WEBVTT - How Jet Lag Works 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.720 Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:14.640 stuff you should know from dot com. Hey, and welcome 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.280 to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. With me is always 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:20.119 this Charles W. Chuck Bryant, who just flew in to 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:24.079 be here. Yeah, I was. I was on the concorde. 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.680 I was just in Paris. Dude, dude, I've seen a concorde. 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:31.080 Oh yeah, yeah the Air and Space Museum, UM, not 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:35.479 the one in downtown d C. But the one out 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:39.160 by Dullest Airport at the new museum. Oh my god, 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.920 it's awesome. I wanted on board so bad. But it's 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.160 like you're standing right next to and underneath a concorde. 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.560 It's cool. They also have like Discovery Space Shuttle Discovery, 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.400 You're standing right next to that. It's a really neat museum. 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:54.120 Why did the end up grounding the concorde? Was it 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.040 not cost deficient? It was it wasn't and like any 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.040 time there was any kind of problem, like every and 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:05.720 died really oh my god. Yeah. But also the US 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.920 UM outlawed supersonic air travel, so like you couldn't fly 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:15.319 across the interior of the continent UM, which cut out 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.759 like a lot of revenue source. Yeah, so basically it's 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.720 just um and I don't think Air France or British 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:27.240 Airways ever even broke even in all those years. Yeah. 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:29.280 But and then in two thousand and three there was 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:31.840 that most recent crash, that last crash, and after that 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.920 that was it for the Concord. Yeah, I think, um, 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:37.080 if I'm not mistaken, my friend Justin who you know, 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:41.040 his mom, when they had like some final flights of 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:44.759 the Concorde flight of the Concorde, she went on one 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.960 of those as uh like just to do it. I 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:49.600 think I'm gonna be wrong with that, but I seem 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.680 to remember that from my past. You could go from 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:55.080 London to New York in five hours what is usually 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:58.480 like eight? Yeah, eight or nine or something. And do 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.800 you remember when Phil Collins played band Aid. He played 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.080 a show in London and got on the Concord, flew 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.160 to New York and then played a show there like 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:09.640 in the same night. That was pretty cool. Was it 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:13.280 live age? But you know what's the difference. The one 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:17.800 thing I knew was that it wasn't far made Phil Collins. 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.280 Did he play Farmade? I don't think so. That was 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.920 more Willie Willie and Mellencamp and Neil Young and all 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:27.680 those cats. Yeah so, um, Phil Collins flying back and 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:30.359 forth between London and New York to deliver his concert. 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.799 Thank god that happened. I love Phil Collins. I think that. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:42.040 Oh yeah, dude, Um, that wouldn't have been possible had 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:43.560 it not been for something that we like to call 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:47.560 the jet age. Starting around the late fifties, the jet 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:51.920 became the preferred motive travel, which, interestingly, a ticket on 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.120 a jet was actually less than a ticket on like 0:02:55.200 --> 0:03:01.920 a propeller piston engine planet. Yeah, interest isn't that interesting? Um, 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:05.560 But in the late fifties you had mcdonnald, Douglas and 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.200 Boeing really kind of duking it out to create the 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.120 jet to get people very quickly from one part of 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:14.560 the country to another. And it opened up commercial air 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:18.240 travel and all of a sudden, you didn't have to 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.720 be the richest person in the world to get from 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.080 you know, New York to l A, you know, without 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:28.959 having to drive. We're taking forever to get there a train, 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:33.600 prop plane, whatever, and admitted jet lag essentially, Well, there 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.680 you go, thanks for finishing my intro for me. Well, 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:40.400 we've only been around Well, we've been leaping time zones 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.840 for less than a hundred years, so there are some 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:47.880 beliefs that eventually we may evolve out of jet lag, 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.320 but for now, we haven't been doing it long enough. 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.520 It's our bodies to even know what the heck is 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.200 going on, right, And that's pretty much what jet lag is. 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.800 Our body does not know what's going on. There's another 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:04.320 term for jet leg It's called desynchronosis. It's a great 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:08.160 word for it. Yeah, your body has a biological clock, 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:13.240 and it when you travel from one times onto another 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.159 in fairly short order, your body gets out of sync 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.000 with its environment and all of a sudden, all the 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:23.160 cues that uses to regulate itself and all sorts of 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.240 things that your body does, it gets out of sync. 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.640 And what happens when you get out of sync, Well, 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.040 there's a lot of stuff that happens, Chuck, I'm glad 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:36.839 you asked that. Um. You can have cognitive problems, problems 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:41.560 thinking and problem solving and just general mental problems short 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:45.080 term of course and temporary, but you're not thinking quite right. 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.719 Health problems. Um. There is a study in two thousand 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.599 six UM from the University of Virginia that found out 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:57.800 that um lab rats who were given jet lag, who 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.760 were exposed to simulate a jet lag, which is basically 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:04.400 I think a DC to Paris flight once a week 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:09.520 for I guess most of their lives. Probably older ones 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.640 died much more quickly than younger ones. So if you're old, 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.080 which I've noticed that my jet LaGG has gotten worse 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.960 as I've aged. For sure. I didn't used to get 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.320 jet lagged at all. Yeah, I didn't know what the 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.159 big problem was, and now it's like one of the 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:31.720 worst things that can never happen to you. Well yeah, uh, fatigue, alertness, irritability, disorientation, depression, 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.880 gas intestinal illnesses. Yeah, that really mess you up. That 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:40.080 comes from flying to get air gas. It was just 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.359 the change in pressure like creates real gas. It's not 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.719 like methane or anything. It's just like gas bubble in 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.200 your guts. So she's like fart a lot on planes 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:53.279 or after you you can as a result. Sure, and 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.360 you know what you should do. People. By the way, 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:59.080 I'm gonna insert some flying etiquette here in there. Are 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.960 you gonna get up, go the bathroom and fart? Don't 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.920 fart in your seat? Why are you looking at me? Well, 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.120 because you're a cross room me now, I just you 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.560 know me and flying now it's just so annoying to 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:15.000 me because it's like a eighteenth century, you know, bus station. 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:19.039 These days when you were flying to your laughing, everybody's 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:23.719 wearing like pajamas and like teenage girls with their boots. 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:27.599 Oh my gosh, it's stressed appropriately. You don't even have 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.360 to dress up. But it's like, like, I don't want 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:34.000 to see what you look like in your living room, 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:36.200 you know. I know, Well, you take your shoes off, 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.239 which is something I'm There's nothing wrong with that because 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.600 my feet do not smell. If my feet smelled in 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.240 my shoes smell, I wouldn't take them off. I'm very, 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.200 very aware of that kind of thing. But it's funny 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.480 that you bring that up because the other night I 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:53.599 watched Planes, Trains, and Automobiles, which is that movie really 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.160 holds up um and John Candy takes his shoes off 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.440 and then it takes the socks off, and I, well, 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:04.000 I don't take my socks off, right, But I thought 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:05.760 of you, because I know that you think that's a 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:07.520 terrible thing to do. Yeah, I just think you should 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.440 remain fully clothed when you're out in public like that. 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.160 I'm cool with taking the shoes off as long as 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:14.160 the socks stay on and your feet. Don'est thing. But okay, 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:17.680 So so you're on a plane, you're You've got all 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:21.680 these symptoms awaiting you, and if you are um part 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.360 of the percent of Americans, you are going to get 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.560 jet lag. Yeah, I wonder what's going on with a 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.840 six percent. They're probably like younger people who don't know 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:36.200 what they're talking about. Do you think, yes? Interesting? Because 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:39.040 this biological I just I bet you there's something to 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.240 that six percent. Besides, you're five years old, you think 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.440 I doubt if they interviewed a lot of five year 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.440 old about jet lag for the study, well not five, 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:50.280 but I mean like when I was I was like, 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.640 what's everyone's problem with jet Like I don't understand what 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:57.520 they're talking about. So and I specifically remember being interviewed 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.600 to ask if I got it, like, and I remember going, 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.200 but it is a problem. It's unpleasant for some people. 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.960 But if you're in the military or if you're some huge, 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.280 big shot CEO, they worry that, you know, it could 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.600 impair you as a pilot or as a soldier or 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:18.480 as a big thinker and the head of a company 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:22.920 or deal closer. Yeah, you don't want some some jet 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.360 lags CEO lady going in there and not making good 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.280 decisions and making a bad deal. How can you be 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:31.160 a game changer if you don't have your a game on. 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.240 That's got to be the motto of some company. It 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.439 probably I thought, I just made it up. I know 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:45.520 they plugged somebody like price Pister or something. Uh. And 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.199 then what was the other study in two thousand ten 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:50.640 the Universe at cal it'd a study of hamsters and 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:54.079 it said that um on the health tip that the 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.520 the lab rats created new neurons at about half the 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:01.400 rate of of rats who didn't fly. So yeah, that's 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.880 not good. No, your brain is literally not functioning as 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:07.040 well as it should. It's not growing. Nope. Um And 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:11.960 I said about the dying from that study about rats 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.599 dying from being exposed to jet lag, you know the 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.840 older ones. And um, they've also found that in humans 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:24.040 you can have a harder menstruation if you're a lady, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.920 um and uh, you can develop heart disease and diabetes 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:33.760 more readily. Basically, your entire body is just totally thrown 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:39.320 out of whack. You're hungrier at weird times. You're just 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:43.200 out of it. You're you just don't feel good, stressed out. 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.600 You have a lot of stress hormones going. So what's 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:50.680 going on, Chuck? What is jet lag? Jet lag? Well, 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.320 we need to talk about the biological clock that we 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.600 all have. It's basically, uh, the article here describes it 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:00.200 of groupings of interacting molecules and cells throughout the body. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.240 That's a good way to say it. Everything's working together. Uh, 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.600 they tell our glands, Hey, release these hormones at this 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.600 time of day to make you sleepy, melatonin, which we'll 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:11.680 get to a more detail. Maybe adjust your body temperature. 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:13.280 It's a couple of hours where you're gonna wake up, 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.800 so let's make you really hot for some reason. And 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:20.600 the body is all in tuned with each other, all 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:25.520 these things firing like uh, the master time piece. Who 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:29.480 wrote this anyway, this was a pretty good petric. He's 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:31.800 done some good stuff. Yeah, it is a master time piece. 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:35.080 And uh, there are twenty thousand nerve cells called the 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:39.600 super chismatic nucleus we'll called the sc N. It's at 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.600 the front of the brain, right near the optic nerve, 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:45.360 and that is what keeps your circadian rhythm and your 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:49.199 sleep and waking cycles going like clockwork. That's it. That's 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:53.480 the biological clock. The sec it's pretty neat. Um and 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.679 the fact that it's located by the optic nerve is 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.040 kind of telling. Yeah, because one of the ways that 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:01.400 it sets itself, it actually has as it's on a 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:05.600 set cycle twenty four point six five hour cycle, and 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.520 it's since it's off a little bit um, it uses 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.920 cues to reset itself. And one of the big cues 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.920 it uses is natural light. Yeah. Some people think that 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:17.840 it's the light that the brain is super photosensitive and 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.600 that light really is the key to everything there. Well, yeah, 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.920 like the pineal gland apparently, even though it's buried inside 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:27.520 the brain is very light responsive, and the pineal gland 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.960 is one of the things that makes or it makes melatonin, 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.480 which has to do with sleep cycles. Melatonin is the 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:38.440 good sleepy time stuff. So, um, you this whole, this 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.520 whole rhythm, that twenty four point six five hour cycle 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:46.800 is called your circadian rhythm, circadian rhythm, and um, when 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:50.400 it's time to sleep, when it's about the time that 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:52.800 you went to sleep the night before, and it's dark out, 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:58.920 your brain's melatonin production increases, and also you've been building 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:00.559 up in your head all day. This stuff called a 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:04.920 Dina sign, right, and that they recently found has been 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:09.840 linked to um being sleepy. What's called sleep pressure. You know, 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:11.600 when you try to stay up and you're just getting 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:14.160 sleepier and sleeper, it's harder and harder to resist. That 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.280 experience is called sleep pressure. And they think that it's 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:19.760 a Dina sign responsible for that, and it accumulates in 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.400 the brain until finally about the time that you should 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.000 be falling asleep, the sleep pressure is just too much 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:29.400 to overcome and you fall asleep. Yeah, my Uhi Emily's family, 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:33.280 my Ohio family has a lot of sleep pressure. We 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:36.640 call it the yearly gas leak over the holidays. It's 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.520 funny and I'll look up at like seven forty five, 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:43.480 will be watching TV and like everybody's asleep after like 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.880 a big turkey dinner or something like that, Well, after 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:49.480 drinking all day and eating stuff like that, and it's 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.200 all warm and toasty, so I get it, but it's 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.160 still kind of funny. Well, it's called the gas and 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.600 you just made me feel so cozy. In that description, 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.200 it is in a very cozy household. Um, so you 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.520 get the mellet tone and production increased, you got a 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.160 DNA sign built up, and you reach that sleep pressure 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.240 threshold and all this stuff is kind of going on 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:11.760 this general pattern that's a tune to you and your rhythms. 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:13.960 You know, are you a night owl? Do you like 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.200 to get up early? Do you like to sleep in late? 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:20.400 Like this is your own circadian rhythm. Yeah, And if 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.360 you mess any of that up without flying, you're gonna 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.040 be thrown out of sorts. If you're a night owl 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:26.280 and all of a sudden you get a job or 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.640 you gotta get up super early, it's gonna suck for 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.600 a little while until your body adjusts. It is gonna 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:34.200 suck for a little while. Um. And it takes a 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:38.880 while for the body to adjust. But it also we 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.400 we've never really, except for the last sixty years, we've 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.719 never really had the capability of exposing the body to 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:48.640 a sudden shock of just falling out of rhythm like that. 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:53.440 Like I'm flying to Australia right exactly where there's like 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.800 a twelve or thirteen hour difference. Man, I've never I've 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.240 done the europe thing, but I've never experienced yet like 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:00.880 to that degree, I'm imagine that it would take me 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.640 quite a while to adjust. It does, and it sucks 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:07.440 because it takes away a percentage of your vacation almost. 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.400 It definitely does. When when you and I went to 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:17.480 Japan got there, we flew there, we flew um west 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.360 to east, no east to west, because we flew up 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:25.720 in over Canada and down Russia. It was but even still, 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.360 like when we got there, it was like three in 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.400 the morning and we're just like wide away and that 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.520 took a very little while to adjust. But when we 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.080 flew west to east on the way back get killed. 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:40.880 It took two solid weeks being almost like clinically out 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:44.080 of our minds before we got back on our seap. 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.960 That actually, you were pretty wacky. Do you remember There 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.240 was a period where like the first four days when 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.440 we got up, we would we both wake up in 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.040 the middle of the night. I wouldn't even talk. We 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:55.640 just get up and go out to the car and 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.600 drive to crystals and like eat some crystals and go 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.120 back home and go to bed, and like we've never 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.040 done that before and haven't done it since, but like 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:04.680 we just did it for like four nights in a 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.800 row because of jet like, so we're doing stuff like 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.320 that all the time. But yeah, going from west to 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.920 east is the worst, and especially if it's like that 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.640 was the thirteen hour time difference. Yeah, what do they 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:17.960 call that? It's a phase delay going east to west, 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.880 in a phase advance going west to east. And it's 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:22.800 kind of like you can look at it like if 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.520 your if your clock, if you're looking at a clock 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.560 in your bedtime is a set time. In phase delay, 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.840 you're just taking that hour hand and moving it back, 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.200 So you're just putting off your bedtime a little longer. 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:37.120 With phase advance, you're moving that our hand closer suddenly 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:39.720 to your bedtime, even though your body is not ready 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:45.560 to sleep. It's bedtime now. Well, it's just interesting that 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:47.520 the body under you know, I mean, it makes sense. 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.040 I guess what I find interesting is that we've figured 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:53.800 out a way to technologically and artificially subject the body 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:57.000 to like this kind of shock, and that it responds 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.560 the way that it does. You know that it's it 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.360 starts like overproducing this horm when you're under producing that 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.120 horn vine and you go crazy. Well, yeah, and since 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:06.880 you mentioned it, that's one of the things that happened. 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:11.840 It really, It literally disrupts biological functions, releases stress hormones, 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:16.360 drives up your blood pressure since inflammation, stimulating chemical markers 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:20.479 through your arteries. Um, it's gonna mess up your appetite, 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:24.520 like you said, because you're used to eating it regular times, 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.880 and that's why you're eating crystal because it was that 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:28.920 was probably a dinner time in Japan, I guess. Yeah, 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.160 But haven't you ever noticed, like when you get up early, 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.280 like say you have an early flight or something like, 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.040 you can get up at a normal time, say you 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.920 normally get up at eight, Yeah, you're you're maybe you're 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.000 a little hungry or whatever, but you could skip breakfast. 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:41.680 It's not a big deal. But if you're up and 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.560 like moving around and at six or something like that, 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.080 for some reason, you're just starving. Like, hasn't that ever 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.560 happened to you? Yeah, I'm usually not super hungry in 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.400 the morning, regardless of what time I wake up. If 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.240 I'm up really early, I am ravenous for some reason. 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.080 And I'll also find and I've always wonder what this was, 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.680 that I I'm not as hungry if I don't eat anything, 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.280 but if I have like the banana. Then it just 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.200 makes me super hungry, yea. Or have you noticed if 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.639 you have like red meat the night before, whenever you 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.960 get up the next day, you're just ravenous, too real? Yeah, 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:16.000 that happens to me. Interesting. I don't need a lot 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.560 of red meat anymore, but I'll you don't, no, I 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.119 mean just because Emily doesn't so, but you know, I'll 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:22.720 still have my steak every now and then. What are 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.560 you eating these days? I mean, same thing I've always 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:27.159 been eaten since I've been with Emily, which is a 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:31.120 lot of chicken and turkey and fish. What kind of fish? Uh? 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.439 It depends. I'll make like talapia tacos or grilled salmon 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:39.159 or like, uh, what's the more flaky? Like not ma 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:43.960 he but I'll eat my he to the flounder. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:45.600 I'll just go to the farmer's market. What looks what 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.080 looks good and fresh? You know they just took mackerel 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.600 off the Safe to eat or or Fine to Eat 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:55.439 Environmentally list. I didn't know it was on that. Yeah. Tuna, 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.639 of course, love tuna, oh man. But you shouldn't need 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.480 a ton of tuna either, I think the market. Oh 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.440 is that right? Yeah? I eat a lot of raw tuna. 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.879 Yeah that they say that. You know, Jeremy Piven supposedly 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:09.760 had some sort of mercury poisoning for meeting too much sushi, 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.399 which is why, Yeah, he had to bag out of 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:14.879 some movie or show because of it. But then I 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:16.840 think later on they said no, I think he was 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.560 using as an excuse and it wasn't verified that he 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:22.080 had mercury poisoning. That's a lot like the twinkie defense. 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:25.960 It meant, yeah, Jeremy Piven had the tuna defense. But 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.000 that's why they'd say, if you're pregnant, you shouldn't need 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:31.720 a lot of Yeah, yeah, for sure. Man, that was 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:37.120 a sidetrack. I think I'm hungry, is what. Alright? So 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.320 why is it so difficult to overcome Josh? Well, like 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:44.879 we said, um, your bodies, your buddy's circadian rhythm is 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:48.360 not exactly twenty four hours, twenty four point six five hours, 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:52.840 and so every day you're ready for sleep a little 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:54.879 later and a little later and a little later. And 0:18:54.920 --> 0:19:00.280 that's why, at least Patrick Tiger thinks you are. It's 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:04.959 easier to adjust going from east to west, because that 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:06.719 means you're gonna have to stay up later to hit 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.399 your normal bedtime. Anyway, since we're already kind of doing that, 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.239 it's not that big of a deal. And it's not 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:14.359 just him. I think that's proven. Like NASA says the 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:19.760 same thing. Well, NASA and Patrick. Another reason is is 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:24.120 not just light body temperature we said fluctuates. Um, it's 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:27.840 minimum temperature. Oh I'm sorry, I thought it was maximum 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:32.080 three hours before you get up. It's minimum temperature. Yeah, alright. 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:34.920 I thought you like got really hot, like right before 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:39.520 you woke up. You might, but Team in is typically 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.719 three hours before you normally awake. And they found that 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:46.960 if you're if you have to wake up like during 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:50.240 Team in what your body is normally used to being 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:54.840 at Team in, that's when your jet legs the absolute worst. Um. 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.280 And I think it's because that's a cue that your body, 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:00.320 your whole body has. It's like, Okay, we're will in 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:01.960 deep sleep and we're going to be in a while, 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:03.199 and then all of a sudden, it's like I have 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.600 to wake up and go to this meeting. The body's 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:08.720 not it's it's whacked out of its normal process of waking. 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:10.880 I wonder if that's sometimes if I get up super early. 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:12.600 I have a harder time warming up through the day. 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.239 I wonder if that has it makes a difference. I 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:17.320 would bet it does. Like if you're used to waking 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:20.800 up at a certain body temperature, you know it takes 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:22.720 care of that no matter what, every single time, no 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:26.199 matter why you're cold or how cold you are, go 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:29.199 spend fifteen minutes in a sauna and you will be 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:33.040 right as rain. It's just a miracle, would box. Yeah, 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.080 I do that with the hot shower, with the steam. 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.840 Sometimes it doesn't take with me really. Yeah. Sometimes like 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:40.840 I'll still get out of the shower and like I'm 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:44.200 chilled to the core. Still he's in there. Like I 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:46.160 will stay in there for a while and like really 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:47.840 try to heat up, and like most of the time, 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:51.439 like it will get my temperature like up some with 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:54.640 a saun it's like resetting it back to your normal 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:57.200 setting every time you're kind of cold. Though for a man, 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:03.040 like you're all chili, uh, when I'm not, And I 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:05.520 know I'm super hot. You are very hot, but I 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:08.399 think you're also a little cold. But it's pushed together 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:13.960 and we make a very well adjusted human body temperature wise. Um, 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:18.320 So ask anyone what their remedy is for jet lag, 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:21.320 and you'll get a ten different answers. As tender for people, 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:24.720 you get ten different answers. That's what you say. Um, 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.600 ask Bruce Willis what is he gonna say? Make fist 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.919 fits toes? Make fist with your toes. It's always been 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:32.879 one of my favorite things, and I've tried it and 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:34.959 it's silly. Of course it doesn't work, but I just 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:37.920 do it now because it wasn't die Hard Argyle told 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:40.040 him to do that. No, no no, no, that was on 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:43.840 the plane. I thought it was Argyle the driver. It was. 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:45.600 It was on the plane as they were flying in 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:47.560