1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Crime alert. I mean see grace breaking crime is now 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: our Jennifer Gould standing by Jennifer Nancy. 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 2: The chilling secrets of convicted Idaho killer Brian Coberger are 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: spilling out in hundreds of newly unsealed documents, revealing a 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 2: disturbing portrait of a predator obsessed with murder, parapet i 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: remand that itvented to the custody of the Auto State Board. 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Of Corrections for to be imprisoned, and an appropriate. 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: Facility and execution of the sentence where he will remain 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: until he dies. Following his life sentence for the brutal 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: stabbings of four University of Idaho students, authorities have begun 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: to unveil a trove of investigative reports that detail a 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: terrifying pre murder break in, a shocking conversation with a 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: tender match, and a relentless pattern of stalker like behavior 14 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: that predated the killings. Among the most bone chilling revelations 15 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: is an account from a woman who met with Coburger 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: on Tinder in the fall of twenty twenty two. She 17 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: told investigators that the criminology PhD student asked her what 18 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: she thought would be the worst way to die. When 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 2: she replied, quote unquote by a knife, he immediately referenced 20 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: a k bar knife, the same brand prosecutors say he 21 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: purchased and used in the killings. Disturbed by his fixation, 22 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 2: the woman immediately stopped contact. The documents also reveal an 23 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: unsettling twenty twenty one break in at the victim's home, 24 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: where housemates returned to find their front door damaged and open. 25 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 2: They armed themselves with golf clubs, but found no one inside. 26 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: Weeks before the murders, a roommate recalled Kayleie Gounsalvaz, mentioning 27 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: a quote unquote shadowy figure watching her, and also reported 28 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: feeling followed. The documents also paint a disturbing picture of 29 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: Coburger's behavior before the November thirteen, twenty twenty two murders. 30 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: A WSU teaching assistant noticed a large scratch on Coburger's 31 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: face resembling fingernail marks, and wounds on his knuckles just 32 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: weeks before the killings. Coburger claimed they were from a 33 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: car accident, a story investigators found no record of. The 34 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: teaching assistant also reported that Coburger attempted to use his 35 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: role to inappropriately interact with female students. The crime scene itself, 36 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: as described in the documents, was harrowing. Sana Kernodle suffered 37 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: over fifty stab wounds, many defensive, indicating a fierce struggle. 38 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: Ethan Chapin's blood oozed out of the house, and Kaylee 39 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: Gonsalvas's face was disfigured from her injuries, and the blood 40 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: soaked scene left victims nearly unrecognizable. Investigators found that Coburger's 41 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: cell phone pinged near the victim's home nearly two dozen 42 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: times in the months prior, often during late night or 43 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: or early morning hours. He also wiped data from his devices, 44 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: but kept screenshots of news coverage, suggesting an obsession with 45 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: the cases publicity. The release of these documents, facilitated by 46 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: the lifting of a year's long gag order, has sparked 47 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: public interest and debate. As the legal window for an 48 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: appeal remains open, Judge Stephen Hipler is expected to decide 49 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: on unsealing additional records, potentially even including victim photographs. However, 50 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: many questions remain unanswered, including Coburger's motive, which investigators say 51 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: may never be known. For the latest Crime and Justice 52 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: news watch crime stories with Nancy Grace on Merit TV 53 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: Monday through Friday, seven pm Eastern. Check local listings for 54 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: channel assignment, and follow crime stories with Nancy Grace on 55 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: your favorite podcast aff Nancy. 56 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: Thanks Jennifer more crime and justice news. After this. 57 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: Thank and online dating hopels meet up in Florida turned 58 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: into a tragic nightmare after he vanished without a trace, 59 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: only to be found weeks later. As skeletal remains, the 60 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: heartbroken family of Nicholas Anderson, a twenty four year old 61 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 2: from Atlanta, is demanding answers. The tragic saga began when Anderson, 62 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: who was on medication for schizophrenia, traveled to Jacksonville, Florida, 63 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: to meet a man he'd been corresponding with online, but 64 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 2: the young man never boarded his bus back home to Georgia, 65 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 2: prompting his worried family to travel to Florida to track 66 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: down the man he saw. Anderson's aunt, Monica Tucker, says 67 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: the man's story changed repeatedly when questions she spoke to 68 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: Eleven Alive. 69 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: First, he said he didn't see him, Then he said 70 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: he took them he went to the hotel to watch movies, 71 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: and then he said he took them to cigarettes, and 72 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: then he kept saying something about he wanted to go 73 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: to the pier. 74 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: Despite the man's shifting story, he has since been cleared 75 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: by police, a fact that has done little to quell 76 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: the family's suspicions. Weeks after Anderson went missing, authorities found 77 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: skeletal remains near a private residence on the Saint John's River. 78 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: The remains discovered on May seventh were not positively id'd 79 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: as Anderson's until August first. His aunt is convinced he 80 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 2: did not die by suicide or drowning. She believes he 81 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: was the victim of a crime. The Clay County Sheriff's 82 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: Office is still seeking information about Anderson's activities from April 83 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: first to April seventh, and has offered a five thousand 84 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: dollars reward for any tips leading to an arrest. Those 85 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: with information are asked to call nine zero four two 86 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: six four sixty five twelve and finally, forget your alarm system. 87 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: One woman had a real life superhero right next door. 88 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: A Lawrence, Kansas man named Austin Netherton heard a struggle 89 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: punched in his door code, and instead of calling nine 90 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: one one, just went for it. This good samaritan also 91 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 2: happens to be a trained jiu jitsu fighter. Austin spoke 92 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: to Fox four News. 93 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: I trained jiu jitsu. 94 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: It's been a little bit since I've been in the gym, 95 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: but it's not it's like riding a bike. Austin jumped 96 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: through the window and grappled with the attacker, holding him 97 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: in a chokehold until cops arrived. The intruder, who had 98 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: allegedly broken in and tried to pretend he was a cop, 99 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: was arrested and later accused of battering a hospital employee 100 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 2: somewhere else. Netherton humbly credits his coaches and being in 101 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: the quote right place at the right time for the 102 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 2: dramatic takedown. We will just call it jiu jitsu Justice Nancy. 103 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: For the latest crime injustice news, go to crime online 104 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: dot com and please join us for our daily podcast, 105 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: Crime Stories, where we do our best define missing people, 106 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: especially children, and helped solve unsolved homicides With this crime alert, 107 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace TI