WEBVTT - Happy Half Hour Episode 112: The Search Begins

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<v Speaker 1>All right, welcome once again to a new year's edition

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<v Speaker 1>of Happy Half Hour. Wait did we do a new

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<v Speaker 1>year's edition already?

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<v Speaker 2>What day is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a good question. I know what day it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's day twenty one of the Panthers career of one

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<v Speaker 1>Cassidy G. Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>We all run together at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome friends. I was already old. She has lived a

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<v Speaker 1>lifetime in her first three weeks here with us at

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<v Speaker 1>Panthers dot com and has seen many things. And we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to talk about many things. But welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the first off season edition of the Happy Half Hour.

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<v Speaker 1>There are many more to come. There is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff to talk about. But I feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>just need to put a bow on the season that was,

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<v Speaker 1>and the season that you caught the tail end of,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, really seemed to catch the entire twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three Panthers experience and a little bit of time

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<v Speaker 1>there at once. That was not great. Closing the season

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<v Speaker 1>on two shutout losses was dreadful. But and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean to pick on poor DJ Hark, but the photograph

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<v Speaker 1>that we used on our rapid reactions after that game

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<v Speaker 1>of a forty two yard pass that ended up with

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<v Speaker 1>a goal line fumble. The photograph might have been the

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<v Speaker 1>summation of the Carolina Panthers season as a whole. An

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<v Speaker 1>offense that was supposed to work a certain way. It

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like a great idea at the time, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was this short of being what you thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be, and that was kind of it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you you have to have whiplash CASTI because you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of walk in the door in your first game's at

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<v Speaker 1>Packers game where the ball is going around, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pu pull, you know, and it looks like an actual offense,

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<v Speaker 1>and then to go from that to a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>flat tires was a little bit of a culture shock.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I definitely thought it was going to be one

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<v Speaker 3>thing after that first game on Christmas Eve, and then

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<v Speaker 3>it quickly became something else.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>In defense of dj Hart, my whole life is a

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<v Speaker 3>series of it was supposed to be this and it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't but that, and you know that play too. While

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<v Speaker 3>we're on that play. The more I'll watch it, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot that Djhart could have done differently to keep

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<v Speaker 3>it as a touchdown. That was also an incredible play

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<v Speaker 3>by Anton Whitfield junior.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, and he's made a bunch of those this year.

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<v Speaker 1>He's really good at football. There's nothing and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bucks are going to the playoffs, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth year in a row they're going to the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Third year in a row they've won this trailer park

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<v Speaker 1>of a division. So not to take anything away from

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<v Speaker 1>them in this fine achievement, but yeah, I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just it was a season of unfulfilled expectations. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a season of let downs for what was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be an offensive revolution. So here we are again.

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<v Speaker 3>That last game too, Darren, And I'm curious your opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>It felt like because the Jaguars game, that was just

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<v Speaker 3>a really bad performance and that was also a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of Josh Allen taking advantage of a piece mild line

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<v Speaker 3>and going after Bryce Young a lied in that first half.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Yeah, it really was. I mean, that one got

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<v Speaker 1>away from him and a hurt.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it was just you know, a snowball that

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<v Speaker 3>just kept going.

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<v Speaker 2>This last game.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of the decisions just felt like the mindset was

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<v Speaker 3>don't let Bryce get hurt. And I completely understand that,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it just makes me wonder if like that was,

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<v Speaker 3>even if that was the offensive game plan to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure Bryce didn't get hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. Protecting him was obviously the priority

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<v Speaker 1>that gets more and more difficult, as we've talked about before. Fortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>Gabe Jackson and Nash Jensen were able to get through

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<v Speaker 1>that game unscathed, so that no one else added to

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<v Speaker 1>that long, long, long, long long injury report that included

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<v Speaker 1>seven different players at left guard and eight different right

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<v Speaker 1>guards over the course of the season. And that might

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<v Speaker 1>have a little something to do with Bryce Young being

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<v Speaker 1>sacked sixty two times this year, which ties a franchise

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<v Speaker 1>record set by Steve Berline.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a record do you want to be tied with?

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<v Speaker 1>In the year two thousand? The year two thousand?

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<v Speaker 2>Not a real song? Or did you just make that?

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<v Speaker 1>No? I think it was a bid on a late

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<v Speaker 1>night show. I can't remember which one it was, but

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<v Speaker 1>that is this week's dated pop culture reference, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what it's in reference to. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say it was Conan O'Brien. Okay, Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a late night ConA.

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<v Speaker 3>Think of the Jonas Brothers song Gear three thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>When you say it like.

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<v Speaker 1>That, we are different Ages will give you.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred dollars right now if you can sing me

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<v Speaker 3>a line from the Jonahs brother song Gear three thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I am not going to be getting one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars because I could probably do a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>lines of Hanson's bop. But that's as close to the

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<v Speaker 1>Jonas Brothers as I think I'm getting.

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<v Speaker 3>The Hanson Brothers or Hanson Walks the Honest Brothers could rune.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. I was of the age

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<v Speaker 1>where I remember when those kids were still kids. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>where were we We were talking about football and all

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<v Speaker 1>the things that went wrong, and that's you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking Jonas Brothers and Hanson, that's probably as good

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<v Speaker 1>a transition as anything else. To say, let's not talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that anymore. The Carolina Panthers are in searches again.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew they were going to be looking for a

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<v Speaker 1>new coach after Frank Reich was fired eleven games into

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<v Speaker 1>the year. Now they're looking for a new general manager.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Fitter was let go on Monday. That that was

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<v Speaker 1>a transition that I think a lot of people probably

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<v Speaker 1>expected simply based on the record, and there are books

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<v Speaker 1>to be written about the way decisions got made, fault

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<v Speaker 1>being distributed, and all those kind of things, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a time for that to come. The

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I would say about Scott is he was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of brought in as a collaborator, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>brought in as someone who could work with Matt Ruhle.

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<v Speaker 1>He was brought in as someone who could work alongside

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<v Speaker 1>a coaching staff. And I do think that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that Scott's probably getting beat up for

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<v Speaker 1>out there in the public, you know, with a more

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<v Speaker 1>critical viewing of the situation, people might realize that not

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things were strictly one person's fault. They

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<v Speaker 1>were people trying to come up with organizational decisions and

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<v Speaker 1>when you go through coaches, you know at the pace

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<v Speaker 1>they have lately, and again, you can say what you

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<v Speaker 1>want about those any of those decisions, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think anybody's arguing that you needed to make changes on

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<v Speaker 1>the coaching staff with the way the offense turned out

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<v Speaker 1>to be this year. But now that they're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>a general manager, the one thing that I think is

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<v Speaker 1>a positive out of all this is you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have a coach and a GM on the same timeline,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that is probably helpful in this situation

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<v Speaker 1>because the priorities are going to be clear for those

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<v Speaker 1>two gentlemen or women. It's twenty twenty four, it could

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<v Speaker 1>be a woman. I suppose I'll do it. Sure, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, me and you coach and GM, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>knock this thing out. I think I'd rather be GM GM. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We can discuss divisional abor later. But I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>important for those two people to kind of be on

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<v Speaker 1>the same timeline because anytime there's any lack of alignment

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of this person's priority versus this person's priority,

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<v Speaker 1>you set yourself up to be in these weird gray

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<v Speaker 1>areas where you know, what should this person be doing

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<v Speaker 1>at any given point. Are they trying to please a

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<v Speaker 1>new guy or hang on to their job. Those kind

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<v Speaker 1>of things always become sort of gray areas, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just think this takes it away. This is the first

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<v Speaker 1>time the Panthers have been in this situation since two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and two, when they were coming off a one

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<v Speaker 1>in fifteen season with George Seaffert, and they installed Marty

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<v Speaker 1>Hernie and John Fox into those two jobs. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think history is probably kinder to both of those gentlemen

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<v Speaker 1>than there present was for him at the time. I

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<v Speaker 1>think both of them took a lot of criticism, but

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<v Speaker 1>in hindsight, you know, John Fox wanted to turn this

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<v Speaker 1>into a tough and smart football team, and in a

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<v Speaker 1>short amount of time he took a one in fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>that was thirty first in the league in total defense,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were second in the league in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and two, and the year after that they were in

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. So I think time will tell us

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<v Speaker 1>that that was a pretty amazing run that those two

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<v Speaker 1>guys put together. And really, if you think about from

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<v Speaker 1>three to five, that was as good a team as

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<v Speaker 1>there was in the NFC. That was when Philadelphia was

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<v Speaker 1>on another bit of a run, if not for Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Smith being injured in the opener in four and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of blowing the wheels off of that season. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the three year window where it was as good as

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<v Speaker 1>it gets around here. I mean, Cam Newton certainly got

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<v Speaker 1>them all to run with the fifteen to one season

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty fifteen, but in terms of you know, consistent,

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<v Speaker 1>stable success, that was sort of the benchmark, and those

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<v Speaker 1>two guys sharing a vision and working together help put

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<v Speaker 1>that together. So you can go to Panthers dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>We have handy trackers to show you who has been

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<v Speaker 1>requested to interview for this job. I think it's reasonable

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<v Speaker 1>to imagine that interviews are going to start very very soon.

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<v Speaker 1>And the one thing Cas you mentioned in looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the list, there are a lot of different types of

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<v Speaker 1>people on both of these lists, and I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you just kind of go down and look at those trackers,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see this is not a search that is

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<v Speaker 1>isolated on any one particular thing. They're still casting a

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<v Speaker 1>wide net, and I think it's reasonable to suggest that

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<v Speaker 1>that those searches are both going to expand there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be names not on that tracker who get in for

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<v Speaker 1>these jobs. So we're still two three days into this

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<v Speaker 1>process that's going to grow. But when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>those list of names, what jumped out at you?

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<v Speaker 3>I think the thing that jumped out at me the

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<v Speaker 3>most was a lot of offensive guys, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>offensive coordinators, offensive coordinators of young quarterbacks other than maybe

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Johnson, who you know, is kind of revitalized Jared

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<v Speaker 3>Goff's career, who was not young, but you know, still

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most dynamic offenses in the NFL right now.

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<v Speaker 3>But a lot of guys that have worked with young

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<v Speaker 3>high draft pick quarterbacks who maybe still need some tinkering,

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<v Speaker 3>needs some tooling, and you know, have figured out how

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of let them be who they are as

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<v Speaker 3>quarterbacks and not force them into a system, but rather

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<v Speaker 3>build a system around them. I think that's really really

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<v Speaker 3>important for a young quarterback like Bryce. The defensive guys

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<v Speaker 3>that are on the list, I'm looking at two of

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<v Speaker 3>them at least have been guys that have previous head

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<v Speaker 3>coaching experiences, and that can be crucial. You know, you

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<v Speaker 3>look at their head coaching experiences and go, okay, well

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<v Speaker 3>why are they coordinators right now? They were fired as

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<v Speaker 3>a head coach, But you learn a lot from what

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<v Speaker 3>you did wrong, and a lot of times you see

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<v Speaker 3>those guys on their second cycle around the head coaching

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<v Speaker 3>carousel really have sort of figured things out. Dan Quinn

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<v Speaker 3>was was not a bad head coach. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Quinn won a whole bunch of games in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>and got them to a Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt Ryan to a Super Bowl, and well he was

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<v Speaker 3>more of a defensive do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Had that go, weren't they up big in that game

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<v Speaker 1>at one point something.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was like a twenty one point.

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<v Speaker 1>Who can go? Who can even who can even remember Dan?

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean to your point, Dan Quinn Rahee Morris

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<v Speaker 1>experienced NFL head coaches already. Mike McDonald from the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>is the other defensive guy on that list as we

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<v Speaker 1>have it right now, the other six being offensive coordinators.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think based on the way last year's search

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<v Speaker 1>went and what they were looking for, that's not a surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>And just run down the names in case you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>visited Panthers dot com to read this tracker, which I

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<v Speaker 1>know anybody who's listening to this podcast already has. But

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<v Speaker 1>you got Ben Johnson, Bobby Slowick, Brian Callahan from Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>Frank Smith from Miami, Todd Monkin in Baltimore, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Canalis from Tampa Bay. Those are the other six

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<v Speaker 1>candidates for the head coaching job at the moment, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, again to no one's surprise, they're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>someone to create an offense around Bryce Young, and each

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys have different claims to it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Monkin is kind of the senior candidate among that group.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you look at the job he's done both

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<v Speaker 1>at Georgia as a coordinator and then in Baltimore this

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<v Speaker 1>year with Lamar Jackson, he's kind of made himself a

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<v Speaker 1>candidate for a whole lot of jobs.

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<v Speaker 3>Something I do want to add, though, to is you

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<v Speaker 3>know everybody right now wants a piece of that Shanahan Try.

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<v Speaker 3>And there are some guys on there that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>even if not direct branches, they may be like an

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<v Speaker 3>acorn off the Shanna hen Try.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the names Dan Quinn and Raheem Morris are

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<v Speaker 3>interesting in stand out though, are because it's so easy

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<v Speaker 3>to look at what a coordinator has done. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>not to say any of these guys would be bad

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<v Speaker 3>head coaches. We don't know, but it's so easy to

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<v Speaker 3>look at what a coordinator has done and look at

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback stats and go, that's great. I want that

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<v Speaker 3>for my team. Being a head coach is a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more than just calling plays, and more and more head

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<v Speaker 3>coaches are calling their own place, but it's about being

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<v Speaker 3>like kind of a CEO of the whole building. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not quite as much in the NFL as it is

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<v Speaker 3>in college because you have a GM. You have a president,

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<v Speaker 3>but you're still in charge of an entire locker room.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look at what like you look at what

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Taber has done here the last few weeks, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he's a special teams coordinator. He's not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be out there calling the place for Bryce Young,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's done a really, really hard job, which is

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<v Speaker 3>keep a locker room together as they're going.

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<v Speaker 2>Two and fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's a big part of being a head coach.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's not to say that too needs to be

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<v Speaker 3>the head coach, but that's something that has to be

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<v Speaker 3>taken into consideration when they're going through these.

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<v Speaker 2>Interviews, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we can look at stat sheets and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that Joe Burrow guy, he's pretty good at football. I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not going to lie, I have not done

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of research on what kind of coach, what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of personality Brian Callahan has. I mean, we know

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<v Speaker 1>these guys from the work they've put on film, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these guys like Callahan, like Frank Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>or offensive coordinators for coaches who call all the plays.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a little bit of education that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to happen. And that's what this interview process is about.

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<v Speaker 1>The people who are involved in that process or are

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<v Speaker 1>getting to know a lot of new people and none

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<v Speaker 1>of this. The one thing I have come to understand

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<v Speaker 1>fully as long as I've done this, is we're all guessing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to a friend in the league, someone

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<v Speaker 1>who might actually be a day or two older than me,

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<v Speaker 1>as if that was possible. But I was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>this friend who's a West Coast connected person in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, when Mike McDaniel was hired in Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>the people who had been associated with him previously were like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no way, that guy's a head coach, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>everybody kind of scoffed at it and thought Miami had

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<v Speaker 1>made a gigantic mistake, when as it turns out that

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McDaniel cap looks like he can coach a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you give him some of the fastest skill

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<v Speaker 1>position talent in the league and a quarterback who can

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<v Speaker 1>spread it around efficiently. So I think that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it. It's going to as with everything in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>it depends on fit. So we can evaluate any of

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<v Speaker 1>these jobs in a vacuum. It's going to be about

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<v Speaker 1>whether this GM candidate and this coach can work together.

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<v Speaker 1>What's their vision, how do they see putting a team

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<v Speaker 1>around Bryce to maximize his skills. And you know they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to get to know all of these

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<v Speaker 1>candidates and then they're going to have to spend some

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<v Speaker 1>time thinking about how they're going to work together. Because

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<v Speaker 1>those two guys, like it or not, are now paired up,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will see as the weeks go by what

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually going to look like.

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<v Speaker 3>Darren, one of these days, I'll tell you my Mike

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<v Speaker 3>McDaniel's story.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like a podcast in and of itself, so

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe not. Mike McDaniel he is an interesting cat.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are more stories to come. There are more

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<v Speaker 1>you know, news items. We got a ton of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean cash. You were in that locker room on

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<v Speaker 1>clean out day. There's so much uncertainty. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a big conversation around Brian Burns, who held court

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, and you know Burns is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a topic and he kind of shrugged and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, listen, man, I'm kind of on the back

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<v Speaker 1>burner right now until there's a coach in a GM.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna spend a lot of time worrying about

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<v Speaker 1>what my future is because the people who are going

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<v Speaker 1>to decide it ain't here yet.

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<v Speaker 3>So I thought that was very mature of him to recognize,

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<v Speaker 3>yeah and go, you know, in a normal year, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I might be the top of the list, but this year,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not the top of the list of priorities I

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<v Speaker 3>gotta worry about.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just so muchtainty. And I thought you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of did a good job wrapping up the locker room

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<v Speaker 1>the other day of you know, there were kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the same amount of questions, it's what have you learned

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<v Speaker 1>from this? What's next? And that was kind of the theme,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it. I mean that because with all the uncertainty

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<v Speaker 1>at the top, the guys in that locker room who

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<v Speaker 1>are likely going to be a part of things moving forward,

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<v Speaker 1>they just can't know yet. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>What stood out the most of that locker room, though, Darren,

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<v Speaker 3>was how light Bryshong seemed. He just seemed, at least

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<v Speaker 3>to me, and maybe I'm reading too much into it,

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<v Speaker 3>he just seemed to me like the weight of the

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<v Speaker 3>world had been lifted off his shoulders. And after the

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<v Speaker 3>season he's been through. That might have been that probably

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<v Speaker 3>what it felt like like he was light, he was joking,

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<v Speaker 3>he was teasing, he was a little goofy, which is

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<v Speaker 3>just not something that we've seen right from Bryshong throughout

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<v Speaker 3>this year, especially as the season has progressed. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>so it just kind of makes you realize what he

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<v Speaker 3>could be, especially as he kind of grows and gets

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<v Speaker 3>more and more used to the game and gets more

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<v Speaker 3>comfortable with.

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<v Speaker 2>Who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think it is a reasonable Shade

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<v Speaker 1>Tree psychologist assessment to say, with the weight of the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three season lifted off of him, the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to move on to the next thing might be something

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<v Speaker 1>he enjoys.

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<v Speaker 3>So speaking of that, you know what I learned about

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<v Speaker 3>Bryshong on Monday. Tell me he majored in psychology.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, So he is.

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<v Speaker 3>That is what he he said he would be doing

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<v Speaker 3>if he wasn't playing football.

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<v Speaker 2>What he could do Maybe after he retires, we could be.

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<v Speaker 1>A psychology We could get together and do some Shade

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<v Speaker 1>Tree psychology with Reich Young.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe that that's a weekly segment.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we turn that into a bit, Maybe we turned

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<v Speaker 1>that into.

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<v Speaker 3>A bit, but readers send in their life conundrums to

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<v Speaker 3>Brys Young and he kind of helps you.

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<v Speaker 2>Work through them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ask Cassidy. We already have asked the old guy.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll make ask cass A say that five times fast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll refer to Bryce without getting yourself in trouble

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<v Speaker 1>with the FCC or me subject podcast matter podcast subject

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<v Speaker 1>to FCC requirements? Can I just say a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>swear words? If I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go for it? How many can you say in ten second?

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<v Speaker 1>THO, you would be surprised. It's not just the number,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the volume and in intensity. We got podcast map

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<v Speaker 1>researching that. In the interim, I'll try not to get

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<v Speaker 1>us sued into oblivion because I don't know, maybe someday

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<v Speaker 1>somebody wants to sponsor this fine podcast product. So until then,

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<v Speaker 1>and until next time, when we have a little more clarity,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe on one or both of these searches, that'll take

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<v Speaker 1>care of us for this week. We will see you

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<v Speaker 1>again soon on the Happy half Hour.