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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast is in iTunes. Sugar Doledge.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the League Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansens, and I'm joined by a

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Speaker 1: room filled the heroes, Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, and Gregg

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Speaker 1: Rose a doll. What up, boys, Dan, you're looking Dan

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Speaker 1: got a haircut? You're looking sharp now as sharp as you, buddy,

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what. First of all, thank you

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Speaker 1: to both West and Mark helping me move this weekend.

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Speaker 1: As I Greg was against this. Greg thought that I

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Speaker 1: should have to. You're an adult, you can just get

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Speaker 1: You're getting movers anyway, so why not just have them

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Speaker 1: do it all in one trip. It was it was

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Speaker 1: about money and saving and just being with my friends

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Speaker 1: and you guys, thank you very much for that. It's

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Speaker 1: a nice place too. I was jealous. West is one

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Speaker 1: off day of the week. He's trying to find environment

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Speaker 1: studies moving by. I mean there will be a day

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Speaker 1: you no longer have your friends move for, so why

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Speaker 1: not just fast forward and make that day now. I'm

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Speaker 1: not ready for that yet. He's got a baby on

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Speaker 1: the way. You've got to look at the financial angle

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Speaker 1: to this. West and I also midway through and it

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Speaker 1: was an easy move. We did what a couple of cars.

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Speaker 1: West Nike struck up the plan to maybe, if this

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Speaker 1: whole thing goes south, open up a ad hoc moving

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Speaker 1: company because we enjoyed the experience. It was fun. West

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Speaker 1: and sas movers. Well, I like that. I don't like

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Speaker 1: That's the West and seess. I'm not going to be

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Speaker 1: involved if I'm not in the title. You're the end.

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Speaker 1: What do you think you've gotta be looking for jobs

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Speaker 1: at this rate? Um? You buried the lead? What woke

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Speaker 1: up to an earthquake this morning? Yeah? Are you okay?

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Speaker 1: First California earthquake a four point four on the Richter scale.

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, take us through your thoughts. It's it's gonna

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Speaker 1: sound odd. It's it's oddly. Call me why it's there's

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Speaker 1: a fatalism to it. There's nothing you can do. You

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Speaker 1: wake up, you get shaken in your bed, and for

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Speaker 1: seven seconds, your first five seconds, you were asleep, so

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Speaker 1: it doesn't even register what's going on, and then the

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Speaker 1: last couple of seconds you just say, there's nothing I

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Speaker 1: can do about it. Nature is gonna have its way

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Speaker 1: with me now, I think, I think honestly though, I

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Speaker 1: think Damage I put it best this morning with a

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Speaker 1: tweet that he had, and I don't think this is

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Speaker 1: a shot at us. This is your first earthquake. You

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Speaker 1: deserve to be able to share it. I had an

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Speaker 1: earthquake on Tybee actually that was very similar, about a

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Speaker 1: four or something magnitude. Wow, Damage, I tweeted, And now

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Speaker 1: a day's worth of quake anecdotes. Positioning each narrator is

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Speaker 1: a mix of Indiana Jones and a war correspondent. I'm

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Speaker 1: calling in sick dangerously close. There was that's great. Um.

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Speaker 1: By the way, before we get into the show properly,

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Speaker 1: do you have anything to say West to me? Maybe

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Speaker 1: an apology for what happened on Friday? Oh yes, branding

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Speaker 1: me unethical and a liar. That was not my intention.

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Speaker 1: But apparently someone went back and watched the film and

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Speaker 1: you were proven right and I was wrong. In the

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Speaker 1: sandwich bets, West thought that I took the Arthur Jones

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Speaker 1: Bet I did not so and and we'll go over

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Speaker 1: it maybe a little later in the show where we're

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Speaker 1: at the final tally with the sandwiches. But should I

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Speaker 1: apologize like an athlete. Yeah, I do it. I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: if you were offended. Alright, big show we're gonna get into.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go some of our favorite under the radar

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Speaker 1: signings of the free agency period. We're gonna talk about that, um.

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Speaker 1: But before we do that, we have a lot of

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Speaker 1: news as as we know the weekend. Things obviously are

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Speaker 1: What is your take on this? It's really fast and

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Speaker 1: furious this news on. It's a deluge of of NFL headlines.

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Speaker 1: just because we don't want you to be so disoriented.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. We start in Green Bay, where the

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Speaker 1: Packers have signed former Chicago Bears defensive end Julius Peppers

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Speaker 1: to a big deal. Uh it's worth a maximum of

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Speaker 1: according to Ian rappaport a gentleman, Is this the type

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Speaker 1: Woodson was twenty six seven years old. This is this

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Speaker 1: is really a move we never see the Packers make

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Speaker 1: just can this guy give us some juice. It's basically

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Speaker 1: more athletic guys. I mean, but Peppers, I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: a great, great move, but it would have been nice

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Speaker 1: or five years I thought it was gonna be in

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Speaker 1: moving on, we mentioned Peyton Manning and the Broncos. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders. That seems a litt the meaning to call

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Speaker 1: He has a new teammate. His name is Emmanuel Sanders.

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Speaker 1: So where does where do you see Sanders and Welker

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Speaker 1: He doesn't care. It's talk about all about the money,

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Speaker 1: all about the money. He was in Seattle on Sunday,

426
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Speaker 1: left without a contract. He has another visit scheduled, according

427
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Speaker 1: to Ian Rappaport, with the Dallas Cowboys on Tuesday, which

428
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Speaker 1: actually could end up being a decent fit, though I

429
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 1: don't know if they'll have the money again to pay

430
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Speaker 1: Jared Allen and make him love football enough to keep playing.

431
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: What do we got? What do we think about this?

432
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 1: He's got it. He's one of the most unlucky guys

433
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: in free agency because if DeMarcus Ware doesn't get cut

434
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: and doesn't sign with the Broncos, Alan somehow gets that

435
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 1: same contract from Denver three years, thirty million. I don't

436
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: know if he's gonna get much more than half than that.

437
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 1: There's always a veteran or two like this every year

438
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: that doesn't like the offers that they're seeing and ends

439
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: up hanging out on the free agent market forever. Last

440
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: year was Richard Seymour. He never wound up playing, alright,

441
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: So Dallas needs to dump to Marcus Ware because he's

442
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: too expensive of a pass rusher. And now you're hosting

443
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: Jared Allen, who tells you upfront, I want a mountain

444
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: the money or I'm not touching the field for you.

445
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: So that's what you make A really good point. I'm

446
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: curious if these teams are buying this bluff, this retirement bluff,

447
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: because you can imagine Seattle did the same thing. Well,

448
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: last year they had these pass rushers, uh, Cliff averyone,

449
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: Michael Bennett that they got kind of on the discount.

450
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they offered a similar type

451
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Speaker 1: deal to Jared Allen. Now, maybe the Cowboys will do

452
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: the same thing, like, hey, we can't give you a

453
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Speaker 1: lot of money, but do you want to play football

454
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: next year? We we like you. Um, I mean one

455
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: thing in his defense, he's only he's only thirty one.

456
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: He's turning thirty two soon. He had eleven and a

457
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: half sacks last year. He's averaged thirteen sacks per season

458
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: over ten years. Um, he seems I know people said

459
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: he's in a little bit of decline, but this guy

460
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: can still play and he could help like a contender.

461
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: Somebody would would give him money, you would think, especially

462
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Speaker 1: with all his money flying around. Maybe I'll get back

463
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Speaker 1: on his agents good side. If Peppers is worth eight

464
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Speaker 1: and have allion this year, you could say Alan is

465
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: worth ten this year. You're on the bed side of

466
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: John Allen's anger. Really he does not like me. Yeah,

467
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: he We've gotten some angry responses to our top one,

468
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: including uh, Jared Allen's agent did not like our original

469
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: ranking of of Alan, which I believe was in the

470
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:24,959
Speaker 1: something like that. Over time, I believe we've been proven

471
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Speaker 1: to be in alignment with many of the NFL teams

472
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: out there. Only five players out of our top fifty

473
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: were still available as of Saturday night. Jared Allen is

474
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: one of those players. If you're Allen, do you I

475
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: don't know that I'm thinking about someone else, not myself,

476
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: but wouldn't you rather if you're at the end of

477
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Speaker 1: your career and you've made a ton of money already,

478
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: you can still get paid well, you want to say,

479
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: He's always talked about wanting to be on a winner,

480
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: so you're gonna potentially why even take the flight to

481
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Speaker 1: Dallas a defense that is a rebuilding project with an

482
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Speaker 1: aging quarterback in a team that's simply can't get out

483
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: of an eight and eight hole. Or you could go

484
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: to Seattle and be another one of these plug and

485
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: play defensive line got to play the game right, drive

486
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 1: up the price. I like to drive up the price thing,

487
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: but his Dallas a team that's driving up the price

488
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: and you know athletes competitive, He probably sees himself as

489
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: the answer to Dallas's defensive problems. He's bad that other

490
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: guys are getting this money and he's not. He doesn't

491
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Speaker 1: understan you think Denver really was about to pay him

492
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: that same it's been and I saw that. I didn't

493
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: know if they were saying that as a by the way,

494
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: here's a nice thing we're gonna do for Jared Allen

495
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: as we don't sign him. Maybe it could be true.

496
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: That's possible, and maybe they're trying. Maybe they owe Alan's

497
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: agent a favor too, although this apparently is the Broncos

498
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: mode here is they just decide what contract they're going

499
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: to give out and then figure out the player later.

500
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: Because supposedly Dominique Rodgers Grimarty passed up the contract that

501
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: I keep to leave eventually took, which means that Roger's

502
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: Grimarty's agent should be fired because he just caught his

503
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: clients millions one of us in this room. Um alright,

504
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: And finally, some troubling news out of Indianapolis, where Colts

505
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: owner Jim Ursay was arrested on suspicion of intoxicated driving.

506
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: Uh late last night, late Sunday night, police said they

507
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: found multiple prescription drugs in the owner's car. Um. Obviously

508
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: this is a difficult situation for the culture, says, a

509
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: major part of their think tank when it comes to

510
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: UH importing free agents and building the roster. And obviously

511
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: he's a huge figure in the community. And now we

512
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: don't know what what's next. I mean, the guy, you

513
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: know what happens now, that's too early to say, and

514
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: it's too early to really speculate if the league could

515
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: get involved, um, which they did. I think it was

516
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: a few years back with the Lions president Tom Luan

517
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: when he had an off the field incidents. So kind

518
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: of like all these things, it's gonna take some time

519
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,959
Speaker 1: to play out or say. Did thank his family as friends,

520
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: UH colleagues for a message of support, thoughts and prayers.

521
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: Impossible to tell you how much this means, he wrote. Um,

522
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: So it's a story. I think that's gonna stay in

523
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: the news, but it's it's an important one for the

524
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: colts alright. Moving on, alright, So gentlemen, um free agency.

525
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: This is now the seventh day of free agency. Were

526
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: you aware of that? Yes? Yes, because because we do

527
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: what we learned on day six of free agency. That's

528
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: how I knew it was day six because I wrote

529
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: it yesterday and six days when we're supposed to rest

530
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: on the seventh day, not at the around the league factory. Right,

531
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,959
Speaker 1: well we we we all had some rest over the weekend.

532
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: I didn't let West rest Saturday. Yeah, you made a move, guy,

533
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: I applied him with UM hops fair alright, um alright.

534
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: So anyway, so yes, we are obviously on top of

535
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 1: all the signings. I want to throw it to you, gentlemen,

536
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: under the radar signings. Under the radar signings, we know

537
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: the big ones. Everyone gets all amped up about your

538
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: Gyris Jaris bird rus bired you know, Darrell Reevis, people

539
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: of that nature. But what a bird guy has to

540
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: give us some royalty. It's catching on though. It was

541
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: like in a high level executive meeting, people started doing

542
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: this fired that type of joke. It's I've been getting

543
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: texts and tweets from people that I don't even talk

544
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: to on a regular basis telling me that the pronunciation

545
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: of Jared's bird is now their favorite part of the podcast.

546
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a good thing. It's something

547
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: we had nothing to do with producing so anyway, So

548
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: I figured, why don't we go around the room and

549
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: each of us give a kind of under the radar

550
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: free agent signing that will pay big dividends to the

551
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: team that acquired them. And I will start with the

552
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: mad scientist, the mailman, Chris Wesley. I'm gonna start with

553
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: a guy whom Greg described as a one man solution

554
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: to your run defense problems. The Atlanta Falcon signed Paul

555
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: Solia and nose tackle Mike Nolan, expected to be moving

556
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: to more of a three or four defense this year.

557
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: I've always thought the Falcons don't have a backbone on defense.

558
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: That's the problem. You can run right down their throats

559
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: whenever you want. They can't stiffen up and stop you

560
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: in key situations, as we saw with Kaepernick and Frank

561
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: Gore two years ago in the NFC Championship game. You

562
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: bring in Paul SOLIAI there's your anchor in the middle.

563
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: Now you've got a backbone. You Tyson Jackson another good

564
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: run defender. Things are turning around there. Maybe maybe they

565
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: still need pass rushers. They needed it so much. I

566
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: actually was rewatching a Dolphins game from earlier in the

567
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: year and There's a play where SOULI I nimbly steps

568
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: through like two lineman who he almost had uses like

569
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: invisible power. They almost don't even see him on one

570
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: foot and like leaps entirely to his left and just

571
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: wraps a runner and takes him to the ground. Now,

572
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, well, you don't see it's it

573
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: was like, wait, this guy completely looks different than the

574
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: other big men around him like this, and that Falcons

575
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: had nothing. No one liked that on their defensive line

576
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: last year. There's something to be said for getting guys

577
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: that there aren't many of around the league. There aren't

578
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: really those guys anymore, and sometimes they last. Awhile Ted

579
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: Washington lasted forever. Every year. That's the end of Washington.

580
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: He is now thirty eight, and it seems to be

581
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: angrier than any human ever. And but there he was

582
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: just still blocking people like crazy Mark Sessler. I'm gonna

583
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: go I think wherever he signed, I would have picked

584
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: Walter Thurman and he's I think it's It's a really

585
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: good uh signing by the Giants, who seemed to be

586
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: pretty committed to revamp being a secondary that's really struggled

587
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: last season, and everyone says, Oh, any one of these

588
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, you could pull them out and they'd start

589
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: anywhere in the league. Well, we're gonna find out. Now.

590
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: I think that he is a guy that uh, you know,

591
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: we talked him with the Super Bowl. He said over

592
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: and over, I want a bigger role, but more than that.

593
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: West and I were in the outskirts of Jersey and

594
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: Jersey City and it was a dark, blustery night, and well,

595
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: we were concerned. We got in a cab that we

596
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: later determined to be a sham cab. Where we got

597
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: it was what was what's the other word you used

598
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: for it? We got a gypsy cab. There's another livery

599
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: d I think a livery is legitimate to some degree. Right,

600
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: this guy had not he had no identification. Part wasn't

601
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: the hotel flagged him down for it? Obviously he knew

602
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: you guys are tourists or out of town er, so

603
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: they were like, let's take it, and then we wanted

604
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: to flee Jersey City and meeting, which makes me doubt

605
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: the story he told us now that I think about it,

606
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: but he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, you guys are here

607
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: to report on the Super Bowl. He's like the guy

608
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: that just go He's the guy that just got in

609
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: before you. He was a Seattle Seahawk, and we're like

610
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: throwing out names left and right. I couldn't remember it.

611
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: Finally we hit on Walter Thurman. Potentially, He's like, oh yeah,

612
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: like it was Walter Thurman had taken by himself into

613
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: New York just to see the sights and learn about

614
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: the history of the city. So not only a ascending cornerback,

615
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: but a historians and now listen, he's becoming a giant.

616
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: He fell in love with poor Man's alter on Verner.

617
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: So you're your source really was weeks ahead on this

618
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: Thurman deal. Months. You should have used this information in

619
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: some way that Thurman really dug the whole Midtown Well.

620
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: I talked to him and I said, so, I just

621
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: want to let you know, and then this went the

622
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: wrong way. We got in the cab right after you,

623
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: and he looked at me like, that's really creepy that

624
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: you know I was in a cab and the interview

625
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: quickly fell to pieces after them. I think that it's

626
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: a good sign though, means he's intellectually curious. He's gotta

627
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: like the place. I can no longer remember if you

628
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: actually provided any analysis before that start. I know, I

629
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: said he's everyone says any seahawk could start any and

630
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: I think that it's a good feeling for the Giants.

631
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Are we now calling Dominique Rogers Gramarty

632
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: roe Crow? Did I see that somewhere this week? I

633
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: don't know, you know what? You bring him up? And

634
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm really depressed because we just got an email over

635
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: our over our system that DRC or roe Crow is

636
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: finalizing a deal with the Giants. The Jets were hot

637
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Speaker 1: after him, fits in perfect with Thurman. Well, yeah, my

638
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: analysis was going to be now Thurman is sticking at

639
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Speaker 1: nickelback where it belongs because you have prints of how

640
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Speaker 1: you have him on the other side, who's quality cornerback?

641
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: And now roe Crow not a bad secondary. They were

642
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: a good run defense last year. So maybe we should

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Speaker 1: have put the Giants in the instant debate today for

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Speaker 1: a second. How about the podcast God's hooking us up.

645
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: We're right in the middle of talking about the Giants

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Speaker 1: cornerbacks and they send us Dominique Rogers Crimarti to New

647
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Speaker 1: York and another big loss for the Jets come come

648
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Speaker 1: on back, Antonio Crimarti. We'll take you back in your

649
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: the magnetic hip, the Cremarty. They didn't want. Every every

650
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: day we see a different report that Rex Ryan really

651
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: wants this guy An that's right, Rex, really again, he

652
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Speaker 1: said yeah. According to Miniche Meta of the New York

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Speaker 1: Daily News, um a jet star said we better get him.

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Speaker 1: In regard to DRC, they looks like they did not.

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Speaker 1: You know that Ryan's in a dark room with like

656
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Speaker 1: a little tiny window, a little bit of light point,

657
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: and he's just got a big glass of milk or

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00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: like a big plate at chili cheese fries. He's going

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00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: off his diet. He's just angry. Hey, he's still got

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Speaker 1: Ellis Lankster. Underrated signing, Greg My underrated signing is Brandon Spikes.

661
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: This is not under This is under the radar. It's underrated,

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00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: it's underreported under I think Spikes. If there was a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl position for run stopping early down inside linebacker,

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Speaker 1: I'd vote for Spikes as one of the top two

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Speaker 1: or three guys. So it's like the bizarro Ryan Matthews. Yeah,

666
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: pretty much. He's pretty much the defensive version. And maybe

667
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: he's just a specialist. He doesn't play every down, Kiko

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Speaker 1: Alonso moves out to week side. He's in the middle

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Speaker 1: early downs, but I think he's going to be a

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Speaker 1: big difference maker. And he's with Patriots coach Pepper Johnson

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Speaker 1: who coached him for a few years. So familiar face there.

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Speaker 1: You love Brandon, I do he He was my favorite

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00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: Patriots draft pick on defense in about eight years. When

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00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: he signed, they kicked him out of town. They didn't

675
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: let him play in the playoffs. But it is telling

676
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: though that his former position coach obviously lobbied to bring

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00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: him back, so they he must have not been that

678
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: big of an issue. It seems like a little bit

679
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Speaker 1: of a wild card in terms of not really getting

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00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: with the whole program. But when you just watch him

681
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: play a lot of fun I like that. Uh mine

682
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: is I'm gonna go with my second sessler of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's a career high for you. Cortland Finnegan had a

684
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: bad run of it in St. Louis. He signed a

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00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: contract that was quite large. He did not perform up

686
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: to snuff in two thousand twelve. He he got hurt

687
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: in two thousand thirteen. But I'll tell you what people

688
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: do not write this man off. He's gonna go to Miami. Now,

689
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna be playing opposite Brent Grimes. You put Grimes

690
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Speaker 1: on on the number one receiver, You put Finn again

691
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: on the number two guy. He's gonna make some plays.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna get his career back on track and deal

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Speaker 1: with it. He's gonna be playing with a chip on

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Speaker 1: his shoulder, that's for sure. Chip on his shoulder. Thanks

695
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: to Mark Sessler. Mark, you're not as big a fan

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Speaker 1: of this move. Well, I wrote the post way he

697
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: signed with the Dolphins, and I suggested in it that

698
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: he really struggled last year and mentioned that he was hurt.

699
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: That's certainly a contributing factor. But I don't even think

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Speaker 1: it's a matter of opinion that he struggled this year.

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00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't come out of the blue with

702
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: this or especially strong. But I did hear from him

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00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: on Twitter about personally personally about well. No initially was

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00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: over public, and it said have a wonderful weekend, hope

705
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: to talk with you soon, looking forward to meeting with you,

706
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: hope to talk to you soon, and so friendly. Even

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00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: though it might seem to be right, I d m

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00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: him and I said, look like, and I'm not a

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Speaker 1: guy that's going to go at him personally and say

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Speaker 1: I'm right. And so I just said, I wish you lucky,

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00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we occasionally right stuff that I

712
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: can understand a player wouldn't like, et cetera. And I said,

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00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: if you'd ever like to respond or give me a

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00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: quote or anything like that, he wrote back. He was

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00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: very nice. He said, ha ha ha, you're just doing

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Speaker 1: your job. He said, I can tell you where you

717
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: can put that quote. You put Peyton Manning's narrative. It ended.

718
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say, but it ended. It ended. He was saying,

719
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: to put it up your butt. Wait is that? How

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Speaker 1: is it even possible? I was just saying it figurative

721
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: figurative direction. Wait does anybody yeah, Wes you disagree with

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00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: me that Courtland Finnigan has anything laughed correct? I think

723
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: this goes back to our hackem next thing. He didn't

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Speaker 1: have a good gear. He had an orbital fracture that

725
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: ended his season. I think he was also playing through

726
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: a thigh injury. It's tough to tell how much that

727
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: thigh injury affected his play, but every game I saw

728
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: him play, he was the slowest player on the field.

729
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: He looked like he was washed up. Now, how much

730
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: of that is in killing this move downstairs? Suddenly it

731
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: sounds like you're afraid of him tweeting at you. Well,

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00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: I think the whole thing it's an it's a worthwhile

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Speaker 1: reminder that these people are human beings. I feel the

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Speaker 1: same way, and like, honestly, we were not. We were

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Speaker 1: not out to heat seek Um. I wasn't. In the

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Speaker 1: post I wrote it was Listen. You know when you

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00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: read back on some of the injuries that Peyton Manning

738
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Speaker 1: had that we never found out about a lot of

739
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: these players play through stuff that will never know and

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00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: that could have been the case with Finnegan. So if

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Speaker 1: he's healthy and he has a full off season, Grimes

742
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: at the same age came back off a big injury

743
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: and played outstanding last season. There's nothing to say that

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00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: Finnegan isn't ready for a bounce back. But what we

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00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: saw last year doesn't suggest it. That's all. Let me

746
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: just throw this out there. Tell me which professional athlete

747
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: dislikes the reporter, journalist, employee more NFL Media Courtland Finnegan,

748
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Dante Hittner, Greg Rosenthal, Jared Allen slash slashes

749
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Speaker 1: agent Chris Westling and the gold standard, the soccer legend.

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00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: You've drawn no one's ire. Uh, let's go. Mark Sanchez

751
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: is agent. Yeah, he got on me a little bit,

752
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: but it wasn't Sanchez himself. But then again, Alan wasn't.

753
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: You haven't personally heard from Jared Allen, have you, wes No,

754
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: But his agent is awfully miffed. He's all bent out

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Speaker 1: of shape. What Dan's fair to say is that he's

756
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: a boot licker. I'm a bootlicker. Get picked, Dan. I'm

757
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: on your side. But I interacted to spin again and

758
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: we mended fences. Are you sure I attempted to I

759
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: didn't fan the flame. Yeah, I think it ended on Semi.

760
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: I think Alan's agent in west that's not going well.

761
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,479
Speaker 1: He still doesn't. He's not gotten paid yet, so you're

762
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: and when he's sitting up in the middle of the

763
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,479
Speaker 1: night blaming you, you're contributing to that financial mystery. That's

764
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: not a good mystery for the agent or the player.

765
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: Right now, you know what, I am, an agent provocateur

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00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: or I think it's pronounced all gen provocateur it um?

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00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: All right? Before we go a couple of things. Um, Mark,

768
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: you officially lost in our great game, iconic game, Go

769
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: get my lunch. You lost that last part supposed to

770
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: be implied, right, Sorry, you lost the Mark Sanchez Oakland

771
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: Raiders bet. Officially you said he would be on the

772
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: Raiders by March fourteen. That date is coming, coming, gone.

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00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: He is still a member of the New York Jech.

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00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: I did not say March foot, but yes I lost. Also,

775
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal Julian Edelman did not get more guaranteed money

776
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: that yet officially they're still holding out hoping. I'd like

777
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: to see the numbers before a three fourteen. We believe

778
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: that it's in that area, so a lot of that

779
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: would have to be guaranteed. But he really looked at it.

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00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: Golden Tate only add a nine and a half guarantee,

781
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: so I want to see the numbers. But assuming that

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00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: West winds that bet, we you know the final tally here.

783
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: Good luck I ended up even although I do have

784
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: to hand out a sandwich to West and Dan gets one.

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00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: Mark is the big loser. You lost two sandwiches, one

786
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: to Dan, one to West, and then uh, Dan and

787
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: West post ended up one sandwich apiece in the end,

788
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: not including separate lunch games that Greg and I had

789
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: on the side. Yeah, well that was before the game. Yeah,

790
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: what can you say? Uh? Yeah, Mark, what do you

791
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: have to say? The first game? First game out out

792
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: of the gate. We're gonna bring this back, obviously, but

793
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: to go down multiple sandwiches has gotta be a tough

794
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: way to stay. Yeah, that's fair. It's a it's a

795
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: long laundry list of embarrassments that I can mull over

796
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: at around two am some night. Um, all right, before

797
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: we go the money tags the we put out a

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Speaker 1: call for our listeners are loyal listeners to do our

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00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: work for us, and you guys did not disappoint at

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Speaker 1: hashtag um what is it? Money tags? We got a

801
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: lot of great ones. Greg, you are obviously you were

802
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: putting charge of this as the boss to decide which

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Speaker 1: ones actually get the call? What are you? What are

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00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: your thoughts so far going through what has been submitted? Well,

805
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: peek behind the curtain. You were of great help this

806
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: morning going through them as well, so we we both

807
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: helped to choose a number of them. It was fantastic.

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00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: I can't believe what great response we had, So I

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00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: guess keep it going. But for now, I think we've

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00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: got enough from this batch. We're gonna use upwards of

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Speaker 1: ten to fifteen of them. We might have we might

812
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: edit them slightly, but there were a lot of hilarious ones.

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00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: So thank you, and we'll probably have another call out

814
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: because we're still gonna be lazy, right, And if you

815
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: do not get picked this time around, you should take

816
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: it personally because it wasn't funny enough. Oh is that

817
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: that's not don't take it personal. There were a lot

818
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: of great ones and you just weren't in this mix.

819
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: Maybe next time if you didn't get picked, you weren't alone.

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00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say we must have got over

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00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: fifty responses. We chose about ten of them. A lot

822
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: of patricks didn't get picked. Kevin Patrick tried, but maybe

823
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: next time. For our a t L Chicago Correspondence special

824
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 1: shout out to Tristan who sent about a half dozen

825
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: of Tristan our number one fan out in Australia. That

826
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: guy's on top of his game at all times. Um.

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Speaker 1: All right, we will be back on Wednesday, where we

828
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Speaker 1: will continue to talk about free agency, Mark it just

829
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: never stops, and any other news that's happening around the

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Speaker 1: nfl M until then, this is Dan Hansons signing off

831
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Speaker 1: with the fail man, Miss Sizzler, the boss and the

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00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: gold standard behind the glass until that