1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to you stuff you should know Frondhouse stuff Works 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. And Josh Clark, 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: There's Charles w Chuck Bryant, and Jerry. Jerry has a 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: personal story in this one that I teased in the 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: n s A podcast That's right, which were recorded like 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Jerry has been stuck and rescued from an elevator. Jerry, 7 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: it turns out, was stuck in an elevator, a crowded 8 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 1: elevator for four hours, crowded with the NASCAR people, as 9 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: it turns out, Yeah, NASCAR fans who were in town 10 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: for a race, I guess right. And she had to 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: get rescued through the top through the top. Yeah, which 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: we learned from this research. You can't get yourself out 13 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: through that top because it's bolted on the other side. Yeah, 14 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: you gotta have someone come. It's for them to get 15 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: you out, not for you to get yourself out. Sorry. 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: John McClean, Yeah, what you did is impossible. And there 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: weren't even bolts on his then he just like kicked 18 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: it up exactly. I think there was like a screen. Yeah, 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: this ended up being way more interesting than I thought. Well, 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: let's get to the interesting stuff. Okay, So chuck um, 21 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: we can begin to begin by talking about elevators and 22 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: who invented them. Yes, and it should come as no 23 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: surprise because if I had a dime for every time 24 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: we sat in the studio and said it started in 25 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: ancient Rome, it seems like everything started in ancient Rome 26 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: or China. Um. But in ancient Rome they did use 27 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: um you could call an elevator. It was a lift. Yeah, 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: it's not like an enclosed elevator, but it was you know, 29 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: like a platform with pulleys that they would lift things up. 30 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: Especially doing the work of an elevator, they used people 31 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: livestock water screws, which means Archimedes was involved, that's right. Yeah, 32 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: you know and of a friend in New Jersey, a 33 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: bartender who when you would ask what the score of 34 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: the game was a football game, he would just breathe 35 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: by and go lion stand Christians, nothing, no matter who 36 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: was playing. This one of those bartender jokes. You know. 37 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: He'd imagine he said it a million times and probably 38 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: got it from someone else. Just an aside. Well, but 39 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: we're talking about as far back as UM three six PC. 40 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: Archimedes was in ancient Greek, the Syracusian maybe, Yeah, he 41 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: was from Syracuse, Orange Orange, um and uh So, elevators 42 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: and the concept in the functioning elevator has been around 43 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: for a very long time. Um. It wasn't until the 44 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: nineteenth century, though, that they really started to take shape 45 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: in a way that we see them now. They were 46 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: basically just these platforms that lifted you up and you 47 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: needed an ox. I think we should talk about Louis. 48 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: Um which one is he x V man I always 49 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: get that backwards. He's not a super bowl. Yeah. King 50 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: Louis he had what some people say it was the 51 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: first modern type elevator with his flying chair. It was 52 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: on the outside of her Sailles and his mistress. It 53 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: was built for Madam the Chateau rou Um. This sounds 54 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: like a made up name. No, that was her name, 55 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: and she lived up on the third floor and would 56 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: go sit in her little box and lower herself down 57 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: right to the king's balcony. Um and they would do 58 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: the devil's business and it was very, um, very convenient 59 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: for him. He also had flying tables at dinner that 60 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: would uh lower food right at his chair like a 61 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: dumb waiter. A really dumb waiter, and he would, you know, 62 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: clap his hands, I guess, and call for the flying table, 63 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: which bring bringing bring me another guinea hen yeah, I 64 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: love guinea hens um dumb waiter, by the way, it's 65 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: a pretty insensitive term for that thing. Sure, you know. 66 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: And lazy Susan, what's out all about? That's very derogatory. 67 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: Did you know that lazy Susan was supposedly invented by 68 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: a Chinese American restaurant tour at Chinese restaurants, that's where 69 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: they're invented named Susan. Did you know that that it 70 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: was invented in a restaurant, in a Chinese restaurant, and 71 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: like San Francisco and like the fifties or forties, it 72 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: doesn't but that's what it's used for. So it's uh, 73 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: is that some revelations, Okay, I would have guessed like 74 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: like it was invented around the same time as and 75 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: by the same people as who invented like the butter 76 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: Church time frame, is what you were remarked. I thought 77 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: the Chinese restaurant kind of threw me off to the 78 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: whole thing. So at any rate, elevators have been around 79 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: for a while. What are the fift it's got clever. 80 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: He had one that used the system of ropes and pulleys, 81 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: which conceivably his flying chair was conceivably the first elevator, 82 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: the first modern elevator ever built. But it wasn't until 83 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: the nineteenth century, like I said, that they started to 84 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: really take shape. And they still had like the kind 85 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: that were used for industrial purposes like for mining or 86 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: store houses or things like that. Um, but then passenger 87 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: elevators really started to take shape. The problem was they 88 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: were extraordinarily dangerous. People died. A lot of people died 89 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: if you had a rope system, a rope system, cable system, 90 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: or tension system. Those are three names for the same thing, 91 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: which basically uses a pulley and a rope to lower 92 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: and raise a box that used stand in and your 93 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: human being. That's that kind of elevator, as opposed to 94 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: a hydraulic pistons system, which is what they used pre 95 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: industrial revolutions, which makes a lot of sense. Now I'm 96 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: sorry they used it posted industrial revolution, but pre rope 97 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: and pulley system modern elevator the kind we see now. Yeah, 98 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: but you couldn't have a very tall building because you're 99 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: your piston had to draw down, and if you wanted 100 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: to go up, you had to draw that thing down 101 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: just as far. Yeah, the piston had to be as 102 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: tall as the floor of the tallest floor of the building. 103 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: And then yeah, you had to have that pit that 104 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: was equally deep. Right, that's right, that's a deep pit 105 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: if it's a tall Building's right, it's not so we 106 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: so yes, that is a little segue that humanity took 107 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: with the piston or hydraulic elevator, and apparently they were 108 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: still um popular in mansions. And have you ever seen 109 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: the movie Lady in a Cage. Uh, it's a black 110 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: and white movie with the Jimmy Khan overacting like a 111 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: crazy as a hoodlum in like the fifties. Um, And 112 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of the famous star who's 113 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: the woman in the cage. But the cage is an 114 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: elevator that's trapped between floor in our mansion and things 115 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: go really badly for it's a good movie. Not have 116 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: to check that out. Um. But the rope and pulley system, 117 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: the reason why it didn't become the modern elevator until 118 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: the eighteen fifties is because there was no safety mechanism, 119 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: those ropes would break, and like you said, a lot 120 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: of people died because the whole thing we just go 121 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: all the way down to the of the shafts and 122 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: kill everybody on board. There's nothing to stop it, which 123 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: is uh, some people's greatest fear is being on And 124 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: we'll get to that stuff later, like what might happen? Yes, 125 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: we will teaser. But along came a guy named Elijah Otis, 126 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: whose last name you might recognize. Yeah, in eighteen fifty two, 127 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: he and his sons, uh said, you know what these 128 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: things need, They need a safety device some people don't die, 129 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: and so they created and debuted very famously the safety 130 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: Hoist the fifty four New York World's Fair when he 131 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: dramatically got in and said, cut the rope, and they 132 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: cut the rope and it fell like a foot and 133 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: then the safety device break and everyone went, wow, that's awesome. 134 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: It worked, that's right, And it's like it was attested 135 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 1: on a spring and as long as the rope was tense, 136 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: the spring would stay tripped, tripped, no untripped. And then 137 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: when the tension was released, because the rope is no 138 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: longer there, the spring will go and those the breaks 139 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: like you said, would come out, and that's basically still 140 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: in use today. A lot of elevators like this thing 141 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: that he created in eighteen fifty two. It's it's they 142 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: still build it into brand new elevators today. Yeah, some 143 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: of them they'll have uh, you know, it's a notch, 144 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: notches cut into the railing that guides the elevator. So 145 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: when those little things spring out, it just clicks into 146 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: the next notch. Some wedges go into them and they 147 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: can't go any further. And you're like, oh, man, thank 148 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: God for Elijah Otis and his sons. Right. So a 149 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: lot of people say, well, Elijah Otis invented the elevator, 150 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: the modern elevator. He did not. Actually, he invented the 151 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: safety mechanism, invented the non killing elevator that that allowed 152 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: rope and pulley systems to become ubiquitous and used in 153 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: all sorts of buildings for people to trust them. And 154 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: so he probably created the modern elevator industry is a 155 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: better way to put it. Yeah. I mean he formed 156 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: an elevator company and the Otis brothers and did pretty 157 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: well with it. But there was another Yeah, he's dead, 158 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: but his company's doing great. Yeah, I think like eight 159 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: percent of elevators or Otis elevators. But he's dead. He's 160 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: very much dead. He this was well over a hundred 161 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: and fifty years ago. There's another Otis who is contemporaneous 162 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: to Elijah Otis, but his first name was Otis Otis Toughs. Yeah, 163 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: what are the chances? Apparently pretty high? Yeah, so this 164 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: Otis Toughs fella. He actually invented what we would recognize 165 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: as the first modern elevator a couple of years before 166 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: Elijah Otis got his patent on his safety mechanism, and 167 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: it was basically a car, yeah, with automatically opening and 168 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: closing doors. There were benches, which all of the early 169 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: elevators had, which apparently we'll get too later, is why 170 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: we all face forward? Yeah, well sure, that's one reason, 171 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: and just to not be weird it's another one. But 172 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: he had a really good idea that was extraordinarily safe. 173 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: The Otis um tufted. His elevator was basically had a 174 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: hole going through the middle that was threaded, and so 175 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: his elevator acted like a nut that was going around 176 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: a very long screw that went from top to bottom. 177 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: That's what the elevator went up on. So I guess 178 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: you would turn the screw and the thing would probably 179 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: be pulled down or pulled up, and it would it would. 180 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: There's no safety issues whatsoever. But it was very impractical 181 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: because it was very expensive. And again, this screw would 182 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: have to be at least as tall as the building. 183 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: That's a that's a big yeah. So he was not 184 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: able to sell a lot of them. He did, okay, 185 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: but it wasn't widely adopted because it was just impractical. 186 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: Everybody yeah and said, hey, these Otis brothers have really 187 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: got it going on because they're safe, they're efficient, and 188 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: we can scale this out. You know, it's a scalable product. Um. 189 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: So that's the story of how the elevator came to be. Yeah, 190 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: that's the end of that one, right, all right, Well, 191 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: right after this break, we are going to talk a 192 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: little bit about safety mechanisms and why you don't faulter 193 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: your death now. All right, So we talked a little 194 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: bit about some of the safety, but let's talk a 195 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: little bit about the how an elevator works. UM. Modern 196 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: elevators use a cable system where the cable is looped 197 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: over a sheave. It's very simple actually, and I say cable, 198 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: but several cables, uh, and it is just has a 199 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: grooved rim surface the sheep does. And it's just basically 200 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: there's a counterweight on the other side. Elevator goes up, 201 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: counterweight goes down. Elevator goes down, counterweight goes up. Each 202 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: of those cables, by law, is required to be able 203 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: to hold the elevator fully loaded plus and by itself. 204 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: But there's still like four to seven eight cables usually 205 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: per elevator car. So you would have to have all 206 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: of those eight snap in order to put yourself even 207 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: in the slightest bit of danger. But that's when other 208 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: fail safes come into play to help you from dying. Right, 209 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: So you're the elevator cables are not going to snap 210 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: pretty much ever, because not only are there um all 211 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: of these extra cables, there elevator inspectors who examine the 212 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: cables to make sure there's nothing wrong with them, and 213 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: he's like, seven of these are shot, but you still 214 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: got the one, so it's fine. Um, So it's the 215 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: cable snapping is not going to be a problem. But 216 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: if if all of the cables did snap, if somebody 217 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: got up there and cut through them within a seedling torch. 218 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: Let's just say that happened you you the car, the 219 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: elevator car would basically fall about two ft because remember 220 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: we talked about that thing that was invented by Elijah 221 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: Otis that's still in use today. Well, there are some 222 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: things that are UM connected to governors. The cables that 223 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: are bolted to the top of the car and run 224 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: through the sheave, which is basically a giant pulley. They 225 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: also go through a governor speed governor, and when that 226 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: governor starts spinning really fast, which tells it that that the 227 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: cables are spinning really fast, it automatically trips those wedges 228 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: which go into the grooves into the rail that the 229 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: elevator car runs on. So it'll fall about two feet. Yeah, 230 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: and that's if it has I mean, there are different 231 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: kinds of breaking systems, but that is certainly one. Another 232 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: one is uh this kind of um break shoe basically 233 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: that goes around the rail like a roller coaster, right 234 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: and then um when the governor pulley senses that it's 235 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: spinning too fast, it trips those and they just gripped 236 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: the rail. Either way, you're gonna fall just a feet 237 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: a foot or two. Yeah, And I don't think we 238 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: said that this is it's an electric motor that spins 239 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: the sheath that pulls the cables up and down, right, 240 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: I thought that was obvious, But we should point that out. 241 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: We should. And it's a pretty elegant system actually, because 242 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: the counterweight and the elevator weigh fairly close to the 243 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: same um. So the motor that's running the sheave only 244 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: has to overcome the force of friction to basically tip 245 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: the balance between the two so that whichever one is 246 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: lower will pull the other one down. So that's how 247 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: an elevator goes up and down. So let's say the 248 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: cables have been cut, and this diabolical villain that once 249 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: you dead in a very expensive and time consuming there's 250 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: a lot easier ways to kill somebody um has also 251 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: somehow removed all of the safeties. That's what in elevator jargon, 252 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: the safety mechanism are called safeties. That's the fact of 253 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: the podcast. Uh what happens then? So you're saying, let's 254 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: you are just plummeting, you're free say free fall, But 255 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: as this article points out, it's not quite freefall. Because 256 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: there's gonna be friction because it is on on rails 257 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: and you can't be and you're not in a vacuum. No, 258 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: you're And what's more, because you're not in a vacuum, 259 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: there's air beneath you, and this elevator car that is 260 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: takes up most of the space and the shaft um 261 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: is compressing the air beneath it, so it's creating a 262 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: cushion of air. And like you said, the friction from 263 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: the rails is slowing the whole thing down. So yeah, 264 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: you're not gonna enter free fall, which is where there's 265 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: no force of gravity exerted on you at all. No, 266 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna be slowed down, but you're definitely gonna feel 267 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: like you're falling. You know, you're gonna be moving at 268 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: a of speed, a dangerous rate of speed. But at 269 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: the very bottom there are shock absorbers built in. And 270 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: it looks like, I mean, a big springy, spongy thing, 271 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: and that's basically what it is. It's a cylinder, uh 272 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: piston filled with oil usually and so that'll help you 273 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: out a little bit too, probably keep you from getting killed. Yeah, 274 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: depending on where you fall from. And there's apparently one 275 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: instance in the history of elevators, at least in America, 276 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: that um where actually happened. Yeah, where these cars have 277 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: fallen modern elevator cars have fallen from a significant height. Um. 278 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: And that was in when a Bift two bomber accidentally 279 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: ran into the another World Trade Center, the Empire State 280 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: Building and basically cut the cables, the safety breaks, everything 281 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: on two elevator cars that dropped from the seventy ninth floor. Yeah, 282 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: it's happened once, all the way down and the one 283 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: woman who was a board survived. That's seventy nine floors, 284 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: that's eight h ft. It's a long way. Yeah, and 285 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: that was in that was cushioning, right, you know, imagine 286 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: it's a little better now. Well. One of the things 287 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: that saved her though, is that she was in the 288 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: corner of the car m because the cable, the elevator 289 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: cable started to coil up beneath it as it fell 290 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: down through the through the bottom of the car, and 291 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: it was you know, she was drunk, and you know 292 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: what they say, it's a cigarette the whole drunk. Then 293 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: I think your body is that a is that a 294 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: misnomer that your body like can accept, Like an accident 295 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: more readily if you're drunk, because it doesn't stiffen up. 296 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: I've always heard that might be a wives tale. All right, 297 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about if you are 298 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: going to die or suffer a devastating injury on an elevator, 299 00:17:55,560 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: chances are no, Um, you have a point zero zero 300 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: ro zero zero zero zero one five percent chance of 301 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: dying on your average elevator ride. How did you come 302 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: up with that number? Well, how you do any average? 303 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: You multiply? Well, we don't get into the math of it. 304 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: Eight billion passenger trips on elevator per year. Seven people 305 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: die on average per year UM. And most of those 306 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: are people that work on elevators UM repairing them. So 307 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: your chances are they say, greater of getting struck and 308 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: killed by lightning, and everyone knows that's not you know, 309 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: you shouldn't worry about dying in an elevator. And it 310 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: says that escalators are ten times safer. That's not necessarily true. 311 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: That's what the elevator people say. It depends. They did 312 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: a study of senior citizens with like a median age 313 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: and I think eighty years UM, and found that there 314 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: were higher um, there were a higher number of um 315 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: accidents on escalators, but zero fatality. He's over this fourteen 316 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: year period, there's fatalities and elevator accidents. And we should say, 317 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: like there's a very very slow or slim chance of 318 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: being injured in an elevator. What did you say? Point 319 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: zero zero zero zero zero zero one five. That's a 320 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: small chance, but it does happen. Yeah, and if you 321 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: and if you do die in an elevator accident, it's 322 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: gonna be pretty gnarly. Have you did you see the 323 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: lady in China? Yeah? I mean, well, there's there's all 324 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: kinds of stories that will put the fear of God 325 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: into you. Um. This this one lady Suzanne Heart in 326 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven and at Exaci, New York, stepped onto 327 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: her elevator, the door closed on her, grabbed her and 328 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: took off up the shaft and killed her, and not 329 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: in a pleasant way. Now, that same week, a woman 330 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: at cal State Long Beach had the exact same thing 331 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: happened to her as she was stepping on the elevator. 332 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: The car just suddenly went up and took her with it. 333 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: They cut her in a half. Yeah. Wow. Um. A 334 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: nurse in China, same thing happened to her, apparently. Statistically speaking, 335 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: if you're going to be injured by a malfunctioning or 336 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: killed by a malfunctioning elevator, it's going to be while 337 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: you're getting on or off and the thing starts moving 338 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: up without you realizing that it's about to happen. Because 339 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: if it does happen, it happens pretty quick. Yeah. I 340 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: started since reading this, I started getting on and off 341 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: of elevators for very fast. Well, that's one thing that 342 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: you should do. You should also pay attention to to 343 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: your surroundings, what's going on. That's that's the problem, because 344 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: getting on and off of an elevator is a pretty 345 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: mindless thing to do. And as um Nick PLOWM. Gartner 346 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: points out, who wrote probably the greatest article anyone's ever 347 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: written on elevators in the history of humanity. It's in 348 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: the New Yorker. It's called up and then Down? And 349 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: how many articles did you read to compare it to 350 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: just this one? Dude? I would put it up against 351 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: any other article you can come up with. There's someone 352 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: out there that wrote one. This like Josh didn't even 353 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: look at mine. I would read it. If they thought 354 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: it compared anyway. He points out that not only is 355 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: it like a mindless thing getting on and off of 356 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: an elevator, we don't even think about what's going on 357 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: during the elevator ride, like we our brains are basically 358 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: like I'm on a leven, I get in, go through 359 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: these doors, and now I get out of the doors 360 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: and I'm on. Well. Yeah, and people they've done studies 361 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: like it that way. Um. Other they've thought about, hey, 362 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: maybe we should um make the elevator clear so people 363 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: can see what's going on, and that people round me said, no, 364 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't want a clear elevator. I don't want to 365 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: see those cables. I want to get in my little 366 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: box and get spit out on whatever floor I pushed 367 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: the button for and the whole um you know, music, Yeah, 368 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: music came about to um to calm people down on elevators, 369 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: to drown out the noise of the elevator mechanism working, 370 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: and just to to calm people down. Yeah, because if 371 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: you're elevator phobic, it means almost that you are claustrophobic 372 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: and you don't like being in that small space with 373 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: those people. And experts say that if you have a 374 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: big elevator fear. You just got basically your fight or 375 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: flight responses being hijacked in the situation that's truly not 376 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: dangerous because when that's when it's supposed to kick in. 377 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: But the idea of being trapped in Jerry's case with 378 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: NASCAR fans is enough to make her possibly hyperventilate and 379 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: have a panic attack. Uh if she is also claustrophobic, 380 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: which about five percent of people are, well, I think 381 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: elevator phobia and claustrophobia overlap kinda, but they're not one 382 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: and the same right now. Okay, that's what you're saying. Yeah, okay, Um, 383 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: how do you get over that? Well? I mean it 384 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: could be genetic. Some people think that phobias like that 385 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: our genetic. Others think that it comes from being trapped 386 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: in something when you were a kid and comes out 387 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 1: later when you could always go to the CBT route 388 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: and have a doctor lock you in a small box 389 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: over and over until you get used to it. I 390 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: think that's basically what they do. I think also though, um, 391 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: probably the more common therapy would be exposure therapy, where 392 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: you and your doctor go to the elevator down the 393 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: hall in the doctor's office building, and um go up 394 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: and down a couple of times. I read an l 395 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: A Times article about this um, this psychologist who treated 396 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: people with a fear of elevators, and she said that, 397 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, you start out by just looking at the 398 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: elevator and then maybe getting on for a second, then 399 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: getting right back off, you know. And she said, over 400 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: the course of probably about ten rides, by the tenth one, 401 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: it's gone. Yeah. So it's it's true. Table it's very treatable, 402 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: but it's it's I read another article in the New 403 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: York Times about this woman who said, I have a 404 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: phobia of elevators. That's so bad, I don't even want 405 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: to confront it, Like I don't want to get over it. 406 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: That's too much of a hill to climb to get 407 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: to the other side, even if it just took ten 408 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: elevator rides, Like that's just too much. And people who 409 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: have elevator phobia's lives are altered because of their fear 410 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: of elevators, Like there's lots of places they can't work. Um, 411 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: even if you work on the second floor of the building, 412 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: if the buildings lock and the doors and to the 413 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: stairs locked behind you, like us Yeah, then it doesn't 414 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: matter if you work on the second floor. You could 415 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: only conceivably work on the first floor. Yeah. We don't 416 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: have the option of taking the stairs here because I've 417 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: made that mistake taking a private call on the stairwell 418 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: and you get locked out, you gotta walk all the 419 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: way down. Yeah. And some people, I imagine too, have 420 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: fear of heights. Um. And one of my friends moms 421 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: couldn't stay above like the third floor of a hotel 422 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,479 Speaker 1: even really yeah, I mean even when the blinds closed 423 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: and everything. She just she knew she was high up 424 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: and that freaked her out. For that reason, I can't 425 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: stand glass outdoor elevators. Yeah, we forgot we shot a scene. 426 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: Oh that was not fun. Was that the peach tree 427 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: or the inside the Marriott here? But the Marriott here 428 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: is a very cool interior glass elevator that goes up 429 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: really high. And um, yeah, I remember. You did a 430 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: good job though. Well, yeah, it was fine on that. 431 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: It was that sky car at Stone Mountain that got me. 432 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: Oh did the sky bucket thing? Yeah, it just takes 433 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: you from one side of the park to the other. Yeah. Yeah, 434 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: the thing that you split off of No, it's enclosed oh, 435 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: the one I rode was just like a ski lift. Basically, 436 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: didn't we shoot it stone one? Oh no, no, no, okay, 437 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. I thought you're talking 438 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: about six flags the sky bucket. I probably wouldn't like 439 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: that either. Yeah, you're talking about the the tram that 440 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: takes you to the top of some mountain. It is 441 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: fully enclosed. Yes, and remember there's like a poll going 442 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: through the middle that I was holding onto and just 443 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: staring at the floor. Well, that's one of those things 444 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: where if they have to stop it, it like swings 445 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: back and forth and you're reminded, I'm hanging from a 446 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: cable on a big, heavy car. Okay, So we'll talk 447 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: about some elevator etiquette tips. We're gonna help you be 448 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: a better human being. Apparently all right after these messages. 449 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: Hey Chuck, Hey dude, we love squares space, don't we. Yeah, 450 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: we sure do. They are the go to tool for 451 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: building online websites, which is the only place your website 452 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: should be. That's a good point. 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Public space, which he found that people like 481 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: to be twelve ft apart from one another, social space 482 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: four ft, personal space a foot and a half, and 483 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: then what he calls intimate space, which is um right 484 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: up on somebody. Yeah. The other guy is a dude 485 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: named John J. Frewan, and he wrote something in nineteen 486 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: seventy one called the Pedestrian Planning and Design, uh just 487 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: called Pedestrian Planning and Design. It is the go to 488 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: handbook for if you want to build a subway or 489 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: if you want to build an elevator car or anything 490 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: where you're squashing people together. That is still the go 491 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: to for how many how many jerks can we fit 492 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: in this box? Right? So that was comfortably and safely right, 493 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: That was all taking in consideration and all of those things, 494 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: what those are not taking the consideration on our elevator 495 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: cars like they they basically go way beyond that foot 496 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: and a half of personal space. Well, yeah, it goes 497 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: by weight only, right, Yeah, and if if it's a 498 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: busy time, all of a sudden, you can find yourself 499 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: with like an intimate space with all these other people 500 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: around you in a tiny little box. So let's talk 501 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: etiquette when you do find yourself in a situation like that. 502 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: One really good way to prevent being in a crowded 503 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: elevator car and from stopping people in an elevator car 504 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: unnecessarily is following what's called the two flight rule, which 505 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: we can't do here at our office. No, we're an exception. 506 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: And the reason why we're in exceptions because if we 507 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: tried to take the stairs, the doors locked behind you 508 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: and you're trapped in the stairwell and you have to 509 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: go back down to the ground floor, which is the 510 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: one door that's unlocked. Right, that's right. Why do I 511 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: feel like we're helping a stalker? Like the schematics of 512 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: the building, They're like, oh, that's an interesting in detail. 513 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: You will regret sharing that. Do we have stockers, No, 514 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: they're all trapped in the stairwell. That's who those people are. 515 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: The two flight rule is basically says that if you 516 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: are going one to two flights up. Take the stairs 517 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: instead of the elevator keeps people from having to wait. Yeah, 518 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: well you get off a distance that you could have 519 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: conceivably walked, and should for your own health walk. Another rule, Uh, 520 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: they always touchy. Do you hold the door for someone 521 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: or not? Um? I always think of curb your enthusiasm. 522 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: Did you ever see that one when Larry uh feigned 523 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: as if he was going to hold the door open 524 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: and wouldn't do it. I didn't see that one. I 525 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: would have assumed that that topic would have covered like 526 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: six consecutive episodes. Now he very obviously was like, oh, 527 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: let me reach for this when and then of course 528 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: he ends up on the same floor in the same 529 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: waiting room as the girl who didn't hold the door 530 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: for and I think she does it to him later, 531 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: of course, in true TV fashion. But um, the author 532 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: of the thing that we read said, if if you're 533 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: on the elevator by yourself, you should always hold the 534 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: door open for someone. But if there are a bunch 535 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: of people on there, you might want to just not 536 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: do it and say, hey, get the next one. Yeah, 537 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: because you don't have time to take a straw pole 538 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: to see what everybody on the elevator, thinks, And you're 539 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: not necessarily in charge of everybody, so you don't get 540 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: to decide if the door stays open. So the decision 541 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: is you can't decide doors are closing on their own exactly. 542 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: If it's a full elevator, then yeah, t s yeah. 543 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: And it depends on the amount of elevators. Like we 544 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: have four elevator banks in our office, and I feel like, yeah, 545 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, there's gonna be another one 546 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: coming very soon. Yeah, So it's not a big deal, 547 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: And I don't expect anyone to hold the elevator for me. 548 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: In fact, I will say, go, don't like, reach your 549 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: hand out and stop the elevators for me, which apparently 550 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: is very dangerous. Um, not necessarily reaching your hand out, 551 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: but jumping on an elevator with the doors closing. That's 552 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: when it's that's you don't want to do that. I 553 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: do that all the time. You're not. You do it, 554 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: but do it at your own peril at my point 555 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: zero zero zero zero zero zero one five risk. Yeah. Um, 556 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: here's something I didn't know, chuck. Um. There's you're supposed 557 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: to stand in a single file line, no matter how 558 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: many elevators there are that that I think that's true. Like, 559 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: if you work in the Empire State building, you're going 560 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: to get huge lines. But my most office buildings I 561 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: don't think have lines. Depending on the size of the 562 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: office building, they might have. Uh this type of elevator 563 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: call system where you go up to a little keypad 564 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: or something, the dispatch system. Yeah, you type in what 565 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: floor you're going to, and the computer tells you what 566 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: elevator to wait for. You can only take one elevator, 567 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: but the elevator is going straight to your floor and 568 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: it just waits until enough people to fill it up 569 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: come along, and then that sends you on your merry way. 570 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: If you don't have that and you do find a line, 571 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: supposedly you're supposed to stand in single line. Did not 572 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: know that, Well, it may not be true. Again, I 573 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 1: think if you have that many people in your building 574 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: to warrant a line, then yeah. But our I mean 575 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: ours is pretty big and there's never like a big 576 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: crowd of people. Um, but you bring up an important 577 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: point here as far as the stops go, and um, 578 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: there is a term called elevator ing, which I've never heard, 579 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: and that is the discipline of designing an elevator to 580 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: work efficiently basically, and one of the things that they 581 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: have to look for is uh probable stops and they 582 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: have actually calculated this. Um. A guy his last name 583 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: is Fortune, has a probable stop table and says that 584 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: if there are ten people in an elevator that serves 585 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: ten floors, uh, it is going to you're gonna make 586 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: six and a half stops on average. That half stuff 587 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: is tricky. Ye, ten people on thirty floors nine and 588 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: a half stops. Um, So it's just interesting to think about, 589 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 1: Like you can avoid all of that with either the 590 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: the dispatch system or uh, like the World Trade Center 591 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: had the sky lobby where you could take an express 592 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: up to like the thirty floor, get off there and 593 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: then get on the local and just go to whatever 594 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 1: before you want to. And then that same guy, um 595 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: Mr Fortune, who's an elevator consultant, one of the foremost 596 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: ones I gather from that Nick plown Garden article. He 597 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: also told plown Garden that there's um you have to 598 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: factor in what's called weight time, which basically in an 599 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: American office building, supposedly the interval, which is the total 600 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: length of time it takes for a single car to 601 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 1: go all the way up and all the way down, 602 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: divided by the number of cars. Then you have your 603 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 1: way time that should be no more than thirty seconds, 604 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: with the actual weight time being about si that are 605 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: eighteen seconds. So in an American office building, you should 606 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: not have to wait for longer than eighteen seconds for 607 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: an elevator. Yeah, and he's carried it one step further, 608 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: which is um you want your handling capacity of the building. 609 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: That is the amount of passengers the percentage of passengers 610 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: of the building's population that you carry in five minutes, 611 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: and he's just thirteen percent is a pretty good target. Yeah, 612 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: you want to hit that thirteen percent range. And in general, 613 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: in England people are over elevateord and in places like 614 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: India and China they are under elevator. Not enough elevators, yep. 615 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,959 Speaker 1: But in England they're allows you with them and they're 616 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: just carrying one person at a time. Apparently people have 617 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: like two three elevators in their house. Uh, Chuck, I 618 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: have one for you. Regarding etiquette, Okay, if you are 619 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: in an elevator and a man and a woman are 620 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: are exiting the elevator at the same time. Uh, should 621 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: the man let the woman go first? And where are we? 622 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: You are at a guar concert um and it's just 623 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: the two of us. I am always one to say 624 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: ladies first, But I have seen Miss Manners says in 625 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: a corporate environment, you're you should treat everyone equal and 626 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: not do things like ladies first and hold the door 627 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: open for a lady. And I think the Manners mentor, 628 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 1: Merrily McKee, would like us to correct. She's not Miss 629 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: Manners know, is that someone else? Yeah, she's the Manner's mentor, 630 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: But she says, if you're in an office environment, people 631 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: are supposed to be equal, so you don't have to 632 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: let ladies go first. I say, I'm a Southern gentleman, 633 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: so I do that kind of thing. If it's a 634 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: crowded elevator, it's every person for themselves, like you should 635 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: just get off. If you're at the front, you know, 636 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: standing in front of the door, it just makes more sense. 637 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: It can easily get very clumsy and confusing and just 638 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: awkward if you're like, oh well, make it out of 639 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: the way, you go first. You know, that's not in 640 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: the lady who probably like, who's this create that wants 641 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: to get behind me exactly. Uh. And also, if you're 642 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: on a crowded elevator and you are in front of 643 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: the doors, the proper procedure is to step off and 644 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: let people out, um, instead of just trying to wedge 645 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: yourself into somebody's groin. You know, just like step off, 646 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: the same as if you're on a subway. You can 647 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: get right back on. Don't worry. But I see a 648 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: lot of people not doing that. I wonder why I don't. 649 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: I guess they're lazy jerks. You like, Yeah, you you 650 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: step off. If you're the closest of the door, you 651 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: step off and you leave your hand there, your arm 652 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 1: then get chopped off. Yeah basically yeah, I mean you're 653 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: but you're leaving it. You're keeping it from closing on 654 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: the people exiting, but you're also keeping closing from closing 655 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 1: on you. So you can get back on if you're 656 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: gonna lose your place, you know, you're a martyr. Yeah. 657 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: And then when you step back on, as per the 658 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 1: rules of social norms, according to these people who study it, 659 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: everyone just sort of files into the proper place. If 660 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: it's just two of you, you're probably should stand you know, well, 661 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: apart from each other. There's four of you, you're probably 662 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: gonna migrate to the corners, and then if it gets 663 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: super full, you're gonna be touching some folks. Yeah, but 664 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: normally up till five it follows the face of a die. Yeah, yeah, 665 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yeah, and you face forward and again 666 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: that's supposedly because there used to be benches in the 667 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: backs of elevators. It would be so weird if someone 668 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: just got on and just walk straight to the back 669 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: of the elevator and stood there. Yeah, like that would 670 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: freak me out. I would get off that elevator. What 671 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: if they just turned around or facing you? No, no, no no, 672 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: if they just got on and just walk straight and 673 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: just face the back wall, I'd be off of that 674 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 1: thing so fast because they got something up their sleeve 675 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: that I don't want to be a part of. But 676 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,439 Speaker 1: what if they what if you were towards the back 677 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 1: of the elevator facing front, somebody got on and stayed 678 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: by the doors but just turned around it's facing you. 679 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: That's equally is creepy. And then there between you and 680 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: the door, because I wouldn't even know how to get 681 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: out of there safely, I'd probably bowl the dude over 682 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: and then he'd be like, what's your problem? You just 683 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 1: start crying? What about your phone? Oh? Well, I mean 684 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: this is a personal thing, I guess, but I think 685 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: you should never talk on the phone when you're several 686 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: feet from a stranger. Barely anybody gets coverage on an 687 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: elevator anyway. They just stand there on the phone the 688 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: whole time. They did we get cut off. Hello, hold on, 689 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm on an elevator. You say, I'll call you back. 690 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 1: I'm on an elevator. Yeah. I wouldn't want to have 691 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: my conversations in front of people either. Sure, not that 692 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: they're super private, but that's just that's my biz. Sure, 693 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 1: do you got anything else? Uh? No, I do. Um. 694 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: If you've seen internet videos about did you see the 695 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 1: one on the the train in Asia where people were 696 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: just packing themselves on and like pushing people on like sardines. 697 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: Apparently in Asia there is a much much higher tolerance 698 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: for personal space when it comes to subways, elevators, and 699 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: getting around. Americans have many more hang ups. Well, we 700 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: have a huge nation that we've spread out through and 701 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: have enormous pockets of unpopulated areas. We like our land 702 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: and our fences, good fences make good neighbors. That's it. 703 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: I got nothing else. It's elevators pretty much. Seriously, go 704 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: read up and then down by Nick plown Gartner in 705 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: the New Yorker. It's awesome. Um, and uh, you know 706 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: I did have one more thing. Actually, what he makes 707 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: an awesome point in there that if it wasn't for elevators, 708 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: the world as we know it would not even be 709 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: the same because verticality is what has allowed us to 710 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: uh grow as people. Um, because if it wasn't for verticality, 711 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: we could only expand outward, and there's only so much 712 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: outward expansion you can do. So elevators themselves have shaped 713 00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: the way mankind has has populated this world. Pretty interesting. 714 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: It is interesting. Never thought about it before that way. 715 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: It's an interesting article through and through, best by far 716 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: article ever written on elevators. But we have plenty of 717 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: articles on elevators on the site how Stuff Works. You 718 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: can type elevators into the search bar there and they'll 719 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: bring up a bunch of different articles. You can read those. 720 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: And uh, since I said search bar, it's time for 721 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: a listener mail. I'm gonna call this you guys may 722 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: have legitimately saved our son's life. Wow, right, Hey, guys, 723 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: want to say thank you and tell you that it's 724 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 1: quite possible that your show on allergies saved our son's life. 725 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: Yesterday and this just came in, so this was very recent. Henry, 726 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: our three year old, was playing outside and was stung 727 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: by b you near the wrist on his left arm. 728 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: I didn't think anything of it because he's been stung 729 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: before and not appeared to be allergic with no reaction. 730 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: So I made sure the stinger was out and handed 731 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: him over to my husband Uh to calm him down. Thankfully, 732 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: my husband, Dustin, remember the allergy podcast you did and 733 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: how you said sometimes it takes the first exposure for 734 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,240 Speaker 1: the body to decide if it's response to a specific allergen. 735 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: So Dustin kept a close eye on Henry and noticed 736 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,280 Speaker 1: that the left side of his face started to swell 737 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: within minutes I know. We rushed into the emergency clinic, 738 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 1: where he received a shot of epinephrin, the dose of anahistamine, 739 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: and prescriptions for both immunosuppressants and an EpiPen. He is 740 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: doing fine, back to his normal wild self, thanks to 741 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: the information, your podcast and Dustin's quick thinking. The first 742 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: thing Dustin said to me after leaving the clinic was 743 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 1: you realized stuff you should know saved his life. Right, 744 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,919 Speaker 1: that's so cool. I know, thank you for everything you do. Guys. 745 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,959 Speaker 1: We always love the podcast, and now I have even 746 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: more reason to appreciate it. That is from the Becks, Dustin, 747 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: Lindsay Silas, and Henry thanks Beck's permission to read it. 748 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,439 Speaker 1: And she asked the husband and he was like, hey, yeah, 749 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 1: people need to get the word out on this stuff. Yeah, 750 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: what's your kid after they get stung by beats? Yeah, 751 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: don't just laugh at them. Yeah, I would say we 752 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily save anyone's life. That would be more of 753 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,919 Speaker 1: the parents, Oh of course, and the medical um emergency people. Yeah, 754 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: but we're glad that knowledge could kind of ease that 755 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: inch it along. Yeah. So, if we've done anything that 756 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 1: even remotely smacks of saving a life, we always love 757 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: hearing about that. Believe it or not, it's happen more 758 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: than once. Um. You can tweet to us at s 759 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: Y s K podcast. You can join us on Facebook 760 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: dot com slash stuff you should Know. You can send 761 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: us an email to Stuff Podcast at how stuff works 762 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: dot com and as always, joined us at our home 763 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: on the Web. Stuff you Should Know dot com For 764 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: more on this and thousands of other topics. Is It 765 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: How Stuff Works dot com