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Speaker 1: episode description. Okay, here we are. We're on season two,

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Speaker 1: episode five, the Thong, and I'm STUSI esman.

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Speaker 3: Who are you. I'm Jeff Garland, one of America's top teens.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and we have a special guest with us today, Jeff.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we do, is mister Richard Lewis.

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Speaker 2: Richard Lewis.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen it before.

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Speaker 3: I love you, Richard.

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Speaker 4: I love you guys too. I love your show.

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Speaker 1: All right, now we're going to discuss the episode. Let

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Speaker 1: me just say right up front, this episode was directed

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Speaker 1: by none other than Jeff Garland.

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Speaker 2: Yes, how did that come about?

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Speaker 3: Well, it came about from me nudging Larry David over

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Speaker 3: and over and he was so reluctant, reluctant, reluctant, reluctant.

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Speaker 2: And and what what had you directed up until this point?

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Speaker 3: Nothing?

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Speaker 2: Nothing, absolutely directed stage stuff but nothing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I had yes. In terms of

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Speaker 3: it meant the world to me because by him allowing

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Speaker 3: me to direct, I was able to showcase that to

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Speaker 4: And Joe, didn't it help you shoe some? Didn't you

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Speaker 3: I shot Dennis Leary's and shoot it. I I co

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Speaker 3: I watched Yes, Yes, Yes, and John Stewart before Curb

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Richard, have you ever directed?

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Speaker 4: Just craft Services?

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Speaker 1: So we start the episode and Larry is in therapy.

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Speaker 4: Before we do can we just discuss the mental institution.

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Speaker 4: Back dropping me around Susan. What is that that.

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Speaker 2: We didn't tell you where are we doing this?

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Speaker 2: The creed More podcast.

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Speaker 4: This is our bell being production.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the interesting thing that we start out with

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Speaker 4: A minute, We're just Sean Meg. When I was in

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're back because we have the infamous genius that

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Speaker 1: here to go back a little history with you and Larry.

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Speaker 4: But when he came over to me and said, I'm

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Speaker 3: While we're here because he's only done this to me

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Speaker 3: didn't know.

443
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 2: I didn't know he did.

444
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 3: I was almost on a super day if I almost

445
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 3: played a sidekick in his USA Network Super Day, they

446
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 3: picked someone else and him, not knowing that that was

447
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 3: me the other one. He got furious. But anyhow, he

448
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 3: asked that you're the only three people he's ever asked

449
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 3: to be on the show. That's it in terms of

450
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 3: friends and what have you, and then saying to me,

451
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 3: you like this, How did he approach you?

452
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 2: He called me one day.

453
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 1: I was sitting in my apartment and he called me

454
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 1: one day and just Susie, Hi, it's so ded.

455
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 2: I hadn't heard from him in years.

456
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: I have the show. I think I told the story. Ready,

457
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 1: I'll tell it again. Can't remember I have the show.

458
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: Well i'm doing I want you to play Jeff Garland's wife.

459
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: And I said, we'll send me the script. There's no script,

460
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 1: Well what's the character? Don't worry about it.

461
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 2: You could do it. They said, there's no money. You

462
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 2: have to do it for scale and you have to

463
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 2: fly yourself by yourself.

464
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 1: And I remember saying, well, you know, I'm happy to

465
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 1: I'd love to work with you, but I'm not because

466
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 1: I lived in New York.

467
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:52,719
Speaker 2: I said, I'm not.

468
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 1: It can't cost me something to come work with you.

469
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: At least fly me out. You know, and then they

470
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 1: finally they found the money to fly me out. But

471
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't know what it was, right, right, Richie,

472
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: We didn't.

473
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 4: Know what it was.

474
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 2: Here we were twenty three years later, twenty three years.

475
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 4: It's unbelievable, you know. And sometimes I would run into

476
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 4: the guest stars if they were they're all pretty well known. No,

477
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 4: that's not true anymore. Where am I saying? But early

478
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 4: on I would beat my trail, would be next to

479
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 4: the guest star and I would walk out, And a

480
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 4: couple of times people would say what to do?

481
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know.

482
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 4: I tried to be like, calm down and just it's

483
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 4: all gonna be good. What do you tell them, Jeff.

484
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 3: Well, twice I tell them the same thing. You can't

485
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 3: make a mistake. We do it over and over until

486
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 3: we get it, and you can say anything you can.

487
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 2: Just have fun.

488
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 3: Just have fun. However, two very well known actors twice

489
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 3: to seven threw up before they really yes, And I

490
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 3: don't know if they do that in theater or movies,

491
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 3: but for this it might have.

492
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 2: Been their process.

493
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 3: No, but I think it was. They were a wreck

494
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 3: doing the style. Whereas all of us in this style,

495
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 3: you're almost like a love if it's like a glove.

496
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: Larry told me the other day on set your name

497
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 1: came up at Lewis And he told me the other

498
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 1: day on set that when you guys re met as

499
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 1: adults at the at the bar at the improv, what

500
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: year was.

501
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 4: That, seventy three or two?

502
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: Okay? He told me that you were instantaneously best friends.

503
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 4: Well, he realized that we knew each other twelve years before,

504
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 4: and now we're we finally recognized that we knew each

505
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 4: other and then were really disliked one another.

506
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: You disliked one another as kids. It's like twelve year

507
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 2: old boy.

508
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 4: But it was like it was like how could this happen?

509
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 4: And it meant there was a reason bigger than us,

510
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 4: some higher power of comedy put us together and we

511
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 4: were absolute best friends, I mean best friends suddenly. Yeah,

512
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 4: it was, That's what he said.

513
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: I was like that with Joy.

514
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: When Joy and I met in nineteen eighty three, we

515
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: were instantaneously best friends and have still are almost forty

516
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: years later.

517
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 3: I was like that with Denver Okay.

518
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: Mainer g Crimps, I know you're younger.

519
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 3: I know the groovy dude, I know it. Doby Gillis. Yes, yes, no,

520
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: Kilgan's Island, which i've I'd still watch an episode now

521
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 3: if it's on.

522
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 4: And I gotta tell you what I showed it about. Larry.

523
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 4: So as you said about Joy, I looked at your face.

524
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 4: You don't know, your eyes stillt to twirl, and I

525
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 4: want this is not going to be true, and I was,

526
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 4: and I should with low blow up for Jeff. Don't

527
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 4: shout out a name.

528
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: My god, by the way, you would have come up

529
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 3: with a better name. I'm sorry you would paused and

530
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 3: let you come up with a name. Yeah, I know,

531
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: all right.

532
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: Back to the episode. So he slept in the chairs,

533
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: the blanket, the umbrella, the cooler, they're on the can.

534
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 2: I just comment because I'm the woman in the group.

535
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 2: Cheryl looks amazing in that bikini.

536
00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 3: She done. Two thoughts Number one, Larry David was asked recently,

537
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: what advice would you give your young younger self two trips?

538
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 3: Now which grocery two trips? Two trips, don't try and

539
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 3: do it in one trip.

540
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: And he doesn't get this fascination people have with the ocean.

541
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 3: So that's real, Larry David. David, you know, to look

542
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 3: at the ocean and go, I.

543
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 5: Don't really get this fascination that people have with the ocean. No,

544
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 5: I mean I stare at it for ten minutes and

545
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 5: I go, Okay, I get it. Don't you feel calmer?

546
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 2: I feel aggravated.

547
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 5: Then I'm missing what other people are getting.

548
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: That's all I got to watch it ten minutes. I

549
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 3: get it.

550
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is real.

551
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:36,239
Speaker 4: Well.

552
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: He's also said, if you've seen one sunset, you've seen

553
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 2: them all.

554
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 3: Yes, you know.

555
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,479
Speaker 2: And then the moment comes. They're lying on the on

556
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 2: the blanket, he's all sun blocked up and he sees

557
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: the shrink in a not just a speedo, No, it

558
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: was a delight. It was a stripe, it was it

559
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: was a thigh.

560
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: It was a ball sack too.

561
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: It was a ball sack. It was a sight to behold.

562
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 3: Larry didn't see that at first. He saw the front

563
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: and he was unsettled, and then he dove down because

564
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 3: he wants Cheryl sees the back his thong on my government.

565
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 3: Now Larry didn't want to include that in the show.

566
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 2: Why not.

567
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: He didn't like it. He was embarrassed. He says, too much.

568
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 2: Yeah's way I know.

569
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: But I said to him, my people don't know that.

570
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 3: It's my classic Larry David Lyne. If you don't do that,

571
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: I will wrestle you. I will wrestle you so hard

572
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 3: and beat you. And he laughs and he gives in,

573
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 3: and he included it, and it was a huge laugh

574
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 3: in the episode.

575
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 2: And I think anybody who has been in therapy has

576
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: that moment. Oh oh, you know.

577
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: I mean if I saw my shrink in a well,

578
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: she was a woman, but if I saw her, it

579
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: would be horrifying to me. I saw her the judgment,

580
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: You have to question this person's judgment.

581
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. It reminds me of when I was a little boy.

582
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 3: I had a history teacher in junior high and he

583
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 3: was wonderful, one of my favorite teachers. The next time

584
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 3: I saw him, my family and I went out to

585
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: dinner at a buffet place called Sweden House, and it

586
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: was bussing tables at the same time. And so I

587
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 3: was you what I said to him, mister Wynn, how

588
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: are you? I didn't question I'm a boy. He did

589
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 3: not question it. And by the way, God bless him,

590
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: he actually reacted that way.

591
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: We have our image of these people, like I remember

592
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: seeing my principal in the summer in Bermuda shorts when

593
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: I was a kid.

594
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: And it blew my mind. He was always in a suit.

595
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: Were you wearing culots?

596
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: I was probably wearing a squirt or culotts. Once I

597
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: saw my shrink walking into the office in a mink

598
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 1: coat which did not fit with her holes, she was

599
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: like a be dippy and it completely changed my image

600
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: of her. You were not meant to see a shrink

601
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: in a thung.

602
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 3: God no, God no. And by the way, I can't

603
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: remember the actor's name. If you guys could research it,

604
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: who played the.

605
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: Therapist, I haven't written you do?

606
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what a brave move, yeah, by an actor

607
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 3: of that age. He was clearly in his fifties to

608
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: and not you know, in Adonis to wear that bathing suit.

609
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: Now, John Plashett John no relation to Susanne.

610
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: But he was also very We've hired a lot of

611
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: working character actors that I had seen in a lot

612
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 3: of TV and a lot of movies. And for him

613
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 3: to wear that suit and bend over like that, Oh

614
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 3: my god, he very brave. That's acting brave. You know.

615
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 3: People say that performance it was so brave. No, it

616
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 3: wasn't brave wearing a thong like that on the beach Brave.

617
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: Then the question is does he tell Richard Lewis about

618
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: the thong? Because then we understand that Richard Lewis goes

619
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: to the same shrink and does he tell Richard? And

620
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: that becomes a big conundrum for him and he does obviously.

621
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: Next scene it's you, Richie and Larry and he tells

622
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,239
Speaker 1: you about the thong and you're very upset about it.

623
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 4: You know what, this is so unfair of you. You know,

624
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 4: I turn you on to this guy. He's a brilliant doctor,

625
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 4: but I would have never.

626
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: Told you.

627
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 5: Saving you from from on this heaton this gig giving

628
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 5: you advice.

629
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: She's a heating is. It's not a heatonist, what is it?

630
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 4: This is my twenty eighth therapist since nineteen sixty nine.

631
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to go anymore. I don't want to

632
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 3: break the fucking recap. The recap is very hard. Your

633
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: recap is two three months? Isn't it three months for

634
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: you to recap?

635
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: That's just a crib.

636
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: But you're upset about it because now you don't want

637
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: this information.

638
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 4: Oh well, I know i'd have to leave the guy too, exactly.

639
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: And now we've got to figure out I've been answering,

640
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 4: let's go to lunch and discuss termination.

641
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 3: Right, and you didn't do it.

642
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 4: I'd two guys pase you didn't.

643
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: Do it, because you were shocked later on that you

644
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: were not.

645
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: And you say to Larry, I've had twenty eight therapists

646
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: since nineteen twenty nine, and to go through a new recap,

647
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: the recap for you is is hard.

648
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: And then you guys start us.

649
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: Making fun of the recap. Now have you had that

650
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: many therapists, because you've been going for a long time?

651
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 4: I had about six or seven, right, not twenty way back.

652
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 4: And when I just started conning, my father passed away

653
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: and I went on stage to fill that hole. I

654
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 4: didn't have mighty money and a friend of mine was

655
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,239
Speaker 4: a hospital of this Wallbee brief the hospital administrator, though

656
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: he said you can come to it was Queen's Elmer's Hospital.

657
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 4: Hour was that time living in Jersey and some dunk,

658
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 4: but he said it's a dollar an hour. I went,

659
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 4: WHOA a dollar an hour I could afford? So I

660
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 4: drive fifteen miles to the Queen to forty miles whatever

661
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 4: from Jersey, and I got to interview with the head

662
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 4: of the psychiatric department, and he gives me the standardized tense,

663
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 4: and I think my memory is screwed up.

664
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 5: Now.

665
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 4: Even back then he would say this, who's the Secretary

666
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 4: of State? And I just I panicked. I went lu Costello.

667
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 4: I just didn't know, but he and then he said,

668
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 4: who's the UN ambassador Fedruary? I don't care to think that.

669
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: Don mean he's writing everything down? Faye ready, Lucastello. So

670
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 4: he asked me twenty of these, and I was pissed off.

671
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 4: I said, look, my father just died. I just started

672
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 4: to stand up. I'm a wreck. I need to see

673
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 4: his strength. And he kept asking me who is this? Who? What? Who? Forty?

674
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 4: World War One?

675
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: The dogs of that.

676
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: By the way, you're making me feel better right now,

677
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: because I've had that since that age and probably before,

678
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: where there's no way and there's even obvious names friends

679
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: of mine.

680
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: Then then, Lewis, you say something when you when you're

681
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: discussing with Larry how to terminate you say which made

682
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: me laugh.

683
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 4: I got it. How am I going to tell him

684
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 4: I'm going to leave now? How am I gonna tellhim

685
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna leave now?

686
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 5: I don't know? Is it like a Look, can you

687
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 5: do it on the phone.

688
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: You have to do it in person.

689
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 4: What's fodentially in cable you have to go in aging

690
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 4: human beings helped.

691
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: You, you know, And and the termination is always a

692
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: big fucking thing with these therapists.

693
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: We'll be right back. Stay tuned.

694
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: And we're back.

695
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: What did you say, Richard about roots? Do you remember?

696
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: Yes, that's later.

697
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: Richard says, let's go to lunch and figure out a

698
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: game plan how we're both going to terminate. And let

699
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: Larry says he can't go to lunch because he's being

700
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: auctioned off.

701
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: And that's what Richard says.

702
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 4: What is this fruits that I talked about? Slavery? Slavery reference?

703
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: Yes, we know, we got the reference. Thank you do.

704
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 4: I thought you needed to be, you know, an educator.

705
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 4: Fisher a brief.

706
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: Moment, Oh my god, I love you God.

707
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 4: If I make a pull on my shelf every thirty seconds.

708
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: That's a typical Lewis reference, though, isn't it. That's such

709
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: a Lewis.

710
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: We've talked about on our previous episodes. We always point

711
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: out the brilliant Lewis references that.

712
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: Only you could come up here. You better accept so

713
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: now somebody's paying him four thousand dollars, he's got to go.

714
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: It's a lot of pressure. But blah blah blah.

715
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: So Larry shows up at the restaurant and he meets

716
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: the person who bought him for four thousand dollars, John Tyler.

717
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tom McGowan.

718
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: Tom McGowan, very successful.

719
00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 3: Character actor, very good friends of mine, you know, and

720
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 3: him and everybody agreed, Yeah, great improv great actor and

721
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 3: the nicest guy, always saying somebody sweet, a very sweet guy.

722
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: Well you could see he's sweet by his face. And

723
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: he was terrific in his disappointment.

724
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 3: And also at not getting a thing that Larry is

725
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: doing in the scene.

726
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: And but I don't think Larry's behavior was so horrible, No,

727
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: because he was uncomfortable. He was uncomfortable, and he was

728
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: John Tip Tipper Tippy Canoe and Tyler too, and John

729
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: Tyler the president, and I'm related to King David. And

730
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: ever catch your parents having sex?

731
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 3: By the way, by that that came so out of

732
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: left field, which made it so funny.

733
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 5: You ever catch your parents? No, no me either, you

734
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 5: know they did, but you wanted to win.

735
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: And then he went to where is it from I'm

736
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: from Jersey. You ever see here Joe to the Jersey Guy,

737
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 3: and then he starts doing an impression of Joe Episcopo

738
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: during the Jersey Guy and then playing.

739
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 2: The Salt Pepper Shakers and the you know.

740
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: Then he sings in the Marilyn monroepreciate.

741
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 3: Hold on though, that is to me a sublime moment.

742
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 3: He's sitting on, he's playing you ever you ever play

743
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: on the salt Shakers? And he's playing a song on

744
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 3: the salt shakers and you recognize it? Happy Birthday? Simple.

745
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: John Tyler does not recognize it, and he goes, well,

746
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 3: what is it? Larry goes happy Birthday? He starts stinging

747
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: at regular and then Larry suddenly goes into Marilyn Monroe,

748
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 3: Larry David in prison birthday, mister President. And then he

749
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: points at John Tyler about you know, I just thought that.

750
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 4: Was magnificent, magnificent.

751
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then of course going into he's got a

752
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,959
Speaker 1: terrific penis, etc.

753
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:53,959
Speaker 3: Etc.

754
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: And then about the dick growth.

755
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: Then he starts in with the growth syndrome, which which

756
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: John Tyler's Nie has growth syndrome.

757
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: We've established that fact.

758
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: And he goes into that it was named that he

759
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: thinks it was named after Dick Grote, who was a shortstop.

760
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 3: For who the Pittsburgh Pirates for the Pirates of his

761
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: baseball card.

762
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: Okay, and clearly John Tyler is upset about the fact

763
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: that he's thinking it's named after Dick wrote.

764
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: And then the food comes.

765
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 3: Hold on, I have a thing that is for you guys,

766
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: and a handful of other people. So Larry and I

767
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: wanted to put a comedian that we knew into the

768
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 3: waiters role. We asked the casting people to get us

769
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: Mike Reynolds. Yes, Mike Reynolds, the comedian and.

770
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:38,959
Speaker 2: Sadly no longer here.

771
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I love the guy. And that man comes

772
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 3: over that scene. Larry and I weren't prepared. Your food

773
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 3: will be coming, older gentlemen, totally miscast as a waiter,

774
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: and we both asked, where is what happened to Mike Reynolds?

775
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 3: She booked the wrong micro.

776
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: His name is Mike, and I've never forgotten.

777
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: We were just like, oh.

778
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: Mike Reynolds, Yeah, I know, great guy.

779
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: And then Larry's food comes and he wants to begin,

780
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: but John Tyler's food is not here. Do we have

781
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: to start at the same time, a typical larryism.

782
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: When that started in rewatching it, I knew it was over.

783
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 3: The lunch would end shortly because when Larry says something

784
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: negative to somebody, it's only gonna build. Yeah, because usually

785
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 3: it's curious, but this is curious mixed with anger. Keep going.

786
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: So that scene has ended, and then we're in the

787
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: waiting room again of the shrink when you know that

788
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: Larry is gonna try to terminate and Rob comes out.

789
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: This shrink only has Rob Lewis and Larry's.

790
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 3: By the way, did you notice they switched times?

791
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: Switch time?

792
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: That happens on occasion.

793
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: Rob comes out, what's happened? And Larry's like, I tried

794
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: to be affable. That's such a Larry thing. I tried

795
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: to be affable. I tried to be today I felt pressure.

796
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: And Rob's like, didn't you read any of the literature?

797
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: And you start eating.

798
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: Old I wait, Larry says, I find that stuff depressing.

799
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I find that stuff depressing.

800
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 3: And then also he says to him, well, you know,

801
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 3: Dick Grote, you know there's short stuff for the pirates,

802
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 3: and he said, what are you doing? Grit Groat The

803
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 3: name's not named after him. He goes, lou Garrick has a.

804
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: Disease, and he's right about that. He does have a

805
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: disease or did.

806
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: And then you start eating and says Rob starts going

807
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 1: through the litany of everything that Larry did wrong and says,

808
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: the guy's going to cancel the check because he had

809
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: such a miserable time, and he says the only way

810
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: that he could, and robs us, you need to get

811
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: more involved with groats.

812
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: Well, hold on, there's a term. So Larry does ask,

813
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 3: because I'm watching this now, I'm going, why isn't he

814
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: asking can I write a check to get it?

815
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: He did ask no, So he did ask.

816
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: That, but it was a while. And the thing that

817
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 3: Rob Reiner said that I wrote down, which God bless

818
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: him for improvising this. Larry, that's not the point.

819
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 6: It's not just giving money. It's it's it's it's getting involved,

820
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 6: you know, in groats.

821
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: It's being you know, groats active.

822
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: You need to start being more groats active. I was

823
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: the phrase he youth, and I was just like, you know, man.

824
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: He talks him into doing a talent show for the

825
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: Groat people with groats for hosting a talent show, and.

826
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 4: Then you know at that moment of a Curbs fan

827
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 4: that's going to be hell, hell, hell, hell, hell hell.

828
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 3: By the way, it's all it's like, it's like I've

829
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 3: mentioned before, Nat Hiken, I have to always explain enough

830
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 3: to explain to you. Richard Nett I can, by the way,

831
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: for those you are listening and havn't listened to. He's

832
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 3: a chargeant bill Coe tarfifty four two of my favorite things,

833
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 3: And he's the only writer that Larry resembles because they

834
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 3: start like they do those domino things on.

835
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: The Puszic shows.

836
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 3: You know where you hit the domino and it goes

837
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 3: in different directions and then it meets together at the end.

838
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: That's how Nat Hiken wrote, and that's how Larry David wrote.

839
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: I'll traz lead to the moment.

840
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: That everything in the script, in the episode, in the

841
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: filming of it has to be pushing the story forward, right,

842
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: So it's not just funny for fun He's saying, it

843
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: has to be moved. It's all story has to be

844
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: moving the story forward. So Larry agrees that he's going

845
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: to do the Growths Talent Show, and then the shrink

846
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: interrupts and Larry sits down and has big news. I

847
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: think I'm all better, which the epiphany.

848
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: Epiphany, and then I think, maybe for the first time

849
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: ever in this scene, he says.

850
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 5: I'm feeling pretty good, pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty good.

851
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: Pretty pretty pretty good.

852
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: Now, Anna asked, I think so too, And Anna asked,

853
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: where where did that come from?

854
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: Was that a Larry thing before that, pretty pritchard?

855
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: Have you ever heard him say that?

856
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: Did that become a curb thing?

857
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: I think he just improvised it in the moment. You know,

858
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: he didn't plan to say that, right, None of us

859
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 3: plan except for someone who's on the score. Okay, but yeah,

860
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 3: you're there, our only planner. You don't do it anymore.

861
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: But remember you put an index card like by the

862
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 3: salt shaker if Larry and I having lunch, and then

863
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: Larry or I right before they said speed, so we

864
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 3: knew we pulled the card away and used to get

865
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 3: some mesas. But you were brilliant, so we didn't watch twice.

866
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 4: I wanted to come to you once or twice.

867
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: One you're talking to baby. Yes, so all right, so Larry,

868
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: so the shrink says to Larry says.

869
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 4: The promenade, let me just say I said this before

870
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 4: in person. My my rationale for having a couple of

871
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 4: things in my head before the seat that I would

872
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 4: say to myself. Ge Larry wrote this story five six months.

873
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 4: He's been ruminating about it. How could he? He's not

874
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 4: going to stop thorts from coming through his head. I

875
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 4: deserve a couple of that lids in my head dissertation.

876
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 3: Before, by the way, they should be in his head.

877
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 3: And I also want to say, though I've been guilty

878
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 3: of it. When you prep a line that you're going

879
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: to say, unless you think of it in the beat before,

880
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: it's never going to work.

881
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: I never prep a line, but I'll have things in

882
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: my head.

883
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: Well, your performance is really.

884
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: About things in my head, then, David or not.

885
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: She is different in every take except for one moment,

886
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 3: the get out when you tell her to get out.

887
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 3: That is a consistency. And we just filmed one the

888
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 3: other day and Larry laughs as hard as he ever did.

889
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: But that when you do, let her perfect every single time.

890
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: But but there are things that I when I read

891
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: the outline, the stuff that goes on, you know what

892
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: I mean. But whatever, So Larry says, I'm the terminator,

893
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: and the shrink says, was at the beach, Larry, and.

894
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: You know the way he says it.

895
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: He knows, he knows.

896
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: Larry doesn't pick up on it, but he knows.

897
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: And Larry lies, I didn't go to the beach, which

898
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 1: is you know, that's the first mistake because he doesn't

899
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: know that he didn't turn at an inadvertent moment and

900
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: see Larry when he didn't see if he doesn't know

901
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: any of this something with my wife and the shrink

902
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: looks very very suspicious, And Larry's, oh, I could come

903
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: back into amity.

904
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 3: If you'll have me, If you'll have I like to

905
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: come back intermittently, if you'll have me.

906
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 4: And then.

907
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: He says I'd like to get a refresher course every

908
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: once in a while.

909
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: And the strike says, you seem agitated. What about the

910
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: Jason Alexander Risher? Do you see magestated? No? And Larry says,

911
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: you're seeing a bullion us.

912
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 3: By the way, how about this one? Yes, I'm sad

913
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 3: and frustrated by it. If you bring up the Holocaust

914
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 3: right now, what kind of reaction are you going to see?

915
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 3: Which is a great line.

916
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: And then Larry says, I'm a hammock, just gently flowing

917
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: in the police, and you're such a good therapist that

918
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 2: you're a victim of your own talents and skills. He

919
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: tells the guy, and then the spring says, I know

920
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: you were at the beach, Larry, So it has nothing

921
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 2: to do with the thong.

922
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, Larry died in that moment. He was dead, and

923
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: he was dead and it was so wonderful to watch.

924
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 2: And then he walks out and who's in the waiting

925
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: room Richard? Richard Richard, and Larry's like, he's on to us.

926
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: He knows about the thong, and that Larry figures that

927
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: John Tyler told Rob because we didn't mention Larry told

928
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: John Tyler and the lunch about the thong.

929
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: No, but he figures out right the puzzle. How did

930
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 3: he know? Told John Tyler?

931
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: Who told Rob Reiner, who take Rob told the therapist, Yes,

932
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: what happened?

933
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 3: How do you? How do you add it?

934
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 4: Are you out of it?

935
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: I'm out? I'm out?

936
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 5: Yeah?

937
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: How I told him? I told him? I was I

938
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: was happy, and I didn't need you told him what

939
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 3: I told him.

940
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 6: I was happy.

941
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 2: That's what I'm telling him. How can you steal my germination,

942
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: your determination?

943
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 3: I didn't know you were going to sing you a

944
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 3: I mean, we never discussed that. Am I going to

945
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 3: leave a short?

946
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 4: I'm miserable, I'm suicidal, I want to leave.

947
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: I don't know what am I gonna do? Tell him?

948
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 2: Tell him you're a scientologist or something. Mat could you

949
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: steal my termination?

950
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 4: I was instantaneously in the panic mode, like the IOG.

951
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 3: It was so beautiful, Richard. It was so beautiful and

952
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: completely believable that that would.

953
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 2: Be dealing my termination. It's hilarious.

954
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: And then Larry says, tell him you're a scientologist. Where

955
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: the fuck he got that one from?

956
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: I don't know.

957
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 4: I'm a therapy person, I think. Instead, he tells me

958
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 4: to watch that movie Battle.

959
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 3: Hold On, hold On, Richard, you saying the first line

960
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: and people might not notice it. Where did you get

961
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: that fabric? You're feeling his shirt questioning.

962
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: The fatal let me because the shrink comes out. Yeah,

963
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: to pretend so that that's when you win.

964
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 3: By the way, the Battlestar Galactica came from I suggested

965
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 3: it because there was a movie with John Travolta that

966
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: was a scientologist movie. Everyone is it's all scientology, big

967
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: sci fi movie, huge bomb, And so Larry was trying

968
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 3: to do a reference for think of the movie, and

969
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: I said to Larry, just say Battlestar Galactic. Yeah, it'll work,

970
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 3: Battlestar Galactica.

971
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 2: Battlestar Galactic.

972
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: It was. There were two versions. There was one in

973
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 3: the seventies with Lauren Green ANBC I believe, and then

974
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: there was one on I believe the Sci Fi Channel

975
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 3: that was scary as can be with Edward James almost

976
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 3: and it was so it was every episode. I had

977
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 3: to shake it off there just.

978
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 4: When you just talking about the Battlestar thing. There's a

979
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 4: beautiful thread from the beginning of this series to through

980
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 4: now that Larry, as much affection as we have for

981
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 4: each other, he'll always do like this and now live

982
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 4: directed towards me. That's sort of a negative like, oh,

983
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 4: you're gonna watch that piece of crap or you're gonna

984
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 4: and I have to defend myself and say what you

985
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 4: talk me about. I mean, he's always putting me on

986
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 4: the defensive, which a.

987
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: Very judgmental of you.

988
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 4: That's that's the way anybody on the show.

989
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: Yes, and then we cut to the Talent show and

990
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 1: Larry's show. What does he say the groats laboratories cure

991
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: for bald.

992
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 3: And then he sort of does the whole thing about

993
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: enthusiasm with baldness, and then he closed out with his

994
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: professor of vice.

995
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 5: So watch out, bald people, your day's coming.

996
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: Don't give up hope. Keep op alive. You must keep

997
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 3: hope alive, bald people, keep your hope up. Bald men,

998
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 3: everywhere the groats people are gonna take care. They cut

999
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: to the audience and they're all in disbelief, like what

1000
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 3: is he talking about?

1001
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: And then he brings out Melanie Tyler, who is the

1002
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: niece of John Tyler, and she starts playing the what

1003
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: is she playing for?

1004
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: Delise? I think she's getting.

1005
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 4: Tyler in the ording right away? The oriente is.

1006
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: Here we go and she starts all of a sudden,

1007
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: freaking out and playing really fast. And Larry feels as

1008
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: though he's standing in the back with Bob Whitey next

1009
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: to him, one of our directors of the show, and

1010
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: he feels that he has to go out and save again.

1011
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: No good deed goes unpunished. That's his mind right away.

1012
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: Tries to do a good things.

1013
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 3: He should say to my say to himself, how am

1014
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 3: I helping things by going out and getting her, let

1015
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: her play fast, let her freaking rails, that's none of

1016
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 3: my concern. Instead, he doesn't take a beat to consider,

1017
00:46:52,040 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 3: and he runs out.

1018
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: And once again a physical altercation.

1019
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 3: Before that, he goes, how about I forget her name?

1020
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: How about?

1021
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 3: And a big applause comes, And if it was just

1022
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: that and she kept playing, he also could go all right,

1023
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna step back. So he had an opportunity, no

1024
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 3: cereba and.

1025
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: A physical altercation, which he he loves, the physical altar.

1026
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: I've had them with him. I don't think you ever have, Jeff,

1027
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: have you who you and.

1028
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 2: Larry had a physical and Lewis has had many.

1029
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 3: No, And as a matter of fact, our moments are

1030
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 3: unique to us and not how he treats other characters.

1031
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 3: The one time we tried it, which I'll talk about

1032
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 3: later on, but I'll say right now, we tried one

1033
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 3: of the eye things, you know, the long staring eye things.

1034
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it didn't.

1035
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 3: Work so fucking hard because the way I look at

1036
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: and we discussed it, we both know with the other

1037
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: one's line, there's not a moment where you go because

1038
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 3: we say, we say to each other, you're full of shit.

1039
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 4: You know what.

1040
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting. I've only had one of those

1041
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 2: with him, only one in all the years.

1042
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 3: Is naturally funny because we know that you're thinking he's full.

1043
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: Of I always full.

1044
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: And then the episode ends and there we are with

1045
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: the Thong, directed by Jeff Garless, starring Richard Lewis.

1046
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 3: I was so honored. I never did it again on

1047
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: the show, but I was so honored to be able

1048
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 3: to do that, you know, And I said to Larry,

1049
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 3: I know it wasn't easy for you. He doesn't like

1050
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 3: being directed by a cast mate. All the directors are separate,

1051
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 3: separate things. And I said, I know how hard it

1052
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 3: was for you, and I can't tell you how much

1053
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: I thank you. I so appreciate it. Yeah that's the

1054
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 3: really Yeah, sure good. And by the way he meant it,

1055
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 3: he was happy that I.

1056
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: Said that, but he's not you know, A buillion and.

1057
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 4: One and maybe just see you it and show lines.

1058
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 4: That's it with all twenty two years, that's what being there.

1059
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 4: It's passion member directing other than you're in show.

1060
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 3: Susie came early on.

1061
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: No, No, He's asking directing. Cheryl directed one episode she

1062
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: did later on season nine.

1063
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 2: I believe.

1064
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 3: But that being said, she was not in.

1065
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 2: That episode that season. She wasn't.

1066
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: But was there anybody else? I think you're right, Lewis.

1067
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: Is nobody else?

1068
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 3: No, no one else.

1069
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: That's it And it only happened twice.

1070
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 3: Can I say for the record, I had to bother

1071
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: him and bother him and bother him. And I'm sure

1072
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: Shell said Larry I wanted to and he said, okay,

1073
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, I sure she didn't have to

1074
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 3: work hard at all, because she's hard to say no to.

1075
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 3: She's so adorable.

1076
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: It has been our great thrill and pleasure, jes to

1077
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: have Richard Lewis as our guest today.

1078
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 4: There was a pleasure.

1079
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 3: Anytime spent with you is a time well spent.

1080
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 2: And we're going to spend a lot of time together

1081
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: very soon.

1082
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: And by the way, I want to add this, he's

1083
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 3: one of the people that when I'm shooting a scene

1084
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 3: with him, inside my mind I go, wow, I'm doing

1085
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 3: a scene with Richard. Because you have to understand, I

1086
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: watched him.

1087
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,959
Speaker 2: For years before I became.

1088
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 3: A comedian, and I was like, what is this guy?

1089
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: Who is this guy? He's amazing? And then remember, Richard,

1090
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 3: I told you what was the name of the Diary

1091
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 3: of a Comedian? Was that the name of the film?

1092
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 3: Diver Young Comic and get this, so.

1093
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: Tell them what Diary of a Young Comic is?

1094
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 4: Tell you? And a half movie.

1095
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: Said, yes, Saturday Night Live wasn't out, I mean, didn't

1096
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: do an episode that week, and replacing it all across

1097
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 3: the country was a movie about a comedian starring Richard Lewis,

1098
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: and I thought, and you were great in that because

1099
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 3: it was funny, but it was so dramatic, and I went,

1100
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Speaker 3: this is the guy. So to this day I appreciate it.

1101
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: And Lewis, what's Lewis? What's our beef? Yours and mine?

1102
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: We have never in all of these seasons had a

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00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: scene together. We've had scenes party, but we've never had

1104
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: an interaction with each there.

1105
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but the different party, we uhould throw the

1106
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 4: ball that U was toured together, and we're oh.

1107
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 3: And we tour together, Susie, Richard and myself.

1108
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 4: And Leon Leon on occasion, and then Leon we call

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00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 4: I don't know it doesn't remember, we call Larry the

1110
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 4: Hog because we never had a scene together ever. But

1111
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 4: it's so, you know what, there's no complaints. And I

1112
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 4: talked to me to praise like that, but I will

1113
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 4: and I we love.

1114
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: You, Richard, we love you, and we're going to see

1115
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: you shooting very soon because we're past the audience.

1116
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 3: Also want to add, when I tell the number one

1117
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 3: thing that people ask me when I tell them we're

1118
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 3: shooting another season is Richard.

1119
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: Is Richard in it? I get asked that one is.

1120
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 4: Richard in A couple of surveys. Knocked me out for

1121
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 4: much of the last season.

1122
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: But I'm back now, so it's pretty back, baby, stronger way.

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00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: It's still a big ball of handsome. We've talked about

1124
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 3: in these episodes.

1125
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 4: How handsome you are on the page. Shut up, all right,

1126
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Speaker 4: I rememb turned this computer. Who does I don't want

1127
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 4: to do. I don't want to reject.

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Speaker 2: You don't worry about in your life.

1129
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 3: You need to do what you do on phone conversations.

1130
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 3: You say something funny and then you think, so anytime.

1131
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 4: I stole that from down to show him.

1132
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 3: You see, he's gone.

1133
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 4: He's gone.

1134
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 3: That's what he does. You're talking to you, I know,

1135
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 3: and it'll say something really funny that kills you, and

1136
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 3: then he's gone and we're gone.

1137
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 2: This episode is over, and we'll see you.

1138
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Speaker 3: Next time, I'm gonna be abrasive and not say anything

1139
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 3: even though I just said something. Bye, thank you.

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