WEBVTT - The Great Blacklash Election 

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome home, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>This is episode 156 of Native Lamb Pod, where we

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<v Speaker 1>give you all things politics and culture.

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<v Speaker 2>And today, guess what? We mostly politics.

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<v Speaker 3>We out here.

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<v Speaker 2>We have bottles of pop. We be popping them bottles, bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>We are excited.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a big, big day. And, sadly, we're missing

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<v Speaker 1>a co-host. He's probably still out celebrating.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just kidding. He has another job.

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<v Speaker 1>He's at Bakari Cellars. But it is me today, Angela Rye,

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<v Speaker 1>with my.

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<v Speaker 2>Favorite brother in Politico. That is Andrew Gillum.

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<v Speaker 3>What's up, everybody? Welcome home.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. We're here. We're going to get started because we

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot to get into today.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew, you know, we normally do four-year situational awareness when

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<v Speaker 1>we start. Y'all, we're not even giving you a rundown.

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<v Speaker 1>The rundown is the 2026 midterms, okay? The Black Lash.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the Black Lash.

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<v Speaker 1>And on that point, I think that's a good place

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<v Speaker 1>to start. Let's run this clip from our friend Terrence Woodbury,

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<v Speaker 1>who talked about what the Black Lash is from polling data.

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<v Speaker 1>He's saying Terrence Woodbury was just on with us, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was last week, from Hit Strategies talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the blacklash and what it would mean, what this election

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<v Speaker 1>would mean as a referendum from black voters to the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the country.

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<v Speaker 4>And since it was Woodbury who coined the term blacklash

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<v Speaker 4>and it was his strategies research who detected the blacklash,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought I would take a second just to tell

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<v Speaker 4>y'all what it actually is. Blacklash is a counterforce of

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<v Speaker 4>black voters clapping back against effort to limit, reduce, or

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<v Speaker 4>oppress our votes and our power. We have quite literally

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<v Speaker 4>detected this blacklash all over the country, but it is

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<v Speaker 4>really concentrated in the South. Places like Georgia, where the

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<v Speaker 4>black share of the electorate is up to 32%. Louisiana,

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<v Speaker 4>where black share of the electorate is up to 34%.

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<v Speaker 4>In North Carolina, the black share of the electorate is

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<v Speaker 4>up to 24%. This backlash is giving black candidates like

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<v Speaker 4>Keisha Bottoms in Georgia, Aaron Ford in Nevada, and David

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<v Speaker 4>Crowley in Wisconsin the chance of becoming three black governors

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<v Speaker 4>when there's only been three in American history. So let's

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<v Speaker 4>go make history.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this.

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<v Speaker 1>And Andrew, part of the reason is, you know, Terrence

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<v Speaker 1>says you have a chance. So this is before we

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<v Speaker 1>got the election results last night. He says we have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. to make history in Georgia, Nevada, and Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>And Terrence, because his dad is always on point, is

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right. The history was made in Georgia, Nevada, and Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>Wes Moore campaigned on the idea that I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be the only black governor in this country. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that on the other side of this, when we

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<v Speaker 1>saw him during ALC, He said that he was anticipating

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<v Speaker 1>having a gubernatorial black caucus and he got his wish.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Byron Donald's also one.

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<v Speaker 1>But given that he is skinfolk and not kinfolk, he

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<v Speaker 1>will not like to join that black caucus.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, just pulling back for a minute, Angela, first

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<v Speaker 3>of all, I know you don't like this, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna say it anyway. Kudos to you for assembling, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most impressive collections of black journalists and culture,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, As well as political figures to last night's

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<v Speaker 3>coverage to bring that into people's homes. You know, we

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<v Speaker 3>know we weren't the first ones breaking news and calling

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<v Speaker 3>races first. But you it was a room of people

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<v Speaker 3>who have been deeply invested in our community, sharing our

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<v Speaker 3>collective knowledge about about these elections. Black Lash is like.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Terrence, for claiming credit for that, by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>You own that. And I've heard it on other networks

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<v Speaker 3>and nobody's giving credit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we don't give credit, whereas do around here, Terrence Wilbury.

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<v Speaker 3>The outcomes, Angela, were beyond. I mean, I know I

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<v Speaker 3>got PTSD about elections. You know I have PTSD about elections, right?

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<v Speaker 3>So I always cap my enthusiasm just at a certain level.

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<v Speaker 3>I stay at a hum level. With these races, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm vibrating. I feel something. Something might happen here, but

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<v Speaker 3>something might not happen here. Unfortunately, my home state, Florida,

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<v Speaker 3>as we sometimes do, but around the country in Georgia,

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<v Speaker 3>Keisha Lance Bottoms, of course, John Ossoff, 60% of the

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<v Speaker 3>vote in Georgia went to him, right? In Georgia, they

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<v Speaker 3>swept every single cabinet seat that was on the ballot. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>and picked up the majority now of the commission, UT's

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<v Speaker 3>commission for the state. Everybody is a black woman in

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<v Speaker 3>the Georgia cabinet, except the Lieutenant Governor, right? In Texas,

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<v Speaker 3>They took the whole state. They turned out every single

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<v Speaker 3>Republican cabinet member that they had. Not one of them

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<v Speaker 3>exists today. They still hold their current position, but they

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<v Speaker 3>will not be in a new administration. They took all

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<v Speaker 3>of it out. And it wasn't by small margins. We're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about 50, 54, 55, 52, 53 percent votes. It

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<v Speaker 3>was it was an incredible night. And I'm actually still

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<v Speaker 3>pinching myself to make sure this thing is real.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that you brought up Georgia, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Besides John Ossoff and Josh McLaurin, who's the lieutenant governor,

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<v Speaker 1>you have Keisha Lance Bottoms, the governor. You have Penny

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<v Speaker 1>Brown Reynolds, secretary of state. You have Tanya Miller, attorney general.

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<v Speaker 1>You have Catherine Juhon Arnold, the agricultural commissioner. You have

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<v Speaker 1>Keisha Sean Waits, the insurance commissioner. You have Nikki Porcher,

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<v Speaker 1>labor commissioner.

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<v Speaker 2>All black women. It's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>And so to this point, Andrew, I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to first the happiness and the exuberance that you saw

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<v Speaker 1>from Georgia given this outcome.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw it live on our show last night with

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<v Speaker 2>the Zactivists.

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<v Speaker 3>Incomprehendable.

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<v Speaker 1>I was having a panic attack, but Andrew was enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>every moment of it.

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<v Speaker 2>We cannot hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's roll this clip. It's clip four from Zachary Kirk.

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<v Speaker 1>We also have someone who is a content creator. His

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<v Speaker 1>name is the Zactivists. Zachary Kirk is live and I

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<v Speaker 1>think ready to join us now.

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<v Speaker 2>Zach, are you with us? Zach, are you with us?

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<v Speaker 2>There he is. I am with you, baby. Live from Atlanta, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>With celebrities, with celebrities, boo. That's what we give you

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<v Speaker 2>in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 7>Where we have made history with Keisha Lance Bottoms as

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<v Speaker 7>the first black woman in American history to be named

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<v Speaker 7>governor of a state, the great state of Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>This city is so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>It is bananas outside.

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<v Speaker 3>It is bananas in this building. Keisha's coming out shortly.

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<v Speaker 2>It is wild. I've not seen.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, we're going to have to get a piece of Keisha.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>When I tell you, I've never seen a political event

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<v Speaker 4>in my life this excited, this turned up, and this hyped.

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<v Speaker 3>It is so loud in the main room. I had

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<v Speaker 3>to come out because there was no way I was

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<v Speaker 3>going to hear you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew.

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<v Speaker 1>So first of all, I do want to say you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the excitement of it was great.

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<v Speaker 2>But in that moment, I was like, I can't understand.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, they were like, yeah, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>give it up. Whatever they say, it don't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I couldn't hear. But OK, so that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a son. I mean, I. Oh, my gosh. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it was incredible.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>As I think about it today, Keisha was on this

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<v Speaker 3>morning and did a couple of the national interviews, national hits,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, My hope is that in this lame duck

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<v Speaker 3>session time where Republicans who have control will go back,

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<v Speaker 3>that they don't do anything to injure her before she

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<v Speaker 3>can take office. You know, we've seen this in other places.

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<v Speaker 3>The South has not had to deal with this for

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<v Speaker 3>a very long time. And what I'm talking about is.

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<v Speaker 3>when they elect the opposite party and you've been in

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<v Speaker 3>control for 30, 40, 50, 60 years of a place,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not ready to give up that grip on power.

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<v Speaker 3>And so they go in and during these periods before

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<v Speaker 3>the new government is sworn in, they change laws. They'll

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<v Speaker 3>say the governor can't make any appointments without the confirmation

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<v Speaker 3>of the Senate. They'll say the governor no longer has

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<v Speaker 3>appointment power or clemency power to extend clemency to people

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<v Speaker 3>in the state. All these kinds of things, unless it

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<v Speaker 3>is embedded in the constitution of that state, It is legislative.

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<v Speaker 3>It is statutory, which means the legislatures, the houses in

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<v Speaker 3>the Senate can go and do that. I'm fearful of

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<v Speaker 3>that also in the state of Texas where another clean

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<v Speaker 3>sweep took place. Will this legislature in this period go

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<v Speaker 3>back and say the governor can't appoint presidents to universities?

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<v Speaker 3>The governor can no longer appoint boards of trustees to governments.

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<v Speaker 3>We should be watchful for it. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>dampen the excitement because excitement is well-learned. It's real. But

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<v Speaker 3>we also got to be aware that shenanigans are still,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in the toolbox of these guys and it's

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<v Speaker 3>not beyond them.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to now, we normally have a FYSA, a

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<v Speaker 1>Fourier Situational Awareness. This is going to be our brief

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<v Speaker 1>election recap. We have some deeper dives we want to

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<v Speaker 1>get into with our audience today.

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<v Speaker 2>We know we're taking.

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<v Speaker 1>questions straight from our comments. And we're also, questions straight

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<v Speaker 1>from our comments. We're also taking questions from the audience.

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<v Speaker 2>In the comments section. Yes, but also comments. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Questions, comments, and Lolo's in the house in case y'all

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<v Speaker 3>were worried.

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<v Speaker 2>She's going to scream it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Lolo loves to have lots of jobs while she's

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<v Speaker 1>in law school. More on that next episode. So, biggest

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<v Speaker 1>loss from your perspective last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Angie Nixon.

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<v Speaker 3>And it wasn't a loss for her. It's the biggest loss,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, for us.

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<v Speaker 1>For Floridians with good sense. To that point.

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<v Speaker 3>What about you? Biggest loss?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hold on, because I want to stay in this

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<v Speaker 1>pocket for just a moment because Angie did not take

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<v Speaker 1>it as a loss. We have clip 10 where we

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<v Speaker 1>have part of Angie Nixon's speech.

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<v Speaker 9>We brought together Democrats, Republicans, independents. Hell, a libertarian said

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<v Speaker 9>he voted for me today. And folks who had never

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<v Speaker 9>believed politics had anything to offer them. And because of

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<v Speaker 9>the work that you all did, We all gave people

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<v Speaker 9>something to.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe in again.

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<v Speaker 2>We reminded them.

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<v Speaker 9>We reminded those people that their voices matter. That their

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<v Speaker 9>lives matter. And that they deserve a government that works

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<v Speaker 9>for them.

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<v Speaker 3>Love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew, I have got to tell you, when you watch

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<v Speaker 1>her speech, you feel like, It's a to be continued.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, for sure. I think she made that clear.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know, and I know we're still in

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<v Speaker 1>our hot takes, but, you know, do you see being

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<v Speaker 1>able to build a groundswell, a grassroots movement with Angie?

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<v Speaker 1>There are still so many Floridians that, I mean, hell,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes just like me and you are stuck in 2018

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<v Speaker 1>because you represent Florida. Something that is the future of Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>the now of Florida, 3.9 million people agree with the

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<v Speaker 1>politics of you and Angie, the kind that would stand

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<v Speaker 1>up to the status quo.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you like? What do you see moving forward?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's so I want to point out last night,

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<v Speaker 3>Florida tried the strategy of going middle of the road

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<v Speaker 3>in the governor's race, former Republican. And then as his

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<v Speaker 3>lieutenant governor, the member when she was in Congress, a

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<v Speaker 3>registered Democrat, but who deliberately said in the midst of

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<v Speaker 3>the Republican caucus. and fought hard to be its most

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<v Speaker 3>conservative Democratic member in the Congress during that time. And

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<v Speaker 3>so this is a strategy that's well-worn in Florida, that

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<v Speaker 3>we've got to be very conservative. You've got to stay

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<v Speaker 3>middle of the road. Don't offend anybody. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>accusing this campaign of having done that. That is just

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<v Speaker 3>the pathology of, I think, our state. So they did that.

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<v Speaker 3>And in Angie Nixon, she pulled a different card. She was,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even, it would be a shame to put

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<v Speaker 3>her in the box of left and right. She was

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<v Speaker 3>the voice of working people and disaffected Floridians.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, it was a blueprint.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my perspective that you laid.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody that I talked to that was a registered Florida voter,

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<v Speaker 1>students who were inspired by Angie, knew like there's something

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<v Speaker 1>about her that's similar to Andrew Gillum.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I will tell you this. The reason I pointed

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<v Speaker 3>out the governor's dynamics is to say this. Last night's

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<v Speaker 3>governor's race in a wave election that swept every other

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<v Speaker 3>state to include potentially Mississippi in the south.

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<v Speaker 8>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get to that. Didn't include Florida. Left us out

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<v Speaker 3>in that way. Right. But there was a hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 3>vote difference between Donald's and the governor's race. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>it's been for four out of the five or so

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<v Speaker 3>last cycles. The only time it was closer was when

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<v Speaker 3>we ran as the voice of working class, hardworking, disaffected

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<v Speaker 3>Floridians in twenty eighteen. And so Angie has something she

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<v Speaker 3>can build on there. We've demonstrated you don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>be at the ideological far right or necessarily far left.

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<v Speaker 3>But you do have to be with the people. And

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<v Speaker 3>when you're with the people, they will reward you. So

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<v Speaker 3>she she said last night in her own comments, watch out,

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<v Speaker 3>Ashley Moody. You know, this is a two year term.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be I'll see you in two years. And I

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<v Speaker 3>hope what that means is what we think that it

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<v Speaker 3>means that she may run again. And guess what? It'll

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<v Speaker 3>be a presidential cycle.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And guess what? After last night in Texas, the strongest

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<v Speaker 3>Republican state going all the way blue, there are no

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<v Speaker 3>automatic blue or red states anymore. It's up for grabs.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>My biggest loss is actually the establishment, the Democratic Party establishment.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why I say that is because there

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<v Speaker 1>was an opportunity to show voters that That you were

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<v Speaker 1>going to lean into courage.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the opportunity to do that was to invest in

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<v Speaker 1>the Black South.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Was to invest in the candidates that represent the Black South.

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<v Speaker 1>Was to support the people who stand on the shoulders

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<v Speaker 1>of a Fannie Lou Hamer who said, I'm sick and

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<v Speaker 1>tired of being sick and tired.

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<v Speaker 2>And you, instead of doing that, leaned into courage. People

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<v Speaker 2>who made you feel comfortable. Annie Andrews, who was also successful.

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<v Speaker 11>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But what you say is when we think about a prototype,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all don't fit the mold.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we'll throw a little cash your way. Just

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<v Speaker 1>enough for you to shut up. Just enough for your

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<v Speaker 1>people not to protest us. Yeah. But what you lost

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<v Speaker 1>in the process was someone who was very clearly capable

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<v Speaker 1>of getting to the other side. 3.9 million votes. And

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<v Speaker 1>she wasn't successful. But what could she have done with investment?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Same thing with Scott Colombe. Scott Colombe right now, we're talking.

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<v Speaker 1>About 43 votes at the last time we checked, separating

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<v Speaker 1>him from Cindy Hyde-Smith, who was the person who refused

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<v Speaker 1>to give him the vote he needed to become a

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<v Speaker 1>federal judge under the Biden administration.

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Colombe got a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Mini, measly $ 1 million thrown at him from Chuck Schumer

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<v Speaker 1>the week before the election. And that's why I was

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<v Speaker 1>raising hell about it on our podcast when we had

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<v Speaker 1>him on. Because at some point, It's not their race

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<v Speaker 1>to lose. It's the party's lack of ability to envision

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<v Speaker 1>an America that looks like the rest of the country,

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like the vision we all have for ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that if they're going to govern and

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<v Speaker 1>to lead and to vote like the interests that we're

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<v Speaker 1>telling them are ours, they've got to show that when

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<v Speaker 1>people are campaigning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So that was one of the other things I

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<v Speaker 3>got to say that felt valedictory last night was The

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<v Speaker 3>folks who had been the bedrock vote for the Democratic

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<v Speaker 3>Party finally got just a modicum of what we have

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<v Speaker 3>labored into. Keisha, the entire freaking cabinet of Georgia. What

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<v Speaker 3>we're seeing, and don't give up on Scott Colon. I

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<v Speaker 3>know there are votes still to be had. I actually,

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<v Speaker 3>if I were betting man, and I'm not, But if

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<v Speaker 3>I were a betting man, I would put money on

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that he will be the next senator from

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<v Speaker 3>the state of Mississippi. These numbers are incredible. I think

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<v Speaker 3>there's there's probably 60 or so thousand votes are still remaining.

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<v Speaker 3>And in that, some 20 or so, 15 or so

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<v Speaker 3>thousand that that have to be cured because they were

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<v Speaker 3>challenged ballots. Guess who is forced to vote challenge ballots often?

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<v Speaker 3>usually younger voters and almost exclusively voters of color. These

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<v Speaker 3>are the people who, when they go to vote, their

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<v Speaker 3>names may or may not appear on the rolls as

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<v Speaker 3>they appear on their license, but they're declaring that they

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<v Speaker 3>are registered voters. The registrar who's there says, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>we can't accept you into the normal ballot process. Here's

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<v Speaker 3>a challenge ballot. Vote. And there's an investigation, a provisional,

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<v Speaker 3>I call it challenge ballot, but a provisional ballot. And

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<v Speaker 3>after the election is over, they then go And they

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<v Speaker 3>cure those ballots. Oftentimes those ballots are not cured in

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of states because the differences are so wide.

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<v Speaker 3>Mississippi happens to be a state where there is no

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<v Speaker 3>law on the books for a recount. If this thing

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<v Speaker 3>comes down to 20 some odd votes.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Cindy Hyde-Smith will have to go to a judge and

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<v Speaker 3>make up some reason or rationale for a recount to

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<v Speaker 3>take place. There is no automatic recount in the state.

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<v Speaker 3>So if the numbers stay as they are, he will

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<v Speaker 3>he could succeed at this rate. But my guess is

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<v Speaker 3>as once the votes are further counted, this brother will

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<v Speaker 3>pull away. But but it was valedictory, Angela, because all

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<v Speaker 3>of our hard work, all of our many years, all

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<v Speaker 3>of our many sacrifices feel like they're coming home to

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<v Speaker 3>roost in a good way. Having four, maybe five, black U.S.

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<v Speaker 3>senators in the United States Senate. Four, maybe five, black

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<v Speaker 3>people serving as governor at the same time. It's wild.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still not counting Byron Donalds, but I understand. Your

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<v Speaker 1>biggest win from last night.

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<v Speaker 3>Keisha Lance Bottoms and Georgia's outcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I actually agree with you there, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even have a second one. Keisha Lance Bottoms, I was

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<v Speaker 1>hoping and wishing but was scared to Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Be too.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>We share that.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though I was not on the ticket in Florida, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my brother.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on a ticket in Florida. So, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>was afraid.

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<v Speaker 3>And people in Georgia who were, they were there for her.

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<v Speaker 3>I think what partly helped, I think she helped Asif

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<v Speaker 3>and I think Asif in some ways helped her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. They were the perfect tag team.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though they weren't running for the same office or

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<v Speaker 1>similar enough, but statewide, no less.

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<v Speaker 2>The other one.

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<v Speaker 8>Which.

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<v Speaker 3>OK, you said Georgia's was yours.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm agreeing with you on that.

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<v Speaker 1>The other one that I actually want to pull, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go to clip eight for this really sweet

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina moment right before the race for the Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>United States Senate was called for Dr.

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<v Speaker 2>Annie Andrews.

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<v Speaker 1>This was on our event last night. Clip eight.

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<v Speaker 8>Just so you know, we just got some Greenville in

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<v Speaker 8>and Congressman Greenville.

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<v Speaker 2>Is damn near going blue.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you serious?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Greenville is 50% in. It's 55% in and Annie was

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<v Speaker 8>up 20 points with 55% in in Greenville.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, she's going to be the next senator.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the math I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 8>I just don't believe it just yet. So give me

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<v Speaker 8>some more time to process it.

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<v Speaker 12>It appears that the difference Andy Andrews in South Carolina

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<v Speaker 12>will be beating Darlene Graham, which is historic to say

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<v Speaker 12>the least.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what?

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<v Speaker 3>The whip.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a former United States House majority whip. The resident

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<v Speaker 1>CBC historian has written books about black people in the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate and Congress before Reconstruction. And what I loved about

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<v Speaker 1>that moment, Andrew, is no matter— how much experience you have.

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<v Speaker 3>You can still be shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>You can still.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was like a legitimate surprise for those of

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<v Speaker 1>you at home who don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Clyburn is mostly stoic.

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<v Speaker 2>Never very emotional. And he's like, are you serious?

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<v Speaker 1>You hear me cackling on the set because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what in the world?

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<v Speaker 2>So I love that moment.

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<v Speaker 3>It was shocking for him. And I know how that feels.

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<v Speaker 3>I can pick the place in Florida where if I

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<v Speaker 3>heard that, I would have been you Bay County and

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<v Speaker 3>you're winning 20 points. It's over. Yeah. There's just there's

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<v Speaker 3>no race to be had. It's already done. And that

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<v Speaker 3>clearly that's what happened with them last night. But it

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<v Speaker 3>was a it was awesome moment to be witness to

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<v Speaker 3>is the shock and awe of the senior member from

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<v Speaker 3>his own state majority whip in disbelief about about a candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>I said I want that T-shirt and I mean, are

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<v Speaker 2>you serious?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the other thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That almost, it was also clearly a surprising moment. We

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<v Speaker 1>have biggest surprise. I wanted to tee our biggest surprise

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<v Speaker 1>with Mr. Clyburn's very incredulous, Are You Serious?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'd love to hear.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that your biggest surprise?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I have mine. I'm ready for yours.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you go first. I've been going first.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So my biggest surprise, let's put up graphic two on

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<v Speaker 1>our list here. Because graphic two shows us Gina- I

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<v Speaker 1>should have went first.

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<v Speaker 3>Why?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this your suit?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's my piece. Go ahead. That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>We're up on the court.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Bam.

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<v Speaker 5>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>Texas governor, newly governor, new governor, Gina Hinojosa. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why this surprised me, I'm going to be honest

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<v Speaker 1>with you.

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<v Speaker 2>We spent so much time.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about James Tallarico, who also had a very big

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<v Speaker 1>win last night, that I almost forgot that Gina was winning.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean running, Freddie and Slip.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that I thought was incredible about this race, Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>quite honestly, is Gina Hinojosa won with more than 5.2

0:22:16.510 --> 0:22:18.590
<v Speaker 1>million people voting.

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<v Speaker 2>For her, 52.8% of the vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Abbott, 4.5 million votes. Forty five percent of the vote.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not just that Gina won.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been saying this since the breakfast club this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the mollywop for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the mollywop for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, these people got beat handily, clearly, decisively in

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<v Speaker 1>multiple states.

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<v Speaker 3>Gina was my was going to be my pick of

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<v Speaker 3>of of like it's just God. They're my pick for everything,

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<v Speaker 3>to be honest.

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<v Speaker 6>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>They not only, so Gina Hinojosa, similar to what Angie

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<v Speaker 3>Nixon experienced in Florida, you know, there was not a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of money, except in Florida, there was not a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of money in the governor's race either, to be

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<v Speaker 3>completely frank about it. But not a lot of money put,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to double down on her in this governor's race.

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<v Speaker 3>People were just very animated by the Senate race. And

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<v Speaker 3>for good reason. Tallarico was bringing in serious cash from

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<v Speaker 3>outside the state of Texas as well as inside. No

0:23:16.180 --> 0:23:20.320
<v Speaker 3>one paid attention. And she crept up there being consistent.

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<v Speaker 3>you know, showing up, talking about these data centers, reshaping

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<v Speaker 3>what the map in Texas really looks like. I think

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know Texas well enough to know this, but

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<v Speaker 3>it is a state with the greatest number of Black

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<v Speaker 3>voters in the entire country. It is also the highest

0:23:38.340 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 3>population of Black people in the United States, concentrated in

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<v Speaker 3>the state of Texas. Obviously, there are the Latino, Mexican-American

0:23:46.710 --> 0:23:49.189
<v Speaker 3>shifts that we've seen in that state. Not only did

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<v Speaker 3>they pick up Senate, they picked up the governor's mansion.

0:23:53.180 --> 0:23:56.980
<v Speaker 3>They kicked every single Republican in that state out of

0:23:57.000 --> 0:24:01.490
<v Speaker 3>the cabinet position. The Republicans ran roughshod over the state

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<v Speaker 3>of Texas. They introduced the whole idea of banning books.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember way back when, Texas was the ones taking curriculums out,

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<v Speaker 3>removing black history. Abbott was banning books. Everybody we had

0:24:14.369 --> 0:24:16.350
<v Speaker 3>on our show with a book has been banned in

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<v Speaker 3>the state of Texas. Yeah. They swept the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 3>kicked Republicans completely out. It is now safe to say

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<v Speaker 3>that Texas is a battleground state.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Which blows my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there are a couple of other surprises that I

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<v Speaker 1>want to bring up. And part of the reason for

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<v Speaker 1>it is, you know, some people might have seen it

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<v Speaker 1>as as expected.

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<v Speaker 2>But, Andrew, there used to be a thing called an

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<v Speaker 2>October surprise.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason, this election cycle in the year of

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<v Speaker 1>our Lord, 2026.

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<v Speaker 2>Folks decided to try out a November surprise.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. November 1st.

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<v Speaker 1>And it happened on the Lord's Day in the Lord's year.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to clip one where the person who gave

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<v Speaker 1>us this November surprise tries to justify said November surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gents, Distinguished Grace, Haley Stevens.

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<v Speaker 10>Did you talk to anybody? Did you have a long

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.360
<v Speaker 10>night of the soul? Were you up all night? What

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<v Speaker 10>do you have a dream?

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<v Speaker 3>What happened?

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<v Speaker 11>No, look, I would just say that, you know, I

0:25:36.810 --> 0:25:40.670
<v Speaker 11>had some time to, you know, think just, you know,

0:25:40.730 --> 0:25:44.619
<v Speaker 11>alone with my thoughts. I was writing things out. And look,

0:25:44.910 --> 0:25:49.420
<v Speaker 11>this level of anger. And the things that we are seeing, look,

0:25:49.500 --> 0:25:50.960
<v Speaker 11>we all want Democrats to win.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a really proud Democrat.

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<v Speaker 11>And by the way, Abdul's got every other Democrat with him.

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<v Speaker 11>He just doesn't have me and a few other people

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<v Speaker 11>who love this party. Who love this party.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing with me changed, Anderson.

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<v Speaker 11>Look, this is about Abdul getting angrier and angrier and saying,

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<v Speaker 11>I don't want these people in my campaign.

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<v Speaker 10>What changed other than he had put out that statement

0:26:19.770 --> 0:26:23.030
<v Speaker 10>and disinvited you from that church service? Is that was

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<v Speaker 10>that the angrier and angrier part that you're focusing on?

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<v Speaker 11>Anderson, this is a broader point about what's going on

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<v Speaker 11>in our party.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually not.

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:35.119
<v Speaker 3>It's really just a question of why you change your mind.

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<v Speaker 11>We were just recognizing, look, I haven't cast my vote yet.

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 11>You know, people, my neighbors were asking me.

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<v Speaker 2>So you might change your mind again.

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<v Speaker 11>They feel the same way. Anderson, my mind is made up.

0:26:48.130 --> 0:26:49.390
<v Speaker 1>I'm rock solid.

0:26:49.450 --> 0:26:51.660
<v Speaker 11>I'm an independent woman. I made my decision.

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<v Speaker 10>Back in August, you posted on social media, quote, Mike

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:58.660
<v Speaker 10>Rogers will be another rubber stamp for Donald Trump's dangerous agenda.

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<v Speaker 10>We can't afford to give MAGA another Senate seat in November.

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<v Speaker 10>How do you why is it OK now? Why can

0:27:06.420 --> 0:27:09.500
<v Speaker 10>you afford now to give MAGA another Senate seat in November?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, why is it OK to have the Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 11>and a top nominee You know, ejecting, you know, this

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 11>type of or injecting rather this type of anger and

0:27:22.060 --> 0:27:22.940
<v Speaker 11>lack of kindness.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all.

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<v Speaker 1>Haley, we're done here, boo. We have nothing left for you, honey.

0:27:27.510 --> 0:27:29.530
<v Speaker 1>We have nothing left for you, honey. And here's why

0:27:29.570 --> 0:27:31.730
<v Speaker 1>we don't have anything left for you. Andrew, I don't

0:27:31.770 --> 0:27:33.970
<v Speaker 1>do math. Well, I went to law school, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to go to I want to show you

0:27:36.330 --> 0:27:41.390
<v Speaker 1>how effective her little love. November surprise was, baby, because

0:27:41.470 --> 0:27:43.820
<v Speaker 1>Haley said, I'm going to go out here and try

0:27:43.859 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 1>to throw the freaking race because I'm an independent woman, Anderson.

0:27:48.260 --> 0:27:50.300
<v Speaker 1>And let me tell you how independent she was.

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 2>She's so independent, y'all. You know, there's a.

0:27:52.540 --> 0:27:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Chinese proverb that says if you leading somebody, ain't nobody

0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:57.609
<v Speaker 1>following you.

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<v Speaker 2>You take a damn walk. Haley, you took a walk.

0:28:00.530 --> 0:28:03.870
<v Speaker 2>Keep on walking. We not talking to you anymore. C.C. Penniston.

0:28:04.170 --> 0:28:07.070
<v Speaker 3>Can we put a pin in her? I mean, I

0:28:07.109 --> 0:28:09.130
<v Speaker 3>don't think we ever need to revisit this woman's name again.

0:28:09.170 --> 0:28:10.740
<v Speaker 2>That's fine. I just want to tell you how well

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:10.919
<v Speaker 2>she did.

0:28:10.940 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't know what her life looks like after this.

0:28:13.140 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 2>And we don't care.

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:20.950
<v Speaker 5>Abdul El-Sayed won with 2.4 million votes.

0:28:21.150 --> 0:28:22.710
<v Speaker 3>Show me the money, Haley.

0:28:23.130 --> 0:28:24.530
<v Speaker 2>You ain't shit.

0:28:24.590 --> 0:28:25.629
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, we're on live.

0:28:25.670 --> 0:28:29.550
<v Speaker 5>They can't bleep me. It's too bad. Haley, keep on walking.

0:28:29.869 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 5>Mike Rogers, your candidate. Haley, with your dumb ass. 2.16.

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:40.260
<v Speaker 5>You took a walk. You let nobody. As confused as

0:28:40.300 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 5>you were in that Anderson clip, heffa, we still confused.

0:28:43.740 --> 0:28:48.060
<v Speaker 2>We so confused nobody followed you except for maybe Marvin Winans.

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:48.620
<v Speaker 3>Oh, no.

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:50.340
<v Speaker 2>Who was one of my favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew, I got to ask you about Marvin. One of

0:28:51.980 --> 0:28:54.550
<v Speaker 1>your favorite singers. He was one of my favorite singers.

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:56.980
<v Speaker 1>And he embarrassed the lady during the offering time. He

0:28:57.030 --> 0:28:58.250
<v Speaker 1>said we took it out of context.

0:28:58.450 --> 0:28:58.950
<v Speaker 2>He said he.

0:28:58.930 --> 0:29:01.690
<v Speaker 1>Didn't know when Mike Rogers was coming to church. But

0:29:01.730 --> 0:29:04.530
<v Speaker 1>I want to go to what Bakari said because Bakari

0:29:04.570 --> 0:29:05.670
<v Speaker 1>is not here. And then I want to talk to

0:29:05.690 --> 0:29:08.290
<v Speaker 1>you about the black church because we messing up black church.

0:29:08.350 --> 0:29:10.090
<v Speaker 2>I'm a Christian. I know I'm a cussing Christian.

0:29:10.290 --> 0:29:13.690
<v Speaker 1>But let's go to clip five where Bakari has some

0:29:13.750 --> 0:29:16.890
<v Speaker 1>challenges to pastor wine and strategy with Mike Rogers, who

0:29:17.010 --> 0:29:19.390
<v Speaker 1>only won two point one six million votes.

0:29:19.430 --> 0:29:19.750
<v Speaker 2>Haley.

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<v Speaker 8>Politics is funny sometimes. You've got to laugh to keep

0:29:23.370 --> 0:29:29.130
<v Speaker 8>from crying. You had probably the most Islamophobic campaign ever

0:29:29.190 --> 0:29:35.150
<v Speaker 8>run by Mike Rogers. You had these hurls of anti-Semitism.

0:29:35.370 --> 0:29:36.970
<v Speaker 8>And then they did it all in the backdrop of

0:29:37.030 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 8>a black church. And they had the permission structure from

0:29:41.220 --> 0:29:42.340
<v Speaker 8>Marvin Winans from.

0:29:42.220 --> 0:29:43.380
<v Speaker 3>The pulpit to do so.

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:47.700
<v Speaker 8>And so while we are giving people permission to utilize

0:29:47.740 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 8>our people as props, to allow him that platform and

0:29:50.900 --> 0:29:54.709
<v Speaker 8>that permission to utilize that well, that backdrop, and our

0:29:54.750 --> 0:29:58.530
<v Speaker 8>people three days before an election troubles me just as

0:29:58.590 --> 0:30:02.710
<v Speaker 8>much As a white woman, I cannot control. Like, I

0:30:02.730 --> 0:30:06.170
<v Speaker 8>don't have a level of expectation for Haley Stevens. I

0:30:06.270 --> 0:30:08.550
<v Speaker 8>do have a level of expectation for Marvin Wyman.

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<v Speaker 1>Pastor, the doors of the church are now open and

0:30:12.260 --> 0:30:15.380
<v Speaker 1>you may come to the altar. Sometimes the pastors have

0:30:15.420 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>to be rebuked, too. Before we go to Abdul, I

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>want to ask you, is Marvin Wyman showing us that

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:27.410
<v Speaker 1>the influence of the black church, particularly in our politics,

0:30:27.430 --> 0:30:28.090
<v Speaker 1>is starting to wane?

0:30:30.110 --> 0:30:32.590
<v Speaker 3>Can't make that leap yet. I mean, the black church

0:30:32.630 --> 0:30:37.610
<v Speaker 3>still is the single most, I think, prominent organizing ground

0:30:38.190 --> 0:30:41.620
<v Speaker 3>for our communities, period. I don't care how many degrees

0:30:41.660 --> 0:30:44.860
<v Speaker 3>we get, how wealthy we become. We all come home

0:30:44.940 --> 0:30:45.459
<v Speaker 3>on Sunday.

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.780
<v Speaker 3>And even though people are accessing it in different ways, some,

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:51.460
<v Speaker 3>you know, tune in on the Internet. Yeah. Some others

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:53.870
<v Speaker 3>are in the pulpits, but it is still a trusted

0:30:53.890 --> 0:30:57.750
<v Speaker 3>source for the exchange of information. But also, and this

0:30:57.770 --> 0:31:01.100
<v Speaker 3>has always been true, black people ain't stupid. So I

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:03.700
<v Speaker 3>can sit in the pulpit and I can appreciate the

0:31:03.740 --> 0:31:06.739
<v Speaker 3>word of God from you. And then I realize you

0:31:06.790 --> 0:31:09.570
<v Speaker 3>might be steering out of your depth once you start

0:31:09.630 --> 0:31:12.930
<v Speaker 3>talking to me about who I should vote for for governor.

0:31:13.470 --> 0:31:17.210
<v Speaker 3>Because especially when behind the scenes, this might be about

0:31:17.250 --> 0:31:21.100
<v Speaker 3>something completely different, right? This may be about charter schools.

0:31:21.170 --> 0:31:24.260
<v Speaker 3>This may be about certain benefits you might get, a

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 3>partnership you might create between your church and a governor.

0:31:28.060 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 3>You just never know. People have different politics. And so

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:34.260
<v Speaker 3>black folks have always known that. I always make the

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:37.060
<v Speaker 3>argument I think black people are among the most sophisticated

0:31:37.100 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 3>voters that there are, largely because we have always had

0:31:41.060 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 3>to consider the moves of other people as a harbinger

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:47.540
<v Speaker 3>for whether or not something was going to be possible.

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:50.380
<v Speaker 3>So we never gave away our votes to candidates who

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:53.420
<v Speaker 3>we didn't think could potentially win. We said, does this

0:31:53.460 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 3>person have it? Take Obama, for instance. Black people were

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:59.610
<v Speaker 3>not with him prior to Iowa. They were not there.

0:31:59.690 --> 0:32:03.470
<v Speaker 3>We were looking. We were saying, oh, well, he inspires

0:32:03.510 --> 0:32:06.370
<v Speaker 3>and there's something good about it. But not until we

0:32:06.410 --> 0:32:09.530
<v Speaker 3>could make the math work, we could see, oh, white

0:32:09.570 --> 0:32:13.350
<v Speaker 3>people could see him as president. Now, you saw the

0:32:13.390 --> 0:32:17.130
<v Speaker 3>floodgates open. You saw people reverse endorsements come South Carolina.

0:32:17.150 --> 0:32:19.710
<v Speaker 3>You saw a whole bunch of shift in movement after

0:32:19.750 --> 0:32:22.350
<v Speaker 3>that point in time. And that's part of the sophistication

0:32:22.370 --> 0:32:24.890
<v Speaker 3>that has to happen. What I also love about last

0:32:24.930 --> 0:32:28.060
<v Speaker 3>night is that we're now at a place where Maybe

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 3>we are the deciders ourselves and other people have to

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:34.190
<v Speaker 3>calibrate themselves around where we're going to show up, how

0:32:34.230 --> 0:32:36.709
<v Speaker 3>we're going to vote. We're not a monolith, but we

0:32:36.750 --> 0:32:38.030
<v Speaker 3>certainly are a leading indicator.

0:32:38.870 --> 0:32:44.270
<v Speaker 1>I want to play this clip from Abdul El-Sayed. Abdul El-Sayed,

0:32:44.370 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>from the beginning of this campaign season, showed that he

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 1>was not going to go by the rules of the

0:32:54.680 --> 0:33:00.660
<v Speaker 1>traditional playbook. he campaigned on Medicare for all. He campaigned

0:33:00.700 --> 0:33:03.430
<v Speaker 1>in his own way in a black V-neck. He was like,

0:33:03.590 --> 0:33:06.710
<v Speaker 1>I am going to do this my way. And last night, Andrew,

0:33:06.990 --> 0:33:10.810
<v Speaker 1>his election had not yet been called. And Abdul said, listen,

0:33:10.890 --> 0:33:14.870
<v Speaker 1>I have an acceptance victory speech that y'all are going

0:33:14.890 --> 0:33:15.230
<v Speaker 1>to hear.

0:33:15.290 --> 0:33:16.810
<v Speaker 2>Let us roll part of that speech.

0:33:17.990 --> 0:33:25.090
<v Speaker 6>Habibi, there is this delicious irony in the fact that

0:33:25.470 --> 0:33:28.050
<v Speaker 6>you're constitutionally obligated.

0:33:27.610 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 8>To swear me in in January. So you know what

0:33:37.380 --> 0:33:37.900
<v Speaker 8>that means.

0:33:39.260 --> 0:33:41.420
<v Speaker 2>Wolverine one, Buckeye zero.

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<v Speaker 10>Donald, look, I know you struggled with my name.

0:33:53.900 --> 0:33:54.900
<v Speaker 6>So after J.D.

0:33:54.940 --> 0:33:56.850
<v Speaker 3>Swears me in in January, you can just go on

0:33:56.870 --> 0:33:57.570
<v Speaker 3>and call me Senator.

0:34:00.630 --> 0:34:05.130
<v Speaker 2>Call me Senator, bitch. I love that moment, Andrew.

0:34:05.230 --> 0:34:07.250
<v Speaker 1>And I think that, you know, it really does show

0:34:07.910 --> 0:34:11.089
<v Speaker 1>how much things are changing. There are some things that

0:34:11.150 --> 0:34:14.850
<v Speaker 1>remain the same. We are, you know, definitely filling the

0:34:14.890 --> 0:34:18.190
<v Speaker 1>mode of celebration. But I also have this question for

0:34:18.230 --> 0:34:20.890
<v Speaker 1>you around the headline from last night. When you look

0:34:20.930 --> 0:34:24.830
<v Speaker 1>at the full map, the governors across the country. When

0:34:24.850 --> 0:34:29.029
<v Speaker 1>you look at the U.S. Senate results, 54 seats now

0:34:29.090 --> 0:34:32.739
<v Speaker 1>held by Democrats, 44 seats held by Republicans. When you

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:37.740
<v Speaker 1>look at the United States House, 220, 28, let me start, Jesus,

0:34:37.739 --> 0:34:41.900
<v Speaker 1>228 according to AP, now held by Dems, 139 now

0:34:41.940 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>held by Republicans, governors, 28 Ds, 20 Rs so far.

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:49.500
<v Speaker 1>What is that headline for you? What does that tell you?

0:34:50.980 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 3>So, I kind of wish you'd proffer first what your

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.859
<v Speaker 3>thought is on whether or not there's a broad street

0:34:58.880 --> 0:34:59.100
<v Speaker 3>to this.

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>And when I went first last time, you said you

0:35:00.660 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 1>should have went first.

0:35:01.380 --> 0:35:04.210
<v Speaker 3>Well, I know we disagree on this one. Oh, okay.

0:35:04.550 --> 0:35:05.290
<v Speaker 2>Well, you want me to go?

0:35:05.590 --> 0:35:05.850
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:35:05.910 --> 0:35:07.910
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think you should proffer what you think.

0:35:08.430 --> 0:35:11.589
<v Speaker 3>You know, what's the banner? Do we all celebrate in

0:35:11.610 --> 0:35:14.110
<v Speaker 3>this party or is there a cautionary tale?

0:35:14.250 --> 0:35:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that the headline is Democrats win seats.

0:35:22.670 --> 0:35:24.470
<v Speaker 2>But have to prove courage.

0:35:25.850 --> 0:35:30.690
<v Speaker 1>I think Democrats have to show that they can stand

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:32.620
<v Speaker 1>in the gap when people are in harm's way.

0:35:33.860 --> 0:35:36.980
<v Speaker 2>And I think that the jury is still out on that.

0:35:37.060 --> 0:35:40.940
<v Speaker 1>The reason why I brought up Angie Nixon and Scott

0:35:40.980 --> 0:35:45.150
<v Speaker 1>Colon and the limited investment there is because there is

0:35:45.250 --> 0:35:48.890
<v Speaker 1>something that is still a through line for the party

0:35:49.170 --> 0:35:54.089
<v Speaker 1>that demonstrates courage is not still at the forefront. When

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:57.770
<v Speaker 1>you hear the ways in which progressive incoming members of

0:35:57.810 --> 0:36:02.489
<v Speaker 1>the House have been talked about, you know, even so

0:36:02.530 --> 0:36:07.609
<v Speaker 1>much as some people saying that now Hakeem doesn't have

0:36:07.670 --> 0:36:11.129
<v Speaker 1>to listen to them, you know, as speaker. Like now

0:36:11.150 --> 0:36:13.350
<v Speaker 1>they just have to get in line or fall in line.

0:36:14.070 --> 0:36:18.069
<v Speaker 1>I think that is the type of arrogance that gets

0:36:18.130 --> 0:36:22.430
<v Speaker 1>you with a referendum vote where people say, actually, we

0:36:22.469 --> 0:36:23.210
<v Speaker 1>don't want that.

0:36:23.230 --> 0:36:23.310
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:27.089
<v Speaker 1>What the people are saying they need is relief. When

0:36:27.150 --> 0:36:31.830
<v Speaker 1>I was on with Breakfast Club earlier, Envy prolifically said

0:36:31.870 --> 0:36:33.410
<v Speaker 1>this was a vote to stop the pain.

0:36:34.630 --> 0:36:35.670
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's right.

0:36:35.810 --> 0:36:39.069
<v Speaker 1>People are like, what do I do right now to

0:36:39.130 --> 0:36:42.870
<v Speaker 1>stop the floodgates from opening? Because I can't handle the

0:36:42.910 --> 0:36:45.470
<v Speaker 1>slow drip of pain that I'm receiving now. My SNAP

0:36:45.510 --> 0:36:48.450
<v Speaker 1>benefits being cut, me trying to figure out my parents,

0:36:48.489 --> 0:36:49.950
<v Speaker 1>the elders in my home's health care.

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:50.740
<v Speaker 2>Me trying.

0:36:50.860 --> 0:36:54.629
<v Speaker 1>We know he's talking about that prescription drug cost. My

0:36:54.710 --> 0:36:57.650
<v Speaker 1>kids now they were getting student loans forgiven. Now they

0:36:57.690 --> 0:37:01.210
<v Speaker 1>have a student loan penalty. All of these different things

0:37:01.530 --> 0:37:03.150
<v Speaker 1>that are coming in. And you're like, I don't know

0:37:03.170 --> 0:37:05.850
<v Speaker 1>where to stop the thing. First, my unemployment, the fact

0:37:05.870 --> 0:37:08.009
<v Speaker 1>that I haven't had a job for months.

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 8>Right.

0:37:09.620 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 2>And there's more month at the end of my money.

0:37:11.980 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, that is the part.

0:37:14.500 --> 0:37:17.340
<v Speaker 1>And so I don't think that this was a victory

0:37:17.380 --> 0:37:17.980
<v Speaker 1>through and through.

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:19.980
<v Speaker 2>It was a OK now.

0:37:21.180 --> 0:37:22.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to see what y'all can do.

0:37:23.060 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:37:23.580 --> 0:37:25.859
<v Speaker 1>But I do think it's that I think that this

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>is a probation, not a celebration.

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 13>I hear you.

0:37:29.180 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 3>OK, that's fair. I'll say we don't disagree as strikingly

0:37:33.340 --> 0:37:38.350
<v Speaker 3>as I thought. I do think that, yes, we needed

0:37:38.390 --> 0:37:41.130
<v Speaker 3>to stop the flood for a lot of people. We're underwater.

0:37:41.310 --> 0:37:45.430
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the country's underwater. Our reputation globally is underwater.

0:37:45.850 --> 0:37:48.810
<v Speaker 3>Our policy globally is underwater. Without a doubt, people wanted

0:37:48.850 --> 0:37:52.280
<v Speaker 3>to reduce the harm. But I don't want to discount

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:58.260
<v Speaker 3>the inspiration that came from so many candidates. Scott Cologne,

0:37:58.580 --> 0:38:02.299
<v Speaker 3>that brother was the happiest warrior I've ever seen. I

0:38:02.340 --> 0:38:05.020
<v Speaker 3>know they have history. I know Cindy Hyde-Smith, you know,

0:38:05.060 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 3>withheld the blue slip, you know, on him. Would not

0:38:07.780 --> 0:38:09.839
<v Speaker 3>give the green light for the Senate to approve him

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.460
<v Speaker 3>as a judge. But you would not have known at

0:38:12.540 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 3>any point in that campaign if that brother had a beef.

0:38:15.489 --> 0:38:18.250
<v Speaker 3>with Cindy High Smith over keeping him off the bench.

0:38:18.570 --> 0:38:20.930
<v Speaker 3>If he had it, he covered it with a beautiful smile.

0:38:21.219 --> 0:38:22.399
<v Speaker 2>With a pick another protein.

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 3>With a pick another protein. That was great.

0:38:24.420 --> 0:38:26.819
<v Speaker 2>He was smiling when he was saying that. Cracking up.

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Cracking up.

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:29.259
<v Speaker 3>So I think the attitude that he brought to it

0:38:29.300 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 3>was just really, really powerful, beautiful. Angie Nixon inspired a

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:36.259
<v Speaker 3>whole state of people, nearly four million of them, to

0:38:36.300 --> 0:38:38.470
<v Speaker 3>go out and cast a vote for her. Keisha Lance

0:38:38.510 --> 0:38:42.090
<v Speaker 3>Bottoms and the whole ballot in the state of Georgia.

0:38:42.250 --> 0:38:49.540
<v Speaker 3>That was also inspiring. In Texas, Tallarico, Gina Hinojosa, what

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:54.060
<v Speaker 3>we saw with Roy Cooper even, Ohio got taken back.

0:38:54.460 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 3>In Minnesota, and not just Minnesota, New Mexico, we're about

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:03.410
<v Speaker 3>to have the first Native American U.S. governor in the

0:39:03.489 --> 0:39:07.509
<v Speaker 3>history of this country, a land that they previously occupied

0:39:07.550 --> 0:39:10.430
<v Speaker 3>through and through. And the first time we'll have a governor,

0:39:10.450 --> 0:39:14.190
<v Speaker 3>the former interior secretary. So, There was some inspiration spread

0:39:14.310 --> 0:39:17.860
<v Speaker 3>all throughout this election. What there wasn't a lot of

0:39:17.940 --> 0:39:21.859
<v Speaker 3>fervor and energy for is there was nobody really running

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:26.190
<v Speaker 3>around caping Democratic Party. No, you didn't see a bunch

0:39:26.230 --> 0:39:28.210
<v Speaker 3>of banners. I'm a Democrat and I'm a Democrat and

0:39:28.230 --> 0:39:31.540
<v Speaker 3>I'm a Democrat that comes into it. but nobody was running,

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:36.540
<v Speaker 3>necessarily waving that flag or that banner. That doesn't mean

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 3>they're not proud Democrats that got elected, but people were

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:41.819
<v Speaker 3>assessed at a very individual level.

0:39:42.610 --> 0:39:45.669
<v Speaker 1>I want to give you one thing, because we didn't

0:39:45.730 --> 0:39:47.830
<v Speaker 1>talk about this, and we didn't talk about it last night,

0:39:47.850 --> 0:39:48.830
<v Speaker 1>we haven't talked about it yet.

0:39:49.260 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 2>This one is personal for you.

0:39:51.300 --> 0:39:54.890
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've had an opportunity to celebrate this,

0:39:54.989 --> 0:39:59.410
<v Speaker 1>but Andrew has a good friend that also had a

0:39:59.489 --> 0:40:03.870
<v Speaker 1>pretty handy victory yesterday. Out of the state of Minnesota,

0:40:04.660 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 1>the senator, Peggy Flanagan, who absolutely loves Andrew. They came

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 1>up together as young elected officials.

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.899
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm very proud of Peggy. Again, a woman whose

0:40:13.940 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 3>leadership I've seen through and through completely.

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:17.319
<v Speaker 1>53.7% of the vote.

0:40:17.340 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 3>She's about to be a dynamic U.S. senator.

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:20.860
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:40:21.100 --> 0:40:26.219
<v Speaker 3>I'll bolt the ground down because I can't wait. And

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 3>then add Scott Colum to that. I don't want to

0:40:28.300 --> 0:40:29.240
<v Speaker 3>get ahead of anything.

0:40:29.260 --> 0:40:29.340
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:40:29.700 --> 0:40:30.660
<v Speaker 3>But God willing.

0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:30.980
<v Speaker 13>Yeah.

0:40:31.350 --> 0:40:34.690
<v Speaker 3>You know, you have that. You've got the new senator

0:40:34.730 --> 0:40:35.870
<v Speaker 3>from Illinois.

0:40:35.890 --> 0:40:38.390
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Julianna Stratton.

0:40:38.410 --> 0:40:39.060
<v Speaker 3>Julianna Stratton.

0:40:39.380 --> 0:40:39.940
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:42.839
<v Speaker 3>Who is going to blow the— and then they're joining three

0:40:42.900 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 3>other dynamic ones that are already in there, moving and shaking.

0:40:47.219 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 3>It is going to be something to behold. And my

0:40:52.540 --> 0:40:56.890
<v Speaker 3>real admonishment is that they get there and they act

0:40:56.930 --> 0:40:59.790
<v Speaker 3>with the same kind of courage that all these voters

0:40:59.930 --> 0:41:02.739
<v Speaker 3>acted with when they went out. and they voted. I've

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:06.020
<v Speaker 3>never been under the illusion that politicians are a leading indicator.

0:41:06.260 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 3>They are not. They are a lagging indicator. The people

0:41:10.060 --> 0:41:14.339
<v Speaker 3>are almost always ahead of where the politicians are. They

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:17.020
<v Speaker 3>get there first, and then you end up dragging the

0:41:17.060 --> 0:41:20.280
<v Speaker 3>politician along behind you if they ever make it there.

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:23.989
<v Speaker 3>So I expect that in politics, which tells me if

0:41:24.030 --> 0:41:25.770
<v Speaker 3>we want them to do right, we're going to have

0:41:25.810 --> 0:41:26.489
<v Speaker 3>to lead them there.

0:41:27.150 --> 0:41:30.350
<v Speaker 1>You know, one thing where I kind of want to

0:41:30.410 --> 0:41:36.049
<v Speaker 1>sit to is it's not just about the courage for me.

0:41:36.250 --> 0:41:41.649
<v Speaker 1>It's also about racism as a nonpartisan issue. And where

0:41:41.670 --> 0:41:44.390
<v Speaker 1>I want to go here, Andrew, is in South Carolina,

0:41:44.430 --> 0:41:47.870
<v Speaker 1>we already talked about Mr. Clyburn's great surprise in Annie

0:41:48.010 --> 0:41:53.989
<v Speaker 1>Andrews winning 51% of the vote, more than 100,000 vote

0:41:54.050 --> 0:41:57.790
<v Speaker 1>difference between she and Lindsey Graham's sister, who should not

0:41:57.830 --> 0:42:01.190
<v Speaker 1>have ever been in office or even on the ticket.

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:03.860
<v Speaker 1>But now I want to turn to the governor's race

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>in South Carolina where Jermaine Johnson was running. And those

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 1>results basically flip Jermaine Johnson with 47 percent of the vote,

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:23.529
<v Speaker 1>100000 votes separating him from Alan Wilson. Why am I

0:42:23.650 --> 0:42:28.450
<v Speaker 1>bringing this up? Well, Jermaine Johnson is a black man.

0:42:29.390 --> 0:42:32.780
<v Speaker 1>Our friend Jamie Harrison, friend of this show. is crushed

0:42:32.860 --> 0:42:35.379
<v Speaker 1>by this outcome. Of course, you know, he ran statewide,

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:38.439
<v Speaker 1>raised hella money to run for the Senate and lost

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>by 10 percentage points. This is much closer. But Andrew,

0:42:43.060 --> 0:42:46.399
<v Speaker 1>the sting, you can't remove it when you're like, this

0:42:46.620 --> 0:42:50.859
<v Speaker 1>is somebody, Dr. Jermaine Johnson, who was qualified for the office.

0:42:51.300 --> 0:42:55.370
<v Speaker 1>What made him so different from Annie Andrews? It wasn't policy.

0:42:56.450 --> 0:42:56.890
<v Speaker 2>Who was it?

0:42:56.989 --> 0:42:59.779
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know what the money is. look like

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:02.940
<v Speaker 3>between those two races. And sometimes there is a despaired

0:43:04.340 --> 0:43:08.130
<v Speaker 3>impact there. I have been side by side with a

0:43:08.140 --> 0:43:11.290
<v Speaker 3>candidate who in the same part of the state where

0:43:11.350 --> 0:43:15.529
<v Speaker 3>I lost by 30,000, they had 30,000 more votes than

0:43:15.570 --> 0:43:17.750
<v Speaker 3>I did. And we were the same party. So I

0:43:17.770 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 3>won't disallow those differences. But I will say this, there

0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:28.620
<v Speaker 3>is a model that That is, I think, now unearthing

0:43:28.660 --> 0:43:32.810
<v Speaker 3>itself in the South, in the traditional South, geopolitical South

0:43:33.370 --> 0:43:37.370
<v Speaker 3>that is emerging. And nobody helped it along. Black people

0:43:37.750 --> 0:43:43.549
<v Speaker 3>are birthing this out of whole cloth. Scott did not

0:43:43.590 --> 0:43:47.820
<v Speaker 3>get what he needed. nor what he deserved from a

0:43:47.860 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 3>resourcing standpoint, right? Yet, we are talking about Mississippi today.

0:43:51.780 --> 0:43:52.380
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we are.

0:43:52.390 --> 0:43:54.270
<v Speaker 3>And you know what? Whether he wins or loses, and

0:43:54.290 --> 0:43:56.509
<v Speaker 3>I'm declaring right now I believe he will win, but

0:43:56.550 --> 0:43:58.850
<v Speaker 3>whether he wins or loses, we can never look at

0:43:58.910 --> 0:44:00.650
<v Speaker 3>Mississippi the same way again.

0:44:00.670 --> 0:44:01.010
<v Speaker 4>Ever.

0:44:01.210 --> 0:44:04.450
<v Speaker 3>We can never treat Mississippi the same way again. We

0:44:04.469 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 3>can never treat South Carolina the same way again, or Georgia,

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:11.630
<v Speaker 3>or Texas, right? We can't treat any of those states

0:44:11.650 --> 0:44:13.950
<v Speaker 3>the way that we have perceived them before. And I

0:44:14.010 --> 0:44:16.690
<v Speaker 3>would love to add Alabama to that list. I would

0:44:16.730 --> 0:44:19.690
<v Speaker 3>love to add Louisiana to that list. Hell, I'd love

0:44:19.730 --> 0:44:23.500
<v Speaker 3>to add Florida to that list. But there is a

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 3>new politics that is birthing. We talked about this with

0:44:27.340 --> 0:44:30.060
<v Speaker 3>Terrence when he was on, this idea of a new South.

0:44:30.780 --> 0:44:35.029
<v Speaker 3>I believe a new South has broken through. And it's

0:44:35.130 --> 0:44:36.730
<v Speaker 3>now going to be up to us whether or not

0:44:36.750 --> 0:44:38.890
<v Speaker 3>we're trying to run through the tape on it. Or

0:44:38.910 --> 0:44:41.010
<v Speaker 3>have we given up before we reached the finish line?

0:44:41.050 --> 0:44:42.330
<v Speaker 3>Because we're not there yet.

0:44:43.270 --> 0:44:50.270
<v Speaker 1>I want to go to another Midwesterner who made history

0:44:50.310 --> 0:44:54.420
<v Speaker 1>last night. We have clip 11 with David Crowley, who

0:44:54.620 --> 0:44:57.240
<v Speaker 1>became the first black governor of Wisconsin.

0:44:58.180 --> 0:45:04.700
<v Speaker 13>Tonight, Wisconsin made history. And being your next governor is

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:08.840
<v Speaker 13>humbling in its own right. I don't take any of

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:12.140
<v Speaker 13>this lightly. And I know exactly the shoulders that I

0:45:12.180 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 13>stand on. And I want to say thank you for

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:20.739
<v Speaker 13>placing your faith in me. That's ultimately what voting is.

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 13>A tremendous act of faith. Not faith in one person

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 13>or a party, but faith in the idea that elections matter.

0:45:30.460 --> 0:45:33.240
<v Speaker 3>That the right leadership can make a difference in people's lives.

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:36.339
<v Speaker 13>Because when you're sitting around the kitchen table at night,

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:40.370
<v Speaker 13>Having to decide which of your bills will go past

0:45:40.410 --> 0:45:45.670
<v Speaker 13>due that month. Or when your kid is sick.

0:45:45.710 --> 0:45:48.009
<v Speaker 3>Or a parent needs caretaking.

0:45:48.810 --> 0:45:51.609
<v Speaker 13>But your job doesn't afford the leave for those that

0:45:51.630 --> 0:45:55.379
<v Speaker 13>you love. When a family moves off a farm, not

0:45:55.410 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 13>because they want to leave, but because they don't see

0:45:57.620 --> 0:46:00.980
<v Speaker 13>a future in staying. You don't really care about the

0:46:01.020 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 13>letter that's behind the candidate's name.

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:04.459
<v Speaker 3>You just want to know that those who.

0:46:04.420 --> 0:46:06.290
<v Speaker 2>Empower, that they see you.

0:46:07.930 --> 0:46:08.430
<v Speaker 4>I see you.

0:46:09.850 --> 0:46:12.350
<v Speaker 3>I hear you. I was you.

0:46:13.410 --> 0:46:17.270
<v Speaker 13>And now I'm going to fight for you each and

0:46:17.469 --> 0:46:18.410
<v Speaker 13>every single day.

0:46:20.130 --> 0:46:20.430
<v Speaker 1>Powerful.

0:46:20.590 --> 0:46:21.190
<v Speaker 2>I see you.

0:46:21.210 --> 0:46:21.649
<v Speaker 3>I love that.

0:46:21.850 --> 0:46:24.029
<v Speaker 1>I was you. And now I'm going to fight for

0:46:24.070 --> 0:46:25.180
<v Speaker 1>you every single day.

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:27.419
<v Speaker 3>I mean, how does that make you feel? I mean,

0:46:28.140 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 3>add Crowley to the slate. This is what I meant

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:38.250
<v Speaker 3>by the valedictory part of our sacrifice is that at

0:46:38.450 --> 0:46:38.890
<v Speaker 3>one night.

0:46:40.410 --> 0:46:44.529
<v Speaker 1>But even that, right, like the celebratory nature of it,

0:46:45.210 --> 0:46:47.969
<v Speaker 1>my argument is not that there should be no celebration.

0:46:48.090 --> 0:46:51.450
<v Speaker 1>My argument is just that the celebration should be temporal,

0:46:51.610 --> 0:46:56.350
<v Speaker 1>that it is still a probationary vote. David, I believe,

0:46:56.390 --> 0:47:01.750
<v Speaker 1>was victorious because people wanted to elect courageous fighters. And

0:47:01.790 --> 0:47:04.710
<v Speaker 1>the referendum really is on the status quo. The people

0:47:04.750 --> 0:47:07.109
<v Speaker 1>that think they're there to be seat warmers, the ones

0:47:07.170 --> 0:47:09.390
<v Speaker 1>that think they if they could just, you know, be

0:47:09.650 --> 0:47:12.310
<v Speaker 1>meek enough and mild enough that maybe the Republicans won't

0:47:12.350 --> 0:47:14.480
<v Speaker 1>know that they're different and they can sneak something through.

0:47:14.780 --> 0:47:16.500
<v Speaker 2>I think the days of that are over.

0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 3>They don't know it. Yes, they don't know.

0:47:19.219 --> 0:47:23.700
<v Speaker 1>That's my point. And so what I'm talking about. This referendum,

0:47:23.780 --> 0:47:27.820
<v Speaker 1>this probation, it is for the folks who have already

0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:28.580
<v Speaker 1>been there.

0:47:28.739 --> 0:47:29.120
<v Speaker 3>I get it.

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:33.250
<v Speaker 1>I think that there is a celebration, but also a

0:47:33.310 --> 0:47:37.069
<v Speaker 1>demand of the incoming to be different, to stand up,

0:47:37.350 --> 0:47:39.330
<v Speaker 1>to be bolder, to be more courageous.

0:47:39.750 --> 0:47:41.029
<v Speaker 2>And I think that might be what.

0:47:40.969 --> 0:47:42.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean by probation. You know what? I don't think

0:47:42.260 --> 0:47:43.940
<v Speaker 3>you're wrong about that. And I think we're going to

0:47:43.980 --> 0:47:45.239
<v Speaker 3>have to fight every day.

0:47:45.260 --> 0:47:45.340
<v Speaker 13>Yeah.

0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:49.620
<v Speaker 3>To remind Leader Jeffries and Leader Schumer, should they be

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:53.700
<v Speaker 3>the people who hold those positions in the majority, we

0:47:53.739 --> 0:47:58.770
<v Speaker 3>have to make sure, because there are consultants and other

0:47:59.370 --> 0:48:03.509
<v Speaker 3>folks on the ideological extreme within the Democratic Party on

0:48:03.550 --> 0:48:05.430
<v Speaker 3>the other side who are basically going to say, if

0:48:05.510 --> 0:48:08.350
<v Speaker 3>you do that, you're going to risk this win and

0:48:08.390 --> 0:48:10.549
<v Speaker 3>this win and this win. And what we have to

0:48:10.610 --> 0:48:14.370
<v Speaker 3>tell them is, We are the people who put you there.

0:48:14.390 --> 0:48:17.370
<v Speaker 2>Are you prepared to risk us? Shut the hell up.

0:48:17.390 --> 0:48:18.009
<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you something.

0:48:18.030 --> 0:48:20.509
<v Speaker 3>They should shut the hell up, but unfortunately, they have

0:48:20.550 --> 0:48:21.770
<v Speaker 3>couches in these offices.

0:48:21.810 --> 0:48:23.209
<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you something about these consultants.

0:48:23.230 --> 0:48:24.330
<v Speaker 3>They pull right up whenever they want to.

0:48:24.390 --> 0:48:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I have a PSA for the consultants. This was not

0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:30.600
<v Speaker 1>your election. We had an event last night called the

0:48:30.739 --> 0:48:34.960
<v Speaker 1>People's Election Night. This was the people's election. The people

0:48:35.060 --> 0:48:38.480
<v Speaker 1>showed up despite your lack of investment. The people showed

0:48:38.580 --> 0:48:40.779
<v Speaker 1>up despite the fee you took on top of the

0:48:40.940 --> 0:48:44.359
<v Speaker 1>ad you placed. The people showed up despite the ad

0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:48.459
<v Speaker 1>you ran. The people showed up despite the texts you sent,

0:48:48.780 --> 0:48:52.700
<v Speaker 1>the emails you sent. They showed up in spite of you,

0:48:52.820 --> 0:48:57.190
<v Speaker 1>not because of you. And I'm talking especially... To the

0:48:57.250 --> 0:49:03.010
<v Speaker 1>white consultant class of the Democratic Party, y'all are not

0:49:03.210 --> 0:49:07.780
<v Speaker 1>talking to voters of color. Folks showed up in spite

0:49:07.860 --> 0:49:11.960
<v Speaker 1>of your normal tactics, your lazy, raggedy tactics. Despite the

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:15.509
<v Speaker 1>fact that you won't pay black consultants their worth and

0:49:15.550 --> 0:49:18.870
<v Speaker 1>they could have been told you this. Because we know, AG,

0:49:18.950 --> 0:49:21.940
<v Speaker 1>our lived experience. dictates it and I just am so

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:25.360
<v Speaker 1>frustrated because I already know y'all wrote them damn memos

0:49:25.620 --> 0:49:28.860
<v Speaker 1>this morning claiming credit for your strategies for your expensive

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:30.259
<v Speaker 1>ass strategies that are.

0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:32.500
<v Speaker 3>Terrible yeah so two things one.

0:49:32.380 --> 0:49:35.009
<v Speaker 2>Yeah lucky trying to claim credit.

0:49:35.489 --> 0:49:38.729
<v Speaker 3>I think I think we should celebrate the win yes

0:49:39.350 --> 0:49:42.250
<v Speaker 3>I think that's one thing because we spend a lot

0:49:42.290 --> 0:49:46.450
<v Speaker 3>of time negotiating between how sad we are about to be.

0:49:46.690 --> 0:49:47.450
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true.

0:49:47.489 --> 0:49:51.509
<v Speaker 3>And I think a part of getting better out of

0:49:51.550 --> 0:49:57.029
<v Speaker 3>these people is congratulating us for the wins and then

0:49:57.190 --> 0:50:00.790
<v Speaker 3>circling right back around to say, and we still expect more.

0:50:00.969 --> 0:50:01.290
<v Speaker 9>Yes.

0:50:01.770 --> 0:50:04.870
<v Speaker 3>The reason why we can't treat Mississippi the same anymore

0:50:04.910 --> 0:50:07.109
<v Speaker 3>is because we now see what the opportunity looks like.

0:50:07.130 --> 0:50:07.250
<v Speaker 1>Mm-hmm.

0:50:07.810 --> 0:50:11.720
<v Speaker 3>These folks, the consulting, whatever that is, they may not

0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:15.540
<v Speaker 3>be the ones for the birthing of the Southern strategy.

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:17.799
<v Speaker 3>There are other folks who are out there who now

0:50:17.840 --> 0:50:19.279
<v Speaker 3>need to be brought to the table to do that.

0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:25.339
<v Speaker 3>But the whole ballgame can change. Last night is an

0:50:25.540 --> 0:50:28.840
<v Speaker 3>exhibit A of the fact that the whole game plan

0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:32.400
<v Speaker 3>can change. Will we change with it? Will they change

0:50:32.500 --> 0:50:34.540
<v Speaker 3>with it is my question. And I don't know that

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 3>we have the answer yet.

0:50:35.989 --> 0:50:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I have two that I'm kind of worried about. When

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:46.219
<v Speaker 1>I look at Tennessee, we know that people were said

0:50:46.260 --> 0:50:47.989
<v Speaker 1>last night over and over again, we heard it on

0:50:48.050 --> 0:50:51.590
<v Speaker 1>our coverage too, that the gerrymandering didn't work.

0:50:52.430 --> 0:50:53.190
<v Speaker 2>Andrew, it did.

0:50:53.210 --> 0:50:53.910
<v Speaker 3>It worked significantly well.

0:50:53.930 --> 0:50:57.720
<v Speaker 1>We lost a whole member of Congress out of Louisiana,

0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:01.710
<v Speaker 1>to your earlier point, in Tennessee. Steve Cohen was once

0:51:01.810 --> 0:51:08.780
<v Speaker 1>the member representing Memphis District 9, is what it is now,

0:51:09.980 --> 0:51:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Congressional District 9. Justin Pearson is running in that race.

0:51:13.739 --> 0:51:17.630
<v Speaker 1>It is neck and neck right now, just slightly more

0:51:17.670 --> 0:51:23.610
<v Speaker 1>than 2,000 votes between him and Brent Taylor. And that's disheartening.

0:51:23.650 --> 0:51:25.690
<v Speaker 1>There's another race that I want to call out. It

0:51:25.730 --> 0:51:29.239
<v Speaker 1>wasn't impacted by redistricting. in South Carolina, but one of

0:51:29.260 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 1>my PDP students, alums, Courtney McLean, ran against William Timmons

0:51:35.100 --> 0:51:39.610
<v Speaker 1>in District 4. Courtney McLean went viral earlier on. If

0:51:39.640 --> 0:51:41.029
<v Speaker 1>I would have thought about it, we would have played

0:51:41.050 --> 0:51:47.910
<v Speaker 1>this video. But Courtney McLean has just 20,000 votes separating her,

0:51:47.950 --> 0:51:52.630
<v Speaker 1>less than 20,000 votes, actually closer to 17,000 votes, separating

0:51:52.930 --> 0:51:59.390
<v Speaker 1>her and William Timmons. Young Black woman, Brilliant. And I

0:51:59.430 --> 0:52:01.219
<v Speaker 1>just want to shout her out. Courtney, we're so proud

0:52:01.260 --> 0:52:05.100
<v Speaker 1>of you for stepping up and trying to seize this moment.

0:52:05.180 --> 0:52:06.419
<v Speaker 1>Your time is not over, honey.

0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:07.100
<v Speaker 2>It's just beginning.

0:52:07.180 --> 0:52:10.660
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's real. You know, so there's some downstream effects

0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:12.410
<v Speaker 3>of these competitive races as well.

0:52:12.469 --> 0:52:12.709
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:52:13.170 --> 0:52:18.910
<v Speaker 3>Because when someone like Courtney takes on a challenger in

0:52:18.930 --> 0:52:22.739
<v Speaker 3>a congressional district, Well, within that congressional district, there are

0:52:22.780 --> 0:52:26.530
<v Speaker 3>school board races. There are superintendent races. There are mayor

0:52:26.570 --> 0:52:31.130
<v Speaker 3>and city council races that because of the attention and

0:52:31.170 --> 0:52:34.850
<v Speaker 3>the increased turnout of certain votes in that congressional district,

0:52:35.410 --> 0:52:37.560
<v Speaker 3>they're now going to be able to sweep to carry

0:52:37.620 --> 0:52:41.120
<v Speaker 3>in with them other elected officials who then become the

0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:44.500
<v Speaker 3>training ground for when you need another congressional candidate. They

0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:46.140
<v Speaker 3>become the training ground for when you've got to take

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:49.080
<v Speaker 3>on a Darlene or whomever the Republicans put up the

0:52:49.120 --> 0:52:51.340
<v Speaker 3>next time for a U.S. Senate seat in that state.

0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:54.660
<v Speaker 3>So the down ballot, Georgia is a great example of

0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:58.859
<v Speaker 3>the down ballot impacts. All those, the Attorney General on

0:52:58.930 --> 0:53:02.170
<v Speaker 3>down are women who are right now in the pipeline

0:53:02.210 --> 0:53:05.810
<v Speaker 3>to replace Raphael Warnock whenever he retires from the Senate

0:53:06.469 --> 0:53:10.770
<v Speaker 3>or in Ossoff. So there's so many incredible impacts, but

0:53:10.790 --> 0:53:14.940
<v Speaker 3>your point around the redistricting, no one should confuse that

0:53:16.390 --> 0:53:21.760
<v Speaker 3>The Republicans were not successful at their attempts to create

0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:28.780
<v Speaker 3>more Republican districts. They were incredibly successful at creating these seats.

0:53:29.380 --> 0:53:35.000
<v Speaker 3>They were not, however, electorally successful at securing those seats.

0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:38.520
<v Speaker 3>But those opportunities for Republicans to come back, maybe with

0:53:38.560 --> 0:53:42.020
<v Speaker 3>better candidates, maybe with a different funding stream and a

0:53:42.140 --> 0:53:46.370
<v Speaker 3>different cycle. They'll be set up for success. So let's

0:53:46.410 --> 0:53:49.290
<v Speaker 3>not confuse this. The agenda still is the agenda, which

0:53:49.370 --> 0:53:51.410
<v Speaker 3>is we have got to put teeth back in the

0:53:51.450 --> 0:53:53.879
<v Speaker 3>Voting Rights Act. We have got to make sure that

0:53:53.980 --> 0:53:57.960
<v Speaker 3>a Democratic Senate and House negotiate with this president to

0:53:58.000 --> 0:54:01.200
<v Speaker 3>get some new legislation, codifying legislation through so that we're

0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:04.540
<v Speaker 3>not fighting this battle. But they weren't ready for the

0:54:04.580 --> 0:54:07.000
<v Speaker 3>fight that they bought. No, they were not ready for

0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:07.720
<v Speaker 3>the fight they bought.

0:54:07.880 --> 0:54:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they brought a butter knife to a gunfight. And

0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:13.380
<v Speaker 1>to that point, Ellie actually had a term for it

0:54:13.420 --> 0:54:16.680
<v Speaker 1>last night, Andrew. This is clip seven, dog walked.

0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:17.660
<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah.

0:54:18.460 --> 0:54:20.820
<v Speaker 6>How are you guys doing? So I know the internet's

0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:23.259
<v Speaker 6>not great in this studio out there. I don't know

0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:26.540
<v Speaker 6>if you guys realize we are dog walking these people.

0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:28.460
<v Speaker 6>And I think we should feel a little bit good

0:54:28.480 --> 0:54:30.739
<v Speaker 6>about that because there have been enough bad nights that

0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:32.609
<v Speaker 6>I'm going to feel good about dog walking these people.

0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:34.989
<v Speaker 6>And when I say we, to your point, I don't

0:54:35.050 --> 0:54:39.489
<v Speaker 6>mean Democrats. I mean people who are in favor of democracy.

0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:44.149
<v Speaker 6>are dog walking these people. These fascists, these authoritarians, they're

0:54:44.170 --> 0:54:47.190
<v Speaker 6>getting kicked out. I lived for 13 months in Indiana.

0:54:47.489 --> 0:54:48.890
<v Speaker 6>One of the things that I'm looking at is the

0:54:48.989 --> 0:54:52.210
<v Speaker 6>Indiana Fifth. It is a suburb of Indianapolis. It is

0:54:52.750 --> 0:54:56.270
<v Speaker 6>essentially where the Klan goes for vacation, right? It's kind

0:54:56.290 --> 0:55:00.160
<v Speaker 6>of like a resting place for them. They just elected

0:55:00.560 --> 0:55:05.620
<v Speaker 6>a Democratic guy against a Republican incumbent who is openly gay,

0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:11.719
<v Speaker 6>who defends trans rights, In Kokomo, Indiana. That's a dog walk.

0:55:11.760 --> 0:55:12.780
<v Speaker 6>And that's what's happening.

0:55:13.540 --> 0:55:16.530
<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you about another dog walk. Name starts

0:55:16.550 --> 0:55:20.830
<v Speaker 1>with a D. Comes out of Michigan Congressional District 13.

0:55:20.830 --> 0:55:25.870
<v Speaker 1>Donovan McKinney, Andrew Gillum. He won his congressional seat 76.5%

0:55:25.870 --> 0:55:33.650
<v Speaker 1>of the vote. Uh, Donovan McKinney again in Michigan's congressional

0:55:33.690 --> 0:55:34.910
<v Speaker 1>district 13.

0:55:34.910 --> 0:55:35.589
<v Speaker 2>Congratulations.

0:55:35.690 --> 0:55:37.850
<v Speaker 1>Congratulations to Donovan. I know we wanted to get him

0:55:37.910 --> 0:55:40.969
<v Speaker 1>on the show and didn't have the opportunity to do that,

0:55:41.050 --> 0:55:43.609
<v Speaker 1>but we see you and we just want to make

0:55:43.690 --> 0:55:45.450
<v Speaker 1>sure that we acknowledge that.

0:55:52.180 --> 0:56:00.140
<v Speaker 3>You know, Angela, we talked about, um, the redistricting seats

0:56:01.200 --> 0:56:03.780
<v Speaker 3>in Texas when all of that with the Cal-A decision.

0:56:04.300 --> 0:56:06.600
<v Speaker 3>They were the springboard for a lot of the rewriting

0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:11.910
<v Speaker 3>of these maps afterwards. In the final analysis, y'all, these

0:56:12.010 --> 0:56:14.910
<v Speaker 3>people lost of the five seats they created for themselves,

0:56:15.730 --> 0:56:18.250
<v Speaker 3>lost four of them last night. And the fifth one

0:56:18.750 --> 0:56:22.040
<v Speaker 3>may go away today as the votes continue to come in.

0:56:22.460 --> 0:56:26.450
<v Speaker 3>They will have gained All that pain, trauma, and so

0:56:26.469 --> 0:56:28.669
<v Speaker 3>on and so forth. It wasn't all for naught, y'all,

0:56:28.690 --> 0:56:30.969
<v Speaker 3>because we now still have a Cal-A decision on the books.

0:56:30.989 --> 0:56:31.770
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right.

0:56:31.870 --> 0:56:34.370
<v Speaker 3>That decision still stands. It is not court precedence.

0:56:34.430 --> 0:56:34.730
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:56:35.110 --> 0:56:37.549
<v Speaker 3>So we've got to do work to change it. But

0:56:37.570 --> 0:56:40.330
<v Speaker 3>it just goes with these people meant for evil, for bad.

0:56:40.370 --> 0:56:42.950
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? Just got twisted out by

0:56:42.969 --> 0:56:43.610
<v Speaker 3>the voters.

0:56:43.950 --> 0:56:44.970
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right.

0:56:45.390 --> 0:56:50.190
<v Speaker 1>We're still watching our friend, rocket scientist Chris Jones, um,

0:56:50.739 --> 0:56:53.350
<v Speaker 1>It's still too close to call with 99 percent of

0:56:53.430 --> 0:56:59.009
<v Speaker 1>the votes counted in Arkansas's congressional district to 4000 votes

0:56:59.050 --> 0:57:02.270
<v Speaker 1>separating them. Lola, before we go to our calls to action,

0:57:02.310 --> 0:57:03.930
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to check to see if we have any

0:57:03.989 --> 0:57:07.850
<v Speaker 1>comments or questions from the audience. Do you want to share?

0:57:09.070 --> 0:57:10.589
<v Speaker 2>Like the first item on the agenda.

0:57:10.860 --> 0:57:13.939
<v Speaker 1>So a question, Andrew, is what should the first item

0:57:15.219 --> 0:57:17.080
<v Speaker 1>be on House Bill 1?

0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:18.300
<v Speaker 2>House Bill 1 should be what?

0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:24.280
<v Speaker 3>House Bill 1. So House Bill 1, H.R. 1. Excuse me.

0:57:25.030 --> 0:57:27.220
<v Speaker 3>I know I have a sinus infection, everybody, so just

0:57:27.260 --> 0:57:31.120
<v Speaker 3>forgive me. You threw me off, girl.

0:57:31.780 --> 0:57:34.960
<v Speaker 1>What's the first agenda item for members of Congress when

0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:37.320
<v Speaker 1>they get in Congress? When they swear on January 3rd,

0:57:37.340 --> 0:57:38.760
<v Speaker 1>what do they do on the 4th?

0:57:38.820 --> 0:57:43.060
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so this is... Threw me off, hell. The first

0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:48.900
<v Speaker 3>bill is a messaging statement as much as it is

0:57:50.530 --> 0:57:54.510
<v Speaker 3>actual legislation. And so I'll tell you the contours of

0:57:54.570 --> 0:57:56.770
<v Speaker 3>what is in that are going to have to speak to,

0:57:56.810 --> 0:58:02.750
<v Speaker 3>in my opinion, the economic problems of this country. And

0:58:03.210 --> 0:58:05.410
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a parliamentarian for the House, so I don't

0:58:05.430 --> 0:58:07.810
<v Speaker 3>know how they can cobble this all together. But it

0:58:07.910 --> 0:58:11.710
<v Speaker 3>also must include provisions around corruption as a part of it,

0:58:11.790 --> 0:58:15.810
<v Speaker 3>because the voters were able to connect Corruption to their wallet.

0:58:15.850 --> 0:58:16.290
<v Speaker 8>Yes.

0:58:16.790 --> 0:58:19.470
<v Speaker 3>They made that leap. Most people, you have to separate.

0:58:19.510 --> 0:58:22.090
<v Speaker 3>Corruption is not the same thing as economics. No. I

0:58:22.110 --> 0:58:24.300
<v Speaker 3>know Trump just took a plane. I know his son

0:58:24.320 --> 0:58:26.640
<v Speaker 3>just got his son's wedding paid for. I know they

0:58:26.740 --> 0:58:30.820
<v Speaker 3>are richer, multi-times richer now in public office than they

0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:33.410
<v Speaker 3>were before. And I'm worse off.

0:58:33.960 --> 0:58:36.390
<v Speaker 2>So people knew. They knew that what's her name?

0:58:36.430 --> 0:58:38.169
<v Speaker 1>Young Miami wrote that song about them.

0:58:38.310 --> 0:58:39.750
<v Speaker 2>Where are my scammies?

0:58:39.870 --> 0:58:43.830
<v Speaker 3>Oh, yes. So the scammies were all in the White House.

0:58:44.170 --> 0:58:44.570
<v Speaker 1>All of them.

0:58:44.590 --> 0:58:46.070
<v Speaker 3>OK, all of them were in the White House and

0:58:46.150 --> 0:58:50.230
<v Speaker 3>in the Republican Party. That's exactly right. So so the

0:58:50.310 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 3>voters have made that connection. Please let me encourage the

0:58:53.740 --> 0:58:57.330
<v Speaker 3>elected leaders to keep that connection alive. One to the other,

0:58:57.370 --> 0:58:59.900
<v Speaker 3>because I've already heard this morning people saying, well, you know,

0:58:59.960 --> 0:59:02.140
<v Speaker 3>people don't want a whole bunch of investigations and this

0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:05.100
<v Speaker 3>is that and the third. I'm saying, I'm sorry, y'all

0:59:05.260 --> 0:59:07.390
<v Speaker 3>cited the same polling we did, which was a first

0:59:07.890 --> 0:59:11.200
<v Speaker 3>number one issue on people's agenda. Right. before the economy

0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:16.400
<v Speaker 3>and affordability was corruption. So they've connected corruption and economics.

0:59:16.440 --> 0:59:16.880
<v Speaker 2>That's right.

0:59:17.260 --> 0:59:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Let's keep that connection going and now pass some laws.

0:59:20.240 --> 0:59:24.380
<v Speaker 3>Within H.R. 1, the House Resolution 1, their first bill,

0:59:24.700 --> 0:59:27.240
<v Speaker 3>the messaging of it as well as the content of

0:59:27.340 --> 0:59:31.540
<v Speaker 3>it has to both address the economic issues, tariffs and

0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:33.260
<v Speaker 3>so on and so forth, whatever all that stuff is,

0:59:33.300 --> 0:59:36.710
<v Speaker 3>whatever that package looks like, and couple that with some

0:59:36.790 --> 0:59:37.750
<v Speaker 3>anti-corruption measures.

0:59:37.890 --> 0:59:38.150
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:59:38.630 --> 0:59:39.010
<v Speaker 8>Lolo?

0:59:41.530 --> 0:59:42.630
<v Speaker 3>Well, Black people don't.

0:59:43.090 --> 0:59:45.830
<v Speaker 1>Black people, the question, so for those of you at home,

0:59:45.850 --> 0:59:49.790
<v Speaker 1>because Lolo's supposed to be shouting out the questions, but

0:59:49.810 --> 0:59:51.790
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't have a mic even if she does yell.

0:59:51.830 --> 0:59:56.320
<v Speaker 1>So it's, why do Black people support Byron Donalds. If

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<v Speaker 1>we were on Cite Your Source, my other show, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have a buzzer to fact check you and demand

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<v Speaker 1>that you cite your source.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I'm going to throw it back to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you've talked to him directly.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sad we can't run the clip.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, we'll put it in post, put it in

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<v Speaker 3>the notes or something. But what do you think? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>so the numbers out of the state of Florida still

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<v Speaker 3>show that 92% of black women lined up behind David Jolly.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And they were with Angie Nixon as well. But it

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<v Speaker 3>also showed that possibly 22% of Black men got behind Donald's.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, is this it right here, Andrew? Here's the exit

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<v Speaker 1>polling results. Black men, 22% with Byron Donald's. I am

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<v Speaker 1>so curious to have a focus group that perhaps you lead, Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>to ask them.

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell they were thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think what's scary about this is Byron

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<v Speaker 1>Donalds sounds like us. He's relatable like us. He daps

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<v Speaker 1>us up like us. I don't know that I could

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<v Speaker 1>say the same thing about Tim Scott, right? He is very,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for lack of a better term, black culture presenting.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like he knows how to, you know, to play the role.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the problem is When you can play the part,

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<v Speaker 1>but you actively pursue and champion and advocate for policy

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<v Speaker 1>that is the antithesis to what we need to be

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<v Speaker 1>fully liberated as a people in this country, that's where

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<v Speaker 1>we have a problem. Case in point on Breakfast Club yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>I challenged Byron on if he thought or if as

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<v Speaker 1>governor he would ensure that FAMU was made whole to

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<v Speaker 1>the tune of $ 2 billion, which is consistent with the lawsuit,

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<v Speaker 1>consistent with what USDA under Biden and the Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Education that they're trying to dismantle under Trump, but under

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<v Speaker 1>Biden said that FAMU had been not receiving it, like

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<v Speaker 1>disproportionately not receiving that funding. Byron Donalds went back to

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<v Speaker 1>a study, like we was talking to a white man

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<v Speaker 1>about reparations, baby. He said, Well, I haven't looked at

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<v Speaker 1>the study, which is the same thing he said in

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<v Speaker 1>an interview with Uncle Luke. So he initially told me, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he would do it on Breakfast Club. But he said, well, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know enough. I have to look at the study.

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<v Speaker 2>Ain't none of the damn study. They were robbed. Every

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<v Speaker 2>HBCU in this country was robbed.

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<v Speaker 1>And as a black man in this country that tried

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<v Speaker 1>to go to one but couldn't stay and found your

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<v Speaker 1>ass at Florida State, you should know they were robbed.

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<v Speaker 2>You know these are resource-challenged schools. He was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I fought for a resource senator. Well, motherfucker, that's not enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to fight for access that they deserve.

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<v Speaker 1>Our schools, our businesses, our people, our homes are actively

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<v Speaker 1>doing more with less. As a black man in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that. And you can't tell me it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a systemic problem. And you're a problem if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to stand in the way and guard the system and

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<v Speaker 1>not change it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm mad at y'all 22%. What's true is that

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<v Speaker 3>on this education piece, this ought to be right up

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<v Speaker 3>his alley because these black colleges and universities are not

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<v Speaker 3>arguing for anything special. They're saying we are state funded institutions.

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<v Speaker 3>Fund us like you fund the other state funded institutions.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you are spending this much per pupil at

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<v Speaker 3>Florida State or the University of Florida, you spend the

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<v Speaker 3>same amount for the pupil here at Florida A &amp;

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<v Speaker 3>M University, which is a state sponsored school. So there's

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<v Speaker 3>no reparation. You don't even have to get this man

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<v Speaker 3>to make a leap. to reparations, you can just talk

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<v Speaker 3>about paying me what you owe me. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>not a theoretical. Oh, yeah, this is not a theoretical. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this is what you paid everybody else. And now you

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<v Speaker 3>got to put me at parity. And that's a hard

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<v Speaker 3>challenge for him. I think a couple of things were

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<v Speaker 3>at play here and I haven't done a focus group,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think there were some people who legitimately said

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<v Speaker 3>they wanted to see a black governor of the state

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<v Speaker 3>of Florida. And I think that probably turned it toward

1:03:57.570 --> 1:04:00.500
<v Speaker 3>older people than not. I mean, black men have been

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<v Speaker 3>less in love with the Democratic Party for a very

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<v Speaker 3>long time.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not a black men problem. That's a Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>Party problem.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you, I put the onus of blame on

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<v Speaker 3>the right part of the equation here. I'm not blaming anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Black man for not being in love. I ain't going

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<v Speaker 3>to be in love with anything that don't give me

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<v Speaker 3>anything either.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you've got to pay into me. We have

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<v Speaker 3>to nourish this relationship. You have to treat me like

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<v Speaker 3>more than a side piece.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, Republicans treat you worse than a side piece. They

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<v Speaker 1>treating you like a low-class ho.

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<v Speaker 3>So then on that end, which is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>my third point, which is there are folks, and there

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<v Speaker 3>have always been folks, who find the shorter line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think Byron Donalds is an example of someone

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<v Speaker 3>who found the shorter line.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It is much more competitive to try to run in

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<v Speaker 3>a Democratic seat against other people who look like you,

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<v Speaker 3>who will challenge you and stuff. It's much easier if

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<v Speaker 3>you are a black person who's willing to stand up

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<v Speaker 3>next to Trump, swallow those lies, act like his cheerleader

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<v Speaker 3>and his side piece. You just get to go further.

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<v Speaker 3>Call him Daddy.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a podcast named that, Byron.

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<v Speaker 3>Who was that we brought up last? Herschel. Take that

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<v Speaker 3>for instance.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't need to take Herschel. Leave Herschel where he was.

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<v Speaker 3>You got Byron in Florida who presented much better. I

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<v Speaker 3>just don't know what the real thing looks like for

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<v Speaker 3>him because he can go and he can talk in

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<v Speaker 3>black barbershops about his felony record history, his criminal background.

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<v Speaker 2>With a cigar.

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<v Speaker 3>Background, right? He can do that. He suppresses that information

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<v Speaker 3>when he's talking to the majority population. And then when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to how he votes, he then votes against

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<v Speaker 3>the very thing that he supposedly shares in common.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me tell you to this point, I wish

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<v Speaker 1>we had this damn clip. When he went to the,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they had like a midterm Republican National Convention.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In Dallas.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't it Dallas?

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<v Speaker 1>In Dallas, Byron is standing up there and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you break.

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<v Speaker 3>The law, you go to jail. When you was doing

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<v Speaker 3>whatever you were doing, you got.

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<v Speaker 2>A little slap on the wrist.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes time for you to consider what other

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<v Speaker 1>young people that get caught up with the law for

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<v Speaker 1>possession of marijuana or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>And most of those are individual, not going and scamming people,

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<v Speaker 3>taking their money.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, but I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm just simply saying to me, one does feel worse.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about what he said in the barbershop, not

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<v Speaker 1>aligning with what he said on the stage of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Republican National Commission.

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<v Speaker 3>And not aligning with how he votes.

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<v Speaker 2>Or with his own background. This is what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Or with his own vote. He's a walking contradiction.

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<v Speaker 3>Will the real Byron stand up? There was a song about.

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<v Speaker 1>Him called Come a, Come a, Come a, Come a,

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<v Speaker 1>Come a Chameleon.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I didn't know that was the word that they

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<v Speaker 3>were saying in that song.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, chameleon.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, come on, come on, come on, come on.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, y'all know I'm old now.

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<v Speaker 2>I just turned 47 and that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>You come and go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, come on.

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<v Speaker 3>You come and go. But I said, I thought they

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<v Speaker 3>were come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>We used to have to watch all the videos on MTV.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't have BET yet.

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<v Speaker 3>What was chameleon? I'm not sure why I thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was chameleon. That's what I thought the word was.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds nasty. Let's go to the next question.

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<v Speaker 3>That's an STD.

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<v Speaker 8>It does.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like some sheet. I didn't cuss.

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<v Speaker 1>The eight times I'm in trouble with it.

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<v Speaker 4>Give me your minus.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The comment was that.

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<v Speaker 2>And who was the commenter? Andrew's ready to look.

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<v Speaker 1>He's ready to look. Give you a book.

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<v Speaker 3>No, who was the commenter? I want to say give

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<v Speaker 3>you some credit.

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<v Speaker 2>No, she didn't want the credit. Andrew.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, they don't want the credit.

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<v Speaker 1>The question was, the statement was, Florida just lost.

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<v Speaker 2>And Andrew has a vision.

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<v Speaker 3>It's lost.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I said. Florida is lost. What did I say?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that person is right where the Democratic Party is

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<v Speaker 3>about their belief. of Florida nationally, that it is lost

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<v Speaker 3>to them, that it is no longer accessible to them.

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<v Speaker 3>The truth is, is that we have had a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of migration into the state from conservative areas of this country,

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<v Speaker 3>Ohio being one of them, where their retirees have made

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<v Speaker 3>home in Florida. We also suffer from the problem because

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<v Speaker 3>we have so many transplants that very few people are

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<v Speaker 3>educating their kids in the state of Florida. They're coming

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<v Speaker 3>down when their kids are gone and grown. So they're

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<v Speaker 3>there to enjoy the beaches and the hotels and whatever else, casinos.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're not interested in funding public education. They're not

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<v Speaker 3>interested in funding public libraries. They don't access them. They're

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<v Speaker 3>not interested necessarily in the state's parks and whatever system.

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<v Speaker 3>They're interested in being on vacation until they tap out.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's very hard to get people to invest in

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<v Speaker 3>a state, believe in a state that they don't really

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<v Speaker 3>even believe is their own. They treat it like they're

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<v Speaker 3>on vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>365.

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<v Speaker 3>If I were in Georgia, you waking up every day

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<v Speaker 3>and you are traveling the roads, you are going to work,

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<v Speaker 3>you are, you know, you're living in the place and

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<v Speaker 3>your success depends on the success of all of these

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<v Speaker 3>other very critical, crucial systems. That's not how it is

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<v Speaker 3>when you live in a state that largely attracts people

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<v Speaker 3>there for, as a touristic destination and as a retirement

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<v Speaker 3>place where again, they're not deeply invested. We have to

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<v Speaker 3>start to shift some of that culture. It's not an

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<v Speaker 3>impossible culture to change, but it is a much more

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<v Speaker 3>expensive process of engagement. I've got to be engaged with

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<v Speaker 3>you from the point you enter my state until you

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<v Speaker 3>choose to tap out or you tap out. None of

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<v Speaker 3>your choosing. And we just have not resourced our organizations,

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<v Speaker 3>our party, our community-based organizations, and the way that they

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<v Speaker 3>need to be resourced to be in touch with voters

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<v Speaker 3>around the clock. Republicans have done that. Rick Scott pulled

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<v Speaker 3>out money from his own pocket and built his own

1:09:33.960 --> 1:09:37.400
<v Speaker 3>collection of movement. Jeb Bush, the remnants of what he

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<v Speaker 3>built as governor still are evident in the state of Florida.

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<v Speaker 3>His organizers, his precinct-level organizers, people trace their political involvement

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<v Speaker 3>back to when he was governor. And the transformational job

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<v Speaker 3>he did on empowering the office of governor and stripping

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<v Speaker 3>power from other state officers. It's a long answer, but

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<v Speaker 3>all I have to simply say is we cannot give up.

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<v Speaker 3>When a state can go from electing Ron DeSantis one

1:10:01.250 --> 1:10:07.349
<v Speaker 3>cycle by 17 points and then his first cycle by

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<v Speaker 3>0.03 percent, That is a state that is still contestable,

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<v Speaker 3>but we're still treating it like it is a non-contestable state.

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<v Speaker 3>And even though Jolly came 100,000 whatever votes from Donald's,

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<v Speaker 3>he's still 1% from the office of governor. One percentage point.

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<v Speaker 3>So what does that cost us? What does it take

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<v Speaker 3>to close that gap? If we're willing to make that

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<v Speaker 3>investment inside of an election year, as well as outside

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<v Speaker 3>of an election year, then we can talk. But the

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<v Speaker 3>state's not lost. It's only as lost as we make it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, speaking of lost, we're just about lost of time.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we're going to go to CTAs. Andrew, what's

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<v Speaker 1>your CTA?

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<v Speaker 3>Celebrate the win.

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<v Speaker 2>Call to action.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Celebrate the win.

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<v Speaker 3>Celebrate the win for this moment because we all got PTSD.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody's head is on a swivel for when the next

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<v Speaker 3>shoe is going to drop. And we've got a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of more days of counting. Just take a beat for

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<v Speaker 3>a minute and celebrate the win. And yes, I will

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<v Speaker 3>be on here next week talking about it's time to

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<v Speaker 3>get to work. I will. I'll join Angela in that

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<v Speaker 3>moniker and Riley Cry. But today, we have been through

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<v Speaker 3>a lot in these last two years. We have lost

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<v Speaker 3>a lot. The trauma that is sitting, we're all vibrating today.

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<v Speaker 3>Every day, just waiting for the shoe to drop from

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<v Speaker 3>the White House to the State House to the mayor's

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<v Speaker 3>city hall. So we've absorbed that. We let our voices

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<v Speaker 3>be heard in the election yesterday. Congratulate yourself. Give yourself

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<v Speaker 3>a little one day vacation because we're back to work tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>But we'll do tomorrow's things on tomorrow. Today, we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to do today's things. And I think we should celebrate

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<v Speaker 3>the win.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, last night, the legendary Ed Gordon, as we call him,

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<v Speaker 1>challenged us with the fact that voting was just the

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<v Speaker 1>easiest part. And now the work begins. And so unlike

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<v Speaker 1>my brother, Andrew, I would say that our work begins today.

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<v Speaker 1>The work been building bridges to someone who you ordinarily

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't work with, but understand that it's essential in order

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<v Speaker 1>for us to get to the promised land. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that our work begins today because we have to know

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<v Speaker 1>who holds the levers of power and how we begin

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<v Speaker 1>to influence them. The work begins today because the ways

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<v Speaker 1>in which we used to engage will not work anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that means starting to build your list of

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<v Speaker 1>who your members of Congress will be, where you think

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<v Speaker 1>you can find influence, just like you visit City Hall,

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<v Speaker 1>as Andrew just said, or you go to a school

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<v Speaker 1>board meeting. You got to blow up these phones at

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<v Speaker 1>202-224-3121 in Capitol Hill to reach the Senate. and the House, 202-224-3121.

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<v Speaker 1>There is an agenda they're going to try to ram

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<v Speaker 1>through at the end of this session. That is why

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<v Speaker 1>the work begins today. So I would encourage you all

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<v Speaker 1>to be clear about how Congress is moving. Your president

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<v Speaker 1>is angry. We don't know what he's going to do

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<v Speaker 1>as a result of that anger. And so we, too,

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<v Speaker 1>need to be angry, but we also need to be

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<v Speaker 1>clear and very focused on what our agenda will be

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<v Speaker 1>The State of the People came out with black papers.

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<v Speaker 2>Those black papers are now out.

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<v Speaker 1>I encourage you to use that as your foundation for

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<v Speaker 1>an agenda going forward. I would encourage you to take

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<v Speaker 1>the Black Census created by Black Futures Lab to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you have your own say in our agenda

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever one you choose to build yourself. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, you all know that at

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<v Speaker 1>Native Land Pod, you are always welcome home. And we

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<v Speaker 1>encourage you to come home with your work. We want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from you all what your agenda items are,

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<v Speaker 1>how we can continue to work together. And I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>pleased to be able to do that with my brother,

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Gillum, and our brother.

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<v Speaker 2>In his absence, Bakari Sellers.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank y'all for joining us live. I enjoyed the live moment.

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<v Speaker 2>If for whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Reason you were crazy enough to miss the people's election

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<v Speaker 1>night last night, you're going to want to run this

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<v Speaker 1>thing back.

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<v Speaker 2>It was truly incredible. Well done.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Fat Joe. Shout out to Ed Gordon.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Janae Nelson. All of the incredible work

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<v Speaker 1>that lawyers all over the country were doing to protect

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<v Speaker 1>us at the polls. To Ellie Mistow, who told y'all

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<v Speaker 1>they got dog walked.

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<v Speaker 8>To Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Clyburn, who joined us virtually, former Attorney General Eric Holder,

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<v Speaker 1>all of our partners, ActBlue, SEIU, Working Families Party, NAACP, SoVote,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever else I didn't name, Lola, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is it? Color Change. Nadine Smith, who also joined

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<v Speaker 2>us on set.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. Maria Teresa Kumar, who I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>seen in forever, joined us.

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<v Speaker 2>Adrian Carrasquillo. Kevin.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's now with Kevin. All of our friends and partners

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<v Speaker 1>who came through. We are so grateful for each of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure that you check it out last night. It

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<v Speaker 1>was really, really good. We want to hear from you, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>We normally count down to midterms. That is now over.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome home, y'all. There are 735 days until the 2028 election.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all know that'll be with us before you know it.

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<v Speaker 7>High level combo politics in a way that you can

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<v Speaker 7>taste it. Then digest it. Politics touches you even if

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<v Speaker 3>So get invested.

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