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Of course, it's all part of our ongoing 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.200 training camp coverage here under twenty four to seven Home 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:55.040 of the Black and the Gold. Matt first hour of 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:56.920 the show. I think we kind of went heavy into 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:00.680 today's practice and really the first few practices to this point. 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:03.280 I wanted to transition with you here to start hour 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.959 number two. One of the analysts around the league that 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.200 you and I are fans of, Mike Sando, of course, 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.520 covers the NFL for the athletics, and every single year 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.280 it feels like we keep an eye on his quarterback tiers, 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.640 and he has listed his twenty twenty six NFL quarterback tiers. 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:23.320 How fifty executives and coaches rank thirty five quarterbacks. 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.120 Yeah, and Mike and I were together at ESPN for 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:27.880 ten years. We were you know, there was a stretch 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.280 there that we wrote a weekly article together that was 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:31.679 kind of fun. By the way, he would just call 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:33.840 me like every Wednesday night and we'd chat for like 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:37.160 a half hour, and then that night an article would 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.200 go up of just our conversation. You know, It's kind 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:40.360 of it was kind of a cool way of doing 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:41.920 things general way I have the only time I've ever 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.119 done articles that way. I consider h my friend seem 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.200 at the owners meetings gone by and those type of things. 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:52.880 Great dude learned his trade basically from John Clayton actually 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.040 nice yeah, out in the Seattle area. And this is 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:59.720 kind of like Warren Sharp's book or you know the 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.600 football Almanac that comes out from FTN. It's kind of 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:05.840 a monumental day of the of the year when Sando's 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.880 quarterback tiers come out. Then I'm not taking anything away 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:12.680 from Jeremy Fowler, but Sandos started this approach. Yes, and 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:16.400 then when Fowler replaced him at ESPN, he kept up 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:19.639 with these executives and accumulating votes and all those type 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:21.760 of things, and he goes really deep in the quarterback 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:22.800 stuff as you can imagine. 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:25.040 So again this is not just his opinion. This is 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:29.360 a polled from fifty different executives and coaches around the league. 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:33.960 Four tiers of quarterback rankings, ranking thirty five quarterbacks because 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.760 like for example, Kyler Murray and JJ McCarthy are both 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.560 on here, Deshaun Watson, Shador Sanders, so some of the 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:43.760 teams with the unknown like you know Tua and Michael 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.320 Pennix in Cleveland, so a little bit over thirty two 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.480 because of the subma the world m yes, correct, The 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:51.079 clear cut. 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.639 Is not on there, yes, yeah, as a rookie, yes. 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:55.160 Right, And Mendoz is not on there as a rookie, 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.200 and clear cut backups not on here too. Just some 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.360 of the true quarterback competition that we do have in 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.720 a couple of training camps. Tier one is four names, 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:09.640 Patrick Mahomes number one, Josh Allen two, Matt Stafford three, 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:11.840 and Joe Burrow four. That's Tier one. 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:16.000 Yeah. I was a little shocked that Lamar. 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.760 Now granted he's fifth, he's number one and Tier two, but. 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:20.880 Yeah, and I guess it's all about the math and 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.400 your votes, and you have to have x amount to 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:27.000 be in each tier. You have to average out tool 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.640 less than a two, you know, one point three or whatever. 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.960 It is a Tier one guy. So I guess we're 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.360 splitting hairs because the top five or the top five 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.320 I would have. But I don't think by any stretch, 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:42.080 Lamar should not be a Tier one guy. And this 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.480 sounds dumb because Mahomes, I think is the best quarterback 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.160 that ever lived, and I sing his praises to no end. 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.200 I expected Alan to be one. 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.119 Yeah, I did, especially off of Mahomes coming last couple 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.760 of years ago, off a year where he wasn't healthy 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:56.080 and wasn't at his best. 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.920 Do you think any of our listeners are going Burrow 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.280 can't be in Tier one, not because he's a ban one, 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:02.960 maybe because. 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:04.920 Maybe because he's a Bengal, because he. 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:07.360 Doesn't run great. 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.040 I think he's missed what fifteen games over the last 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:11.640 three years or something like that. 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:13.680 That's hard to put on the back burner. He would 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:15.520 still be in my Tier one. Might say he shouldn't 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:15.960 I think. 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:17.360 He would still be in my Tier one. I bet 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.640 you there's some listeners that disagree with both Burrow and 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.640 uh and Lamar in that in that vein. You can 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:24.560 get at us on Twitter if you if you want 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.440 to chime in on that. I will say this though, 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.080 for for Joe Burrows, I don't want to say legacy 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.320 because he's not even thirty yet. I don't think he's 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.839 got a long time to But for Joe Burrow, what 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:39.080 he's viewed at present day, right now, his current legacy, 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.080 there's a lot on the line for this year. I 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.280 agree because I mean it's it's now been what it's 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.440 been five years since that Super Bowl appearance. It's been 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:49.279 a long time. It's and we already cast we all 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.120 know it's. This is a very much what have you 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.640 done formulately type league where even you know Mahomes is 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:56.560 starting to not this one, but Mahomes is starting to 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.159 fall down on some of these lists. He's won three 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:00.040 Super Bowls, and Ben. 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.600 Like, I can't imagine Mahomes not being in a Tier 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.000 one next year. Sure, and he's had such a body 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.080 of work and so many wins and rings, et cetera, 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:12.119 et cetera, where Burrow. If they go seven and ten 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.560 and he misses four games, again, it might be like 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.400 he's six or seventh on this list. It works, right, 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.400 you know, something like Dak has a huge year and 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:22.599 bumps on them or who knows. You know. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:28.000 So Tier two is from fifth down to seventeenth. That's 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.960 those are the rankings there. Fire probably the biggest Tier two, 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:35.000 pretty big Tier two leading off with Lamar Jackson at five, 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.880 as I mentioned, and then Justin Herbert checks in at six. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.400 I think he would be my six as well. I 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.480 know that the it's hard to ignore this point that 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:47.640 the postseason success has not been there at all this 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.760 past year. I think he dragged them into the You 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:53.720 that if you're the twelfth best quarterback, I don't even 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.240 think they're in the dance. So how much do you 0:05:56.279 --> 0:06:00.359 weigh that? But his numbers, his performance is epa like 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:04.120 that in the postseason are definitely lacking. And that's the 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.080 last piece of his resume. But he could be a 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:09.000 Tier one guy next year. He's actually a coordinator, you know. 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:13.039 He certainly could. Number seven is Dak Prescott formally with 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:13.840 Mike McCarthy. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:16.919 Again, I forget which podcast I was listening to, but 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.520 I heard today that it might have been the Athletic Podcast. 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:22.640 Come and think of it that I think he's a 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:26.320 fifteen to one MVP shot. I think i'd put a 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.159 buck on that. That pays off pretty well because they 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:30.560 could be the best offense in the league. 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:35.280 They absolutely could. Yeah, they certainly could. That's it they man, 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.240 they could put up a ton of points ten yards. 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.640 Dak checks it at number seven. Eighth place is a 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:44.279 two way tie mat between Drake May and Jared Goff. 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.880 Yeah. I looked through these, so I've Actually I didn't 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.160 read all the write ups I wrote the Red the 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.960 Rogers one, but I did see all the lists. I 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:56.359 expected May to be a little higher. His postseason wasn't wonderful, 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:01.400 but boy, I think his future is so very bright. Yeah, 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.800 he's he's a real He's here to stay. I think 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:05.760 he's here to stay. Maybe maybe he won't be the 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.720 MVP runner up next year, but he I think is 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.440 going to be perennially in the top ten of this 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.480 list for a long time. I'll be shocked if ten 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.760 years from now we're sitting here and it's like, remember 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.920 that one year May had agreed Super Bowl since then, 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:21.960 he's just been blah. I just don't see that being 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:22.360 the case. 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.440 So May and Golf tie for eight. So number ten 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.880 is Jordan Love. Yeah, Golf Golf in May tied for 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.200 eighth place there in terms of the voting and some 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.080 respect you, I think I'd probably have him a few 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.120 steps further down, like I think, I think i'd have 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.280 Jordan Love and Caleb Williams and some of these guys 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:39.800 in front of him. 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.000 There's more playmakers, yes, But I. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:46.080 Also think Jared Goff has long since shaken that reputation 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.800 that he was just a Sean McVay creation and couldn't 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:49.920 win games anywhere else. 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.640 Or he wasn't worth the first overall pick. Right, if 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:57.440 Mendoza has his career, that's worth the first overall pick, absolutely, 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:57.840 no doubt. 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.520 Absolutely Number ten is Jordan Love. He checks in at 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:01.000 number ten. 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.760 I bet he's sort of divisive, yeah, I mean, just 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:07.520 because he plays such an aggressive style and he doesn't 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:09.400 It's not that he's a bad athlete, but he doesn't 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.040 do a ton with his legs, and he has aided 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:15.280 a fair amount by a very good offensive system. But 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.320 I'm cool with Jordan Love. Man. I love the way 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:17.840 he plays. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:19.760 Yeah, and I think he's one of the guys too 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:21.800 that I think if if I had to pick him 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:23.640 to go up or down on this list, I think 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.920 I would pick him to move up. Yeah, I think 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:27.880 he's I think he's still got some Sure he's a 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:29.920 Tier three guy, Yes, sir, I think I've got some more. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.200 He's got some more juice in his game to squeeze still. 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.600 Number eleven is a tie once again between Caleb Williams 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:36.640 and Brock Purty. 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.679 Yeah. I saw the little blurb on Party Party's getting 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:42.560 some respect. It was kind of interesting. I said something 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:46.520 like stronger than you think, better than you think, And 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.600 I think that's true. I mean I really had a 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.400 hard time respecting Party his rookie year. I'm like, this 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.040 is a story that's just going to fall part and 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:55.120 it hasn't at all. 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.800 Hey, from mister from mister irrelevant to h to number 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.480 eleven on this list, So. 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:04.280 Those Caleb could win MVPs too, he certainly. 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:06.000 Yeah, Yeah, he's another one that I think could move 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:07.920 up on this list. He's I think he's got to 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:09.840 do it for one more year to truly prove that 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:13.480 he's round at that corner and is who we thought 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:15.080 he was going to be coming out of college, but 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.080 last year was a really good step in the right direction. 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.720 And with Ben Johnson at the Helm, I think he's 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:21.720 in one of the best situations possible. 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.600 Absolutely, coaches embracing it, and they're both feeding off each other. 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.920 Yes, number thirteen on this list, matt Is Jaden Daniels 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.440 of the Washington Commander still checks in pretty high here, 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:34.320 firmly in Tier two despite a rocky year filled with 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:35.200 injuries last year. 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.080 I probably would have him higher. I mean, one year ago, 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.199 I thought he was one of the ones most likely 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.240 to knock on the door for a two to go up. 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:43.760 Yeah. 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.720 Now, this past year didn't go great, but I don't 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:49.480 think it was his fault at all. Injuries. I have 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:53.000 two big concerns about Daniels. Neither are his fault. He's 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:54.960 got a lot of injuries going back to LSU, and 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.760 he's a wiry guy like that. I don't really trust 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:01.960 the organization or his supporting cast. I think that they're 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:03.880 going to be two Daniels dependent. 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.280 I'm worried of that. Yeah, and it could be could 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.280 be another year then picking in the top ten and. 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.520 Yeah, and coaching change and change, you know what I mean? 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:17.360 Correct? Correct? He checks in at thirteen fourteenth place, a 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:21.160 tie here between two guys Baker Mayfield and finally Matt 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:24.040 Sam Darnold appears on this list. I thought he would 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.360 be a few spots higher after the year. I understand 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.480 it was one year, but I feel like the last 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:31.360 couple of years he's been it's really been two yeah, 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.199 and getting the super Bowl and everything that he did 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.439 this past year. But he checks in tied at fourteenth 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:36.240 with Baker Mayfield. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.320 I forget what the blurb is. Just there's a blurb 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.520 like right next to their names. It says something like 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.520 Baker is the biggest roller coaster at their quarterback position 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.280 they've ever seen, or something like that, which I think 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.160 I kind of chuckled. I'm like, that's dead on, and 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.040 part of the roller coaster was great, some of it's 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.480 a disaster. You hope Donald doesn't have those trades. He 0:10:55.840 --> 0:11:00.400 seemed to have found his level footing where the lows 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.120 aren't this extreme anymore. 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.320 That's a very good point, very good point, and that's 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:07.960 I think been a big key to what we've seen 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.000 from him the last two years. So those two tie 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:13.320 for fourteenth sixteenth place. Then is Trevor Lawrence. 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:14.320 I would have him. 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:15.480 I would have him higher. 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.280 Four or five spots. Tis a lot of these names 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.439 we just brought up. I think Lawrence is more talented, 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:22.679 put up a lot better tape than some of them 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.000 last year. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if he 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:28.920 could ever be tier one the super prospect. I mean, 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.080 that's not fair to him, but I think he's well 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.520 worth the first overall pick as well, well worth the 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.400 contract ascending also benefits from a good coach. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.440 And then the last one here in Tier two, Matt 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:44.200 rounding up the kind of almost first half of this 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.520 list since thirty five teams, so not an exact midway point, 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.160 but about the midway here. Last guy in tier two 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.080 Jalen Hurts of the Philadelphia Eagles, seventeenth overall. 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:57.240 Yeah, I have a hard time backing Hurts. His style 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.520 of play isn't for me. I mean, he's the only 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:04.280 name I could see possibly getting benched out of this list, 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:05.839 and I know that he. 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:07.880 Probably won't, but of all the guys we've mentioned so far, 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:09.280 he would be the one most likely. 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.959 Yeah, you know that there's a new system installed there. 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:15.760 I think there's a blurb something along the lines of, 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.520 you know, you can't rely on your athleticism and strength 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:21.080 and speed forever. You got to become more of a 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:24.880 refined old school quarterback, and I think that's lacking right now. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.160 I'm with you. I'm with you. It's a big year, 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.800 big year for Jalen Hurtsay, Listen, He's always going to 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.080 be a Super Bowl champion, oh yeah, yeah, and you 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:34.600 won't be able to take that away from him. But 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:38.960 in terms of his long term future in both Philadelphia 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.360 and the National Football League, this is a big year 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:43.520 for him. Matt, I do want to get to tier 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.000 three and tier four of this list, the back half 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:47.800 of this list. But we have two more pieces of 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.040 breaking news coming across the timeline here. The first, the 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.440 Bears and our guy Darnell Wright have agreed to a 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:57.760 four year hod and sixteen million dollars stat making him 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:01.040 one of the NFL's highest paid tackles. Ninety three million 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:01.920 of that guaranteed. 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.280 So you're hoping Falton who follows suit, you know, and 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.559 that's kind of neighborhood you're gonna be thinking about when 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.840 it's his turn. There aren't many right tackles I would 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:15.120 take Overwright in terms of who I want now and 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:20.040 going forward. Masher trendsetter. A lot of money getting thrown 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:21.000 around this league right now. 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.040 He's he's an absolute stud. He really is, according to 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.600 Jeremy Fowler, biggest deal ever for a right tackle, most 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.640 guaranteed money ever for an offensive lineman in league history. 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:32.560 Wow, yeah, I mean he. I guess he is to 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:36.400 the point at his age where most ever numbers are 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:36.920 in play. 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.480 Absolutely absolutely. And then the second piece good enough to 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.640 play WU though wasn't good enough to be recruited at 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.400 WU by Daniel Holgerson. But he can sign a one 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.679 hundred billion dollar contract in the NFL. I'm in hell, 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:53.360 Matt Williamson. Another piece of news across the timeline here 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:57.959 just a few minutes ago. That's unfortunate. The young promising 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.840 edge rusher from the Atlanta Falcons, Jalen Walker. 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:02.320 Oh, he's one of my faves. 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.839 Feared to have torn his ACL line practice. 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.360 I mentioned I did a Carolina podcast, but our six 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.839 pack was Carolina and Atlanta, and I, well, I guess 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:12.920 that's actually kind of good for the Steelers. I shouldn't 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.839 say that, but because we were talking about that, those 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.120 edge guys I was talking about how they finally found 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:20.920 a passer, yes, you know, and I thought they were 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:24.320 so smart to keep Jeff Olbrick their defensive coordinator. And 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.200 It's been a while since I've quoted the staff, but 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.320 I love it, and it was going into last year. 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.000 Over the last five years, Steelers had the most Saxon League, 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.520 Falcons had the least. Over the last ten years, Steelers 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.520 have had the most Saxon League, Falcons have had the least. 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.880 Over the last twenty years, Falcons have had the least 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.920 amount of Saxon League, Steers had the most. Like this 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:47.400 has been a two decade long problem of having. And 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.920 maybe they overpaid for Walker and Pierce, you know, gave 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.960 it that first round pick. But I said just five 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.600 minutes or ten minutes ago in my room that Walker 0:14:58.240 --> 0:14:59.840 is a home run pick. I think he's going to 0:14:59.880 --> 0:15:03.080 be phenomenal player. And then we were talking about Pierce 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.720 because I guess Peers, we know he got in trouble. 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:10.400 He did some sort of deal where charges were dropped 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:15.000 or whatever, but they still are assuming he's gonna be 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.240 suspended a long time. NFL can still do whatever they want, Yes, 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:22.000 So I hate injuries. I don't feel for someone to 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.960 get suspended for doing something wrong to a woman, correct, 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:28.320 But it sounds pretty unlikely that those d rushers are 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:29.040 going to play in Week. 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.320 One, which, as you mentioned, is a good thing for 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.680 the Pittsburgh steel Yeah. Oh yeah, as much as as 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.440 much as it breaks my heart about what I know, 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.360 that's a real bummer. He really uh was one of 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.120 the more fun younger guys to watch, and hey, I 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.080 guess there's always the hope that they could get him 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.960 an MRI and it's not as bad as they feared. 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.560 But it seems like all reports that they think he 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:52.000 tore his a cl in a tough, tough start to 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.760 camp here for the Atlanta Falcons, and that. 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.000 Penix isn't playing yet. Yeah, I mean too have missed 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.960 a little time already. You wouldn't they did extend. 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:02.200 I was just gonna say, though, you wanted the good 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.600 vibes of extending Beijon to permeate here for a couple days, 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:07.160 and then you get that devastating news. 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:08.840 That's rough man foundation player. 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.000 All the best to him and hopefully for a for 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:14.000 a full recovery. We'll continue talking some quarterback tiers as 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.040 we roll along here, in hour number two, Euler and 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.160 Williamson live on the campus of Saint Vincent College High 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.880 attop Chuck Nolefield. 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Eighteenth overall. 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.440 Matt leading off Tier three is Bonix. 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:43.240 Okay, a little bit more of a roller coaster than I, well, 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.080 a lot more than I expected. Like when he came 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:47.520 out of Oregon, I thought he's going to be a 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:52.200 take care of the ball, especially when Peyton drafted him 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.560 distributor just do whatever the coach says. A lot of 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.080 dumps to the running backs, things of that nature. But 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.560 he's more athletic and he's more volatile than I thought, 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:03.000 which is good and bad. Yeah. 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:07.000 Yeah, I was very surprised when he ended up being 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:10.160 a first round pick. I have very much choice, maybe 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.479 even more so than than I was when Jackson Dart 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.560 was you know, two years ago. But I think he's 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:18.560 definitely proved that he's been worth it, and I think 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:20.440 that's a good way to put it. He's he's better, 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:22.040 certainly than I thought he was going to be. Still 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.360 a lot of volatility to his game. He's another guy, 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.880 big year for him here in twenty twenty six. 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.199 So you know how we played go fish sometimes or 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:34.000 you know, door number two hypothetical Steelers. He's the first 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:38.240 round pick on a quarterback, and when he's Nix's age 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:41.639 and experience, he's exactly where Nicks is. Would you take it? 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:42.240 Go Fish? 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.240 I think i'd go fish too. Yeah. Absolutely, it's not 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:46.560 the worst thing. I mean, they went to the Final 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:48.200 four and they may have even won the Super Bowl 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.040 if he stays healthy. But I'll go Fish. 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:51.840 I will go Fish. I want to step into the 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:55.119 batter's box and hit a home run where he feels 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.400 like a gap into the a double into the gap. 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.040 I mean, I can't imagine a world where he turns 0:18:59.040 --> 0:18:59.879 into a Tier one. 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:04.560 Guy number nineteen of this parish, Aaron Rodgers. 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:06.840 He's got to be a tough one on these guys. 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:11.879 I'm sure some of the longtime executives that remember you 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:17.680 know that the best of him are harsh. I mean, 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:20.880 I probably have a hard time ranking him this low, 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.840 but he has deficiencies at this time and he's got 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:27.240 what are some of the right up to it. I 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:29.040 did read his but I mean I thought there were 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.040 some interesting things in there. Hold on, and I don't 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:34.159 really have a problem with that number. Here's another go 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.479 fish going Yeah, would you say he's nineteen nineteen? If 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:41.000 he's in nineteenth, best quarterback when twenty twenty six regular 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:45.560 season ends, do you take that or go fish cool? 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:47.800 I probably take a good number. 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:50.520 I probably take that because I think even realistically, yeah, 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:52.680 you're not going to get that much higher. You could 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.240 maybe get you can maybe get fourteenth, Yeah, but I 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:57.679 think you can thirty. You could get a lot lower. 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:00.919 Yeah. I guess if he really starts to s I think. 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:03.720 I think I would too. I think that's about right. 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:07.000 I mean, I'd love it to be fifteenth instead of nineteenth. Yeah, 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:10.560 but you're still kind of right in that middle ground. 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:13.159 What was the blurb you wanted to know on Aaron Say? 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:14.679 There's a couple of things in there. I thought this 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:15.280 were interesting. 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:17.919 Yeah, here's the write up. He's not able to make 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:21.280 the magic like he used to. He's a third tier 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:23.960 quarterback at best. He can still throw it. I love Aaron. 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:27.000 This is from a NFC defensive coordinator. He can still 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.159 throw it. I love Aaron. He's a tough he's a 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:35.119 tough and mother mother bad word. But he holds the 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:39.280 ball too long and lacks mobility. They come out again. 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.800 I found that interesting. I mean, there are snaps that 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:43.200 he held the ball too long. 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:44.679 But he also had like one of the quickest rest 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:45.320 points in the league. 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:47.639 The biggest complaint is most today just gets it out 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:49.159 too quick and doesn't let plays developed. 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:51.720 You know, they come out against Buffalo one score game 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.080 turnover for a touchdown. He did not get rid of 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:55.919 the ball on time. He is not able to make 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:59.040 that magic like he used to. Aaron Rodgers once made 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:01.800 ten consecutive appearance is in Tier one, spent one year. 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:04.959 Into that nuts when they go back to the history 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:05.520 of what he's. 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.480 Done and now is in his second season in Tier three. 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:10.920 I don't know if anyone's been ten ten straight years 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.800 in Tier one, including like Brady, and it's wild. I 0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:15.640 think he's only done this like twenty twenty five years. 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:17.800 Short like Mahomes might be able to do it. 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:19.280 He probably beaten on the door. 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:22.720 But man, I'll tell you what, that's good, pretty darn good. 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:26.480 Number twenty Matt is c J. Stroud, perhaps the quarterback 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:29.520 with the most at stake in the entire NFL this season. 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:30.520 I thought that was a little harsh. 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:32.640 I think I think a little. 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:34.600 Recency bias of how they played in the playoffs because 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:36.200 this regular season wasn't that bad. 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:38.600 But I would still take him over Baker Mayfield. I 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:42.480 would still take him over probably Jalen Hurts at this point. 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:45.440 Maybe there's there's a few of those names ahead of 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:46.959 him there that I would definitely. I think i'd take 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:49.840 him over Bownecks, honestly, just because the good that we've 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:51.760 seen is it's very good. 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:54.800 Like you could convince me that I wouldn't go fish 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:57.439 on Steet's first round pick turning in. 0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:59.879 His shroud, especially if he finds. 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:02.200 Yeah, I think he'll be here two next year. 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:05.159 I'm hoping for his sake that he does, because I 0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:06.760 like C. J. 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:07.200 Stroud. 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:08.440 I think it was a lot of fun to watch 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:11.440 his rookie year twenty one. Is Daniel Jones, Danny Dimes. 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.640 Okay, he's had a I mean, if when you look 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:18.880 at the ski the scope of his entire career, he's 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:22.760 probably had under a dozen real good games or yeah, 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:26.960 plus games. But there is ability there. I mean, he'll 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:29.240 throw over the middle, he'll he doesn't have a bad 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:32.959 arm or he's not super deficient. He's a really good athlete. 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:35.680 I guess that's about right. But I don't think there's 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:37.520 any name we mentioned that he should be over. 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:39.399 I would agree with you on that like I had 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:42.399 much of their stroud, if much stroud right, I'd be 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:45.360 interesting to see how you would compare Daniel Jones at 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:47.199 twenty one to the guy who checks in at twenty two. 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:48.880 It's Bryce Young of the Carolina Paints. 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:50.840 I'll take Jones. Yeah, Young's not for me. 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:54.640 He's not I know you're massizes mazes. 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.480 Just damn. I'm sorry. He gets ragged all, he gets 0:22:57.480 --> 0:23:01.040 beat up. He has hard time seeing it's a crucial 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:03.320 season for him. He does do some good things. He's 0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:05.240 definitely gotten better, but he's just not for me. 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:07.879 When other small quarterback checks in right behind him at 0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:10.879 twenty three, it's New Minnesota Viking Kyler Murray. 0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:12.200 I bet he's higher. 0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:13.880 I would best here. 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:16.280 He deserves to be here. Now there's questions about him, 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:16.880 don't getting wrong. 0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:18.480 I think he'll trend up, though. I don't know if 0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:20.280 he'll ever get back into being a tier two guy 0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:22.399 like he was at times, but I think he'll trend up. 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:24.199 Yeah, yeah, I think this year will be good for 0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:25.960 his career and someone will pay him. 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:29.440 Number twenty four is Jackson Dart of the New York Giants. 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:31.600 Yeah, I think you know my thoughts on him. 0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:33.960 I mean this is probably about the right range for him. 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:36.840 Yeah. Yeah, there's still a lot to be written in 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.639 that book. But I don't think he's as talented as 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:42.879 people think he is as a thrower, and he also 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:46.800 is learning a big learning curve from the offense he 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:49.399 came from and doesn't protect himself, but I wish his 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:50.280 arm was stronger. 0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:53.480 Twenty five is cam Ward of the Tennessee Titans. Could 0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:54.600 see him moving up this list. 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:58.840 Yeah, he has to be low, but I traded a 0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:01.080 stud a first round pick for him, and I just 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:04.080 think his future is really, really bright. But he could 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:07.160 be on a terrible organization for his whole rookie deal 0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:08.800 when sure could gets kind of forgotten. 0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.240 Twenty six is a tie between two names here both 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:16.080 in the NFC South, Tyler Shuck and Tua tag of Viola. 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:19.480 I'll take Shuck way over to way over to I'll take. 0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:23.119 I'll probably takes Shucked over exactly right, Bryce Young, Jackson 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.600 Dart and maybe even Daniel Jones at this point. 0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:27.479 On you Yeah, he proved a lot to me, and 0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:29.119 you know, I liked him a lot coming after school, 0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:31.040 but you did. Everyone talks about how what he is 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:31.880 only twenty six. 0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:33.880 I know, which for a quarterback. Hey, if you get 0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:35.119 another ten really good years. 0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:36.240 Out of it. Yeah, I mean some of these guys 0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:38.600 stay forever anyway. I mean, that's that could be next 0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:40.400 to you. His first round pick might be twenty five, you. 0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:43.680 Know, so Tua and and Shuck tie for twenty six. 0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:47.040 So at twenty eight in the last player in tier three, 0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:49.480 Kirk Cousins. 0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:53.440 Toughie Val pretty limited at this point, placeholder. 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:55.720 But still but still you could definitely do worse. 0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:58.520 I think you can still do worse, right like I 0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:00.760 would might try to Rogers. Yes, yeah, that. 0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:03.240 Quest without a doubt. And then Matt, there is what 0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:06.880 let's see here, seven names to round this thing out 0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:11.080 in tier four, starting with twenty ninth overall, Malik Willis. 0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:12.080 I'm a big fan. 0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:12.800 He could move up. 0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.159 He could definitely move up. I mean, his situation is 0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.359 not gonna do him any favors. He's being you a receiver. 0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:20.240 But he could convince the Dolphins that they don't need 0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:20.879 a quarterback. 0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:24.360 Could we play receiver for the Miami Dolphins. I think 0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:26.040 that's uh. I think that would come with a nice 0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:27.840 It might be brutal, Matt, but it would come with 0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:30.080 a nice pay grade, pay bump for you and I 0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:31.800 I think put us in bad they can put us 0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:33.480 on the league minimum. I would still be I'd still 0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:35.000 take it thirtieth overall. 0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:39.840 Gino Smith, Yeah, again, I think I blame his surroundings 0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:41.600 more than him. But there's no way to say he 0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:42.240 had a good year. 0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.000 No, And there's no way to rank him ahead of 0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:46.240 some of these people that have been ranked ahead of them. 0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:48.480 I mean, would I rather play against him or Bryce Young? 0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:51.840 Right now? Maybe I would pick Bryce Young. I'd rather 0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:55.119 play against Young. Yeah, but Young had a better year 0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:56.080 than them last year. You know. 0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.880 I think Gino could move up to the twenty two 0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:02.600 to twenty three range. Yeah, from thirty. But I think 0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:04.359 that's about it. It'll be an interesting to see what 0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:06.000 happens with him and how much of that was just 0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:08.920 decline on his part verse what was a terrible situation 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:13.160 for everybody there in Vegas. Thirty one Matt is Deshaun 0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:16.040 Watson of the Cleveland Brands. I don't know how he 0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:18.280 can direct them. We haven't seen him in forever. 0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:20.520 I don't know. You have to put a four on 0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:23.199 him if you're an executive or code. I mean totally. 0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.360 I think I would and would have probably had him 0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:26.800 dead last on this list, but. 0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:28.119 His teammates dead last. 0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:31.159 Actually his teammate is dead last. Not to spoil it, 0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.520 but thirty second is Michael Penox Junior. So that's the 0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:35.800 second Falcon on the list. 0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.840 They haven't been good, but Pennix and McCarthy to me, 0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:40.080 are really incomplete. 0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:44.040 Yeah. I think Pennock's even more so than McCarthy, Yeahcarthy. 0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:48.160 Thirty three is Jacobe Brissette of the Cardinals. 0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:50.240 I think the thing they said about him and then 0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:52.640 the blurb part was just like that's what a Fear 0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:54.760 four guy is all about, Like that's the constant. And 0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:56.400 he made it as a compliment, you know, like he's 0:26:56.400 --> 0:27:01.200 a placeholder. He's a pro. You can win games with him, sure, 0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:02.760 but we know what he is at this point. Yes, 0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:04.719 I don't think he's going to reinvent himself. 0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:08.600 Thirty four JJ McCarthy in thirty five Shador Sanders. 0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:12.320 Yeah, those are the two you'd have to probably rank lowest. 0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:15.359 I think I got much to go off of the spot. 0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:17.120 I certainly think so, Although if. 0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:19.480 You had Watson last, i'd totally understand I might have. 0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:21.560 That's the one that I might have had last because 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.720 it's just when was the last time we saw him 0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:24.520 do anything right? 0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:27.040 Like Kirk Cousins is way better than Watson right now. 0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:29.120 Yes, you know, without it in terms of what we say, 0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:30.560 in terms of what you see in which. 0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.360 If you Matt had to had to have JJ McCarthy 0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:38.239 or Shador Sanders as your starting quarterback this year, who 0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:39.600 would you go with McCarthy. 0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:43.200 Yeah? Yeah, he looks really lost. He looks like he's 0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:46.720 really really swimming. And I'm a fan of their offensive 0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:50.440 system and their head coach, and he's done really good 0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:53.240 things with quarterbacks. But I did see a study on 0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:57.520 McCarthy that his degree of difficulty of things that were 0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:00.400 being asked of him was really really high in terms 0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:02.879 of just not a lot of layup throws, you know, 0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:06.399 not a lot of play action rollouts, half field reads. 0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:08.119 You know. They kind of threw him in the deep end, 0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:12.760 probably a little bit too much. So there's a question 0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:16.119 for you, like, if you were to we saw like 0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:21.240 Darnold's career get reclimated, and Daniel Jones and Baker and 0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:23.840 some of these dudes that were high picks that didn't 0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:25.760 work out in their first off or just work took 0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.480 a long time, if you had to roll the dice 0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:34.399 on like Pennix McCarthy or like Anthony Richardson. I'm not 0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:36.840 saying for the Steelers, but maybe for Steelers. I mean, 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:37.360 if you get it for. 0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:42.640 Nothing, man, those guys. My first thaw was Anthony Richardson. 0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.680 But I'm honest enough to admit richards I'm honest enough 0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:47.480 to admit that that might just be because he's the 0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.240 one of those three that I've seen the least that 0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:51.000 we've seen the least, never on the field. He's never 0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.360 on the field the other two. Don't get me wrong, 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.360 it's not like they've had a completely of health. 0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:56.320 They're always complete. 0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:58.320 But we've seen more at least of the other two, 0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:01.360 and I haven't loved what we've seen, whereas Richardson obviously 0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:03.040 haven't loved what we've seen, but it's only been a 0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:04.160 very small sample size. 0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.240 Yeah, I may he would see him in college heart. 0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:07.840 I think he would be the one, and he's got 0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:11.080 just I think I think a higher level of natural 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:13.560 gifted talent in athleticism than the other two. 0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.440 He had the best combine performance of any quarterback in 0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:18.960 the history of the right combine, right, just in terms 0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:20.480 of numbers, and. 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.760 He's got ideal build and a lot of that stuff. 0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.600 And not that you know, Pennox is tiny. But but Richardson, 0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:28.520 I think it would. I think it would definitely be Richardson, 0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:29.640 now that I'm thinking about it. 0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.760 One of those guys might hit like Donald. Yeah, I 0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:34.720 just think people write these guys off too quick. Oh, 0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:35.560 I completely agree. 0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:38.400 Yeah, And I think, especially now, we've just seen so 0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:41.520 many examples of in the last ten to fifteen years 0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.560 of quarterbacks who were cast aside. Yeah and then yeah, 0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:46.440 not that they turned out to be all pros, but 0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.360 I mean Sam Donald, I think is the ultimate example. Yeah, 0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.360 at this one or at this point. But you've got 0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:54.960 the Ryan Tannehills and the Geno Smiths and even Baker Mayfield. 0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:56.800 Yeah, a lot that guy. 0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:00.720 We've seen a lot of those where they thought, all right, 0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.880 there's absolutely nothing there and you're able to to, you know, 0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:05.960 carve out a nice role for yourself and have some 0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:08.760 good years. And yeah, Anthony Richardson I think would be 0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:11.160 my pick of those guys. But it's a it's not 0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:12.960 the u not the most encouraging crop. 0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.840 No, Like you look at McCarthy and of course he 0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:18.400 didn't play great, but it wasn't long ago that he 0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:21.400 was a pretty high pick and missed his whole rookie 0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.320 year basically because of injury, not really his fault, and 0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:26.479 he probably will lose the starting job to Kyler. So 0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.360 if Kyler stays healthy all year, we don't know anything 0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:32.200 about him, you know, if the Vikings are looking to 0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:33.760 trade him or dump them. 0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:36.320 It's almost like a sunken cost, almost like, yeah, can you. 0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:39.080 Ever the new team is I don't know anything more 0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:43.240 about him than I did at Michigan. Really, nothing's good, sure, 0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:46.120 but why not throw those teams six six round picks 0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:47.600 those type of guys, right. 0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:49.720 And maybe we'll be in a situation next year, Matt 0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:52.160 where that's something we'll discuss as a possibility for the Steelers. 0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.200 Yeah, right or right? Because those options are always out there, 0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:58.280 they don't often hit. But like I thought about this 0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:00.760 with the Rams, like I don't love Ty Simpson and 0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:02.520 I'm not going to kill them for the Ty Simpson pick, 0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:05.560 but I think I would rather just like drafted Makai 0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.400 Lemon there and throwing a six round pick get Richardson 0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:10.880 and resigned Garoppolo and just let him sit for a 0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:12.800 year and marinate and just learn. 0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:16.720 Go to QB school TV seminars every single day, right right, and. 0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:19.719 Maybe he reclamates him, you know, gets back to what 0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:20.600 we thought he could be. 0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:24.280 It'll be very interesting to follow Ty Simpson and that 0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:27.080 pick by the Rams and some of these other young 0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.360 quarterbacks that are trying to carve out their role in 0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:32.000 the National Football League. But that's Mike Sandos QB Tiers 0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:35.160 twenty twenty six edition in The Athletic if you want 0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:38.320 to read that and check it out. Obviously there's substantial 0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.040 write ups on each one of those guys too that 0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:42.520 we didn't get into a ton of those, but always 0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:44.880 always something that we take a look at around this time. 0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:46.080 It's a great article every year. 0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:47.880 It's a great article every single year. And I just 0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:50.480 can't wait, Matt, until we can get the Pittsburgh Steelers 0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:52.760 back and having a quarterback towards the top of that list. 0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.160 I wonder what the highest Ben never was. I'm sure 0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.040 he was here one plenty, but I doubt I don't 0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:01.720 think it was ever number one, because I. 0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:03.560 Was gonna say, even some of those years where Ben 0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.360 was really lighting it up, you still had Rogers and 0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:09.720 Brady and even like Russell Wilson had a couple great 0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:11.760 years in there around around the same time as Ben. 0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.120 But I did ease Breeze. Yeah, but I guarantee you 0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:15.680 Ben was in the top five a couple times. We'll 0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:17.360 have to have to go back and check that. 0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:20.040 I bet he was Tier one more often than not, 0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.400 THO would say, and perennially. 0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:25.520 Top ten, perennially top ten without a doubt. Let's get 0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:28.120 to another break here. 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Yeah, lit bit once again, 0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:00.120 our our favorite, our favorite thing to keep an I 0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:03.240 on throughout the course of this and I wanted to 0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:04.880 to close down this second hour of the show with 0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:08.000 you get back into a conversation that we've kind of 0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.399 been bobbing and weaving around over the last few days. 0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:11.880 He keep a question for you. 0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:14.800 Okay, hit me the buckets. 0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:16.680 This time of year, they go around and they find 0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:20.000 little spots and they throw stuff. 0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.080 Yeah, I think it's like dirt and seed. 0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:24.160 And that's my question is what do you think is 0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:28.799 in the bucket? I doubt it's just seed. It must 0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:30.279 be a combination of like. 0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:36.160 Also, also, according to a intrepid producer, engineer co host 0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:39.279 mister dooit all Ed Troup, he's found the names of 0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:42.680 the guys out here in the field, crew, Will, Ryan, Colin, 0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:46.239 and Tyler. Those are the four guys big. So what 0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.120 I think that is. I think it's a combination of 0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:53.120 like seed and dirt. Yeah, because the seed obviously no, because. 0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:54.480 The probably wouldn't the next day. 0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:57.160 Yes, So I think that helps it kind of set in. 0:34:57.520 --> 0:34:59.880 It helps level off the surface, so it's not a 0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:03.120 you know, a hazard for trips, rolling an ankle or 0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:05.200 something like that. And I think it helps start the 0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:06.919 regrowth process at the same time. 0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:08.680 But they don't go through a lot of it. I mean, 0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:12.080 one handful is one handful, tap it on his foot, move. 0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:13.239 On, you know, exactly right. 0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:15.080 It's not like pour a whole bucket in this hole. 0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:21.040 We will continue to keep an eye on our guys 0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:22.160 down there on the field. 0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:22.759 Matt. 0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:24.760 A exercise that we've kind of been bobbing. 0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:26.279 On, like the steeler bucket hats too. 0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:27.839 The Steeler bucket hats are pretty cool. 0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:31.040 Starks has one. I might need to grab one wear it, 0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:32.160 but it looks like it should be so. 0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:34.000 I don't know. If I've had this conversation with you before, 0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:37.000 You've probably never seen it because it's not in situations 0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:40.319 around you. But I wear bucket hats pretty regularly. There's 0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:43.600 two times that I am there's two times in my 0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.520 life Matt that if you if you see me and 0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:48.319 I don't have a bucket hat on, ask me if 0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:49.800 I'm okay because something's wrong. 0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:51.400 And that is tailgate. 0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:56.600 No, that's a good guess. Though. Anytime I go to 0:35:56.640 --> 0:36:00.719 the beach or the pool with the girls and dude, you. 0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:02.720 Know a vacation, I think you posted something on Facebook. 0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:03.720 Always had a bucket at. 0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:05.520 When I'm on when I'm on vacation, or even if 0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:07.120 I just take the girls of the pool, I'm always 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.400 wearing a bucket hat because my face gets burnt so 0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:10.799 easily in those situations. 0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:11.919 Yeah, I definitely should. 0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:13.360 The second time is when I cut the grass, I 0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:15.440 always wear a bucket I mean there's sometimes that you 0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:18.359 know you're cutting the grass in like April or September. Yeah, 0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:20.759 and it's an overcast day. But anytime, you know, in 0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.960 like June, July, August, when it's hot out. I've got 0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:27.000 actually a bucket hat from one of Motes's golf outings 0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:29.440 that it hangs in my garage and I throw it 0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:31.680 on every time I cut the grass. So as I've 0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:33.879 gotten older and older, Matt, you know, I don't want 0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.319 dermatologists yelling at me that I'm gonna, you know, give 0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.400 myself skin cancer. So I'm trying to take care of 0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:40.319 the trying to take care of the old skin there 0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:41.000 with a bucket hat, but that. 0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:42.879 I'll be honest, that's something really neat to worry about. 0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:45.479 Like when you're a scout, they always say, get great 0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:48.520 sunglasses and find some kind of cover. Like if you're 0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:51.080 on the LSU sideline, watch your practice, you know what 0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:53.919 I mean, like hours and hours. Yeah, you're outside a lot, 0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:57.080 you know, and your eyes are your most important thing too. 0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:00.399 I mean, you get spend money on sunglasses and protect yours, you. 0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.480 Know, totally. As I've gotten older, hit the sunglasses, hit 0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:06.720 the bucket hats. Those steelers ones are are pretty Yeah, 0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:10.319 I'm sure old Max Stark's always got himself one. We'll 0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:12.359 see we'll see what we can do for every day. 0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:14.359 You probably never see me were I at I never seen. 0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:16.359 I don't think have worn one in twenty years. I 0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:17.960 wear one in the mornings, like when I take my 0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:22.000 girls to daycare because my hair's all yeah, I'm sleeping. 0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:23.840 But other than that, I don't. I don't wear it 0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:24.879 one very often either. 0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:26.200 It's like the first thing I did when I get 0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:27.360 up and put a hat on. It was next to 0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:28.480 the bed. Put a hat on this coat? 0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:30.360 Yeah, every day, yep, that's what I That's what I 0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:32.120 do now for the most part. But then then I'll 0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:33.680 come home and I'll shower and I'm you know, so 0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:35.520 I'm only wearing it for an hour at a time. 0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:38.239 Like any college picker, you see me, you have had. 0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:41.879 And I've seen some funny college pictures of you over 0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:45.240 the years. There's one with you with a snake around 0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:47.279 your neck, but that's a different story for another day. 0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.239 I get three different snakes in college, did you really? Yeah? 0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:52.040 Did you have any cool names for them? Like your bird? 0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:53.160 Did you call Larry. 0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:59.200 The ball python? Which is kind of like a starter snake. 0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:02.399 They're kind of easy and it's spent a long time. 0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.919 I forget the ball python's name. And then I had 0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:09.000 a bigger a Burmese python that was an albino that 0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:12.320 I named Shaman Shamman, you know, like when I was 0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:15.680 a shaman, I was big into Jim Morrison is like 0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:16.600 a shadow. 0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:18.600 Shum, sure you were, Matt Williamson. 0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:20.440 And then I got a smaller one, which is kind 0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:22.680 of like the nicest of them all, Like the priceiest 0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:27.440 was a red tailed boa, some kind of red something boa. 0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:30.560 It's been a long time. They're they're thinner, and like 0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:32.480 when I got him, he was like a shoelace, like 0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:35.440 he'd go through your fingers like this. And that was Daisy, 0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:37.640 like you know Daisy, you know Daisy at all? 0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:42.439 All I have to say, I gotta be honest. 0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.240 They get a little bigger and then they start scary 0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:45.879 a little bit, and you know, all I have to say, 0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.120 seat him as well as you shouldn't call it. People 0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:50.920 are strange, you know, when you're a stranger. 0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:54.880 Matt. Let's uh, jump into an exercise. We've been bobbing 0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:58.680 and weaving throughout camp here, and that is comparing different 0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:01.839 position groups this year to last year and how we 0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.439 feel about them. You know, three hundred and sixty five 0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:06.880 ish days later. What do you say we talk a 0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:10.279 little tight ends here? This is a this is gonna 0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:13.240 be an interesting one. Yeah, it is so this year's growth. 0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:16.440 I liked John U a year ago. That's what complicates matters. 0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:21.880 Pat Fryarmuth, Darnell Washington, Robert Tanyan, JJ Gallbreath still in 0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:25.800 the fold as well last year, of course, Mount Washington 0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:28.759 and Friarmuth, John new Smith, Connor Hayward. 0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:31.080 I think Friar Moove is one of those guys where 0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:32.719 you say unchanged. 0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:33.879 I think that's fair. 0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:35.400 I think we did that with Warren yesterday. 0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:37.360 We did the same with Jaalen Woren and that's fine. 0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:38.960 I think you know what he is at this point. 0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:42.279 We'd like to see more usage for him. But in 0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:44.280 terms of the player that he is, I think. 0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:46.680 Probably the exact same grade on I think feel about him. 0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:50.800 Just think one year older Washington. You have to like better. 0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:52.799 And I adored him last year, but you have to 0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:53.040 like it. 0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:56.200 I think he is. I think he is arrow pointed up. 0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:59.080 Yes see, that's to me what helps this year's crop 0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:02.120 the most. But I really liked him last year, Like 0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.000 I can't discredit, like you need to show up out 0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:08.400 of nowhere. Sure, I was pretty excited about Johnny last year. 0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:09.319 I think everybody was. 0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:14.760 Yeah, And Tanyan to me is is gon MC team. 0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:18.080 You've gotten some good reports, you know. I think he's 0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:20.719 lined up decently to be the third tight end. I 0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:23.239 don't think no Akowski can be in this conversation, I 0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:28.120 think in a little bit. Yeah, And Connor Hayward had value. 0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:30.239 I mean he was a good spec I mean you're 0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:32.919 maybe he's not. I'm not counting him as a tight 0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.279 end as much as his value to the team. I 0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:38.080 mean he was a really really good special teamer. I 0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:39.160 think he had to go with last. 0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:42.600 Year in terms of the expectations that we had for the. 0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:45.120 Group, right, what you thought of one year ago? 0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:48.000 We were all picking, you know, like I think everyone was. 0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:51.239 A thirteen personnel to be all this thirteen. 0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:54.040 Personnel, and all three of them are such drastically different 0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:57.480 tight ends. And Arthur Smith has this relationship with John 0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.080 new Smith, and he knows how to use tight ends 0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:01.080 in his offense. And he caught eighty eight balls year 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:05.439 before good His twenty twenty four stats are insane, eighty 0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:08.640 eight receptions for eight hundred and eighty four yards and 0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:09.680 eight touchdowns. 0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:11.759 Yeah, it was good after the catch and he was 0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:14.040 not a throw in on that deal. No, I think 0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:15.920 the Steelers gave him money from what I remember too, 0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:17.040 and it was a disaster. 0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:20.160 It was not good. We didn't know that then, No, no, 0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:23.120 we did not. And then you know, Robert Tanyan is 0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:24.200 a hard one to evaluate him. 0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:25.879 Yeah, I don't know what how to value him here. 0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:28.680 He hasn't really had a productive NFL year since twenty 0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:33.440 twenty two when he caught for when he had fifty 0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:37.000 three receptions for nearly five hundred yards and two touchdowns. 0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:39.560 Like he might be a success story this year. 0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:40.560 He could be, or he. 0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:42.880 Could be a guy that like makes the team and 0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:45.120 you get the week two and like he's not really 0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:47.120 helping us. He's got you know, and then you ever 0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:49.319 hear from him again. Maybe doesn't gonna make a team. 0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:51.799 You know, I don't know what to think of him. 0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:54.200 He is an interesting one. What do you think of the. 0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:56.080 Side note, It wouldn't break my heart if there was 0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:58.759 more competition for the number three tight end spot right now. 0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:00.879 That's exactly where I was going with this, Like, what 0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:04.439 how do you think that plays out? Because it's really I. 0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:07.799 Really hate to see a Washington or Friar with injury. Boy, 0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:09.560 would you be really really. 0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:12.120 Thin there, because I mean it's really just Robert Tanyan 0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:13.120 and JJ Galbreath. 0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:16.920 Yeah, I don't know. I definitely don't trust either. Gallbreath's 0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:18.799 been around enough that you'd think that he would. If 0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:20.359 he's gonna make a mark, he would have by now. 0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:22.960 Yes, we did like someone what we saw from him 0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:25.320 last year in training camping in the preseason, and obviously 0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:28.279 he's gonna have three preseason games here to continue to 0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:29.040 build upon that. 0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:31.120 He's one of those I want to see him camp 0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:32.640 next year. Guy, Yes, you know, but I don't want 0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:33.759 to on my team last year. 0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:35.719 Guy, I think you had. I mean, I think we 0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:39.080 are kidding ourselves about how excited everyone was for the 0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:42.040 addition of John new Smith at this time last year. 0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:45.080 And again, I really was excited about Washington, which panned out, 0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:47.440 and I'm not even sure he exceeded my expectations. I 0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:48.960 had really high expectations for you. 0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:51.480 You have yet You've always thought he's one of those 0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:55.400 guys who's special and gonna make an impact. And definitely 0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:56.879 last year, it's definitely last year. 0:42:56.920 --> 0:43:01.600 Yeah, yeah, which because that bump from Washington isn't enough 0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:04.959 to overcome the thoughts of the day, you know, because 0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.200 I was. I mean, yes, he bumped, but it wasn't 0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:09.080 as big a bump as some might have thought because 0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:10.400 I was so high on him to start with. 0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:14.440 Right, that's exactly right. Yeah, that's that's exactly right. So 0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:16.600 that's an interesting one. You know what though, now that. 0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:18.600 They're also not gonna play as much twelve and thirteen, 0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:19.799 they're not right. 0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:23.080 But you also, like last year, you had four guys 0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:24.160 that you could put out onto. 0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:26.120 The field and even knew they were going to make 0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:27.400 the team. I wasn't. 0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:29.520 I wasn't the biggest Connor Hayward fan in the world. 0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:31.800 I thought they did. I thought they did a little 0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:33.800 too much at times of trying to get him involved 0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:36.719 on offense. One of those situations where, like you'd like 0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:39.440 to point out where defensive coordinators are thankful when that 0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:43.040 guy is on the field in certain aspects. But again, 0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:45.640 you had four viable options. Like I'm not saying Connor 0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.600 Henry four NFL players didn't exactly right. I'm not saying 0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:51.000 he didn't belong on a roster on a field on Sundays. 0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:53.000 I mean, somebody else signed him, and it's not like 0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:54.960 he's still out there john who was still out there. 0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:57.880 Johnny was still out there, which is crazy considering what 0:43:57.920 --> 0:43:59.920 he was thought of this time of year ago. But 0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:02.279 right now it's a two horse race and a lot 0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.560 of question marks and a lot of unknown Matt And 0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:08.120 if you, like you mentioned if my tight end, I 0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:08.640 feel like. 0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:11.000 Uh, specially if an injury would happen, Like we've. 0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:14.239 Been talking about this about safeties, I think throughout the 0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:16.640 and how you would you really love to have, you know, 0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:20.360 one additional kind of playmaking safety known commodity, and that. 0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:23.480 Allaity even kind of said if there's a true free 0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:25.400 out there, you might want to call. And I know 0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:27.799 that they're not as interested in free verse strong. 0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:30.879 Sure, but but we get what I saying. I think, man, 0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:32.360 I think we can add a third tight end to 0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:35.200 that conversation. Now if if someone emerges that you can 0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:37.920 get as a as a camp cut or for a 0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:41.880 sixth round, late round pick swap something like that. I 0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:43.920 wouldn't hate seeing another tight end in the fold right here, 0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.399 because we love what we have in move and wash. 0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:49.040 But even they missed one game and what's the chance 0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:50.760 they both play seventeen plus. 0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:53.279 It's a national football league. It's very slim. It's not 0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:55.400 a matter of if. It's a matter of when everybody. 0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:58.680 Everybody picks up knocks and picks up injuries. Yeah. 0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:00.080 I got a lot of faith in time. 0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:02.399 And now, hey, maybe we'll get into maybe we'll get 0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:05.160 into preseason here and Tanya or gall breath will change 0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:06.320 our thought process. 0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:06.840 Yeah. 0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:08.280 You know what, though, I'm gonna have to start watching 0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:09.279 more tight ends as we rolled. 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:10.200 I was big a week two. 0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:12.680 We gotta we got it. We need somebody to emerge 0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:14.200 there as a quality t E three. 0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:15.960 I I feel like I need to have a better 0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:18.080 feel for Tanya and what he is now because I 0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:19.880 remember Hi in twenty twenty two, but that was a 0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:20.520 million years. 0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:23.440 Ago, exactly right, exactly, It was a long long time ago. 0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:27.520 He had a monster twenty twenty season. We had eleven touchdowns, 0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:31.680 but that was I think that's right around the time. 0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:33.680 I think that's right around the time that Homer was 0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:36.600 right in the Iliad and in the Odyssey. I'm pretty 0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:38.319 sure you did like that movie, huh? I did? 0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:39.560 I enjoy it. I like to watch it. 0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:41.759 I enjoyed it. I'm a dork, Matt Williamson. I am 0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:43.440 nothing of not a dork. One of one of the 0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:47.920 people that we met yesterday Steelers burner on on Twitter. 0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:50.080 Yeah, we met a couple of Twitter people. That was awesome. 0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:52.759 He was like, we Matt was laughing. We were dorking 0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:54.239 out about Lord of the Rings at the bar for a. 0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:55.839 Few minutes and I sort of tuned you guys out 0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:57.680 a little bit. That's when Matt that I disliked it, 0:45:57.719 --> 0:45:58.920 but you were talking over my head. 0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:01.160 That's when Matt was like, Wow, this seems pretty cool. 0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:02.960 I know what I'm doing when I get home on Tuesday, 0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:06.439 I'm gonna watch the extended editions. We have got two 0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:09.040 hours in the books, the bonus hour on the other side. 0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:11.479 You know what that means. Get those tweets in because 0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:13.560 we're gonna hit them when we return to kick off 0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:16.759 hour number three West Ruler Matt Williamson High atop Chuck 0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:19.160 Nolefield here on the campus of Saint Vincent College. It's 0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:22.239 all part of our ongoing training camp coverage Steelers Nation 0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:24.400 Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.