1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:14,668 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,308 --> 00:00:28,508 Speaker 2: Good Morning, Welcome to our breakfast table. This is Good 4 00:00:28,508 --> 00:00:32,108 Speaker 2: Morning Football Live in New York City, Tuesday, March nineteenth. 5 00:00:32,108 --> 00:00:34,548 Speaker 2: I'm Jamie eard All. There's Jason mccordy and Hoodie Peter Schrager. 6 00:00:34,748 --> 00:00:35,708 Speaker 2: Peter not Gonnaudia. 7 00:00:35,748 --> 00:00:36,108 Speaker 3: Yesterday. 8 00:00:36,188 --> 00:00:37,468 Speaker 4: The suit, it was suiting a booten. 9 00:00:37,908 --> 00:00:41,148 Speaker 2: We appreciated it, but we love this versus right week. 10 00:00:40,988 --> 00:00:43,188 Speaker 5: Right, I'm like, I'm gonna go out with a suit 11 00:00:43,868 --> 00:00:44,748 Speaker 5: and today I'm in. 12 00:00:44,908 --> 00:00:47,348 Speaker 6: A shirt in a hoodie. But Jamie, you're in. 13 00:00:47,348 --> 00:00:50,668 Speaker 5: Your varsity jacket, and I feel like we're winding down 14 00:00:50,708 --> 00:00:51,148 Speaker 5: the days. 15 00:00:51,308 --> 00:00:52,348 Speaker 6: Coming down the home stretch. 16 00:00:52,548 --> 00:00:53,788 Speaker 7: You are coming down the home tomorrow. 17 00:00:54,748 --> 00:00:58,468 Speaker 2: That means tomorrow is my last day on Good Morning 18 00:00:58,508 --> 00:01:02,628 Speaker 2: Football in New York City. Depending you know action happening 19 00:01:02,668 --> 00:01:04,148 Speaker 2: today and then I won't. Then this will be my 20 00:01:04,188 --> 00:01:06,028 Speaker 2: last day. Every day is the last day. That's how 21 00:01:06,028 --> 00:01:08,108 Speaker 2: I'm kind of treating it is to have fun with 22 00:01:08,108 --> 00:01:11,908 Speaker 2: my guys. And she's in there for now. 23 00:01:12,028 --> 00:01:12,788 Speaker 7: We know what she has. 24 00:01:12,948 --> 00:01:14,988 Speaker 2: If she has a second opinion, then she's kind of 25 00:01:14,988 --> 00:01:18,148 Speaker 2: the boss. At that point, you know they're fans. 26 00:01:17,788 --> 00:01:20,828 Speaker 7: Of the Kickers blanking ship Ron Rega. 27 00:01:20,948 --> 00:01:24,788 Speaker 6: Yes, there's great kickers in our game. Some kickers. 28 00:01:24,948 --> 00:01:28,108 Speaker 2: Oh yes, My ribs get kicked every once in a while, especially. 29 00:01:27,628 --> 00:01:28,948 Speaker 7: When you don't have enough. 30 00:01:29,028 --> 00:01:33,028 Speaker 2: Molik Neighbors takes like immediately like she's like, bab bab Peter, 31 00:01:33,148 --> 00:01:34,068 Speaker 2: let's go shregs. 32 00:01:34,148 --> 00:01:34,428 Speaker 7: Kyle. 33 00:01:34,988 --> 00:01:37,148 Speaker 2: It could be it because you could seeven Arrow. 34 00:01:37,388 --> 00:01:37,948 Speaker 7: You just don't know. 35 00:01:38,828 --> 00:01:42,068 Speaker 4: Listen if the audience could hear the stuff that Jamie 36 00:01:42,148 --> 00:01:44,268 Speaker 4: was talking about off the air before the show started. 37 00:01:44,748 --> 00:01:46,268 Speaker 4: Never mind today, I don't know if we're getting through 38 00:01:46,268 --> 00:01:48,668 Speaker 4: this segment. It might be time to pass out cigars. 39 00:01:48,708 --> 00:01:50,588 Speaker 7: Boys. I think we're doing it. Let's go. 40 00:01:53,188 --> 00:01:56,268 Speaker 2: Oh, you'd have to be president, Kyle. We appreciate you 41 00:01:56,308 --> 00:01:59,068 Speaker 2: hang tight because, like you said, you have to deliver 42 00:01:59,388 --> 00:02:03,028 Speaker 2: things throughout the show today from parts unknown, Kyle Brandt 43 00:02:03,068 --> 00:02:05,428 Speaker 2: is there and it's time for the block exactly. I 44 00:02:05,468 --> 00:02:07,748 Speaker 2: can't have a delivery pond now and Kyle doesn't hold 45 00:02:07,788 --> 00:02:12,548 Speaker 2: me accountable. This dealers have been busy over the last week. First, 46 00:02:13,108 --> 00:02:16,268 Speaker 2: of course, they signed Russell Wilson on the dollar, and 47 00:02:16,308 --> 00:02:19,228 Speaker 2: then before they traded for Justin Fields, they actually traded 48 00:02:19,268 --> 00:02:22,228 Speaker 2: away Kenny Pickett in state to the Philadelphia Eagles and 49 00:02:22,308 --> 00:02:25,868 Speaker 2: upon Network inside our Tom Pilo Saro reported that Pickett 50 00:02:25,868 --> 00:02:29,388 Speaker 2: found out about the Russell Wilson signing on social media 51 00:02:30,068 --> 00:02:33,028 Speaker 2: and asked for a trade once Mike Tomlin told him 52 00:02:33,228 --> 00:02:36,148 Speaker 2: Russell would get first team reps. So here's what Kenny 53 00:02:36,188 --> 00:02:39,428 Speaker 2: Pickett had to say yesterday about wanting a fresh start 54 00:02:39,468 --> 00:02:43,588 Speaker 2: elsewhere and his communication with his former team. 55 00:02:44,668 --> 00:02:45,988 Speaker 3: You know, I just thought it was time, you know, 56 00:02:45,988 --> 00:02:47,668 Speaker 3: it just it just felt like it was time from 57 00:02:47,788 --> 00:02:50,468 Speaker 3: you know, the things that transpired, and you know, wanted 58 00:02:50,468 --> 00:02:53,228 Speaker 3: to get a chance to go somewhere else and continue 59 00:02:53,228 --> 00:02:55,628 Speaker 3: to grow my career. And the fact that it's in Philly, 60 00:02:56,548 --> 00:02:57,868 Speaker 3: you know, the place that I grew up, you know, 61 00:02:57,908 --> 00:03:00,308 Speaker 3: found the love for the game here. I think the communication, 62 00:03:01,348 --> 00:03:03,428 Speaker 3: you know, is what it is is behind closed doors. 63 00:03:04,828 --> 00:03:06,588 Speaker 3: You know, I'm confident. 64 00:03:06,188 --> 00:03:07,148 Speaker 7: In the way that I handled it. 65 00:03:07,148 --> 00:03:09,268 Speaker 3: I handled it the way I should have handled it. 66 00:03:11,588 --> 00:03:13,908 Speaker 2: There's a lot of unseats there. I would say a 67 00:03:13,948 --> 00:03:16,908 Speaker 2: professional stance from Kenny Pickett. But we still have to 68 00:03:16,948 --> 00:03:20,148 Speaker 2: assess our thoughts on the Kenny Picket portion of the 69 00:03:20,148 --> 00:03:23,348 Speaker 2: Steelers quarterback moves and really what the trade means for Philadelphia. 70 00:03:23,388 --> 00:03:23,628 Speaker 7: Peter. 71 00:03:23,828 --> 00:03:26,468 Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought he got the unfair part of the 72 00:03:26,468 --> 00:03:29,068 Speaker 5: weekend and that there was almost like they kicked him 73 00:03:29,068 --> 00:03:29,748 Speaker 5: on his way out. 74 00:03:30,108 --> 00:03:31,588 Speaker 6: Was you read the news reports and it. 75 00:03:31,588 --> 00:03:34,428 Speaker 5: Was like Kenny Pickett balked at the trade and you 76 00:03:34,428 --> 00:03:37,348 Speaker 5: know then it like his reactions, so they shipped him off. 77 00:03:37,828 --> 00:03:39,628 Speaker 6: I think it was actually a three piece move. 78 00:03:39,588 --> 00:03:41,588 Speaker 5: Here by Pittsburgh and that they're like, if we could 79 00:03:41,588 --> 00:03:44,508 Speaker 5: get Russ at this number, and then we have Russ, 80 00:03:44,548 --> 00:03:46,188 Speaker 5: and then we could also get Fields, when then we 81 00:03:46,188 --> 00:03:47,628 Speaker 5: don't need Picket and we'll go on from there. 82 00:03:47,628 --> 00:03:49,868 Speaker 6: I don't think it was necessary to also, you. 83 00:03:49,748 --> 00:03:52,028 Speaker 5: Know, have him get you know when a car drives 84 00:03:52,028 --> 00:03:53,908 Speaker 5: by and there's a puddle and just sprays. 85 00:03:53,588 --> 00:03:54,908 Speaker 6: You like yay, Yeah, yeah. 86 00:03:55,428 --> 00:03:57,068 Speaker 5: Pickett didn't need that on the way out, and I 87 00:03:57,068 --> 00:03:58,988 Speaker 5: didn't think that was necessarily fair to him. So now 88 00:03:58,988 --> 00:04:01,948 Speaker 5: he goes to Philadelphia casualty of a maneuver that I 89 00:04:01,988 --> 00:04:04,868 Speaker 5: think the Pittsburgh Steelers saw from thirty thousand and are 90 00:04:04,868 --> 00:04:07,028 Speaker 5: like picking doesn't make sense in this situation, but Russ 91 00:04:07,068 --> 00:04:10,268 Speaker 5: and Fields do goes there, and I look at what 92 00:04:10,428 --> 00:04:13,388 Speaker 5: his career in Pittsburgh was short lived obviously, right with 93 00:04:13,428 --> 00:04:15,908 Speaker 5: an ankle injury in this past season. One thing you 94 00:04:15,948 --> 00:04:19,628 Speaker 5: could say about Kenny Pickett least interceptions in the league, 95 00:04:19,948 --> 00:04:23,308 Speaker 5: doesn't turn the ball over, doesn't kill you, and is 96 00:04:23,348 --> 00:04:27,028 Speaker 5: a reliable young quarterback. And when it was mattering most 97 00:04:27,028 --> 00:04:29,668 Speaker 5: at the end of that rookie season, remember the Christmas 98 00:04:30,108 --> 00:04:33,068 Speaker 5: Eve night game against the Raiders, and it mattered most 99 00:04:33,108 --> 00:04:35,588 Speaker 5: against the Bronco Like, this guy did play well in 100 00:04:35,628 --> 00:04:37,668 Speaker 5: the clutch. Even last year against it Ravens down the 101 00:04:37,668 --> 00:04:39,628 Speaker 5: stretch he found George Pickens on that deep pass. So 102 00:04:40,108 --> 00:04:43,548 Speaker 5: I'm still bullish shun Kenny Pickett. I know it sounds 103 00:04:43,548 --> 00:04:45,748 Speaker 5: crazy talking about backup quarterback for a team, but I 104 00:04:45,788 --> 00:04:47,828 Speaker 5: look at Jalen Hurts and the financial investment they made 105 00:04:47,868 --> 00:04:50,268 Speaker 5: to him last year, fifty five million dollars. Give him 106 00:04:50,268 --> 00:04:52,708 Speaker 5: all this money, and then we had a veteran backup 107 00:04:52,828 --> 00:04:55,068 Speaker 5: in Mariota as his guy and his mentor. 108 00:04:55,228 --> 00:04:56,188 Speaker 6: Now it's a little different. 109 00:04:56,348 --> 00:04:59,428 Speaker 5: Now there's another young quarterback making way Less, who's got 110 00:04:59,428 --> 00:05:01,068 Speaker 5: a little chip on his shoulder. What does that mean 111 00:05:01,108 --> 00:05:03,388 Speaker 5: in the quarterbacks room? What's the dynamic? How does Kellen 112 00:05:03,428 --> 00:05:06,388 Speaker 5: Moore handle that? And Kenny Pickett, who grew up an 113 00:05:06,428 --> 00:05:08,428 Speaker 5: Eagles fan and had the Carson Wentz Jersey when they 114 00:05:08,428 --> 00:05:10,268 Speaker 5: took a photo of him, and they found that photo, 115 00:05:10,988 --> 00:05:13,468 Speaker 5: How does he use that as motivation to maybe rebuild 116 00:05:13,468 --> 00:05:15,468 Speaker 5: not only his career, but the narrative around his career 117 00:05:15,948 --> 00:05:18,708 Speaker 5: that he was a salty loser when they went to 118 00:05:18,748 --> 00:05:21,468 Speaker 5: Mason Rudolph and that he was also you know, handled 119 00:05:21,468 --> 00:05:24,308 Speaker 5: the Russell Wilson signing in a way that wasn't you know, 120 00:05:24,468 --> 00:05:25,788 Speaker 5: fit for a first round pick. 121 00:05:25,788 --> 00:05:26,668 Speaker 6: I don't like that narrative. 122 00:05:26,668 --> 00:05:28,668 Speaker 5: I think that's a rough situation for anyone, and I 123 00:05:28,668 --> 00:05:29,428 Speaker 5: wish it wasn't. 124 00:05:29,228 --> 00:05:29,788 Speaker 6: The case with him. 125 00:05:29,828 --> 00:05:32,308 Speaker 5: I will say one thing about Pittsburgh. They made these moves. 126 00:05:32,388 --> 00:05:34,308 Speaker 5: I did flips for a more con yesterday, and I 127 00:05:34,348 --> 00:05:36,468 Speaker 5: really do think it was an upgrade at the quarterback position. 128 00:05:37,388 --> 00:05:39,708 Speaker 5: Wide receiver has to be next, Like these guys need 129 00:05:39,788 --> 00:05:42,028 Speaker 5: some weapons. George Pickens is one red receiver, but you 130 00:05:42,108 --> 00:05:43,548 Speaker 5: traded away Deontay Johnson. 131 00:05:43,828 --> 00:05:45,068 Speaker 6: I'm not done with Pittsburgh. 132 00:05:45,108 --> 00:05:46,908 Speaker 5: Like I don't look at Pittsburgh and yesterday said that 133 00:05:46,908 --> 00:05:49,028 Speaker 5: they narrow the gap in the AFC North. I'm like 134 00:05:49,388 --> 00:05:52,108 Speaker 5: they got better, and I love Patrick Queen on defense, 135 00:05:52,748 --> 00:05:54,748 Speaker 5: but they need another wide receiver and that might mean 136 00:05:54,788 --> 00:05:58,308 Speaker 5: trading for Brandon Aiyuk might mean trading for another veteran 137 00:05:58,388 --> 00:06:00,668 Speaker 5: and somewhere else. I don't like they weren't in on 138 00:06:00,708 --> 00:06:02,788 Speaker 5: the Keenan Allen deal. They weren't trying to get it 139 00:06:02,828 --> 00:06:05,988 Speaker 5: on Keenan Allen, especially if you had these plans at quarterbacks. 140 00:06:06,028 --> 00:06:09,148 Speaker 5: So watching the wide receiver position, whether it be veteran 141 00:06:09,268 --> 00:06:11,188 Speaker 5: or moving up for one of these young draft picks, 142 00:06:11,228 --> 00:06:13,268 Speaker 5: I think wide receiver is huge for Pittsburgh before we 143 00:06:13,468 --> 00:06:14,148 Speaker 5: kind of give them an a. 144 00:06:14,228 --> 00:06:15,188 Speaker 6: Plus for this off seas. 145 00:06:15,268 --> 00:06:17,548 Speaker 8: Yeah, they brought in Alan Robinson last year. Released in 146 00:06:17,628 --> 00:06:20,548 Speaker 8: this offseason, they've signed Van Jefferson. So to your point, 147 00:06:20,588 --> 00:06:22,428 Speaker 8: that kind of veteran guy I wanted. 148 00:06:22,388 --> 00:06:23,508 Speaker 6: Justin Jefferson. 149 00:06:25,708 --> 00:06:25,908 Speaker 7: There. 150 00:06:26,468 --> 00:06:29,348 Speaker 8: Do you think there's a chance Kenny Pickett can push 151 00:06:29,428 --> 00:06:31,828 Speaker 8: Jalen Hurst? Any chance that Kenny Pickett They're like, all right, well, 152 00:06:31,828 --> 00:06:34,348 Speaker 8: if Jealen Hurst doesn't play well this year, maybe we 153 00:06:34,468 --> 00:06:36,108 Speaker 8: go to Kenny Pickett. Or do you think it's more 154 00:06:36,148 --> 00:06:38,308 Speaker 8: of a sign, Hey, we need a young backup. Jalen 155 00:06:38,348 --> 00:06:40,188 Speaker 8: Hurst was banged out last year. Somebody we can put 156 00:06:40,228 --> 00:06:41,188 Speaker 8: in and feel confident in. 157 00:06:41,188 --> 00:06:43,188 Speaker 6: I think the latter. I think it's Jalen Hurts his team. 158 00:06:43,228 --> 00:06:44,388 Speaker 6: He's taken him to a super Bowl. 159 00:06:44,388 --> 00:06:47,108 Speaker 5: He was an MVP consideration, and he wasn't terrible last 160 00:06:47,148 --> 00:06:49,028 Speaker 5: year and the season went awry. But you look at 161 00:06:49,068 --> 00:06:55,868 Speaker 5: Kenny pickett offensive line deficiencies, multiple offensive coordinators, weird situation 162 00:06:55,988 --> 00:06:58,188 Speaker 5: last year with two coordinators at one point there was 163 00:06:58,188 --> 00:07:00,948 Speaker 5: a fired offensive coordinator. Like I don't think he was 164 00:07:00,988 --> 00:07:03,868 Speaker 5: necessarily put in the best position for success. And we 165 00:07:03,908 --> 00:07:05,868 Speaker 5: love what Pittsburgh the logo beans, and we love with 166 00:07:05,908 --> 00:07:08,628 Speaker 5: the Steelers institutional knowledge and Tommin's obviously a great coach. 167 00:07:08,788 --> 00:07:11,428 Speaker 5: But from an offensive standpoint, I'm not going to judge 168 00:07:11,508 --> 00:07:13,668 Speaker 5: Kenny Pickett's career on those two years. I'd like to 169 00:07:13,668 --> 00:07:15,348 Speaker 5: give it another chapter. And do I think he's gonna 170 00:07:15,388 --> 00:07:17,108 Speaker 5: challenge Jail Hurt. I think he's gonna push Jail and Hurt. 171 00:07:17,188 --> 00:07:18,988 Speaker 5: I don't think as a question who's the QB one. 172 00:07:19,068 --> 00:07:19,828 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would agree. 173 00:07:19,828 --> 00:07:22,028 Speaker 8: And when you talk about Kenny Pickett in Pittsburgh, you 174 00:07:22,068 --> 00:07:23,628 Speaker 8: think about it. He got there and it was the 175 00:07:23,668 --> 00:07:26,268 Speaker 8: battle between him and Traubinsky a season ago, and we 176 00:07:26,308 --> 00:07:28,588 Speaker 8: talked about it. I remember Kyle sitting in that seat saying, no, 177 00:07:28,868 --> 00:07:30,828 Speaker 8: it's going to be Kenny Pickett, and he had some 178 00:07:30,868 --> 00:07:34,108 Speaker 8: comeback wins and enough to excite you about his future. 179 00:07:34,348 --> 00:07:36,788 Speaker 8: Then this season, to your point, didn't throw interceptions, but 180 00:07:36,868 --> 00:07:39,508 Speaker 8: also didn't make a lot of plays on the offensive 181 00:07:39,508 --> 00:07:42,628 Speaker 8: side of the ball, taking chances and making enough plays 182 00:07:42,708 --> 00:07:45,948 Speaker 8: down the field. So the Steelers move on from Kenny Pickett, 183 00:07:46,108 --> 00:07:47,988 Speaker 8: which made me start to think of kind of the 184 00:07:48,108 --> 00:07:50,748 Speaker 8: larger scale when you look at quarterbacks and whether it 185 00:07:50,748 --> 00:07:51,508 Speaker 8: was this past. 186 00:07:51,388 --> 00:07:52,428 Speaker 7: Draft or the year before that. 187 00:07:52,468 --> 00:07:55,668 Speaker 8: In twenty twenty one, so many of these young quarterbacks 188 00:07:55,668 --> 00:07:59,188 Speaker 8: have been given an opportunity, some career starts, some success, 189 00:07:59,548 --> 00:08:02,028 Speaker 8: but have moved on from their teams that they were 190 00:08:02,108 --> 00:08:05,388 Speaker 8: drafted by. This is twenty twenty one, in twenty twenty 191 00:08:05,388 --> 00:08:08,148 Speaker 8: two draft, and you look at the career starts for 192 00:08:08,188 --> 00:08:10,588 Speaker 8: these guys. Canny pick at third on our list, just 193 00:08:10,628 --> 00:08:13,588 Speaker 8: twenty four starts. It's twenty four starts in the NFL 194 00:08:14,028 --> 00:08:17,108 Speaker 8: enough to evaluate the quarterback position when you tie in 195 00:08:17,188 --> 00:08:20,268 Speaker 8: hand to your point, the change in play caller midseason 196 00:08:20,308 --> 00:08:22,508 Speaker 8: in his second year for Mac Jones at the top 197 00:08:22,548 --> 00:08:26,108 Speaker 8: of that list, three different offensive coordinators throughout, and so 198 00:08:26,228 --> 00:08:29,468 Speaker 8: many guys on that list drafted. Trey Lance third overall 199 00:08:29,708 --> 00:08:33,508 Speaker 8: mac Jones fifteen, drafted so high justin fields eleven, and 200 00:08:33,708 --> 00:08:36,628 Speaker 8: none of these guys remain on their same team. You 201 00:08:36,668 --> 00:08:38,788 Speaker 8: could throw Zach Wilson in there, who's the number two 202 00:08:38,828 --> 00:08:41,108 Speaker 8: pick by the New York Jets, and they can't even 203 00:08:41,148 --> 00:08:43,268 Speaker 8: trade him right now, and if they could, he'd be 204 00:08:43,428 --> 00:08:45,788 Speaker 8: on a different team right now. So as I just 205 00:08:45,828 --> 00:08:48,508 Speaker 8: look at the overall landscape, we've talked so much over 206 00:08:48,548 --> 00:08:51,188 Speaker 8: the years of head coaches getting somewhere and not having 207 00:08:51,308 --> 00:08:54,548 Speaker 8: enough time to establish culture and bring in their system 208 00:08:54,588 --> 00:08:57,348 Speaker 8: and really be able to cultivate it and move the 209 00:08:57,348 --> 00:08:59,388 Speaker 8: guys forward, where next thing you know, they're let go 210 00:08:59,428 --> 00:09:01,668 Speaker 8: after two years, three years, you're just like, well, that's 211 00:09:01,708 --> 00:09:04,988 Speaker 8: not enough time. You keep hitting reset for the quarterback position. 212 00:09:05,068 --> 00:09:05,788 Speaker 8: It seems as. 213 00:09:05,628 --> 00:09:07,428 Speaker 7: Though we're doing that right now. 214 00:09:07,468 --> 00:09:10,388 Speaker 8: We're not giving these guys a chance to truly develop 215 00:09:10,508 --> 00:09:13,388 Speaker 8: under one coach, under one system and see what their 216 00:09:13,428 --> 00:09:16,228 Speaker 8: talent and abilities are. We're moving on and just like, well, 217 00:09:16,228 --> 00:09:19,028 Speaker 8: you know what, Kenny Pickett twenty four starts wasn't good 218 00:09:19,108 --> 00:09:21,788 Speaker 8: enough ship them off to Philly. So that to me, 219 00:09:21,828 --> 00:09:24,388 Speaker 8: as I look at it, it's bigger than just Kenny Pickett. 220 00:09:24,468 --> 00:09:26,428 Speaker 8: I don't know that there was enough to say, you 221 00:09:26,428 --> 00:09:28,788 Speaker 8: know what, this guy isn't a starter in the league. 222 00:09:28,828 --> 00:09:31,988 Speaker 8: He cannot lead our franchise. He hasn't shown us enough. 223 00:09:32,308 --> 00:09:34,468 Speaker 8: Justin Field's got a lot of starts, a lot of losses, 224 00:09:34,828 --> 00:09:37,068 Speaker 8: wasn't enough, and they moved on from them. So very 225 00:09:37,108 --> 00:09:39,948 Speaker 8: interesting to see that dynamic as we continue to move 226 00:09:39,948 --> 00:09:42,748 Speaker 8: forward with the quarterbacks in the draft, Kyle, as you 227 00:09:42,788 --> 00:09:46,388 Speaker 8: look at it, the Kenny Pickett Phil Eagles, Pittsburgh was 228 00:09:46,388 --> 00:09:46,908 Speaker 8: your thoughts. 229 00:09:47,828 --> 00:09:50,548 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm hearing Kenny Pickett say, you know it's time. 230 00:09:50,868 --> 00:09:53,388 Speaker 7: It was time. What are you talking about? 231 00:09:53,428 --> 00:09:55,628 Speaker 4: You just got there five seconds ago, Kenny, It's not 232 00:09:55,828 --> 00:09:58,268 Speaker 4: time at all. How many I mean, I don't even 233 00:09:58,268 --> 00:09:59,948 Speaker 4: know the numbers in front of me. How many first 234 00:10:00,028 --> 00:10:04,948 Speaker 4: round quarterbacks are gone after two seasons like where there 235 00:10:04,948 --> 00:10:07,588 Speaker 4: wasn't crazy controversy, there weren't massive injuries. 236 00:10:07,588 --> 00:10:11,548 Speaker 7: It was just gone. I am blown away. 237 00:10:11,308 --> 00:10:14,788 Speaker 4: By this new Steelers and mode of operations and Peter 238 00:10:14,908 --> 00:10:17,308 Speaker 4: you mentioned Omark conn and like he's just like, I 239 00:10:17,348 --> 00:10:18,628 Speaker 4: don't have time for this anymore. 240 00:10:18,668 --> 00:10:20,468 Speaker 7: I got to change, and I got to change quickly. 241 00:10:20,508 --> 00:10:22,068 Speaker 7: I've talked about this a lot this week. 242 00:10:22,348 --> 00:10:25,308 Speaker 4: They have gone seven years without a playoff winning Pittsburgh. 243 00:10:25,388 --> 00:10:28,108 Speaker 4: That is the longest stretch for that team since the 244 00:10:28,188 --> 00:10:32,588 Speaker 4: merger in seventeen Mike Tomlin coach years. In only four 245 00:10:32,628 --> 00:10:34,868 Speaker 4: of them have they won a playoff game, four out 246 00:10:34,908 --> 00:10:37,948 Speaker 4: of seventeen, and in the playoff losses they've had have 247 00:10:37,988 --> 00:10:38,388 Speaker 4: been bad. 248 00:10:38,548 --> 00:10:40,508 Speaker 7: Remember they were down twenty eight nothing to the Browns. 249 00:10:40,828 --> 00:10:43,788 Speaker 4: And I really feel like this offseason was this point 250 00:10:43,868 --> 00:10:46,348 Speaker 4: where there was a meetian somewhere in Pittsburgh and there 251 00:10:46,388 --> 00:10:48,308 Speaker 4: was a table that was flipped over and maybe there 252 00:10:48,308 --> 00:10:50,708 Speaker 4: was a throw up phone thrown against the wall. There 253 00:10:50,748 --> 00:10:52,828 Speaker 4: was no effort of like, you know, we drafted this 254 00:10:52,828 --> 00:10:55,228 Speaker 4: first round picking Kenny and he represents Pittsburgh. Let's just 255 00:10:55,228 --> 00:10:56,828 Speaker 4: figure it out. We're going to bring in Russ this 256 00:10:56,908 --> 00:11:00,868 Speaker 4: and they're just like, fine, go two years done. Deontae Johnson, 257 00:11:01,268 --> 00:11:03,428 Speaker 4: you don't block. You know, there's some things to show 258 00:11:03,468 --> 00:11:05,788 Speaker 4: up on tape about you go have fun being on 259 00:11:05,828 --> 00:11:08,228 Speaker 4: the Panthers. It's an unbelievable time right now where they 260 00:11:08,268 --> 00:11:10,948 Speaker 4: usually go so slow and instead we're getting right to it. 261 00:11:11,148 --> 00:11:13,148 Speaker 4: I don't know yet if it's gonna work. I don't 262 00:11:13,148 --> 00:11:15,388 Speaker 4: know if they're going to win two playoff games. 263 00:11:15,428 --> 00:11:15,908 Speaker 7: Next year. 264 00:11:16,228 --> 00:11:18,068 Speaker 4: But I like that they're not okay with winning no 265 00:11:18,148 --> 00:11:21,828 Speaker 4: playoff games for another year. Kenny Pickett, gone see you later. 266 00:11:21,988 --> 00:11:24,228 Speaker 4: Irrelevance that we will not talk about Kenny Pickett for 267 00:11:24,268 --> 00:11:24,748 Speaker 4: a long time. 268 00:11:24,828 --> 00:11:26,708 Speaker 7: We'll talk about the Steelers, We'll talk about the Eagles 269 00:11:27,028 --> 00:11:27,788 Speaker 7: moving on though. 270 00:11:27,948 --> 00:11:29,588 Speaker 4: I have to say, Jamie, when I looked away from 271 00:11:29,628 --> 00:11:31,548 Speaker 4: the screen and I kept hearing someone say it's time, 272 00:11:31,828 --> 00:11:33,988 Speaker 4: it's time, I was worried it was you and it 273 00:11:34,028 --> 00:11:34,468 Speaker 4: was time. 274 00:11:34,668 --> 00:11:36,348 Speaker 7: I'm very sensitive that stuff right now. 275 00:11:38,028 --> 00:11:39,508 Speaker 2: Well, Kyle, it's not like you can help me out 276 00:11:39,508 --> 00:11:42,348 Speaker 2: anyway since we don't know where you are, so you 277 00:11:42,348 --> 00:11:43,148 Speaker 2: you just hang tight. 278 00:11:43,188 --> 00:11:45,668 Speaker 7: We will inform I'm at the hospital, Jamie. I'm ready. 279 00:11:45,948 --> 00:11:48,348 Speaker 7: I'm ready. That's the big secret. 280 00:11:48,548 --> 00:11:51,028 Speaker 8: I got gloves, I got one of those beautiful I 281 00:11:51,028 --> 00:11:52,028 Speaker 8: got a light up here. 282 00:11:52,268 --> 00:11:52,948 Speaker 7: I'm ready. 283 00:11:54,108 --> 00:11:57,828 Speaker 2: The ultimate support system and teammate right there. 284 00:11:59,068 --> 00:12:01,988 Speaker 7: I know, jeez, that is a place that I would 285 00:12:02,028 --> 00:12:05,588 Speaker 7: want to be there to flip it out to a 286 00:12:05,588 --> 00:12:06,868 Speaker 7: base championship. 287 00:12:06,908 --> 00:12:09,828 Speaker 2: Football is the thing that any team wants to go 288 00:12:09,868 --> 00:12:13,108 Speaker 2: after hearing just Kyle cackle in the background. But the 289 00:12:13,148 --> 00:12:15,188 Speaker 2: thing is, if you're one of the top teams picking 290 00:12:15,228 --> 00:12:17,668 Speaker 2: in the draft. You're kind of far away from championship football. 291 00:12:17,668 --> 00:12:19,508 Speaker 2: The big trade over the weekend was justin fields to 292 00:12:19,548 --> 00:12:21,788 Speaker 2: the Steelers, and with the draft now just over them. 293 00:12:21,788 --> 00:12:22,628 Speaker 6: With the way the. 294 00:12:22,588 --> 00:12:26,348 Speaker 2: Bears are leaning heavily, it's reported to go with Caleb 295 00:12:26,388 --> 00:12:29,108 Speaker 2: Williams with that first overall pick. So let's jump. Let's 296 00:12:29,148 --> 00:12:33,068 Speaker 2: jump to the number two overall pick. The Commanders Washington 297 00:12:33,188 --> 00:12:35,708 Speaker 2: Peter new ownership in the last couple of years, new 298 00:12:35,748 --> 00:12:39,388 Speaker 2: team name over the last couple of years, new coaching staff. Now, 299 00:12:39,388 --> 00:12:41,148 Speaker 2: where does that leave the direction the Commander's go? 300 00:12:41,308 --> 00:12:45,108 Speaker 6: New general manager? Yes, new voices in his ear. I 301 00:12:45,148 --> 00:12:45,708 Speaker 6: was interested. 302 00:12:45,748 --> 00:12:49,908 Speaker 5: Bob Myers, who longtime general manager of the Golden State Warriors, 303 00:12:50,108 --> 00:12:52,588 Speaker 5: four time champion, did a lot there. He's now working 304 00:12:52,588 --> 00:12:55,348 Speaker 5: on ESPN. I'm watching him on ESPN, you know, bark 305 00:12:55,428 --> 00:12:57,908 Speaker 5: with Stevin A. Smith and Frendrick Perkins and doing stuff 306 00:12:57,908 --> 00:12:59,988 Speaker 5: that we do. But he had a huge role at 307 00:12:59,988 --> 00:13:02,268 Speaker 5: the combine. He was meeting with all the quarterbacks as 308 00:13:02,268 --> 00:13:04,148 Speaker 5: well and getting a chance to get to know them. 309 00:13:04,548 --> 00:13:06,948 Speaker 5: Josh Harris, the owner, he came to the combine for 310 00:13:07,468 --> 00:13:10,268 Speaker 5: to meet with some of the quarterbacks. The Commanders are 311 00:13:10,308 --> 00:13:12,508 Speaker 5: now on the clock and Adam Peters, who you might 312 00:13:12,548 --> 00:13:15,228 Speaker 5: not know at home as a household name, but for 313 00:13:15,428 --> 00:13:18,348 Speaker 5: years was John Lynch's right hand man in San Francisco 314 00:13:18,388 --> 00:13:20,708 Speaker 5: and before that had experienced in New England and Denver. 315 00:13:20,748 --> 00:13:23,348 Speaker 6: It has a really decorated career. Adam Peters is now 316 00:13:23,348 --> 00:13:23,828 Speaker 6: on the clock. 317 00:13:23,868 --> 00:13:26,468 Speaker 5: I think this makes the Commanders the team with the 318 00:13:26,588 --> 00:13:30,148 Speaker 5: keys of the entire NFL draft. I think it's now 319 00:13:30,588 --> 00:13:32,508 Speaker 5: it's you might as well put the card in for Chicago. 320 00:13:32,788 --> 00:13:34,668 Speaker 5: I don't see, we're gonna trust me. 321 00:13:35,108 --> 00:13:36,868 Speaker 6: There will be a lot of dialogue. Well, maybe Jayden 322 00:13:36,948 --> 00:13:38,068 Speaker 6: Daniels over Caleb Williams. 323 00:13:38,108 --> 00:13:40,028 Speaker 5: Why are we talking about Jaden Daniels? 324 00:13:40,028 --> 00:13:40,588 Speaker 6: We did? 325 00:13:40,868 --> 00:13:43,668 Speaker 5: I would imagine Caleb Williams was going to Chicago. Now 326 00:13:43,668 --> 00:13:45,828 Speaker 5: it's up to Washington, and the names you're gonna hear 327 00:13:46,108 --> 00:13:48,948 Speaker 5: are Jaden Daniels and Drake May. But as the JJ 328 00:13:49,068 --> 00:13:52,068 Speaker 5: McCarthy push starts getting going and that roller coaster seems 329 00:13:52,068 --> 00:13:53,868 Speaker 5: to be getting higher and higher and everything we hear, 330 00:13:54,028 --> 00:13:55,748 Speaker 5: there will be mock drafts that have him going to 331 00:13:55,788 --> 00:13:56,748 Speaker 5: the Commanders as well. 332 00:13:56,948 --> 00:13:57,668 Speaker 7: There are really. 333 00:13:57,548 --> 00:14:00,548 Speaker 5: Three quarterbacks to be analyzed at that number two spot, 334 00:14:01,228 --> 00:14:04,308 Speaker 5: and if the Commanders liked those three. They could take one, 335 00:14:04,868 --> 00:14:08,348 Speaker 5: or they could say, let's get cute, we like all three, 336 00:14:08,988 --> 00:14:10,588 Speaker 5: or we're like a fourth or a fit that might 337 00:14:10,628 --> 00:14:12,668 Speaker 5: not be up at this spot and the values not there, 338 00:14:12,708 --> 00:14:14,708 Speaker 5: Maybe we trade backing in some more things. They have 339 00:14:14,828 --> 00:14:17,028 Speaker 5: six at the top one hundred picks. I would imagine 340 00:14:17,068 --> 00:14:20,668 Speaker 5: quarterback is number two, especially with Marcus Mariota currently being 341 00:14:20,708 --> 00:14:22,948 Speaker 5: their number one and Sam Howell no longer there. But 342 00:14:22,988 --> 00:14:26,148 Speaker 5: I think the draft starts in Washington, not Chicago. As 343 00:14:26,228 --> 00:14:28,108 Speaker 5: we see how this thing shook out this past weekend, 344 00:14:28,308 --> 00:14:30,148 Speaker 5: very interesting with so many different picks. 345 00:14:30,148 --> 00:14:30,788 Speaker 7: I look at it. 346 00:14:30,828 --> 00:14:33,028 Speaker 8: As you mentioned, they brought in Marcus Marioda right now 347 00:14:33,108 --> 00:14:35,988 Speaker 8: on the roster, it's Mariota and Jake fromm as their 348 00:14:35,988 --> 00:14:39,428 Speaker 8: two quarterbacks when they traded away Sam Howe. Maybe not 349 00:14:39,508 --> 00:14:42,388 Speaker 8: as booked as all right, Chicago's gonna Getkayleb Williams at 350 00:14:42,468 --> 00:14:44,908 Speaker 8: number one, but I do imagine the Commanders are going 351 00:14:44,948 --> 00:14:46,988 Speaker 8: to go quarterback at number two unless they look at 352 00:14:47,028 --> 00:14:49,388 Speaker 8: these next three guys that you mentioned and they're like, well, 353 00:14:49,388 --> 00:14:52,068 Speaker 8: we don't feel like any of these guys are franchise quarterbacks. 354 00:14:52,188 --> 00:14:54,388 Speaker 8: We'll try again next year. Trade back and you go 355 00:14:54,468 --> 00:14:56,628 Speaker 8: with Marioda. But I look at this for them as 356 00:14:56,628 --> 00:14:59,668 Speaker 8: an opportunity. You guys just mentioned new ownership, new general manager, 357 00:14:59,748 --> 00:15:03,068 Speaker 8: new head coach, just such a newness in this city, 358 00:15:03,108 --> 00:15:05,868 Speaker 8: a newfound energy, and everybod he's so excited. I feel 359 00:15:05,868 --> 00:15:09,108 Speaker 8: like with that, you bring in a new quarterback that's 360 00:15:09,188 --> 00:15:12,388 Speaker 8: that pretty that you believe in, that can lead this franchise, 361 00:15:12,468 --> 00:15:14,788 Speaker 8: and why not go out there and draft him at 362 00:15:14,868 --> 00:15:17,788 Speaker 8: number two and bring him in. I imagine the Commanders 363 00:15:17,788 --> 00:15:20,748 Speaker 8: do go with a quarterback, and I felt like Mariota 364 00:15:20,868 --> 00:15:23,428 Speaker 8: was brought in as that veteran presence to be there 365 00:15:23,468 --> 00:15:24,348 Speaker 8: for this young guy. 366 00:15:24,628 --> 00:15:28,268 Speaker 9: Kyle thoughts interesting now year in years past, it might 367 00:15:28,268 --> 00:15:30,268 Speaker 9: be a little bit of an eye roll that Washington's 368 00:15:30,308 --> 00:15:32,548 Speaker 9: up there at number two. And you know, I mean, 369 00:15:32,588 --> 00:15:36,148 Speaker 9: you know Daniel Snyder, he's gonna take Jade and Daniels. 370 00:15:36,708 --> 00:15:39,068 Speaker 9: They always have Heisman Trophy winners. They've had six different 371 00:15:39,068 --> 00:15:41,708 Speaker 9: Heisman Trophy winners play for Washington during that time. The 372 00:15:41,788 --> 00:15:43,628 Speaker 9: last one they took Archie three, number two. This one 373 00:15:43,668 --> 00:15:45,708 Speaker 9: be number two. I think that'd be very predictable. We 374 00:15:45,748 --> 00:15:48,628 Speaker 9: don't know, we're in the upside down with Washington. We 375 00:15:48,668 --> 00:15:50,548 Speaker 9: don't know what they want. We don't know what kind 376 00:15:50,548 --> 00:15:51,308 Speaker 9: of player they want. 377 00:15:51,428 --> 00:15:53,308 Speaker 4: We don't know if they're gonna do something really practical 378 00:15:53,308 --> 00:15:55,628 Speaker 4: like Peter's talking about, and maybe trade down a spot, 379 00:15:55,748 --> 00:15:57,828 Speaker 4: maybe trade down five spots and go to battle what 380 00:15:57,868 --> 00:16:01,748 Speaker 4: they have. It's into the unknown, which is exciting and fresh. 381 00:16:01,908 --> 00:16:03,708 Speaker 4: Look in the years past, they might have traded the 382 00:16:03,708 --> 00:16:06,068 Speaker 4: next ten first picks. They move up to the Bears. 383 00:16:06,108 --> 00:16:08,228 Speaker 4: We don't know. I like it, though, Peter. I like 384 00:16:08,308 --> 00:16:10,148 Speaker 4: this in the same breath that you say. The card 385 00:16:10,268 --> 00:16:10,948 Speaker 4: is basically in. 386 00:16:11,228 --> 00:16:11,988 Speaker 7: But we never know. 387 00:16:12,028 --> 00:16:13,828 Speaker 4: We're gonna spend the next several weeks trying to say 388 00:16:13,828 --> 00:16:15,348 Speaker 4: maybe Chicago will maybe they won't. 389 00:16:15,468 --> 00:16:16,188 Speaker 7: I agree with you. 390 00:16:16,228 --> 00:16:19,948 Speaker 4: I think the Washington commanders, the new Washington Commanders, are 391 00:16:19,948 --> 00:16:20,948 Speaker 4: more or less on the clock. 392 00:16:24,108 --> 00:16:24,948 Speaker 6: It's time for a game. 393 00:16:24,988 --> 00:16:26,308 Speaker 7: We call we in or we out. 394 00:16:27,428 --> 00:16:31,308 Speaker 5: Oftentimes I'll say a statement, my coasts will agree or disagree. 395 00:16:31,348 --> 00:16:34,468 Speaker 5: And after a few days of silence, the Jets quietly 396 00:16:34,508 --> 00:16:37,988 Speaker 5: added several players to their roster, culminating with All Pro 397 00:16:38,108 --> 00:16:41,628 Speaker 5: left tackle Tyron Smith from Dallas, and they posted this yesterday. 398 00:16:41,828 --> 00:16:45,148 Speaker 5: This is the new Jets offensive line, new editions. Tyron Smith, 399 00:16:45,228 --> 00:16:49,468 Speaker 5: John Simpson from Baltimore, second year man, Joe Tipman, Elijah 400 00:16:49,508 --> 00:16:51,308 Speaker 5: Vera Tucker who went healthy is one of the best 401 00:16:51,348 --> 00:16:52,548 Speaker 5: in the game. And then they went and they traded 402 00:16:52,588 --> 00:16:55,988 Speaker 5: and got back Morgan Moses. That's a brick wall of 403 00:16:56,108 --> 00:16:59,228 Speaker 5: veterans and young guys alike. Suddenly the Jets have an 404 00:16:59,268 --> 00:17:02,068 Speaker 5: offensive line to protect their quarterback who only played four 405 00:17:02,228 --> 00:17:03,428 Speaker 5: snaps last year. 406 00:17:03,508 --> 00:17:05,108 Speaker 6: Here's the wien out question. 407 00:17:06,148 --> 00:17:09,348 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers has a greater chance to succeed in twenty 408 00:17:09,388 --> 00:17:12,028 Speaker 5: twenty four than he did in last year as much 409 00:17:12,108 --> 00:17:15,108 Speaker 5: typed to twenty twenty three offseason where he was behind 410 00:17:15,468 --> 00:17:17,988 Speaker 5: a porous offensive line and didn't necessarily have the skill 411 00:17:18,028 --> 00:17:18,708 Speaker 5: guys around him. 412 00:17:18,748 --> 00:17:21,068 Speaker 6: We know we out Jason, I'm going in on this. 413 00:17:21,148 --> 00:17:21,548 Speaker 7: I look at it. 414 00:17:21,628 --> 00:17:24,268 Speaker 8: Last year's offseason, all we talked about was Makai Beckton. 415 00:17:24,348 --> 00:17:26,788 Speaker 8: He was up there at the podium during conferences whether 416 00:17:26,828 --> 00:17:28,828 Speaker 8: he can do it or not. They had signed Dwayne Brown, 417 00:17:28,908 --> 00:17:31,468 Speaker 8: he was injured. There were so many question marks along 418 00:17:31,588 --> 00:17:33,748 Speaker 8: the offensive line, and went and got Will McDonald in 419 00:17:33,788 --> 00:17:34,228 Speaker 8: the draft in. 420 00:17:34,228 --> 00:17:34,868 Speaker 7: The first round. 421 00:17:34,908 --> 00:17:36,428 Speaker 8: I was like, well, why didn't they get a tackle? 422 00:17:36,468 --> 00:17:38,908 Speaker 8: That was all of the conversation. You look at this year, 423 00:17:38,948 --> 00:17:40,868 Speaker 8: you just talked about the veterans that they brought in. 424 00:17:41,068 --> 00:17:43,108 Speaker 8: You look at Brice Hall, He's going to be healthy 425 00:17:43,308 --> 00:17:45,548 Speaker 8: at the start of this season, no more pitch count 426 00:17:45,748 --> 00:17:48,068 Speaker 8: for him, and then the defense has all returned. My 427 00:17:48,148 --> 00:17:51,708 Speaker 8: biggest question mark with all of this is Aaron Rodgers. 428 00:17:51,828 --> 00:17:54,068 Speaker 8: He's now a year older from last year and he's 429 00:17:54,108 --> 00:17:57,188 Speaker 8: coming off a season ending injury. So yes, as great 430 00:17:57,228 --> 00:18:00,348 Speaker 8: as he is, this is something that is different territory. 431 00:18:00,388 --> 00:18:02,388 Speaker 8: This is new for him coming off an injury like 432 00:18:02,428 --> 00:18:03,548 Speaker 8: this and having to go out. 433 00:18:03,428 --> 00:18:05,628 Speaker 7: There and perform right away. We heard he was. 434 00:18:05,588 --> 00:18:08,468 Speaker 8: Practicing and doing everything last year as the season was 435 00:18:08,468 --> 00:18:10,388 Speaker 8: coming to a close, but as yet to be seen. 436 00:18:10,628 --> 00:18:13,388 Speaker 8: Once he gets out there on the field, better protection 437 00:18:13,508 --> 00:18:15,468 Speaker 8: goes a long way. So I am in on the 438 00:18:15,468 --> 00:18:17,788 Speaker 8: fact that that offensive line is shared up, but there 439 00:18:17,788 --> 00:18:20,188 Speaker 8: are still question marks when your quarterback is going to 440 00:18:20,188 --> 00:18:22,508 Speaker 8: be forty years old and still coming off a season 441 00:18:22,588 --> 00:18:23,308 Speaker 8: end the injury. 442 00:18:23,148 --> 00:18:26,388 Speaker 2: Absolutely question marks. I took a page out of Kyle 443 00:18:26,388 --> 00:18:29,748 Speaker 2: Brandt's playbook yesterday and I started watching The Dynasty on 444 00:18:29,788 --> 00:18:31,908 Speaker 2: Apple TV. Did have you seen it yet? You started it? 445 00:18:32,268 --> 00:18:33,108 Speaker 6: Episode eighty seven. 446 00:18:33,188 --> 00:18:36,348 Speaker 2: Kyle, get in here. I'm two episodes in and I 447 00:18:36,548 --> 00:18:39,828 Speaker 2: just kind of got through the Tom Brady young Tom 448 00:18:39,868 --> 00:18:43,188 Speaker 2: Brady commitment to being one of the guys with the 449 00:18:43,188 --> 00:18:47,028 Speaker 2: offensive line in the early onset of his career. I 450 00:18:47,108 --> 00:18:48,508 Speaker 2: love the commitment. 451 00:18:48,068 --> 00:18:48,868 Speaker 7: Out of it. 452 00:18:48,868 --> 00:18:50,908 Speaker 2: It makes me want to say in on this Aaron 453 00:18:50,948 --> 00:18:53,188 Speaker 2: Rodgers thing. But my question then to turn it around 454 00:18:53,308 --> 00:18:54,988 Speaker 2: is instead of we and we got, what kind of 455 00:18:55,028 --> 00:18:57,468 Speaker 2: hang is Aaron Rodgers doing with these new offensive line 456 00:18:57,468 --> 00:18:59,468 Speaker 2: guys that are going to protect him? Because the ultimate 457 00:18:59,508 --> 00:19:01,988 Speaker 2: line was like, if this guy Tom Brady can drink 458 00:19:02,028 --> 00:19:04,388 Speaker 2: me under the table, then I want to go out 459 00:19:04,428 --> 00:19:06,508 Speaker 2: to protect him on game day. So like, what's the 460 00:19:06,588 --> 00:19:08,148 Speaker 2: exchange going on here with Rogers? 461 00:19:08,148 --> 00:19:08,748 Speaker 7: That becomes my. 462 00:19:08,788 --> 00:19:11,828 Speaker 4: Question, Well, what's what's the Ammondola quote in there? Is 463 00:19:11,828 --> 00:19:14,148 Speaker 4: that you know, we worked for Bill, but we played 464 00:19:14,148 --> 00:19:16,908 Speaker 4: for Tom. All right, Danny, that's a quote. Put that 465 00:19:16,988 --> 00:19:21,028 Speaker 4: in the trailer. Listen, Rogers, Listen. All we knew last 466 00:19:21,068 --> 00:19:23,068 Speaker 4: year was at this you know, at this time when 467 00:19:23,148 --> 00:19:26,908 Speaker 4: Rogers joins the Jets, he's hanging out with with c 468 00:19:27,108 --> 00:19:30,428 Speaker 4: j Uzama and every single player. He's going to Broadway, 469 00:19:30,428 --> 00:19:32,548 Speaker 4: he's going to parties. It was like, I'm a Jet, 470 00:19:32,588 --> 00:19:34,188 Speaker 4: now I'm in New York, you know everything. 471 00:19:34,228 --> 00:19:35,628 Speaker 7: So I think he was trying. 472 00:19:35,788 --> 00:19:37,748 Speaker 4: I think the last picture I saw on the Rogers 473 00:19:37,828 --> 00:19:41,108 Speaker 4: Instagram he he's had some sort of retreat and he's 474 00:19:41,108 --> 00:19:42,388 Speaker 4: shirtless and he appears. 475 00:19:42,108 --> 00:19:43,628 Speaker 7: That some sort of paint on his face. 476 00:19:44,908 --> 00:19:48,708 Speaker 4: I don't know, We've we've gone well past that years 477 00:19:48,748 --> 00:19:50,428 Speaker 4: ago in terms of what makes him tick. 478 00:19:50,788 --> 00:19:52,628 Speaker 7: I know this look it was. 479 00:19:52,708 --> 00:19:57,028 Speaker 4: It was four snaps right, okay, and two of the 480 00:19:57,108 --> 00:19:59,668 Speaker 4: passes he threw he was like badly pressured. In the 481 00:19:59,708 --> 00:20:01,348 Speaker 4: five seconds he was out on the field for. 482 00:20:01,268 --> 00:20:03,548 Speaker 7: The Jets, they were all over him and it. 483 00:20:03,628 --> 00:20:06,588 Speaker 4: Was like I remember, it was like all the Bills 484 00:20:06,588 --> 00:20:09,828 Speaker 4: pass rushers the second he snapped the ball were on them, 485 00:20:09,868 --> 00:20:12,268 Speaker 4: and that's eventually would end up getting hurt. I think 486 00:20:12,308 --> 00:20:15,108 Speaker 4: I'm going in on this, maybe against my better judgment, 487 00:20:15,548 --> 00:20:17,948 Speaker 4: for one reason. It's not gonna be as much hype. 488 00:20:17,948 --> 00:20:19,788 Speaker 4: We're not gonna do the hard knocks. We're not gonna 489 00:20:19,828 --> 00:20:21,668 Speaker 4: do Oh my god, Rogers is in New York. Let's 490 00:20:21,708 --> 00:20:25,508 Speaker 4: do backflips now. I mean, there is a certain politics attachments, 491 00:20:25,548 --> 00:20:28,268 Speaker 4: and that is wild, but it always is, I think Peter. 492 00:20:28,348 --> 00:20:31,028 Speaker 4: When there's so much stuff floating around, and there's there's 493 00:20:31,108 --> 00:20:33,828 Speaker 4: Kennedy family members and there's this, and there's that. I 494 00:20:33,828 --> 00:20:35,388 Speaker 4: think you just have to go back to the core, 495 00:20:35,508 --> 00:20:36,868 Speaker 4: and I think you have to go back to the 496 00:20:36,908 --> 00:20:38,948 Speaker 4: lineman in front of him, and you just showed the graphic. 497 00:20:39,348 --> 00:20:42,628 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say yes, because why the hell not. 498 00:20:42,748 --> 00:20:44,748 Speaker 7: I think it's I'm in that they have a better 499 00:20:44,748 --> 00:20:47,868 Speaker 7: shot this year. Yeah, I think the. 500 00:20:48,228 --> 00:20:50,668 Speaker 5: Hype thing is real. You know, hard knocks last year, 501 00:20:50,868 --> 00:20:54,508 Speaker 5: all the excitement in New York, it's pretty dead right now, 502 00:20:54,628 --> 00:20:56,668 Speaker 5: Like you can't get that excited about Well, we brought 503 00:20:56,668 --> 00:20:59,108 Speaker 5: in Morgan Moses, good player, but like there's no one 504 00:20:59,188 --> 00:20:59,868 Speaker 5: doing a parade. 505 00:20:59,908 --> 00:21:01,348 Speaker 6: It's not like you brought in Rogers. 506 00:21:01,388 --> 00:21:04,908 Speaker 5: So I feel like the expectations are far lower. 507 00:21:05,308 --> 00:21:06,588 Speaker 6: I also feel like things are a. 508 00:21:06,588 --> 00:21:09,508 Speaker 5: Little warmer with the coaching staff and I think the 509 00:21:09,588 --> 00:21:11,668 Speaker 5: general manager there's some more pressure this year. 510 00:21:11,908 --> 00:21:14,348 Speaker 6: It's like you got this year, guys, go win. 511 00:21:15,108 --> 00:21:16,588 Speaker 5: I'm not sure they're in a better spot than they 512 00:21:16,628 --> 00:21:18,588 Speaker 5: were last year, which was really a. 513 00:21:18,548 --> 00:21:22,388 Speaker 6: Parade down Broadway. Yeah, the vibes are all right, the vibes, 514 00:21:22,428 --> 00:21:22,748 Speaker 6: I don't know. 515 00:21:22,788 --> 00:21:25,348 Speaker 5: And to your point, let's see when Rogers gets here, 516 00:21:25,348 --> 00:21:26,268 Speaker 5: what kind of shape he's in? 517 00:21:26,308 --> 00:21:28,428 Speaker 6: All right? And also they're wide receivers I got. 518 00:21:28,428 --> 00:21:34,228 Speaker 5: I'm looking at it now, Garrett Wilson, Jason Brownlee, Xavier Gibson, Charles, 519 00:21:34,228 --> 00:21:37,868 Speaker 5: Irvin or Irvin Charles, Alan Lazard, and Malik Taylor. 520 00:21:38,788 --> 00:21:39,908 Speaker 6: We'll see Kyle's living. 521 00:21:39,948 --> 00:21:43,068 Speaker 7: I don't mean to Charles, which is that I don't know. 522 00:21:43,268 --> 00:21:49,348 Speaker 5: No, that's I'm sorry, Sorry about Irvin, Charles. Cobby'll be back. 523 00:21:49,508 --> 00:21:52,308 Speaker 5: They'll find a way. Yeah, you know, Charles, I feel 524 00:21:52,388 --> 00:21:55,868 Speaker 5: terrible Irvan. Charles went to Indiana of Pennsylvania and we're 525 00:21:55,908 --> 00:21:57,588 Speaker 5: giggling at him six four twenty. 526 00:21:57,628 --> 00:21:59,348 Speaker 6: I hope he has an all Pro career. 527 00:21:59,348 --> 00:22:05,348 Speaker 5: We can run this clip back someday. 528 00:22:07,828 --> 00:22:12,748 Speaker 2: We are inspecting what do mingle Patriots have done? That 529 00:22:12,828 --> 00:22:16,748 Speaker 2: was Belichick right there block who will look very different 530 00:22:16,788 --> 00:22:18,388 Speaker 2: once this season gets underway. 531 00:22:18,388 --> 00:22:19,388 Speaker 6: In twenty twenty. 532 00:22:19,148 --> 00:22:22,308 Speaker 2: Four, they traded away their starting quarterback from last season 533 00:22:22,308 --> 00:22:23,028 Speaker 2: and Mac Jones. 534 00:22:23,188 --> 00:22:23,988 Speaker 6: They've lost a couple of. 535 00:22:23,988 --> 00:22:27,268 Speaker 2: Players that had been mainstays in New England, but they 536 00:22:27,308 --> 00:22:29,788 Speaker 2: brought in new blood and a new head coach and 537 00:22:29,868 --> 00:22:33,268 Speaker 2: Drod Mayo. So here's what new Patriots running back Antonio 538 00:22:33,348 --> 00:22:36,028 Speaker 2: Gibson had to say about his initial impressions of his 539 00:22:36,148 --> 00:22:37,188 Speaker 2: new head coach. 540 00:22:39,868 --> 00:22:43,628 Speaker 10: Coach sat down with him. You know, we had good conversation. 541 00:22:44,068 --> 00:22:48,148 Speaker 10: Definitely a different vibe from a head coach, just from 542 00:22:48,428 --> 00:22:51,548 Speaker 10: the one day I met him. You know, nothing against 543 00:22:51,588 --> 00:22:54,148 Speaker 10: coach Vera, but like he sat down and just having 544 00:22:54,268 --> 00:22:57,348 Speaker 10: like like just different conversations. He didn't even sound like 545 00:22:57,388 --> 00:22:59,268 Speaker 10: not to you know, put him under it, but like 546 00:22:59,348 --> 00:23:01,148 Speaker 10: it didn't sound like a coach that he sounded like 547 00:23:01,148 --> 00:23:03,748 Speaker 10: he was talking to one of the guys. And you know, 548 00:23:03,748 --> 00:23:05,868 Speaker 10: I feel like that's that's something you know, that might 549 00:23:05,908 --> 00:23:07,548 Speaker 10: be a positive thing in the locker room for him 550 00:23:07,548 --> 00:23:09,908 Speaker 10: to be able to relate and communicate like that and 551 00:23:10,428 --> 00:23:14,148 Speaker 10: you know, kind of understanding both sides of it. And also, man, 552 00:23:14,188 --> 00:23:17,868 Speaker 10: he showed my daughter a hell of a time, you know, 553 00:23:17,988 --> 00:23:20,108 Speaker 10: brought him to the office and you know, just you know, 554 00:23:20,388 --> 00:23:23,548 Speaker 10: just treated her with love. And I appreciate that for sure, 555 00:23:24,108 --> 00:23:27,148 Speaker 10: especially the first time meeting them. 556 00:23:27,588 --> 00:23:32,708 Speaker 2: Open door policy, family vibes, different feel perhaps in New England. 557 00:23:32,948 --> 00:23:35,148 Speaker 2: What do we make of how the Patriots have gone 558 00:23:35,148 --> 00:23:37,148 Speaker 2: about their off season so far? Peter, You could start 559 00:23:37,148 --> 00:23:39,268 Speaker 2: all the way back in that crazy forty eight hours 560 00:23:39,308 --> 00:23:42,828 Speaker 2: of Belichick moving on and then it was the DRAWD 561 00:23:42,868 --> 00:23:43,268 Speaker 2: mail era. 562 00:23:43,588 --> 00:23:45,828 Speaker 6: Yeah, and Nevers thought that maybe they'd bring in Vaible. 563 00:23:45,828 --> 00:23:47,348 Speaker 5: We saw the news over the weekend Forrable was gonna 564 00:23:47,348 --> 00:23:49,148 Speaker 5: work as a consultant with the Cleveland Browns this year. 565 00:23:49,148 --> 00:23:50,868 Speaker 6: And that's where verbel ends up and they go with Mayo. 566 00:23:50,948 --> 00:23:52,748 Speaker 6: They go from the institution and they bring them up. 567 00:23:53,748 --> 00:23:56,428 Speaker 5: Quiet off season for the Patriots, a lot of rumors 568 00:23:56,428 --> 00:23:58,148 Speaker 5: of they're going to go big on Calvin Ridley. They 569 00:23:58,148 --> 00:23:59,988 Speaker 5: didn't land Calvin Ridley, whether they were in the talks 570 00:24:00,068 --> 00:24:01,748 Speaker 5: or not, there's a lot of rumors they're going to 571 00:24:01,788 --> 00:24:03,868 Speaker 5: go big on a big free agent defensive player. 572 00:24:04,068 --> 00:24:06,788 Speaker 6: They they got the Ouch deal on a bargain from 573 00:24:06,788 --> 00:24:07,468 Speaker 6: what it seems like. 574 00:24:07,548 --> 00:24:10,388 Speaker 5: But I look at this Patriots roster right now and 575 00:24:10,708 --> 00:24:13,428 Speaker 5: I don't know, did they not have any interest in 576 00:24:13,508 --> 00:24:17,628 Speaker 5: justin fields to me that at this point in the 577 00:24:17,668 --> 00:24:20,628 Speaker 5: stage of where New England's at, are they so sold 578 00:24:20,628 --> 00:24:22,228 Speaker 5: on one of these quarterbacks at number three, Because if 579 00:24:22,228 --> 00:24:26,108 Speaker 5: you've numbered three, you don't determine which quarterback you get. 580 00:24:26,228 --> 00:24:28,908 Speaker 5: You get delta quarterback. You know the Bears will take one. 581 00:24:29,268 --> 00:24:31,308 Speaker 5: Either Washington or whoever moves up to two is gonna 582 00:24:31,348 --> 00:24:33,868 Speaker 5: take one, and then you're given the third pick. So 583 00:24:33,908 --> 00:24:35,948 Speaker 5: you've got to try to convince yourself. We love may 584 00:24:35,988 --> 00:24:37,668 Speaker 5: we love Daniels, we love both of them no matter 585 00:24:37,668 --> 00:24:40,388 Speaker 5: what it is. Or are you like we're so blown 586 00:24:40,428 --> 00:24:43,508 Speaker 5: away by Marvin Harris. I'm looking at that roster right now. 587 00:24:43,508 --> 00:24:46,148 Speaker 5: I'm looking at that team. They have kept to the 588 00:24:46,388 --> 00:24:49,948 Speaker 5: Belichick mantra even without Belichick there of being fiscally sound 589 00:24:50,108 --> 00:24:53,308 Speaker 5: and not making a major splash. I give it an 590 00:24:53,348 --> 00:24:55,508 Speaker 5: incomplete for their offseason right now. And I don't know 591 00:24:55,588 --> 00:24:57,708 Speaker 5: what Gerrod Mayo and his coaching staff is gonna bring. 592 00:24:57,748 --> 00:25:00,988 Speaker 5: But I like hearing Antonio Gibson saying what a positive, 593 00:25:01,428 --> 00:25:03,508 Speaker 5: you know, conversation they had. But you're telling me Antonio 594 00:25:03,588 --> 00:25:06,268 Speaker 5: Gibson is the big free agent signing. It's it's not 595 00:25:06,348 --> 00:25:10,068 Speaker 5: Calvin Ridley. That's that's not trading for Brian Burns, and 596 00:25:10,108 --> 00:25:13,148 Speaker 5: that's certainly not going out and getting a major quarterback 597 00:25:13,228 --> 00:25:14,828 Speaker 5: like other teams went and did I think they were 598 00:25:14,868 --> 00:25:17,268 Speaker 5: linked to everyone from cousins to fields. 599 00:25:16,828 --> 00:25:17,908 Speaker 6: To you name it. 600 00:25:17,948 --> 00:25:20,068 Speaker 5: And they ship Mac Off for what I said was 601 00:25:20,068 --> 00:25:21,748 Speaker 5: a ham sandwich and a bag of baseball. So that's 602 00:25:21,748 --> 00:25:23,948 Speaker 5: what they got in exchange, and then they didn't make 603 00:25:23,948 --> 00:25:25,948 Speaker 5: anything else on the quarterback with move except Kobe Brissett, 604 00:25:25,988 --> 00:25:27,548 Speaker 5: who they know what he is, and he's a nice 605 00:25:28,148 --> 00:25:30,748 Speaker 5: number one until you have your roarchy quarterback ready to go. 606 00:25:30,788 --> 00:25:32,508 Speaker 6: He's a great veteran leader who guys loves. 607 00:25:32,508 --> 00:25:35,908 Speaker 5: So I'm not necessarily doing flips over the Patriots offseason, 608 00:25:35,948 --> 00:25:37,508 Speaker 5: and yet I don't want to great it yet until 609 00:25:37,508 --> 00:25:39,988 Speaker 5: I see after the draft what they bring in at quarterback. 610 00:25:40,028 --> 00:25:42,028 Speaker 2: I think the type of Deli sandwich is important when 611 00:25:42,068 --> 00:25:46,068 Speaker 2: Peter kind of qualifies like what back, Yeah, it's like 612 00:25:46,108 --> 00:25:49,908 Speaker 2: really it's rising. The bag of balls has actually changed 613 00:25:49,908 --> 00:25:52,828 Speaker 2: from football to baseball at times, but like now it's baseball, yeah, 614 00:25:52,828 --> 00:25:55,868 Speaker 2: but basic Deli sandwich season for back Jones. 615 00:25:55,988 --> 00:25:57,748 Speaker 5: On the transaction wire, I said mac Jones was traded 616 00:25:57,788 --> 00:26:00,948 Speaker 5: for a ham sandwich. I can only I'm a reporter. 617 00:26:01,308 --> 00:26:01,828 Speaker 6: All I can do. 618 00:26:02,028 --> 00:26:05,308 Speaker 8: It's baseball season right now. I'll look at the Patriots 619 00:26:05,308 --> 00:26:07,748 Speaker 8: and to your point, you think about it, for the 620 00:26:07,748 --> 00:26:10,908 Speaker 8: past two decades, it's been Bill Belichick and he's been 621 00:26:10,948 --> 00:26:13,508 Speaker 8: the voice of the New England Patriots, and I kind 622 00:26:13,548 --> 00:26:15,788 Speaker 8: of mirrored us to this young kid. You've been kind 623 00:26:15,788 --> 00:26:18,668 Speaker 8: of under your dad's rule, and your dad always would say, hey, 624 00:26:18,668 --> 00:26:20,468 Speaker 8: as long as you're under my roof, you're gonna live 625 00:26:20,508 --> 00:26:22,508 Speaker 8: by my rules. If you don't like it, you can 626 00:26:22,508 --> 00:26:23,548 Speaker 8: get out on your own. 627 00:26:23,348 --> 00:26:24,788 Speaker 7: And figure out life for yourself. 628 00:26:24,988 --> 00:26:26,988 Speaker 8: And you're that young kid that you know what you 629 00:26:27,068 --> 00:26:29,268 Speaker 8: finally get from under the thumb and now you're out 630 00:26:29,268 --> 00:26:31,308 Speaker 8: on your own and you're telling all your buddies like, 631 00:26:31,308 --> 00:26:33,148 Speaker 8: oh yo, we're hitting the club, We're staying out as 632 00:26:33,228 --> 00:26:35,828 Speaker 8: late as we want, we're having house parties. We're going 633 00:26:35,868 --> 00:26:38,188 Speaker 8: to go all in. And that was Jermeo at the 634 00:26:38,188 --> 00:26:40,948 Speaker 8: beginning of his tenure. He said, Hey, we have cash 635 00:26:41,148 --> 00:26:43,748 Speaker 8: to burn, and you're fired up, you're excited, you can't 636 00:26:43,788 --> 00:26:45,868 Speaker 8: wait to see what the night life is going to 637 00:26:46,028 --> 00:26:48,308 Speaker 8: hit for. And then all of a sudden, you get 638 00:26:48,308 --> 00:26:50,068 Speaker 8: there and you start looking at the rundown of the 639 00:26:50,188 --> 00:26:52,988 Speaker 8: utilities and everything you got going off, and how much 640 00:26:53,028 --> 00:26:54,988 Speaker 8: furniture costs and what the tax is going to be. 641 00:26:55,028 --> 00:26:58,468 Speaker 8: Like you're like, hey, fellas, about that club. We're not 642 00:26:58,508 --> 00:27:00,748 Speaker 8: gonna be able to do table service, no bottle service. 643 00:27:00,788 --> 00:27:02,868 Speaker 8: We're gonna have to go in through general admission just 644 00:27:02,908 --> 00:27:04,548 Speaker 8: twenty dollars. And you look up and you're like, you 645 00:27:04,588 --> 00:27:07,148 Speaker 8: know what we were responsible. It was a good month, 646 00:27:07,348 --> 00:27:09,068 Speaker 8: and now it's a Friday night and you look around 647 00:27:09,068 --> 00:27:10,228 Speaker 8: and you're just like, whoa. 648 00:27:10,188 --> 00:27:11,188 Speaker 7: This is what we're dealing with. 649 00:27:11,188 --> 00:27:13,428 Speaker 8: And I feel like that's the Patriots right now, because 650 00:27:13,468 --> 00:27:15,348 Speaker 8: that voice is still in their head of. 651 00:27:15,228 --> 00:27:16,828 Speaker 7: Like, all right, we gotta be responsible. 652 00:27:16,828 --> 00:27:19,868 Speaker 8: We're gonna make the necessary picks and moves to build 653 00:27:19,948 --> 00:27:22,308 Speaker 8: our team. And I think that started with them kind 654 00:27:22,308 --> 00:27:25,548 Speaker 8: of taking care of some of their own transition, tagging 655 00:27:25,788 --> 00:27:30,028 Speaker 8: Kyle Douggar offensive lineman, big Michael Winnle, keeping him there 656 00:27:30,268 --> 00:27:32,468 Speaker 8: in New England. Those are the moves that we've kind 657 00:27:32,508 --> 00:27:35,388 Speaker 8: of seen throughout the years from the New England Patriots 658 00:27:35,428 --> 00:27:38,508 Speaker 8: of keeping guys of their own a Devin mccordy, a 659 00:27:38,588 --> 00:27:42,068 Speaker 8: Dante high Tower, a James White, a Julian Edelman, a 660 00:27:42,188 --> 00:27:46,748 Speaker 8: Rob Gonkowski, keeping those guys in there to build your 661 00:27:47,588 --> 00:27:51,748 Speaker 8: organization around those centerstones, those centerpieces, guys that do it 662 00:27:51,788 --> 00:27:55,028 Speaker 8: the exact right way. Who am I to say that 663 00:27:55,028 --> 00:27:55,828 Speaker 8: that's the wrong. 664 00:27:55,628 --> 00:27:56,028 Speaker 7: Way to go. 665 00:27:56,108 --> 00:27:58,868 Speaker 8: They've had a lot of success doing it that way. Yes, 666 00:27:58,908 --> 00:28:01,148 Speaker 8: it's gonna be a different vibe in a building, which 667 00:28:01,188 --> 00:28:04,188 Speaker 8: we heard from Antonio Gibbson talking about who Jerai Meo 668 00:28:04,308 --> 00:28:06,828 Speaker 8: is as a person beyond just a coach and how 669 00:28:06,868 --> 00:28:09,388 Speaker 8: personable he is. That's going to be a different vibe 670 00:28:09,428 --> 00:28:12,028 Speaker 8: of Bill Belichick. But I look at their off season 671 00:28:12,068 --> 00:28:14,988 Speaker 8: moves and you're just like that Friday night, I don't 672 00:28:14,988 --> 00:28:17,188 Speaker 8: really know, like I didn't really do anything to move 673 00:28:17,268 --> 00:28:19,988 Speaker 8: the needle at all. I like the Jacoby Brissett move. 674 00:28:20,028 --> 00:28:21,948 Speaker 8: He's a veteran, he's a leader. But I don't know 675 00:28:21,988 --> 00:28:24,108 Speaker 8: that there's enough in that locker room for whether it's 676 00:28:24,188 --> 00:28:26,948 Speaker 8: Jacoby Brissett, whether it's Jaydeon Daniels or Drake May to 677 00:28:27,108 --> 00:28:30,348 Speaker 8: really do anything in the AFC East this year. But 678 00:28:30,388 --> 00:28:31,828 Speaker 8: I feel like they're looking at it as like, you 679 00:28:31,828 --> 00:28:33,868 Speaker 8: know what, we're gonna be responsible and we're gonna build 680 00:28:33,868 --> 00:28:35,708 Speaker 8: for the future. When I just go out and spend 681 00:28:35,748 --> 00:28:37,828 Speaker 8: a ton of cash and just bring guys in and 682 00:28:37,868 --> 00:28:40,588 Speaker 8: make moves. But it's a rough Friday night right now, Kyle. 683 00:28:40,588 --> 00:28:42,628 Speaker 8: I don't know what you're looking like, which are prospects 684 00:28:42,868 --> 00:28:43,708 Speaker 8: all for the weekend? 685 00:28:44,468 --> 00:28:46,348 Speaker 7: Those utilities hit though, don't they? Jay? 686 00:28:46,748 --> 00:28:46,908 Speaker 4: Oh? 687 00:28:47,108 --> 00:28:49,108 Speaker 7: Utility all right? Control. 688 00:28:49,988 --> 00:28:52,668 Speaker 4: If you look at the Patriots, you're like, look, that's 689 00:28:52,788 --> 00:28:56,148 Speaker 4: very nice that you're being prudent and or frugal. You 690 00:28:56,188 --> 00:28:58,748 Speaker 4: know how bad we were last year. Maybe maybe I'm 691 00:28:58,748 --> 00:29:01,628 Speaker 4: not saying we Bruno mars this thing, you know, but 692 00:29:02,588 --> 00:29:06,668 Speaker 4: that's a little aggressive. I looked at the Patriots fans 693 00:29:06,748 --> 00:29:07,828 Speaker 4: right now. You know what I would say to them. 694 00:29:07,868 --> 00:29:11,708 Speaker 4: I'd say, well, the Celtics are really good. Get excited 695 00:29:11,708 --> 00:29:14,708 Speaker 4: about that, just to like basketball in Boston because the 696 00:29:14,748 --> 00:29:17,108 Speaker 4: Celtics are really good. Here's why I look at the 697 00:29:17,148 --> 00:29:20,788 Speaker 4: Patriots is that they're clearly gonna be looked at as 698 00:29:20,828 --> 00:29:24,628 Speaker 4: the fourth team in the AFC East. All right, yeah, Dolphins, Bills, Jets. 699 00:29:24,948 --> 00:29:27,268 Speaker 4: I don't know if there's another team in any other 700 00:29:27,348 --> 00:29:30,428 Speaker 4: division that is looked at as far down as the 701 00:29:30,508 --> 00:29:33,188 Speaker 4: number four team in their own division as the Patriots are, 702 00:29:33,268 --> 00:29:35,868 Speaker 4: and that includes the Panthers in relation to the rest 703 00:29:35,908 --> 00:29:39,028 Speaker 4: of their division. This is gonna be a dead bottom 704 00:29:39,148 --> 00:29:42,468 Speaker 4: fourth team. And look, you're excited about Drod Mayo, sure, 705 00:29:42,548 --> 00:29:48,788 Speaker 4: but this offense was unbelievably bad. Do you remember last year? 706 00:29:48,788 --> 00:29:52,388 Speaker 4: I mean, where's the documentary on this the Patriots season 707 00:29:52,708 --> 00:29:57,868 Speaker 4: where Dennis Allen went into Foxborough in front of the 708 00:29:57,908 --> 00:30:02,588 Speaker 4: banners and shut out the Patriots. Where's the documentary on 709 00:30:02,628 --> 00:30:07,708 Speaker 4: where Brandon's Daily went into Foxborough? In front of the 710 00:30:07,748 --> 00:30:10,748 Speaker 4: banners and shut out the Patriots. They were shut out 711 00:30:10,828 --> 00:30:14,908 Speaker 4: twice last year by guys who shouldn't be shutting teams outs. 712 00:30:14,908 --> 00:30:17,148 Speaker 4: All right, so it's fine. It happened and fell apart. 713 00:30:17,148 --> 00:30:19,428 Speaker 4: Belijek needed to go fine. 714 00:30:19,188 --> 00:30:21,348 Speaker 7: So go fix it. My god. 715 00:30:21,508 --> 00:30:23,988 Speaker 4: I love Antonio Gibson as much as the next person. 716 00:30:24,228 --> 00:30:26,268 Speaker 4: He's always that guy you're like. I guess I'll start 717 00:30:26,348 --> 00:30:29,668 Speaker 4: him during the bye week. I'm happy for him and 718 00:30:29,708 --> 00:30:31,828 Speaker 4: his kids, and I'm glad that coach Mayo was very 719 00:30:31,828 --> 00:30:34,788 Speaker 4: friendly to him. Are we gonna score any points? Because 720 00:30:34,788 --> 00:30:37,428 Speaker 4: the Jets are gonna be reloaded? The Dolphins are the Dolphins, 721 00:30:37,468 --> 00:30:38,268 Speaker 4: and the Bills and the Bills? 722 00:30:38,268 --> 00:30:39,428 Speaker 7: Who are you? 723 00:30:39,428 --> 00:30:43,108 Speaker 4: You can have an adjustment period, everybody does, but what 724 00:30:43,188 --> 00:30:46,468 Speaker 4: are you doing to adjust? I can't believe this. I 725 00:30:46,508 --> 00:30:49,468 Speaker 4: can't believe we're supposed to be excited. Look, Kobe Bissett's 726 00:30:49,508 --> 00:30:50,068 Speaker 4: a great guy. 727 00:30:50,268 --> 00:30:50,988 Speaker 7: What are we doing? 728 00:30:51,308 --> 00:30:53,348 Speaker 4: I guess they're gonna draft a quarterback that's great. What 729 00:30:53,508 --> 00:30:55,988 Speaker 4: is he gonna show up to? We've seen recently what 730 00:30:56,028 --> 00:30:59,308 Speaker 4: happens in these quarterbacks. You draft really high and there's nothing. 731 00:30:59,028 --> 00:31:01,228 Speaker 7: To show up to. Justin fields. 732 00:31:01,588 --> 00:31:04,988 Speaker 4: Rice Young Robertkraft has never had a top three draft 733 00:31:05,028 --> 00:31:06,668 Speaker 4: pick ever since he bought the team. 734 00:31:06,708 --> 00:31:08,868 Speaker 7: He has never had it. He has it now. Just 735 00:31:09,428 --> 00:31:10,348 Speaker 7: know that, like you got it. 736 00:31:10,548 --> 00:31:12,508 Speaker 4: You gotta put some furniture, You gotta have some food 737 00:31:12,548 --> 00:31:14,188 Speaker 4: in the fridge when they get there. It's not gonna 738 00:31:14,188 --> 00:31:16,068 Speaker 4: go well. I just can't believe it. They were so 739 00:31:16,228 --> 00:31:18,228 Speaker 4: bad last year and they're going to draft a quarterback. 740 00:31:18,268 --> 00:31:20,388 Speaker 4: That's great, but what is left for him? I can't 741 00:31:20,388 --> 00:31:22,428 Speaker 4: see a team across the NFL that is furthered down 742 00:31:22,428 --> 00:31:23,748 Speaker 4: as the number four team in the division. 743 00:31:23,748 --> 00:31:25,988 Speaker 7: That's the Patriots. Yeah. 744 00:31:26,028 --> 00:31:28,668 Speaker 2: The Patriots, Kyle, to your point, might lead the who 745 00:31:28,748 --> 00:31:31,348 Speaker 2: are you? Conversation the most this offseason because we can't 746 00:31:31,388 --> 00:31:33,308 Speaker 2: quite figure them out. And a lot of that has 747 00:31:33,348 --> 00:31:35,348 Speaker 2: to do with you watch a team go through free agency, 748 00:31:35,428 --> 00:31:37,628 Speaker 2: you're like, I think I'm starting to understand your identity, 749 00:31:37,668 --> 00:31:41,028 Speaker 2: and then maybe the draft solidifies that assumption. But because 750 00:31:41,068 --> 00:31:42,908 Speaker 2: they've kept their cards so close to the vest and 751 00:31:42,948 --> 00:31:45,268 Speaker 2: they won't show us who they are now we're waiting 752 00:31:45,268 --> 00:31:47,908 Speaker 2: for the draft and to find them. I'm curious about their 753 00:31:47,908 --> 00:31:50,588 Speaker 2: coaching staff in the who are you? Capacity and mccordial 754 00:31:50,588 --> 00:31:54,068 Speaker 2: a'll lean on you here, what from what you know 755 00:31:54,188 --> 00:31:58,348 Speaker 2: of these guys and their personalities and knowing Girod and 756 00:31:58,468 --> 00:32:00,468 Speaker 2: he is the one that's bringing in, you know, a 757 00:32:00,548 --> 00:32:04,868 Speaker 2: Dante high Tower. Ben McAdoo as a senior offensive isa 758 00:32:05,228 --> 00:32:07,268 Speaker 2: talk to us about just the nature of this coaching 759 00:32:07,348 --> 00:32:08,588 Speaker 2: room and what these meetings are like. 760 00:32:08,708 --> 00:32:10,508 Speaker 8: And as you look on this list, a lot of 761 00:32:10,508 --> 00:32:13,348 Speaker 8: these guys are new that are being brought in that 762 00:32:13,388 --> 00:32:15,508 Speaker 8: are already on the website. I think there's gonna be 763 00:32:15,548 --> 00:32:18,028 Speaker 8: some holdovers of guys that were on that staff a 764 00:32:18,108 --> 00:32:20,348 Speaker 8: year ago, especially on the defensive side of the ball 765 00:32:20,508 --> 00:32:23,588 Speaker 8: with DeMarcus Covington taking over, that will remain there. But 766 00:32:23,628 --> 00:32:26,668 Speaker 8: when you look offensively, it's a lot of different guys. 767 00:32:26,668 --> 00:32:28,788 Speaker 8: And you mentioned Dante high Tower is a guy that 768 00:32:28,828 --> 00:32:30,028 Speaker 8: played for a long time there. 769 00:32:30,188 --> 00:32:31,068 Speaker 7: He's a young guy. 770 00:32:31,108 --> 00:32:34,508 Speaker 8: Taekwan Underwood came from college as an assistant wide receiver coach. 771 00:32:34,708 --> 00:32:35,708 Speaker 6: He's a young guy. 772 00:32:35,788 --> 00:32:38,108 Speaker 8: Tyler Hughes as a guy brought back that was in 773 00:32:38,188 --> 00:32:40,748 Speaker 8: New England before. But I also think when you're bringing 774 00:32:40,788 --> 00:32:43,948 Speaker 8: in some of this young coaching staff to the effect 775 00:32:43,988 --> 00:32:46,788 Speaker 8: of what Gerard Meo is, you have veterans like mcadoon, 776 00:32:46,868 --> 00:32:48,828 Speaker 8: like Van Pell who have been around it for a 777 00:32:48,868 --> 00:32:52,188 Speaker 8: long time, specifically on the offensive side of the ball. 778 00:32:52,228 --> 00:32:54,388 Speaker 8: That's going to try to help create change. And you 779 00:32:54,428 --> 00:32:56,828 Speaker 8: look at Van Pell and Jacoby Brissett. Those two guys 780 00:32:56,868 --> 00:33:00,068 Speaker 8: were together in Cleveland the year Deshaun Watson was suspended 781 00:33:00,108 --> 00:33:02,308 Speaker 8: for all of those games and Jacobe was handed the 782 00:33:02,388 --> 00:33:05,468 Speaker 8: keys of the organization, and everybody that locker room talked 783 00:33:05,468 --> 00:33:08,308 Speaker 8: about his leadership and what he provided for that team 784 00:33:08,348 --> 00:33:10,668 Speaker 8: throughout that time. I think that's some of what they're 785 00:33:10,708 --> 00:33:13,108 Speaker 8: looking for. But it is a lot of new coaches, 786 00:33:13,148 --> 00:33:15,308 Speaker 8: and I think that's what Girad Meyo is trying to 787 00:33:15,348 --> 00:33:17,708 Speaker 8: do of saying, you know what, Yes, we want to 788 00:33:17,708 --> 00:33:19,788 Speaker 8: build off of what the Patriots were and the success 789 00:33:19,828 --> 00:33:20,548 Speaker 8: that they've had, but. 790 00:33:20,588 --> 00:33:22,788 Speaker 7: We're going to have a brand new way of doing it. 791 00:33:22,828 --> 00:33:24,348 Speaker 8: And a lot of that is new voices in the 792 00:33:24,388 --> 00:33:24,908 Speaker 8: coaching room. 793 00:33:24,948 --> 00:33:27,708 Speaker 2: So the draft brings the opportunity to be brand new. 794 00:33:27,748 --> 00:33:29,908 Speaker 2: As we look forward to the draft, it's just over 795 00:33:29,948 --> 00:33:32,548 Speaker 2: a month away. New England as comments and holds the 796 00:33:32,548 --> 00:33:35,988 Speaker 2: third overall pick, not making any big splashes and preegency Patriots, 797 00:33:36,588 --> 00:33:38,668 Speaker 2: do you need to do? You have to at that 798 00:33:38,788 --> 00:33:41,988 Speaker 2: number three spot draft to quarterback or do you trade 799 00:33:41,988 --> 00:33:44,628 Speaker 2: down and a mass more picks considering the lack of 800 00:33:44,668 --> 00:33:46,628 Speaker 2: movement they made in freegency. 801 00:33:46,188 --> 00:33:47,868 Speaker 5: Or do you take Marvin Harrison and get a number 802 00:33:47,908 --> 00:33:49,828 Speaker 5: one wide receiver and do what the Cardinals did a 803 00:33:49,868 --> 00:33:51,708 Speaker 5: way back when when they were like, look, there's a 804 00:33:51,748 --> 00:33:53,588 Speaker 5: lot of quarterbacks if we need a quarterback, but Larry 805 00:33:53,628 --> 00:33:55,228 Speaker 5: Fitzgerald's on the board and we're taking him. 806 00:33:55,228 --> 00:33:56,548 Speaker 6: It's like one of those rare prospects. 807 00:33:56,628 --> 00:33:59,988 Speaker 5: How high do you rank Marvin Harrison on your board 808 00:33:59,988 --> 00:34:01,788 Speaker 5: where he would be worthy of a third overall pick 809 00:34:01,828 --> 00:34:05,628 Speaker 5: when you're so desperate for quarterback. I can't imagine them 810 00:34:06,228 --> 00:34:09,828 Speaker 5: passing on quarterback at three, though, especially unloading mac Jones 811 00:34:09,868 --> 00:34:11,828 Speaker 5: the way they did for what I said, the aforementioned 812 00:34:12,148 --> 00:34:14,548 Speaker 5: compensation of a ham sandwich in a back of baseballs 813 00:34:14,788 --> 00:34:18,228 Speaker 5: and then choosing to go Brissett, who is a steady 814 00:34:18,308 --> 00:34:20,428 Speaker 5: veteran leader but is not looked at as one of 815 00:34:20,428 --> 00:34:22,588 Speaker 5: the QB ones of the league. Over the last decade, 816 00:34:22,588 --> 00:34:24,948 Speaker 5: He's always been a great QB two who could step 817 00:34:24,948 --> 00:34:27,668 Speaker 5: in a pinch, and last year Bersett was awesome for 818 00:34:27,828 --> 00:34:30,028 Speaker 5: Washington once they finally put him in the set of 819 00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:32,428 Speaker 5: Sam Howell. He led them against a giant comeback against 820 00:34:32,428 --> 00:34:35,788 Speaker 5: the Jets, and was competitive against the Rams. All that said, 821 00:34:36,348 --> 00:34:38,948 Speaker 5: you're looking at a quarterback rich draft. To Kyle's point, 822 00:34:39,668 --> 00:34:43,388 Speaker 5: Robert Craft inherited Drew Bledsoe he's never had a top 823 00:34:44,068 --> 00:34:46,788 Speaker 5: three pick. I think this is a quarterback draft, and 824 00:34:46,828 --> 00:34:49,028 Speaker 5: you take mayor Daniels, and you roll the dice and 825 00:34:49,068 --> 00:34:51,228 Speaker 5: you convince yourself, whether you like it or not, that 826 00:34:51,268 --> 00:34:52,548 Speaker 5: those are one of the two guys that are going 827 00:34:52,628 --> 00:34:54,788 Speaker 5: to be the quarterback for the foreseeable future. And if 828 00:34:54,788 --> 00:34:56,348 Speaker 5: you really want to make the argument for McCarthy and 829 00:34:56,388 --> 00:34:58,308 Speaker 5: someone falls in love with JJ McCarthy, do that too. 830 00:34:58,788 --> 00:35:02,308 Speaker 5: I don't think with the situation of their roster, with 831 00:35:02,388 --> 00:35:04,868 Speaker 5: the situation of their owner now and thro this part 832 00:35:04,908 --> 00:35:07,388 Speaker 5: of his life cycle and wanting to win again, and 833 00:35:07,468 --> 00:35:09,628 Speaker 5: with the situation of fan base just so hungry for 834 00:35:09,708 --> 00:35:12,148 Speaker 5: anything exciting, I don't think you can pass on a 835 00:35:12,228 --> 00:35:15,188 Speaker 5: quarterback and make the argument, well, for team building purposes, 836 00:35:15,228 --> 00:35:16,508 Speaker 5: we actually need to do X, Y and Z. 837 00:35:16,628 --> 00:35:18,308 Speaker 6: Let's hold off on quarterback for another year. 838 00:35:18,428 --> 00:35:20,228 Speaker 8: See I wouldn't be surprised if they do that. And 839 00:35:20,588 --> 00:35:22,708 Speaker 8: to your point, I look at what they've done in 840 00:35:22,748 --> 00:35:25,068 Speaker 8: free agency and you're saying, I think it kind of 841 00:35:25,108 --> 00:35:28,068 Speaker 8: matches up with the fact of roster building and looking 842 00:35:28,108 --> 00:35:30,188 Speaker 8: for to trying to build a team that can actually 843 00:35:30,188 --> 00:35:31,188 Speaker 8: compete to win a Super Bowl. 844 00:35:31,228 --> 00:35:32,348 Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised. 845 00:35:32,028 --> 00:35:34,348 Speaker 8: If they looked at it and Elliot Wolf the kind 846 00:35:34,348 --> 00:35:36,908 Speaker 8: of GM that is right now? Does he look at 847 00:35:36,988 --> 00:35:39,268 Speaker 8: jayde and Daniels and does he look at Drake may say, 848 00:35:39,308 --> 00:35:41,308 Speaker 8: you know what, I can see these guys with the 849 00:35:41,348 --> 00:35:44,908 Speaker 8: confetti falling around them and us winning a Super Bowl, 850 00:35:44,988 --> 00:35:47,668 Speaker 8: because if not, if you see a guy like Amarvin 851 00:35:47,708 --> 00:35:50,868 Speaker 8: Harrison Junior or one of these offensive tackles strigs that 852 00:35:50,908 --> 00:35:52,668 Speaker 8: you've talked about, this draft is so. 853 00:35:52,668 --> 00:35:56,308 Speaker 7: Heavy of Joel going in my first round. 854 00:35:56,508 --> 00:35:59,148 Speaker 8: Do you see one of those guys' potential cornerstones of 855 00:35:59,228 --> 00:36:02,308 Speaker 8: your organization and maybe a year later or two years later, 856 00:36:02,388 --> 00:36:04,028 Speaker 8: you see the quarterback that fits or is it a 857 00:36:04,108 --> 00:36:06,388 Speaker 8: quarter later on in the draft that you think you 858 00:36:06,428 --> 00:36:08,788 Speaker 8: can develop over time. I look at the moves they've 859 00:36:08,788 --> 00:36:11,348 Speaker 8: made so far, and I wouldn't be surprised to see 860 00:36:11,388 --> 00:36:14,028 Speaker 8: them possibly take a guy. I don't think they trade back, 861 00:36:14,188 --> 00:36:15,908 Speaker 8: but take a guy at that number three spot. They 862 00:36:15,948 --> 00:36:18,308 Speaker 8: didn't think we'll be a Patriot for his entire career 863 00:36:18,308 --> 00:36:20,388 Speaker 8: in the next ten to fifteen years. What they've done 864 00:36:20,428 --> 00:36:22,188 Speaker 8: in the past, I would not be surprised to see 865 00:36:22,228 --> 00:36:22,428 Speaker 8: them do. 866 00:36:22,468 --> 00:36:26,068 Speaker 5: Real question, what from your talk of all your Patriots 867 00:36:26,068 --> 00:36:28,028 Speaker 5: buddies over the years, and of course you follow the 868 00:36:28,028 --> 00:36:31,068 Speaker 5: game and we do the show every day, is there 869 00:36:31,068 --> 00:36:33,908 Speaker 5: a preference between Daniels and may you think for Patriot 870 00:36:33,948 --> 00:36:35,988 Speaker 5: fans or from the people in the Patriot Your brother 871 00:36:36,028 --> 00:36:37,268 Speaker 5: was Patriot for fifteen years. 872 00:36:37,268 --> 00:36:37,588 Speaker 6: Opinion. 873 00:36:37,668 --> 00:36:40,108 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think there's some excitement around Jayde and Daniels. 874 00:36:40,148 --> 00:36:42,548 Speaker 8: I think the dual threat of it. For so many 875 00:36:42,628 --> 00:36:45,788 Speaker 8: years being in that building, would always talk about those 876 00:36:45,788 --> 00:36:48,668 Speaker 8: type of quarterbacks are the hardest to defend, guys that 877 00:36:48,708 --> 00:36:51,028 Speaker 8: you had to keep them in the pocket, but then 878 00:36:51,028 --> 00:36:52,668 Speaker 8: they can still beat you with your arms. So I 879 00:36:52,708 --> 00:36:55,748 Speaker 8: do think Jayden Daniels brings a lot to the table. 880 00:36:55,988 --> 00:36:58,548 Speaker 8: It's just a matter if they see him truly as 881 00:36:58,548 --> 00:37:00,668 Speaker 8: a like that position we just talked about it. I'm 882 00:37:00,668 --> 00:37:02,748 Speaker 8: all putting your careers at on the stage twenty one 883 00:37:02,748 --> 00:37:05,108 Speaker 8: and the twenty two draft of quarterbacks no longer being 884 00:37:05,148 --> 00:37:07,588 Speaker 8: on their roster that were given an opportunity. You just 885 00:37:07,628 --> 00:37:09,588 Speaker 8: had that with Mac Jones who's no longer there. Do 886 00:37:09,668 --> 00:37:11,588 Speaker 8: you truly see one of those guys that are going 887 00:37:11,668 --> 00:37:12,988 Speaker 8: to be there and be your franchise guy.