1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: This is Peter Schweitzer and Derek Eggers. We're with a 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Government Accountability Institute and we have a podcast called The 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Drilldown and you can find it at the drilldown dot com. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: Sean has asked us to fill in and we are 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: thrilled to be here in New York City doing so. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: We'll see if it happens again, but so far where 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: I honored to be here. It's so great to have 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: Sean and his team offer us the platform to talk 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: about the things that we do at the Government Accountability 10 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Institute that we regularly discuss on our weekly podcast, The Drilldown. 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: And one of the people that we have on our 12 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: podcast at the drilldown dot com is Gai fellow Jason Chaffitz. Yeah, 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: and he's one of my favorite people in Washington. I 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: knew about Jason. Before I knew Jason. Jason was the 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: chairman of the House Oversight Committee, which does investigation of 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: the kinds of things we're interested in. And the thing 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: that was great about Jason and is still great about 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: Jason is he goes after both sides. He doesn't care 19 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: if you have an R or a D after your name. 20 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: If you're engaging in corrupt behavior. He is going to 21 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: call you out. And so when we launched this project 22 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: at the Government Accountability Institute to begin exposing the corruption 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: and the coronism at America's labor unions, Jason was a 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: natural person to get involved. And that is a project 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: that we've just launched and Jason is one of the 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: people taken a lead on it, and we have Jason 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: with us here. Jason, thanks so much for joining us. Hey, 28 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Appreciate it. So, teachers unions, a 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: lot of people think of teachers unions they focus on, 30 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, getting a better pension or getting better benefits 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: for teachers. That's not what America's teachers unions are about 32 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: today anymore, are they really? That's not their major focus 33 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: of their actions, of their activities. Unfortunately, you would hope 34 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: it would be all about the kids and you know, 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: those PTA meetings and what can we do to help 36 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: the kids. And you can understand why the union wants to, 37 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, fight for for certain benefits for teachers and what, 38 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: but that's not what's going on today. I Mean. One 39 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: of the things that you know, he found through GAI 40 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: that is really quite noticeable is, for instance, the American 41 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,559 Speaker 1: American Federation of Teachers that the increase in political participation. 42 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: They raised something like three point seven million dollars in 43 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, but then it was up to 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars in the twenty twenty election cycle. And 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: but so much of it was about social activism, political lobbying, immigration, 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: racial justice, things that weren't necessarily all about the kids. 47 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: And I think what you're speaking to, Jason, it's such 48 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: an important point is you know, one of our common 49 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: phrases at the Government Accountability Institute is follow the money right. Now, 50 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: we didn't come up with that, that's Woodward and Bernstein, 51 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: but I think that the motto and the methode still holds. 52 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: And so I think the point is if you follow 53 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: the money right, what do you see? You see the 54 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: fact that the money that teachers unions now have does 55 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: what it's going towards radical political activism. So the people 56 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: that are in charge of the classroom environments that Americans 57 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: children sit in are now actively working to support liberal 58 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: political activities. Yeah, I mean, and that's what's that's what's changed, 59 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: and it changed with some of the leadership that came 60 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: into place. Randy Weinart, who who leads up and heads 61 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: up the American Federation of Teachers. But it also happened 62 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: over at the National Education Association. There was this great 63 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: find that one of the researchers there at GAA found 64 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: it admitted to ED Week, which I know every good 65 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: American subscribed to ED Week, but admitted that the core 66 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: business of the na the National Education Association, it's no 67 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: longer pensions and healthcare insurance, but actually social active and 68 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: political lobby I mean, so they're actually staying out loud. 69 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: You follow the money, as Eric mentioned, and it's changing 70 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: the landscape, and it's creating animosity, and it's creating political division, 71 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: and it's not necessarily in the best interest of the kid. So, Jason, 72 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: one of the interests and things for me and all 73 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: of this is I had great teachers. I went to 74 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: public schools. I'm sure you had great teachers. Eric did 75 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: as well. I certainly didn't have teachers that were radical 76 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: like this. And I'm going to go out on a 77 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: limb and say, I think the vast majority of public 78 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: school teachers out there aren't as radical as the leadership 79 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: of the American Federation Teacher in the NAA so in 80 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: a way, there's a potentially a real opportunity here to 81 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: make sure that there is a division between the leadership 82 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: and the general teacher population, and that maybe is a 83 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: way to start trying to reform some of these unions 84 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: from what end? Do you think I'm being too optimistic there? No. 85 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: I think one of the things we're going to be 86 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: able to expose with the work at GAI is to 87 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: be able to show this, my guest is a major 88 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: portion I don't know if it's the majority, but a 89 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: major portion of those that are actually contributing a few 90 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: dollars a month to the cause to be part of 91 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: this union are going to be shocked to see where 92 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: their money actually ends up going. And if we can 93 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: do nothing else but shine the light on where this 94 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: money is going and what they're actually advocating for. I 95 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: think certainly the students, the parents, and some of the administrators, 96 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: but the teachers I think are going to be pretty 97 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: shocked on where this money is actually flowing. We're talking 98 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: to a distinguished fellow, Jason Chaffetz of the Government Accountability Institute, 99 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: as a former member of Congress, and somebody who I 100 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: think I don't I've never met anybody takes more personally 101 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: the expense of any tax dollar than Jason Chaffetz, Right. 102 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: I mean, you'll have to get Jason fired up. You 103 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: talk about a nickel going to the wrong place. Yeah. 104 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: And so I think it's so interesting why Jason's so 105 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: perfect to talk about the new report that we have 106 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: at the Government Accountability Institue that will be coming online 107 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: next year or the first part of next year, is 108 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about the hard earned dollars of America's teachers. Now, 109 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: think about everything that America's teachers have had to endure 110 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: over the last twenty months as COVID happened. They had 111 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: to radically reinvent the way in which education was delivered 112 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: in a way that was deemed safe but also effective. 113 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: They'd think about cleaning their classroom, They'd think about teaching 114 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: and mass and teaching online, teaching hybrid. I mean, the 115 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: job satisfaction of the teachers that I know has never 116 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: been at all time low. So think about what I 117 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: think this is why this is so important, is that 118 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: we should be supported and cheering. The people are still 119 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: willing to go into the classroom and support America's youth. 120 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: And so when we expose is this report will do 121 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: that the money that the teachers actually give to their 122 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: unions because they think they're supporting things like, hey, better pay, 123 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: better pensions, better health insurance, were safer classroom environments. The 124 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: reality is that the money that they're spending is going 125 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: to a leadership that instead doesn't advocate for things that 126 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: are actually about the classroom, but about political activism. What 127 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: are some other examples that we've seen, Jason, Well, particularly 128 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: with elections, you see a lot of advocacy for some 129 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: very specific things, and a lot of the gay rights issues, 130 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: and they call it the human rights and other things, 131 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: but it really has taken over a major portion of 132 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: what they're doing is advocacy for some gay rights issues 133 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: that maybe I think parents and students and the teachers 134 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: would be a little bit surprised on. Yeah, we can't 135 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: talk a lot about it today because it's an ongoing 136 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: investigation we're doing of the American Federation of Teachers. But 137 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: one of the things is interesting is how Randy Weingarten, 138 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: the head of the AFT, has thrown around money. You 139 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: pointed out certainly that they're pouring a lot more of 140 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: their money into or teachers money into elections. We also 141 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: know that they wasted a million dollars in teacher pension 142 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: money on counterfeit code supplies from China. And there's going 143 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: to be some very interesting reports on deals in agreements 144 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: that Randy Weingarten has signed with cronies and that even 145 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: benefit family members in the city or state of New York. 146 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: So the point is this is not just about liberal politics. 147 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: It's also about corruption and how they are actually handling 148 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: the money that these teachers have entrusted them with. Jason. Yeah, again, 149 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: there are certain requirements and things that they do in 150 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: terms of what they publicly disclosed, but the amount of 151 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: money that's flowing and then going into elections, it's pretty shocking. Yeah. 152 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: So one of the other themes that we are developing 153 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: in this report that I find fascinating is sort of 154 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: the alliance between the teachers unions and the Biden administration. 155 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: That's not a surprise, but the Biden administration is actually 156 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: using tax year dollars to expand this alternative schooling model 157 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: that they call community schools. And what community schools really 158 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: do is they say, hey, we're educating your kids, but 159 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: we want to handle more of their healthcare, more of 160 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: their nutrition, more of their psychological counseling. We want to 161 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: have this holistic approach because, after all, these schools are 162 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: doing such a great job educating our children to begin with, 163 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: and under the Abiden administration, we're actually seeing a fourteenfold 164 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: increase from thirty million dollars to over four hundred million 165 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: dollars a year on this scheme. And of course they're 166 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: hiring a lot of contractors and consultants that tend to 167 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: be low and behold connected to some of these union leaders. Well, 168 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: it's not just a lot of these unions, but so 169 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: much of this type back into China again. I mean, 170 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: it's the theme that just keeps on coming. I mean, Peter, 171 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: you have certainly been a leader in exposing so many 172 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: of these ties and associations and interesting bed follows, if 173 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: you will, with what's going on in China. Yeah, that's 174 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: exactly right, and there's going to be more coming out 175 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: on that in January. UM, can't say anymore about that, 176 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: but yeah, we're absolutely on the China narrative. So, Jason, 177 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: how are things you're in Utah? How are things in Utah? 178 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're open compared to a lot of 179 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: other parts around the country. Are people dying in the 180 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: streets in Utah, you know, are people rebelling because they 181 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: don't think the government is responding, or are people in 182 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: Utah actually taking responsibility for their own health in the 183 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: midst of this pandemic. Well, I think there's there's. Utah 184 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: is a very interesting you said, it's a big libertarian streak, 185 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: and I think most people here they understand the severity. 186 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: They understand it's a serious situation. Um, a good portion 187 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: have been vaccinated, but a good portion have said no, 188 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that. But the idea of 189 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: person responsibility and taking on their own responsibility for their healthcare, 190 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: I just I don't think there's I think a majority 191 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: of people here think that government forcing somebody to inject 192 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: themselves is just a bridge too far. That is just 193 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: he certainly shouldn't lose your job over it. You shouldn't 194 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: be you know, like they're doing in New York. You 195 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: can't go in to eat and get food and you 196 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: eat at a restaurant. I think you'd find that a 197 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: good portion of the Inner mount in the West is 198 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: much more like Texas and Florida than it is like 199 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: New York or California. Well, one of the things we 200 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: want to talk about, Jason and when it comes to 201 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: the government forcing people to do things, and we'll come 202 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: back and keeps continuing to talk to former members of 203 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: Congress Jason Chaffitz. Is the effort that was made to 204 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: make Joe Mansion support this Build Back Better bill and 205 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: his showing a unique characteristic, a little bit of an 206 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: independent streak, a willingness to stand up and push back 207 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: against political expediency because of what he actually thought was 208 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: in the nation's best interest. Imagine that he didn't go 209 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: for the financial incentives, he didn't go for the political pressure. 210 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: We'll talk to Jason Chaffitz about Joe Manchin's vote and 211 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,599 Speaker 1: what it means moving forward. On the other side of 212 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: the Sean Handy Show, Peter Schweitzer, Eric Eggers will be 213 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: our background. Sean Hannity, always concerned for our country, always 214 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: honoring our servicemen and servicewomen, and standing up for liberty 215 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: every day. Sean Hannity, Hello America, This is Peter Schweitzer 216 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: and Derek Eggers. We're with a government Accountability Institute and 217 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: we are talking with distinguished Gai fellow and former member 218 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: of Congress. Jason Chaffits. Jason, we talked earlier in the 219 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: show about the enormous pressure that must have been brought 220 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: to bear to Joe Mansion, and really, honestly, in a 221 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: profile encourage he resisted. It tell us a little bit 222 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: what it's like to be on the inside. What pressures, 223 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: what attempts to curry favor with you, induce you to 224 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: do things you didn't want to do. Did you experience 225 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: when you were in Congress, Well, they put a lot 226 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: of pressure on you in terms of the party and leadership, 227 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: and are you going to get your own bills brought 228 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: to the floor, are you going to get certain priorities 229 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: and recognition, and will you be able to do the 230 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: care work that you're supposed to be doing for your 231 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: own constituents. But Senator Mansion and Christen Cinema and some others, 232 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: I think we're very clear. I think the Democrats way 233 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: overstepped because they think they acted as if they had 234 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: a mandate in an overwhelming majority, and they didn't. And 235 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: now they seem now they seem to have burned that 236 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: bridge with Joe Manchin, right, I mean they're attacking him personally, 237 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: making up all these allegations about him. Are they going 238 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: to be able to repair that breach? Probably not. And 239 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: I think the things that are being said, I think 240 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: he's just beyond belief in terms of the viciousness and 241 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: just the flat out incorrect informations. You know, they turned 242 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: on him in such and saying that he went back 243 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: on his word. I think Joe Manchin was actually pretty 244 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: clear that he was very concerned about a whole host 245 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: of things. Keep in mind, this is a bill in 246 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: the Senate that had the text had never been published, right, 247 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: the scoring was totally different than how they said. I 248 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: don't care how many times as President Joe Biden says 249 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: it causes zero, it's not going to add a dime 250 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: to the deficit. But when the CBO comes out says 251 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: twelve five trillion, it doesn't seem like that's it's accurate. 252 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: And there were so many bird Bath problems, you know, 253 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: Senator bird you know, trying to do things on reconciliation 254 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: that you can't do. At the end of the day, 255 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: it was bad for West Virginia, it's bad for the country. 256 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: And Joe Manson recognized that and seam on the White 257 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: House and Joe Biden for trying to push something through 258 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: that was so radical, so far to the left, that 259 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: it just was not palatable. The majority of the United 260 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: States Senate said, no, that's the reality. Well, so we 261 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: are talking with distinguished JI fellow. Jason Chaffett's a man 262 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: of consistency and principle, as Joe Mansion appears to be. Now, 263 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: this is Peter Schweitzer and Eric Eggers. We are filling 264 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: in for Sean Hannity and we will be back right 265 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: after this continuing the mission of saving America. As we 266 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: returned to the Sean Hannity Show. This is Peter Schweitzer 267 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: and Eric Eggers. We're with a Government Accountability Institute and 268 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: Mary Christmas America. We are filling in for Sean and 269 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: we're glad to be doing so. We appreciate this opportunity. 270 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: You can find our podcast at the Drilldown dot com. 271 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: It comes out every Thursday. We expose cronyism and corruption 272 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: relentlessly in Washington, DC, and you can find that podcast 273 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: anywhere where quality podcasts can be found. Only were the 274 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: quality ones are those bootleg versions up. It's like those 275 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: persons you see in New York City on the sidewalk. Now, 276 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: these are the real genuine article. You're not picking up 277 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: purses in New York? Are you not? Ones that are 278 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: made in China. Well, let's take some calls. Let's talk 279 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: to Craig in Pennsylvania, who wants to talk about we 280 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: were discussing earlier the Japanese and tournament camps. He wants 281 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about how this affected Germans 282 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: and Italian Americans as well. Craig, how are you real fine, 283 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: nice speaking gentlemen. Thanks for joining us Mary Christmas. Yeah, 284 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: my family came to the States in thirty eight as 285 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: our first generation American. My parents were children when they 286 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: came here, and by nineteen forty one, is that they 287 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: got to knock on the door from the FBI, and 288 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: even though they were American citizens at that time they 289 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: had full citizenship. Is that the FBI basically put it 290 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: to them and said, you guys are coming with us 291 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: down to Texas where we're keeping a bunch of people 292 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: we want to keep our eyes on for the duration 293 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: of the war. So my grandfather, my great uncle, and 294 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: my oldest uncle cut a deal that basically put them 295 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: in the Pacific Theater for the duration of the war, 296 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: where they fought an island hocking campaign with the Marine 297 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: Corps strictly because they were German, and then that's what 298 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: this country's government can do to you. They put them 299 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: in a position where they said, you guys are going 300 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: no matter what, we have to keep an eye on you. 301 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: And my grandmother just about lost or mind when they said, 302 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: if the whole family goes, nobody's could be able to 303 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: pay the taxes on the land and they're going to 304 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: lose their house and farm and every saying, so if 305 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: people don't think that this government can do things to you, 306 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: they can and it's just as easy as a stroke 307 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: of a pen. Well, thank you, Craig. We appreciate that 308 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: explanation of the part of history that we didn't cover. 309 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: And you're absolutely right. Remember what Jefferson said, the extent 310 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: that government can do something for you, it can do 311 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: something to you. But I just want to point out 312 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: that I think one of the parallels there is that 313 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: Craig's family was perceived to be hostile, right or dangerous 314 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: because they fell into a category that was perceived to 315 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: be not obedient or not in line with what the 316 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: government's mission or agenda was at that time. And you know, 317 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: You've heard some people draw comparisons between the unvaccinated and 318 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: people consider to be hostile. But I think that's what's 319 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: so dangerous about this duality, right there's like you're either 320 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: in or you're not. And this inversion of the social 321 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: contract where we are now being told to see other 322 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: human beings, other Americans, Like I think we're meant to 323 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: live in community with each other and help each other. 324 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: And why I have such a hard time with it 325 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: is that we're now told to see that you could 326 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: be a threat, like you could physically impact my well 327 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: being and I should be afraid of you. And I 328 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: just think that that's so backwards and dangerous and unhealthy, 329 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: Like that's unhealthier than me breathing your air. Yeah, it 330 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: makes us suspicious of each other at a time when 331 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: we already have political divisions and other divisions. It's just 332 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: pouring more fuel on that fire. Let's go to Joe 333 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: in New Jersey, who wants to talk about Jen Saki. Joe, 334 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: how are you? Yes, Hello, gentlemen, Thank you very much 335 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: for taking my call. Thanks for joining us. Go ahead. 336 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: I just can't get over Jen Saki. How does she 337 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: square up the fact that illegal immigrants can cross the 338 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: border and not get tested. And she defends that by saying, well, 339 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: they're not going to be here that long. But yet, 340 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: if I want to go to London or London wants 341 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: to come here, you know, for a week, we have 342 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: to go through all kinds of COVID testing. You have 343 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: to have up to the minute testing, up to the 344 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: second testing. But that's okay, Yeah, it's going to be 345 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: there for a week. It's a great it's a great, 346 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: great question, Joe. And I think Jen Saki probably has 347 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: the worst job in Washington, which he has to go 348 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: up there and basically a lie or try to explain 349 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: her way out of things. And I think this is 350 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: one of the challenges that people have, Like I don't 351 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: think people want to actively not contribute towards a positive outcome. Right, 352 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: So this idea that unvaccinated Americans or Americans that don't 353 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: want to wear their mask, that they're somehow selfish and 354 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: disobedient and they don't care about the well being of 355 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: other people. I don't know if it's that as so 356 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: much is that some people, you know, we can be 357 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: intellectually honest, right, I think what you're speaking to is 358 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: a lack of intellectual consistency, lack of intellectual honesty. It's 359 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: no different than when you go to a restaurant and 360 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: one of these cities with mask mandates, like in New 361 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: York City. Right, you see everybody sitting shoulder to shoulder 362 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: at a table or shoulder to shoulder to bar, but 363 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: when you get up to use the restroom, you have 364 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: to put your mask on, and no one questions that. 365 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: And that's just no. This is how it is. Right, right, 366 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: makes absolutely no sense. And of course that's the point 367 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: that Brandon Judd was talking about earlier. Right, this this 368 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: issue of immigration. The reason Jensaki doesn't know much about 369 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: the boarder. She knows a lot about the border, but 370 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: she can't say it because of the political agenda of 371 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: this administration. Joe, thanks so much for your call. Let's 372 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: go to Michael and Georgia. Michael, you say you're going 373 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: to lose your job because of the vaccine mandate. Yes, sir, 374 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: without getting in too much detail, I work for a 375 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: government contractor, for a fence contractor on a military installation, 376 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: and when the mandate came out for federal workers, we 377 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: were giving the option to fill out religious exemption paperwork. 378 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: We filled that out, it was rejected. As far as 379 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: I know, everyone that filled one out was rejected. I 380 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: filed a EOC complaint, good for you, citing religious discrimination. Ye. 381 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: The next step in that process is a phone interview, 382 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: and the EOC is not conducting full interviews until the 383 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: day after I lose my job. Oh, Michael, Michael, it's terrible. 384 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: I applaud you because you are helping to protect our 385 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: country as a contractor, and you are actually being put 386 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: under a greater constraint than somebody from Saudi Arabia or 387 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: Romania who's sneaking across the border in Mexico. You actually 388 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: have more You actually have less rights and more restrictionsh 389 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: on you than they do. And you wonder what will 390 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: happen if this vaccine mandate ends up being blocked by 391 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: a court, which has happened elsewhere, or in some cases, 392 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: based on legal pushback, some of these local municipalities actually 393 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: then resinned. Okay, fine, We're sorry that we cost these 394 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: people their jobs. We no longer are doing that as 395 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: some counties in Florida are doing because of the way 396 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: they've structured the law in Florida. But what good does 397 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: that do to people like Michael who didn't lose their 398 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: job even after the fact that the policies that cause 399 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: them to lose their job has been revoked. Yeah, that's 400 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: exactly right. So Michael, what are you gonna do? What 401 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: are you going to do if the government says you 402 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: can lose your job unless you get vaccinated? What are 403 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: you going to do? Not sure of? I got four kids. No, 404 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: God bless you, Michael. Well, we will be praying for you. 405 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate your principled stand I know there are a 406 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: lot of organizations out there helping with lawsuits. I hope 407 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: you seek those out. Some of those people have been 408 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: on Sean's show. I hope you seek them out. You're 409 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: not alone in this, brother, there are other people that 410 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: also believe in individual freedom. So so please don't lose faith, 411 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: and please keep us updated quick saying everybody that I've 412 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: talked to legal counselis has told me the next thing 413 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: to do is file in the EOC complaint. Yeah, yep, 414 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: and that's what you've done. That's where I'm stuck. Yeah. Yeah. Well, 415 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: God bless you, Michael. We will be praying for you, 416 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: and we hope things turn out for the best. Let's 417 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: go to Bruce in California, and Bruce wants to talk 418 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: to us about teachers and elites. Bruce, how are you hey? 419 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call, and Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas 420 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: to you. I gotta tell you, man, I am sick 421 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: of hearing about the teachers of what they have gone 422 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: through this past year and a half. Because they haven't 423 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: gone through anything, because they haven't done anything. All they're 424 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: doing is lining their pocketbooks and their bank accounts because 425 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: of their teachers union holding out. And the only people 426 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: that are suffering are the children and the parents of 427 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: those children because those parents are forced to stay home, 428 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: so they're losing jobs, not because of COVID, but because 429 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: of this administration who's putting these mandates on everything. And 430 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: the teachers are just standing in line to wait for 431 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: more money. And my grandchildren have to wear a mask. 432 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: Four years old, she's in preschool and she's wearing a 433 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: mask all day. That pisses me off. I'm telling you, 434 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure it does. Now. Bruce, you're in California, correct, correct? 435 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: So did your children get to go to school? Your 436 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: grandchildren get to go to school last year? Or is 437 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: this the first year that may have to return to 438 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: a brick and mortar facility. Yeah, the ladder of what 439 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: you just said. Yeah, And I think that's well, I 440 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: think I have a grand go ahead. Well, I'm just 441 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: gonna say I think that speaks to anything that helps 442 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: inform your perspective, because I would say in Florida, where 443 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: school is because of the order of government to scientists 444 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: were forced to be open last calendar year. So I 445 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: think that's where the teachers did have to go back 446 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: in place. And to be honest, a lot of the 447 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: teachers that we spoke to, I have four children also 448 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: who are in elementary school and preschool. Their teachers wanted 449 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: to be back in the classroom because they actually enjoy teaching. 450 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: But I do think some of the dynamics you're speaking 451 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: to there was definitely a lot of political pressure and 452 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: a lot of the union memberships that wait a minute, 453 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: can we get paid to not be there? And I 454 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: think so. I think what you're speaking to is as 455 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: a dynamic unique to California and some of these other 456 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: states where the lockdowns lasted a lot longer than other states. Well, 457 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 1: since I'm in California, it is my world, so as 458 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned. That's what's happening, is the teachers 459 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: union and the teachers that are just lining up to 460 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: line their bank accounts. You know, New York, Florida, Texas 461 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: may be different, but I'm just concerned about where I live. 462 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: You know, not the rest of the country, but me 463 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: and mine. Yeah. Absolutely. Now it's incredibly, incredibly troubling, and 464 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: I can't and there's some millions of parents like you 465 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: that I think feel the same way and feel the 466 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: same frustration and sacrifice. So we appreciate you sharing your 467 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: story because I know there's a lot of people across 468 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: the country that that resonates with and can relate to it. 469 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: We'll take a few more calls and come back. It's 470 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: one eight hundred nine four one seven three two six 471 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: one eight hundred and nine four one Sean. It's Eric 472 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: Eggers and Peter Schweitzer with the Government Accountability Institute. We 473 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: host a podcast called The Drill Down that you can 474 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: find on any podcast platform and at the website The 475 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 1: drill down dot com. We're happy to be filling in 476 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: for Sean Handy. One more segment to go. You guys, 477 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: have a meric Christmas. We'll bear it back. This is 478 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: Peter Schweitzer and Derek Eggers and Mary Christmas. We're with 479 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: a government accountability institute and we've been filling in with 480 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: for Sean Hannity on his radio show. And I have 481 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: to tell you, Eric, I've had a blast. It's the 482 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: first time I've ever done this, and I've had an 483 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: absolute blast doing this. Well, you did a wonderful job. Again, 484 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: we sort of joke that you becoming in transition. Transitions 485 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: a buzzword in twenty twenty one, so I think the 486 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: nation got the experience Peter Schweitzer's transition today from best 487 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: line author to national radio show host, and I think 488 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: it went much better than Michael Jordan's transition from basketball 489 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: to baseball. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Now, 490 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: it's been a great time. We want to thank Linda 491 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: and the team here who've made it so much fun 492 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: and it have been so welcoming. They also help us 493 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: with other things that we do, including our podcast of 494 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: the Drilldown dot com. We covered issues of chronyism and corruption. 495 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: It's very investigative in focus and we have a lot 496 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: of fun doing it and we look forward to a 497 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: future episodes. Well, I guess we have to do one 498 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, right, so we'll have to sort of break 499 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: down a performance. I've got a few notes of critiques 500 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: of your performance. We'll share those in the next podcast. 501 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: Sure you will, I'm sure you will. So quick questions, 502 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: who is getting the Clinton masterclass for Christmas? Are you 503 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: getting this for the wife? Well? If I was getting 504 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: it for my wife, I certainly wouldn't disclose it on 505 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: national radio because it wouldn't be a surprise. Peter, I 506 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: don't think you want to surprise anybody with a Clinton gift. Well, 507 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: not sure that's a good idea in principle. We talked 508 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: earlier in the show about if you know what's a 509 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: better gift, right, a Bill Clinton master Class. I mean, hey, 510 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: merry Christmas. Here's some despair and regret, you know, or 511 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: a box of wine, or you know, lots of other categories. 512 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: But no, I don't believe anyone in my family, my 513 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: immediate family, will be getting a Clinton master class gift 514 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: for Christmas? What about your family? Uh? No, Clinton master Class? 515 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: And unlike you, I mean, you've got wonderful kids that 516 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: are just at a great age. Sometimes my kids are 517 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: all grown. So it's a little bit different at Christmas. 518 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: But you know that's I guess one of the things 519 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: I want to say finally here as we're getting ready 520 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: to end the show. Um, you know, with all the 521 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: angst and all the frustration, all the anger, with everything 522 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: there about the lock up, so let's remember what the 523 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: season is about. It's merry Christmas, it's happy Hanuka, it's 524 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: about family, it's about thankfulness, it's about joyousness. And even 525 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: though you and I deal with the muck every single 526 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: day and we're investigating this stuff, you have to maintain 527 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: that spirit to maintain your sanity. And I think you 528 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: people out there. Sean certainly exhibits us all the time 529 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: when he's on the air. You want to have a 530 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: joyous heart. You want to be thankful for what you 531 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: have and not just be focused on the things that 532 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: anger you in life, because if you do, you're gonna 533 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: drive yourself crazy and it's not good for your mental 534 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: health or for your family. No, I think that's right. 535 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: You want to celebrate the blessings in your life. You 536 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: want to celebrate the community and the way it blesses 537 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: you are. Actually, today is my father Gary Egger's seventieth birthday, 538 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: so happy birthday to him. This is what I'm getting 539 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: you for your birthday. So unless you want the Clinton 540 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: master Class that they're offering a discount maybe, but I 541 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: don't know, but yeah, you're right now, there's a lot 542 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: of positives, and I think it's important while we can 543 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: celebrate it, or well, we can talk about the things 544 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: are challenging and frustrating because because there is a lot 545 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: at stake for Americans, right, I mean, the conditions of 546 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 1: American life are actively changing every day, So it's important 547 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: to talk about that, to document that, document the forces 548 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: behind it, as we do on our Drill Down podcast, 549 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: and what incentives they have for that change. It's also 550 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: important think to have a comprehensive understanding of it's not 551 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: all negative. That's right, that's right, and we're not saying 552 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: block it out. You got to pay attention to it. 553 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a very informed audience. You've got 554 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: to be focused, you've got to you know, look at 555 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: the issues and address them. But particularly at this time 556 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: of the year, I just think it's so important and 557 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: then to be re energized and refocused in twenty twenty 558 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: two because we've got midterm elections coming up. In November. 559 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: You've got all these issues related to congressional hearings. I've 560 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: got a book coming out in January. I can't I 561 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: can't discuss the details of it, but there are a 562 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: lot of things that are going to be happening in 563 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. So I tell America, let's rest up, 564 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: let's have a great time, and then let's be prepared 565 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: to fight the fight when we need to fight the 566 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: fight next year. Do you want to say anything about 567 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: your book, like just one nugget or like one thing 568 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: that you learned in this process. Well, I can tell 569 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: you this objectively, and you've worked with me for ten years, 570 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: and you know I've never said this before. This is, 571 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: without a doubt, the scariest book that I've ever written, 572 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: because of the level of corruption, meaning how high the 573 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: government officials are and where the money is actually coming from. 574 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 1: That's what's truly frightening. I just want to point out 575 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: that you just ended a segment where we encouraged Americans 576 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: to be celebratory and positive and say, by the way, 577 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: this next book will terrify you. Well, listen, thank you 578 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: so much for joining us on the Sean Hannity Show. 579 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: This is Peter Schweitzer, and Eric Eggers. You can find 580 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: us on the drilldown dot com podcast. We appreciate you 581 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: joining us. Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to 582 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: all of you.