1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Hey, Larry, thanks for doing this. Hey, how you doing good? Good? Good? 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Is it hard for you to believe that? 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 2: You know, by the end of this year, you'll have 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: been a Giant just as long as you were a Jet. 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, how does that? How does does 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: that make sense to you at all? 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 3: You feel like you spent the equal amount of time 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 3: with both teams. 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 4: I think I'll forever be grateful to the Jets for 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 4: giving me my first opportunity in the NFL, you know, 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 4: by drafting me there. But I've been with the Giants 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 4: so long now that the Jets almost feel like pretty 13 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 4: distant to me at this point. Like when I see 14 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 4: the Jets on the schedule, it's not like something I'm like, whoa, 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 4: I used to play there, you know, I kind of 16 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 4: just see them as like another opponent on the schedule 17 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 4: at this point. But uh, I guess like around this time, 18 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 4: when we finally have them up this week is when 19 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 4: I start to you know, I get messages from my 20 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 4: old teammates and stuff like that that, you know, bring 21 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 4: it up, but I forget about it intil those moments. 22 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 4: But you know, it's always exciting to to play in 23 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 4: this game. 24 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: What does this What does this game mean to the Jets? 25 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: You probably know more than anybody what this game means 26 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: to the Jets, and and now what it means to 27 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: the Giants. Uh. 28 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 4: Honestly, throughout my career, no matter what coach I've played for, 29 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 4: you know, they they try to let you know that. 30 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 4: You know, it's a big game to the people of 31 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 4: New York and the fans of both teams. But at 32 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 4: the same time, it would be good of the team 33 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 4: to treat it like a regular week, you know, just 34 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 4: like every game. We don't want to get too high 35 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 4: or too low, you know, after a win or after 36 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 4: a loss, or leading up to a game even we 37 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: never like to try to get too high or too low. 38 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 4: So as far as players and coaches, I think we 39 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 4: try to treat it as a regular game and prepare 40 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 4: the same way we would. 41 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, hey letton what's going on? 42 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: Man's how would you describe the rivalry to somebody who, 43 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: let's sit it from outside the area they don't know 44 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: anything about, you know, the Giant or just how would 45 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: you describe it raborate to them? 46 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's a big one because it's uh, 47 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 4: you know, too new York teams. We also play in 48 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 4: the same stadium, so I think, you know, for the fans, 49 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 4: they love to see it. You know, this area is 50 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 4: known for like blue collar type of people, so it's 51 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 4: like gritty type of old school football per se. And 52 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 4: I think like fans love to see it. 53 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: And you've been in both places a decent amount of time. 54 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 3: How what to you is the biggest difference being with 55 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: the Giants compared to being with the Jets. 56 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 4: Hmmm, I mean that's a good question. I think there 57 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 4: would be a big difference of any organization you go to. 58 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 4: There's you know, there's from the top down the whole 59 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 4: different staff of people. But you know, I really like 60 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 4: appreciating my time at both places. But you know, I 61 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 4: think at this point I have grown to love the 62 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: Giants longer. I've been here longer, and uh, I think 63 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 4: I love the tradition here a little bit more. 64 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: Brian Dumley by, Hey, Leonard, thanks for doing this. 65 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 5: We talked last week about how it felt like that 66 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 5: was a game the defensive line could really assert itself. 67 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 5: Do you feel like it certainly looked like you guys 68 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 5: did that. Do you feel like you did that? And 69 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 5: can you guys do that now going forward? Do you 70 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 5: feel like that's the standard for you dex cave on 71 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 5: all those guys to play at now going forward, now 72 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 5: that you've shown you can dominate a game. 73 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I feel like leading up to the game, 74 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: just from what we've seen on film, teams getting after 75 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 4: them on defense against their offense in terms of like 76 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 4: sacks and pressures and things like that. And I think 77 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 4: as a whole front, we've seen it as an opportunity 78 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: to you know, step up those sack numbers or get 79 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: to the quarterback. And I think we did a good 80 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 4: job of that. I think the coaches did a good 81 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 4: job of putting everybody in position for that and we 82 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: made it happen as players. And I think going forward 83 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: that gives the defense confidence in those areas. Whenever you 84 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: thrive in a certain area in any game, it kind 85 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: of shows the team that you can do it, so 86 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 4: you know, you want to keep doing it more. And 87 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 4: I think it's definitely given our you know, front and 88 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 4: rush some juice going forward. 89 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 5: Only a couple of weeks ago, Leonard, we were asking about, like, 90 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 5: why is the defense struggling? 91 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: Why are you guys, why are you guys missing. 92 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 5: So many tackles, and I know things change quickly in 93 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 5: this league. Why do you think you've gone from that? 94 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 5: I guess that was probably like week three or four 95 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 5: to three weeks later dominating. Like, is that just guys 96 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 5: needing time to gel? It's not that many different faces underwink. 97 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 5: Why did it take maybe this long to get the 98 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 5: defense to gel? Or is there like an actual schematic 99 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 5: change you can point to, or an attitude change that 100 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 5: made a big difference between then and now. 101 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 4: I think there's like quite a few actors. Actually, you know, 102 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 4: I feel like there's we have a young team. There's 103 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 4: some rookies that are starting on the team that you know, 104 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 4: have to get adjusted to the speed of the game, 105 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 4: like where their teammates are going to be on certain plays, 106 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: like all this, all these adjustments, there's uh, players from 107 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 4: different systems, whether they're older or younger, They're coming into 108 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 4: a new system and have to develop like new ways 109 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 4: of playing with each other. Uh, there's different you know, 110 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 4: ways people play with their front and backers, like how 111 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 4: they fit off of each other and things like that. 112 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 4: And uh, you know, throughout the beginning of the season, 113 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: when we knew we were struggling. Those areas we clearly 114 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 4: try to like harness in and uh, you know correct 115 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 4: those those areas of the defense. And uh, I think 116 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 4: we have such a good brotherhood on defense that like 117 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: we really take pride and like doing our job for 118 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 4: the man next to us. And when it's something that 119 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 4: we focus on and harp on, I think everybody takes 120 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 4: pride and fixing it. 121 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 5: And the last one that I know, you don't play 122 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 5: again to the third defense, the Jets defense. 123 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: You'll play against their offense. 124 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 5: But two things like do you measure do you like 125 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 5: look at it as a measuring stick? 126 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: Like they have a. 127 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 5: Great defense, You have a great defense. Do you consider 128 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 5: it like we have to out defend their defense? And 129 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 5: they're really outspoken Leo about like they want to be 130 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 5: a historic defense like the Legion of Boom or the 131 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 5: eighty five Bears. You guys don't usually say stuff like that. 132 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 5: Do you consider like, oh, if we like that a 133 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 5: measuring stick? 134 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: I guess I never looked at it as a measuring stick, 135 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 4: But I think they do have a good defense. But 136 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: at the same time, I think, just like I said 137 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: about this brotherhood of defense, taking pride and what we 138 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 4: do for the guy next to us. I think we 139 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 4: also take pride and wanted to be the best defense 140 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 4: anytime we step on the field, no matter what team 141 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 4: it's against, we want to be the best defense. And 142 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 4: we are competing against their offense, of course, but we 143 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: also are competing against the whole field. So I think 144 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 4: we take pride and we can we will continue to 145 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 4: be that way. 146 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: Thanks, yeah, sir, We'll take one more. Art Stapleton, Hey. 147 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: Leo, didn't didn't get a chance to ask you yesterday, 148 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: but UH, with their backs to the wall in the 149 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: same end zone two plays obviously the field goal block. 150 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: Is there something that you saw on film coming in 151 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: that you thought you know a block was possible? 152 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: How did it? How did it play out in your eyes? 153 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 4: I think coach t Mack does a good job of, like, 154 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 4: you know, showing us where the holes are on field 155 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: goal protection for our defense, and uh, in that situation. 156 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 4: A lot of times I'm on the back side of 157 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 4: the block, and in this particular situation, he called a 158 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 4: call where I was a part of the block on 159 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: this one, and you know, I just knew that we 160 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: let the offense drive a little bit, and I just 161 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: remember getting in my stands next to Nacho, and Nacho's 162 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 4: like loading up, like and I'm just like, hey man, 163 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 4: this could be a huge play right here, Like let's 164 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 4: get this block. This could be it right here, you know. 165 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 4: And I think he didn't look at me or say anything, 166 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 4: but I could just tell by the way he was 167 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 4: screwing his cleats in that he was ready to get 168 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 4: off the ball. And I think he did a great 169 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 4: job of like getting off the ball and driving and 170 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: it allowed me to use that drive to get a 171 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 4: little bit penetration and get my hand up. And it 172 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 4: was great teamwork, honestly, and great communication. I think we 173 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 4: like spoking it into existence a little bit. 174 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: And just to ask you about the goal line stand, 175 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: obviously on the last you know, play that was incomplete. 176 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: Bob Bobby Oh said. 177 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 2: Yesterday that you know, the message in the in the huddle, 178 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: as it always is with Wings defense, is attack that 179 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: you guys were not going to lay back. 180 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: You were going to attack. What kind of confidence does 181 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: this show in. 182 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: This defense at every level to know that in that 183 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: situation it's basically you know zero and go after it 184 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: and see whatever happens on the end. 185 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 4: I honestly love that mindset as a defender, we like 186 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 4: to be like known as like hunters and people that 187 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 4: get after it and like we're like a pack, you know, 188 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: and to to instill that mindset in the defense and 189 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 4: like have that as a group, uh, really creates a 190 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 4: nasty mentality. And one thing Wink says a lot that 191 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 4: I love is he says, we always hold the pen last. 192 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 4: And I like that because, you know, even if offenses 193 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 4: are audibling or you know, checking or motioning or anything 194 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 4: like that, like we feel like we have the pen 195 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 4: last and we're gonna make them do what we want 196 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: them to do. And Uh, I like that mindset. That's fine.