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Speaker 1: Do You Around the NFL podcast is legal in the

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Speaker 1: continental United States, but not Hawaii. Welcome back to another

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Speaker 1: edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is

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Speaker 1: Dan Hansis and I'm joined by a room fell the heroes,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosen Thought. What's up? Boys?

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Speaker 1: Hey Dan? Happy Friday? Looking good? Blow twins? What's wrong

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Speaker 1: with the polos? I'm just saying, you look you look

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Speaker 1: like adorable like boys that were like like your family, Mark,

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Speaker 1: are the two boys are close together in age? You

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Speaker 1: guys look like two little boys together. They gave us

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Speaker 1: the shirts to wear them right, It's like, do you

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Speaker 1: Hue and Dewey. You'd have to find out. Uh, Greg,

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Speaker 1: you're feeling chipper, of course. I imagine after great, great

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Speaker 1: grace that is befall in the NFL. Well, I'm happy

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Speaker 1: to see the NFL take it, you know, in the

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Speaker 1: pants and uh, I'm happy to see Tom Brady is

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Speaker 1: gonna be back on the field in six days. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Less than a week. This is a big moment for Greg,

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Speaker 1: of course. Yeah, that's the big news, and we will

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Speaker 1: be getting into it. Tom Brady will be playing week

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Speaker 1: one after his appeal or the federal court ruled in

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Speaker 1: his favor. It's a dark day, but a nice day

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Speaker 1: for the throne of ease. Of course. Well, there was

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Speaker 1: a moment. I actually they're a small part of me

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Speaker 1: I am happy that the league office essentially was punished

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Speaker 1: for wasting all of our time over the last six months.

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Speaker 1: How much money and money, How much time have we

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Speaker 1: wasted talking about it's nonsensical issue. Let's check out too.

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Speaker 1: We had some readers that are listeners that sent in

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Speaker 1: some photos here. If you're watching in the video, and

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Speaker 1: this is Greg's throne of e is a big moment

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Speaker 1: for him. Uh, it doesn't get better. This is the

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Speaker 1: new throne of ease music. By the way, West not

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Speaker 1: Copyright claims have shot down our original throne of ease music,

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Speaker 1: call them? I don't know, photoshopped excitement. People are excited

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Speaker 1: about the throne of these Competing on Twitter today, I

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Speaker 1: You're not one of these, you know Massachusetts people that

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Speaker 1: their entire life centers around Tom Brady's fortunes. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that you really were that concerned whether he played

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Speaker 1: or not. No, not really out as a fan super

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Speaker 1: and I've been way more outraged on this issue than

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Speaker 1: you had. I'm just used to it. Well, your Patriots

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Speaker 1: The problem was when I looked over and the lowest

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Speaker 1: moment the history of this podcast or this group of people,

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Speaker 1: the celebration on the throne of ease. You guys crawling

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Speaker 1: through this, Greg, how do you get to the well?

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Speaker 1: I didn't have in the playoffs. Even it all looks

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Speaker 1: great on paper, it all makes sense. There's something rotten

429
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Speaker 1: in the core of the Miami Dolphins that generally they

430
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Speaker 1: blow it, and it's an organizational thing. It goes to

431
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Speaker 1: the top. You know that they could coach every I'm

432
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Speaker 1: just saying I don't really trust them. They could be

433
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Speaker 1: the rare team that makes the playoffs and fires the coach.

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Speaker 1: Your question about the Patriots. You know they've got Tom

435
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Speaker 1: Brady back, but I'm worried more about the defense. I

436
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Speaker 1: think the offense will be fine. They haven't played all

437
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Speaker 1: the receivers yet, but on defense, they've got a really

438
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Speaker 1: stout front seven. Dominique easily last year's number one pick

439
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: looks like lights out in the preseason Malcolm Brown up front?

440
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Speaker 1: Is that front seven going to be dominant enough to

441
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Speaker 1: make up for the fact that they lost their top

442
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Speaker 1: three cornerbacks from last year and nobody really knows outside

443
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Speaker 1: of Malcolm Butler who's playing cornerback for them, and they

444
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Speaker 1: the defense not only has to be better because the

445
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: secondary is bad, the defense has to be better upfront

446
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Speaker 1: because I don't think the offense is gonna put up

447
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Speaker 1: thirty points a game. This is gonna be a different formula,

448
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Speaker 1: and they're good at doing this, but I think this

449
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Speaker 1: is going to be a formula where Brady is not

450
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Speaker 1: putting up big fantasy stats and they're winning twenty two

451
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Speaker 1: to seven teen. Why would their offense be any different

452
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Speaker 1: than last year because their receivers are not deep at all. Uh,

453
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: the running back position is terrible, and they're starting three rookies.

454
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Speaker 1: Maybe the rookies will be great. What's different than last

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Speaker 1: year though three rookies, interior offensive line, the running back

456
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Speaker 1: positions worse, sins gone. LaFell is not going to be

457
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Speaker 1: there to start the full health though it took six

458
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Speaker 1: or seven weeks ago. By the way, the Patriots have

459
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Speaker 1: reeled off multiple double digit win season with some pretty

460
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Speaker 1: bad defenses over the years. Don't forget that Jonas Gray

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Speaker 1: hit a two game and he came out of nowhere.

462
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Speaker 1: Le Garrett Blunt didn't joined the team until after Halloween.

463
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Speaker 1: They'll be fine, said the same thing you did, though

464
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Speaker 1: in the preseason, Easily and Brown were both factors, especially Easily.

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Speaker 1: It's the best friend seven they've had since since two

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Speaker 1: thousand four, since they were usually was the guy they

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Speaker 1: thought they were getting when they drafted him and disappeared

468
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Speaker 1: last year. But he looks like they're on Mayo back.

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Speaker 1: How many teams go from having the best secondary they

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Speaker 1: had since two thousand and four to the next year,

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Speaker 1: five months later having the best set top front seven

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Speaker 1: they've had since two thousand and four. Very weird. Al Right,

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Speaker 1: I will now ask a question, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: I like this Tyrod Taylor story. He has been, you know,

475
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Speaker 1: a nice surprise in the preseason. But have we forgotten

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Speaker 1: Mark Sesler? The Tyrod Taylor has thrown one NFL pass

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Speaker 1: since two thousand twelve, and as you know, it's a

478
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Speaker 1: sixth round pick. Are we forgetting a bigger story that

479
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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor has never been a guy in the NFL

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Speaker 1: and maybe we should put too much stock in a

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Speaker 1: big season. Well, I think it's it's I like quarterbacks,

482
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Speaker 1: like I said on the last show, that get time

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Speaker 1: to grow and develop, and I like it better than

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Speaker 1: if he were a first year a quarterback with a

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Speaker 1: lot of buzz being thrown in with no experience. I

486
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Speaker 1: think Greg Roman has shown that he can work well

487
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Speaker 1: with a mobile passer and in molded offense around the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks skill set. He's done that before and I think, frankly,

489
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Speaker 1: the reason he's out there are big reasons that Rex

490
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Speaker 1: Ryan knows how hard he could be to prepare for

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Speaker 1: for defensive opponents. So still, though, with Buffalo, I expect

492
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Speaker 1: to see two or even three quarterbacks Star Games this year.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we've forgotten it at all. I think

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Speaker 1: the last podcast we said I wouldn't surprise that simply

495
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Speaker 1: was benched by Halloween. I mean, he's the best option

496
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Speaker 1: for them, but they don't have any great off I'm

497
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Speaker 1: more worried about his weapons because we know he's not

498
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Speaker 1: going to carry the team. But the idea would be

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Speaker 1: that Robert Woods, Percy Harvin, Sammy Watkins, Lashawn McCoy, Charles

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Speaker 1: Clay carry him. And to this point, the receivers are

501
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Speaker 1: all banged up and we don't really know how that's

502
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Speaker 1: all gonna work. I mean, if they don't get much

503
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Speaker 1: from Harvin, Watkins doesn't have the big breakout year, then

504
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Speaker 1: there's no reason to think Tyrod Taylor is going to

505
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Speaker 1: play well. But that's not a negative though, because he

506
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Speaker 1: has They have one of the best groups of skill

507
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Speaker 1: position players on paper. They haven't played. They haven't played

508
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Speaker 1: at all. And maybe it's not a big deal that

509
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Speaker 1: they didn't play in August, but they didn't play at all.

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Speaker 1: Another often very similar situation really between the Bills and

511
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Speaker 1: the Jets. A lot of good skill position talent in

512
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Speaker 1: New York, not a good quarterback in Ryan Fitzpatrick. Will

513
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Speaker 1: this be chan Gailey's finest our? Sprinkles the magic dust

514
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Speaker 1: that Patrick and get some puts an offense to go

515
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: with a really good defense. What's his finest hour? I

516
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: guess he was turning into a viable quarterback for an

517
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Speaker 1: eight week stretch? Well how many games that. I think

518
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Speaker 1: it's finest hour probably came for a brief stretch with

519
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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick and Buffalo too. I mean, he got but

520
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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick that massive contract. I liked it. He's paired with

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Speaker 1: a quarterback that knows him. Well. I take Gaily over

522
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Speaker 1: Greg Roman. Yeah, he's done it more. He's done it

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Speaker 1: with more, He's done it with different teams. Greg Roman

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Speaker 1: had a good year. When's the last time Gailey was

525
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Speaker 1: a part of a team that won more than six games?

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Speaker 1: Hasn't been on a team with a lot of talent

527
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Speaker 1: or a great defense like this? All this offense needs

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Speaker 1: to be is average. I mean, I don't think there's

529
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Speaker 1: a big difference between the Bill's Dolphins and Jets. I'm

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Speaker 1: with Dan on that. I think that one good thing.

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Speaker 1: And I don't put a lot of stock into off

532
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Speaker 1: preseason stats. But Ryan Fitzpatrick stepped into a tough situation

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Speaker 1: after Gineau got decked and by the way, I k

534
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: got released today by the Bill, so happy Trails punk.

535
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Speaker 1: But uh, but Ryan Fitzpatrick did not have a turnover

536
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Speaker 1: in any of the preseason games, and I like to

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Speaker 1: think that maybe he'll as he's as he knows his

538
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Speaker 1: role in this offense, he he gets rid of the

539
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Speaker 1: gunslinger mentality because he doesn't really have the skill set

540
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Speaker 1: to pull that off. If he plays smart, I think

541
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Speaker 1: that they'll be okay on offense. I don't think they'll

542
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Speaker 1: be dynamic, but I think they could be good enough

543
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Speaker 1: to score some points and win some game. That's part

544
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Speaker 1: of the reason. We'll get to it later why I

545
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Speaker 1: think they're gonna be in the mix. Already lost Jayson

546
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Speaker 1: Marrow for a year, which is a big, big loss. Well,

547
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Speaker 1: I will say, is gonna step up Chen Galley offenses

548
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Speaker 1: do not really utilize tight ends. I read about that

549
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: that's not that and he's kind of lost in space.

550
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Speaker 1: You would have hoped that he would step up. But

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say that Brandon Marshall look good in

552
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Speaker 1: the prese He looks healthy at least, which is all

553
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Speaker 1: you can hope for a Decker is healthy, it's Ivory's

554
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: looking good. At least, it's a healthy group. We killed

555
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Speaker 1: McCallen for not being a caretaker. Fitzpatrick the opposite of

556
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Speaker 1: a caretaker too. Yeah, all right, let's take a look

557
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Speaker 1: now at the a f C North and we will

558
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Speaker 1: start with Mark Sessler, who has a big question facing

559
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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. Yeah, I do. I mean, I think

560
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Speaker 1: the Ravens are one of these two games for good

561
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Speaker 1: reason that we kind of say, well, they're gonna go

562
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Speaker 1: ten and six and make the playoffs, and Ozzie Newsome

563
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Speaker 1: and John Harbaugh find a way to figure out no

564
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Speaker 1: matter what. And you've got Joe Flacco. So that's a

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Speaker 1: good start. But I look at their group of skill

566
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Speaker 1: position players we just talked about the Jets and Bills.

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Speaker 1: That's a plus for them. Are we overlooking Baltimore's lack

568
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: of playmakers? They Brashod Praman is not healthy right now.

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Speaker 1: You've got what Steve Smith looks good, but he's in

570
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Speaker 1: his final year in the NFL. That's not going to

571
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Speaker 1: center your entire offense around Steve Smith. Kamar Aikin. You

572
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: don't have a great tight end group. Max Williams right,

573
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Speaker 1: the rookie two xes, he's not healthy at the moment.

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Speaker 1: I just look at this this offense and say, what's

575
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Speaker 1: special about this offense Beyond people are like locking in

576
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: Pairman that he was going to be a big factor.

577
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Speaker 1: First of all, Addie Newsom is overall not been good

578
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Speaker 1: at drafting wide receiver. Secondly, he's the guy who tore

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Speaker 1: up draft boards because he had a huge, you know,

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Speaker 1: pro day performance. It's not like this is one of

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Speaker 1: the best wide receivers in the league. So you're counting

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Speaker 1: on a couple of rookies to immediately have a big impact,

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Speaker 1: which is and they're not going to. Max Williams is

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Speaker 1: not going to start for them, Crockett, Gilmore, Impairman hasn't

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Speaker 1: practiced yet. So I think it's totally fair to say

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Speaker 1: you're not getting any rookie impact early in the season.

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00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: So Kim Marlon Brown and Michael Campanaro and who else

588
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Speaker 1: a career special teamer. I think it's a fair question.

589
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: But I do think Steve Smith looked great in the

590
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Speaker 1: preseason third preseason game, and justin Forcett was a playmaker

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Speaker 1: last year. I know we like Tressman, but when you

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Speaker 1: get an offensive coordinator that improves your offense from about

593
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Speaker 1: twenty nine to third or whatever the numbers were last year.

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Speaker 1: And it's a big loss to this because I think

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Speaker 1: it's a valid concern. Max Williams two X is Greg.

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Speaker 1: How would you be different if you were Greg? With

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Speaker 1: one g Oh, I'd be much more corporate. Um, I

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Speaker 1: would swear less. Um, I'd probably wear more, you know,

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Speaker 1: like sweaters around my neck. I would be Yeah, Greg,

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Speaker 1: you know you're just a little more wild. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're more on your own. I don't think you'd be

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Speaker 1: in front of that synthesizer on for Delaware with one.

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Speaker 1: That's totally true. I don't know anything about math Well Browns.

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Speaker 1: Will we see Johnny Manziel, relieve josh um Cown and

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Speaker 1: give them reason to hope for two thousand and sixteen

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Speaker 1: that they have a quarterback because I don't see them

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Speaker 1: as a contender. To me, it's about building something for

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Speaker 1: next year. I don't see them as a contender this

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Speaker 1: season either. I look at Manzel and at the elbow stuff.

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Speaker 1: If he were completely healthy, I think he could be

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Speaker 1: in there by Week four, and yes, he would be

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Speaker 1: playing probably eight games or more. I think that's what

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Speaker 1: they want, is their young quarterback to step up. I

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Speaker 1: think the elbow issue is a bigger's like the question

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00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 1: maybe will we see Johnny Manziel have Tommy John surgery.

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Speaker 1: There has not been one positive sort of word about that.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's more than we're being told that's

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Speaker 1: the worst. This is beyond him getting back on an

619
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Speaker 1: inflatable swan. This is the worst possible situation that he

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Speaker 1: gets a arm injury or some type of injury that

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Speaker 1: keeps them off the field and keeps them out of

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Speaker 1: the mix. He could easily almost become a forgotten man

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Speaker 1: this season. And by the way McCown is, McCown has

624
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Speaker 1: never started sixteen games in the season. It's not that

625
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: he's injury prone, but he's had a share of injuries.

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Speaker 1: You could very easily be looking at Thad Lewis as

627
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Speaker 1: starting eight games and that's when you suddenly go to

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Speaker 1: Manzel is not healthy. Well, you say he's not injury prone,

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Speaker 1: but you've seen the way he runs around in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna get hit. Even when they were playing well,

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Speaker 1: he got hit a lot. I think we're gonna see

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Speaker 1: a lot of Manzel. I mean especially with this organization

633
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Speaker 1: when they're losing. I think the ownership, the GM took Manzel.

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Speaker 1: The ownership, you know, probably wants Manzel to play. I

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Speaker 1: think we're gonna see maim. You trust, you think he's

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Speaker 1: got to go. We're just guessing. But at some point

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Speaker 1: I think he'll be ready to play this year. Let's

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Speaker 1: move on to the Bengals. Where the Bengals bangles Bengals.

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Speaker 1: How do you say it? Bes Bengals? Am I saying

640
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: it right? You've said it fun different way. It's one

641
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: of the most accurate. So Eddy Dalton has been in

642
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: the league for four years, this is his fifth year,

643
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: has made the playoffs each of those four years. We

644
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: all know what happens in January. West of this loses

645
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: each year. Now at a certain point, how long do

646
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: the Bengals go with this? Is this a boomer bust

647
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: year for Andy Dalton if either they flop and missed

648
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: the playoffs or January happens again West, I think it is.

649
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: I think he's got the most loaded offense of his

650
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: career five years now. They've got a good breakout tight

651
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: end and Tyler Ifer Marvin Jones is back. They've got

652
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: a great back there with Jeremy Hill and Jew Bernard

653
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: and j Green's a great receiver. They should be division

654
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: champions and pass the first round. But I saw a

655
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: J McCarron in the third preseason game make three throws

656
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: that Andy Dalton doesn't have a J m c That's

657
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: what I call him. Uh A lot of logical sense

658
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: from Western Dan, but the Bengals don't apply logical sense.

659
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: What about them makes you think that if they go

660
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: ten and six again that they're not gonna just keep

661
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: paying Andy Dalton his mid level money, keep bringing back

662
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: Marvin Loew. So I don't think it's ammer bust. I

663
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: have an answer for that. What about them? Because when

664
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: Albert Brier was in hanging out with them in June,

665
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: he reported that the coaching staff seese a J McCarron

666
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: as a as a future carter. So they have another

667
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: option that they and as conservative as they have been

668
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: with Dalton and really kind of baby and I think

669
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: like at this point they they will have to make

670
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: a change because they have given him five years. At

671
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: that point, right, you give him one thing? I will

672
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: And to what Mark saying, it does feel maybe just

673
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: to me that the creep of this narrative is getting

674
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: stronger around the Bengals and Andy Dalton that it's becoming

675
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: a real almost like stink on the Bengals that they

676
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: can't move on in Dalton's not the answer. I would

677
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: wonder if another year of that happened would cause the

678
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: franchise to act, especially if they're high on the guy

679
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: behind him. And if you look at the Bengals now,

680
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: every time they have a big win, it doesn't it's

681
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: kind of like, well, okay, that's fine, do it in January.

682
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: It's like they're not even gonna They're not gonna get

683
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: a lot of enjoyment out of winning ten and games again,

684
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: which is a high bar for a team that could

685
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: do all. You know, they could be great, or they

686
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: could think. The Steelers are our number three team in

687
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: the Power Poll, which is a little aggressive. One of

688
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: the reasons I like them is they made a change

689
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: at defensive coordinator. Will dumping Dick lebou the old man

690
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: the game maybe had passed him. By dumping Dick pay

691
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: some dividends and will the defense be better? How? How say?

692
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: Removing a Hall of Fame worthy defensive coordinator one of

693
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: the best play callers on that side of the ball

694
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: that we've ever seen in the NFL be a plus

695
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: based on what we've seen from the defense so far

696
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: there are the preseason well, because it's Mike Tomlins, a

697
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: defensive coach, he gets someone's he's comfortable with. It's not

698
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: going to be a huge change from he was comfortable

699
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: with Leo. I don't think it wasn't a guy he

700
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: had worked with previously. They worked pretty well together, all right,

701
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: They didn't work well together the last couple of years.

702
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: I would say they underachieved for the roster that they

703
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: had pretty dramatically. This is exactly why I think we're

704
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: way too optimistic when we have them third. Because they're

705
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: mixing in some four three elements and cover two now.

706
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: It seems like a year of transition. To me, it's

707
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: gonna take a year for that defense to know exactly

708
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: what they're doing. When you've got you've gone from three

709
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: four for their entire Dick lebou era to going to

710
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: four three and some cover two now, so you're a

711
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: flex defense. I don't seems like it's gonna be like

712
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: a training year. They need a lot of young players here, Hayward.

713
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean they at least have some young people on

714
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: the Rothe Jarvis Jones is probably not gonna be a

715
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: big factor, but they have some younger people. Think it's

716
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 1: good that they got rid of some of the old

717
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: and slow guys. Greg's already written off Jarvis Jones just

718
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: because they're young, though that's not a plus necessarily. There's

719
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: a lot of young players that fade out of the

720
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: league in three years and some of these young Steelers

721
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: players have not shown that they're catching on. And you

722
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: talk about some of the young guys, a couple of

723
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: Steelers guys coming out, So there's character issues to there's

724
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: a problem with that locked room. Let's move on to

725
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: the a f C South, everyone's favorite division in the NFL.

726
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: When you think about football, you think about the a

727
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: f C South. If they have slogans, do something with yourself.

728
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: We'll start with Mark, Mark, you're darling. A year ago

729
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: is the Jacksonville Jaguars. You got all pumped up, but

730
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: now it's ready. You have no you have no love

731
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars anymore, do you? Well? No, I I

732
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: don't dislike the Jaguars. I think it would be fun

733
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: to see them turn it around, But I have to ask,

734
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: because I think they've had a very patient owner that said,

735
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: we have Goes Bradley a coach, We've got David Caldwell GM,

736
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: let's build something. It's not gonna be a one year thing.

737
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: But I mean, honestly, if we get another four and

738
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: twelve act out of this team, with the second year

739
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles more talent on defense, do you keep the

740
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: plan in place or does the owner getting patients say

741
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: we've got what's going on here? How can you keep

742
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: doing this year after year? Does anything grow? I honestly

743
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: don't know the answer to this if this isn't make

744
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: or break year, because I feel like if they go

745
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: six and ten and Blake Bortles plays great, yeah, that

746
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: they'll stick a I think it's on Boordles, and it's

747
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: on the context of how the season has gone. They've

748
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: already lost Fowler, if they lost Julius Thomas for much

749
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: of the season, if they keep having this terrible injury luck,

750
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: then you kind of look at how competitive they are.

751
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 1: If if they think they're making progress and Bortles makes progress,

752
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: I think they would have to really stink for them.

753
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: This is this is the power or responsibility that a

754
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: quarterback taken to the top ten of the draft has

755
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: on his shoulders. He the whole, the whole structure is

756
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: around him. So if he fails, it usually ends to

757
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: the to the guys that draft him getting wiped out too.

758
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: So I agree totally. I think if they win six

759
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: games and Boardles improves, marketing, Borts looks like, yeah, I

760
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: don't think you're firing them. Plus if you fire him,

761
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: that means three offensive coordinators in three years. Bordles is

762
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: learning a new system again, so are all the second

763
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: year wide receivers, which are you know, pretty much the

764
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: guts of that group, and you hate. You've seen it

765
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, you hate. I think called he called well

766
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: has kind of been his own guy. He knows what

767
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: he wants. I think the only problem is he hasn't

768
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: drafted any any real like Pro Bowl, he drafted any impact.

769
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: He's got a chance with last year's class that it

770
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: could be pretty good. We's the team. You're very high

771
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: on the Colts. What's your question? But we know their

772
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: offense is the greatest shoe on earth. Their offense is

773
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: gonna be great. That's what Pat Hamilton called him. But

774
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: it always comes back to the defense with them, and

775
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: they picked up some guys. Everyone acts like they haven't

776
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: addressed their defense. They picked up Trent Cool, they picked

777
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: up Kendall Langford, They've drafted a couple of guys. They've

778
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: got Robert mathis coming back eventually. So with this, with

779
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: the offseason additions, give this defense a backbone and big

780
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: games which has been there basically the bane of their existence. Well,

781
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: based on Ryan Griggson's track record, I don't think you

782
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: can put much in the offseason additions. They turned into

783
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: what about Trent Cools turned into Jones. I like Trent Cale,

784
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 1: but let's see him do it in Indiana. Arc Jones

785
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: is just bad luck. He got injured. He's a good

786
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: player who got injured. He played last year and when

787
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: he played, he wasn't pretty playing through injuries. I think

788
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, you talked about quarterbacks extending the careers of

789
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: personnel men and coaches. Ryan Grigson, look at he's gone

790
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: out and got some veterans this year. But Ryan Griggson

791
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: has swung and missed on a whole bunch of players.

792
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: And one thing that's not gotten better in Indianapolis is

793
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: you've not improved that offensive line in front of Luck

794
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: and the defense has pretty much stunk year after year.

795
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: You get into a big game in the SC Championship

796
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: get forty five, forty five points laid on you. So

797
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: they need to improve or I have to look upstairs

798
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: and say, what's the plan here? I I don't see it.

799
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: I don't see it on defense Josh Chapman and Monterey Hughes,

800
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: and who's their pass freshers math is hopefully when he's

801
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: Jonathan Newsome. Jonathan Newsome was really good down the stretch

802
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: last year. Okay, maybe they should be playing him. I mean,

803
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 1: the interesting thing we tiging Griggson is that I don't

804
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: think Griggson's on the hot seat, but based on an

805
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: article you wrote and Rapp Report has been talking about,

806
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: and really locally, I think Chuck Bagano is gonna need

807
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: to win some games in the playoffs or else they're

808
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: going to change coaches. But they won two games in

809
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: the playoff. Yeah, but I think they need to get

810
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl possible to win over the Bengals

811
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: in January? Is the playoffs? That's a fair question. I mean,

812
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: it happened, but they they knocked off the Bronco neither

813
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: didn't do though you could cut. You can get back

814
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: to the playoffs as a three seed, lose that first game,

815
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: and I don't think anyone would be surprised if they

816
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: got rid of Pagano. All right, let's talk about one

817
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: of the buzzy team of a t N candidates. Uh.

818
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: But I do have to ask ask the question. Are

819
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: the Titans our two thousand fifteen I say, hour the

820
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: around the NFL group, our two thousand fifteen version of

821
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: the two thousand fourteen Jaguars and two people that are

822
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: maybe new to the show. We were high on the Jags,

823
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: not just Mark uh and Blake Bortles in particular. We

824
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: were glowing about them, just like we're very glowing about

825
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota right now. Are we getting sucked in by

826
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: a new shiny toy? Yes? I think the Jaguars this

827
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: year are going to be better than the Titans. I

828
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: think the Jaguars could win seven games, be the second

829
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: place team. The Titans defense is really the even if

830
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: Mariota is good, there's no reason to think that the

831
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: Titans defense is any better. Well, what what? What is

832
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: it we're getting sucked into? Because I wouldn't put the Titans.

833
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: I had a pretty is what we're getting suthing into.

834
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: I'll answer you a question before you that Mariotta will

835
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: be an impact guy as a rookie, That this team

836
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: will jump up in wins. What do they have last year?

837
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: Two wins two two wins, that this is like a

838
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: six or seven win team, So a big jump in

839
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: wins and the quarterbacks the real deal? All right, Well,

840
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: then I am sucked into the idea that they could

841
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: win six games, because I don't think there's that much

842
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: of a shocking difference to get up to six wins.

843
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: Bad teams can get six wins. I do believe in Mariotta.

844
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I think we all do.

845
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: I think there's reasons to believe that Tennessee after being

846
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: you know, lost at sea for years with a coach

847
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: that I don't especially love, and wins and hunt, they

848
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: seem to have a plan. They they found a quarterback,

849
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: everything does start to change. I don't think there are

850
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: version because I didn't believe in the Jaguars last year,

851
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: but the what you lay it out there, I believe

852
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: that Mariotta is the real deal. I believe they're going

853
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: to have some more wins. They're not going to be

854
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: a good team, But most importantly to me, I think

855
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a lot more exciting to watch. That's

856
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: a big step up because they were unwatchable for years

857
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: on end. I think that is any more exciting that

858
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: they're fun to watch. I will go with the Houston Texans,

859
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: who I have enjoyed greatly on Hard Knocks. It's the

860
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: reason you go on hard knocks. Now, I'm rooting for

861
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: this team. I like these guys, but I look at

862
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: the roster. You have a question, why does anyone think

863
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: the Texans will be any good? What? There's J J. Watt.

864
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 1: They have the best defensive player in the league. Other

865
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: than that, why are they any better than the Titans?

866
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: Are Jaguars? Tell me, like, what is it? Answer this question?

867
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: And that's what I asked. I asked Maurice Jones Drew

868
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: and I telled this question when I was on the

869
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: couch last night new NFL segment on the Couch with

870
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: Da've Damaged Check whatever it's called NFL Sunday, they all

871
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: like on the couch better, Let's be honest. They predicted

872
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: the Texans will win nine or ten games and I

873
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: pointed out that they had the easy schedule in the

874
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 1: league last year, and they totally dismissed that as a factor,

875
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: that every team in the league is hard to play,

876
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: and I just looked at him like they were crazy, like,

877
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: of course schedule matters. Of course it matters, and you

878
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: have advantages that they're still in the a f C. South.

879
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, when you look up and down, what

880
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: is this team good at. You don't have a good quarterback,

881
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: you don't really have a great defense. I don't think

882
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: other than why, like, there's nothing that gets me excited about.

883
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: I think what you're saying is that last year's nine

884
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: and seven records wasn't really that different than a few

885
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: things changing in them going seven and nine five and eleven. Well,

886
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: I don't think they're a five and eleven team because

887
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: I I've started to look at Bill O'Brien as a

888
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: good coach. I don't think that their quarterback situation is

889
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: worse than last year. It's still very shaky, but it's

890
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: not worse. You're still the best defensive player in the league,

891
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: and you've got some talent on that team. You can win.

892
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: You can go eight and eight because I can make

893
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: an argument for so the Texans defense was a top

894
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: three defense down the stretch last year in the NFL.

895
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: Brian Cushing looks like he's a different player this year

896
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: than he was last year. Devin Clowney, you might get

897
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: an impact from him this year, you might not. I

898
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: think their secondary could be a little bit better. The

899
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: first round picks look looks like a hit, Vince Will,

900
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: So you could have you could have a top five

901
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: NFL defense. Okay, all right, let's let's move on to

902
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: the a f C. West Mark gettis old baby, but

903
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: in Black Well, I mean, the Raiders have been, you know,

904
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: the butt of many jokes on this podcast for a

905
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: long time, for good reasons, but the butt of the jokes.

906
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: But let me Mackenzie, who we've flamed endlessly. I look

907
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: at the last two drafts, and you know he he

908
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: was high enough where you pick players that you think

909
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: are going to be good, and they were, and it's

910
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: Khalil mack turned out to be the guy. You have

911
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: a young quarterback Eva Marii Cooper. Is Reggie Mackenzie starting

912
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: to quietly build a quality team. I don't believe that

913
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: he is. I think he's quietly building a six and

914
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: ten team or seven and nine, all right for this year.

915
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: But that's I mean, I don't believe that there's nothing.

916
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: I know that scouts and executives and coaches love Derek

917
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: Carr because he can spin it and it takes no effort.

918
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: That's what they always say. He's yet to show that

919
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: he's a decent quarterback. I mean analysts, I respect Ryan Riddle.

920
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: He used to be on the Raiders. He follows them closely.

921
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: He thinks Matt mcgloyn is better than Derek Carr. He's

922
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: watched everything this freezes in j Matt mcgloyne is a

923
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: good is a good quarterbacks? I think mc mcloan is

924
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: is one of the things. I think he's built a

925
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: respectable roster that it does not look out of place

926
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: in the NFL, which is different than most of that. Yeah, alright,

927
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: how about West? You give us your pick for a

928
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: an C West team? Really more a question West? Your

929
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: turn nailed it all right? Well, everybody knows that Alex

930
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 1: Smith didn't throw a touchdown past to a wide receiver

931
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: last In fact, he went five days without a touchdown

932
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: past to a wide I did not know that, well,

933
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,479
Speaker 1: Now he's thrown two weeks in a row, he's thrown

934
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: a touchdown past to Jeremy Macklin. So basically, Alex Smith

935
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: is Johnny Unitus. Now he's got this touchdown streak that

936
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: will never stop. It will the preseason magic Alex Smith

937
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: to Jeremy Macklin connection hold up during the season. Is

938
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: that's the sign of things to come? I think it

939
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: will because I think the Chiefs are one of those

940
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: teams that kind of what you see is what you get,

941
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 1: and Maclin is not a guy that's come out of nowhere.

942
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 1: You have Kelsey on that team as well, which gives

943
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: defense is a lot of headaches. Maclin is going to

944
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: come out of this season changing what we think about

945
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: this passing game as a zero touchdown. Change what you

946
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: think about Jeremy Macklin, who were not a lot of

947
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: big fans in Jeremy. What you see is what you get.

948
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: What you see is a bowl of oatmeal. I mean,

949
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: this is a boring roster. I think Alex Smith at

950
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: this point is overrated. I mean I would rather have

951
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: Jake Cutler than Alex Smith. I have a lot of

952
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and Alex touchdown a game. He could do that,

953
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: So Alex Smith ends up with six. He's a mid.

954
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: I think he's right there. He's not a much different

955
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: than Andy Dalton. He's in the middle. It's like, why

956
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: do people love Alex Smith so much? I don't know

957
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: if people do. I think people kind of know what

958
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,959
Speaker 1: Alex Smith is. He's boring, That's what he is. Boring.

959
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: Let's let's move on to the Denver Broncos and a

960
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: question that we've been asking for a few years now,

961
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: throw it out there again. Is Peyton Manning about to

962
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: stick it to the football cognescente once again? Big? Once again?

963
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: He did it for for he did it after next surgery. Wait,

964
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: doesn't the football cognizenti generally regard him as the greatest

965
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: quarterback of his generation? And perhaps, of course well from

966
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: a larger sense. But the micro sent which is the

967
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen seas, shouldn't replace football con senti with

968
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: Dave damnash it. I know that is not true because

969
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people think Peyton Wait a second, you

970
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: guys all think that everybody thinks that Manning is not

971
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: gonna be Manning anymore. But he didn't stick it to

972
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: everybody again? All right? Then how about this, I'll say,

973
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be anything numbers wise

974
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: what we've seen in the past few years, because I

975
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: think they're going to be much more of everything they've

976
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: said John Elway on down. They're gonna be a run

977
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: focused team, not fifty touchdowns, but all right. But I

978
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: also think I look at him and the three four

979
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: preseason games so far, he does not look like a

980
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: great quarterback right now. He does not throwing with authority.

981
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: I just so, I don't think he's gonna flip a switch.

982
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they're going to be fascinating

983
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 1: to watch because the defense I think is right there

984
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: among the most talented defenses the entire league. But Manning

985
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: in the difference between him and Kubiak offense in terms

986
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: of shotgun in terms of two tight ends using full

987
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: but like it's it's as different as can be, so

988
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: watching that tradition is gonna be I do like the

989
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,479
Speaker 1: idea of Peyton Manning sticking it to damas Chick again,

990
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: as we have in the graphic here. Uh Dave, who

991
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: has been waiting for Peyton Manning's career to end for

992
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: like six years now. It's clearly personal. Uh, Willie stick

993
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: it to Dave? How about that? I invite Peyton Manning

994
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: to stick it to me or to Dave because he

995
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: certainly didn't do it last January. Another big time quarterback

996
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: in that division who doesn't have as much help Philip Rivers.

997
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: With an improving defense and some changes on offense, does

998
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers finally have enough help to win that division? Well,

999
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: the help would be the Broncos falling off a cliff,

1000
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: and I don't think that's gonna happen completely, so I

1001
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: would say no. As well. I see the Chargers relatively

1002
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: at the same team. Number one, Melvin Gordon from what

1003
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: we've seen, that was the guy that was supposed to

1004
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: be the whole offense is gonna channel through him in Rivers?

1005
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: Is just gonna get while we writing that guy off

1006
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: so soon though? Two preseason? Yeah, no, I did watch it.

1007
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: Why Why is it over? It's not over? It's not over.

1008
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: I don't he can develop into a running back, but

1009
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: he's so clearly right now is not a running back

1010
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: who's gonna help? What if he was just nervous? Maybe

1011
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: it was his first games in the NFL and he

1012
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: wasn't ready yet and he gets a little bit uncomfortable,

1013
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 1: and by week four he's an offensive Rookie of Year candidate.

1014
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: Can easily happen. Okay, what if he was just nervous.

1015
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: But almost everyone who evaluated this guy coming out of

1016
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 1: college had the same concern that he's shown in these games.

1017
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: Thought he was like a Chris Johnson with a little

1018
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: more like a late career Chris Johnson where he's just

1019
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: Boomer bust. I think the defense is where Rivers could

1020
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 1: get help to. The secondary is good with with Verrett

1021
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: and Flowers, you know, I think this could be a

1022
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: good looking team. You want to hear just one really

1023
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: weird stat Malcolm Floyd, Philip Rivers, Antonio Gates. They are

1024
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: the first trio to play twelve years together in over

1025
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: forty years. There and the other trio is some random

1026
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: jets one I can't even remember at the top of

1027
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 1: my head. And wait, who's your guy in Vegas, horse

1028
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: Shack or whatever. The spice Rack, spice Rack, Spicereck is

1029
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 1: a huge Melvin Gordon. You know he's got to be nervous.

1030
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: I'll ask him today if he's nervous because we disagree

1031
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,479
Speaker 1: on this issue, all right, let's do some spice racks,

1032
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: entire careers on the line. All right, let's let's go

1033
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: around the room and do some predictions. What would you say,

1034
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: what a career it's been? The spice rack? I mean,

1035
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't exist. Is the football life coming out for

1036
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: this October sizzler? Your playoff picks? All right? Well, there

1037
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: it is on the board. If you're listening to home,

1038
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: it's the Cults at number one, Healers at number two,

1039
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots number three. Fourth, we've got the Broncos number five,

1040
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, and number picks the Baltimore Well you're

1041
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: honking about the Ravens. Just you know, TV wanted us

1042
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: to come up with a little, you know, side item.

1043
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: And I'm wondering if I've maybe overrated the Ravens because

1044
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: I have watched them for so long that success into

1045
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,479
Speaker 1: a playoff spot and maybe you know, this team isn't

1046
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: quite that good. No one second guesses himself before like

1047
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: the opinions out of his mouth faster. Well, listen, I

1048
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: am willing to admit that I am human. I make

1049
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: many mistakes. This could have been one of them. You

1050
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: have yourself covered in both ways. Now, good job very smart,

1051
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: less your picks. Like Mark, I also have the Colts

1052
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: in the number one spot, followed by the Patriots, whom

1053
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: I moved up following the Brady news to number two.

1054
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: I believe they were third and now their second. The

1055
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: Broncos are third stealers. I still have questions about them.

1056
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: Ravens five and Dolphins six very similar Dolphins to me.

1057
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: I know, we worry about Joe Philbin. Dan especially worries

1058
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: about Joe Philbin. I think Bill Laser's driving this team,

1059
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: and I'm on board with Mark Hanna hellos kid, I

1060
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: just feel like this, this Chip Kelly offense is such

1061
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: an advantage and everybody's always wide open. You know what

1062
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: happened here, Dan, This turned in the consensus corner. They

1063
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: agreed on everything, so that ended up being our group picks.

1064
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: We had our own minds, you know. Yeah, Well, you

1065
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: know that's that's Polo twins. Sometimes they get on the

1066
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: same page with things, they get on rolls together. Alright,

1067
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: my board, here we go. What are your picks? Just

1068
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: hear him, Let's go for it. Shut up. The Steelers

1069
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: are my number one team. I believe the Steelers will

1070
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: go twelve and four this year. The Pats at number two.

1071
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 1: With Brady sixteen games, I think you got another eleven

1072
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: wins at least coming the Colts three, they'll win the division.

1073
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 1: The Broncos of four, I think I don't love that division,

1074
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: the Ravens of five, because the Ravens are always in

1075
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: the mix, and I liked them again this year. And yes,

1076
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: I have the Jets at number six, the New York

1077
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: Football Jets and uh D, honestly, honestly, like, here's here's

1078
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 1: the thing, Like, I why should my opinion wildly shift?

1079
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: Back in June, when I thought they had a chance

1080
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs, everybody was like, well, yeah, they'll

1081
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: be in the X. And now, for some reason, I'm

1082
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: not even sure why. Maybe because the guy got his

1083
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 1: jaw broken. Now everyone's like, oh, this is a completely

1084
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: insane pick. This is a team with talent on both

1085
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: sides of the ball and big. If their quarterback does

1086
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: not kill them, they're gonna win at least nine games.

1087
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: I'm almost certain of it. Dan be wrong in June

1088
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: and wrong in September. It's a good also a team

1089
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 1: I thought I would make the playoffs last year. My board,

1090
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: I have the Broncos number one, but I think the

1091
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: Broncos defense with Wade Phillips could be the number one

1092
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: defense in league. Take and that would lead the way

1093
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: Steelers number two, Patriots three, Cults four, and then I

1094
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: got the Chargers and the Bills making the playoffs. None

1095
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: of us had the Bengals. I like this Chargers team.

1096
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: I think this Chargers team is pretty balanced throughout the

1097
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: offense and the defense. I think the defense could be

1098
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: dramatically improved. They have a top ten quarterback. I think

1099
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: they could be a fun team to watch this year,

1100
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: and so I like them. To make it back to

1101
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 1: the plan, you always like the Chargers. The Bengals don't

1102
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: deserve none of us. They don't win thumping Bengals, alright.

1103
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: I like Mike McCoy. And by the way, I might

1104
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: be wrong in June and now, but let's see the

1105
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: Browns on anyone was Let's see Yeah, But that's because

1106
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: I didn't. I believe. I am a fan who believes.

1107
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: And that's it for Friday's edition of Around the NFL

1108
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: Podcast West I love you, baby, We're good will be.

1109
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: That was awkward. We will be back on Monday. Tuesday.

1110
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Labor Day. Monday is American Holiday on Tuesday,

1111
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: we will be back uh. And then the big season

1112
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 1: starts Thursday. Dan Hands is signing off for the Quiet Storm,

1113
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: the mail Man, the Boss Tet, and everybody behind the glass.

1114
00:53:40,000 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: So next week, I'm lonely. I'm lonely. I'm so lonely.

1115
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: Fill this void, Someone fill this void.