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Speaker 1: saying you're gonna be the best tackle or left guard

425
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Speaker 1: in the league, right, I'm not. I think that though,

426
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,680
Speaker 1: that you are a definitely capable, good, solid starter. I

427
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 1: think that's I think that's you. And can you be

428
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,640
Speaker 1: even a very good one. Yeah, but I'm not saying

429
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,120
Speaker 1: you're trying to say you're gonna be the best in league.

430
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,639
Speaker 1: But people who say, like he's the worst league, hell no,

431
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:09,880
Speaker 1: hell no, alright, your take. I like that. I think

432
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 1: the point about you know, left tackle getting beat is

433
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 1: very true, and not only left tackle, but oh i'man

434
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 1: in general. I mean our job. If you just compare

435
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,679
Speaker 1: it to like a defensive linement for example, So if

436
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,399
Speaker 1: a defensive lineman has two good plays in a game sack,

437
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,880
Speaker 1: tackle for lost, they had a great game. Offensive linement.

438
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 1: If you have two bad plays in the game, two sacks,

439
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 1: maybe one went for like a fumble or something like that,

440
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,640
Speaker 1: terrible game. Like you could be dominating in the rung game,

441
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,199
Speaker 1: like just clearing holes, but you give up two sacks,

442
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 1: and that's like a game, and that's what people remember.

443
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 1: And I understand that, and that's part of the job,

444
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,239
Speaker 1: and we kind of take that on and that's why

445
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 1: we know, like you know, we've always got to be

446
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 1: on Like you can't take a playoff because that could

447
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 1: be the play that like's a sack fumbile touchdown, you know,

448
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,160
Speaker 1: something like that. So I think that's huge and I think,

449
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, not just left tackle, but everyone on the line,

450
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 1: uh kind of bears that sponsibility of of being like

451
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 1: the most consistent player on the field. I would say

452
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 1: offensive obviously quarterback, you know, besides quarterback, offensive lineman and corners.

453
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 1: It's a similar mindset, right, Like you can lock a

454
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: that down, but then you get beat one steep for

455
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,719
Speaker 1: a touchdown and it's like, oh man, like he let up,

456
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 1: you know, the game winning touchdown or whatever. It's the

457
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 1: same kind of thing. So it's it's it's just a

458
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 1: different mindset, you know from some other positions where you

459
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 1: kind of get away with, you know, having a bad

460
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: play here, bad play there, you don't get noticed as much.

461
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: But we're just kind of on an island, and that's

462
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 1: that's what it is. Um. I think that's definitely a

463
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: big part of it. And you know, the improvement thing obviously,

464
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 1: that's what you know, not just me, Um, not just Casey,

465
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 1: but like everyone in the NFL, when you're when you're

466
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 1: in the off season, your mindset has to be I've

467
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: got to get better or like I'm not gonna make

468
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: it because if I'm not getting better, they're drafting two

469
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: hundred fifty dudes and however many more undrafted free agents

470
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: every single year they're coming in. They just take people's jobs,

471
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 1: like literally every single year, there's just just new crop

472
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 1: of younger, faster, you know, more inner, cheaper, more energetic

473
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: players that are coming in to take a job. So

474
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Speaker 1: if you're not improving, you know, you're you're not lasting long.

475
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: You're not and that's just that's part of the business.

476
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 1: But um, you know, like you said, it's it's about

477
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: improving in the off season. If you had a bad

478
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 1: season before, you know, obviously you want to be better.

479
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: But if you had a good season before, you still

480
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: want to be better. So it's the same mindset, and um,

481
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: that's what that's what you work on the off season

482
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: to be a better player than you were the last year.

483
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: And the Pro Football Focus thing. I'll also point out

484
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: you had a better pass blocking percentage in terms of

485
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: giving up pressure than Rick Wagner did last year. I'm

486
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: not trying to say like you were a better player

487
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,479
Speaker 1: than Rick Wagner. Was last year, but even by their

488
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 1: own metrics, you had a better success rate and worst grades.

489
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 1: I just don't get it. I even took all the

490
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: guy on Twitter pro footballs. I was like this, this

491
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: is really struck a nerve with it. So the other

492
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 1: piece of it and I brought it up, but this

493
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Speaker 1: is I don't want to go total doomsday here, but

494
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 1: just the Flacco play. So like, how long does that

495
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 1: kind of play eat it you? Does it still bother you?

496
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: How long does it take you to get over it? Like?

497
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 1: What is your take on that? Yeah, I mean it's

498
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: it's like as tough as it gets, you know, because

499
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: there's an offensive lineman. If I don't do my job,

500
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: someone can get hurt literally, and so like it happens,

501
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 1: and so being uh that was my what second year?

502
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, so like it's freaking terrible, but you know,

503
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: lucky enough for me. Joe is an amazing guy. So

504
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: I come in the locker room like I don't know

505
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: two days later and maybe something like that, and Joe's

506
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: sitting there and I'm like, hey, man, like I'm sorry,

507
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: and he just looks at me, and I know he's

508
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: like serious and not just giv me a lip service.

509
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: He's like, seriously, man, like, don't worry about it, Like

510
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: we're playing football out there. Like I understand, And I'm like,

511
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. And that was and I know, like

512
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: do I ever think about it? Yeah, like I think

513
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: about it. But because he said that to me, it

514
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: kind of just gave me peace of the whole situation

515
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: and understanding that, like we're playing football out there. It's

516
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: a contact sport. People are gonna get beat put on

517
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: the ground, you know, people are gonna get hurt vice versa.

518
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: And so just having him tell me that, you know,

519
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: as a young player, was meant a lot. It's crazy

520
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people don't recognize joe

521
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: Is leadership ability, and I feel like that story kind

522
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: of underscores it, like he's not somebody that's gonna be

523
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: like the out in the front guy. But I feel like, like,

524
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: how much for you, as a young guy did you

525
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: take from that moment for the franchise quarterback say that

526
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, it was a huge deal being young,

527
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: having a you know, a bad game, bad play, and

528
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: just having the franchise quarterback say, you know, like, hey man,

529
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: it's all good. It was a huge deal. Um, it

530
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: would be a huge deal to anyone, you know, young

531
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: or old. And so his leadership, like you said it is,

532
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: people kind of knock it because he's not you know,

533
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: raw raw loud all the time, but like having him

534
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: and says like on the same team and my eyes

535
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: is great because sciss is he's always gonna be up,

536
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna be hype, and he's a vocal leader and

537
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: he's like leading the guy. But like when we're in

538
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: the huddle and it's the fourth quarter, went on too much,

539
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: try to win the game. You look at Joe and

540
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: you just have confidence that like, hey, we're gonna score,

541
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: like there's no question. And so you know, knowing that

542
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: and that leadership style, it's different, sure, but it's it's effective.

543
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: Speaking of leadership, Sucks came on our podcast last year

544
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: and talked about how he was talking about the locker

545
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: the lockers switching right and he used to like to

546
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: sit next to Hlody it's the lockers switch ship and

547
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: you were right next to yeah man three years was

548
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: but he actually he gave you some props. He was like,

549
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm kind of happy about it. I

550
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: would have never got to meet a guy like James

551
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: Hurts who we've become good friends. You know, we we

552
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: definitely have um. He tries to play music, you know

553
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: that that we can both kind of enjoy and sing

554
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: along together. So you know, I appreciate it. He definitely

555
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: gets us up. He's got the TV, you know, his locker,

556
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: so the movies are on. That keeps me, you know,

557
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: up to date and pop culture, which I think is

558
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: a good is a good thing. But no, it's been hilarious.

559
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: And you know last year having Steve Smith like one

560
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: Down or something like that too, it was it was

561
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: always a riot over there. So I've I've really enjoyed that.

562
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: Didn't Steve hook you up? You and he were boys, Yeah,

563
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: we we So for whatever reason, I think I went

564
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: to you and See. Obviously he was with the Panthers

565
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: for a long time. Right. I don't know if he

566
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: likes you and See, but I think, yeah, the Carolina connection.

567
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: So he came in. He made he's a guy that

568
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: made me wear like a he Man costume and see

569
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: sing a song. So that was great, Like who doesn't

570
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: love to wear he made cost so he gave me that.

571
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, then he I think he got my walker

572
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: moved over there, which was great because I was by

573
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: the showers and like, you know, some of the best lockers,

574
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: so you kind of move away from there, but yeah,

575
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: it's a great spot. And he he was great. Um,

576
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: he was just a great dude. Give me some bait goods, yeah,

577
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: oh oh yeah. He would hook the oh line. I

578
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: think in some select de linemen up with like some gingerbread,

579
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 1: you know, every every so often from from Whole Foods.

580
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: And literally I come in one day and he's like, hey, man,

581
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: you like gingerbread. I was like, yeah, so here try this.

582
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: So I ate it and he says, did you like that?

583
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, it was good. He said

584
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: all right, sweet. Next like next week there's like a

585
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: little mini loft sitting on my walker, and then from

586
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: that point on, like there were more and more loaves

587
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: kind of like the spurs out of the locker room.

588
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: So it was something he always did and I always

589
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: loved it. That's awesome. What kind of leader is Marshall?

590
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: You gotta talk to talk about him and kind of

591
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: the leadership he's provided for you, and something that people

592
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: may not know about Marshall, Um, he's I mean, that's

593
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: a tough question. Obviously, he's a great leader, he's a

594
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: great person. He's a really like this is so cliche,

595
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, but he's like such a blue collar guy,

596
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: like he's just gonna come in, he's gonna work. Everything

597
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: he does is like he never takes a rep that's

598
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: like half speed because he knows, you know, he would

599
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: be wasting his time. So just seeing that, seeing a

600
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: guy and his like like eleventh season or something like

601
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: that that's still able to do that, and like, I

602
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: know that dude's body hurts way worse than mind because

603
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: that dude has been in some wars. But just seeing that,

604
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: you know, kind of is a constant reminder of like, okay,

605
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: like why am I not working that hard? You know,

606
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: It's it's always a reminder. It's like, especially the younger

607
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: guys of like, hey, you need to push yourself. And

608
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: if you put yourself, you know you can become a

609
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: great player. I mean, no one's saying you're gonna be

610
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: as good as Marshall because he's a legend, but um,

611
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: you know you can be a great player and be

612
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: a starter in the league. School. So the other thing

613
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: we want to ask you about before we leatch you

614
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: out here is the big news on the offensive line

615
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: at the start of camp, just before camp was John Herschel.

616
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: And I know that you and John are good friends,

617
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 1: and I think that you know, it caught a lot

618
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: of people were surprised just because it was unexpected of

619
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: so sudden, but I think when people look at it,

620
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: it's not a total shock, knowing what he has outside

621
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: of football. Just what was your take on John Herschel's

622
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: decision to retire? Did a surprise you? Did you have

623
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: any idea it was coming? No, so, no idea that

624
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: it was coming, And I think you said it just then.

625
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: The timing really was the shock of it all. I think,

626
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, you just said, like he's got this this

627
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: amazing like math science career. I guess I don't even

628
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: know if that like correctly, but you know, he's I mean,

629
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: he's a legit, Like he's a genius. And so, first

630
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: of all, I can't even put myself in his shoes

631
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: of having like this second career that where he is

632
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: like the top one percent or whatever he is, which

633
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: I think he might be. I mean, he's killing it

634
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: in my t right now. But the timing of it

635
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: was really what was shocking. Um, he didn't tell me before.

636
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: There was no like sign. I mean, he came to

637
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: the meetings, you know, the first night, um, and then

638
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, woke up the next morning. I'm like, he

639
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: texted me after he called him and he's like, hey,

640
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: you know, I just want you to know I've decided

641
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: to retire, like I'm eating, and I'm like, did you

642
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: think it was a joke. No, I didn't think it

643
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: was a joke because it was kind of longer than

644
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: like I could you just by the tone of you know,

645
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: the words that he chose, I could tell that he's

646
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: being serious. But I did ask. I was like, dang,

647
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: like are you serious? And he's like, yeah, you know,

648
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: I've just been thinking about it, and I've decided that

649
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play anymore. And so you know, obviously,

650
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, we're good friends. And I told him, you know,

651
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: I respect your decision. You know, we'll talk about it later,

652
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: and you know, good luck with with everything you do,

653
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: and we'll be you know, I'll be seeing you around.

654
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure. But it was I mean, it was a shock.

655
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: You know, no one knew, especially you. I would just

656
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: ride as camp starting that we were going to lose

657
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: a guy that was going to be I mean, he

658
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: was gonna be crucial, you know, especially what you can't

659
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: foresee all the injuries. Um, but he's going to be

660
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: a crucial player for our team. And um so that

661
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: you know, looking back hindsight obviously, but it's it was

662
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: a tough timing. But you know, I know that he

663
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: made the best decision for him on his his life

664
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: and his fiancee and onborn child child to come. Yeah.

665
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: Well last question for you is you said you're a

666
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: gamer and you're also a board gamer. Oh yeah, me,

667
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: you and Erschel are playing a board game, he's most

668
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: likely to win. What's the game? It doesn't matter, Yeah,

669
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where the game. So I'll say this

670
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: like about erschelan board games, great friend, great guy. I

671
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: hate playing board games with Herschel because he like, there's

672
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: some games out there where you just kind of kick

673
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: back and you know what, I'm just gonna risk it here,

674
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: Like I'm just gonna go for it. I know that

675
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: that dude has never said that ever. Every single decision

676
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: he makes is purely mathematical, and I don't even think

677
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: he can control it. Like it is so second nature

678
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: to him to analyze. Like he'll always ask like, say,

679
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: you've got like like this trap card in the debt.

680
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: I'll always ask, like how many cards on that debt?

681
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: And then I'll say how many trap cards are in

682
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: the deck. And so you know, like he's doing this math.

683
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: He's counting the cards that are getting flipped and he's

684
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: like doing this math in his head. He's like, oh, well,

685
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: it's my best it's in my best interest to continue

686
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: on here. And it's just like, dude, just relax and like,

687
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: just please give us a chance. So the bad thing

688
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: doesn't work out for him, he could always go to

689
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: professional and start counting cards. Well, James Hurst, thank you

690
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: for joining us. Appreciate Thank you guys. All right, well,

691
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: thank you to James. You know, he's my boy. I'll

692
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: say it loud and proud. He's my guy. Look, I

693
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: like James. I'm a fan of hand and I'm glad

694
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: that you have more of a fan after the interview.

695
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: I've always been a fan. I'm glad that you got

696
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: your James Hurst rant off your chest. So now that

697
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: you've done it, I hope to never hear you bring

698
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: it up again. I don't want to ever hear you

699
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: mention it. I'm just tired of it. So at least

700
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: you got it off your chest. You got to deliver

701
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: straight to James, and I'm glad that that was a

702
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: big opportunity for you. Yeah. Now what I'm really excited

703
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: about is a pizza draft. We're gonna kick off this

704
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: partnership here, this sponsorship with a pizza toppings draft, the

705
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: next big draft, and we even are bringing on the

706
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: common Man to judge it. As always, thank you for

707
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: coming on, common that's right, always good to be here.

708
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,760
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709
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710
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711
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712
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716
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717
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718
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719
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: Come in you approve of this, your job listen. I

720
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: helped make this happen. I talked to my good friends

721
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: over Papa John's. Is that Papa's house? Actually? Really? Yeah?

722
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: A couple of months ago, is that Papa's house? Got

723
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: a good wording for you guys, It was this house,

724
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: like it's awesome. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Did serve pizza?

725
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: He did serve pizza. He's got a he's got a

726
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: pizza oven in his yard. Oh yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah,

727
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: Papa is cool. But you know, we're happy to have

728
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: Papa on as the first the inaugural sponsor of the last. Alright,

729
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: So with that said, let's get straight into the newest,

730
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: the biggest draft that we're gonna have. So what we

731
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: do here this is pizza toppings draft. So we put

732
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: together a list of ten pizza toppings and make an eye.

733
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: Are going to go through and pick obviously our favorite toppings.

734
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: I should read the ten first. Yes, here the topics.

735
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: He's the judge. Alright, fine, you read them alright, ten toppings.

736
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: And before I start, I've ranked every top rankings. I've

737
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: ranked every topping on a scale of one to ten,

738
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: ten being the highest, so that I could judge this

739
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: fairly and accurately without any bias. So here they are,

740
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: in no particular order, pepperoni, sausage, ham, pineapple, extra cheese, bacon, mushrooms,

741
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: green peppers, chicken, onions. All right, And so when we're

742
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: drafting this, it's not like we're putting together a fool

743
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: pizza like your five that you you draft, Those aren't

744
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,439
Speaker 1: going on a pizza and we're judging it's this one slice. Yeah,

745
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: it's basically you're judging the kitchen. What do I have

746
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: in my kitchen, the options that I have at my disposal.

747
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: You're judging the topping itself. You're not judging and how

748
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: good it is the pizza. This is like if I

749
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: were just to eat ham separately for breakfast. That's not

750
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: what we're judging. Totally different discussions, totally different Who's going first,

751
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: best of one? One? Classic? Here we go. I'm gonna lose.

752
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: I always lose. Yeah, got the paper, baby, make man paper?

753
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: All right? Number one, first one off the board. A

754
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: great disc This is the right pick. This is the classic.

755
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: This is the classic. Make move you have going gainst sausage.

756
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: You have one set up on the tea. If there's

757
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: any first pick, the obvious first pick, the Andrew Luck

758
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: of pizza dresses. Pepperoni. I knew it simple. You are basic.

759
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: You are so basic. Look you took you took Ryan Leaf,

760
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: and I'm taking page. There's so much more flavor and

761
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: sausage than there is pepperoni. Pepperoni is just a grease disc.

762
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: As a judge, I'm not at all surprised by the

763
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: first two picks. Garrett traditional uh, you know, goes to

764
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: the bread and butter, may mace goes a little bit off.

765
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: And now I will say sausage is not a bad

766
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: first pick, all right. Now pick number two extra cheese,

767
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: that goes back to the bread and butter. Here cheese,

768
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: it's just, oh, it's just coming off the pizza, dripping

769
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: off the pizza. That's an overthought pick. You overthinking. You

770
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: too much cheese. Here's the problem with pizza. When you

771
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: get pizza that's out of whack. You need a good

772
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: pray about too much cheese, sauce, cheese ratio, and your

773
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: is gonna be completely out of whack. I'm gonna go

774
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: ahead and take this is maybe a little unconventional. Stack

775
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: your board, do you do your research. I'm gonna go ahead.

776
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: This is maybe a conventional, but it's a good pick. Bacon. Oh,

777
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: that's a terrible pick. Bacon. Bacon, Bacon for breakfast. Bacon

778
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: is perfect. It's the works. It goes on. You know

779
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: a lot of different pizza. Bacon is a great one.

780
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: Bacon for me. Papa John's Thin Cross bacon is an

781
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: all time classic pizza. Oh that means that's help of

782
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: my score right there. That's out of my score right there.

783
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: All right, next next choice. I know where he's going

784
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: because I'm going healthy, but I know what he's doing.

785
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: I know what he's doing. I knew you were going

786
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: to do. I love mushrooms. Mushrooms, Well, what kind of questions?

787
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna go mushrooms and find a

788
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: way to screw this thing up. You were on your

789
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: way to having one of the worst drafts again in history. Alright,

790
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: sausage and mushroom is my go to, like combo if

791
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm doing two stoppings, mushroom sausage. But again, that's not

792
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: what this dress. That's not what this is. I'm I'm

793
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: just go mushroom pizza. Alright, So I have basically a

794
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: great board of my disposal here. I'm gonna take another

795
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: meat chicken. Is there any terrible terrible? Is there? I

796
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: seriously rank that number nine on my list. Is there

797
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: anybody that can rival my epperoni, bacon chicken. I'm a

798
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: protein gus a meat and potatoes, you know, Middle America

799
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: through Yes, what would you rather have? Mushroom pizza or

800
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: the chicken pizza? A good day? The topping it's just

801
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: not it doesn't really offer that much flavor. It's a

802
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: weird texture on a pizza. I don't like chicken that

803
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: a I tend to agree. Yeah, okay, I'm taking I'm

804
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: gonna meet too, but away better meat ham. Give me

805
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: some good old ham, right, pizza Ham is like the

806
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: flavorful of pepperoni. Yes, yeah, I've already got the good pork.

807
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: I've already got the good pork. Bacon is already off

808
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: the board. You're taking the red headed step child. It's delicious.

809
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: That means it's like the hot dog and pizza. I

810
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: don't like to ask questions when it comes to I

811
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: seriously have no idea. Ham as always is one of

812
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: the softest, worst meats in any yeah, I will say

813
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: ham sandwich, no, thank you, give me to pizza on

814
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: this list to yeah, you would have like total all right.

815
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: So another great pick here that I have. I'm shocked

816
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: to get it with. My fourth overall pick is is

817
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: green peppers. So you've got to get a little Veggian

818
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: there a classic veggie pizza. Green peppers are really the

819
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: main course of the veggie pizza. So green peppers here. Okay,

820
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: So we have the pineapple. Pineapple are on you, and

821
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: you know I want a nice refreshing pizza. You know,

822
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: sometimes I want something in the middle of summer, the

823
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: dead as summer, I'm feeling a little wacky, and I

824
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: pick the pineapple. Baby, here's the other bonus of this. Okay.

825
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: I have a ham slice in one hand and a

826
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: pineapple slice in the other. I take a bite of each.

827
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: Is delicious. I don't care. So you're basically over from

828
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: the Hawaiian pizza you. I don't know how you continue

829
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: to do it. It blows my mind. Draft after draft

830
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: after draft, find a way to screw this thing up. Ham, pineapple,

831
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: mushrooms and extra cheese are on your side. I have

832
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: to leave it, all right, so, so I'm gonna get

833
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 1: onion here. Who the hell eats a straight onion pizza?

834
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: You know who eats had pizza? A thirty year old

835
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: man living in their parents basically. But that's the only

836
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 1: person that would seriously eat a pizza with only onions

837
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: on it. But I don't they maybe even put funions on.

838
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: But I don't want a straight onion pizza. I can

839
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: put that. Onion's got to compliment all my other great toppings.

840
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: Let's go, all right, I'm up the scores right now,

841
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: hold on real quick, so make what were your five topics? Sausage, ham,

842
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: extra cheese, pineapple, and mushrooms? Great? This is an absolute blowout. Yeah,

843
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: this is so bad, Garrett, what were your five bacon? Chicken,

844
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 1: green peppers again, green peppers? In the fourth round? Inner onion? Wow,

845
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: this is bad. The final score was thirty four one,

846
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: which is a pretty big difference when there's this few

847
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: points to go around. Yes, uh, one of you have

848
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: actually managed to have the bottom three the number one

849
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: ingredient ten points. Pepperoni, God, you guys, guy, Pepperoni, pizza

850
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: number two, sausage number two, sausage. So you guys started

851
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: one too, very good. He had first pick though, So

852
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: you're so number three bacon, Oh yeah, number four, number

853
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: four onion, yes, yes, number five mushrooms. All right. Then

854
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: we went green peppers, chicken ham, pineapple, extra cheese. Last,

855
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: you went extra cheese. Last. Let me explain something. Are

856
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: you talking about a cheese slice? Just normal cheese slices?

857
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: The best piece of pizza there is. You don't need

858
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: any topics when you add extra cheese. That is the

859
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 1: most desperate move in all pizza topics. You're an idiot.

860
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 1: You're extra cheese is the most worthless. Listen, don't respect

861
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: extra cheese. It's already got cheese on. All right, So

862
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: there we go. So once again I come away with

863
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: a victory and another draft, another blowout victory to make

864
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: make enjoy your hand. Pineapple, cheese, mushroom pizza. This goes

865
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: that you forgot my top pick. All right. Anyway, moving on,

866
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: Thank you common man for screwing up the judging on

867
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: this one, and we'll bring you back for the beer draft.

868
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 1: Well maybe you'll do it the halfway. Decent job. Always

869
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: good to be here, thanks guys. Well that does it

870
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: for us. In today's episode, once again, another draft win

871
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: for me. You don't need to say any close You

872
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: know what fans can do email. They can email us

873
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: at the lounge at Raven's on NFL dot net. Let

874
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: us know you think one of the pizza draft. That

875
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: should be an easy decision. Thank you very much for

876
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: listening and we will be back with you next week.

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Speaker 1: SP