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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: AM on iHeartRadio, and welcome back to Coast to Coast. 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: Jerome Corsi with us as we talk about his situation 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: with a special council investigating the parent or alleged Russian 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: collusion with the twenty sixteen election, which has blossomed out 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: into some other issues, which of course you're all familiar with. 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: The most recent the president's personal attorney getting three years 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: for his situation and all kinds of things. Jerry, So, 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: if I understand that they came after you, because as 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: an investigative reporter, you speculated that these emails between Hillary 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: Clinton and John Podesta would probably be released at a 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: later date by Wiki Leaks. And they concluded then that 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: you knew something or what happened. That's right. The Special 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: Counselor believed that my knowledge in July and August twenty sixteen, 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: the Julian Assange and Wiki Leaks had Podesta's emails they 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: were going to drop in October a serial fashion. And 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: I even seemed to know what was in these emails. 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: It could only have come by my having a contact 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: with Doing Ausan directly or indirectly through an intermediary. And 29 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: the working hypothesis, the predetermined conclusion the Special Counselar had 30 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: was that I could connect Roger Stone to Julian Assange, 31 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: and that would connect through Roger Stone and Steve Bannon 32 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,279 Speaker 1: back to Donald Trump, and that would be their collusion link. 33 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: And it fell apart. The Special Counselor blew up this 34 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: entire You know, I was in there interviewing voluntarily with 35 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: a Special Counselor, turned over all my computers, all my emails. 36 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: I handed over my life to the Special Counselor voluntarily. 37 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: I had nothing to hide. And when I could not 38 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: give them because I've never. I've never met during Asange. 39 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: I've never communicated with him. I don't know him. I 40 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: don't have anybody that connected with him. I figured this 41 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: out myself. The special counselor just couldn't accept that, and 42 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: they ridiculed me. They argued, they were angry, they acted up, 43 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: they walked out of the meeting. They threatened from the 44 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: first day to throw me in prison for the rest 45 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 1: of my life. It was a horror show. Oh my god. 46 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: So if I get emails from somebody within government, right, 47 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: how about Roswell and that there was a UFO crash 48 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: back in nineteen forty seven, right, and I put it 49 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: on coast to coast and sent it to Julian Assange 50 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: so he could splatter it all over wiki leagues, Right, 51 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: Am I breaking the law? No? And that's the irony 52 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: that nothing I would have done. Actually, George, I wrote 53 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: my doctoral dissertation in Harvard in nineteen seventy two on 54 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: the Pentagon Papers case, which was US New York Times 55 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: VUS nineteen seventy one case. And as a journalist, I 56 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: could have talked with Julian Osange. I could have met 57 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: with him. Julian Osange as a journalist, provided that he's 58 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: determined to be a journalist, could have possession of stolen 59 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: even classified stolen material, which he could publish as long 60 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: as he didn't steal them, and I could communicate with him, 61 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: I could go get the material. None of that would 62 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: be a crime. What they wanted to do is connect 63 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: me to Roger Stone so that they could argue that 64 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: Roger Stone was coordinating when these emails would be released. 65 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: This was all part without this link that the Special 66 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: Counselor believe I would provide. They don't have any proof 67 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: of Russian collusion. So I still don't see where a 68 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: law has been broken. You know, if if Vladimir Putin 69 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: wanted to call up the New York Times and said, 70 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: you're not going to believe what I got on this 71 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: guy and sent it to him, is that collusion? I 72 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: just I just don't understand this thing. The Special Counselor 73 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: came in and said to me the beginning, very beginning, 74 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: you committed no crimes. The only crimeal commit is if 75 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: you don't tell us what we consider to be the 76 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: truth and what they consider to be the jo See, 77 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: the law is written. Though I willfully and knowingly gave 78 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: them information I knew to be false with an intent 79 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: to deceive them. Now I came in, I gave them, 80 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: here's my laptops. You would have been better off completing 81 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: the fifth Well, George, that was an argument that was made, 82 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: and my attorney said, maybe we should do this, and 83 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: I said, no, I have nothing to hide. I'm going 84 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: to go in and be a good citizen and I'm 85 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: going to try to help these guys. I'm going to 86 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: work with them. And what turned out when I couldn't 87 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: give them what they, in their predetermined minds wanted that 88 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: You know that part of the problem here is this 89 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: is not an investigation that is searching the facts and 90 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: coming to a conclusion. They've got a conclusion. And I'm 91 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: completely convinced the Special Counselor intends and wants to impeach 92 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. That's the whole point of this. So they're 93 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: looking for facts that fit into there, well, you know, injury. 94 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: You know me, If if there were facts there that 95 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: truly merit impeachment, then this country needs to find out 96 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: what the heck is going on. At the same time, 97 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: he calls it a witch hunt, And I want to 98 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: make sure that you know that this is a legitimate investigation. 99 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: You know, did he do stupid things? Absolutely, if he 100 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: was truly involved in the stormy Daniel's junk and they 101 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: paid her over an hundred thousand dollars is to keep quiet. 102 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's got to be one of the dumbest 103 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: things anybody can ever do. But they got to live 104 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: with that. I don't think that's illegal. But this whole 105 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 1: thing is the worst for this country I have ever seen, 106 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: well Georgia. We start criminalizing politics, the normal activity of politics, 107 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: and if the hard left believes this is the path 108 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: to go down to impeach Donald Trump is a very 109 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: very dangerous path. That's what one of the issues that 110 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: brought the Roman Republic to an end, criminalizing politics. And 111 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: the Democrats have better realize that this has a tendency 112 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: to boomerang. And I don't think the Democrats want Hillary Clinton, 113 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: or the Clinton Foundation, or strozikin Page or the other 114 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: deep state actors I've identified examined by the same standard. Though, 115 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: if Donald Trump survives this and gets control of the 116 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: Justice Department, a boomerang. I don't think it's wise for 117 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: us as a nation to get so intensely polarized that 118 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: we begin to criminalize our politics. We can disagree, and 119 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: we should disagree. But our pounding fathers intended with the 120 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: First Amendment. But we shouldn't be seeking to put our 121 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: political opponents in jail. That's the wrong path to go 122 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: down as a nation, unless they've truly broken a law. 123 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: Unless they've truly broken a law. Of course, no one 124 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: is above the law, not me, not anybody. And you know, 125 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying to live my life seventy two years. I 126 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: don't have any I haven't committed a single crime or 127 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: misdemeanor as much as a parking ticket on my record. 128 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if they if they asked me, what did 129 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: doctor COURSI say on your show back in two thousand 130 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: and five, I have no idea, all right, George, I 131 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: can't remember. I can't remember that. I just sent Tom 132 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: an email about something he brought to my attention last week, 133 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: and he said, oh, I forgot I sent you that email. 134 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean, and I was last week. Well, the special 135 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: prosecutor has got all the power money in the world. 136 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: They sit there with an eight inch binder with my 137 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: name on it. I'm asking mister Zelenski. Eron Zelenski, one 138 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: of the prosecutors is that book about me? Said, I'm 139 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: not going to tell you, and I gonna let you 140 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: see it, and I gonna tell me more binders I have. 141 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: And then they ask you a question about two thou 142 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: sixteen that you know, you answer it to the best 143 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: of your current memory. And then they go on the 144 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: binder they pull out an email from two thousand and 145 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: sixteen you don't remember at all, which is very possible 146 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: if easy. My god, I was doing it. I was 147 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: George from the first day on. I was amending my 148 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: testimony because I had not seen my two thousand and 149 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: sixteen email. What did they want? What did they want 150 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: you to agree to? They wanted me to give them 151 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: a name of a source that connected me to Julian 152 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: Assans that told me Julian Asans had in July twenty 153 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: and sixteen, told me Julian Sans had best emails. If 154 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: they I had that name, I'd have been their greatest hero. 155 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: They applauded me, and you know, you know I've thrown 156 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: laurels at me. I would have been great for them. 157 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: So they want so they wanted to you can't or 158 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: you won't. No, I can't. I don't know Juliansan. I've 159 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: never met Julian Assange, I've never communicated with you. Have 160 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: they subpoenaed him or they can't get to him? Well, 161 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: that's the ridiculous thing here, George and I kept asking them, 162 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, Julian Assan says the Russians did not give 163 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: him the emails from the Democratic National Committee. Why not 164 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: just subpoena Juliana Sans give him immunity under New York 165 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: Times v us the Pentagon Papers case, Consider of a 166 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: journalist that he's in the receipt of stolen material that 167 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: he's published, which is what the New York Times did 168 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: with the Pentagon papers that Daniel Ellsberg stole from the 169 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: Rand Corporation, who we all believe now is a hero, 170 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: who we believe is a hero. You know. But because 171 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: the left is not the hard left is not like 172 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: the fact that Julia Sans up these emails from Podesta 173 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: the Democratic National Committee on Hillary's campaign, and they want 174 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: to blame Russia. Well, and what do they want, Jerry, 175 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: Because I mean, they've they've nailed Paul Manaford, big deal. 176 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: They've got Michael Flynn, the former National Security advisor, big deal. 177 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: His personal attorney squeals, they get him for three years. 178 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: Big deal. Isn't their endgame to try to get Donald 179 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: Trump out of the out of the office the endgame 180 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: and what they're doing is a politically motivated investigation. They 181 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: want to impeach Donald Trump. I mean, do they all 182 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: everybody associated with the investigation, do they all hate President 183 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: Trump that much? Well, in the middle of the investigation, 184 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: you know Genie Ree, who's one of the key prosecutors, 185 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: learn a lawyer for Hillary Clinton's foundation, and the emails, 186 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:56,359 Speaker 1: and Aaron Zelenski, they attacked my writings. Oh for politically, 187 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Lenski says, doctor Coursy, you don't know the difference 188 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: between truth and fault. You take a fact here, fact there, 189 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: and you weave it in a lie and you get 190 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: millions of people to believe it. Well, he doesn't, you know. 191 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: He's calling me with these you know, the Wikipedia people, 192 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: the hard left, my critics who say, you know you're 193 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorist, and no my books. I've written twenty 194 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: books to or since two thousand. Many of them have 195 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: been on our show, many of them and seven of 196 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: them were New York Times bestsellers. Two were Number one. 197 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I defy Aaron Zelinski and Jennie re define 198 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: any other nonfiction author who's had this kind of success. 199 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: My books are heavily footnoted and they've been extremely successful. 200 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean, my lawyer said, look at your rear view mirror. 201 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: There's a lot of Democratic corpses in your wake. So 202 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: that's what they're after. They hate you. So you're suing 203 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: they did. You're suing for three hundred some million dollars, 204 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: three hundred fifty million dollars. You got a good shot 205 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: at this well. In fact, I'm suing them for illegally 206 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: putting me in on electronic surveillance. I believe I've been 207 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: under electronic surveillance since two thousand and four, when I 208 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: co authored with John O'Neil Unfit for Command against John Kerry. 209 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: We have evidence email evidence that my attorney, Larry Claimant, 210 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: got through Foyer requests that the Special Counselor's public relations 211 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: officer has been meeting with journalists in a restaurant cross 212 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: the street from Trump International Hotel in Washington and leaking 213 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: grand jury information. I think it's a criminal operation. And 214 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: the judge in the case, the US District judge, just 215 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: set a hearing in the three hundred fifty million dollars 216 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: suit for January third, which indicates he takes the case 217 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: seriously enough that it wasn't dismissed. It's going to a hearing, 218 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: and I'll be at that hearing that'll be in Washington, 219 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: d C. Is a very serious lawsuit, and I filed 220 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: a criminal complaint against the Mueller Special Profecial Counselor Operation. 221 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: I filed it with Acting Attorney General Whittaker A. Fither, 222 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: with Inspector General the Department of Justice Horrowitz. The Partment 223 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: Justice offers a professional responsibility and we're going to pursue 224 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: that criminal complaint and it's not going to be ignored 225 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: easily because I'm going to be very vocal about it. 226 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 227 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to Coast 228 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: am dot com for more