Speaker 1: Cool media.
Speaker 2: This is it could happen here. Executive Disorder, our weekly
Speaker 2: newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world,
Speaker 2: and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today.
Speaker 2: I'm joined by doctor James's Stout and Reverend doctor the
Speaker 2: Honorable Robert Evans.
Speaker 3: That's right. Hmm, that's right, Reverend doctor the honorable Evans,
Speaker 3: who is currently hacking up a fucking lung. Uh, no idea,
Speaker 3: Why I feel otherwise fine?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure you feel otherwise fine due to this
Speaker 2: great week in American history we've all been through together, yeah,
Speaker 2: which started with a meeting between President Donald Trump and
Speaker 2: El Salvador President Bukelea on Monday morning in the Oval Office,
Speaker 2: where they discussed the possibility of the United States helping
Speaker 2: to build more Seacott style facilities to disappear US citizens
Speaker 2: and immigrant that the Trump administration deems criminals or terrorists.
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, I keep getting asked, is this the
Speaker 3: panic moment? And I don't think panic is particularly productive,
Speaker 3: but like, yeah, this is the worst case scenario. The
Speaker 3: worst case scenario is happening. The President's talking about sending
Speaker 3: citizens overseas, to a concentration camp. Honestly, I'm on the
Speaker 3: verge of thinking it's okay to call it a death camp,
Speaker 3: but we just don't have the data yet. There's some
Speaker 3: very concerning satellite shots that appear to show piles of bodies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's from March of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, but it won't have gotten.
Speaker 2: Better no, no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. This is about as bad as
Speaker 3: it could be, folks, We're in it.
Speaker 2: During that meeting, both President Bukeley and and the Trump
Speaker 2: cabinet argue that there is simply no way for people
Speaker 2: sent to see God to ever return to the United States,
Speaker 2: coming up with a whole bunch of absurd, obsurd reasons
Speaker 2: for why that is that is impossible due to due
Speaker 2: to foremol and safety of both Al Salvador and the
Speaker 2: United States. Me and James did a whole episode on
Speaker 2: this earlier this week that you can check out on
Speaker 2: the It could Happen here feed. I'm gonna move on
Speaker 2: to an update on the student crackdowns. So ICE has
Speaker 2: targeted a third Green card holder for deportation based on
Speaker 2: pro Palestinian activism. Mohsen Matuwi is a Palestinian from the
Speaker 2: West Bank who has lived in the US with a
Speaker 2: green card for a decade while studying philosophy at Columbia.
Speaker 2: He co founded the Columbia Palestinian Student Union in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three with Mahmoud Khalil. Maduwi was arrested by Ice
Speaker 2: last Monday, April fourteenth at his citizenship interview in Vermont.
Speaker 2: Now after Khalil was arrested last month, Madowi went into
Speaker 2: hiding and he suspected that this citizenship interview could be
Speaker 2: a honeypot, but decided to go anyway after waiting a
Speaker 2: long time for this point meant, his lawyers quickly filed
Speaker 2: a habeas corpus petition arguing his detentions unlawful and Violet's
Speaker 2: First Amendment. A US district judge issued an order hours
Speaker 2: later that he was quote not to be removed from
Speaker 2: the United States or moved out of the territory of
Speaker 2: the District of Vermont, pending for their order of this court.
Speaker 2: Zionistocksing accounts targeted Marwi in recent weeks. I'm going to
Speaker 2: play actually this two minute clip of Marwi talking. This
Speaker 2: is from December of twenty twenty three on the program
Speaker 2: sixty minutes.
Speaker 4: What was your initial reaction when you heard about the
Speaker 4: Hamas attack on October seventh.
Speaker 5: I could not believe what my eyes were seeing, where
Speaker 5: I see Hamas members getting into settlements and so on.
Speaker 5: But also the first moment I saw that, I put
Speaker 5: my hand on my heart and I started praying, knowing
Speaker 5: that there will be a huge level of revenge from
Speaker 5: the Israelis, and I was praying that this will not
Speaker 5: be the result, because it would be disastrous.
Speaker 4: The night of the rally, I believe someone in the
Speaker 4: crowd said something very anti Jewish, not to say anti Israeli,
Speaker 4: but anti Jewish.
Speaker 5: Yes, this was as a walk out on November ninth,
Speaker 5: and a person who is not affiliated with Columbia. We've
Speaker 5: never seen him, we don't know who is this guy
Speaker 5: comes down down the stairs yelling death to Jews. I
Speaker 5: was shocked. And they walked directly to the person and
Speaker 5: they told him you don't represent us because this is
Speaker 5: not something that we agree with. And directly what I've done,
Speaker 5: I tooked the megaphone and they gave a speech and
Speaker 5: they said, we here are conscious, educated students, and we
Speaker 5: know how to separate right from wrong, and what this
Speaker 5: guy has said is wrong. What this guy has said
Speaker 5: is clearly anti sematic against Jews. Ant to be anti
Speaker 5: Semitic is unjust, is unjust, and the fight for the
Speaker 5: freedom of Palestine and the fight against anti Semitism go
Speaker 5: hand in hand because injustice anywhere is a threat to
Speaker 5: justice everywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he said everything that would make him
Speaker 3: a respectable protester, at least based on what the fucking
Speaker 3: dims were saying last year, Like, there's nothing in there
Speaker 3: that's pro Hamas. There's nothing in anything I can tell
Speaker 3: this guy has done that his advocacy towards terrorism, Like
Speaker 3: but obviously that's not what matters. What matters is they
Speaker 3: have the ability to get him out and they're doing
Speaker 3: that because of his speech.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he took a step back from protests in March
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four during the second wave of student
Speaker 2: protests at Columbia.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and like I believe he didn't. Isn't he like
Speaker 6: a member of the university Buddhist Club.
Speaker 2: Yes, part of why he took a step back was
Speaker 2: to focus on his role in the Buddhist Club as
Speaker 2: a as for I think in the past, like two
Speaker 2: years he has been participating in that on campus. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he told CBS News the day before he was detained. Quote,
Speaker 2: if my story will become another story for the struggle
Speaker 2: to have justice and democracy in this country, let it
Speaker 2: be unquote like other students who've been targeted and arrested.
Speaker 2: He has not been charged or accused of any crime,
Speaker 2: but the State Department has deemed him a threat to
Speaker 2: foreign policy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Hot to see how but I think as we're
Speaker 1: seeing it, that doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, last Friday, a Louisiana judge ruled in favor of
Speaker 2: the Trump administration to allow the deportation of Mahmoud Khalil,
Speaker 2: upholding the government's argument that the rarely used Cold War
Speaker 2: era statute of the Immigration and Nationality Act allows for
Speaker 2: the Secretary of State to deport aliens that pose quote
Speaker 2: adverse foreign policy consequences. The only quote unquote evidence presented
Speaker 2: in court was a two page memo written by Mark
Speaker 2: Rubio that alleges that Khalil's presence in the country threatens
Speaker 2: quote US policy. Had to come by anti semitism around
Speaker 2: the world and in the United States, based on information
Speaker 2: provided by the DHS, ICE and Homeland security investigations regarding
Speaker 2: the participation and rules of Khalil in anti Semitic protests
Speaker 2: and disruptive actions which foster a hostile environment for Jewish
Speaker 2: students in the United States unquote. So there's no real
Speaker 2: evidence in this document. It is just Mark Rubio's opinion
Speaker 2: for two pages, and this is the only evidence that
Speaker 2: ever has been held in court that resulted in the
Speaker 2: judge ruling in the government's favor.
Speaker 3: A lot of what we're seeing here is the natural
Speaker 3: conclusion to what was happening with like Dance last year
Speaker 3: talking about Haitian immigrants and admitting like, yeah, it's not
Speaker 3: literally true, but like it's true to how we feel.
Speaker 3: So it's like fine for us to spread this lie.
Speaker 3: Like they're just declaring these people terrorists and even attempting
Speaker 3: to get evidence for that claim, like they certainly have
Speaker 3: no need to. And the media that like I'm seeing
Speaker 3: coverage on Fox particularly that's just repeatedly framing this as
Speaker 3: like the left is angry that like a terrorist got deborded, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is the same stuff that we
Speaker 2: saw at the RNC where they referred to students as terrorists,
Speaker 2: like just completely completely flattened. Like every single person at
Speaker 2: a college campus who is upset about a genocide or
Speaker 2: criticizes the state of Israel, that person is a terrorist.
Speaker 2: Lawyers for Khalil have until April twenty third to file
Speaker 2: an appeal to the deportation, and they plan to file
Speaker 2: an asylum case on his behalf. A separate habeas petition
Speaker 2: case is playing out in a New Jersey court. This week,
Speaker 2: NBC News reviewed over one hundred pages of documents from
Speaker 2: the federal government and Khalil's legal team containing information about
Speaker 2: his immigration process, work experience, and activism. These documents showed
Speaker 2: that the government used unverified tabloid reporting against Khalil and
Speaker 2: contained contradictory information yep, so, essentially using New York Post
Speaker 2: style publications as a pretext for ICE to execute arrests
Speaker 2: against people who are Green card holders, legal permanent residents
Speaker 2: of the United States. We're going to go on break
Speaker 2: and come back to talk about Robert F. Kennedy Junior.
Speaker 3: Finally, finally, something fun.
Speaker 2: All right, we're back. I'm gonna throw to Robert Evans
Speaker 2: for an update on everyone's favorite roadkill consumer.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, RFK Junior. He's not just strapping the carcass
Speaker 3: of a dead whale to the head of his truck
Speaker 3: and driving down the highway. Now he is while kind
Speaker 3: of launching a genocidal campaign against people with autism.
Speaker 2: Kind of doing a national eugenics program.
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of calling a large group of people in
Speaker 3: this country useless eaters.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Yeah. Fuck.
Speaker 3: And the gist of what's happening is they just had
Speaker 3: a new quote unquote study come out that looked at
Speaker 3: like apparently rising autism rates. And again I've covered this
Speaker 3: a lot. The reason why rates of autism are increasing
Speaker 3: every credible scientist degrees is because we're looking for it
Speaker 3: more and so we're finding more of it and we
Speaker 3: have a broader understanding of what it is. RFK Junior
Speaker 3: is obsessed with the idea, the image of autism as
Speaker 3: a disease that is spreading due to an environmental contagion,
Speaker 3: and he is trying to make the case that this
Speaker 3: is a calamity. He has promised. The most recent promise
Speaker 3: he made is that by September the government will release
Speaker 3: exhaustive studies that will identify the environmental causes of autism.
Speaker 3: And he made a statement autism destroys families. More importantly,
Speaker 3: it destroys our greatest resource, which is our children. These
Speaker 3: are children who should not be suffering like this. He
Speaker 3: is called autism a preventable disease, which it is not.
Speaker 3: While there is evidence that some of the factors that
Speaker 3: can be relevant in autism expressing are environmental, the vast
Speaker 3: majority of it seems to be genetic. There's no evidence,
Speaker 3: and there have been repeated studies there has anything to
Speaker 3: do with vaccines. He's positive a couple of other theories
Speaker 3: as to what causes it, including mold and diet, and
Speaker 3: these are largely based on what are already kind of quack,
Speaker 3: both autism treatments and quack autism causes that are popular
Speaker 3: within the biomedical movement bare metal biomedical movement, which is
Speaker 3: the fake autism medical industrial complex that we covered recently
Speaker 3: on the Behind the Bastards. One of the things I
Speaker 3: think is really worrying about the language that Kennedy is
Speaker 3: using is how similar it sounds to a lot of
Speaker 3: what you were seeing in the early nineteen thirties out
Speaker 3: of the Nazi state, what we know of as the Holocaust,
Speaker 3: which is generally a term generally primarily when people use
Speaker 3: that term. They are talking about the mass killing of
Speaker 3: Jews and other ethnic minorities in Central Europe by the
Speaker 3: Nazi state. That got a lot of its start, and
Speaker 3: there's a couple of different places got it start. Obviously,
Speaker 3: the wild concentration camps and the political concentration camps are
Speaker 3: in that heritage. When it comes to the actual mass
Speaker 3: killing of people, the very origin of that was in
Speaker 3: getting rid of the disabled. Right. The term that was
Speaker 3: used in Nazi propaganda for these people was useless eaters.
Speaker 3: And this is the first time that the Nazis tested
Speaker 3: out gassing right in large numbers. And he hasn't used
Speaker 3: literally the term useless eaters, but he talks a lot about.
Speaker 3: One of the terms he uses is severe autism, right,
Speaker 3: which is not the term that is popularly used now
Speaker 3: for people who have kind of profound autism. I think
Speaker 3: is the preferred term for people who do have a
Speaker 3: significantly higher degree of like disability as a result of
Speaker 3: their autism or that correlates with their autism, right, as
Speaker 3: opposed to the vast majority of people who can be
Speaker 3: diagnosed to somewhere on the spectrum who are able to
Speaker 3: live independently. Right and Kennedy sort of does the thing
Speaker 3: that is very common within this community of sort of
Speaker 3: number one, correlating that to everybody with autism and talking
Speaker 3: about it as if it is a disaster that justifies
Speaker 3: any kind of response, because the people who have profound
Speaker 3: autism aren't real people in his eyes. He made a
Speaker 3: statement quote, these are kids who will never pay taxes,
Speaker 3: they'll never hold a job, they'll never play baseball, they'll
Speaker 3: never write a poem, they'll never go out on a date.
Speaker 3: Many of them will never use a toilet on assisted.
Speaker 3: We have to recognize we are doing this to our children.
Speaker 3: And first off, having taught a lot of kids with
Speaker 3: profound autism, yes they could play baseball, like a number
Speaker 3: of them held jobs. Now do a lot of them
Speaker 3: need assisted living? Sure, But like number one, that's always
Speaker 3: been the case. There's no evidence that people with this
Speaker 3: kind of autom that there's any sort of raise in
Speaker 3: this right. What's raised is the number of people who
Speaker 3: are being diagnosed. Right, And he's using this kind of
Speaker 3: scare term, right, this idea that like parents, you need
Speaker 3: to be frightened that something is going to steal your
Speaker 3: children from you. In order to justify the dehumanization of
Speaker 3: everyone with autism, as well as radical biomedical experimental procedures
Speaker 3: that are going to do harm at scale to lots
Speaker 3: of kids. One of his favorite new terms is epidemic denial,
Speaker 3: which is the term that he's using for people who
Speaker 3: say that, like, this is not an epidemic, this is
Speaker 3: something that we're now screening for me more, he's kind
Speaker 3: of kind of repurposing the language of like vaccine denial
Speaker 3: and whatnot as like a denial that this is sort
Speaker 3: of an immediate crisis that needs to be hit, which
Speaker 3: I find interesting.
Speaker 2: Also like co opting like COVID conscious language.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think the way he and his group
Speaker 6: were referred to during COVID he's now using in the
Speaker 6: same fashion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's interesting. His initial promise was that like,
Speaker 3: by September, will know why autism rates are on the rise.
Speaker 3: That's not really a thing. You can't make science work
Speaker 3: that way, Like you can't guarantee that.
Speaker 6: Like you said, we already know because people are seeking
Speaker 6: out diagnoses.
Speaker 1: Like because right, we have better awareness of it now.
Speaker 3: But he's kind of altered that recently, being like, no,
Speaker 3: we'll have some answers by September, and you know, We're
Speaker 3: gonna get those answers by removing the taboo so that
Speaker 3: doctors won't get gas lit by blaming autism on vaccines
Speaker 3: or you know, mold exposure or the like. That's that's
Speaker 3: what we can look forward to in the near future
Speaker 3: from our good friend RFK Junior, who definitely doesn't pay
Speaker 3: taxes or write poems. I just want to make that clear.
Speaker 3: I don't think either of those are particularly good bars
Speaker 3: for whether or not you're a human being. But he
Speaker 3: for sure doesn't do either.
Speaker 2: As frankly, I know way too many autistic people who
Speaker 2: write poems.
Speaker 3: Oh tons of them.
Speaker 6: Ys gonna say, yeah, the ring poeing things was a
Speaker 6: really fucking.
Speaker 3: The poet Lauriate of Washington State since twenty twenty three
Speaker 3: is a is a woman with autism. So yeah, like.
Speaker 2: I writing poems nonsense, extremely common activity for my fellow ye,
Speaker 2: my fellow autism people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are okay, okay, ore FK Junior again, but
Speaker 3: he was talking about, you know, people with what he
Speaker 3: calls severe autism. But he also doesn't ever care to
Speaker 3: like specify his language because there's no there's no benefit
Speaker 3: that's a real medical yeah, and there's no benefit to
Speaker 3: his ideology in acknowledging that, like, well, most people who
Speaker 3: get diagnosed with autism may need some accommodations. It's a difference, right,
Speaker 3: It's a difference in the way your mind works. But
Speaker 3: they're fine, Like they're living healthy, happy lives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I talk slightly differently in the cool zone work chat,
Speaker 2: which is kind of the extent of it for me, extent,
Speaker 2: but that is an aspect. Speaking of the Department of
Speaker 2: Health Human Services, they released a report page on their
Speaker 2: website for you, the the vigilance citizen. Oh yes, to
Speaker 2: report trans miners receiving healthcare. Finally, and so an another
Speaker 2: one of these like snitching hotlines at this time on
Speaker 2: a federal government website that I'm sure will only get real,
Speaker 2: real complaints sent to it, and not the B movie.
Speaker 3: See not repeatedly the B movie scrap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of trans people, I do have a few
Speaker 2: updates on some some of the transgender stuff. During that
Speaker 2: meeting between President Buklea and Trump, they went on a
Speaker 2: small tangent about trans people where where Trump said that
Speaker 2: he actually doesn't like talking about quote unquote men in
Speaker 2: women's sports because he wants to wait and save that
Speaker 2: issue to use for the next election.
Speaker 3: Amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to play the clip, and I don't.
Speaker 7: Like talking about it because I want to save it
Speaker 7: for just before the next election. I said, my people
Speaker 7: don't even talk about it because they'll change then. Well,
Speaker 7: but I watched this morning it was a congressman fighting
Speaker 7: to the debt for men to play against women in sports.
Speaker 2: That's like super interesting, like very clear insight into how
Speaker 2: like Trump sees like the trands of sports issue and
Speaker 2: treats it as this like election winning superpower, and like
Speaker 2: he certainly he is directing like the DOJ and with
Speaker 2: his executive orders, like he still is targeting trans people,
Speaker 2: especially trans people against So it's not that he's treating
Speaker 2: this as like a hands off issue to like ensure
Speaker 2: that it can remain a hot button thing for the
Speaker 2: next election. But I think I think in his mind,
Speaker 2: like he doesn't want to stop Democrats from caring about
Speaker 2: this issue in a way like like the the more
Speaker 2: that they that they fight for it in his mind
Speaker 2: is like what gives him ammunition for the next election,
Speaker 2: whether he's going to run for a third term or
Speaker 2: just like Republicans like mega stuff in general. But I
Speaker 2: think that it is an interesting look into like his
Speaker 2: personal insight on this issue. Meanwhile, the Department of Justice
Speaker 2: just announced on Wednesday, April sixteenth, that they are suing
Speaker 2: Maine's Department of Education for not complying with Trump's anti
Speaker 2: trans executive order by continuing to allow trans people to
Speaker 2: compete in sports, claiming that they are quote failing to
Speaker 2: protect women in women's sports unquote, which which they say
Speaker 2: violates Title nine. The suit aims to get an injunction
Speaker 2: to force man to strip away rights from trans people
Speaker 2: in schools, to take away two winning titles from trans
Speaker 2: of school athletes, and are considering to quote unquote retroactively
Speaker 2: pull all funding that Maine has received. Maine's Attorney General,
Speaker 2: Aaron Frey said on Wednesday, quote our position is further
Speaker 2: bolstered by the complete lack of any legal citation supporting
Speaker 2: the administration's position in its own complaint. While the President
Speaker 2: issued in executive order that reflects his own interpretations of
Speaker 2: the law, anyone with the most basic understanding of American
Speaker 2: civics understands that the President does not create law nor
Speaker 2: interpret law unquote. So Maine and specifically the main governor,
Speaker 2: are adamant that this is going to be an issue
Speaker 2: that's only going to be settled in the courts, and
Speaker 2: in fact challenged Trump at a recent meeting to see
Speaker 2: you in court over this issue. We are going to
Speaker 2: go and break and then return to close out this
Speaker 2: episode of executive disorder. Okay, we are back. I'm now
Speaker 2: gonna throw to myself and Mia to discuss the tariff
Speaker 2: talk in a future recording.
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Speaker 8: Jazz Bob, welcome the Tariff talk, the talk where I
Speaker 8: talk to you about the turf tariffs. So all right,
Speaker 8: the big thing that happens last week in tariffs was
Speaker 8: that Trump exempted smartphones and electronics. There's a whole suite
Speaker 8: of electronics that are exempted from the one and forty
Speaker 8: five percent turf tariffs from Liberation Day. Now, there was
Speaker 8: still a twenty percent tariff on all these electronic goods
Speaker 8: from the earlier round tariffs. In one of the initial rounds,
Speaker 8: there was a whole thing where he put a bunch
Speaker 8: of tariffs.
Speaker 2: I'm so confused though, because I thought that's ten percent
Speaker 2: tariffs for non Chinese companies.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but okay, So here's.
Speaker 2: The thing, right, China like additional or no.
Speaker 8: Okay. So, so what's happening with these is that in
Speaker 8: the very very first round of tariffs that went out,
Speaker 8: there was a twenty percent tariff on all Chinese goods,
Speaker 8: and so the Liberation Day tariffs, which and then the
Speaker 8: subsequent retaliatory tariffs pushed.
Speaker 2: It pushed all goods now two hundred fifty.
Speaker 8: Okay, we're gonna we're gonna get two hundred fiyercent. That
Speaker 8: the numbers bullshit, But we're at one hundred and forty
Speaker 8: five percent like tariff from the Liberation Day stuff. But
Speaker 8: that also had included an earlier twenty percent tariff, and
Speaker 8: you see, you see why we're reporting about this is
Speaker 8: so fucking hard, right, So that was stack on top
Speaker 8: of that other tariff. So if he's removed the Liberation
Speaker 8: Day tariffs, but there still are twenty percent tariffs on
Speaker 8: all like iPhones and all the electronicos that are still
Speaker 8: in effect. So the tariff right for those goods is
Speaker 8: now twenty instead of one hundred and forty five. But
Speaker 8: this is where things get even more murky. So even
Speaker 8: before the exemptions for the semiconductor stuff had been released.
Speaker 8: Trump had been talking about imposing a bunch of tariffs,
Speaker 8: specifically on semiconductors from all countries, which is going to like, again,
Speaker 8: if this is just awesome, if you want to just
Speaker 8: kneecap your entire economy, you put in a tariff on
Speaker 8: all semiconductors from other countries, which was what this is
Speaker 8: looking like, it's possible the levels are going to be
Speaker 8: that high. Anyways, It's again worth pointing out that, like,
Speaker 8: there's a bunch of the parts of this production process
Speaker 8: that basically can only be done in Taiwan, which will
Speaker 8: presumably have these new tariffs on them. We don't know
Speaker 8: what they're gonna be yet they're coming in, who fucking knows,
Speaker 8: But so it seems like they're these tariffs are being
Speaker 8: withdrawn for now due to market sort of backlash, but
Speaker 8: probably they will come back at some point in the future.
Speaker 8: We're not We're not one hundred percent sure. There's also
Speaker 8: another thing I want to mention, where so the number
Speaker 8: that you said, the two hundred and fifty percent tariff thing,
Speaker 8: so Trump tweeted that out, but that's fake. What that
Speaker 8: is is that there are a couple of items, and
Speaker 8: I mean when I say a couple. I mean, like
Speaker 8: we're talking like single digit items, like things like medical
Speaker 8: syringes that already had like one hundred percent tariffs on them,
Speaker 8: that the one hundred and forty five percent tariff stack
Speaker 8: on top of all tariffs that are already in effect.
Speaker 8: So there's like like three or four items already had
Speaker 8: one hundred percent tariffs on them, so when you stack
Speaker 8: the one forty five on top of them, they're two
Speaker 8: fifty percent. But again it's like it's like three things, right,
Speaker 8: So like that's fake. On the other hand, like substantively,
Speaker 8: And this is something that a lot of people have
Speaker 8: been talking about the difference between one hundred and forty
Speaker 8: five percent and two hundred and forty five percent, Like
Speaker 8: it isn't that relevant because at one hundred and forty
Speaker 8: five percent you stop doing trading. So it's you know,
Speaker 8: the numbers at this when I just sort of in
Speaker 8: comedy levels. But yeah, so that's what's going on with
Speaker 8: the two hundred and fifty number of people have been
Speaker 8: going around from it's it's not real. It's still one
Speaker 8: forty five for all non electronics goods twenty four electronics.
Speaker 8: There's also been a bunch of China has been doing
Speaker 8: retaliatory stuff for a little bit, and they've been ramping
Speaker 8: up this program to restrict US access to rare earth
Speaker 8: elements that are necessary for a whole bunch of advanced engineering,
Speaker 8: particularly sort of defense projects. This is the thing that
Speaker 8: could genuinely devastate the American defense sector. Trump's plan for
Speaker 8: this is that he's threatening to use the Trade Expansion
Speaker 8: Act nineteen sixty two to impose even more devastating tariffs.
Speaker 8: Now it is genuinely unclear to me, Like what is
Speaker 8: he going to do impose in one thousand percent tariff?
Speaker 2: Like you need to buy these goods, like you say that, Mia,
Speaker 2: And yeah, he probably will.
Speaker 8: He probably will. Like two weeks ago, one thousand percent
Speaker 8: tariffs would have been a joke, But no, they might.
Speaker 8: They might legitimately do one thousand percent tariffs.
Speaker 2: Why not.
Speaker 8: There's also been the beginnings of of on the us
Speaker 8: ND sort of export restrictions from chip exports to China
Speaker 8: and countries like Nvidia and AMD. And this is a
Speaker 8: fucking big rip to the big rip to the fucking
Speaker 8: AI people. Each hit get fucked. Yeah, so like so
Speaker 8: that that's roughly the state of of the tariffs right now,
Speaker 8: more more bullshit will happen. We'll be back on Tariff
Speaker 8: Talk next week with another round of unbelievably hideous turf
Speaker 8: tariff shit. But I want to I want to move
Speaker 8: on to one more thing, which is things that have
Speaker 8: been happening at the at the NLRB. So the NLRB,
Speaker 8: for people who are not regular listeners to the show,
Speaker 8: is the National Labor Relations Board. They were in charge
Speaker 8: of a whole bunch of things related to negotiations between
Speaker 8: employers and unions. Are the people who certify union elections,
Speaker 8: they handle unfair labor practices disputes, and Doge effectively broke
Speaker 8: into the NLRB and has seized a whole bunch of
Speaker 8: information that they shouldn't have. NPR broke the story and
Speaker 8: has been doing a lot of good coverage of it.
Speaker 8: So it came in right. They technically had some kind
Speaker 8: of like order saying that they're supposed to be able
Speaker 8: to come in and do this stuff. And they set
Speaker 8: up and they disable all of the security stuff and
Speaker 8: all of the sort of like logs and all the
Speaker 8: sort of stuff that's supposed to like verify what someone's
Speaker 8: doing on a computer system, they go in and disable all
Speaker 8: of them, They delete all traces of what they do.
Speaker 8: And this is a big deal because the NLRB has
Speaker 8: a lot of extremely sensitive data, has extremely sensitive data
Speaker 8: on unions, It has a lot of extremely sensitive trade
Speaker 8: data on private companies. Now, the NLRB person who blew
Speaker 8: the whistle on this to NPR described how so he
Speaker 8: complains about to his superiors about Doge again just like
Speaker 8: sort of breaking into this fucking like office and just
Speaker 8: like stealing all of this data. Because he mean, so
Speaker 8: he notices this program that they're building that's literally just
Speaker 8: called like backdoor, which is like again, what you would
Speaker 8: do if you were literally running a hack, right, And
Speaker 8: we'll come back to in a second. So the NLOP
Speaker 8: person complains to a superior so like, hey, these DOSE
Speaker 8: people are just like stealing all of the data from
Speaker 8: this And then like the next day, someone from Doge
Speaker 8: tapes to his door pictures of him and his dogs
Speaker 8: with like a threatening thing on it, like drone footage
Speaker 8: of him and his dog like walking, which is so
Speaker 8: fucking weird. I don't even know, I don't even so, yeah,
Speaker 8: that's that's extremely alarming. This is this is they're they're
Speaker 8: just blatantly threatening a whistleblower. Yeah. So so the other
Speaker 8: reason that this is really concerning is that so a
Speaker 8: lot of the corporate media is focused on the fact
Speaker 8: that there's a lot of trade information in there, there's
Speaker 8: also a lot of very personal information about unions, about
Speaker 8: union strength, about size, about tactics, about the history of
Speaker 8: negotiating things about just where unions are and who's in them.
Speaker 8: And it's it's deeply unclear what DOGE is going to
Speaker 8: do with this information. But it's not good. And again,
Speaker 8: and I need to emphasize this. So I talked to
Speaker 8: friend of the show, oh Maya Arson crime w about this,
Speaker 8: who is someone who knows a lot about hacking, And
Speaker 8: I said to it, okay, so this is what you
Speaker 8: would do if you were if you were just straight
Speaker 8: up like hacking the NLRB, right, like, these are the
Speaker 8: things you would do, And they went, yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 8: So it's great, it's great. Yeah, the dose are just
Speaker 8: stolen a bunch of information. Who knows what's gonna happen
Speaker 8: to it. Who knows what's gonna happen with their escalation
Speaker 8: of attacks on whistleblowers. But things bad, things continue to
Speaker 8: go bad.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that uplifting story, Miya about Doge
Speaker 2: breaking into and stealing data from the NLRB and posting
Speaker 2: overhead drone photos of people's houses who threatened the Doge supremacy.
Speaker 1: We're back, Thank you, Future Garrison and future Miya. So
Speaker 1: it's my role here to update you on the Board
Speaker 1: of Fashion, and that's what I'm here to do.
Speaker 6: Where I want to start this week is in the
Speaker 6: Roosevelt Reservation.
Speaker 1: This is something that's been reported on a little bit.
Speaker 6: It's largely by people who maybe only found out about
Speaker 6: it this week and looked at a Wikipedia page then
Speaker 6: it wrote a story. The Roosevelt Reservation is a sixty
Speaker 6: foot easement that runs along the southwestern border of the
Speaker 6: United States from the coast in San Diego or the
Speaker 6: way to New Mexico.
Speaker 1: Doesn't cover the Texas border.
Speaker 6: I've written about it before for the Sierra Club and
Speaker 6: for Drilled News four or five years ago, and I'm
Speaker 6: going to include a link to the Sierra Club piece
Speaker 6: in the show notes that Drill pieces down now they
Speaker 6: don't have that print side anymore. It was established in
Speaker 6: nineteen oh seven by Teddy Roosevelt and It was transferred
Speaker 6: for three years from the Department of the Interior Department
Speaker 6: of Defense by the Trump administration in twenty nineteen using
Speaker 6: an executive order this year in twenty twenty five, all
Speaker 6: of the Roosevelt Reservation that is not part of federal
Speaker 6: reservation land was placed on the Department of Defense jurisdiction.
Speaker 6: A lot of reports seems to have missed this exemption
Speaker 6: for federal reservation land, which makes up a significant part
Speaker 6: of the border, especially in Arizona right in the Tornad Reservation.
Speaker 6: I'm going to quote from the language of the executive
Speaker 6: order here quote to provide for the use and jurisdiction
Speaker 6: by the Department events over such federal lands, including the
Speaker 6: Roosevelt Reservation, and excluding Federal Indian reservations that are reasonably
Speaker 6: necessary to enable military activities directed in this memorandum, including
Speaker 6: border barrier construction and emplacement of detection and monitoring equipment.
Speaker 6: The way I read this, it also doesn't limit to
Speaker 6: the reserve reservation. It seems to include other federal land right,
Speaker 6: which could include National monuments, National Parks BLM, and the
Speaker 6: National Forests, all of which exist along the border. The
Speaker 6: Trump administration this week also obtained waivers. The waivers wave
Speaker 6: dozens of laws that have been limiting construction in the
Speaker 6: San Diego sector. I'd like to quote a little bit
Speaker 6: from that Sierra Club piece that I wrote, because I
Speaker 6: think the aspect of the damage done to the sacred
Speaker 6: space of Indigenous people is being completely overlooked by the
Speaker 6: legacy media.
Speaker 1: In this not.
Speaker 6: Perhaps surprisingly so, one of the law's waved with a
Speaker 6: Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act. The Native American
Speaker 6: Graves Protection and Repatriation Act was enacted by Congress in
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety to protect and safely relocate Native burial sites.
Speaker 6: When construction takes place on sensitive sites, the tribing question
Speaker 6: should be consulted, and in the event remains or other
Speaker 6: archaeological objects are found, construction should be altered so as
Speaker 6: not to disturb the site. In the areas of San
Speaker 6: Diego where they are digging, what's called midden soil has
Speaker 6: been found mid and soil is soil that contains evidence
Speaker 6: of cremated human remains. Right in this case of Kumii people.
Speaker 6: With this waver, they don't have to comply with NAGPRO
Speaker 6: Native American Graves Protection and Relocation Act, which means that
Speaker 6: they can continue digging through what are literally people's ancestors graveyards.
Speaker 1: Quote from that twenty twenty story.
Speaker 6: If this were another country's government destroying a region's holy land,
Speaker 6: the US would go to war and the people would
Speaker 6: feel it justified, activist Thomas barbatod Sierra. But it happens
Speaker 6: here at home, in front of us, and we just
Speaker 6: turn away.
Speaker 2: Yep, we sure do a turn away.
Speaker 3: It seems to be most of what we do these days.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not even what bugs me. It's like, not
Speaker 6: so much of folks, you know, not doing anything. I
Speaker 6: get that it's overwhelming horrible at the moment. It's that
Speaker 6: this doesn't even get reported. Yeah, big outlets with a
Speaker 6: massive budget, who are supposed to have a border reporter
Speaker 6: who's never fucking set foot on the border, doesn't take
Speaker 6: the time to talk to the indigenous people whose land
Speaker 6: the border crossed, right, Like, doesn't take the time to
Speaker 6: hear their concerns, doesn't take the time to think about
Speaker 6: when you dig thirty feet into this ground to build
Speaker 6: your border wall, that's twelve thousand years of someone's history.
Speaker 6: How do they feel about that? And like that is
Speaker 6: a failing of the legacy media. It has been a
Speaker 6: failing for a long time, and it will continue to
Speaker 6: be for a long time, and piss.
Speaker 3: Me off, YEP.
Speaker 6: I guess to talk more broadly than about this militarization
Speaker 6: of the Roosevelt Reservation and other public land. There's been
Speaker 6: some speculation about what this might mean. I don't think
Speaker 6: that you're going to see soldiers pointing their guns at
Speaker 6: the southern border and shooting anyone who comes across. I
Speaker 6: do think it's likely a lot of the people who
Speaker 6: have been deployed to southern border so far at MPs
Speaker 6: military police right, and it's possible that those MPs will
Speaker 6: be able to detain people and potentially charge and with
Speaker 6: trespassing on a military installation. That would just be another
Speaker 6: string to the bow of their attempt to rapidly deport people,
Speaker 6: because they already have many other kind of options through
Speaker 6: executive order of doing that which which.
Speaker 1: They're a really implying right.
Speaker 6: It might also make it easier for them to waive
Speaker 6: some of these other laws and to construct more surveillance equipment.
Speaker 6: In the Ebrogogacia case, which we've covered for several weeks now,
Speaker 6: the Supreme Court has unanimously asked to the United States
Speaker 6: government to quote facilitate his return. The US government has
Speaker 6: embarked upon a unique definition of the word facilitate, which
Speaker 6: it feels like means allowing him to enter the country
Speaker 6: and providing transport if El Salvador releases him. Bukelly refused
Speaker 6: to release him, saying that doing so would be to
Speaker 6: quote smuggler terrorists into the United States. Garrison and I
Speaker 6: did a whole episode about this yesterday that you can
Speaker 6: listen to. Today, Senator Chris van Holland went to San Salvador, right,
Speaker 6: capital of El Salbador if you're not where, he met
Speaker 6: with the Vice president because Bukele is still out the country.
Speaker 6: Van Holdend held the press conference right afterwards that I
Speaker 6: watched for it before we recorded this. In the press conference,
Speaker 6: Van Holland basically said that he asserted to the Vice
Speaker 6: President of El Salbador there was no evidence nor any
Speaker 6: conviction of being a member of MS thirteen, and he
Speaker 6: asked the VP why he was holding mister Abrego Gussier,
Speaker 6: and the VP said, because the US is paying us
Speaker 6: to home.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which yeah, they won't even lie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he's not lying. That's why they're doing it.
Speaker 3: I believe that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and credit to this Maryland senator, like being the
Speaker 6: only one to do something, and it's not enough, and
Speaker 6: it's just one person. There are three hundred people there, right,
Speaker 6: They're not even going for the hundreds of other innocent
Speaker 6: people are there. It's one guy, but at least he's
Speaker 6: doing something. The rest of the Democrats collectively, Yeah, I
Speaker 6: don't know, like voting for Trump's nominees. He asked to
Speaker 6: meet with mister Abrego Garcia and was told that they
Speaker 6: needed more time. He said, I'll come back next week.
Speaker 6: They said they don't know if they can organize it
Speaker 6: in a week. He asked if he could call him.
Speaker 6: They said they didn't know if they could facilitate a call.
Speaker 6: They said maybe the US embassy would have to be
Speaker 6: the one that requests that. So he has now requested
Speaker 6: that the embassy requests that he be allowed to call
Speaker 6: mister Abrego Garcia and mister Brego Garcia be allowed to
Speaker 6: speak to his wife. Garreton and I spoke about how
Speaker 6: like it's not in the interest of government at El
Speaker 6: salbad Or to have people leave this prison and testify
Speaker 6: it to the conditions that are in it.
Speaker 2: No one has ever left this prison that we're aware of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that no one who's been detained there has left.
Speaker 6: The government wouldn't give him a date when he could
Speaker 6: meet mister Abergo Garcia or when he would be likely
Speaker 6: able to make a call.
Speaker 1: And a separate case, Judge Boseburg.
Speaker 6: Who we've spoken about before as well, Right, Judge Bothberg,
Speaker 6: with the judge issues's attentive restraining order on the rendition
Speaker 6: of people to l Salbador, which the government then ignored,
Speaker 6: has found probable cause that the administration is in contempt
Speaker 6: of court.
Speaker 1: What does this mean?
Speaker 6: It doesn't mean, despite what you have seen on your timeline,
Speaker 6: that this will mean these people will be bought home.
Speaker 6: When they found a contempt, they have two options. Right,
Speaker 6: they can purge themselves of the contempt, and the way
Speaker 6: they would do that would be by providing habeas not
Speaker 6: by bringing all these people home, at least not yet right.
Speaker 6: Or they could present the people who are responsible and
Speaker 6: then either an attorney could be appointed by the DOJ
Speaker 6: to prosecute them, I guess and don't quite know how
Speaker 6: that works since or the judge himself point and attorney
Speaker 6: to prosecute them for criminal contempt. Again like at least
Speaker 6: the guys try and I guess.
Speaker 3: Like no, I mean, like I got nothing to say
Speaker 3: against him right now, Like this is what they all
Speaker 3: should be doing. He went there, he said something, and
Speaker 3: he's not mincing his words. He's saying that this man
Speaker 3: was disappeared.
Speaker 6: No, yeah, and he's he's asserting that, like they need
Speaker 6: to listen to the court. They are supposed to listen
Speaker 6: to the court. Judge genez In genez who is a
Speaker 6: judge on the district court that had its case sent
Speaker 6: to the Supreme Court for review in the Abrego Garcia incident,
Speaker 6: also quoted to Merriam Webster Dictionary and said that the
Speaker 6: government's understanding of the word facility flew in the face
Speaker 6: of the common understanding.
Speaker 1: Of the word.
Speaker 6: Again, like I've seen it asserted, like, oh, legal experts
Speaker 6: can disagree. Meanwhile, you've got the actual judge in the
Speaker 6: actual case being like, notice is what the dictionary says.
Speaker 1: Your definition is ludicrous.
Speaker 6: I would caution people to be very careful looking at
Speaker 6: at like blue check legal experts on except com or
Speaker 6: people on blue Sky. There has been so much misleading
Speaker 6: stuff about immigration law and the laws in these particular
Speaker 6: two cases and they are about the resot reservation. Actually,
Speaker 6: just be really careful where you're getting your information, especially
Speaker 6: on immigration law from maybe go back and check what
Speaker 6: that person was doing in twenty twenty three when thousands
Speaker 6: of migrants were detained in outdoor detention camps. Because I've
Speaker 6: seen so much misinformation and people, understandably who aren't expert
Speaker 6: in this, because it's extremely complicated, are likely to be
Speaker 6: taken advantage of by people who are grifting off what
Speaker 6: is at a moment when a lot of us are
Speaker 6: afraid and a lot of us are insertain, to be
Speaker 6: very careful what you're reading out there.
Speaker 2: All right, I think that's all for us today on
Speaker 2: It could Happen Here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's our new rectiled executive dysfunction episode.
Speaker 1: At Rectile Order.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, we're fucking done, go away.
Speaker 2: We reported the news.
Speaker 3: We reported the news.
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