1 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: You're so new to prof you don't leave Look at 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: this just you just left this in front of this 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: was such an amateur live performance move. I didn't. I 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: didn't do it right. So while I'm here, the first 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: thing you do is move the fucking microphone stand. I don't. 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know how to do it. There's 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: only two things I know how to do one of 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: there's only two things I know how to do. One 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: of them is read scripts about bad people, and the 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: other is poorly introduced my show. Um so I would 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: like to say to my first live audience, what's what's 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: what's cracking my peppers? Yeah? That's good, Thank you good. 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm learning slowly, we're getting used to the microphone. Still. 14 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: I think I might do excepting. I don't know if 15 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: it's ideally like a wireless mike is not. It's just 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: the rule that if it's gonna go wrong, a wireless 17 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: minke will go wrong. Well, I can shout, but only 18 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: for a limited period of time. This. Yeah, And we 19 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: told you guys when we this is gonna go terrible. 20 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be a disaster. It's go it's really 21 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: going to give you an idea of what a disaster 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: it's going to be. I bag full of machetes. I 23 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: forgot bring all of the recording equipment necessary to record 24 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: my podcast. Um, I brought some recording equipment and that 25 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: fucking stupid. Yeah. I don't know how to you like. 26 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: I just handed it to Tori, the nice sound lady, 27 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: and she was like what. I was like, yeah, big 28 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: up statory um, and she did it. Yeah. We had 29 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: to make some phone calls. We did it to make 30 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: we had to call Daniel. UM. But you know, I 31 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: think we got it. Man, It's gonna be interesting how 32 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: this sounds after it really is like other people, if 33 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: we release it, you go they'll be like the sound 34 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: was not good when they released it, and you guys 35 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: and be like it wasn't good there either. All on me. 36 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: It's like, this is a hundred percent on very accurate 37 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: how they recorded it was. How it Billy? Do you 38 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: want a trade? It's uh, before we before we get 39 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 1: into the show today, I feel like I should introduce 40 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: our our co stars on this table. Yeah yeah, now 41 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: going to be here. That's a toasted bagel. We got 42 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: some Thomas Everything bagels. I usually used Serai. I'm not 43 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 1: sure if the ballistics on these, but I'm excited. I'm excited. 44 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: It's only gonna rec were the bad sounds of make it. 45 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: She's gonna sound like it all. It was just really frustrated. 46 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: It's gonna skip just the right words to make you 47 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: sound racist, and it's that's I don't know if you've 48 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: heard my accent, but that's any word. It's not hard 49 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 1: to do. Like, hey, do you hear that guy? Oh? 50 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: The racist guy? What do you say? We didn't have 51 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: to listen. So next up, we've got some fran France 52 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: original premium babels. These are from New York. Maybe that 53 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: means York fans frands. Let's see where they're really from. Oh, 54 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: I knew if it says I knew, I thought it 55 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: was some local things. And you guys are like fucking Portland. 56 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: God damn it. And then we've got uh more frands. 57 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: More friends, Yeah, we got some more friends. I had 58 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: some Pumpkin spice bagels. Oh here they are, uh, brought 59 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: by a friend of ours in the audience, Pumpkins Ice 60 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: premium bagels. So the taste of autumn is here. Now 61 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: we got this script, which who needs that ship? Um? 62 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: So we got we got little knife, we got mache 63 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: You take this one, Billy, this one's for bandits. It 64 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: does look like like this is not for it's not 65 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: for it's no, it's awesome, don't get me wrong, But 66 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: it's like, this is the criminals. It's my oldest machete. 67 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: But are you calling me a criminal? Yeah? That's that. 68 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: That is that is fair. So like you care for 69 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: the wrong people in the movie. And then we got 70 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: we got the backup just in case. This one's real 71 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: rusty and dull, so we don't want to use it 72 00:04:54,920 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: on the bagels. Yeah, this is the ghost knife. This 73 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: is the ghost knife. No, it's just it's a little billie. 74 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: You're getting real loose with the machete. That's just a 75 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: big gass knife. That's really all a machete is. Yeah, 76 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: so we're gonna play a little bit of what we 77 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: like to call bagel tennis here, um, which is exactly 78 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: what it sounds like. Although neither of us know how 79 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: to play tennis. We know the word love plays into it, 80 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: but don't tell us what it means. Um. We're just 81 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: gonna say it a lot as we knocked bagels around. 82 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: This is the splash zone. Um, hopefully bagel splashes most 83 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: of the machete. Have a wait to your hands, so 84 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: fingers crossed. I'm just it's working if I feel like 85 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: it's like, if I think something terrible like and make 86 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: it think that that's what I'm about to say, it'll work. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 87 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: Like it feels like it's out to get me. Don't 88 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: talk like a Nazi, but think like a Nazi and 89 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: then say normal stuff. Ah, don to thank something terrible 90 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: like now I'm gonna say this. It's like if you're 91 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: at Thanksgiving, you're talking to Grandma and then she walks off, 92 00:06:21,920 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: then you're talking your cousin. Yeah. People in the hello, yeah, yeah, 93 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: you can tell yeah, Okay, Well that's good. That's a start. 94 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: That's a start. M Hmma. You can't tell where the 95 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: bad neighborhood has been Portland because it's all you guys 96 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: keep a bad element in every Yeah, keeps everybody on 97 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: their toes, you know. So uh, I mean I think 98 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: we should just pray to the gods of microphones and 99 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: uh and and get into this son of a bitch 100 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: because these people paid to learn about somebody terrible. The 101 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: recording might be just the worst thing. Now, this is 102 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: gonna be a This is gonna be a unique experience 103 00:07:53,720 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: for the audience. Yeah all right, Billy Wayne Davis. Yes, 104 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: when you were a lad, a wee, a wee child, 105 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: did you ever have sea monkeys? No? No, you didn't know. 106 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: You didn't You saw the ads? You ever see ads 107 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: for X ray specks? Yeah? Okay, okay, you ever wondered 108 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: about who who made those? Do you ever wonder what 109 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: they believed about? I don't know, races? Uh no, I 110 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: mean that probably did play into it at some point 111 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: with the nineteen thirties with six Olympics. But yeah, yeah, yeah, 112 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: we're we're gonna talk about the guy who made those 113 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: both and some other things you've heard about today, and 114 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: then we're gonna talk about what what what what that 115 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: dude was into when he wasn't coming up with sea monkeys? 116 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: Um and uh it's it's it's gonna be a happier 117 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: story than some but yeah, there's no dead babies. It's 118 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: gotta be bad. It's gotta be bad. I do want 119 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: to see. I want to show of hands who hears 120 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: as a kid, had them or their parents spend money 121 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: on sea monkeys or X ray specks. That's a good number. 122 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: You that's fun. Remember these numbers, these these hands in 123 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: the air. Yeah, he's a solid ghost stealer. The object 124 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: recording this event he bought off of a ghost detective. Yes, 125 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: that's not a joke, that's a thing. That's just that 126 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: just happened. So if this recording works out, there is 127 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: a decent chance we will get to hear the ghost 128 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: of Saddam Hussein react to this podcast, which I'm very 129 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: excited about. Yeah, I know that that's exactly where he 130 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: would end up. Yeah, you would hope. There's a lot 131 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: of Derrito's in this town. So well, I'm just I'm 132 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: just gonna I'm just gonna roll into it, Howard or sorry, Harold, 133 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: We're up to a fucking great start. This is These 134 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: are the things that Sophie normally protects the audience from, 135 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: protects me from, um my incompetence. She is not here 136 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: right now, which means someone's going to get badly injured 137 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: and I am going to funk up even more than usual. 138 00:10:51,920 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: So heads up, Harold. Nathan Brownhood was born on March 139 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: thirty one nine in New York City, the city where 140 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: these bagels are not from. His parents, Jeanette Cohen and 141 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: Edward Brownhod were Jewish. This will become very important later on. 142 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: They had moved to Manhattan from Memphis. Jeannette's family was 143 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: in the toy business and his father ran a printing shop. 144 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: Herman Brown, they went from Memphis to Manhattan. Yeah, yeah, 145 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: you could afford to do that back in the day. Yeah. 146 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: If I was Jewish and lived in Memphis, I would. 147 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: I can't think of many reasons I wouldn't leave Memphis. 148 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm I'm a little biased that pyramid. 149 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: Memphis is the one with the pyramid, right. Also, it's 150 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: very dangerous. Yeah, I just don't trust any town with 151 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: the pyramid. Um So. Herman Brownhood, Harold's first cousin, recalled 152 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: the family is fairly normal for the area, saying, quote, 153 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: they were as religious as most other Jews. I know 154 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: they went to Synagoge during the Jewish holidays. I believe 155 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: he was bar Mitzbud. I probably was there. Again, this 156 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: will be very relevant later on in the story. Answer, 157 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure he did the thing we all do. Yeah. 158 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if that's okay. As 159 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: a child, Hermann recalled that Harold was always fooling around 160 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: with different kinds of gadgets. He had an inventor soul 161 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: and a natural understanding of mechanics. He graduated high school 162 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: during the height of World War Two and attended business 163 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: school in nineteen ninety six. At the time, he lived 164 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: in Brighton Beach, a heavily Jewish neighborhood in Brooklyn. Are 165 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: you guys catching the foreshadowing here? Where this is going ahead? Yeah, 166 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not a good place. Once he was 167 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: out of college, Harold bounced around an almost dizzying variety 168 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: of careers. He served for a brief time in the 169 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: Merchant Marine. Then he became a motors cycle racer, working 170 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: under the name the Green Hornet. And I think this 171 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: is before that. What what do you mean? That's not 172 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: a job. You can't you can't just tell your parents 173 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: like race motorcycles. I mean, why not? I just feel 174 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: like there's some I mean, Bruce Springsteen did, and look 175 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: at him, he's doing great. It is a little weird. 176 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna help sell stuff on boats now. A motorcycle 177 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: racer from our interact and our stories. Did he hit 178 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: his head? I mean, you know he was in the 179 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: Merchant marine. So there there's a lot of swinging like 180 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: ropes with hooks on him. Yeah, there's a good chance. Yeah, 181 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: because it sounds like you go from being on a 182 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: boat to being like, I'm just gonna race this motorcycle 183 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: for a list. He definitely picked up a couple of 184 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: head injuries in the motorcycle racing. Yeah. I don't know 185 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: people who commute with motorcycles and don't grab a couple. 186 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: Um now, Yeah, I don't anymore about that period of 187 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: his life. I wish I could find like a picture 188 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: him as the Green Hornet. I want to know what 189 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: the costume was. He doesn't either. So Harold also worked 190 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: as a stage magician. Under this strong reaction to the 191 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: word magician, What how do you feel about magicians, Billy Wayne, 192 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: I don't like, I'll understand it's art or whatever. I 193 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know that art is the term 194 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: i'd use. Yeah, it is, it is whatever. Yeah, it's whatever. Yeah, 195 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: we can you imagine like he specified stage magician, stage magician. Yeah, 196 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: don't trick. I didn't even I didn't even get to 197 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: his name. The great Telepo. I think that means he teleported, 198 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: but again I have no details on this, but that's 199 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: the name he worked on for the Green Hornet immediately terrible. 200 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: This one seems to be doing well without your microphone 201 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: bringing down the the whole experience. Yeah, it's been great. 202 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: This one's doing great now. It's like your microphone was 203 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: the enabler. And like this guy is sobered up now 204 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: that it's friends like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 205 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: all right, we're in business. I mean, I'm always always 206 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: the samed You guys, don't turn the microphones on in 207 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: the studio anyway, No, Sophie. Sophie's gonna let me like 208 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: say the things that can't ever go out on the 209 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: air first, the stuff that's bleeped out about what you 210 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: should do to Jeff bezoss House, like that shit. Fuck. Okay, 211 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to get a We're gonna have to 212 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: get that ship in post um. He heard you say, 213 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah he did. There's an echo in the fucking room. 214 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah heard, he's listening. That's an Amazon machete. If you're 215 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: low on toilet paper, it'll order it. I did get 216 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: the I did get the studio machete off Amazon, and 217 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful machete. Has got a supply he's got 218 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: he has more than I do. Yeah. So uh, back 219 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: to Harold. Now that we're fully operation, Harold had magician, 220 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: Harold the stage machician, magician machician. That was bad. Harold 221 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: segued rather naturally from racing and magician ng towards working 222 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: as a talent agent for other performers. Actually, this does 223 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: make that that's the first natural that's the first he's done. 224 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: That makes sense. You know what, I'm tired of doing 225 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: all the bullshit. I'm just gonna sell the guys who 226 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: do the bulls. Yeah, yeah, that's a good It's a 227 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: good cought. Not a bad kid. His price, his price. 228 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: Catch was Henry Lamore, one of the first magicians on television. 229 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: Lamore's claim to fame was a yearly scunt where he 230 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: would dive from New York's Flatiron Building forty ft down 231 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: into a pool of water just twelve inches deep. He 232 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: want to guess you know, I impressed by that. I 233 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: think I'd want to see it before I gave it 234 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: my proper reaction. I mean, the people, the fine people 235 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: at Guinness, who we know cannot be bought. UM certified 236 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: this as a world record. It is he's like, he 237 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: got this many people to believe, so um it would 238 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: it would be fair to say, among a couple of 239 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: other things that Harold brown Huod so far seemed to 240 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: have a passion for performance, But in nineteen fifty seven, 241 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: when he was thirty one, his father died. This spurred 242 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: him to make a change in his life. Starting in 243 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: the late nineteen fifties, Brownhood started inventing, filing patent after 244 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: patent for a variety of hitchy toys, products like amazing 245 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: hair raising monsters, which were basically a cross between a 246 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: troll doll and a chia pet. He had a peculiar 247 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: preference for selling live animals to children through the mail, 248 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: which is, here's the thing. You don't get to see 249 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: the result, and that's why you do something like that. Yeah, 250 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: you don't mail a pig to a kid without wanting 251 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: to see that kid open that pig. Also, can you 252 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: imagine being like, I bought you a horse. Mailman will 253 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: be here in four days with he says there's there's 254 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 1: holes in the packages. Well, he didn't sell anything as 255 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: cool as horses. One of his inventions was crazy crabs, 256 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: which were just normal terrified Heramid crabs male to your 257 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: door in a cardboard box. Holy ship. Yeah, he's he's good. 258 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: Think he's kind of funny. I'm being honest. So far 259 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: nothing to a business. You know, you knock on somebody's door, 260 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,239 Speaker 1: off and you run and they're like, who you get him? 261 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: What if we left a crab there? How do we 262 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: make money? I gotta go? So what? What made Crazy 263 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: Crabs special and sellable was the ad copy Harold wrote 264 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: for the comic books and kids magazines like Boy's Life, 265 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: where he sold his gimmicks. Here's the description he wrote 266 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: for his Crazy Crabs. As gentle as a pussycat. It 267 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: lives on land instead of water, does not bite unless mishandled. 268 00:19:54,320 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: It loves to be touched unless you touch it. Now 269 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: you touch it, it's gonna you don't get near it. 270 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: It won't bother you at all. Just leaving the box, 271 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: let it die on the on the porch. Yeah you 272 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: don't look shit, that's fucking it. Loves to be touched 273 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: and petted and a choice running for me. He's awesome. 274 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: I love this guy, really good time this guy, he 275 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: said it swinging from your fingers or just cuddling your 276 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: shoulder from like an adorable tame parrot, like a parrot 277 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: firm it perhaps, Oh man, I want that parrot that 278 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: can bite you. Does it talk? No? I want to 279 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: part with vices for hand. Yeah, that can't think pure 280 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: pure nature. I just want That's a toy for a 281 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: small here raiding, that's all it think. It's from the 282 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: beginning of his career as a toy designer, Harold Brown 283 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: had knew that lying to you he's so loose with 284 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: the terms of what he's doing. He's he's amazing, he's amazing. 285 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: So you wanted a toy and he just hand you 286 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: a hermit crabs as an uncle thing to do. That's 287 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: his whole target audience is like just half lit uncle's 288 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: late for a birthday party. When did you get you? 289 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: I got you a legal turtle? Good? So yeah, Harold. 290 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: Harold was aware very early on that the key to 291 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: making money was lying to children. Still is still yeah. Now, 292 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: hermit crabs were a good proof of concept, but you know, 293 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: there's only so many kids want crabs, right Like if 294 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: cram is in the name, you got a limited. So 295 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: Harold had another more ambitious dream. He wanted to male 296 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: children packets of Brian shrimp and pretend that they were 297 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: aquatic apes. Specific dream specific dream now. The inspiration for 298 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: this unique vision came in nineteen fifty seven when he 299 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: was in a pet store and saw a buffet of mushrooms. 300 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: He was chewing his fucking teeth. I want to go 301 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: on his pet start see your business idea. So he's 302 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: in this pet store, he's he's a bucket of Brian 303 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: shrimp being sold as fish food, not as pets, because 304 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: they're not pets, and he's Yeah. For the record, Brian 305 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: shrimp are very tiny. They're almost invisible to the naked eye. 306 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: When magnified, they look like a weird cross between a 307 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: centipede and a sea horse. They do not look any 308 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: logistic creatures. No rational person would consider them interesting by 309 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: the standards of most pets, but Harold thought Brian shrimp 310 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: were the perfect animal to sell and moss to children 311 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: around the country. You know who's dumb as hale, fucking 312 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: kids people. You can make those sons of bitches due 313 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: by anything. We don't know anything. You see how well 314 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: lawn darts did. Fuck dumb, He would later tell an interviewer. 315 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: I was always interested in wildlife and I was looking 316 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: for something that would interest and I was looking for 317 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: something that would interest other people in it. What do 318 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: you even say to that? You just even if you're 319 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: the journalists, you're just like, man, what are you doing? 320 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: You are full of ship God, I gotta print this. 321 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: So he started research later that year, in between working 322 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: on games like Older Dash and patenting, but with proof clothing. 323 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: For three years he experimented. He was a busy fucker 324 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: for three years. Don't have to prove the patent work, no, No, 325 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: you just gotta sell it. Yeah. Yeah, there's no internet 326 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: back then, so no, he's gonna come and be like, 327 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: there's a problem with this bulletproof shirts. Yeah. So for 328 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: three years he experimented with Brian shrimp but trying to 329 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: figure out ways to essentially freeze dry their eggs so 330 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: they could be safely ship. How long was working on this? 331 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: Three years? Three years? Three? It's hard, Okay, I'll give 332 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: it to him. It's not easy. There's a level of 333 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: like just sticking to it. No, he's not a lazy man, 334 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: because three years a long time to be like, how 335 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: am I gonna freeze these this fish food? All the 336 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: history is built by men and women with visions because 337 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: but they're not that stupid. Yeah, this is uh, this 338 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: is this is this is. This was a quest of 339 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: love for him. He loved the idea of selling Brian 340 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: shrimp to children. Uh and he yeah, he eventually figured 341 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: it out. Now, in nineteen sixty, his mom died of 342 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: a car crash, and later that year he revealed the 343 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: first iteration of what would prove to be his greatest innovation, 344 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: Instant Life, Essentially a packet of dry Brian shrimp eggs, 345 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: he sold forty nine cents. Now, at this stage, the 346 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: product did not work well. Harold later recalled keeping them 347 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: alive was a terrible struggle. So he makes them, but 348 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: they're they're still dying like like all the time. Jesus Well, 349 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: I mean they're Brian shrimp. I mean I understand. But still, 350 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: it's like the way he talks about it was kind 351 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: of just like just they die so fast. You can 352 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: hear him. It's terrible. They're real screamers. I'm blood lad. 353 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: My experiments didn't make him live longer, but it made 354 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: him real yelling. Yeah, yeah, you freeze him. It makes 355 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: him wild. Now, Harold promised Instant Happiness to the children 356 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: who purchased as Brian Shrimp, but his sales were less 357 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: than impressive. Even a kids like fuck off, fuck off, Yeah, 358 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want your fucking Brian instant have 359 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: you don't got cocaine? That would be the first Amazon 360 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: review today. Yeah. There were two problems. The first was 361 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: that the name Brian Shrimp did not inspire wonder in 362 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: the hearts of children. Brian is a bad marketing word 363 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: as a as a rule. The second was that all 364 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: the Brian shrimp he's sold kept dying. It was considered 365 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: incredibly lucky for just two of the little critters to 366 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: survive for thirty days. Not content to nature. Lucky. Yeah, 367 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: mag you got a puppy and it lived for thirty days, 368 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: You're like, that's pretty lucky. I mean that's when they're 369 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: at their cutest. How long do you need them after that? 370 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: I like, like this, I was pretending you guys, there's 371 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: no dead puppy. There's no real dead puppy. Now, Billy Win, 372 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: We're we're like maybe ten years off from a service 373 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: where they mail thirty day puppies to your house and 374 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: then you get a new puppy thirty days later. When 375 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: that one just sort of I wish that's so. Amazon 376 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: Genetics is working on it right now. It's a thirty 377 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: dollars laughing because they know it's true. This is coming, 378 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: this is going happening right now. Everyone's like, stop talking 379 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: about the future. Yeah, we're trying to be funny, and 380 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: you guys are like, it's gonna happen. Jeff Bezos was 381 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: at Christmas pretending to be a human for one brief 382 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: night when a friend of us said, I wish my 383 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: puppy could stay this way forever, and he was like, 384 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: I know how to fucking monetize this ship. Yeah, that's 385 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: how he sounds when he walks. So Like like all 386 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: great heroes in history, Harold was not content to let 387 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: nature beat him, so Mr brown House teamed up with 388 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: a marine biologist, Anthony d Agnostino, a micro crustacean expert. 389 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: They started claiming they'd invented a hybrid species are Temi 390 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: and Nios especially bred to be sold over the mail 391 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: to children. Brian shrimp already have eggs that essentially go 392 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: dormant in the right circumstances. Brown Hut and d Agostino 393 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: claimed their hybrid was even more survivable able to spend 394 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: weeks in the state of suspended animation. Brown had also 395 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: invented a mixture of what he called magic crystals. These 396 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: helps you know it's good science when the word magic wrong. Uh. 397 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: These apparently helped keep the Brian shrimp eggs alive. Now 398 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: it's still rather unclear to me if all this talk 399 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: of hybrids was complete bs or not. Almost certainly, but 400 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: the Brian shrimp sold by brown Hood and the Agostino 401 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: from the point forward showed a markedly greater tolerance for 402 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, shipping, and nobody really knows how they did it. Now. 403 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: Making the Brian shrimp more survivable was only one part 404 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: of the plan. Harold also had to invent a unique 405 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: lie to sell children. On the idea, he started packaging 406 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: his Brian shrimp and two little packets. The first was 407 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: labeled a water purifier, although it was actually just Brian 408 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: shrimp eggs. Harold's instructions were to pour this into the 409 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: water first and then let it sit for a few days. 410 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: During this time, unbeknownst to the child, the Brian shrimp 411 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: would sneak in sorry, just the way unbeknownst to them, 412 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: he'd sneak in their house they'd hatch and they would grow. Now, 413 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: the second packet, which supposedly contained Brian shrimp eggs, was 414 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: actually nothing more than die, which stained the now grown 415 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: Brian shrimp and made it look like they were appearing instantly. 416 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: That was a pretty fucking smart cod Like, that's a 417 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: good idea, I w waste of fucking energy. Why no, 418 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: you gotta impress the kids. They're not gonna stay impressed. 419 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: I mean, used to take it this far. It's so like, 420 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: do you think his friends are like, are you still 421 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: doing the thing? I mean, I hate to say it, 422 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: but he did make millions of dollars. There is one 423 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: friend who's like the whole time, like I told you 424 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: you could do it. Yea. He will go to waterpark again. 425 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: We're going to Maui this weekends. I love it. So 426 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: Harold's next and probably greatest innovation was to create a 427 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: bald face but beautiful lie about what his Brian shrimp were. 428 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: He hit upon the name sea monkeys and hired a 429 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: future Marvel artists to draw colorful depictions of humanoid looking 430 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: aquatic creatures for his comic book Adsture. So he used 431 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: that to get his Marvel job. Yeah, I think so 432 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: this is this is the hea. Do you want to 433 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: describe those sea monkeys to the audience. I mean they 434 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: look like if like you split the cone head's head 435 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: open and then ah, I mean they have like human features, 436 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: which is very strange, very unsettling. Yeah, and then but 437 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: they're they're also like lizard like. There's not monkey to them. Really, 438 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: they look vaguely ape like you know, but I mean 439 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: they have a not the dad's doing well. They have 440 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: an underground castle. Family looks happy. He's got a castle. 441 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: Definitely as a cat. It looks like they've got a 442 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: gardener because the plants are very nice around a couple 443 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: of kids. Yeah, you can see the idea, like by 444 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: these Brian shrimp and you'll have because that's what he 445 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: used his resume, Like, what have you done? You seen 446 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: this ship? Seen this ship? Everybody has these fucking monkeys. Yeah. 447 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna read a little bit from the ad copy, 448 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: which was written by her old Brownhood himself. So eager 449 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: to please, they can even be trained always clowning around 450 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: these troublesome pet troll sorry trollicksom which is not a word, 451 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: pet swim stunt and play games with each other because 452 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: they are so full of tricks, you'll never tire up 453 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: watching them. And raising sea monkeys is so easy even 454 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: a six year old can do it without help. Sea 455 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: monkeys eat very little, and they keep their waters so 456 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: clean they require only a minimum care. Although they love attention, 457 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: Anyone who enjoys the company of petch will adore sea monkeys. 458 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: Best of all, we even show you how to teach 459 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: them to obey your commands like a pack of friendly 460 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: trained seals. He's having fun, he's having a great time, 461 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: and up to this point, I'm totally on board with 462 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't hang out with him a lot. What is 463 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: what's the best lie you've told a child? Not my children? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. 464 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: But we did convinced my younger sister that we found 465 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: her under a rock, and then we found out years later. 466 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: She wasn't even upset. She just considered herself very lucky 467 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: because we probably loved one year, like Christmas or something. 468 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: I remember when you convinced you that you're living under 469 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: rock and we found you, and she was like, yeah, 470 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: I just thought, God, I'm lucky they found me. See, 471 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: you could have monetized that impulse. Billys rich fucking guy. 472 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: So Harold also hit upon the idea of selling his 473 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: sea monkeys with a two year life insurance policy, because 474 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: there's nothing kids love more than life, and oh my god, 475 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: so we play it every month, okay every month. Now 476 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: this all worked. Sea Monkeys took off like gangbusters, and 477 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: millions of little children, including like about a third of 478 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: the audience, it seems, herng their parrants for the one 479 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: or however much it was in your day it would 480 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: take to build their own marvelous underwater civilization. Most of 481 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: those kids were profoundly disappointed by the tiny, gross looking 482 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: little monsters that grew from the kids, but enough became 483 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: obsessed with Brian shrimp that there are still fan sites 484 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: for sea monkeys today. This is the thing people are into. Um. 485 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: Although Roy or someone in the audience when you said 486 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: there's still people that do it today just went, what 487 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: you know what the internet is, it's Nazis and weird 488 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: ship like this like, sea Monkeys, were an enormous success. 489 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 1: Hundreds of thousands of kids were sent out, netting millions 490 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: of dollars for Harold Brownhood and the Transience Corporation, his 491 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: partners in the venture. With this massive success, under his belt. 492 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: Harold began to put out other hit products. He invented 493 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: X ray specs, which he claimed her glasses that imparted 494 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: X ray vision to the wearer. Adds for the specs 495 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: inevitably showed. See this is how, this is how fucking 496 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: incompetence I am. Without the fucking paper, I'm useless. I 497 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: don't have the talent that this guy has that I got. 498 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: Just got paper. You know what, Billy? In here? You 499 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: know what, Billy. We are on page four and if 500 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: I know one thing about the number four, it means 501 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: that we should hit some bagels with some missions. Okay, yeah, 502 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: I think I didn't. Robert sent me in text today 503 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: he was like, did you get permission to do the 504 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: machete and bagel stuff? And I was like, I just 505 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 1: figured it's better to ask for forgiveness than yeah, yeah, 506 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: permission on that stuff. I'll just know from the past 507 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: when you're like, can I bring a machete, they always 508 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: say no, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, Billy, the dangerous thing 509 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: about serving the bagels, because we have a mic in 510 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: one hand, is that you've got to serve with your 511 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: machete hand, which means there's a chance the machete is 512 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: gonna go flying. Now. They're rusty. Awesome, but that's not 513 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: a plus. Tetanis feels good. Yeah, a little bit of 514 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: lock Jaws helps with I'm gonna whack it down. I 515 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: don't whack it this way. I love serving on zero 516 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: eleven tennis. Okay, you hit it though, Yeah, I think 517 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: just enough to piss it off. There's nothing more dangerous 518 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: than piste off throwing bagels. Oh, you're doing it the 519 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: responsible way because you care about the audience. I know. 520 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm want to throw it like this so you get 521 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: a good rate. No, don't. I also want to do 522 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: it like this, all right, all right? Oh yeah, just 523 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: so much. I feel it. I feel like I'm probably 524 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: more relaxed than you know, as a person. That's probably true. Yeah, 525 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: I felt okay about that. Yeah, I mean I'm out 526 00:36:54,680 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: of sighter. But so we've got plenty, we have so 527 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: many of you guys, Thank you. I assume this is 528 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: a collective manifestation of will from the audience. I was 529 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: in Alaska one time, okay, speaking of grifters. Yeah, I'm 530 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: in Alaska a bunch. It's awesome. Uh, they got a 531 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 1: good spirit up there. But I was, I was, I 532 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: put a beer down. This is back when I used 533 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: to drink. I put a beer down, and three minutes later, 534 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: four beer showed up on stage because people in the 535 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: like four different people. As soon as I was done 536 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,919 Speaker 1: with my beer, like, get him another one? He could 537 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 1: uh when I was like, Alaska is awesome. It's great. 538 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: It's it's it's a it's it's great because it's one 539 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: of the states that's testing vaguely what what you b 540 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: I could be. And I had a discussion online with 541 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: some people about Andrew Yang's plan for universal base IT income, 542 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: and one thing I said is that if you get 543 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: a problem with how many A R fifteens there are, 544 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: wait until how many more there are when people getting 545 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: a thousand dollars a month from the government. And somebody 546 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 1: from Alaska chimed in and said, we get like four 547 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: thousand bucks from the government every year, and yet people 548 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: spend it all on gun. Yes, everyone in armed in Alaska. 549 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: It's awesome. It's great, it is awesome. Yeah, now we 550 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: should we would probably get back to this whole. I know, 551 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: I just want to go to Alaska. Now, you know 552 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: what we could do? We should do a show there. 553 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: They don't even they don't even care what we're doing. 554 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: They're just happy when people show up. Oh man, we 555 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: could get bear guns. You gotta have a bear gun 556 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: in Alaska. It's safety because like a seatbelt for bears. 557 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: And also and also people, yeah, and people, so okay, yeah, 558 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: adds for the X rayspects. We're talking about X rayspects, 559 00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: Harold Brownett's other genius invention, um now adds for these specs. 560 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: It's inevitably showed a sleazy looking seventies man leering at 561 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: a woman in address. The implication, of course, is that 562 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: if you buy these X respects, you yeah, exactly here 563 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: you get they would sound like the like to like 564 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: boy Scouts and be like you want to look under 565 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,760 Speaker 1: girls close by these glasses. This is the boy Scouts 566 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: and we're fine. Face it was. That is true, it's 567 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: it was a wild time gay. No, then you get 568 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: your ass kicked, get out of here. No, no, now. Obviously, 569 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,439 Speaker 1: in reality they were not X rayspects. That would also 570 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 1: be horribly dangerous. There would be so much more cancer 571 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: if they were really X ray glasses. Um, they were 572 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: just a gimmick that basically created a double vision illusion 573 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: that made it look sort of like you could see 574 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: into your own hand. It was like a bunch of 575 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: slits into the plastic and stuff. I don't want to 576 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to bore you with un slits. Sounds 577 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: like it work. Um they did not let you see 578 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: through women's clothing. But I'm trying to just talk right there. 579 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: I've watched the Mighty Gymstone. Um. Yeah, the specs sold 580 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: very well, nonetheless, as did bron HUD's most brilliant invention. 581 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna like this one. This is his most brilliant 582 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: one yet, the Invisible Goldfish. I have some for sale tonight. 583 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: Get your money out. He was basically just shipping fish 584 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: food and an empty glass. It's amazing. I do have 585 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: a friend early on and like just people messing around 586 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: with the internet when we were figuring out what it was. 587 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: He got kicked off of eBay because he was trying 588 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: to sell a ghost in the jar. I laughed for 589 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 1: like two fucking days straight. That guy should have gotten 590 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 1: a fucking TV show. Well, no, and he won't. He 591 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,720 Speaker 1: had a good job. He wouldn't quit it to do comedy. 592 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: I was so mad at it, and I was like, 593 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: people have ever heard He's like I'm in charge of people, 594 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: and I was like, you need to be out there 595 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: doing stuff. The world needs you. He's so fucking funny. Yeah, 596 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: it was really good. Also, the the Invisible Goldfish came 597 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: with a hundred percent guarantee that you would not see 598 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,439 Speaker 1: the fish, which was the really easy to like, Yeah, 599 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: I told you, yeah, you fucking goldfish and though visible, Hey, 600 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 1: so you can't even fail him sometimes. Now, at this point, 601 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: we've all had fun with Harold Brown's story, But the 602 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: worst thing you could say about him is that his 603 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: products were a little bit of a scam, playing on 604 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: the reality distortion field generated by comic books and the 605 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: desire of small children to believe in wonderful things. But 606 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: of course, this is not just the story of a 607 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: man who scammed some kids out of their allowance money. 608 00:41:55,200 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: You see, Harold Harold Brown hood lived a second life 609 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: outside of the bustling world of shitty comic book scam toys, 610 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: and he funneled the profits from Sea Monkeys and X 611 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: ray Spects and Invisible Goldfish towards a very specific political end. Now, 612 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: I want to get a show of hands who spent 613 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: money on any of these products. Come on, get him 614 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: back up, Get him back up, get him back up, 615 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: all right, keep him in the air. That specific political 616 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: end was national socialism. Yeah, he's a fucking Nazi. Tanks 617 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: a lot you guys, thanks a lot. A lot of 618 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: people just learned. They helped fund the Area Nations tonight, 619 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. I just think that, what are you gonna 620 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: do to your millions? I got some plans? Oh shit, 621 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: he did, because like the way he sold stuff is 622 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,879 Speaker 1: the way that preachers work. Yeah, it's like they it's 623 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: like at the end of a comic book, which is like, oh, 624 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: it's a crazy fucking story, and you're all worked up, 625 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: and at the end you're like, hey, here's some ship 626 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: for three dollars, right, you got me? Yeah, and then 627 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: Nazism and then yeah yeah, and then he's like, you 628 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: know what the Jews, of which he was. Yeah. Now, 629 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: starting at some point after the nineteen sixties, he changed 630 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: his name from Harold Brownhood to Harold Vaughan Brownhod. There 631 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: we go, subtle Germanism, yea. Now, the Vans suggested he 632 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 1: came from German noble blood and was thus a true 633 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: Arian rather than a working class Jewish kid from Manhattan. 634 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: This is fifteen years after the stuff. Yeah. Yeah, in 635 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: the sixties is like right when they're taking off actually, okay, yeah, 636 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: this is the height of sea monkeys. Yeah, sixties, seventies. Yeah, 637 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: he's he's he's he's doing well, he's okay. Yeah, he's 638 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:12,919 Speaker 1: a Nazi. Yeah, but he was before. Yeah. Now, I'm 639 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: not really sure why Harold changed his name, and I'm 640 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: not really sure at what point he became enthralled with 641 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: um national socialism. Um. I would guess after you make 642 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: a crazy amount of money from selling dumb ship two kids, Yeah, 643 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 1: you start buying into your own bullshit a little bit, 644 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: so you're like, I'm bonn Man And you know who 645 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: else was good at selling bullshit too, kids? Hitler? Hitler 646 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: the King. Yeah. Now, what we do know is that 647 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: Harold was not particularly shy about his infatuation with fascism. 648 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: He lined his personal study with a poster autographed by 649 00:44:52,840 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: Hermann Gering and an inscribed picture of Benito Mussolini. Don't 650 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:07,280 Speaker 1: Salini like pretty cool? Right, that's the worst of the fascist. 651 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: If you want to know how much I like fascism, like, 652 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: he was bad. That's the fucking carrot top of fascism. 653 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: And I've got him on my wall. I got it, 654 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: that's my guy. Pretty cool, right. He spent some of 655 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 1: his Sea monkey money on a rare print of a 656 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: World War Two Luftwaffe aircraft signed by four top Nazi 657 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: ace pilots. Where do you even get gun shows? You get? 658 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: You buy that at a gun show. I know exactly. 659 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: You buy that at a gun show in Dallas, Texas. 660 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: I've seen that on sale. Yeah, yeah, it was just 661 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: some dude's barn or it grants pass like like that 662 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: was a great reaction, Like, yeah, we all know Josephine. 663 00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: Yeah that's very actor. I don't like how accurate that is. Yeah. 664 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: In short, he had the kind of office that only 665 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: a Nazi or a very specific kind of podcast host 666 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: would have. I I do have a gearing original, but 667 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: it's it's a tasteful nude. Yeah, I don't. I don't 668 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,800 Speaker 1: like him. I don't like him for the bombing of Britain. 669 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: I like him for his opiate addiction. He was a 670 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: real artist when it came to being addicted to painkillers. 671 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: One of one of the best, one of the best. 672 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 1: You know, You've got to separate the art from the artist, 673 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: that's all I'm gonna say, yeah. It seemed to affect 674 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 1: him a little bit, seemed to have affected London to Yeah. 675 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: He later get to his head. Yeah. Now, it's possible 676 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: that Harold's growing Nazism was responsible for his divorce from 677 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 1: his first wife. Maybe, why do you want to divorce 678 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 1: your husband? He's a Nazi? You know what, We're not 679 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 1: even going to deal with the paperwork. Yeah, don't the 680 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 1: extra I expect money. He keeps the Sea monkey money. 681 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 1: They had one child together, a boy who she took. Now, 682 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: some journalists who reported on him later in life did 683 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: manage to get in touch with his first wife. She 684 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: claimed to be quote unaware of his other activities, despite 685 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: their occasional contact, which may have been drew. Maybe not. 686 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: She got out. So I'm not gonna I'm not gonna 687 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,879 Speaker 1: not gonna labor too long on that. We'll talk about 688 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,839 Speaker 1: his second wife a little bit. Now, what's the nine 689 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: seventies rolled around? Those other activities that Harold was involved 690 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 1: in included membership in the Arian Nations. Now, if you 691 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,399 Speaker 1: haven't heard about these dudes, the Area Nations are based 692 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: up in Hayden Lake in the Great may not be 693 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 1: the right word in the state of Idaho, um, it's there. Yeah, 694 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 1: you and a lot of members of the Area Nations. 695 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: Actually they weren't there that night. They were not there. 696 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: There was just one scared kids and just me going, 697 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: you mean I can't smoke. You can't smoke in jail. 698 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: You can smoke in prison. I was like, well, let's 699 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: go to fucking prison. I want to say. They thought 700 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 1: it was pretty funny, and I knew I was gonna 701 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: get out in the morning so I could beat a 702 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,399 Speaker 1: little bit of a smartass, you know what I mean? 703 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: M hm. Now, the Aryan Nations had started off as 704 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 1: a single church in the Christian identity tradition. For those 705 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 1: of you who don't know what that means, Christian identity 706 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: beliefs focus around a couple of core concepts. Number one, 707 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: white people are the real Israelites. Number two, Jewish people 708 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:59,439 Speaker 1: are faking it. And number three, that's funny. You guys 709 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: are fake. Yeah, you guys are fake, and we're the Israelites. 710 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:08,399 Speaker 1: Your dad's Satan. Yeah, that's it in a nutshell. Why, 711 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: that's that's a weird speech. Ye. Can you show your work? 712 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: How did we come to these conclusions? You know that 713 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: they can billy, but it's just going to be a 714 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: pamphlet of why the courts aren't real because they're trying 715 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 1: you under a flag of admiralty. That is, you're saying, well, 716 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 1: can are you that? That sounds right? I don't even 717 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,800 Speaker 1: know what it means. Now. In nineteen fifty seven, the 718 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: same year A Board Harold come up with his famous 719 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 1: seal mummified Brian shrimp eggs to children plan. The founder 720 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: of the church, a dude named Wesley Swift, settled on 721 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 1: a name Church of Jesus Christ Christian because fascists are 722 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: not very creative people. Now in the late nineteen seventies, Yeah, 723 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 1: it's a good name, Jesus Christ Christian. It's strange, like 724 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: you have do you call it anything? Yeah? And he's 725 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: like Jesus Christ Christian. I mean, it's like it's either 726 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: it's either we go to the Church of Jesus Christ 727 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: Christian up in Hayden Lake, or we drive five and 728 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 1: a half hours to the movie theater we're in the 729 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 1: middle of Idaho. Yeah, I guess because I didn't have 730 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:28,280 Speaker 1: enough money for gas. Now, in the late nineties seventies, 731 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: a guy named Richard Butler took over and he moved 732 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 1: the church to a big compound in the woods the area. 733 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, look, we're not against We're all 734 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,760 Speaker 1: fans of compounds in the woods here. That that's that's 735 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,800 Speaker 1: that's why we do most of what men do to 736 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: get a compound in the day, I'll have it in 737 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 1: the woods. That's why I'm moving towards my career goal 738 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: of becoming a freelance cult leader tax situations. You want 739 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 1: to full time, y'all, y'all need a leader. I'm pretty 740 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,839 Speaker 1: free for more months. I can do it hours a week. 741 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,440 Speaker 1: Only do weird sex ones though that's only want well, 742 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,760 Speaker 1: of course, yeah, yeah, I ain't in the murder cults. 743 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: I don't do that. The area Nations would be a 744 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: central location in virtually every act of white supremacist terrorism 745 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: that occurred from the end of the nineteen seventies up 746 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: until two thousand one. Butler himself is an interesting guy, 747 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: and we're definitely gonna we're gonna be talking about Richard 748 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 1: Butler in a future episode. But for now, what's most 749 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,760 Speaker 1: important is that you know his middle name was Guerrant, 750 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,320 Speaker 1: which I think is objectively guerrant, Like nobody's fucking g 751 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:43,399 Speaker 1: I R n T. That's fucking stupid. It explains the anger. Yeah, 752 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 1: I would be pissed. Yeah, he's mad. Yeah. Also, if 753 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna start like a what supremacy thing like that, 754 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,959 Speaker 1: you need to do it in the woods, you gotta 755 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,919 Speaker 1: do in the woods because they don't need to see 756 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 1: any other people. I guess we are the bet. There's 757 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 1: nobody else with a it's just us and the other day. 758 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 1: I don't think we're the base. He just shoots the 759 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: TV so old Garrant. Butler grew up in Los Angeles, California. 760 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: He majored in aeronautical engineering. In his youth, he was 761 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: a member of the Silver Shirts, an American fascist organization 762 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 1: that we're basically the Proud Boys of the nineteen thirties. 763 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: He had a successful career as an engineer, and he 764 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: moved to Idaho in the mid fifties in order to 765 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 1: become the human center of American fascism. Like Harold, he 766 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: was an inventor. Butler held the American and Canadian patents 767 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 1: for quick Repair Tobe Bliss tires. So that's neat to 768 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 1: what quick repair to Bliss tires? That's pretty cool. Yeah, 769 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 1: it's pretty It's a weird thing, to be guess. You 770 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 1: got tires. You're funding the Nazis too. I don't know, 771 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how tires work. Maybe we moved on. Yeah. 772 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,919 Speaker 1: In the Latin nineteen seventies and early nineteen or sorry, 773 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 1: the late nineteen seventies and early nineteen eighties was a 774 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 1: time of growing activity and extremism from the fascist rite. 775 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy nine, the KKK attempted to kick a 776 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: bunch of Vietnamese refugees out of the town of Sea 777 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: Drift on the grounds that they were too good at 778 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,720 Speaker 1: crab fishing. Hundreds of clansmen from around the country rallied 779 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 1: and Sea Drift boats. You gotta problem with that, billy, 780 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 1: That's the reason they gave. Yeah, you guys are too 781 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,879 Speaker 1: good at fishing. It turns out they were not fans 782 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 1: of the free market. But could you understand how in 783 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,320 Speaker 1: saying that complaint is like where the superior race? You 784 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 1: guys are too good at this thing. You're like, I'm okay, 785 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 1: I don't even know where to start. We're just gonna 786 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: go keep crab fishing, okay. So hundreds of clansmen from 787 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: around the country rallied and Sea Drift boats were burned. 788 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 1: People were attacked uniformed KKK members patrolled the coast with rifles. 789 00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,320 Speaker 1: All this came a matter of weeks after the Greensboro massacre, 790 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 1: in which claims sman murdered five communist activists in North 791 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 1: Carolina and got off essentially scott free. That same year, 792 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,360 Speaker 1: Harold von brown Hut, inventor of Sea Monkeys, was arrested 793 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 1: on an illegal weapons charge in La Guardia Airport. The 794 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: cause of the arrest was a device he had patented 795 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 1: earlier that year, a spring whip defense mechanism he marketed 796 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 1: as the Kiyoga Agent M five. It was essentially a 797 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 1: telescoping baton for beating people with. Now, the ads for 798 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:32,479 Speaker 1: the ko invented I thought about hitting people with a stick, 799 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 1: but at first was his hard and it was like 800 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,480 Speaker 1: and now I made it. I do live in the woods. 801 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:55,359 Speaker 1: Why now? The ads for the Kioga Agent M five 802 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: started with this text. When your capital letters worse to nightmare, 803 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 1: but comes capital letters real and suddenly you are face 804 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 1: to face with a mugger capital letters. You don't need 805 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 1: a gun, no self defense device that you can get 806 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: without a license. It can make you safer or give 807 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: you more protection. Strike down any attack of regardless of 808 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: sizer strength with capital letters, kiyoga, the steel cobra. Hell yeah, 809 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,359 Speaker 1: he knew his audience. Yeah, I'm not mad at him 810 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 1: for that. Billy Way, I got a cobra. Wanna magic 811 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 1: stick like that. I'm gonna show you the ad for 812 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 1: the kid. What don't you describe to It's I mean, 813 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 1: it just looks like the It looks like a B 814 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 1: movie cover from the seventies. It's like a Richard Branson, 815 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 1: not Richard Brnchard Bronson. I would say the guy in 816 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 1: the cyner looks a little bit like Ringo, but yeah, 817 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 1: maybe Bronson is a better pick. Yeah, I mean I 818 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,359 Speaker 1: think that's who they're trying to go, but it does. Yeah, 819 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 1: it just looks like a Beatle version of him. And 820 00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,919 Speaker 1: then there's like a mummy, and then there's a guy. 821 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,800 Speaker 1: There's like a woman, like a sexy woman just about 822 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,359 Speaker 1: to knock to shut out of a dude, and there's 823 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 1: like a nerve with sticks are conspicuously white, and all 824 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,880 Speaker 1: of the muggers are indeterminate. They have been in the 825 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 1: sun longer, which is very Yeah, it's very clear. There's 826 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 1: no risk though. Ninety day free trial. So the big 827 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: text on the ad. Just walk around and some people 828 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 1: and if you don't like it, send it back. Like 829 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,320 Speaker 1: a quarter of the page is just the all caps, 830 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:39,360 Speaker 1: high font words you don't need a gun, which I 831 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 1: can think of very few things that are good that 832 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 1: start that way. You'll need a gun. You don't need 833 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 1: a gun. But under here it's it's so effective, it's 834 00:56:50,560 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 1: almost too good to be true. A thunderbolt of life 835 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 1: saving power at your command. Fucking it's remarkable. It's remarkable. 836 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 1: I mean, just advertisers today are just lazy guy your ship. 837 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 1: They're just garbage. There's some links at the bottom beginning 838 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: you don't need a gun, Disney World, right, hold on, 839 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 1: go on now. The Kiyoga Agent telescoping beat stick was 840 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 1: a product Almost Taylor made for American neo Nazis, many 841 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 1: of whom had pre existing criminal records and we're unable 842 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 1: to legally purchase firearms. The actual ad advised the weapon 843 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 1: as a purchase for people who might need a gun 844 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: but can't get a license. Are you too much of 845 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: a criminal for a pistol? Did the government find out 846 00:57:55,720 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 1: what a piece of ship you are? Week right now, 847 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 1: Jesus pride, it's not dumb. It's just evil. Yeah, no, 848 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 1: it is it. Yeah. Now, the Kiyoga M five was sold, 849 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 1: among other places, in Spotlight magazine, a Holocaust de Nio 850 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 1: publication started by Willis Carto, founder of the Liberty Lobby 851 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 1: and basically our great nation's first Richard Spencer. We'll come 852 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 1: back to this in a little bit. So police at 853 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 1: LaGuardia arrested Von Brown Hunt for carrying six ki Yoga's 854 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 1: through the airport. In court, his lawyer successfully defended him 855 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 1: by arguing that this telescoping baton was quote not a 856 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 1: bludgeon and thus did not meet the definition of a 857 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 1: banned weapon. The actual ad promised it's hornet's nest of 858 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 1: piano wire steel springs, inflicting scruciating agony, but apparently that 859 00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 1: did not qualify it as a bludgeon. He is a bludgend. 860 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 1: What he didn't say, bludgend? What agony could be anything? 861 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 1: Heartbreak can cause you agony? Yeah, you lose this thing. 862 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 1: He's so sad. Now, Harold may have actually been saved 863 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 1: by his complete incompetence as an inventor. During the court case, 864 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 1: his art his lawyers staged demonstration where they hit somebody 865 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 1: with the baton to prove that it was actually a 866 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 1: really shitty weapon. So part of his defense was literally 867 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 1: like I did such a bad job that this doesn't 868 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 1: count as a weapon. Hit hit me, you know what? 869 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 1: Hit him with you. He's like that guy who who 870 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 1: promised to drink the what was it that that round 871 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 1: up fertilizer or something? Oh no, no was that? Huh? 872 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,960 Speaker 1: Someone had the name glyco phosp faith. That's the fucking thing. 873 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 1: But with a little bit more follow through, not much more, 874 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 1: a little bit more. I'll do do it. Yeah, I'll 875 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 1: do it. I'll have him do it. I'll have this 876 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:08,560 Speaker 1: guy my lawyer hired do it. Do it now. In 877 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 1: September of nine, a white supremacist terror group called The 878 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Order was formed during a meeting of the Area Nations 879 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 1: in Hayden Lake. This group would go on to commit 880 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 1: several murders and rob more than four million dollars, some 881 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 1: of which was spent on heavy weaponry for the KKK 882 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 1: and neo Nazi groups, armored cars and ships. I think 883 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 1: that's what funded them before the armored car robberies. Yeah. Now, 884 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,880 Speaker 1: in September of nineteen eighty four, when the Order was 885 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, rolling rolling, right, along, the Area Nations hosted 886 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 1: another conference. The pamphlets from that time listed a number 887 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 1: of outstanding Area Nationalist leaders for praise. One of them 888 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 1: was Harold von brown Hut, inventor of Sea Monkeys. Since 889 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 1: the Area Nations was a gathering of different fascist groups 890 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 1: and all the different leaders singled out were listed as 891 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,439 Speaker 1: belonging to separate organizations, Harold was noted as the leader 892 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 1: of the Imperial Order of the Black Eagle. I mean, yeah, 893 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 1: my son makes up a lot of weird names too, 894 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 1: That's what it is. Also, was this like a group 895 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 1: of neo Nazi people? Thank you, John? So this is 896 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 1: like a meeting of different ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's 897 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 1: it's like a bunch of different ones. I mean, there, 898 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 1: I understand that. But do you think at one point 899 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 1: during that meeting, they're like, are you the Sea monkey guy? Yes, mom, 900 01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 1: Sea Monkeys? It hell yeah, you know, just because they're 901 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 1: not there are the they're those type of dudes, you know, 902 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 1: they're like there are a lot of like backwoods dudes 903 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 1: like millionaire made see see people pussy with eyes. Just 904 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 1: that kind of conversation went on. Do you know what 905 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 1: I mean? You know what the to recognize them. These 906 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,439 Speaker 1: guys would have had to have read a comic book. 907 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:07,600 Speaker 1: Well touche now uh. The Imperial Order of the Black 908 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,920 Speaker 1: Eagle met in New York City in the early nineteen 909 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,400 Speaker 1: eighties in a place called the Estonian House in Manhattan. 910 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,600 Speaker 1: Speakers they hired included Robert Miles, a Christian identity theologist 911 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 1: to in nineteen seventy one was convicted of a bomb 912 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 1: plot to stop the integration of public schools in Michigan. 913 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 1: In the early nineteen eighties, Miles became the chief patron 914 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 1: of a philosophy known as the Northwest Imperative, which is 915 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 1: the idea that since the Pacific Northwest is the whitest 916 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 1: part of America, Nazis out to just moved there in 917 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 1: mass and take it over. Now. An Imperial Order newsletter 918 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 1: written by von Brownhood described Robert Miles as a famous 919 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,480 Speaker 1: opponent of the Communist Zionist conspiracy who is nationally known 920 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 1: and rightist political movements that reflect the highest names and 921 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 1: ideals of the white race. Is a big, big fan 922 01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 1: of Robert Miles. Now. In February, shortly after the Order 923 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,920 Speaker 1: dissolved in a series of gunfights and betrayals, Harold Bond 924 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 1: Brownhood spoke on behalf of Reverend Butler at an Area 925 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 1: Nations meeting at a Washington chariton. That's where you want 926 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 1: to do that fucking mating is a Sharitan. There's just 927 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 1: like one family on vacation at that shared in there, 928 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 1: like this is a weird shared in. Hey, honey, you 929 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,200 Speaker 1: notice how many guys with weird haircuts. I don't remember 930 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:31,439 Speaker 1: Nazis existed anymore, but this whole Sharton has a lot 931 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 1: of Nazis. One of them hit me with a stick, 932 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 1: but it didn't really hurt all that. But it didn't 933 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 1: hurt at all. I'm not sure. He just right off 934 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 1: and he said the agony. I just look, that's my 935 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 1: favorite part of some antiquity, like the way they think. 936 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,400 Speaker 1: And then we'll go to Shritan. I'll like it. It's nice. 937 01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 1: It's nice, you know that. What they do is they 938 01:03:58,080 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 1: do a good job again in the coffee at on 939 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:05,160 Speaker 1: time like that and in yourself. And they're good for 940 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:11,520 Speaker 1: Stalen and my other group. I'm Laparta. Now. The cause 941 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,560 Speaker 1: of the day at the Sheraton meeting was the repeal 942 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 1: of the Fourteenth Amendment, which made black people equal citizens 943 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 1: with equal protection under the law. At the meeting, one 944 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,480 Speaker 1: white supremacist attendee recalled Von brown Hut as a guy 945 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 1: who didn't want too much exposure. He was kind of 946 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 1: a mysterious guy. He made his statement in favor of 947 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 1: the separation of races, and he got out. Keep him apart, 948 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 1: I gotta go. Later in von brown Hut wound up 949 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 1: in legal proceedings again, this time is part of the 950 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:49,120 Speaker 1: indictment of an Ohio klansman Grand Dragon, Paul R. Roach, 951 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 1: who was charged with violating federal gun laws. Von brown 952 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 1: Hut was not actually charged in this for reasons I 953 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 1: can't explain, but he was accused of giving Roych eleven thousand, 954 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 1: nine hundred and fifty four dollars of Sea Monkey money, 955 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,040 Speaker 1: which Roych used to purchase eighty three semi automatic pistols 956 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 1: and rifles allied it. He probably shipped him the same 957 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 1: way he did the Crabs. He's knocked on a door 958 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 1: or ann, and I said four pistols. That's what I said. 959 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:31,440 Speaker 1: According to the Washington Post quote, Assistant U S Attorney 960 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,600 Speaker 1: Thomas M. Bower, who prosecuted Roych, said the defendant and 961 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,520 Speaker 1: Von Brownhood, we're friends. He said. Von Brownhood was prepared 962 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,360 Speaker 1: to testify at the trial that he had lent Roych 963 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 1: the money for the purchase and then took possession of 964 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,880 Speaker 1: the guns to secure the loan. The trial was called 965 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,600 Speaker 1: off after Roych pleaded guilty to one count of illegally 966 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,520 Speaker 1: transporting firearms across state lines. Von Brown Hunt was very 967 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 1: cooperative and pleasant with us. Bower said, he brought some 968 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:59,760 Speaker 1: of his toys along, including the Sea monkeys. They check 969 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:05,000 Speaker 1: him out, This guy about twelve tho dollars and guns 970 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:09,919 Speaker 1: for a Nazi. But look at these little guys. They'll 971 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:18,160 Speaker 1: dance if you poke them. As the ladies panty again. 972 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 1: That was the assistant U S attorney by Harold Von 973 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,560 Speaker 1: Brownhood was will the funck into his support of the 974 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 1: American fascist movement. Still going strong Man now. That year, 975 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 1: his homie, Richard Butler wound up dealing with a lawsuit 976 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,120 Speaker 1: as a result of the fact that he headed up 977 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,960 Speaker 1: a violent hate movement that murder people. The Sea Monkey 978 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 1: inventor decided to help his friend by dedicating a chunk 979 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,680 Speaker 1: of the profits from the sale of his Kioga agent, 980 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 1: M five telescope and baton to Butler's legal defense. In 981 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,200 Speaker 1: a newspaper to his followers. Butler noted that the manufacturer 982 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 1: has made a pledge of twenty five dollars to my 983 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,080 Speaker 1: defense fund for each one soul to air in Nation supporters. 984 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,680 Speaker 1: He advises people to write and in small letters in 985 01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 1: the order for him in order to ensure the funds 986 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,000 Speaker 1: were properly located. So that's good, right, It's nice helping 987 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:14,480 Speaker 1: a buddy out. Hi, man, Hey, you know, I don't 988 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 1: like asking for favors, but you know how I'm trying 989 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 1: to start a rice war. People are rolled up at 990 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 1: me about that government government. Could I have some of 991 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:38,880 Speaker 1: that money? You have the beaten money and the monkey money. 992 01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you something, I ain't above taking the monkey money. 993 01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 1: I'll be in the brochure. Butler called the Kyoga a 994 01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,200 Speaker 1: fine article for self protection, and all whites are going 995 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,360 Speaker 1: to need all the protection they can get in the 996 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 1: near future. That same year, Harold von Brown had conducted 997 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,400 Speaker 1: an interview with the c at All Times where I guess, 998 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,760 Speaker 1: to his credit, he spoke honestly about his racist beliefs. 999 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 1: He described his hatred of inscrutable slanty Korean eyes and said, 1000 01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 1: you know what side I'm on. I don't make any 1001 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:17,719 Speaker 1: bones about it. He did not any goddamn bones. Bones, 1002 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 1: silbones children, you sell them pre bones. It'll grow now, 1003 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 1: as you might expect. The fact the inventor of ex 1004 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,680 Speaker 1: respects and sea monkeys was buying arms and fundraising for 1005 01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,640 Speaker 1: literal neo Nazis did not escape the notice of the 1006 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 1: mainstream press. The Washington Post, who in that day cared 1007 01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 1: a little bit more about cantering fascism, put together an 1008 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,920 Speaker 1: utterly damning article about the toy inventor's Nazi connections, But 1009 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,759 Speaker 1: that was not the most damning aspect of their coverage 1010 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 1: of Harold's life. To his eternal shame, the Post revealed 1011 01:08:55,400 --> 01:09:02,760 Speaker 1: for the very first time that Harold von Brownhood was Jewish. Yeah, 1012 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 1: that funked up. It's fucking wild right now. There are 1013 01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,160 Speaker 1: a wide variety of things you would not want to 1014 01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:16,360 Speaker 1: be as a Nazi, but Jewish is probably top of 1015 01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:22,360 Speaker 1: the list. Yeah, hard to pick a one above that. 1016 01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:30,760 Speaker 1: I can't I can't really think of anything now. The 1017 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:34,480 Speaker 1: Washington Post coverage first revealed the truth behind Harold's parentage 1018 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,759 Speaker 1: and ethnicity. It also included an interview with Irwin Swall, 1019 01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 1: a director for the Anti Defamation League, who said, we've 1020 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,519 Speaker 1: long been monitoring Harold on Brownhood. He's linked to some 1021 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,479 Speaker 1: of the most extreme racist and anti Semitic organizations in 1022 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:50,640 Speaker 1: the country. He has a reputation of being a generous contributor. 1023 01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,040 Speaker 1: So that's cool, and we're going to talk about you 1024 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,600 Speaker 1: think he was a generous contributor because he was like 1025 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,599 Speaker 1: he's like, feels guilty. He's like, oh, you guys, once 1026 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,680 Speaker 1: you find out something, you're gonna be so mad at me. 1027 01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,439 Speaker 1: I think he was buying his way into the cool. 1028 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:11,880 Speaker 1: Oh man, when this comes out, you guys here, you're 1029 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,479 Speaker 1: gonna hate me. Really, I know for a fact you're 1030 01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:18,519 Speaker 1: gonna hate me. Remember me for the weapons, I thought, 1031 01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 1: Remember not for the religion of my parents. You're gonna 1032 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:30,920 Speaker 1: hear something. Think about now we're gonna hear how this 1033 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,840 Speaker 1: all shook out once the news broke. But you know what, 1034 01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:38,360 Speaker 1: we gotta shake right now. We're gonna add some fucking 1035 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,560 Speaker 1: bagels and some nights. If I just what if I 1036 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,160 Speaker 1: just pulled my dick out, You're wrong. It's about to 1037 01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:48,240 Speaker 1: get weird as hail. It's Portland's everybody just be like 1038 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:53,920 Speaker 1: finally and they just take their clothes off. I thought 1039 01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,320 Speaker 1: this was an origy they've been talking for two hours. 1040 01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:04,360 Speaker 1: This stage is normally dicks from left to right. Yeah, now, no, 1041 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:11,000 Speaker 1: you don't. That's obscene. That is obscene. You throw packaged 1042 01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:19,200 Speaker 1: bagels like a decent Christian. Okay, all right, all right, 1043 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,479 Speaker 1: these are the pumpkin spice ones. No, but how are 1044 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,200 Speaker 1: you going to serve back if you don't have machette 1045 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,400 Speaker 1: in your hand? What if I do it? Well, you're 1046 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:29,559 Speaker 1: not gonna know. We've done this enough. I know what's 1047 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:33,479 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Nobody's good at this game. No, this is 1048 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:41,519 Speaker 1: not a crowd. Grab another, grab another, Okay, yeah, you 1049 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:46,800 Speaker 1: can keep those. I don't want them. I don't like 1050 01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,759 Speaker 1: that pumpkin spie, don't. Okay, here we go, and Shannon, 1051 01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:55,320 Speaker 1: the way you throw it a little, it's not a picture. 1052 01:11:55,479 --> 01:12:02,839 Speaker 1: He's not a picture. There's equipment. Also, it looks sturdy. 1053 01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 1: But you know stuff. Well, I mean, someone's got to 1054 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,960 Speaker 1: be angry at me every time we do this and 1055 01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 1: Sophie's not here. It's your job to be frustrated. It is, 1056 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:16,040 Speaker 1: it comes naturally, a thank you? Thank you? Is that 1057 01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,640 Speaker 1: a stool? No, it's not. I don't know where the 1058 01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,680 Speaker 1: funk they went, dude, I don't know either, Like I 1059 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 1: don't think about where things are. There's a hole under there. Okay, 1060 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,560 Speaker 1: thank you or hit them. You're a roadie that you 1061 01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,360 Speaker 1: came out of nowhere. That was awesome, all right. It's 1062 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:35,080 Speaker 1: wearing a black shirt and he's just like he would 1063 01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:40,760 Speaker 1: do this, like what's a baseball guyey man? They can 1064 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 1: sako that's what You've done more drugs than him. That's 1065 01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:56,040 Speaker 1: a fit barely. Yes, that's cool. I gotta say that 1066 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,160 Speaker 1: is by far the best that's ever Yeah, that was cool. 1067 01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,000 Speaker 1: You know, we've hit a lot of bagels on this pod. 1068 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,639 Speaker 1: It's never worked. It's always like that has a let down. 1069 01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:09,960 Speaker 1: At that time, it was like we did it like 1070 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,400 Speaker 1: like of the stick is that it's never very good, 1071 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,920 Speaker 1: Like it's always a big bummer that we build up 1072 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,760 Speaker 1: for hours. That was actually cool. That was cool. Yeah, 1073 01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:23,880 Speaker 1: glad that happened on the Life Show. I'll beat it 1074 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,040 Speaker 1: didn't get recorded, no under, no way, no way, no way, no. 1075 01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,719 Speaker 1: This is a beautiful memory that no one else will share. 1076 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:41,680 Speaker 1: So back to the Nazis. Well, the Kyoga Baton fundraiser 1077 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,400 Speaker 1: is what first drew mainstream attention to Harold. The reality 1078 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:47,839 Speaker 1: is that he was almost certainly funneling tens of thousands 1079 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,240 Speaker 1: of dollars, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars if 1080 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,840 Speaker 1: his Sea monkey profits into the Area Nations for years. 1081 01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,760 Speaker 1: This continued throughout the nineteen eighties and up until at 1082 01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:00,360 Speaker 1: least nineteen If you paid for sea monkeys or any 1083 01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,000 Speaker 1: Appareld's other inventions up to this point, you may have 1084 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:08,040 Speaker 1: contributed to the growth of the Area Nations k groups. 1085 01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,719 Speaker 1: You might have bought those twelve dollars of clan guns. 1086 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:14,000 Speaker 1: There's no way to know. Isn't the world awesome? It's great? 1087 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:19,559 Speaker 1: Nobody would have guessed that if everyone's thinking of it. Yeah, well, 1088 01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,519 Speaker 1: yeah exactly, But that you guess. You guess that you're like, oh, yeah, 1089 01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,599 Speaker 1: I'm paying for bombs to be dropped on random people. 1090 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,599 Speaker 1: You never guess the money I spent on those sea 1091 01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:32,880 Speaker 1: monkeys bought Nazi machine guns like that. Nobody calls that ship. Yeah, 1092 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:43,519 Speaker 1: where where'd you get that toy? Oh that's not h 1093 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,160 Speaker 1: on the woods. Somewhere there's some hippie guy who was 1094 01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,240 Speaker 1: just like all on buying his X ray specs and 1095 01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,160 Speaker 1: sea monkeys. And that's gonna keep me pure, poor son 1096 01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:58,519 Speaker 1: of a bitch. Now, tell me two things. I really 1097 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:08,120 Speaker 1: believe it in this world now. When Richard Butler, head 1098 01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,280 Speaker 1: of the Aryan Nations, was questioned about one of his 1099 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:14,200 Speaker 1: major backers being potentially Jewish and thus a direct descendant 1100 01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:19,559 Speaker 1: of the devil according to his theology, we have a question, 1101 01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:29,800 Speaker 1: Mr Butler, how do you feel inside? M hm. He 1102 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,800 Speaker 1: cited von Brown Hud as a close friend and a 1103 01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,920 Speaker 1: member of the Aryan race who has supported us quite 1104 01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:42,280 Speaker 1: a few years. So that's interesting. Yeah, And then he 1105 01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 1: said something dumb like some something crazy like and if 1106 01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:49,679 Speaker 1: he was Jewish, I could have smelled it. We we've 1107 01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,000 Speaker 1: basically wind up there at the end. That's what it's always, Yeah, 1108 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,559 Speaker 1: where it's always something like I could see his horns 1109 01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,679 Speaker 1: if you know, you're just like what the lesson here 1110 01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:00,960 Speaker 1: is that you can't and kind of buy your way 1111 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,719 Speaker 1: into be in a Nazi. Yeah, yeah, it works. Apparently 1112 01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,320 Speaker 1: it's not good people. They're not they're not they're not 1113 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,960 Speaker 1: ideologically consistent people. They're not as the rest as you 1114 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,120 Speaker 1: would have them as they would have you believe. So 1115 01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:15,840 Speaker 1: I guess say what you will about the tenants of 1116 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,479 Speaker 1: national socialism. It's not always an ethos like when enough 1117 01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,640 Speaker 1: money comes on at the table people. Yeah, it's just 1118 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:28,400 Speaker 1: more I just want to hit stuff. So now, in 1119 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,400 Speaker 1: that article on Harold bon broun Hud, The Washington Post 1120 01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,479 Speaker 1: pointed out that he was far from the only Jewish 1121 01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,880 Speaker 1: Man to ever go full Nazi quote. In nineteen sixty five, 1122 01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:38,920 Speaker 1: The New York Times tough. It was a tough spot 1123 01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,000 Speaker 1: to be in. It's a rough one, man, It's a 1124 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:47,160 Speaker 1: tough like hear me out. I think first this has 1125 01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,760 Speaker 1: been going on. You're like, you don't want to be 1126 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:53,639 Speaker 1: in that position. I don't think. In nineteen sixty five, 1127 01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,719 Speaker 1: The New York Times disclosed the Jewish identity of Daniel Burrows, 1128 01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,760 Speaker 1: a high ranking klansman and former American Nazi Party member 1129 01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,639 Speaker 1: who then shot himself to death. In nineteen Chicago, Nazis 1130 01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,000 Speaker 1: rallied into the leadership of Frank Collin, the son of 1131 01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:09,760 Speaker 1: a Jewish concentration camp survivor. His family name had been coned. 1132 01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,200 Speaker 1: I know, fucking wild, right, Like, what do you even 1133 01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,600 Speaker 1: say to that ship? It's fucking crazy. Yeah, but my 1134 01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:21,000 Speaker 1: dad sometimes I had to be home at ten thirty 1135 01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:27,280 Speaker 1: and I was like, I rebailed. Now, it's probably worth 1136 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:33,800 Speaker 1: probably worth noting to him or something. You took it 1137 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:41,639 Speaker 1: so far, dude. It's worth mentioning that Miloonopolis, a prominent 1138 01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:45,080 Speaker 1: fascist who is a lengthy documented history of conspiring with 1139 01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:49,280 Speaker 1: neo Nazis to push propaganda, often defends himself from allegations 1140 01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,720 Speaker 1: of being a Nazi by pointing out that he is 1141 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:55,000 Speaker 1: gay and Jewish, and as confusing as this seems, neither 1142 01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:59,040 Speaker 1: of those factors precludes one from being a Nazi. Anyone 1143 01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,640 Speaker 1: can be a Nazi. That's the beauty. Beauty is the 1144 01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:06,320 Speaker 1: wrong word, but that's Nazism. You just have to have 1145 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,800 Speaker 1: Nazi in your heart. You got it in your heart? Yeah? 1146 01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:14,720 Speaker 1: Are you hateful for no reason? Are you up in 1147 01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,559 Speaker 1: the morning? Right? There's a lot of hate in here. 1148 01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:22,160 Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta spot for you. Are you piste 1149 01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:26,960 Speaker 1: and like flags? We got a thing for you to 1150 01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:35,160 Speaker 1: be Come on down to the market now, uh In. 1151 01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,920 Speaker 1: Harold von Brownhood became ordained on the advice of a 1152 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:42,840 Speaker 1: friend what he called a small, ancient church without a 1153 01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:48,840 Speaker 1: local congregation. He described himself as a priest at large. Yeah, yeah, 1154 01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:54,559 Speaker 1: there's a lot of those still just that large right now. 1155 01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:56,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of church this was. I'm 1156 01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,640 Speaker 1: guessing either some weird Christian identity congregation and would be 1157 01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,800 Speaker 1: like some you're like ancient Tagan thing like it's hard 1158 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,240 Speaker 1: to say ancient, right, ancient. It's like they found a 1159 01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,599 Speaker 1: building in the woods, right, this was an ancient church. 1160 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:15,000 Speaker 1: And he's like, and I am the preacher here. What 1161 01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,439 Speaker 1: we do know for sure is that years before the 1162 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,479 Speaker 1: Washington Post article, the Anti Defamation League had cut wind 1163 01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,960 Speaker 1: of rumors about von Brownhot's Jewish ancestry. It had been 1164 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,760 Speaker 1: a topic of discussion and suspicion among the far right, 1165 01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:31,160 Speaker 1: largely due to his prominent nose. But according that's the 1166 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:37,320 Speaker 1: Nazis talking, that's the Nazis talking, Robert. According to a 1167 01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,040 Speaker 1: representative of the a d L, they felt he was 1168 01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,880 Speaker 1: a solid, dependable extreme right winger, regardless that he was 1169 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,800 Speaker 1: one of them, and can be trusted because all the 1170 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,599 Speaker 1: all the money's well, he gives us money, he gives 1171 01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,920 Speaker 1: us money, We need guns. None of us can work 1172 01:19:53,040 --> 01:20:02,240 Speaker 1: jobs because he says the families. But I have a 1173 01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:07,640 Speaker 1: feeling it's all the fai swastikas is what's getting this 1174 01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:12,680 Speaker 1: not hard. Now, it does seem to be true that 1175 01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:17,160 Speaker 1: whatever his ancestry, Harold von Brownhood was a committed Nazi, 1176 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,240 Speaker 1: as committed a Nazi, as any whoever goose stepped across 1177 01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,200 Speaker 1: the pages of history. And he had continued to attend 1178 01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:26,320 Speaker 1: the Area Nations gatherings on at least a yearly basis 1179 01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,080 Speaker 1: throughout the nineteen eighties and into the nineteen nineties. He 1180 01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,639 Speaker 1: was a featured speaker on several occasions. More than once 1181 01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,800 Speaker 1: the inventor of sea monkeys lit the burning cross that 1182 01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:43,639 Speaker 1: signified the height of festivities. Floyd Cochrane, an Area Nation 1183 01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,759 Speaker 1: spokesman until he reformed in the yearly nineties, described Brownhood 1184 01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,320 Speaker 1: as having He said he had a big nose um 1185 01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:51,880 Speaker 1: and that he gives and that this is the fun part. 1186 01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:55,240 Speaker 1: He'd give long speeches about numerology, and he'd make references 1187 01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:58,320 Speaker 1: to the Pyramids. It just didn't play very well. So 1188 01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,560 Speaker 1: it was not his personality that made him popular with 1189 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:07,840 Speaker 1: the Nazis. He's weird. The woods people are like, I go, 1190 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, he was from Memphis. He gave 1191 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:14,240 Speaker 1: his money, but he's always talking about like thirty three 1192 01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,200 Speaker 1: Have you seen that? Have you seen that? Jim Carrey? 1193 01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:24,400 Speaker 1: Maybe now. Harold also started a racist think tank, the 1194 01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:28,040 Speaker 1: National Anti Zionist Institute, that's just it sounds like an 1195 01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:31,320 Speaker 1: oxy moron. It does. It's like a racist think tank. 1196 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:35,720 Speaker 1: What do you think, Hey, yeah, thinking mad? Right now, 1197 01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,760 Speaker 1: that's what I'm thinking. You won't get him, That's what 1198 01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm thinking. Get him. So he he started the National 1199 01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,519 Speaker 1: Anti Zionist Institute in the late nineteen eighties. There he 1200 01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:50,400 Speaker 1: authored a regular newsletter under the pseudonym Hendrick von Brown, 1201 01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:54,080 Speaker 1: which was barely a pseudonym, like, not not even really 1202 01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:56,920 Speaker 1: a pseudonym. It's like me calling myself Rob Evans and 1203 01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:03,360 Speaker 1: like being like nobody's gonna fucking put this caper together. Yeah, 1204 01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:12,800 Speaker 1: there's so many machetes here, and you call me the 1205 01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:16,880 Speaker 1: Biden name is my arm my eyes filled with blood 1206 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,240 Speaker 1: because my dentures are in I can feel that part. 1207 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,240 Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna quote the Washington Post again writing about 1208 01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:30,439 Speaker 1: Hendrick van Brown, great pseudon um. In the world of 1209 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:33,280 Speaker 1: jewels and precious metals, only that which is pure, rare, 1210 01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,519 Speaker 1: and unalloyed is of the highest value. Begins a newsletter 1211 01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:40,360 Speaker 1: dated nineteen For a full two pages, readers are urged 1212 01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,160 Speaker 1: to unite against wogs and mud people, even if that 1213 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,519 Speaker 1: means giving up their own lives. No one except Jesus 1214 01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,719 Speaker 1: Christ himself has ever managed to live forever. Von Brown writes, 1215 01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,840 Speaker 1: even if you could, what a board it would be 1216 01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,120 Speaker 1: to hang around for a few hundred years not doing 1217 01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:58,680 Speaker 1: much of anything except watching the racial um make it 1218 01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:02,320 Speaker 1: make basketballs and sneakers out of Racial's there for Jewish 1219 01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:06,559 Speaker 1: people's skins. Now it's to be super fucking racist. It's 1220 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,960 Speaker 1: the sea monkeys guy. He's amped it up. Yeah, he's 1221 01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:14,360 Speaker 1: amped up the he's amped it up. The address, the 1222 01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:18,160 Speaker 1: address for this newsletter was PO box eight o nine 1223 01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:21,080 Speaker 1: Brian's Road, Maryland. And if any of you sent off 1224 01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,479 Speaker 1: for sea monkeys, that's the same address you melt your 1225 01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:31,680 Speaker 1: money too. Hey, you don't say you don't keep a 1226 01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:37,880 Speaker 1: bunch of money opening a bunch of po boxes everywhere. No, 1227 01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:40,800 Speaker 1: you you pick one, You pick one, and you keep 1228 01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:53,040 Speaker 1: it for the Nazi stuff and the liar shrimp. So 1229 01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:58,920 Speaker 1: at this point you were getting confused. I said that 1230 01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:10,639 Speaker 1: kid a Swasti flag. Oh god, if some kid had 1231 01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:12,920 Speaker 1: just ordered it himself and his dad got it and 1232 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,400 Speaker 1: it's addressed to him, son, did you buy a luker? 1233 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:23,160 Speaker 1: Did you did you buy a swaston the flag? Put 1234 01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,200 Speaker 1: it in water. It's supposed to turn into a monkey day. 1235 01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:35,160 Speaker 1: Holy shit, it's amazing. This is the world we all 1236 01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:39,559 Speaker 1: live in, all of us. It's crazy. Now at this point, 1237 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,000 Speaker 1: I wonder what some of you are wondering. At least, 1238 01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,880 Speaker 1: did being exposed as a Nazi harm Harald's career as 1239 01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:52,160 Speaker 1: a toy salesman in any way? The answer is slightly, 1240 01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,800 Speaker 1: but not all that much. Not as much as you 1241 01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,799 Speaker 1: not as much as you'd think for buying arms for terrorists. 1242 01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:05,080 Speaker 1: In Von Brownhood sold the marketing rights to See Monkeys 1243 01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:11,200 Speaker 1: to a new company, Basic fun isis by the way, 1244 01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,960 Speaker 1: that's that's the hobby Lobby podcast, and that's gonna be 1245 01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:26,240 Speaker 1: a good one too. So the president of Basic Fund, 1246 01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:30,600 Speaker 1: Alan Dorfman, questioned Von Brownhood about the rumors of his 1247 01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:34,120 Speaker 1: Nazi past. Harold assured him these were all lies, made 1248 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,360 Speaker 1: up by a neighbor with whom he was fighting a 1249 01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:43,920 Speaker 1: property dispute. God, he's great. I mean, he's a terrible 1250 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,519 Speaker 1: human ban obviously, but also like some of his lives 1251 01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,120 Speaker 1: are pretty fun. We're just we're just fighting over but 1252 01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:53,280 Speaker 1: that's funny, lie, Like, like, look there's an apple tree 1253 01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:56,519 Speaker 1: we're fighting over. So he told a bunch of neo Nazis. 1254 01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:02,799 Speaker 1: I was as you and I was like, dude, n cool, 1255 01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:10,200 Speaker 1: but we're letting a judge just out about luxury. Shortly 1256 01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:13,559 Speaker 1: after the sale of Sea Monkeys to Basic Fun, Harold 1257 01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:17,120 Speaker 1: attended the July nineteen nine five Arean Nations Congress as 1258 01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,240 Speaker 1: a featured speaker. He went on stage right after Richard 1259 01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:24,440 Speaker 1: Butler called Jewish people the bacillus of decomposition in our society. 1260 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:29,240 Speaker 1: Also speaking that day was Louis Beam, a KKK leader, 1261 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,560 Speaker 1: the inventor of the term leaderless resistance in one of 1262 01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,120 Speaker 1: the top minds behind white supremacist terrorism in the last 1263 01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:39,120 Speaker 1: half century. Piece of ship. That's what top minds of 1264 01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:45,000 Speaker 1: Aryan Nation means. Yeah. Catcha Lane was in attendance as well. 1265 01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:48,160 Speaker 1: She's the wife of jailed Order member David Lane, the 1266 01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,080 Speaker 1: man who coined the fourteen words, which you'll see tattooed 1267 01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:53,240 Speaker 1: on some hands if you wind up at a protest 1268 01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:59,200 Speaker 1: in this town. Um, there you go. Why does it? 1269 01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,719 Speaker 1: Why does it it? Why didn't Fred Armison do sketches 1270 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:11,200 Speaker 1: about that part? They missed that aspect though Portland's adorable 1271 01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:15,120 Speaker 1: like some of it. Yeah, they could have. They could 1272 01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:16,960 Speaker 1: have added that to the put a bird on it sketch, 1273 01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:31,599 Speaker 1: But it's one of those Nazi evils on a guy's back. Yeah, 1274 01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:37,200 Speaker 1: just like I have the Natal three at the skills. 1275 01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:41,720 Speaker 1: I'm in the coal now. Dorfman found out about this 1276 01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:45,200 Speaker 1: his visit to the Area Nations, and being Jewish himself, 1277 01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:49,200 Speaker 1: Dorfman immediately ended the professional relationship between Von Brownhook and 1278 01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,400 Speaker 1: Basic Fund. But this was not the end of Sea Monkeys. 1279 01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:54,680 Speaker 1: A new generation of parents who had grown up with 1280 01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,639 Speaker 1: Sea Monkey kids in the seventies we're now raising young children. 1281 01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,719 Speaker 1: There was money to be made in rebranding a living animal, 1282 01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,760 Speaker 1: mail ordered toy sensation and cashing in on nostalgia. Before long, 1283 01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,960 Speaker 1: Harold found another company to market his monkeys, one that 1284 01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:12,080 Speaker 1: did not care about his Nazi past and present. In November, 1285 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:16,720 Speaker 1: he signed a new contract with Educational Insights. Their plan 1286 01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,479 Speaker 1: was to rebrand Sea Monkeys to capture the attention of 1287 01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:23,840 Speaker 1: nineties kids. Rather than portraying them as chubby champanzee looking secrets, 1288 01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:28,440 Speaker 1: Educational Insights hired illustrators to draw muscular, superhero looking sonkeys 1289 01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,439 Speaker 1: that could appeal to the extreme kids of the mid 1290 01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:40,400 Speaker 1: ninety nineties. Monkeys, Fuck, they're not starting families, They're just fucking, 1291 01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:51,360 Speaker 1: but they only funk within their race. That'sys. Now. The 1292 01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,559 Speaker 1: most significant change was that sea monkeys would no longer 1293 01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:58,160 Speaker 1: be illustrated as naked. As one company executive told the 1294 01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,639 Speaker 1: l A Times, I'm fun you gotta hear this. Having 1295 01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,200 Speaker 1: been involved in the marketing to kids, you don't want 1296 01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:10,519 Speaker 1: to introduce that as an area of controversy. Well, if 1297 01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:14,600 Speaker 1: you have Nazism but not nudism, but don't show them penises, 1298 01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:19,000 Speaker 1: don't show them penises. They have those. They only need 1299 01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:22,880 Speaker 1: to see him always buying arms for the clan. Well, 1300 01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:26,080 Speaker 1: that's his private business. But if there's a nipple on 1301 01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:32,320 Speaker 1: one of those fake monkeys, it really is America and 1302 01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:40,559 Speaker 1: a goddamn nutshell. He's like, hey, hey, move that naked 1303 01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:42,559 Speaker 1: lady and get him a gun. Give him a gun. 1304 01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:45,720 Speaker 1: Put a swastika right on that peck tour right over 1305 01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:52,840 Speaker 1: the nipple. Now, one month after inking a deal with 1306 01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:57,320 Speaker 1: Educational Insights, Harold von Brownhood officiated the funeral of Betty Butler, 1307 01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,880 Speaker 1: Richard Butler's wife. A reporter with a Los Angeles Times 1308 01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,599 Speaker 1: actually spent a significant amount of time digging into this story, 1309 01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,280 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna quote from him now. The specter of 1310 01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:09,680 Speaker 1: sea monkey dollars funding hate groups is to be less controversial. 1311 01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,599 Speaker 1: When I approached this topic with Fine and Atamian, two 1312 01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:15,679 Speaker 1: of the guys who worked at Educational Insights, Atamian confirms 1313 01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,360 Speaker 1: that all the higher ups that Educational Insights know about 1314 01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:21,200 Speaker 1: bon Brownhood's past. He says that everyone in the toy 1315 01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:23,920 Speaker 1: industry knows about him. The people had sent them the articles, 1316 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,639 Speaker 1: but that the sea monkeys shouldn't be tainted by their inventor. 1317 01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,240 Speaker 1: Is this any different from the U. S. Government having 1318 01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:32,280 Speaker 1: normal relations with Germany three four or five six years 1319 01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:38,479 Speaker 1: after World Wards? It's really different. Kill those guys and 1320 01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:41,719 Speaker 1: then they said, hey, we're not you can't do that anymore, 1321 01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:44,320 Speaker 1: and that were like and then we were like, okay, cool, 1322 01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,200 Speaker 1: that's cool that you guys realized that was bad. I 1323 01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:50,000 Speaker 1: hate to say, hey, you guys have some guys in 1324 01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:59,000 Speaker 1: your country. They're doing what the quote goes on. We're 1325 01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,680 Speaker 1: doing business with him on a business basis with a 1326 01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,840 Speaker 1: wonderful product called sea monkeys, and we don't see where 1327 01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:08,679 Speaker 1: it's relevant. I've never seen evidence of his alleged past behavior, 1328 01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:12,280 Speaker 1: says Fine. This has absolutely nothing to do with Harold 1329 01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,240 Speaker 1: as a person. It's more to do with who sea 1330 01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:16,560 Speaker 1: monkeys are and what they can mean in terms of 1331 01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:19,519 Speaker 1: fun and fantasy for kids and adults of all ages. 1332 01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:23,960 Speaker 1: So I'm just talking to a sociopath, okay. Another member 1333 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:28,360 Speaker 1: of the Educational Insights team agreed, what's great? Do you 1334 01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:34,320 Speaker 1: listen to Wagner? The Israelis wouldn't listen to his music 1335 01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:46,439 Speaker 1: for all those years, but now they do. If you're yeah, 1336 01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,880 Speaker 1: if your response to a question about funding Nazi hate 1337 01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:54,439 Speaker 1: groups starts with do you listen to Wagner, you're going 1338 01:31:54,520 --> 01:32:01,920 Speaker 1: in the wrong direction. Hear me out, now, that's all 1339 01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:07,200 Speaker 1: I got. The article I just quoted from was written 1340 01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,439 Speaker 1: in two thousand. For most of the rest of his life, 1341 01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:15,439 Speaker 1: Harold would two thousand this come on, yeah, for the 1342 01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:18,320 Speaker 1: most of the rest of his life, and he's here 1343 01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:27,439 Speaker 1: tonight bringing him out. He's like you got now, they're 1344 01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:30,519 Speaker 1: only each and there is a truck full of clansman 1345 01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:41,960 Speaker 1: who need guns, so please give generous sad clowns now. 1346 01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:45,040 Speaker 1: For the rest of his life after the two thousand 1347 01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:47,760 Speaker 1: or after two thousand, Harold von Brownhood would clam up 1348 01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,440 Speaker 1: and refuse to answer when pressed about his Nazi connections 1349 01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,479 Speaker 1: and the undefined put significant amount of money he poured 1350 01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:57,720 Speaker 1: into funding American fascism. He told the La Times, I 1351 01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:00,240 Speaker 1: don't have to defend myself to you or anyone else. 1352 01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm hanging up. In an earlier interview with the Seattle Times, 1353 01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,439 Speaker 1: we don't have to tail poop. You're hanging up. You 1354 01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:07,920 Speaker 1: can just you can just do it. Just do it. 1355 01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:12,200 Speaker 1: They got it. In an earlier interview with the Seattle Times, 1356 01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:15,040 Speaker 1: he gave a longer answer. I love the United States, 1357 01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:19,360 Speaker 1: I support the Constitution. I'm a very viable individual. I'm 1358 01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:26,880 Speaker 1: not sinister at all. That's fucking awesome. You're in a 1359 01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:28,760 Speaker 1: good spot in your life. When you're like, I'm not 1360 01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:37,080 Speaker 1: sinister at all. You're like, yeah, what did you do nothing? 1361 01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm hanging up now. I mean, we're all laughing at that. 1362 01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:46,160 Speaker 1: But our president ended a letter yesterday with I'll call 1363 01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:52,400 Speaker 1: you later. I'll call you later. What that motherfucker's saying. 1364 01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:55,360 Speaker 1: What's what's wild is that in three d years, when 1365 01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:57,960 Speaker 1: kids are like reading the condensed textbooks of this period, 1366 01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:02,800 Speaker 1: which will still suck like textbooks today, there oranges and 1367 01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:06,680 Speaker 1: we took a bad term, they're gonna read about that 1368 01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:10,360 Speaker 1: letter three paragraphs down from they read about Congress talking 1369 01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:14,080 Speaker 1: about boofing, like that's gonna be the same fucking page, 1370 01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:18,040 Speaker 1: like fucking wild and at the end it'll it'll just 1371 01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:23,439 Speaker 1: say and putin died of laughing, And then the teacher 1372 01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:25,240 Speaker 1: will they put up your books. It's time to boof 1373 01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:34,400 Speaker 1: again now. Harold von Brownhood spent his last year's running 1374 01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,479 Speaker 1: a wildlife conservatory on his own land in Maryland. He 1375 01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,120 Speaker 1: had a great love of animals, and reporters who visited 1376 01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,759 Speaker 1: him during this time reported that he was very Albano 1377 01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:47,880 Speaker 1: ones though yeah, very specifically. He just like white tigers 1378 01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:52,360 Speaker 1: and white squirrels. He liked cats, but not most of them. 1379 01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:02,080 Speaker 1: Report Ers who visited him during this time reported that 1380 01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,120 Speaker 1: he was very careful to make sure he did not 1381 01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:06,600 Speaker 1: feed his geese any bread that might contain mold. He 1382 01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:11,080 Speaker 1: really cared. He's a nice guy. When The Maryland Independent 1383 01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:13,280 Speaker 1: interviewed him and asked about his past, he told them, 1384 01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm not burning any crosses on my front lawn. I'm 1385 01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,960 Speaker 1: not holding any secret Black eagle meetings or racial meetings 1386 01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:23,240 Speaker 1: or kkk rallies. I'm not bringing any ideology to the area. 1387 01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:25,519 Speaker 1: That's fine, that's okay. I want to move on. We 1388 01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:27,559 Speaker 1: all want to move on. I have stuff I want 1389 01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:30,360 Speaker 1: to move on from. Let's move on from that now. 1390 01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:34,920 Speaker 1: Harold's last bout of public activism was an opposing the 1391 01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:37,920 Speaker 1: Riviera Development Project, which was a project to develop a 1392 01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:41,439 Speaker 1: riviera near him, obviously I assume, on the grounds that 1393 01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:44,040 Speaker 1: it would harm wildlife and the natural environment and his 1394 01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:48,040 Speaker 1: adopted home. He became the committee spokesman of SWARD, which 1395 01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:52,200 Speaker 1: is an acronym that stands for Save Wildlife Opposed Riviera Development. 1396 01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:56,559 Speaker 1: Not a bad Acronyma, you gotta give They did fine, 1397 01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:58,960 Speaker 1: It's fine. He's good with words. Yeah, he's good with words. 1398 01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:03,200 Speaker 1: He sold those sea monkey Yeah, instant life. Now, even 1399 01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:07,080 Speaker 1: in this ostensibly decent endeavor, he found ways to inject racism, 1400 01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:11,040 Speaker 1: peppering local newspaper ads for sword with references to the 1401 01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:19,400 Speaker 1: Judas Coat business experts responsible for the project subtle, yeah, subtle, subtle, 1402 01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:22,639 Speaker 1: and asking his neighbors to join our struggle for God 1403 01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:28,960 Speaker 1: country in our American heritage of self determination. Yeah nice. Now. 1404 01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:33,040 Speaker 1: I found a fun article at the end of researching 1405 01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:35,880 Speaker 1: this on a little website called National van Guard, which 1406 01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:37,879 Speaker 1: do do I need to say? It's a Nazi website. 1407 01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,559 Speaker 1: It's a it's a fucking nazi website. I thought they 1408 01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:49,320 Speaker 1: reviewed independent music. What do you what do you listen to? Billy? Okay, 1409 01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:53,280 Speaker 1: there's a sad story to this. I opened for Sturgill 1410 01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,840 Speaker 1: Simpson a couple of years ago, and we went through Spokane, 1411 01:36:56,160 --> 01:37:03,760 Speaker 1: and uh about I didn't know, and I do this. 1412 01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:06,040 Speaker 1: I lived in Seattle for six years, so I just 1413 01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:09,640 Speaker 1: like ripped Seattle in the Northwest apart about like you know, like, oh, 1414 01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:11,920 Speaker 1: we're so progressive and like, well, where the funk is 1415 01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:15,400 Speaker 1: all the black people, and then you go to Tacoma 1416 01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:19,240 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, there they are. You guys can't 1417 01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,280 Speaker 1: do that anymore. You can't just be like no, no, 1418 01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:23,639 Speaker 1: you can't, segarette. And that's how I was doing that stuff. 1419 01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:27,160 Speaker 1: And then like a month later, Sturgil sent me this 1420 01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,240 Speaker 1: thing that his people had said him. He's like, look 1421 01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,160 Speaker 1: at this review and it was from like a white 1422 01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:35,680 Speaker 1: nationalists website, and the guy was a huge fan of Sturgels. 1423 01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,679 Speaker 1: But when I came out and started doing my jokes 1424 01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:41,559 Speaker 1: at first he was like this is my guy because 1425 01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:45,320 Speaker 1: I've got blond hair and blue eyes and I have 1426 01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:47,680 Speaker 1: this accent, so he was like, oh, that he's been 1427 01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:51,760 Speaker 1: chosen to come here. And then I start saying this 1428 01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:57,519 Speaker 1: ship I say, and the guy was like, what the 1429 01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:01,000 Speaker 1: funk is this? And he went back and had to 1430 01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:03,160 Speaker 1: re listen to Sturgil and he's like, well, that motherfucker 1431 01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:08,720 Speaker 1: he I thought he was either. This made me laugh 1432 01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:15,479 Speaker 1: so hard. It's the best review I've ever gotten. There 1433 01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:19,000 Speaker 1: was a brage of blasphemy and anti whiteness, and I 1434 01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:27,040 Speaker 1: was like, he got what I was doing. I'll tweet 1435 01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:33,760 Speaker 1: that good review out soon because it's so good. It's 1436 01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:37,360 Speaker 1: well written. He's not it. He's educated, he's just misgot it. 1437 01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:40,680 Speaker 1: We're about to read and not well written piece of 1438 01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:44,479 Speaker 1: Nazi literature here. So, as I said, I found a 1439 01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:47,320 Speaker 1: fun article on National van Guard about Harold and it 1440 01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:49,160 Speaker 1: gives us some idea of how he was viewed by 1441 01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,519 Speaker 1: the neo Nazis, that he didn't give tens of thousands 1442 01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:54,680 Speaker 1: of dollars to That article cites a quote from a 1443 01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:59,040 Speaker 1: little guy you all might have heard of, Tom Metzger leader. Yeah, 1444 01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:01,800 Speaker 1: tim as a history in this town, and it's not 1445 01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,679 Speaker 1: a good one. Um leader of a group called White 1446 01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:08,800 Speaker 1: Aryan Resistance a k A war. Essentially a murderer, but 1447 01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:13,680 Speaker 1: with a couple of extra steps, and they're like, hey, 1448 01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:16,000 Speaker 1: we can't sing that, we can't say yeah, that is 1449 01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:19,679 Speaker 1: not going to go down, but it goes with our things, 1450 01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:24,639 Speaker 1: so good. So here's what Tom Metzger had to say 1451 01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:28,040 Speaker 1: about Harold von Brownhutt. Harold von brown Hutt, a self 1452 01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:30,599 Speaker 1: made multi millionaire from Maryland, has been an Area Nation 1453 01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:32,960 Speaker 1: scrimp tributor for years. I met the man in a 1454 01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,560 Speaker 1: meeting at Robert Miles's in Michigan. He was wearing a 1455 01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:38,040 Speaker 1: priest's collar when I first met him. He was a 1456 01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:41,800 Speaker 1: small man with decidedly Semitic features. I commented to several 1457 01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:43,880 Speaker 1: people at the time that this individual was a long 1458 01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,639 Speaker 1: way from an Arian. Then a Washington Post story broke 1459 01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:48,960 Speaker 1: a few years later, saying that von brown Hut was 1460 01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:51,400 Speaker 1: a bar Mitzvah Jew. It was also said that he 1461 01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:54,040 Speaker 1: was the state leader for Area Nations. This, of course 1462 01:39:54,280 --> 01:40:01,559 Speaker 1: puzzled me greatly, especially the way Christian hurt I made 1463 01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:04,439 Speaker 1: my findings known to the Area Nations but received I 1464 01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:06,920 Speaker 1: think his findings where he read the Washington Post article 1465 01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,320 Speaker 1: but received no answer, and then repeated the findings on 1466 01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:12,600 Speaker 1: this update a few years ago. Still no change. It 1467 01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:15,040 Speaker 1: seems Von Brownhood was some kind of self hating Jew, 1468 01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,880 Speaker 1: but a steady contributor to a n oh Well. I 1469 01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,080 Speaker 1: had felled the cat, but I heard nothing about it 1470 01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,600 Speaker 1: from the identity camp. Today I received an article that 1471 01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:24,840 Speaker 1: was printed in the Los Angeles Times, a thorough and 1472 01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:27,640 Speaker 1: complete history of the activities that Mr. Von Brownhood. The 1473 01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:29,840 Speaker 1: thing that appalled me through and through was one comment 1474 01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:32,240 Speaker 1: made by the writer that von brownhoot officiated at the 1475 01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:35,920 Speaker 1: funeral of Miss Betty Butler, the devoted rife of Richard Butler. 1476 01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:40,200 Speaker 1: That is very hard to swallow. So that's nice. It 1477 01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:42,680 Speaker 1: bummed out Tom Metzker, like, what what do you want? You? 1478 01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:44,920 Speaker 1: What do you want? In a happy ending of this podcast, 1479 01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:52,840 Speaker 1: Tom Metzker sad, that's as good as it's gonna get now. Well, 1480 01:40:52,920 --> 01:41:04,040 Speaker 1: he looklocker, you speaking. Harold von Brownhood stroked out and 1481 01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:08,240 Speaker 1: died in two thousand three. There we go, fuck him. 1482 01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:11,880 Speaker 1: Here's a piece of ship. Yeah, the collector just funded 1483 01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:18,240 Speaker 1: more Nazis. He's good now. The most his fellow fascists 1484 01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:20,439 Speaker 1: that the National Vanguard were willing to say about him 1485 01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:24,280 Speaker 1: was apparently Brownhood's racial beliefs were sincere, and I noticed 1486 01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:27,200 Speaker 1: they didn't give him the vong. That's interesting to me. Now, 1487 01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:31,400 Speaker 1: Harold's longtime wife, Yolanda, sold the rights to see monkeys 1488 01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:34,080 Speaker 1: after his death to a company called Big Time Toys 1489 01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,120 Speaker 1: for several million dollars. They apparently screwed her out of 1490 01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:39,200 Speaker 1: quite a lot of this money, and she sued them 1491 01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:41,559 Speaker 1: in two thousand thirteen. I'm not going to get into 1492 01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:43,919 Speaker 1: the details of the lawsuit, but it was still ongoing 1493 01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:46,679 Speaker 1: as of two thousand sixteen. The New York Times wrote 1494 01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:49,560 Speaker 1: an article about the story and pressed Yolanda gently on 1495 01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:53,439 Speaker 1: her husband's years of fascist activism. She insisted that she 1496 01:41:53,600 --> 01:42:02,479 Speaker 1: and her husband never talked about politics. Listen, he had 1497 01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:06,200 Speaker 1: so much sea monkey money and he had so much 1498 01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:09,200 Speaker 1: knowledge about sea monkeys. We just didn't have time to 1499 01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:12,360 Speaker 1: talk about anything. That was all that was going on. 1500 01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:14,000 Speaker 1: And most of the time I was just trying to 1501 01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:15,800 Speaker 1: give him to take those glasses off, because it's like, 1502 01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:26,439 Speaker 1: come on, my an, not all the time now, Billy Wayne, Yeah, 1503 01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,600 Speaker 1: normally round about here the end of the end of 1504 01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:31,760 Speaker 1: the end of the podcast, we would we would plug 1505 01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:33,960 Speaker 1: our plug doubles, and I suppose we can still do that, 1506 01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:43,040 Speaker 1: but first I'll be in Portland's October seventeen. That's near today, 1507 01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:49,639 Speaker 1: very close to now sold out. I feel like before 1508 01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:53,080 Speaker 1: we go, there's two intact bags of bagels, and we 1509 01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:58,000 Speaker 1: should attempt well, one intact and one we partly intact. 1510 01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:00,719 Speaker 1: We should at least try to unintact that one of bagels. 1511 01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:06,799 Speaker 1: All right, let's do it before Thank you all for coming, 1512 01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:11,080 Speaker 1: by the way, thank you, thank you all for coming. 1513 01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:17,120 Speaker 1: A last minute idea comment. You guys like, yeah, we'll 1514 01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:19,760 Speaker 1: be there now. What I today, I was like, I 1515 01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:24,479 Speaker 1: don't think they're coming. What I What I really appreciate 1516 01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:27,120 Speaker 1: about a Portland audience is that y'all are willing to 1517 01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:30,240 Speaker 1: let two strangers brandish large knives at you for two 1518 01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:33,760 Speaker 1: hours and you're all used to it because this is 1519 01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:38,160 Speaker 1: Portland's And oddly enough, the only illegal thing about all 1520 01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:40,400 Speaker 1: these machetes I brought in here is that I kept 1521 01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:43,439 Speaker 1: him in a bag. If I'd been waving him drunkenly 1522 01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:47,720 Speaker 1: around the street, that's fine. It's Oregon, baby, It's a 1523 01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,960 Speaker 1: great weird rule. It's like, you can't hide them. You're like, well, 1524 01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:58,439 Speaker 1: what if we hear him? You can't find him? Okay, 1525 01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:01,360 Speaker 1: all right, now you know what Billy I should throw 1526 01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:04,200 Speaker 1: it first. I got to hit that. Get that Okay. 1527 01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:10,479 Speaker 1: I saw a guy wearing your hat. Today's Zoro. That's 1528 01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:13,240 Speaker 1: a machete pocket. That's what you're That's what are robes 1529 01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:16,120 Speaker 1: made for? What are robes made for? All right, Billy, 1530 01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:23,400 Speaker 1: here we go. Are you ready love serving love? Probably? Yeah, alright, 1531 01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:26,479 Speaker 1: I'm going it. It looks better to hit it. It does. 1532 01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:28,360 Speaker 1: All right, you did some damage. I'm gonna do it 1533 01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,200 Speaker 1: one more time. I want to see you know what, Billy, 1534 01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:34,280 Speaker 1: try try the real chopper. This is the some bitches, 1535 01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:36,599 Speaker 1: the CRK T your creed. This is one you used 1536 01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:39,280 Speaker 1: to chop deep into wood shinny steel. But it's got 1537 01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:42,519 Speaker 1: a real like deep edge. Yeah, it's good for batoning 1538 01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:53,240 Speaker 1: and bagels. Yeah, it's amazing. I'm so in Portland, like 1539 01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:54,600 Speaker 1: this is just a piece of bread. I was like, 1540 01:44:54,680 --> 01:45:02,839 Speaker 1: there's a joint in there. I was like, that's so awesome. 1541 01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:07,519 Speaker 1: Oh it's just bread. Now. We didn't do any ad 1542 01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:10,880 Speaker 1: plugs for this, but Columbia River Knife Company or whatever 1543 01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:15,800 Speaker 1: cr KT is, they make a fine bagel slice. They 1544 01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:21,200 Speaker 1: haven't give me a dime. You all saw it work. Yeah, yeah, 1545 01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:27,519 Speaker 1: it was aggressive, said Billy. Wayne. Yes, you get some 1546 01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:31,400 Speaker 1: pluggables to plug should do that. Yeah, just by my record. 1547 01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:34,240 Speaker 1: Uh it's just if you google my name, all that 1548 01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:40,240 Speaker 1: ship comes up, We'll just you'll you'll find it. I don't. 1549 01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:42,160 Speaker 1: That's why you don't know who I am because I'm 1550 01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:46,559 Speaker 1: so bad at like I'm good at the comedy part, 1551 01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:48,040 Speaker 1: but the rest of them, Like I don't give a 1552 01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:51,280 Speaker 1: funk people making people laughing people. You should tell people 1553 01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:56,439 Speaker 1: when you're doing it. I'm like, I know, but I 1554 01:45:56,439 --> 01:46:01,120 Speaker 1: don't care. But if you know, I do tell people 1555 01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:03,320 Speaker 1: now because I have kids and they're like, we want 1556 01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:09,720 Speaker 1: to eat, I'm like, so help Billy's greedy kids. I 1557 01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:13,040 Speaker 1: wish that was joke, and that's how that wasn't what 1558 01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:16,120 Speaker 1: motivated me to market myself, but it really like for 1559 01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:17,680 Speaker 1: a long time, I was like, I just like doing 1560 01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:20,200 Speaker 1: comment it's fun, and I have kids. I'm like, I 1561 01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:25,760 Speaker 1: should tell people I'm doing it. So just google Billy 1562 01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,760 Speaker 1: Wayne Davis. Google Billy Wayne. I'm still pretty lazy about it. 1563 01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:34,479 Speaker 1: You know what, Google bomb Billy Wayne Davis Illuminati and 1564 01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:37,600 Speaker 1: just see what happens. See what happens a year or 1565 01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:41,560 Speaker 1: two from now when that percolates. Please just google that 1566 01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:43,560 Speaker 1: over and over again. Just keep doing. I want to 1567 01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:47,679 Speaker 1: get invited to Illuminati party. They were like, hey, people 1568 01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:50,160 Speaker 1: can keep thinking you're part of this because we saw 1569 01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:54,760 Speaker 1: Google sends of stuff. Anyway, come to meeting and I'm like, 1570 01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:58,679 Speaker 1: can I bring him a shitty Jeff Bezos is gonna 1571 01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:02,040 Speaker 1: be there. He's got tons of them. They wouldn't let 1572 01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:07,600 Speaker 1: me in because I would tail. Yeah, like like I 1573 01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:09,840 Speaker 1: would leave him. Like you wouldn't believe who's in it. 1574 01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:16,320 Speaker 1: It's not who you think, Carrot Top. He's so much 1575 01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:20,120 Speaker 1: smarter than people give him a credit for him. Carrott 1576 01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:26,639 Speaker 1: Top didn't I heard, just like, what do you say? 1577 01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:31,000 Speaker 1: So I don't repeat what I said. It was dumb. 1578 01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:34,519 Speaker 1: This is dumb. But I'll be in Salem tomorrow doing 1579 01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:39,400 Speaker 1: stand up, and then Eugene on Saturday, and then I'm 1580 01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:41,600 Speaker 1: coming back up. I'll be in Seattle the November one 1581 01:47:41,720 --> 01:47:44,519 Speaker 1: and second on Capitol Hill. I'm coming. I'm getting going 1582 01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:46,240 Speaker 1: in there and getting the funk out as fast as 1583 01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:50,840 Speaker 1: I can. I don't negative fucking place up there. People 1584 01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:56,400 Speaker 1: are just saying me, so see see Billy Wayne Davis 1585 01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:58,800 Speaker 1: in most of those places. But if you venture up 1586 01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:02,280 Speaker 1: into Seattle's if you hate see at least you come 1587 01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:05,880 Speaker 1: to my shows because I just rip it fucking apart. Yeah, 1588 01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:08,479 Speaker 1: bring your fucking bolt cutters. You were going to need 1589 01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:13,880 Speaker 1: him to get through those streets, just lanyard. I think 1590 01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:21,320 Speaker 1: it's though you need anyway. We didn't talk about how 1591 01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:24,000 Speaker 1: to in this. No, this this has been the podcast 1592 01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:26,840 Speaker 1: I hope I should plug. I have a podcast called 1593 01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:35,600 Speaker 1: Behind the Bastards. Um. If you want to listen to it, 1594 01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:39,599 Speaker 1: you might enjoy it. You the guy in the royal 1595 01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:42,920 Speaker 1: Wallenberg shirt, you might, you might, you might be interested in. Yeah, 1596 01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:46,240 Speaker 1: I have that bagel. What's that? Oh that's a joint? 1597 01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:58,080 Speaker 1: Oh ship Portland fucking holds it down? All right, all right, 1598 01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:00,880 Speaker 1: all right, as the fun an episode. Get the funk 1599 01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:05,880 Speaker 1: out of here, Thank you, thank you quick. I'm gonna 1600 01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:08,639 Speaker 1: have a suitcase just sitting up with my first CD. 1601 01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:10,479 Speaker 1: I just have like a bunch left and I'm just 1602 01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:15,439 Speaker 1: gonna give him away. So it's my first record. There's 1603 01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:17,360 Speaker 1: a lot of good jokes. There's some holes that I 1604 01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:20,120 Speaker 1: don't care for, but whatever, you guys, I'm really proud of. 1605 01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:21,760 Speaker 1: I listen to a couple of weeks ago and I 1606 01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:25,719 Speaker 1: was like, this isn't bad at all. So it's gonna 1607 01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:28,920 Speaker 1: and I'm also like thirty pounds heavier than I am now, 1608 01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:31,560 Speaker 1: so it was just this fat. He was fun. That 1609 01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:34,920 Speaker 1: guy was fun as fuck. I got one last thing 1610 01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:37,759 Speaker 1: to say. There's a fellow in the audience named Alan 1611 01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:40,240 Speaker 1: who built the website for the War on Everyone dot 1612 01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:43,599 Speaker 1: com and who without his help, that would have taken 1613 01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:45,840 Speaker 1: like a month and a half more to produce, and 1614 01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:48,600 Speaker 1: I would never have accomplished it as competently because the 1615 01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:51,000 Speaker 1: only thing I can do is write eleven pages on 1616 01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:54,720 Speaker 1: shitty people and then drunkenly read them to comedians. So 1617 01:49:55,560 --> 01:50:02,559 Speaker 1: thank you, very much, Thank you guys. I got that inside. 1618 01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:03,360 Speaker 1: I don't guess we're done.