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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Bachler.

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Speaker 2: Hath the Arm Joe and I'm Serena.

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Speaker 1: For today's episode, we are going to, like always recap

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Speaker 1: the Golden Bacher. We have overnights, we have a lot

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Speaker 1: of sex jokes, so we'll talk about that because there

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Speaker 1: are two women left. And then we are going to

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Speaker 1: recap Paradise. And we have two guests coming on this week,

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Speaker 1: both from Bachelor and Paradise, and both were very much

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Speaker 1: involved in this week's episode, especially Blake Moyne's at the end,

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Speaker 1: so he will be coming on. And then we also

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Speaker 1: have Rachel, which I can't wait to ask Rachel about

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Speaker 1: what the deal was with her and Tanner because I

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Speaker 1: found that to be odd.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's been jumping around the beach a little bit,

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Speaker 3: so we've got a lot to chat with her about

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Speaker 3: about a couple of her different relationships. Blake, on the

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Speaker 3: other hand, has really been locked on just the whole time.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't seem to be working either.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into it because honestly, it just seems like

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Speaker 1: at this point there's a lot of people that are

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Speaker 1: just there.

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Speaker 2: You know, and like versus not being there.

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Speaker 1: No versus like being in a relationship that is on

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Speaker 1: pace to potentially get engaged totally. Okay, so let's recap.

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Speaker 1: Let's recap Golden.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, Fantasy Suitees Big Week.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the number one question for every Fantasy

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Speaker 3: Suite Week, especially this one, is are they going to

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Speaker 3: have sex? And that was the main theme of the episode.

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Speaker 3: Open with Jesse and Gary chatting about the ladies and intimacy,

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Speaker 3: and I think Jesse asked, are you going to be

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Speaker 3: intimate with these women?

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Speaker 2: And Gary said, well, what does intimacy mean?

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Speaker 1: Are we going in chronological order?

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Speaker 2: You want to go out of order?

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Speaker 1: In order?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? In order?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So we're in Costa Rica.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in Costa Rica.

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Speaker 1: But you didn't say that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, so sorry, so sorry.

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Speaker 3: This chat takes place on the beautiful beaches of Coastreet again.

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Speaker 3: We opened to Jesse and Gary sitting in two chairs

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Speaker 3: facing one another.

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Speaker 1: Also, how beautiful did Costa Rica look?

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Speaker 3: It's gorgeous. I would love to go to Costa Rica,

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Speaker 3: but I'm nervous about all the bugs. Apparently you have

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Speaker 3: to like shake up your shoes before you put them

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Speaker 3: on because like critters will sneak in.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's an issue.

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Speaker 2: Same issue with like Australia for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't do well with insects in this household.

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Speaker 2: No, we don't.

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Speaker 3: But Jesse's like, what's gonna go down in the fantasy suites?

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Speaker 3: Are we making babies?

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Speaker 1: And the first time I think all season we've seen

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Speaker 1: Jesse kind of break a few times he did.

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Speaker 3: He was like a little nervous and uncomfortable having this

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Speaker 3: conversation with Gary, which I like. I like seeing those

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Speaker 3: moments because he's always like in his professional host mode

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Speaker 3: and you could tell he was kind of like and

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Speaker 3: Gary called him out. He was like, you looked away.

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Speaker 3: Gary's like, what are you nervous about? Like old people

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Speaker 3: still knock boots, which was funny. Were you surprised by

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Speaker 3: this or did you think he was gonna be like

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Speaker 3: more conservative with his answers?

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Speaker 1: Gary? Yeah, no, I figured he was gonna I thought

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Speaker 1: he was gonna have fun with it. He does say

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Speaker 1: later in the episode that it's nobody's f and business.

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Speaker 2: Yeah tell him, Yery, tell people.

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Speaker 1: But like, I mean, this is what this episode is

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Speaker 1: all about, right, It's all about overnight and what happened

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Speaker 1: during overnight.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so we got the first overnight date.

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Speaker 3: We've got Leslie, they have like an overcoming feardic situation

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Speaker 3: where they do cliff repelling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Leslie, I just I was just looking at my

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Speaker 1: notes real quick. So yeah, it's it seems it seems

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Speaker 1: that what is to say Leslie is so so sick

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Speaker 1: of being alone because she is. That's what she said.

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Speaker 1: And it does. I mean, watching it, it seems like Teresa.

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Speaker 1: And like, in Gary's defense, like Teresa isn't there, but

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Speaker 1: it just doesn't. It seems like he is gonna choose less.

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Speaker 1: I even wrote like Gary, like you're almost saying you're

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Speaker 1: You're not almost, You're saying a little too much.

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Speaker 3: Well, the way, so they have their date activity, that's

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Speaker 3: all great, and then we move into the night portion.

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Speaker 3: Just the way this date is going. I really would

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Speaker 3: not have been surprised if Gary sentreesa home the next day,

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Speaker 3: like he's like, you're my girl, I love you. You're

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Speaker 3: the one, you know. He quotes Trista again, picked the

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Speaker 3: woman you can't live without. He tells Leslie she's that

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Speaker 3: woman like or sorry, yeah, Teresa is like not even

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Speaker 3: that she is not in Gary Trista line.

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Speaker 1: I also no offense to Trista up and I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: sure that's been on like a Hallmark card for for

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Speaker 1: years prior.

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Speaker 2: You don't think she she made that one up.

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Speaker 3: But if you did, Trista, you better you've better get

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Speaker 3: the rights to that quote because it's been used a lot.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't know, what do you think? I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like Leslie said, they have a little sex. Chat's like,

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Speaker 2: when was the last time you had sex?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, what was his timeline?

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Speaker 2: He said, he didn't give a timeline.

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Speaker 3: She said, it's been a year, and he said it's

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Speaker 3: been it's been a while, it's been a long time.

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Speaker 2: So what that means, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But and then Leslie's like, I'm ready to do death

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Speaker 3: do us Part, which I thought.

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Speaker 2: Was really nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think Leslie Leslie's like she said, like

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Speaker 1: she's kind of been like waiting her whole, her whole

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Speaker 2: I literally have my notes Gary better century so home tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Because that's how like, that's how much was happening between

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Speaker 3: the two of them, That's how much was being said

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Speaker 3: between the two of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think they had sex?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, well, we both said after we watch it

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Speaker 1: that in the morning. The morning segment after put the

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Speaker 1: potential sex, Leslie did seem off.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, the the morning was something was weird. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if something happened, or honestly, they might

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Speaker 3: have just been really hired and she might have just

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Speaker 3: been like, I don't feel like filming right now. I

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Speaker 3: want to go back to bed because those are really

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Speaker 3: long nights in early mornings. But there wasn't like they

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Speaker 3: weren't sitting close to each other. The body language seemed weird.

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Speaker 3: Gary seemed okay, but like Leslie on, Leslie seemed upset

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Speaker 2: Like the energy was not great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember like watching it. I I it seemed

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Speaker 1: as though like maybe he had, you know, brought up

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Speaker 1: the fact that Teresa stands a really good chance. But

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Speaker 1: then my mind change changes. At the beginning of the

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Speaker 2: Well this is my take, all right, I think.

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Speaker 3: Leslie and we know, like Leslie, I think is like

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Speaker 3: a fan of the show, or she's watched the show, whatever.

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Speaker 3: But I think Leslie thought that there was gonna be

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Speaker 3: and if I'm Leslie and he's saying like you're my

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Speaker 2: A overnight with Teresa? Gary? Like why do you need

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Speaker 3: And I think Gary is not closed off to Teresa,

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Speaker 2: And I think she's at her breaking point a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I think that's where the tension comes from.

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Speaker 3: But that is just my guess off of like one

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Speaker 1: Leslie almost reminded me like her her vibe in the

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Speaker 1: morning was almost giving. Rachel in Zach do you remember that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's actually a good comparison for listeners. Rachel Rekkia,

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Speaker 3: who we're having on from Paradise when she was the

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Speaker 3: bachelor at Zach the former bachelor there.

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Speaker 2: Overnight date did not go great.

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Speaker 1: But maybe we're wrong.

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Speaker 3: So you agree, you agree, like something was off and

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Speaker 3: it felt like Leslie was the one who the negative

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but but what you said before, you probably, I

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Speaker 1: mean odds are they probably got She probably got an

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Speaker 1: hour of sleep and was probably just like I don't

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 3: The only reason I think that there's something more is

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Speaker 3: like their attention, like I there's no denying it. But

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Speaker 3: we don't really get any answers on that. So who knows?

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Speaker 3: Who knows if we're reading into something here? Date number

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Speaker 3: two we've got Teresa starts off rough.

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Speaker 1: Starts off rough. And this is why I think I'm

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Speaker 1: potentially we're we're wrong about him saying anything to Leslie

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Speaker 1: about Teresa, Like Teresa, Teresa said, as around horses, this

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Speaker 1: is the worst date, like ever?

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Speaker 2: Did she say that?

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Speaker 1: She said that?

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Speaker 2: She said, I mean, I know she was like not thrilled.

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Speaker 2: I mean I wouldn't be either.

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Speaker 1: You know, he said this date is so so boring.

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Speaker 2: Well it did look boring.

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Speaker 3: I mean he he looked really in his head, you

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Speaker 3: see a clipper. She like calls to him, like doesn't

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Speaker 3: even answer her. He's in front of her, she's behind him,

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Speaker 3: which like remember on the ATV date with him and Leslie,

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Speaker 3: like he let her like go up ahead?

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Speaker 2: Was it was it? Leslie?

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Speaker 1: I think?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, you want to Yeah, and he was like

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Speaker 3: and Teresa's like, hello, I'm here, and.

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Speaker 2: She's like fair enough to her. She's like, this is

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Speaker 2: a really important date for me, and this is a

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Speaker 1: Yeah to me watching it, watching it, it seems like

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Speaker 1: Gary has made up his mind. He's choosing Leslie, doesn't

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Speaker 1: even want to really be on this date with Teresa, and.

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Speaker 3: He keeps saying like I keep thinking about Leslie. I

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Speaker 3: have somethinking about Leslie. Whereas like he didn't even mention

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Speaker 3: Teresa on his date with Leslie.

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Speaker 1: Yep. And then they go to dinner and something happens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a there's an evident shift, yeah, in his

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Speaker 3: like how engaging he is with Teresa and just like

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Speaker 3: I don't know, well.

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Speaker 1: A, I'm shocked that he didn't even know what she did.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the shift where I think we're both referring to.

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Speaker 3: Is Gary said like I think you should tell me,

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Speaker 3: like what you do for work, And Joe and I

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Speaker 3: you mean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not like not crazy and like what are you

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Speaker 3: I really was like, it's Leslie, Like that's his girl.

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Speaker 1: we really don't know. It could It's not like I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not either. I'm just way more torn now

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it really did, like after the Leslie date.

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Speaker 1: It's really hard to think that he's not going to

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Speaker 3: I'm so intrigued. I'm really curious to see how this

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Speaker 2: Have we seen any teaser of him like holding a ring? No, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm really fixated on that.

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Speaker 1: But like, I mean, we have seen him say multiple

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, We've seen that clip in every teaser for

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious. I'm curious to see what that he's

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Speaker 1: let's get into Paradise.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Ready, got to pull up Paradise notes, pull them up? Yeah, Paradise. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise. First things first, we see Michael takes

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I think the date with Olivia Michael went great.

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Speaker 3: I'm really happy he took her. I'm really happy for her. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But I thought they were really cute and I hope

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Speaker 1: I really liked her this episode me too, especially during.

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Speaker 3: The rows, and I actually feel like, and I'm not

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Speaker 3: but I just think I'm waiting for her to like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to get a judge on

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Speaker 1: the season. It's always tough when new people come in

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Speaker 1: Rachel's first date card on her season of The Bachelor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Joe was calling for him to be the

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Speaker 1: This is crazy.

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Speaker 3: You were just like, I wouldn't be surprised, it'd be

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Speaker 3: race car driver, Like they should make him the next Bachelor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they didn't.

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Speaker 2: They didn't. No, no, And now he's here on Paradise

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Speaker 2: try to date Rachel again.

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Speaker 1: He comes down and takes Rachel on a date again.

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Speaker 1: What do you think You think that was a mistake.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I would say it was a mistake.

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Speaker 3: I think, on one hand, like it didn't work out

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Speaker 3: he thinks that this new environment could make things go

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Speaker 3: a different way, then why not. I also think that

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Speaker 2: I don't know. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: No? I agree? I feel like it's like a casino right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why not, Like she singles, He's coming in single, like,

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Speaker 3: let's give this a second chance. They did the tan

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Speaker 1: We'll get into it. Is that that Tanner Rachel thing

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Speaker 3: He seems into her. She just doesn't seem that into him.

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Speaker 3: I think she likes him. I think she gets along

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like they had a good chat and they made out,

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Speaker 3: And then if I'm her like, she's like it sounds

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Speaker 2: Like I would be the same.

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Speaker 3: I'd be like sorry, like we've been hanging out for weeks,

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Speaker 2: I feel like no one's talking to each other. Even

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Speaker 1: Besides even and Kylie, Yeah, they're always together. They seem

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Speaker 2: Like every time we see there together.

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Speaker 1: We see like Aaron being Eliza. He asked like, will

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Speaker 3: to Tanner like, you know, let's let's try, like she

445
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 3: wants to try and see where things can go. Yeah,

446
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,719
Speaker 3: but like she it was kind of a weird conversation,

447
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 3: like she was like I don't know what I want

448
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 3: and he was like, let's try, and she was like, okay, it's.

449
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: Just and also it's like like four people listening, like

450
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 1: it's it's it's late now, like it's late in the game, Like, well, that's.

451
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 3: Kind of probably she's thinking, like we only have so

452
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 3: much time left here, you know, if do I really

453
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 3: want to like dive into something new with this guy

454
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 3: just for it to not work out again? Yeah, because

455
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 3: she's has like kind of like given it a few

456
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 3: shots now, and I think he's still like he really

457
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 3: wants to find someone, like you hear him talk about

458
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 3: it to Rachel, like he wants to find his person.

459
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 2: He's like determined.

460
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: I just don't know what will happen with Davia.

461
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 2: Me too, I can't.

462
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:35,120
Speaker 3: I can't stop think about what happened Davia.

463
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 1: Okay, So then we get a truth box and the

464
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: only think juicy in the truth box was Tyler, everyone

465
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: knows you're not into Mercedes, which does come across that way,

466
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: and after that it's said it comes across like even more. Yeah,

467
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem like Tyler cares no.

468
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 3: Like Mercedes is, Like I think we're just both like

469
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 3: comfortable coasting because like we're both really similar people, and

470
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 3: like I kind of just want to shake her and

471
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 3: be like Mercedes, like, I just don't think he's that

472
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: into I think he likes her, but I think she's

473
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 3: more into him. I don't think he's that into her.

474
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 3: And he says to her like they're talking about like

475
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 3: long distance, like she's clearly trying to have a conversation

476
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 3: to gauge like where the relationship's going, and he's like,

477
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 3: you know, like.

478
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 2: If it works it works, it doesn't, it doesn't. And

479
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: I'm like, so you're just completely indifferent to this girl

480
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: and your relationship at this point.

481
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like there's a lot of.

482
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 3: And then just says that people see them as like

483
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 3: just friends, and like now Mercedes is like kind of

484
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 3: learning that everyone else looks at them as just friends,

485
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 3: which for me, I'm like I would be like I'd

486
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 3: be like, I'm done.

487
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: There's just a lot of people just coasting this season,

488
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 1: it seems like, And I just don't Yeah, I don't know.

489
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: I don't think it's hard.

490
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 3: I think it's hard because it is a lot of

491
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 3: time in a short amount of time. So I think

492
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 3: people think, like you don't know how to feel, like

493
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 3: you don't know what's normal what's not. You don't know

494
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 3: if things are going to get more serious later on

495
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 3: or if they're not. Like there's nothing to compare it to.

496
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 3: It's such a unique situation, Like you can't compare it

497
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 3: to the normal timeline of a relationship. So like Mercedes

498
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 3: might be like, who's to say that, Like things aren't

499
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 3: going great and he's gonna like tell me like he's

500
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: falling in.

501
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 2: Love with me tomorrow, Like I don't know. No, does

502
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 2: that sound crazy?

503
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: Oh it doesn't. Actually, it sounds actually, I think it

504
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: makes perfect sense. I think you're right.

505
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I think she's just like I don't know

506
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 3: what's right or wrong or what trajectory I'm supposed to

507
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: be on here with my relationship, like if I'm behind,

508
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 3: if I'm ahead. And I think it's especially hard this

509
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: season because there's not really a lot of strong couples,

510
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 3: whereas with our season at this point there was like

511
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 3: seven full strong couples and.

512
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: If people could compare, you could compare like.

513
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 3: It was like, oh, I'm not where noahen Abbilgill are.

514
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: I'm not where Becka and Thomas are. Maybe I need

515
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 3: to reevaluate my relationship, Whereas I don't think anyone's feeling

516
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 3: that pressure because no one is that far along.

517
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: Fair. Yeah, great points, that makes sense. Okay, we get

518
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: a double date Avean and Kylie, Pete and Sam and

519
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: it's a fun double date. I like. I like Pete

520
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: and Sam. I actually think I think they're fun together.

521
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: I like them. I we haven't seen like any serious

522
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: conversation between those two, but I like them.

523
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 2: I like them too.

524
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 3: I think they're a good match, and then I wrote

525
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: Avean and Jess in my notes even and Kylie even

526
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: tells Kylie that he's falling in love with her, which

527
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 3: is great. I think that's a great step for them.

528
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 3: They just seem like solid. They seem like they're coasting,

529
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 3: but like in a good way where just they're just

530
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 3: taking things like step by step moving forward.

531
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: Well, they seem they seem into each other at least,

532
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: so that's good. And then we get so the biggest

533
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: part of the episode is Katie Thurston shows up on

534
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: the beach. She pulls Blake to have a conversation or

535
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: they haven't seen each other since they ended their engagement

536
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: over the phone, Yeah, which is rough.

537
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I'm trying to remember that timeline.

538
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: You could tell they both when they're when they when

539
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: she pulled them, you could tell they both definitely had

540
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: strong feelings for each other. I liked them together when

541
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: when it first happened.

542
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 3: When I found out Blake went on Katie's season, I

543
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 3: literally said, like, they're getting engaged. Yeah, Like, I don't

544
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: know who else is on that show, but like, I

545
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 3: feel like they'll end up together engaged.

546
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: But I think the whole point of the conversation really

547
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: like I don't Katie wasn't there to day. She was

548
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: there to host, host, host.

549
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 2: The date, host like a group activity, hope, host.

550
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: A group the same thing like Hannah Brown did. But

551
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: I think the point was really for Blake to finally

552
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: see that he doesn't have a strong connection with Jess

553
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: the way he had with Katie. And I think he

554
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: realized that in the conversation.

555
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 3: I think so too, because at the end of the day,

556
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 3: it was actually it was a really good conversation between

557
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: the two of them. It seemed like and I think

558
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: watching it as much as you know, they're obviously not

559
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 3: in love with each other anymore, they're not still together.

560
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 3: They're broken up for a reason, but you see that

561
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: there was a connection there, and they do have a

562
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 3: flowing conversation that you see that like you, I feel

563
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: like they look like two people and you listen to

564
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: it and you're like, yeah, I kind of get how

565
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: this ended up to you that makes sense, this makes sense.

566
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: You two kind of make sense. And then comparing that

567
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 3: conversation between exes, but four minute conversation between two xes

568
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 3: to every conversation I've seen with Blake and Jess, it

569
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 3: just could not be more obvious that like Blake and

570
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: Jess are not right for each other, Like.

571
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: The the strength of their connection is not there.

572
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: It's just it's just really, I just.

573
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: Don't think that they're that into each other. I think

574
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: they want to be.

575
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: I think they both check all the boxes for each other.

576
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 3: I think they both like each other. But I just

577
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 3: don't even see them like fall for each other.

578
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: No, And I think that's the key. I think that's

579
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: key what you said. I think they both I think

580
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: they both want to be into each other and they're

581
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: just and they're just not. And then so Katie hosts

582
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: like a comedy roast.

583
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: Best joke of the whole roast was Katie's joke about

584
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 3: calling Blake daddy.

585
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, laughing, Well, that was funny. It's funny, And the

586
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: problem with the roast with everyone else besides Katie is

587
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: they're not funny.

588
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: Who did the best? I actually thought Olivia was going

589
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: to go in super hard on cat. Hers were all

590
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: very funny.

591
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember thinking watching being like Olivia is probably

592
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: the only one that's going to be able to pull

593
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: this off because she is funny, and she's and she's slick,

594
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: which could make for a good roast, And honestly, I

595
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: felt like she was nice about everything.

596
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: Where she could she could have taken things further and

597
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: she didn't, because if you take things too far, it

598
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 3: crosses line and it's not funny anymore, which happened a.

599
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: Lot, and that's the problem. They're not comedians, so most

600
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: of them aren't gonna be funny, and we hear the

601
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: guys like it just.

602
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: Goes to show like a lot of them aren't that funny.

603
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: No, and like they're just honestly, they're all very dry.

604
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: Like Aaron B. Aaron B and Tanner we were saying

605
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: jokes and I know they're they're not trying to be mean,

606
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: but that jokes come across mean because they're not delivered

607
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: in a funny way.

608
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, really give Aaron Clancy most of those jokes, and

609
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 3: like his delivery will make them funny because he's just

610
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: kind of.

611
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: Got that, like he's funny.

612
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: He's just funny like naturally.

613
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, like they didn't, like, yeah, they didn't really,

614
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: they just kind of came across a little.

615
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 3: And the pears are so random, like who picked these pairs?

616
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: Like who's who's grouping these people together? But the main

617
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: targets of the Rows were very much just Rachel and

618
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: kat I felt like Jess didn't get it that hard.

619
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: I think she was just in a bad headspace because

620
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: Katie was there, A lot of her jokes were just

621
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 3: about being young, which like she is, she's what twenty three,

622
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: Like I was twenty three on the show. I got

623
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: made fun for being young all the time. Yeah, you're young,

624
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: like you can't change your age, like it is what it.

625
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: Is, Rachel.

626
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: The Rachel Gabby joke that Tanner made was that was

627
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: that was rough. Like when he made that, I was like, oh, nobody,

628
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: what are you doing. You're trying to pursue this girl.

629
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: You just made a joke about like something that's like

630
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: kind of sensitive to her.

631
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: I'm assuming, well, okay, yeah, I know.

632
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: I agree.

633
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,239
Speaker 3: It was rough, Like she even said we saw her

634
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: crying after and she's like, I opened up to him

635
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 3: about things, and I just.

636
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: Don't when everyone's going to participate in a roast, like

637
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: if you are gonna, if you are gonna, you know,

638
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: go and and say some mean shit, like you gotta

639
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: make sure that it's a little funny, because if it

640
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: doesn't land, it is just going to come across hurtful.

641
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: I know that was rough, and then Kat got picked

642
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 3: on quite a bit, but I don't remember anything specific that.

643
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: I was like, oh god, her botox, the bochox one

644
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: was kind of fun and she was like that means

645
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: it's working. Yeah, And I was like, good for her,

646
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: like she she seemed like she was having a hard time,

647
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 3: but at least trying to.

648
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: Laugh at herself. I actually, I feel like the two

649
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: winners of this roast were Olivia and Kat, and I

650
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: really thought they were going to be the ones that

651
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: were going to go into each other, yeah, and we

652
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: were going to see them blow up get mad. So

653
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: the fact that both of them walked away not like

654
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: all worked up about it, I feel phil is a win.

655
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

656
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: And then we end the episode on Blake pulling Jess

657
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 3: aside to have a serious chat, and I think I

658
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: know where this is going. I kind of hope I'm right.

659
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: I feel like their relationship it's it's time to call

660
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: it quits.

661
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: I think that's what's going to happen. But we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to him about it, and obviously he can't spoil it,

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Speaker 1: but it does. Yeah, I mean, it's it seems like

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Speaker 1: they're about to break up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the vibe I'm getting.

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Speaker 3: And I just think him talking to Katie made him realize,

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Speaker 3: Like he even said it, He's like, I spent so

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Speaker 3: much less time with Katie, but it's still it made

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Speaker 3: total sense to me how I ended up feeling the

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Speaker 3: way I did about her, and I've spent so much

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Speaker 3: more time with Jess and I still just can't seem

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Speaker 3: to figure it out.

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Speaker 2: So like that, what does that say?

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Speaker 1: And even Jess said, like when Katie initially grabbed Blake,

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Speaker 1: She's like, I honestly almost feel like leaving now. And

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Speaker 1: it's like, if that's how you feel at this point,

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Speaker 1: that's an issue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So that pretty much wraps We will see what ends

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Speaker 1: up happening.

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Speaker 3: Thank you everyone for tuning in and reminder no new

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Speaker 3: episode of Golden Baucher or a Boucher in Paradise this week.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy your Thanksgiving if you are celebrating, and then make

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Speaker 3: sure to tune in on November thirtieth for the live

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Speaker 3: finale of Golden Bauchler followed by a new episode of

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Speaker 3: Baucher in Paradise.

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Speaker 1: See you next week.

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Speaker 3: Bye