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Speaker 1: and Welcome to the Drive Time Podcast, part of the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins official podcast network, covering your team, your Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: How's it going? Everybody? It is Friday. I am your host,
Speaker 1: Travis Wingfield, And on today's show, we've got a great
Speaker 1: guest for you guys, a great interview with Dolphins defensive
Speaker 1: and Emmanuel Agma. We talked about a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: on this podcast, breaking down his pass rush moves, the
Speaker 1: pass rush scheme, and gap integrity, the Cross Chop movie
Speaker 1: he's become famous for in the NFL, plenty of good
Speaker 1: inside football stuff. Plus we'll talk to him about one
Speaker 1: of his favorite sports in high school view might not
Speaker 1: have known about. Plenty more here on this edition of
Speaker 1: the Drivetime Podcast. Plus, we're gonna get to Daniel Jeremiah's
Speaker 1: new updated Top fifty and talk about what that means
Speaker 1: for this year's draft. All of that and more on
Speaker 1: this Friday, February edition of the Drive Time Podcast. We
Speaker 1: are going to get into my interview with Dolphins defensive
Speaker 1: and Emmanuel Ogba real quick here on this edition of
Speaker 1: Drive Time. But first I want to update you on
Speaker 1: the latest Daniel Jeremiah Top fifty. He does this every year,
Speaker 1: the best in the business. NFL Network. You guys know
Speaker 1: who he is. He anchors the coverage of the draft
Speaker 1: all three days for the NFL Network. He's got his
Speaker 1: new top fifty list, a former scout in the league,
Speaker 1: plenty of good content the Move the Sticks podcast. I
Speaker 1: cannot recommend his content enough when it comes to the
Speaker 1: draft and the NFL. And I want to talk about
Speaker 1: this because, as we do on this podcast, we take
Speaker 1: NFL information and relay it back into a Dolphins put
Speaker 1: it through a Dolphins filter. What does it mean to
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. And what I want to do with
Speaker 1: this one is take a look at the positional makeup
Speaker 1: of his top fifty. And you look at eight of
Speaker 1: his top ten players are on the offensive side of
Speaker 1: the football. And we talked about this on the offseason
Speaker 1: preview editions here of the Draft Time podcast about the
Speaker 1: makeup of these classes. How the last two years, the
Speaker 1: receiver and offensive line classes have just been absolutely stout.
Speaker 1: And the reason I want to bring this up is
Speaker 1: because I think it kind of sends the balance back
Speaker 1: in the offenses favor in terms of who comes off
Speaker 1: the board early in draft classes, if that was going
Speaker 1: to be how it went on draft, and of course
Speaker 1: it's going to be a complete crapshoot as it is
Speaker 1: every single year we get quote unquote surprises and I'm
Speaker 1: using finger quotes here, but they're never actually surprises, because
Speaker 1: the draft, by its very nature is a surprise every
Speaker 1: time we do it. But looking back over recent classes,
Speaker 1: last year, for instance, five of the top ten players
Speaker 1: chosen were on the offensive side of the football, and
Speaker 1: just for good measure, his eleventh and twelve players this
Speaker 1: year also our quarterbacks, so also offensive players, and we
Speaker 1: know how the draft goes in that way. To write,
Speaker 1: quarterbacks always wind up, you know, jumping a little bit
Speaker 1: over where they are on these types of rankings, as
Speaker 1: the demand for quarterbacks in this league always remains high.
Speaker 1: But you go back to nineteen as well, and only
Speaker 1: three of the top ten picks our offensive players, quarterback
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, quarterback Daniel Jones, and tight end T. J. Hawkinson.
Speaker 1: And that's a good parallel to this year's draft class
Speaker 1: because once again, one of the top players in this
Speaker 1: draft and number three overall on Daniel Jeremiah's big board
Speaker 1: behind just Trevor Lawrence, the quarterback from from Clemson, and
Speaker 1: behind only wide receiver Jamaar Chase out of l s U.
Speaker 1: He has tight end Kyle Pitts. So there were three
Speaker 1: players in this year's top ten in nineteen. You go
Speaker 1: back toeen and you've got six players in the top
Speaker 1: ten draft picks that were on the offensive side of
Speaker 1: the football. So you look at eight players on the
Speaker 1: offense in DJ's top ten, and really ten of the
Speaker 1: top twelve. That's a one of the bigger disparities we've
Speaker 1: had in terms of offensive over defensive firepower at the
Speaker 1: top end of the draft. If it were to play
Speaker 1: out that way, of course, is just a you know,
Speaker 1: February Top fifty list from one of the best scout
Speaker 1: in the game. But I find it interesting in the
Speaker 1: way it balances out the NFL because we had so
Speaker 1: many runs and swings on defense. We had so many
Speaker 1: runs where there was elite crops of pass rushers coming
Speaker 1: through every year, and now we kind of get that
Speaker 1: pendulum swing back the other way, where offensive linemen are
Speaker 1: just coming in and droves receivers are littered all over
Speaker 1: the league, guys that can make plays from all three
Speaker 1: positions out there at the receiver spots. So it makes
Speaker 1: for a fascinating draft class. And going into a year
Speaker 1: where the Dolphins really really excelled on defense last year
Speaker 1: and all the additions made on that side of the ball,
Speaker 1: well you've got some really good offensive options and defensive
Speaker 1: options as well. But as Dan Jeremiah notes, ten of
Speaker 1: his top twelve players on his Top fifty board all
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the football. All right, let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and talk about a player on the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the football. Emmanuel Ogba, Dolphins defensive end nine
Speaker 1: sacks last year, had a whole bunch of pressures, hits
Speaker 1: and hurries. And we had the takeaway breakdown piece that
Speaker 1: I had published on Miami Dolphins dot com about a
Speaker 1: month ago where I took a look at every single
Speaker 1: takeaway and in addition to three four fumbles the Dolphins
Speaker 1: were able to scoop up and recover. He also was
Speaker 1: just a massive part of so many of the interceptions,
Speaker 1: putting pressure on the quarterback on interceptions. Pro Football Focus
Speaker 1: had him with nine pressures on plays that turned into
Speaker 1: interceptions for the Dolphins last year, So technically speaking, part
Speaker 1: of twelve takeaways for Emmanuel Ogba, just an absolute beast
Speaker 1: out there. And you know, one of the themes on
Speaker 1: the podcast about the course of the season was the
Speaker 1: play before the play, right. We talked about the play
Speaker 1: before a big Xavian Howard interception, the play before a
Speaker 1: big third down sack. Well, Ogba's name came up over
Speaker 1: and over again, whether it was a second and two
Speaker 1: run stop where he forces the opposing offense into a
Speaker 1: third and three and then the Dolphins getta stop on
Speaker 1: that down turns into a four point play because of
Speaker 1: those stops and the work those guys did. He was
Speaker 1: consistent in that regard. He plays multiple positions. Went back
Speaker 1: and watched his tape. He's getting sacks from the nine technique,
Speaker 1: the wide nine, all the way out wide off the
Speaker 1: outside shoulder of the tight end. He's condensing inside of
Speaker 1: the three technique and putting power shows and bulrushes on
Speaker 1: big right guards in the National Football League. So he
Speaker 1: can beat you with speed, he can beat you with power.
Speaker 1: He can convert speed to power, heavy handed, active hands,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about all that stuff here with Ogba.
Speaker 1: On the podcast. He broke down some of his game
Speaker 1: and it's a fun, fun interview. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: turn this thing now over to my interview with Dolphins
Speaker 1: defensive end Emmanuel Ogbah and writing Shotgun now on the
Speaker 1: Drive Time podcast. He's number ninety one in your programs,
Speaker 1: number one and the sack column and in your hearts.
Speaker 1: He's powerful, long, strong, and one hell of a pass rusher.
Speaker 1: Emanual Ogba, Emmanuel, what's up? Man? That? What's up? Travis?
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. I'm really happy to have you
Speaker 1: on today, dude. It was it was fun to watch
Speaker 1: you all season long. But before we get into the
Speaker 1: football stuff, you know, I wanted to ask you about
Speaker 1: one of your teammates and and just put it to
Speaker 1: you this way. How privy are you? Two? Shack Lawson's
Speaker 1: idea for his dating show, the Love Shack. I think
Speaker 1: you know you said an idea the version of the
Speaker 1: dating show. I mean, I mean he's talked about it
Speaker 1: to me. I'm wondering how much he's told you about it.
Speaker 1: Oh well he hasn't. This this is the first for me.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard nothing about that. I gotta call him
Speaker 1: check with him on that. So it's called love Shock.
Speaker 1: He wants to it's like a like a dating series
Speaker 1: where like you know, the old the old school, like
Speaker 1: I Love New York or the Flavor Flame shows, those
Speaker 1: type of things. So he's got an idea for it,
Speaker 1: and they're kicking around somewhere. But I assumed he had
Speaker 1: brought it up to you guys, but he hasn't. That's
Speaker 1: pretty funny. Yeah, I gotta call him about that, love Shack.
Speaker 1: It got a nice ring to love Shack. I don't
Speaker 1: know why that sounds familiar though, but yeah, Luve Shack.
Speaker 1: I gotta call him and asked him about Dude, he's
Speaker 1: the best, like we we just we did a podcast
Speaker 1: with him back in this during the season and he
Speaker 1: was just what you see is what you get, right,
Speaker 1: just laughing and chucking it up the whole time. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he definitely makes the room go. You know, it definitely
Speaker 1: brings him and Christian they both bring, you know, smiles
Speaker 1: the room during the comedy to the room tons of
Speaker 1: there with those two guys, and you know you mentioned
Speaker 1: you're gonna You're gonna call him and ask him about it.
Speaker 1: So do you guys? Is there some communications, some hanging out,
Speaker 1: some working out going on between that defensive line group
Speaker 1: in the off season you guys getting together. Uh, well,
Speaker 1: not yet because you know, everybody wants their time off.
Speaker 1: You know, we had a long season, so kind of
Speaker 1: everybody to themselves right now. But as we gave closer,
Speaker 1: then guys will start coming together, you know, doing workouts
Speaker 1: and stuff as the off season comes to and then
Speaker 1: So that's something I wanted to ask you about and
Speaker 1: get into here, was like when does the clock kind
Speaker 1: of not strike midnight but turn over to the to
Speaker 1: the next season. Like, obviously, you take some time, you decompress,
Speaker 1: you you go to a beach somewhere. I hope, Manuel,
Speaker 1: hope you had a good vacation. Uh what when does
Speaker 1: like the next season officially begin for you? As far
Speaker 1: as like all right, I'm gonna get back on this
Speaker 1: program to get my body in this spot. And like
Speaker 1: when does it start for you? Usually I'll start right
Speaker 1: after the super Bowl. I'll take like a week after
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. Then I'll start, um, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of progressing. And I don't start you know, intense training.
Speaker 1: I just started getting my my body right back you
Speaker 1: know to where it was, you know, just like start
Speaker 1: my routine again, you know, just because I know we
Speaker 1: still have a long way to go. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's good to you know, started up, even though you're
Speaker 1: not going next really hard right now, but it's good
Speaker 1: to you know, nice little startup. So like more conditioning
Speaker 1: and kind of like you mentioned, kind of getting the
Speaker 1: body back to what it was pre season. Yeah, not
Speaker 1: not necessarily a lot of heavyweight tripping the more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like cardio and conditioning and stuff like that. So what
Speaker 1: I want to know, Emmanuel, is when you do get
Speaker 1: into that position where you're you're going you're you're going
Speaker 1: all in, like you're you're doing the heavy lifting, You're
Speaker 1: you're getting your body in the peak shape for the season.
Speaker 1: What is the typical day when you're in that part
Speaker 1: of the calendar. What does the typical day look like
Speaker 1: for you in the off season? Uh, well, I go.
Speaker 1: I go early in the morning, like around like seven
Speaker 1: seven thirty. That's when I get on the field. The
Speaker 1: field works. And then I get off the field like
Speaker 1: let's say like almost nine o'clock, and then I go
Speaker 1: in the weight room do weight room works. Um, I
Speaker 1: get down that whatever around like eleven, I'm done. So
Speaker 1: I'm done for the day, you know, take a break, relax, um, eat,
Speaker 1: and then at nighttime. I usually like either like just
Speaker 1: go do some like some light cardio work or just
Speaker 1: get on the bike a little bit just to move
Speaker 1: my legs. No, that's just no stuff that I would
Speaker 1: do like during a Austin as it progressed, I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily um go crazy with it. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: just just keeping my body, you know, maintaining my speed
Speaker 1: and just keeping everything moving. Like your body is like
Speaker 1: a machine. You gotta keep every fun too, on every
Speaker 1: little details about it. Oh man, I can't even imagine
Speaker 1: from an athlete's perspective because, like you know, a person
Speaker 1: that writes and does a podcast. If I, like I'm
Speaker 1: lazy for one or two days, it continues for multiple days.
Speaker 1: Body and motion stays in motion. Man, That's that's so true.
Speaker 1: So you're doing you do get into the two of
Speaker 1: days in the off season program, Yeah, it's like two
Speaker 1: of that, but not necessarily you know, the second part
Speaker 1: is not necessarily hard because I the marty part is
Speaker 1: when I really you know, get my work in the
Speaker 1: second part of the day is just necessarily just just
Speaker 1: keep my body moving and not just sitting around all day.
Speaker 1: So when you talk about field drills, what what does
Speaker 1: that entail? Uh, you know, I like with the bags
Speaker 1: to pop up bags, you know, just some passwords stuff
Speaker 1: I work with the bags and you know, some just
Speaker 1: dealon specific movements I would do. Um, it's just just
Speaker 1: just just different stuff. And also I have a coach,
Speaker 1: so that you usually helped me out. You know, I
Speaker 1: can't do it for myself. Well, I work with some
Speaker 1: of my teammates too, or former players that I played with,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, just just from there. So so
Speaker 1: you mentioned that you have some teammates and stuff, and
Speaker 1: I think I've I've mentioned this to you before. There
Speaker 1: was a great video from training camp with you and
Speaker 1: Shack working on you know, hand placement and getting the
Speaker 1: guy's hands off of you, and he was talking about
Speaker 1: your heavy f and hands. Bro, Like you couldn't believe
Speaker 1: how heavy your hands were. And you know that's something
Speaker 1: that the coach Hobby had mentioned before and we've we've
Speaker 1: talked about with you know, your evaluation on this podcast
Speaker 1: many many times a manual. Uh, what's what's the benefit
Speaker 1: of those heavy hands and and when you're doing those drills,
Speaker 1: like what's what are you trying to focus on the most,
Speaker 1: Like are you trying to work on just how to
Speaker 1: get his hands off you like, where to get your hands?
Speaker 1: What does what does that practice? How does that translate
Speaker 1: onto the field on Sundays. Um, It's just it's just
Speaker 1: a lot of it's a lot of hand eye coordination
Speaker 1: UM work that I do, and more so when I
Speaker 1: work on my hands a lot, because as a D
Speaker 1: lineman you need your hands. Your hands are one of
Speaker 1: the most important things as a D lineman. So if
Speaker 1: you could keep your hands um fast and active, you
Speaker 1: go a long way. And also, like my my thing
Speaker 1: is to not let the officer the lineman put their
Speaker 1: hands on me because you know he's strong, just like
Speaker 1: I'm strong. You know, if I could get his hands
Speaker 1: off me, if I could get his hands off of me,
Speaker 1: the quicker is be the better for me to look
Speaker 1: his way to the quarterback. And that showed up on
Speaker 1: tape this year. Man, I told you, I went back
Speaker 1: and watched your sacks from this season and they came
Speaker 1: from a variety of positions, a variety of pass rush moves.
Speaker 1: But I think the one that really STI out the
Speaker 1: most to me was the cross chop move. And help
Speaker 1: help correct me here if I'm wrong, because you're the
Speaker 1: pro and then youally want to get your take on this.
Speaker 1: But it looked like to me, when you do that move,
Speaker 1: you want your inside hand to get to his outside
Speaker 1: hand the tackles outside hand first. Does that Is that correct? Oh? Yeah? Sure?
Speaker 1: First of all, you have to really like run at
Speaker 1: the guy like you gotta sell them, like you're gonna
Speaker 1: like power him, power rush him, and so that will
Speaker 1: force him to sit to try to break for it.
Speaker 1: And that's when they normally shoot their hands and give
Speaker 1: give their hands, and that's what I'm looking for. As
Speaker 1: soon as they get their hands. So that inside arm
Speaker 1: of mind was coming down and my left arms grabbing
Speaker 1: the outside shoulder of the outside shoulder and just trying
Speaker 1: running right past them. So that's that's that's color how
Speaker 1: I learned to move A last need to move. You
Speaker 1: and I have different people, you know, teach me to move.
Speaker 1: So just been doing that and you kind of use
Speaker 1: that once you get to that point on their upfield shoulder.
Speaker 1: It looks to me like you slingshot off of that
Speaker 1: like momentum, Like you almost use their momentum against them, right,
Speaker 1: Like that's how you that's how you kind of turned
Speaker 1: the corner and flat into the quarterback exactly and turned
Speaker 1: that corner is the rap rap coming fool And I
Speaker 1: see that quarterback with the ball upcoming fools, It's like
Speaker 1: it's like anohing geared, like just map there. There was
Speaker 1: two really good examples of that this year. I thought
Speaker 1: one was the twenty eight yard sack on Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: where Eric Rowe comes clean and forces him to you know,
Speaker 1: pirouette and turn around four or five times and then
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, you worked up field. You kind of
Speaker 1: stayed on your block and then once you saw him
Speaker 1: him peel back. You did that and there's a combination
Speaker 1: of the other play was the Cardinals game where you
Speaker 1: got Kyler Murray, which, by the way, getting that guy
Speaker 1: in the open field, let's just give you a quick
Speaker 1: grand of applause for that. That's that's one of the
Speaker 1: most undoable things in the National Football League. But like,
Speaker 1: is it is it like that that you sense blood
Speaker 1: in the water? Because like you do kind of explode
Speaker 1: off that that one step where you see it and
Speaker 1: then the length and the kind of dive to get
Speaker 1: them to the ground. Man, Like, is it a blood
Speaker 1: in the water thing for you? Oh? Yeah? For sure,
Speaker 1: my eyes get so right, and those I beat the
Speaker 1: offensive tackle and I see the quarterback still has the ball.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, It's like a lightbulb just goes off
Speaker 1: in my hand and my eyes just right. If I
Speaker 1: wish the camera can just zoom in on my eyes,
Speaker 1: you know, as I'm rushing it. So because as I'll
Speaker 1: beat that line and the quarterbacks still have the ball
Speaker 1: nice like be right, so on before you could throw
Speaker 1: that ball, we've gotta get an e manual camera, an
Speaker 1: exclusive manual cam during the game. So I would love
Speaker 1: to see that. Uh that's good stuff, man, because you know,
Speaker 1: going back and watching those sacks again, like I mentioned,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's consistent in the way you do it.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, you go through, you go through
Speaker 1: an entire game, and you mentioned like your eyes get
Speaker 1: big because you can have you know, fifty or sixty reps,
Speaker 1: but you might not get your sack right. So like
Speaker 1: when it comes to impact in the game and ways
Speaker 1: beyond just the box score, how much pride do you
Speaker 1: take in that? And and what can you tell like
Speaker 1: the casual observer of a football game that says, well,
Speaker 1: all Bud didn't have any sacks but I'm over here
Speaker 1: saying he had five quarterback hits and two of those
Speaker 1: days led you to pick, Like, what what's the the
Speaker 1: overall team identity? Your team plan for the past? Rush
Speaker 1: to to impact the passing game. Um, it starts with everybody.
Speaker 1: You know, just because you don't get the sacks don't
Speaker 1: mean you're not really affecting the quarterback. And that's where
Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know it failed to see. Um. Um,
Speaker 1: just because the numbers aren't there, doesn't mean you're affecting.
Speaker 1: Like let's say, like you get some hurrys in the game,
Speaker 1: Like like you said, five hurrys in the game, Like
Speaker 1: that's affecting the quarterback, Like that's making him throw uncomfortable throws.
Speaker 1: And and that's what you're you're here to do. You
Speaker 1: here to affect the quarterbacks. And you know so, um
Speaker 1: so just just cause trouble with the offense. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and also the DBS it works hand in hand,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, d line play and corner player works
Speaker 1: hand in hand. They get hold there, hold your receiver
Speaker 1: and give us time to get back to the quarterback.
Speaker 1: So I mean that's that's usually how I go about things.
Speaker 1: That's usually how I played the game. I know it's
Speaker 1: a team sport and all the position of work handy
Speaker 1: and we make each other better pretty much. And that
Speaker 1: was very evident this year by the way this Dolphins
Speaker 1: defense played throughout the course of the season. You know,
Speaker 1: you mentioned the team aspect of and how all eleven
Speaker 1: parts have to work, you know, in synchronicity with the
Speaker 1: play call of the coaching staff. So really there's more
Speaker 1: than eleven guys that go into a given play. But
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things I love watching about
Speaker 1: this pass rush is the commitment to gap integrity. Can
Speaker 1: you tell us a little bit about that and what
Speaker 1: staying in your rush lane means a post maybe you
Speaker 1: know some schemes they'll have a pass rusher just try
Speaker 1: to win with speed and off the line right and
Speaker 1: they get up field and they wind up behind the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Like is that kind of the opposite of what you
Speaker 1: want to do? Like, what does gap integrity mean to you? Well,
Speaker 1: gap integrity it means to me, and like you gotta
Speaker 1: trust your brother to stay in this gap and not
Speaker 1: you know, you know what's in a while? You could
Speaker 1: take chance if you know you can make that play.
Speaker 1: But um, but then again, you have to like trust
Speaker 1: your brothers. You have to trust like each of them
Speaker 1: will stay in their gap. And yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: one thing you know, we ap preach that well, coaches
Speaker 1: preach about and now rushing past the quarterback, got to
Speaker 1: keep the quarterback in front of you because when you
Speaker 1: take that chance and rush your feet around past the quarterback,
Speaker 1: then you live in your other ten players to drive,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know we all got to you know,
Speaker 1: keep out gaps, and you know we can't lit the
Speaker 1: quarterback out of our site. Yeah, it takes one one
Speaker 1: blown assignment to ruin a play, right, That's how it
Speaker 1: works exactly, just one one mistake and mess everything up.
Speaker 1: So one of the things you do in this defense
Speaker 1: also a manual. We got a manual about Dolphins defensive
Speaker 1: end here on the Drive Time podcast is you rush
Speaker 1: from so many positions. And I mentioned this to you
Speaker 1: off air that so many of those sacks and those
Speaker 1: pressures came from the three tech, the five tech, you know,
Speaker 1: the YDE nine or the six and whatever it might be.
Speaker 1: You found a way to get pressure on the quarterback.
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned your eyes get big when you
Speaker 1: when you close on the quarterback. But like there was
Speaker 1: a rep for instance, where you were in the six
Speaker 1: tech and you had a tight end one on one
Speaker 1: and they tried to bring a running back over to
Speaker 1: block to blocking you to help, and you threw the
Speaker 1: tight end so far that the running back couldn't get
Speaker 1: in your lane. Like do your eyes get big on
Speaker 1: certain matchups? Like when you do get that that six
Speaker 1: tech against the tight end, Like, do you think, all right,
Speaker 1: this is my time right here. Yeah, it's like to
Speaker 1: be honest when I when they put a tight end
Speaker 1: in front of me, and I just feel like it's
Speaker 1: a kind of disrespect to be honest. That's just that's
Speaker 1: just my mindset, you know, going in into the game.
Speaker 1: But you know, I definitely respect a lot of tight
Speaker 1: ends in this league. Uh, but you know it's like,
Speaker 1: if you leave me one a while the tighten, I'm
Speaker 1: expected to win that matchup. Do you get what I'm saying? So? Uh,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's just every time when that happens, I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, y'all bring it tight end too on
Speaker 1: the path play? Oh god, this ain't it. Oh No,
Speaker 1: it's just because I actually just to get off the ball.
Speaker 1: You know, and just like get back there as quick
Speaker 1: as I can. We gotta flash the Jordan meme right
Speaker 1: here on the screen where it says and I took
Speaker 1: that personally, Yeah, exactly. So, so you go from that
Speaker 1: position out wide where you are going up against a
Speaker 1: guy like a tight end, but then you're also capable
Speaker 1: of kicking into the three technique and again another one
Speaker 1: of these sacks. She you you land up over the
Speaker 1: right guard or off the right guards outside shoulder, and
Speaker 1: you just the gap integrity, the bull rush. You kind
Speaker 1: of keep your eyes in the quarterback. You I mentioned
Speaker 1: the hands, You you do this thing where you kind
Speaker 1: of you get your hands on the inside chess plate
Speaker 1: and then that's all about kind of changing his momentum.
Speaker 1: But when you get inside in those three technique positions,
Speaker 1: like do you do you view that with the same approach?
Speaker 1: Does the approach change when you move positions across the
Speaker 1: defensive line. I feel like I use more of my
Speaker 1: speed when I'm in uh inside, because I'm smaller than
Speaker 1: the guy I'm going up against, So I use more
Speaker 1: of my speed, you know, to beat the officer guard,
Speaker 1: because officer guard usually like slower because that's why they
Speaker 1: played inside more so he's more must be either to
Speaker 1: get their hands off me as soon as they can
Speaker 1: and or just kind of like running right past them
Speaker 1: because they can't really handle the speed. Yeah, definitely, and
Speaker 1: that that was what I saw on that on that
Speaker 1: play was you you kind of work to get his
Speaker 1: hands clean. And then you mentioned like the the idea
Speaker 1: of pass rushing and tell me if this is wrong, Emmanuel,
Speaker 1: is to get a player leaning one direction and then
Speaker 1: go to the opposite direction. Like, is that kind of
Speaker 1: the general idea. It's a little bit of that, for sure.
Speaker 1: You have to get them off balance. If you get
Speaker 1: them all balanced, their beat for sure, because you can't
Speaker 1: block you can in thistily. You can't block somebody just
Speaker 1: with one hand. It's it's kind of impossible to do that,
Speaker 1: but some guys do it. But but now, but if
Speaker 1: you could get an opposite a linement of balance, I
Speaker 1: feel like you you you beat them. You got them
Speaker 1: beat pretty much. There was a rap man it was
Speaker 1: against the Jets where the guy that was blocking you,
Speaker 1: I don't know who it was or I think he
Speaker 1: was a right tackle, but his he winds up with
Speaker 1: his hands at his side because you had him, and
Speaker 1: then his helmet is in your chest. I'm thinking, oh boy,
Speaker 1: Emmanuel's got him right where he wants him, right here
Speaker 1: over his skis no hands, no hands placed. So it's
Speaker 1: like I said, man, it's a lot of fun to
Speaker 1: watch your tape. I want to ask a couple more
Speaker 1: questions here. Um, we talked a little bit about you know,
Speaker 1: the gap, integrity and and and being there for your brothers.
Speaker 1: What's it like. What was it like for the first
Speaker 1: year for you playing under coach Flora's in this defense
Speaker 1: with he and Josh Boyer and and just kind of
Speaker 1: the general culture that you've observed here from the Dolphins
Speaker 1: in year one. Uh, it was different. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: first of all, you know, leaving Kansas City and coming here.
Speaker 1: I left Kansas City because you know, they've known as winners,
Speaker 1: you know, so I came over here, you know, just
Speaker 1: expect to bring that winning tradition with me. And you know,
Speaker 1: slow and still don't us. You know, this is a
Speaker 1: it's a brotherhood, it's a family, and we all roster
Speaker 1: each other and we all make each other better. And
Speaker 1: he thrives on competition, so that's why he brings competition.
Speaker 1: But uh, I like, I like how things were going
Speaker 1: this year. You know, we were going through a pandemic
Speaker 1: and we will still you know, would be close to
Speaker 1: each other. And that's one thing I liked about this team,
Speaker 1: where you kept that brotherhood in that circle time and
Speaker 1: that that has that has a lot to do with
Speaker 1: us winning a lot of games too that we did
Speaker 1: this year. That it shows up in the in the
Speaker 1: biggest way of possible. Man. I think that was why
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why Dolphins fans really kind of
Speaker 1: gravitated towards this year's team more than maybe some of
Speaker 1: the past, because you guys just had so much fun
Speaker 1: playing together and it showed when we saw you guys
Speaker 1: on Sundays. I want to ask you this question here, Manuel.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is tough for you to think about, but
Speaker 1: did you have a favorite part, like one moment that
Speaker 1: really stands out to you, Whether it was you know,
Speaker 1: goofing around the locker room, or maybe it was on
Speaker 1: the team plane or you know, after a victory, did
Speaker 1: you have a favorite moment from year one of a Dolphin?
Speaker 1: I said that Oakland game, you know, yeah, that Oakland
Speaker 1: gang Um. I would say that was my favorite moment
Speaker 1: because to be honest with you, like I knew it
Speaker 1: wasn't over, well, you know, in the back of your mind,
Speaker 1: like dang, like you should have had these games ship,
Speaker 1: But I knew it wasn't over. But uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll say, when fists through that past, you know, and
Speaker 1: and Mad caught it. Oh boy, I was said that,
Speaker 1: I was, I was there, I was, I was, Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, dude, they just really really just happened. So
Speaker 1: I said, that was pretty amazing moment. And then Jason
Speaker 1: kicked that game in the field though which I turned
Speaker 1: my head. I couldn't have watched it. Uh well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was I'll say, that game right there is really
Speaker 1: you know, the game I was really excited by as
Speaker 1: a dolphin, even though it was like the say to
Speaker 1: the last game. I had a lot of great moments,
Speaker 1: but I was saying, that's the one that you know,
Speaker 1: I'll definitely talk about for for a very very very
Speaker 1: long time. You know, some kids, kids and all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nineteen seconds left, gotta go the entire field. That's just
Speaker 1: just that the odds aren't great, you're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: But of course fits and MATC Collins made that that
Speaker 1: fantastic play so so we're talking about this season, we
Speaker 1: got the upcoming season, and you know, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you're not one to hear us because you probably
Speaker 1: are enjoying a little bit of downtime right now. But man,
Speaker 1: I can't wait for August some training camp, to get
Speaker 1: to get back here and watch you guys go out
Speaker 1: and do this thing again in But what do you
Speaker 1: got in the meantime? Man? Like, what's coming up fun
Speaker 1: for you? From a vacation standpoint, hanging out chilling? I know,
Speaker 1: I know you stayed in South Florida, but what's what's
Speaker 1: coming up this offseason for you? Um? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: due to COVID, I couldn't really travel anywhere that I
Speaker 1: kind of want. I want to leave the country. I
Speaker 1: want to like go to a place I want to
Speaker 1: go to, like Mexico. I want to go a year,
Speaker 1: but really couldn't do that because of of COVID. But
Speaker 1: you know, I just I have plans on going on
Speaker 1: probably like Colorado. I want to skate. I want to
Speaker 1: snowboard because I've never been snowboard before. I know asthmen's
Speaker 1: it will be a good spot, you know to go
Speaker 1: out there. Um and just you know, check it out.
Speaker 1: But that's probably that's that's one of my trips. I
Speaker 1: think I got I got planned for this about this month.
Speaker 1: For next month, I gotta go to Colorado, hang on,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I'm still yeah, I'm still I'm still
Speaker 1: trying to decide, you know, a place to go. And
Speaker 1: then also you know, keeping this training with tain going
Speaker 1: since I kind of started now a little bit. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm Emmanuel, I can't. I can't let you
Speaker 1: go on that. You gotta tell us more about the
Speaker 1: snowboarding idea. Where like where did this come from? So, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I know you've you've mentioned before that you
Speaker 1: you watched them Cam Wake in the past. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you knew this, but Cam Wake was a
Speaker 1: big skier. He likes to ski. So again the ninety
Speaker 1: one comparisons coming over here, like where did this this, uh,
Speaker 1: this idea to go snowboarding come from? No, so growing up,
Speaker 1: I used to be a skateboarder, a skateboarder a lot
Speaker 1: going up, and so I just I just felt like
Speaker 1: snowboarding will be similar to you know, skateboard. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: I've never done it before, so it's something I would
Speaker 1: like to try just to see if I'm good at it.
Speaker 1: I guess. So when when you say you were skateboarding younger,
Speaker 1: how young are we talking here? I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: really stop scaring on to like my software of high
Speaker 1: school really yeah, skateboard or I'll say like I started
Speaker 1: really in like six seventh grade. Yeah, I didn't stop
Speaker 1: to like my software. I'm just like, when when did
Speaker 1: you hit that growth spur? Because I'm sitting here trying
Speaker 1: to picture a six ft four two and seventy five
Speaker 1: pound guy on a skateboarding I don't know how it works. Man.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was first. I was not always this big,
Speaker 1: and I was always the square a kid. But then again,
Speaker 1: I had really long arms, so I kind of knew
Speaker 1: I was gonna get like I was going to go
Speaker 1: into him. But uh, well, yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: did a lot of things, you know, as a young kid.
Speaker 1: You know, I try a lot of things and just
Speaker 1: to find what I'm good at, and you know, football
Speaker 1: was what I was really good at. Well, I know
Speaker 1: that it's probably in your contract to stay away from
Speaker 1: skateboards these days, but if I asked you to do
Speaker 1: a kick flip, right, now, could you do it a
Speaker 1: kick flip? It's been years. I could I could try.
Speaker 1: I could try. I think I could do it, but
Speaker 1: it's been years, so it might not be as good
Speaker 1: as it was in the past. But yeah, I could
Speaker 1: do a kicks. That's kind of like basic skateboarding. One
Speaker 1: O one. I was on my I was board today.
Speaker 1: I was on Facebook this morning and I went through
Speaker 1: some of my old photos and I actually have a
Speaker 1: video of myself from like ten years ago skateboard and
Speaker 1: grinding a rail going down the hill and then doing
Speaker 1: some work on on the coping some some ramps down there.
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe we bust a skateboard out one of
Speaker 1: these days at practice we put this kickflip thing to
Speaker 1: a test. I don't know, what do you think. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm down. I gotta get I gotta get a little
Speaker 1: active there before though. Yeah I'm down. Well, well, well
Speaker 1: we'll make sure that everyone's cool with that, because once
Speaker 1: again skateboarding. Maybe we'll put on the grass, because you know, skateboarding, man,
Speaker 1: that's asking for an accident. So the kickflip on the grass,
Speaker 1: maybe that's the competition. Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's that's fine.
Speaker 1: That works for me too. Alright, brother, Manu, A fantastic
Speaker 1: job on the podcast. Man, fantastic job this year. Your
Speaker 1: Dolphins defensive vent nine sacks this year and uh tons
Speaker 1: tons of pressures and quarterback hits and a big part
Speaker 1: of so many takeaways, the number one takeaway defense in
Speaker 1: the NFL, number one third down defense in the NFL. Man,
Speaker 1: you'll thank you so much for your time today. Man,
Speaker 1: we'll talk to you soon and enjoy the rest of
Speaker 1: your off season. Dude, thank you. I appreciate you having
Speaker 1: me on the shore. And God bless thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: God bless back at you. Man, You'll appreciate your time today.
Speaker 1: There he goes Dolphins defensive end Ammanuala. What a fun
Speaker 1: interview that was, kind of getting a peek behind the
Speaker 1: curtain of how the past rush game works, as well
Speaker 1: as his off season regiment. Talking some football there and
Speaker 1: some possible high school skateboarding. I'd love to see some
Speaker 1: footage there of Emmanual Agba on a skateboard in high school.
Speaker 1: All right, it's gonna be my time on this edition
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