1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: stuff you should know from dot com. Hey, and welcome 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. With me is always 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: this Charles W. Chuck Bryant, who just flew in to 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: be here. Yeah, I was. I was on the concorde. 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: I was just in Paris. Dude, dude, I've seen a concorde. 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah the Air and Space Museum, UM, not 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: the one in downtown d C. But the one out 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: by Dullest Airport at the new museum. Oh my god, 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: it's awesome. I wanted on board so bad. But it's 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: like you're standing right next to and underneath a concorde. 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: It's cool. They also have like Discovery Space Shuttle Discovery, 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: You're standing right next to that. It's a really neat museum. 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: Why did the end up grounding the concorde? Was it 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: not cost deficient? It was it wasn't and like any 16 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: time there was any kind of problem, like every and 17 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: died really oh my god. Yeah. But also the US 18 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: UM outlawed supersonic air travel, so like you couldn't fly 19 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: across the interior of the continent UM, which cut out 20 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: like a lot of revenue source. Yeah, so basically it's 21 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: just um and I don't think Air France or British 22 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: Airways ever even broke even in all those years. Yeah. 23 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: But and then in two thousand and three there was 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: that most recent crash, that last crash, and after that 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: that was it for the Concord. Yeah, I think, um, 26 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, my friend Justin who you know, 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: his mom, when they had like some final flights of 28 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: the Concorde flight of the Concorde, she went on one 29 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: of those as uh like just to do it. I 30 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna be wrong with that, but I seem 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: to remember that from my past. You could go from 32 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: London to New York in five hours what is usually 33 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: like eight? Yeah, eight or nine or something. And do 34 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: you remember when Phil Collins played band Aid. He played 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: a show in London and got on the Concord, flew 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: to New York and then played a show there like 37 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: in the same night. That was pretty cool. Was it 38 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: live age? But you know what's the difference. The one 39 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: thing I knew was that it wasn't far made Phil Collins. 40 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: Did he play Farmade? I don't think so. That was 41 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: more Willie Willie and Mellencamp and Neil Young and all 42 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: those cats. Yeah so, um, Phil Collins flying back and 43 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: forth between London and New York to deliver his concert. 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: Thank god that happened. I love Phil Collins. I think that. 45 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, Um, that wouldn't have been possible had 46 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: it not been for something that we like to call 47 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: the jet age. Starting around the late fifties, the jet 48 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: became the preferred motive travel, which, interestingly, a ticket on 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: a jet was actually less than a ticket on like 50 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: a propeller piston engine planet. Yeah, interest isn't that interesting? Um, 51 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: But in the late fifties you had mcdonnald, Douglas and 52 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: Boeing really kind of duking it out to create the 53 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: jet to get people very quickly from one part of 54 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: the country to another. And it opened up commercial air 55 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: travel and all of a sudden, you didn't have to 56 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: be the richest person in the world to get from 57 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: you know, New York to l A, you know, without 58 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: having to drive. We're taking forever to get there a train, 59 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: prop plane, whatever, and admitted jet lag essentially, Well, there 60 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: you go, thanks for finishing my intro for me. Well, 61 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: we've only been around Well, we've been leaping time zones 62 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: for less than a hundred years, so there are some 63 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: beliefs that eventually we may evolve out of jet lag, 64 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: but for now, we haven't been doing it long enough. 65 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: It's our bodies to even know what the heck is 66 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: going on, right, And that's pretty much what jet lag is. 67 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: Our body does not know what's going on. There's another 68 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: term for jet leg It's called desynchronosis. It's a great 69 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: word for it. Yeah, your body has a biological clock, 70 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: and it when you travel from one times onto another 71 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: in fairly short order, your body gets out of sync 72 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: with its environment and all of a sudden, all the 73 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: cues that uses to regulate itself and all sorts of 74 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: things that your body does, it gets out of sync. 75 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: And what happens when you get out of sync, Well, 76 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that happens, Chuck, I'm glad 77 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: you asked that. Um. You can have cognitive problems, problems 78 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: thinking and problem solving and just general mental problems short 79 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: term of course and temporary, but you're not thinking quite right. 80 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: Health problems. Um. There is a study in two thousand 81 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: six UM from the University of Virginia that found out 82 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: that um lab rats who were given jet lag, who 83 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: were exposed to simulate a jet lag, which is basically 84 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: I think a DC to Paris flight once a week 85 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: for I guess most of their lives. Probably older ones 86 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: died much more quickly than younger ones. So if you're old, 87 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: which I've noticed that my jet LaGG has gotten worse 88 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: as I've aged. For sure. I didn't used to get 89 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: jet lagged at all. Yeah, I didn't know what the 90 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: big problem was, and now it's like one of the 91 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: worst things that can never happen to you. Well yeah, uh, fatigue, alertness, irritability, disorientation, depression, 92 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: gas intestinal illnesses. Yeah, that really mess you up. That 93 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: comes from flying to get air gas. It was just 94 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: the change in pressure like creates real gas. It's not 95 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: like methane or anything. It's just like gas bubble in 96 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: your guts. So she's like fart a lot on planes 97 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: or after you you can as a result. Sure, and 98 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: you know what you should do. People. By the way, 99 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna insert some flying etiquette here in there. Are 100 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: you gonna get up, go the bathroom and fart? Don't 101 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: fart in your seat? Why are you looking at me? Well, 102 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: because you're a cross room me now, I just you 103 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: know me and flying now it's just so annoying to 104 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: me because it's like a eighteenth century, you know, bus station. 105 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: These days when you were flying to your laughing, everybody's 106 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: wearing like pajamas and like teenage girls with their boots. 107 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's stressed appropriately. You don't even have 108 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: to dress up. But it's like, like, I don't want 109 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: to see what you look like in your living room, 110 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: you know. I know, Well, you take your shoes off, 111 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 1: which is something I'm There's nothing wrong with that because 112 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: my feet do not smell. If my feet smelled in 113 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: my shoes smell, I wouldn't take them off. I'm very, 114 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: very aware of that kind of thing. But it's funny 115 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: that you bring that up because the other night I 116 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: watched Planes, Trains, and Automobiles, which is that movie really 117 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: holds up um and John Candy takes his shoes off 118 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: and then it takes the socks off, and I, well, 119 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: I don't take my socks off, right, But I thought 120 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: of you, because I know that you think that's a 121 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: terrible thing to do. Yeah, I just think you should 122 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: remain fully clothed when you're out in public like that. 123 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm cool with taking the shoes off as long as 124 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: the socks stay on and your feet. Don'est thing. But okay, 125 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: So so you're on a plane, you're You've got all 126 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: these symptoms awaiting you, and if you are um part 127 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: of the percent of Americans, you are going to get 128 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: jet lag. Yeah, I wonder what's going on with a 129 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: six percent. They're probably like younger people who don't know 130 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: what they're talking about. Do you think, yes? Interesting? Because 131 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: this biological I just I bet you there's something to 132 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: that six percent. Besides, you're five years old, you think 133 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: I doubt if they interviewed a lot of five year 134 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: old about jet lag for the study, well not five, 135 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: but I mean like when I was I was like, 136 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: what's everyone's problem with jet Like I don't understand what 137 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: they're talking about. So and I specifically remember being interviewed 138 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: to ask if I got it, like, and I remember going, 139 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: but it is a problem. It's unpleasant for some people. 140 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: But if you're in the military or if you're some huge, 141 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: big shot CEO, they worry that, you know, it could 142 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: impair you as a pilot or as a soldier or 143 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: as a big thinker and the head of a company 144 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: or deal closer. Yeah, you don't want some some jet 145 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: lags CEO lady going in there and not making good 146 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: decisions and making a bad deal. How can you be 147 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: a game changer if you don't have your a game on. 148 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: That's got to be the motto of some company. It 149 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: probably I thought, I just made it up. I know 150 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: they plugged somebody like price Pister or something. Uh. And 151 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: then what was the other study in two thousand ten 152 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: the Universe at cal it'd a study of hamsters and 153 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: it said that um on the health tip that the 154 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: the lab rats created new neurons at about half the 155 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: rate of of rats who didn't fly. So yeah, that's 156 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: not good. No, your brain is literally not functioning as 157 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: well as it should. It's not growing. Nope. Um And 158 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: I said about the dying from that study about rats 159 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,599 Speaker 1: dying from being exposed to jet lag, you know the 160 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: older ones. And um, they've also found that in humans 161 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: you can have a harder menstruation if you're a lady, 162 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: um and uh, you can develop heart disease and diabetes 163 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: more readily. Basically, your entire body is just totally thrown 164 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: out of whack. You're hungrier at weird times. You're just 165 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: out of it. You're you just don't feel good, stressed out. 166 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: You have a lot of stress hormones going. So what's 167 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: going on, Chuck? What is jet lag? Jet lag? Well, 168 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: we need to talk about the biological clock that we 169 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: all have. It's basically, uh, the article here describes it 170 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: of groupings of interacting molecules and cells throughout the body. 171 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: That's a good way to say it. Everything's working together. Uh, 172 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: they tell our glands, Hey, release these hormones at this 173 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: time of day to make you sleepy, melatonin, which we'll 174 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: get to a more detail. Maybe adjust your body temperature. 175 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: It's a couple of hours where you're gonna wake up, 176 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: so let's make you really hot for some reason. And 177 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: the body is all in tuned with each other, all 178 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: these things firing like uh, the master time piece. Who 179 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: wrote this anyway, this was a pretty good petric. He's 180 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: done some good stuff. Yeah, it is a master time piece. 181 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: And uh, there are twenty thousand nerve cells called the 182 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: super chismatic nucleus we'll called the sc N. It's at 183 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: the front of the brain, right near the optic nerve, 184 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: and that is what keeps your circadian rhythm and your 185 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: sleep and waking cycles going like clockwork. That's it. That's 186 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: the biological clock. The sec it's pretty neat. Um and 187 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: the fact that it's located by the optic nerve is 188 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: kind of telling. Yeah, because one of the ways that 189 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: it sets itself, it actually has as it's on a 190 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: set cycle twenty four point six five hour cycle, and 191 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: it's since it's off a little bit um, it uses 192 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: cues to reset itself. And one of the big cues 193 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: it uses is natural light. Yeah. Some people think that 194 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: it's the light that the brain is super photosensitive and 195 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: that light really is the key to everything there. Well, yeah, 196 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: like the pineal gland apparently, even though it's buried inside 197 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: the brain is very light responsive, and the pineal gland 198 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: is one of the things that makes or it makes melatonin, 199 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: which has to do with sleep cycles. Melatonin is the 200 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: good sleepy time stuff. So, um, you this whole, this 201 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: whole rhythm, that twenty four point six five hour cycle 202 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: is called your circadian rhythm, circadian rhythm, and um, when 203 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: it's time to sleep, when it's about the time that 204 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: you went to sleep the night before, and it's dark out, 205 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: your brain's melatonin production increases, and also you've been building 206 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: up in your head all day. This stuff called a 207 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: Dina sign, right, and that they recently found has been 208 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: linked to um being sleepy. What's called sleep pressure. You know, 209 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: when you try to stay up and you're just getting 210 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: sleepier and sleeper, it's harder and harder to resist. That 211 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: experience is called sleep pressure. And they think that it's 212 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: a Dina sign responsible for that, and it accumulates in 213 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: the brain until finally about the time that you should 214 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: be falling asleep, the sleep pressure is just too much 215 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: to overcome and you fall asleep. Yeah, my Uhi Emily's family, 216 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: my Ohio family has a lot of sleep pressure. We 217 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: call it the yearly gas leak over the holidays. It's 218 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: funny and I'll look up at like seven forty five, 219 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: will be watching TV and like everybody's asleep after like 220 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: a big turkey dinner or something like that, Well, after 221 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: drinking all day and eating stuff like that, and it's 222 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: all warm and toasty, so I get it, but it's 223 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: still kind of funny. Well, it's called the gas and 224 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: you just made me feel so cozy. In that description, 225 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: it is in a very cozy household. Um, so you 226 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: get the mellet tone and production increased, you got a 227 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: DNA sign built up, and you reach that sleep pressure 228 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: threshold and all this stuff is kind of going on 229 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: this general pattern that's a tune to you and your rhythms. 230 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: You know, are you a night owl? Do you like 231 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: to get up early? Do you like to sleep in late? 232 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: Like this is your own circadian rhythm. Yeah, And if 233 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: you mess any of that up without flying, you're gonna 234 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: be thrown out of sorts. If you're a night owl 235 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you get a job or 236 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: you gotta get up super early, it's gonna suck for 237 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: a little while until your body adjusts. It is gonna 238 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: suck for a little while. Um. And it takes a 239 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: while for the body to adjust. But it also we 240 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: we've never really, except for the last sixty years, we've 241 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: never really had the capability of exposing the body to 242 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: a sudden shock of just falling out of rhythm like that. 243 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: Like I'm flying to Australia right exactly where there's like 244 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: a twelve or thirteen hour difference. Man, I've never I've 245 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: done the europe thing, but I've never experienced yet like 246 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: to that degree, I'm imagine that it would take me 247 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: quite a while to adjust. It does, and it sucks 248 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: because it takes away a percentage of your vacation almost. 249 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: It definitely does. When when you and I went to 250 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: Japan got there, we flew there, we flew um west 251 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: to east, no east to west, because we flew up 252 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: in over Canada and down Russia. It was but even still, 253 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: like when we got there, it was like three in 254 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: the morning and we're just like wide away and that 255 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: took a very little while to adjust. But when we 256 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: flew west to east on the way back get killed. 257 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: It took two solid weeks being almost like clinically out 258 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: of our minds before we got back on our seap. 259 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: That actually, you were pretty wacky. Do you remember There 260 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: was a period where like the first four days when 261 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: we got up, we would we both wake up in 262 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: the middle of the night. I wouldn't even talk. We 263 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: just get up and go out to the car and 264 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: drive to crystals and like eat some crystals and go 265 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: back home and go to bed, and like we've never 266 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: done that before and haven't done it since, but like 267 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: we just did it for like four nights in a 268 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: row because of jet like, so we're doing stuff like 269 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: that all the time. But yeah, going from west to 270 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: east is the worst, and especially if it's like that 271 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: was the thirteen hour time difference. Yeah, what do they 272 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: call that? It's a phase delay going east to west, 273 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: in a phase advance going west to east. And it's 274 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: kind of like you can look at it like if 275 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: your if your clock, if you're looking at a clock 276 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: in your bedtime is a set time. In phase delay, 277 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: you're just taking that hour hand and moving it back, 278 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: So you're just putting off your bedtime a little longer. 279 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: With phase advance, you're moving that our hand closer suddenly 280 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: to your bedtime, even though your body is not ready 281 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: to sleep. It's bedtime now. Well, it's just interesting that 282 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: the body under you know, I mean, it makes sense. 283 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: I guess what I find interesting is that we've figured 284 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: out a way to technologically and artificially subject the body 285 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: to like this kind of shock, and that it responds 286 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: the way that it does. You know that it's it 287 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: starts like overproducing this horm when you're under producing that 288 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: horn vine and you go crazy. Well, yeah, and since 289 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: you mentioned it, that's one of the things that happened. 290 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: It really, It literally disrupts biological functions, releases stress hormones, 291 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: drives up your blood pressure since inflammation, stimulating chemical markers 292 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,479 Speaker 1: through your arteries. Um, it's gonna mess up your appetite, 293 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: like you said, because you're used to eating it regular times, 294 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: and that's why you're eating crystal because it was that 295 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: was probably a dinner time in Japan, I guess. Yeah, 296 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: But haven't you ever noticed, like when you get up early, 297 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: like say you have an early flight or something like, 298 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: you can get up at a normal time, say you 299 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: normally get up at eight, Yeah, you're you're maybe you're 300 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: a little hungry or whatever, but you could skip breakfast. 301 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: It's not a big deal. But if you're up and 302 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: like moving around and at six or something like that, 303 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: for some reason, you're just starving. Like, hasn't that ever 304 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: happened to you? Yeah, I'm usually not super hungry in 305 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: the morning, regardless of what time I wake up. If 306 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm up really early, I am ravenous for some reason. 307 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: And I'll also find and I've always wonder what this was, 308 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: that I I'm not as hungry if I don't eat anything, 309 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: but if I have like the banana. Then it just 310 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: makes me super hungry, yea. Or have you noticed if 311 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: you have like red meat the night before, whenever you 312 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: get up the next day, you're just ravenous, too real? Yeah, 313 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: that happens to me. Interesting. I don't need a lot 314 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: of red meat anymore, but I'll you don't, no, I 315 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: mean just because Emily doesn't so, but you know, I'll 316 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: still have my steak every now and then. What are 317 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: you eating these days? I mean, same thing I've always 318 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: been eaten since I've been with Emily, which is a 319 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: lot of chicken and turkey and fish. What kind of fish? Uh? 320 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: It depends. I'll make like talapia tacos or grilled salmon 321 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: or like, uh, what's the more flaky? Like not ma 322 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: he but I'll eat my he to the flounder. Yeah, yeah, 323 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: I'll just go to the farmer's market. What looks what 324 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: looks good and fresh? You know they just took mackerel 325 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: off the Safe to eat or or Fine to Eat 326 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: Environmentally list. I didn't know it was on that. Yeah. Tuna, 327 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: of course, love tuna, oh man. But you shouldn't need 328 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: a ton of tuna either, I think the market. Oh 329 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: is that right? Yeah? I eat a lot of raw tuna. 330 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: Yeah that they say that. You know, Jeremy Piven supposedly 331 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: had some sort of mercury poisoning for meeting too much sushi, 332 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: which is why, Yeah, he had to bag out of 333 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: some movie or show because of it. But then I 334 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: think later on they said no, I think he was 335 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: using as an excuse and it wasn't verified that he 336 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: had mercury poisoning. That's a lot like the twinkie defense. 337 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: It meant, yeah, Jeremy Piven had the tuna defense. But 338 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: that's why they'd say, if you're pregnant, you shouldn't need 339 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: a lot of Yeah, yeah, for sure. Man, that was 340 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: a sidetrack. I think I'm hungry, is what. Alright? So 341 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: why is it so difficult to overcome Josh? Well, like 342 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: we said, um, your bodies, your buddy's circadian rhythm is 343 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: not exactly twenty four hours, twenty four point six five hours, 344 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: and so every day you're ready for sleep a little 345 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: later and a little later and a little later. And 346 00:18:54,920 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: that's why, at least Patrick Tiger thinks you are. It's 347 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 1: easier to adjust going from east to west, because that 348 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 1: means you're gonna have to stay up later to hit 349 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: your normal bedtime. Anyway, since we're already kind of doing that, 350 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,239 Speaker 1: it's not that big of a deal. And it's not 351 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: just him. I think that's proven. Like NASA says the 352 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: same thing. Well, NASA and Patrick. Another reason is is 353 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: not just light body temperature we said fluctuates. Um, it's 354 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: minimum temperature. Oh I'm sorry, I thought it was maximum 355 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: three hours before you get up. It's minimum temperature. Yeah, alright. 356 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: I thought you like got really hot, like right before 357 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: you woke up. You might, but Team in is typically 358 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 1: three hours before you normally awake. And they found that 359 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: if you're if you have to wake up like during 360 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: Team in what your body is normally used to being 361 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: at Team in, that's when your jet legs the absolute worst. Um. 362 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: And I think it's because that's a cue that your body, 363 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: your whole body has. It's like, Okay, we're will in 364 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: deep sleep and we're going to be in a while, 365 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it's like I have 366 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: to wake up and go to this meeting. The body's 367 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: not it's it's whacked out of its normal process of waking. 368 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: I wonder if that's sometimes if I get up super early. 369 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: I have a harder time warming up through the day. 370 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 1: I wonder if that has it makes a difference. I 371 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: would bet it does. Like if you're used to waking 372 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: up at a certain body temperature, you know it takes 373 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: care of that no matter what, every single time, no 374 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: matter why you're cold or how cold you are, go 375 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: spend fifteen minutes in a sauna and you will be 376 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: right as rain. It's just a miracle, would box. Yeah, 377 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: I do that with the hot shower, with the steam. 378 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes it doesn't take with me really. Yeah. Sometimes like 379 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: I'll still get out of the shower and like I'm 380 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: chilled to the core. Still he's in there. Like I 381 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: will stay in there for a while and like really 382 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: try to heat up, and like most of the time, 383 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: like it will get my temperature like up some with 384 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: a saun it's like resetting it back to your normal 385 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: setting every time you're kind of cold. Though for a man, 386 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: like you're all chili, uh, when I'm not, And I 387 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: know I'm super hot. You are very hot, but I 388 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: think you're also a little cold. But it's pushed together 389 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: and we make a very well adjusted human body temperature wise. Um, 390 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: So ask anyone what their remedy is for jet lag, 391 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: and you'll get a ten different answers. As tender for people, 392 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: you get ten different answers. That's what you say. Um, 393 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: ask Bruce Willis what is he gonna say? Make fist 394 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: fits toes? Make fist with your toes. It's always been 395 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: one of my favorite things, and I've tried it and 396 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 1: it's silly. Of course it doesn't work, but I just 397 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: do it now because it wasn't die Hard Argyle told 398 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: him to do that. No, no no, no, that was on 399 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: the plane. I thought it was Argyle the driver. It was. 400 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: It was on the plane as they were flying in 401 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: and of course and die Hard. It was just to 402 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: set up to get him without choosing socks on because 403 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: I played a part in the movie. That's a good movie. 404 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: First one. She's name Fencer. Yeah. Um, But like I said, 405 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: some people use herbal remedies. Some people take melatonin, which 406 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: is not f the approved, but you can take melotonin 407 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: athetic melotonin. We should say this isn't this article It 408 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: tells you how much have taken win and we'll tell 409 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: you too, but we should also had a disclaimer. Melotonin 410 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: has interactions with drugs like diabetes drugs dinners um birth 411 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: control pills. You may want to check out what melatonin 412 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: might do with your medication before you take it. You 413 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: definitely should um. Some people just say, you know what, 414 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a red eye and I'm gonna take 415 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: some valume and drink some Scotch and just knock myself 416 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: out for the whole flight, and that'll do the trick 417 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: that works. If you want to die, explain well, there's 418 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: a thirty six year old woman who recently died of 419 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: a stroke because and she was otherwise healthy apparently, but 420 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: she passed out on a seven hour flight or went 421 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: to sleep or whatever. But she slept for seven hours 422 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: on a flight and developed thrombosis, which is a blood 423 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: clot and apparently it went from probably her leg to 424 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: her brain. And again when we went to Japan on 425 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: I think it was Japan Airlines, they make you get up. Yeah, 426 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: They're like, okay, it's like it's it's stretching time. Yeah, 427 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: and they show you how to do it, like sitting 428 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: down at your seat, but they're also like, why don't 429 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: you get up to walk around? So yeah, you kind 430 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: of have to because you can develop a fatal blood 431 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: clot just from sitting on a plane because of the 432 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: change in pressure and just sitting for that long. Yeah, 433 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: you're not supposed to sleep in a sitting position. The 434 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: body is meant to be horizontal and prone. But that's 435 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: just for rich people on fluck. Oh, like up in 436 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: first class now where they have the sleepers, that's they're 437 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: they're so obnoxious. They should put first class in the 438 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: back so you don't have to walk through that scene. 439 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: I know. The funniest is when they have like the 440 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: gauzy curtains separating first class coach and you can it's like, 441 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: I see that you're having a salad. I can see 442 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: your salad. That hotel looks nice. Give me some of 443 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: that salad. So there are all kinds of home remedy 444 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: in little lives, tales of what you can do. But 445 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: if you're an expert, like if you're NASA or if 446 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: you are Chicago's Rush University Medical Center, you have some 447 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: real advice, like gradually adjusting your circadian rhythm actually using 448 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: a lightbox, which is a lot of effort, but I 449 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: bet it works. It does. It also works for seasonal 450 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: effective disorder. Sure. Um, so there's actually I came across 451 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: the paper and all tweeted out and posted on Facebook 452 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: or something blog about it. We'll do something with it. 453 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: But um, because I couldn't get I couldn't get it 454 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: enough in time to really speak about it. But there's 455 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: there's this guy who came up with a paper that's 456 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: basically like a computational method for offsetting jet leg and 457 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: figuring out how to adjust your schedule accordingly. Is it 458 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: like this in the article someone? That's the impression that 459 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: I have, But it's like really detailed, but basically, um, 460 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: Chicago's Rush University Medical Center researchers say, what you want 461 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: to do is if you're going from west to east, 462 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: which is the devil one, Um, you want to start 463 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: going to bed an hour earlier every day. Yeah, and um, 464 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: like several days, maybe like five days before your trip, 465 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: you want to start going to bed an hour earlier. 466 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: And not just an hour earlier across the board, but 467 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: earlier and earlier and earlier. To wear right before your trip, 468 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,239 Speaker 1: you're going to bed about five hours earlier. And if 469 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna take melatonin and you've done all your research, 470 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: you want to take a half a half a milligram 471 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: of melatonin four and a half hours before bedtime and 472 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: then so you want to progressively push that time earlier 473 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: and earlier in the day as you're going to bed 474 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: earlier and earlier at night, and then when you wake up, 475 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 1: blast yourself with the light box. Yeah, well east to west. 476 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: That was west to east, east to west. You want 477 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: to not blast yourself with light. You want to like 478 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: work on glasses in the morning and avoid light in 479 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: the morning. But they say, use a light box at 480 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: your normal bedtime and stay up later, right, which makes sense. 481 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: It sounds pretty torture, it does. There's a New York 482 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: Times article too, called a Battle Plan for jet lag, 483 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: and um, they've they've done a study with Major League 484 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: Baseball actually because they travel a lot, and they said 485 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: that over two year span, teams that went eastward gave 486 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: up an average of one extra run per game. That interesting, 487 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: but um, they say, which is the old I guess 488 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: it's not a wives tale of NASA's confirming it. They 489 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: say it takes about one day per light per time 490 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: zone to to get back into that rhythm in general, 491 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: And they say the same thing, you gotta read to 492 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: regulate your exposure to light. Um, so when you get 493 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: in that hotel room. If you're traveling east, you gotta 494 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: expose yourself to light early in advanced a clock. Uh, 495 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: if you're traveling west, expose yourself to light at dust 496 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: and in the early part of the evening and delay 497 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: that clock. And they'd say, like, you know, close the curtains, 498 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: put a towel over your clock radio, like get it 499 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: as dark as possible. Don't look at any computer screens 500 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: and laptops. They say you shouldn't eat like a big 501 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: meal or a spicy food like the first day you 502 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: get there. Don't like dive right into that vacation because 503 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: that can mess you up as well. Gastro intestinely speaking, 504 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: and uh what else. Well, the CDC says they don't 505 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: have any suggestions other than like eat a balanced diet 506 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: and make sure you get some exercise. It's like, of 507 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: course you're gonna say that, c d C. Do you 508 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: have any other suggestions? And they say yes, wear the 509 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: loose clothing on the flight, avoid alcohol and well and 510 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: afterward they say that first day on vacation you should 511 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: be hit in the alcohol right either because I will 512 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: just mess up your sleep period. And then have you 513 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: heard of this thing called the val ki no v 514 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: a l k E team of scientists in Finland invented 515 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: this thing, and it because their belief is that the 516 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: brain is it's all about photosensitivity, and so they actually 517 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: it's sort of like an iPod, but instead of the 518 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: ear plugs, it emits light through your ear canal directly 519 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: to the brain, and they said it works. They tested 520 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: three fifty subjects over four years, and uh, I found 521 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: that there is definitely brain activity when the little Valki 522 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: is on, and that nine out of ten subjects felt 523 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: reduction and stress, uh seasonal depression and anxiety. And so 524 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: they're using it for winter blues and PMS and jet 525 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: lag and migraines, all sorts of stuff. Fantastic. I don't 526 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: know how much of this so I'm curious if it 527 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: is the price of an iPod or just the size 528 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: of an iPod. It's a good question. Yeah. I try it, 529 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: though I get pretty bad jet lag. That's like when 530 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: we go to do events. Now, I try to fly 531 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: out a day early just to sort of adjust. But 532 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: I can do east coast, west coast. It doesn't hit 533 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: me that bad. Um. Yeah, it's more like international that 534 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: gets me. Yeah, I haven't had it very bad, Like 535 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: when we went to the tc AS. It didn't. I 536 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: didn't seem out of sorts there or back. I get 537 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: a little lot of sorts do Yeah, but not super bad. 538 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm glad, Chuck, Yeah, you got anything else? I got 539 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: nothing else? Okay? That was jet Leg everybody. Yeah, and uh, 540 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: that kind of goes in with our sleeping sweep. We've 541 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: done a bunch of those, like how much sleep do 542 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: you really need? Um? What was the one about the 543 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: sleep aid? Remember the sleep aide where like you could 544 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: stay up for forty eight hours without any sleep. I 545 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: don't remember the title of that one. Wants to do that? 546 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: I love my sleep. That was a good episode though. 547 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: Um yeah, a lot of people wish that you didn't 548 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: have to sleep. I would imagine, not me. Um, I'm 549 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: with you. I like sleep. If you want to hear 550 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: any of those, you can go to our website Stuff 551 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: you Should Know dot com and click on the podcast 552 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: page and to start searching, go to town. You're gonna 553 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: find some cool stuff. And if you want to read 554 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: this article how jet leg works, go to how stuff 555 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: works dot com and then the search bar type jet 556 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: Leg and it will bring up the spotty by an article. Uh, 557 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: and I said search bar. So it's time for listening 558 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: to me. Josh I called this a very sweet email 559 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 1: from Wendy, and I will be reading some of it 560 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: and summarizing some of it because it's super long. She 561 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: starts out, congratulations on the launch of your TV show. 562 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. I've been reading online chatter and I hope 563 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: it's going comfortably for you behind the scenes, because you 564 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: hear these reactions. It's a bummer when those weird people 565 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: on the block who mow the lawn naked our pride 566 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: themselves on not being tricked into attending college. I think 567 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: that they are qualified critics. Hopefully you're all too experienced 568 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: by now to do more than laugh at the losers 569 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: and just keep doing what you enjoyed. So that's all. 570 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: That was very nice, and it came in a good 571 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: time because people could be mean. Man, people have a 572 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: kind of mean. But hey, we have a pretty picks again, 573 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: We've been doing this for years. We got the armor 574 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: on um. So anyway, that was very nice Wendy, and 575 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: then she just wants she's been meaning to write in 576 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: for several years. Thank us. She started listening after she 577 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: moved from Seattle to Burbank in two thousand eight, and 578 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: it was a pretty depressing time for her. She said, 579 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: to stay at home, mom, and we really got her 580 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: through that time. A year later she moved to Utah. 581 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: She kept downloading because Chuck was on board. It's nice 582 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: and it was like having my brothers around for an 583 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: hour or so every day. It was really nice. She said. 584 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: It was clear by that point, even if we didn't 585 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: know each other, that you guys will probably be friends 586 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: of mine if we knew each other, um, and you 587 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: would not only appreciate the wild cultural shift from Hollywood 588 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City, but also be more fascinated than 589 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: turned off by my strange family connections. And she didn't 590 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: explain with them. Man. Then she moved from Youthawt to 591 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: Massachusetts and she was eight months pregnant, and we really 592 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: helped her through that, and so she was super appreciative 593 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: of that. And then she says, this a long time ago. 594 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: You had a many side conversation about what romancement and 595 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: seemed to conclude that it was guys who had a 596 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: manly friend crush on another guy that they knew, and 597 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: they'd really enjoy hanging out with I don't think we 598 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: haven't been at that. No, that's commonly what the romance 599 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: is known as. I may be a woman, but I 600 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: do have a major friend crush on the guys you 601 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: filled in for the awesome friends and family that I've missed, 602 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: um intelligently shooting the breeze for the last while, almost 603 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: five years now. Yeah, so she's moving around and we've 604 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: we've helped her out. Its substituting for her. Smart friends, 605 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: keep podcasting, take care of yourselves. You know that in 606 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: the zombie apocalypse, I definitely have your backs. By the 607 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: way of my weapon of choice would be an iron 608 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: age Scandinavian sacks in one hand, a long handled axe 609 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: in the other, and a shotgun I could carry across 610 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: my back. So, Wendy, you are well armed from my lady, 611 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: and uh we'll be right by her sides. Thanks for that, Wendy. Yeah, um, 612 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: we're glad we could help you through the last five years. 613 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: Can you believe it's been like years? Pretty soon I 614 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: saw a tweet from a listener that said that they 615 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: were off to college and they started listening in eighth grade. 616 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: Well and Sarah are amazing eleven year old fan and 617 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: not fifteen. Oh man, that's nuts, and she's she's gonna 618 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: be driving soon. She is. I want to fix up 619 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: with my nephew. It's too bad they don't live in 620 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: the same state. Well, hey, we're living at uh. 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