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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, Yes, Thursday, January. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: And now when questioned about the overtime rules, he said, dude,

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Speaker 1: I'm salary. J pce Rick. Yeah, that's a new meeting

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Speaker 1: for free football and welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: from the home office today. J P. Shadrick with you.

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Speaker 1: It's our first show back since the Monday after the

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Speaker 1: regular season, and really nothing's changed since then. There's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of tweeting and reporting going on, but the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars are still without a head coach at this moment.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that coming up. Busy show, of course,

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Speaker 1: on a day like today, the coaching carousels spinning. A

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Speaker 1: couple of teams around the league have secured their new

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Speaker 1: Jaguar candidates that were hired, the Bears and the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: Will get to that coming up. The Jaguars search continues.

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Speaker 1: There's not a lot of there's a lot of reporting

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Speaker 1: There aren't many. We'll say that. CBS Sports senior writer

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Speaker 1: Pete Frisco. We'll hear from Pete get his thoughts on

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Speaker 1: what's going on. I'm sure he has a few. Jaguars

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Speaker 1: dot Com senior writer John Ozier joins us to give

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Speaker 1: us his perspective on what has happened or what is

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Speaker 1: Network analyst Bucky Brooks. He's out in Los Angeles, the

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Speaker 1: Collegiate Bowl coming up. He'll have a Shrine Bowl coverage

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Speaker 1: coming up next week as well. He'll be very busy,

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Speaker 1: Since we last convened, that was the Monday after the

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Speaker 1: regular season. That was on Jaguars Happy Hour Prisco and Busselli.

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Speaker 1: We recapped the final win of the season, the the

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Speaker 1: that point. Since then, according to all the reports that

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Speaker 1: gone through the interview process. They have gone through it

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Speaker 1: twice with a few different candidates. Now and what a

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Speaker 1: few days it's been, of course on social media, some

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Speaker 1: then that changed in an overnight period too. Maybe need

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Speaker 1: Hacketts coming for a second interview. Then the Broncos took

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. He had been in the process with

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Speaker 1: If you follow the tweets and the reports today, it's

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Speaker 1: out of Arizona that Left, which would be the coach,

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Speaker 1: That's a report as of earlier today. Vic Fangio's name

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Speaker 1: requested to talk with Left, which so who who really

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Speaker 1: to complete for Byron Leftwich. So we'll see the conversations

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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour on Thursday afternoon, our first show since the day

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Speaker 1: everybody's doing well. Glad you're back with us. Of course,

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Speaker 1: It's been a busy couple of weeks on social media.

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Speaker 1: It's really heated up over the last couple of days.

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Speaker 1: It feels like, let's check in with CBS Sports senior

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Speaker 1: good afternoon to you. What's up man? What's up? J

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Speaker 1: p JP. You're like a close contact, like every two day,

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Speaker 1: I thank you day. We're notfice. Hey, I don't know, man.

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Speaker 1: I get it. I understand. Yeah, that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: everything else. So and feeling okay, So that's a good thing. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: right now, Pete, And um, what's the latest you? What

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Speaker 1: Is it relates to that team. And when he was there,

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Speaker 1: let it play out. There's a thing called negotiation. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this week in l A. The Shrine Bowl is next week.

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Speaker 1: It used to be in St. Pete. It's now in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas this year, and those are two that kind

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Speaker 1: of come ahead of it, but the Senior Bowl is

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Speaker 1: the the one that's the that's the big one of

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Speaker 1: the off season. And actually little note some here in

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville might remember this of a certain age range, but

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl actually started in Jacksonville. It was here

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Speaker 1: for a couple of years before it moved to Mobile.

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Speaker 1: It's like fifty years ago at least, and it's been

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Speaker 1: in Mobile ever since. A couple of years ago they

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Speaker 1: opened up a new stadium on the campus of the

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Speaker 1: University of South Alabama and that's where the game and

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Speaker 1: the practices are held. Now, more on that coming up.

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Speaker 1: We'll here from John Osier in just a moment, Jaguars

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Speaker 1: dot com senior writer. We'll get his thoughts on what's

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Speaker 1: happening with the Jags over the last few days and

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Speaker 1: the coaching search and what the next steps could be

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Speaker 1: for the Jacksonville Jaguars, and a little later, Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 1: NFL network analysts joining us. This is Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour and if you're watching on Jaguars dot Com or

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Speaker 1: Jack's social media channels. You are looking at the footprint

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Speaker 1: of the Football Performance Center. They have started taking things down.

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Speaker 1: The process has started. The bleachers are gone, part of

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Speaker 1: the gate of the players parking lot is now gone.

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Speaker 1: That's how wide this thing is going to be when

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Speaker 1: it's done. The Football Performance Center footprint, the the they

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Speaker 1: have started to disassemble some things and it's apparently going

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Speaker 1: to be open for business. The team will move in

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Speaker 1: for it, so right before training camps. That's the ideal

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Speaker 1: time summer of not of course this season, so they'll

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Speaker 1: need this season and they'll have to make some some

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Speaker 1: plans to do some of the offseason workouts in other areas.

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Speaker 1: My guests would be that indoor um on the south

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Speaker 1: end of the stadium at Daily's Place, and maybe even

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Speaker 1: on the on the t I A Bank Field surface

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Speaker 1: and then training camp. Who knows, well, that's a little

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Speaker 1: for far down the road, but they'll have to make

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Speaker 1: some arrangements there with the construction underway. So that's good news.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy our j P. Shadrick with

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Speaker 1: you from the home office today. Due to close contact

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Speaker 1: tracing all as well, though John Osan joining us over

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Speaker 1: the phone now Jaguars dot Com senior writer and a

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Speaker 1: good afternoon, John. What's up man? Yeah, I'm not close

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Speaker 1: contact JP, but yeah we talked today, so maybe I'll

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Speaker 1: will be who knows in this crazy world, right who?

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Speaker 1: It's Yeah, things happened in an instant, so, um, who knows.

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Speaker 1: You know. Hey, we're feeling okay over here, so that's fine. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'll let you know if it goes the other way though.

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Speaker 1: Um So all right, there's a lot going on, John,

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Speaker 1: Obviously most of it's in behind closed doors. I think

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Speaker 1: that this is there where social media and things have

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Speaker 1: changed the whole reporting structure of the league and everything

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Speaker 1: that goes on in this time period. This is stuff

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Speaker 1: you never really heard or thought about, um really because

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Speaker 1: you it never really came out behind closed doors. All

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Speaker 1: the negotiating and back and forth and posturing and go

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Speaker 1: and interview other places and all that. That's I would think,

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Speaker 1: at least a relatively new phenomena in the NFL. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna guess in nineteen seventy eight, you didn't follow this

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Speaker 1: kind of coaching search like you do now. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: fortunately I was not covering the league yet. Yeah, I

489
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Speaker 1: was still a couple of decades away. I can tell

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Speaker 1: you in people who don't know, I covered the Jags

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Speaker 1: for US six seven years for the newspaper, and then

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Speaker 1: I went to the Colts for ten years inside, and

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Speaker 1: now I've been with the Jaguars sort of inside, you know,

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Speaker 1: so two decades inside seven in the newspaper games h

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Speaker 1: certainly in the nineties and up until ten years ago,

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Speaker 1: everything like this. You would hear things like this, like

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Speaker 1: what you hear on Twitter, but it would be written

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Speaker 1: in the next day's newspaper story every day, so there

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Speaker 1: was time to sort through it. There was time too

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Speaker 1: if you heard something maybe make two calls, which used

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Speaker 1: to be the old thing. If you had two sources,

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Speaker 1: you probably would run it. If you had three, definitely,

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Speaker 1: so there was more time at that point for making

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Speaker 1: sure you were right. It would still be nice to

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Speaker 1: make sure you're right in this day and age, but

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Speaker 1: it's harder because you know, everything's out there, everything is

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Speaker 1: getting retweeted. Everything looks the same in terms of legitimacy,

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Speaker 1: so it's it's hard things get reported and it's hard

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Speaker 1: to know what's real, what's fact, what speculation? What I

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00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: heard this and it's really close uh awording comes into play,

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Speaker 1: how something's worded and then it gets picked apart. So

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Speaker 1: all the internet flues. Um, it's a wild wild West.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that's going to change because social media.

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Speaker 1: Is it better or worse, I don't know, but it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's so much different as to be unrecognizable as

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Speaker 1: part of the news cycle. Now. I mean, we know

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Speaker 1: that the day after the season, it's Black Monday and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna fire a bunch of people, and there's this.

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Speaker 1: You know, this offseason there have been nine openings to

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Speaker 1: have been filled, and that's it's. It seems like a

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Speaker 1: higher number than normal, but that's just kind of part

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Speaker 1: of the flow of the NFL offseason. Now is the

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Speaker 1: first month figuring out who's coaching where in the new places.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately that Jaguars have had to do that a little

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Speaker 1: bit too much as of late. Um, you know, all

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Speaker 1: the fans John, or most of them, at least the ones,

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Speaker 1: the vocal ones on social media are all about Byron Leftwitch. So, um,

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Speaker 1: where are you with Byron Leftwitch? You know, I said,

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Speaker 1: since this process started, I've fortunate enough and I stay

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Speaker 1: fortunately because I like both men. I'm fortunate enough to

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Speaker 1: know Nate Hackett fairly well and no Jim calledwell very

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Speaker 1: very well. So when their names were mentioned, I talked

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Speaker 1: very positively to them because I know what they're about.

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Speaker 1: Your natural tendency is to uh get to do that.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are on the Jaguars new buyer

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people in Jaguars media knew him

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Speaker 1: and fans had a connection to him. I've covered him

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Speaker 1: maybe eight times uh in games, watching him play with

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Speaker 1: the Colt or watching play against the Colt. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: I have talked in a lot of a few weeks

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Speaker 1: to some players. Uh. You know, I talked to Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Fred that uh, Brad Meester, guys who knew him very well,

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Speaker 1: and some other people in the building knew him very well,

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Speaker 1: and they say nothing but incredibly positive things about JP.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately for you, you you have to read me every day

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Speaker 1: in the O zone, so you know that the things

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Speaker 1: I value in a head coach, I don't care that

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Speaker 1: much about x as and ohs. But give me a

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Speaker 1: guy who's the leader, who players will believe in, who

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Speaker 1: can set a tone, who is a smart guy, who

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Speaker 1: can handle the day to day of the NFL job. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's what I've been asking people about with Byron, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's to check every box, absolutely above average, fantastic

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Speaker 1: fit for those things. Uh So I think it would

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Speaker 1: be exciting. The fans seem to want it. So all

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Speaker 1: those things are in place, Now does it work out

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Speaker 1: the shot eventu ata say this is the right fit

558
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Speaker 1: for a merit of reasons, I don't know, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's many bad choices that certainly seems

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Speaker 1: like Byron left, which would be an absolutely great choice

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Speaker 1: that people want. So let's see. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how much more to say than that, because we

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Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen. Yeah, And obviously a

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Speaker 1: couple of the other names that were um I had

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Speaker 1: already interviewed with the Jaguar as a time or two.

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Speaker 1: He Refluce had done it twice already. The report that

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Speaker 1: Hackett was coming back was enough to send the Broncos

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Speaker 1: back into the table and they made that deal done

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Speaker 1: with Hackett. So with those those are really the two

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Speaker 1: other big names as of late that were reported with

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Speaker 1: the Jags that you had seen that first wave of interviews.

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Speaker 1: Haven't heard Caldwell's name in a little while, though, John,

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Speaker 1: I'm curious because his name was reported with Chicago, but

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Speaker 1: now that one's filled. Yeah, and again, I I knew

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Speaker 1: Jim well for ten years. I see him a different

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Speaker 1: thing that I don't. I don't talk to Jim on

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Speaker 1: any sort of regular basis for a long long time,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. I have no insight into into

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Speaker 1: what happened. It's it does seem generally like uh in

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Speaker 1: this cycle and right now, teams aren't really going for

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Speaker 1: the X head coach. Uh. There there's sort of a

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Speaker 1: new blood trend so far. Uh hack it Faberflus that

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Speaker 1: follows what's in the championship games right now. There's Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: of course, but you also had La Fleurid Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: You've got mixed uh McVeigh, You've got Taylor, you got

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati situation Shanahan, all young guys who have taken over

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Speaker 1: and who are sort of setting their tone the new

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Speaker 1: blood thing. Uh. So, perhaps that's why Peterson called well,

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Speaker 1: some of the X head coaches name I didn't really

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Speaker 1: take off. It's it's probably got dangerous on my part

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Speaker 1: to try to say, okay, two positions have been hired.

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Speaker 1: So that's a trend. But perhaps that's why some of

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Speaker 1: the X head coaches UH haven't gotten a look. Pendulums

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Speaker 1: and trends in this league UH tend to sway back

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Speaker 1: and forth every couple of years. That's what this one

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Speaker 1: feels like right now. John Ozer, Jaguars dot Com senior

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Speaker 1: writer with US, Who do you like in the games

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Speaker 1: this weekend? John? Good? You know it. Let's just hope

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Speaker 1: they're as good as last week's, right. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure you can expect the Buffalo Kansas City. Uh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know me the old school guy, and he was

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Speaker 1: screaming for some defense in that game, but nobody else

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Speaker 1: seemed to want it, So I was just kinda I

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Speaker 1: was the old man yelling at the moon on that one.

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Speaker 1: But fantastic game. I think I like Uh, I like

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners over the Rams because they seem to

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Speaker 1: be able to handle that team. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: a coincidence they've won so many a New Row against them.

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Speaker 1: They seem to match up and their physical and compound

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Speaker 1: at him, and the Rams haven't handled that that well.

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Speaker 1: So maybe that's the way that one goes. I I

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Speaker 1: typically believe when a team has been there that often

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Speaker 1: is Kansas City. With a quarterback like that, Kansas City

614
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: is starting to feel a little bit like the Brady

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Speaker 1: Air of Patriots, where you better bring a lot if

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Speaker 1: you're going to knock them off. And for a young

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Speaker 1: team to knock them off, this may be a situation

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Speaker 1: where Cincinnati needs to be there once, get the experience,

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Speaker 1: and come back and go after him again. The Chiefs

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Speaker 1: at home are gonna be tough to beat that one. Yeah, Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: but it's a fourth straight conference championship and an amazing

622
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Speaker 1: stat by the way, I mean it is uh all

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Speaker 1: at home too. I know they didn't learn the home

624
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Speaker 1: in the home field this year, but you know, I'm

625
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Speaker 1: sure it will happen again someday, but it gonna be

626
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Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, that's a that's a heck of a

627
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Speaker 1: run for sure. John. We're going to Senior Bowl next

628
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Speaker 1: week maybe if if breaking news doesn't stop us from going.

629
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Speaker 1: But hey, another Senior Bowl run. It's been a little

630
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Speaker 1: bit since I've been to one. I haven't been to

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Speaker 1: the new stadium yet. Looking forward to that. And it's

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Speaker 1: really as we were talking to Pete a moment ago,

633
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Speaker 1: Pete Prisco you've heard of him. Um, it's really the

634
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Speaker 1: first big offseason coaching convention of sorts, and a lot

635
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: of business can be done in that week next week, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Pete and I used to call it the Garb set

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Speaker 1: because you would walk around and all the newly hired

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Speaker 1: coaches were supporting their new Back in the day, used

639
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Speaker 1: to be starter Garb, I think. So it's always interesting

640
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Speaker 1: to people watch there, but it is it's not the

641
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Speaker 1: extent of the combine where everybody's there, and the Senior

642
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: Bowl has has fallen off a little bit in terms

643
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Speaker 1: of the number of head coaches you see, because I

644
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Speaker 1: think so do with so many changes uh staff that

645
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Speaker 1: change typically can't get over to the Senior Bowl. But

646
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Speaker 1: it it is certainly a it's the convention where you

647
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: start to hear things. It's not as much of a

648
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: job fair as I think it was back when I

649
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: started covering the nineties and early two thousands, but it's

650
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Speaker 1: certainly where you started hearing gossips. And for us JP obviously, UM,

651
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: I know we were talking about it in our planning

652
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: meeting today. We're thinking so much about the head coach

653
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: and everything going on right now that it's easy to

654
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Speaker 1: forget the Jet Wars have the number one pick. It's

655
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: it's uh, that hasn't really been much of a topic.

656
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: But for me personally, I'm looking forward to getting out there.

657
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: That's always where I start really thinking about the draft

658
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: and trying to figure out how things will play out.

659
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Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to go ahead and talking to

660
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Speaker 1: people about these top guys, about the depth of the draft. Uh,

661
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: that's what the Senior Bowl is really all about. Uh,

662
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Speaker 1: although this year we'll see if we're going. I know

663
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Speaker 1: JP from experience, Once somebody tells you you're going to Mobile,

664
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Speaker 1: it's hard to get you off that sense. I've spent

665
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Speaker 1: many of nights in that town. Um many a long,

666
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Speaker 1: long night in that. Don't tell you you're going to

667
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Speaker 1: Mobile and then turn that around, yeah, because I might

668
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Speaker 1: just still go anyway. You never know, John, thanks to

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Speaker 1: the time, Buddy, appreciate it. We'll talk to you all right,

670
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Speaker 1: but anytime people'll talk John Os. You're Jaguars dot Com

671
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Speaker 1: senior writer joining us. A lot going on, obviously, It's

672
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: it's easy to forget that, Yes, the Jaguars have the

673
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Speaker 1: number one overall pick again, second year a row. I mean,

674
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Speaker 1: I don't think you wanted three years in a row.

675
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Speaker 1: In fact, I know you don't, but hey, you got it,

676
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Speaker 1: so make sure you do all the due diligence, get

677
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Speaker 1: the right guy. That that's we're gonna start that offseason

678
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Speaker 1: content strategy plan, of course, in the next little bit

679
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: here on Jaguars dot Com, so stay tuned for that

680
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Speaker 1: as we move forward. We're back in a moment Bucky

681
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Speaker 1: Brooks joining us NFL Network analyst. He's out in l

682
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Speaker 1: a Well. Get his thoughts on the Jaguars search. He's

683
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: got the Collegiate Bowl coming up, the Shrine game, all

684
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Speaker 1: that right around the corner for Bucky. And this is

685
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back.

686
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,479
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick with you from

687
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Speaker 1: the home studio today. Close Contact ball as well. Though

688
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 1: it's our first show since the end of the regular season.

689
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Speaker 1: The day after, we had a Monday edition of Jaguars

690
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. The Jaguars still have a coaching vacancy, but

691
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Speaker 1: there are many names that have been thrown around with it,

692
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Speaker 1: most recently of course, Byron Leftwich. No new news yet,

693
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Speaker 1: but we'll see. We heard Pete Prisco earlier say hey,

694
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe the next couple of days. They you'd

695
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Speaker 1: like to have somebody in place before the Senior Bowl

696
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Speaker 1: and all that going on. But then in the grand

697
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Speaker 1: scheme of things, there's really not a huge rush because

698
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Speaker 1: you just want to get it right. We get it

699
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Speaker 1: right anytime. Bucky Brooks is on with US NFL Network

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Speaker 1: analyst joining us from Los Angeles. Good afternoon, Bucky, what's up?

701
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Speaker 1: What m JP? What's up? My guy? I haven't talked

702
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: to you forever. It's been a minute. It's been a minute. Yeah,

703
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: it's good to talk to you. Thanks for the time.

704
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. I know. Um. You know. So the

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00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: social media thing is is nuts, right, I mean, everybody

706
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Speaker 1: is has a report, everybody has an angle. Fans are

707
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Speaker 1: all about getting this thing done as fast as possible.

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Speaker 1: And when they hear the name Byron left, which now

709
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Speaker 1: it's okay, let's go get Byron. And then Nate Hacketts

710
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: gets fired, it gets hired by the Broncos, one of

711
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Speaker 1: the names that was in the hunt. There goes Zebra

712
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: flues to Chicago. All in the last day. I think

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Speaker 1: that's ramped people's eagerness up again. Everybody's trying to get

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Speaker 1: this thing done quickly, at least the for the fan base. Now,

715
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Speaker 1: from a team perspective, you just gotta go get the

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Speaker 1: right guy and not worry about the timing. Right, you

717
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: do have to get the right guy, but timing does

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Speaker 1: matter now that coaches have been put in seats, because

719
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Speaker 1: what happens is if you don't get your head coach

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Speaker 1: in the building right away, he now has to wait

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Speaker 1: to hire coaches and then you kind of left with

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Speaker 1: the picked over selection. And so the sooner that you're

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Speaker 1: able to get the head coach in, the better he's

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Speaker 1: able to assemble his staff, he's able to get top

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Speaker 1: quality coaches as opposed to settling. Now. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that there's a huge disparity between some of the coaches,

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Speaker 1: but you would like him to have his ideal pick.

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Speaker 1: So you want to kind of secure the bag when

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Speaker 1: it comes to that, get the head coach in, and

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Speaker 1: then build it out from there. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: work to do, and so I think Jaguars fans are

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Speaker 1: right to be anxious to see how they're gonna get

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Speaker 1: the work done. That's how these things go, right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's teams that come in and ask for interviews. There,

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Speaker 1: you know, and then you might have a guy in

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Speaker 1: mind or maybe maybe negotiating, and here comes the Saints.

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Speaker 1: They want to talk to Byron too. They still have

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Speaker 1: an opening, they have a relatively new opening. So how

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Speaker 1: much of that is posturing, how much of it is negotiation,

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Speaker 1: how much of it is real, all of it, all

741
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Speaker 1: of it is. In these situations when you're trying to

742
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Speaker 1: figure out who's going to be the coach, how much

743
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Speaker 1: money you're willing to pay the coach, it all comes

744
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Speaker 1: down to leverage, and sometimes you get what you negotiate.

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Speaker 1: And so if you do have another team come in

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Speaker 1: at the eleventh hour, that kind of raises the stakes

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and then you have guys go, guys

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Speaker 1: that you knew were really in play at the job.

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Speaker 1: Leverage swings and it shifts, and so you have to

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Speaker 1: be careful playing the game. But it certainly is a

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Speaker 1: part of the conversation. And what you would hope is

752
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Speaker 1: in the next few days that something is wrapped up,

753
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Speaker 1: you get the coach, you have everything lined up. There's

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Speaker 1: a level of i would say unison or uniformity when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the way the head coach and the

756
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Speaker 1: general manager and everybody is on board. And then the

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Speaker 1: way we go about the Vic Fangio bomb that came

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Speaker 1: in yesterday that the Jags are sent to play that

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Speaker 1: out not for hack It, but for Vic Fangio. And

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Speaker 1: then the later report was maybe it was because of

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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator possibilities. That's that's a name that was

762
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Speaker 1: kind of thrown out of nowhere. Yeah, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I think this business is a relationship business. And when

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Speaker 1: you go back and you look at general manager Trent

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Speaker 1: Balky's relationship with Big Fangio. Fangio was the defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: at the time he was there at the Semnasrisco forty nine,

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Speaker 1: So there's a natural um connectivity between them. They've seen

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Speaker 1: each other's work. There's probably a level of respect and appreciation.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Balky respects and appreciates what Fanjo was able to

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Speaker 1: do maybe in Denver and some uh, difficult circumstances, particularly

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, and so you know they're gonna kick the

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Speaker 1: tires and kind of do those things. And it's also

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Speaker 1: a situation where um sometimes as the leader of the organization,

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Speaker 1: and we will say that right now, Balky is the

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Speaker 1: leader of the organization. Some times you're trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out how can I have the best alignment with the

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Speaker 1: coach as opposed to what others on the outside might

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Speaker 1: be the best coach in candidate Bucky Brooks with this

779
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Speaker 1: NFL Network analyst, of course, the Jaguars coaching gigs still open.

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Speaker 1: One of the reports earlier today from Arizona was that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Byron Left, which was going to be the Jaguars head coach,

782
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Speaker 1: but a member of the Cardinals front office would be GM.

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Speaker 1: All that combined. Of course, as you just said, there

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Speaker 1: is a GM here in Jacksonville. Trent Balky is the

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Speaker 1: general manager. What do you know about Wilson and what

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Speaker 1: he's done with the Cardinals. Yeah, Adrian Wilson is a

787
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: was now standing player in this league, big time player

788
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Speaker 1: in this league as a safety transition from being a

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Speaker 1: player to me in a very well respected front office executive,

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Speaker 1: worked his way up the ladder in Arizona after his

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00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: playing days. Uh, comes well equipped with the team building

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Speaker 1: strategies that you certainly would like. Um, look, I understand

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Speaker 1: Byron Left, which has spent time in Arizona, and so

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Speaker 1: if you're the head coach and you have an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to pick hand pick your personnel. Man, you're on someone

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00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: that you trust, someone that might see the game the

797
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: same way that you see the game, so that you're

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00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: in lockstep when it comes to building up the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily surprised by the names and the connections

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Speaker 1: and how they're kind of joined at the hip. I

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Speaker 1: just think it's a little odd when you have a

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Speaker 1: GM in place who reportedly is running the coaching search.

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Speaker 1: Look at a bowl move, however, it's a move that,

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Speaker 1: depending on the leverage that you have, it's one that

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Speaker 1: you can make interesting for sure. Bucky Brooks with us

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Speaker 1: NFL Network analysts, So all right, you're let's let's change

807
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: gears here. You're this is the pre draft season is underway,

808
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Speaker 1: Collegiate bowls this week, the Shrine Game is coming up,

809
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl is next week. I mean, we're here now, Bucky,

810
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: here it is. Yeah, we're here right now. I mean

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Speaker 1: we're in full mock draft season. Everyone is speculating who's

812
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Speaker 1: going where, even though we don't even have coaches and

813
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: we were still waiting to see on general manager. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: stop us from trying to connect the dots and see

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Speaker 1: where it's gonna go. I think it's an exciting time

816
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: in the league because obviously everyone is able to kind

817
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: of turn the page because as these teams get eliminated

818
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Speaker 1: from the tournament, everyone cast their eyes to next year

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Speaker 1: and how their team can get better. I think for

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars, I think it's a huge year because you

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Speaker 1: have the number one pick for the second year in

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Speaker 1: a row. Uh, that pick needs to be an impact player,

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Speaker 1: a difference maker, a franchise pillar, and so I think

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Speaker 1: the curiosity for me and for others sense from the

825
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Speaker 1: fact on how are the Jaguars going to do this rebuild?

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Speaker 1: Are they going to initially rebuild around Trevor Lawrence, so

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Speaker 1: he's going to be offensive centric, much like we saw

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals be able to do. And in two years,

829
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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals are where everyone would aspire to be,

830
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Speaker 1: one game away from the super Bowl. Or is this

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Speaker 1: going to be a situation where you're looking at the

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Speaker 1: defense and saying, hey, let's get a pass for Ushure,

833
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: let's add to the defense. Maybe we can bring the

834
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Speaker 1: defense up the snuff. A lot of fascinating debates that

835
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Speaker 1: take place over the next three or four months. You

836
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Speaker 1: gotta score points. I mean, look at the playoff games,

837
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: but you gotta score points. Oh I just said here

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Speaker 1: and saw San Francisco in Green Bay Cincinnati Bengals nineteen sixteen.

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Speaker 1: What are we talking about, JP. It wasn't until we

840
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Speaker 1: were forced in the last two minutes of the Buffalo

841
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Speaker 1: Bills and the Kansas City Chiefs that we had to

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Speaker 1: score points. That was the only game where we had

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Speaker 1: to really do it. The rest of the games they like,

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Speaker 1: they scored more points in those two minutes in the

845
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: Jags scored all season. You kidn't mean they did. They did,

846
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Speaker 1: but it took the pressure of a two minute drill

847
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: and about to go home before they decided to ramp

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Speaker 1: it up. And it also depends on the level of quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I do know now though, JP, I think now more

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Speaker 1: than ever the importance of having um and at the

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback in the fault UM. I think, by all accounts,

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Speaker 1: we feel hopefully and optimistics about Trevor Lawrence. But you

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Speaker 1: now see like, Okay, you get the quarterback one year,

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Speaker 1: you get the weapons the next year, and away we go.

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Speaker 1: And I think the Joe Burrow model what we saw

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Speaker 1: those high flowered playmakers Ja Marchase, Tyler boyd um Tee Higgins,

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Speaker 1: Joe Mixing, whatever. That offensive line looks like they do

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Speaker 1: put points on the board, and then they did they

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Speaker 1: committed a lot of free agent resources to the defense.

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Speaker 1: But I do believe that that as a model that

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Speaker 1: if I was sniffing around the building in Jacksonville, I

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Speaker 1: might just kind of drop some who they posters around

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Speaker 1: maybe just look at how those guys did it, because

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Speaker 1: they're right there. So you know, how about the trend

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Speaker 1: of these mobile quarterbacks because the homes can move around.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Josh Allen, we saw what he can do

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Speaker 1: with that size and mobility and all that. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Burrows exactly a runner, but Trevor has the

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Speaker 1: ability to do that. Is that the future? You everybody's

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Speaker 1: gonna kind of want these guys that can move around

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Speaker 1: more than just stand there like a statue. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: can't be a statue. I don't know if you necessarily

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Speaker 1: um one of the guy that's a runner. Even though

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Speaker 1: man Josh Allen is such an outlier, like big physical

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Speaker 1: running over guys. I mean, he's superhero with the ball

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Speaker 1: in his hands. And keep in mind that guy came

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Speaker 1: to Jackson only got thwarted, got stie me nine six.

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Speaker 1: You know all the points that we saw in that game.

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Speaker 1: So um, it is fascinated. But JP, I think you

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Speaker 1: cannot look at the tournament and not come away knowing

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Speaker 1: that you have to have a guy to do it,

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Speaker 1: and that you can get so far with a guy

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Speaker 1: who is fine and the team around him is great.

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Speaker 1: But if you're going to be one of the last

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Speaker 1: team standing, you better have a dude. Now, the only

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Speaker 1: outline of the group is Jimmy Garoppolo, because I think

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Speaker 1: we all are like Jimmy was all right, He's okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's B B B minus. But the team

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Speaker 1: is so good and it's so physical. I just wonder

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Speaker 1: about the margin Rivera. That's it. They can wind it.

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Speaker 1: They want up in the super Bowl because they're so good,

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Speaker 1: they physical or whatever the other thing I think now,

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Speaker 1: the formula is quarterback, a level, pass rush, a level playmakers.

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Speaker 1: That other stuff you can work around, but you have

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Speaker 1: to have the pass rushing to go with the quarterback

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Speaker 1: to be able to do it. Bucky, we've got about

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Speaker 1: a minute left with you here, so quickly, who do

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Speaker 1: you like in the games on on Sunday. Oh, this

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Speaker 1: is so much fun. I'm gonna go to the KNSC

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs because I think the kNs the Chiefs have

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Speaker 1: the recipe for getting it done. I mean, you go

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Speaker 1: to three Street title games, you can do Street super

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Speaker 1: Bowls like that is a remarkable concert. I think that

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Speaker 1: experience gives them a little bit. And the thing the

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Speaker 1: San Francisco fort nine is in l a Rams is

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Speaker 1: so interesting because the forty nine is absolutely on the Rams,

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Speaker 1: much like the Jacksonville jack Wards owned the coach where

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, they just owned it. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: where you roll the ball out, how bad the team

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Speaker 1: is when they play that team, they do it. But man,

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Speaker 1: the star power of the Rams is fascinating. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go with the Rams in this one because I feel

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Speaker 1: like they find the way to get it done. The man,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if he goes. We'll see see

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Speaker 1: how many Rams fans sell their tickets to saying have

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Speaker 1: you trying to block them out? But the faith, the

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Speaker 1: faith one was going out. They can't let it can't

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Speaker 1: be all red on Championship Sunday. It just can't be

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Speaker 1: all read Bucky, enjoy it. Thanks for the time. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. As always said, hey man, call me anytime.

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, NFL Network analyst here. Thanks also to Pete Prisco,

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports Senior Writer, John Osher, Jaguars dot Com senior

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Speaker 1: writer Joe Fortunato on the audio side, Brent re We're

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Speaker 1: on the video side, and thank you for watching and listening.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.