WEBVTT - Episode 186 w/ Russ 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:16.960 And Drink Chess, Motherfucking Podcast. Mason, He's a legendary Queen's rapper. 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:19.920 He's agree it's your boy in R. He's a Miami 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:23.280 hippoper pioneer. One up is d j e FN. Together 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.400 they drinking up with some of the biggest players in 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:31.000 the most professional unprofessional podcast and yet number one source 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.360 for drunk back drin Chess motherfuck is New Year's e 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:45.600 time for drink Champs, trick up for the would it 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:47.520 could be Hopeully wouldn't sim me? This is your boy 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:49.959 and o R. What up is d J e F 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:57.600 And this is Drink Chess Motherfucker? Yea am Now Now, 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:02.080 this is one of the most remarkable, amazing stories in 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:06.639 the hip hop when the person comes and says fuck y'all, 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:10.360 even out of even out of it's because the people 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.440 ain't sucking with him, and he says fuck y'all and says, 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.080 I'm gonna do it my way, and I'm I'm gonna 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:18.160 be my own engineer, I'm gonna be my own fucking producer, 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.360 I'm gonna write my own raps, I'm gonna do my 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.440 own hooks, And he actually goes out there and he 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:29.720 works and then he turns around and say fuck y'all 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.080 because it worked, and he has flat them singles and 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.479 gold records. And the thing is, so many people want to, like, 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.880 you know, call them my arrogant person or cocky person. 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.720 But the thing is when you have the accolades or 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.280 the things to back it up, sometimes it's just being 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:49.840 facts sometimes speaking. So if you people don't understand, I 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.760 don't understand Independent Ground, don't understand who we're talking about. 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:59.160 We're talking about one other than Russ made some other. Now, 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.200 I was very interested in your story from the beginning 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:06.760 because of your relentless uh work ethic. Now, I went 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:08.600 a Google and they said that you were starting out 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.040 in two thousand and nine. When we started messing with 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.639 the music, it was it was like, oh six, I 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:17.760 was like fourteen, freshman in high school, just making Beast 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:21.440 got me. Before that, I was I was five seven, 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.800 whatever the funk. I was listening to fifty and Eminem 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.560 and like writing. I remember writing raps from the perspective 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.520 that I was from Queens just because like, so you're 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.520 living in Georgia, I know you from at that time, 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.200 I was living in North Carolina. So we moved around, 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.520 moving around. Yeah, so we moved around, But um, I 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.519 just always feel like I knew who I was before 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.360 I knew who I was, Like the bug bade me 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.959 before I knew that it did me. Like, why why 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:47.840 else is a seven year old standing on his mental 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.720 piece performing rap seats writing from the perspective of like 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.760 queens if for no other reason than like I think 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.400 he just really function that ship, you know what I'm saying, 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:08.040 Because that's like the first time that was starting fire. 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.480 Like it's like, why else do you do ship when 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.959 your seven other than for the genuine love of the ship. 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.839 So it was kind of always in my life. But yeah, 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.560 four teens when I started like making beasts, so what 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:22.079 are the wait, wait, what are the artists you're saying 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:23.919 that you're listening to it that time? At that time, yeah, 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:28.119 it was it was just g unit heavy. Yeah, like 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:32.320 the fucking fifty and the whole bead from Mercy ship 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:36.600 like Dre's why I started even getting like interested in production, 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:38.560 you know what I mean? You know what it was though? 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:42.320 Two was my parents always had like music and speakers 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:45.560 and everything. My my dad was very musical. His father 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.280 taught me guitar and ship rest in peace pop up. 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.040 So like, there was always a musical family. Uh, my mom, 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.680 So your father's father was in the music. Oh yeah, 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.240 he played. He played guitar for like eighty years. That's 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.280 what That's what my part me. But that's my grandfather 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.160 said to me every time you see me, you know 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.040 where your talent comes from? Like, well, you know what 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:08.120 he says, like my dick, like my grandfather before you. 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.880 I'm like, damn. He's like yeah yeah, he's like, well 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:16.600 he didn't say no English. He'd be like, your ball 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:24.480 don't got no talent. But I'm sorry, yeah, you're good. Yeah. 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.760 Not so my dad's dad was like just very artistic. 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:33.880 And then my mom's grandma played the organ for mafia 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.839 weddings and ship like that. All right, there was always 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.080 music in the family. It's not because you're Sicilian. It 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:45.200 was my field weddings. No, at every Sicilian I haven't man, 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.720 I got along with I don't know. I guess it's 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.120 because my last name is Sicilian, so I'm part of Sicilian. 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:52.760 I like that. How do you how do you say 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:59.320 your last names? I'm just saying my last name is 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:04.120 not Si. You're Cuban, okay. But according to Sicilians. It's 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:09.240 not Chandy, is it two sees? Well, maybe it's because 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:15.040 child's two sees something that depending on that no Italian 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:19.920 that you got sis on it. So now so now 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:21.800 you come from first. So let's make up to our 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.000 people who provided a look at to their best body liquors. 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:27.880 You know what I'm saying. Twenty seven nine South Dixie Highway. 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.040 People came here with that white star Rose right star away. 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.920 I'm getting off the Rose because Rose starting with Miami 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:39.680 a kool aid too much. But most liquors you ordered 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:41.400 with the drink Champs order you could drink with us. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.840 So listen, do you come from my era? I didn't 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:45.400 even I don't want to cut you off, but to 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.040 really make that, to drive that point home what it was. 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:49.480 They had the music in the house, so its mom's 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.599 and papers, and it was how green and it was 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:55.560 earth winning fire and it was all this musical ship 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:57.600 that I was getting introduced to. And so I feel 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.680 like I always feel like the natural segue the reason 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:01.400 why it was so naturally start listening to g Unit 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:06.080 because people don't understand that. Yeah, because fifty eminem actually 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.320 wildly melodic. I've never heard a fifty verse where he's 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.359 not in the pocket. Is this why you became a 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.200 melodic artist? As we well, Yeah, the inception of the 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.800 hip hop bug that bit Me was based off of 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:21.520 a melodic introduction. So me like, fifty wildly wake up 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.440 earlier in the morning because everything is like a it's 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:26.800 a whole cadence and him like this' relody to it 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.120 because to me, I feel like, I feel like you've 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.800 got Drake, you got Eminem, and you got Kanye, and 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.520 you like if you made I agree and made a 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:41.000 superhuman I mean, if they together and made a Sicilian, 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:45.880 you know, the Godfather, because you have have every one 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.160 of their traits. Like you you're crazy, like in a 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:52.479 good way and a bad way. Then you're Eminem with 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.600 the shop value, and then um, Kanye is because again 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:58.880 it's just it's just out of this world. Like your 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.800 music sometimes you can go like it's it's ahead, ahead 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.200 of time. That's what the reason why I feel like 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:07.520 in certain ways like you misunderstood is because you're in 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:13.280 twenty four. You're like you're you're so you're still ahead. 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:18.320 It's like it's gonna come off a little bit a 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.040 little bit weird. Because you're advanced, you are more advanced. 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.360 Like if you have a scene like, um, the kid 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.040 that's in the behavior cat class and he's in the 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.760 resource room and he's a special had and then he said, 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.080 but why are you especially a He almost always says 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:36.360 behavior because no one says I'm stupid, right, So it's 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:39.520 just almost like that. It's like you're ahead, You're you're 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.440 so far ahead of this other classes that everybody don't 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.200 want to admit that we might be kind of stupid. 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.920 I like, you know, it's so amazing. Is that like 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.280 if I say that, which I have, right, But if 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.280 I say that, that's when it comes off. That's what 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:57.240 drink champ. I appreciate you, but I appreciate you even 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.600 having that perspective. But it's also in thinkative of how 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.560 insecure the consumer is in society. Is is that if 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:05.720 I choose to pick up myself, it's a problem. But 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:07.280 if you say the exact same thing about me that 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:10.200 I would say about myself, then it's okay, which which 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.240 I always say, is like, so y'all just want to 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:15.280 control my confidence. You can't have self confidence. I can't 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.200 be confident till you tell me I can be confident 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.200 that it's okay. One of my favorite moments is we 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.800 come from an era of trolling. Right now, whether you 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.560 were trolling or not, you wanted to make a statement 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.520 with the T shirt. Now where was this at? Just 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:34.280 what okay? D And how long ago was this? September? 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:46.440 Seen always remember dates even I'm like just checking after it. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:51.640 I literally think it was seven years ago September Break 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:57.679 It Down Festival. Yes, your backstage, all the artists kind 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.600 of see you. Yeah, because you don't want any were 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.800 your batage with each other. All the artists come down, 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.280 everyone sees each other, so you go on stage and 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:09.040 that's where No, it went viral when after the show 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.839 I posted it on Instagram the performance just like a 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:14.520 picture of me in the shirt. First of all, the 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.640 inspiration for that came from my j D thousand when 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.760 he was rocking those all black jumpsuits, just things on him. 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.000 I was like, he did that, I think so, but 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:24.559 it was I was like, man, that's a really cool 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.960 way to say something without saying anything. Because if I'm 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.120 gonna be on stage and have a platform, let me 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.160 just put them on my shirt. So I had like 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.120 a bunch of shirts lined up that me and kids 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:39.120 super we're like creating my homie from Brooklyn. But um 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:41.640 so that was one of them, you know what I'm saying. 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:44.160 And what was what was hilarious about that was that 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:48.480 I was targeting the white kids in the suburbs who 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:52.200 are doing that type of ship because for no other reason, 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.720 then they heard it in a song and they think 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:59.319 that that's cool or whatever. And so you tried this 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.400 while the addictive drug for the sake of trying to 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:04.480 fit into a lifestyle you're not even you don't have 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:08.160 any business trying to fit into. And oftentimes you try 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:09.880 to fit into a lifestyle that a rapper is given 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:11.840 to you, and he's not even really living lifestyle exactly. 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:13.920 So now you're geting addicted to those drugs and now 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.719 you're addicted, but you're addicted off of being impressionable to 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:21.640 artists that you shouldn't be idolizing like that Future didn't 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.640 use drugs for three years and he was making that 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.760 type of music. It did nothing for me because I 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.679 don't I didn't buy into it in the first place. 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:32.880 I don't think this is the entertainment industry, Like if 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.720 these rappers were doing but I never thought he got 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.360 that hot either. But it's like, I love but what 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.199 was the black now? But thinking about it's like if 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.160 these rappers were doing the drugs that they were saying 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:49.880 they were doing, they wouldn't have a career like you 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:55.439 see the ones that do it and the Yeah, I 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.719 think the futures fired to I didn't buy into it, 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.000 so it didn't affect me. I was just kind of like, uh, 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:03.360 when I really think that he was doing what was 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.880 the backlash to that picture? And they thought they thought 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:08.839 that we kind of know, but they thought that I 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:12.719 was making a joke in ridiculing addicts, like you don't 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:14.360 know it's a disease. I said, no, I know, it's 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.439 a disease. Y'all keep overlooking chapter one though, you want 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.760 to go to chapter two and say, well he's addicted. Yeah, 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.000 now he is nobody talking about the cause when you 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:23.920 go to chapter one and talk about why these mothers 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:27.120 are And I was not talking about the people who 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:31.360 have PTSD literally PTSD from being in uh poverty stricken 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.439 places and dealing with funked up ship and traumatizing events. 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.400 I'm'm talking about those people. I was talking about the 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:36.920 white kids in the suburbs. And why do I know that? 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:38.160 Because I grew up with them and I went to 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:39.920 college with them for a year, and I had a 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.959 best friend who we would go to the party and 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:44.439 he'd be like, yo, you think I should snort this 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:46.360 or pop? And I would be like no. I was 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.439 his crunch of reality, Like what are you talking about? No? 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.199 In short thing when I left school, He's addicted to 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.480 Opius and then Heroin and Roxy's the whole ship. So 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.679 it's like, I'm talking about those kids who literally have 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.240 no reason to be doing it other than it's the 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.520 thing to do. I'm talking about the PTSD people who 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.440 like need serious help. I'm not talking about y'all, And honestly, 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.560 I'm talking about chapter one. Y'all want to keep saying 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.160 addiction is a disease. Yes, can y'all go to chapter one? 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.000 Why did you pick it up in the first place? 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:16.679 Tell me really, why no one wants it? No one 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.560 wants to say, Well, tell me really why that's always 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.439 that it's like Heroin but pills. I think I think 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.160 that's what it could be. There's so many versions of 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.280 these pills. I'm glad I'm not in that world, but 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.480 I think that that's a conversation that needs to be had, 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.240 Like people need to start getting to the root of 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.760 the issue. Everyone wants to just say they want to 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.280 skip over that and say, well, is addicted to disease. 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.440 He needs help. Yeah, but like to prevent it again 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:43.280 from happening, why don't we get to why he did 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.800 it in the first place? And like that's all Like 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:51.160 was my approach harsh? But honestly, yes, for sure. Oh 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.840 and then there was there was tweets that like why 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.480 I was saying need lean right like twelve and I've 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.160 never addressed this right, So people try to pull that 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.200 out like you're like, people think that I was an attic, 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:03.800 Like you're an at it just like yo, y'all are 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:08.079 fucking insane. Um, what it was is that it was 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.640 something like that, uh me, my homie went in the studio, 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.719 was faded. Uh we're broke, we're off, And we're like, 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:19.240 man that it sounds funn Yeah, We're like, you know, 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:20.959 because it was just like it was in future and 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.160 honestly was future and all these people and we're like, man, 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.880 that just sounds that just sounds finn Okay, y'all who 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:27.920 got to leave in Atlanta. We never end up finding 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:31.280 it though, and honestly, honestly, honestly, you know what, was 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:34.480 crazy and shout out to my fucking homie to call 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:36.959 my homies. This is weird because he's way older than me, 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:40.040 like an o G. But we knew he would have it, 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.480 so we went to him. It's actually I've never told 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.240 this story. So we went to him. We pulled up 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:46.440 on him because we're like, yo, we want to try 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:51.360 to leave, right. We go to him and he's like, nah, 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:57.800 I'm not gonna get that for you. Like yah, man, 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:03.600 what age nineteen nineteen something like that. He's a real 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:11.720 nig after supposed to be able to get you drugs. Yeah, 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.840 but that's how you know, like now he was actually 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:18.240 on something like yo, yeah, like here's some weeds, because 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.240 I would think he was, but I've never I've never 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.360 told that story. But that's also how I know, Like 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:29.720 I know it's about being impressionable because I once was impressionable, 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.040 where like me and my homies were like, yo, hold on, 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.400 like fuck it, you're sitting around, you're broke, you're in 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.720 the basement in the studio. I'm talking about foregr followers 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.400 like you're just broke and you're like, fucking man, maybe 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.480 that should might make the music be I like. And 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.440 so the curiosity, I know people did that for sure, 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:47.800 and the curiosities takes you to the place for like, yo, 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.680 let me like look into that. But then luckily, like 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.200 I had, you know, a big homie was like, I'm 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.640 not even I'm not even getting after you all. And 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:57.640 then honestly, once I went to sleep and woke up, 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.920 we were like, yeah, I'm done. Why what then am I? 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:01.920 You know what I'm saying, I don't really know better 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.240 because you know, I do get I don't drunk sometimes, 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.280 but when I see these kids on Instagram at three 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:10.760 o'clock in the afternoon and they're just leaning and spit 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.960 coming out of the mouths, it concerns me, like as 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:15.640 an older person, you know what I'm saying, and I 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.200 know that. The thing about it is, I have to 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:20.520 be careful of what I say to these kids because 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:24.400 whatever you say, if if if I say something, they 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.520 can react back and they say they can always say 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:30.320 they always say fuck you, old head. And I'm like, damn, 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:37.200 I don't want to be called old. Gonna squeeze, you know, 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:45.280 old is a compliment. I'm trying to say so I 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:48.160 because I heard you say this. It was like a 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:52.800 Charles Waffie thing on one part of me. Once the 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.880 one million percent agree with you and say point out 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:56.680 to each of every one of them, I got pointed 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.480 out that I didn't think Future was getting high like 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:00.800 that on Sway Show, and then it was like he 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.040 kind of he kind of said that like the next 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.280 three weeks after that. But anyway, what I'm trying to 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.960 say is for certain certain things, I do feel like 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.720 I got a responsibility. Like if I see I don't 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:12.640 feel like I should do it publicly, but I feel 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:14.800 like I should reach out seeking one of the dudes 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:16.800 they was on Instagram. But then there's a part of 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.880 me that says, this dude don't even know who the 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:23.880 funk I am. This call might not even be taken 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.320 as a respect call. This call might be be taken 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.520 as to let that because if you ain't on my 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:32.880 mom my playing failed like sometimes me um trying to 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.080 give you advice comes across as me trying to check you, 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.120 And I'm not trying to check you. I'm just trying 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:39.160 to tell you I've been through this. I've been through 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.920 through my father, through my family being addicted to heroin. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.960 Lean is the same exact thing. So we we had 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.440 a whole we had a whole campaign against Lean at 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:53.080 one point, and it was real because we also allow 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.280 Young Dolph to come up here and we let him 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.960 get high right in front of us, so we're just there. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.880 We've had Yeah, it wasn't just young Dog. We've had 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.280 a cop. And then the other thing that we we 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.680 I think we skip over sometimes is and tell me 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:13.800 if I'm wrong. Lean didn't start with future. These guys M. 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:19.359 D J. Screwing and my dog, but they didn't know 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:23.600 how lethal it was. We didn't know to Pipsie. Right 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:27.520 after Pipsie then knew because nobody was telling them, hey guys, 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.920 that's sucking Harold. So then that ship went. That ship 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:35.280 went mainstream with Little Wayne. Yeah, with the Caesar or 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:40.359 was that just Lean went mainstream? Okay? Little Wayne? That 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:41.680 was just like a Little Wayne is one of my 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.399 favorite rappers ever. But like, like that's the thing you 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.000 are looking currently at a rapking. That is a bunch 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.440 of babies of Little Wayne. From the face tasks to 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:55.520 the Dazzle, It's all a bunch of little wands. Look 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.560 at every one of these little twenty one year olds. 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.760 It's all little Wayne wannabes. That's why it's like, no, 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.840 just go to the real thing. H y'all are like 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.560 y'all live a little Wayne Free himself of Lean as well, 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.520 probably did. But like that's like, I mean, I think 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.840 currently though I'm saying I think, I'm hopefully sure. I'm 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:16.040 not sure, but like he said, hopefully yeah. My other 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:19.320 thing too, is that it's it's one thing to say 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.680 I have a problem, I'm indicted. It's sucked up. That's 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:24.440 one thing. And I like and I hear you and 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.080 that's sucked up. It's a whole another thing when you start, 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:32.760 uh using substance abuse as a marketing tool, When you 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.760 start when your merch is a Lean bottle on it, 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:38.399 or when you post on the ground look at me 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:43.639 smiling next to lean, It's like, bro, like, I'm not stupid. 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:45.120 You can fool the ten year olds and the twelve 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:48.399 yeards that follow you, but you know that you posting 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:51.280 a picture with four Lean bottles smiling is going to 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:56.080 get more likes. Then your song does spin that somewhere 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.760 else before and reality, that's one thing you're right with 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:02.640 an other thing is lean is so expensive? Ye, that's 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.480 the thing. I think they're flooring and as a show 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:09.200 of wealth, well, that's even worse. You are flexing all 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:12.679 the things that wealth and hip hop to me have degraded. 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:16.760 But I just think like because at that point, well, 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:18.480 and then I have a problem with the people that 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:20.880 do that and then try and say that they care 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.719 about the youth, like I'm helping them. It's like, no, bro, 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.359 because if you know anything about kids, it is uh, 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:31.080 I do as you do, not as you say. Everyone. 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:33.560 You don't have a time to show everyone, you know, 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:37.280 it would happen like I would come home with hickies, right, 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.280 I would come home with I was sixteen seventeen, come 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:42.720 home with higgies, and my dad would get super piste 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.480 because I have a younger sister, and so he was like, 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:49.200 you can't tell her. Now, maybe it's extreme, but whatever 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.000 it is is an analogy for the sake of the conversation. 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:53.000 But he would say, you can't tell her do as 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.639 I say, not as I do, because it's just not 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.120 how it works. So I learned that from an early age, 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.040 just with that always stuck in my head and to 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.160 try to apply it like I can't. I can't say 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:06.600 don't do uh oh, I care about the kids and whatever, 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:08.680 and yeah, man, y'all can't be doing drugs. That's just 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:10.600 gonna suck you up. Stay off the ship. Here I 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:12.680 am with lean and buy my T shirt with leaning 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:14.880 my face on it, like y'all. Look, y'all are ridiculous. 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:16.440 That's how I know you don't actually give a funk. 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:18.920 Your actions tell me you don't give a funk, like 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.520 you can say it all day long. But I'm not slow. 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.119 These people might be slow and I'm not. I'm just 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:25.639 not the one to keep my mouth close about it. 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.080 And if that makes me the bad guy for calling 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:35.800 out dumb ship, so be it, because that's true. But 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:38.240 it's like, and y'all have no that has no longevity anyway, 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.000 fake should never last. And that's how first of all, 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.800 that lifestyle has no longevity. Being a drug addict has 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.919 no longevity period and let alone as a career, let alone, 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.320 that's just like, that's all you have to offer. And 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.920 that and I feel like what's crazy to even segue 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:58.080 is you look at uh absolutely untimely tragic death of 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:01.120 a nipsey Hustle. They kind of put like, I've been 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.200 a psychotic fan of Nipsey Hustle for right there, because 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:06.640 you know what's the crazy ship? When I google you, Yeah, 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:09.400 most of the time you did interviews was right after 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:13.960 mac Miller's death. So know what I'm saying is like 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.680 like when I looked at the timeline, you know the timelines, 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:19.119 it was a lot of interviews that popped up. It 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:21.560 was actually about mac Miller's death. So I was wonderment. 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:24.040 I was like, wow, became and now this is after 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:27.960 nip Yeah, and like I'm a really huge, huge fan 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:31.399 of Nipsy and I have been for since I heard 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:33.680 the marathon in December twenty time when it came out. 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:36.520 You know what I'm saying, type of ship. But when 0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:39.160 you when you have a death like that, it kind 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:41.879 of puts it on perspective because it's very like that 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:44.160 was the real it was the first thing you thought about. 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:47.280 I just couldn't believe it. I woke up because my 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:50.239 sleep schedules fucked, so I was asleep and my mom 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:52.080 knew how much I funk with him, so she called 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:55.080 my manager to like go wake like wake him up. 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:58.479 So I woke up to like fifty group taxing all 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.280 these and I'm like, what the like, there's no way, 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:05.480 there's no way, Um, but that ship I was. I 0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:08.400 cried every day for a fucking week for a week 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:14.040 straight because it's a it's Nancy never had a top 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:17.800 ten Billboard hit, Nipsy never had Uh. Nipsey did more 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:20.520 albums the week he died, and he didn't when he 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:24.879 dropped it. And the first week numbers when he was 0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:27.120 alive didn't match the first week numbers when he died, 0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:30.960 and he deserves all this love and more and and 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:34.399 the and the reality is that, um, what it goes 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:36.560 to shows that numbers don't reflect impact. That's why I 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:39.480 said that when I treated it whenever, But because Nincy 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:41.720 didn't have the top ten hits or whatever, but look 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:44.640 at the impact. Why because he was saying same ship, 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:47.440 Because you know what, it's one of these fucking little 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:51.800 Instagram entertainer as rappers who just the whole ship is 0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:54.840 just gimmicks of lean this and I'm making songs about 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.600 my chains. It's like it sounds funked up. But if 0:22:57.680 --> 0:22:59.920 y'all died, what are you leaving behind for the world? 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.600 Not ship? What did you like, when we listen to you, 0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.160 what do we want to go do? Most of y'all 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:08.480 have fans who, after they listen to you, want to 0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:11.760 go just do some funk shit. Go pop with this, 0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:16.160 Go do Nipsey. Have people wanted to go start businesses, 0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:20.080 influence their community ownership, Like you know what I'm saying 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:22.359 without having the top ten songs. So that's how you 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:24.280 know it's not about that. It's about what the funk 0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:26.359 y'all are talking about. That's why I always be saying 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:29.480 like y'all can do all the drug marketing tools and 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:31.480 do all the gimmicks, but that ship will not last 0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:35.760 because it's simply has no lasting effect on life. You 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:38.240 can't apply it to you. You can't apply some of 0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.800 these people's songs to your longevity of your life. What 0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:43.920 I'm saying, Nipsey left behind gems that I'm gonna be 0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:46.240 using when I'm ninety. You know what I'm saying, Like 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:49.560 he left like I was a not a big reader, 0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:52.840 but what I did read was really impactful self help books. 0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:56.520 It was Napoleon Hills and Deepox. Yeah, so it was 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.480 that type of ship I felt like when I Alchemist, Yeah, 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:02.520 for sure, for for agreements, the secret all that ship. 0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:05.960 So when I first heard Nipsey, that's I felt like 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:09.040 I was getting another self help book, you know what 0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:12.159 I'm saying, And so I don't And I feel like 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:16.119 that's the whether or not that's what your agenda should 0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.800 be as an artist. That's what I gravitate towards and 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.680 I feel like that's what That's what leaving the world 0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:24.280 off is a better place is about. Because Nipsey left 0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:26.680 the world off. The world is a better place because 0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:29.000 of Nipsey. Like Nipsey didn't come into the world and 0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:32.040 make it worse. Some of these artists are literally coming 0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:35.760 in and poisoning the youth. They're poisoning the culture. They're 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:38.200 doing all these things, and it's like it's insane to me. 0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:41.200 But once again, no one has balls. Everyone is scared. 0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:42.680 Everyone wants to be buddy buddy, so no wants to 0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:44.720 say so that's fine. I'll be the one to say something. 0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:47.040 Y'all can do whatever you want. But it's too late. 0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:49.600 Already got my fans. Is too late. Then you post 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:55.440 card from the Fords of the Staples too late. I 0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:57.200 know you don't. I know you probably wouldn't want to 0:24:57.240 --> 0:25:00.680 bring this up, but I just feel like it's it's 0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:02.720 funked up the way ship went down. But we were 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.680 supposed to have we're not supposed to. But Nipsey could 0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:07.840 have potentially been on drink Chat the same day. We 0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:10.760 had bird Man the same day. So when we started 0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:13.560 the interview with bird Man, what happened was because I 0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:15.640 got notes for you too right here. But I want 0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:18.160 to do I want to be as naturalist possible at first, 0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:21.000 so I leave my phone away. Sure, so as I 0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:23.119 left my phone a where he was hitting me, but 0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:24.879 I had it on silom because you know what I mean. 0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:28.000 So we're supposed to do him pause pause, have him 0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:30.520 the same day like he was. That's the one thing 0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:32.920 I respected about two. He was one of the people 0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:37.040 that that actually showed love to the elder generator, you know, 0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:40.560 because sometimes I look at the young kids and they're like, man, 0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:43.000 suck them old dudes, And I can't knock them because 0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:45.520 I remember me being younger saying fuck them old dudes. 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:47.639 So I don't complain. So you know, I don't believe 0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:49.720 that about you. You never really because you might have 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:54.240 said that in the hood, telling you I said it. No, No, 0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:57.800 I'm raised with a lot more respect you might have 0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:00.800 in the hood. Everyone him. No, no, But there's a 0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:03.840 couple of artists that I met with legends, and I 0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:08.320 was like, some of those guys the legends. But so 0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:12.680 my natural reaction is always to be like, when a 0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:15.000 new guy comes out and he's the ship for you know, 0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:17.600 two weeks, I don't say what's up to him? I don't. 0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:19.440 I just let him back because I see so many 0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:21.480 people come and go that I just sit back and 0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:23.800 I get cocky on me. I let you be cocky. 0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:27.239 I don't. I let it all go. But that's one 0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:28.800 of the things that I like about you, Like the 0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.280 way you give it up to Scott's story, the way 0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.760 Nipsey gave it up for us. You know what I'm saying, 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:37.760 The way even if you even coming out here, that's 0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.240 showing the initiative that because there's some hip hop ship, 0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:42.280 don't mean supposed to know about drinking chance unless you 0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:45.200 But like I told you all, like the first second 0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:47.320 I saw this come out, Like when y'all launched this, 0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.720 I was like, this is the greatest idea. It's because 0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:54.400 it's because the basis of it is natural, because that's 0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:57.000 this is really what like the cameras and anything like, 0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:58.960 this is what we would actually do to people are like, yea, 0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:00.520 you know what we want to canct We want to 0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:03.320 link what will be doing drinking, smoking, talking? Ship? Fine, 0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:05.680 put the cameras on what you're gonna get the same ship? 0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.000 You feel me? And that's what I prided myself on too, 0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.440 is just authenticity. Like my mom will tell you, my 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:12.120 friends will tell you. The girls i'd be fu will 0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:16.720 tell you this is what it is, said the girls. 0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:23.480 I mean, he knocks it down, That's who serious. I 0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:26.520 was so proud of that man, so proud. Let me 0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:29.680 tell you to tell you something. I am proud one 0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:34.400 thing that people can't hate on you. And the thing is, um, 0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:38.680 the thing is you you. This is a crazy ship. 0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.359 You said something, but I said it on my record. 0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:44.040 I said it on my record. I said, we gassed 0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:47.000 these artists to be these artists. And when these artists 0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:52.800 start acting like the artists, you say, and you said that, yeah, 0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.360 I said it on my record. Big change. But I'm 0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.359 I'm re charging you and I'm like this motherfucker he 0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:02.600 understands it. The thing is, it's just like being a DJ, right, 0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:06.040 Just like being a DJ right, they'll tell you you're 0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:10.399 the closing DJ, so it's naturally for you to be 0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:12.919 mad at the opening in DJ playing all the records 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:16.880 that you're gonna play, so they gass you your DJE. 0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.160 And then when you start acting like the DJ, they 0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:23.879 critique and saying, oh, he's Holly, he's Hollywood. What's insane. 0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:25.960 It's almost like for an analogy, it's like it's like 0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:27.920 a fan looking at you on the come up and 0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:29.879 they're like, man, I can't wait to get on you. 0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:31.879 Get out of all the things he's wrapping up. You 0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:37.639 start rocking those. You don't gotta rock those? What are 0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:42.640 you talking about? That's why I said, in a FLEXTIONI style, Uh, 0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:44.640 either love me? What do I say? You love me? 0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:47.080 I hate your supporter? Either you either love to me. 0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:49.800 You either love to see me shine or you don't. 0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.600 No kind of sort of you know sometimes supporter. But 0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:56.760 it's like you can't just be like, oh my love 0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:01.400 is conditional. I want to see you, but only under 0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:03.960 these conditions. Don't shine on me. Don't shine on me. 0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:06.720 But you know what happens with insecure people, You're shining 0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.479 regardless shines on them because they just feel like anyone 0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:11.920 shining is sucking up my shine. It's like, no, you 0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:14.840 insecure a piece of ship. Go yell at your fucking mirror. 0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:16.880 It's have nothing to do with me another drink, God 0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:23.040 damn it. But there's definitely a culture of fans that 0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:25.560 they just your fans on the come up, and then 0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:30.320 they that fans because they didn't really want you like that. 0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:33.240 They wanted this part of you the second and went here, 0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:35.680 I gotta go find someone new too. It's like new pussy. 0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:37.520 You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna tell you, I'm 0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:39.840 gonna that's how let me looking at you. It's voters 0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.400 like the consumer. A lot of the consumers are volts 0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:45.000 and hyenas. They just pounce down on you when it's 0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.840 like convenient, like eat you up. The second they've done 0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.080 feasting on you and there's some other new ship going 0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:52.520 on over here to the right, they're like cool, And 0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:54.520 why it fox up artists because artists be thinking that 0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:57.080 that love is real, right, so they put out something. 0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.320 They put out a song, a blue face or want 0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.080 any one of these people who have a song going 0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:04.280 crazy again. All this love is going nuts. A couple 0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:06.200 of months going nuts and so the artists like, man, 0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:09.600 this is I'm lit right. They don't realize though, that 0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.480 in three months there will be some other person with 0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:16.120 another song that the vulture is ak the consumer world 0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:19.040 just the look up and be like and start feasting 0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:21.800 on these people, and then your left just fucking hung 0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:24.440 out to dry, like damn, I got nothing in me left, 0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:26.560 And now I didn't set my career up because I 0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:29.720 thought that this was the moment. I thought this moment 0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.440 would last forever. And it's like but but there's also 0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.360 the snobby fan. The snobby fan is the one that 0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:37.480 I like this guy on the come up because nobody 0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:42.920 knows about him. I'm on that new ship. Motherfuck. You 0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.080 know like that too. I used to love Floyd Mayweather 0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:47.000 when he was underground. Whenever you want to start like 0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:50.120 like Floyd Mayweather, I was like, damn that everybody knows. 0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.360 Let me tell you. I'm gonna tell I was explaying 0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:58.640 this to ear fan um earlier. One of the times 0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:02.360 I collaborated where I actually felt like we were trading fans, 0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:05.000 because that's the thing about doing a collaboration, right, like 0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.960 sometimes you know we're all due respect. Like I didn't 0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:10.640 want to do records with certain artists because I felt 0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:14.480 like we had the same audience anyway. Right, So so 0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:17.120 the thing about it is I would do it either 0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:20.880 because I have respect for the artists or have respect 0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:22.960 for the situation, or it was a check in vols, right. 0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:25.520 But I started to notice it would be ill like, 0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:27.640 you know, me doing records with like a style's p 0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:31.040 or camera, which is dope, but it's still it wasn't 0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:34.080 really trading fans like it was all both fans coming 0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.640 in your current were pleasing our current fans a great 0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:40.640 which is always what it's about. But sometimes you want 0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:43.920 to step out. The only two times in my career 0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.400 where I actually felt like I traded fans, it was 0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.400 really two times. One time, I know this is terrible 0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.520 to say, but I gotta say, uh is when I 0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:54.960 did my one and only record with jay Z on 0:31:55.360 --> 0:32:07.080 our Kelly record. So sorry, so I abode you should 0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:11.080 have got that secret. But it's the only I'm actually 0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:13.120 proud of it because the only record I ever did 0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:17.120 with jay Z, we Ride met jay Z and camera 0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:22.200 met jay Z and camera. But I could actually tell 0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:24.640 you that for me doing that record, like and there 0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:28.600 wasn't no video to it, but but you know, but 0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:32.680 but old ladies started to want to know, yes, he 0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:42.080 has a different crowd. This is lady, you gotta relax 0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:44.960 and that. But what I'm saying is I started to 0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:48.000 realize that that that it brings me a different reudio. 0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:51.200 The only other time I had got bought a different 0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:56.480 audience is when I did though I literally like people 0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:58.320 can judge me for what it is. I told people, 0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:00.120 this is gonna be the biggest genre of music. Can 0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:01.720 you years ago? Thank you by the way, you can 0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:06.560 clap have proof of this. They have proof for this. 0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:09.000 But what I'm saying is that was the first time 0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:11.320 when when I was walking through the airport, it was 0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:14.920 old yah daddy Yankee going down the Yankee and I'm 0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.520 like yeah, and it was like it was like it 0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:20.600 was ill because like you actually got to see you 0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:26.360 tradeing audience. That's what expanding your audience is better said expect. 0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:28.719 And that's what I think this very moment is right now, 0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:30.600 Like you know what I'm saying, this is big for me. 0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:34.840 That there's two other big moments for me. This is 0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:37.120 because like I would like we were talking, I respect, 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:41.160 I respect people who make it. Y'all's point right, like 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:44.360 that we independent too, just so you know God, damnit, 0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:55.360 we independent to God masters, the masters, you know what 0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:57.440 I mean. But you know what else? I do everything 0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.760 for the game and love of the game. I don't 0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:02.360 really care about the points. I never did. I never 0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.080 had a lot of people get rich and stop trying 0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:06.360 because the rich and the money is the points. I 0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.279 just loved the game, so I record because I love 0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:11.799 the game. If I loved if I was only doing 0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.000 this ship for the money, I would have stopped the 0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:17.279 second that Fortress came out. Let me tell you it was. 0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:19.360 It was clearly not for that. I paid my bills 0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:22.080 one time for eighteen months in the Vans. One time. 0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.280 It was like eighteen months. You know. My coundars suggested 0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:28.000 it and paid my bills eighteen months in the Vans, 0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:30.960 the most viserable time of my life. Why you like, 0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:33.080 I gotta man, you gotta cut my A T and 0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:35.520 T phone build off, and you gotta keep me straight. 0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:43.680 You gotta keep me man. I when you lose your hustle, 0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.200 like I lost my hustle, like realized, because that was 0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.160 it was pointing. I was too content. I was so 0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:50.560 I had everything like and it was like I had 0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:53.720 six cars on bills paid for eighteen months. I literally 0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:55.880 didn't know what to do. But that's my life. You know, 0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:58.400 the track of bills is what it was. No, I 0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:00.840 paid it eighteen months and want to track. If you 0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.640 don't know that, you gotta pay. My thing is every month, 0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:06.200 I gotta feel like I gotta make up you lost 0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:09.600 when you when you lose that quota, you lose your hustle. 0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.000 You don't realize let let me add see. But that 0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.040 to me, that's point driven. My quota is my own 0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:19.319 personal satisfaction. Like I need to feel like my jump 0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:23.520 shot just improved every month. Like the money I know 0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:28.120 is Anteller, that's right, whatever, But I understand that hustle too. 0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:31.360 But then it's like to me like I'll never stop 0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.680 because I'm never content with the level. I always think 0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:38.440 my overall can go up. If I get to overall, 0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:39.920 be like yeah, but I eventually, if I just go 0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:42.399 hard on the studio, I'll be a hundred. That's will 0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:46.040 keeps me going and you're still doing everything recording. I 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.280 still like now I have I've been working with other producers, 0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:51.440 but yeah, know when it's like the studios in my house, 0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:52.879 I didn't build it in my house. So I still 0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:57.799 walk down said blue Frame. That was a wild night. 0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:00.960 That was a wild Now you know who blue Frame is, right, 0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:04.239 strip Atlanta's the best strip flem in Atlanta. I mean, 0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:09.680 I know Magic City. I'm no Magic City to for Buflame. 0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:12.480 You know what Magic City? Sometimes they'll be acting like 0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:15.080 it's for the terrorists, like sometimes you know, I went 0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:16.839 back and I'm not talking about the nineties Magic City. 0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:20.040 Don't get It's like it's like Magic City was not 0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:22.520 for the tourists. Well no, no, no, no, I'm saying 0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:24.640 now like blue Flame is like more like you see 0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:27.960 killing Mike there like that in the daytime by himself 0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.719 with a midgic like for real. I don't know why 0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:34.120 I said that. I don't know what. Let that ride 0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:39.239 with the doorf is the correct world dof little people, 0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:42.799 little people like yeah people, Okay, I'm not getting because 0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:46.600 I'm gonna get canceled because the Dwarf. I have no idea. 0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:48.960 What's your calls. I'm not saying anything though. You You 0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:52.040 was like I was hating out with comic the other day, 0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:55.120 right and j I don't know, now you hang out 0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:59.279 with him? Just you gotta get over it. I'm just like, 0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:02.960 I don't drink that. Did you guys figure that I 0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:07.640 didn't ask, but he asked, But he said to me, 0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.560 he said, to me, I asked my question. He said, 0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:14.920 I'm the king. Uh, you know, avoiding controversy. Oh, that's 0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:17.520 why he's not coming on. Drink. Just don't listen. It's 0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:20.320 about drink chance. But he said, I'm the kid on 0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:23.840 contrary contrary to the way, he said, you're almost like 0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:26.560 the exact opposite. For sure, I'll tell you, you know, 0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:28.799 he said he's the king. He said, he's the king 0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:33.040 of a boarding like I'll welcome it because if if 0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:36.080 when the dust settles, the truth still remains, which it 0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.359 always does when I'm down and I got I got 0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:40.640 my fans, so I have confidence and I find solace 0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:43.439 and faith in that, like y'all can't do. Y'all can't 0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:47.759 take that away from me. Whatever happens, it's pulling on 0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:52.000 the drink. He said that four times. Come on and 0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:58.320 then talk him on. That's good, he's into the interview. 0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:00.640 You say that into the interview, what I do. I 0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.000 really want to make that point for the for everyone watching, 0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.720 like it's really about the game and not the points 0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:07.520 like I feel like this NBA players who will play 0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:09.959 for free, those wants to get rings, like I feel 0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:12.719 like Kobe would have played for free and now the 0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:16.480 money is they still got to You have to win 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:20.400 in order to leave. People don't want to lead a 0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:23.719 follow up person, right, bro, I don't even have But 0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:27.040 you think you all in love with the game. I 0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:31.120 don't feel like you saw us as an example. Yeah, 0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.560 we did this for eight months, not a child, nine months, 0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:41.839 nine months? Big want to check and what we knew, 0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:44.960 we knew, we knew what we need, then we knew 0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.040 what we loved, what we were doing. What I'm saying, 0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:50.799 that's look, that's beyond everything. That's what matters. What I'm saying. 0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:56.040 You're right, well, that's why I like, that's why instantly 0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:59.920 down for this, not because of the points, not as 0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:04.520 anyone around me did. I Karen symbol too, Shoutoutli was 0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:15.279 a superhero. She's a superwoman with woman, any woman, she's 0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:18.320 a superhero for real. What the reason why I did this? 0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:19.839 Like I said, you can ask her, you guys, ask 0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:23.040 anyone around me. I never once said, well how many views? 0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:26.000 Is that? It wasn't about the point. It was about, Nah, 0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:28.880 I love the game of the ship and I love 0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:31.520 to play and I love I love ship that I 0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:33.040 just funk with. So if I just sunk with it, 0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:35.200 I do it, no question. I've been fuck with me. Also, 0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:37.920 it wasn't about, oh, well, can you tell me to 0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:40.160 reach one type of promote? I don't give a fuck. 0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:43.719 It's not like one or two fans. But it's like 0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:45.920 it doesn't matter you feel me because like I just 0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:47.920 feel like when you love the game, if I love 0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:49.239 to go to the gym and work on my jump 0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:51.880 shot for the sake of loving my jump shot. This 0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:54.200 is why I say Steph Curry's sucking. People love Steph 0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:57.640 Curry's dad was in the NBA. So Steph Curry is 0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:00.000 so good at basketball not because he needed to make money. 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.400 He's so good at basketball because he really just actually 0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:04.640 knows basketball. He wants to overprove himself. Let me just 0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.719 get in the game, not the point. So look, and 0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:11.480 it's the patient. I'm sorry for this shot, brother, So 0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:15.800 this is about this research. Listen, you know, please in 0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:19.040 our show, we celebrate your motherfucking life while you're here. 0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:20.560 We don't want you to go away and be like 0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.520 this motherfucker saw the Staples Center and we didn't tell him. 0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:26.600 How proud of to your motherfucking face, we are proud 0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:28.920 of you, brother. We see you come people. Let's come 0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:31.200 in this motherfucking game, stop this ship out and we 0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:33.560 respect you and we got your motherfucking back. So I 0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:39.560 lout to each other, it's not that bad because he drink, 0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:47.160 he drinks away, he wants more, he wants more later. Yeah, 0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:52.359 kind of like second another one, but keeping but get 0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:56.319 him the same amount you gave me, bro, just keeping 0:40:56.400 --> 0:41:01.520 eating this time. I'm out at that. So it's crazy. 0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:03.200 When we first met each other, I was the big guy, 0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:06.759 never drinking and then I hate now I hate hate, 0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:12.239 but he drinks dezotic bears. He drinks this, and he'd 0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:25.759 be drinking kinda kinda kinda let's be honest kindikin and 0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:31.400 cords like everything I've been bringing. Were you from New 0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:36.680 York City? Like Stella was desotic? Bro, that's you're all 0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:38.400 that Stella they come with the orange thing on it. 0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:43.759 That's my mother, listen, I mean from New York City? Yeah, 0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:49.439 god mother, kind of kid buddy wins and cords like, yeah, 0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:51.120 I ever tell you you know what I got was 0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:54.960 like story with big pun Big story. Big Punt used 0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:58.040 to make everybody walk in his session, drink a Holese 0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:01.800 Cords light and then a fucking hens. Yeah, but this 0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:03.920 was horrible because this it was just it was an 0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:06.560 engineer guy. He walks in you can tell us engineer 0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:09.600 and scared the death because punish, you know, and he 0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:11.480 got a gun on his waist. He's like, it's kind 0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:14.520 of crazy guy, but he's so funny that you you 0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:19.839 forget that he's crazy, so so funny goes to the guy. Um, 0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:22.560 you know, everybody got to do it. So he makes 0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:25.800 you ll drink a cause like most horrible thing in 0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:28.240 the world. You gotta piss me a bottle, no camp, 0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:31.680 the whole joint, the whole joint, and you take a 0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:33.640 shot of Hennessey and then he just let you go. 0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:37.560 That's terrible. And then got intro. I mean, if you 0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:39.760 think about it, to the head, to the head together, 0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:47.320 to the head engineer. I feel so sorry for the 0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:49.600 engineer because the engineers looking at it. He had to 0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:53.480 do it to everybody had to do. He me like, 0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:57.960 nor drink at all, and I'm like, I'm not paying 0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:07.719 you haven't years, I can't do the shot. I can't 0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:15.520 front he had like that recovering. I'm just saying, there 0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:20.239 was wonderful stories. I got onto Medelo's by this Venezuelan chicken. 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:26.919 Brooklyn was this restaurant soundstic she was, she was okay 0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:29.799 venezuellow because there was this shout out to kids. Super 0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:31.840 One of my homies has his own clothing grand company, 0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:34.719 whole thing in Williamsburg, and I was. I would go 0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:36.160 up there for months on end and make a lot 0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:38.120 of songs and whatever. He had a studio in the 0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:40.400 basement and I would sleep on the couch. There's no windows, 0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:43.920 you know. I talking about that grind baby, Yeah, like 0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:46.120 it was. There was a Chinese spot around the corner 0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:49.000 that I would just get food from for five dollars, 0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:51.120 like twice a day, and then someone spot me on 0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:54.520 the deli sandwich. There was this restaurant across the street 0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:58.480 called Mexico to dollars that had all these Venezuelan girls. 0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.799 They were definitely on the pain, which I than with Venezuela. Yeah, 0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:04.080 so this is why I chucked up. So it was 0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:06.960 Mexico two thousand, y'all underpaying the Venezuelan girls, you know, 0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:13.760 we know. No, that was a restaurant reshap bang crazy 0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:17.440 waitresses though done bad. So like there was a fleet 0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:20.480 offul so there was like six of us across the 0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:23.080 street where like, well I just high, like you know 0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:25.640 what I mean. So there was there was one girl 0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:29.520 who put me onto Modela's and also taught me just 0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:31.200 like the only thing I need to know in Spanish, 0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:34.520 which is taught you to will you marry them? I 0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:39.960 have used that information take care of this guy side 0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:41.719 of com me. That's all my Spanish women, not that 0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:46.400 you feel me. Shout out to the I swear you Spanish, 0:44:47.800 --> 0:45:02.279 honestly somewhere possibly again time my career. Yeah, you really 0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:07.680 go right into another conversation. It's boosting me up. Come on. 0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:11.799 It gave a throw down because it was a time 0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:15.279 in my career I just got off a major. Yeah, 0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:20.480 I did another independent thing and I didn't like it. 0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:25.279 And my only route mhmm was to keep continuing with 0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:29.520 my fans was tune core. Wow, I love this. Yeah, 0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:33.560 I don't even know this tune call. But I made 0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:37.160 no money on two cords what years? This This was 0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:40.160 just like it's just it's like for your queens, get 0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:42.960 the money I think this was like you didn't let 0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:45.880 your finger involved. No. No, What it is is, my 0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:49.120 point of bringing that up is having your music on 0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:52.799 tune Core. It's equivalent to be independent to having your 0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:56.640 music and costcos having a product in costcos. What I 0:45:56.760 --> 0:46:00.080 mean by that is having your product and costcos is 0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:04.560 a big fucking deal. But people didn't. But people still 0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:05.960 have to buy it, people still have to see it, 0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.560 people who staid. So that's the part that I didn't get. 0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:11.480 I have threw out a couple of records before Empire, 0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:14.480 years before Empire. Yes, so I threw out the records 0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:17.200 expecting people to just because I'm Nori, I'm a platinum artist. 0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:20.080 I have went platinum before. I wouldn't go before. I 0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:23.080 didn't promote it. I didn't understand that. No marketing, no promotion, 0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:30.320 no marketing, distribution, not even just yea just to but 0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:34.120 we didn't have it wasn't Spotify back then, just I 0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:38.879 wounds and SoundCloud wasn't even Yeah, we're gonna talk about 0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:41.480 sound clouds. He's a kick of SoundCloud, but I haven't. 0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:44.360 So what I'm trying to say is people don't understand 0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:48.399 how hard it is because tone call anybody you're all 0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:50.839 on the same level. Well, t cores chapter two. That's 0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:54.400 the thing. Two cores Chapter two. Chapter one is understanding 0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:57.360 how to market your own product, which is like because, 0:46:57.440 --> 0:46:59.600 like you said, tone cords are like having your shi 0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:03.320 scored like Chae. Really it's like having your ship in 0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:07.160 Costco in every city and every town everywhere in the world. 0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:10.719 That's what it's really like. But nobody knows nobody, right, 0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:13.440 So then you gotta learn kind of what works, which 0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:14.919 is what took me a long time too. I could 0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:16.640 put in my tune Core right now is making twenty 0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:21.080 cents thirty cents a dolly. It wasn't like second like 0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:23.960 what much I was a millionaire. It was five four 0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:32.120 or five years of max quarters. Well, I was putting, 0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:34.400 so this is what I was doing it. First I 0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:38.320 put out eleven projects, all self produced, everything right, not 0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:40.880 on SoundCloud. This is when like it was, it was 0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:45.040 fucking like media fire, just these random no SoundCloud, file 0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:47.919 sharing ship yeah, Apple, yeah, file sharing ship. Apple music 0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:51.319 was not out, uh like you send the type ship 0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:53.640 you know, like yeah, literally that's the ship. But I 0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:55.600 would put it on tune Core and they would distribute 0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:57.839 it to the DSPs that were available, but I would 0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.840 never promote those links because my goal to get heard, 0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:04.600 not get bought. I wanted to get heard, so I 0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:06.360 would never promote It was there if you want it 0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:08.759 and you stumble on it, God bless you, feel me. 0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:11.719 But that was not it. Uh So that was to 0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:15.920 and I'm like, yeah, I've done eleven projects and I 0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:17.959 still have a thousand followers, so I need to switch 0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:21.160 some up. Most people will quit. I was like, no, 0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:24.319 I know, I'm ill self believe I need to need 0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:26.200 to switch it up. And I realized, like people are 0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:28.640 not trying to hear an album from someone they don't know, 0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:31.040 but people are always down to click on the first song. 0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:33.080 So I was like, cool, I'm gonna drop one song 0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:36.800 albums every week until I blow up one song album, 0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:39.040 which is like why every song I had a different hort. 0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:42.320 We we had that whole uh esthetic on deck. But 0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:43.800 I put out a song every week for two and 0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:47.040 a half years. So but it was like a single 0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:50.600 every single every week on sounding Now I was using SoundCloud. 0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:53.560 That was my main promotion. But you know then on 0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:56.560 my social media is I would put up h a 0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.800 little like selfie videos of me singing this ship or 0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:01.080 wrapping the ship because I'm my slow you know what 0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:03.080 I'm saying. I'm gonna use my looks to my advantage. 0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:05.400 You feel me. I know it's up. Like if y'all y, 0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:06.960 I don't know what to tell you, but I knew 0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:09.560 what periods, So like I was like, cool, if I'm 0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:12.400 if I'm dropping some singing ship, I might put up 0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:15.000 itself like I'm on something by any means necessary had 0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:17.320 a thousand followers, so like I'm trying to get on, 0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:19.319 so I would put up these selfing videos or whatever. 0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:22.200 I would trying to do all this, Uh, just stayed 0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:25.760 so locked into the social media to try and promote. 0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:27.600 And it didn't work on the first week, didn't work 0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:29.360 on the second, didn't work on the twenty five. But 0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:31.680 I made sure before I even dropped that first song 0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:33.839 that I had twenty five songs because I always said 0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:35.680 twenty six, because I always said I want to have 0:49:35.800 --> 0:49:37.439 half the I want to be half a year ahead 0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:40.600 of y'all. When you think it's the week in a 0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:42.640 roll rush, damn, you must be slowing up. No, I've 0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:45.160 been had twenty six. I got another twenty six. What 0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:47.680 made what made you not give up? Because because I 0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:49.640 thought I was so ill and I was in love 0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:53.480 with the game, but I had to be something to 0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:55.400 make you say, I'm gonna stick with it like that. 0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:59.319 It's it's just it's it's that, it's that thing that's 0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:02.120 like and I like, I'm so obsessed with it, and 0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:04.919 I have to proving you're wrong. I had to prove 0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:08.799 myself right. I couldn't sleep with the fact of giving 0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:11.360 up now when I know that I could do it. 0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:15.040 But what what taught you? Consistency though, like the idea 0:50:15.160 --> 0:50:19.160 of because doing in this, in this that WoT you 0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:21.000 answer him? Let me just tell you something because the 0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:24.760 person from my error the reason why you guys are genius. 0:50:24.920 --> 0:50:31.480 From your errors, you'll understood the artists to consumer, we 0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:35.560 didn't know that my day. Um like trying of back 0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:38.120 what you're just saying. My day we had to actually 0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:41.279 go to a label to the find our audience. What 0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:45.200 quality was so much better because there was gatekeepers and 0:50:45.280 --> 0:50:47.440 it wasn't so easy to just get on. So this 0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:50.080 pros and cons of both things. Because back then, for 0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:53.160 you to even be heard by me at seven years old, 0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:56.600 you had to be ill. You know what I'm saying now, 0:50:56.680 --> 0:51:00.920 it's just kind of like you can upload zhone the camera. Guys, 0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:06.839 you might be fired, but Minnesota and anyone in New York. 0:51:07.160 --> 0:51:09.600 But I learned from my mistakes. I learned from Yo. 0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:12.280 I dropped eleven projects that I feel like a fired, 0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:14.239 but they didn't do anything, and so I had to 0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:16.520 take a step back and understand why didn't they do anything. 0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:18.560 It wasn't the wet which is the music. It was 0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:20.279 the how it was how it was putting them out. 0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:22.880 Because one of those songs on my eighth mixtape is Gold, 0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:26.400 was being consumed. Yeah, how how I was delivering it? 0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:28.640 Because you can't tell me that a song that is 0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:31.280 now Gold, that was off my eighth of eleven mixtapes 0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:33.560 wasn't fired. Then it was the same song. It was 0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:35.800 just that it wasn't It didn't have the light on it. 0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:37.800 So I had to go and figure out how to 0:51:37.840 --> 0:51:40.919 garner attention. And I knew albums at that point after 0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:43.640 eleven times that was not it, So I was like cool. 0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:47.480 I noticed that whenever an artist dropped an album on SoundCloud, 0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:51.120 the first song had the most place and they would 0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:53.839 go down by that. The second song had less, third less, 0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.400 and then one might stick out because it's a big feature. 0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:59.600 But it was traditionally usually the first song I had 0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:02.880 the most first song on the playlist whatever it is, 0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:05.480 playlist album. Yeah, when the artists was dropping an album, 0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:07.359 the first song had the most plays. So I learned. 0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:09.560 I was like, okay, cool, that just means that everyone 0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:11.680 is down to listen to one song. So I'll just 0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:14.920 dropped one song over and over again until it blows up. 0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:18.200 And so you were like, fuck putting out the whole 0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:21.319 project just its first first. Oh yeah, they're all gonna 0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:24.120 be first all first, I'm dropping the first song on 0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:27.040 an album every week, so that's what it was. But 0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:29.840 I knew that I was always an album artist, so 0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:33.120 I knew to have an album on the side because 0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:36.239 I didn't want to blow up. Oh yeah. So the 0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:39.120 second I decided to do that, I had an album 0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:41.360 on the side of fourteen songs, and I had twenty 0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:43.600 five songs I was down to put out right, So 0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:46.640 at that point I'm playing chess. I'm super prepared because 0:52:46.920 --> 0:52:49.520 if one of these twenty five blows up, here's the album, 0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:51.000 because I didn't want to miss the moment because I've 0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:53.160 seen the artists who blow up and then scramble and 0:52:53.239 --> 0:52:55.239 rush around and wait three years to put out. Now 0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:57.200 they don't have ship, so I was like, let me 0:52:57.239 --> 0:53:01.600 make sure I have an album. Is cash money is 0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:04.319 universal calling, you know, like the only people who called 0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:06.200 and shout out to them, and I always pick them up, 0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:07.800 even if I don't sunk with the companies like that, 0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:10.239 but I always pick them up because they did reach out. 0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:13.640 It was it was Atlantic, It was Jeff Vaughn specifically 0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:16.200 who I think it's at APG, and it was a 0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:19.239 dame from from Volume and also Brian Johnson who was 0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:21.279 at Atlantic. But that was it, you know what I mean. 0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:23.640 And then you never sucked and we we kind of 0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:26.560 brought u up outside with strange music and technolog in them. 0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:30.520 So all you talk about I respected so much, But 0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:32.919 it's like I always knew that I wanted to create 0:53:32.960 --> 0:53:34.160 my own thing. I don't want to go be a 0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:36.200 part of your thing. But you knew about their things. Yeah, 0:53:36.280 --> 0:53:40.360 come on, we knew it was not your strategy. Reminds 0:53:40.400 --> 0:53:43.160 me of him, Yeah, yeah, strategy obviously you do it 0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:46.799 your way way. But we were talking about outside, right, Yeah, 0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:48.759 not like we always knew about him, you know what 0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:51.960 I'm saying, so um, but I like I learned that, 0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:53.680 you know what, I need to take a step back 0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:56.960 and really map this out and plot. Like I said, so, 0:53:57.000 --> 0:53:58.799 I had the album on the side, and I had 0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:02.399 songs in the vault before I put out my first 0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:04.879 song on SoundCloud. Right, But what made you not want 0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:08.040 to go to a unit like you said? Well, because 0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:12.520 because I studied this ship. Bro. I watched every breakfast club, 0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:15.520 I watched every everything, Like I wasn't just going into 0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:17.600 this blind. That's why I don't feel bad for artists 0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:20.720 who get taken advantage of nineteen. There's too much information, 0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:25.280 so like you'll want to all play their victim mentality. 0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:28.120 It's like, nah, bro, like you're just an idiot, And 0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:31.480 I don't feel bad for idiots. I really don't. I'm not. 0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:34.080 You know what if that's if that's one of my flaws. 0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:37.160 I don't have compassion for stupid an so fucking it 0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:41.920 slow ceriously. Yeah. So it's like you've got people like 0:54:42.000 --> 0:54:46.360 de so apartment that here and had to deal with contracts. 0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:50.080 But as a different time, different times, I'm talking about 0:54:50.080 --> 0:54:54.680 these two year olds get taking back. It's insane. You 0:54:54.719 --> 0:54:57.680 can google everything that everything you need to know you 0:54:57.760 --> 0:54:59.719 can get you can get the information. But so I 0:54:59.840 --> 0:55:02.360 was doing that, and like I said, it wasn't the 0:55:02.400 --> 0:55:06.520 twenties song song. But when you're doing here's here's another 0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:10.560 thing that people overlook. Those eleven projects were me, uh 0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:13.759 practicing my jump shot to the point I always looking 0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:15.239 at it like a video game, almost like I was 0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:17.279 a sixty overall on that first project. That's what you 0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:18.759 start out when you create a player in the video. 0:55:19.400 --> 0:55:21.880 By the time I was even putting out songs on SoundCloud, 0:55:22.200 --> 0:55:24.439 I had mastered the craft to certainly I was eighty 0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:27.640 four you feel me like I was. I was formidable. 0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:30.600 Any song at that point could have gone right, and 0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:32.800 maybe it was a ninety I'm for once of you humble, 0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:39.239 you know what I'm saying. But but so every song 0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:42.040 at that point it was of quality to go. So 0:55:42.080 --> 0:55:46.359 when you're putting out a song every week that has 0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:49.880 the potential to be a big song, whatever, it's a 0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:52.080 it's a great song, and everything is like, the mixing 0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:54.200 is down, everything is down, the craft is mastered to 0:55:54.239 --> 0:55:56.120 a certain level. When you're doing that every week for 0:55:56.160 --> 0:55:58.279 two and a half years, it's not a matter of if, 0:55:58.360 --> 0:56:00.680 it's a matter of when and I need. So I 0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:03.640 was like, look, whenever y'all are ready to give me 0:56:03.800 --> 0:56:06.440 what I know I deserve, I have the album ready, 0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:08.960 which is why when it popped off, I had the 0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:11.120 album ready. You're playing the numbers game at that point. 0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:15.000 Oh yeah, but that's still some tough ship. Like, well, 0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:18.400 the only tough part about it is the mental aspect, 0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:22.000 because look at how much most most kid work, Yes, 0:56:22.440 --> 0:56:27.120 but liked because we have friends who when I say 0:56:27.160 --> 0:56:31.320 we need, me and Buddhist looked at each other, was like, 0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:33.759 I'll be sure this is working. No, yeah, so we 0:56:33.880 --> 0:56:35.759 have I don't think we ever felt that way to be. 0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:40.800 We had it twice. Also on chapter X, Y Z 0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:43.799 or whatever. You'll have already seen success in your own 0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:48.040 individual lives, so you know that success. Like if y'all 0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:49.800 have never been successful in your life and this was 0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:52.759 your first venture in your own life, do it for fun. 0:56:52.960 --> 0:56:55.520 We didn't do this right, but imagine imagine if this 0:56:55.880 --> 0:56:58.160 was your first attempt at trying to succeed in life. 0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:01.759 You know, you're absolutely there's way more doubt involved. But 0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:05.839 now we won't just always. Uh, it's a belief thing, bro, 0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:10.960 It's a it's a artists everything you've read, because I'm 0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:15.520 telling you it's amazing an artist, because the thing about 0:57:15.560 --> 0:57:19.080 it is right, We're starting out with you saying, we 0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:21.880 posted a thing on tomb care and so we're so 0:57:22.360 --> 0:57:26.240 so much skipping. Yeah, the grind with so much skipping. 0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:28.400 And I don't want these artists to think that that's 0:57:28.520 --> 0:57:32.840 just it. They you know, pay the to upload the record. Yeah, 0:57:33.280 --> 0:57:37.520 and then and then they're gonna be in everyone. Especially 0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:41.240 in today's day and age. Everything is instant gratification. You 0:57:41.360 --> 0:57:45.320 post a picture, I instantly get a DM know what 0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:48.680 I'm saying, Like, it's instant, Like you post something, I 0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:52.640 instantly get a response. I do this. Everything's freshing. Everything 0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:55.120 in life is so instant. You can order something instantly, 0:57:55.240 --> 0:57:57.360 you can get it juice instantly, you can fucking bit 0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:07.320 just like everything is instant. Okay, dude, back, but we're 0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:10.640 not that bad. We haven't made that much point. You 0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:15.480 gotta fish in the right time. How do you continue? Okay, 0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:22.240 so not at all? Awkways out of my vocabulary. So 0:58:22.480 --> 0:58:25.880 you get everything is instant. So artists, we dealt with them. 0:58:26.240 --> 0:58:28.000 I was cool with them and I'm still cool with them. 0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:31.480 But you put out one project, it doesn't do what 0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:33.440 you what you think it's supposed to do, and you 0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:36.400 give up the problem once again. I am about solution 0:58:36.480 --> 0:58:39.320 and the root. The root of that is attachment to results, 0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:42.920 detachment results, and that's a that's a chapter in Deepox 0:58:42.960 --> 0:58:46.480 Show for seven Spiritual Law of Success. But detached from results. No, 0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:48.600 because too many people put out a song and say, 0:58:49.320 --> 0:58:52.360 without them realizing it, they say to themselves the energy. 0:58:52.840 --> 0:58:56.720 If this doesn't do a million views, I'm off this ship, okay, 0:58:56.760 --> 0:59:00.280 But let's speak to the people that that maybe has 0:59:00.520 --> 0:59:04.920 kid children or something like that has children, like and 0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:07.960 you know, you know, because because a lot of a 0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:10.040 lot of it is your baby moms saying give it up. 0:59:10.960 --> 0:59:16.600 Usually it's your family closest they're telling you. Man, Ronald 0:59:16.680 --> 0:59:19.960 McDonald and them niggas is hiring, like yeah, but like 0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:23.000 honestly and they honestly. I agree to say that artist 0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:26.240 that throw those three couple of I think you need 0:59:26.280 --> 0:59:30.400 to where you are in life. But I also agree, 0:59:30.520 --> 0:59:35.680 I don't agree with the fact that people uh absolutely 0:59:35.840 --> 0:59:40.000 dismissed and because some of these artists ain't good. No, 0:59:40.360 --> 0:59:42.280 I'm gonna go back to work. But that's what I'm 0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:46.920 saying like no, like, but I don't have money, But 0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:50.240 I don't agree that people dismiss the reality of yeah, 0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:53.960 go get the job in McDonald's like, don't like. But 0:59:54.360 --> 0:59:57.120 society and everyone is saying that that's whack. Now you 0:59:57.160 --> 1:00:00.200 know what's whack being broke. You know it's wack being 1:00:00.240 --> 1:00:01.680 locked up for some ship you didn't have to do. 1:00:01.800 --> 1:00:06.840 You feel me, like, my fuck's just like put McDonald's 1:00:06.880 --> 1:00:09.080 as anything. That motherfucker like it is trying to make 1:00:09.120 --> 1:00:12.000 it happen in a in a legal way so that 1:00:12.080 --> 1:00:14.200 he can still fund his legal movement of music. So 1:00:14.560 --> 1:00:17.360 I was saying about the buying McDonalds buy, I'm hiring 1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:19.360 all paroles. I don't care if y'all still for me. 1:00:19.680 --> 1:00:24.360 It's all right now McDonald work. But yeah, we're gonna 1:00:24.400 --> 1:00:27.120 make it work now. But people, but people need to 1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:31.840 stop the meaning that uh that avenue having a job, 1:00:32.080 --> 1:00:35.080 having a job, having a job is don't we everybody 1:00:35.160 --> 1:00:37.800 could be getting hard No, no, I know, but some 1:00:37.880 --> 1:00:41.040 of these niggas got to stop. Yeah, but that's that's 1:00:42.920 --> 1:00:45.400 that's even more of my point. Since everyone can't be 1:00:45.480 --> 1:00:48.200 an artist, you are the last person the same McDonald's 1:00:48.240 --> 1:00:52.760 is beneaty exactly, so like stop stop shipping on that 1:00:52.880 --> 1:00:59.200 because sucks with me. Yeah, you know, but but let 1:00:59.280 --> 1:01:00.880 me say something to move on to the next ship. 1:01:01.080 --> 1:01:04.080 Let me say something. You know, it's crazy. I always 1:01:04.080 --> 1:01:06.880 say if the fourteen year old me came up to 1:01:07.040 --> 1:01:09.480 the met now, maybe not me right now because I'm 1:01:09.480 --> 1:01:10.960 a little bit more of a minded but to me 1:01:11.040 --> 1:01:15.400 a year ago, two years ago with each other and said, yo, ago, 1:01:15.480 --> 1:01:28.560 you're time a year ago, three weeks ago, you're talking No. 1:01:28.800 --> 1:01:30.800 But so if the fourteen year old came up to 1:01:30.880 --> 1:01:32.880 me and was like, Yo, this is my beat, fourteen 1:01:32.920 --> 1:01:36.440 would trash like that's not that's not like a Kanye 1:01:36.600 --> 1:01:38.920 saying he's beats on Twitter. Fantasy would try no, like 1:01:39.480 --> 1:01:41.680 my first beat even on garage man with three instruments 1:01:41.760 --> 1:01:44.080 and like a sin thing playing with one finger trash. 1:01:44.480 --> 1:01:47.520 So they probably will pop right now, Loki, it's it 1:01:52.800 --> 1:01:57.800 after this, I'm playing the now. But like, if that 1:01:57.920 --> 1:02:00.520 kid came up to me, I checked myself, like over 1:02:00.520 --> 1:02:02.720 a year ago, I was like, man, to be honest, 1:02:03.480 --> 1:02:05.600 I would be like, I don't see how it could 1:02:05.600 --> 1:02:08.080 ever work with you. You are showing no signs of 1:02:08.680 --> 1:02:11.920 any sort of potential like this just is trash. That's 1:02:11.960 --> 1:02:15.479 what I was thinking my head. My younger self taught 1:02:15.560 --> 1:02:18.560 my older self to never count anyone out, Like if 1:02:18.600 --> 1:02:22.200 you're trash right now, I believe in you because I 1:02:22.440 --> 1:02:25.320 know that trash can turn into but it's not that. 1:02:26.000 --> 1:02:28.200 But it never is. But it's always on your head. 1:02:28.240 --> 1:02:31.240 But you can't say your trash I believe, Yes you can, 1:02:31.480 --> 1:02:34.120 Yes you can't. Fun man, you believe in a lot 1:02:34.160 --> 1:02:36.520 of people. Yes you do. You know why? You know why? 1:02:36.720 --> 1:02:39.080 Yes you do? Yes you do because if that makes 1:02:39.120 --> 1:02:43.240 me the ship person from believing in you the light 1:02:43.360 --> 1:02:45.840 to everybody, no matter being politics, a matter of not 1:02:46.120 --> 1:02:50.120 ruling out the potential fear. What doesn't mean investing in everybody, 1:02:50.200 --> 1:02:52.520 say investing money, But I will invest believe in energy 1:02:52.600 --> 1:02:57.720 into but you know what I will, because who's to 1:02:57.920 --> 1:03:01.200 say no, I agree that my energy and my belief 1:03:01.280 --> 1:03:03.280 and your energy and your belief. Who's to say that 1:03:03.360 --> 1:03:06.360 that might not trickle and come down? Is some ship 1:03:06.480 --> 1:03:08.800 I don't want to be. I'll never be in. Nay 1:03:08.840 --> 1:03:12.480 said no, I respect that. Sometimes you gotta say I 1:03:12.600 --> 1:03:17.360 respect You're not good though, right? No, No, you say 1:03:18.280 --> 1:03:20.920 that much to give away as I'm saying everyone, everyone 1:03:20.960 --> 1:03:23.120 that records me, all my homies. I wasn't letting anyone 1:03:23.200 --> 1:03:24.720 on the mic over my beaks because I said, you're 1:03:24.720 --> 1:03:30.040 not fired, so real friends right there. But so when 1:03:30.080 --> 1:03:32.440 you said sometimes you gotta say you're not good though. Yes, 1:03:32.560 --> 1:03:35.280 but that's my cousin. I got to tell him my thing, don't. Yeah, 1:03:35.480 --> 1:03:38.320 I'm saying, because I keep telling my phone not working, 1:03:38.400 --> 1:03:43.320 I got to like talk about Let me tell you though. 1:03:43.640 --> 1:03:45.680 If you tell one of your homies, yeah, but you're 1:03:45.720 --> 1:03:48.000 not good though, that's fine. Just make sure that that 1:03:48.160 --> 1:03:49.960 sentence doesn't have a period on the end of it. 1:03:50.800 --> 1:03:55.120 I'll say you're not ended. You're not good though. No, no, 1:03:56.200 --> 1:03:59.480 not that you're not good right now. Keep working on it. 1:04:00.200 --> 1:04:05.320 You might be because I always trash you feel me. 1:04:05.680 --> 1:04:07.320 So I can never look at someone and be like, 1:04:07.600 --> 1:04:10.080 you're not good right now, and you won't be good 1:04:10.160 --> 1:04:12.840 in ten years, Like what happened to good? That's not 1:04:13.040 --> 1:04:20.560 good in ten years. Get a job in McDonald's. That's 1:04:20.600 --> 1:04:25.680 a period on that. Honestly, Jen soaking up, write it down, 1:04:25.760 --> 1:04:28.240 hanging on in there now it's true because um, the 1:04:28.320 --> 1:04:31.880 thing about it is, I always want people to know 1:04:32.080 --> 1:04:34.120 that you know, being an artist is not to end 1:04:34.200 --> 1:04:36.640 all be all. People see that there's so many people 1:04:36.680 --> 1:04:39.680 that make so much money behind the scenes. And I 1:04:39.880 --> 1:04:42.800 had the same exact passion as the music, same as that, 1:04:43.320 --> 1:04:45.240 and it's so much other things that people could do 1:04:45.320 --> 1:04:47.360 besides being in front of the Canada. I think you 1:04:47.480 --> 1:04:50.200 said that on an interview. You said you admired the 1:04:50.240 --> 1:04:52.960 booking agents. Oh yeah, okay, I liked it that. I 1:04:54.400 --> 1:04:57.320 was so confused when there was people in the media 1:04:57.320 --> 1:05:01.040 and in the industry like why are you trying to 1:05:01.120 --> 1:05:04.880 make those are the people like for people? And I'm like, 1:05:05.120 --> 1:05:09.400 because you're trying to wrap up. No one's wrapping up. 1:05:09.680 --> 1:05:13.080 What was we got two hours? Like this is it? Chris, 1:05:13.280 --> 1:05:15.880 don't give me the the fucking guy like we had 1:05:15.920 --> 1:05:21.640 the Grammys and ship, like we had that little yourself 1:05:22.040 --> 1:05:24.440 you continue to talk, so what it is like when 1:05:25.320 --> 1:05:26.920 if you're trying to get into any field, I just 1:05:26.960 --> 1:05:28.720 feel like you got to educate yourself. And that guy 1:05:28.880 --> 1:05:31.040 was saying, especially twenty nineteen where it's all out there 1:05:32.000 --> 1:05:34.680 but a book and agent. Yeah, Like I did the research, 1:05:34.840 --> 1:05:37.080 like I watched the interviews, I did this ship, so 1:05:37.880 --> 1:05:40.560 I knew, like you see the artists, and you see 1:05:40.640 --> 1:05:42.360 the change and you see the money and the ship, 1:05:42.600 --> 1:05:45.120 but no one ever asked how did you get that? People? 1:05:45.440 --> 1:05:47.160 Was it was it by touring? Well, how did you 1:05:47.240 --> 1:05:55.440 get touring? That's the age? Yeah, Steve Strange, so you 1:05:55.640 --> 1:06:01.160 your freestyle, which was fucking that's phenomenal. Same. I was like, 1:06:01.480 --> 1:06:03.520 I thought I was gonna be way more nervous than 1:06:03.600 --> 1:06:06.040 I was, but he was so cool that it made 1:06:06.080 --> 1:06:08.520 me just be like, man, So you were nervous to 1:06:08.600 --> 1:06:13.480 meet the booking agent eminem the first time? It was 1:06:13.640 --> 1:06:17.840 it was boxing him in verse the five wasn't it 1:06:17.960 --> 1:06:21.960 might have been, wasn't. Roy was just faring with It's 1:06:21.960 --> 1:06:23.640 what I say, we're fighting each other. Someone got there 1:06:24.040 --> 1:06:30.560 that should not. It's like I looked up to the 1:06:30.600 --> 1:06:33.360 booking agents because I wanted to understand the mechanics of 1:06:33.400 --> 1:06:36.520 how everything was moving. I didn't I didn't buy into oh, 1:06:36.640 --> 1:06:39.000 you're just just rich because you tell me you're rich. 1:06:39.120 --> 1:06:41.840 I wanted to know how and why, and so I 1:06:41.920 --> 1:06:43.960 figured out how. And there was a lot of components 1:06:44.000 --> 1:06:47.320 and it was like at the time two thousand nine, 1:06:47.360 --> 1:06:49.640 it was really Peter Schwartz and Carroll Lewis as far 1:06:49.720 --> 1:06:53.200 as in my head. Um, and that's just I just 1:06:53.760 --> 1:06:56.200 at that's who I wanted. So when my manager was 1:06:56.240 --> 1:06:59.360 first reaching out, found me on SoundCloud, give me up 1:06:59.440 --> 1:07:02.320 via email. Know he's right there. You can tell you 1:07:02.400 --> 1:07:06.919 guys right now, I said, Miles Milan right there. Maybe 1:07:06.960 --> 1:07:11.840 it's Miles. I remember telling Milan over and over again. 1:07:12.800 --> 1:07:15.880 I don't give a funk about anything else you're doing. 1:07:16.440 --> 1:07:18.560 Get me a meeting with Carol Louis and then then 1:07:19.360 --> 1:07:23.720 all like, I'll take it serious because I'm never down 1:07:23.800 --> 1:07:27.040 and people need to understand you can't work with people 1:07:27.200 --> 1:07:31.040 who who can't contribute something you can contribute to yourself. 1:07:31.760 --> 1:07:33.840 So I was like, look, unless you can get because 1:07:33.840 --> 1:07:35.360 I don't need to produce what I'm doing. I don't 1:07:35.360 --> 1:07:37.360 need a lot of managers are like they're putting the 1:07:37.440 --> 1:07:40.800 collapse together in this or I'm doing all that, so 1:07:40.960 --> 1:07:43.960 I don't need that. I got a different prerequisite to 1:07:44.000 --> 1:07:45.600 fuck with me, like, I need this. So if you 1:07:45.640 --> 1:07:47.560 can provide me this and then I'll take it serious. 1:07:47.640 --> 1:07:50.160 So but yeah, it's the mindset of being like, you 1:07:50.240 --> 1:07:53.120 know what, it's the booking agent. Why the booking agent 1:07:53.200 --> 1:07:54.600 is the one who put you on tours and the 1:07:54.640 --> 1:07:56.440 one who at the time is very smart for you 1:07:56.520 --> 1:07:58.760 to know that because a lot of people from my 1:07:58.880 --> 1:08:02.560 era never made one royalties. You only made advance money, 1:08:02.600 --> 1:08:05.560 and everything else was always on the road. Tom So 1:08:05.760 --> 1:08:09.560 just when you you knowing that with some great advance. 1:08:09.840 --> 1:08:12.040 So now you gotta switch the interview a little bit, 1:08:12.560 --> 1:08:14.400 get some one of the more shot. Let's go, baby, 1:08:15.560 --> 1:08:18.400 make it make it decent. Yes you do, Yes, you do, 1:08:19.120 --> 1:08:26.920 because motherfucker, because there's much you have to Absolutely, it's 1:08:26.960 --> 1:08:31.080 been married. It's just like Turkey did it on Thanksgiving, 1:08:31.520 --> 1:08:37.639 Turkey dinner in here. That one, that one was rough. 1:08:37.960 --> 1:08:41.639 I need some cheeseburger babies. Yeah, you know that smells 1:08:41.720 --> 1:08:48.519 like the fourth seasons in Tokyo. Jes season. It does, 1:08:48.640 --> 1:08:52.920 no loki, it's whatever, all whatever, y'all use the set, 1:08:53.040 --> 1:08:55.960 y'all using the fourth season in Tokyo smells like the 1:08:56.000 --> 1:09:00.599 way this is change has that sit in his house, 1:09:00.640 --> 1:09:02.639 like when you can walk into pubs. It's a slight, 1:09:03.600 --> 1:09:11.679 I'm telling you, but it doesn't smell. It's not saying 1:09:12.760 --> 1:09:15.479 I know what he's saying. It's like, this feels smells 1:09:15.600 --> 1:09:20.400 like four seasons Tokyo the day seasons. Right, I'm gonna 1:09:20.400 --> 1:09:22.880 be honest, honestly know, every time I've been in Tokyo, 1:09:22.960 --> 1:09:25.120 I've never been righted to the four seasons to make 1:09:25.200 --> 1:09:30.479 some noise of influence, and you know what I want 1:09:30.479 --> 1:09:33.600 to really also just like sidebar random ship luke this 1:09:33.840 --> 1:09:37.519 make it go viral um. The reality is that I 1:09:37.800 --> 1:09:40.439 absolutely have the most love for all these upcoming artists 1:09:40.439 --> 1:09:42.719 in twenty years and one year olds, and I wish 1:09:43.160 --> 1:09:44.960 that I can sit in room with all of them 1:09:45.080 --> 1:09:47.720 and just give them genuine advice unsolicited. You don't have 1:09:47.800 --> 1:09:50.640 to like it, take it whatever, But I think that 1:09:51.120 --> 1:09:54.840 there's so much potential and so much ownership potential, and 1:09:54.920 --> 1:09:57.080 it's just like y'all don't understand that you can make 1:09:57.680 --> 1:10:01.000 ten million dollars in a year. Look a little NASA 1:10:01.520 --> 1:10:05.880 still own your stuff with Columbia, Oh yeah, masters, oh yeah, 1:10:05.920 --> 1:10:10.680 we just now we split the profits on it, so 1:10:10.720 --> 1:10:13.479 it's a proper split. Yeah. So it's like, that's fine, 1:10:13.640 --> 1:10:19.240 that's that's fair. That's that's fair. That's all my publishing, 1:10:19.400 --> 1:10:21.679 so that's that's fair. And I sell my independent catalog, 1:10:22.120 --> 1:10:24.520 so that's fair. But you look like a little nasax, 1:10:24.720 --> 1:10:29.120 right song going crazy as well it should and the doors, 1:10:29.200 --> 1:10:31.760 he's breaking down like it's amazing. I think I hate 1:10:31.840 --> 1:10:34.639 his name, but I do, like you know, but like, yeah, 1:10:34.760 --> 1:10:36.360 that's what I'm saying, like a lot of like, I 1:10:36.680 --> 1:10:40.040 try my hardest to operate beneath the surface. I don't 1:10:40.040 --> 1:10:43.879 want to get caught up a like so little Nasax, 1:10:44.040 --> 1:10:46.400 you're like your name. I was almost the same way 1:10:46.800 --> 1:10:52.240 that name. But that doesn't matter. It's like what he 1:10:52.560 --> 1:10:55.200 what It's about the energy in the substance that it's 1:10:55.240 --> 1:10:58.120 moving with his dad. Oh yeah, look how we shook 1:10:58.200 --> 1:11:01.519 up country like funk with that. I felt with the 1:11:01.600 --> 1:11:03.720 beneath the service it. But I look at a kid 1:11:03.800 --> 1:11:05.320 like that and I'm like, yo, do you understand that? 1:11:05.760 --> 1:11:08.479 Now he's with Columbia. So Columbia might have given him 1:11:08.640 --> 1:11:11.720 I don't know, definitely millions for sure? Is it four? 1:11:11.800 --> 1:11:15.160 Is the two? Is the three? I don't I don't 1:11:15.200 --> 1:11:19.000 know the terms. But regardless, like you could have made 1:11:19.040 --> 1:11:20.519 on too and cold with that same song, And this 1:11:20.640 --> 1:11:23.000 is not one of those situations where I needed them 1:11:23.080 --> 1:11:25.360 to to milk it and to make it go big. 1:11:26.120 --> 1:11:28.519 He was milking it on Twitter and made it become 1:11:28.680 --> 1:11:34.519 viral without Columbia, So oh yeah, he was oh yeah, 1:11:34.600 --> 1:11:39.840 no he even he even he even no, no, no. 1:11:40.760 --> 1:11:44.320 That was little nos EX utilizing social media and understanding 1:11:44.360 --> 1:11:47.120 how social media works Twitter, Instagram, being a twenty year 1:11:47.120 --> 1:11:51.920 old kid and manipulating that he lose Soldier Boy. Soldier 1:11:51.960 --> 1:11:54.000 Boy was like that, that's what I'm saying exactly. That's 1:11:54.000 --> 1:11:55.640 what you need to put respect on soldier boy. But 1:11:55.800 --> 1:12:00.640 that's that's but so Little nos X It's like, bro, like, 1:12:00.800 --> 1:12:04.040 you should have kept that one for yourself at least 1:12:04.120 --> 1:12:07.280 for eight months. So that guess what, Because the way 1:12:07.320 --> 1:12:09.960 tune core and everything works, it's a two month delay. Right. 1:12:10.320 --> 1:12:13.840 So let's say Little NASA blows a song in January, right, 1:12:13.920 --> 1:12:16.960 and it goes nuts, and now we'reing, what what what 1:12:17.680 --> 1:12:23.680 month is? Maybe April whatever, so May, let's say by May, 1:12:23.880 --> 1:12:28.360 labels are like, yo, we we gotta sign you. Little 1:12:28.400 --> 1:12:31.040 ns as could then say he has some leverage because 1:12:31.080 --> 1:12:32.720 he's like, listen, I know what I'm doing on my own, 1:12:33.479 --> 1:12:36.040 so you have to put up X amount. Right, That's 1:12:36.080 --> 1:12:37.759 how I did my deal. Like I had a tune 1:12:37.800 --> 1:12:41.680 Core so and I was making hundreds of times. I 1:12:41.760 --> 1:12:43.760 was making a hundred k right a month. Let's call 1:12:43.760 --> 1:12:47.600 it roughly a month, So I'm not taking this is 1:12:48.040 --> 1:12:50.759 this is like no Label, no like me my basement, 1:12:50.880 --> 1:12:55.800 right and it pays out every Friday. So when Label 1:12:55.840 --> 1:12:58.320 started talking to me like, I'm not taking your usual 1:12:58.439 --> 1:13:01.680 six hundred k advance with some royalty rate deal, like 1:13:01.800 --> 1:13:03.920 because I have belief in this and I know that 1:13:03.960 --> 1:13:08.640 if I'm making a hundred camees July, by december's one 1:13:08.760 --> 1:13:13.479 seventy and by December seventeen is to seventy and so 1:13:13.720 --> 1:13:16.960 on and so forth. Right, So I look at these 1:13:17.000 --> 1:13:20.040 people like little Nazacs and it's like, man, it's dope. 1:13:20.120 --> 1:13:23.960 I'm so glad you're winning, but I'm very sad that 1:13:25.320 --> 1:13:31.080 you're not winning. They're winning. Columbia too earlier because because 1:13:31.120 --> 1:13:34.920 because the war, do you understand that he could have 1:13:35.040 --> 1:13:40.160 signed as much, and also had you could, you know 1:13:40.240 --> 1:13:41.840 what I would have done if I was in I 1:13:41.880 --> 1:13:44.160 would have dropped the old town roll ship. It would 1:13:44.160 --> 1:13:47.519 have gone nuts, which it did without Columbia. And I'm 1:13:47.560 --> 1:13:49.560 with Columbia, but they know what's up. We all know 1:13:49.600 --> 1:13:52.040 what's something. Let's just talk freely. It would have gone 1:13:52.120 --> 1:13:55.360 nuts regardless, so it's going nuts. Then I would have dropped. 1:13:55.400 --> 1:13:56.600 I would have been on my two core. Then I 1:13:56.640 --> 1:13:59.320 would have droped more songs and because of the hype 1:13:59.320 --> 1:14:02.280 of old Time, those songs are just gonna go regardless 1:14:02.360 --> 1:14:05.560 because you're dropping within the moment, so they're gonna go. 1:14:05.840 --> 1:14:10.240 And he's actually like he's melodically uh you know skill, 1:14:10.400 --> 1:14:14.000 So then you do. I want to talk about that 1:14:14.240 --> 1:14:17.760 because that's that's insane and hilarious. But so I would 1:14:17.800 --> 1:14:20.519 have done that and then built up this leverage where 1:14:20.560 --> 1:14:23.600 it was like, yeah, I got Old Town Road, but 1:14:23.640 --> 1:14:25.559 I got these other songs, and I would have got 1:14:25.600 --> 1:14:28.040 with Kara, right, I would have got with Carrol Louise, 1:14:28.240 --> 1:14:31.280 and I would have put together a six city because 1:14:31.720 --> 1:14:33.719 my first tour in America was a six city towards 1:14:33.720 --> 1:14:36.479 type of ship, five dat venues, and it's like it 1:14:36.640 --> 1:14:38.760 just sells the whole ship more. Do you know how 1:14:38.920 --> 1:14:42.479 much more money? I don't know what he I really don't. 1:14:42.560 --> 1:14:44.120 I don't know what he got from Colombia, But do 1:14:44.120 --> 1:14:46.280 you know how much more he would have gotten if 1:14:46.400 --> 1:14:49.400 not only did Old Town Road break these streaming records, 1:14:49.479 --> 1:14:53.639 but then on top of that, you see sold out 1:14:53.760 --> 1:14:57.400 footage from l a New York tech like you're gonna 1:14:57.479 --> 1:15:01.920 you're gonna management. Let no, no, but the guy but 1:15:02.360 --> 1:15:04.639 he didn't do that, let me and let me stop. 1:15:04.640 --> 1:15:09.840 You're an ultimate artist manager. But okay, but I don't 1:15:09.880 --> 1:15:12.960 want to ask sometimes I'm gonna say something that we 1:15:13.120 --> 1:15:18.080 had in our era because I'm a kid that came 1:15:18.120 --> 1:15:20.840 from Miami, from a from a suburb in Miami, had 1:15:20.880 --> 1:15:23.920 no connection the industry. So the way that I got 1:15:24.040 --> 1:15:28.160 connected to the industry was through conventions. Okay. One of 1:15:28.200 --> 1:15:30.880 the conventions that came to Miami made it affordable to 1:15:30.960 --> 1:15:40.720 me was how can I be down? Immediately? Well, I'm 1:15:40.800 --> 1:15:44.160 listening to you right now. Yeah, you're preaching the truth 1:15:44.240 --> 1:15:48.320 and everything. Actually, no, he doesn't actually know our error. 1:15:48.360 --> 1:15:49.960 That's what That's why I saw. So what I'm what 1:15:50.080 --> 1:15:53.240 I'm what I'm thinking to myself is like, because you're saying, 1:15:53.520 --> 1:15:55.120 these people need to know this, and they need to 1:15:55.200 --> 1:15:59.559 know this and know that you to creative for him. Yeah, 1:16:00.160 --> 1:16:03.559 for younger cats to learn this and that. Because let 1:16:03.600 --> 1:16:05.800 me tell you something. So I went to how can 1:16:05.880 --> 1:16:08.240 I be down? As it's just hip hop fan a 1:16:08.760 --> 1:16:14.400 kid that just got turntables. Yetive I'm going and luckily 1:16:14.439 --> 1:16:17.360 it's in my city. Now, I will never go there. Right, 1:16:17.800 --> 1:16:20.439 what I'm saying. So I go there and I go 1:16:20.560 --> 1:16:23.960 to the first panel that I could be a part of, 1:16:24.640 --> 1:16:27.720 and I'm ready tie me up. Yeah, and let me 1:16:27.760 --> 1:16:29.920 tell you how. One of the illest things that happened 1:16:29.920 --> 1:16:34.120 to be his panel behind me when the panelists said 1:16:34.120 --> 1:16:37.519 anybody got questions, someone behind me raises their hand and 1:16:37.560 --> 1:16:42.160 ask a question. And it was someone that I was 1:16:42.680 --> 1:16:47.320 the biggest admirer of as a fan, Chuck D of 1:16:47.479 --> 1:16:52.400 Public Enemy raise his hand, ask question? Is going on 1:16:53.080 --> 1:16:59.840 the story what I said, I just say, if he 1:17:00.080 --> 1:17:04.400 is asking a question and I'm fucked, Oh how I'm 1:17:04.439 --> 1:17:08.080 following up that I'm not following. I'm just saying, if 1:17:08.200 --> 1:17:12.479 he has questions still in the game. Oh yeah, yeah. 1:17:12.760 --> 1:17:15.120 But see, you know why that's beautiful because at least 1:17:15.160 --> 1:17:19.560 you recognize that that like that self awareness is what 1:17:19.720 --> 1:17:22.080 makes people last to this level. But what I'm saying 1:17:22.200 --> 1:17:25.200 is everything you're saying right now, You guys need to 1:17:25.280 --> 1:17:28.200 do your own hop to night be down for generational purpose. 1:17:28.840 --> 1:17:30.200 You know what you know? You know what I'm doing, 1:17:32.360 --> 1:17:35.160 dumb har love it. You know what I'm doing. Though 1:17:36.320 --> 1:17:39.640 I wrote a book. I heard about the book. I 1:17:39.680 --> 1:17:42.160 got cat at looking at them because this is so 1:17:42.280 --> 1:17:45.000 interesting without it, I wrote a book and you know, 1:17:45.840 --> 1:17:50.040 the Alchemist and everything. So in deepok showber So HarperCollins 1:17:50.520 --> 1:17:53.479 published the book. So how's it calling myself at one 1:17:53.520 --> 1:17:57.840 point Doug Popper, right, I forgot am gonna find yourself 1:17:57.880 --> 1:18:05.639 smoke Chop smoke popo. But the name of the book, 1:18:05.720 --> 1:18:10.120 the name of the book of the book, not now. 1:18:11.040 --> 1:18:17.160 But I've been alive very so the name of the book. 1:18:17.200 --> 1:18:22.599 It's on your head. And that's and and I'm trying 1:18:22.600 --> 1:18:25.680 to give. I'm telling you that, like some it was 1:18:25.720 --> 1:18:27.960 always in me. It was definitely always in me. And 1:18:28.040 --> 1:18:32.360 then when Nipsey passed, it just kind of like reminded 1:18:32.400 --> 1:18:35.920 me of me almost. And it's about what you leave 1:18:35.960 --> 1:18:39.519 behind and what you're just giving. And it's on your head. 1:18:39.640 --> 1:18:42.160 It's just it's a two book. Like I don't want 1:18:42.240 --> 1:18:45.920 it to be an autobiography. High wrote this melody. It's 1:18:45.960 --> 1:18:51.320 not that it's yeah, it's in your head. It's what 1:18:51.439 --> 1:18:53.720 we've been talking about. It's about it's the game, not 1:18:53.880 --> 1:18:56.599 the point. It's about it self belief, and it's about 1:18:56.680 --> 1:18:59.880 these things that anyone can apply to the life and succeed. 1:19:00.080 --> 1:19:02.000 I'm not trying to give you a how to succeed 1:19:02.080 --> 1:19:05.600 in music one oh one. That's like, it's just not 1:19:05.720 --> 1:19:08.400 applicable to anyone Else's not try to do music, you 1:19:08.439 --> 1:19:11.000 feel me? So I'm trying to. I'm just trying to 1:19:11.160 --> 1:19:13.000 get as much as i can at this point, bro, 1:19:13.160 --> 1:19:16.439 because I know that that's what it's about, and so whatever. 1:19:16.560 --> 1:19:20.800 Like now, granted it is my how abrasive and is 1:19:20.840 --> 1:19:23.560 the how he's polishing, for sure, but you know what 1:19:24.920 --> 1:19:27.880 that listen, please do let me tell you, I'm not 1:19:27.880 --> 1:19:30.320 gonna give you something. Think about it in the hip 1:19:30.360 --> 1:19:32.400 hop but we were saying earlier, I'm saying listen in 1:19:32.479 --> 1:19:35.320 a different way. Yeah, taught to me cocky. We are 1:19:35.400 --> 1:19:40.280 taught to say that's no. That's why you know what's 1:19:40.320 --> 1:19:43.200 funked up to me? Right? Is that that's how you 1:19:43.360 --> 1:19:47.839 know the consumer has changed drastically. Hip hop is still cocky. 1:19:48.680 --> 1:19:50.479 But the fact that there's now a problem with it, 1:19:51.120 --> 1:19:53.960 let you know that hip hop didn't change the consumer change. 1:19:54.520 --> 1:19:59.920 The consumer became more bitch made because why is me period? 1:20:00.240 --> 1:20:05.559 Well by the NFL would let the Pistons in nineties six, 1:20:06.120 --> 1:20:09.120 come on to bet the consumer is not hip hop? Right? 1:20:09.520 --> 1:20:12.080 This is the real ship. Now this is the no. 1:20:12.280 --> 1:20:17.640 You're getting Matthew from fucking uh he like Nebraska and 1:20:17.720 --> 1:20:21.439 he's twelve years old, Thomas, and why do you all 1:20:21.479 --> 1:20:23.320 have to say the end where we can't say it? 1:20:23.720 --> 1:20:27.760 It's like, yeah, Rings and y'all are in academics comment 1:20:27.840 --> 1:20:31.639 section and like and so what ends up happening though, 1:20:31.640 --> 1:20:35.360 is that those types, that type of demographic runs the 1:20:35.560 --> 1:20:41.800 Internet sensation, which then the grown ass people move off 1:20:41.880 --> 1:20:44.400 of the Internet sensation, which is moved off of twelve 1:20:44.479 --> 1:20:46.680 year old name Matthew Nebraska who say the end whre 1:20:46.680 --> 1:20:49.240 when they get drunk, and it's like, so you got 1:20:49.439 --> 1:20:53.280 forty year olds. Actually, when you trickle it down far 1:20:53.439 --> 1:20:58.480 enough listening to Matthew Nebraska, it's reverse trickle down economics, 1:20:58.560 --> 1:21:01.960 which sucks balls. So so because one of my favorite 1:21:02.520 --> 1:21:07.840 Instagram posts is when you say it's still money in 1:21:08.000 --> 1:21:12.360 music was one of my favorite, right, But then I 1:21:12.439 --> 1:21:14.160 want you to break down that. I want you to 1:21:14.280 --> 1:21:18.120 also say because then you're saying that there's still money 1:21:18.160 --> 1:21:22.400 in music. If you yeah, then you saw the Staples Center, right, 1:21:22.560 --> 1:21:25.760 So if you can both of those down. If you can't, 1:21:26.160 --> 1:21:29.479 I want to be quiet. Absolutely so still owning. It 1:21:29.640 --> 1:21:32.200 comes down to the tomb. Course it right, And it's 1:21:32.240 --> 1:21:36.200 funny like my first rendition, in my first introduction that 1:21:36.320 --> 1:21:39.200 like hate was every time I would drop a song, 1:21:39.240 --> 1:21:42.280 I would say produced makes master Engineer, written by me, 1:21:42.640 --> 1:21:47.040 because that's what it was. No, they believed it. They 1:21:47.080 --> 1:21:52.320 got annoyed because they took it as bragging. Right, all 1:21:52.400 --> 1:21:57.360 those those right, So I'm really I'm giving credit to 1:21:57.439 --> 1:22:00.680 the roles right of what it takes to make us home. 1:22:00.840 --> 1:22:03.640 So that's where the first hate started coming from. But 1:22:04.200 --> 1:22:09.200 you know, then, was it immediate though? Hate? No, nothing 1:22:09.320 --> 1:22:12.600 is immediate until you're in front of the massages, you 1:22:12.640 --> 1:22:15.719 know what I'm saying, Like when when the only fans 1:22:15.960 --> 1:22:18.880 like I would say like you're so popping, you don't 1:22:18.960 --> 1:22:22.519 have hands, you don't have haters, Like, you're not popping 1:22:22.640 --> 1:22:25.799 yet until you have hater And it's like I always 1:22:25.840 --> 1:22:27.400 heard that. Ship. I was like that sounds like some 1:22:27.479 --> 1:22:30.439 cliche is like nah, oh yeah, you're popping. You're so popping, 1:22:30.479 --> 1:22:32.000 you don't even have hats What are you talking about? 1:22:32.120 --> 1:22:37.240 Every comments be too positive, just like if all off, 1:22:39.760 --> 1:22:42.479 if all of your d M s are positive. Ship 1:22:42.800 --> 1:22:45.000 I was there too. I was like, man, I literally 1:22:45.000 --> 1:22:47.120 have tweets and ship like, I don't think haters exists. 1:22:47.160 --> 1:22:50.320 I think it's all bullshit because I wasn't popping enough yet. 1:22:50.360 --> 1:22:52.680 Like if all of your comments on any need of 1:22:52.720 --> 1:22:55.840 you dropped, it's just all positive. You're just literally not 1:22:56.000 --> 1:22:59.040 popping yet. Is that simple? Because the only people who 1:22:59.160 --> 1:23:01.479 know you are die hard fans. Because if you know 1:23:01.520 --> 1:23:04.560 about any artists when they have ten thousand followers, you 1:23:04.640 --> 1:23:06.560 are just simply a die hard fan. You don't have 1:23:07.120 --> 1:23:09.840 They don't have enough energy that they've exuded themselves for 1:23:09.880 --> 1:23:12.519 you to commit your negative energy to it. You feel 1:23:12.600 --> 1:23:15.880 me so with um without was like, you know what, 1:23:16.920 --> 1:23:19.640 fuck it it is? What it is? What were you 1:23:19.640 --> 1:23:24.040 talking about? No? No, because I want let's go no please, 1:23:24.160 --> 1:23:25.600 I want to touch on it. What was that? No? 1:23:25.800 --> 1:23:31.920 What was the question? THO is a tune caution owning 1:23:31.960 --> 1:23:38.320 this ship, owning see this movie, what we do won't 1:23:38.360 --> 1:23:42.160 be blood again? We drink more? Talking about hold on? 1:23:42.720 --> 1:23:47.360 So now the fans, So you're normal because you don't 1:23:47.400 --> 1:23:49.640 why think you hold it down and think you're to 1:23:49.720 --> 1:23:52.200 preacher And you gotta know that you have fun too, 1:23:52.479 --> 1:23:54.840 and guess guess what? Having fun on the Saturday doesn't 1:23:54.840 --> 1:23:57.400 mean you don't work on Monday through motherfucker's Sunday. That 1:23:57.520 --> 1:23:59.200 doesn't even mean you don't work on Saturday when you 1:23:59.320 --> 1:24:04.200 leave exactly. So now had the tune care ship. It 1:24:04.280 --> 1:24:09.559 was such an amazing thing. I wanted to say, sell stables. 1:24:09.600 --> 1:24:11.919 What was the other caveat of the It was stables 1:24:11.960 --> 1:24:17.360 and then oh, yeah, that doesn't give me enough. But okay, no, no, 1:24:17.520 --> 1:24:19.320 because you know why. This is what I'm trying to say. 1:24:19.520 --> 1:24:21.160 This is the point I'm trying to say. Over there, 1:24:21.320 --> 1:24:24.599 think about that, everybody, because you made me make sense again. 1:24:25.920 --> 1:24:28.160 What I'm trying to say is the average person that 1:24:28.280 --> 1:24:33.200 goes on to yes will probably ever never ever make 1:24:33.280 --> 1:24:36.880 it to the never most like, so the thing is 1:24:38.439 --> 1:24:41.400 hard on but you can't if I'm a kid, right, 1:24:41.600 --> 1:24:45.080 which I was, If I listened to this interview bird's 1:24:45.080 --> 1:24:48.080 eye view and I hear that, I can't internalize that. No, no, 1:24:48.240 --> 1:24:50.479 but this is the thing. This is the difference between 1:24:50.479 --> 1:24:54.560 the other one. The only way the one is that 1:24:54.680 --> 1:24:57.240 if I think I'm the one, the reason why people 1:24:57.600 --> 1:25:00.280 don't realize I didn't think I was the one, you're 1:25:00.360 --> 1:25:02.880 the first one. Like I'm gonna be honest, He's not 1:25:03.000 --> 1:25:06.840 the first one charge generation that I know that did 1:25:06.920 --> 1:25:11.400 it from. Because when people say independent, they mean empire, 1:25:11.840 --> 1:25:15.639 meaning they go to a person who bullshit. Okay, hold 1:25:15.760 --> 1:25:19.240 let me tell you that. Great examples, but the great 1:25:19.280 --> 1:25:24.760 example and not explaining to make it super clear, right, 1:25:24.960 --> 1:25:28.880 when people say independent, they actually mean I'm not signed 1:25:28.920 --> 1:25:32.639 to a major label, but I have empire. Okay, empire. 1:25:33.080 --> 1:25:35.000 Hold on, you know what empire is? Empires. If you 1:25:35.000 --> 1:25:40.080 get enough shame that they upstream you didn't, You're not independent, bro, 1:25:40.200 --> 1:25:42.720 because Atlanta has the Atlantic has the hooks and you 1:25:42.800 --> 1:25:45.000 and the phasing you. I was sitting in the basement 1:25:45.080 --> 1:25:48.360 doing it. So what what this whole what my whole 1:25:48.400 --> 1:25:52.080 ship is about? Bros? Honestly, yes, once I trashed at fourteen, 1:25:52.160 --> 1:25:56.640 for sure, But did I have the belief that superseded 1:25:56.800 --> 1:26:00.200 the skill love at the time to see myself because um, 1:26:00.760 --> 1:26:03.640 this staple center thing. Yes, And that's the key is 1:26:03.720 --> 1:26:07.280 that you have to you have to own every step 1:26:07.360 --> 1:26:09.360 of the way. Yeah, you are trash right now, but 1:26:09.439 --> 1:26:11.320 you have to own that you are that. But you 1:26:11.560 --> 1:26:15.200 also are step tend that you may not even see. 1:26:15.320 --> 1:26:20.000 Right now, let me pick him up a little bit more. No, 1:26:20.160 --> 1:26:24.840 support that. He come on, let me lets me say this, 1:26:26.040 --> 1:26:31.160 you no supporting act because I want to touch on 1:26:31.200 --> 1:26:34.719 that too. And then you was greedy too. You don't 1:26:34.760 --> 1:26:43.320 even bring it. You're like not at tie, you know 1:26:43.360 --> 1:26:46.800 what I mean? She was like supporting that. He was 1:26:46.800 --> 1:26:53.200 like and like, you know what's crazy is that I'm 1:26:53.840 --> 1:26:56.960 I'm so the dust had settled. Like I said to year, 1:26:56.960 --> 1:26:59.000 we can get it out even more, but the dust 1:26:59.080 --> 1:27:01.120 had settled, and I'm so we're happy with where I'm 1:27:01.120 --> 1:27:04.800 at because, Uh, I rubbed everyone the wrong way and 1:27:04.840 --> 1:27:06.720 I still got there my way. How do you rub 1:27:06.840 --> 1:27:08.640 everyone the wrong way and you still making fours? And 1:27:09.280 --> 1:27:12.320 all that makes me want to say is that is 1:27:12.560 --> 1:27:17.080 fucking idiotic And it doesn't matter so uh doing the stables, man, 1:27:17.160 --> 1:27:22.960 It's just it's it's if y'all wanted me to be humble, 1:27:23.240 --> 1:27:26.280 more humble and a little bit more quiet, you should 1:27:26.320 --> 1:27:29.320 not have let me done that, you know what I'm saying. 1:27:29.400 --> 1:27:31.640 And the thing we're not having openers just like bro 1:27:33.640 --> 1:27:36.120 artists need to understand that they need to they need 1:27:36.160 --> 1:27:39.240 to map out their audience, and too many artists are 1:27:39.360 --> 1:27:42.880 down to uh, you know, I'll go on tour with 1:27:42.960 --> 1:27:46.080 seven artists and we'll sell out five thousand people. It's like, yeah, 1:27:46.160 --> 1:27:48.960 that all looks great and good and dandy and everything, 1:27:49.040 --> 1:27:52.479 but how many tickets are you good for? How many 1:27:52.520 --> 1:27:55.320 tickets are you good for? Y'all never know because you're 1:27:55.360 --> 1:27:59.840 always a four piece thing. Like I always made it 1:27:59.880 --> 1:28:02.000 a point to myself, like I said earlier, like I'm 1:28:02.000 --> 1:28:04.880 trying to pull myself right. I want to do Staples 1:28:05.400 --> 1:28:08.000 by myself so that I know if I do two 1:28:08.080 --> 1:28:11.280 thousand tickets and that's what I'm good for it. But 1:28:11.360 --> 1:28:14.040 if I do sell out Staples, when I sell out, 1:28:14.920 --> 1:28:16.960 put it like this. Even when I sell out Staples 1:28:17.000 --> 1:28:20.280 and it's me, snooth tie whoever the funk it is, 1:28:20.920 --> 1:28:25.960 it wasn't because of them. And you need that and 1:28:26.080 --> 1:28:27.880 you have to prove it to yourself. And that's my 1:28:28.000 --> 1:28:30.000 whole thing is prove it to yourself, Like all this 1:28:30.040 --> 1:28:33.240 ship what My My debut album is the first album 1:28:33.439 --> 1:28:40.200 ever in hip hop history history to be a produced, mixed, 1:28:40.360 --> 1:28:44.160 massive engineer, written performed by one person, no outside vocals. 1:28:44.520 --> 1:28:47.720 And I've heard all the names, y'all fucking suggest it 1:28:47.800 --> 1:28:51.680 does not take two seconds to just do research that 1:28:51.880 --> 1:28:54.920 person they didn't produce it all. They didn't mix it all. 1:28:55.280 --> 1:28:58.920 I'm talking about engineering, make the whole ship come on. 1:29:00.000 --> 1:29:05.000 Has it sounds perious, but it's like it's like it's like, 1:29:05.280 --> 1:29:07.320 only did I do my whole debut album like that, 1:29:07.880 --> 1:29:11.479 but it went platinum and I had seven songs off 1:29:11.560 --> 1:29:15.280 that album with the Black that has never been done before. 1:29:19.040 --> 1:29:21.720 Not only now, I said, not only was I the 1:29:22.680 --> 1:29:26.280 first and only person in in the history of this 1:29:26.439 --> 1:29:30.600 ship to do every aspect of the music. That's the production, 1:29:30.920 --> 1:29:33.840 the mixing, the mastering, the engineering, when you're in the 1:29:33.920 --> 1:29:38.759 boothe thing's recording, you me, the writing, the sink everything. 1:29:39.080 --> 1:29:42.000 I'm the only one to ever do it. And y'all 1:29:42.040 --> 1:29:45.559 can bullshit just whatever, do the research because they look 1:29:45.640 --> 1:29:48.400 and I love these people's music, the j Coles, the Traffs, Scott, 1:29:48.520 --> 1:29:50.880 that's what they always say. Just it takes two seconds 1:29:50.920 --> 1:29:54.519 to do Google. They didn't, They didn't do everything. Someone 1:29:54.560 --> 1:29:56.800 else might have mixed this one or engineered this one 1:29:56.840 --> 1:30:02.760 of that code tild But I'm just saying, like, listen, 1:30:04.479 --> 1:30:07.200 not listening. I'm not saying that to diminish whatever they're doing. 1:30:07.280 --> 1:30:10.720 I'm just saying, like, don't you have do you not 1:30:11.040 --> 1:30:15.240 dare have the audacity to diminish what I'm doing because 1:30:15.320 --> 1:30:17.439 you can't stomach the fact that it is simply more 1:30:17.520 --> 1:30:20.960 than what these people are doing it. Yeah so, but 1:30:21.320 --> 1:30:24.599 but don't don't diminish what the funk I'm doing because 1:30:24.600 --> 1:30:27.800 the people who do mix and I'll leave my boy 1:30:28.040 --> 1:30:33.440 five with Tie Todd at Scott like ali, um, yeah, liked, 1:30:33.920 --> 1:30:37.519 that's something Like they all they all know what's something. 1:30:37.520 --> 1:30:39.320 They know how much I appreciate it because I do it, 1:30:39.439 --> 1:30:42.600 So I like more than these fucking bozo artists. I 1:30:42.720 --> 1:30:44.680 know what goes into your craft, so I appreciate you 1:30:44.760 --> 1:30:47.280 even more. Let me ask you, let me finish. Let 1:30:47.320 --> 1:30:54.080 me finish a record that you didn't produce. Yea, I've 1:30:54.080 --> 1:30:59.920 done it hundred percent. But it's like it's about selfish 1:31:00.080 --> 1:31:07.400 right now. So after this, yeah, that's all good. So 1:31:08.360 --> 1:31:10.360 so when I'm looking at ship like that, I'm like, yo, 1:31:10.840 --> 1:31:15.280 this is the first of its kind. So it's just whatever, 1:31:15.520 --> 1:31:17.400 Like if you don't want to respect it, then you 1:31:17.479 --> 1:31:18.880 respect it. If you don't respect it and you don't 1:31:18.920 --> 1:31:20.560 respect it. But the reality is that this is what 1:31:20.680 --> 1:31:23.479 it is. This is not fuck bragging people thought when 1:31:23.479 --> 1:31:27.240 I was when I was uh, Oh, here's the fucking 1:31:27.400 --> 1:31:30.280 ridiculous thing. When I'm when I'm putting out a song, 1:31:30.320 --> 1:31:33.280 I say produced makes the engineer written by me? Right, 1:31:33.439 --> 1:31:35.920 it's a problem. Now let me put out a song. 1:31:36.240 --> 1:31:39.120 Why have none of those roles? But I don't credit 1:31:39.160 --> 1:31:42.679 to people who do. People will say you can't give 1:31:42.760 --> 1:31:46.559 credit to the producer. Oh wait, hold on, pick a side. 1:31:46.880 --> 1:31:49.720 You got a problem with you crediting producers or you 1:31:49.840 --> 1:31:52.599 don't because I credited the producer on all my catalog 1:31:52.840 --> 1:31:54.559 It just so happened to be me. So you really 1:31:54.600 --> 1:31:56.720 tell me what you have a problem with. You got 1:31:58.200 --> 1:32:01.720 you gotta problem with men? You feel me? What do 1:32:01.760 --> 1:32:05.200 you have a problem with me crediting producers on me 1:32:05.360 --> 1:32:07.720 being that ill you pick? I know what it is, 1:32:07.760 --> 1:32:09.519 but I'll wait for you to own that ship. I 1:32:09.600 --> 1:32:11.880 know what's up because let me put out a song 1:32:11.960 --> 1:32:14.400 that was mixed by that guy, produced by this guy, 1:32:15.920 --> 1:32:20.240 and people say you can't credit him. Oh no, I can, 1:32:20.880 --> 1:32:23.280 and I have. But I thought y'all had a problem 1:32:23.360 --> 1:32:25.320 with that. Oh no, never mind, you just had a 1:32:25.360 --> 1:32:27.360 problem with the fact that I was a starting team 1:32:27.479 --> 1:32:30.120 by myself. That's what you have a problem with, because 1:32:30.120 --> 1:32:33.200 then because it's a mirror. It's a mirror that shows 1:32:33.280 --> 1:32:36.360 you yourself what you are not doing. Because if I'm 1:32:36.400 --> 1:32:40.320 doing five tasks, it puts the mirror on you and asks. 1:32:40.360 --> 1:32:44.120 It makes you ask yourself. Man, I'm only making beest 1:32:45.439 --> 1:32:48.960 now if you're an insecure person to be like, fuck you, Yeah, 1:32:49.000 --> 1:32:51.880 you do five things? Fuck you? You know why? Because 1:32:51.920 --> 1:32:55.519 you're like, it reminds you what you're not doing. I 1:32:55.640 --> 1:33:03.559 remind you what you're not doing. Usually the drink chance 1:33:03.680 --> 1:33:06.599 is the part of the story where I actually be asked, oh, 1:33:06.760 --> 1:33:10.880 I'm not sure, asked, wait, what if we ask if 1:33:10.920 --> 1:33:17.640 you eat? Oh? No, what are you gonna ask? No? 1:33:18.840 --> 1:33:23.280 What we take? You know what I'm trying. You know 1:33:23.320 --> 1:33:26.200 what I'm probing to. No girl could ever like no 1:33:26.600 --> 1:33:28.880 girl if they ever said it's just a lot like 1:33:29.400 --> 1:33:32.160 but no one went like no. But I will say this. 1:33:32.640 --> 1:33:35.759 I will say this. I don't know what happens at forty, 1:33:39.560 --> 1:33:44.880 but I'm twenty six. I'm just saying, like I heard, like, 1:33:44.960 --> 1:33:52.760 it's a it's an older thing thing, so that you 1:33:52.880 --> 1:34:10.640 obviously why anyone if you're a fan of russ at 1:34:10.680 --> 1:34:12.280 this point, you've had every reason to not be a 1:34:12.320 --> 1:34:14.800 fan of me, and the biggest and the only reason 1:34:14.880 --> 1:34:17.160 that matters is peer pressure. Because you have watched every 1:34:17.240 --> 1:34:21.960 peer of yours between fifteen and twenty one or twenties 1:34:22.000 --> 1:34:24.920 say fuck Russ, and so you've had every reason to 1:34:24.960 --> 1:34:26.920 be like you know, you know what ship. I don't 1:34:26.960 --> 1:34:28.280 want to be the one kid of my friend I 1:34:28.400 --> 1:34:30.200 got fans like that all the time. They hit me up, like, man, 1:34:30.200 --> 1:34:32.000 all my friends don't suck people. I folk with you like. 1:34:32.360 --> 1:34:35.080 I love those fans because that shows me that I'm 1:34:35.120 --> 1:34:37.120 making a difference as far as like you're the strong 1:34:37.240 --> 1:34:39.599 one of your friend group. You don't just get moved 1:34:39.680 --> 1:34:43.840 by media bullshit or just peer pressure. You feel me. So, uh, 1:34:44.080 --> 1:34:46.120 I have faith and I know what's up because my 1:34:46.280 --> 1:34:48.519 fans are still here. You had every reason by now 1:34:51.520 --> 1:34:53.880 I'm hand it right to you. Let's attack of dead on. 1:34:54.000 --> 1:34:56.600 IM prom had it right to you. Let's tack ded on. 1:34:56.760 --> 1:34:59.800 Do you think that because if you think, um, if 1:34:59.840 --> 1:35:02.760 you were black, right, yeah, not to say like you 1:35:03.520 --> 1:35:06.120 you want to be black, but if you were black, 1:35:06.160 --> 1:35:09.640 do you think you you'll be Kanye West? Because at 1:35:09.680 --> 1:35:11.320 the end of the day, well, I would say this, 1:35:12.240 --> 1:35:13.760 I would say this, and this might get people mad. 1:35:13.800 --> 1:35:18.040 Don't worry I won't get cancer right here. Uh, if 1:35:18.080 --> 1:35:20.160 I was black, more black people would sucking me, but 1:35:20.240 --> 1:35:24.519 less white people were. So the reality is like I'm 1:35:24.560 --> 1:35:29.760 not black, I'm white, so naturally more white people sucking me, right, 1:35:30.320 --> 1:35:35.240 just like if you're you know, it just is what 1:35:35.320 --> 1:35:39.600 it is. People always say, like, you know, and we 1:35:39.680 --> 1:35:42.599 can just address that right now. Uh, you know, being 1:35:42.640 --> 1:35:45.040 white and hip hop and that whole thing. Being white 1:35:45.080 --> 1:35:47.880 and hip hop makes it way easier to reach the masses, 1:35:48.360 --> 1:35:52.920 makes it way harder to reach hip hop, you know 1:35:52.960 --> 1:35:54.439 what I'm saying. So it just depends on what you 1:35:54.640 --> 1:35:56.760 like if you were only now, if you were using 1:35:56.880 --> 1:35:58.960 hip hop as a vessel to get to the masses, 1:35:59.200 --> 1:36:02.400 then you don't care or that you're white, because you 1:36:02.439 --> 1:36:04.479 aren't trying to reach hip up anyway. You were just 1:36:04.560 --> 1:36:08.240 going for the pop lane. I was always am in 1:36:08.320 --> 1:36:11.439 love with hip hop, So that definitely bothers me, just 1:36:11.560 --> 1:36:14.200 because I understand it and I accept it, and I 1:36:14.320 --> 1:36:16.920 know that by me being white, I'm reaching just the masses, 1:36:17.320 --> 1:36:18.880 but I know that it makes it harder for me 1:36:18.920 --> 1:36:20.400 to reach the people that I wanted to reach and 1:36:20.439 --> 1:36:23.280 that I want to reach. Yeah, And so like I 1:36:23.360 --> 1:36:25.080 understand that I accept that, but like I said, I 1:36:25.200 --> 1:36:27.479 know that if I was black, I would reach more 1:36:27.520 --> 1:36:33.200 black people unless white people thought goes because that was deep. 1:36:33.280 --> 1:36:37.000 You know, listen, listen, I'm gonna be honest with you. Yeah, 1:36:38.360 --> 1:36:43.240 that was probably the most illiest ship I've ever heard. No, no, no, 1:36:43.880 --> 1:36:47.080 that's serious. I know. It was like, like, that's that's 1:36:47.280 --> 1:36:51.040 that's real, because the thing about it is, sometimes that's 1:36:51.080 --> 1:36:53.920 what I'm metting about lipsey ship. Yeah, sometimes you damn 1:36:53.960 --> 1:36:57.599 if you do. Meaning if you go to the hood, 1:36:58.160 --> 1:37:01.240 certain type of it means you gotta keep up. You're 1:37:01.280 --> 1:37:03.720 in the hood. Yeah, people, but if you don't go 1:37:03.840 --> 1:37:06.200 to the hoodood and that's also a certain type of 1:37:06.240 --> 1:37:09.640 imagy that I keep up too. So sometimes you can't win. No, 1:37:09.800 --> 1:37:11.880 you lose either way. You lose either way, and that 1:37:12.080 --> 1:37:15.320 that's the crazy ship is. We just talked about your 1:37:15.479 --> 1:37:18.960 luxurious life and everything that's good, but in that form, 1:37:19.640 --> 1:37:23.040 sometimes you lose, lose. And that's why it's like, you know, 1:37:23.120 --> 1:37:25.920 what I bank on is truth, and I bank on 1:37:26.000 --> 1:37:30.080 the fact that I'm gonna die at some point. That's reality. 1:37:30.760 --> 1:37:33.519 It's not everyone's gonna die. How did we get here? Well? No, 1:37:33.760 --> 1:37:42.240 but now listen, listen, you are that's just beautiful. That's 1:37:42.280 --> 1:37:46.040 just beautiful. You believe that that's what it is actually 1:37:46.080 --> 1:37:48.679 gonna happen because you have left behind ship that extends 1:37:48.720 --> 1:37:52.600 your body. I would say, like, I'm everyone, I'm omnipresent 1:37:52.720 --> 1:37:57.160 because y'all listening to me in Australia without me being there. 1:37:57.840 --> 1:38:01.200 But I am there because my music transcending my body. 1:38:01.280 --> 1:38:03.479 So now my soul is just permeating throughout the world 1:38:03.960 --> 1:38:06.519 and the ethos of it. So I know him a die. 1:38:06.560 --> 1:38:08.200 So I'm just trying to leave behind the truth because 1:38:08.200 --> 1:38:10.880 the truth will transcend all the hoop blond, the bullshit 1:38:11.000 --> 1:38:12.920 that happens in between the six months that the interview 1:38:12.960 --> 1:38:15.920 goes out, y'all will start yelling and y'all will have 1:38:16.040 --> 1:38:19.400 your whole think piece about reasons why russ should beat 1:38:19.400 --> 1:38:23.720 that all these like because you're or just like just insane. 1:38:25.240 --> 1:38:29.280 Just ask if y'all got one people thinking I'm close 1:38:29.280 --> 1:38:33.040 to Luminati. I'm started to think me too. I start 1:38:33.960 --> 1:38:37.920 I just left that we're gonna have calendar, that's why 1:38:37.960 --> 1:38:43.200 he's going on. I'm I'll start playing with people like 1:38:44.560 --> 1:38:48.360 I think it's ridiculous. Yeah, So it's just like, it's 1:38:48.360 --> 1:38:52.439 not ridiculous. I think it's whatever. Honestly, that's how y'all 1:38:52.479 --> 1:38:56.320 know that I'm definitely not because I think it's ridiculous. 1:38:56.360 --> 1:38:58.320 And I also like when mother fucker sent me d 1:38:58.479 --> 1:39:01.600 M is like, yo, please just watch out for this. 1:39:01.800 --> 1:39:05.519 He's like, Yo, okay, that one was not good. That 1:39:05.640 --> 1:39:09.640 one was not good. Question. No, I'm like, bro, like, 1:39:10.360 --> 1:39:14.360 you have got to stop, you know, wanting d NT 1:39:14.520 --> 1:39:18.120 and watching Netflix and going down the round YouTube. If 1:39:18.160 --> 1:39:21.080 a person say that you're yeah, I'll take it as 1:39:21.080 --> 1:39:23.799 a complement. That just means that I am so winning 1:39:23.840 --> 1:39:26.200 that you can't comprehend it that you have to talk 1:39:26.240 --> 1:39:30.519 about and imaginary you're will positive than me. When I 1:39:30.600 --> 1:39:34.479 think about that, I'm saying that you wanted to piss 1:39:34.479 --> 1:39:36.800 on the fucking sneakers like I don't even want to. 1:39:36.960 --> 1:39:39.800 I want to piss on the ankles like song still 1:39:39.880 --> 1:39:43.800 like dry and it's an is up because I'm like, yo, like, 1:39:44.120 --> 1:39:46.800 do you understand how hard I work? Like I'm the 1:39:46.920 --> 1:39:49.640 first person here, the last person? Like what you do? 1:39:49.640 --> 1:39:55.519 Want to take it with everything? See what I did? 1:39:56.120 --> 1:40:00.120 You beat me here today? You just made it is 1:40:00.120 --> 1:40:05.160 going to change the game. Okay, let's change. Here's the analogy. 1:40:06.439 --> 1:40:12.840 The industry plant of today. It's synonymous with the Illuminati 1:40:12.920 --> 1:40:17.920 of the old head. Absolutely absolutely as bullshit as it is. 1:40:19.040 --> 1:40:21.840 Illuminati is actually more bullshit. Industry plan is based on something, 1:40:21.840 --> 1:40:25.400 but it's it's that same. It's so successful that it 1:40:25.600 --> 1:40:28.280 must have to do with something. Now before before you 1:40:28.320 --> 1:40:31.719 say anything, this, this is my little saying. Just slow 1:40:31.720 --> 1:40:33.639 it out there and it's done. Please do another around 1:40:33.680 --> 1:40:40.640 the tiger bombs too. Tiger bone can say bombs or 1:40:40.680 --> 1:40:47.880 some rum in your elbow, something, my manifesting something. So 1:40:48.000 --> 1:40:49.720 what I this is what I say. This is what 1:40:49.840 --> 1:40:59.880 I say. The conspiracy is the conspiracy. Wow, I like that, chick. 1:41:00.000 --> 1:41:06.519 I think it's great. What's the mad great? Just gotta 1:41:06.560 --> 1:41:14.160 say deep, I'm now you gotta get because now you 1:41:14.600 --> 1:41:20.759 pisscard me to know we're gonna take Pistre already shots 1:41:20.800 --> 1:41:25.160 he go birth hold on Now it's not told the Wow, 1:41:26.920 --> 1:41:30.120 So my dog, I think he's here. Oh he's back there, 1:41:31.360 --> 1:41:36.759 So show Park is still alive. And don't Donald's drop crazy. 1:41:41.120 --> 1:41:43.680 They got a bit too. If you watching a roll 1:41:46.439 --> 1:41:48.320 out of all the deliberation, that's what you left with 1:41:48.439 --> 1:41:55.600 as a segway, yea, so always amazing. My dog is 1:41:55.600 --> 1:41:59.120 always got two bucks, a live Bucks two bucks and 1:41:59.200 --> 1:42:04.640 trained dat boy the Flyers. I didn't be one when 1:42:04.680 --> 1:42:07.439 he was alive. So I would like to meet Hibody's dad. 1:42:07.640 --> 1:42:11.720 I always I always tell my dog the conspiracy is 1:42:11.760 --> 1:42:14.400 a conspiracy. I'm not mad at that because I'm kind 1:42:14.400 --> 1:42:17.559 of into that. They will always feed you something else, 1:42:18.680 --> 1:42:22.080 confused the ship out of you, absolutely, so you'd be like, nah, 1:42:22.479 --> 1:42:24.920 this is it, and then y'all it distracted me from 1:42:24.920 --> 1:42:27.080 the truth. That's a lie. You like the Cuban dr 1:42:27.120 --> 1:42:40.360 C taking a pitch cut version, I'm going right after that. Yeah, yeah, 1:42:40.720 --> 1:42:47.960 don't don't. We called my pa outside its Dominican doll 1:42:48.840 --> 1:42:58.560 like like I can seg picking up paren cimvil that 1:42:59.040 --> 1:43:08.000 that he's happening. Are we recording right now the bathroom 1:43:08.000 --> 1:43:10.320 with a laser on the head. Somebody has a laser 1:43:10.439 --> 1:43:15.840 and it's not happening. Let me know what we're recording, 1:43:15.880 --> 1:43:18.439 because I honestly do want to just take a second 1:43:18.479 --> 1:43:21.200 the big upcare and silver for sure. Yeah, you know 1:43:21.280 --> 1:43:26.800 what the crazy thing is. Yes, we're ready, we'll be good, 1:43:30.000 --> 1:43:41.360 rolling room, get it and we're back in this Hey, 1:43:41.400 --> 1:43:52.680 guitar sponsors charmon, I mean this bottle least? How do 1:43:52.960 --> 1:43:57.280 you shut off? Play? Hold on? But how did they 1:43:57.360 --> 1:44:04.920 get this copyright? Because because there are best oh you know, hello, 1:44:08.520 --> 1:44:11.960 that's something like that's something like your best but there 1:44:12.080 --> 1:44:20.559 was shut up, Come on, friends, I don't know y'all, 1:44:22.040 --> 1:44:30.840 y'all mutual friends don't know yet give me that ye yo, 1:44:31.000 --> 1:44:45.640 shout out to h the best liqudrink. You're not, but 1:44:45.720 --> 1:44:54.639 I do want to, Yeah, yeah, yes, perfect typing can 1:44:54.800 --> 1:44:59.920 civil is an absolute superhero, not super woman, not super 1:45:00.040 --> 1:45:06.680 man superhero. Wats how crazy this is? It was one 1:45:06.720 --> 1:45:08.640 of those things like a booking agent Carroll Lewis that 1:45:08.680 --> 1:45:12.880 I always I knew because I studied the behind the scenes. 1:45:12.880 --> 1:45:14.840 I didn't like, yeah, you were rapping, you were making 1:45:14.840 --> 1:45:18.240 the beats, but who is doing everything else? Right? So 1:45:18.360 --> 1:45:21.840 I studied that. So Karen Sivil, like I, we knew 1:45:21.880 --> 1:45:26.880 about her pretty early on. So my best friend who 1:45:26.920 --> 1:45:28.880 I started diving with, which is d I E M 1:45:28.880 --> 1:45:30.400 O N Dude Everyday Music, And I think it was 1:45:30.439 --> 1:45:33.000 a company we started when we were seventeen, because honestly 1:45:33.080 --> 1:45:34.600 started as the website we were tried to put them 1:45:34.640 --> 1:45:37.599 songs on media fire. We wanted to just you get 1:45:37.640 --> 1:45:39.439 it from our website, not media fire, right, So that's 1:45:39.439 --> 1:45:41.280 how I started. Then it turned into a logo and 1:45:41.400 --> 1:45:44.960 close in this right um, which is why we always 1:45:44.960 --> 1:45:48.240 funk with Nipsey because it was like we saw we 1:45:48.320 --> 1:45:56.640 saw the same ship Um solen Um Warren Californio. We 1:45:56.680 --> 1:46:00.439 go to Nipsey shop. I'm eighteen, he's eighteen. Uh. We 1:46:00.560 --> 1:46:03.760 buy clothes like that's a funny story, but the math. Yeah, 1:46:03.760 --> 1:46:05.840 we go to the store that store. Bookis had on 1:46:05.920 --> 1:46:08.600 a hoodie, all red hoodie with a big bee on it, 1:46:09.040 --> 1:46:12.519 and I had on black air Force ones with red laces. 1:46:13.040 --> 1:46:15.599 And we pull up and right before we get out 1:46:15.640 --> 1:46:18.320 of the car and what're seventeen eighteen? We don't know, 1:46:18.560 --> 1:46:20.360 Like we're just moving off the music and we're like yo. 1:46:21.000 --> 1:46:23.479 I was like, man, you got a something called blue laces. 1:46:23.560 --> 1:46:26.120 I was like, it's probably a great idea to go 1:46:26.240 --> 1:46:31.040 in with red laces. So so so we go in there. 1:46:31.120 --> 1:46:33.280 Booky stays off the hoodies. There's like a black teeth 1:46:33.479 --> 1:46:36.080 and I take out the liss my air Force ones 1:46:36.320 --> 1:46:38.439 and we go in. But it was such a cool 1:46:39.040 --> 1:46:41.679 memory for me because like Black Sam was there and everything, 1:46:41.720 --> 1:46:43.600 and it was just like it was dope, you know 1:46:43.640 --> 1:46:45.479 what I mean? It was it was we saw a 1:46:45.640 --> 1:46:48.080 lot of ourselves in that and it was such an 1:46:48.120 --> 1:46:52.880 inspiration um the story itself, the Storytelf and just the 1:46:52.920 --> 1:46:56.160 fact of branding yourself and making it bigger than you. Like. 1:46:56.360 --> 1:46:59.320 So we had Diamond that that was what was the 1:46:59.400 --> 1:47:04.000 original ship. Oh, Karen Civil. So that was so boosts. 1:47:04.080 --> 1:47:07.400 Older brother Jinior is doing ship with tech, you know 1:47:07.439 --> 1:47:09.479 what I mean. So we go out to l A 1:47:09.720 --> 1:47:14.880 for a couple of months, like September to October, and 1:47:16.560 --> 1:47:22.120 we're just going to the guys station and this is September. 1:47:22.360 --> 1:47:24.200 We're going to the guys station. We see Karen Civil. 1:47:25.120 --> 1:47:30.639 But to recognize that it's Karen Civil, Yeah, takes. That's 1:47:30.680 --> 1:47:33.200 what the trick is because a lot of y'all don't 1:47:33.200 --> 1:47:35.000 recognize when your blessing is right in front of you 1:47:35.400 --> 1:47:37.800 because y'all don't do enough education. You mostly want the 1:47:37.840 --> 1:47:40.120 person that's in front of the camera, the person. Most 1:47:40.160 --> 1:47:43.679 of y'all think that until I see Drake in person, 1:47:44.439 --> 1:47:49.560 I am not successful. You don't realize that. Yeah, So 1:47:50.120 --> 1:47:54.360 we saw Karen Civil in at the gas station and 1:47:54.479 --> 1:47:57.599 we were like we hopped out, got pictures, just set 1:47:57.640 --> 1:48:00.559 what's up there? Whatever? And I remember I during her 1:48:00.600 --> 1:48:02.720 on Twitter like yeah, I met the guess checking on 1:48:02.840 --> 1:48:05.680 music like badgering, and I still like play around with 1:48:05.720 --> 1:48:08.080 her on that like yo, were here from the gas station. 1:48:08.720 --> 1:48:11.120 But she used to like hit me back every once 1:48:11.160 --> 1:48:12.680 in a while, like I know we met at the 1:48:12.720 --> 1:48:16.120 gay station like basically shut up, you know. But I 1:48:16.240 --> 1:48:20.280 was persistent, and the second I got uh, you know, 1:48:20.840 --> 1:48:23.080 I started living this life and and everything happened the 1:48:23.120 --> 1:48:25.439 way it happened. I was like, you know what, you know, 1:48:25.600 --> 1:48:28.559 Karen Civil because she's been an idol to me as 1:48:28.600 --> 1:48:31.240 far as that world for so long. Now that I have, 1:48:32.280 --> 1:48:37.559 you are already successful when I met her. Nothing I'm 1:48:37.600 --> 1:48:40.880 saying four or five years past before I actually hired her. 1:48:41.600 --> 1:48:44.200 How were you? What were you successful at that point 1:48:44.320 --> 1:48:46.720 you hired? When I hired her, Yeah, I hired it 1:48:46.800 --> 1:48:50.920 like last year. I'm saying you, Yeah, I know what 1:48:51.000 --> 1:48:55.160 I'm saying. To recognize her when you have eight hundred followers, 1:48:55.479 --> 1:48:57.560 let you know that my head was not only on 1:48:57.680 --> 1:49:00.360 who was making the hits, it was who was doing 1:49:00.400 --> 1:49:04.720 everything around. But that's what I'm saying that when you're successful, 1:49:05.080 --> 1:49:12.479 it's also ingenious of yourself. Thank you just to recognize 1:49:12.520 --> 1:49:16.000 that well, because I didn't. I didn't forget once it 1:49:16.120 --> 1:49:18.200 got successful. She was always kind of in the back 1:49:18.240 --> 1:49:20.040 of my head like a Carrol Lewis was where it's like, 1:49:21.160 --> 1:49:23.680 I'm assemble a team, like a dream team, Like I 1:49:23.760 --> 1:49:26.400 got the music unlock. I got it. Now whatever comes 1:49:26.479 --> 1:49:29.439 from that, like now I'm working with boy one in stories, 1:49:29.479 --> 1:49:32.640 like whatever naturally comes from that is cool. But I 1:49:32.800 --> 1:49:37.080 got that unlock. If not now these other components, I 1:49:37.160 --> 1:49:38.960 need someone who can just rebound. I need someone who 1:49:39.000 --> 1:49:42.559 can just etcetera. So I always had a can Civil 1:49:42.600 --> 1:49:44.040 and a Carrol Loose in the back of my mind. 1:49:44.160 --> 1:49:48.800 But um cancer was just a superhero. She she right 1:49:48.920 --> 1:49:53.240 with the mac Miller ship, insane, insane from what it 1:49:53.360 --> 1:49:55.559 was said, I don't whatever, I don't want to say 1:49:55.560 --> 1:49:59.000 the long thing. But she found the body, right, that's 1:49:59.000 --> 1:50:02.240 what that That's what I said, but definitely don't quote 1:50:02.240 --> 1:50:04.240 me on it. But regardless of that happened to that, 1:50:04.360 --> 1:50:06.519 she was Hella close with him. So she loses him 1:50:06.680 --> 1:50:10.360 within six months. You lose Nipsey another close friend and 1:50:10.560 --> 1:50:12.599 for you to still put on. The event you put 1:50:12.680 --> 1:50:16.320 on is you're a superhero. You feel me like you're 1:50:16.400 --> 1:50:20.479 just a superhero. So there's nothing short of a praise 1:50:20.600 --> 1:50:23.360 that she's you know what I mean, Like there's it's 1:50:23.400 --> 1:50:28.240 just a superhero thing. Because to to take the pain 1:50:28.960 --> 1:50:32.559 and to flip it in triumph and and recognize as 1:50:32.560 --> 1:50:34.840 bigger than you is. It's so I remember when I 1:50:34.880 --> 1:50:37.360 told her that, because I'm going to give the roses 1:50:37.360 --> 1:50:45.360 while they're here. So that's a period your platinum debut albums, 1:50:45.520 --> 1:50:48.720 seventh certified songs on the album, and merce hip hop 1:50:48.880 --> 1:50:54.200 artists to ever go platinum on their debut album completely 1:50:54.320 --> 1:50:59.360 self produced, written, mixed, and mastered entirely. Yes, And then 1:51:03.080 --> 1:51:05.920 that's some fucking incredible ship. I'm gonna be honest. I 1:51:06.000 --> 1:51:08.840 know you know you're crazy as the motherfucker because because 1:51:08.920 --> 1:51:14.759 listen to right rhymes, you gotta be insane. To right rhymes, 1:51:14.760 --> 1:51:18.080 you gotta be insane. And when I stood with Swiss Beat, 1:51:18.120 --> 1:51:20.080 Swiss Beasts was the first producer that I went in 1:51:20.160 --> 1:51:23.280 the studio with and I realized that in order for 1:51:23.320 --> 1:51:25.040 you to make beats, you also got to be crazy 1:51:25.080 --> 1:51:29.160 as well. Because because Swiss we played me some Ship 1:51:29.280 --> 1:51:31.599 sometimes and I'll be in a student with him. I'm like, nah, 1:51:32.040 --> 1:51:34.360 but this is my rhyme. And the Siss to be like, oh, Ship, 1:51:34.400 --> 1:51:36.760 you got your rhyme already, bro, And I'm like yeah. 1:51:36.800 --> 1:51:40.800 And with Primo that was normal what everyone else does. 1:51:40.960 --> 1:51:42.840 But you know me and Swiss. You know, I think 1:51:42.880 --> 1:51:45.080 I'm a year older than Swiss. I think I'm forty one. 1:51:45.120 --> 1:51:49.320 I think Swiss is forty. So um, when we're in 1:51:50.439 --> 1:51:52.680 and the Swiss will had to make the rhyme to me. 1:51:53.000 --> 1:51:55.639 So Swiss kept going so was he was he doing 1:51:55.720 --> 1:51:58.320 the d t or raps where you rapp into the D. No. 1:51:58.600 --> 1:52:00.439 This is what I'm trying to say is working with 1:52:00.640 --> 1:52:02.880 Swiss because I was I had the rhymes already roll, 1:52:04.040 --> 1:52:05.800 so I kept doing it. So how we got from 1:52:05.840 --> 1:52:10.160 Bad from TV was but the se So how he 1:52:10.240 --> 1:52:12.200 got from you know, that's how we got Bad from TV? 1:52:12.360 --> 1:52:15.559 But all five of us was. What happened was, Um, 1:52:16.160 --> 1:52:18.439 I did a song called I'm Leaving on the Firm 1:52:18.560 --> 1:52:23.160 album and it was actually Nature's session. It was Nature's 1:52:23.479 --> 1:52:26.439 song everything. But I was the dude that I always 1:52:26.520 --> 1:52:28.560 had rhymes in my ship. So when I walked in 1:52:28.680 --> 1:52:31.200 the studio, Dr dre said you gotta rhyme and I 1:52:31.240 --> 1:52:34.640 was like, yeah, I walked in Late Diverse. But the 1:52:34.760 --> 1:52:37.719 whole time I'm like, yo, this is Nature's session. Any 1:52:37.840 --> 1:52:41.599 other dudes would be like, he's a fucking thick faces. 1:52:42.479 --> 1:52:44.280 This is my session. Why would you say you gotta 1:52:44.360 --> 1:52:47.040 rhyme with Dr Dreke says do you have a rhyme? 1:52:47.680 --> 1:52:52.280 Because it's Dr dre'diot. You know what I'm saying? You 1:52:52.360 --> 1:52:55.160 know what? So I right, I ain't asked anybody if 1:52:55.160 --> 1:52:58.920 he was cool. You know session? You like, yo, Yo, 1:52:59.439 --> 1:53:02.840 you got you know JayR s and Jay look you 1:53:02.880 --> 1:53:06.760 gotta rob Like usually dude was wanted to say it 1:53:06.880 --> 1:53:09.280 was the cool I showed j but I was like, yo, 1:53:09.360 --> 1:53:11.120 my dude, I'm cool. He asked me, I'm going in 1:53:11.439 --> 1:53:13.400 boom I went, and I said, no, we know this, 1:53:14.280 --> 1:53:18.160 we know that. No, you know why I can make 1:53:18.200 --> 1:53:20.920 your rays and I swear I killed it in the 1:53:21.040 --> 1:53:23.439 first tape. But I think Dr Dream was so much 1:53:23.560 --> 1:53:25.760 like a perfectionist. He was like, just do it one 1:53:25.760 --> 1:53:29.400 one time, and I was like, no problem, And I 1:53:29.479 --> 1:53:31.960 did it one one time boom. So my thing was 1:53:32.560 --> 1:53:37.000 to pay to pay nature back from our head because 1:53:37.200 --> 1:53:40.240 I don't gonna lie. In my mind, I might have 1:53:40.280 --> 1:53:46.280 said you here. So that's how Bad from TV got created. 1:53:46.280 --> 1:53:49.000 It was because I had the whole rhymes with Swiss. 1:53:49.040 --> 1:53:50.320 Getting back to what I was trying to tell you, 1:53:50.760 --> 1:53:55.240 I had these rhymes with Swiss and we had the record, 1:53:55.360 --> 1:53:58.679 but then we had to squeeze in nature. So nature 1:53:59.000 --> 1:54:01.200 he didn't like anything at me and Swiss had laid 1:54:01.320 --> 1:54:05.560 down prior to that, and then at this point I 1:54:05.760 --> 1:54:08.880 almost giving up. I was like, damn, man, so you 1:54:08.920 --> 1:54:11.719 said you squeezed in nature because of what happened before, 1:54:12.120 --> 1:54:18.519 because he didn't hate on so I'm trying to squeeze 1:54:18.560 --> 1:54:20.600 him in, but he don't like nothing that me and 1:54:20.680 --> 1:54:24.519 Swiss trying. So I'm almost like, man, this is not 1:54:24.600 --> 1:54:28.320 gonna work out. So at the very last end, this 1:54:28.479 --> 1:54:31.240 has been crazy. That's why band from TV work was 1:54:31.360 --> 1:54:33.600 part of Hit Me Again. It was like where you at? 1:54:34.160 --> 1:54:36.160 And I was like in the studio, punch just hung up. 1:54:36.200 --> 1:54:38.600 You never asked me where. I never asked me where 1:54:38.600 --> 1:54:40.640 because he just had to connect on me. He always 1:54:40.720 --> 1:54:43.400 knew all my friends around that he didn't care about, 1:54:44.880 --> 1:54:48.400 you know, like I don't even know what fucking motherfucker. 1:54:48.920 --> 1:54:53.560 So um, So what happens is Swiss switches the beat 1:54:53.680 --> 1:54:57.960 and it's the band from TV. Be So I don't 1:54:59.200 --> 1:55:00.720 I can't say I don't like to be I just 1:55:00.840 --> 1:55:03.760 I didn't love to be the first, but nature went 1:55:03.960 --> 1:55:08.480 right in. Just lady. So what happens is Pun walks 1:55:08.520 --> 1:55:12.760 in the studio at that same time, and we're all 1:55:12.960 --> 1:55:15.840 chilling whatever whatever. I go to the bathroom. I'm going 1:55:15.840 --> 1:55:17.640 down stands and smoke a cigarette because I always I 1:55:17.760 --> 1:55:21.800 smoke cigarettes at the time and I hated to smell 1:55:21.840 --> 1:55:26.720 a cigarettes, which is which is weird. And I came 1:55:26.760 --> 1:55:29.160 back and punted head just laid his verse, and I 1:55:29.280 --> 1:55:32.160 was just like to the engineer, funck boy, what the 1:55:32.280 --> 1:55:35.440 fox wants? The engineers looking at me like you wanted 1:55:35.480 --> 1:55:42.320 me to tell him this is a different engine there. 1:55:42.800 --> 1:55:47.480 But I'm looking at like but in my mind, pun 1:55:47.760 --> 1:55:51.680 killed the verse. But I also have to have my respect. 1:55:51.760 --> 1:55:54.440 This is MYRS, but this is my session, so I 1:55:54.560 --> 1:55:56.240 gotta be a little cocky. I'm gonna be like, Yo, 1:55:56.320 --> 1:55:57.920 why the fund you did that? But that's what the 1:55:57.960 --> 1:56:01.680 fucking the way bad from TV happened, your rust man. Listen, 1:56:01.960 --> 1:56:10.400 we got more salute the last one salute, But let 1:56:10.440 --> 1:56:12.080 me just say that was a bad one as well, 1:56:13.840 --> 1:56:17.200 not as bad as the previous. I don't think we're 1:56:17.280 --> 1:56:22.120 venturing into Yeah, okay, let me just tell you I admire. 1:56:23.000 --> 1:56:25.320 This is where I'm got to not let anything back. 1:56:25.360 --> 1:56:32.320 But I really really admire zilious. It was zilious. I 1:56:32.440 --> 1:56:36.120 really admire how so many artists, so many people who 1:56:36.200 --> 1:56:43.000 was in your same position, we have not only gave up, oh, 1:56:43.760 --> 1:56:46.880 they would have failed. They would have gave up miserably 1:56:47.440 --> 1:56:49.480 because they would their whole life would have been ruined. 1:56:50.960 --> 1:56:53.200 And I know I actually listened a certain way before. 1:56:53.920 --> 1:56:57.040 But so you when you first start making money, when 1:56:57.160 --> 1:56:59.640 is that point where you like, this is it for me? 1:56:59.840 --> 1:57:02.800 I have to stay here because you know what it was? 1:57:05.160 --> 1:57:10.120 Uh it? Once again, I think that it wasn't the 1:57:10.240 --> 1:57:12.640 point and it was so it wasn't a money thing. 1:57:12.840 --> 1:57:15.880 It wasn't a point. It was it was more of 1:57:18.000 --> 1:57:22.880 uh in emotion, like because my parents were we got 1:57:22.960 --> 1:57:27.600 to a place where well, my brother had a fiance, 1:57:27.920 --> 1:57:30.720 my sister wasn't was going to school, was going to college, 1:57:31.480 --> 1:57:33.440 and it was me, my mom and my dad in 1:57:33.480 --> 1:57:38.640 the house and this is uh right, So this is 1:57:38.760 --> 1:57:40.760 like I remember, we moved around a lot, and I 1:57:40.800 --> 1:57:43.680 always look at for myself, my personal life and my moments. 1:57:44.200 --> 1:57:46.800 I looked back at the houses I lived in throughout 1:57:46.840 --> 1:57:51.600 Georgia as like these um bullet points for my musical career. 1:57:51.800 --> 1:57:57.520 So I remember moving to that house. Uh. Um it 1:57:57.640 --> 1:57:59.920 was a smaller it was a smaller house. We kept 1:58:00.480 --> 1:58:04.400 uh downsizing, which like with my dad's pride and everything naturally, 1:58:04.480 --> 1:58:06.480 because I remember having that conversation with him where he 1:58:06.560 --> 1:58:09.920 was like, yo, I'm I'm not supposed to be going backwards. 1:58:10.240 --> 1:58:13.280 I'll never forget that. So we started going backwards. So 1:58:13.360 --> 1:58:15.440 we end up to this place. But I remember moving 1:58:15.480 --> 1:58:18.280 there to the smaller to the smallest house we had, 1:58:18.360 --> 1:58:23.360 and it was, um, it was like, man, uh, but 1:58:23.480 --> 1:58:25.000 this is gonna be the house that I blew up in. 1:58:25.560 --> 1:58:29.160 I remember saying that on the sidewalk and post the 1:58:29.200 --> 1:58:33.000 house with my mom. I remember saying it, and I 1:58:33.240 --> 1:58:36.120 was it was so I was now was when I 1:58:36.240 --> 1:58:38.240 was twenty one. We I was twenty one because I 1:58:38.280 --> 1:58:42.760 turned twenty two that year in September, So I was. 1:58:43.040 --> 1:58:45.680 I know I was for short doing music, but there 1:58:45.800 --> 1:58:49.160 was nothing in my present day life to co sign 1:58:49.280 --> 1:58:51.600 my belief and people need to understand that you need 1:58:51.680 --> 1:58:55.560 to operate off a delusion most of the time because 1:58:57.000 --> 1:59:01.720 no delusion, but like you have to find, you have 1:59:01.920 --> 1:59:06.400 to find the delusion. It's it's whatever you right, it's faith, 1:59:06.600 --> 1:59:09.040 whatever you want to call it, it's it's faith in 1:59:09.160 --> 1:59:12.480 the delusion. So I remember just being like, it's just 1:59:12.560 --> 1:59:14.760 gonna work and that's it, and I don't want to 1:59:14.800 --> 1:59:16.440 hear anything about it. She's just gonna work. And I 1:59:16.600 --> 1:59:21.120 was it is, it's me. But it's also when I 1:59:21.280 --> 1:59:24.520 was five and my brother was a year older than me, 1:59:24.600 --> 1:59:26.440 and my dad was always our basketball coach at the 1:59:26.520 --> 1:59:30.080 rack and the wine type of ship, and you know, 1:59:30.200 --> 1:59:32.200 me always wanted to play with the older kids, and like, 1:59:32.400 --> 1:59:35.760 I just always wanted it. I just always I always 1:59:35.760 --> 1:59:38.200 wanted to prove to myself that I was really, really dope. 1:59:38.520 --> 1:59:41.320 And doesn't maybe even stem off of an insecurity probably 1:59:41.840 --> 1:59:44.360 you know what I'm saying. Probably probably, But if that 1:59:44.480 --> 1:59:49.560 insecurity fuelled self love and fueled self exploration, then I'll 1:59:49.600 --> 1:59:53.040 take it. Then I'll then I'll bite that's be bumped 1:59:53.360 --> 1:59:56.160 if I find the fast length, you feel me? So, uh, 1:59:57.120 --> 1:59:59.160 I wanted to prove to myself that I was as 1:59:59.200 --> 2:00:01.080 great as I was. You feel me when I was 2:00:01.160 --> 2:00:04.080 talking myself up in my room when I was eighteen 2:00:04.160 --> 2:00:06.680 and one, like man, nothing has happened yet, no song 2:00:06.760 --> 2:00:09.160 is blown up, but I'm sucking ill. Like I would 2:00:09.160 --> 2:00:10.880 say to myself in my head, I would believe it. 2:00:11.000 --> 2:00:14.000 It wasn't just saying. It was feeling how you feel 2:00:14.040 --> 2:00:18.000 being the illness. And so when it happened, right, it wasn't. 2:00:18.320 --> 2:00:21.160 It wasn't this oh my god surprise. It almost felt overdue, 2:00:21.720 --> 2:00:25.680 which is why you end up chasing this imaginary thing 2:00:25.880 --> 2:00:29.760 because if I always feel put it like this. I 2:00:29.920 --> 2:00:32.000 have wanted Grammy in my head so many times that 2:00:32.080 --> 2:00:34.600 when I went to Grammy, it won't feel as special 2:00:34.800 --> 2:00:38.200 as if I wasn't expecting you know what I'm saying, 2:00:38.400 --> 2:00:41.400 Because I've wanted like I went platinum on my debuts 2:00:41.520 --> 2:00:43.560 so many times in my head before it happened that 2:00:43.600 --> 2:00:45.920 when it did happen, I was just kind of like 2:00:46.360 --> 2:00:50.840 our time, Motherfucker's are slow. Was kind of robbed myself 2:00:50.960 --> 2:00:54.280 of how great the moment is. But the antithesis of 2:00:54.400 --> 2:00:57.160 that is that it also allows me to stay hungry, 2:00:57.600 --> 2:01:01.440 because if my quench of thirst if my thirsty plays 2:01:01.600 --> 2:01:03.800 right there with the platinum debut, I always want to 2:01:03.880 --> 2:01:06.600 platinum debut album. Now I gotta platinum debut album. If 2:01:06.680 --> 2:01:08.960 that right there, quench my thirst And guess what, I 2:01:09.080 --> 2:01:11.600 got rich and I stopped trying, and I'm this. I'm 2:01:11.600 --> 2:01:13.240 sitting here in on ount of my business. But the 2:01:13.320 --> 2:01:16.680 reality is that I was me before y'all realized I 2:01:16.800 --> 2:01:19.440 was me. So by the time y'all recognized I was me, 2:01:19.800 --> 2:01:21.240 I was off me. I was onto a new me. 2:01:21.680 --> 2:01:23.800 So now y'all got to catch up to this different version. 2:01:24.000 --> 2:01:29.200 What's my man? That do the plays? He was on 2:01:30.400 --> 2:01:37.560 Kurbie Enthusiasmanda, I see legendary. Who's that? What's the name 2:01:39.440 --> 2:01:43.840 the Hamilton's do? That does Hamilton's? I mean, if you 2:01:44.720 --> 2:01:47.920 the thing about it this he was the first reporter, 2:01:51.680 --> 2:01:54.120 Larry David, So he's the first guy to say, you 2:01:54.240 --> 2:01:58.520 know what, I'm gonna do a play Hamilton's over, but 2:01:58.560 --> 2:02:00.600 I'm gonna do it in the hip hop that's hard. 2:02:00.720 --> 2:02:03.280 He was the first one that did it, so everyone 2:02:03.480 --> 2:02:07.120 hated him right for the first five, six, seven years. Again, 2:02:07.200 --> 2:02:10.840 let's get deep. It was out there so and that's 2:02:10.880 --> 2:02:13.120 what that's what I'm saying that's what you're mommy of me, 2:02:13.240 --> 2:02:17.960 because like I just feel like nothing this anybody, but 2:02:18.280 --> 2:02:21.720 like you're kind of like you saw a vision that 2:02:21.760 --> 2:02:25.480 a lot of people that don't see. And if you 2:02:25.600 --> 2:02:27.560 was to say it like yo, smarter than everybody can 2:02:27.680 --> 2:02:31.240 come off. But if I was just saying like, yeah, 2:02:31.360 --> 2:02:34.440 you know what's fucked up is that? Wasn't this based 2:02:34.520 --> 2:02:36.880 off of cockiness? Let me ask, Let me ask two 2:02:36.920 --> 2:02:41.160 fold a question. Wasn't this based off of the culture 2:02:41.880 --> 2:02:44.920 the culture? Wasn't it based off of I felt commedia, 2:02:44.920 --> 2:02:47.520 I'm talking to my ship. Okay, So it's two folds. 2:02:47.600 --> 2:02:50.480 So then the second fold is like, Okay, let's say 2:02:50.520 --> 2:02:53.520 it's not based off of that. Right, Let's for conversations 2:02:53.600 --> 2:02:56.000 like absolutely disagree with Let's say it's not based off 2:02:56.000 --> 2:02:59.520 of that. Let's say, what are these artists now who 2:02:59.560 --> 2:03:03.600 are twenty twenty one who they're cocky, but not about 2:03:03.680 --> 2:03:08.480 hip hop, not about the craft. They're cocky about getting 2:03:08.520 --> 2:03:12.520 high or buying gucci or buying So y'all are cocky 2:03:12.640 --> 2:03:17.680 about being, uh, you don't work with gay people, but 2:03:17.800 --> 2:03:20.880 y'all are cocky about wearing gay people's clothes who don't 2:03:20.920 --> 2:03:25.120 sunk with you. So how does how does that make sense? 2:03:25.320 --> 2:03:28.640 Because you gotta understand that I'm cocky about self sufficiency 2:03:29.000 --> 2:03:32.800 only my master's producing, mixing everything. I'm cocky about selling 2:03:32.840 --> 2:03:35.200 our Staples center with no openers and selling hard tickets 2:03:35.200 --> 2:03:39.920 and owner my ship. Y'all are cocky about rocking gay 2:03:39.960 --> 2:03:42.280 people's clothes, and you say you don't work with gay people. 2:03:42.440 --> 2:03:44.600 Y'all are how do you not work with gay people? 2:03:45.000 --> 2:03:47.480 Gay people are the endness. Y'all are wearing their clothes 2:03:48.240 --> 2:03:52.000 I know about. How do y'all say that that's insane 2:03:52.080 --> 2:03:56.640 when you actually think about the The mental facory of 2:03:56.720 --> 2:03:59.640 that is that you have a culture of people who say, 2:03:59.720 --> 2:04:02.040 I don't don't funk with gay people, but I just 2:04:02.240 --> 2:04:07.640 wear all of their clothes. How fucking insane are you? 2:04:08.360 --> 2:04:11.000 That's why I don't listen to anything those people are 2:04:11.080 --> 2:04:14.480 talking about. They are so lost, they don't know they're lost. 2:04:15.400 --> 2:04:18.960 They are. They are so caught in fuckory that they 2:04:19.040 --> 2:04:21.720 think fuckers where they're from. It's I'm not I'm not 2:04:21.760 --> 2:04:23.880 talking about any of those people. But I got something bigger. 2:04:24.080 --> 2:04:26.600 I got something bigger. Bro let me respect from New 2:04:26.680 --> 2:04:32.520 York City. Every year in the playoffs, maybe twelve fifteen 2:04:32.600 --> 2:04:41.680 years Michael Jordan's came and destroyed us, and destroyed what 2:04:41.760 --> 2:04:44.640 I'm trying to tell you. I hated Michael Jordan my 2:04:44.720 --> 2:04:48.480 whole life, but I also loved Michael Jordan's and I 2:04:48.600 --> 2:04:53.000 also loved his Kicks. So the thing is, I could 2:04:53.080 --> 2:04:55.840 hate what you actually do, but if I really love 2:04:55.960 --> 2:04:58.560 what you're doing, I'm not a hater. The thing is, 2:04:59.480 --> 2:05:03.000 sometimes when I find out that Michael Jordan owns private 2:05:03.080 --> 2:05:06.480 prisons and things like that, it hurts me. Yeah, but 2:05:06.680 --> 2:05:13.320 when the New Sevens come out, really not that's real though, 2:05:13.720 --> 2:05:15.960 that's real, that's real. I wanted me to do you 2:05:16.080 --> 2:05:19.760 want me to lie? Not this stream? Chance is it not? 2:05:20.720 --> 2:05:27.240 It's not to say, let's get ain't going to trust 2:05:29.040 --> 2:05:32.360 agree with you? It's not. And it's not about about 2:05:32.520 --> 2:05:35.080 you know it's about to come up. You know. Line 2:05:35.160 --> 2:05:38.840 was about you know what my line was my life 2:05:39.000 --> 2:05:41.760 was I'm from New York. It's not gonna get me kids, 2:05:41.760 --> 2:05:45.040 but it's in my line, my people, I'm from New York. 2:05:45.880 --> 2:05:48.800 This is my line. Listen, it's my line. I'm from 2:05:48.880 --> 2:05:52.560 New York. Still I'll be hating the Knicks and Jordan's, 2:05:54.160 --> 2:05:58.800 but still I'll be rocking his kids. That was give 2:05:59.000 --> 2:06:04.960 up that I don't see because I'm real about I 2:06:05.200 --> 2:06:07.200 not like you because you killed my knicks and you 2:06:07.360 --> 2:06:10.520 killed it. But if you watch some look there right now, 2:06:10.560 --> 2:06:15.640 I'm sing with your n's like those is all showing 2:06:15.720 --> 2:06:19.480 the camera, showing the camera. Come everyone with the camera. 2:06:19.600 --> 2:06:22.320 I ain't let me even see these. They literally their 2:06:22.400 --> 2:06:25.000 nineteen hunting. I'm gonna stand on the table. No, no, 2:06:25.160 --> 2:06:26.960 put your feet up. It's okay, it's okay, we've done 2:06:27.000 --> 2:06:30.880 it before. Look it. Let it do. Come on, take 2:06:30.920 --> 2:06:34.400 a picture. Do all type of ship because that I 2:06:34.400 --> 2:06:37.400 ain't never seen those. I don't even know what those is. 2:06:38.040 --> 2:06:41.200 On the low. Those is hard on. Let me not. 2:06:41.480 --> 2:06:43.880 Let me know when y'all snap, they look expensive. He 2:06:43.960 --> 2:06:46.480 was like, you were just like meeting with DJ Kalik. 2:06:46.560 --> 2:06:52.600 I'm gonna throw it out there. Oh yeah, I gotta relax. 2:06:56.520 --> 2:06:59.280 We're gonna say to you what were we saying? What? 2:07:01.720 --> 2:07:04.160 Hold on? Can't I would say, you're about being cancels 2:07:04.360 --> 2:07:11.080 figuring out how about hate? It talks about hate, talking 2:07:11.120 --> 2:07:14.680 about that minute he was gonna come in some good 2:07:14.760 --> 2:07:17.840 ship than go on your man, I reckon, I'm talking 2:07:17.840 --> 2:07:21.280 about Jordan. Jordan's like guys sometimes like a funk with 2:07:21.320 --> 2:07:23.160 something that I don't funk with, like you know, yeah, 2:07:23.240 --> 2:07:28.720 let me find out. I just added, I'm about throwing 2:07:31.520 --> 2:07:35.160 kicks said for New York still hates the kid, but 2:07:35.360 --> 2:07:38.600 Jordan's still be backing his kicks sometimes it sounds like 2:07:38.720 --> 2:07:41.080 a great rap song. Guy, y'all honestly don't want me 2:07:41.120 --> 2:07:45.720 to because that's going to get cancer. That's gonna kiss 2:07:45.760 --> 2:07:47.280 me off. So I need to remember that. That was 2:07:47.400 --> 2:07:51.400 so hard. What was he was talking about where like 2:07:51.600 --> 2:07:59.440 I was, he was saying something about wearing clothes. Yeah, 2:08:01.120 --> 2:08:03.800 he said he would never say this, and then bomb 2:08:04.280 --> 2:08:10.800 never happens again. I can just start talking up what 2:08:10.920 --> 2:08:13.800 the reality is that? All right? We were talking about 2:08:13.840 --> 2:08:16.800 the designers that people wear and used the flex for 2:08:16.880 --> 2:08:20.960 their own uh self improvement with their flexing designers. You 2:08:21.040 --> 2:08:26.200 don't like them, and and that's insane, that's insane. That's 2:08:26.240 --> 2:08:29.320 what I went to a Pierre you Weet party time. 2:08:30.080 --> 2:08:35.560 I'm sorry, but this is definitely no but you know what, 2:08:35.680 --> 2:08:39.720 you know, you know it's crazy. Let me let me 2:08:39.760 --> 2:08:42.640 segway this. Sorry, I'm segway into a bigger topic now. 2:08:43.200 --> 2:08:45.480 Whatever we're about to talking about try about that last 2:08:45.560 --> 2:08:50.960 twenty seconds, the realities. I've talked to artists who didn't 2:08:51.080 --> 2:08:56.200 understand the power in merch and owning their merch and 2:08:56.320 --> 2:08:59.080 I was like, yo, I was like, you don't understand. 2:09:00.600 --> 2:09:03.720 You're on i G Stories every day. I just spent 2:09:03.800 --> 2:09:07.400 thirty at Gucci. I just spent You're giving Gucci and 2:09:07.720 --> 2:09:10.120 Louis And, like I said, a lot of people who 2:09:10.240 --> 2:09:14.080 don't funk with you, right, who unless you have the 2:09:14.160 --> 2:09:17.040 accolades and status you have. But that's I'll get in 2:09:17.120 --> 2:09:20.920 that next. But you're out here giving them promotion. I 2:09:21.040 --> 2:09:24.280 was like, you're selling Gucci and proud of for them 2:09:24.320 --> 2:09:26.480 and they're not even paying you. You're actually paying them 2:09:26.600 --> 2:09:29.320 thirty thousand to shop from the story. I was like, Yo, 2:09:29.640 --> 2:09:33.120 the reason why merchant is beautiful is because you love clothes, right, 2:09:33.160 --> 2:09:36.560 you love fashion, rock your own ship. So now all 2:09:36.600 --> 2:09:39.520 the same I G stories. You're rocking your ship. You're 2:09:39.600 --> 2:09:42.640 rocking Rocket Feller, You're rocking whatever the funk it is. 2:09:42.840 --> 2:09:45.680 You're rocking your ship. And the same people who you 2:09:45.720 --> 2:09:48.600 would have directed towards Gucci, you're not directing towards yourself 2:09:49.080 --> 2:09:54.320 because you realize that people don't care about the brand. 2:09:54.360 --> 2:09:59.360 They care about who's selling. It's been around. He's sold 2:09:59.400 --> 2:10:03.160 charged clothes, church closing. That nigg is the less because 2:10:03.160 --> 2:10:07.800 he answered he serves church close. Nigger. That was all. 2:10:08.160 --> 2:10:12.320 But it's like respected, that was weird. Well well yeah, 2:10:12.360 --> 2:10:17.040 but when the church collection in the church, is that 2:10:17.240 --> 2:10:22.440 not weird? Standing the same selling? Yeah, that's superta. I'm 2:10:22.480 --> 2:10:28.600 just thinking of some bulls. But church collection, which is 2:10:28.680 --> 2:10:33.080 the lookers church collection. You don't sell your church collection. 2:10:33.160 --> 2:10:42.080 Hold on, hold because you said merchant. Hold on, you said, 2:10:42.680 --> 2:10:45.640 you said he you shouldn't be selling church clothes. You 2:10:45.680 --> 2:10:49.520 shouldn't be No, don't sell the church game at all. Okay, 2:10:49.720 --> 2:10:54.920 I hear you. So let's be there, let's go there, 2:10:55.160 --> 2:10:59.480 let's go. I'm not selling church close. However, I believe 2:10:59.640 --> 2:11:03.640 that people are only gonna be down for and accept 2:11:03.720 --> 2:11:06.320 whatever you accept for yourself. So if you decide to 2:11:06.480 --> 2:11:09.800 sell church close, guess what the consumer who is ienas 2:11:10.120 --> 2:11:13.880 gonna do buying church close. So now the buys a 2:11:14.040 --> 2:11:17.880 lot some of the some of the service, the devil. 2:11:19.080 --> 2:11:23.720 It would it would sound crazy. That's like the reality 2:11:24.040 --> 2:11:29.480 is that dumbasses. The consumer. The consumer reacts gat to 2:11:29.800 --> 2:11:33.160 controlled like idiots that. Yeah, but so when it happens, 2:11:33.280 --> 2:11:36.160 then you have to not hold the but you can't 2:11:36.200 --> 2:11:39.880 controy your fans. Let me trying to get the most. 2:11:43.600 --> 2:11:46.880 You know what, I look at you, you know you 2:11:46.960 --> 2:11:51.280 know what. I know that because you don't want that sometimes, 2:11:51.720 --> 2:11:54.480 because sometimes it's crazy. The thing about it is, sometimes 2:11:54.600 --> 2:11:59.040 we don't want a product. It's just like you said, 2:11:59.160 --> 2:12:01.920 you ate was the sixteen year old, the fourteen year 2:12:01.960 --> 2:12:07.000 old that was. I didn't say that. I didn't let 2:12:07.040 --> 2:12:23.960 me go on taking drugs. Let me finish ye you 2:12:24.040 --> 2:12:27.240 want to care you said, you said, you said, I'm 2:12:27.280 --> 2:12:29.720 sorry I said that old wrong. But you know what 2:12:29.760 --> 2:12:32.640 I'm saying. Your shirt, huh, your shirt was for them 2:12:32.720 --> 2:12:39.880 to prevct this. What I'm saying is that shirt was 2:12:40.080 --> 2:12:43.120 for them to prevent that right, for them to the 2:12:43.200 --> 2:12:46.840 fourteen year olds, for them to prevent the stipping lane. 2:12:47.280 --> 2:12:49.400 You know all that I'm drinking lean, but you know, 2:12:49.640 --> 2:12:53.320 you know who that audience hit. It was hitting everybody 2:12:53.360 --> 2:12:57.920 who was on lean, everybody who was your peers, not 2:12:58.080 --> 2:13:00.320 to people who you was trying to speak that was 2:13:00.440 --> 2:13:02.360 younger than you, that's coming up. That's who was trying 2:13:02.360 --> 2:13:06.240 to save their lives. But the message actually hit you know, 2:13:06.320 --> 2:13:09.840 the little verbs and all these guys, everybody who wanted 2:13:09.880 --> 2:13:12.320 to say, what the fun is? God thinks he's better 2:13:12.360 --> 2:13:15.440 than us. Because so that's the point I was trying 2:13:15.480 --> 2:13:23.520 to make. I hate all. No, no, no, I respect that. 2:13:23.640 --> 2:13:29.400 I respect picture no. We went in man, you know, 2:13:29.520 --> 2:13:32.680 let me just say something. What I got. I think 2:13:32.720 --> 2:13:35.680 I got about one more question? Bro got anybody else 2:13:35.760 --> 2:13:39.920 got got way more answers. Let's go and and And 2:13:40.040 --> 2:13:45.000 that's the thing about you, um is so many people 2:13:45.160 --> 2:13:50.440 think that's your stand offish m hm. You want to 2:13:50.520 --> 2:13:55.480 know why. That's beautiful because I would rather be assumed 2:13:55.920 --> 2:13:58.080 I don't funk with you than I do funk with you. 2:13:58.640 --> 2:14:02.160 That's real one of your famous ships, because I don't. 2:14:02.320 --> 2:14:04.920 I don't work with y'all. And if I do funk 2:14:04.960 --> 2:14:07.880 with y'all, you will know. Like the crazy thing is, 2:14:07.920 --> 2:14:11.600 like I love twenty nineteen right now because I'm working 2:14:11.640 --> 2:14:13.160 with people, and like I was always down to work 2:14:13.240 --> 2:14:15.560 with people, but I was just I was selective, Like 2:14:15.680 --> 2:14:18.440 I said, I wasn't doing collaps for the points like 2:14:18.720 --> 2:14:21.280 I have to like your music. I don't like him music. 2:14:21.320 --> 2:14:23.000 I'm not making a song with you. Like I still 2:14:23.440 --> 2:14:26.080 because I have that financial freedom that the independent Catalog 2:14:26.160 --> 2:14:28.360 gives me. I'm not doing it off of the check. 2:14:28.720 --> 2:14:31.200 So I'm doing it off of like do I actually 2:14:31.280 --> 2:14:33.200 funk with you? If I don't actually work with you 2:14:33.520 --> 2:14:35.800 and whatever you're saying, I'm not doing it. I don't care. 2:14:36.440 --> 2:14:40.840 We're looking for your're sitting over here, but it's not good. 2:14:42.000 --> 2:14:46.240 But that's what that's what it was about. So I'm 2:14:46.280 --> 2:14:50.520 just I'm moving off of this, like I funk with you. 2:14:51.080 --> 2:14:53.640 It's not a matter of anything else. Know, you're setting 2:14:53.720 --> 2:14:55.880 up something so great because you know what it is. 2:14:55.960 --> 2:14:58.640 That's my taste. You know, you know what my taste. 2:14:58.680 --> 2:15:00.840 I just want to taste. Like when you look at 2:15:01.800 --> 2:15:05.840 like you see those artists who hundred dollars for the 2:15:05.880 --> 2:15:11.560 feature today, only it's like it's like, YO, find a 2:15:11.680 --> 2:15:16.280 different hustle. You feel me because it's like you're out 2:15:16.360 --> 2:15:19.800 here just you're diminishing your own value of your ideas 2:15:19.880 --> 2:15:23.280 because you're wrapping and singing or whatever you're offering. It's 2:15:23.280 --> 2:15:25.880 a it's such a creative and tangible thing that you're 2:15:25.920 --> 2:15:27.640 offering that you don't even put a price on it. 2:15:27.720 --> 2:15:31.160 In general, is trash. Let them alone a hundred dollars, Like, 2:15:31.880 --> 2:15:35.000 now you're all you're doing is if you're letting the 2:15:35.080 --> 2:15:37.320 consumer know that you're not wor ship but a hundred 2:15:37.320 --> 2:15:41.160 dollars your own staffs Now, this is this is This 2:15:41.320 --> 2:15:44.040 is a crazy thing that's happening in our community right now. 2:15:44.520 --> 2:15:46.960 So many people are calling other people culture voters. Have 2:15:47.320 --> 2:15:49.960 been called a culture vote because I'm like, let me 2:15:50.000 --> 2:15:51.560 talk on that too, because the one needs to hear 2:15:51.600 --> 2:15:55.360 this ship too, and white people are gonna get piste off. 2:15:55.360 --> 2:15:59.920 But it is what it is. First of all, when 2:16:00.000 --> 2:16:03.200 need to we need to address a certain thing. I'm 2:16:03.240 --> 2:16:07.120 just waiting for my queer and I hit the mic, 2:16:07.280 --> 2:16:09.120 so now we'll start. First of all, we need to 2:16:09.160 --> 2:16:12.160 address a certain thing. Culture is an euphemism for black. 2:16:12.360 --> 2:16:13.960 That's what we need to first get out of the way. 2:16:14.120 --> 2:16:17.240 Because when you're in a room with the Columbia or 2:16:17.280 --> 2:16:20.040 an r C A or public or whatever you label 2:16:20.120 --> 2:16:23.400 yat um, it's really four. This is the other guy 2:16:23.440 --> 2:16:26.720 for what's four houses. They own every other label which 2:16:26.760 --> 2:16:29.520 is owned by that. You think you're signed to r 2:16:29.560 --> 2:16:32.760 C A and not Columbia Yellow Boast, You're signed it 2:16:32.800 --> 2:16:37.440 Sony exactly right. So boom. Alright, so I need rocket fello, 2:16:38.360 --> 2:16:44.720 doesn't not your floor elevators and the cubicles instead of 2:16:44.800 --> 2:16:48.680 the same way. That's why I know who do. But 2:16:51.160 --> 2:16:55.039 the reality is that culture is euphemism for black because, 2:16:55.040 --> 2:16:58.400 like I said, when you're in those offices and you no, 2:16:59.200 --> 2:17:01.160 let me, let me just do the whole point. When 2:17:01.280 --> 2:17:03.680 you're in those rooms where it's a long table. You 2:17:03.840 --> 2:17:09.000 watch all the white people who play softballs on Sundays 2:17:09.680 --> 2:17:14.280 use the words culture in the words urban as euphemisms 2:17:14.360 --> 2:17:16.400 for black because they say this is gonna be great 2:17:16.440 --> 2:17:18.920 for the urban audience, and this is gonna be great. 2:17:19.240 --> 2:17:22.240 Is it inappropriate for them to say the black audience? 2:17:23.800 --> 2:17:27.279 But I don't know, and I want you to continue 2:17:27.320 --> 2:17:29.680 because your own point. Yeah, what I'm trying to say 2:17:29.800 --> 2:17:33.080 is I think that it's been enterchangeable with Latinos too, 2:17:33.600 --> 2:17:35.680 like when they wanted to be Latin. You know, it's 2:17:35.720 --> 2:17:40.720 Latino when it's not sure. But hip hop, no, I agree, 2:17:40.879 --> 2:17:44.800 it's when it's convenient, right, And so that's yeah. But 2:17:44.959 --> 2:17:49.959 hip hop was started by black people as an intenthesis 2:17:50.080 --> 2:17:53.200 to white dominance and white bullshit. You feel me, So 2:17:53.959 --> 2:17:56.280 when you have a bunch of white people in a 2:17:56.520 --> 2:18:01.000 in a boardroom situation telling you, uh, the culture and 2:18:01.320 --> 2:18:04.120 urban youth and our urban radio. It's all euphemism from 2:18:04.160 --> 2:18:07.760 black right. So what they're doing, I might be attacked, 2:18:07.840 --> 2:18:11.920 but no what you're doing. I might be attacked, but 2:18:12.120 --> 2:18:14.960 go for it. But either way, but what they're doing 2:18:15.280 --> 2:18:24.080 is there. They're absolutely just manipulating that aspect. And it's 2:18:24.120 --> 2:18:28.440 just it's it's not just that you feel me, you 2:18:28.520 --> 2:18:31.960 got me sidehack. Let me just finish my ship. I 2:18:32.040 --> 2:18:34.039 gotta go other than get what was I talking about? 2:18:34.320 --> 2:18:36.119 I don't know. I know you've got mad not Jerry 2:18:36.160 --> 2:18:37.800 and niggas bros. Now I don't want to, I don't 2:18:37.800 --> 2:18:41.280 want talk about not. Let me just not. Let me 2:18:41.320 --> 2:18:43.880 just don't I feel y'all. But let me just go 2:18:44.080 --> 2:18:47.959 because otherwise I forget. No, we got a check when 2:18:47.959 --> 2:18:51.000 we got not you in eject. But just like yeah, 2:18:51.000 --> 2:18:55.480 I'm gonna lose my ship, little brother. Yeah, because because 2:18:55.480 --> 2:18:59.160 it's in point. Because it's like yo, like you have 2:18:59.240 --> 2:19:02.360 white people who say softball on Sundays dictating black culture 2:19:02.760 --> 2:19:05.600 and they're signing artists off of what the white fourteen 2:19:05.680 --> 2:19:09.119 year olds with meme accounts tell you is black culture. 2:19:09.680 --> 2:19:13.000 And so that's a problem. That's a problem. That's the 2:19:13.160 --> 2:19:16.480 root of it, because uh, face tattoos and all that 2:19:16.560 --> 2:19:21.640 ship was was game related off the red You're not 2:19:21.720 --> 2:19:24.000 getting face tattooess unless there was some ship behind it, 2:19:25.160 --> 2:19:27.440 not getting face tattoos in the aesthetic. So y'all are 2:19:27.520 --> 2:19:31.280 already emulating a lifestyle you're not about, but you are 2:19:31.400 --> 2:19:34.320 trying to sell that to people. And since you're the 2:19:34.440 --> 2:19:37.760 people you're selling it to, you're a fake selling it 2:19:37.959 --> 2:19:41.880 to little white kids who are the ones running the 2:19:42.040 --> 2:19:47.680 meme accounts in the digital real estate. That ends up 2:19:47.680 --> 2:19:49.920 shooting back up the lot of towards the labels who 2:19:50.000 --> 2:19:54.119 don't know anything. They end up signing people based off 2:19:54.160 --> 2:19:57.080 of whoever these people who fall for this lifestyle, who 2:19:57.080 --> 2:20:00.400 are falling for this it's just all the funk joke. 2:20:01.160 --> 2:20:03.560 It's all a joke. It's all a joke because you 2:20:03.680 --> 2:20:07.800 have the higher ups actually being dictated, tugged, and pulled 2:20:08.120 --> 2:20:10.600 by thirteen year old white kids who have meme accounts. 2:20:11.360 --> 2:20:16.960 But it doesn't make it harder him not you know why, 2:20:17.400 --> 2:20:21.920 because I win every time because it's the truth. It 2:20:22.000 --> 2:20:25.520 doesn't matter what you are talking about. What we do. 2:20:25.640 --> 2:20:27.880 Pull up the list it's brutal. You know how many 2:20:28.040 --> 2:20:33.360 artists have popped and only had a summer m hard? 2:20:33.480 --> 2:20:37.000 Lets you want to go through Boggis, where's your list? Ship? 2:20:38.959 --> 2:20:45.200 You buggers best friend? That's all boggers mono, what's going on? 2:20:46.280 --> 2:20:51.879 You already sound like you stab people. Now what I'm 2:20:51.920 --> 2:20:56.320 saying like, we gotta, we gotta really look at what's 2:20:56.320 --> 2:20:58.920 going on with inside of the ship. With inside of 2:20:58.959 --> 2:21:03.199 the ship. It's it's it's people who don't have any 2:21:03.280 --> 2:21:06.840 fucking crew and they get to be the bank for 2:21:06.920 --> 2:21:11.000 a little Nasax but they don't have any clue, and 2:21:11.280 --> 2:21:13.440 it's just it's so pathetic, and it's so sad to 2:21:13.520 --> 2:21:16.560 me because I really wish, like I could have told 2:21:16.600 --> 2:21:19.840 a little Nasacs like, yo, you will make way more 2:21:19.920 --> 2:21:24.560 than that by yourself, and let's say two million dollars deeper, 2:21:24.640 --> 2:21:28.120 you making that money. Whatever you agree to Columbia with 2:21:28.280 --> 2:21:31.400 you could have charged them double so you would have 2:21:31.440 --> 2:21:34.720 gotten this two middle off a tune corps. Plus it's 2:21:34.760 --> 2:21:37.280 still popping. But what if he did do that, if 2:21:37.320 --> 2:21:41.680 we don't know that he didn't, I could almost agree 2:21:41.680 --> 2:21:46.480 with you. I don't need to like without nobody's honest 2:21:46.560 --> 2:21:49.280 with this usually I have like inside information with this 2:21:49.640 --> 2:21:53.440 none at all. I don't have, like bro, sometimes you 2:21:53.480 --> 2:21:58.119 know the inside information in your gun period, I don't. 2:21:58.120 --> 2:22:02.760 I don't need to question my ship in time because 2:22:02.840 --> 2:22:05.800 I'm not gonna lie, just be honest. Little remind me 2:22:05.920 --> 2:22:13.480 of Little Wayne nas nas and an X reminds me 2:22:13.560 --> 2:22:16.600 of d m X. And then I looked at those 2:22:16.640 --> 2:22:20.560 three names and I was like, those jerseys to be retired, 2:22:21.280 --> 2:22:24.040 like any no one should never like I hate a 2:22:25.560 --> 2:22:27.920 DJ named Noriag. That's something to be honest. I hate 2:22:27.920 --> 2:22:32.800 you like and then there's a there's a producer. It's 2:22:32.840 --> 2:22:35.280 a producing name Noriega in Puerto Rico to I also 2:22:35.360 --> 2:22:38.000 hate you. I just want to throw that out there. 2:22:38.000 --> 2:22:39.560 I don't know when this episode is gonna come out, 2:22:40.360 --> 2:22:43.879 but you know, one of five in New York City, 2:22:44.360 --> 2:22:47.040 DJ nor what the fund is your problem? Like? Why? 2:22:47.520 --> 2:22:52.879 Like my I fucking fo yeah for this. It's talking 2:22:52.879 --> 2:22:56.440 about it like you're gonna be in Russell sim or Russell. 2:22:56.760 --> 2:22:59.720 You didn't, you didn't you chose to eat eat our 2:23:00.000 --> 2:23:03.359 of your name be Russ. So this is an extinctive 2:23:03.760 --> 2:23:07.080 Like I didn't even want to be Noriega. So I've 2:23:07.200 --> 2:23:09.720 written vin Nori and then you're gonna take my name. 2:23:10.040 --> 2:23:14.680 I've never liked it you. He's gonna be honest. I 2:23:14.800 --> 2:23:16.640 know I've seen you in Prower one on five. I 2:23:16.680 --> 2:23:18.840 don't gonna be fake too. I've learned how to be 2:23:18.920 --> 2:23:21.680 fake as well, because I was like up about this ship. 2:23:21.879 --> 2:23:27.360 I hadn't learned. I hadn't. I had seven lawsuits. They say, right, 2:23:27.400 --> 2:23:30.360 they say this will teach you to be a better criminal. 2:23:31.160 --> 2:23:34.840 The music business teachers. You have to be paid. That's 2:23:34.879 --> 2:23:38.240 why the longer you spend in it, the ones you 2:23:38.360 --> 2:23:42.480 pop out of it. That's why I don't frolic any 2:23:43.480 --> 2:23:50.800 I stay at my house. So wait, hold on, this 2:23:50.920 --> 2:23:55.760 is can't be the end. Back down. I'm not gonna 2:23:56.480 --> 2:24:02.680 let Okay, you're that's a human should be. Now we 2:24:03.560 --> 2:24:05.320 come on, come on. What you want to talk about? 2:24:05.600 --> 2:24:08.040 What I'm saying that I don't do this? What you 2:24:08.080 --> 2:24:10.240 want to what you want? I want to get something 2:24:10.280 --> 2:24:15.840 with your chat? Yeah, let me just tell you something. 2:24:15.959 --> 2:24:20.840 Let me just be honest with you. Um, what you 2:24:21.040 --> 2:24:26.640 have done is a blueprint. The reason why people not 2:24:26.800 --> 2:24:31.480 watched everything, the reason why people it's because you're the first. Yeah, 2:24:32.200 --> 2:24:35.000 and when you're the first you ever remember on Instagram 2:24:35.440 --> 2:24:40.120 you're the first first, but if you ever look at 2:24:40.160 --> 2:24:44.920 the comments that people say to them, it's horrible because 2:24:44.920 --> 2:24:50.600 they say sucking motherfucker. But at first, being the first 2:24:50.720 --> 2:24:53.760 was was a good ship. But this is what happened. 2:24:53.800 --> 2:24:56.280 So this is the reason why, because I look at 2:24:58.080 --> 2:25:00.360 I looked at everything, and I was like, like, yo, 2:25:00.600 --> 2:25:05.600 you know what I think he doesn't understand because this 2:25:05.720 --> 2:25:09.480 is what I feel. I feel like you accept being 2:25:09.560 --> 2:25:12.640 hated to a certain extent, but you don't really want to. 2:25:12.920 --> 2:25:16.360 But but the thing is, because you're so new at 2:25:16.400 --> 2:25:20.920 what you're doing, is it comes with the territory. It's 2:25:21.040 --> 2:25:25.279 fucked up, but it's gonna come. It's gonna be another 2:25:25.400 --> 2:25:28.440 rest it comes. Go on, let me just hit me out. 2:25:28.600 --> 2:25:30.640 It's gonna be another rest that comes. And then by 2:25:30.680 --> 2:25:33.440 the third or fourth Russ, you're gonna be like, You're 2:25:33.440 --> 2:25:37.360 gonna be like, oh, ship, I what I received, what 2:25:37.520 --> 2:25:40.880 you received was so light compared to what they're going 2:25:42.000 --> 2:25:44.920 because they might have more success than you, or even 2:25:45.040 --> 2:25:47.200 just as much success to you, but they're gonna have 2:25:47.360 --> 2:25:51.200 so much more hate because you were the first one. 2:25:51.720 --> 2:25:57.480 It's like Jesus Anhing without Judas so you have like 2:25:58.120 --> 2:26:02.160 Jesus story wouldn't even be ill without Judas. I don't know, 2:26:04.240 --> 2:26:12.600 can Yeah. One of the greatest Nipsey verses ever is 2:26:12.680 --> 2:26:15.200 on if you got the marathon, it was I don't 2:26:15.240 --> 2:26:16.960 give a funk now. If you had to wait to 2:26:17.040 --> 2:26:19.160 catch on them later, then the song was called Bigger 2:26:19.160 --> 2:26:22.600 than Life. But uh, I don't want your help, Just 2:26:22.760 --> 2:26:24.640 let me something through this. The world would not know 2:26:24.840 --> 2:26:27.640 Jesus Christ if there was never Judius. And the knight 2:26:27.720 --> 2:26:30.320 that's in my back could be the truth that introduce us. 2:26:30.959 --> 2:26:33.720 The distance in between us is the proof of my conclusions. 2:26:35.879 --> 2:26:38.480 But to say the world would not know Jesus Christ 2:26:38.560 --> 2:26:40.840 if there was never Judas and the knight that's in 2:26:40.959 --> 2:26:44.560 my back could be the truth that introduced us. That's 2:26:44.600 --> 2:26:49.760 fucking like all that that that explains his whole death 2:26:49.920 --> 2:26:55.080 is its ship. Who do you get killed by one 2:26:55.120 --> 2:26:58.960 of his home? So the world would not know Jesus Christ, 2:26:59.280 --> 2:27:01.760 Nipsey if they're was never Judas, and the knife that's 2:27:01.800 --> 2:27:03.920 in my back meaning I gotta stopped by my own 2:27:04.000 --> 2:27:07.200 people could be the truth that introduced us because once 2:27:07.320 --> 2:27:10.120 he got stabbed in the back by Judas, the word 2:27:10.200 --> 2:27:15.000 is now introduced Nipsey Hustle. I'm telling you he's become Jesus. 2:27:15.120 --> 2:27:16.640 And now if you want to go deeper, Jesus that 2:27:16.800 --> 2:27:20.120 a thirty three nity. I believe that too. I'm a 2:27:20.160 --> 2:27:24.240 conspiracy theorist. I believe that all my body for a reason. 2:27:25.160 --> 2:27:27.680 So that's the reason why me to you. To you, 2:27:30.200 --> 2:27:33.520 I feel like as great as you are as an artist, 2:27:33.560 --> 2:27:35.440 and you're going to continue to be great as an artist, 2:27:35.720 --> 2:27:41.040 your actual gift is being a businessman. So you have 2:27:41.200 --> 2:27:43.600 to open a business. Not to give you any business. 2:27:43.920 --> 2:27:45.920 You've made a lot more money than me, trust me, 2:27:46.480 --> 2:27:50.000 just just anybody. But the thing is, I'm doing people 2:27:50.080 --> 2:27:53.560 to follow you. People will follow that that format. So 2:27:53.680 --> 2:27:56.760 the thing is to make your artist, to make your 2:27:56.879 --> 2:28:01.000 artists those next guys. So now to you be cup Rockefella. 2:28:01.879 --> 2:28:05.440 But that's like, that's the the the crazy thing to 2:28:05.520 --> 2:28:07.920 bounce that I'm dealing with is like number one, I 2:28:07.959 --> 2:28:09.640 don't want to be too early trying to like do 2:28:09.760 --> 2:28:14.200 that because you're ready. I want to like not that 2:28:14.280 --> 2:28:16.959 you're already too early. You're already early. You're already I'm 2:28:16.959 --> 2:28:18.920 just get already to new techno. I never was of 2:28:19.040 --> 2:28:22.480 our generation that's fucking you're already. You're already. I just 2:28:22.560 --> 2:28:23.920 don't want to, like I want to make sure that 2:28:24.520 --> 2:28:28.119 I got like I got me covered, and I'm kind 2:28:28.160 --> 2:28:30.520 of like they're like I'm talking like when I'm thirty six, 2:28:31.200 --> 2:28:34.160 when I'm thirty for sure thirty five, But like I'm 2:28:34.200 --> 2:28:36.520 not gonna do that to you as an artist, Like 2:28:36.560 --> 2:28:39.320 I'm not about to split time. I didn't you feel 2:28:39.360 --> 2:28:41.320 me Like, I'm not about to tell you you'll want 2:28:41.360 --> 2:28:43.240 to sign you. Like There's been a lot of artists 2:28:43.280 --> 2:28:46.560 that I fust with early on and I helped, but 2:28:47.040 --> 2:28:49.080 I don't want anything from it. That's not why I 2:28:49.200 --> 2:28:50.840 was doing it. It was for the game once getting 2:28:50.840 --> 2:28:53.440 at the point. So when I'm thirty thirty five, yeah, 2:28:53.560 --> 2:28:56.879 maybe I'll be like, you know what, yo, pull up? 2:28:56.959 --> 2:28:58.880 I got like we'll make a whole album whatever it is. 2:28:58.959 --> 2:29:01.480 But that just not That's not why I'm not right now. 2:29:01.680 --> 2:29:03.520 But I'm with this because I know you wanted to 2:29:04.200 --> 2:29:06.560 album for Ross. I know you wanted to do with 2:29:06.640 --> 2:29:11.120 the albums fucking album which would be phenomenal. I kept 2:29:11.160 --> 2:29:13.320 listening to your beat, and I kept listening to Wolf's 2:29:13.480 --> 2:29:17.560 cadences and all that, but the thing is in hip hop. 2:29:18.040 --> 2:29:21.680 We don't owe nobody nothing, but we owe somebody everything. Yeah, 2:29:22.000 --> 2:29:24.640 we like you owe me nothing, I owe you nothing, 2:29:24.760 --> 2:29:28.400 but we owe each other everything. Isn't that that's what 2:29:28.840 --> 2:29:31.600 That's what fox me up. That's what. That's what fox 2:29:31.680 --> 2:29:34.720 me up. Like I can't charge I can't charge none 2:29:34.760 --> 2:29:36.840 of these old niggs that be asked me for verses 2:29:36.920 --> 2:29:44.920 right now, like I've never charged. I just I've never 2:29:45.040 --> 2:29:48.920 charged anyone. I never charged and I never would. You 2:29:49.000 --> 2:29:51.280 know why, because but now to drink, chance to work 2:29:51.320 --> 2:29:53.200 I got, I'm free. You know what it is for 2:29:53.360 --> 2:29:55.560 anybody who would catch me. You know what it is? 2:29:56.760 --> 2:29:59.680 That is that I've never charged anyone for a verse, 2:30:00.000 --> 2:30:03.960 and I never would because my perspective is that if 2:30:04.000 --> 2:30:05.760 I feel like I gotta charge you for a verse, 2:30:06.160 --> 2:30:09.520 I shouldn't be doing the first mm you know. So 2:30:09.800 --> 2:30:12.640 I only do verses for people that like I folk with. 2:30:12.760 --> 2:30:15.160 I know I'm gonna sound along it like it represents 2:30:15.240 --> 2:30:18.560 myself correctly sonically an artist wise like, and I'll do it. 2:30:18.600 --> 2:30:21.760 I don't give it like, but that's the financial freedom 2:30:21.800 --> 2:30:23.720 of having a tune core that pays out every week, 2:30:23.879 --> 2:30:26.840 like I've been able to turn down good bags because 2:30:26.879 --> 2:30:30.080 they were bad looks. But when you're broke a good bag, 2:30:30.200 --> 2:30:33.800 is it good? Look? You feel me? That was hard 2:30:34.000 --> 2:30:42.960 community for that, But that's beautiful. That's beautiful right things 2:30:43.080 --> 2:30:46.080 right there, because Fat Joe told me that one time. 2:30:46.200 --> 2:30:50.840 Fat Joe said, I'm looking at Fat Joe. He said, 2:30:51.320 --> 2:30:54.280 damn Nori, And I said, what's up is that everybody 2:30:54.360 --> 2:30:57.080 gave me so many free verses. I can't even charge 2:30:57.200 --> 2:31:02.680 anybody ever. Yeah, And I was like, fun, why did 2:31:02.760 --> 2:31:05.200 you tell me that? Because what you're doing like that, 2:31:05.360 --> 2:31:11.800 you like, it's it's fucking That's what it's about, though, 2:31:12.480 --> 2:31:14.240 It's about doing ships to the love of the game. 2:31:14.280 --> 2:31:16.640 And I feel like I feel like when you when 2:31:16.680 --> 2:31:20.640 you detached from expecting something like put like this because 2:31:20.640 --> 2:31:23.360 you get like two the show. That's what I'm hearing 2:31:24.160 --> 2:31:28.200 something like that, because he said his record and being 2:31:28.240 --> 2:31:34.200 honest put it like this, right. If you if people 2:31:34.280 --> 2:31:36.560 only pull up on you, if there's a check involved, 2:31:37.080 --> 2:31:38.600 it just lets you know how they feel about you. 2:31:39.480 --> 2:31:45.600 You are not you. You are a check so movement. Yeah, 2:31:45.680 --> 2:31:48.600 you're like, you're no different data prostitute. You're just a 2:31:48.720 --> 2:31:53.119 sonic prostitute. I'm using you for the beat, because when 2:31:53.160 --> 2:31:55.360 you you pull up with a bitch, yo, what's the 2:31:55.400 --> 2:31:58.360 pussy at that you pull up with with the producer 2:31:58.600 --> 2:32:01.640 who you're only like because he is fift the ways 2:32:01.680 --> 2:32:05.640 to be that same ship like pop it open, pause, 2:32:05.760 --> 2:32:07.480 But that's what it is, you know what I mean. 2:32:07.600 --> 2:32:10.480 So that's never going to be the realist chemistry. You're 2:32:10.480 --> 2:32:12.200 never going to get the best type of music. So 2:32:12.840 --> 2:32:16.160 I just feel like my career and everything is based 2:32:16.240 --> 2:32:18.680 off of me playing for the love of the game, 2:32:19.280 --> 2:32:21.480 me playing because I like to make music so much 2:32:21.520 --> 2:32:22.920 to the fact that I think I can do it, 2:32:23.560 --> 2:32:26.520 and so I do it. So you don't mean yeah, 2:32:26.600 --> 2:32:30.880 but I did at first. At first, I did everybody 2:32:30.959 --> 2:32:32.680 can't be a producer rap because a lot of these 2:32:32.760 --> 2:32:35.400 niggas is trashed out here. But no, no, they are not. 2:32:35.640 --> 2:32:37.920 Yeah they are, but you know what I actually could 2:32:37.959 --> 2:32:45.720 be hold on But like hold one, you see, you 2:32:45.800 --> 2:32:49.480 see what you see, what's sucked up, And I agree, 2:32:50.000 --> 2:32:54.800 But at the same time I disagree, not because I disagree, 2:32:54.800 --> 2:32:57.560 because the reality is that that you know, you're not 2:32:57.760 --> 2:33:00.160 ill or you're not fired, you don't have talent. That's 2:33:00.200 --> 2:33:04.160 too much of a locked into the present day. Definitive moment. Statement, 2:33:04.800 --> 2:33:06.879 you think that tomorrow doesn't exist? What if I'm better 2:33:06.920 --> 2:33:08.800 by tomorrow all of a sudden, You're a statement doesn't 2:33:08.840 --> 2:33:11.040 make any sense because if someone told me that I 2:33:11.240 --> 2:33:14.040 was shipped at making beats at fourteen, and I believe, 2:33:14.200 --> 2:33:19.440 and I even I internalize their opinion to God, make 2:33:19.520 --> 2:33:24.760 a noise, I'll because the world camera's left. You got 2:33:24.879 --> 2:33:26.760 to get a picture and you can hang out with us. 2:33:27.760 --> 2:33:32.959 I'm like getting into my show. If I can't keep talking, 2:33:33.080 --> 2:33:39.800 I want to keep talking about seventeen pisces pictures we 2:33:39.840 --> 2:33:44.240 can read. Yo. Man, let me tell you something. Your 2:33:44.280 --> 2:33:53.640 spirit is so fucking oh man yea