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Speaker 1: I'm Mark McClean, I'm the NFL's best artist, and you're

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Speaker 1: here with NFL player Second Acts Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in to the NFL Player's Second

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Speaker 2: Act Podcast. I'm Peanut Tillman and this is my guy

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Speaker 2: Roomanbi Harp.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying it again. That's your name. He can't even

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Speaker 3: keep laughing. Give me a tear, Give me a tear drop.

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Speaker 4: It will happen if I keep laughing. You already know that,

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Speaker 4: and our guest doesn't know why you called me. Well,

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Speaker 4: we'll probably end up getting into that at some point.

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Speaker 4: But thank you, Peena, and I want to let everybody

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Speaker 4: know where we're at today. This is a different studio

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Speaker 4: right here in Atlanta, Georgia, at the our Heart studio

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Speaker 4: right here, and it's a great place right across from

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Speaker 4: Top Golf.

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Speaker 3: At the Works.

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Speaker 2: It's a really really great building and I want to

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Speaker 2: thank them for allowing us to use their venue. And uh,

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Speaker 2: look at the background, bro, it's dope. I like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's our best set up so far, no doubt. And uh,

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Speaker 2: well iHeart New York. We didn't say that, but uh,

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Speaker 2: we can't wait.

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Speaker 3: It's all good. Who's introduce our guest today, Peanut. I

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Speaker 3: like this guest. I like him too. He was a teammate.

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Speaker 2: He was, he was, he was a great teammate. That

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Speaker 2: he's a twenty fifteen season was amazing. It was, and

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure a lot of what we talk about

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Speaker 2: will be geared toward that twenty fifteen season. He's a

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Speaker 2: twenty ten draft pick out of Yukon. Played in the

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Speaker 2: league for eight years. He was a part of that

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Speaker 2: famous twenty fifteen season, played in Super Bowl fifty.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He is now an artist. He's a painter. Yeah, my guy, painter.

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Speaker 2: Robert McClain, Welcome to the pop Thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 2: thanks for inviting man, thanks for inviting.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you. I miss y'all. First of all, Robert,

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Speaker 3: you know how much we love you. Dog. The first

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Speaker 3: thing I noticed about you outside of you wearing all white,

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Speaker 3: is that what the part is? That was? Like you

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Speaker 3: pain what's your more name? From fanatics? I feel like

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Speaker 3: you was. You just came from one of his parties

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Speaker 3: for like.

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Speaker 1: July usually painted my clothes. I was in my closet

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Speaker 1: making sure my girlfriend get on me about paint spots

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Speaker 1: on everything. And I'll go anywhere with paint spots closed.

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Speaker 1: So I've had to come professional.

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Speaker 4: To that, and I appreciate that that little speck look great.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I started to see.

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Speaker 1: This light life kicking in, life, kicking in man, stressed

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Speaker 1: on these paintings, like I to finish up.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: So I remember pretty vividly when you came into the

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Speaker 4: room in twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 3: You're a quiet guy.

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Speaker 2: You kind of just wanted to just I think you

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Speaker 2: kind of just wanted to figure out your place inside

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Speaker 2: the room.

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Speaker 4: We have some veteran guys. We were a very successful

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Speaker 4: team when you came in already.

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Speaker 3: And what week was that. It was a December. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know it's literal in Courtland Courtland signed first,

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Speaker 1: then I signed right at to Courtland.

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Speaker 3: Me and Courtland worked out the same workout too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was my first impression, like this dude's quiet,

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Speaker 4: he can run, and dude just seems like, I don't know,

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Speaker 4: we got to figure it out and fill it out

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it was an ad justin pyramid a

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Speaker 1: period of mine. You know, I was going off multiple teams,

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Speaker 1: I've been with Carolina before that. My first time I

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Speaker 1: my entire career. So it was just it was a

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Speaker 1: difficult season because you know, you have to work out

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Speaker 1: got adjusted a playbook. So me always been naturally quiet

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Speaker 1: I known we had a good locker room, knowing we

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Speaker 4: What was the difference between your rookie year Carolina team

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Speaker 4: and probably what you walked into.

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Speaker 1: I think the camaraderie. When I think about the camaraderie

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Speaker 1: that again, all of them players, all of them players

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Speaker 1: the togetherness, how he worked hard together, how he worked

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Speaker 1: When I got there with you guys, you know, hearing

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Speaker 2: You know I was I wasn't the oldest person in

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Speaker 3: I just hate that. Y'all.

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Speaker 2: Was always so serious all the time. Like I just

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Speaker 3: Locked in, But give me a laugh here and there, man, Like.

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Speaker 2: I just remember, I probably think one of the best

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Speaker 2: Wooks would always give like some dope ass speech.

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Speaker 3: Was real serious. Training train dialed all the way in.

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Speaker 2: And we're talking about Steve Wooks he was our dB

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Speaker 2: coaster that year, and he would go on and give

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Speaker 3: And it was just the DB's.

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Speaker 2: It was just us in the little room in the

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Speaker 2: real quiet, quiet, and then I would I would say it,

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Speaker 2: and then I think the first time I called everybody

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Speaker 3: Then each week Peanut break the ice.

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Speaker 2: It would kind of just be it would just kind

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Speaker 2: into like, all right, what you got, Peen.

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Speaker 3: I was like, well, this is what I was thinking,

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Speaker 2: Eighty HD would kick in and I would just say

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Speaker 3: Everybody back down to like, oh yeahah, we cool. We

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Speaker 2: So, Robert, what was your first welcome to the NFL moment?

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Speaker 1: Man? My rookie year, we won two games my rookie year,

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Speaker 1: so that was a big welcoming to the league, just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, NFC South was just a tough division. You know.

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Speaker 1: I felt like my welcome to the league moment was

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Speaker 1: probably when I first got I first started getting a

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Speaker 1: players at Nickel and I remember, like it was yesterday,

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Speaker 1: never like taking days off to tell us if I

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Speaker 1: need to I'm content. I'm never content really. So it

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So all the teams that you played for, can

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Speaker 3: you rattle them off in order? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Carolina my rookie year. Then we had the lockout year

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Speaker 2: What does that do for you? Like, you know you're

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Speaker 3: Mentally? What does that do for you? Uh?

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Speaker 1: It confuses you a little bit. You know, we've all

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Speaker 1: played football for a long time. You know, we've all

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Speaker 3: Since third grade, all way up until now.

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Speaker 1: This moment of not being cut or being told not

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Speaker 1: good enough exactly, you know, so it was I grew

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Speaker 1: even with my art, I'm a harder critic on my

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Speaker 1: You know, it confused me a lot because just the

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Speaker 1: It's your ups and downs, more downs and ups. But

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Speaker 2: Twenty thirteen and fourteen, football wasn't not fun. I hated football.

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Speaker 4: And what those that don't know when you're the new

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like somebody's new coming into your locker room.

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Speaker 2: It's great like so, and then obviously Rome j no,

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Speaker 1: That year I'm mainly focused on football. Okay, I've always been.

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Speaker 1: I'll doodle here and there, but that entire football season

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Speaker 4: Well, how gratifying was it to be a starter in

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Speaker 1: It's like it's targetting that game. It's hard getting to

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Speaker 3: My prayers were being answered. I just had to stick

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Speaker 1: Because if I didn't have certain vets in my career,

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Speaker 2: So I'm envious to both of y'all because y'all got

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Speaker 1: I know Pino was hurting man, and I was like, Man,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I was thinking about that too, because

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Speaker 1: All the time. I told my friends all the time

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: So, No, I was appreciative of you because you came in.

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Speaker 2: You never made it about you.

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Speaker 4: You were more so much more concerned with about how

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Speaker 1: Said and Wilkes, remember, Will like, man, you're gonna go

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Speaker 3: Are you going to McClain, you're gonna be able to

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Speaker 3: So let me just read out some stats and you

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl fifty, Robert played in fifty eight of the

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Speaker 3: Don't even get wrong, I didn't not play that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Late Night talks about about Super Bowl fifty and yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: Thomas would love to know.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you probably played better than him too. I dropped

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Speaker 4: What people do not understand is when your defensive back

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Speaker 3: Bring the other one with you exactly. It's kind of

439
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Speaker 3: what you're talk though.

440
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,439
Speaker 2: Just to put that one arm out like and secure

441
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,480
Speaker 2: the secure that's kind of what you're.

442
00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,679
Speaker 4: Safety net and it's just a confidence thing to just

443
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,639
Speaker 4: go there. And that's all it was.

444
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,480
Speaker 1: And I was there so early, you were there so early.

445
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,680
Speaker 1: So I read the three step by and I was

446
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,439
Speaker 1: amazing at reading three steps through my entire football career.

447
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:47,720
Speaker 4: Man.

448
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,640
Speaker 1: I was just good at tuning on the quarterback, reading

449
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 1: those mechanisms that they had for running three steps, whether

450
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,200
Speaker 1: they shotgun under the gun, I mean under the center.

451
00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 3: I just knew how to read three step. You know.

452
00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 3: Peyton went throwing, he wasn't his.

453
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:07,400
Speaker 2: He was he was all short games, short game.

454
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Speaker 3: That was.

455
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:08,360
Speaker 2: That was it.

456
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, we still lost that. Oh my god, I know this.

457
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 1: Is Super Bowl performance and intensively and like guy knows

458
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 1: how long you know, So it was.

459
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 3: It was tough.

460
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 1: Man. I thought back to that one played entire game

461
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 1: in a in a coral route that Emanuel Sanders caught

462
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,119
Speaker 1: on me that he got a first down on a

463
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 1: lot of little plays that I'm like, you know, we

464
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,639
Speaker 1: how we analyze the film, there's plays that we know

465
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,360
Speaker 1: we could have made defensively and offensively that we could

466
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Speaker 1: have won the game one or two plays, you know,

467
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 1: So all.

468
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Speaker 2: Right, man, let's let's let's get off the super Bowl

469
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 2: because I'm getting I'm getting mad. I'm kind of mad

470
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,879
Speaker 2: right now because he put the damn super Bowl fifty

471
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 2: courses in there. Every time we do this show at

472
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,640
Speaker 2: at super Bowl, I get reminded by this dummy over

473
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 2: here that I don't have it. I thought it, but

474
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 2: he reminds me, Oh my god, he reminds me, I

475
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 2: got my ring.

476
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,120
Speaker 3: You know how many rings? You got? Zero?

477
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 2: Like, all right, I can't say nothing right the gray

478
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 2: haired banded just go ahead and talk about your peanut

479
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 2: punch stuff. I'm not even talking about that class is.

480
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Speaker 3: I appreciate you.

481
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: That that's doing the stamped in the books history right there,

482
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: that peanut punch that Jones stamped in the books forever.

483
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Speaker 3: Man.

484
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 1: That John is real skill. Like there's nobody defensively. I

485
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 1: feel like that script the ball as as as pure

486
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Speaker 1: as you did. I appreciate that. And effectively, every single

487
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 1: every single like every game, you are attacking the ball

488
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Speaker 1: in a way that you could affect like runners, receivers,

489
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: running backs they knew they coming to you, come to

490
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 1: your side like security.

491
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Speaker 4: Ball, and it's infectious. I would give Peanut that much

492
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 4: credit because Steve Wilks would tell.

493
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 3: Us like, hey, dude, you gotta run through the ball,

494
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Speaker 3: just no peanuts.

495
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 4: Somehow know is gonna get a ball and he's like,

496
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Speaker 4: and it spreads like next thing. You know, everybody starts

497
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Speaker 4: doing it just because we watch you do it. So

498
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 4: he's not wrong about that.

499
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Speaker 3: We're gonna take a short break and we'll be right back.

500
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 3: So I know you're an artist.

501
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: How how long have you been been painting, drawing, sketching.

502
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: Drawing, sketching, doing all things artistically since I think third

503
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 1: grade or fourth grade. So that's when I realized I

504
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: was I was naturally skilled in drawing. It was a

505
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 1: summer that you know, everybody was big in the anime

506
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: in some way or form.

507
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Speaker 3: Who was your first anime? Drawing? Dragon ball Z?

508
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 1: Still I still have all my my original Dragon ball

509
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: Z drawings from when I was in element school.

510
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Speaker 3: Your favorite Dragon ball Z? Care? Uh? Goku?

511
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Speaker 1: I like everybody likes Goku, but I kind of like

512
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: the villains a lot. I was like, I'm a vegeta

513
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: vegeta cool vegeta cool me, but I always just like villains.

514
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: I like, I like, I like the guys that are

515
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: like villain. He was was really and he ended up

516
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: coming with the good team. A villain guy I like

517
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Speaker 1: the like Goku Black. I don't know if you know. Yeah,

518
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: so Goku Black.

519
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: I like him.

520
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Speaker 1: This guy like the adversity they bring and the change

521
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: they have to bring into the animate to change the story.

522
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: You know, it's written well. A lot of animates are

523
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Speaker 1: written really well.

524
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Speaker 3: And one did all that.

525
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Speaker 2: That's the crazy he just last year last Yeah, I

526
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: thought he just he just passed.

527
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Speaker 3: He did. I want to. I want to. Can I

528
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Speaker 3: can I commission you to draw a peanut punch.

529
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Speaker 2: Man like you come up with whatever you I want

530
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Speaker 2: the artists to be an artist.

531
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Speaker 3: I can come up with something. I will pay you.

532
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 3: I want. I want to. I want Yeah, we can

533
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: come up bring this on the show. I can come something.

534
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: You brought some art today, right, Yeah? I brought some art.

535
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 1: I brought a I brought like a very inspiring peace

536
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Speaker 1: of mind. I like I like to paint like inspiring

537
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: people that have have inspired not just one person, but

538
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: just multiple people in different ways, whether it's music, whether

539
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: it's sports, whether it's how they speak to.

540
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Speaker 3: People in communities and whatnot. Politics. You know. I like

541
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Speaker 3: to inspire people.

542
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Speaker 1: You know, I like to be able to touch people

543
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,719
Speaker 1: in ways that you don't have to use words all

544
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Speaker 1: the time.

545
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Speaker 4: Now, this is a draw artist, I mean a painting

546
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 4: of nip yep right, yes, and so he's passed away now,

547
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 4: but a great artist when he was alive, a businessman. Really,

548
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 4: he's doing a lot of different things out there in

549
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 4: LA So maybe talked about what inspired you to do

550
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 4: him specifically.

551
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: Just how he how he was in his community. You

552
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

553
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: Everybody has their own backgrounds on troubling backgrounds, you know

554
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So what you've done in the past

555
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 1: doesn't shape who you are now.

556
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

557
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: God has given us the ability to be able to

558
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: change and do things in a positive way in life.

559
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Speaker 1: And I felt like what he's done for a lot

560
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: of people inspiring wise, Like if you listen to a

561
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Speaker 1: lot of his words and his music, Yeah, talks about

562
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: a lot of pain talks about a lot of times

563
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: he could have given up, talked about a lot of

564
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: times he could have steered different directions, but how he

565
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: stayed to his course. You know, Painting things like that

566
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: just gives me when I look at my paintings. To

567
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: certain people like that. It just brings back a hunger

568
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: and myself to keep going, you know.

569
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: Talk about the colors though, I want, I want to

570
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 2: ask you, like why the red the I can't I

571
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: can't see all the colors right now because it's I'm

572
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: facing the back of it. But while they're red in

573
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: the background, Like, how do you because obviously it's it's

574
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: a picture that you you you took from Yeah, why

575
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: those specific colors?

576
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Speaker 3: Like I just I wanted something different. I wanted to show, like.

577
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Speaker 1: When you when you look at the like the infrared

578
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: heat like of a human. You know, you see they

579
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: could be sad and their body could be slightly cool,

580
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: or they could be happy and their body can be

581
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: showing their their warmness. So I kind of wanted to

582
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Speaker 1: show the different temperatures on his skin, the different temperatures

583
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: of his body, being the blue the red. I wanted

584
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Speaker 1: the picture to be very dynamic. You know, it's a

585
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: it's a photo that many artists of painting, tons of

586
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: artists of paint, especially when he passed. You know, I'm

587
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: not one to paint a lot of people when they passed.

588
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Speaker 1: Right way, I feel like it's like a respecting I

589
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: don't like to monetize by uh by, by something trending.

590
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: So when when I painted it, I kind of I

591
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: wanted it to be a dynamic piece. I wanted the

592
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: piece to make you make you look at it longer

593
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: than just being like, wait, this is the original photo

594
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: from this picture. But he's bringing in so many colors

595
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: and different features to still bring form and tones and

596
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: coolness or hotness is to the to the piece. So

597
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to show the different ranges that Nipsey has

598
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: towards like people. You know, he could be cool with

599
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: this person, there could be a little hotter with this person.

600
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: You know, not saying hot or cooler is bad or good,

601
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: but just his personality towards different people, businesses, music.

602
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 2: Well, Robert, you sound like a real true artist. You

603
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: talking about infrared the hotness. Yeah, just really deep. This

604
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: is this is what artists.

605
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 3: I studied a lot.

606
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 4: My wife is in the art, and so I've been

607
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 4: a lot of these art galley things, and you're talking

608
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 4: just like that. It's like a whole new language language, right,

609
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 4: It's just completely different.

610
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Speaker 3: All right. What I want to know is what is

611
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: your favorite form of art to do?

612
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: I first started as a sketch artist, which actually helped

613
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: me in my process of painting. If you can't draw

614
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: something and make it look somewhat like what you're drawing,

615
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: then when you start adding color and layers and contrast

616
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: and shadows, it's not gonna look like the picture.

617
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: You know, it's not gonna look like you wanted to look.

618
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: So me having that that, that strong background of drawing

619
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: and sketching was that I was able to easily transition

620
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: right over to color, which I didn't know.

621
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Speaker 4: And can we just talk about this because he was

622
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 4: in the locker room with us and he didn't talk

623
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 4: about this.

624
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: No, he did this out.

625
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: Cam bout the painting from me when I bought that,

626
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: Like the team interviewed me randomly, and uh, they told

627
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: Medy to bring some paintings and that was did in

628
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: my house, like in my little kitchen or something or

629
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: my apartment, I mean, and I remember bringing them in

630
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: for the interview. It was like after practice. So I'm

631
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: in there late and then Cam walk's by.

632
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: I was like, hey, you paint.

633
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he bought one flag one hundred two hundred dollars,

634
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: like old paint in the mind, but it was like

635
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: aout like one hundred two hundred dollars. Man, I was like, cool,

636
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: you sold painting right during the interview. I'm cool with that.

637
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: But know, but none of you guys knew.

638
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: Nobody knew.

639
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden were like, hold on

640
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 4: you Like, yeah, yeah, I saw. I saw on Instagram too.

641
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 4: You had a great picture of Benet. Yeah yeah there

642
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 4: as well. Uh he jumping up making a play on

643
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 4: the game.

644
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: Yet they really finally played Denver that first game of

645
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: the season, and uh, I wanted I told. I told

646
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: a lot of the dbs that were a part of

647
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: my life through my defensive career. I'm gonna do a

648
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: piece for everybody. Everybody's getting a piece. The entire thieves

649
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: ass getting the piece. So it's coming soon. It's gonna

650
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: take me a while. Yeah, my friend Taylon Branch after

651
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: do I did, my homie Derrius Butler.

652
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

653
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: So, I'm just trying to pay pay my my respect,

654
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: my towards my the guys that I looked up to,

655
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

656
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: I bought some bought some Christmas ornaments on the website.

657
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: I got the Harley Quinns joint. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

658
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: I bought that one. I think I got the twenty

659
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: month time Peanuts, the best he always supports.

660
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he got that.

661
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Speaker 2: I forget the third one Outbohol though, but yeah, I

662
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: like I didn't know they came because you know chrimas

663
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: well asking what we're let all the listeners know where

664
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: they can my art. Right now, I'm I'm using the

665
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: NFL right now with I think they have this thing

666
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: called manpower, So I'm using that right now to monetize

667
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: my business properly and figure out how to become an

668
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: entrepreneur in a way. You know, being an artist and

669
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: me and the creator, it's hard for me to do

670
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: the creative and then do the business.

671
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Speaker 3: You know.

672
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: It kind of messes me up because I'm like, I'm

673
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: doing it because I love it.

674
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: And I also know I need to make some money

675
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: from it. But I also just want my pieces to

676
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: be in homes. I want people that appreciate it just

677
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: to have it when if somebody buys it for a

678
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: dollar or two thousand, you know, I'm like, I just

679
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: wanted to be away from me and I don't want

680
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: to stay at my own paintings. I want people to

681
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: have pieces of my art that I see is that

682
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: I love. You know, it's just tough man. It's just

683
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: tough man, just the just the just kind of balancing it,

684
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: you know. So right now, I primarily use social media,

685
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: use my Instagram. I'm in the process of developing a

686
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: website for the most part. The McClain's Art like domain

687
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: will be I'll have it. I did have a website

688
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: in the past, but right now my mcclaims are for

689
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: my Instagram. It's just my primary source of communicating people,

690
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: getting my art work out there.

691
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Speaker 3: You know.

692
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Speaker 1: I'm submitting at McLain's Art mc c l a I

693
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Speaker 1: and s Art, and then I'm submitting pieces the more galleries.

694
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: Now.

695
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: I just started doing that more this year. So it

696
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: took me five years to develop my skill to painting

697
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: to where I felt comfortable enough to be like, all right,

698
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: it's good enough, even though I knew it was good

699
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: enough when I first started. I'm like, all right, it's

700
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: good enough. Now I can put my stuff off.

701
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: Do you have you ever like taken a skill or

702
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: excuse me, have you ever taken a class on how

703
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: to paint? Or is it just like all right, I

704
00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna try to.

705
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: Paint now uh in twenty nineteen. So eighteen was my

706
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: last season. I was when I was a free agent

707
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: working out for a couple of teams, think of working

708
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: for Saints in Detroit, but I refused to sign to

709
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: the Saint Room. Sorry man, being in NFC Southoma entire career,

710
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: you know how the rivalry is with the Saints.

711
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: Look, I told my agent, I'll never go to Atlanta.

712
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 3: Never. I don't care, no, never. I couldn't do the Saints.

713
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: I get it.

714
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: The Saint the Saints for the first team when I

715
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: was that gunner to really throw me on the sideline

716
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: too so and that was my rookie year. So that's

717
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: when I really took a person with the Saints. But

718
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: when it came to art in eighteen, I was a

719
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: free agent twenty nineteen. I was actually planning on joining

720
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: the Army in twenty nineteen. Crazy, I passed my as

721
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: VAP within I had like a week to take the

722
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: as VAP. They were going to leave Tim to sent

723
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: me the boot camp two weeks later. And I grew

724
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: up in a military family, so I was also a

725
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: dream of mine. And I was in a trans junior Yeah,

726
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: I was in junior RTC, So military was always a

727
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: dream of mine. I wanted a being the Federal Giral

728
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: investigations by being in the military. So I had a

729
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: whole nother plan after college. But after football is kind

730
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: of like being after college again having to.

731
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: Figure it out.

732
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: So the reason I did enjoined the Army is due

733
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: to some of the stuff with the recruiter and medically,

734
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I would have been able to

735
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: do what I need to do for my soldiers around me.

736
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: Knowing that I would have tried to climb to the

737
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: elite status and knowing certain things that are bothering me. Still,

738
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: I didn't want to put others at risk, you knowing myself,

739
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: you know. So I decided to stop that. But it

740
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: was a blessing in disgise because I took as painting

741
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 1: class at Chas Staint Art Center, which is not too

742
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: far from here in Bucket, and I took a class

743
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: there during football when I was with the Falcons to

744
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: learn how to draw portraits, to sketch portraits. I was like,

745
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: let me, let me go back and learn how to paint.

746
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: Like everybody wants paintings from me. People want paintings in

747
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: their homes. It's a more popular piece to have in

748
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: your home rather than a sketch. Was like, let me

749
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: learn how to paint. So I volunteered at Chastity and

750
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: Art Center for nine months, did a children mural there.

751
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: But they gave me free classes to take. So I

752
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: took about seven to eight painting classes that that that

753
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: whole entire year and learn how to paint, and I

754
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: got gotten faster. But the guy that really taught me

755
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: out of paint was a beginners of painting class, and

756
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: from that point on, I was just.

757
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: I love that.

758
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 4: Like I think confidence plays a huge piece in your

759
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 4: whole your whole career from playing football to becoming an artist,

760
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 4: believing in yourself.

761
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: How did you.

762
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 4: Think you how were you received in the locker room

763
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: as a player versus an artists?

764
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: Right?

765
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 4: Like once we figured it out, Yeah, were you kind

766
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 4: of nervous to tell us about it because you didn't

767
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 4: or you just weren't confident enough at that time.

768
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Speaker 3: To say like, no, this is like what I do,

769
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 3: this is not it was.

770
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: It was football. It was like when I'm it's like

771
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: we're on a mission. So it's like I'm so military

772
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: minded and a lot of things I do I'm like,

773
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: our teams on a mission right now. We're on a

774
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: mission right now, like we're in we're in war. We're

775
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: in the seventeen week war, and then we have the

776
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: playoff war, you know. So I'm like, our soldiers have

777
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: to focus. We have to focus on this. So whatever

778
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: we're do on the side, it's what we do on

779
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: the side to make sure we're able to come into

780
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: the field together and be a unit. You know. So

781
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: when I'm locked in a football season's football season, off seasons,

782
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: off season, but then when I'm training back in the

783
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: lock in mode, so I knoww to just put blinders

784
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: on in a way. Which it wasn't like I was

785
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: hiding my art because I know people love my artwork.

786
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm a harder critic on myself than others.

787
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 3: So it's never like a fear thing of my art.

788
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: But it's always it was always like just people just

789
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: didn't know, you know, people just didn't know.

790
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 3: We'll be right back.

791
00:34:55,400 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: So did you take advantage of the NFL program as

792
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: far as the arts and teaching you those things, because

793
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: you maybe talk about that experience as well.

794
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the the NFL PA actually has a what was

795
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: it called Smocks and Jocks Art Show.

796
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: Every year they have it there. I didn't know that,

797
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: so please share it.

798
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the nfl PA has an art show every season,

799
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean every every season at the end of the

800
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: year in the super Bowl city. So the first year

801
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: actually attended this art event. And it's for former players

802
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 1: that are artists in all types of forums or the sculpting, painting,

803
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: any form of art you do, You're able to go

804
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: there sell your art silent auction. And the first year

805
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: I heard about this was when the Super Bowl was

806
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 1: here in Atlanta. I forgot what year that was, maybe nineteen.

807
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: So I submitted my artwork to that two paintings I'm

808
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: talking about. I didn't put in any work in these

809
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: paintings I'm talking about it. I just threw some ad

810
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: fract stuff together, sold them, brought my daughter, and I

811
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: was excited. I'm like, man, I never sold a little

812
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: two under three dollars. I'm like, okay, I'm cool with that. Man,

813
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: Like I never sold a painting that people loved so much.

814
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even know how to paint, you know.

815
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: So it was like just from that little experience from

816
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: the Smocks, the smocks and jocks. I stuck with that

817
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: art show, and that art show also helped me stay motivated,

818
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: stay climbing, stay getting better. The exposure from it, I

819
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: sold more and more paintings each a star. So two

820
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: art shows. That first two paintings, that first art show

821
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. The next year my Super bowls in Miami

822
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: sold seven, all abstract. So I'm like, my I got

823
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: to learn how to paint now. I really got to

824
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: learn how to paint. We got twenty twenty. I think

825
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: it was in the Miami.

826
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Speaker 3: It's a really good to lose actually there. Last year he.

827
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: Came to the one in Vegas. Yeah, he came to

828
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: the one. I sold my Kobe paint. I had a

829
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: sixty by seventy to Kobe paint.

830
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

831
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was probably my biggest painting I did. Yeah,

832
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: and it's so it's so it's sold, so lose there.

833
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: He has a whole interview on it and everything.

834
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 3: Man.

835
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: But it's a good show because they it shows the

836
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: the other side of athletes, you know, and I like,

837
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: people don't see what we do off the field a

838
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: lot or they just don't know, you know. So it's

839
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,479
Speaker 1: like it's important especially in an event like the Super

840
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: Bowl to be able to show that exposure.

841
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: Now, can you be honest with us? Was there like

842
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: a crappy piece of artists? Like, man, I can't believe

843
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: somebody put this up on display and somebody gonna buy this.

844
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: Like you saw couple You're just like, I'm not gonna

845
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 3: call it.

846
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: I'm not asking, I'm not asking, I'm not trying to

847
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: throw shade nobody, but just well, there are a couple

848
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 2: of pieces where you're just.

849
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: Like, man, this looked like a little third grade. Man.

850
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: There's cold pieces I see in galleries and I'm like, man,

851
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: they just how much to be going for? Some pieces

852
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: will be going for twenty thousand? Couple of lines. I

853
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: went to Art Basil years ago. Art bas is a

854
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: huge yeah in Mia, Miami. Y is like, yes, people,

855
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: good artists, a lot of artists. It was a banana

856
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: on a whiteboard, yeah.

857
00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: For like thirty thousand, not lying, it was just banana,

858
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: Like I ain't see not one drip of paint anywhere

859
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: on the canvas.

860
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 3: Thirty some thousand dollars. It was like, yeah, but this

861
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: is what happens.

862
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: And the reason why it gets like that too is

863
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: because the artist has developed so much skill and other things.

864
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: If there's they can that their name is just the

865
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: reason why it's value.

866
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: Now, so you get put some trash on the wall

867
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 2: and we can sell it for like thirty g Like

868
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: we got to I'm getting there. I got to get

869
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: into galleries. Come on, we got to get you pubbed up.

870
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: I know, man, I really like I'm excited for my

871
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: journey in art just because I know I'm gonna be

872
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna eventually be one of the best.

873
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: And you know, we need to buy his when it

874
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: gets to like a couple of thousands. So then because

875
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: like that's when you're at the lower stage before, like.

876
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: Then we can't afford me. What happens in the gallery today?

877
00:38:55,120 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: Dollars two hundred dollars gone? Now, Peanut, know you I

878
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: can do a smaller piece like that's that's not the question.

879
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: Have you ever tried to get any one of your

880
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: teammates to paint, Like, have you ever tried to like

881
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: you invited someone of them, like, hey, man, come to

882
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 2: the crib, I'm sure how to paint.

883
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 3: Shack.

884
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: Actually, one year it was in the off season, Shaq Thompson,

885
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: he was like he was like Rob, I'm trying to

886
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: do something, like something different in the off season. He's like, man, like,

887
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: show me how to do a paint or something we're

888
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: supposed to do a painting of Like I picked out

889
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: something for him to do, but when I think about it,

890
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have picked it out because yellows and oranges

891
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: are hard to place on a canvas. You have to

892
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 1: do a lot of layers because it's very translucent color.

893
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: And hold on for those that don't know what that means, transluce.

894
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: It's like, it's very it's very uh. It takes a

895
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: lot of layers exactly not to be seen exactly, That's

896
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: what I was. So you'll see a lot of the

897
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: rawness of the canvas by using oranges yellows. You have

898
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: to layer it off a lot. Yeah, Wise you'll see

899
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: different markings that I made to show my drawing of

900
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: how I want to place the paint. So you have

901
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: to layer it a lot with yellows and white and

902
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: oranges because it's so translucent of a paint like reds, blues, blacks,

903
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: those primary colors like that, or or stronger colors that are.

904
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: You're not gonna see it. You're not gonna see as

905
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 3: much much error from the canvas.

906
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: So when I was painting that, it was like a

907
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: Margerita glass, like an orange is orange juice in it

908
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: and whatnot? And shot give on that within like two

909
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: three hours.

910
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it took that long.

911
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, But when I think about it, because I feel

912
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: like I can teach anybody, but some people you have

913
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: to have, like you have to have a uh not

914
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: even like an interest in it. I'm not saying Shack

915
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: didn't have an interest in it because you was just

916
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: trying to do something new. But paint is tough, man,

917
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: It's hard. You have to you have to be patient

918
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: with it because everybody starts off at the same level

919
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: as a kid. Some kids may be a little better

920
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: the other kids. But for the most part, we all doodle.

921
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: We all draw a tree the same way we all

922
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: draw human stick figures. Yes, it was just the kids

923
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: that stuck with it and gain some and gain some

924
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: different aspects on how to see it that developed themselves

925
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: into artists.

926
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: You know, new challenge for you. When I definte I'm

927
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: gonna get a canvas, You're gonna get a canvas. We're

928
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 2: gonna sit across from each other.

929
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 3: I can teach you.

930
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: Guys, we're gonna paint each other and each other. We're

931
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: gonna paint each other. I'm gonna payt you. You're gonna

932
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: paint me.

933
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 3: I've one I need one color black and grace, black

934
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 3: and gret I hate this idea already, but I.

935
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: Started teaching kids how to paint two and twenty in

936
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: nineteen that I learned how to paint, and just like

937
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: as a volunteer, and I feel like I personally feel

938
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: like I can teach anybody to paint, just because I

939
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: know how to articulate it in ways. And you know,

940
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: every dB that comes into the room, they're not gonna

941
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: press the same. You're not gonna not gonna be able

942
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: to shuffle their feet the same.

943
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: You know.

944
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: So a good coach, a good coach that's able to teach,

945
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: is able to adjust with the player and teach them

946
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 1: the proper way of being in the scheme of our defense.

947
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: You know. The spot flight footballs helped me also be

948
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: a good teacher. I'm able to to see different things

949
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: about people. You know, what is your favorite piece that

950
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: you've ever done, if you had one the pieces I

951
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: do with my daughter. So I do, Yeah, I do.

952
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: Uh.

953
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: From the time she was a baby, I've done portraits

954
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 3: of her.

955
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: When I first learned to do color pencil pieces, My

956
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: first learned how to do color pencil porches. So every

957
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: year I try to do a portrait of her for

958
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: when the time she turns to eighteen, I'm gonna give

959
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: her all the portraits of her as she grows, so

960
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: she can see through my artwork her face has changed,

961
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: how she's matured.

962
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 3: I kind of want to.

963
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: I feel like every artist in the Renaissance error in

964
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: the past, they've always had like their loved ones that

965
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: they've painted and whichh that you could see the growth

966
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: of that person growing up and maturing, or just their

967
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: passionate love towards that person. So from the time she

968
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: was a baby and the time I first learned how

969
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: to do color pencils, I've always wanted to be able

970
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: to drop portraits. And when I learned how to do

971
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: portraits from a class that chest Stain, it was it

972
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: was automatic for me to do my daughter almost every year.

973
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: So I have about eight pieces seven pieces of.

974
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: Her already, you know, So I want to be able

975
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: to give her that as like my homage to her

976
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: for my art, you know, and she's an artist as well.

977
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: She's actually pretty sCOD to drawing. That's dope. That's dope.

978
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 2: So if you could draw Mount Rushmore up here right

979
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: now or painted, I should say, who would you paint

980
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 2: on your Mount Rushing?

981
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 3: Why are you gonna put him in the box the

982
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: painting Mount Rushmore for like what? Like just just like

983
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 3: in life? So who've helped you get to where you

984
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: are right now? My father?

985
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: You know, my father's huge rock for me. He very

986
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: similar to him in a lot of ways. He's uh,

987
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: I feel like my my benchmark is still to reach him.

988
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He's still improving, he's still reading,

989
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 3: still gaining knowledge.

990
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: You know.

991
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: My dad's big on learning, which I'm big on and

992
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: I never want to stop learning. Like if it's one

993
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: thing I don't want to lose is my brain and

994
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: I want to keep able to think and learn. My

995
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: Dad's definitely a high anchor. It's tough man because God's God.

996
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: God is always number one in my life. You know,

997
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: if there was a picture of God or a face,

998
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: you know, he's all four of them. Mount Rushmore's my mother.

999
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 1: My mother is just the passion She has the love,

1000
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: she's taught me the respect and etiquette. And it's hard

1001
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: to think of four people, man.

1002
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:34,479
Speaker 3: But you got one more moms, pops. God. It's tough.

1003
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: It's tough because I like I love everybody very equally,

1004
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: you know, but you only get to put one more.

1005
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 3: I only get to put one on the stone, man.

1006
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: I mean, you could throw my face on there if

1007
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 3: you want to.

1008
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: I take it these as I throw off these on

1009
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: the last round Mount Rushmore.

1010
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 3: Man, I mean, if you want to actually joke it.

1011
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: I really can't think of a fourth because like my mother,

1012
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: my father and God were things I was always taught

1013
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: in life. You know, you know, you respect your mother

1014
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: and father, and then if you have faith and you

1015
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: follow the words properly, you know, through the us and downs,

1016
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: then for the most part, life can steer the way

1017
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: way way. God is going to help you, help you

1018
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: steer it. And it's just it's just tough because, like

1019
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: I asked, so many we've we've all had so many

1020
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: influential people in our lives, you know, so just s

1021
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: for is tough. I need like fifteen ten people. I

1022
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: appreciate a lot of people that have come into my life. Man,

1023
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: and in tons of different ways, whether it's military, whether

1024
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: it was football, whether it was schooling my head coach

1025
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: from from high school, like my coach from college, Like

1026
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: I had my friend passing college, Jasper Howard, in my

1027
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: senior year. So a lot of people that were around

1028
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: me my in college influenced me to keep going and

1029
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: keep pushing, even seeing death during the season of a teammate,

1030
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: you know. So it was a it's tons of people, man,

1031
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: It's tons of people, man. It's just that's tough. That's tough.

1032
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: Maybe my brother, my older brother, he's twenty six years

1033
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: in the military, just retired two years ago. The military too, yeah,

1034
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: Army and these special forces, I believe as well, twenty

1035
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: six years in Nice State, Georgia State Patrol down Savannah.

1036
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: So he's he's a big influence of me as well,

1037
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: because when I see my older brother doing all this stuff,

1038
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, I want to be in the

1039
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: military too. I'm like, Oh, he's going to Afghanistan. I

1040
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: want to go to Afghanistan too, you know, I'm like,

1041
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: I want to be al up. My Dad's always taught

1042
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: me and us and our family and my siblings to

1043
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: to learn about the world and learn about history and

1044
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: learn about the things that have shaped societies and cultures,

1045
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: you know. So I've always wanted to leave the country,

1046
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: knowing our country has such a small history, you know,

1047
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: knowing that the world has such large histories out there

1048
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: to learn, you know. And I don't like traveling, so

1049
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: it's kind of tough. So I was like, I love

1050
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: the world and history and stuff. I don't want to

1051
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: fly eighteen hours ago there, you know what. I but

1052
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: there's tons of stuff out there, man. But my brother's definitely,

1053
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: he's up there in the Mount Rushmore.

1054
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: He's up there. Hey, man, Moms, Pop's God and brother.

1055
00:46:59,640 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 3: I like.

1056
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, I'm very family oriented, my friends. I'm very

1057
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: close to all my friends, very close to you guys,

1058
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 1: and very close to my teammates.

1059
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: Man.

1060
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: So it's like it's times of p y'all all influence.

1061
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 3: You was a good teammate, Bro. I appreciate you good people.

1062
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 4: Well, Robert Man, I appreciate you for blessing our time

1063
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 4: with your time, and dude, I'm just thankful that you're.

1064
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 3: Here, Bro, Thank you man, and that we get to

1065
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 3: celebrate you.

1066
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: Thank you by having us on and letting the rest

1067
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,479
Speaker 2: of the world and everybody our listeners know who Robert

1068
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: McClain truly is on and off the field, and that

1069
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 2: you continue to pour into us and we're thankful for it.

1070
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 3: Man, So thank you for that. Appreciate it.

1071
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: Also sharing your mind that you're a very inquisitive person

1072
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 2: that continues to learn and you will be different in

1073
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: a week than.

1074
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 3: You are today. Yeah, fact it.

1075
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: So that's beautiful, man, So thank you for that, man,

1076
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: really really appreciate it.

1077
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: Man. I'm gonna get us out of here. You ready

1078
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 3: to pee up?

1079
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 4: And all right, man, all of our listeners and viewers

1080
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 4: out there, make sure you give us a five star rating,

1081
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 4: give us a review, like comment, subscribe wherever you pick

1082
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 4: up your podcast, whether it's iHeartRadio app or Apple Podcasts.

1083
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 4: Appreciate you tell a friend to tell a friend to

1084
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 4: do what Peanut tell a friend.

1085
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 2: And watch our NFL YouTube channel. That's the new one

1086
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 2: for me. We're gonna get it all down at some

1087
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 2: point though we are professionals. Peanut, get us out of

1088
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: her dog. I'm gonna get you up out of here.

1089
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: That's Robert Peanut, Roman NFL Player Second Acts Podcast.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate y'all. It's a rap