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Speaker 2: I don't want to alarm anyone tonight or tomorrow if

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Speaker 1: But look, we're ten saturdays away.

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Speaker 2: This upcoming Saturday, we are single digit saturdays away.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So our numbers are about to start going up.

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Speaker 2: talk about. We've got a Jampack show tonight. I have

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Speaker 2: high atop a steamy downtown Nashville, Tennessee. Happy Father's Day

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four. I saw some there's no other way

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Speaker 2: I don't normally traffic in such low hanging fruitlistical type content,

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Speaker 2: some unpopular takes on the show tonight. I got bold

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Speaker 2: predictions recruiting scoop, how about that? Yeah, I've been looking

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Speaker 2: packed show. They're watching us in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, Frederick, Maryland, Moultrie, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: Kick Extra podcast on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: So just a small little programming note there at Late Kick, Josh,

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, whatever does happen, we'll probably make its

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Speaker 2: Before that, Before that, I have several bones to pick tonight.

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Speaker 2: So loudest college football, State's most hostile college football stadiums,

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Speaker 2: I just want to go with the loudest. I want

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Speaker 2: don't care about your decibel readings. I don't care about

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Speaker 2: I've been to most of these places for the biggest games.

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Speaker 2: So backstory, I'm watching this list circulate the other day

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Speaker 2: And I'm looking and all due respect to some of

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Speaker 2: The day they beat Alabama in twenty twenty two, loudest

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Speaker 2: I could pay to that day Sharon Moore's team. What

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Speaker 1: It's a big problem our sport right now. Friends.

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Speaker 2: Big problem college football is allowing media companies to pay

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Speaker 2: I digress Penn State specifically, the white out environment unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: Pull it off very, very pridefully. They pull it off.

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Speaker 2: You can do your list if you want to, and

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Speaker 2: what they in a sanitized way, have what they would

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Speaker 2: Either you don't like Auburn or you've never been to

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Speaker 2: You cannot manufacture the kind of hunger which leads to

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Speaker 2: Been there for the white out at Penn State, or

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show tonight. Happy to have you with us.

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Speaker 2: I know that we'll get one hundred percent agreement across

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Speaker 2: what was it? It was the nineteen seventy four Ohio.

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Speaker 2: I was listening to a Woody Hayes interview and got

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Speaker 2: Anything further in terms of technological advancement actually means you're

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Speaker 2: But I ask you, friends, does this esthetic not do

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Speaker 2: and it's twenty twenty four. So if we can still

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Speaker 2: have that absence of technology, why not voluntarily have it

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Speaker 2: on pregame and halftime in postgame. I floated this to

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Speaker 2: the powers that be at CBS. It got shot down

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Speaker 2: in five nanoseconds, and it's a shame. It is an

436
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Speaker 2: absolute shame because I, at least for a throwback Saturday,

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Speaker 2: I think it would do numbers.

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Speaker 1: I really do.

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Speaker 2: Next up, we continue with the biggest questions in the

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Speaker 2: sport this year.

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Speaker 1: So I got one. I got a big one.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, community, I've got a big question here. Clemson's

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Speaker 2: passing game in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Is it enough? Is it enough? They hired Garrett Riley

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Speaker 1: last year.

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Speaker 2: It was one of the biggest moves in the coaching carousel,

447
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Speaker 2: and I don't think it was overblown. I think it

448
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Speaker 2: really was. They were bad, well, they were not good

449
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Speaker 2: last year. Offensively, they were sixty first passing offense. They

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Speaker 2: were one hundred and ninth in explosive passes. They were

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Speaker 2: one h nine or worse in passes of twenty thirty

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Speaker 2: and forty yards. So they just didn't move the ball

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Speaker 2: down the field enough. They fumbled the ball a lot,

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Speaker 2: they turned it over a lot. And Garrett Riley. The

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Speaker 2: thing about it is at TCU, he had just been

456
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Speaker 2: top ten or better in every one of those metrics.

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Speaker 2: So it's I think on one hand, it's fair to

458
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Speaker 2: expect their run game to be improved this year. They

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Speaker 2: were inconsistent. They battled injuries on the offensive line last year.

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Speaker 2: I think offensive line play will improve greatly this year. Also,

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Speaker 2: they kind of sneakily brought Matt Luke in. Matt Luke

462
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Speaker 2: is one of the best offensive line coaches in America,

463
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Speaker 2: and he had just kind of he kind of faded

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Speaker 2: into the background. He was he was a head coach

465
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Speaker 2: at ol Miss, and he was an on line coach

466
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Speaker 2: at Georgia and just decided I won't to step away

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Speaker 2: from this for a little while. That doesn't mean he

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Speaker 2: forgot how to coach offensive line. And Dabo convinced him

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Speaker 2: to come to Clemson, and I don't think most people

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Speaker 2: remember that happened. So that he's killed it like Dabo's

471
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Speaker 2: killed it two years in a row with coaching acquisitions.

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Speaker 2: Now you got to do it on the field. So

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Speaker 2: forty three rush yards per game last year. Look, the

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Speaker 2: offensive line will improve. I think everything else will improve

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Speaker 2: behind it. The reason that I paused there is because

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Speaker 2: I wrote a stat down. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: guys ever do this on your own live shows. There

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Speaker 2: is a stat written in front of me. I wrote it.

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Speaker 2: It's my hand writing, and I have no clue what

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Speaker 2: it means, but I'm sure it's accurate. Like producer Jesse

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Speaker 2: would not feed me false information. I don't think but

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it means. So anyway, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: scratch through that. Here's what I do know. They film

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Speaker 2: Offa's back. That's a workhorse running back behind an improved

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Speaker 2: offensive line. So the ground game, I'm fine with you

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Speaker 2: telling me that's going to improve. But why did you

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Speaker 2: bring Garrett Riley in? You brought him in for explosivity.

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Speaker 2: You brought him in to push the ball down the field,

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Speaker 2: and some of that falls on him. A lot of

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Speaker 2: it falls on the guy who has the football in

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Speaker 2: his hands every play, and that's kay Klubnick. And he

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Speaker 2: was under two hundred and twenty five passing yards three

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Speaker 2: four or five seven times last year.

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Speaker 1: It's just not good enough.

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Speaker 2: They turned the ball over a lot, he got sacked

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Speaker 2: twenty eight times. So it's not all on him. No

497
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Speaker 2: one person's shouldering the blame there. But this is a

498
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Speaker 2: really solid staff. It's an excellent program. It's a really

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Speaker 2: buttoned down operation. How much improvement can I expect? How

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Speaker 2: much is fair to expect? Because you got Florida State

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Speaker 2: as the odds on favorite to win the conference, Clemson's

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Speaker 2: right behind them, Miami's right behind them, and then Louisville

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Speaker 2: n C State.

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Speaker 1: But they're all plus six hundred or better odds.

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Speaker 2: So that's FanDuel and the odds making community flat out

506
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Speaker 2: telling you there's not an overwhelming favorite in this conference.

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Speaker 2: How much does that wide receiver room evolve Bryant West

508
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Speaker 2: cos the true freshman coming in TJ. Moore as well.

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Speaker 2: Expect a lot out of those guys. Tyler Brown's back,

510
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Speaker 2: Brennick Stool the tight end. I think it's overlooked a

511
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Speaker 2: little bit nationally, but he's a very dependable weapon at

512
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Speaker 2: tight end. There are reasons to believe here, in true

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Speaker 2: Rod Stewart fashion, there are reasons to believe. I'm not

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Speaker 2: asking will they improve statistically, it's almost a guarantee to

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Speaker 2: me they will.

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Speaker 1: How much will they improve?

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Speaker 2: I think Dabo would tell you if we do nothing

518
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Speaker 2: but eliminate the turnovers, we've improved enough. I'm going to

519
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Speaker 2: go a little bit further than that. To win this thing,

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Speaker 2: to win the ACC, to make the playoff, there needs

521
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Speaker 2: to be improvement. It's fully capable of happening. So that's

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Speaker 2: one question for the ACC in college football this fall. Now,

523
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Speaker 2: I give Director Colin time to hit his reset button.

524
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Speaker 2: He already did it. No more time to pause here.

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Speaker 2: Next question, are there legitimate sleeper teams in the SEC?

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Speaker 2: Because we've got a very very unique situation down there.

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Speaker 2: What qualifies as a sleeper? So right now, if you

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Speaker 2: look over at FanDuel, they have seven teams in this

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Speaker 2: conference with a win total over underwent total of nine

530
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Speaker 2: and a half or higher. So that's Georgia, Texas, Bama, LSU, Ole,

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Speaker 2: miss Missouri, Tennessee. And then you got a second layer

532
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Speaker 2: of A and M in Oklahoma and Auburn and so

533
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Speaker 2: on and so forth. So obviously, if Alabama wins the conference,

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Speaker 2: they're not a sleeper. LSU is not a sleeper to

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Speaker 2: win the conference. Missouri to me, even though they've got

536
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Speaker 2: the exact same win total as those teams. This is

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Speaker 2: different because my criteria for being a sleeper team is

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Speaker 2: if you win the conference, is the college football public

539
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Speaker 2: going to be surprised? And I don't care that they're

540
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Speaker 2: over under win totals nine and a half? You know,

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Speaker 2: good and well, if you live in in Salina, Kansas,

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Speaker 2: or if you live in Olympia, Washington, you're just a

543
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Speaker 2: college football fan, but you don't really follow these teams

544
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Speaker 2: in the South. Intimately, you know goodwell. If Missouri wins

545
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Speaker 2: the SEC, it's gonna make you say, whoa wow. Bama

546
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Speaker 2: wouldn't do that to you. LSU probably would not do

547
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Speaker 2: that to you because you've seen him do it before.

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Speaker 2: You hadn't seen Missouri do it before. Eleventh in S

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Speaker 2: and P plus. Entering the season, they are seventeenth and

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Speaker 2: returning production. Got a really good quarterback wide receiver Combo

551
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Speaker 2: Brady Cook comes back, Luther Burden. They held on to

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Speaker 2: him and he's going to be a focal point of

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Speaker 2: their offense and one of the best pass catchers in America.

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Speaker 2: And also, I think they backfilled it running back really

555
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: really nicely. And I also think they backfilled defensively on

556
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Speaker 2: their coaching staff really nicely. Boston College is on their schedule,

557
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Speaker 2: new coaching staff, there A and M new coaching staff,

558
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Speaker 2: Mississippi State new staff, Bama new staff. They only face

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Speaker 2: one team with a preseason win total of nineine and

560
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Speaker 2: a half or higher, and that's Alabama. They don't face Texas,

561
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Speaker 2: they don't face Georgia, So you want to label a sleeper.

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Speaker 2: Even though they won eleven games, I think it was

563
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Speaker 2: last year. I still think Missouri is a sleeper because

564
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Speaker 2: they won the thing. It would take people by surprise.

565
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Speaker 2: And another one which I get accused of going to

566
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Speaker 2: the well of every year, but I'm gonna do it again,

567
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Speaker 2: is Kentucky. Kentucky's probably got a little bit higher ceiling

568
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Speaker 2: than they normally do. Like normally, Kentucky's floating in that

569
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Speaker 2: six to six and a half over underwin range, but

570
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Speaker 2: the ceiling is seven or eight.

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Speaker 1: It's what it feels like, and maybe it is.

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Speaker 2: Again, I feel like the ceiling is a tick higher,

573
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Speaker 2: and it's because of the experience they return. All of

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Speaker 2: this is contingent on Brock Vandergriff being a B plus

575
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Speaker 2: or a better caliber quarterback, and they got him out

576
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Speaker 2: of Georgia via the transfer portal. They returned four offensive

577
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Speaker 2: linemen with fifteen plus starts. Every starter on this offensive

578
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: line will be an upperclassman. They lost zero starts on

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Speaker 2: the defensive line. So I'm just gonna stop there.

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Speaker 1: For a second.

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Speaker 2: I got a lot of folks who hop in the

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Speaker 2: comment section. I got a lot of folks who hop

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Speaker 2: in the replies, and they say, well, this is a

584
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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage game, this is a line of scrimmage league,

585
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Speaker 2: and you're right, and I.

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Speaker 1: Just quoted both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Some very interesting numbers there, some very interesting factoids, and

588
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: yet that same group, we'll try and dismiss it because

589
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: it's Kentucky. You don't have to do it just because

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Speaker 2: it's Kentucky. They got a couple of safeties with twenty

591
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Speaker 2: plus starts corner. I think a little bigger question for them,

592
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Speaker 2: But they got back to back top twenty five portal

593
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Speaker 2: classes there, and three of their last five recruiting classes

594
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Speaker 2: have been in the top twenty five. If Brod Vandergriff

595
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Speaker 2: plays above average or better football for them elsewhere, they've

596
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Speaker 2: got a lot of the questions they would normally have

597
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,239
Speaker 2: already answered before. We have to deal with injury, and

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Speaker 2: no one predicts injury, and no one can forecast that

599
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: there is, by the way, in the sec before I

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Speaker 2: move on, there is a there's a kind of dream

601
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: scenario that could also be a nightmare scenario. So I

602
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: think if you're Greg Sanki or the league office or whatever,

603
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: your dream scenario would be, all right, Let's have all

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Speaker 2: these teams with the over underwin totals of nine and

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Speaker 2: a half or better, all of them play at that level,

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Speaker 2: and then a Texas A and M or an Auburn

607
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Speaker 2: or an Oklahoma or a Kentucky. Couple of those teams

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Speaker 2: pop as well. They all play at or above the caliber.

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Speaker 1: That Vegas expects them to.

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Speaker 2: Well, that sounds great, could be a problem because not

611
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Speaker 2: all of them can win the games. Like for every

612
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Speaker 2: conference game, you gotta have a winner and a loser.

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Speaker 2: So it could be a situation where because you have

614
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Speaker 2: so many good teams, you got someone playing ten win

615
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Speaker 2: caliber ball that ends up eight and four. Now, as

616
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Speaker 2: long as a few teams separate, that's not a problem

617
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Speaker 2: for you when it comes playoff committee selection time. But

618
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Speaker 2: what if it totally cannibalizes itself. What if your conference

619
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Speaker 2: cannibalizes itself and the best you've got is you've got

620
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Speaker 2: a ten and two or an eleven and two conference

621
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Speaker 2: champ that emerges and then they deal their opponent their

622
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: third loss, and you just got a bunch of three

623
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Speaker 2: and four loss just jumbled up mess as your conference standings,

624
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Speaker 2: and the committee decides to go full on.

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Speaker 1: You are what your record says you are mode.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that'll happen, but it's not out of

627
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Speaker 2: the realm of possibility, because if Georgia's defensive line or

628
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Speaker 2: Texas's defensive line do not elevate those teams to elite,

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Speaker 2: the rest of that group there probably does not have

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Speaker 2: high level elite potential this year. The high end for

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Speaker 2: an Alabama or an Ole Miss or an LSU, to.

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Speaker 1: Me is really really good. That's my feel on those teams.

633
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Speaker 2: Georgia and Texas probably have top end elite capability, but

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Speaker 2: if they don't pan out on the defensive line, there's

635
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Speaker 2: not an elite elite team, an unbeatable team in other words,

636
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Speaker 2: on that list, and you could have total utter carnage

637
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Speaker 2: in the SEC. And then you've got the committee with

638
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Speaker 2: a real dilemma on their hands. How do we turn

639
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: Britta nine and three in the SEC? Certainly, how do

640
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: you interpret eight and four? You're not putting a four

641
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Speaker 2: lost team in the playoff. They lost a third of

642
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: their games. They're not going you are what your record

643
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: says you are, after all. So we'll we'll deal with

644
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: that when the time comes. And time probably won't come.

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Speaker 1: But but it could. It could. Father's Day came.

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Speaker 2: I told you guys last week one of my bold

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Speaker 2: The models off to a very good start, and I

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Speaker 2: So thank you guys for perusing over at Academy or

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Speaker 2: We don't have to because of partners like Academy, and

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Speaker 2: And if n't get there in person, Academy dot com

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Speaker 2: to la I'll be I'll be out there a few

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Speaker 2: days in the middle of the week. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: out there tomorrow. And I always struggle with how to

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Speaker 2: talk recruiting on the show. I grew up hardcore following recruiting,

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Speaker 2: and it's very strange what's happened, Colin. Don't include any

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Speaker 2: of this in the in the actual clip you put online.

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Speaker 2: So I thought, when I came to work here, I

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Speaker 2: would follow recruiting more hardcore than I ever have. But

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Speaker 2: it actually worked in the end verse and I still

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Speaker 2: to this day cannot explain why, but I still follow it.

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Speaker 2: But what happened was, as we got closer and further

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Speaker 2: into the NIL era, I trained my mind to not

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Speaker 2: pay a whole lot of attention on the front end,

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Speaker 2: because I just thought, well, the moves are gonna happen late,

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Speaker 2: and therefore, as long as I tune in late, then

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Speaker 2: I'll know what I need to know. By the way,

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Speaker 2: it's the same thing I fear happening to the sport

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Speaker 2: when you expand the playoff. But I digress, I digress.

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Speaker 2: So here here's what I feel happening. We've been through

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Speaker 2: a few years of INIL now both traditional and pay

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Speaker 2: for play style. The market has started to calibrate. Okay,

702
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: so that doesn't mean that that's going anywhere. But what's

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00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: happened is every staff has gotten their plan in place,

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Speaker 2: both offensive and defensive.

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean recruiting positions.

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Speaker 2: I mean the way they go attacker recruitment, the way

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Speaker 2: they try and hold off other suitors if they've got

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Speaker 2: a kid verbally committed, so no one's new to this

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Speaker 2: game anymore.

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Speaker 1: So. Slowly but surely.

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Speaker 2: A lot of the factors that used to win in

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Speaker 2: recruiting are bubbling back up to the surface as the

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Speaker 2: key indicators on where recruitment is going. Okay, now with

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Speaker 2: all that, Colin, here's your endpoint. We're in the heart

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Speaker 2: of recruiting season.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: What used to be the case in January, in December

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00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: is now the case in June and July. A bolt

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Speaker 2: majority of these guys are going to be committed before

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Speaker 2: the start of their senior years, and official visit season

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Speaker 2: is blowing up right now.

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Speaker 1: So is Ohio State. Ohio State's on fire.

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Speaker 2: They've got three of the top six kids in the

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Speaker 2: country verbally committed. Their average player rating is ninety four

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Speaker 2: point eighty four, which is illegal in several states. Fortunately

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Speaker 2: for them, it's it's good to go in Ohio. Tav

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Speaker 2: and Saint Clair, the quarterback they got committed sixty four

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Speaker 2: two twenty five.

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Speaker 1: He's way up there.

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Speaker 2: And then they got the number one and number two

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Speaker 2: corners in the country committed.

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Speaker 1: They've got Jesse.

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Speaker 2: I think we counted today sixteen commits. Fifteen of the

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Speaker 2: sixteen are blue chip guys, and they're not done. So again,

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Speaker 2: you've got some casual energy out there that's gonna tell you, well, let's.

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Speaker 1: Make or break this year for Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: If they don't get it done this year, when the

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Speaker 2: answer would be next year or the year after that

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Speaker 2: or the year after that. Because I can count, I

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Speaker 2: don't even need all my fingers to count on one

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Speaker 2: hand how many other programs are recruiting like Ohio State is.

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Speaker 2: And so maybe they'll win the national title this year.

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Speaker 2: I don't If they lose two games this year, the

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Speaker 2: way they recruit will have them right back year after

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Speaker 2: year after year. This is not a window program, and

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Speaker 2: this recruiting reflects that they continually stock the cupboard where

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Speaker 2: they take their best shot. They're going to put themselves

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Speaker 2: in contention, and if they don't do it this year,

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Speaker 2: then they'll have another shot next year and the year

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Speaker 2: after that. Insane class that is currently being constructed in

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Speaker 2: Columbus Ohio. Now I want to talk about what's happening

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Speaker 2: in LA because USC right now has the number seven

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Speaker 2: class in the country and it's really interesting. I've talked

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Speaker 2: to several of our guys about this because USC's class,

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Speaker 2: from a strategy standpoint, looks exactly.

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Speaker 1: How I want it to look.

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Speaker 2: I have longed for Lincoln Riley and USC to be

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Speaker 2: able to go out of the South, or to go

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Speaker 2: out of southern California and into the southern United States

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Speaker 2: and take big bodied players.

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Speaker 1: Well, on the surface, it looks good right now.

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Speaker 2: Not only do they have Julian Lewis, who's a five

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Speaker 2: star quarterback who's committed out of the state of Georgia.

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Speaker 2: They've got Isaiah Gibson, who is a sixty four to

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Speaker 2: two and forty five pound edge out of the state

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Speaker 2: of Georgia committed, and Justice Terry out of Manchester, Georgia

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Speaker 2: six five, two seventy five.

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Speaker 1: He's committed. All that's well and good.

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Speaker 2: No one is betting the farm that they stay committed

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Speaker 2: to USC out there right now. It's the it's the

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Speaker 2: million dollar question. It's can we hang on to them?

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Speaker 2: Because I can confidently tell you these are defensive players

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Speaker 2: in the state of Georgia that Kirby Smart and Georgia want.

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Speaker 2: They win those far more often than not. I don't

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00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: think there's an ounce of desperation or concern at Georgia.

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Speaker 2: I fully believe if you lie detected those folks that

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Speaker 2: tell you.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna land them, We'll get them.

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Speaker 2: And I think there's a I don't I don't want

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Speaker 2: to call it nervousness at USC, but there's a hyper

781
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: awareness that a verbal commit in this case, it means something,

782
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: but it doesn't mean nearly what would love it to mean.

783
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: And so they've they've got the first domino to fall.

784
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: They've got the verbal commits here, can keep them if

785
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 2: they do. Now, if they're able to keep them, then

786
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: it is a massive win for Lincoln Riley. They could

787
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Speaker 2: go undefeated or go eight and four this year in

788
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 2: recruiting terms, that would be a massive win. They're gonna

789
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: have to bear crawl over broken glass to keep those

790
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: guys because the N State school wants them, and the

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Speaker 2: N State School is not Rhode Island.

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Speaker 1: It happens to be the University of Georgia.

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Speaker 2: And when you can sell the kind of player development,

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Speaker 2: you know on that side of the ball that Georgia

795
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: can versus what USC is having to sell, which is

796
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: a vision of the future. USC is selling this new

797
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: defensive coaching staff and what they will be, and I

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00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 2: got no doubt they will be that. But you're still

799
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Speaker 2: having to sell a vision Georgia's just selling results, and

800
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: they're selling drive to the game instead of fly thirty

801
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: five hundred miles of the game. Like all that stuff

802
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: is always going to be a challenge for USC. The

803
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: only way to change it is to change it, and

804
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 2: the only way to change it is to get better

805
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: players and then play better on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: This whole Notre Dame recruitment with Deuce and Eye fascinates me.

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00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna, i believe, see him in person this week

808
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: out in La at E Leite eleven. This is a

809
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: high level quarterback four star right now. It wouldn't shock

810
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Speaker 2: me if he had a fifth star next to his name.

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Speaker 1: Down the road.

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Speaker 2: None of this, by the way, is intel I'm getting

813
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Speaker 2: from the recruiting team. I'm giving you my personal opinion

814
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: on this, and they don't let me factor into the rankings.

815
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Speaker 2: But he's sixty five to two oh five from Mississippi

816
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: and committed to Notre Dame and Ole miss wants him

817
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: bad and I I'm fascinated because it seems like Notre

818
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: Dame that they've got the I think the number three

819
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: class in the country right now, or number two.

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00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: Maybe they got a top five class.

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame is having to play defense for like so

822
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Speaker 2: many of their verbal commits. You know what that indicates

823
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: to me? That indicates they got a really good evaluation

824
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Speaker 2: staff there. They got in on guys early, they offered

825
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: him early, they got him to commit early, and then

826
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 2: everyone else realized, really good players. Notre Dame's got committed there,

827
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Speaker 2: Let's go after him. So does he remain committed? History

828
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 2: tells me no. History tells me a quarterback from Mississippi's

829
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: gonna stay in state. In fact, most elite players from Mississippi,

830
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna stay in state. And if they go somewhere,

831
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: it's gonna be like LSU or Alabama. Is Notre Dame

832
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 2: gonna hold on to him? Well, best I can tell.

833
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 2: With Deuce Night wired a little bit differently, I think

834
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: family sees things through a little bit different lens than

835
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: maybe your typical family would see it through. And I'm

836
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: saying that to say Notre Dame this year, Remember they

837
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 2: brought in Mike Denbrock as the new OC. If they

838
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: perform well this year offensively, and there's every reason to

839
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: believe they will, I don't know, man, I still think

840
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: my money would be on them However, everyone at all

841
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: miss thinks they've got a really good shot of flipping him,

842
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 2: So long way to go in that recruitment. Look at

843
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: the state of Alabama. Bama's number three in the country

844
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: right now, still waiting for the drop off post Saban

845
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 2: recruiting at Alabama, and number six is the Auburn Tigers.

846
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: The state of Alabama to me period close watching here,

847
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: I keep waiting.

848
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: I was told I was told it.

849
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 2: Would just be like one of those things called tumbleweeds.

850
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: I was told it would be tumbleweed vibe for Alabama

851
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: recruiting after Nick Saban left. And I don't know if

852
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 2: kids are just not aware that Caitlyn de Boor is

853
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 2: a new head coach, Like I don't know if they're unaware.

854
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: They keep committing, and so the train keeps rolling at Alabama.

855
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: They got number three class in the country right now,

856
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: ninety three point twenty one player average. They're probably on

857
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: the precipice of landing one or two more big ones

858
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: before this this next week is over. Staff's been killing it.

859
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 2: I mean, hats off to the entire Alabama staff there.

860
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: But then you hop on four p.

861
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Speaker 2: Fifty nine, Then you go down sixty five and then

862
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: you get on eighty five and you wind up in

863
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 2: Lee County at Auburn, and you say, yeah, so were

864
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: they though. And Auburn's loading up on the defensive side

865
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: of the ball. Their top six commits right now are

866
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 2: defensive guys. But everyone's focused on Julian Lewis. That's the

867
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: quarterback out of Georgia. He's committed to USC right now.

868
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: He took his official I think, to Auburn this weekend,

869
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: and you know, the whispers behind the scenes are that

870
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: that visit went very well. Got a few texts today

871
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 2: from some people at Auburn. Visit went very well, very

872
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: happy with how the visit went with Julian Lewis. So

873
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: I smile like this because I know it's major league

874
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: recruiting that Like, that's what you're doing. That's what USC

875
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: has gotten themselves into, recruiting kids like this from the South,

876
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: and this is what they're gonna have to fight. You

877
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: gotta fight Georgia, you gotta fight Auburn. This is what

878
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to do to hold on of those guys.

879
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: I don't Auburn could land him or not land him.

880
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: They got a good class either way, But I think

881
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 2: a lot of them internally are sort of counting on

882
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 2: either that or finding out where he stands pretty quickly

883
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: so that they can shift their attention to whoever their.

884
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: Next priority at quarterback is going to be.

885
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: I think you'll see some action on that front one

886
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: way or another pretty soon, and it needs to be.

887
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: You can't be going to the eleventh hour at the

888
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: quarterback position. You need to have your ducks in a

889
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: row there because a lot of people believe, and I

890
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 2: agree with this, that a lot of these recruiting classes

891
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: work downstream of the quarterback, and any quarterback worth his

892
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: or hersault needs to understand that and needs to get

893
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: in the.

894
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: Boat or firm up your commitment.

895
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 2: So either firm up your commitment to USC or jump

896
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: if you're going to jump somewhere because your coaching staff

897
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: needs to utilize you being in the fold to sell

898
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 2: to other prospects. This I don't think should be that difficult.

899
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: Texas A and M is just lurking too. Did you

900
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: notice when Director Colin had the top ten classes there

901
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: number eight Texas A and M. Jimbo Fisher was there

902
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: for a long time, and I know Jimbo Fisher and

903
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: Texas A and M landed mathematically the highest rated class

904
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,959
Speaker 2: of all time a couple of cycles ago, and yet

905
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: most of it's not there anymore. It was recruited a

906
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 2: much different way than Mike Elko recruits. Mike Elko had

907
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: to operate at Duke. What Mike Elco had to do

908
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: is he had to make sure everything was completely buttoned

909
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 2: down and fully leveraged in turns of scouting and evaluation.

910
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: And then in time you'll see the developmental piece. They

911
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: have that as well. But now what you have. You

912
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: got a combination of a guy who inherently and intimately

913
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: understands the scouting and evaluation process because he's had to.

914
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: But he's also had luxury placed in his lap, the

915
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 2: likes of which very few coaches have. And you blend

916
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: those two and what you could have as a recruiting

917
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: monster at Texas A and M. Not the kind that

918
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: lands impressive classes on paper, the kind that just lands

919
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: impressive classes. I'd much rather have an Elko class ranked

920
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: number four than what Jimbo brought in a couple of

921
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: years ago, is what I'm saying. They got a fourteen

922
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: commits right now, I think eleven of them are from

923
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: the state of Texas. They can identify talent as good

924
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 2: as anyone. They are organized as well as anyone. There

925
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 2: will be no wasted motion or movement or energy out there.

926
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 2: If I don't know how much you know how much

927
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: room you have in your portfolio, strongly encourage you to.

928
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: Buy stock in Mike elcho in Texas, A and m Now.

929
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: In fairness, I've bought most of it, but there may

930
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: be some available on the market.

931
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: Sto.

932
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma is tuned in tonight, Arvada, Colorado is

933
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: tuned in. And Lakeland, Florida. We appreciate you guys so much.

934
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: It's new.

935
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 2: We haven't done this on the show before, but I

936
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: have a sneaking suspicion that this segment I'm about to

937
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: tease here could end up being our most popular or

938
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: maybe even most fun segment that we have. So a

939
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, just I was messing around, didn't

940
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: have much to do. I don't let me take a

941
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: little sip of water here, I was messing around. I

942
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: didn't have much to do, as I was saying, And

943
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: normally this is like when I'm waiting in line at

944
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 2: Chick fil a or something like that.

945
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 1: I was fired off a tweet.

946
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,959
Speaker 2: I said, what is your most unpopular college football take?

947
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 2: And I put mine out. I can't what was it, Jesse,

948
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: I can't even remember what it was. Oh well, I'll

949
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: tell you what mine was.

950
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: So mine was.

951
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 2: I don't care if broadcast teams have bias. I don't care.

952
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: Like I think Herbstreet is totally neutral. If anything, I

953
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 2: think he intentionally leans away from Ohio State, or has

954
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: in the past, just to circumvent the lunatics out there

955
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: who yell homer no matter what. I wouldn't care if

956
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: Herbstreet was a total Buckeye homer. I wouldn't care if

957
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: McElroy was a total Bama homer. I as long as

958
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: you gave me an honest broadcast, I wouldn't care. I've

959
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: never cared about it. People get up in arms about

960
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: this stuff. They swear Gary Danielson is a homer and

961
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: hater simultaneously of every team in the SEC. And then

962
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: they say, yeah, but he really loves Bama. You mean,

963
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: because he spoke highly of the team that's dominated the

964
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: sport for a decade and a half. How else would

965
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: you have covered Alabama? But even if all the allegations

966
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: were true. My point is, I don't care. Just give

967
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: me a good broadcast. I don't care if you're a homer.

968
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: So that's my unpopular college football take.

969
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: One of them.

970
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 2: You guys, I still don't think are ready for another

971
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: one that I talked about having like a year ago,

972
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 2: and some of you heard me, and you keep saying, Hey,

973
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: you said you had a really unpopular take. When are

974
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: you gonna share it? I still am not ready to

975
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: share it. It has to do with the schedule. But

976
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: I'm as far as'm gonna go. I'm still not ready

977
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 2: to share it. But anyway, I asked you guys, give

978
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: me your most unpopular college football take. Colin, do we

979
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 2: have the one about the preseason rankings? Timothy Johnson said

980
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: preseason rankings, they just shouldn't exist. In fact, no rankings

981
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: should roll out until the first week of the CFP rankings.

982
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: Otherwise the whole nation's perception of teams is automatically biased

983
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 2: from existing rankings based on no real games. Okay, so

984
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: Timothy is saying any rankings out there before games have happened,

985
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 2: do away with them. They should be illegal. If we

986
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 2: elect Timothy King, he deems them illegal. Well, number one,

987
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: of course, it's impossible. This is almost something that goes

988
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 2: without saying it's impossible to do away with preseason rankankings,

989
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: even if everyone wanted to.

990
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: But let's say there is a world where.

991
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: It's possible to somehow snap your fingers or like presidential

992
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: executive order, and all of a sudden, you cannot do

993
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 2: preseason college football rankings anymore. Why does it matter what

994
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: the nation thinks? Has always been my follow up to this,

995
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: because Timothy is not alone in feeling this. I think

996
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: a lot of you feel this way, mainly the ones

997
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: of you who get victimized or you think your team

998
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: is too low in the rankings and they struggle to

999
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: climb the rankings all year, versus the teams that start

1000
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: the season ranked high and it seems like they've got

1001
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 2: to lose multiple games to fall out. I get all that,

1002
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: but my question has always been, if the committee is

1003
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 2: not impacted by that, what does it matter? And the

1004
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: follow up you give me is, well, the committee is

1005
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 2: impacted by it, to which my follow up is, you're

1006
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: mad at the wrong thing. Don't be mad at the

1007
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: preseason poll. Be mad that the committee was dumb enough

1008
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: to fall in line with it, like be mad that

1009
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 2: they didn't have the wherewithal to think independently. The polls

1010
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 2: are always going to be out there if you're right,

1011
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: and the committee is impacted by and swayed by what

1012
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: the public thinks, get new folks on the committee, get

1013
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 2: mad at the committee, which a lot of you then

1014
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: follow up and say, I am mad at the committee.

1015
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: Marriage to preseason rankings is the problem. Having preseason rankings

1016
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: is fine. I'll have a set of my own. I'll

1017
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: have my preseason power ratings. But here's what else I'll do.

1018
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: I will let one half of football in week one

1019
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: matter more in my preseason going into regular season ratings

1020
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 2: than the previous six months combined. Sure, I'll load all

1021
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 2: the unit rankings in there, and we'll put every bit

1022
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 2: of intel we can in there, and we'll go based

1023
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: on data based judgment as much as we can.

1024
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: But there's no substitute for football.

1025
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 2: Games that you and I agree on, Timothy, and so

1026
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: once the game start happening, you better be ready to

1027
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: pivot if you think that way preseason rank there's nothing

1028
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: wrong with preseason rankings. However, if you marry yourself to them,

1029
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: which early on in my process I was guilty of.

1030
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: That's your problem. You get so worked up on these takes,

1031
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: and you get emotion entered into the equation, and you

1032
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 2: go through July and August and you argue with your buddies,

1033
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 2: or you do all these talk radio hits and you

1034
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 2: have to defend your position. Well, then you get so

1035
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 2: prideful and you get so dug in that when a

1036
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: team you had ranked number three loses in week one,

1037
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 2: you drop them to like number six, and then they

1038
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 2: sputter in week two and they stay at six and

1039
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: all the while, if a team you had ranked twenty

1040
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: second did the same thing, you would never bump them up.

1041
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: Rankings are different than ratings. I intentionally do power ratings

1042
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: so I can get away with that sort of thing.

1043
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: But if I ranked.

1044
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 2: Teams and I had someone ranked sixth and they underperformed

1045
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 2: in week one, i'd I should be willing to drop

1046
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: them into the twenties, because that's how much football games

1047
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: should mean. But the committee should not be impacted by that,

1048
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 2: because the committee should have predetermined criteria that makes them

1049
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: blind to anything that anyone else thinks. That's always been

1050
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: my take on the whole do away with preseason polls thing. Also,

1051
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 2: they're fun. I just think they're fun. Next up, who buddy.

1052
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: So if you're listening on podcasts, I'm gonna try and

1053
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 2: do you as good a service as I can. Here,

1054
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 2: Justin Rod hit me his most popular or unpopular take, Colin,

1055
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that again because I want you to

1056
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: cut this for me. Justin Rod hit me his most

1057
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: unpopular college football take is, Ohio State is not the

1058
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 2: powerhouse the mainstream media has been pushing on the people.

1059
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: And then there's this whole list of things that honestly,

1060
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: I have no clue what he's saying.

1061
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: So I'll just go down the list.

1062
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 2: If you're listening on podcasts, close your eyes unless you're driving,

1063
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 2: and visualize this with me. So, he says, Ohio State

1064
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 2: is not the powerhouse the mainstream media builds them up

1065
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: to be. So the mainstream media, the mainstream CFB media,

1066
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: I guess me included just pure gaslighting you on Ohio State.

1067
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: The mainstream media has done nothing about Ohio State that

1068
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: Ohio State hasn't deserved to me, he says, like Natty

1069
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: or Bust, they won one in the past decade. So

1070
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 2: they literally have won one. He said, they can't beat

1071
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: their biggest rival. Wrong, they haven't in the past three years.

1072
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: Prior to that, they beat them fifteen out of sixteen

1073
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 2: in a row. So on that one, they can't beat

1074
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: their biggest rival. I just addressed that. He said they

1075
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 2: can't win an out of conference game. I was in

1076
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: South Bend last year, like literally less than a calendar

1077
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 2: year ago, when they beat Notre Dame. What are we

1078
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: talking about. They can't win a playoff game. They just

1079
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: won one in twenty twenty. They've won three playoff games

1080
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: in the College Football Playoff era.

1081
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: They don't play a schedule with more than two ranked teams.

1082
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: They'll play at least three ranked teams this year, at

1083
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 2: least three ranked. Penn State will be ranked, Michigan will

1084
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: be ranked. They go on the road to Oregon. What

1085
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 2: are we talking about, exactly? I have no clue what

1086
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: he's talking about. If you want to tell me Ryan

1087
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 2: Days overhyped, you're gonna have to tell me what he's rated.

1088
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: You know, that's our go to. If someone's overrated, you

1089
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: got to tell us what he's rated. Here's the funny

1090
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: thing to me, these takes about Ohio State being overrated,

1091
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: Ryan Day being overrated. Nine tenths of them crumble if

1092
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: a kick comes off a foot differently against Georgia, Which

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00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 2: is not to make an excuse for Ohio State, even

1094
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: though I'll be accused of it. I say that to

1095
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 2: simply illustrate how thin the margins are. People speaking absolutes

1096
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Speaker 2: about this stuff like Ohio States nowhere close to this,

1097
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: or no, we're close to that. If that were the case,

1098
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: they wouldn't have been a made field goal away from

1099
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Speaker 2: beating the University of Georgia in the playoff and themselves

1100
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 2: going on to bodybag TCU instead of Georgia getting the

1101
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: privileged to do it. They're a national contender every year,

1102
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 2: so media hasn't done that.

1103
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: They've done it.

1104
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 2: They've got eleven double digit win seasons the last eleven years.

1105
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: You could win double digit games the COVID Year's the

1106
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: only reason they don't have twelve in a row because

1107
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 2: you couldn't play double digit games that year.

1108
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 1: In twelve in the twelve team college.

1109
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 2: Football playoff era, Ohio State would have been in the

1110
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: playoff all twelve years. Do you understand how consistent they've been,

1111
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 2: how consistent a performer they've been in the twelve team

1112
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 2: playoff era, which is since twenty fourteen, Ohio State would

1113
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 2: have been in all twelve years. Bama and Ohio State

1114
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: can say these sorts of things and then you burn

1115
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Speaker 2: the list.

1116
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Speaker 1: That's the end.

1117
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 2: They've done the kind of things consistently that only Alabama

1118
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 2: has done in that timeframe. Not even Georgia's done it

1119
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 2: for that long in that timeframe. So did the mainstream

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00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 2: media tell me that? Or did I just have the

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Speaker 2: sense to go look it up? Or did I just

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Speaker 2: have enough age on me to where I lived through it.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to be that old. It's only been

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Speaker 2: the last decade or so. Oh, by the way, slightly

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Speaker 2: related note, Ohio State's the odds on favorite to win

1126
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Speaker 2: the Big Ten this year, So the mainstream media scratch that. FanDuel,

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Speaker 2: And if you don't believe they'll win it, then you

1130
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Speaker 2: can go bet against them. If you don't believe they'll

1131
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Speaker 2: That's how we're gonna wrap the show up. Tonight Predictions

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Speaker 2: is like way later in the show than usual, But

1178
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Speaker 2: that's because we've had a jam packed show. And if

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Speaker 2: you're just happening to stroll by or listen and you

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Speaker 2: really haven't and you wonder what is this show? Well,

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Speaker 2: we do it all year. We don't take an off season.

1182
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Speaker 2: We don't talk about any other sport. We try and

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Speaker 2: attack the sport from a different angle as opposed to

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Speaker 2: what you see on traditional media, mainstream media, even some

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Speaker 2: would say. And all we ask is that you subscribe

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Speaker 2: on YouTube or on podcast. That's all we ask. And

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Speaker 2: we'll keep the show free, and we'll do it on

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Speaker 2: our terms. And by on our terms, I mean the

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Speaker 2: entire family here at Peyte State. We'll do it on

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Speaker 2: our terms. So we try and make it your college

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Speaker 1: Anyway, I got Bold Predictions in my hand here.

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Speaker 2: These are the things that you claim you believe in

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00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 2: enough to bet your own money on. First one comes

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Speaker 2: to us, I think by way of Knoxville, Tennessee.

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00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: Oh it's our buddy, orange kool Aid, he says.

1197
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: Tennessee makes the playoff in Nico Iamliava is invited to

1198
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: New York City. Nico is the quarterback at Tennessee this year.

1199
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Speaker 2: I can go ahead and give you the FanDuel numbers.

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Speaker 2: Tennessee is plus one seventy two to make it. They

1201
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 2: are minus two fifteen to miss the playoff, which means

1202
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 2: you'd have to bet a little bit more if you

1203
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: think they're gonna miss it, then you if you think

1204
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 2: they're gonna make it, but not by much. I mean

1205
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 2: they got an over run a wintal of nine and

1206
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: a half, fairly decent shot at making the college football

1207
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 2: Playoff this year.

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01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: They got the twelfth best odds.

1209
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: Of course, we don't take the top twelve teams because

1210
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 2: we had to work in the precious auto bid format.

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Speaker 2: They have a reasonably favorable schedule. I'm not saying it's easy.

1212
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 2: I'm saying by SEC standards, it's reasonably favorable. You know

1213
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Speaker 2: that I have that game at Oklahoma circled in Week four,

1214
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Speaker 2: possibly to go to but also just because I think

1215
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: it's gonna be one of the hidden big deal games

1216
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 2: in the first month of the season. Nico has the

1217
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Speaker 2: fifth best Heisman odds in the country. Now, of course,

1218
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Speaker 2: you're asking two things to happen here. They got to

1219
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: make the playoff. Nico's got to be a Heisman finalist.

1220
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 2: Of course, if they make the playoff, it's likely he

1221
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: has been the reason. So there's a little correlation here.

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01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 2: It's not like you're picking two blind things to parlay.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make this an eight point five. It's not

1224
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Speaker 2: crazy to me because I think Nico's gonna have a

1225
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 2: really good year. I think Tennessee's gonna have a really

1226
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: good year. So I could easily see both of these

1227
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Speaker 2: things happening. Eight point five not all that bold to me.

1228
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Speaker 2: Next up, incredibly bold. Almost went ten on this one.

1229
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 2: Brett said three Florida schools will make the college football Playoff. Well, Brett,

1230
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 2: that's a nine point seventy five from me here. So

1231
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 2: if you hit on this, when you're getting a childie

1232
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 2: of supremacy, Florida State plus one sixty to make the playoff,

1233
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Speaker 2: Miami plus two to ten to make the playoff. There

1234
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Speaker 2: aren't even numbers available to make the playoff on Florida

1235
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 2: UCF or USF. Florida's got the thirteenth best odds to

1236
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Speaker 2: win the SEC. UCS got the eighth best odds in

1237
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Speaker 2: the Big twelve USF. Pay attention there. They got the

1238
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Speaker 2: third best odds in the AAC. I think it's obvious

1239
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Speaker 2: if this prediction comes true, Florida State in Miami have

1240
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Speaker 2: to be two of the teams. I'm pretty sure that's

1241
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 2: got to be the case. So you got Florida State

1242
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Speaker 2: in Miami both in the playoff, you still need one

1243
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Speaker 2: more and it's probably got to come from UCF or USF,

1244
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Speaker 2: and it's probably got to come from an auto bid.

1245
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Speaker 1: So think about UCF.

1246
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: If they go nine and three, let's say, but they're

1247
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Speaker 2: in the Big twelve championship game and they win that thing, boom,

1248
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 2: they're in USF, same thing. They go nine and three

1249
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 2: because they got some big out of conference games, so

1250
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: they're not going undefeated or anything like that. But if

1251
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 2: they're undefeated in conference player, they're good enough in conference

1252
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: play to sneak in and they win it. They're the

1253
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Speaker 2: highest ranked G five team boom.

1254
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Speaker 1: They're in the playoff.

1255
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter if they're ranked seventeenth in the country. If

1256
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 2: they fit those parameters, whether we like it or not,

1257
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Speaker 2: they're in the playoff.

1258
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Speaker 1: This is a nine point seventy five. This is really

1259
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Speaker 1: tough to pull off.

1260
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Speaker 2: Next up, speaking of the Big Twelve, William from Atlanta said,

1261
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Speaker 2: TCU wins the Big Twelve, makes the playoff and wins

1262
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 2: at least one game. Well, that's a nine point seventy five.

1263
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Speaker 2: You guys can't help yourselves, can you gotta go a

1264
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 2: little bit further? TCU making the playoff is going to

1265
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 2: be difficult, but obtainable. They got the ninth best odds

1266
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve, which sounds like a long shot

1267
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: until you realize, oh, it's the Big Twelve, So who cares.

1268
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 2: They've been long shots before and literally went to a

1269
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 2: national title game. They are top forty in returning production.

1270
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,479
Speaker 2: They play only two teams in the preseason, top twenty

1271
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 2: five odds to win the whole thing, so it's not

1272
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 2: the it's not the biggest murderers rows schedule you've ever seen.

1273
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 2: If they win the Big Twelve, that's part one of

1274
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Speaker 2: this prediction. If they win the Big twelve, they will

1275
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: have a bye in the playoff, which sounds good, but

1276
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 2: the other prediction was they have to win a playoff game. Well, ironically,

1277
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 2: it makes it more difficult for them because if they

1278
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 2: didn't have a first round by, there's a chance they

1279
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 2: could draw a softer team. If they have a first

1280
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 2: round by, they're guaranteed to play a team that just

1281
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 2: won around one game, which means you got no break.

1282
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: Not that there are breaks in the playoff. They're gonna

1283
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 2: be an underdog probably in that spot. I think this

1284
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Speaker 2: is a nine point seventy five even for Sunny Dikes

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Speaker 2: in company. This is extremely tough, not unobtainable, but tough.

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Speaker 2: And lastly, I had to think about this one for

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Speaker 2: a second. So last year Michigan and Washington faced off

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Speaker 2: in the national title game.

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Speaker 1: They were both undefeated.

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Speaker 2: Caleb from Lewistown, PA said there will be no undefeated

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Speaker 2: conference champs.

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Speaker 1: In the P four.

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Speaker 2: He said, at least one of them will be two losses.

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Speaker 2: I'm just focusing on the first part. No undefeated conference

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Speaker 2: champs in the P four. It's way harder to be

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Speaker 2: undefeated now, Like this is an eight. This is not

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Speaker 2: overly bold to me, the SEC could be a grinder

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Speaker 2: of a conference schedule this year. In the Big Ten,

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Speaker 2: I think it would have to be either Ohio State

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Speaker 2: or Oregon. They play each other in the regular season,

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Speaker 2: and if they're both as good as we think they

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Speaker 2: could be, they may face off again in the Big

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Speaker 2: Ten championship game. Acc is there an elite team? There

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Speaker 2: is there someone that's gonna run the table Big twelve.

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Speaker 2: I cannot foresee anyone being totally undefeated. So realignment has

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Speaker 2: really upped the ante here and made it a lot

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Speaker 2: tougher to go undefeated in a conference.

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Speaker 1: You have no divisions anymore.

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Speaker 2: So you won't get a walk through in a conference

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Speaker 2: championship format. And then there's no Pac twelve. So they

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Speaker 2: took a division. They took a Power five away from

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Speaker 2: us as Power four now, so I maybe I even

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Speaker 2: agree with this prediction that there'll be no undefeated Power

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Speaker 2: four conference champs. I'm gonna make it an eight on

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Speaker 2: the boldness goal. A little over an hour tonight, had

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Speaker 2: a lot to say, got a lot going on in

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