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Speaker 1: O La La Loka Motes. Welcome to season eight of

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Speaker 1: Loka Dora Radio.

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Speaker 2: I'm Diosa and I'm Mala.

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Speaker 1: You're tuning into Capitolos one seventy two.

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Speaker 2: Last time on lokat to our Radio, we interviewed Jade

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Speaker 2: Richard Craven about her journey to becoming a screenwriter and filmmaker.

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Speaker 2: Tune into that episode, leave us a review and share

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Speaker 2: with your primas.

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Speaker 1: Today we're airing the live recording from Mike Utura's two

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Speaker 1: year anniversary live show at the iHeart Theater in Burbank.

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Speaker 2: This show was so much fun, and if you missed

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Speaker 2: the live event or the streaming event, this is your

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Speaker 2: way to catch up and hear about how we've been

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Speaker 2: podcasting through it all the way through our twenties, through

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Speaker 2: our indie era, and into our network era. So we

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Speaker 2: hope you enjoy it.

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Speaker 3: Has been such a journey and it's so exciting to

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Speaker 3: officially document this journey on the audio archive that is

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Speaker 3: Loka Dora Radio.

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Speaker 1: So we hope that you love it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're gonna start off the night with your Pretty

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Speaker 2: Mon's Favorite Podcast. You guys know who that is, Your

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Speaker 2: Prettia Mon's Favorite Podcast. Loca to Radio. Shout out to

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Speaker 2: Mala and Giosa, owing us keep it going for DJ

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Speaker 2: let Shadow everybody our hosts and makes some noise for

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Speaker 2: DJ Sizzle. She's ready for the renaissance tour. Hey, beautiful,

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Speaker 2: how I feel it tonight? Yes, thank you for joining

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Speaker 2: us tonight for the two year anniversary of the Michael

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Speaker 2: Podcast Network here in the beautiful city of BURBANKNY.

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Speaker 4: So quickly, should we introduce herself?

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: So I'm Theosa and I'm Mala, and we are the

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Speaker 3: hosts of Loka Tora Radio and Loka.

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Speaker 2: Tora Radio is a radiophonic novela, which is a really

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Speaker 2: extra way of saying a podcast. We are podcasters. We

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Speaker 2: have been podcasting since twenty sixteen, and we're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: to you guys about our podcasting journey, podcasting through our

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Speaker 2: twenties podcasting, through our indie era, podcasting through the pandemic,

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Speaker 5: So let's start from the beginning.

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Speaker 2: Let's start.

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Speaker 3: So it was twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, and I started

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Speaker 3: following you on Twitter and Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we followed each other and even though we're both

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Speaker 2: we never met each other. We were just mutuals on Twitter, Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Do you also was doing like modeling for a local boutique,

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Speaker 2: and I was so drawn to her right away because

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, she's so beautiful. Look at her,

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so we met in real life finally at

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Speaker 5: We didn't know it yet.

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Speaker 3: And so we met at this Latina like powerhouse meeting.

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Speaker 2: So we go and just like women do, we become

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Speaker 5: Really, the Mommy Collective was just going out and dancing.

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Speaker 5: And at some point, you know, we're party friends. We're

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Speaker 5: Listening to our podcast, I mean, what.

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Speaker 2: We started podcasting and we did it at a very well.

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Speaker 2: And we recorded at a clothing boutique in Highland Park

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Speaker 2: And for years actually we would get comments love them,

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Speaker 3: And you know, we call ourselves a radiophonic novela because

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Speaker 3: like Della novelas, our community loves novella's right, and they're

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Speaker 3: We've seen our listeners grow up with us. We've seen

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Speaker 2: Like we're living our own novelas. At the time, we were,

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Speaker 2: arc of our own lives. We were working in nonprofits,

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Speaker 2: My my ex boyfriend made our first jingle.

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Speaker 5: Yes, so like you know fact, true story. We had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't need you anymore, sir. We have a

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Speaker 5: It was a hob yeah for our friends and we were.

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Speaker 3: Id eighting our first meeting, we took Lamnaga in Boyle Heights.

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Speaker 2: We recorded at Espasio eighteen thirty nine. Yes, er second,

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Speaker 2: So important, right, a free community radio station with a

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Speaker 2: So we did our first show and we called it

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Speaker 2: Loka thought our Live a Podcast Party. And we didn't

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Speaker 2: our very first Look. I thought our live a Podcast party.

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Speaker 2: special guests. They're going to be here tonight. Give it

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Speaker 2: up for them. Yes, super Secret Bestie Club, DJ, Sizzle

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Speaker 5: Which is now we're podcasting full.

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Speaker 2: like there wasn't movement, but we kept we kept putting

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Speaker 2: out episodes, kept putting out episodes. And I think that's

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Speaker 2: been key too, is even when you're not getting the

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Speaker 2: validation and you're not getting booked and you're not getting outreached,

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Speaker 2: and you're not getting written about. Is continuing regardless, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Think that's you know, we started teaching workshops.

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Speaker 3: We started teaching people how to create their own podcasts,

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Speaker 3: right because podcasting, if you have a phone, you have

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Speaker 3: a recorder, right, you have a recording device. So anyone

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Speaker 3: really in here could make a podcast. But it's really

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Speaker 3: hard to keep it going, which is why you see

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Speaker 3: a lot of people start and then they stop because

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Speaker 3: it's so much work.

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Speaker 5: And I think the consistency in.

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Speaker 3: Whatever project that you have is really valuable, really important,

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Speaker 3: because you don't know.

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Speaker 5: What doors are going to open in the future.

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Speaker 2: And I think too, it's also been about we're very

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Speaker 2: different our energies, our creativities and what we bring to

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Speaker 2: the table, and that difference in style has I think

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Speaker 2: also helped to keep the project running and keep things fresh.

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Speaker 2: You know, we work really well together, and we weren't

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Speaker 2: planning on working together when we first started working together.

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Speaker 2: You know, it just worked out that way.

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Speaker 3: We did not create a partnership agreement until twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: I do not recommend that we have obviously been amazing friends.

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Speaker 3: You know, really close and great business partners, but you

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Speaker 3: never know, right, And so the fact that we didn't

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Speaker 3: sign anything official until twenty twenty one, I think is incredible.

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Speaker 3: Give it up for us, Yeah, shout out us, Mallow.

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Speaker 3: What is your favorite thing about me?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, there are so many things to love

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Speaker 2: about you. I mean, I will say this, and I've

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Speaker 2: been saying this for years. THEOSA is really like the

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Speaker 2: heart and the engine of Look At Thought our radio.

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Speaker 2: She keeps us going, and she keeps us on schedule.

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Speaker 2: She keeps me on schedule, She keeps us organized. She

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Speaker 2: went to grad school to further study her craft as

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Speaker 2: a podcaster and has brought just a level of technique

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Speaker 2: and skill and professionalism to the show that allows us

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Speaker 2: to put out episodes every week on time of high quality.

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Speaker 2: And I love you for that. Yeahk, you give it up.

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Speaker 3: Give it up for the asa that was not scripted, y'all? Okay,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I love you. And one of my favorite

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Speaker 3: things about Mala is her creativity, her humor, her witch.

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Speaker 3: She brings the fun, energy, the really smart things.

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Speaker 5: Also to the podcast.

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Speaker 3: We started creating visuals with the podcast, so around season four,

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Speaker 3: I believe we started doing video trailers that announce each season,

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Speaker 3: and those are creative directed by Mala, those are written

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Speaker 3: by Mala, and it keeps that freshness to the podcast

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Speaker 3: and it allows us, I think, to shine in our

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Speaker 3: own ways. While I may be audio heavy and focused

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Speaker 3: and like let's keep it going, Mala is like thinking

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Speaker 3: over here, like how are we gonna make this beautiful?

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Speaker 5: And how are we gonna make this bigger?

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Speaker 2: And we actually filmed, we made a short film, like

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Speaker 2: an eight minute short film.

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Speaker 4: What year was that, twenty ninety.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called It's really cute, you guys. You have

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Speaker 2: to see it. It's on YouTube. It's called Lokitha's anonymous.

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Speaker 2: Also to pause, I want.

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Speaker 3: To shout out Valerie Ramidez a wider beauty collective because

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Speaker 3: she's here in the front row and she's my nail artist,

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Speaker 3: and she allowed us to film our film at this

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Speaker 3: at her studio, at her salon, which, as you know,

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Speaker 3: as indie creators like to you don't you have a

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Speaker 3: small budget and location studios can take all of it.

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Speaker 3: And she just offered her space to us and so

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Speaker 3: we filmed there.

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Speaker 4: So what you see on the film is wittier beauty collective.

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Speaker 2: Yes, check it out, check it out, and again a

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Speaker 2: testament to like the community and our community like business owners.

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Speaker 2: Letting us record in their space and film in their

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Speaker 2: space and make art in their space is so important.

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Speaker 2: It's so huge. And without folks like Valerie and without

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Speaker 2: Nico and marat Espacio eighteen thirty nine, it can be

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Speaker 2: so hard for indie Latino creatives to get space, to

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Speaker 2: afford the space to make the work. So yeah, just

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Speaker 2: thank you, thank you again, and hell yeah, and the film.

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Speaker 5: Was created and written by you.

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Speaker 3: So I know we're wrapping up soon, but like, let's

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Speaker 3: give them a little synopsis of the film.

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Speaker 4: Because we're not just a podcast.

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Speaker 5: We also film, We do some writing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so you know, a lot a lot of podcasts

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Speaker 2: these days are on camera, are on video. But we

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Speaker 2: always liked pairing our podcast with like scripted shorts and

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Speaker 2: like playing with genre. So Lookitho's Anonymous is an eight

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Speaker 2: minute science fiction film and it's based in like a

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Speaker 2: near future tech apocalypse that we call the patreon apocalypse,

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Speaker 2: right brought on by the patriarchy. And so it follows

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Speaker 2: these two radio hosts who host a pirate radio station

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Speaker 2: called Radio Loca, and it's housed in the basement of

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Speaker 2: a nail salon called Madre and Nails because co madre

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Speaker 2: looks a lot like the word comrade, you know, and

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Speaker 2: a madre really is a comrade if you think about it.

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Speaker 2: And that's how we think about ourselves and our co

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Speaker 2: madres as like comrades in the struggle.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: And and then after that we did more scripted shorts,

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Speaker 2: like for our season seven we did like we built

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Speaker 2: like a fake lemonade stand and we were like selling lemonade,

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Speaker 2: you know, to fund the podcast, to fund the podcast.

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Speaker 2: And then when we launched with Michael Tura, our scripted

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Speaker 2: short was like us recording out of Josa's house and

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Speaker 2: aliens come down to get us, and it's the Michaultura

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Speaker 2: network beaming us up, you know, take us to your nail,

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Speaker 2: take us to your network. So we have fun with it.

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Speaker 2: We have fun with it, and we're gonna keep having

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Speaker 2: fun with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think like, no matter the genre that

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Speaker 3: you're in, like, keep it innovative, keep it pushing. Like

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Speaker 3: just because we're audio first, like does and mean we're

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Speaker 3: limited to that. We can also create visual trailers, we

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Speaker 3: can create parties, we can do workshops.

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Speaker 4: It's not just the audio, and I think that that

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Speaker 4: is what's kept.

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Speaker 3: Us really rooted in community because we have meeting with

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Speaker 3: our listeners has been like they have been the ones,

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Speaker 3: y'all have been the ones that have pushed us to

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Speaker 3: do more. Right when we've started back in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 3: we were just going to be a once a month's show.

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Speaker 4: That was our idea.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we can do this once a month. We have

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Speaker 3: full time jobs. And look at us now we're with

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Speaker 3: Michael Dura.

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Speaker 2: We're network girlies. Yes, And I want to thank Michael

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Speaker 2: Dura because now not only are we network gurlies behind you,

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Speaker 2: we have health insurance yes okay, yes we do.

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Speaker 4: We have a real budget now.

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Speaker 3: So thank all of you for being such great sports tonight,

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Speaker 3: for being just incredible. We're so happy, We're so lucky

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Speaker 3: to be here. It's been seven years in the making

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Speaker 3: and we're just gonna be happier.

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Speaker 2: And happy birthday, Michael Furah, give it up, Give it

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Speaker 2: up for Michael Fura. Loka Radio, a radio fang novela

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Speaker 2: is executive produced and hosted by me Mala Munos and Viosa.

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Speaker 1: Fem story editing by Me Tiosa.

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Speaker 2: Audio editing by Stephanie Franco.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to our locomotives, our listeners for all of

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Speaker 1: your support.