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Speaker 1: And Drink Chess, Motherfucking Podcast. Mason, He's a legendary Queen's rapper.

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Speaker 1: He's agree it's your boy in R. He's a Miami

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Speaker 1: hippoper pioneer. One up is d j e FN. Together

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Speaker 1: they drinking up with some of the biggest players in

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Speaker 1: the most professional unprofessional podcast and yet number one source

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Speaker 1: for drunk back drin Chess motherfuck is New Year's e

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Speaker 1: time for drink Champs, trick up for the would it

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Speaker 1: could be Hopeully wouldn't sim me? This is your boy

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Speaker 1: and o R. What up is d J e F

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Speaker 1: And this is Drink Chess Motherfucker? Yea am Now Now,

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Speaker 1: this is one of the most remarkable, amazing stories in

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Speaker 1: the hip hop when the person comes and says fuck y'all,

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Speaker 1: even out of even out of it's because the people

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Speaker 1: ain't sucking with him, and he says fuck y'all and says,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it my way, and I'm I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be my own engineer, I'm gonna be my own fucking producer,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna write my own raps, I'm gonna do my

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Speaker 1: own hooks, And he actually goes out there and he

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Speaker 1: works and then he turns around and say fuck y'all

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Speaker 1: because it worked, and he has flat them singles and

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Speaker 1: gold records. And the thing is, so many people want to, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, call them my arrogant person or cocky person.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is when you have the accolades or

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Speaker 1: the things to back it up, sometimes it's just being

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Speaker 1: facts sometimes speaking. So if you people don't understand, I

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Speaker 1: don't understand Independent Ground, don't understand who we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about one other than Russ made some other. Now,

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Speaker 1: I was very interested in your story from the beginning

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Speaker 1: because of your relentless uh work ethic. Now, I went

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Speaker 1: a Google and they said that you were starting out

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine. When we started messing with

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Speaker 1: the music, it was it was like, oh six, I

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Speaker 1: was like fourteen, freshman in high school, just making Beast

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Speaker 1: got me. Before that, I was I was five seven,

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Speaker 1: whatever the funk. I was listening to fifty and Eminem

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Speaker 1: and like writing. I remember writing raps from the perspective

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Speaker 1: that I was from Queens just because like, so you're

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Speaker 1: I was living in North Carolina. So we moved around,

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Speaker 1: moving around. Yeah, so we moved around, But um, I

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Speaker 1: just always feel like I knew who I was before

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Speaker 1: else is a seven year old standing on his mental

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Speaker 1: piece performing rap seats writing from the perspective of like

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Speaker 1: queens if for no other reason than like I think

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Speaker 1: he just really function that ship, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Because that's like the first time that was starting fire.

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Speaker 1: Like it's like, why else do you do ship when

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Speaker 1: your seven other than for the genuine love of the ship.

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Speaker 1: So it was kind of always in my life. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: four teens when I started like making beasts, so what

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Speaker 1: are the wait, wait, what are the artists you're saying

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Speaker 1: it was it was just g unit heavy. Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: like Dre's why I started even getting like interested in production,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know what it was though?

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Speaker 1: Two was my parents always had like music and speakers

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Speaker 1: and everything. My my dad was very musical. His father

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Speaker 1: So like, there was always a musical family. Uh, my mom,

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Speaker 1: So your father's father was in the music. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: he played. He played guitar for like eighty years. That's

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Speaker 1: what That's what my part me. But that's my grandfather

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Speaker 1: said to me every time you see me, you know

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Speaker 1: he says, like my dick, like my grandfather before you.

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Speaker 1: Not so my dad's dad was like just very artistic.

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Speaker 1: And then my mom's grandma played the organ for mafia

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Speaker 1: weddings and ship like that. All right, there was always

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Speaker 1: people who provided a look at to their best body liquors.

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Speaker 1: a kool aid too much. But most liquors you ordered

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Speaker 1: with the drink Champs order you could drink with us.

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Speaker 1: So listen, do you come from my era? I didn't

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Speaker 1: even I don't want to cut you off, but to

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Speaker 1: because people don't understand that. Yeah, because fifty eminem actually

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Speaker 1: drink champ. I appreciate you, but I appreciate you even

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Speaker 1: having that perspective. But it's also in thinkative of how

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Speaker 1: I choose to pick up myself, it's a problem. But

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Speaker 1: be confident till you tell me I can be confident

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Speaker 1: that it's okay. One of my favorite moments is we

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Speaker 1: come from an era of trolling. Right now, whether you

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Speaker 1: with the T shirt. Now where was this at? Just

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Speaker 1: what okay? D And how long ago was this? September?

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Speaker 1: It Down Festival. Yes, your backstage, all the artists kind

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Speaker 1: the backlash to that picture? And they thought they thought

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Speaker 1: know it's a disease. I said, no, I know, it's

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Speaker 1: the and the reality is that, um, what it goes

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00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: to shows that numbers don't reflect impact. That's why I

424
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: said that when I treated it whenever, But because Nincy

425
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: didn't have the top ten hits or whatever, but look

426
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 1: at the impact. Why because he was saying same ship,

427
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: Because you know what, it's one of these fucking little

428
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: Instagram entertainer as rappers who just the whole ship is

429
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: just gimmicks of lean this and I'm making songs about

430
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: my chains. It's like it sounds funked up. But if

431
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: y'all died, what are you leaving behind for the world?

432
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: Not ship? What did you like, when we listen to you,

433
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 1: what do we want to go do? Most of y'all

434
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: have fans who, after they listen to you, want to

435
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: go just do some funk shit. Go pop with this,

436
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: Go do Nipsey. Have people wanted to go start businesses,

437
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: influence their community ownership, Like you know what I'm saying

438
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: without having the top ten songs. So that's how you

439
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: know it's not about that. It's about what the funk

440
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: y'all are talking about. That's why I always be saying

441
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: like y'all can do all the drug marketing tools and

442
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: do all the gimmicks, but that ship will not last

443
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: because it's simply has no lasting effect on life. You

444
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: can't apply it to you. You can't apply some of

445
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: these people's songs to your longevity of your life. What

446
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Nipsey left behind gems that I'm gonna be

447
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: using when I'm ninety. You know what I'm saying, Like

448
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: he left like I was a not a big reader,

449
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: but what I did read was really impactful self help books.

450
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: It was Napoleon Hills and Deepox. Yeah, so it was

451
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: that type of ship I felt like when I Alchemist, Yeah,

452
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: for sure, for for agreements, the secret all that ship.

453
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: So when I first heard Nipsey, that's I felt like

454
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: I was getting another self help book, you know what

455
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And so I don't And I feel like

456
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: that's the whether or not that's what your agenda should

457
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: be as an artist. That's what I gravitate towards and

458
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: I feel like that's what That's what leaving the world

459
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: off is a better place is about. Because Nipsey left

460
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: the world off. The world is a better place because

461
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: of Nipsey. Like Nipsey didn't come into the world and

462
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: make it worse. Some of these artists are literally coming

463
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: in and poisoning the youth. They're poisoning the culture. They're

464
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: doing all these things, and it's like it's insane to me.

465
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: But once again, no one has balls. Everyone is scared.

466
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: Everyone wants to be buddy buddy, so no wants to

467
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: say so that's fine. I'll be the one to say something.

468
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: Y'all can do whatever you want. But it's too late.

469
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: Already got my fans. Is too late. Then you post

470
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: card from the Fords of the Staples too late. I

471
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: know you don't. I know you probably wouldn't want to

472
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 1: bring this up, but I just feel like it's it's

473
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: funked up the way ship went down. But we were

474
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: supposed to have we're not supposed to. But Nipsey could

475
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: have potentially been on drink Chat the same day. We

476
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: had bird Man the same day. So when we started

477
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: the interview with bird Man, what happened was because I

478
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 1: got notes for you too right here. But I want

479
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: to do I want to be as naturalist possible at first,

480
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: so I leave my phone away. Sure, so as I

481
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: left my phone a where he was hitting me, but

482
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: I had it on silom because you know what I mean.

483
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: So we're supposed to do him pause pause, have him

484
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: the same day like he was. That's the one thing

485
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: I respected about two. He was one of the people

486
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: that that actually showed love to the elder generator, you know,

487
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: because sometimes I look at the young kids and they're like, man,

488
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: suck them old dudes, And I can't knock them because

489
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: I remember me being younger saying fuck them old dudes.

490
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: So I don't complain. So you know, I don't believe

491
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: that about you. You never really because you might have

492
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: said that in the hood, telling you I said it. No, No,

493
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm raised with a lot more respect you might have

494
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: in the hood. Everyone him. No, no, But there's a

495
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: couple of artists that I met with legends, and I

496
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: was like, some of those guys the legends. But so

497
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: my natural reaction is always to be like, when a

498
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: new guy comes out and he's the ship for you know,

499
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: two weeks, I don't say what's up to him? I don't.

500
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: I just let him back because I see so many

501
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: people come and go that I just sit back and

502
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: I get cocky on me. I let you be cocky.

503
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,239
Speaker 1: I don't. I let it all go. But that's one

504
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: of the things that I like about you, Like the

505
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: way you give it up to Scott's story, the way

506
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: Nipsey gave it up for us. You know what I'm saying,

507
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: The way even if you even coming out here, that's

508
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: showing the initiative that because there's some hip hop ship,

509
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: don't mean supposed to know about drinking chance unless you

510
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: But like I told you all, like the first second

511
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: I saw this come out, Like when y'all launched this,

512
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the greatest idea. It's because

513
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: it's because the basis of it is natural, because that's

514
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: this is really what like the cameras and anything like,

515
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: this is what we would actually do to people are like, yea,

516
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: you know what we want to canct We want to

517
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: link what will be doing drinking, smoking, talking? Ship? Fine,

518
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: put the cameras on what you're gonna get the same ship?

519
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: You feel me? And that's what I prided myself on too,

520
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: is just authenticity. Like my mom will tell you, my

521
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: friends will tell you. The girls i'd be fu will

522
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: tell you this is what it is, said the girls.

523
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he knocks it down, That's who serious. I

524
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: was so proud of that man, so proud. Let me

525
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: tell you to tell you something. I am proud one

526
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: thing that people can't hate on you. And the thing is, um,

527
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: the thing is you you. This is a crazy ship.

528
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: You said something, but I said it on my record.

529
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: I said it on my record. I said, we gassed

530
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: these artists to be these artists. And when these artists

531
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: start acting like the artists, you say, and you said that, yeah,

532
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 1: I said it on my record. Big change. But I'm

533
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: I'm re charging you and I'm like this motherfucker he

534
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: understands it. The thing is, it's just like being a DJ, right,

535
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: Just like being a DJ right, they'll tell you you're

536
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: the closing DJ, so it's naturally for you to be

537
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: mad at the opening in DJ playing all the records

538
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: that you're gonna play, so they gass you your DJE.

539
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: And then when you start acting like the DJ, they

540
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: critique and saying, oh, he's Holly, he's Hollywood. What's insane.

541
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: It's almost like for an analogy, it's like it's like

542
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: a fan looking at you on the come up and

543
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: they're like, man, I can't wait to get on you.

544
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: Get out of all the things he's wrapping up. You

545
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: start rocking those. You don't gotta rock those? What are

546
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: you talking about? That's why I said, in a FLEXTIONI style, Uh,

547
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: either love me? What do I say? You love me?

548
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: I hate your supporter? Either you either love to me.

549
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: You either love to see me shine or you don't.

550
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: No kind of sort of you know sometimes supporter. But

551
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: it's like you can't just be like, oh my love

552
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: is conditional. I want to see you, but only under

553
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: these conditions. Don't shine on me. Don't shine on me.

554
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: But you know what happens with insecure people, You're shining

555
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: regardless shines on them because they just feel like anyone

556
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: shining is sucking up my shine. It's like, no, you

557
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: insecure a piece of ship. Go yell at your fucking mirror.

558
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: It's have nothing to do with me another drink, God

559
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: damn it. But there's definitely a culture of fans that

560
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: they just your fans on the come up, and then

561
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: they that fans because they didn't really want you like that.

562
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: They wanted this part of you the second and went here,

563
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: I gotta go find someone new too. It's like new pussy.

564
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna tell you, I'm

565
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: gonna that's how let me looking at you. It's voters

566
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: like the consumer. A lot of the consumers are volts

567
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: and hyenas. They just pounce down on you when it's

568
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: like convenient, like eat you up. The second they've done

569
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: feasting on you and there's some other new ship going

570
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: on over here to the right, they're like cool, And

571
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: why it fox up artists because artists be thinking that

572
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: that love is real, right, so they put out something.

573
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: They put out a song, a blue face or want

574
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: any one of these people who have a song going

575
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: crazy again. All this love is going nuts. A couple

576
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: of months going nuts and so the artists like, man,

577
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: this is I'm lit right. They don't realize though, that

578
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: in three months there will be some other person with

579
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: another song that the vulture is ak the consumer world

580
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: just the look up and be like and start feasting

581
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: on these people, and then your left just fucking hung

582
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: out to dry, like damn, I got nothing in me left,

583
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: And now I didn't set my career up because I

584
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: thought that this was the moment. I thought this moment

585
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: would last forever. And it's like but but there's also

586
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: the snobby fan. The snobby fan is the one that

587
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: I like this guy on the come up because nobody

588
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: knows about him. I'm on that new ship. Motherfuck. You

589
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: know like that too. I used to love Floyd Mayweather

590
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: when he was underground. Whenever you want to start like

591
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: like Floyd Mayweather, I was like, damn that everybody knows.

592
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: Let me tell you. I'm gonna tell I was explaying

593
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: this to ear fan um earlier. One of the times

594
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: I collaborated where I actually felt like we were trading fans,

595
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: because that's the thing about doing a collaboration, right, like

596
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: sometimes you know we're all due respect. Like I didn't

597
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: want to do records with certain artists because I felt

598
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: like we had the same audience anyway. Right, So so

599
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: the thing about it is I would do it either

600
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: because I have respect for the artists or have respect

601
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: for the situation, or it was a check in vols, right.

602
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: But I started to notice it would be ill like,

603
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: you know, me doing records with like a style's p

604
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: or camera, which is dope, but it's still it wasn't

605
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: really trading fans like it was all both fans coming

606
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: in your current were pleasing our current fans a great

607
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: which is always what it's about. But sometimes you want

608
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: to step out. The only two times in my career

609
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: where I actually felt like I traded fans, it was

610
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: really two times. One time, I know this is terrible

611
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: to say, but I gotta say, uh is when I

612
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: did my one and only record with jay Z on

613
00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: our Kelly record. So sorry, so I abode you should

614
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: have got that secret. But it's the only I'm actually

615
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: proud of it because the only record I ever did

616
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: with jay Z, we Ride met jay Z and camera

617
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: met jay Z and camera. But I could actually tell

618
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: you that for me doing that record, like and there

619
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: wasn't no video to it, but but you know, but

620
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: but old ladies started to want to know, yes, he

621
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: has a different crowd. This is lady, you gotta relax

622
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: and that. But what I'm saying is I started to

623
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: realize that that that it brings me a different reudio.

624
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: The only other time I had got bought a different

625
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: audience is when I did though I literally like people

626
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: can judge me for what it is. I told people,

627
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the biggest genre of music. Can

628
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: you years ago? Thank you by the way, you can

629
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: clap have proof of this. They have proof for this.

630
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is that was the first time

631
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: when when I was walking through the airport, it was

632
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: old yah daddy Yankee going down the Yankee and I'm

633
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: like yeah, and it was like it was like it

634
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: was ill because like you actually got to see you

635
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: tradeing audience. That's what expanding your audience is better said expect.

636
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 1: And that's what I think this very moment is right now,

637
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, this is big for me.

638
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: That there's two other big moments for me. This is

639
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: because like I would like we were talking, I respect,

640
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: I respect people who make it. Y'all's point right, like

641
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: that we independent too, just so you know God, damnit,

642
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: we independent to God masters, the masters, you know what

643
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: I mean. But you know what else? I do everything

644
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: for the game and love of the game. I don't

645
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: really care about the points. I never did. I never

646
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: had a lot of people get rich and stop trying

647
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: because the rich and the money is the points. I

648
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: just loved the game, so I record because I love

649
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: the game. If I loved if I was only doing

650
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: this ship for the money, I would have stopped the

651
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: second that Fortress came out. Let me tell you it was.

652
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: It was clearly not for that. I paid my bills

653
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: one time for eighteen months in the Vans. One time.

654
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: It was like eighteen months. You know. My coundars suggested

655
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: it and paid my bills eighteen months in the Vans,

656
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: the most viserable time of my life. Why you like,

657
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: I gotta man, you gotta cut my A T and

658
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: T phone build off, and you gotta keep me straight.

659
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: You gotta keep me man. I when you lose your hustle,

660
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: like I lost my hustle, like realized, because that was

661
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: it was pointing. I was too content. I was so

662
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: I had everything like and it was like I had

663
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: six cars on bills paid for eighteen months. I literally

664
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: didn't know what to do. But that's my life. You know,

665
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: the track of bills is what it was. No, I

666
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: paid it eighteen months and want to track. If you

667
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: don't know that, you gotta pay. My thing is every month,

668
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: I gotta feel like I gotta make up you lost

669
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: when you when you lose that quota, you lose your hustle.

670
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: You don't realize let let me add see. But that

671
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: to me, that's point driven. My quota is my own

672
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: personal satisfaction. Like I need to feel like my jump

673
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: shot just improved every month. Like the money I know

674
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: is Anteller, that's right, whatever, But I understand that hustle too.

675
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: But then it's like to me like I'll never stop

676
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: because I'm never content with the level. I always think

677
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: my overall can go up. If I get to overall,

678
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: be like yeah, but I eventually, if I just go

679
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: hard on the studio, I'll be a hundred. That's will

680
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: keeps me going and you're still doing everything recording. I

681
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 1: still like now I have I've been working with other producers,

682
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: but yeah, know when it's like the studios in my house,

683
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: I didn't build it in my house. So I still

684
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: walk down said blue Frame. That was a wild night.

685
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: That was a wild Now you know who blue Frame is, right,

686
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: strip Atlanta's the best strip flem in Atlanta. I mean,

687
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: I know Magic City. I'm no Magic City to for Buflame.

688
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: You know what Magic City? Sometimes they'll be acting like

689
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: it's for the terrorists, like sometimes you know, I went

690
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: back and I'm not talking about the nineties Magic City.

691
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: Don't get It's like it's like Magic City was not

692
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: for the tourists. Well no, no, no, no, I'm saying

693
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: now like blue Flame is like more like you see

694
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: killing Mike there like that in the daytime by himself

695
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: with a midgic like for real. I don't know why

696
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: I said that. I don't know what. Let that ride

697
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: with the doorf is the correct world dof little people,

698
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: little people like yeah people, Okay, I'm not getting because

699
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get canceled because the Dwarf. I have no idea.

700
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: What's your calls. I'm not saying anything though. You You

701
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: was like I was hating out with comic the other day,

702
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: right and j I don't know, now you hang out

703
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: with him? Just you gotta get over it. I'm just like,

704
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't drink that. Did you guys figure that I

705
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: didn't ask, but he asked, But he said to me,

706
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: he said, to me, I asked my question. He said,

707
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: I'm the king. Uh, you know, avoiding controversy. Oh, that's

708
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: why he's not coming on. Drink. Just don't listen. It's

709
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: about drink chance. But he said, I'm the kid on

710
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: contrary contrary to the way, he said, you're almost like

711
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: the exact opposite. For sure, I'll tell you, you know,

712
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: he said he's the king. He said, he's the king

713
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: of a boarding like I'll welcome it because if if

714
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: when the dust settles, the truth still remains, which it

715
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: always does when I'm down and I got I got

716
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: my fans, so I have confidence and I find solace

717
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 1: and faith in that, like y'all can't do. Y'all can't

718
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: take that away from me. Whatever happens, it's pulling on

719
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: the drink. He said that four times. Come on and

720
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: then talk him on. That's good, he's into the interview.

721
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: You say that into the interview, what I do. I

722
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: really want to make that point for the for everyone watching,

723
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: like it's really about the game and not the points

724
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: like I feel like this NBA players who will play

725
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 1: for free, those wants to get rings, like I feel

726
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: like Kobe would have played for free and now the

727
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: money is they still got to You have to win

728
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: in order to leave. People don't want to lead a

729
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: follow up person, right, bro, I don't even have But

730
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: you think you all in love with the game. I

731
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: don't feel like you saw us as an example. Yeah,

732
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: we did this for eight months, not a child, nine months,

733
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: nine months? Big want to check and what we knew,

734
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: we knew, we knew what we need, then we knew

735
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: what we loved, what we were doing. What I'm saying,

736
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: that's look, that's beyond everything. That's what matters. What I'm saying.

737
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: You're right, well, that's why I like, that's why instantly

738
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: down for this, not because of the points, not as

739
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: anyone around me did. I Karen symbol too, Shoutoutli was

740
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: a superhero. She's a superwoman with woman, any woman, she's

741
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: a superhero for real. What the reason why I did this?

742
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: Like I said, you can ask her, you guys, ask

743
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: anyone around me. I never once said, well how many views?

744
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: Is that? It wasn't about the point. It was about, Nah,

745
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: I love the game of the ship and I love

746
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: to play and I love I love ship that I

747
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: just funk with. So if I just sunk with it,

748
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: I do it, no question. I've been fuck with me. Also,

749
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't about, oh, well, can you tell me to

750
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: reach one type of promote? I don't give a fuck.

751
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: It's not like one or two fans. But it's like

752
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter you feel me because like I just

753
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: feel like when you love the game, if I love

754
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: to go to the gym and work on my jump

755
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: shot for the sake of loving my jump shot. This

756
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: is why I say Steph Curry's sucking. People love Steph

757
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: Curry's dad was in the NBA. So Steph Curry is

758
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: so good at basketball not because he needed to make money.

759
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: He's so good at basketball because he really just actually

760
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: knows basketball. He wants to overprove himself. Let me just

761
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: get in the game, not the point. So look, and

762
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: it's the patient. I'm sorry for this shot, brother, So

763
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: this is about this research. Listen, you know, please in

764
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: our show, we celebrate your motherfucking life while you're here.

765
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: We don't want you to go away and be like

766
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: this motherfucker saw the Staples Center and we didn't tell him.

767
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: How proud of to your motherfucking face, we are proud

768
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: of you, brother. We see you come people. Let's come

769
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: in this motherfucking game, stop this ship out and we

770
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: respect you and we got your motherfucking back. So I

771
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: lout to each other, it's not that bad because he drink,

772
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: he drinks away, he wants more, he wants more later. Yeah,

773
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: kind of like second another one, but keeping but get

774
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: him the same amount you gave me, bro, just keeping

775
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: eating this time. I'm out at that. So it's crazy.

776
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: When we first met each other, I was the big guy,

777
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: never drinking and then I hate now I hate hate,

778
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: but he drinks dezotic bears. He drinks this, and he'd

779
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: be drinking kinda kinda kinda let's be honest kindikin and

780
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: cords like everything I've been bringing. Were you from New

781
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: York City? Like Stella was desotic? Bro, that's you're all

782
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: that Stella they come with the orange thing on it.

783
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: That's my mother, listen, I mean from New York City? Yeah,

784
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: god mother, kind of kid buddy wins and cords like, yeah,

785
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: I ever tell you you know what I got was

786
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: like story with big pun Big story. Big Punt used

787
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: to make everybody walk in his session, drink a Holese

788
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: Cords light and then a fucking hens. Yeah, but this

789
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: was horrible because this it was just it was an

790
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: engineer guy. He walks in you can tell us engineer

791
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: and scared the death because punish, you know, and he

792
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: got a gun on his waist. He's like, it's kind

793
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: of crazy guy, but he's so funny that you you

794
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: forget that he's crazy, so so funny goes to the guy. Um,

795
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, everybody got to do it. So he makes

796
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: you ll drink a cause like most horrible thing in

797
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 1: the world. You gotta piss me a bottle, no camp,

798
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: the whole joint, the whole joint, and you take a

799
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: shot of Hennessey and then he just let you go.

800
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: That's terrible. And then got intro. I mean, if you

801
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: think about it, to the head, to the head together,

802
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: to the head engineer. I feel so sorry for the

803
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: engineer because the engineers looking at it. He had to

804
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: do it to everybody had to do. He me like,

805
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: nor drink at all, and I'm like, I'm not paying

806
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: you haven't years, I can't do the shot. I can't

807
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: front he had like that recovering. I'm just saying, there

808
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: was wonderful stories. I got onto Medelo's by this Venezuelan chicken.

809
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 1: Brooklyn was this restaurant soundstic she was, she was okay

810
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: venezuellow because there was this shout out to kids. Super

811
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: One of my homies has his own clothing grand company,

812
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: whole thing in Williamsburg, and I was. I would go

813
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: up there for months on end and make a lot

814
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: of songs and whatever. He had a studio in the

815
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: basement and I would sleep on the couch. There's no windows,

816
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: you know. I talking about that grind baby, Yeah, like

817
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: it was. There was a Chinese spot around the corner

818
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: that I would just get food from for five dollars,

819
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: like twice a day, and then someone spot me on

820
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: the deli sandwich. There was this restaurant across the street

821
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: called Mexico to dollars that had all these Venezuelan girls.

822
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: They were definitely on the pain, which I than with Venezuela. Yeah,

823
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: so this is why I chucked up. So it was

824
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: Mexico two thousand, y'all underpaying the Venezuelan girls, you know,

825
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 1: we know. No, that was a restaurant reshap bang crazy

826
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: waitresses though done bad. So like there was a fleet

827
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: offul so there was like six of us across the

828
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: street where like, well I just high, like you know

829
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: what I mean. So there was there was one girl

830
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: who put me onto Modela's and also taught me just

831
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: like the only thing I need to know in Spanish,

832
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: which is taught you to will you marry them? I

833
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: have used that information take care of this guy side

834
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: of com me. That's all my Spanish women, not that

835
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: you feel me. Shout out to the I swear you Spanish,

836
00:44:47,800 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: honestly somewhere possibly again time my career. Yeah, you really

837
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: go right into another conversation. It's boosting me up. Come on.

838
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: It gave a throw down because it was a time

839
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: in my career I just got off a major. Yeah,

840
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: I did another independent thing and I didn't like it.

841
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: And my only route mhmm was to keep continuing with

842
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: my fans was tune core. Wow, I love this. Yeah,

843
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't even know this tune call. But I made

844
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: no money on two cords what years? This This was

845
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: just like it's just it's like for your queens, get

846
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: the money I think this was like you didn't let

847
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: your finger involved. No. No, What it is is, my

848
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: point of bringing that up is having your music on

849
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: tune Core. It's equivalent to be independent to having your

850
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: music and costcos having a product in costcos. What I

851
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: mean by that is having your product and costcos is

852
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: a big fucking deal. But people didn't. But people still

853
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: have to buy it, people still have to see it,

854
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: people who staid. So that's the part that I didn't get.

855
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: I have threw out a couple of records before Empire,

856
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: years before Empire. Yes, so I threw out the records

857
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: expecting people to just because I'm Nori, I'm a platinum artist.

858
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: I have went platinum before. I wouldn't go before. I

859
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: didn't promote it. I didn't understand that. No marketing, no promotion,

860
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: no marketing, distribution, not even just yea just to but

861
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: we didn't have it wasn't Spotify back then, just I

862
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: wounds and SoundCloud wasn't even Yeah, we're gonna talk about

863
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: sound clouds. He's a kick of SoundCloud, but I haven't.

864
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: So what I'm trying to say is people don't understand

865
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: how hard it is because tone call anybody you're all

866
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: on the same level. Well, t cores chapter two. That's

867
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: the thing. Two cores Chapter two. Chapter one is understanding

868
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: how to market your own product, which is like because,

869
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: like you said, tone cords are like having your shi

870
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: scored like Chae. Really it's like having your ship in

871
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: Costco in every city and every town everywhere in the world.

872
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: That's what it's really like. But nobody knows nobody, right,

873
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: So then you gotta learn kind of what works, which

874
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 1: is what took me a long time too. I could

875
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: put in my tune Core right now is making twenty

876
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: cents thirty cents a dolly. It wasn't like second like

877
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: what much I was a millionaire. It was five four

878
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: or five years of max quarters. Well, I was putting,

879
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: so this is what I was doing it. First I

880
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: put out eleven projects, all self produced, everything right, not

881
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: on SoundCloud. This is when like it was, it was

882
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: fucking like media fire, just these random no SoundCloud, file

883
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 1: sharing ship yeah, Apple, yeah, file sharing ship. Apple music

884
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: was not out, uh like you send the type ship

885
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: you know, like yeah, literally that's the ship. But I

886
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: would put it on tune Core and they would distribute

887
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: it to the DSPs that were available, but I would

888
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: never promote those links because my goal to get heard,

889
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: not get bought. I wanted to get heard, so I

890
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: would never promote It was there if you want it

891
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: and you stumble on it, God bless you, feel me.

892
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: But that was not it. Uh So that was to

893
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, I've done eleven projects and I

894
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 1: still have a thousand followers, so I need to switch

895
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: some up. Most people will quit. I was like, no,

896
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: I know, I'm ill self believe I need to need

897
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: to switch it up. And I realized, like people are

898
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: not trying to hear an album from someone they don't know,

899
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: but people are always down to click on the first song.

900
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: So I was like, cool, I'm gonna drop one song

901
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: albums every week until I blow up one song album,

902
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: which is like why every song I had a different hort.

903
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: We we had that whole uh esthetic on deck. But

904
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 1: I put out a song every week for two and

905
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: a half years. So but it was like a single

906
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: every single every week on sounding Now I was using SoundCloud.

907
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: That was my main promotion. But you know then on

908
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: my social media is I would put up h a

909
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: little like selfie videos of me singing this ship or

910
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: wrapping the ship because I'm my slow you know what

911
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm gonna use my looks to my advantage.

912
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: You feel me. I know it's up. Like if y'all y,

913
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you, but I knew

914
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: what periods, So like I was like, cool, if I'm

915
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: if I'm dropping some singing ship, I might put up

916
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: itself like I'm on something by any means necessary had

917
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: a thousand followers, so like I'm trying to get on,

918
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: so I would put up these selfing videos or whatever.

919
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: I would trying to do all this, Uh, just stayed

920
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 1: so locked into the social media to try and promote.

921
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: And it didn't work on the first week, didn't work

922
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: on the second, didn't work on the twenty five. But

923
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: I made sure before I even dropped that first song

924
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: that I had twenty five songs because I always said

925
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: twenty six, because I always said I want to have

926
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: half the I want to be half a year ahead

927
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: of y'all. When you think it's the week in a

928
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: roll rush, damn, you must be slowing up. No, I've

929
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: been had twenty six. I got another twenty six. What

930
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: made what made you not give up? Because because I

931
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: thought I was so ill and I was in love

932
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: with the game, but I had to be something to

933
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: make you say, I'm gonna stick with it like that.

934
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: It's it's just it's it's that, it's that thing that's

935
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: like and I like, I'm so obsessed with it, and

936
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: I have to proving you're wrong. I had to prove

937
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: myself right. I couldn't sleep with the fact of giving

938
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: up now when I know that I could do it.

939
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: But what what taught you? Consistency though, like the idea

940
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: of because doing in this, in this that WoT you

941
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: answer him? Let me just tell you something because the

942
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 1: person from my error the reason why you guys are genius.

943
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: From your errors, you'll understood the artists to consumer, we

944
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: didn't know that my day. Um like trying of back

945
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: what you're just saying. My day we had to actually

946
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: go to a label to the find our audience. What

947
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: quality was so much better because there was gatekeepers and

948
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't so easy to just get on. So this

949
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: pros and cons of both things. Because back then, for

950
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: you to even be heard by me at seven years old,

951
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: you had to be ill. You know what I'm saying now,

952
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: it's just kind of like you can upload zhone the camera. Guys,

953
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: you might be fired, but Minnesota and anyone in New York.

954
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: But I learned from my mistakes. I learned from Yo.

955
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: I dropped eleven projects that I feel like a fired,

956
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: but they didn't do anything, and so I had to

957
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: take a step back and understand why didn't they do anything.

958
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't the wet which is the music. It was

959
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: the how it was how it was putting them out.

960
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: Because one of those songs on my eighth mixtape is Gold,

961
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: was being consumed. Yeah, how how I was delivering it?

962
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: Because you can't tell me that a song that is

963
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: now Gold, that was off my eighth of eleven mixtapes

964
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: wasn't fired. Then it was the same song. It was

965
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: just that it wasn't It didn't have the light on it.

966
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: So I had to go and figure out how to

967
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 1: garner attention. And I knew albums at that point after

968
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: eleven times that was not it, So I was like cool.

969
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: I noticed that whenever an artist dropped an album on SoundCloud,

970
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: the first song had the most place and they would

971
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: go down by that. The second song had less, third less,

972
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: and then one might stick out because it's a big feature.

973
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: But it was traditionally usually the first song I had

974
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: the most first song on the playlist whatever it is,

975
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: playlist album. Yeah, when the artists was dropping an album,

976
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: the first song had the most plays. So I learned.

977
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, cool, that just means that everyone

978
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: is down to listen to one song. So I'll just

979
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: dropped one song over and over again until it blows up.

980
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: And so you were like, fuck putting out the whole

981
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: project just its first first. Oh yeah, they're all gonna

982
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: be first all first, I'm dropping the first song on

983
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: an album every week, so that's what it was. But

984
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: I knew that I was always an album artist, so

985
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: I knew to have an album on the side because

986
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: I didn't want to blow up. Oh yeah. So the

987
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: second I decided to do that, I had an album

988
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: on the side of fourteen songs, and I had twenty

989
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: five songs I was down to put out right, So

990
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: at that point I'm playing chess. I'm super prepared because

991
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: if one of these twenty five blows up, here's the album,

992
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to miss the moment because I've

993
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: seen the artists who blow up and then scramble and

994
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: rush around and wait three years to put out. Now

995
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: they don't have ship, so I was like, let me

996
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: make sure I have an album. Is cash money is

997
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: universal calling, you know, like the only people who called

998
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: and shout out to them, and I always pick them up,

999
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 1: even if I don't sunk with the companies like that,

1000
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: but I always pick them up because they did reach out.

1001
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: It was it was Atlantic, It was Jeff Vaughn specifically

1002
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: who I think it's at APG, and it was a

1003
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: dame from from Volume and also Brian Johnson who was

1004
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: at Atlantic. But that was it, you know what I mean.

1005
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: And then you never sucked and we we kind of

1006
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: brought u up outside with strange music and technolog in them.

1007
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: So all you talk about I respected so much, But

1008
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 1: it's like I always knew that I wanted to create

1009
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: my own thing. I don't want to go be a

1010
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: part of your thing. But you knew about their things. Yeah,

1011
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: come on, we knew it was not your strategy. Reminds

1012
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: me of him, Yeah, yeah, strategy obviously you do it

1013
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: your way way. But we were talking about outside, right, Yeah,

1014
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: not like we always knew about him, you know what

1015
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying, so um, but I like I learned that,

1016
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: you know what, I need to take a step back

1017
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: and really map this out and plot. Like I said, so,

1018
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: I had the album on the side, and I had

1019
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 1: songs in the vault before I put out my first

1020
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: song on SoundCloud. Right, But what made you not want

1021
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: to go to a unit like you said? Well, because

1022
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: because I studied this ship. Bro. I watched every breakfast club,

1023
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: I watched every everything, Like I wasn't just going into

1024
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: this blind. That's why I don't feel bad for artists

1025
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 1: who get taken advantage of nineteen. There's too much information,

1026
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 1: so like you'll want to all play their victim mentality.

1027
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: It's like, nah, bro, like you're just an idiot, And

1028
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: I don't feel bad for idiots. I really don't. I'm not.

1029
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: You know what if that's if that's one of my flaws.

1030
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: I don't have compassion for stupid an so fucking it

1031
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: slow ceriously. Yeah. So it's like you've got people like

1032
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: de so apartment that here and had to deal with contracts.

1033
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: But as a different time, different times, I'm talking about

1034
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: these two year olds get taking back. It's insane. You

1035
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: can google everything that everything you need to know you

1036
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: can get you can get the information. But so I

1037
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: was doing that, and like I said, it wasn't the

1038
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: twenties song song. But when you're doing here's here's another

1039
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: thing that people overlook. Those eleven projects were me, uh

1040
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: practicing my jump shot to the point I always looking

1041
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: at it like a video game, almost like I was

1042
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: a sixty overall on that first project. That's what you

1043
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: start out when you create a player in the video.

1044
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: By the time I was even putting out songs on SoundCloud,

1045
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 1: I had mastered the craft to certainly I was eighty

1046
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: four you feel me like I was. I was formidable.

1047
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: Any song at that point could have gone right, and

1048
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: maybe it was a ninety I'm for once of you humble,

1049
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But but so every song

1050
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: at that point it was of quality to go. So

1051
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: when you're putting out a song every week that has

1052
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: the potential to be a big song, whatever, it's a

1053
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: it's a great song, and everything is like, the mixing

1054
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: is down, everything is down, the craft is mastered to

1055
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: a certain level. When you're doing that every week for

1056
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: two and a half years, it's not a matter of if,

1057
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: it's a matter of when and I need. So I

1058
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: was like, look, whenever y'all are ready to give me

1059
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: what I know I deserve, I have the album ready,

1060
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: which is why when it popped off, I had the

1061
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: album ready. You're playing the numbers game at that point.

1062
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but that's still some tough ship. Like, well,

1063
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: the only tough part about it is the mental aspect,

1064
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: because look at how much most most kid work, Yes,

1065
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: but liked because we have friends who when I say

1066
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: we need, me and Buddhist looked at each other, was like,

1067
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: I'll be sure this is working. No, yeah, so we

1068
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: have I don't think we ever felt that way to be.

1069
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: We had it twice. Also on chapter X, Y Z

1070
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: or whatever. You'll have already seen success in your own

1071
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: individual lives, so you know that success. Like if y'all

1072
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: have never been successful in your life and this was

1073
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: your first venture in your own life, do it for fun.

1074
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: We didn't do this right, but imagine imagine if this

1075
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: was your first attempt at trying to succeed in life.

1076
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: You know, you're absolutely there's way more doubt involved. But

1077
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: now we won't just always. Uh, it's a belief thing, bro,

1078
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: It's a it's a artists everything you've read, because I'm

1079
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: telling you it's amazing an artist, because the thing about

1080
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: it is right, We're starting out with you saying, we

1081
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: posted a thing on tomb care and so we're so

1082
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: so much skipping. Yeah, the grind with so much skipping.

1083
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: And I don't want these artists to think that that's

1084
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: just it. They you know, pay the to upload the record. Yeah,

1085
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: and then and then they're gonna be in everyone. Especially

1086
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: in today's day and age. Everything is instant gratification. You

1087
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: post a picture, I instantly get a DM know what

1088
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, it's instant, Like you post something, I

1089
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: instantly get a response. I do this. Everything's freshing. Everything

1090
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: in life is so instant. You can order something instantly,

1091
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: you can get it juice instantly, you can fucking bit

1092
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: just like everything is instant. Okay, dude, back, but we're

1093
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: not that bad. We haven't made that much point. You

1094
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: gotta fish in the right time. How do you continue? Okay,

1095
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: so not at all? Awkways out of my vocabulary. So

1096
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: you get everything is instant. So artists, we dealt with them.

1097
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: I was cool with them and I'm still cool with them.

1098
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: But you put out one project, it doesn't do what

1099
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: you what you think it's supposed to do, and you

1100
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: give up the problem once again. I am about solution

1101
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: and the root. The root of that is attachment to results,

1102
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: detachment results, and that's a that's a chapter in Deepox

1103
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: Show for seven Spiritual Law of Success. But detached from results. No,

1104
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: because too many people put out a song and say,

1105
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: without them realizing it, they say to themselves the energy.

1106
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: If this doesn't do a million views, I'm off this ship, okay,

1107
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: But let's speak to the people that that maybe has

1108
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: kid children or something like that has children, like and

1109
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: you know, you know, because because a lot of a

1110
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: lot of it is your baby moms saying give it up.

1111
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: Usually it's your family closest they're telling you. Man, Ronald

1112
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: McDonald and them niggas is hiring, like yeah, but like

1113
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: honestly and they honestly. I agree to say that artist

1114
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: that throw those three couple of I think you need

1115
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: to where you are in life. But I also agree,

1116
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: I don't agree with the fact that people uh absolutely

1117
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: dismissed and because some of these artists ain't good. No,

1118
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to work. But that's what I'm

1119
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: saying like no, like, but I don't have money, But

1120
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: I don't agree that people dismiss the reality of yeah,

1121
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: go get the job in McDonald's like, don't like. But

1122
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: society and everyone is saying that that's whack. Now you

1123
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: know what's whack being broke. You know it's wack being

1124
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: locked up for some ship you didn't have to do.

1125
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: You feel me, like, my fuck's just like put McDonald's

1126
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: as anything. That motherfucker like it is trying to make

1127
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: it happen in a in a legal way so that

1128
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: he can still fund his legal movement of music. So

1129
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: I was saying about the buying McDonalds buy, I'm hiring

1130
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: all paroles. I don't care if y'all still for me.

1131
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: It's all right now McDonald work. But yeah, we're gonna

1132
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: make it work now. But people, but people need to

1133
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: stop the meaning that uh that avenue having a job,

1134
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: having a job, having a job is don't we everybody

1135
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: could be getting hard No, no, I know, but some

1136
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: of these niggas got to stop. Yeah, but that's that's

1137
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: that's even more of my point. Since everyone can't be

1138
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: an artist, you are the last person the same McDonald's

1139
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: is beneaty exactly, so like stop stop shipping on that

1140
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: because sucks with me. Yeah, you know, but but let

1141
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: me say something to move on to the next ship.

1142
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: Let me say something. You know, it's crazy. I always

1143
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: say if the fourteen year old me came up to

1144
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: the met now, maybe not me right now because I'm

1145
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a minded but to me

1146
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: a year ago, two years ago with each other and said, yo, ago,

1147
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: you're time a year ago, three weeks ago, you're talking No.

1148
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: But so if the fourteen year old came up to

1149
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: me and was like, Yo, this is my beat, fourteen

1150
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: would trash like that's not that's not like a Kanye

1151
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: saying he's beats on Twitter. Fantasy would try no, like

1152
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: my first beat even on garage man with three instruments

1153
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: and like a sin thing playing with one finger trash.

1154
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: So they probably will pop right now, Loki, it's it

1155
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: after this, I'm playing the now. But like, if that

1156
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: kid came up to me, I checked myself, like over

1157
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: a year ago, I was like, man, to be honest,

1158
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: I would be like, I don't see how it could

1159
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: ever work with you. You are showing no signs of

1160
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: any sort of potential like this just is trash. That's

1161
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,479
Speaker 1: what I was thinking my head. My younger self taught

1162
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: my older self to never count anyone out, Like if

1163
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: you're trash right now, I believe in you because I

1164
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: know that trash can turn into but it's not that.

1165
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: But it never is. But it's always on your head.

1166
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: But you can't say your trash I believe, Yes you can,

1167
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: Yes you can't. Fun man, you believe in a lot

1168
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: of people. Yes you do. You know why? You know why?

1169
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: Yes you do? Yes you do because if that makes

1170
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: me the ship person from believing in you the light

1171
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: to everybody, no matter being politics, a matter of not

1172
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: ruling out the potential fear. What doesn't mean investing in everybody,

1173
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: say investing money, But I will invest believe in energy

1174
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: into but you know what I will, because who's to

1175
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: say no, I agree that my energy and my belief

1176
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: and your energy and your belief. Who's to say that

1177
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: that might not trickle and come down? Is some ship

1178
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to be. I'll never be in. Nay

1179
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: said no, I respect that. Sometimes you gotta say I

1180
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: respect You're not good though, right? No, No, you say

1181
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: that much to give away as I'm saying everyone, everyone

1182
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: that records me, all my homies. I wasn't letting anyone

1183
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: on the mic over my beaks because I said, you're

1184
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: not fired, so real friends right there. But so when

1185
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: you said sometimes you gotta say you're not good though. Yes,

1186
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: but that's my cousin. I got to tell him my thing, don't. Yeah,

1187
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I keep telling my phone not working,

1188
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: I got to like talk about Let me tell you though.

1189
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: If you tell one of your homies, yeah, but you're

1190
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: not good though, that's fine. Just make sure that that

1191
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: sentence doesn't have a period on the end of it.

1192
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: I'll say you're not ended. You're not good though. No, no,

1193
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: not that you're not good right now. Keep working on it.

1194
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: You might be because I always trash you feel me.

1195
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: So I can never look at someone and be like,

1196
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: you're not good right now, and you won't be good

1197
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: in ten years, Like what happened to good? That's not

1198
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: good in ten years. Get a job in McDonald's. That's

1199
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: a period on that. Honestly, Jen soaking up, write it down,

1200
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: hanging on in there now it's true because um, the

1201
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: thing about it is, I always want people to know

1202
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: that you know, being an artist is not to end

1203
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: all be all. People see that there's so many people

1204
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: that make so much money behind the scenes. And I

1205
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: had the same exact passion as the music, same as that,

1206
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: and it's so much other things that people could do

1207
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: besides being in front of the Canada. I think you

1208
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: said that on an interview. You said you admired the

1209
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: booking agents. Oh yeah, okay, I liked it that. I

1210
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: was so confused when there was people in the media

1211
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: and in the industry like why are you trying to

1212
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: make those are the people like for people? And I'm like,

1213
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 1: because you're trying to wrap up. No one's wrapping up.

1214
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: What was we got two hours? Like this is it? Chris,

1215
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: don't give me the the fucking guy like we had

1216
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: the Grammys and ship, like we had that little yourself

1217
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: you continue to talk, so what it is like when

1218
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: if you're trying to get into any field, I just

1219
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: feel like you got to educate yourself. And that guy

1220
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: was saying, especially twenty nineteen where it's all out there

1221
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: but a book and agent. Yeah, Like I did the research,

1222
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: like I watched the interviews, I did this ship, so

1223
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: I knew, like you see the artists, and you see

1224
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: the change and you see the money and the ship,

1225
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: but no one ever asked how did you get that? People?

1226
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: Was it was it by touring? Well, how did you

1227
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: get touring? That's the age? Yeah, Steve Strange, so you

1228
01:05:55,640 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: your freestyle, which was fucking that's phenomenal. Same. I was like,

1229
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna be way more nervous than

1230
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: I was, but he was so cool that it made

1231
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: me just be like, man, So you were nervous to

1232
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: meet the booking agent eminem the first time? It was

1233
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: it was boxing him in verse the five wasn't it

1234
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: might have been, wasn't. Roy was just faring with It's

1235
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: what I say, we're fighting each other. Someone got there

1236
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: that should not. It's like I looked up to the

1237
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: booking agents because I wanted to understand the mechanics of

1238
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: how everything was moving. I didn't I didn't buy into oh,

1239
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: you're just just rich because you tell me you're rich.

1240
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: I wanted to know how and why, and so I

1241
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: figured out how. And there was a lot of components

1242
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: and it was like at the time two thousand nine,

1243
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: it was really Peter Schwartz and Carroll Lewis as far

1244
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: as in my head. Um, and that's just I just

1245
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: at that's who I wanted. So when my manager was

1246
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: first reaching out, found me on SoundCloud, give me up

1247
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: via email. Know he's right there. You can tell you

1248
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:06,919
Speaker 1: guys right now, I said, Miles Milan right there. Maybe

1249
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: it's Miles. I remember telling Milan over and over again.

1250
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk about anything else you're doing.

1251
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: Get me a meeting with Carol Louis and then then

1252
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: all like, I'll take it serious because I'm never down

1253
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: and people need to understand you can't work with people

1254
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: who who can't contribute something you can contribute to yourself.

1255
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: So I was like, look, unless you can get because

1256
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't need to produce what I'm doing. I don't

1257
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: need a lot of managers are like they're putting the

1258
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: collapse together in this or I'm doing all that, so

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01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't need that. I got a different prerequisite to

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01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: fuck with me, like, I need this. So if you

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01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: can provide me this and then I'll take it serious.

1262
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: So but yeah, it's the mindset of being like, you

1263
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: know what, it's the booking agent. Why the booking agent

1264
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: is the one who put you on tours and the

1265
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: one who at the time is very smart for you

1266
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: to know that because a lot of people from my

1267
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: era never made one royalties. You only made advance money,

1268
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: and everything else was always on the road. Tom So

1269
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: just when you you knowing that with some great advance.

1270
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: So now you gotta switch the interview a little bit,

1271
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: get some one of the more shot. Let's go, baby,

1272
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 1: make it make it decent. Yes you do, Yes, you do,

1273
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: because motherfucker, because there's much you have to Absolutely, it's

1274
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: been married. It's just like Turkey did it on Thanksgiving,

1275
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 1: Turkey dinner in here. That one, that one was rough.

1276
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 1: I need some cheeseburger babies. Yeah, you know that smells

1277
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: like the fourth seasons in Tokyo. Jes season. It does,

1278
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: no loki, it's whatever, all whatever, y'all use the set,

1279
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: y'all using the fourth season in Tokyo smells like the

1280
01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 1: way this is change has that sit in his house,

1281
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 1: like when you can walk into pubs. It's a slight,

1282
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, but it doesn't smell. It's not saying

1283
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: I know what he's saying. It's like, this feels smells

1284
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: like four seasons Tokyo the day seasons. Right, I'm gonna

1285
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 1: be honest, honestly know, every time I've been in Tokyo,

1286
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: I've never been righted to the four seasons to make

1287
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: some noise of influence, and you know what I want

1288
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 1: to really also just like sidebar random ship luke this

1289
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: make it go viral um. The reality is that I

1290
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: absolutely have the most love for all these upcoming artists

1291
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,719
Speaker 1: in twenty years and one year olds, and I wish

1292
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: that I can sit in room with all of them

1293
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 1: and just give them genuine advice unsolicited. You don't have

1294
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 1: to like it, take it whatever, But I think that

1295
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: there's so much potential and so much ownership potential, and

1296
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: it's just like y'all don't understand that you can make

1297
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: ten million dollars in a year. Look a little NASA

1298
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: still own your stuff with Columbia, Oh yeah, masters, oh yeah,

1299
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 1: we just now we split the profits on it, so

1300
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 1: it's a proper split. Yeah. So it's like, that's fine,

1301
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: that's that's fair. That's that's fair. That's all my publishing,

1302
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 1: so that's that's fair. And I sell my independent catalog,

1303
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,520
Speaker 1: so that's fair. But you look like a little nasax,

1304
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: right song going crazy as well it should and the doors,

1305
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 1: he's breaking down like it's amazing. I think I hate

1306
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 1: his name, but I do, like you know, but like, yeah,

1307
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, like a lot of like, I

1308
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: try my hardest to operate beneath the surface. I don't

1309
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,879
Speaker 1: want to get caught up a like so little Nasax,

1310
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: you're like your name. I was almost the same way

1311
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: that name. But that doesn't matter. It's like what he

1312
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: what It's about the energy in the substance that it's

1313
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: moving with his dad. Oh yeah, look how we shook

1314
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: up country like funk with that. I felt with the

1315
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 1: beneath the service it. But I look at a kid

1316
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: like that and I'm like, yo, do you understand that?

1317
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: Now he's with Columbia. So Columbia might have given him

1318
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, definitely millions for sure? Is it four?

1319
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: Is the two? Is the three? I don't I don't

1320
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: know the terms. But regardless, like you could have made

1321
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: on too and cold with that same song, And this

1322
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: is not one of those situations where I needed them

1323
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: to to milk it and to make it go big.

1324
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 1: He was milking it on Twitter and made it become

1325
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: viral without Columbia, So oh yeah, he was oh yeah,

1326
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: no he even he even he even no, no, no.

1327
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: That was little nos EX utilizing social media and understanding

1328
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: how social media works Twitter, Instagram, being a twenty year

1329
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 1: old kid and manipulating that he lose Soldier Boy. Soldier

1330
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: Boy was like that, that's what I'm saying exactly. That's

1331
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 1: what you need to put respect on soldier boy. But

1332
01:11:55,800 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 1: that's that's but so Little nos X It's like, bro, like,

1333
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: you should have kept that one for yourself at least

1334
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 1: for eight months. So that guess what, Because the way

1335
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 1: tune core and everything works, it's a two month delay. Right.

1336
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: So let's say Little NASA blows a song in January, right,

1337
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: and it goes nuts, and now we'reing, what what what

1338
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 1: month is? Maybe April whatever, so May, let's say by May,

1339
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 1: labels are like, yo, we we gotta sign you. Little

1340
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: ns as could then say he has some leverage because

1341
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: he's like, listen, I know what I'm doing on my own,

1342
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 1: so you have to put up X amount. Right, That's

1343
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 1: how I did my deal. Like I had a tune

1344
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 1: Core so and I was making hundreds of times. I

1345
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: was making a hundred k right a month. Let's call

1346
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,600
Speaker 1: it roughly a month, So I'm not taking this is

1347
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,759
Speaker 1: this is like no Label, no like me my basement,

1348
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: right and it pays out every Friday. So when Label

1349
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: started talking to me like, I'm not taking your usual

1350
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 1: six hundred k advance with some royalty rate deal, like

1351
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: because I have belief in this and I know that

1352
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 1: if I'm making a hundred camees July, by december's one

1353
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: seventy and by December seventeen is to seventy and so

1354
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: on and so forth. Right, So I look at these

1355
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: people like little Nazacs and it's like, man, it's dope.

1356
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're winning, but I'm very sad that

1357
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: you're not winning. They're winning. Columbia too earlier because because

1358
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: because the war, do you understand that he could have

1359
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 1: signed as much, and also had you could, you know

1360
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: what I would have done if I was in I

1361
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: would have dropped the old town roll ship. It would

1362
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: have gone nuts, which it did without Columbia. And I'm

1363
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,560
Speaker 1: with Columbia, but they know what's up. We all know

1364
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: what's something. Let's just talk freely. It would have gone

1365
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: nuts regardless, so it's going nuts. Then I would have dropped.

1366
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 1: I would have been on my two core. Then I

1367
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: would have droped more songs and because of the hype

1368
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: of old Time, those songs are just gonna go regardless

1369
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 1: because you're dropping within the moment, so they're gonna go.

1370
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: And he's actually like he's melodically uh you know skill,

1371
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: So then you do. I want to talk about that

1372
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 1: because that's that's insane and hilarious. But so I would

1373
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 1: have done that and then built up this leverage where

1374
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,600
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, I got Old Town Road, but

1375
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 1: I got these other songs, and I would have got

1376
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: with Kara, right, I would have got with Carrol Louise,

1377
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 1: and I would have put together a six city because

1378
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:33,719
Speaker 1: my first tour in America was a six city towards

1379
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: type of ship, five dat venues, and it's like it

1380
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 1: just sells the whole ship more. Do you know how

1381
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 1: much more money? I don't know what he I really don't.

1382
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what he got from Colombia, But do

1383
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: you know how much more he would have gotten if

1384
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: not only did Old Town Road break these streaming records,

1385
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 1: but then on top of that, you see sold out

1386
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: footage from l a New York tech like you're gonna

1387
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna management. Let no, no, but the guy but

1388
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 1: he didn't do that, let me and let me stop.

1389
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: You're an ultimate artist manager. But okay, but I don't

1390
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: want to ask sometimes I'm gonna say something that we

1391
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: had in our era because I'm a kid that came

1392
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 1: from Miami, from a from a suburb in Miami, had

1393
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: no connection the industry. So the way that I got

1394
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 1: connected to the industry was through conventions. Okay. One of

1395
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: the conventions that came to Miami made it affordable to

1396
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: me was how can I be down? Immediately? Well, I'm

1397
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: listening to you right now. Yeah, you're preaching the truth

1398
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: and everything. Actually, no, he doesn't actually know our error.

1399
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 1: That's what That's why I saw. So what I'm what

1400
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm what I'm thinking to myself is like, because you're saying,

1401
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: these people need to know this, and they need to

1402
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 1: know this and know that you to creative for him. Yeah,

1403
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 1: for younger cats to learn this and that. Because let

1404
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 1: me tell you something. So I went to how can

1405
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: I be down? As it's just hip hop fan a

1406
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: kid that just got turntables. Yetive I'm going and luckily

1407
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 1: it's in my city. Now, I will never go there. Right,

1408
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I go there and I go

1409
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: to the first panel that I could be a part of,

1410
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 1: and I'm ready tie me up. Yeah, and let me

1411
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: tell you how. One of the illest things that happened

1412
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: to be his panel behind me when the panelists said

1413
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: anybody got questions, someone behind me raises their hand and

1414
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 1: ask a question. And it was someone that I was

1415
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: the biggest admirer of as a fan, Chuck D of

1416
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 1: Public Enemy raise his hand, ask question? Is going on

1417
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: the story what I said, I just say, if he

1418
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: is asking a question and I'm fucked, Oh how I'm

1419
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: following up that I'm not following. I'm just saying, if

1420
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 1: he has questions still in the game. Oh yeah, yeah.

1421
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: But see, you know why that's beautiful because at least

1422
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:19,560
Speaker 1: you recognize that that like that self awareness is what

1423
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 1: makes people last to this level. But what I'm saying

1424
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: is everything you're saying right now, You guys need to

1425
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: do your own hop to night be down for generational purpose.

1426
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 1: You know what you know? You know what I'm doing,

1427
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: dumb har love it. You know what I'm doing. Though

1428
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 1: I wrote a book. I heard about the book. I

1429
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: got cat at looking at them because this is so

1430
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: interesting without it, I wrote a book and you know,

1431
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: the Alchemist and everything. So in deepok showber So HarperCollins

1432
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 1: published the book. So how's it calling myself at one

1433
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 1: point Doug Popper, right, I forgot am gonna find yourself

1434
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 1: smoke Chop smoke popo. But the name of the book,

1435
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 1: the name of the book of the book, not now.

1436
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: But I've been alive very so the name of the book.

1437
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 1: It's on your head. And that's and and I'm trying

1438
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 1: to give. I'm telling you that, like some it was

1439
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: always in me. It was definitely always in me. And

1440
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: then when Nipsey passed, it just kind of like reminded

1441
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: me of me almost. And it's about what you leave

1442
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: behind and what you're just giving. And it's on your head.

1443
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: It's just it's a two book. Like I don't want

1444
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 1: it to be an autobiography. High wrote this melody. It's

1445
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 1: not that it's yeah, it's in your head. It's what

1446
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 1: we've been talking about. It's about it's the game, not

1447
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 1: the point. It's about it self belief, and it's about

1448
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: these things that anyone can apply to the life and succeed.

1449
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to give you a how to succeed

1450
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 1: in music one oh one. That's like, it's just not

1451
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: applicable to anyone Else's not try to do music, you

1452
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: feel me? So I'm trying to. I'm just trying to

1453
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: get as much as i can at this point, bro,

1454
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: because I know that that's what it's about, and so whatever.

1455
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 1: Like now, granted it is my how abrasive and is

1456
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,560
Speaker 1: the how he's polishing, for sure, but you know what

1457
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: that listen, please do let me tell you, I'm not

1458
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: gonna give you something. Think about it in the hip

1459
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 1: hop but we were saying earlier, I'm saying listen in

1460
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: a different way. Yeah, taught to me cocky. We are

1461
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: taught to say that's no. That's why you know what's

1462
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: funked up to me? Right? Is that that's how you

1463
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:47,839
Speaker 1: know the consumer has changed drastically. Hip hop is still cocky.

1464
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 1: But the fact that there's now a problem with it,

1465
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 1: let you know that hip hop didn't change the consumer change.

1466
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: The consumer became more bitch made because why is me period?

1467
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 1: Well by the NFL would let the Pistons in nineties six,

1468
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 1: come on to bet the consumer is not hip hop? Right?

1469
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: This is the real ship. Now this is the no.

1470
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:17,640
Speaker 1: You're getting Matthew from fucking uh he like Nebraska and

1471
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 1: he's twelve years old, Thomas, and why do you all

1472
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 1: have to say the end where we can't say it?

1473
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, Rings and y'all are in academics comment

1474
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 1: section and like and so what ends up happening though,

1475
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 1: is that those types, that type of demographic runs the

1476
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 1: Internet sensation, which then the grown ass people move off

1477
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: of the Internet sensation, which is moved off of twelve

1478
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:46,680
Speaker 1: year old name Matthew Nebraska who say the end whre

1479
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 1: when they get drunk, and it's like, so you got

1480
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: forty year olds. Actually, when you trickle it down far

1481
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:58,480
Speaker 1: enough listening to Matthew Nebraska, it's reverse trickle down economics,

1482
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 1: which sucks balls. So so because one of my favorite

1483
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 1: Instagram posts is when you say it's still money in

1484
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: music was one of my favorite, right, But then I

1485
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: want you to break down that. I want you to

1486
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 1: also say because then you're saying that there's still money

1487
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: in music. If you yeah, then you saw the Staples Center, right,

1488
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 1: So if you can both of those down. If you can't,

1489
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 1: I want to be quiet. Absolutely so still owning. It

1490
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: comes down to the tomb. Course it right, And it's

1491
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 1: funny like my first rendition, in my first introduction that

1492
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: like hate was every time I would drop a song,

1493
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: I would say produced makes master Engineer, written by me,

1494
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 1: because that's what it was. No, they believed it. They

1495
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: got annoyed because they took it as bragging. Right, all

1496
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: those those right, So I'm really I'm giving credit to

1497
01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:00,680
Speaker 1: the roles right of what it takes to make us home.

1498
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 1: So that's where the first hate started coming from. But

1499
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, then, was it immediate though? Hate? No, nothing

1500
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 1: is immediate until you're in front of the massages, you

1501
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like when when the only fans

1502
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: like I would say like you're so popping, you don't

1503
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: have hands, you don't have haters, Like, you're not popping

1504
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,799
Speaker 1: yet until you have hater And it's like I always

1505
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 1: heard that. Ship. I was like that sounds like some

1506
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: cliche is like nah, oh yeah, you're popping. You're so popping,

1507
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 1: you don't even have hats What are you talking about?

1508
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: Every comments be too positive, just like if all off,

1509
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: if all of your d M s are positive. Ship

1510
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: I was there too. I was like, man, I literally

1511
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 1: have tweets and ship like, I don't think haters exists.

1512
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: I think it's all bullshit because I wasn't popping enough yet.

1513
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 1: Like if all of your comments on any need of

1514
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: you dropped, it's just all positive. You're just literally not

1515
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: popping yet. Is that simple? Because the only people who

1516
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: know you are die hard fans. Because if you know

1517
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:04,560
Speaker 1: about any artists when they have ten thousand followers, you

1518
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:06,560
Speaker 1: are just simply a die hard fan. You don't have

1519
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 1: They don't have enough energy that they've exuded themselves for

1520
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: you to commit your negative energy to it. You feel

1521
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: me so with um without was like, you know what,

1522
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 1: fuck it it is? What it is? What were you

1523
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 1: talking about? No? No, because I want let's go no please,

1524
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 1: I want to touch on it. What was that? No?

1525
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: What was the question? THO is a tune caution owning

1526
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 1: this ship, owning see this movie, what we do won't

1527
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 1: be blood again? We drink more? Talking about hold on?

1528
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 1: So now the fans, So you're normal because you don't

1529
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,640
Speaker 1: why think you hold it down and think you're to

1530
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 1: preacher And you gotta know that you have fun too,

1531
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 1: and guess guess what? Having fun on the Saturday doesn't

1532
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 1: mean you don't work on Monday through motherfucker's Sunday. That

1533
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 1: doesn't even mean you don't work on Saturday when you

1534
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: leave exactly. So now had the tune care ship. It

1535
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 1: was such an amazing thing. I wanted to say, sell stables.

1536
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,919
Speaker 1: What was the other caveat of the It was stables

1537
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 1: and then oh, yeah, that doesn't give me enough. But okay, no, no,

1538
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: because you know why. This is what I'm trying to say.

1539
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 1: This is the point I'm trying to say. Over there,

1540
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 1: think about that, everybody, because you made me make sense again.

1541
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say is the average person that

1542
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 1: goes on to yes will probably ever never ever make

1543
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: it to the never most like, so the thing is

1544
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 1: hard on but you can't if I'm a kid, right,

1545
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: which I was, If I listened to this interview bird's

1546
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 1: eye view and I hear that, I can't internalize that. No, no,

1547
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: but this is the thing. This is the difference between

1548
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:54,560
Speaker 1: the other one. The only way the one is that

1549
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 1: if I think I'm the one, the reason why people

1550
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: don't realize I didn't think I was the one, you're

1551
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 1: the first one. Like I'm gonna be honest, He's not

1552
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 1: the first one charge generation that I know that did

1553
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: it from. Because when people say independent, they mean empire,

1554
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 1: meaning they go to a person who bullshit. Okay, hold

1555
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 1: let me tell you that. Great examples, but the great

1556
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 1: example and not explaining to make it super clear, right,

1557
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: when people say independent, they actually mean I'm not signed

1558
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 1: to a major label, but I have empire. Okay, empire.

1559
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: Hold on, you know what empire is? Empires. If you

1560
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 1: get enough shame that they upstream you didn't, You're not independent, bro,

1561
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 1: because Atlanta has the Atlantic has the hooks and you

1562
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 1: and the phasing you. I was sitting in the basement

1563
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: doing it. So what what this whole what my whole

1564
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: ship is about? Bros? Honestly, yes, once I trashed at fourteen,

1565
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 1: for sure, But did I have the belief that superseded

1566
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 1: the skill love at the time to see myself because um,

1567
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,640
Speaker 1: this staple center thing. Yes, And that's the key is

1568
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 1: that you have to you have to own every step

1569
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: of the way. Yeah, you are trash right now, but

1570
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: you have to own that you are that. But you

1571
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 1: also are step tend that you may not even see.

1572
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: Right now, let me pick him up a little bit more. No,

1573
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 1: support that. He come on, let me lets me say this,

1574
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 1: you no supporting act because I want to touch on

1575
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 1: that too. And then you was greedy too. You don't

1576
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 1: even bring it. You're like not at tie, you know

1577
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 1: what I mean? She was like supporting that. He was

1578
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: like and like, you know what's crazy is that I'm

1579
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm so the dust had settled. Like I said to year,

1580
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: we can get it out even more, but the dust

1581
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 1: had settled, and I'm so we're happy with where I'm

1582
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 1: at because, Uh, I rubbed everyone the wrong way and

1583
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 1: I still got there my way. How do you rub

1584
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:08,640
Speaker 1: everyone the wrong way and you still making fours? And

1585
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: all that makes me want to say is that is

1586
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 1: fucking idiotic And it doesn't matter so uh doing the stables, man,

1587
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's if y'all wanted me to be humble,

1588
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 1: more humble and a little bit more quiet, you should

1589
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 1: not have let me done that, you know what I'm saying.

1590
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 1: And the thing we're not having openers just like bro

1591
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 1: artists need to understand that they need to they need

1592
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: to map out their audience, and too many artists are

1593
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 1: down to uh, you know, I'll go on tour with

1594
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 1: seven artists and we'll sell out five thousand people. It's like, yeah,

1595
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: that all looks great and good and dandy and everything,

1596
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 1: but how many tickets are you good for? How many

1597
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: tickets are you good for? Y'all never know because you're

1598
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 1: always a four piece thing. Like I always made it

1599
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 1: a point to myself, like I said earlier, like I'm

1600
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 1: trying to pull myself right. I want to do Staples

1601
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: by myself so that I know if I do two

1602
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 1: thousand tickets and that's what I'm good for it. But

1603
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 1: if I do sell out Staples, when I sell out,

1604
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 1: put it like this. Even when I sell out Staples

1605
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 1: and it's me, snooth tie whoever the funk it is,

1606
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't because of them. And you need that and

1607
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 1: you have to prove it to yourself. And that's my

1608
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: whole thing is prove it to yourself, Like all this

1609
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: ship what My My debut album is the first album

1610
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 1: ever in hip hop history history to be a produced, mixed,

1611
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: massive engineer, written performed by one person, no outside vocals.

1612
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 1: And I've heard all the names, y'all fucking suggest it

1613
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 1: does not take two seconds to just do research that

1614
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 1: person they didn't produce it all. They didn't mix it all.

1615
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking about engineering, make the whole ship come on.

1616
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: Has it sounds perious, but it's like it's like it's like,

1617
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 1: only did I do my whole debut album like that,

1618
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 1: but it went platinum and I had seven songs off

1619
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 1: that album with the Black that has never been done before.

1620
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 1: Not only now, I said, not only was I the

1621
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 1: first and only person in in the history of this

1622
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:30,600
Speaker 1: ship to do every aspect of the music. That's the production,

1623
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 1: the mixing, the mastering, the engineering, when you're in the

1624
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:38,759
Speaker 1: boothe thing's recording, you me, the writing, the sink everything.

1625
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm the only one to ever do it. And y'all

1626
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 1: can bullshit just whatever, do the research because they look

1627
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 1: and I love these people's music, the j Coles, the Traffs, Scott,

1628
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 1: that's what they always say. Just it takes two seconds

1629
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 1: to do Google. They didn't, They didn't do everything. Someone

1630
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 1: else might have mixed this one or engineered this one

1631
01:29:56,840 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 1: of that code tild But I'm just saying, like, listen,

1632
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 1: not listening. I'm not saying that to diminish whatever they're doing.

1633
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, don't you have do you not

1634
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 1: dare have the audacity to diminish what I'm doing because

1635
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 1: you can't stomach the fact that it is simply more

1636
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 1: than what these people are doing it. Yeah so, but

1637
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 1: but don't don't diminish what the funk I'm doing because

1638
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 1: the people who do mix and I'll leave my boy

1639
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:33,440
Speaker 1: five with Tie Todd at Scott like ali, um, yeah, liked,

1640
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 1: that's something Like they all they all know what's something.

1641
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 1: They know how much I appreciate it because I do it,

1642
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 1: So I like more than these fucking bozo artists. I

1643
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 1: know what goes into your craft, so I appreciate you

1644
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 1: even more. Let me ask you, let me finish. Let

1645
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 1: me finish a record that you didn't produce. Yea, I've

1646
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 1: done it hundred percent. But it's like it's about selfish

1647
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 1: right now. So after this, yeah, that's all good. So

1648
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: so when I'm looking at ship like that, I'm like, yo,

1649
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 1: this is the first of its kind. So it's just whatever,

1650
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 1: Like if you don't want to respect it, then you

1651
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 1: respect it. If you don't respect it and you don't

1652
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:20,560
Speaker 1: respect it. But the reality is that this is what

1653
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 1: it is. This is not fuck bragging people thought when

1654
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 1: I was when I was uh, Oh, here's the fucking

1655
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: ridiculous thing. When I'm when I'm putting out a song,

1656
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 1: I say produced makes the engineer written by me? Right,

1657
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 1: it's a problem. Now let me put out a song.

1658
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: Why have none of those roles? But I don't credit

1659
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:42,679
Speaker 1: to people who do. People will say you can't give

1660
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 1: credit to the producer. Oh wait, hold on, pick a side.

1661
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 1: You got a problem with you crediting producers or you

1662
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 1: don't because I credited the producer on all my catalog

1663
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 1: It just so happened to be me. So you really

1664
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 1: tell me what you have a problem with. You got

1665
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 1: you gotta problem with men? You feel me? What do

1666
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 1: you have a problem with me crediting producers on me

1667
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 1: being that ill you pick? I know what it is,

1668
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 1: but I'll wait for you to own that ship. I

1669
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 1: know what's up because let me put out a song

1670
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 1: that was mixed by that guy, produced by this guy,

1671
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 1: and people say you can't credit him. Oh no, I can,

1672
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 1: and I have. But I thought y'all had a problem

1673
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 1: with that. Oh no, never mind, you just had a

1674
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 1: problem with the fact that I was a starting team

1675
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 1: by myself. That's what you have a problem with, because

1676
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 1: then because it's a mirror. It's a mirror that shows

1677
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: you yourself what you are not doing. Because if I'm

1678
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 1: doing five tasks, it puts the mirror on you and asks.

1679
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 1: It makes you ask yourself. Man, I'm only making beest

1680
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 1: now if you're an insecure person to be like, fuck you, Yeah,

1681
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 1: you do five things? Fuck you? You know why? Because

1682
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 1: you're like, it reminds you what you're not doing. I

1683
01:32:55,640 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 1: remind you what you're not doing. Usually the drink chance

1684
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 1: is the part of the story where I actually be asked, oh,

1685
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, asked, wait, what if we ask if

1686
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:17,640
Speaker 1: you eat? Oh? No, what are you gonna ask? No?

1687
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 1: What we take? You know what I'm trying. You know

1688
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 1: what I'm probing to. No girl could ever like no

1689
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 1: girl if they ever said it's just a lot like

1690
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 1: but no one went like no. But I will say this.

1691
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:35,759
Speaker 1: I will say this. I don't know what happens at forty,

1692
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 1: but I'm twenty six. I'm just saying, like I heard, like,

1693
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 1: it's a it's an older thing thing, so that you

1694
01:33:52,880 --> 01:34:10,640
Speaker 1: obviously why anyone if you're a fan of russ at

1695
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 1: this point, you've had every reason to not be a

1696
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 1: fan of me, and the biggest and the only reason

1697
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 1: that matters is peer pressure. Because you have watched every

1698
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 1: peer of yours between fifteen and twenty one or twenties

1699
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 1: say fuck Russ, and so you've had every reason to

1700
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 1: be like you know, you know what ship. I don't

1701
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 1: want to be the one kid of my friend I

1702
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 1: got fans like that all the time. They hit me up, like, man,

1703
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 1: all my friends don't suck people. I folk with you like.

1704
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 1: I love those fans because that shows me that I'm

1705
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 1: making a difference as far as like you're the strong

1706
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 1: one of your friend group. You don't just get moved

1707
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 1: by media bullshit or just peer pressure. You feel me. So, uh,

1708
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 1: I have faith and I know what's up because my

1709
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 1: fans are still here. You had every reason by now

1710
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm hand it right to you. Let's attack of dead on.

1711
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,600
Speaker 1: IM prom had it right to you. Let's tack ded on.

1712
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 1: Do you think that because if you think, um, if

1713
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 1: you were black, right, yeah, not to say like you

1714
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 1: you want to be black, but if you were black,

1715
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:09,640
Speaker 1: do you think you you'll be Kanye West? Because at

1716
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 1: the end of the day, well, I would say this,

1717
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:13,760
Speaker 1: I would say this, and this might get people mad.

1718
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 1: Don't worry I won't get cancer right here. Uh, if

1719
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 1: I was black, more black people would sucking me, but

1720
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 1: less white people were. So the reality is like I'm

1721
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:29,760
Speaker 1: not black, I'm white, so naturally more white people sucking me, right,

1722
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 1: just like if you're you know, it just is what

1723
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:39,600
Speaker 1: it is. People always say, like, you know, and we

1724
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 1: can just address that right now. Uh, you know, being

1725
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 1: white and hip hop and that whole thing. Being white

1726
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 1: and hip hop makes it way easier to reach the masses,

1727
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 1: makes it way harder to reach hip hop, you know

1728
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it just depends on what you

1729
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 1: like if you were only now, if you were using

1730
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 1: hip hop as a vessel to get to the masses,

1731
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 1: then you don't care or that you're white, because you

1732
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 1: aren't trying to reach hip up anyway. You were just

1733
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 1: going for the pop lane. I was always am in

1734
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 1: love with hip hop, So that definitely bothers me, just

1735
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 1: because I understand it and I accept it, and I

1736
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 1: know that by me being white, I'm reaching just the masses,

1737
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 1: but I know that it makes it harder for me

1738
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 1: to reach the people that I wanted to reach and

1739
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 1: that I want to reach. Yeah, And so like I

1740
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 1: understand that I accept that, but like I said, I

1741
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 1: know that if I was black, I would reach more

1742
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 1: black people unless white people thought goes because that was deep.

1743
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 1: You know, listen, listen, I'm gonna be honest with you. Yeah,

1744
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 1: that was probably the most illiest ship I've ever heard. No, no, no,

1745
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 1: that's serious. I know. It was like, like, that's that's

1746
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 1: that's real, because the thing about it is, sometimes that's

1747
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 1: what I'm metting about lipsey ship. Yeah, sometimes you damn

1748
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 1: if you do. Meaning if you go to the hood,

1749
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 1: certain type of it means you gotta keep up. You're

1750
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:03,720
Speaker 1: in the hood. Yeah, people, but if you don't go

1751
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 1: to the hoodood and that's also a certain type of

1752
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:09,640
Speaker 1: imagy that I keep up too. So sometimes you can't win. No,

1753
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 1: you lose either way. You lose either way, and that

1754
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 1: that's the crazy ship is. We just talked about your

1755
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 1: luxurious life and everything that's good, but in that form,

1756
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 1: sometimes you lose, lose. And that's why it's like, you know,

1757
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 1: what I bank on is truth, and I bank on

1758
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm gonna die at some point. That's reality.

1759
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 1: It's not everyone's gonna die. How did we get here? Well? No,

1760
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 1: but now listen, listen, you are that's just beautiful. That's

1761
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 1: just beautiful. You believe that that's what it is actually

1762
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,679
Speaker 1: gonna happen because you have left behind ship that extends

1763
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:52,600
Speaker 1: your body. I would say, like, I'm everyone, I'm omnipresent

1764
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 1: because y'all listening to me in Australia without me being there.

1765
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 1: But I am there because my music transcending my body.

1766
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 1: So now my soul is just permeating throughout the world

1767
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,519
Speaker 1: and the ethos of it. So I know him a die.

1768
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 1: So I'm just trying to leave behind the truth because

1769
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 1: the truth will transcend all the hoop blond, the bullshit

1770
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 1: that happens in between the six months that the interview

1771
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 1: goes out, y'all will start yelling and y'all will have

1772
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 1: your whole think piece about reasons why russ should beat

1773
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:23,720
Speaker 1: that all these like because you're or just like just insane.

1774
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 1: Just ask if y'all got one people thinking I'm close

1775
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 1: to Luminati. I'm started to think me too. I start

1776
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 1: I just left that we're gonna have calendar, that's why

1777
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 1: he's going on. I'm I'll start playing with people like

1778
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 1: I think it's ridiculous. Yeah, So it's just like, it's

1779
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 1: not ridiculous. I think it's whatever. Honestly, that's how y'all

1780
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 1: know that I'm definitely not because I think it's ridiculous.

1781
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 1: And I also like when mother fucker sent me d

1782
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:01,600
Speaker 1: M is like, yo, please just watch out for this.

1783
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:05,519
Speaker 1: He's like, Yo, okay, that one was not good. That

1784
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:09,640
Speaker 1: one was not good. Question. No, I'm like, bro, like,

1785
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 1: you have got to stop, you know, wanting d NT

1786
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 1: and watching Netflix and going down the round YouTube. If

1787
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 1: a person say that you're yeah, I'll take it as

1788
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:23,799
Speaker 1: a complement. That just means that I am so winning

1789
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 1: that you can't comprehend it that you have to talk

1790
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 1: about and imaginary you're will positive than me. When I

1791
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 1: think about that, I'm saying that you wanted to piss

1792
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:36,800
Speaker 1: on the fucking sneakers like I don't even want to.

1793
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 1: I want to piss on the ankles like song still

1794
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 1: like dry and it's an is up because I'm like, yo, like,

1795
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,800
Speaker 1: do you understand how hard I work? Like I'm the

1796
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:49,640
Speaker 1: first person here, the last person? Like what you do?

1797
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 1: Want to take it with everything? See what I did?

1798
01:39:56,120 --> 01:40:00,120
Speaker 1: You beat me here today? You just made it is

1799
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 1: going to change the game. Okay, let's change. Here's the analogy.

1800
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 1: The industry plant of today. It's synonymous with the Illuminati

1801
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:17,920
Speaker 1: of the old head. Absolutely absolutely as bullshit as it is.

1802
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:21,840
Speaker 1: Illuminati is actually more bullshit. Industry plan is based on something,

1803
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 1: but it's it's that same. It's so successful that it

1804
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 1: must have to do with something. Now before before you

1805
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:31,719
Speaker 1: say anything, this, this is my little saying. Just slow

1806
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:33,639
Speaker 1: it out there and it's done. Please do another around

1807
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:40,640
Speaker 1: the tiger bombs too. Tiger bone can say bombs or

1808
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 1: some rum in your elbow, something, my manifesting something. So

1809
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:49,720
Speaker 1: what I this is what I say. This is what

1810
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 1: I say. The conspiracy is the conspiracy. Wow, I like that, chick.

1811
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 1: I think it's great. What's the mad great? Just gotta

1812
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 1: say deep, I'm now you gotta get because now you

1813
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:20,759
Speaker 1: pisscard me to know we're gonna take Pistre already shots

1814
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 1: he go birth hold on Now it's not told the Wow,

1815
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 1: So my dog, I think he's here. Oh he's back there,

1816
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:36,759
Speaker 1: So show Park is still alive. And don't Donald's drop crazy.

1817
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:43,680
Speaker 1: They got a bit too. If you watching a roll

1818
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 1: out of all the deliberation, that's what you left with

1819
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:55,600
Speaker 1: as a segway, yea, so always amazing. My dog is

1820
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 1: always got two bucks, a live Bucks two bucks and

1821
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:04,640
Speaker 1: trained dat boy the Flyers. I didn't be one when

1822
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 1: he was alive. So I would like to meet Hibody's dad.

1823
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:11,720
Speaker 1: I always I always tell my dog the conspiracy is

1824
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 1: a conspiracy. I'm not mad at that because I'm kind

1825
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:17,559
Speaker 1: of into that. They will always feed you something else,

1826
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 1: confused the ship out of you, absolutely, so you'd be like, nah,

1827
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:24,920
Speaker 1: this is it, and then y'all it distracted me from

1828
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 1: the truth. That's a lie. You like the Cuban dr

1829
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 1: C taking a pitch cut version, I'm going right after that. Yeah, yeah,

1830
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 1: don't don't. We called my pa outside its Dominican doll

1831
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:58,560
Speaker 1: like like I can seg picking up paren cimvil that

1832
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:08,000
Speaker 1: that he's happening. Are we recording right now the bathroom

1833
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 1: with a laser on the head. Somebody has a laser

1834
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:15,840
Speaker 1: and it's not happening. Let me know what we're recording,

1835
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 1: because I honestly do want to just take a second

1836
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 1: the big upcare and silver for sure. Yeah, you know

1837
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 1: what the crazy thing is. Yes, we're ready, we'll be good,

1838
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:41,360
Speaker 1: rolling room, get it and we're back in this Hey,

1839
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 1: guitar sponsors charmon, I mean this bottle least? How do

1840
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 1: you shut off? Play? Hold on? But how did they

1841
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 1: get this copyright? Because because there are best oh you know, hello,

1842
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 1: that's something like that's something like your best but there

1843
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 1: was shut up, Come on, friends, I don't know y'all,

1844
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:30,840
Speaker 1: y'all mutual friends don't know yet give me that ye yo,

1845
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:45,640
Speaker 1: shout out to h the best liqudrink. You're not, but

1846
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:54,639
Speaker 1: I do want to, Yeah, yeah, yes, perfect typing can

1847
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 1: civil is an absolute superhero, not super woman, not super

1848
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:06,680
Speaker 1: man superhero. Wats how crazy this is? It was one

1849
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:08,640
Speaker 1: of those things like a booking agent Carroll Lewis that

1850
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:12,880
Speaker 1: I always I knew because I studied the behind the scenes.

1851
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 1: I didn't like, yeah, you were rapping, you were making

1852
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 1: the beats, but who is doing everything else? Right? So

1853
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 1: I studied that. So Karen Sivil, like I, we knew

1854
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 1: about her pretty early on. So my best friend who

1855
01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 1: I started diving with, which is d I E M

1856
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 1: O N Dude Everyday Music, And I think it was

1857
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 1: a company we started when we were seventeen, because honestly

1858
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:34,600
Speaker 1: started as the website we were tried to put them

1859
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 1: songs on media fire. We wanted to just you get

1860
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 1: it from our website, not media fire, right, So that's

1861
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 1: how I started. Then it turned into a logo and

1862
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 1: close in this right um, which is why we always

1863
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:48,240
Speaker 1: funk with Nipsey because it was like we saw we

1864
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:56,640
Speaker 1: saw the same ship Um solen Um Warren Californio. We

1865
01:45:56,680 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 1: go to Nipsey shop. I'm eighteen, he's eighteen. Uh. We

1866
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:03,760
Speaker 1: buy clothes like that's a funny story, but the math. Yeah,

1867
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:05,840
Speaker 1: we go to the store that store. Bookis had on

1868
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 1: a hoodie, all red hoodie with a big bee on it,

1869
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 1: and I had on black air Force ones with red laces.

1870
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:15,599
Speaker 1: And we pull up and right before we get out

1871
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 1: of the car and what're seventeen eighteen? We don't know,

1872
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:20,360
Speaker 1: Like we're just moving off the music and we're like yo.

1873
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 1: I was like, man, you got a something called blue laces.

1874
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:26,120
Speaker 1: I was like, it's probably a great idea to go

1875
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 1: in with red laces. So so so we go in there.

1876
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 1: Booky stays off the hoodies. There's like a black teeth

1877
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 1: and I take out the liss my air Force ones

1878
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:38,439
Speaker 1: and we go in. But it was such a cool

1879
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:41,679
Speaker 1: memory for me because like Black Sam was there and everything,

1880
01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:43,600
Speaker 1: and it was just like it was dope, you know

1881
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 1: what I mean? It was it was we saw a

1882
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:48,080
Speaker 1: lot of ourselves in that and it was such an

1883
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 1: inspiration um the story itself, the Storytelf and just the

1884
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 1: fact of branding yourself and making it bigger than you. Like.

1885
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 1: So we had Diamond that that was what was the

1886
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:04,000
Speaker 1: original ship. Oh, Karen Civil. So that was so boosts.

1887
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 1: Older brother Jinior is doing ship with tech, you know

1888
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 1: what I mean. So we go out to l A

1889
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 1: for a couple of months, like September to October, and

1890
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 1: we're just going to the guys station and this is September.

1891
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 1: We're going to the guys station. We see Karen Civil.

1892
01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:30,639
Speaker 1: But to recognize that it's Karen Civil, Yeah, takes. That's

1893
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:33,200
Speaker 1: what the trick is because a lot of y'all don't

1894
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 1: recognize when your blessing is right in front of you

1895
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:37,800
Speaker 1: because y'all don't do enough education. You mostly want the

1896
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:40,120
Speaker 1: person that's in front of the camera, the person. Most

1897
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:43,679
Speaker 1: of y'all think that until I see Drake in person,

1898
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:49,560
Speaker 1: I am not successful. You don't realize that. Yeah, So

1899
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 1: we saw Karen Civil in at the gas station and

1900
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:57,599
Speaker 1: we were like we hopped out, got pictures, just set

1901
01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 1: what's up there? Whatever? And I remember I during her

1902
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:02,720
Speaker 1: on Twitter like yeah, I met the guess checking on

1903
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:05,680
Speaker 1: music like badgering, and I still like play around with

1904
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 1: her on that like yo, were here from the gas station.

1905
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 1: But she used to like hit me back every once

1906
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:12,680
Speaker 1: in a while, like I know we met at the

1907
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:16,120
Speaker 1: gay station like basically shut up, you know. But I

1908
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 1: was persistent, and the second I got uh, you know,

1909
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 1: I started living this life and and everything happened the

1910
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 1: way it happened. I was like, you know what, you know,

1911
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 1: Karen Civil because she's been an idol to me as

1912
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 1: far as that world for so long. Now that I have,

1913
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 1: you are already successful when I met her. Nothing I'm

1914
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:40,880
Speaker 1: saying four or five years past before I actually hired her.

1915
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 1: How were you? What were you successful at that point

1916
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:46,720
Speaker 1: you hired? When I hired her, Yeah, I hired it

1917
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 1: like last year. I'm saying you, Yeah, I know what

1918
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. To recognize her when you have eight hundred followers,

1919
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:57,560
Speaker 1: let you know that my head was not only on

1920
01:48:57,680 --> 01:49:00,360
Speaker 1: who was making the hits, it was who was doing

1921
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:04,720
Speaker 1: everything around. But that's what I'm saying that when you're successful,

1922
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 1: it's also ingenious of yourself. Thank you just to recognize

1923
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 1: that well, because I didn't. I didn't forget once it

1924
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:18,200
Speaker 1: got successful. She was always kind of in the back

1925
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:20,040
Speaker 1: of my head like a Carrol Lewis was where it's like,

1926
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm assemble a team, like a dream team, Like I

1927
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:26,400
Speaker 1: got the music unlock. I got it. Now whatever comes

1928
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 1: from that, like now I'm working with boy one in stories,

1929
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:32,640
Speaker 1: like whatever naturally comes from that is cool. But I

1930
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 1: got that unlock. If not now these other components, I

1931
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 1: need someone who can just rebound. I need someone who

1932
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:42,559
Speaker 1: can just etcetera. So I always had a can Civil

1933
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 1: and a Carrol Loose in the back of my mind.

1934
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:48,800
Speaker 1: But um cancer was just a superhero. She she right

1935
01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 1: with the mac Miller ship, insane, insane from what it

1936
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:55,559
Speaker 1: was said, I don't whatever, I don't want to say

1937
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 1: the long thing. But she found the body, right, that's

1938
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:02,240
Speaker 1: what that That's what I said, but definitely don't quote

1939
01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 1: me on it. But regardless of that happened to that,

1940
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 1: she was Hella close with him. So she loses him

1941
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 1: within six months. You lose Nipsey another close friend and

1942
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:12,599
Speaker 1: for you to still put on. The event you put

1943
01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 1: on is you're a superhero. You feel me like you're

1944
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 1: just a superhero. So there's nothing short of a praise

1945
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 1: that she's you know what I mean, Like there's it's

1946
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:28,240
Speaker 1: just a superhero thing. Because to to take the pain

1947
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 1: and to flip it in triumph and and recognize as

1948
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:34,840
Speaker 1: bigger than you is. It's so I remember when I

1949
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 1: told her that, because I'm going to give the roses

1950
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 1: while they're here. So that's a period your platinum debut albums,

1951
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 1: seventh certified songs on the album, and merce hip hop

1952
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 1: artists to ever go platinum on their debut album completely

1953
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 1: self produced, written, mixed, and mastered entirely. Yes, And then

1954
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 1: that's some fucking incredible ship. I'm gonna be honest. I

1955
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:08,840
Speaker 1: know you know you're crazy as the motherfucker because because

1956
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:14,759
Speaker 1: listen to right rhymes, you gotta be insane. To right rhymes,

1957
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 1: you gotta be insane. And when I stood with Swiss Beat,

1958
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 1: Swiss Beasts was the first producer that I went in

1959
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 1: the studio with and I realized that in order for

1960
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:25,040
Speaker 1: you to make beats, you also got to be crazy

1961
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 1: as well. Because because Swiss we played me some Ship

1962
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:31,599
Speaker 1: sometimes and I'll be in a student with him. I'm like, nah,

1963
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:34,360
Speaker 1: but this is my rhyme. And the Siss to be like, oh, Ship,

1964
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:36,760
Speaker 1: you got your rhyme already, bro, And I'm like yeah.

1965
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:40,800
Speaker 1: And with Primo that was normal what everyone else does.

1966
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:42,840
Speaker 1: But you know me and Swiss. You know, I think

1967
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm a year older than Swiss. I think I'm forty one.

1968
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 1: I think Swiss is forty. So um, when we're in

1969
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:52,680
Speaker 1: and the Swiss will had to make the rhyme to me.

1970
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:55,639
Speaker 1: So Swiss kept going so was he was he doing

1971
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:58,320
Speaker 1: the d t or raps where you rapp into the D. No.

1972
01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 1: This is what I'm trying to say is working with

1973
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:02,880
Speaker 1: Swiss because I was I had the rhymes already roll,

1974
01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 1: so I kept doing it. So how we got from

1975
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:10,160
Speaker 1: Bad from TV was but the se So how he

1976
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 1: got from you know, that's how we got Bad from TV?

1977
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 1: But all five of us was. What happened was, Um,

1978
01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:18,439
Speaker 1: I did a song called I'm Leaving on the Firm

1979
01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 1: album and it was actually Nature's session. It was Nature's

1980
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 1: song everything. But I was the dude that I always

1981
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:28,560
Speaker 1: had rhymes in my ship. So when I walked in

1982
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 1: the studio, Dr dre said you gotta rhyme and I

1983
01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:34,640
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I walked in Late Diverse. But the

1984
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:37,719
Speaker 1: whole time I'm like, yo, this is Nature's session. Any

1985
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:41,599
Speaker 1: other dudes would be like, he's a fucking thick faces.

1986
01:52:42,479 --> 01:52:44,280
Speaker 1: This is my session. Why would you say you gotta

1987
01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:47,040
Speaker 1: rhyme with Dr Dreke says do you have a rhyme?

1988
01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 1: Because it's Dr dre'diot. You know what I'm saying? You

1989
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:55,160
Speaker 1: know what? So I right, I ain't asked anybody if

1990
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 1: he was cool. You know session? You like, yo, Yo,

1991
01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 1: you got you know JayR s and Jay look you

1992
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 1: gotta rob Like usually dude was wanted to say it

1993
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:09,280
Speaker 1: was the cool I showed j but I was like, yo,

1994
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:11,120
Speaker 1: my dude, I'm cool. He asked me, I'm going in

1995
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:13,400
Speaker 1: boom I went, and I said, no, we know this,

1996
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 1: we know that. No, you know why I can make

1997
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 1: your rays and I swear I killed it in the

1998
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:23,439
Speaker 1: first tape. But I think Dr Dream was so much

1999
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:25,760
Speaker 1: like a perfectionist. He was like, just do it one

2000
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:29,400
Speaker 1: one time, and I was like, no problem, And I

2001
01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 1: did it one one time boom. So my thing was

2002
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 1: to pay to pay nature back from our head because

2003
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 1: I don't gonna lie. In my mind, I might have

2004
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:46,280
Speaker 1: said you here. So that's how Bad from TV got created.

2005
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:49,000
Speaker 1: It was because I had the whole rhymes with Swiss.

2006
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 1: Getting back to what I was trying to tell you,

2007
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:55,240
Speaker 1: I had these rhymes with Swiss and we had the record,

2008
01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:58,679
Speaker 1: but then we had to squeeze in nature. So nature

2009
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:01,200
Speaker 1: he didn't like anything at me and Swiss had laid

2010
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:05,560
Speaker 1: down prior to that, and then at this point I

2011
01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:08,880
Speaker 1: almost giving up. I was like, damn, man, so you

2012
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:11,719
Speaker 1: said you squeezed in nature because of what happened before,

2013
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:18,519
Speaker 1: because he didn't hate on so I'm trying to squeeze

2014
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:20,600
Speaker 1: him in, but he don't like nothing that me and

2015
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:24,519
Speaker 1: Swiss trying. So I'm almost like, man, this is not

2016
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 1: gonna work out. So at the very last end, this

2017
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 1: has been crazy. That's why band from TV work was

2018
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:33,600
Speaker 1: part of Hit Me Again. It was like where you at?

2019
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:36,160
Speaker 1: And I was like in the studio, punch just hung up.

2020
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 1: You never asked me where. I never asked me where

2021
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:40,640
Speaker 1: because he just had to connect on me. He always

2022
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 1: knew all my friends around that he didn't care about,

2023
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 1: you know, like I don't even know what fucking motherfucker.

2024
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 1: So um, So what happens is Swiss switches the beat

2025
01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:57,960
Speaker 1: and it's the band from TV. Be So I don't

2026
01:54:59,200 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 1: I can't say I don't like to be I just

2027
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:03,760
Speaker 1: I didn't love to be the first, but nature went

2028
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:08,480
Speaker 1: right in. Just lady. So what happens is Pun walks

2029
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:12,760
Speaker 1: in the studio at that same time, and we're all

2030
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:15,840
Speaker 1: chilling whatever whatever. I go to the bathroom. I'm going

2031
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:17,640
Speaker 1: down stands and smoke a cigarette because I always I

2032
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:21,800
Speaker 1: smoke cigarettes at the time and I hated to smell

2033
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:26,720
Speaker 1: a cigarettes, which is which is weird. And I came

2034
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:29,160
Speaker 1: back and punted head just laid his verse, and I

2035
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:32,160
Speaker 1: was just like to the engineer, funck boy, what the

2036
01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 1: fox wants? The engineers looking at me like you wanted

2037
01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 1: me to tell him this is a different engine there.

2038
01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:47,480
Speaker 1: But I'm looking at like but in my mind, pun

2039
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 1: killed the verse. But I also have to have my respect.

2040
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 1: This is MYRS, but this is my session, so I

2041
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 1: gotta be a little cocky. I'm gonna be like, Yo,

2042
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 1: why the fund you did that? But that's what the

2043
01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 1: fucking the way bad from TV happened, your rust man. Listen,

2044
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 1: we got more salute the last one salute, But let

2045
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 1: me just say that was a bad one as well,

2046
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:17,200
Speaker 1: not as bad as the previous. I don't think we're

2047
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:22,120
Speaker 1: venturing into Yeah, okay, let me just tell you I admire.

2048
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 1: This is where I'm got to not let anything back.

2049
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 1: But I really really admire zilious. It was zilious. I

2050
01:56:32,440 --> 01:56:36,120
Speaker 1: really admire how so many artists, so many people who

2051
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 1: was in your same position, we have not only gave up, oh,

2052
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:46,880
Speaker 1: they would have failed. They would have gave up miserably

2053
01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 1: because they would their whole life would have been ruined.

2054
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 1: And I know I actually listened a certain way before.

2055
01:56:53,920 --> 01:56:57,040
Speaker 1: But so you when you first start making money, when

2056
01:56:57,160 --> 01:56:59,640
Speaker 1: is that point where you like, this is it for me?

2057
01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:02,800
Speaker 1: I have to stay here because you know what it was?

2058
01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 1: Uh it? Once again, I think that it wasn't the

2059
01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 1: point and it was so it wasn't a money thing.

2060
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:15,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't a point. It was it was more of

2061
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 1: uh in emotion, like because my parents were we got

2062
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 1: to a place where well, my brother had a fiance,

2063
01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:30,720
Speaker 1: my sister wasn't was going to school, was going to college,

2064
01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:33,440
Speaker 1: and it was me, my mom and my dad in

2065
01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:38,640
Speaker 1: the house and this is uh right, So this is

2066
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:40,760
Speaker 1: like I remember, we moved around a lot, and I

2067
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 1: always look at for myself, my personal life and my moments.

2068
01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 1: I looked back at the houses I lived in throughout

2069
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:51,600
Speaker 1: Georgia as like these um bullet points for my musical career.

2070
01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:57,520
Speaker 1: So I remember moving to that house. Uh. Um it

2071
01:57:57,640 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 1: was a smaller it was a smaller house. We kept

2072
01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:04,400
Speaker 1: uh downsizing, which like with my dad's pride and everything naturally,

2073
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:06,480
Speaker 1: because I remember having that conversation with him where he

2074
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:09,920
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I'm I'm not supposed to be going backwards.

2075
01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:13,280
Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. So we started going backwards. So

2076
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:15,440
Speaker 1: we end up to this place. But I remember moving

2077
01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:18,280
Speaker 1: there to the smaller to the smallest house we had,

2078
01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:23,360
Speaker 1: and it was, um, it was like, man, uh, but

2079
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:25,000
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the house that I blew up in.

2080
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 1: I remember saying that on the sidewalk and post the

2081
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:33,000
Speaker 1: house with my mom. I remember saying it, and I

2082
01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:36,120
Speaker 1: was it was so I was now was when I

2083
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:38,240
Speaker 1: was twenty one. We I was twenty one because I

2084
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:42,760
Speaker 1: turned twenty two that year in September, So I was.

2085
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:45,680
Speaker 1: I know I was for short doing music, but there

2086
01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:49,160
Speaker 1: was nothing in my present day life to co sign

2087
01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 1: my belief and people need to understand that you need

2088
01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:55,560
Speaker 1: to operate off a delusion most of the time because

2089
01:58:57,000 --> 01:59:01,720
Speaker 1: no delusion, but like you have to find, you have

2090
01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:06,400
Speaker 1: to find the delusion. It's it's whatever you right, it's faith,

2091
01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, it's it's faith in

2092
01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:12,480
Speaker 1: the delusion. So I remember just being like, it's just

2093
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:14,760
Speaker 1: gonna work and that's it, and I don't want to

2094
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 1: hear anything about it. She's just gonna work. And I

2095
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 1: was it is, it's me. But it's also when I

2096
01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:24,520
Speaker 1: was five and my brother was a year older than me,

2097
01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:26,440
Speaker 1: and my dad was always our basketball coach at the

2098
01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:30,080
Speaker 1: rack and the wine type of ship, and you know,

2099
01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:32,200
Speaker 1: me always wanted to play with the older kids, and like,

2100
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 1: I just always wanted it. I just always I always

2101
01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:38,200
Speaker 1: wanted to prove to myself that I was really, really dope.

2102
01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 1: And doesn't maybe even stem off of an insecurity probably

2103
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:44,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Probably probably, But if that

2104
01:59:44,480 --> 01:59:49,560
Speaker 1: insecurity fuelled self love and fueled self exploration, then I'll

2105
01:59:49,600 --> 01:59:53,040
Speaker 1: take it. Then I'll then I'll bite that's be bumped

2106
01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:56,160
Speaker 1: if I find the fast length, you feel me? So, uh,

2107
01:59:57,120 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to prove to myself that I was as

2108
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:01,080
Speaker 1: great as I was. You feel me when I was

2109
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:04,080
Speaker 1: talking myself up in my room when I was eighteen

2110
02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:06,680
Speaker 1: and one, like man, nothing has happened yet, no song

2111
02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:09,160
Speaker 1: is blown up, but I'm sucking ill. Like I would

2112
02:00:09,160 --> 02:00:10,880
Speaker 1: say to myself in my head, I would believe it.

2113
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:14,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't just saying. It was feeling how you feel

2114
02:00:14,040 --> 02:00:18,000
Speaker 1: being the illness. And so when it happened, right, it wasn't.

2115
02:00:18,320 --> 02:00:21,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't this oh my god surprise. It almost felt overdue,

2116
02:00:21,720 --> 02:00:25,680
Speaker 1: which is why you end up chasing this imaginary thing

2117
02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:29,760
Speaker 1: because if I always feel put it like this. I

2118
02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:32,000
Speaker 1: have wanted Grammy in my head so many times that

2119
02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:34,600
Speaker 1: when I went to Grammy, it won't feel as special

2120
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:38,200
Speaker 1: as if I wasn't expecting you know what I'm saying,

2121
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:41,400
Speaker 1: Because I've wanted like I went platinum on my debuts

2122
02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:43,560
Speaker 1: so many times in my head before it happened that

2123
02:00:43,600 --> 02:00:45,920
Speaker 1: when it did happen, I was just kind of like

2124
02:00:46,360 --> 02:00:50,840
Speaker 1: our time, Motherfucker's are slow. Was kind of robbed myself

2125
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:54,280
Speaker 1: of how great the moment is. But the antithesis of

2126
02:00:54,400 --> 02:00:57,160
Speaker 1: that is that it also allows me to stay hungry,

2127
02:00:57,600 --> 02:01:01,440
Speaker 1: because if my quench of thirst if my thirsty plays

2128
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:03,800
Speaker 1: right there with the platinum debut, I always want to

2129
02:01:03,880 --> 02:01:06,600
Speaker 1: platinum debut album. Now I gotta platinum debut album. If

2130
02:01:06,680 --> 02:01:08,960
Speaker 1: that right there, quench my thirst And guess what, I

2131
02:01:09,080 --> 02:01:11,600
Speaker 1: got rich and I stopped trying, and I'm this. I'm

2132
02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:13,240
Speaker 1: sitting here in on ount of my business. But the

2133
02:01:13,320 --> 02:01:16,680
Speaker 1: reality is that I was me before y'all realized I

2134
02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:19,440
Speaker 1: was me. So by the time y'all recognized I was me,

2135
02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:21,240
Speaker 1: I was off me. I was onto a new me.

2136
02:01:21,680 --> 02:01:23,800
Speaker 1: So now y'all got to catch up to this different version.

2137
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:29,200
Speaker 1: What's my man? That do the plays? He was on

2138
02:01:30,400 --> 02:01:37,560
Speaker 1: Kurbie Enthusiasmanda, I see legendary. Who's that? What's the name

2139
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:43,840
Speaker 1: the Hamilton's do? That does Hamilton's? I mean, if you

2140
02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:47,920
Speaker 1: the thing about it this he was the first reporter,

2141
02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:54,120
Speaker 1: Larry David, So he's the first guy to say, you

2142
02:01:54,240 --> 02:01:58,520
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna do a play Hamilton's over, but

2143
02:01:58,560 --> 02:02:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it in the hip hop that's hard.

2144
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:03,280
Speaker 1: He was the first one that did it, so everyone

2145
02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:07,120
Speaker 1: hated him right for the first five, six, seven years. Again,

2146
02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:10,840
Speaker 1: let's get deep. It was out there so and that's

2147
02:02:10,880 --> 02:02:13,120
Speaker 1: what that's what I'm saying that's what you're mommy of me,

2148
02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:17,960
Speaker 1: because like I just feel like nothing this anybody, but

2149
02:02:18,280 --> 02:02:21,720
Speaker 1: like you're kind of like you saw a vision that

2150
02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:25,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people that don't see. And if you

2151
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:27,560
Speaker 1: was to say it like yo, smarter than everybody can

2152
02:02:27,680 --> 02:02:31,240
Speaker 1: come off. But if I was just saying like, yeah,

2153
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:34,440
Speaker 1: you know what's fucked up is that? Wasn't this based

2154
02:02:34,520 --> 02:02:36,880
Speaker 1: off of cockiness? Let me ask, Let me ask two

2155
02:02:36,920 --> 02:02:41,160
Speaker 1: fold a question. Wasn't this based off of the culture

2156
02:02:41,880 --> 02:02:44,920
Speaker 1: the culture? Wasn't it based off of I felt commedia,

2157
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking to my ship. Okay, So it's two folds.

2158
02:02:47,600 --> 02:02:50,480
Speaker 1: So then the second fold is like, Okay, let's say

2159
02:02:50,520 --> 02:02:53,520
Speaker 1: it's not based off of that. Right, Let's for conversations

2160
02:02:53,600 --> 02:02:56,000
Speaker 1: like absolutely disagree with Let's say it's not based off

2161
02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:59,520
Speaker 1: of that. Let's say, what are these artists now who

2162
02:02:59,560 --> 02:03:03,600
Speaker 1: are twenty twenty one who they're cocky, but not about

2163
02:03:03,680 --> 02:03:08,480
Speaker 1: hip hop, not about the craft. They're cocky about getting

2164
02:03:08,520 --> 02:03:12,520
Speaker 1: high or buying gucci or buying So y'all are cocky

2165
02:03:12,640 --> 02:03:17,680
Speaker 1: about being, uh, you don't work with gay people, but

2166
02:03:17,800 --> 02:03:20,880
Speaker 1: y'all are cocky about wearing gay people's clothes who don't

2167
02:03:20,920 --> 02:03:25,120
Speaker 1: sunk with you. So how does how does that make sense?

2168
02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:28,640
Speaker 1: Because you gotta understand that I'm cocky about self sufficiency

2169
02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:32,800
Speaker 1: only my master's producing, mixing everything. I'm cocky about selling

2170
02:03:32,840 --> 02:03:35,200
Speaker 1: our Staples center with no openers and selling hard tickets

2171
02:03:35,200 --> 02:03:39,920
Speaker 1: and owner my ship. Y'all are cocky about rocking gay

2172
02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:42,280
Speaker 1: people's clothes, and you say you don't work with gay people.

2173
02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:44,600
Speaker 1: Y'all are how do you not work with gay people?

2174
02:03:45,000 --> 02:03:47,480
Speaker 1: Gay people are the endness. Y'all are wearing their clothes

2175
02:03:48,240 --> 02:03:52,000
Speaker 1: I know about. How do y'all say that that's insane

2176
02:03:52,080 --> 02:03:56,640
Speaker 1: when you actually think about the The mental facory of

2177
02:03:56,720 --> 02:03:59,640
Speaker 1: that is that you have a culture of people who say,

2178
02:03:59,720 --> 02:04:02,040
Speaker 1: I don't don't funk with gay people, but I just

2179
02:04:02,240 --> 02:04:07,640
Speaker 1: wear all of their clothes. How fucking insane are you?

2180
02:04:08,360 --> 02:04:11,000
Speaker 1: That's why I don't listen to anything those people are

2181
02:04:11,080 --> 02:04:14,480
Speaker 1: talking about. They are so lost, they don't know they're lost.

2182
02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:18,960
Speaker 1: They are. They are so caught in fuckory that they

2183
02:04:19,040 --> 02:04:21,720
Speaker 1: think fuckers where they're from. It's I'm not I'm not

2184
02:04:21,760 --> 02:04:23,880
Speaker 1: talking about any of those people. But I got something bigger.

2185
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:26,600
Speaker 1: I got something bigger. Bro let me respect from New

2186
02:04:26,680 --> 02:04:32,520
Speaker 1: York City. Every year in the playoffs, maybe twelve fifteen

2187
02:04:32,600 --> 02:04:41,680
Speaker 1: years Michael Jordan's came and destroyed us, and destroyed what

2188
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you. I hated Michael Jordan my

2189
02:04:44,720 --> 02:04:48,480
Speaker 1: whole life, but I also loved Michael Jordan's and I

2190
02:04:48,600 --> 02:04:53,000
Speaker 1: also loved his Kicks. So the thing is, I could

2191
02:04:53,080 --> 02:04:55,840
Speaker 1: hate what you actually do, but if I really love

2192
02:04:55,960 --> 02:04:58,560
Speaker 1: what you're doing, I'm not a hater. The thing is,

2193
02:04:59,480 --> 02:05:03,000
Speaker 1: sometimes when I find out that Michael Jordan owns private

2194
02:05:03,080 --> 02:05:06,480
Speaker 1: prisons and things like that, it hurts me. Yeah, but

2195
02:05:06,680 --> 02:05:13,320
Speaker 1: when the New Sevens come out, really not that's real though,

2196
02:05:13,720 --> 02:05:15,960
Speaker 1: that's real, that's real. I wanted me to do you

2197
02:05:16,080 --> 02:05:19,760
Speaker 1: want me to lie? Not this stream? Chance is it not?

2198
02:05:20,720 --> 02:05:27,240
Speaker 1: It's not to say, let's get ain't going to trust

2199
02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:32,360
Speaker 1: agree with you? It's not. And it's not about about

2200
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:35,080
Speaker 1: you know it's about to come up. You know. Line

2201
02:05:35,160 --> 02:05:38,840
Speaker 1: was about you know what my line was my life

2202
02:05:39,000 --> 02:05:41,760
Speaker 1: was I'm from New York. It's not gonna get me kids,

2203
02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:45,040
Speaker 1: but it's in my line, my people, I'm from New York.

2204
02:05:45,880 --> 02:05:48,800
Speaker 1: This is my line. Listen, it's my line. I'm from

2205
02:05:48,880 --> 02:05:52,560
Speaker 1: New York. Still I'll be hating the Knicks and Jordan's,

2206
02:05:54,160 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 1: but still I'll be rocking his kids. That was give

2207
02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:04,960
Speaker 1: up that I don't see because I'm real about I

2208
02:06:05,200 --> 02:06:07,200
Speaker 1: not like you because you killed my knicks and you

2209
02:06:07,360 --> 02:06:10,520
Speaker 1: killed it. But if you watch some look there right now,

2210
02:06:10,560 --> 02:06:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm sing with your n's like those is all showing

2211
02:06:15,720 --> 02:06:19,480
Speaker 1: the camera, showing the camera. Come everyone with the camera.

2212
02:06:19,600 --> 02:06:22,320
Speaker 1: I ain't let me even see these. They literally their

2213
02:06:22,400 --> 02:06:25,000
Speaker 1: nineteen hunting. I'm gonna stand on the table. No, no,

2214
02:06:25,160 --> 02:06:26,960
Speaker 1: put your feet up. It's okay, it's okay, we've done

2215
02:06:27,000 --> 02:06:30,880
Speaker 1: it before. Look it. Let it do. Come on, take

2216
02:06:30,920 --> 02:06:34,400
Speaker 1: a picture. Do all type of ship because that I

2217
02:06:34,400 --> 02:06:37,400
Speaker 1: ain't never seen those. I don't even know what those is.

2218
02:06:38,040 --> 02:06:41,200
Speaker 1: On the low. Those is hard on. Let me not.

2219
02:06:41,480 --> 02:06:43,880
Speaker 1: Let me know when y'all snap, they look expensive. He

2220
02:06:43,960 --> 02:06:46,480
Speaker 1: was like, you were just like meeting with DJ Kalik.

2221
02:06:46,560 --> 02:06:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it out there. Oh yeah, I gotta relax.

2222
02:06:56,520 --> 02:06:59,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna say to you what were we saying? What?

2223
02:07:01,720 --> 02:07:04,160
Speaker 1: Hold on? Can't I would say, you're about being cancels

2224
02:07:04,360 --> 02:07:11,080
Speaker 1: figuring out how about hate? It talks about hate, talking

2225
02:07:11,120 --> 02:07:14,680
Speaker 1: about that minute he was gonna come in some good

2226
02:07:14,760 --> 02:07:17,840
Speaker 1: ship than go on your man, I reckon, I'm talking

2227
02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:21,280
Speaker 1: about Jordan. Jordan's like guys sometimes like a funk with

2228
02:07:21,320 --> 02:07:23,160
Speaker 1: something that I don't funk with, like you know, yeah,

2229
02:07:23,240 --> 02:07:28,720
Speaker 1: let me find out. I just added, I'm about throwing

2230
02:07:31,520 --> 02:07:35,160
Speaker 1: kicks said for New York still hates the kid, but

2231
02:07:35,360 --> 02:07:38,600
Speaker 1: Jordan's still be backing his kicks sometimes it sounds like

2232
02:07:38,720 --> 02:07:41,080
Speaker 1: a great rap song. Guy, y'all honestly don't want me

2233
02:07:41,120 --> 02:07:45,720
Speaker 1: to because that's going to get cancer. That's gonna kiss

2234
02:07:45,760 --> 02:07:47,280
Speaker 1: me off. So I need to remember that. That was

2235
02:07:47,400 --> 02:07:51,400
Speaker 1: so hard. What was he was talking about where like

2236
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:59,440
Speaker 1: I was, he was saying something about wearing clothes. Yeah,

2237
02:08:01,120 --> 02:08:03,800
Speaker 1: he said he would never say this, and then bomb

2238
02:08:04,280 --> 02:08:10,800
Speaker 1: never happens again. I can just start talking up what

2239
02:08:10,920 --> 02:08:13,800
Speaker 1: the reality is that? All right? We were talking about

2240
02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:16,800
Speaker 1: the designers that people wear and used the flex for

2241
02:08:16,880 --> 02:08:20,960
Speaker 1: their own uh self improvement with their flexing designers. You

2242
02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:26,200
Speaker 1: don't like them, and and that's insane, that's insane. That's

2243
02:08:26,240 --> 02:08:29,320
Speaker 1: what I went to a Pierre you Weet party time.

2244
02:08:30,080 --> 02:08:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but this is definitely no but you know what,

2245
02:08:35,680 --> 02:08:39,720
Speaker 1: you know, you know it's crazy. Let me let me

2246
02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:42,640
Speaker 1: segway this. Sorry, I'm segway into a bigger topic now.

2247
02:08:43,200 --> 02:08:45,480
Speaker 1: Whatever we're about to talking about try about that last

2248
02:08:45,560 --> 02:08:50,960
Speaker 1: twenty seconds, the realities. I've talked to artists who didn't

2249
02:08:51,080 --> 02:08:56,200
Speaker 1: understand the power in merch and owning their merch and

2250
02:08:56,320 --> 02:08:59,080
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I was like, you don't understand.

2251
02:09:00,600 --> 02:09:03,720
Speaker 1: You're on i G Stories every day. I just spent

2252
02:09:03,800 --> 02:09:07,400
Speaker 1: thirty at Gucci. I just spent You're giving Gucci and

2253
02:09:07,720 --> 02:09:10,120
Speaker 1: Louis And, like I said, a lot of people who

2254
02:09:10,240 --> 02:09:14,080
Speaker 1: don't funk with you, right, who unless you have the

2255
02:09:14,160 --> 02:09:17,040
Speaker 1: accolades and status you have. But that's I'll get in

2256
02:09:17,120 --> 02:09:20,920
Speaker 1: that next. But you're out here giving them promotion. I

2257
02:09:21,040 --> 02:09:24,280
Speaker 1: was like, you're selling Gucci and proud of for them

2258
02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:26,480
Speaker 1: and they're not even paying you. You're actually paying them

2259
02:09:26,600 --> 02:09:29,320
Speaker 1: thirty thousand to shop from the story. I was like, Yo,

2260
02:09:29,640 --> 02:09:33,120
Speaker 1: the reason why merchant is beautiful is because you love clothes, right,

2261
02:09:33,160 --> 02:09:36,560
Speaker 1: you love fashion, rock your own ship. So now all

2262
02:09:36,600 --> 02:09:39,520
Speaker 1: the same I G stories. You're rocking your ship. You're

2263
02:09:39,600 --> 02:09:42,640
Speaker 1: rocking Rocket Feller, You're rocking whatever the funk it is.

2264
02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:45,680
Speaker 1: You're rocking your ship. And the same people who you

2265
02:09:45,720 --> 02:09:48,600
Speaker 1: would have directed towards Gucci, you're not directing towards yourself

2266
02:09:49,080 --> 02:09:54,320
Speaker 1: because you realize that people don't care about the brand.

2267
02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:59,360
Speaker 1: They care about who's selling. It's been around. He's sold

2268
02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:03,160
Speaker 1: charged clothes, church closing. That nigg is the less because

2269
02:10:03,160 --> 02:10:07,800
Speaker 1: he answered he serves church close. Nigger. That was all.

2270
02:10:08,160 --> 02:10:12,320
Speaker 1: But it's like respected, that was weird. Well well yeah,

2271
02:10:12,360 --> 02:10:17,040
Speaker 1: but when the church collection in the church, is that

2272
02:10:17,240 --> 02:10:22,440
Speaker 1: not weird? Standing the same selling? Yeah, that's superta. I'm

2273
02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:28,600
Speaker 1: just thinking of some bulls. But church collection, which is

2274
02:10:28,680 --> 02:10:33,080
Speaker 1: the lookers church collection. You don't sell your church collection.

2275
02:10:33,160 --> 02:10:42,080
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold because you said merchant. Hold on, you said,

2276
02:10:42,680 --> 02:10:45,640
Speaker 1: you said he you shouldn't be selling church clothes. You

2277
02:10:45,680 --> 02:10:49,520
Speaker 1: shouldn't be No, don't sell the church game at all. Okay,

2278
02:10:49,720 --> 02:10:54,920
Speaker 1: I hear you. So let's be there, let's go there,

2279
02:10:55,160 --> 02:10:59,480
Speaker 1: let's go. I'm not selling church close. However, I believe

2280
02:10:59,640 --> 02:11:03,640
Speaker 1: that people are only gonna be down for and accept

2281
02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:06,320
Speaker 1: whatever you accept for yourself. So if you decide to

2282
02:11:06,480 --> 02:11:09,800
Speaker 1: sell church close, guess what the consumer who is ienas

2283
02:11:10,120 --> 02:11:13,880
Speaker 1: gonna do buying church close. So now the buys a

2284
02:11:14,040 --> 02:11:17,880
Speaker 1: lot some of the some of the service, the devil.

2285
02:11:19,080 --> 02:11:23,720
Speaker 1: It would it would sound crazy. That's like the reality

2286
02:11:24,040 --> 02:11:29,480
Speaker 1: is that dumbasses. The consumer. The consumer reacts gat to

2287
02:11:29,800 --> 02:11:33,160
Speaker 1: controlled like idiots that. Yeah, but so when it happens,

2288
02:11:33,280 --> 02:11:36,160
Speaker 1: then you have to not hold the but you can't

2289
02:11:36,200 --> 02:11:39,880
Speaker 1: controy your fans. Let me trying to get the most.

2290
02:11:43,600 --> 02:11:46,880
Speaker 1: You know what, I look at you, you know you

2291
02:11:46,960 --> 02:11:51,280
Speaker 1: know what. I know that because you don't want that sometimes,

2292
02:11:51,720 --> 02:11:54,480
Speaker 1: because sometimes it's crazy. The thing about it is, sometimes

2293
02:11:54,600 --> 02:11:59,040
Speaker 1: we don't want a product. It's just like you said,

2294
02:11:59,160 --> 02:12:01,920
Speaker 1: you ate was the sixteen year old, the fourteen year

2295
02:12:01,960 --> 02:12:07,000
Speaker 1: old that was. I didn't say that. I didn't let

2296
02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:23,960
Speaker 1: me go on taking drugs. Let me finish ye you

2297
02:12:24,040 --> 02:12:27,240
Speaker 1: want to care you said, you said, you said, I'm

2298
02:12:27,280 --> 02:12:29,720
Speaker 1: sorry I said that old wrong. But you know what

2299
02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Your shirt, huh, your shirt was for them

2300
02:12:32,720 --> 02:12:39,880
Speaker 1: to prevct this. What I'm saying is that shirt was

2301
02:12:40,080 --> 02:12:43,120
Speaker 1: for them to prevent that right, for them to the

2302
02:12:43,200 --> 02:12:46,840
Speaker 1: fourteen year olds, for them to prevent the stipping lane.

2303
02:12:47,280 --> 02:12:49,400
Speaker 1: You know all that I'm drinking lean, but you know,

2304
02:12:49,640 --> 02:12:53,320
Speaker 1: you know who that audience hit. It was hitting everybody

2305
02:12:53,360 --> 02:12:57,920
Speaker 1: who was on lean, everybody who was your peers, not

2306
02:12:58,080 --> 02:13:00,320
Speaker 1: to people who you was trying to speak that was

2307
02:13:00,440 --> 02:13:02,360
Speaker 1: younger than you, that's coming up. That's who was trying

2308
02:13:02,360 --> 02:13:06,240
Speaker 1: to save their lives. But the message actually hit you know,

2309
02:13:06,320 --> 02:13:09,840
Speaker 1: the little verbs and all these guys, everybody who wanted

2310
02:13:09,880 --> 02:13:12,320
Speaker 1: to say, what the fun is? God thinks he's better

2311
02:13:12,360 --> 02:13:15,440
Speaker 1: than us. Because so that's the point I was trying

2312
02:13:15,480 --> 02:13:23,520
Speaker 1: to make. I hate all. No, no, no, I respect that.

2313
02:13:23,640 --> 02:13:29,400
Speaker 1: I respect picture no. We went in man, you know,

2314
02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:32,680
Speaker 1: let me just say something. What I got. I think

2315
02:13:32,720 --> 02:13:35,680
Speaker 1: I got about one more question? Bro got anybody else

2316
02:13:35,760 --> 02:13:39,920
Speaker 1: got got way more answers. Let's go and and And

2317
02:13:40,040 --> 02:13:45,000
Speaker 1: that's the thing about you, um is so many people

2318
02:13:45,160 --> 02:13:50,440
Speaker 1: think that's your stand offish m hm. You want to

2319
02:13:50,520 --> 02:13:55,480
Speaker 1: know why. That's beautiful because I would rather be assumed

2320
02:13:55,920 --> 02:13:58,080
Speaker 1: I don't funk with you than I do funk with you.

2321
02:13:58,640 --> 02:14:02,160
Speaker 1: That's real one of your famous ships, because I don't.

2322
02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:04,920
Speaker 1: I don't work with y'all. And if I do funk

2323
02:14:04,960 --> 02:14:07,880
Speaker 1: with y'all, you will know. Like the crazy thing is,

2324
02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:11,600
Speaker 1: like I love twenty nineteen right now because I'm working

2325
02:14:11,640 --> 02:14:13,160
Speaker 1: with people, and like I was always down to work

2326
02:14:13,240 --> 02:14:15,560
Speaker 1: with people, but I was just I was selective, Like

2327
02:14:15,680 --> 02:14:18,440
Speaker 1: I said, I wasn't doing collaps for the points like

2328
02:14:18,720 --> 02:14:21,280
Speaker 1: I have to like your music. I don't like him music.

2329
02:14:21,320 --> 02:14:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm not making a song with you. Like I still

2330
02:14:23,440 --> 02:14:26,080
Speaker 1: because I have that financial freedom that the independent Catalog

2331
02:14:26,160 --> 02:14:28,360
Speaker 1: gives me. I'm not doing it off of the check.

2332
02:14:28,720 --> 02:14:31,200
Speaker 1: So I'm doing it off of like do I actually

2333
02:14:31,280 --> 02:14:33,200
Speaker 1: funk with you? If I don't actually work with you

2334
02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:35,800
Speaker 1: and whatever you're saying, I'm not doing it. I don't care.

2335
02:14:36,440 --> 02:14:40,840
Speaker 1: We're looking for your're sitting over here, but it's not good.

2336
02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:46,240
Speaker 1: But that's what that's what it was about. So I'm

2337
02:14:46,280 --> 02:14:50,520
Speaker 1: just I'm moving off of this, like I funk with you.

2338
02:14:51,080 --> 02:14:53,640
Speaker 1: It's not a matter of anything else. Know, you're setting

2339
02:14:53,720 --> 02:14:55,880
Speaker 1: up something so great because you know what it is.

2340
02:14:55,960 --> 02:14:58,640
Speaker 1: That's my taste. You know, you know what my taste.

2341
02:14:58,680 --> 02:15:00,840
Speaker 1: I just want to taste. Like when you look at

2342
02:15:01,800 --> 02:15:05,840
Speaker 1: like you see those artists who hundred dollars for the

2343
02:15:05,880 --> 02:15:11,560
Speaker 1: feature today, only it's like it's like, YO, find a

2344
02:15:11,680 --> 02:15:16,280
Speaker 1: different hustle. You feel me because it's like you're out

2345
02:15:16,360 --> 02:15:19,800
Speaker 1: here just you're diminishing your own value of your ideas

2346
02:15:19,880 --> 02:15:23,280
Speaker 1: because you're wrapping and singing or whatever you're offering. It's

2347
02:15:23,280 --> 02:15:25,880
Speaker 1: a it's such a creative and tangible thing that you're

2348
02:15:25,920 --> 02:15:27,640
Speaker 1: offering that you don't even put a price on it.

2349
02:15:27,720 --> 02:15:31,160
Speaker 1: In general, is trash. Let them alone a hundred dollars, Like,

2350
02:15:31,880 --> 02:15:35,000
Speaker 1: now you're all you're doing is if you're letting the

2351
02:15:35,080 --> 02:15:37,320
Speaker 1: consumer know that you're not wor ship but a hundred

2352
02:15:37,320 --> 02:15:41,160
Speaker 1: dollars your own staffs Now, this is this is This

2353
02:15:41,320 --> 02:15:44,040
Speaker 1: is a crazy thing that's happening in our community right now.

2354
02:15:44,520 --> 02:15:46,960
Speaker 1: So many people are calling other people culture voters. Have

2355
02:15:47,320 --> 02:15:49,960
Speaker 1: been called a culture vote because I'm like, let me

2356
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:51,560
Speaker 1: talk on that too, because the one needs to hear

2357
02:15:51,600 --> 02:15:55,360
Speaker 1: this ship too, and white people are gonna get piste off.

2358
02:15:55,360 --> 02:15:59,920
Speaker 1: But it is what it is. First of all, when

2359
02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:03,200
Speaker 1: need to we need to address a certain thing. I'm

2360
02:16:03,240 --> 02:16:07,120
Speaker 1: just waiting for my queer and I hit the mic,

2361
02:16:07,280 --> 02:16:09,120
Speaker 1: so now we'll start. First of all, we need to

2362
02:16:09,160 --> 02:16:12,160
Speaker 1: address a certain thing. Culture is an euphemism for black.

2363
02:16:12,360 --> 02:16:13,960
Speaker 1: That's what we need to first get out of the way.

2364
02:16:14,120 --> 02:16:17,240
Speaker 1: Because when you're in a room with the Columbia or

2365
02:16:17,280 --> 02:16:20,040
Speaker 1: an r C A or public or whatever you label

2366
02:16:20,120 --> 02:16:23,400
Speaker 1: yat um, it's really four. This is the other guy

2367
02:16:23,440 --> 02:16:26,720
Speaker 1: for what's four houses. They own every other label which

2368
02:16:26,760 --> 02:16:29,520
Speaker 1: is owned by that. You think you're signed to r

2369
02:16:29,560 --> 02:16:32,760
Speaker 1: C A and not Columbia Yellow Boast, You're signed it

2370
02:16:32,800 --> 02:16:37,440
Speaker 1: Sony exactly right. So boom. Alright, so I need rocket fello,

2371
02:16:38,360 --> 02:16:44,720
Speaker 1: doesn't not your floor elevators and the cubicles instead of

2372
02:16:44,800 --> 02:16:48,680
Speaker 1: the same way. That's why I know who do. But

2373
02:16:51,160 --> 02:16:55,039
Speaker 1: the reality is that culture is euphemism for black because,

2374
02:16:55,040 --> 02:16:58,400
Speaker 1: like I said, when you're in those offices and you no,

2375
02:16:59,200 --> 02:17:01,160
Speaker 1: let me, let me just do the whole point. When

2376
02:17:01,280 --> 02:17:03,680
Speaker 1: you're in those rooms where it's a long table. You

2377
02:17:03,840 --> 02:17:09,000
Speaker 1: watch all the white people who play softballs on Sundays

2378
02:17:09,680 --> 02:17:14,280
Speaker 1: use the words culture in the words urban as euphemisms

2379
02:17:14,360 --> 02:17:16,400
Speaker 1: for black because they say this is gonna be great

2380
02:17:16,440 --> 02:17:18,920
Speaker 1: for the urban audience, and this is gonna be great.

2381
02:17:19,240 --> 02:17:22,240
Speaker 1: Is it inappropriate for them to say the black audience?

2382
02:17:23,800 --> 02:17:27,279
Speaker 1: But I don't know, and I want you to continue

2383
02:17:27,320 --> 02:17:29,680
Speaker 1: because your own point. Yeah, what I'm trying to say

2384
02:17:29,800 --> 02:17:33,080
Speaker 1: is I think that it's been enterchangeable with Latinos too,

2385
02:17:33,600 --> 02:17:35,680
Speaker 1: like when they wanted to be Latin. You know, it's

2386
02:17:35,720 --> 02:17:40,720
Speaker 1: Latino when it's not sure. But hip hop, no, I agree,

2387
02:17:40,879 --> 02:17:44,800
Speaker 1: it's when it's convenient, right, And so that's yeah. But

2388
02:17:44,959 --> 02:17:49,959
Speaker 1: hip hop was started by black people as an intenthesis

2389
02:17:50,080 --> 02:17:53,200
Speaker 1: to white dominance and white bullshit. You feel me, So

2390
02:17:53,959 --> 02:17:56,280
Speaker 1: when you have a bunch of white people in a

2391
02:17:56,520 --> 02:18:01,000
Speaker 1: in a boardroom situation telling you, uh, the culture and

2392
02:18:01,320 --> 02:18:04,120
Speaker 1: urban youth and our urban radio. It's all euphemism from

2393
02:18:04,160 --> 02:18:07,760
Speaker 1: black right. So what they're doing, I might be attacked,

2394
02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:11,920
Speaker 1: but no what you're doing. I might be attacked, but

2395
02:18:12,120 --> 02:18:14,960
Speaker 1: go for it. But either way, but what they're doing

2396
02:18:15,280 --> 02:18:24,080
Speaker 1: is there. They're absolutely just manipulating that aspect. And it's

2397
02:18:24,120 --> 02:18:28,440
Speaker 1: just it's it's not just that you feel me, you

2398
02:18:28,520 --> 02:18:31,960
Speaker 1: got me sidehack. Let me just finish my ship. I

2399
02:18:32,040 --> 02:18:34,039
Speaker 1: gotta go other than get what was I talking about?

2400
02:18:34,320 --> 02:18:36,119
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know you've got mad not Jerry

2401
02:18:36,160 --> 02:18:37,800
Speaker 1: and niggas bros. Now I don't want to, I don't

2402
02:18:37,800 --> 02:18:41,280
Speaker 1: want talk about not. Let me just not. Let me

2403
02:18:41,320 --> 02:18:43,880
Speaker 1: just don't I feel y'all. But let me just go

2404
02:18:44,080 --> 02:18:47,959
Speaker 1: because otherwise I forget. No, we got a check when

2405
02:18:47,959 --> 02:18:51,000
Speaker 1: we got not you in eject. But just like yeah,

2406
02:18:51,000 --> 02:18:55,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose my ship, little brother. Yeah, because because

2407
02:18:55,480 --> 02:18:59,160
Speaker 1: it's in point. Because it's like yo, like you have

2408
02:18:59,240 --> 02:19:02,360
Speaker 1: white people who say softball on Sundays dictating black culture

2409
02:19:02,760 --> 02:19:05,600
Speaker 1: and they're signing artists off of what the white fourteen

2410
02:19:05,680 --> 02:19:09,119
Speaker 1: year olds with meme accounts tell you is black culture.

2411
02:19:09,680 --> 02:19:13,000
Speaker 1: And so that's a problem. That's a problem. That's the

2412
02:19:13,160 --> 02:19:16,480
Speaker 1: root of it, because uh, face tattoos and all that

2413
02:19:16,560 --> 02:19:21,640
Speaker 1: ship was was game related off the red You're not

2414
02:19:21,720 --> 02:19:24,000
Speaker 1: getting face tattooess unless there was some ship behind it,

2415
02:19:25,160 --> 02:19:27,440
Speaker 1: not getting face tattoos in the aesthetic. So y'all are

2416
02:19:27,520 --> 02:19:31,280
Speaker 1: already emulating a lifestyle you're not about, but you are

2417
02:19:31,400 --> 02:19:34,320
Speaker 1: trying to sell that to people. And since you're the

2418
02:19:34,440 --> 02:19:37,760
Speaker 1: people you're selling it to, you're a fake selling it

2419
02:19:37,959 --> 02:19:41,880
Speaker 1: to little white kids who are the ones running the

2420
02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:47,680
Speaker 1: meme accounts in the digital real estate. That ends up

2421
02:19:47,680 --> 02:19:49,920
Speaker 1: shooting back up the lot of towards the labels who

2422
02:19:50,000 --> 02:19:54,119
Speaker 1: don't know anything. They end up signing people based off

2423
02:19:54,160 --> 02:19:57,080
Speaker 1: of whoever these people who fall for this lifestyle, who

2424
02:19:57,080 --> 02:20:00,400
Speaker 1: are falling for this it's just all the funk joke.

2425
02:20:01,160 --> 02:20:03,560
Speaker 1: It's all a joke. It's all a joke because you

2426
02:20:03,680 --> 02:20:07,800
Speaker 1: have the higher ups actually being dictated, tugged, and pulled

2427
02:20:08,120 --> 02:20:10,600
Speaker 1: by thirteen year old white kids who have meme accounts.

2428
02:20:11,360 --> 02:20:16,960
Speaker 1: But it doesn't make it harder him not you know why,

2429
02:20:17,400 --> 02:20:21,920
Speaker 1: because I win every time because it's the truth. It

2430
02:20:22,000 --> 02:20:25,520
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what you are talking about. What we do.

2431
02:20:25,640 --> 02:20:27,880
Speaker 1: Pull up the list it's brutal. You know how many

2432
02:20:28,040 --> 02:20:33,360
Speaker 1: artists have popped and only had a summer m hard?

2433
02:20:33,480 --> 02:20:37,000
Speaker 1: Lets you want to go through Boggis, where's your list? Ship?

2434
02:20:38,959 --> 02:20:45,200
Speaker 1: You buggers best friend? That's all boggers mono, what's going on?

2435
02:20:46,280 --> 02:20:51,879
Speaker 1: You already sound like you stab people. Now what I'm

2436
02:20:51,920 --> 02:20:56,320
Speaker 1: saying like, we gotta, we gotta really look at what's

2437
02:20:56,320 --> 02:20:58,920
Speaker 1: going on with inside of the ship. With inside of

2438
02:20:58,959 --> 02:21:03,199
Speaker 1: the ship. It's it's it's people who don't have any

2439
02:21:03,280 --> 02:21:06,840
Speaker 1: fucking crew and they get to be the bank for

2440
02:21:06,920 --> 02:21:11,000
Speaker 1: a little Nasax but they don't have any clue, and

2441
02:21:11,280 --> 02:21:13,440
Speaker 1: it's just it's so pathetic, and it's so sad to

2442
02:21:13,520 --> 02:21:16,560
Speaker 1: me because I really wish, like I could have told

2443
02:21:16,600 --> 02:21:19,840
Speaker 1: a little Nasacs like, yo, you will make way more

2444
02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:24,560
Speaker 1: than that by yourself, and let's say two million dollars deeper,

2445
02:21:24,640 --> 02:21:28,120
Speaker 1: you making that money. Whatever you agree to Columbia with

2446
02:21:28,280 --> 02:21:31,400
Speaker 1: you could have charged them double so you would have

2447
02:21:31,440 --> 02:21:34,720
Speaker 1: gotten this two middle off a tune corps. Plus it's

2448
02:21:34,760 --> 02:21:37,280
Speaker 1: still popping. But what if he did do that, if

2449
02:21:37,320 --> 02:21:41,680
Speaker 1: we don't know that he didn't, I could almost agree

2450
02:21:41,680 --> 02:21:46,480
Speaker 1: with you. I don't need to like without nobody's honest

2451
02:21:46,560 --> 02:21:49,280
Speaker 1: with this usually I have like inside information with this

2452
02:21:49,640 --> 02:21:53,440
Speaker 1: none at all. I don't have, like bro, sometimes you

2453
02:21:53,480 --> 02:21:58,119
Speaker 1: know the inside information in your gun period, I don't.

2454
02:21:58,120 --> 02:22:02,760
Speaker 1: I don't need to question my ship in time because

2455
02:22:02,840 --> 02:22:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, just be honest. Little remind me

2456
02:22:05,920 --> 02:22:13,480
Speaker 1: of Little Wayne nas nas and an X reminds me

2457
02:22:13,560 --> 02:22:16,600
Speaker 1: of d m X. And then I looked at those

2458
02:22:16,640 --> 02:22:20,560
Speaker 1: three names and I was like, those jerseys to be retired,

2459
02:22:21,280 --> 02:22:24,040
Speaker 1: like any no one should never like I hate a

2460
02:22:25,560 --> 02:22:27,920
Speaker 1: DJ named Noriag. That's something to be honest. I hate

2461
02:22:27,920 --> 02:22:32,800
Speaker 1: you like and then there's a there's a producer. It's

2462
02:22:32,840 --> 02:22:35,280
Speaker 1: a producing name Noriega in Puerto Rico to I also

2463
02:22:35,360 --> 02:22:38,000
Speaker 1: hate you. I just want to throw that out there.

2464
02:22:38,000 --> 02:22:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't know when this episode is gonna come out,

2465
02:22:40,360 --> 02:22:43,879
Speaker 1: but you know, one of five in New York City,

2466
02:22:44,360 --> 02:22:47,040
Speaker 1: DJ nor what the fund is your problem? Like? Why?

2467
02:22:47,520 --> 02:22:52,879
Speaker 1: Like my I fucking fo yeah for this. It's talking

2468
02:22:52,879 --> 02:22:56,440
Speaker 1: about it like you're gonna be in Russell sim or Russell.

2469
02:22:56,760 --> 02:22:59,720
Speaker 1: You didn't, you didn't you chose to eat eat our

2470
02:23:00,000 --> 02:23:03,359
Speaker 1: of your name be Russ. So this is an extinctive

2471
02:23:03,760 --> 02:23:07,080
Speaker 1: Like I didn't even want to be Noriega. So I've

2472
02:23:07,200 --> 02:23:09,720
Speaker 1: written vin Nori and then you're gonna take my name.

2473
02:23:10,040 --> 02:23:14,680
Speaker 1: I've never liked it you. He's gonna be honest. I

2474
02:23:14,800 --> 02:23:16,640
Speaker 1: know I've seen you in Prower one on five. I

2475
02:23:16,680 --> 02:23:18,840
Speaker 1: don't gonna be fake too. I've learned how to be

2476
02:23:18,920 --> 02:23:21,680
Speaker 1: fake as well, because I was like up about this ship.

2477
02:23:21,879 --> 02:23:27,360
Speaker 1: I hadn't learned. I hadn't. I had seven lawsuits. They say, right,

2478
02:23:27,400 --> 02:23:30,360
Speaker 1: they say this will teach you to be a better criminal.

2479
02:23:31,160 --> 02:23:34,840
Speaker 1: The music business teachers. You have to be paid. That's

2480
02:23:34,879 --> 02:23:38,240
Speaker 1: why the longer you spend in it, the ones you

2481
02:23:38,360 --> 02:23:42,480
Speaker 1: pop out of it. That's why I don't frolic any

2482
02:23:43,480 --> 02:23:50,800
Speaker 1: I stay at my house. So wait, hold on, this

2483
02:23:50,920 --> 02:23:55,760
Speaker 1: is can't be the end. Back down. I'm not gonna

2484
02:23:56,480 --> 02:24:02,680
Speaker 1: let Okay, you're that's a human should be. Now we

2485
02:24:03,560 --> 02:24:05,320
Speaker 1: come on, come on. What you want to talk about?

2486
02:24:05,600 --> 02:24:08,040
Speaker 1: What I'm saying that I don't do this? What you

2487
02:24:08,080 --> 02:24:10,240
Speaker 1: want to what you want? I want to get something

2488
02:24:10,280 --> 02:24:15,840
Speaker 1: with your chat? Yeah, let me just tell you something.

2489
02:24:15,959 --> 02:24:20,840
Speaker 1: Let me just be honest with you. Um, what you

2490
02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:26,640
Speaker 1: have done is a blueprint. The reason why people not

2491
02:24:26,800 --> 02:24:31,480
Speaker 1: watched everything, the reason why people it's because you're the first. Yeah,

2492
02:24:32,200 --> 02:24:35,000
Speaker 1: and when you're the first you ever remember on Instagram

2493
02:24:35,440 --> 02:24:40,120
Speaker 1: you're the first first, but if you ever look at

2494
02:24:40,160 --> 02:24:44,920
Speaker 1: the comments that people say to them, it's horrible because

2495
02:24:44,920 --> 02:24:50,600
Speaker 1: they say sucking motherfucker. But at first, being the first

2496
02:24:50,720 --> 02:24:53,760
Speaker 1: was was a good ship. But this is what happened.

2497
02:24:53,800 --> 02:24:56,280
Speaker 1: So this is the reason why, because I look at

2498
02:24:58,080 --> 02:25:00,360
Speaker 1: I looked at everything, and I was like, like, yo,

2499
02:25:00,600 --> 02:25:05,600
Speaker 1: you know what I think he doesn't understand because this

2500
02:25:05,720 --> 02:25:09,480
Speaker 1: is what I feel. I feel like you accept being

2501
02:25:09,560 --> 02:25:12,640
Speaker 1: hated to a certain extent, but you don't really want to.

2502
02:25:12,920 --> 02:25:16,360
Speaker 1: But but the thing is, because you're so new at

2503
02:25:16,400 --> 02:25:20,920
Speaker 1: what you're doing, is it comes with the territory. It's

2504
02:25:21,040 --> 02:25:25,279
Speaker 1: fucked up, but it's gonna come. It's gonna be another

2505
02:25:25,400 --> 02:25:28,440
Speaker 1: rest it comes. Go on, let me just hit me out.

2506
02:25:28,600 --> 02:25:30,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be another rest that comes. And then by

2507
02:25:30,680 --> 02:25:33,440
Speaker 1: the third or fourth Russ, you're gonna be like, You're

2508
02:25:33,440 --> 02:25:37,360
Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, ship, I what I received, what

2509
02:25:37,520 --> 02:25:40,880
Speaker 1: you received was so light compared to what they're going

2510
02:25:42,000 --> 02:25:44,920
Speaker 1: because they might have more success than you, or even

2511
02:25:45,040 --> 02:25:47,200
Speaker 1: just as much success to you, but they're gonna have

2512
02:25:47,360 --> 02:25:51,200
Speaker 1: so much more hate because you were the first one.

2513
02:25:51,720 --> 02:25:57,480
Speaker 1: It's like Jesus Anhing without Judas so you have like

2514
02:25:58,120 --> 02:26:02,160
Speaker 1: Jesus story wouldn't even be ill without Judas. I don't know,

2515
02:26:04,240 --> 02:26:12,600
Speaker 1: can Yeah. One of the greatest Nipsey verses ever is

2516
02:26:12,680 --> 02:26:15,200
Speaker 1: on if you got the marathon, it was I don't

2517
02:26:15,240 --> 02:26:16,960
Speaker 1: give a funk now. If you had to wait to

2518
02:26:17,040 --> 02:26:19,160
Speaker 1: catch on them later, then the song was called Bigger

2519
02:26:19,160 --> 02:26:22,600
Speaker 1: than Life. But uh, I don't want your help, Just

2520
02:26:22,760 --> 02:26:24,640
Speaker 1: let me something through this. The world would not know

2521
02:26:24,840 --> 02:26:27,640
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ if there was never Judius. And the knight

2522
02:26:27,720 --> 02:26:30,320
Speaker 1: that's in my back could be the truth that introduce us.

2523
02:26:30,959 --> 02:26:33,720
Speaker 1: The distance in between us is the proof of my conclusions.

2524
02:26:35,879 --> 02:26:38,480
Speaker 1: But to say the world would not know Jesus Christ

2525
02:26:38,560 --> 02:26:40,840
Speaker 1: if there was never Judas and the knight that's in

2526
02:26:40,959 --> 02:26:44,560
Speaker 1: my back could be the truth that introduced us. That's

2527
02:26:44,600 --> 02:26:49,760
Speaker 1: fucking like all that that that explains his whole death

2528
02:26:49,920 --> 02:26:55,080
Speaker 1: is its ship. Who do you get killed by one

2529
02:26:55,120 --> 02:26:58,960
Speaker 1: of his home? So the world would not know Jesus Christ,

2530
02:26:59,280 --> 02:27:01,760
Speaker 1: Nipsey if they're was never Judas, and the knife that's

2531
02:27:01,800 --> 02:27:03,920
Speaker 1: in my back meaning I gotta stopped by my own

2532
02:27:04,000 --> 02:27:07,200
Speaker 1: people could be the truth that introduced us because once

2533
02:27:07,320 --> 02:27:10,120
Speaker 1: he got stabbed in the back by Judas, the word

2534
02:27:10,200 --> 02:27:15,000
Speaker 1: is now introduced Nipsey Hustle. I'm telling you he's become Jesus.

2535
02:27:15,120 --> 02:27:16,640
Speaker 1: And now if you want to go deeper, Jesus that

2536
02:27:16,800 --> 02:27:20,120
Speaker 1: a thirty three nity. I believe that too. I'm a

2537
02:27:20,160 --> 02:27:24,240
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist. I believe that all my body for a reason.

2538
02:27:25,160 --> 02:27:27,680
Speaker 1: So that's the reason why me to you. To you,

2539
02:27:30,200 --> 02:27:33,520
Speaker 1: I feel like as great as you are as an artist,

2540
02:27:33,560 --> 02:27:35,440
Speaker 1: and you're going to continue to be great as an artist,

2541
02:27:35,720 --> 02:27:41,040
Speaker 1: your actual gift is being a businessman. So you have

2542
02:27:41,200 --> 02:27:43,600
Speaker 1: to open a business. Not to give you any business.

2543
02:27:43,920 --> 02:27:45,920
Speaker 1: You've made a lot more money than me, trust me,

2544
02:27:46,480 --> 02:27:50,000
Speaker 1: just just anybody. But the thing is, I'm doing people

2545
02:27:50,080 --> 02:27:53,560
Speaker 1: to follow you. People will follow that that format. So

2546
02:27:53,680 --> 02:27:56,760
Speaker 1: the thing is to make your artist, to make your

2547
02:27:56,879 --> 02:28:01,000
Speaker 1: artists those next guys. So now to you be cup Rockefella.

2548
02:28:01,879 --> 02:28:05,440
Speaker 1: But that's like, that's the the the crazy thing to

2549
02:28:05,520 --> 02:28:07,920
Speaker 1: bounce that I'm dealing with is like number one, I

2550
02:28:07,959 --> 02:28:09,640
Speaker 1: don't want to be too early trying to like do

2551
02:28:09,760 --> 02:28:14,200
Speaker 1: that because you're ready. I want to like not that

2552
02:28:14,280 --> 02:28:16,959
Speaker 1: you're already too early. You're already early. You're already I'm

2553
02:28:16,959 --> 02:28:18,920
Speaker 1: just get already to new techno. I never was of

2554
02:28:19,040 --> 02:28:22,480
Speaker 1: our generation that's fucking you're already. You're already. I just

2555
02:28:22,560 --> 02:28:23,920
Speaker 1: don't want to, like I want to make sure that

2556
02:28:24,520 --> 02:28:28,119
Speaker 1: I got like I got me covered, and I'm kind

2557
02:28:28,160 --> 02:28:30,520
Speaker 1: of like they're like I'm talking like when I'm thirty six,

2558
02:28:31,200 --> 02:28:34,160
Speaker 1: when I'm thirty for sure thirty five, But like I'm

2559
02:28:34,200 --> 02:28:36,520
Speaker 1: not gonna do that to you as an artist, Like

2560
02:28:36,560 --> 02:28:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm not about to split time. I didn't you feel

2561
02:28:39,360 --> 02:28:41,320
Speaker 1: me Like, I'm not about to tell you you'll want

2562
02:28:41,360 --> 02:28:43,240
Speaker 1: to sign you. Like There's been a lot of artists

2563
02:28:43,280 --> 02:28:46,560
Speaker 1: that I fust with early on and I helped, but

2564
02:28:47,040 --> 02:28:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't want anything from it. That's not why I

2565
02:28:49,200 --> 02:28:50,840
Speaker 1: was doing it. It was for the game once getting

2566
02:28:50,840 --> 02:28:53,440
Speaker 1: at the point. So when I'm thirty thirty five, yeah,

2567
02:28:53,560 --> 02:28:56,879
Speaker 1: maybe I'll be like, you know what, yo, pull up?

2568
02:28:56,959 --> 02:28:58,880
Speaker 1: I got like we'll make a whole album whatever it is.

2569
02:28:58,959 --> 02:29:01,480
Speaker 1: But that just not That's not why I'm not right now.

2570
02:29:01,680 --> 02:29:03,520
Speaker 1: But I'm with this because I know you wanted to

2571
02:29:04,200 --> 02:29:06,560
Speaker 1: album for Ross. I know you wanted to do with

2572
02:29:06,640 --> 02:29:11,120
Speaker 1: the albums fucking album which would be phenomenal. I kept

2573
02:29:11,160 --> 02:29:13,320
Speaker 1: listening to your beat, and I kept listening to Wolf's

2574
02:29:13,480 --> 02:29:17,560
Speaker 1: cadences and all that, but the thing is in hip hop.

2575
02:29:18,040 --> 02:29:21,680
Speaker 1: We don't owe nobody nothing, but we owe somebody everything. Yeah,

2576
02:29:22,000 --> 02:29:24,640
Speaker 1: we like you owe me nothing, I owe you nothing,

2577
02:29:24,760 --> 02:29:28,400
Speaker 1: but we owe each other everything. Isn't that that's what

2578
02:29:28,840 --> 02:29:31,600
Speaker 1: That's what fox me up. That's what. That's what fox

2579
02:29:31,680 --> 02:29:34,720
Speaker 1: me up. Like I can't charge I can't charge none

2580
02:29:34,760 --> 02:29:36,840
Speaker 1: of these old niggs that be asked me for verses

2581
02:29:36,920 --> 02:29:44,920
Speaker 1: right now, like I've never charged. I just I've never

2582
02:29:45,040 --> 02:29:48,920
Speaker 1: charged anyone. I never charged and I never would. You

2583
02:29:49,000 --> 02:29:51,280
Speaker 1: know why, because but now to drink, chance to work

2584
02:29:51,320 --> 02:29:53,200
Speaker 1: I got, I'm free. You know what it is for

2585
02:29:53,360 --> 02:29:55,560
Speaker 1: anybody who would catch me. You know what it is?

2586
02:29:56,760 --> 02:29:59,680
Speaker 1: That is that I've never charged anyone for a verse,

2587
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:03,960
Speaker 1: and I never would because my perspective is that if

2588
02:30:04,000 --> 02:30:05,760
Speaker 1: I feel like I gotta charge you for a verse,

2589
02:30:06,160 --> 02:30:09,520
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be doing the first mm you know. So

2590
02:30:09,800 --> 02:30:12,640
Speaker 1: I only do verses for people that like I folk with.

2591
02:30:12,760 --> 02:30:15,160
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna sound along it like it represents

2592
02:30:15,240 --> 02:30:18,560
Speaker 1: myself correctly sonically an artist wise like, and I'll do it.

2593
02:30:18,600 --> 02:30:21,760
Speaker 1: I don't give it like, but that's the financial freedom

2594
02:30:21,800 --> 02:30:23,720
Speaker 1: of having a tune core that pays out every week,

2595
02:30:23,879 --> 02:30:26,840
Speaker 1: like I've been able to turn down good bags because

2596
02:30:26,879 --> 02:30:30,080
Speaker 1: they were bad looks. But when you're broke a good bag,

2597
02:30:30,200 --> 02:30:33,800
Speaker 1: is it good? Look? You feel me? That was hard

2598
02:30:34,000 --> 02:30:42,960
Speaker 1: community for that, But that's beautiful. That's beautiful right things

2599
02:30:43,080 --> 02:30:46,080
Speaker 1: right there, because Fat Joe told me that one time.

2600
02:30:46,200 --> 02:30:50,840
Speaker 1: Fat Joe said, I'm looking at Fat Joe. He said,

2601
02:30:51,320 --> 02:30:54,280
Speaker 1: damn Nori, And I said, what's up is that everybody

2602
02:30:54,360 --> 02:30:57,080
Speaker 1: gave me so many free verses. I can't even charge

2603
02:30:57,200 --> 02:31:02,680
Speaker 1: anybody ever. Yeah, And I was like, fun, why did

2604
02:31:02,760 --> 02:31:05,200
Speaker 1: you tell me that? Because what you're doing like that,

2605
02:31:05,360 --> 02:31:11,800
Speaker 1: you like, it's it's fucking That's what it's about, though,

2606
02:31:12,480 --> 02:31:14,240
Speaker 1: It's about doing ships to the love of the game.

2607
02:31:14,280 --> 02:31:16,640
Speaker 1: And I feel like I feel like when you when

2608
02:31:16,680 --> 02:31:20,640
Speaker 1: you detached from expecting something like put like this because

2609
02:31:20,640 --> 02:31:23,360
Speaker 1: you get like two the show. That's what I'm hearing

2610
02:31:24,160 --> 02:31:28,200
Speaker 1: something like that, because he said his record and being

2611
02:31:28,240 --> 02:31:34,200
Speaker 1: honest put it like this, right. If you if people

2612
02:31:34,280 --> 02:31:36,560
Speaker 1: only pull up on you, if there's a check involved,

2613
02:31:37,080 --> 02:31:38,600
Speaker 1: it just lets you know how they feel about you.

2614
02:31:39,480 --> 02:31:45,600
Speaker 1: You are not you. You are a check so movement. Yeah,

2615
02:31:45,680 --> 02:31:48,600
Speaker 1: you're like, you're no different data prostitute. You're just a

2616
02:31:48,720 --> 02:31:53,119
Speaker 1: sonic prostitute. I'm using you for the beat, because when

2617
02:31:53,160 --> 02:31:55,360
Speaker 1: you you pull up with a bitch, yo, what's the

2618
02:31:55,400 --> 02:31:58,360
Speaker 1: pussy at that you pull up with with the producer

2619
02:31:58,600 --> 02:32:01,640
Speaker 1: who you're only like because he is fift the ways

2620
02:32:01,680 --> 02:32:05,640
Speaker 1: to be that same ship like pop it open, pause,

2621
02:32:05,760 --> 02:32:07,480
Speaker 1: But that's what it is, you know what I mean.

2622
02:32:07,600 --> 02:32:10,480
Speaker 1: So that's never going to be the realist chemistry. You're

2623
02:32:10,480 --> 02:32:12,200
Speaker 1: never going to get the best type of music. So

2624
02:32:12,840 --> 02:32:16,160
Speaker 1: I just feel like my career and everything is based

2625
02:32:16,240 --> 02:32:18,680
Speaker 1: off of me playing for the love of the game,

2626
02:32:19,280 --> 02:32:21,480
Speaker 1: me playing because I like to make music so much

2627
02:32:21,520 --> 02:32:22,920
Speaker 1: to the fact that I think I can do it,

2628
02:32:23,560 --> 02:32:26,520
Speaker 1: and so I do it. So you don't mean yeah,

2629
02:32:26,600 --> 02:32:30,880
Speaker 1: but I did at first. At first, I did everybody

2630
02:32:30,959 --> 02:32:32,680
Speaker 1: can't be a producer rap because a lot of these

2631
02:32:32,760 --> 02:32:35,400
Speaker 1: niggas is trashed out here. But no, no, they are not.

2632
02:32:35,640 --> 02:32:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah they are, but you know what I actually could

2633
02:32:37,959 --> 02:32:45,720
Speaker 1: be hold on But like hold one, you see, you

2634
02:32:45,800 --> 02:32:49,480
Speaker 1: see what you see, what's sucked up, And I agree,

2635
02:32:50,000 --> 02:32:54,800
Speaker 1: But at the same time I disagree, not because I disagree,

2636
02:32:54,800 --> 02:32:57,560
Speaker 1: because the reality is that that you know, you're not

2637
02:32:57,760 --> 02:33:00,160
Speaker 1: ill or you're not fired, you don't have talent. That's

2638
02:33:00,200 --> 02:33:04,160
Speaker 1: too much of a locked into the present day. Definitive moment. Statement,

2639
02:33:04,800 --> 02:33:06,879
Speaker 1: you think that tomorrow doesn't exist? What if I'm better

2640
02:33:06,920 --> 02:33:08,800
Speaker 1: by tomorrow all of a sudden, You're a statement doesn't

2641
02:33:08,840 --> 02:33:11,040
Speaker 1: make any sense because if someone told me that I

2642
02:33:11,240 --> 02:33:14,040
Speaker 1: was shipped at making beats at fourteen, and I believe,

2643
02:33:14,200 --> 02:33:19,440
Speaker 1: and I even I internalize their opinion to God, make

2644
02:33:19,520 --> 02:33:24,760
Speaker 1: a noise, I'll because the world camera's left. You got

2645
02:33:24,879 --> 02:33:26,760
Speaker 1: to get a picture and you can hang out with us.

2646
02:33:27,760 --> 02:33:32,959
Speaker 1: I'm like getting into my show. If I can't keep talking,

2647
02:33:33,080 --> 02:33:39,800
Speaker 1: I want to keep talking about seventeen pisces pictures we

2648
02:33:39,840 --> 02:33:44,240
Speaker 1: can read. Yo. Man, let me tell you something. Your

2649
02:33:44,280 --> 02:33:53,640
Speaker 1: spirit is so fucking oh man yea