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Speaker 1: is five and one. That's right. And then I wanted
Speaker 1: to point out and get your thoughts because they're on
Speaker 1: on Tuesdays and then usually on Wednesdays everybody has theirs up.
Speaker 1: But I just saw power rankings today, so I looked
Speaker 1: over ESPN's power rankings, and they've got Arizona number one,
Speaker 1: Buffalo two, the Real Buffalo, number two, the Rams three,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay four, Dallas ways in at five. The Washington
Speaker 1: Post came out with their top uh, their their power rankings.
Speaker 1: They've got Green Bay one, Tampa Bay two, Arizona three,
Speaker 1: the Rams four, Baltimore at five, Dallas six, Green Bay one.
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk dot Com at NBC has their power rankings,
Speaker 1: and they've got Arizona one, Tampa Bay two, Baltimore three,
Speaker 1: the Rams four, Green Bay five, Buffalo six, Dallas seven.
Speaker 1: They just hate to put us up there. Don't think
Speaker 1: we always part of the also lan. So what's your thoughts?
Speaker 1: ESPN Cowboys five, Washington Post Cowboys six, NBC Pro Football
Speaker 1: Talk Cowboys seven. Were sitting back right, we send by right.
Speaker 1: Note at seven we sit by right five six or
Speaker 1: seven seven boys to come up off of the off
Speaker 1: of this break. He just run through some folks, see
Speaker 1: he don't he don't want to he's no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he wants us to stay. No no, no no, don't
Speaker 1: poke the bear type of things. So yeah, no, you
Speaker 1: don't really want to know. It took me five years. No,
Speaker 1: ever since. We are ready you and you're looking at
Speaker 1: number one on Homer in the world never picked the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to ever lose. Even last year I was sixteen
Speaker 1: and old, they added a game. I'm seventeen and old.
Speaker 1: We are poise, my friend, because down these coaches gonna
Speaker 1: break down this film. They're gonna really see how our
Speaker 1: defense is playing. We ain't get nobody back of significance,
Speaker 1: you know, no more than dance. I'm strong to get back.
Speaker 1: It gives coach McCarthy. Yeah, we get Coach McCarthy. We
Speaker 1: don't need it back to your ship. We get coach
Speaker 1: McCarthy and kill them to get together and really tweak
Speaker 1: this thing a little bit so we can make this run.
Speaker 1: Because once we become number one, number two, number three,
Speaker 1: you don't want to fall off of it. You don't
Speaker 1: want to follow. We're in the right spot because Asna
Speaker 1: is dangerous, the Rams Green Bay is dangerous. But don't
Speaker 1: be afraid to be better than five now, you know.
Speaker 1: But you sound like you're saying, well, you know, we're
Speaker 1: not going to get poised. We're not there. We're not
Speaker 1: better than five. We're not four. No, we're not there yet.
Speaker 1: We're not four, Because you cannot tell me, in your
Speaker 1: heart of hearts that right now, these teams on a
Speaker 1: neutral field that Dallas can bust them up. See, I
Speaker 1: won't one hundred percent. I will bust you up. Go
Speaker 1: through that first one again from missus new that's the
Speaker 1: best one. The first on the ESPN one has an
Speaker 1: Arizona one, Buffalo two, the Rams three, Tampa Bay four,
Speaker 1: Dallas five. That's the best. That's the best one. And
Speaker 1: they're sitting at the best spot right there, because which
Speaker 1: one you know, which one of those teams that you
Speaker 1: think Dallas will bust up right now? The first of all,
Speaker 1: I just want to win. I think we can beat
Speaker 1: all of them. I'm not trying to bust them up
Speaker 1: and blow them out. You're not gonna blow any of
Speaker 1: those guys out. What I'm looking at is you've got
Speaker 1: a Rams team that tanked a game. You've got Buffalo
Speaker 1: that tanked a game. The Cowboys didn't tank a game.
Speaker 1: They got beaten by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: could be five and old, six and old. Right now
Speaker 1: you're telling me that's not the case. They could be
Speaker 1: six and now, can you give me those first four guys. Again,
Speaker 1: there's missus Kruggs all right. In the ESPN polls Arizona, Buffalo,
Speaker 1: Rams at three, Tampa Bay four, Dallas five. Now here's
Speaker 1: the interesting one. It's the Washington Post where they've got
Speaker 1: Green Bay at one, Tampa Bay at two, Arizona who's undefeated.
Speaker 1: They have only three Rams, four, Ravens five, Dallas it's
Speaker 1: six Green off quarterback's personality. A personality is at the quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's true. I'm just trying to tell you Cincinnati had
Speaker 1: Green Bay beat their Cincinnati's kicker just in the jam Broto.
Speaker 1: So you look at all of those games, there could
Speaker 1: have always been some type of scenario where, yeah, they
Speaker 1: all of those teams could have had the worked over
Speaker 1: clothing us Nate. Yes. So that's why I say I'm
Speaker 1: not winning by busting them up. I know that anyone
Speaker 1: let me get busting up. Busting up to me is
Speaker 1: whether you win by a hundred or whether you win
Speaker 1: by one, you got busted up. So what you're saying
Speaker 1: is you want to show a particular dominance. I want to, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: these teams that you have spoken in that ESPN, these
Speaker 1: teams right now has I think both sides of the
Speaker 1: ball a little bit better than us, you know, both sides,
Speaker 1: both sides. Yeah, defense, I'm telling you, man, you can't
Speaker 1: tell me at this point you had the Cowboys at
Speaker 1: five and one. Did you ever see I'm the only
Speaker 1: one to have them at six and I'm the only one.
Speaker 1: So what I'm trying to tell you is they are
Speaker 1: in the right place at the right time to do
Speaker 1: some big damage. Now you want in three weeks, because
Speaker 1: with the schedule we got changed, things ain't gonna change
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. The Cowboys at nine games, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: should be eating one. I can live with the ESPN one,
Speaker 1: the Washington Post one first quarterback deal, yeah, Green Bay one. Overall,
Speaker 1: I just say absolutely not, because if you had Dallas
Speaker 1: faced Green Bay right now, I would take the Cowboy
Speaker 1: um and then to have an undefeated Arizona team. What
Speaker 1: you're playing at you're playing at home, right, It doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: you could, doesn't matter. Not this team. I'm with you, Kno,
Speaker 1: this team, not this squad. This ain't you ain't going
Speaker 1: not with Aaron Rodgers. What's what's tax record up there?
Speaker 1: Green Bay? I don't know. One, No, I don't know,
Speaker 1: But not not. Yeah, yeah, it ain't been since. But
Speaker 1: I'm telling Aaron Rodgers, no, sir, come on the next one.
Speaker 1: Here are you going on personalities? No? No, not, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, when why can't you blame them for place?
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not blaming them. I say they did
Speaker 1: that because I'm just giving you the reason. Ever, I
Speaker 1: know the reason I call you cover right, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: caught me so so I'm looking at the Washington Post
Speaker 1: number one of cream Band. I'm just no. And then
Speaker 1: to disrespect Arizona by having three right, um, Arizona's shown
Speaker 1: you they're a good football team. And to go into
Speaker 1: Cleveland without your head coach, and I mean they not
Speaker 1: an excuse to lose. They just knocked the Browns in
Speaker 1: their mouth. They said, up there, hurt the quarterback. You
Speaker 1: got just number two running back, Cream Hunt. They put
Speaker 1: him out again. I mean they put it on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they game that work. The Cowboys put them on. People
Speaker 1: understand all this. So so the Washington Post knew it.
Speaker 1: Y'all know, y'all know, we all know. Indeed, symbol them
Speaker 1: same teams being naming. Right now, I headed a Cowboy,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the same one. We're talking about making
Speaker 1: this run. Y'all know it, don't That's fine, But October nineteenth,
Speaker 1: here on a Tuesday, October nineteenth, I'm looking at this
Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm looking at this and I just
Speaker 1: don't get Green Bay at one. Now. Pro Football Talk
Speaker 1: there they had the Cowboys ranked the worst at seven
Speaker 1: and they went Arizona one, which I believe that that's
Speaker 1: that's where they should be at six. Yeah, Tampa to
Speaker 1: Baltimore three, that's the one I shake my head on
Speaker 1: and I just say, yes, wow, because you've got Ronnie
Speaker 1: Stanley now, who's out, excellent, excellent tackle. Ronnie Stanley's out
Speaker 1: for the year. I don't think that team with just
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson alone and no other in my opinion good
Speaker 1: running backs can beat the Cowboys. I don't think they
Speaker 1: can beat them. And I'm just looking at consistency. I
Speaker 1: think Lamar's asking how much in this league you guys
Speaker 1: have played it? How much can you keep putting on
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson as he's starting to lose offensive lineman and
Speaker 1: the I forgot the one kid they brought out. He
Speaker 1: came out, had a good game, and he's kind of
Speaker 1: slowed back down. I think what lamars. Can we look
Speaker 1: at the right, I don't think can we look at
Speaker 1: Can we pull that up? Where are the next three
Speaker 1: or four games? Because that is huge for Baltimore, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: for Baltimore. Can we look that up? Because if they playing,
Speaker 1: they're finding the dig teams they can get and get help.
Speaker 1: There we are playing some some so called okay the teams.
Speaker 1: The schedule for Baltimore here looks is really good. So
Speaker 1: they get Cincinnati, then a bye week, then they get Minnesota,
Speaker 1: then they're at Miami, they're at Chicago before they go
Speaker 1: back to face Cleveland. That's two losses. It's favorable man,
Speaker 1: five and one right now. Yeah, so come on, man,
Speaker 1: if you get the nine games, which is the new
Speaker 1: halfway point nine games, and you sitting at six games
Speaker 1: even five and four, you you are set up to
Speaker 1: make a run on the second half of the season.
Speaker 1: And we don't know why this thing gonna go bard
Speaker 1: injuries like you say, but if everybody quarterbacks staying tall,
Speaker 1: because we all know at the end of the year,
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna make the different. Right. It's got an
Speaker 1: amazing boarding cast with their quarterback cowboys in pretty Man.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys quarterback can go toe to toe with Baltimore's quarterback.
Speaker 1: I agree, And so just for me, when I'm looking
Speaker 1: here at the one pig can can I when you
Speaker 1: when you tell the defense match up, right, I'll see
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Which defense would be the best? Yes,
Speaker 1: match up? Yes, that's the that's the tipping point. My
Speaker 1: issue with Baltimore three. I don't think Baltimore is a
Speaker 1: better football team than Dallas right now. They got and
Speaker 1: then they got the rams at for green Bay five,
Speaker 1: Buffalo sixth in Dallas seven. I just think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: at seven is wrong. Oh, there's no doubt that's wrong.
Speaker 1: That the Cowboys are. This is the Pro Football Talk
Speaker 1: at NBC's Pro Football Talk, NBC's Pull Arizona one, Tampa two,
Speaker 1: Baltimore three, the rams at for green Bay five, Buffalo six,
Speaker 1: Dallas seven. The Cowboys are a top five football team
Speaker 1: right now. I'm not gonna argue with that. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna that's that's probably the world five or six. You're good, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but what about you don't have us at seven? The
Speaker 1: thing you agree with the seven nothing but a pole,
Speaker 1: it's nothing but college. It's just like the college for
Speaker 1: nobody knows, but as the season goals, we will find out.
Speaker 1: We know this, but it's always talking about right, fun conversations, right,
Speaker 1: I want talking right now on October nineteen. I look
Speaker 1: at this pole ESPNS. I say, fine, where you've got
Speaker 1: the Cowboys the Washington Post pole. I disagree with they
Speaker 1: got the Cowboys and six and then they've got Green
Speaker 1: Band one and I don't think Green Bank can be
Speaker 1: I don't see how the Rams are better than us.
Speaker 1: We're talking about based on who they played, how they've played,
Speaker 1: and I'm seeing the same games y'all seeing. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the stars that y'all are talking about and the
Speaker 1: backups that y'all are talking about. All of them take
Speaker 1: the game. I'm so we did not take one game,
Speaker 1: and so early in the season. Man, So I haven't
Speaker 1: just went down and broke it down like you guys have.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you it don't matter seven. Okay, fine, fine,
Speaker 1: I'm good with it, brother, because I'm telling you after
Speaker 1: this break, while we do another show together, so I
Speaker 1: can help you out. All right, I'm just gonna sit
Speaker 1: up here and just look. These are the Rams victories. Okay,
Speaker 1: they beat Chicago, they beat Indianapolis. They beat Tampa at home,
Speaker 1: they beat Seattle, they beat the Giants. Okay, that's one
Speaker 1: team with the winning records that they beat. Okay, Tampa,
Speaker 1: everybody they beat them in Tampa. No they no, that
Speaker 1: was that was in La Okay. That was that was
Speaker 1: in La Okay. So just looking at that, the Giants
Speaker 1: or what one in five? Uh, Indianapolis is two and
Speaker 1: four maintaining. Okay, Chicago they're struggling at three and three
Speaker 1: like over here, and I look at green Bay, Okay,
Speaker 1: five and one football team got drilled by the Saints.
Speaker 1: Beat Detroit one last second against San Francisco. Because once again,
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan has no clock management skills. I don't know
Speaker 1: what you could playing about, Mike McCarthy. Go ass, go look,
Speaker 1: go look at Kyle Shanahan. Who's Niners are two and three.
Speaker 1: They beat Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh we see right now is in
Speaker 1: last place. Three and three. They escaped against Cincinnati and overtime,
Speaker 1: and then they drilled Chicago, who's a three and three.
Speaker 1: But no, I'm just sitting here just saying I look
Speaker 1: at Baltimore, I look at Green Bay. You can't tell
Speaker 1: me those teams are better than that based on what
Speaker 1: you just said. And Nate, here's all I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: am not overly impressed with them to where they should
Speaker 1: be up higher than the Cowboys because of the miss
Speaker 1: steps that they've taken. He just pointed out too, teams
Speaker 1: that have taken missteps that we haven't taken. Any missteps
Speaker 1: that we've taken. We still won the game. You see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And the one game that we lost
Speaker 1: it was against the Phenix Super Bowl CHAMPI Thursday night.
Speaker 1: We know how they went. I feel you, man, I
Speaker 1: feel like we used to do them fry turkeys. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm just I feel you back that to me, based
Speaker 1: on what he just talked about, you don't see the
Speaker 1: Cowboys making those missteps and still losing. They make those
Speaker 1: missteps and they win, So to me, it means that
Speaker 1: they should have more more credibility. At five on average, right,
Speaker 1: they're at five on average? Right, am? I correct g
Speaker 1: six on average because it's five and it's and it's
Speaker 1: still good. It's still good. All right. Let's take our
Speaker 1: first break. They barely missing the college playoffs. Don't worry,
Speaker 1: but they barely missed. They got a few weeks to
Speaker 1: get to move up. Let's hit our break. Should Lell
Speaker 1: Collins get his starting job back? Oh yeah, we need
Speaker 1: to talk about this. Dak Prescott's calf strain, We'll dive
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Speaker 1: free agents who playing for the Cowboys. Both men have
Speaker 1: Super Bowl rings on their fingers. Let's dive into the
Speaker 1: fact that Cowboys are want to buy but Lell Collins's
Speaker 1: back should he get his jobs at starting by tackle,
Speaker 1: Nate Us talk with you. Okay, let me say this first,
Speaker 1: your guys, you know the power rankings. Ain't got y'all
Speaker 1: jumped off the cliff five. I save y'all, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll pull y'all back off. Okay, now back to the
Speaker 1: more important things. Let's don't play. See, let's don't play
Speaker 1: you you miss Gilmore and let him go to the Panthers. Don't.
Speaker 1: Let's don't miss only. Okay, this is our player, our
Speaker 1: all Pro Pro Bowl right tackle. That's don't miss this, dude,
Speaker 1: don't play. I don't think he's made a problem. He
Speaker 1: should have last year or two years ago. He should
Speaker 1: have headed for this year. Yeah, so du human, don't play.
Speaker 1: We had like we don't ran up on some Super Bowls,
Speaker 1: some NFC championship games. We just removed from having the
Speaker 1: worst defense in America last year. Okay. And this offense
Speaker 1: is what helps this defense do good. Even though Diggs
Speaker 1: is turning this thing over like he's doing and Randy
Speaker 1: Gregor is finding his sea legs, that's don't fool it now.
Speaker 1: It's still an offense that's gonna make this click. So
Speaker 1: you need to be able to be now you're not
Speaker 1: fortuning the thirteen personnel sixty percent of the time. If
Speaker 1: you have Lyell, you can put an extra skill position.
Speaker 1: God there to say, you know, so that's don't play.
Speaker 1: Lyell is your man at right. He gives this team attitude.
Speaker 1: He's he's there. Eric Williams, come on, now, I agree
Speaker 1: with that. I didn't know it so mean, yeah, I
Speaker 1: did not know he had that kind of hostility, that
Speaker 1: kind of violence. Man, this guy. I saw him against Tampa,
Speaker 1: how well he played. He was headed for a Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl year. I think I don't know what the heck
Speaker 1: went down in regards to these tests. But you know,
Speaker 1: when you talk about this team, the only way he
Speaker 1: might clash a little bit. This is a team full
Speaker 1: of high character. You know, you gotta show you got
Speaker 1: character on the squad. Even Zeke had to kind of
Speaker 1: calm down, say, look, you know what need to follow
Speaker 1: my quarterback. I need to follow my Mary Cooper and
Speaker 1: these guys and be able to carry myself as a professional.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you just don't want any drama. And
Speaker 1: with loud Collins, every time we're looking up with this deal,
Speaker 1: there's some drama coming up about rumor this rumor adding
Speaker 1: what he did well, if we could just put all
Speaker 1: that behind us, when he comes back, he won't be
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons. You know, he won't have it. He won't
Speaker 1: be tripping over the bottom lip in practice. I want
Speaker 1: to make sure when he comes back, he's come back
Speaker 1: way to play and everybody's with open arms waiting on him. Man,
Speaker 1: he still needs to step right back into his starting position.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Jerry Jones was asked about
Speaker 1: that on his show on one or five three the
Speaker 1: Fan today in the Cowboys Hall of Fame, owner didn't
Speaker 1: say yes. Mike McCarthy was asked about it yesterday. He
Speaker 1: didn't just come out and say yes. I think they
Speaker 1: also want to respect what Terrence still is done. That's
Speaker 1: what I was gonna ask you, what's gonna What do
Speaker 1: you think about Still? Yeah? I respect what he's done,
Speaker 1: and I respect that thirteen personnel, and I respect them
Speaker 1: extra all that extra help he's getting my boy Lyle,
Speaker 1: so you can do something else with these receivers, and
Speaker 1: you can do something else for these titles. I gotta
Speaker 1: keep it real, man, I gotta keep it real. But
Speaker 1: call see, I got a mission after this see when
Speaker 1: we go fourteen and whatever. Thirteen I got flags to
Speaker 1: play on people's stadiums, and I can't have you messing
Speaker 1: that up. You guys are former players, and this is
Speaker 1: just how I see it. He was your starting right
Speaker 1: tackle for reasons. Yes, he's a better player. You're going
Speaker 1: to get a better player back. Terren Steele did an
Speaker 1: outstanding job. There are a lot of questions going in.
Speaker 1: He checked out all the marks and he has done
Speaker 1: something that the Cowboys are probably with the last six
Speaker 1: seven years trying to do find a swing tackle. Right
Speaker 1: We saw Tyron Smith have to leave the game when
Speaker 1: he left New England. They started sending some heat and
Speaker 1: you saw there was some challenges there. He gets back
Speaker 1: in the game, it helps, So in my opinion, Collins
Speaker 1: goes back to right tackle. We got tiring it left
Speaker 1: still beyond standby and it's seventeen games. You're gonna playing
Speaker 1: eleven games in a row after the bye week, so hey, um,
Speaker 1: just just be happy you have some depth. I love
Speaker 1: the Death, man, I love the Death. Well you I mean, wow, Louis,
Speaker 1: you came with it. Yeah, I like that. I love
Speaker 1: I love the Death. Like you said, he's our starting guy.
Speaker 1: He always was. We brought him here for that. We
Speaker 1: were lucky to get him in the first place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I go back to when you play, when you had
Speaker 1: a backup like Kevin Gogan now became a valuable piece, Yes,
Speaker 1: and then when you had John John valuable piece who
Speaker 1: ends up in having to step in from Mark Stepnoski me.
Speaker 1: You need that kind of depth along the way. That's
Speaker 1: that's what you need. People forget that Super Bowl thirty year.
Speaker 1: Larry Brown wasn't starting sitting on the bench. It was
Speaker 1: Dion Sander and Pup Keith Pup went down Sunday night.
Speaker 1: It was game. It was a Sunday night if I'm
Speaker 1: not listening, game. And and yes, and so you needed
Speaker 1: Larry Brown who ended up getting the two Super Ups.
Speaker 1: And you never let you never gave Larry Brown a break, didgit? No, No,
Speaker 1: you clowned him when he made a play. Yeah. A
Speaker 1: nice guy, man, I ain't bought them guys. Man, that
Speaker 1: was no you, that was your boy to pick on.
Speaker 1: You enjoyed watching him do well because he was one
Speaker 1: of those guys everybody pulled forward. Wow. So I remember
Speaker 1: him coming to me quick store. I remember him coming
Speaker 1: to me, uh, doing training campus first year and he's like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about leaving man because he was one of
Speaker 1: them guys, I'm doing this for my mama. I'm doing
Speaker 1: I'm I'm build my mama house and all that. And
Speaker 1: I told him, I said, son, I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: This ain't this ain't TCU. I mean the dudes, it
Speaker 1: don't put it on you. Yeah, buddy, and uh And
Speaker 1: when and when you get a bad day with somebody,
Speaker 1: them beat your head and you ain't even think about
Speaker 1: your mama. You can be thinking about pol little you.
Speaker 1: So you better decide whether you want coming into that
Speaker 1: locker room. Yeah, you better decide whether you and knew
Speaker 1: right after you got toasted. Hey, he looked kind of crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he he made him and I and I and
Speaker 1: he's a great businessman. He's a great businessman. He's doing well.
Speaker 1: He got he's doing well by his kids and for
Speaker 1: other kids as well. Larry Brown. Wow, let's dive into
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. The quarterback Mike McCarthy yesterday met with the
Speaker 1: media and said, yes, it is a calf string for
Speaker 1: Daka to take the rest of the week off to
Speaker 1: get rested. Then on Monday, they'll re evaluate. Dak says,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be fine. Um. He always says that he
Speaker 1: said that after you broke his ankle. I mean he's so.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm good. I love him, nd he good court.
Speaker 1: John Grew Yeah, I just I just hope that he's
Speaker 1: not those players that we would hurt his team. You know,
Speaker 1: can I say somebody grew the situation? Say somebody grew
Speaker 1: the situation. I know my black people are gonna be
Speaker 1: mad at me. They're gonna be upset. Coach gruten This
Speaker 1: from Nate Knew, No, fat guy. I hope you really
Speaker 1: don't feel what you've expressed in these emails. I forgive you, brother,
Speaker 1: I forgive you man. I'm sorry you lost your job.
Speaker 1: This is what happens when you make mistakes of that magnitude.
Speaker 1: You were powerful man. But brother, I hope you really
Speaker 1: don't feel that way. And when however, I see you again,
Speaker 1: I want to be able to hug you and brother,
Speaker 1: they love Okay, Coach Grew for the thing, You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to forgive more than just John Bruton. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: know other people out there ye right now. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: are emails now because they're already out there. But but
Speaker 1: see if the thing about it is I kind of
Speaker 1: knew coach Gruton and we always had a good relationship.
Speaker 1: I just didn't know he was had some underlying issues
Speaker 1: like you know, the diabetes and all of that. That's
Speaker 1: you know, this is the interesting thing because Chris Sims
Speaker 1: had talked about it on his podcast. Chris played for
Speaker 1: him at Tampa back and John is the guy who man,
Speaker 1: I love that, and he talking man, Nate, I love
Speaker 1: you many many for super Bowls. Nate was a great guy.
Speaker 1: Man Nate walks away and then he's just John grew
Speaker 1: a fantass and I was stabbing. Yeah, but for me,
Speaker 1: he was too slow. Yeah, you know, that's that's what
Speaker 1: he knew. That He'll probably throw in some ethnic slurs.
Speaker 1: Sim he been eating too much fire chicken or something
Speaker 1: that Williams made him, you know player name lift they did,
Speaker 1: they did, they made me better. But that's that's what
Speaker 1: he would say. So there was so Gruten's you know,
Speaker 1: he's notorious for doing that. Sim said he heard him
Speaker 1: at one buck place through a wall talking cash noise
Speaker 1: about him. Oh man, and then he said another but
Speaker 1: maybe he was just that guy. He was so insecure.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing. That's a lot of coaches, but
Speaker 1: he goes in that way but a lot. And that's
Speaker 1: where Queen Kesha hated him. And Keishawan was that kind
Speaker 1: of guy where, yeah, he operated on Black folk code.
Speaker 1: If don't don't sit up here and tell me you
Speaker 1: like me, now hear you sitting every time, because then
Speaker 1: I got nothing to do with you because he was
Speaker 1: that way recruiting. He's like he knew how. He was like, man,
Speaker 1: don't come here me, don't talk to me, and they
Speaker 1: had that understanding. Yeah, I know what you're about. Don't
Speaker 1: come to me with that. Ever you like that too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I said, that's why I'm staring ahead black
Speaker 1: You know, John wants to come up here, and the
Speaker 1: man I was just I'm sorry you over here, so
Speaker 1: stay over here. And that's what John was. He ended
Speaker 1: up telling. He told one broadcaster. He told one broadcaster
Speaker 1: that Derek Carr man, he's such Yeah, and that's what
Speaker 1: the broadcaster told me. That's what he said about their card.
Speaker 1: That's documented. That's a document two years ago. Then he goes,
Speaker 1: I've been trying to tell you guys about him. This
Speaker 1: guy's and all pro this guy's my guy, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden things have changed. That was two years
Speaker 1: two years later, and those emails revealed so much of you.
Speaker 1: You coach grew. You had this perception and then the
Speaker 1: emails revealed the reality. But here's the thing for me,
Speaker 1: is I look at those emails there to Bruce Allen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't know anything that Bruce say, that's what I
Speaker 1: was talking about. That is yeah, but I heard that
Speaker 1: Bruce seeing you know what, look at Bruce. I don't know,
Speaker 1: mister Bruce Allen. Okay, I don't really know coach no
Speaker 1: more because he wasn't the guy that you thought he was.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm still you know, I have
Speaker 1: a reserve for certain people. I got a reserve for him,
Speaker 1: and and you know what, maybe he won't change, and
Speaker 1: maybe when I see him, he probably it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I really said it. I forget you at school too.
Speaker 1: I still got new as sounds, Nate. Let's just be real, guys,
Speaker 1: It's in It's in everybody, me, in everybody. So let's
Speaker 1: just stop acting like, oh man, I would never say, dude,
Speaker 1: it's in everybody, But you gotta have a damn sense
Speaker 1: to not to do on an email. Let's just be real, guys.
Speaker 1: Listen to everybody, and and so just stop with oh man,
Speaker 1: I will, I'm not there's not what do you say?
Speaker 1: That was not a blade a blade of racist a
Speaker 1: racist bone in my body? Now he said something about
Speaker 1: a blade like a blade of grass or something. It
Speaker 1: was he was really trying to break it down to
Speaker 1: whether that's not the one I owe a racism in him?
Speaker 1: That is a lie. Okay, Okay, every we all are visual.
Speaker 1: We all look at each other a certain way. I
Speaker 1: can think of a precuice on you, precuce on you. You
Speaker 1: You can look at me a certain way. But I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna sit up here in disrespect you because of that.
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna see any grant on that on
Speaker 1: an email. I'm gonna keep that to myself or within
Speaker 1: my close group. Okay, but we are still going to respect.
Speaker 1: Was it? Lyle was talking about it? Now you're the
Speaker 1: one broke off into this. Now you got me fired off.
Speaker 1: You you wanted to I said not to. Ever, No,
Speaker 1: you can't just I didn't want you can't do that.
Speaker 1: I wanted Nate just something that it's the players, it's
Speaker 1: the locker room. Baby, this is the locker room. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: coach Groom. You just got one the one guy on
Speaker 1: your side in this room. Okay, right, we were actually
Speaker 1: talking about that Dak and the cap straight. Yes, that's
Speaker 1: all right. So that's that's all right. I'm just hoping
Speaker 1: that so ok. I want just don't don't down itself
Speaker 1: even more. He's usually very smart obviously about we have.
Speaker 1: Because of what he's going through, I think he'll be okay.
Speaker 1: I think if there was something more, he wouldn't joke.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't joke because he knows the value of himself, right.
Speaker 1: So I'm quite sure he didn't stay in his mind
Speaker 1: into Brett and to Jim and to all those guys. Hey, man,
Speaker 1: before I go up here and do this little song
Speaker 1: and dance, you know, because you hey, what's the elephant?
Speaker 1: I mean, he opened up and if he if something
Speaker 1: roll this cat Mandak better be ducking because I'm coming
Speaker 1: from him. I might have some emails for that. I'll
Speaker 1: promise you. You've got to pick a Pro Bowl team
Speaker 1: of three Pro Bowl quarterbacks for the NFC. Don't do
Speaker 1: me like that. Don't do me like that, bro, Please,
Speaker 1: don't do me like that. Don't do me. I'm not
Speaker 1: answering that. Tyler Murray, Tom Brady, that's Stafford. But the
Speaker 1: hold on these these same pro focused guys that's ahead
Speaker 1: of him. Stop stop going back. I'm just naming. I'm
Speaker 1: just you see what I'm saying. Yeah, it's a core. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just naming them. So you know who are the
Speaker 1: three that's gonna that? This is my fcn NFC. No, No,
Speaker 1: this is just NFC. He's my all pro This is
Speaker 1: just no way. What's your pool three NFC? Yeah, just
Speaker 1: three dudes. We're not even talking Josh Allen, So take
Speaker 1: him out of there, Okay, take Buffalo out of there. No,
Speaker 1: not Lamar Jackson, No, Lamar Jackson. No, my hu's talking
Speaker 1: right here in the NFC. I mean Russell took a
Speaker 1: picture with my wife doing doing doing training camp. I
Speaker 1: don't do this, don't do it. I don't do that.
Speaker 1: Don't do that. She hugged all up on them with
Speaker 1: her on that. I bought. Ye, this it's going to
Speaker 1: be Oh, got more likes that week. It's going to
Speaker 1: be a tremendous decision that's made here, and I expect
Speaker 1: I expect one of the quarterbacks to be in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So that will open up another spot. Um,
Speaker 1: you got four that you just can't even deny, right
Speaker 1: you four that you can't deny, deserving alone, deserving Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray right now, Kyler Murray, Tom Brady, Matt Stafford, Aaron Rodger.
Speaker 1: I'm not putting staff in there, even though that's saying
Speaker 1: a lot deserve that you're not putting Stafford in there.
Speaker 1: That's saying to me to see, to me, that ain't right.
Speaker 1: What I'm just saying, here's and here's what that is.
Speaker 1: Where this thing was about this power rinking. Here's this
Speaker 1: is where I'll push up back on you a little
Speaker 1: bit on on Stafford. The head coach said, I can't
Speaker 1: do what I need with golf. Go get me this guy.
Speaker 1: You get me this guy. I can do what I
Speaker 1: need to do. And you know what they are five
Speaker 1: and one football team say it's more about golf than
Speaker 1: it does about Stafford. I think it says both because
Speaker 1: I think I think Matt Staffords had this type of
Speaker 1: talent for a long time, even just in a really
Speaker 1: bad there's no job about that. But he's playing, I
Speaker 1: mean about Pro Bowl. He's playing a pro Bowl level.
Speaker 1: All all of the guys we mentioned are playing at
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl level. And that's what I just brought up.
Speaker 1: You know, who, how do you? How do you? Okay?
Speaker 1: At this point, they're looking at QBR right, is that
Speaker 1: the ultimate stat is that the ultimate category for a
Speaker 1: number one quarterback for me as wins and losses and
Speaker 1: all of them five and one. So then if all
Speaker 1: of them five and one, then you got to go
Speaker 1: to another Yeah. Yeah, So I'm with Kyla. I'm with Kyla.
Speaker 1: I'm talking, well, this is more of all the Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford thing. I mean, this is just more than Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford things. So I'm looking at plastic argument. I can't
Speaker 1: even man. Dak Prescott had second QBR right, second best
Speaker 1: QBR I believe, and he one o eight. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would remember one or eight. I think Kyla's number one.
Speaker 1: I would have to just go by that once you
Speaker 1: have if it's so close, you have to pick a
Speaker 1: criteria to break the tie. As far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 1: it has to be QBR. It has to be you
Speaker 1: go back and think of what Dak was able to
Speaker 1: do this weekend and ever since you played for Bill Belichick. No,
Speaker 1: one has ever thrown for that mini yards four hundred
Speaker 1: and forty five against this man fifty one attempts thirty
Speaker 1: with his thirty eighth I mean you look at the
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he has been a machine this year.
Speaker 1: That was an off game. That was an off game
Speaker 1: for that finished the game with a one h eight
Speaker 1: point seven quarterback rating. Is thirty ninth career game with
Speaker 1: a hundred rating or better. That's the third most in
Speaker 1: NFL history through the first seventy five career stars for
Speaker 1: a player. He scored that touchdown when he went over,
Speaker 1: he scored. That was a touchdowns. So so so let's
Speaker 1: this is going to be a fantastic vote. And obviously
Speaker 1: there's a lot more football, but right here, October nineteenth,
Speaker 1: I look at these quarterbacks. I couldn't come up with
Speaker 1: with just three. You had a story about Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: and that whole background. So based on background, I mean,
Speaker 1: Dak would really clearly be the best quarterback based on
Speaker 1: the story, the story leading into this season, just like
Speaker 1: you had the story about Matthew Stafford, I need this quarterback.
Speaker 1: I can't win with anybody else. He comes in, he
Speaker 1: does exactly what his coach City would do Dak coming
Speaker 1: from last year, hadn't played for what eleven games? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: not just the games, the amount of time in between
Speaker 1: the off season. He comes back, hits the ground running.
Speaker 1: Does that make you? Does that make him number one?
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, It's got the story Aaron Rodgers. You know
Speaker 1: that's his own fault for not having any off season.
Speaker 1: The qrs, I mean, I mean, DA has a number one,
Speaker 1: number two QBR. You know what, Fellas, It's gonna end
Speaker 1: up being the people who who the quarterback who plays
Speaker 1: on the biggest stage, the Dallas cow Boys. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: if you look at who what Dak has played. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's had the CBS game what twice, he's head Monday
Speaker 1: Night Football, he had the opener. Everybody sees him. That's
Speaker 1: why he's going to get the votes. And he's with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Let's just face it, it's not just about
Speaker 1: the ego the Cowboys themselves that just there amongst themselves.
Speaker 1: This is this is this brilliant just because this is
Speaker 1: going to be a conversation and it's going to reveal
Speaker 1: itself more and more. All Right, we've got to get
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Speaker 1: the rest of the week off. So let's dive into
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, who is a free agent. After the season.
Speaker 1: You can look and talk about the two sacks that
Speaker 1: he had in the game. But one of the plays
Speaker 1: that Randy Gregory was a part of, which was critical
Speaker 1: of my opinion, was there was a touchdown negated because
Speaker 1: he was being held. Mac Jonals threw a touchdown pastor
Speaker 1: and they're all celebrating. Guess what, holding the man is
Speaker 1: doing everything that the Joneses we're hoping he could do.
Speaker 1: There's so many names here, there's so many people we
Speaker 1: talk about. His name gets lost in the shuffle. Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory is playing the best football of his career, and
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys cannot get a long term deal with him,
Speaker 1: you slap the franchise tack about eighteen million dollars your thoughts,
Speaker 1: Nate never we think you go, you know this this
Speaker 1: thing with Randy Gregory, Yes, it's more than football. I mean,
Speaker 1: this guy's going through a lot. You know, he's had
Speaker 1: his problems with you know, drug testing, and you know
Speaker 1: he keeps getting pushed back, his his progress keeps getting
Speaker 1: pushed back. And you just have to imagine. We always
Speaker 1: laud uh Dak Prescott on you know, what he went
Speaker 1: through and how strong he is as a person to
Speaker 1: be able to come through that. On the other end,
Speaker 1: you look at Randy Gregory. You know, when you're because
Speaker 1: one thing, when you got an injury, you know, but
Speaker 1: there's another thing when it's coming from you. You know,
Speaker 1: you have to fight yourself. You're your own biggest enemy.
Speaker 1: And this guy's come back through all of that when
Speaker 1: a lot of people would have given up. We're not
Speaker 1: talking about just one year. We talked about a couple
Speaker 1: two or three years where this man could have easily
Speaker 1: given up and people could have given up on him.
Speaker 1: And you could just imagine sometimes sitting up late at
Speaker 1: night by himself, you know, thinking about what his life
Speaker 1: is going to be like a bout a year ago,
Speaker 1: two years ago, and now here he is not just
Speaker 1: seems to be a whole person, but he's also balling.
Speaker 1: That's really the ultimate respect you have to give to
Speaker 1: a man who's been through a lot that really has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with football. When nobody else can help
Speaker 1: you but yourself, persever it's amazing person. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: it started but the Panthers game. He started coming home
Speaker 1: before that, but the Panthers game he opened it up.
Speaker 1: And you know, last two or three games, I think
Speaker 1: he's had four or five sacks and multiple games twice
Speaker 1: and so the holding the kid is the kid is
Speaker 1: he's off the chain right now. And you know, thank
Speaker 1: God for Queen on Sometimes some of the people that
Speaker 1: he was connected with. It was trying to help him
Speaker 1: get back. Man. In some of the situation when I
Speaker 1: just think, Man, I'm not gonna say anything because it
Speaker 1: wasn't brought to me that way. But some of the
Speaker 1: places he was not only in his mind, but I'm
Speaker 1: talking about physical places he was. Man, I'm like, and
Speaker 1: if he can hold on, man, if he's got the
Speaker 1: right people around him, you know, because you mentioned eighteen
Speaker 1: million dollars, come on, man, guarantee, please have the people
Speaker 1: in place, Randy, to help you help yourself. Because at
Speaker 1: the pace you're going, you're gonna get to those eight, nine,
Speaker 1: maybe ten sacks. You're gonna continue to change games like
Speaker 1: you not only got that holding, but they was coming.
Speaker 1: They was moving that ball. When he got that sack fumble,
Speaker 1: he when is the last time we have had a
Speaker 1: player where we said, oh, man, if they scored here,
Speaker 1: this could be a true, true dog fight. And he
Speaker 1: came round that edge and blistered this kid. And you
Speaker 1: saw when he made him fumble it by Lawrence Taylor
Speaker 1: because the quarterback kind of stayed there like what just happened?
Speaker 1: Where I'm looking at it and I wanted to think
Speaker 1: what you was thinking. I'm like, we now have to
Speaker 1: pay this kid what he's been. So this ain't like
Speaker 1: taking Lawrence. A man pay taking Larrence his money. Because
Speaker 1: when you get somebody eighteen million dollars, you started talking
Speaker 1: about face of the defense, a face of the franchise.
Speaker 1: What has he been through? What is his history? Man?
Speaker 1: They help yourself, my friend, however you do it, help yourself,
Speaker 1: and it's just more. It's more to him than that
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars, you know, And once again, U, certain
Speaker 1: things have to happen for you to take that next step. Yes,
Speaker 1: and Quinn coming here, Coach Quinn coming here, I think
Speaker 1: was a god send for him because this defense is
Speaker 1: made for him. The defense is made for Randy Gregory. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Randy Gregory has an opportunity, in my opinion, to
Speaker 1: get even better because Tank Lawrence comes back and teams
Speaker 1: are going to have to account for two guys and
Speaker 1: you're gonna have once again we talk about offensively picked
Speaker 1: your poison. Defensively, they got to pick their poison when
Speaker 1: it comes to these defensive ends and guys coming off
Speaker 1: the edge here. So and then parsons are really grow
Speaker 1: and because they'll move him strictly the linebacker and he
Speaker 1: can really get back to growing. The amount of pressure
Speaker 1: that they could create with those three players here is tremendous.
Speaker 1: And with Digs playing the way he's playing back, I
Speaker 1: mean there's a lot of positives of what this defense
Speaker 1: could be. So it's like they said they got to
Speaker 1: work on it. They got after they got to look
Speaker 1: at it because we're still giving up too many yards,
Speaker 1: too many average. So you did listen to what the
Speaker 1: great okay, greatness, I appreciate. It gets back into getting
Speaker 1: more players back. Can you get a Neville Gallimore back?
Speaker 1: It's Tristan Hill gonna return. I mean just just just yeah,
Speaker 1: we didn't think about Neville. Neville is a kid that
Speaker 1: I think if he comes back the way he left, man,
Speaker 1: this defense can do nothing. But this is the thing
Speaker 1: that's so funny is you forget about Neville and there's
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill two years, three years removed from being a
Speaker 1: second round pig. Yeah, I'm still waiting. Everybody's still a waiting.
Speaker 1: That's the depth that we have. Though when he went
Speaker 1: out last year, he was one of their better defensive tackles.
Speaker 1: So we talk about eleven games in a row after
Speaker 1: the buy here, you're going to need depth, so Brown
Speaker 1: working to get these guys back. The Cowboys can be
Speaker 1: can have some reinforcements, especially in the middle, because you
Speaker 1: saw how New England attack the Cowboys running the football
Speaker 1: right there, get some guys there. Everybody can help you there.
Speaker 1: Um Also Diggie Woosa, who we've all looked at him. Man,
Speaker 1: what a really good rookie year. When I was a
Speaker 1: training campy, you and I were there, he was strictly
Speaker 1: a backup. Nobody was thinking of him in that faction
Speaker 1: because Gallimore was playing that well and Watkins was playing
Speaker 1: that well. So I look at this football team to say,
Speaker 1: the pieces that are coming back here, they have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to get better. All right, guys. Uh, that that
Speaker 1: flew by real quick. Yeah, that flew by real quickly.
Speaker 1: We don't have when I'm just you know, I want
Speaker 1: to say this quickly. I'm glad that I was able
Speaker 1: to pull you guys off the clifford over some power
Speaker 1: rankings and uh. And then it took Everson a whole
Speaker 1: show that knowledge that I would write. So no, not
Speaker 1: to brag on my I didn't say you were correct.
Speaker 1: I just said I agreed with you on a point,
Speaker 1: just that point. Overall, though, Now what I did there
Speaker 1: as a host, right is I took something I didn't
Speaker 1: tell either one of you about. I knew it would
Speaker 1: be engaging. Okay, you're great. I knew we would have
Speaker 1: debate and we have a war winning. That's all that
Speaker 1: was designed to do. And YouTube fell right into this podcast.
Speaker 1: Gave me a whole segment on it. That's how you
Speaker 1: knock it out. We'll be back tomorrow one thirty again. Yes, last,
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