1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Mahomes back throws. It is equally pick off picked up 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 1: by the Lions by Branch with the left side. He's going, baby, 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: He's going to the house. Touch down. Detroit Lions deflected 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: in the air, Branch ran under it, and he took 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: it all the way back. It is Week eight in 6 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: the NFL season, and it's a bounce back week needed 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: for the Detroit Lions. I'm Tim Twentyman. We have PJ Clark. 8 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: This is the twenty in the Huddle podcast and it's 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: the key matchup segment. But as always Peach, we're gonna 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: start with some news and notes. I think health obviously 11 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: is looking better for Detroit. David Montgomery no practice on Thursday. 12 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: Probably more of an after by situation, I think with him, 13 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: a couple guys dealing with some nicks and bruises. Malcolm 14 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: Rodriguez didn't practice Thursday. Benito Jones didn't practice on Thursday. 15 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: We'll kind of see, you know, what their status is 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: leading in. But a majority of the starters back Jerry 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: Jacobs was out on the field. That's obviously good news 18 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: after he missed last week. So health wise, I don't 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: think that's going to be as big of a factor 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: for Detroit as it might be for the for the Raiders. 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're getting Jerry obviously, you know, a weight 22 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: scratch last week against Baltimore, and you saw that Baltimore 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: was able to throw the ball pretty efficiently, especially early 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: in the game. And you know this is a team 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: now in the Raiders, that has two good outside receivers 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: that you're going to have to pay attention to and 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: look at. And Jerry obviously coming back is going to 28 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: be pretty helpful, But especially after a game like what 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: happened in Baltimore, I think being at you know, ninety 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: ninety five percent health is the easiest way to get 31 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: back on the right side of things right now. 32 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: No, one hundred percent. Obviously a bounce back week for Detroit. Look, 33 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: last week was a butt whoompan. It is what it is. 34 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: It happens. I went back and looked of the fourteen 35 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: teams that made the playoffs last year, eight of them 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: suffered a loss of it one loss of at least 37 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: twenty points, and five of those teams had at least 38 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: one of twenty six. So the sky is not happened 39 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: like a San Francisco showed on Monday night, It's hard 40 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: to win on the road in this league, right, I mean, 41 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: it just it is what it is. But I think 42 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: you have to learn from it, and good teams do that. 43 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: They bounce back, they don't stack losses together. And so 44 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: I think this week will tell a lot about the 45 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. 46 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: It's one of those things where, yeah, it can it 47 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: can happen once, but it certainly can't become a habit, 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: and you can't have it happen again now at home. 49 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked about this Monday night game, the 50 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: helmet if you're watching on YouTube, finally gonna be gonna 51 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: be warned. Everybody's excited, fired up. It's gonna be the 52 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: loudest Ford Field has ever been. You can't come out flat, 53 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: got to hit the ground running and everything that Dan 54 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: Campbell has preached, you know, in these two press conferences 55 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: so far. 56 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: This week, I think they're gonna be ready to go. 57 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: Last time Detroit Lions lost a football game Week two 58 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: in overtime against Seattle, next four double ditrich wins aheadally 59 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: bounce back. They've been in this spot before, so we'll 60 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: see if they can do it again on Monday night. 61 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: All Right, Key matchups. You know the drill. We go 62 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: through five of them real quick. Here to me the 63 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: first one. Let's start with the most intriguing one, right, 64 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: It's trick or treat the day before Halloween on Monday, 65 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: and I think Lions, Lions fans and football fans in 66 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: general get a treat when they get to see Penny Sewell, 67 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: Troy Lion's right tackle versus Max Crosby, their terrific two 68 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: time Pro Bowl defensive end, and Max leads the league 69 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: with thirty five hurries. I think he there's nothing he 70 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: can't do. 71 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: It's played a key match up for the year. 72 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: There's no weakness in his game. He's got six and 73 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: a half sacks, the second league in tackle for losses. 74 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: He's got a motor that never quits. I mean, he 75 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: is their guy. And then you look at Piney Sewell. 76 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: All he's done is not allow a Saxon's Week ten 77 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: of last year. No quarterbacks even been hit with him 78 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: on duty this year. Three hurries all year, playing right 79 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: and left tackle. I mean, this is one of the 80 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: best tackles in the league against one of the edge 81 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: one of the best edge rushers in the league. And 82 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: I think football fans are going to benefit for watching 83 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: that one on Yeah. 84 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: I'm excited that the national it gets this. Fel so 85 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: like we talked a couple of weeks ago about Wurfson Hutchinson, 86 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: that was, you know, a little bit more of a 87 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: regional game, a four to twenty five that game on Fox, 88 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: but a regional game. This is ESPN Monday Night Football. 89 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: Everybody knows where ninety eight is on the field, and 90 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: everybody is going to be waiting to see him across 91 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: from fifty eight in silver. And I'm I'm really excited 92 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: that you said everything. With Crosby leading, leading in pressures, 93 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: six and a half sacks, the thing to me is 94 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: he's played more snaps than any edge rusher over the 95 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: last three years. Guy never comes off the field ninety 96 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 2: seven percent of snatch. 97 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,559 Speaker 1: It was how hard he rushes and how he never quits. 98 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: I mean, guys ahead as Guy absolutely grinds out there. 99 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: And you're going up against, like you said, Padesua, who 100 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: has not let Jared Goff even get a sniff of 101 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: any defender near him this year. It's going to be 102 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: really fun to watch. 103 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: This is a little bit of a benefit for Pinay 104 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: is that he's had the luxury of going against Aiden 105 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: Hutchinson definite training camp. I think I look at Aiden Hutchinson, 106 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: I look at Max Crosby, the number one and number 107 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: two guys in league in terms of quarterback pressures, but 108 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: I see very similar players, right, Guys with a good 109 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: repertoire of past moves, a motor that never quits, you know, 110 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: can stand up, can play different positions. And I think 111 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: maybe that benefits Piney a little bit that every single day, 112 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: you know, in training cramp OTAs and in the offseason, 113 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: he's had to grind and go against that guy used to. 114 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: A similar caliber across from you, and you're used to 115 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 2: seeing maybe some similar moves. But I mean, mass Crosby, 116 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: this guy, this guy's a stud. It's gonna be a 117 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: fun mat nice level. And it's not only going to 118 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: be pine He plays across the line. Everybody's got to 119 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: be ready. But I think that's the one that everybody's 120 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: going to be keyed in on. 121 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: All right. Another one who I think is one of 122 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: the best at his position is DeVante Adams. They're terrific 123 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver, I mean, one of the best in the league. 124 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: Getting off the line of scrimmage, free releases. It's just 125 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: hard to get your hands on that guy hit the 126 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. And I think, you know, Jerry's probably 127 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: going to see him little bit too, he'll play in 128 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: the slot, they move him around. But I think it's 129 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: Cam Sutton's probably going to see a majority of low 130 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: the least. If you're Detroit, that's probably the matchup you want. 131 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: Look you look at at last week and you look 132 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: at the pass defense for Lions, and I think everybody 133 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: in that secondary will stand up and admit that that 134 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: wasn't their best performance. I mean there were guys running free. Now, look, 135 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: pass coverage at least good pass coverage in this league 136 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: is a marriage of the rush and cover, and those 137 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: guys up front and didn't do their job. The guys 138 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: in the back end didn't do their job nine point 139 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: four seconds when you have the whole of them, that's 140 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: that's a recipe for a disaster. And that's what we 141 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: saw last week. It was a disaster. And so it'll 142 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: be interesting to see how they bounce back a little bit. 143 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about Cam in a performance where 144 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: he allowed three catches for fifty eight yards, and that's 145 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: maybe one of his worst performances of the year. That's 146 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: how good and how steady he's been for Detroit Secondary. 147 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: So I think that's a terrific matchup. Can he get 148 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: his hands on DeVante a little bit at the line 149 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, can he reroute him a little bit? And 150 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: can that pressure up front get to Jimmy garoppolo or 151 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: in O'Connell, whoever it is. We'll see and and affect 152 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: that and not allow you know, those guys to sit 153 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,559 Speaker 1: sit back there like they did like Lamar did last 154 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: week and just pick this this defensive back. 155 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, once you have that much time, and neither any 156 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: of the three possible Raider quarterbacks are not mobile guys, 157 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: so at least you're you're kind of ruling that out 158 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: and you're you know, you're getting a pocket passer with Hoyer, O'Connell, Garoppolo, whoever. 159 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: It's, and Gripple's dealing with the back injury so that 160 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: you might be more limited. 161 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: Then you're even thinking he's not to begin with. So 162 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: you're looking at that and you made a really good 163 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: point three for fifty eight. I felt like last week 164 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: was the first time where I like even noticed camp 165 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: someting was out there and made the conscious note that like, oh, 166 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: Cam let up a catch and it was only three 167 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: for fifty eight, which is not It's listen, it's not great. 168 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: You don't want to give up twenty yards a cash, 169 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: but it could have been a lot worse and he 170 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: held it down. That the interesting thing to me here. Obviously, 171 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: Lion's fans are very familiar with Devonte Adams has been 172 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: a thorn in the lionside for a long time. But 173 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: on the on the Sutton matchup, he's six to one. 174 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: Camp Sutton's five to eleven. Devon Adams is two to fifteen. 175 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: Camp Sutton's won eighty five. You get in two inches 176 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: and thirty pounds, a little bit bigger of a body 177 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: out there, whereas Zay Flowers Odell smaller type guys last week. 178 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: How is Cam gonna hold up against a little bit 179 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: bigger body. 180 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: I think Camp plays bigger than what he is, Especially 181 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: we've seen that when he plays the run game, when 182 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: they need a big play in the past game, Adams 183 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: is their guy. Forty six catches on the year, five 184 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight yards, three touchdowns, He's their guy. 185 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: He's one Jimmy trust the most. If they need to play, 186 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: it's going to go to him, especially on third down, 187 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: and so that'll be an important matchup in this one. 188 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: All right, let's flip to the Detroit side of the football. 189 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: Jamier Gibbs, who I thought, you know, played a terrific 190 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: game last week. 191 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: Definitely bright spot. 192 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the long bright spots. You know, both 193 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: rushing and receiving. You throw a rookie ten times, he 194 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: catches at nine. Now, look, I know those aren't deep 195 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: shots down the field, but that's consistency. And when you 196 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: look at how the Raiders might defend them, I think 197 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: they've got a few options, but maybe their best one 198 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: is going to be linebacker Robert Spilloon, who look Western Michigan, 199 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: Bronco shout out to the Broncos, but look a guy 200 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: who I think is one of the better cover linebackers 201 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: in the league. I mean, you just look at some 202 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: of the numbers here. I mean, opposing passers have a 203 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: fifty three point two rating that's the second lowest in 204 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: the league among linebackers. When they throw his way, he's terrific. 205 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: He can cover ground, and so if they decide that 206 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: that's the way they want to match up with Jamiir Gibbs, 207 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: who I expect to continue to be a big part 208 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: of the passing game. David Montgomery probably isn't going to 209 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: play in this one, so we'll see a similar role 210 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: I think to what we saw Jamiir last week. And 211 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: I think that's going to be an interesting matchup because 212 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: not only when you talk about the nine catches for 213 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: Jamiir being a big part of the passing game, but 214 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: some of those are an extension of the run game too. 215 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: To get him out in space, get him out wide, 216 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: get the ball out. How much can he create that 217 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: separation from Robert to maybe create some of those big plays. 218 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're looking at you know, finally got 219 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: twenty touches last week, and that's what we've been waiting 220 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: on all year to see, you know, what can he 221 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 2: do with that large of a workload. And I think 222 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: you were really impressed against a really good defense, and yeah, 223 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: some of it was, you know, took him a little while, 224 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: I thought, especially on the ground, you saw more chunk 225 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: plays in the second half, just kind of getting going 226 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: a little bit for the first time this year. But 227 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: really impressed from from what he was able to do 228 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: in Baltimore, but you're going against a linebacker. Two interceptions 229 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: against Green Bay, two pass defended outside of that on 230 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 2: the year. This is a guy that has an ability 231 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: to break up passes and can run sideline to sideline, 232 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: another three down player that doesn't come off the field. 233 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: That's really his skill set. Yeah, I mean, he has 234 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: a terrific skill set in the pass game, better one. 235 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: And when you're going up against such a you know, 236 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: receiving weapon, I think it's gonna be really interesting. Ken, 237 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: Maybe do we see Jamir in the slot to try 238 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: to you know, do you think you have a better 239 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: matchup against a nickel than you do even a coverage 240 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: linebacker with a guy as good as this. 241 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, one d percent, It'll be interesting to see how 242 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: they used him. But it's good to see Jamiir kind 243 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: of settling into his role now. You know, he's had 244 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: an opportunity to be the number one guy, and I 245 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: thought he handled that role well, And I think that's 246 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: a good sign for him moving forward that if he 247 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: needed to, he can handle that role then certainly be 248 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: a one B to David's one A. 249 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: And I think you're you're getting the vibes certainly at 250 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 2: least are better at home for the Lions offense. Josh 251 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: Reynolds is a much different player at Ford Field in 252 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: the Dome than he is outside statistically, So you're getting 253 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: you know, Josh Reynld scores his touchdowns at home. You know, 254 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: you have that threat that maybe wasn't there or wasn't 255 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 2: open as much last week outside in the colder weather 256 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: and against a better defense, a better secondary at that. 257 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: So you're looking, you know, Jamiir, does Jamior have to 258 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: have nine catches this week? No, but we know he's 259 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: capable and we saw what he could do with it 260 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: last week. 261 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: Let's see if you can get into some open space, 262 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: see that speed really maybe get some really break ones. 263 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: It was good to see that's twenty one yard touchdown. 264 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: Get that kind of back. But they're in half a 265 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: sea and I'll get rolling, you know. Speaking of running backs, 266 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: it's been really kind of weird I think with the 267 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: Raiders looking at kind of where they rank in terms 268 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: of I think they're what the twenty seventh and rushing 269 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: thirtieth in offense, and here's the guy in Josh Jacobs 270 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: who was the leading rusher in the league, last year obviously, 271 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: you know, had some contract disputes and some holdout stuff, 272 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: and I don't know if that's affected them at all. 273 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: But I think another big matchup in this one is 274 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: Detroit's front, led by Alee McNeil, a guy in the 275 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: center who they you know, they really rely on to 276 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: be their run stuff for inside versu Josh Jacobs, who 277 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: they've has really struggled three hundred and forty seven yards 278 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: on the season, he's only afging two point nine yards 279 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: a carry and two touchdowns. I mean, they're the worst 280 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: rushing offense in the league sixty eight point six, actually 281 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: it is. And so it'll be interesting because I know 282 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: that's what they're going to want to do, at least 283 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: on the roads coming and at least have some sense 284 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: of a running game. They're not going to want to 285 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: put Jimmy Garoppolo or a O'Connell back there and just 286 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: have him throw forty to fifty times. They've got to 287 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: try to establish Josh Jacobs. Detroit has been terrific stopping 288 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: the run. You know, little hiccup last week with one 289 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: hundred and forty six yards you know, allowed by Baltimore 290 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: the first time this year that a team has gone 291 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: over one hundred yards against them. But I think that 292 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: this is a really interesting matchup because they talked over 293 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas this week about you know, thinking that 294 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: they're close that that you know, a five yard run 295 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: was almost a fifteen if if if you know, we 296 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: had this one little block, this one little you know, hiccup, 297 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: the one missed assignment. So they feel like they're really 298 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: close with it, and Josh mcgam's is going to stick 299 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: with it to try to be balanced. 300 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you're coming into a hostile environment in 301 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: a road game like that, you're gonna want to control 302 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 2: the clock a little bit and just get into a rhythm, 303 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: especially if it ends up being Jimmy at quarterback. 304 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: Jimmy, much like. 305 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: Jared, is a play action quarterback, so you have to 306 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: at least establish the run a little bit and get 307 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 2: that threat going. And Josh Jacobs has historically been somebody 308 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: that has been very capable of doing that. Led the 309 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: league in rushing last year, has not exactly hit this year, 310 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: but you have that threat in the back of you. 311 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: It only takes one like you, you know, only take this. 312 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: Guy can do and what he's capable of and I'm 313 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: sure Lee McNeil, the rest of that front bugs, all 314 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: the guys in the interior are going to be very 315 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: familiar with what Josh Jacobs are capable. 316 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: That's job number one. Stop him. Make them a throwing team. 317 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: Limit the play action a little bit. Look, Jimmy Grappolo 318 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: has got eight interceptions on the season. He's been known 319 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: to dish him out a little bit. So I think 320 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: that's the recipe for success. We've said it a lot 321 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: this year. 322 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: When you know you're forcing Desmond Ritter and Jordan Love 323 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: and Bryce Young to drop back in the in the 324 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: mid forties, and you know whatever you're throwing thirty eight times, 325 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: you're getting seven sacks or whatever it was against Green Bay, Like, 326 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: those are the games I think the Lions are really 327 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: going to play well in. When you're forcing the opposing 328 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: quarterback to drop back forty eight times, I feel pretty 329 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: decent about the odds if that's just what's going to 330 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: be in the box wall. 331 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a little bit closer to look 332 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: at that quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo versus Kirby Joseph and I 333 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: put this matchup together because he's due. He is due. 334 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: You look at last year and the plays that he 335 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: was able to make, the ball hawking, the takeaways, we 336 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: just we haven't seen it yet so far. We talked 337 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: to Brian Duke at the defensive backs coach this week. 338 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: He said, if you look at some of the numbers, 339 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: teams have been attacking them a little bit more on 340 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: the outside than they have the middle, and so maybe 341 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: that nice cur fielder out there, maybe that has a 342 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: little bit something to do with it. But like I 343 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: mentioned before, like Jimmy Garoppolo has got seven touchdowns on 344 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: this season, he's got eight interceptions. The Raiders lead the 345 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: NFL and giveaways with fifteen. I think if there's ever 346 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: an opportunity for a guy like Kirby to come up 347 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: with a big play, get off the schneid a little 348 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: bit on the interceptions this year and this defense come 349 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: up with a couple of really big takeaways and key 350 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: plays that we've seen in some of their wins the year, 351 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: I think this is a good opportunity to do it. 352 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we've seen a lot of It's 353 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: not that you know, everybody expected after last year Kirby 354 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: would be just the ballhawk guy, which I still think 355 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: he is, But we've seen a lot of improvement from Kirby. 356 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: I thought he was great last week, kind of cleaning 357 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: up on the back end. He's been better in the 358 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: run he was last year. So it's not that Kirby 359 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: season has not gone the way I think anybody wanted 360 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: it to. 361 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: He's improving as a player. But you want to see. 362 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: Your big play guy make some big plays, and I 363 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: think you know, halfway through here, heading into the buy, 364 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: I think this is a really good time to kind 365 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: of see it. Whether it's Jimmy who has a has 366 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: not protected the ball well this year, or it's a 367 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: young quarterback like Aidan O'Connell. These are guys that are 368 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: susceptible to mistakes and I think you might be able 369 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: to kind of bait them into one over the middle. 370 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 3: Here. 371 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: This is a big game at home, that environment, the noise, 372 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: you get, that crowd going on the defensive side of 373 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: the ball. Make a few of those mistakes. I think 374 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: it's gonna be really tough sledding for the Raiders. So 375 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: those are the key matchups. We will return with Vic 376 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: Taffer from the Athletic He's gonna break down everything loss 377 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: the Vegas Raiders Welcome back to the twenty in the 378 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft, and I am very happy 379 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: to welcome Vin Vic Taefor. He does a great job 380 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: covering everything Raiders for the athletic Vic. Thanks for taking 381 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: the time. I appreciate you joining me. 382 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 3: No problem, man, Big game coming up, all right. 383 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 2: It is. 384 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: It's Monday night, right, It's it's two teams that are 385 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: coming off, you know, difficult losses last week. Obviously, Lions 386 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: are trying to write the ship at home ahead of 387 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: thereby big game for the Raiders to turn things around 388 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: after lost to Chicago last week. Well, let's start with 389 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: the injury from for you guys. Obviously a big one. 390 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. Looks like he returned to practice on Thursday. 391 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: What's his status for Monday, Vic. 392 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be out there for the practice window. I 393 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 3: think in an hour or so. But yeah, he's gonna 394 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 3: be out there, so I think he'll be fine. I 395 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 3: mean I think a loss, he's a setback. He'll be 396 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: the guy on Monday, which is good news. He's clearly 397 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 3: is their best quarterback. He struggled this year. He has 398 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 3: eight interceptions. I think some of the fans have already 399 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: turned on the guy, but yeah, he's definitely their best guy. 400 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 3: So I think any chance they have to win, he'd 401 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 3: have to play. 402 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: You know, the eight interceptions obviously a little bit surprising 403 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: with just you know how he's been able to limit 404 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: that in years past, how he's you know, played pretty 405 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: good game management type type of style. But the one 406 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: thing that jumps out to me that when I look 407 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: at the Raiders and I kind of like scratch my 408 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: head a little bit, is Josh Jacobs with three hundred 409 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: and forty some yards two touchdowns, averaging two point nine 410 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: yards per care. I mean, this is the leading rusher 411 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: in the NFL last year. And to look at that 412 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: Raiders offense and see them last in rushing, that's a 413 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,239 Speaker 1: little surprising. What's been the biggest issue there? 414 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: Vic? 415 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 3: I think the team's coming in now opposing teams they 416 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 3: watched the film last year obviously, and they saw it, 417 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 3: you know how good he was. So their approach this 418 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 3: year has been stacked the box. We're gonna put eight 419 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: nine guys lion scrimmage. We want to try and be 420 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: this deep go ahead, and the Raiders haven't been able 421 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 3: to do that. But no plays down the field. So 422 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 3: even if how good Joe mean, Josh Jacobs is a 423 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 3: great running back, but a nine man box that's pretty tough. 424 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: He's getting hit behind lane. Scrimmage online has not been great. 425 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 3: They were they kind of overachieved last year, I thought, 426 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: and they kind of kept the same bunch and tacked 427 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 3: this year that one new guy, but kind of disappointing 428 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: for them. They've not been as good as they were 429 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 3: last year. And he's definitely feeling in front of that. 430 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 3: So it's a combination of things. But like I'm sure 431 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 3: the lines will come out and I imagine they'll stack 432 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 3: the box as well, and that's worked every every week 433 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 3: so far. So I'm not sure why you do anything 434 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 3: else against the against the Raiders. 435 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: You know, you look at the Raiders defensively, one of 436 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: the best teams in the league in terms of their 437 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: past defense. Obviously, Max Crosby is one of the one 438 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: of the better edge guys in the league. I think 439 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: football fans are going to be he treated to a 440 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: great matchup this week, Big Penney Sewell versus Max Crosby. 441 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: You as excited as I am to kind of watch 442 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: that one. Really two of the elite guys at their position, 443 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: going at it for sixty minutes, it should be a 444 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: fun one. 445 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely could be the best matchup on the field. 446 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: I think Max is just he's hard to describe. He's 447 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 3: just non stop energy. He moves around, up and down 448 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 3: a line of scrimmage. He can't be stopped. He doesn't. 449 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 3: He has a huge wingspan, he chases down the ball. 450 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 3: Just a guy who's also a good leader. He kind 451 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: of brings his guys up with him. So there's not 452 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 3: much else besides him on his defense, it makes his 453 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 3: accomplishments even more IMPRESSI up to me, There's not a 454 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: lot else on this front, so I think he's definitely 455 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 3: the guy. So any chance they have to win kind 456 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: of you know, starts with him. He has to have 457 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 3: a big game or else defense is in trouble. 458 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: Big Does he play a lot over the right tackle? 459 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: When I watched a little bit of film on him 460 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: this year, I saw the majority of that. Will he 461 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: slide over see Taylor Decker on the left? Do they 462 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: line him up inside? Did they really just try to 463 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: move him all around and get the best matchup possible 464 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: or is it going to be him and Penny Mostly? 465 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 3: I think it'll be mostly him in Pene's where he's 466 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 3: most comfortable. But definitely they did move him around a little, 467 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 3: but he definitely goes to the other side. I'll go 468 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 3: inside on some players because obviously teams definitely targeting him. 469 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: He's definitely if you're Scott in the Raiders and making 470 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: the game plan, stopping him is definitely a job one. 471 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 3: So you got to move him around little bit. You 472 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 3: gotta make him hard to find sometimes and try and 473 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 3: get different looks. But yeah, for the most part, they'll 474 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 3: be on the right side. But yeah, I mean, he's uh, 475 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,479 Speaker 3: he can make plays wherever he is. 476 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: Who's maybe a player over you know, in Las Vegas 477 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: that maybe Lions fans don't know a whole lot about, 478 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: but who could ultimately have an impact in winning and 479 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: losing for the Raiders some Monday night. 480 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: It's a good question. I think offensively, it's probably Jacobe Meers, 481 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: kind of guy who's on a fancy Guys are excited 482 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 3: about him, but he's kind of been It's weird they 483 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: can't score points. He's been really good. He's number two guy. 484 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 3: He gets a lot of targets and he makes good 485 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 3: catches in the m zone. And and tough catchers. So he's 486 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: been better than I think that. You know, they thought 487 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 3: so he's a guy me dangerous if the Lions trying 488 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: and focus on the mount Dy Adams Myers can hurt you. 489 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 3: And defensively, you know, I would probably say the secondary 490 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 3: has been before before last week, they were kind of overachieving. 491 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 3: I thought Trayvon marrig it's had a good year. Their 492 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: safety was a high pick couple of years ago. It 493 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 3: didn't play that well, but he's kind of come into 494 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 3: it's gotten a little smarter, a little more, you know, 495 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 3: is it better of national notes what to do and 496 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 3: kind of a tough guy against the run pass. So 497 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 3: he's been a kind of surprise for me. A guy 498 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: has approved in secondary this year. 499 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: Have they just done a good job of kind of 500 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: marrying that rush in cover? Obviously, when you play good 501 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: pass defense in league, it's got to be a little 502 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: bit that we talked about Max just how much of 503 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: an impact he has. But is it just they've been 504 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: doing a good job of marriaging that they've taken advantage 505 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: of opportunities. Why have we seen them be able to 506 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: be so you know, so good this year in their 507 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: past defense. I think they lead the league only ten 508 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 1: plays of twenty plus yards they've given up. They've just 509 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: they've just really limited teams in the air. What's what's 510 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: been the biggest catalyst behind that, you think, Vic, Well. 511 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: I'd say they do a good job of the skis 512 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: at coaches. I'm also going to say Waid fans probably 513 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 3: don't want to hear this, but it played some really 514 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 3: bad quarterbacks. And if we've played Russell Wilson, we played 515 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 3: Mac Jones, they've played Jordan Love. It's been terrible they 516 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: played I mean last last week was Beijing for the 517 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 3: Bears actually beat them. So not a great list of 518 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 3: quarterbacks they've played this year. I mean Josh Allen absolutely 519 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 3: shredded them when they played them. So yeah, So I 520 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 3: think if Jack Goflins on an honest game, I think 521 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 3: we'll see those stats kind of take a dip after 522 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 3: after this week. 523 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: When you look at this matchup, when you look on 524 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: paper and and and maybe in the film study you've done, 525 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: what do you think is is the biggest key for 526 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: the Raiders if they're going to come on the road 527 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: into a hostile environment. And look, Ford Field has been 528 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: really hot, so I know the Raiders, you know, are 529 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: used to that, but but Ford Field's been a little 530 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: bit different. These Lions fans have been different. What do 531 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: the Raiders have to do? What's what's the number one 532 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: thing that that they have to do if they're going 533 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: to come here and get a win Monday night. 534 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: Well, the office has been terrible, so I think the 535 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 3: offense tests to be good, then it should be good. 536 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: There's talent on this offense, so I think after see 537 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 3: Jimmy g hit DeVante Meyers some big plays down in 538 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: the field to maybe again Michael Mary involved the time end, 539 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 3: but they got to get some big plays down the 540 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 3: field to kind of open up the running game a 541 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: little bit. So the only chance to have in my 542 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 3: mind is if they get some big plays down the 543 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: field in the passing game. 544 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: Well, it should be a fun one. I think they're 545 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: stars on both sides. It's national television. It should be 546 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: a great environment. I know you'll enjoy that. 547 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 3: Vic. 548 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: I'll make sure I stop buy and say hello, safe 549 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: travels to Detroit. 550 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 3: All right, I appreciate it.