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Speaker 3: Welcome to Idea Generations All Angles, a podcast about culture's

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Speaker 3: most influential brands and the teams that built them. If

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Speaker 3: you're an entrepreneur, creative, or anyone interested in harnessing the

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Speaker 3: power of collaboration, join me Noah Callahan ever each week

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Speaker 3: as we dissect the most dynamic companies in culture. Because

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Speaker 3: the only way to truly understand success is to look

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Speaker 3: at it from all angles. Idea Generations All Angles is

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Speaker 3: a Will Packer Media podcast. In twenty eighteen, Lena waith

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Speaker 3: an Emmy Award winning writer and actor from Chicago, founded Hilmingrad,

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Speaker 3: a film and television development and production company. With the

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Speaker 3: help of CEO Rishi Rijani waith In, Hilman Grad would

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Speaker 3: realize the company's unique vision, focusing on marginalized storytellers and

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Speaker 3: giving a platform to diverse voices across all mediums. On

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Speaker 3: the strength of Lena's as sending star and Rishi's meticulous

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Speaker 3: implementation of their shared vision, the company would experience a

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Speaker 3: string of rapid successes, securing deals in landing projects at Showtime, Netflix, Disney, Amazon,

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Speaker 3: and more. But along the way, as always happens its

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Speaker 3: scaling success, comes public scrutiny and internal challenges, and Hilman

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Speaker 3: Grad is no exception. On this week's episode of All Angles,

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Speaker 3: we talk with founder Lina Waith, CEO Rishi Rijani, as

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Speaker 3: well as VP of Operations Justin Riley and President of

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Speaker 3: TV and Film Naomi Funabashi to get the complete story

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Speaker 3: of how they built Hillman Grad into one of the

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Speaker 3: any of that happened, years prior to hillm and Grad

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Speaker 3: putting their first show on air, Leena Wait, a young

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Speaker 2: I came to Los Angeles with the hopes of being

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Speaker 2: It was really about doing writers groups and going to

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Speaker 3: The two decided to meet at La Mille Coffee Shop,

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Speaker 4: tough for us, and ultimately Netflix ended up winning the day,

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Speaker 4: but then the pandemic and so Netflix ended up being

438
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Speaker 4: the best option for us completely because the movie wouldn't

439
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Speaker 4: have come out for another couple of years really if

440
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Speaker 4: we hadn't gone with them. That project became a real

441
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Speaker 4: launching point for us because I think it made people

442
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Speaker 4: look at us a little bit differently as being very

443
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Speaker 4: legitimate producers that can come to us on dance with

444
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Speaker 4: that film and knock everybody socks off. It was this

445
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Speaker 4: sort of crazy world win for us that I think

446
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Speaker 4: really established us as the advocates for artists to be

447
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Speaker 4: able to look at somebody's passion project that they're writing, starring,

448
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Speaker 4: and directing and that the town hadn't really seen, and

449
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Speaker 4: in tandem with us, just with us signing this Amazon

450
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Speaker 4: deal for TV, so we're exclusively with Amazon for two years.

451
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Speaker 4: It gave us the capital and the ability and the

452
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Speaker 4: resources are hiring more members of the team, which was

453
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Speaker 4: a big relief for me.

454
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Speaker 3: After the success of forty year old Version, Hillman grad

455
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Speaker 3: continue just search for stories to share, and Naomi quickly

456
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 3: discovered that these stories can come from literally anywhere you

457
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Speaker 3: can come from anything.

458
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Speaker 5: It's books, comics, even in some cases Reddit threads, but

459
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Speaker 5: also it's things that are personal to us. Sometimes it's

460
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Speaker 5: just sitting with a writer too and you realize that

461
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Speaker 5: you both are in telling this type of story, and

462
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Speaker 5: then your brainstorming together, you're cracking a take. It can

463
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Speaker 5: also just come in in terms of like you meet

464
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Speaker 5: a director and they're like, I have a passion project

465
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Speaker 5: that I really want to make next. It's this thing

466
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Speaker 5: we A lot of times we say as home Ingrad

467
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Speaker 5: it is our job to sort of try to shift

468
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Speaker 5: and change the expectation of what the story can be.

469
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Speaker 5: And so we sometimes tell creatives that we're meeting with,

470
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Speaker 5: what's the story you always want us to tell? But

471
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Speaker 5: people have said now, and a lot of times incredible

472
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Speaker 5: stories come out of that.

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Speaker 3: One of those stories was Queen and Sulin, the twenty

474
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Speaker 3: nineteen film starring Daniel Caluja and Jody Turner Smith.

475
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Speaker 2: James Fribby picked me that idea about man a woman

476
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Speaker 2: they get pulled over, kill a compa self defense and

477
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Speaker 2: go on the run. I was like, Oh, that's it, interest,

478
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Speaker 2: that's a movie. There's something there, and that's really where

479
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Speaker 2: that was born. When I heard that idea. Now I

480
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: got to write this, I aspired.

481
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Speaker 3: Hillman Grad was racking up credits across Hollywood, but making

482
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Speaker 3: sure that the company was an incubator for underrepresented creators

483
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 3: remained paramount. So they expanded their focus on coaching young

484
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Speaker 3: talent by hiring organizational leader Justin Riley as VP of

485
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Speaker 3: Operations and Business Development. And with that addition, hillm Ingrad

486
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Speaker 3: recalibrated the ambitions of their mentorship program and decided it

487
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Speaker 3: was time to go big.

488
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Speaker 6: These first twelve months really have been focused on getting

489
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Speaker 6: our company set. We hadn't really focused on that. It

490
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Speaker 6: was more focused on the creative lens of let's get

491
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Speaker 6: more projects. We need more help, we have more ideas.

492
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Speaker 6: Here comes this opportunity. Let's push, push, push the creativelopment.

493
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Speaker 6: But in pushing all of that, you also have to

494
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Speaker 6: operationalize and organize your company to ensure that it can

495
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Speaker 6: function at a high level on a day to day.

496
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Speaker 6: So that's where I spend a lot of my time

497
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Speaker 6: doing the boring stuff that no one likes to pay

498
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Speaker 6: attention to, but we all know is critical to a

499
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Speaker 6: business success. The key of what Lena preaches is mastering

500
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Speaker 6: one's craft. She's very adamant of being well studied, well versed,

501
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Speaker 6: and being knowledgeable about the space that you occupy. And

502
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Speaker 6: so we want to create a program that really had

503
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Speaker 6: an emphasis on teaching. Even though it's called the Mentorship Lab,

504
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Speaker 6: it's non traditional mentorship program where we pair you with

505
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Speaker 6: someone in the industry. You meet once a month, you

506
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 6: go have lunch, you have coffee. In six months you

507
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Speaker 6: hopefully they can land you a position or a meeting somewhere.

508
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Speaker 6: That's not what the program is. It's really a nine

509
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Speaker 6: month creative's academy where you really go deep in your

510
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Speaker 6: bag as a creative. So there's three tracks, one for writers,

511
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Speaker 6: one for actors, and one for execs. And we have

512
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Speaker 6: a whole curriculum built out. We have teachers that we

513
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Speaker 6: have hired to teach this. They meet once a week

514
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Speaker 6: every Saturday for three hours. Right now, we are funding

515
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Speaker 6: it through Lina's generosity, and I think that's what is

516
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Speaker 6: something that's so special too, is because mentorship is so

517
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Speaker 6: so important to her that she was willing to reinvest

518
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Speaker 6: her own money into tomorrow's future.

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Speaker 2: Mentorship was such a huge part of my brand. I

520
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Speaker 2: think that's because I was mentored. But I was doing

521
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Speaker 2: it when I was an assistant, you know, when people

522
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Speaker 2: would ask me things like, hey, this is what I've learned,

523
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Speaker 2: this is what I know, this is what does really

524
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Speaker 2: well for me, because I really was becoming a professional

525
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Speaker 2: assistant at one point. I mean it was crazy, but

526
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Speaker 2: because I had such a good reputation, people were like, yeah,

527
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Speaker 2: get her, she'll be great because I really did take

528
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Speaker 2: it so seriously. My assister Aba DuVernay and Gina Princes

529
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Speaker 2: bis to It and Mark bucker Kill. I mean these

530
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Speaker 2: are people where I could not drop the ball. And

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Speaker 2: that's why for me, I just knew that there was

532
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Speaker 2: always something to be.

533
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Speaker 1: Shared, even from those days. And then as.

534
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Speaker 2: Obviously as I progressed in my career, I would just

535
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Speaker 2: learn things.

536
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Speaker 1: I would go, oh, that's not shouldn't do that or

537
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Speaker 1: remember that. But you only learn from when.

538
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Speaker 2: You trip up, before you make a mistake, be from

539
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Speaker 2: when you slip in the fall. So real mentorship is

540
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Speaker 2: not just telling somebody, oh, I can get you a

541
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Speaker 2: job or here, come do this. It's really about hey,

542
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Speaker 2: like what's going on with you mentally, emotionally. But I've

543
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Speaker 2: learned in terms of mentoring some people especially when I

544
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Speaker 2: was just starting out on my own, before I actually

545
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Speaker 2: had a mentorship program. I found over the years a

546
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Speaker 2: lot of people have since left LA. I've got emails

547
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Speaker 2: some people that said, you know what I learned while

548
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Speaker 2: doing this, I don't want to be a writer.

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Speaker 1: It sounded cool.

550
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Speaker 2: I thought it was supposed to be cool, but then

551
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Speaker 2: after getting into it, I'm like, oh, I don't want

552
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Speaker 2: to be doing this.

553
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Speaker 1: This is hard. I gotta secrific I can do this.

554
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Speaker 2: I got to rewrite again and again, and then then

555
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Speaker 2: when I get into an actor, they may want to

556
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Speaker 2: change it and I gotta put it out, and then

557
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Speaker 2: I gotta it's so I'm like, yeah, and so what

558
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Speaker 2: I try to do is tell people the truth about

559
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Speaker 2: what it really is, because I think it's easy to

560
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Speaker 2: kind of go on someone with my Instagram or somebody's

561
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Speaker 2: social media and go, oh, it's so fun that you're

562
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Speaker 2: at a premiere with this actor, you're at a party,

563
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Speaker 2: and I know, and it's so difficult to show everybody

564
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Speaker 2: the entire process. But the truth is, what we try

565
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Speaker 2: to do is tell people the truth and say this

566
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Speaker 2: is what it means to be a working actor. This

567
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Speaker 2: is what it means to be a writer, because I

568
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Speaker 2: think people think, oh, you're writing and you're getting paid

569
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Speaker 2: to do it, But no, you're also dealing with a

570
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Speaker 2: bunch of notes execs.

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Speaker 1: You know, you may disagree.

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Speaker 2: With your producer partner about how to in the film

573
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Speaker 2: or what to do, and so I think those are

574
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Speaker 2: the things that people don't necessarily think to tell you

575
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Speaker 2: in the middle of the mentoring process.

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Speaker 3: With the expansion of its mentorship program and a full

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Speaker 3: slate of projects and production, Hillman Grad looks ahead with

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Speaker 3: their core mission intact to provide a platform for diverse

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Speaker 3: voices across all mediums, and with a prodigious crop of

580
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Speaker 3: new professional talent emerging from their program and looking to

581
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Speaker 3: enter the industry, Hillm and Grad is positioned for success

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Speaker 3: long into the future.

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Speaker 4: Over the past year and a half, I've been in

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Speaker 4: this interesting position where the company has been growing and expanding.

585
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Speaker 4: We have been starting a lot of new verticals the company,

586
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 4: which has been really exciting. And so we have film

587
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 4: and TV, which is the core business. We started a

588
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 4: record label that's underneath def Jam. We started a book

589
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Speaker 4: publishing side under Xando Books. You know, are into the

590
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Speaker 4: process of creating a branded content division have the Helmo

591
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Speaker 4: Grad Foundation and our mentorships and a really kind of

592
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Speaker 4: super fruitful partnership with Indeed that we've been doing on

593
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Speaker 4: that front. Have a fashion line that's coming out. I've

594
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Speaker 4: been talking about a cannabis line. We have a podcast

595
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Speaker 4: Division two Rima on Trasfers podcast.

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Speaker 6: You can't work at Him and Grad and not champion

597
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Speaker 6: underrepresented voices, not driven to create opportunities for those who

598
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Speaker 6: are often overlooked and discounted and stepped over. That ethos

599
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 6: is here and if you ever hear at Lena talk,

600
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Speaker 6: you get that. If you see anything that we put out,

601
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Speaker 6: whether that's on social that's through our projects that we

602
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Speaker 6: create out or any of the events that we do,

603
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Speaker 6: it's very community centered POC focus. When you can create

604
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Speaker 6: a company that influences culture and has people talking about

605
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Speaker 6: what you do beyond just the projects you create, you

606
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Speaker 6: know there's something special there.

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Speaker 4: I think transparency is the number one thing. It's the

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Speaker 4: thing that I didn't have a lot coming up in

609
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Speaker 4: the business, and so I really try to let our

610
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Speaker 4: team know where we're at, let our team know we're

611
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Speaker 4: at from a revenue perspective, knowing what we need to

612
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Speaker 4: hit and why we're making the choices that we're making,

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Speaker 4: you know, being able to bring people into collaborative, creative

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Speaker 4: conversations about the mission of the company, because we are

615
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Speaker 4: still a startup in a lot of ways, and we're

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Speaker 4: still kind of defining our mission and what we all

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Speaker 4: stand for. And I'd much prefer that mission be something

618
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Speaker 4: that is defined by our team versus something that's weird

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Speaker 4: and top down and feels like something is just being

620
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Speaker 4: put on everybody. It's transparency, it's listening, it's bringing people

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Speaker 4: in the conversation. It's being able to take criticism.

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Speaker 5: For me, it's getting to see and invest in talented

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Speaker 5: creatives that we know are talented and see them get

624
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Speaker 5: their shot, see them get their recognition, see people respond

625
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Speaker 5: to the art, and be like, that's my story too.

626
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Speaker 5: I feel seen by this. No one is talking about this,

627
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Speaker 5: but this person is. It's getting to see them have

628
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Speaker 5: their shot and see that story be met with a

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Speaker 5: lot of love and success. I mean, even on Chain

630
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Speaker 5: Can Dunk, I felt this personally, but I loved being

631
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Speaker 5: in some test screenings where some people were like, oh,

632
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Speaker 5: that's me. You know, growing up, I was that kid.

633
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Speaker 5: I never seen myself on screen before or I've never

634
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Speaker 5: seen this moment between a mom and or son talking

635
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Speaker 5: about food and flavoring and it's little things, but it's

636
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Speaker 5: a reminder that there are so many experiences that should

637
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Speaker 5: be equally valued, and I think getting to see that

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Speaker 5: is success for me.

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Speaker 2: I want people to work with folks that they're not

640
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Speaker 2: going to be exactly like you, but they are like

641
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Speaker 2: minded and have the same mission. If you have five

642
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Speaker 2: people working on a project and only four of them

643
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Speaker 2: are about the mission and one of them isn't, there's

644
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Speaker 2: going to be friction and so you got to say, like, hey,

645
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Speaker 2: either we can keep this person or we can say, hey,

646
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Speaker 2: you don't seem to be aligned with our mission, so

647
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Speaker 2: we're gonna wish you well and we're going to find

648
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Speaker 2: somebody who's come more aligned, and we're going to keep

649
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Speaker 2: a pushing And that is true leadership to kind of say, hey,

650
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Speaker 2: I got to make sure everybody is following the same

651
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Speaker 2: mission and we're on the same pave. It's never been

652
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Speaker 2: just me, and I think that's back and impart anything

653
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Speaker 2: on the next version is like get your community, get

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Speaker 2: by yourself.

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Speaker 1: Don't do it by yourself, do it with a group

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Speaker 1: of people.

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Speaker 4: Can we continue to be the champion for voices? Can

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Speaker 4: we continue to build this platform and really stand for

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Speaker 4: what we believe in? And I think the answer is yes.

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Speaker 4: Each of these various divisions has the potential to grow

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Speaker 4: to the size, scope and scale that film and TV has.

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Speaker 4: And so while it has been this kind of insane

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Speaker 4: all at once, they all kind of fit into our

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Speaker 4: core mission of being an entertainment company, a content company

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Speaker 4: that just happens to exist in various different mediums as well.

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Speaker 4: So I think we probably wouldn't do anything that felt

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Speaker 4: super out of the box for us, or like in

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Speaker 4: a completely different industry or business. But you know, everything

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Speaker 4: we have right now feels like it's part of the

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Speaker 4: same mission.

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Speaker 2: The biggest thing is us always doing a gut check.

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Speaker 2: We don't want people to come in and be carbon

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Speaker 2: copies of us.

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Speaker 1: That don't help.

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Speaker 2: You want people with a different point of view, people

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Speaker 2: that have different ideas. But the through line is you

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Speaker 2: gotta always have your heart in the right place, and

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Speaker 2: we don't want people that want to step over people.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's about putting the person first.

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Speaker 3: Determine to put the storyteller first, highlight underrepresented voices, and

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Speaker 3: pave the way for young creatives. Helm Ingrat's core mission

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Speaker 3: propels them forward as industry leaders. We lean us in

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Speaker 3: a creativity Reshie's business acumen and the experience of role

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Speaker 3: players like Naomi and Justin Hilming grat success is a

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Speaker 3: team effort and a product of creativity and hard work

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Speaker 3: coming together from All Angles for Idea Generation. I'm Noah

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Speaker 3: Callahan Bever. Thanks for listening to the All Angles Podcast,

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Speaker 3: and honestly, your support means everything. We do this for

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Speaker 3: John Valachick and Helena Ox. Original music by Valentine Fritz,

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Speaker 3: edit and sound mixed by Nonsensible Production, and hosted by

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Speaker 3: me Idea Generation founder Noah Callahan Bever. Idea Generations. All

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