 10: ready to get after it.
Speaker 1: About efficiency like that, that's the thing.
Speaker 10: I just like hearing this thing and talking about getting
Speaker 10: all this all these barometers and being super efficient and
Speaker 10: using it as compared to like what I see the league.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this is just what are we doing?
Speaker 1: You sounding like he'd be doing something a watsco the
Speaker 1: air and using all those words shock waves and all
Speaker 1: that no shockers and just some of those things.
Speaker 2: I think when a team's trying to collect it, they're
Speaker 2: just trying to get like quantitative data like they're trying
Speaker 2: to do. They're checking the boxes, but they're trying to
Speaker 2: overall see the big pictures, they are not necessarily as folks, like.
Speaker 10: What are you doing with it? Like you can, you
Speaker 10: can gather all the information you want, but what are
Speaker 10: you doing with it? And if you're just gathering to
Speaker 10: check a box or like oh because you heard this,
Speaker 10: Like well do you even know how to use this information?
Speaker 1: Because if you don't, now you just wasted it.
Speaker 10: Like both our time, but like again for them, like
Speaker 10: they got to be there anyways, like the people work there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I think a big contrast of college and NFL is college.
Speaker 9: You they got those guys three and sixty five all
Speaker 9: the time, you can work on all that stuff and
Speaker 9: kind of work through it. I think in the NFL,
Speaker 9: when you look at the weightlifting programs in the training room,
Speaker 9: their main goal is to get you to Sunday. So
Speaker 9: if you're in the weight room, it's not gonna be like, hey,
Speaker 9: we're gonna try these different movements, like we need to
Speaker 9: hit these meat potatoes because we only know we're happy
Speaker 9: for only an hour between this time and that time
Speaker 9: before you have to go to meetings.
Speaker 1: And all that.
Speaker 9: They want to check some boxes rather than and saying
Speaker 9: make you better is a tough one because it makes
Speaker 9: it look bad for them, but really it's like we
Speaker 9: need to make sure these guys keep their strength, stay
Speaker 9: ahead of the sticks as much we as much as
Speaker 9: we can for as an amount of time we have
Speaker 9: with them.
Speaker 10: And then yeah, but being healthy hitting the meat and
Speaker 10: potatoes is like so if that's what you have, especially
Speaker 10: we don't have schooled work rounds, like all right, yo
Speaker 10: for for me, Like, you're not gonna load my backup
Speaker 10: like a standard Like I can't tell you the last
Speaker 10: time I put a heavy bar like on my upper
Speaker 10: neck and then squatted.
Speaker 1: That is not how I rolled. But like we like
Speaker 1: we're we're going to meet potatoes. We're all gonna do that.
Speaker 10: Like what like no put It's like there's so many
Speaker 10: different like machines and ways to go around it. Right,
Speaker 10: that's that type of stuff. Yeah, that's my I'm like what,
Speaker 10: I don't know, man, Sometimes it's just just that's the
Speaker 10: way we've always done it. That's what we're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I get a tough thing to hear. Oh dude,
Speaker 1: I get very very annoyed. This has been an incredible podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this has been a very good podcast. I've really enjoyed
Speaker 1: every minute of this all right?
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Speaker 1: Back to the Baktar episode.
Speaker 10: Okay, well here's the question where you can get to that,
Speaker 10: because we are talking about teeth in fresh miles.
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 9: Brother, Yeah, you didn't even talk about it. You shout,
Speaker 9: you shot like a video and I was like, oh,
Speaker 9: look at look at here. You didn't even want to
Speaker 9: recognize it and then eventually didn't like there it is.
Speaker 9: But why do even brush your teeth? You have faked teeth.
Speaker 9: That's a good there's no way they can. Oh yeah,
Speaker 9: thanks to get rolling. Now do you have to do
Speaker 9: you have to your teeth cleaned? Or do you even
Speaker 9: call it teeth cleaning?
Speaker 1: Now? What do you mean?
Speaker 11: Like?
Speaker 1: Is there not real teeth floss? You just call it likes?
Speaker 11: Now?
Speaker 9: Is it kind of like going like an auto body
Speaker 9: shop again? Like the yeah tune up you had like
Speaker 9: an oil change for the teeth. I just love sit talking.
Speaker 2: You know why I haven't been to the dentist since
Speaker 2: I got my teeth butt in, I can tell, which
Speaker 2: is why.
Speaker 1: One thing I noticed with these pieces is what dude
Speaker 1: gets caught in it any more? Why would? I'm just curious.
Speaker 9: I we know why. Yeah, it's great dude that you
Speaker 9: got fucking money. Dude, you have to colorados facilities before,
Speaker 9: That's what I'm saying. Fuck yeah, I trust me, I've
Speaker 9: been there. I'm generally curious, Like no, Homa, like I
Speaker 9: thought you had plenty of fine teeth.
Speaker 10: I'm just kind of curious, like it was just like
Speaker 10: a person like, you know what this how I like
Speaker 10: them all with them early whites because I see a
Speaker 10: bunch of my teammates coming and they said that that
Speaker 10: was the reason.
Speaker 1: So if that's what is, I'm cool. I respect. I
Speaker 1: just didn't.
Speaker 9: I didn't want to assume. I wanted to ask you directly,
Speaker 9: like that's a really good question. There's really like not
Speaker 9: a massive reason.
Speaker 1: There wasn't.
Speaker 9: I didn't have the Colorado facilities. I like, when Will
Speaker 9: got them, I was like, damn, those things look really
Speaker 9: stra right now, and we'll be there.
Speaker 1: Hey, listen for those of you watch, we'll be there tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't know when Will got them. I liked them
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 9: And then I see these dudes coming in all the time,
Speaker 9: and I'm I really thought to myself, why not I
Speaker 9: just do them straight white? They look good, So I'm
Speaker 9: just gonna get it done.
Speaker 1: I definitely don't hate it.
Speaker 11: Now.
Speaker 1: Don't they have to like shave them down the nubs though?
Speaker 9: No, it depends if you have to do like I think,
Speaker 9: I don't know the right word invasive or non invasive.
Speaker 9: And my teeth were like God's a smaller end. Yeah,
Speaker 9: had them chick lits. Yeah, he had them a little bit.
Speaker 9: That that's why I would like out. But mine mine
Speaker 9: they like just shaved a little bit and then my
Speaker 9: real teeth are still there. They just put like stuff
Speaker 9: on it. And that's what I'm scared about, Like I
Speaker 9: don't want them, but you got nice teeth. I don't
Speaker 9: have great teeth. Well, I mean like they're not good teeth. Yeah,
Speaker 9: they're fine, but like I just I don't know.
Speaker 10: I thought was like, yeah, I I never had braces,
Speaker 10: but I got this like little alligator tooth kind of
Speaker 10: hanging low, Like yeah, I thought about it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, dude, like I'm not gonna.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's you thinking about more than anybody.
Speaker 2: Like I see what you're seeing, but I don't think
Speaker 2: like that. And that's my part that you think I'll
Speaker 2: ever get like fake teeth. But I'm just kind of curious.
Speaker 10: Like I know certain guys, I'm like, yo, you need
Speaker 10: some fucking fake teeth, Like my boy Elton Jenkins, Like
Speaker 10: I was like, that's I'm so happy as you did
Speaker 10: because of them fucking bitches. When he came in, I
Speaker 10: made fun of I called him like a pencil shopper mouth.
Speaker 10: His ship was fucked up. Yeah, and he also had
Speaker 10: all the pensilhopper shavings and there they fucking never cleaned
Speaker 10: his teeth. Oh, I want to say to God, I'm
Speaker 10: so happy he did. Yeah, he's gonna be pissed me.
Speaker 10: I'm I'm saying this, he's got great teeth. Now he's
Speaker 10: like showing it off, like good for you, like you
Speaker 10: you deserve. Then there's other guys. I'm like, use use
Speaker 10: an example. I'm like, dude, your teeth are great, Like
Speaker 10: I don't. I really had to know home. I like
Speaker 10: started stalking and went back to like you didn't have teeth.
Speaker 1: You got to say that here we're we're pro homo here.
Speaker 10: Okay, Well, but like uh, I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 10: didn't never saw anything wrong with teeth, Like I always
Speaker 10: thought there was like gott to be like a legit reason.
Speaker 10: Like guys either got too small teeth they don't have
Speaker 10: like the gum ratio, or they got fucking Colorado facility,
Speaker 10: like o g Coloro facility going on.
Speaker 1: I know, No, that's it.
Speaker 9: That is a thing where it's like I I wish
Speaker 9: I had a good reason to do it, but at
Speaker 9: the end that they just wanted.
Speaker 1: To keep you to get it, like assim plants or
Speaker 1: like calfin plants.
Speaker 9: Out about doing my ass a little bit. But I've
Speaker 9: been doing a lot of ardill s lately.
Speaker 1: Do ardials get glutes? Yeah, they do. I guess I
Speaker 1: don't do them good. I've been backspoating two I know.
Speaker 1: So you don't do backspot taxpats like the number one thing.
Speaker 1: I feel like, but hang on, hang on you you.
Speaker 2: I feel like you were like that at one point
Speaker 2: in time when we train with dobs and stuff, you
Speaker 2: were not ever about putting anything on your spine.
Speaker 9: Yes, you're right, so yeah, never, it was never because
Speaker 9: I'm just saying he had that. I feel like you've
Speaker 9: just recently. We would always do the safe safety bar lunges, yeah,
Speaker 9: and stuff doing eccentric lifts.
Speaker 10: So I'll do the bear squad. I just won't put
Speaker 10: a bar on my back probably more than two twenty five.
Speaker 10: If it's gonna go above that, you're gonna put the
Speaker 10: little the one that disperses the way because there's no
Speaker 10: point putting on my spine. Every time I did it,
Speaker 10: and then I realized, like, why is my back, keep
Speaker 10: getting thrown out or getting sucked up.
Speaker 1: I'm not about this. You know what, dude.
Speaker 9: When the reason I stopped putting weight to my back
Speaker 9: is I would see the older guys not putting way
Speaker 9: on their back and then always have back issues. And
Speaker 9: they would always say it's because I did a back squad.
Speaker 9: It's not good for you, all this stuff. So I
Speaker 9: kind of bought into that. But Ryan suck up the
Speaker 9: kicker for the for Tampa Bay. He was at the
Speaker 9: Titans for a long time. Always had knee pain. Always,
Speaker 9: always he was always flying somewhere, flying somewhere, getting u
Speaker 9: what was that stuff called regink? Jenna came, Yes, you
Speaker 9: would always do that, like, yeah, I feel good. Then
Speaker 9: a couple months later and I thought he was gonna
Speaker 9: be done. I would talk to him at the Titans.
Speaker 9: He'd be like, yeah, I probably got one year. Maybe
Speaker 9: it was like a year to your thing. He's working
Speaker 9: out in the same place I'm doing rehab.
Speaker 1: I asked him. I was like, hey, what happened. What happened? Like,
Speaker 1: does your nee feel good now? It's like my mine
Speaker 1: feels fantastic, Like what's the biggest difference? He is, Like
Speaker 1: I started backsquatting, and I never had back pain or
Speaker 1: anything like that. I've never been a backpain.
Speaker 9: I've had a couple of flare ups here and there,
Speaker 9: but I've never had like back issues.
Speaker 1: So I was like, let me just do this and
Speaker 1: it's good for like, you know, when when do you
Speaker 1: start doing it?
Speaker 9: I leg you well, after this second acl we started
Speaker 9: back is when like, yeah, once I was able to
Speaker 9: start loading well, I would put put weight on my
Speaker 9: back and I did like you know, two seventy five
Speaker 9: or ten the other day, and I have no back
Speaker 9: pain or nothing. It's like it helps a lot, it
Speaker 9: really does. So I don't know something to think about.
Speaker 1: But your load?
Speaker 10: Is it the load or this this year because like
Speaker 10: I'm not against loading against the actual just old og
Speaker 10: bar going on my upper neck and loading that thing
Speaker 10: super heavy like I'll two twenty five is probably the most.
Speaker 9: Well you could probably you do a safety bar squad. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I get fine, I can do that, and I'll load
Speaker 9: that thing up like four. You know, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 9: I'll get that thing up high.
Speaker 10: Like but I just like it because it's not strictly
Speaker 10: on my spine going straight down before it's like.
Speaker 1: That, I just don't play with the thing that squats
Speaker 1: do that a lot of those other alternate movements don't do.
Speaker 1: Is like it works your entire body.
Speaker 9: Like it's quads, it's your glutes, it's your core, it's
Speaker 9: strengthening your back as well. It's like it's so many things. Now,
Speaker 9: when you get on a pitch shark and you put
Speaker 9: the belt around your waist, you're still working your quads,
Speaker 9: but now you're missing you're missing the core, you're missing
Speaker 9: the back, You're not getting as much.
Speaker 1: What's a bear squad? The one that goes over you
Speaker 1: like your shoulders. You ever been that thing?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Squad?
Speaker 10: Uh kind of you know the one that like you
Speaker 10: can like load weight up on here and you like
Speaker 10: you stand up on it and like you pop that thing,
Speaker 10: drop it down. Then you just do some squats and
Speaker 10: the weight's going over your shoulders. And then you have
Speaker 10: like the you're talking about where you stand like.
Speaker 2: It's a coat comes across like this goes across your
Speaker 2: neck and you hold you hold it, hold it like
Speaker 2: right here, or you can put your hands in front,
Speaker 2: go up, go up.
Speaker 9: I think I just saw this right here. Yeah, exactly that. Yeah,
Speaker 9: the Kaiser machine the Kaiser machine. Yeah, the Kaiser machine
Speaker 9: is great and it's air, so like you get.
Speaker 10: Okay, but there's there's one that actual weight like that
Speaker 10: act like I've used that, and I've used the weight one.
Speaker 9: Any type of machine workout you're doing, it's isolated. So
Speaker 9: if you're doing like a bench press on a machine
Speaker 9: where the place on the side and you're holding it,
Speaker 9: you're taking out the stability you would use in your shoulders.
Speaker 9: The same thing with this would go is you're now
Speaker 9: taking out the core aspect of it as much because
Speaker 9: you don't have to stabilize when you walk a right
Speaker 9: because it's fixed. Okay, So because it's a fix. If
Speaker 9: we do safety safety bar squad and normal back like backswade,
Speaker 9: now we're playing the same game. You're playing a similar game,
Speaker 9: and you're not necessarily playing the same game because the
Speaker 9: safety bar squad it still comes over and it's more stable.
Speaker 9: But there is that point of like when you're getting down,
Speaker 9: you have to ignite everything in here to go up
Speaker 9: and down, you know. And I'm thinking at a turn
Speaker 9: a little bit because I'm not a professor. I'm not
Speaker 9: I don't know this stuff professionally.
Speaker 1: It's what I've bar in the back squad.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the similar of like going to
Speaker 2: a front squat. It just kind of changes where the load.
Speaker 9: Is going to be on right, yeah, right, Like if
Speaker 9: on squat's always more like that's you guys like to
Speaker 9: load more on your back or your front right now?
Speaker 1: For me in my front, I didn't. I'm up for both, brother,
Speaker 1: how much how much time you got, buddy? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry that was right now because I have I have
Speaker 1: some some low back. Yeah, Will's got Will's got a
Speaker 1: little s I deal. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have you
Speaker 1: ever followed knees over toes?
Speaker 10: I follows the account. Yeah, I started doing it when
Speaker 10: I heard that. He said he felt really good from that.
Speaker 2: I asked him, and then he's like, yeah, I did
Speaker 2: that thing and that's what like put me over, like
Speaker 2: put me back to where I was.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 9: So, and he's slowly like the like sign up for
Speaker 9: stuff though, so like I just kind of look to
Speaker 9: sign up for it.
Speaker 1: There's some good news. He wants to come on the bus,
Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna come down a visit for
Speaker 1: a couple of days of that workouts with him. You
Speaker 1: should come, I would love that. Yeah, that'd be cool.
Speaker 9: I think it is in his you know, progression program.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna be pissed if you guys don't. Yeah, definitely
Speaker 9: will who will hold on when? Though I don't know,
Speaker 9: I always a little bit I gotta go back from
Speaker 9: that's right.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll make sure it's in the summer. We can do.
Speaker 1: That comes in during O T s and we don't
Speaker 1: have a choice. Yeah, do you ever come? Do you
Speaker 1: ever come during the weekends? Dude? I mean day, name
Speaker 1: your day, I'm coming. Yeah, Hey, oh I'm gonna come.
Speaker 1: That was actually dare come, I'm gonna come. I think
Speaker 1: you're trying to send me up. Are you talking?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Hars are you doing? Was that Hillary? Or yeah, dare come?
Speaker 1: Don't you come? I'm gonna come?
Speaker 10: Okay, So I saw another good meme that's that, and
Speaker 10: it's like, Yo, these DJ beats be going crazy and
Speaker 10: this they kept building up being don't you, dare come,
Speaker 10: don't you? And then it gets building up and then
Speaker 10: all of a sudden, four drops you see, don't I'm
Speaker 10: gonna come?
Speaker 1: And yeah, I've seen that same video. That's funny, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he what I was saying is his progression is
Speaker 2: he ultimately not get you into backsquading, but there's so
Speaker 2: many stages that he has to where you're kind of
Speaker 2: like taking care of your body as you're progressing to
Speaker 2: like a backsquad or anything.
Speaker 10: I've been falling like some of the things like for
Speaker 10: to be Alice. Yeahah, I've been doing a bunch of those,
Speaker 10: and now more i've been. I look at his lunch thing,
Speaker 10: and like he says progressions, I get to one, I
Speaker 10: guess is like pain free.
Speaker 1: I've been walking backwards a ship ton just like.
Speaker 2: You probably get walking back. We'll probably give you access
Speaker 2: to all of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is. He definitely extremely innovative.
Speaker 9: But I'm anxious to hear what do you have to
Speaker 9: say about this because I was talking to some PT people,
Speaker 9: third party PT people, and they're like, that stuff's not
Speaker 9: good for athletes. It should be just training where they're at, Like,
Speaker 9: if you're in a stance, you shouldn't go below ninety degrees.
Speaker 9: I didn't ask too many more questions because I really
Speaker 9: didn't know. I told you I'm not going to say
Speaker 9: I say because I have a lot of respect for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's places in the programming to where
Speaker 2: when you get closer to training for sport, you get
Speaker 2: more of any sports specific stance. But I think when
Speaker 2: you get in the first part of the off season,
Speaker 2: like the first sixteen weeks are going up into OTAs,
Speaker 2: is the time to work on your range of motion,
Speaker 2: your mobility, like finding big ranges to work in, because
Speaker 2: you can get a guy who is more sports specific
Speaker 2: and they never go below there and they have whatever
Speaker 2: on the back, let's just use back squad, and when
Speaker 2: you narrow their stands or make them go lower, they'll
Speaker 2: more so crumble because they're not built.
Speaker 1: They don't have the stability to go down that low.
Speaker 2: Now, if you take somebody who's been developing more of
Speaker 2: a more of a narrow sports specific stance that goes
Speaker 2: as to grass, once you get more into we're not
Speaker 2: going below ninety, you get it maybe a little bit
Speaker 2: wider stands than everything else. Their numbers are gonna flourish
Speaker 2: because they've been built from the foundation to build out
Speaker 2: like their range of motion.
Speaker 10: I think both of you guys are actually right because
Speaker 10: think about it, like what makes sense on a simple equation.
Speaker 10: You strengthen where you're gonna be working, You protect yourself
Speaker 10: and you are stronger, so you don't put yourself in
Speaker 10: commradise position, go your way, And that I believe too
Speaker 10: is football is a very chaotic sport. You're gonna be
Speaker 10: at some point caught right out of commer spot somewhere.
Speaker 10: Don't let the first time be when you're caught and
Speaker 10: you don't know how much force, because then then it's
Speaker 10: like the variability goes into play. You don't know how
Speaker 10: much force there, so then it comes into that which
Speaker 10: that's how I've also trained too, is like getting the
Speaker 10: spots you a little uncomfortable and strengthen those areas for
Speaker 10: the chance, so then you own where you are strong
Speaker 10: and then when you're not, at least you have the
Speaker 10: reaction the reaction point the same thing. Like neurologically, there's
Speaker 10: a there's a couple of times like I'll always end
Speaker 10: that I was told like always end when you're fatigued
Speaker 10: doing a bunch of stability stuff because you're unstable, that's
Speaker 10: when things like that's where bad things can go. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 10: then the neurologicy and also just like get in that
Speaker 10: last little bit of a conditioning and the muscle, like
Speaker 10: how can it perform once it's so fatigue, Can you
Speaker 10: still lock it in and be stable?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say when we were doing that triphasic
Speaker 2: stuff too, that one summer when we're at Bandy and
Speaker 2: you're doing more you know, eccentric for the first few weeks,
Speaker 2: then the isometric for the second part of the programming,
Speaker 2: and then in the third party was concentric, and then
Speaker 2: like peaking going up to the training camp was more
Speaker 2: of like being in all those very sports specific for
Speaker 2: those last few weeks just to create more.
Speaker 1: Forces is really really good. That was actually Rex right
Speaker 1: who wrote this program.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Rex is kind of the genius behind of the programming.
Speaker 2: Dobb is just you know, Dobb's just the boy. Dobb
Speaker 2: knows his shit. But Rex is like the mad little
Speaker 2: scientists behind. Yeah, studying a lot of the Nordic ham string.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 10: I love anytime you're a mad scientist, or like anytime
Speaker 10: you're trying to think around the corner it comes to
Speaker 10: health performance, Like I actually gravitate more truth, yeah, because
Speaker 10: like what you've already done, like, yeah, that's good for now,
Speaker 10: but like I'm trying to be what's next. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 10: trying to always like get back, you know the way.
Speaker 2: That they think, they adapt in their thinking, like maybe
Speaker 2: something's not working at that moment. You know, they're going
Speaker 2: to go into their little lab and try to figure
Speaker 2: something out to make you to help. Maybe it's an
Speaker 2: alternative that you don't want to say. You don't want
Speaker 2: to load your back, right, he doesn't want to work
Speaker 2: in this capacity, Like let's find alternatives.
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna adapt in their things.
Speaker 10: Let me just ask this, like, do you want a
Speaker 10: doctor that graduated in fucking nineteen eighty two that looked
Speaker 10: the eighty two textbook and now is like cutting you up?
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, that's that's what I knew and
Speaker 1: he was a stud then.
Speaker 10: But I'm like, look, how much like how much more
Speaker 10: information and how much better technology has gotten the last
Speaker 10: what is that almost forty years? So would you still
Speaker 10: want to rely on that guy or like the new
Speaker 10: upcoming dude who's like, oh, we learned that this is
Speaker 10: a better way to go about it and this is
Speaker 10: and like I would be like, Okay, I don't want
Speaker 10: like the fresh guy like hey, this is my first
Speaker 10: time doing it and I probably from this, but like
Speaker 10: sweet spot, Yeah, there's.
Speaker 2: That sweet Maybe that old guy if he's adapted his
Speaker 2: thinking and got with the times versus strictly being Neil Latrosh.
Speaker 1: He's, hey, yeah, that's a dude. That is my guy. Dude,
Speaker 1: I fucking love Elatrosh. He he's he's a stud. Like
Speaker 1: he's got like that just like it.
Speaker 10: And I was like pissed because when I first met I,
Speaker 10: when I finally met him, like damn, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Should have met you earlier because you are like what
Speaker 2: the first time I got that. That's why I did
Speaker 2: my guy in Green Bay, Pat McKenzie.
Speaker 1: And he's awesome.
Speaker 10: And I don't discredit anything from what like this isn't
Speaker 10: me alluding to any of this like up and downs
Speaker 10: with my injury because of him. He was awesome by
Speaker 10: like I know, like after sitting with Neil, damn, like, yo,
Speaker 10: you you're tight. I was a little like wary because
Speaker 10: I just didn't know. But like now that you know again,
Speaker 10: you live and you learn. H'm like Nils, he's had
Speaker 10: that swag about him.
Speaker 1: Swag. He's got that look.
Speaker 9: I've said it before, like he looks like he's got
Speaker 9: a little bit of work done, but it's a classy amount.
Speaker 9: He's got a calm confidence about him, Dude, you when
Speaker 9: you talk to him, he like he doesn't react talk
Speaker 9: to you. He digested it for a second and then
Speaker 9: he comes in with something that blows you away. Very smart,
Speaker 9: extremely confident, but a great dude. I'm a huge I
Speaker 9: cannot say enough good.
Speaker 1: Things about that.
Speaker 9: I I That's how I told him with him too,
Speaker 9: and that's why I like, like after I was like, yeah, yeah, definitely, you.
Speaker 1: Guys make me want to just go get random knee surgery,
Speaker 1: but you didn't. He didn't have to be just in general, Yeah,
Speaker 1: John's he does it all, fix everything. He's he's the
Speaker 1: fucking top dog man. He really is the best in
Speaker 1: the game. No, so all all the stuff that you've
Speaker 1: everyone has heard about him, but he's like that. He's
Speaker 1: like that where he's like always thinking towards the future
Speaker 1: and what did you did you do so with them?
Speaker 1: Yeah this past one? Yeah, so did you not see?
Speaker 10: Like when you sign one of the forms, it's like, hey,
Speaker 10: I'm going to be using some of the things I've
Speaker 10: learned my.
Speaker 1: Own prietary way.
Speaker 10: You're agreeing that you're okay with me doing some of
Speaker 10: his ways that he's learned from, Like, hey, after doing
Speaker 10: so much like, I'm just gonna perfect this, right, I
Speaker 10: can do what the old thing was, Like, I really like,
Speaker 10: I respect like people that that do that.
Speaker 1: So I noticed a massive difference. He's been there, you
Speaker 1: go all the time. Dude, he really is good. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you did give him plug Neil's study. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: boy man met you one day.
Speaker 9: His whole crew is awesome people people he works with,
Speaker 9: like the the rehab people out there, they're great, awesome,
Speaker 9: awesome man.
Speaker 1: It's only that he's in la and that's the only thing.
Speaker 9: I'm like, God, I know, but it is nice to
Speaker 9: visit La. Is you get to the weather, great food,
Speaker 9: and you're such a warm weather guy. I can't like
Speaker 9: it's still kind of like frustrating.
Speaker 10: Does frustrate me a little because I'm like this again,
Speaker 10: i haven't been here for a full year yet and
Speaker 10: we're getting back to like Okay, I'm here, but like
Speaker 10: it's not that bad. And I remember I remember talking
Speaker 10: to you like, oh, I gotta be something like you know,
Speaker 10: I I know you're from Arizona.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, dude, first of all, fuck Arizona. That heat.
Speaker 1: No fucking you.
Speaker 2: Could have said it differently. You could have said it
Speaker 2: that there. I feel the same way. I remember I
Speaker 2: went the like so Daniel money lives out there, and
Speaker 2: I remember I went fucking boy Dan, by the way,
Speaker 2: that's I know that's your guy.
Speaker 10: Yeah, uh yeah, I got again. When when you're like
Speaker 10: in like my really close, I got it. That's like
Speaker 10: og og guy. I remember going visit and it was
Speaker 10: a summer and I'm like, fuck this, I got a
Speaker 10: bachelor party. I gotta go out there in June and
Speaker 10: I'm dreading it. That's one of your friends for going
Speaker 10: out there in June. Like, listen, you made enough money,
Speaker 10: you go out to Arizona. Told you I got like
Speaker 10: a couple of guys og that these are like childish
Speaker 10: friends hanging your money.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about them, I'm talking about you.
Speaker 9: Like there ain't no reason to be in Arizona between
Speaker 9: the months of late May to October.
Speaker 1: Ain't gotta do it. Shouldn't do it.
Speaker 9: You're a bad person if you do do it. If
Speaker 9: you go late October, who probably around right now, it's
Speaker 9: the best weather ever, Sun's suns out every single day.
Speaker 9: People are driving nice vehicles because they can't because there's
Speaker 9: no rusting going on there. Because it's a dry climate.
Speaker 9: You don't have a bunch of sea salt coming in.
Speaker 9: There's no salt in the road from the winter. Having
Speaker 9: a great time. There's great events out there. You got
Speaker 9: spring training, fun fucking times. You want to go in
Speaker 9: the mountains. Brother, drive an hour and a half north.
Speaker 9: You get four seasons up there. Got your donut.
Speaker 1: I am not going to sit here and let you
Speaker 1: have so few in Arizona. Get the Arizona pull it out.
Speaker 1: How many times you've been, how many times you've been,
Speaker 1: You're gonna go.
Speaker 9: So you're saying, like my mom dated a firefighter up
Speaker 9: and Payson, we used to go up there, all calm,
Speaker 9: all right, But you're you're telling me like, hey, ski season,
Speaker 9: I'm gonna go to Flaxman look instead of like huh
Speaker 9: you know, like uh, maybe go to like probably maybe
Speaker 9: maybe go to the Rockies fifty one degrees look look
Speaker 9: up and look it up in uh in January February.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, image weather. I think it's fantastic. Love it.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's I mean, I don't think it's terrible.
Speaker 1: A lot of the boys would disagree black stuff at all.
Speaker 10: Again, I'm compared to Green Bay, Like, I know, ship weather,
Speaker 10: you want to kind of see ship weather.
Speaker 1: You can hang out different.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that's also you could have probably the
Speaker 9: best trading program in the world in Green Bay. People
Speaker 9: still aren't going to stay there. No disrespect to people
Speaker 9: in Green Bay. The people you do it there. You
Speaker 9: guys are built different.
Speaker 1: But I'm not Taylor's prose shine guy. No, I know,
Speaker 1: I remember remember shining guy. Than I am prois.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like it's that lack of sun here
Speaker 2: though for me. See, we got some of the boys,
Speaker 2: they get like sea sort of depression. You guys, do
Speaker 2: they buy the stock there? Mike, Mike, the weather's not bad,
Speaker 2: but it's just gray all the time. And yes, no sun.
Speaker 2: And you want a perfect example right now, look outside, Okay,
Speaker 2: go look at the weather for Sunday to Thursday next week.
Speaker 2: So you're you're telling me these three days like that's it.
Speaker 2: I gotta move like I can't. I can't do full time.
Speaker 9: It's April. Now, what are we talking about? Okay, when
Speaker 9: I first got your nuay, it wasn't that bad.
Speaker 1: What do you what are you talking about us? It was,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I will take I will take gra
Speaker 1: will take gray over like one time talking about the
Speaker 1: winter season. Experience every season to the fullest degree. Here
Speaker 1: we can get snow, we can get here, we get humidity.
Speaker 1: You don't experience fall in spring. You get three weeks
Speaker 1: both of those. What oh brother, no, no, no, my god.
Speaker 1: Weeks are amazing, but a full grab grab it the emotion.
Speaker 9: No fall here, you get fall here, I'm saying you,
Speaker 9: but you don't get the full experience of all that.
Speaker 10: No, I disagree because I saw I've seen photos and
Speaker 10: my wife who came out here green Bay. You No,
Speaker 10: I'm not saying. I'm saying green Bay like they're like,
Speaker 10: fall is gorgeous. The worst thing about it is that
Speaker 10: when the leaves turn, it drops so quick. Here they
Speaker 10: at least stay for like double amount of time, Like
Speaker 10: talking six to eight weeks to get this color.
Speaker 1: This color is beautiful.
Speaker 9: Six to eight weeks. God, yes, definitely get on. It
Speaker 9: starts dropping in October. By the end of November, that's
Speaker 9: a week, week week.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, Yes, I'll take that.
Speaker 9: That's what I'm saying. Like Greeny, it's like because it
Speaker 9: gets so cold so quick. Here's what I don't Like,
Speaker 9: here's what I don't like. Why are we even talking
Speaker 9: about Green Bay. We're talking about nice nice ship. Look
Speaker 9: because I fucking I love Yeah, I love Nashville. I
Speaker 9: fucking love I love Nashville. If there is a negative
Speaker 9: of Nashville, it's the weather, point blank.
Speaker 1: It's not that sunny. It rains a lot.
Speaker 9: And listen, when it's sunny, it's phenomenal. Those couple of
Speaker 9: saturdays we had at the pool. You you ain't beating that.
Speaker 1: It's like seventy degrees sons outside. We're happy to say.
Speaker 3: If you go to your Twitter in the last month,
Speaker 3: like half your tweets are like, weather's phenomenal in Nashville.
Speaker 1: Like, dude, tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 9: Though last week it was great, this week ass before that,
Speaker 9: before that great.
Speaker 1: I love this, I love this, and now we have
Speaker 1: this next week amazing. It's gonna be fucking amazing. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm part of the p A right now,
Speaker 1: like the way getting mad, Like I feel like you're
Speaker 1: young Homer right here.
Speaker 9: Brother, you literally said, Arizona, if you could live here
Speaker 9: in the winter time, you would.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I didn't have to pay for anything, if
Speaker 3: everything was perfect in this world, it.
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that, it doesn't mean that he's bad. Just
Speaker 1: want to live in Arizona.
Speaker 9: What I'm saying, Arizona rips at that time with the
Speaker 9: time you're going brother, your friends fucked up.
Speaker 1: So I'll say this sweet all the time. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying Arizona. Arizona is bad at all.
Speaker 10: I do agree there are some good times overall when
Speaker 10: I'm like, and this is this came like I legit
Speaker 10: asked my wife Frank. I was like, yo, like, do
Speaker 10: you want to go live in areas? We were just
Speaker 10: trying to find a place to live in Arizona came
Speaker 10: up and we looked. I had studied like the weather
Speaker 10: reports that I was going to be on the season
Speaker 10: because I'm like, anyone can listenwhere when it's nice, what
Speaker 10: happens when the ship hits, like when you get the
Speaker 10: shitty weather, and then that's what kind of started like
Speaker 10: drawing here. I'm like, this ain't that bad, Like you
Speaker 10: don't have like that those low flows, like the tornado thing,
Speaker 10: like that's the only thing that kind of freaks me
Speaker 10: out being a California guy, which I'm sure if I
Speaker 10: talk earthquakes, you're like, what the fuck but I'll say,
Speaker 10: like I was in California, California says like the pinnacle
Speaker 10: of weather. But albos LCAs, I mean you start throwing
Speaker 10: all the other stuff. Yeah, exactly, taxes lie the people.
Speaker 10: You can find your little clicks of like good people,
Speaker 10: but overall, like I can I say, California, especially southern California,
Speaker 10: is like when you're prom king and prompt queen, you
Speaker 10: got a ticket, one way ticket to California. Everyone thinks
Speaker 10: that this is their road. It's there, like they have
Speaker 10: the right of way, they get to go through the door.
Speaker 10: No one says please, like it's just so hard to like.
Speaker 10: It pisses me off, like come in here, like someone
Speaker 10: just holds it open for me. That's so like I'm
Speaker 10: not asking you to hold doorpin, nor do I need to,
Speaker 10: but if my hands are full, they're at least acknowledging
Speaker 10: that and doing that and saying please and thank you
Speaker 10: yes or no, they're like, ugh, like I give me
Speaker 10: a little bit of rain, Like I'm cool with that
Speaker 10: because like in La yeah, I get great weather, but
Speaker 10: come summertime too, that shit kind of sucks.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 10: I'm not a huge fan of super hot weather. And
Speaker 10: I was also living in the valley and that's kind
Speaker 10: of desert y. It's hot, But I do know Arizona,
Speaker 10: Like that's a different type of heat. It's hot taught
Speaker 10: us like the South. Again, I'm sure, like there's two
Speaker 10: months here. I haven't experienced summer yet, but I'm sure
Speaker 10: that the swamp summer is fucking tough, right, You get like,
Speaker 10: is it that bad?
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, it's like anywhere you've been where
Speaker 2: it gets humid and it's a Missouri humidity though, because
Speaker 2: like I've dealt with some like terrible Misouri humanity, I've
Speaker 2: also seen similar.
Speaker 1: It's similar.
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's a there's a couple of weeks in the
Speaker 9: summertime you're like, hey, this is pretty tough to deal
Speaker 9: with bugs.
Speaker 1: And compared to Arizona.
Speaker 10: Uh like Arizona Arizona like summer heat versus like Tennessee
Speaker 10: or Nashville, it's a totally different Which one's worse.
Speaker 9: I think there's there's pros and cons to both. I
Speaker 9: think when you're talking strictly weather, just the weather Arizona
Speaker 9: is worse. You bring in and this is and the
Speaker 9: longevity of the heat is worse. Now the thing that
Speaker 9: would bring Nashville up to the worst category is when
Speaker 9: you when you add in the bugs and all that.
Speaker 1: Bad of the bugs. I don't it gets fucking pretty bad.
Speaker 1: It's pretty bad. Ain't like that, but it's it's like
Speaker 1: it's kind of annoying. It's annoying, like you always gonna
Speaker 1: have some sort of prayer.
Speaker 8: Bad.
Speaker 1: They're out they're out here. It succulent blood. I know
Speaker 1: those motherfuckers love this ship. I'm I'm worried. Oh they're
Speaker 1: out They're out there. I'm worried they're out there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they're out there. They're gonna get your ass for sure.
Speaker 9: But we're talking a very short span of time. So
Speaker 9: like you would still put Arizona at that. One thing
Speaker 9: that I would give grace to in Arizona is you
Speaker 9: catch some shade. It drops like ten fifteen degrees right
Speaker 9: there because it's so dry, it's boom boom.
Speaker 1: I can't, you can't. One thing. I'll give days you
Speaker 1: catch some shade.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean where in Arizona, bro, and your car
Speaker 9: is outside and you go to get in there, you
Speaker 9: you better pray to God that little buckle doesn't touch
Speaker 9: your skin because you're getting third degrees.
Speaker 1: It's gonna fucking hurt.
Speaker 2: Like I'm legit, Like when I went to go visit,
Speaker 2: like the whole like put your that thing and the
Speaker 2: little suns same thing, like they actually have to do
Speaker 2: it because the sun's that bad.
Speaker 10: I'm like, damn, Like that's a that's a different breed.
Speaker 10: Like I've dealt with like heat like in California, like
Speaker 10: it's hot. I never put that thing. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 10: my car's can be a little hot, so be it.
Speaker 10: But like if you don't, your car is fucked. Yeah,
Speaker 10: or even like it'll damage like the like the what
Speaker 10: what would you call it? The dash of your car?
Speaker 10: Like see, that's where I'm like, yo, like not to
Speaker 10: mention we're big guys, fuck that, I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 10: just gonna be sweating all. I hate sweating. I'd rather
Speaker 10: be in cold weather than hot weather.
Speaker 1: That's where we different.
Speaker 10: I'm an air on being cold than hot. Why I
Speaker 10: got all of skin still in a little pigment?
Speaker 9: You do?
Speaker 2: You have a great little I just went to Hawaii.
Speaker 2: I got a little extra Also, good for you, humble brag.
Speaker 2: I know, I am yeah, I kind of felt I'm
Speaker 2: like yeah.
Speaker 9: Which brings me to another point, like, you don't got
Speaker 9: to live somewhere year round. I mean for your kids, Yeah,
Speaker 9: not necessarily. What do you gonna do have them go
Speaker 9: to different schools? No home you get homeschool. You can
Speaker 9: do a whole bunch of stuff. And your kid's young.
Speaker 9: I want to find somewhere I can just entrench myself.
Speaker 9: Which I love that too, finding a culture and living
Speaker 9: in it. Yeah, that's the move for sure.
Speaker 1: I love that. Now let me pause this real quick.
Speaker 1: You Arizona a little hard? No, I didn't. I don't
Speaker 1: think he did. He has brother. Arizona's not that sweet, now, no,
Speaker 1: I will. You are not that good. Arizona is not
Speaker 1: that good? What about it?
Speaker 2: Arizona's not that sweet? Just all the brown, Like, it's
Speaker 2: just not that. Every every building looks in the dirt
Speaker 2: in that yeah, every building.
Speaker 9: People say that to me. But I with like, sunsets
Speaker 9: are amazing. I love the like the cat die, I
Speaker 9: I mess with that vibe. That's Arizona, Nashville, Arizona. Wow,
Speaker 9: there's some nice ones really close. I don't know the
Speaker 9: colors here.
Speaker 1: Colors you are great.
Speaker 9: Obviously you haven't caught a Google Google the images, Jack,
Speaker 9: google the images.
Speaker 1: This is the amount you're gonna did you catch?
Speaker 9: You catch a silhouette of a desert landscape under a
Speaker 9: purple and gold sky. There's a lot of plus in Arizona,
Speaker 9: a lot of plus. I do like that that brown
Speaker 9: look though, I think that's awesome.
Speaker 1: I can get. I can get.
Speaker 2: I understand it like that, Like you said that right there,
Speaker 2: Like that's based on photos. It looks like as he
Speaker 2: has the sunset.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And that is the thing that plays into it too,
Speaker 9: Like there's a lot of a lot of flourishing trees
Speaker 9: around here.
Speaker 1: You can see further kind of getting better.
Speaker 2: Midwest has better people than the West Coast, Midwest, Southern.
Speaker 1: I don't he's bringing Missouri into place. I don't know who.
Speaker 2: You get more hospitality around here than you. Arizona is
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, it's everybody's done up out there.
Speaker 2: Everybody's got the cars. It's like it's similar to.
Speaker 4: Like in l A.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at this the third photo in that's a
Speaker 1: bond Terra sunset right there, which one Missouri right there here.
Speaker 1: Let's go, buddy, that's that's from the top of the chat. Though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I guess. I mean, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of there's there are a
Speaker 1: lot of friends. You just wouldn't. I just I just
Speaker 1: don't think you'd survived in Missouri.
Speaker 3: Just tell me why we can talk after you wanted
Speaker 3: to bring this up now, No, that's so I wanted
Speaker 3: to say, all right, that's fine. Yeah, hey, Jack, you
Speaker 3: talk about you would survive inter I would, but you wouldn't,
Speaker 3: I will.
Speaker 1: Yack, Jack, I agree with Will. Yeah, you're just mad
Speaker 1: because the whole Arizona thing.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 1: You're still heated. I'm with Will. Why though, exactly?
Speaker 9: I just don't think you're built for Bonteraire. That's okay, man,
Speaker 9: I think you'd be built for Bonteraire. Yeah, you're building.
Speaker 1: What was the capacity of like your town, Like, what
Speaker 1: was the population? Four thousand undred? Small town? I don't
Speaker 1: want to live there. I don't know what said. No,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, maybe a couple of thousand higher.
Speaker 1: Now we got to stay prison.
Speaker 9: That's why you chose, That's why you chose Nebraska. Then, man,
Speaker 9: we were an hour away from that.
Speaker 1: He said. The closest city was an hour away, Like
Speaker 1: legit not, let's.
Speaker 3: Pel like this.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'll say this. I'd really choose Arizona than that.
Speaker 2: I didn't work down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's R and B. That's R and B s
Speaker 1: right there on the right, bro. You were you were right?
Speaker 1: Yeah not survived?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wait what is the pop too damn hard
Speaker 1: to live? Like we're growing look at that and living
Speaker 1: the population of kve cree uuickly we jumped. That's probably
Speaker 1: when the state of prison came a little increased. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you. Oh, then we went down. Yeah, but you're
Speaker 1: basically Scottsdale. Yeah, it's a good location.
Speaker 2: You're Yeah, you have the small town you get you
Speaker 2: get to say five thousand. But you guys are you guys.
Speaker 1: Are a lot of people around. Yeah.
Speaker 10: I could imagine playing high school football for you too.
Speaker 10: Like you guys had to always practice either at night, right.
Speaker 1: We were just the state, No, not a cave three.
Speaker 1: We would practice at two pm. They would be that
Speaker 1: was even a loud, brutal Yeah, like there was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you cannot even nice school.
Speaker 9: I went to the catch shows in nice school. The
Speaker 9: football programs are definitely different. Chaparo football program nighttime, nighttime practices.
Speaker 9: We would literally go up north for camp and stuff
Speaker 9: like that. They had They have more money obviously, but dude,
Speaker 9: kind of like that.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 9: We went to State my sophomore were a whole town
Speaker 9: shut down those signs up there. Gone to State like
Speaker 9: it was, It's fucking awesome and you like the uh
Speaker 9: the Instagram photo I sent that Prince of Mukamara, he's
Speaker 9: from Arizona and of how Scottsdale in Phoenix is the area.
Speaker 9: How they oh that shit was funny, threw all the
Speaker 9: lines and said, what was there? Yeah, I was looking
Speaker 9: at Kate Preek was in there, but it wasn't. I know,
Speaker 9: it's kind of like Northern I just missed it. But yeah, dude,
Speaker 9: Arizona rips and I fucking mess with the messed with
Speaker 9: the dirt. I know that is more of an acquired taste,
Speaker 9: so I can definitely understand why you guys don't like that.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of positives.
Speaker 9: There's a lot of love to hear some out of
Speaker 9: your mouth because you've been kind of coming hard. I'm
Speaker 9: trying to get you moved there in the wintertime. I'm
Speaker 9: trying to get will to live in Arizona in the wintertime.
Speaker 2: Fuck Florida's nice to live up a good spot with Florida.
Speaker 2: A lot of goods, Yeah, a lot closer and you
Speaker 2: and there's more green yeah, because yeah, it rains. It's
Speaker 2: not close to Cabo.
Speaker 1: Or Vegas. Key West or No.
Speaker 9: I fucked with key West Bay time we moved to
Speaker 9: Key West. Yes, we all bro we would not get
Speaker 9: one guest.
Speaker 1: That's fine, we don't need them. The West Florida, it's
Speaker 1: all fucking time. You've been a Key West. I don't
Speaker 1: think I have. I'm not a Florida. I I live
Speaker 1: in California. So island like the Islands to what four
Speaker 1: miles long.
Speaker 9: It's tiny, dude, Like there's an airstrip and then the
Speaker 9: it's like cutting Heffer's the airport than the rest of
Speaker 9: the town.
Speaker 10: I haven't had great experiences in Florida overall. I've been
Speaker 10: there maybe like four or five times. Again, I haven't
Speaker 10: been to Key West, but the times I went, I'm like, yeah, no,
Speaker 10: I definitely can check this off the place I ever
Speaker 10: want to live.
Speaker 1: California. I thought the same thing.
Speaker 10: The community there was the worst I've ever experienced. I
Speaker 10: remember like coming out in my like Glorida just to
Speaker 10: immediately fog up. I'm meanly, I walk outside like, I'm
Speaker 10: a what month did you go? I guess it was
Speaker 10: like middle summer, like spring break summer.
Speaker 1: Like I just they just doesn't know how to travel.
Speaker 1: Guys get fogged up. I mean, like on Arizona in June.
Speaker 1: We'll see what that's like. Florida.
Speaker 9: I remember going also out to Florida too, and it
Speaker 9: was for my brother in law's bachelor party.
Speaker 10: It was like overcast the entire time. Even went to
Speaker 10: the Okay, so I remember being in Florida for the
Speaker 10: Pro Bowl. That's when we met for the first time.
Speaker 10: It was overcast the entire time. I'm like, what, Like,
Speaker 10: I never did they call the Sunshine State.
Speaker 1: It just fucking rain. It was rainy. I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is fucking ship weather.
Speaker 9: Like what.
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 9: I was like in Candon State. I'm I'm with you
Speaker 9: on like Florida, but you get down those keys.
Speaker 1: Brother, again, I've never been. I can't speak.
Speaker 9: I'm talking tropical vibes. It's like everyone's a little more chill.
Speaker 9: There's like chickens running around and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: It's cool. It's a cool fucking setup. Here's another thing, again,
Speaker 1: I may I may seem.
Speaker 9: Like a negative guy. No, you kind of seeming negative
Speaker 9: right now? I know what I like, and I'll pose
Speaker 9: it's like, I'm not a sand sand guy. You're a
Speaker 9: late guy over beach. Fucking ten out of ten oh a.
Speaker 1: JP, Hey, we got a conversation. I can't lay guy,
Speaker 1: late guy over beach.
Speaker 10: Like over beach Like first of all, I can never
Speaker 10: live in a beach town because it's too sleepy for me.
Speaker 10: Like that's exactly the shot I needed you to take too.
Speaker 10: And I'm saying, like even throw like do I do
Speaker 10: I think it's nice? Do I like to go visit
Speaker 10: all that stuff? Could I actually live there? Who are
Speaker 10: you hanging out with?
Speaker 4: Hang on?
Speaker 1: Now, let a tough upbringing tall like overall, like, I
Speaker 1: just I just don't. I don't. I don't really appreciate, Like, uh,
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't. I don't like beach town.
Speaker 10: I don't like the I will visit the beach town vibe,
Speaker 10: Like you can give me a beach two weeks out
Speaker 10: of the here for like a spring break for the kids.
Speaker 1: Butter than that.
Speaker 10: If you didn't never, if I never saw sand I
Speaker 10: would be totally cool. That sand gets ever gets in
Speaker 10: your fucking crack, get some place you don't want to be.
Speaker 10: I'm assuming with kids gonna be a fucking nightmare to
Speaker 10: fucking get it out. It gets in your car, if
Speaker 10: it's in my bed, that's what throws.
Speaker 1: The bed part.
Speaker 9: I can get what I can get off the bed. Bro,
Speaker 9: Just wait for your kids get older, because they'll come
Speaker 9: and lay in bed with you.
Speaker 1: Like the crumbs everywhere, and you go to bed at
Speaker 1: night and.
Speaker 9: For whatever reason, your wife's side perfectly fucking clean, and
Speaker 9: you got all them damn crumbs in my bro, like.
Speaker 10: Any little bit of like sand, like just that little
Speaker 10: thing I'm changing. I'm changing, like my my sheets. I
Speaker 10: don't give that ship. I also say, you love the
Speaker 10: leg vibe. Them'll take a by better, like being on
Speaker 10: a boat with the guys.
Speaker 1: Need I take that. Do you believe that there's such
Speaker 1: thing as a boat wave? Yes, just like there's a
Speaker 1: jeep wave that is out here that I realized that
Speaker 1: with only Wranglers is the worst podcast we've ever done.
Speaker 9: Yes, Oh my god, I was driving someone through it.
Speaker 9: Him I'm like, I don't know that it's definitely a
Speaker 9: jeep wave. I've been on a I was also there's
Speaker 9: a boat wave.
Speaker 10: It's just like in golf, like you know, you passed
Speaker 10: them one and like you have that awkward thing where
Speaker 10: you're not really going very fast and you're kind of
Speaker 10: fast and you're just like, hey, I'm having a good day.
Speaker 1: You're having a good day, golf guy. I'm trying.
Speaker 9: I'm bad, but I'm like, oh, I'm trying to turn
Speaker 9: the boy. We're just gonna be a collective. We're trying
Speaker 9: to get this bust and busting golf. We just started
Speaker 9: some merch with a golf clus and golf club and
Speaker 9: it looks really good. It seems like something I want
Speaker 9: to put on. But I'm not about the clubs.
Speaker 1: He's not. But I think we just got to get
Speaker 1: out there for you don't have to be like a
Speaker 1: club guy, like a country club guy. I am very
Speaker 1: against country clubs. Yeah, I mean, I I don't.
Speaker 10: I'm again, I'm not gonna like say like I don't
Speaker 10: like counchry clubs, but I also will say you're a
Speaker 10: part of Richland.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna be the dude
Speaker 10: that's going to be like going on there every time.
Speaker 1: John it up like that's where I'm sending my days
Speaker 1: Like that's not bro.
Speaker 9: The only reason to be a part of a country
Speaker 9: club is to be over there on a consistent basis.
Speaker 10: I want a golf at a good place that I
Speaker 10: know I can get a fucking time. That's six minutes
Speaker 10: from my house, That's why. And apparently they have good
Speaker 10: you know some brunches on weekends every day.
Speaker 1: They have they have brunches, they have good weight room, oz,
Speaker 1: they have spas. They have a nice set up and
Speaker 1: also have daycare.
Speaker 10: So when you have dad time and get the kids,
Speaker 10: you can bring them there and your wife doesn't know
Speaker 10: what mischeman. Now you can give it to them and
Speaker 10: let them watch the kids while you go play eighteen
Speaker 10: drinks with the guys in And.
Speaker 1: It's a real boy club in there too. Here's where
Speaker 1: I'm against Rich, here's the niggas.
Speaker 8: Come on.
Speaker 1: I've been very no. I just have one question, one
Speaker 1: question before you get into it, is that is Rich
Speaker 1: on the one Ben Jones is in? Ben Jones is there? Okay?
Speaker 9: But when we were on the Vegas trip, Ben was
Speaker 9: selling me on it and I was like, Hey, this
Speaker 9: Richland place seems Richard's vibe. I've been a Richmond a
Speaker 9: few times. I did a pool day with the kids
Speaker 9: there and stuff like that. And they got good ass
Speaker 9: food too. I was shocked with that most counch club
Speaker 9: as I'm like, I'm paying to like top dollar. I
Speaker 9: got the shift food they got it wasn't bad. They
Speaker 9: got a room down in the basement, dimly lit. Guys
Speaker 9: smoke cigars in there, talk shop, tell war.
Speaker 1: Stories I have. I've been there. I've been there while
Speaker 1: I was there for Rally on the Runway. Get off
Speaker 1: that hill I was. I was rally on the Runway.
Speaker 1: Is like it was a charity event that I went
Speaker 1: there for. And I've been there a couple of times,
Speaker 1: like for tom One on them because they're they're members,
Speaker 1: not yet, but I do want to. You're just looking
Speaker 1: into this you need to do? Yeah, looking into it.
Speaker 10: Be a counch club with a couple of your buddies
Speaker 10: and then at least for me, like I don't do
Speaker 10: I need a social that everyone.
Speaker 1: I could get it like cool.
Speaker 10: I meet someone and I come from some great but
Speaker 10: I'm not like joining it, Like I look at a
Speaker 10: hundred club is basically like.
Speaker 1: You pay for your friends. Let's let's call spade of space.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 10: That's a phrase I use all. I love screaming at
Speaker 10: chicks and yell at them when they're doing the whole thing.
Speaker 10: Oh I get that's a cult story.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 10: But like you just yelled the mag you pay for
Speaker 10: your friends, they're standing there doing the whole chap. Oh yeah,
Speaker 10: but like women, Yeah no, but you you get like
Speaker 10: you get a couple of your buddies. You join the
Speaker 10: same country club and golf all the time. It's like, hey,
Speaker 10: we're gonna meet, Like I don't care to play with
Speaker 10: like random people. I will, but like I just want
Speaker 10: to play with like my buddies that way, Like I didn't.
Speaker 10: I don't know, Like I said, I have enough friends.
Speaker 10: I don't if I meet more great, but like good,
Speaker 10: I want to play with people like I enjoy being right,
Speaker 10: not like being forced.
Speaker 9: Here's my negatives. Uncountry let's go boys. I think Richland rips.
Speaker 9: I think it's a cool ass spot. I've been there
Speaker 9: a few times. It's fun. However, country clubs to me
Speaker 9: are very pretentious. I feel like they think they're better
Speaker 9: than you, and I cannot stand having to you can
Speaker 9: and can't wear certain article articles of clothing that bugs
Speaker 9: the fuck out of me. If I can't just show
Speaker 9: up and jim shorts and a T shirt, Like, what
Speaker 9: are we trying to prove your boys? Can we just
Speaker 9: fucking hang out? Because at the end of the day,
Speaker 9: a lot of people at country clubs are doing degenerate shit. Anyway,
Speaker 9: I being a bunch smoking a bunch on the course
Speaker 9: acting crazy.
Speaker 1: Can I can I tell you your answer? Then go ahead?
Speaker 1: You're a Discovery property guy. Have you ever heard of that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Truba to I know, no, shoes doesn't matter. Dress world
Speaker 1: is it's the epitome of boys. Ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 9: You're gonna be spending a lot of money. But like
Speaker 9: the comfort stations are Have you ever been to any
Speaker 9: of them?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 10: I haven't go go to one because whatever I say,
Speaker 10: it's not even gonna do a justice there. Confrontations blow
Speaker 10: anything I've ever had out of the water. And like
Speaker 10: there's legit coolers at every single tea box you pull
Speaker 10: up to and shot Like, what is this called again
Speaker 10: called the Discovery property? I've heard the one that Ernest
Speaker 10: talked about it in the podcast once the one chase
Speaker 10: Rice and games.
Speaker 9: They're all out there like chases out there. It's literally
Speaker 9: like it's kind of like what's that fucking spot that
Speaker 9: opened up? That's like more of an.
Speaker 1: Art more of country clubs like degenerate.
Speaker 9: You want to be your epitome of like the boys
Speaker 9: degenerate golf with like no rules, like it's discovery about that.
Speaker 10: That's literally you wear a T shirt, tank top. It's
Speaker 10: fucking golf with without your fucking shoes, Like you just
Speaker 10: do whatever you want. And the food there is unreal.
Speaker 10: I've been to like I think two or three of
Speaker 10: their one in San Diego as well. Right there's there's
Speaker 10: one in San Diego. They just bought one in Tahoe.
Speaker 10: There's a couple in Mexico that doing one in Cappo
Speaker 10: right now.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and like I know w witness uh he had
Speaker 9: bought one down that down there, and I forget which one,
Speaker 9: but it's dude, like you it's unreal. Again you're painting
Speaker 9: on the leg too, Yeah, but it's it's fucking like
Speaker 9: it's worth it if you're saying, like that's exactly needed
Speaker 9: vibes I have with golf too, Like I feel like golf,
Speaker 9: I've the same phrases all the time. Is like it's
Speaker 9: for people that have made it, and to me, it's
Speaker 9: like that's so much time to spend on other things
Speaker 9: I could be doing other than that. I have a
Speaker 9: hard I have a really hard time doing as much
Speaker 9: as I do with this bus and like balancing family life,
Speaker 9: family and work life, because are so many things that
Speaker 9: I want to like accomplish, and there's other things I
Speaker 9: have that I want to do too, Like I love aviation,
Speaker 9: I want to learn to fly. I want to I
Speaker 9: want to do that, and like how would I pick
Speaker 9: one of the one of those too? I want to
Speaker 9: do fun ship and so golfing to me is like
Speaker 9: I'm just never really been about golf.
Speaker 1: Have I golf before? Yes? Is it fun times?
Speaker 9: Yeah, But like it's not one of those things I'm like,
Speaker 9: I gotta make sure and get back here this week.
Speaker 10: Or just yeah, just by by simulator. Yeah, but dude,
Speaker 10: I'm trying to think of and you have made your
Speaker 10: whole house. You sound like a simulator guy. Just by
Speaker 10: simulator They're awesome, I think the ones I just used
Speaker 10: one recently. Again, I'm not a big golfer. I'm learning
Speaker 10: to like this guy had a really like my neighbor
Speaker 10: has a really nice one.
Speaker 1: I used it.
Speaker 10: I'm like, oh, this is like pretty much everything fell
Speaker 10: exactly like golf, except obviously the pudding's a little different.
Speaker 10: And you can get be a hi eighties nineties golfer
Speaker 10: just doing that, and then you can and that's way easier.
Speaker 10: You can choose whenever, whenever, Like I don't have a
Speaker 10: problem like like going back to the country.
Speaker 9: I don't have a problem like paying for stuff like
Speaker 9: Discovery Sick the Soho house set up that seems dope too.
Speaker 1: I've been there a few times. That's awesome.
Speaker 9: It's when the country club comes into play, and like,
Speaker 9: I mean, you look at the stuff like you see
Speaker 9: cat Is you grow up on a movie like Caddish act,
Speaker 9: Like I don't want to be Like, there's.
Speaker 10: Not one thing you're saying about a country club that
Speaker 10: I disagree with because I have those same problems too,
Speaker 10: just like I have a problem with living in gated communities. Dude, Yes,
Speaker 10: that's again, it's a stigma. It's just a weird thing
Speaker 10: that I have a hard time I get home. Awesome difference,
Speaker 10: Thank you, Okay, I'm glad man, fuck your safety, dude.
Speaker 10: I am not about the nity. Thank you, But I again,
Speaker 10: I don't think what you're saying, and I don't disagree
Speaker 10: at all with that country. I think it's just something
Speaker 10: I think I've like you know, I as well. I
Speaker 10: think it's good for the long run and gift for
Speaker 10: Like you know, there's things like Frankie, I don't have
Speaker 10: to build a tennis where like Frankie can have her
Speaker 10: own tennis court. There's a lot more things that you
Speaker 10: can get. I just don't think I'm gonna be like
Speaker 10: you can look around the whole. I think I look
Speaker 10: past the whole like stigma of a country club, because
Speaker 10: there's a lot of other amenities you can get from it.
Speaker 10: That's why overall I'm like all right, like I can
Speaker 10: get behind it.
Speaker 7: I think the stigma of country clubs is going to
Speaker 7: be on the way out because what I where I
Speaker 7: agree with you is that stigma is those dudes are
Speaker 7: old as fuck now yeah, and they're not going to
Speaker 7: be there for it die. So it's like people that
Speaker 7: live in Nashville are going to be those people that
Speaker 7: you're talking about that are out of Richland or at
Speaker 7: a troubadoor.
Speaker 10: Honestly, Richard's already starting a little more like that, like
Speaker 10: they're everyone knows okay, So I won and golf with them.
Speaker 2: I knew him from like way back in the day,
Speaker 2: and he uh like he's one of the first brought
Speaker 2: me there to golf.
Speaker 10: And he like pulled up like honking, like has a
Speaker 10: bunch of drinks, screaming. There's this old ass dude hitting
Speaker 10: and like I'm.
Speaker 2: Like trying to be proper, like I understand how country
Speaker 2: clubs are, and I don't know what this ViBe's like.
Speaker 1: And the old guy turns. She goes about to have
Speaker 1: a good idea out there, aren't you kid?
Speaker 10: Yeap, that's my heart so you literally sorry, dude, like
Speaker 10: you probably He's like, oh no, this ain't this vibe.
Speaker 10: Like we're just temp like it kind of like still
Speaker 10: Warris because I've heard like you gotta work collared shirt
Speaker 10: tucked in.
Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck this, fuck that. Yeah, Like I'm not
Speaker 2: I don't co sign to that, you know on tuck
Speaker 2: after the first hop. That's why I but I still
Speaker 2: agree it's pretty to appreciate a nice tuck, but have
Speaker 2: to we're running out time. We're running out of time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're about to be a cowboy ship dude. This has
Speaker 2: been It's been an amazing two hours.
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Speaker 2: Back to the episode. Our tear talk this week is
Speaker 2: going to be Nickelodeon Cartoon characters. Go ahead, JP, start
Speaker 2: us off, brother, all right.
Speaker 4: My Tier three arguably one of the coolest Nickelodeon characters
Speaker 4: out there, and that is Auto Rocket.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, sir, shout out the boy. Auto Rockett was dope.
Speaker 4: Here two one of my obviously one of my other
Speaker 4: favorite cartoon characters and characters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's on the show. Oh I thought we were
Speaker 1: doing shows. I'm glad you. Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Here two goes to Ultra Lord Sheen from Jimmy Neutron.
Speaker 4: Sheen still provides values in my life to this day,
Speaker 4: and he honestly gets even better and Sheen is a
Speaker 4: gift that keeps on giving. And Tier one SpongeBob. You
Speaker 4: can't beat SpongeBob. SpongeBob embodies everything that we should all
Speaker 4: want to be. Positive attitude, hard worker, never complaining, and
Speaker 4: just trying to build community with those closest to them.
Speaker 1: There's nothing but optimism. Yeah, man, so those are that's
Speaker 1: my my list.
Speaker 4: With that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to give it to him, but yeah,
Speaker 1: one word Jack to describe solid studs fucking lift sick.
Speaker 1: What's your word to describe it? Dave? His list?
Speaker 11: Yeah, all it means Ard took that set incredible, incredible, outstanding.
Speaker 11: Do you want us to go before you? I'll girl,
Speaker 11: you want to go, I'm ready, I go ahead. My oh,
Speaker 11: my honorable mention. And this was probably my first show
Speaker 11: that I fell in love with as a young little
Speaker 11: wolf pup Rocco from Rocco's Modern Life. I loved Rocco
Speaker 11: is homie heifer, Spunky, his dog. I love the frog,
Speaker 11: the frog neighbors, his boss and the wife.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 2: I loved Roco's Modern Life. But shout out the boy Roco.
Speaker 2: That's my honorable mention. My Tier three is going to
Speaker 2: be a cat dog. Loved cat dog growing up. I
Speaker 2: love cat dogs so much. Like when they were trying
Speaker 2: to make products, like food products. Outside of the one
Speaker 2: where uh cat is getting dog buffet shit to compete,
Speaker 2: he's just like on basically like roided out. That was
Speaker 2: a great episode. But the episode where they're like making
Speaker 2: a product and like my young dumb self, I try
Speaker 2: like making like you know, jelly sugar, putting stuff onto
Speaker 2: like I'm trying to like create things in the kitchen.
Speaker 2: But my Tier three cat dog, my Tier two a
Speaker 2: little unorthodox, but he was one of my favorite characters,
Speaker 2: probably my favorite person to enjoy coming into a scene,
Speaker 2: and it's Twister Rodriguez from Rocket Power. Just an incredible
Speaker 2: best friend. I out of Rocket was funny. He's, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of dumb, but Twister he always had a good
Speaker 2: head on a show and he hated being called Maurice
Speaker 2: by his older brother. But shout out the boy Twister.
Speaker 2: I love Twister. And by the way, a little side
Speaker 2: shout out. He didn't make the list at all, but
Speaker 2: you got to give a shout out to to Tito
Speaker 2: and he'd always drop He'd always drop wisdom on those boys.
Speaker 2: He always loved Tito. And then the only other time,
Speaker 2: only other state of mine, he'd be in his sadness
Speaker 2: and then they all throw some surprise part of their
Speaker 2: lift of spirits. But Tito was a stud in there
Speaker 2: as well. My tier one is going to be probably
Speaker 2: without fully having probably thirty minutes to digest all this.
Speaker 2: But my favorite show in the nineties and it was Hey, Arnold,
Speaker 2: But my Tier One's gonna go to Arnold. I felt
Speaker 2: like in every in every episode there was a lesson
Speaker 2: to be had, and Arnold was the best. I felt
Speaker 2: like just the show overall. They had the right characters,
Speaker 2: and everything else. The whole woogie Woogey wiogey, the Boy,
Speaker 2: Arnold football head, shout out the boy. I think he
Speaker 2: deserves his flowers for tier.
Speaker 9: One seems like, hey, NLD embodies exactly what ja C
Speaker 9: tratter and bodies. He was always like, yeah, you pick
Speaker 9: up the money and give it to you. He was
Speaker 9: always doing the right and ask him.
Speaker 1: Was her hair own fan?
Speaker 9: Yeah, face his entire life, Arnold Twister, cat Dog Rocko, whoh.
Speaker 1: Old head their mind in nineties baby.
Speaker 4: Theme songs. Oh yeah, that's my favorite ones. Tall you
Speaker 4: get the word, David, I don't have a word.
Speaker 1: I got it, I got one, I got one. Fuck nostalgia.
Speaker 9: Day.
Speaker 1: You want to go, David, the Boy does have to
Speaker 1: leave here soon. Yeah.
Speaker 10: No, we definitely get this thing going. I gotta get
Speaker 10: the nobody got.
Speaker 9: Honorable mention is going to go from one individual character, obviously,
Speaker 9: because they're all individual characters of the Angry Beavers, and.
Speaker 1: That is three flower dude. The cool calm collected there was.
Speaker 9: I mean it was Angry Beavers, but really he was
Speaker 9: always kind of the voice to reason if things got
Speaker 9: a little out of hand, He's like, hey man, it's
Speaker 9: all good. Don't worry about it. He was always dealing
Speaker 9: with the other guy. Get a little too fucking wild.
Speaker 9: My Tier three is going to go to Tommy Pickles.
Speaker 9: Tommy Pickles was a leader, He was a risk taker.
Speaker 9: He always got everybody dialed in, and when Angelica would
Speaker 9: come around, he would just let her do her thing.
Speaker 9: He every once when I get a little upset, but
Speaker 9: he would always figure out a way to make the
Speaker 9: best out of a tough situation, especially getting out of
Speaker 9: that damn pen to help everybody out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, My tier two is going to go to Patrick Starr.
Speaker 9: Seems like the old ultimate side character in my opinion,
Speaker 9: his comedic relief to some real problems they had out there.
Speaker 1: He had some He had some moments, dude.
Speaker 9: When he was trying to blow a bubble at SpongeBob's
Speaker 9: bubble stand, literally me and tears. As a child, I
Speaker 9: thought was so funny, hilarious, dumb, but hilarious and always
Speaker 9: is what they were ready to ride with the boys.
Speaker 1: And my tier one is gonna have to go to
Speaker 1: Twister Rodriguez.
Speaker 9: He was I loved watching Rocket Power It's my It's
Speaker 9: my favorite probably cartoon of all time, and seeing Auto
Speaker 9: Rocket out there. I thought I loved Auto, but he
Speaker 9: thought he took things a little too serious. And the
Speaker 9: only thing, like you said, with being called Maurice, he
Speaker 9: would have a hard time with that. But other than that,
Speaker 9: man always like kind of cool doing his thing. Never
Speaker 9: really wanted to be like the best like Auto did.
Speaker 9: He was really just like embodied chill boy vibes. And
Speaker 9: I gotta give a big shout out to him. I
Speaker 9: was a huge fan of and that is my tears.
Speaker 4: Talk surprising, well rounded, solid, good classics.
Speaker 1: Twister's number one what was surprising. Twister took me by surprise.
Speaker 1: I love Twister man. Twitster took me by surprise.
Speaker 9: And then.
Speaker 2: The one, the one I really upset I did not
Speaker 2: hit was Tommy Pickles. Tommy Pickles low key is a
Speaker 2: competitor for tier one. I think Tommy Pickles, you grow
Speaker 2: up with Tommy Pickles. Second, ah, yeah, I know. I
Speaker 2: feel like each time we get a little bit better,
Speaker 2: we're gonna dial it in when one of these, make.
Speaker 9: Sure somebody writes that down because that's a good one.
Speaker 1: I know, bro, because we do need to do just
Speaker 1: Nickelodeon shows.
Speaker 9: But I agree secondary characters, no question, because that's you know,
Speaker 9: Twisters up there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm upset I didn't hit Tommy Pickles. And
Speaker 2: then Angry Beavers was surprising me. I think that's a
Speaker 2: phenomenal show, but I was surprise you.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know why. When we first started doing this,
Speaker 9: I thought, like, man, Angry Beavers really was. When I
Speaker 9: looked up all the shows I really enjoyed, rock was
Speaker 9: Modern Life. But for some reason, I get so fired
Speaker 9: up when Angry Beavers came on. I just thought it
Speaker 9: was such a that's when you said, I'm like, well,
Speaker 9: I don't want to use that one now.
Speaker 1: You I don't even know.
Speaker 9: Their name, like the names, but like I had to
Speaker 9: look up tree flower Beavers. It was fucking solid. But yeah,
Speaker 9: I think I think I got my well ready when
Speaker 9: you are okay? So my Tier three is gonna be
Speaker 9: oh man, two and three are tough. I think I'm
Speaker 9: gonna go.
Speaker 1: See. I think I'm gonna go with Squidward.
Speaker 10: He's the antagonist who SpongeBob and you need someone to
Speaker 10: shoot on, and you needed like that negative energy to
Speaker 10: balance out like the positives. Life's not all like a
Speaker 10: lot of I just enjoyed, just like the fact that
Speaker 10: he just came in did like you know, then he
Speaker 10: was just the opposite of everything that you know Patrick
Speaker 10: and spongebober about.
Speaker 1: So I liked I liked his balance to the show.
Speaker 9: I thought that, like, if you don't have him, it's
Speaker 9: too uh well, I could get totally uh call for
Speaker 9: this one, but it's like to Ted Lasso for me,
Speaker 9: where it's like too positive.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Tier two then goes to Cosmo from Fairly Odd Parents,
Speaker 2: mainly because I fucking love the show and I watched
Speaker 2: it all the time. But Cosmo was the epitome of
Speaker 2: just always would fuck up and I just enjoy like
Speaker 2: off the cuff stuff I enjoy, like then gotta be perfect.
Speaker 10: Kind of liked how he always kind of threw things around.
Speaker 10: I'm not looking for a message then need like a
Speaker 10: you know, a positive thing for me at the end
Speaker 10: of the day. And then number one Tier one, this
Speaker 10: is gonna be very controversial.
Speaker 1: Reptar. Reptar. So here's here's my reason. From rug Rats.
Speaker 1: He was not a main character, but he wasn't even
Speaker 1: a secondary You gotta let him listen.
Speaker 10: Reptr was the whole thing about like Rugrats that they
Speaker 10: were trying to do the most important thing to them
Speaker 10: was Reptar. And for me, like growing up, like I
Speaker 10: wanted like that's why I love Dinad, like the idea
Speaker 10: of like loving dinosaurs and like always going after like
Speaker 10: like the animal Reptart for me, I'm like that for me,
Speaker 10: like kind of was always something I went back to
Speaker 10: as like a child, like your stuffed animal, Like he
Speaker 10: was like my animated stuff animals.
Speaker 1: So that's for me.
Speaker 10: Like when there was a anytime Rugrats had repturn it,
Speaker 10: that was a good episode for me.
Speaker 4: Week lost me honest, thank you, controversial, solid, give your
Speaker 4: own r eating Yeah, I know almost almost.
Speaker 1: Let's start there, Mitchie almost why the first two or
Speaker 1: like three and two are really good for me?
Speaker 10: I was looking, I'm like I don't need like I
Speaker 10: never was a main character guy, and then I kept
Speaker 10: looking at like for me, I fucking loved Rugrats, but
Speaker 10: Reptar was that was like the.
Speaker 1: Mission was Reptar. I was a big yeah only doing
Speaker 1: that stuff, Like.
Speaker 10: I just like rerapped on my damn good and I
Speaker 10: feel like SpongeBob no fence, like that's the easy one
Speaker 10: to always like lean on and like he kind of
Speaker 10: kept on like after my childhood, So I'm not going
Speaker 10: to own it.
Speaker 1: Whereas like Rugrats was legit, I was a kid, like
Speaker 1: that's when it was there. It was profound.
Speaker 9: You well when I said lost me as soon as
Speaker 9: you made that Ted last Overmark, I had honestly with you. Again,
Speaker 9: I agree, I'm watching right now, but you just it's
Speaker 9: it is again. No, I I watched shitty shows. I'm
Speaker 9: not gonna say I'm not. I'm also not saying Ted
Speaker 9: is a shitty show. My god, I'm saying this.
Speaker 1: Haven't. No did Last different? Ted?
Speaker 10: I think Ted Lasso I really enjoyed season one, and
Speaker 10: then I think like it's it's fine. But like everyone's like,
Speaker 10: it's the greatest show, this is amazing. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 10: it's it's fine. I get the guys overly positive. There's
Speaker 10: great messages like always be authentically yourself, Like I see
Speaker 10: it all, but I'm like, is it like does it
Speaker 10: get me going? Does it get me tweeting? Like this
Speaker 10: is the greatest show. I can't believe like how everyone
Speaker 10: else is like Dick riding Ted Lasso. No, Like I
Speaker 10: and I have no problem full on a mini and
Speaker 10: it's not pessimistic because I'm not still not saying.
Speaker 1: The show is bad. I appreciate the show. I watched
Speaker 1: the show. I like the show.
Speaker 10: But when I see everyone basically, you know, like slurping
Speaker 10: up dick around like that, that show, ain't it that?
Speaker 10: It ain't what everyone else is saying, how it is?
Speaker 10: Dave is a fucking great show. That's it again, Ted
Speaker 10: Lasso is I'm not saying, like, is it funny? Is
Speaker 10: it a good show? All those all his boxes, but
Speaker 10: it's not like it's like again you is it? Can
Speaker 10: it make the list of someone like a like a
Speaker 10: tier like a tear talk It can make a tier
Speaker 10: talk list?
Speaker 1: Is it my tier one?
Speaker 9: No, it can't be because it hasn't gotten there at
Speaker 9: all through three seasons.
Speaker 1: God forbid. People love a show so much it's moved
Speaker 1: them to want to tweet about it, saying I just
Speaker 1: don't I actually don't think. I just don't think it's it.
Speaker 1: If you watch the show, Shory, oh yeah, what do
Speaker 1: you think about Shorty? Phenomenal? Thank you mean my taking
Speaker 1: your head off? Gonna baby angry beavers.
Speaker 10: If you had a bigger nose, it would definitely fit.
Speaker 10: But I mean, yeah, well, no, Shorty's fucking phenomenal. Uh,
Speaker 10: what's what's the other one? The Letter Kenny watching this
Speaker 10: phenomenal too.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think Shors is the single greatest one season
Speaker 9: show I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I love it that much.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't need you to I don't need you
Speaker 9: to co sign that. No again, I don't like that.
Speaker 9: I could jump more on board with that than like Ted.
Speaker 9: Last's like a top three best show. I'm trying to
Speaker 9: get Will into just to watch, dude, it's just watch.
Speaker 9: I'm not I'm not against watching it.
Speaker 1: It's like very loud. It's like constant talking to zero
Speaker 1: dead space.
Speaker 10: Super witty too like and like and then the bantering
Speaker 10: and also throwing like I'm not even fucking Canadian, but
Speaker 10: like you can get on like with the idea of
Speaker 10: how like Nate Canaane's Trent talk because I've all seen
Speaker 10: Letter Kenny, so I see like it's just like it's craftic.
Speaker 10: I appreciate wit. If there's good witness show, you're probably
Speaker 10: gonna grab my attention. If it's just like, Okay, I
Speaker 10: always like to feel good. Okay, I get it, like hey,
Speaker 10: and then you get this, I'm going back to Ted,
Speaker 10: Like then you get the depressions.
Speaker 9: There's good win in Ted last year's writing. I just
Speaker 9: don't think there's enough wit to make a much different level. Yeah,
Speaker 9: and like it's it's it is an A level show.
Speaker 9: A lot of softballs in there. It's an A level show.
Speaker 9: I think it's a I think it meets smart idea.
Speaker 9: You could say, you could say C plus. I'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 9: I could probably throw in that that category. You should
Speaker 9: if you throw a right now, like you're doing what
Speaker 9: C plus that's a good show? You're you're like that,
Speaker 9: you're almost eighty plus is not a good show. D
Speaker 9: plus is seventy nine or seventy eight or seventy seven,
Speaker 9: seventy nine, seventy nine. A C plus is good for movies,
Speaker 9: not a TV show. If you're not on IMDb and
Speaker 9: you're not pushing eight plus, like I'm not really gonna
Speaker 9: fuck with you a whole lot big ratings guy with
Speaker 9: will Yeah, but you know, like it's like a horror film,
Speaker 9: you know what to bring the rating down, like if
Speaker 9: it's in the high fifties sixties, like you're looking at
Speaker 9: a decent horror film. Yeah, because it's it's such a
Speaker 9: like in movie in movies, upper Seven's works.
Speaker 1: It's a that's probably a very good that's probably a
Speaker 1: good movie. Why why woul't that work for TV shows?
Speaker 1: There's because there's different four X shows, defo, So you
Speaker 1: really gotta like nitty gritty like them.
Speaker 2: I don't know, just because TV shows, you're gonna be
Speaker 2: spending a lot of time in that TV show.
Speaker 1: Go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my throw is breaking bad. Yeah, sons of Anarchy.
Speaker 2: I don't hear ted Lasso. No, no, yeah, ted Lass's
Speaker 2: out there? Boom all I said, is this now?
Speaker 1: Thank you dude? No, No, he didn't.
Speaker 2: I said, ted Lasso's a a I said. I said,
Speaker 2: ted lassos an a level show. Ted Lasto is a
Speaker 2: nine plus show at one o'clock, You've won the last
Speaker 2: You've won the war. Ted Lasto's nine plus level show.
Speaker 2: It's a well written show, and it's one of the
Speaker 2: best shows out right now currently.
Speaker 10: Yeah, but that also could also mean that the the
Speaker 10: types of shows that are out right now aren't very good.
Speaker 1: Good. Yeah, have you seen shrinks relative drinking with that?
Speaker 1: I've heard that's really good. I'm the good.
Speaker 2: You might not like it, though, because it's written by
Speaker 2: the ted Lasso people. I don't have anything against the
Speaker 2: Ted last O people. I don't have any Again, I'm
Speaker 2: not like a college or a high school football coach
Speaker 2: goes over and coaches a club soccer.
Speaker 1: It does seem a little more realistic. Again, I think
Speaker 1: I think it's good unprojecting right now. Okay, what's your
Speaker 1: what's your favorite TV showing?
Speaker 4: With them?
Speaker 1: There's anger phone around this bus.
Speaker 9: I fucking I messed with Scrubs. That's probably my number
Speaker 9: one all time. But I feel like if from recency bias,
Speaker 9: I don't know, I haven't really watched a whole lot
Speaker 9: of shows. You nip nip tuck kind of guy you
Speaker 9: watch that, No, like a bunch of stacks, Narcos, Narcos.
Speaker 1: I was a big entourage guy. That's phenomena. Again, Like
Speaker 1: that's that, that's a phenomenal one.
Speaker 10: Like I would definitely like those ones, Like I could
Speaker 10: if I took the time actually looked at the list,
Speaker 10: I can easily put ten to fifteen shows before ten last.
Speaker 10: And that's that's not me trying to shit them. That's
Speaker 10: just like, no, we're being honest. I think there's ten
Speaker 10: to fifteen shows that have happened or happening that are better.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that.
Speaker 2: I think if there's ten to fifteen and those are
Speaker 2: your north of C plus, then you need to get
Speaker 2: a little bit more well versed in TV.
Speaker 10: But I think there's a plenty of c pluses, Like, again,
Speaker 10: there's a lot of there's a lot of c plusters.
Speaker 10: How many sea plusters we got in here? There's any
Speaker 10: of us? There's c pluses in your top fifteen? Yeah,
Speaker 10: you know you guys are eight straight a's hell?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know not everybody's an A plus.
Speaker 9: Yeah, don't lie to yourself, you guys plus the top fifteen,
Speaker 9: I would see plus my top fifteen.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, look, I.
Speaker 2: Don't disagree that they're centered fifteen better than Ted Last.
Speaker 2: So I'm not saying that. I'm saying it's one of
Speaker 2: the better shows out on the team right now. It's
Speaker 2: a very good show.
Speaker 9: I don't think of another good show that I loved.
Speaker 9: But I don't know if I can put fifteen shows
Speaker 9: ahead of Ted last, though.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know unless.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 10: I think Loss was so good, though it didn't give
Speaker 10: me what you needed as it got towards the tailor
Speaker 10: and they feel like they started stretching it out too far.
Speaker 10: Like Yellowstones that way yell okay, so same same, I
Speaker 10: would I would definitely parallel them. Totally different shows, but
Speaker 10: you parallel them, those definitely were better because it like
Speaker 10: if I didn't, I just started watching Ted last, so
Speaker 10: that shows you like I was willing to wait a
Speaker 10: pretty long time before, like, oh the moment it came out,
Speaker 10: And that's again that's my personal like you want it
Speaker 10: it just like I didn't have. I didn't feel that
Speaker 10: necessity like oh, moment comes out, here to watch it.
Speaker 10: Whereas I remember Lost, I remember like Yellowstone, I binged
Speaker 10: the fuck out of Yellowstone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yellowstones fire like again, Sometimes I'm just watching an
Speaker 2: hour of great views in Monta in a still great show,
Speaker 2: like the character moment phenomenal, like Lost was amazing and
Speaker 2: then and then it got kind of weird, but still
Speaker 2: I'm like, overall, great show.
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't again.
Speaker 10: Breaking Bad was phenomenal, took you on an unbelievab journeys,
Speaker 10: some filler episodes, pretty pretty fist for sure at the end,
Speaker 10: brought it home great fucking gave you what you wanted.
Speaker 1: It was Breaking Bad a show that came out and
Speaker 1: like the whole season comes out at once or was
Speaker 1: week week.
Speaker 2: When I watched it, it was all on Netflix, So
Speaker 2: you're popping those thirty minute episodes.
Speaker 1: The entire time. I mean, I my buddy, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're watching it on it and then I
Speaker 1: binged it.
Speaker 10: Probably watched the first three seasons like two or three
Speaker 10: times to bring other people in start over again because
Speaker 10: it was that good.
Speaker 1: I didn't mind watching, but it was so.
Speaker 10: It was awesome that shows again, like the ending, like
Speaker 10: you're gonna be like tamn, but like overall, you're not
Speaker 10: gonna I.
Speaker 2: Don't think he will if he watches in succession. I
Speaker 2: think a lot of people who watch it all in
Speaker 2: just succession, like just binging it. I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people enjoyed season eight. You said you're saying to
Speaker 2: binge it or not to binge it. I think if
Speaker 2: you watch it.
Speaker 9: Now way when you say Philip filler episodes, when you
Speaker 9: have filler episodes and you have to wait another week
Speaker 9: to see it, that's gonna piss you off. So like, oh,
Speaker 9: that show sucked. But if you're binging that filler episode,
Speaker 9: you're like, this is great because I need to know
Speaker 9: I know what happens now there's like there's two years
Speaker 9: in the middle of season, like the ending of seven
Speaker 9: and eight for ever, all of us just speculated every day.
Speaker 9: I mean I remember that, remember that every day look like, hey,
Speaker 9: here's a new theory, here's a new three. So then
Speaker 9: when the Hollywood theatrics of a you know was in eight,
Speaker 9: you're just so bummed because you had so many and
Speaker 9: one seeing.
Speaker 10: Fleabag by the way, dude, that would be one off
Speaker 10: one that's like a London European show. It fucking rips, dude,
Speaker 10: and it's it's uh working something like there's so many
Speaker 10: one spinoffs. I'm like everyone like this is the money heist.
Speaker 10: It's almost like it forced it. Go watch Fleabag. It's
Speaker 10: a it's a like a woman led like all about them,
Speaker 10: but are like focus on them. But like and again
Speaker 10: like you can have some bics back like they that
Speaker 10: might not be like it fucking rips. It won like
Speaker 10: awards and I totally agree, Like finally they're actually giving
Speaker 10: awards to good fucking shows, not just the one because
Speaker 10: it's the most popular.
Speaker 1: Like I I feel like ted Last is the most
Speaker 1: popular show. There's the really best show.
Speaker 10: It's the most proper because the most generic some sometimes
Speaker 10: the most proper is generic.
Speaker 1: Like we could use that. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 9: The way that show was developed though, is a really
Speaker 9: cool story. You should look into that.
Speaker 1: And I see again I don't have it. You should
Speaker 1: look into that for sure, because it's again I'm not
Speaker 1: I hate.
Speaker 2: I'm bringing a little too much hate on it. It's
Speaker 2: just gonna see C plus. Man, you're saying seven point nine,
Speaker 2: it's still last. That's still good. You're looking at Ted last.
Speaker 2: So we look it up, it'll probably be I mean
Speaker 2: eight and a half as easy to go.
Speaker 1: The way you guys are looking at pluses are way different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, point eight, I feel like that's a well, that's
Speaker 2: a very well positioned number for Ted Lasso me. I like,
Speaker 2: if I'm in there voting, I'm probably giving it like
Speaker 2: a nine to one. But that's not an a I
Speaker 2: know today.
Speaker 9: No eighty eight No, no, no, yeah, at eight point eight,
Speaker 9: that's eight eighty eight I mean plus Okay, so like
Speaker 9: again you C plus Hey, you know what, Like for me,
Speaker 9: it's got like if you want to sit so there
Speaker 9: B plus I said, beaded C plus Like I can
Speaker 9: get with it.
Speaker 10: But like for my scale, I would probably pull it
Speaker 10: back because once you that's eighty eight, there's gonna he
Speaker 10: definitely better shows than that, and then you're gonna have
Speaker 10: to like this one's gotta be nine one.
Speaker 1: The next thing you know, it's like, well, how.
Speaker 2: Much baby will have it? All I'm saying is eighty
Speaker 2: eight is a that's a good rated show. That's gonna
Speaker 2: be one where if if somebody bring it up, tares like, hey,
Speaker 2: you should check out Ted Last One.
Speaker 1: I hadn't heard anything of it. I go to IMDb
Speaker 1: right away.
Speaker 2: If it's showing me eight point eight for over two
Speaker 2: hundred thousand people that's voted on it, then I'm crushing it.
Speaker 1: You or Ted Last Soon. I haven't seen you Netflix. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I aver redundant, man, I kind of died out of that.
Speaker 1: Have you seen the last season?
Speaker 8: No? I?
Speaker 10: Okay, the second the same fucking shit. I was like,
Speaker 10: if they do this shit again, I'm out. Really, And
Speaker 10: they fucking changed with the formula, which is scary. They
Speaker 10: put themselves on edge, but they fucking brought you back
Speaker 10: in and I'm like, this is what I'm talking about
Speaker 10: because again the form of the worst.
Speaker 9: Two seasons, like it's four now, okay, Yeah, yeah. I
Speaker 9: watched the first two seasons and I'm like, bro, this
Speaker 9: is the same ship.
Speaker 1: The second one, the ending, I was like, this is
Speaker 1: this is kind of doing I think I watched maybe
Speaker 1: two episodes of the third season. I was like, I
Speaker 1: got it. I got a better shit to do. Have
Speaker 1: you seen the last tame? Watch the last one? No? Oh,
Speaker 1: that's a good one. He has got to go.
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