WEBVTT - Episode 470 w/ DJ Enuff 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:01.760 Peace of the plan. This charlamagnea god here. 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:04.800 Before we get into today's episode, we've got to celebrate 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:08.239 the Black Effect Podcast Network. It's turning five years old, man, 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:11.799 five years of powerful voices, unforgettable moments in the community 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:12.680 that keeps growing. 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:14.920 This is the power of the platform. Now let's get 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:15.280 into it. 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:33.560 He is drinks chess, mother fucking podcast man. 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.199 He's a legends eary Queen's rapper. He ain't segreate a 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:41.000 your boy in eights a Miami him pop pioneer as 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:43.599 d J e f N. Together they drink it up 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:45.639 with some of the biggest players, you know what I mean. 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:50.040 And the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:51.280 source for drunk. 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.240 Drinks chess for every day is New Year's Eve. Listen, 0:00:54.360 --> 0:01:03.200 it's time for drink champions. Drink up, mother, would it 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.400 goold be hoping he should be Isshu boy in r 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:06.120 What up it is? 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:07.040 DJ e f N. 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:10.000 This militias you all, Yeah, you have astry. 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:15.400 Right now. 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:20.119 We've been trying to get this brother for years. Right now, 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:21.120 he's a talker to town. 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:25.280 If you're a DJ, if you're lover of hip hop, 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:26.360 if you're. 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:32.160 A lover of the actual play of it and not 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:35.200 a fan of the business. You're tuned into what's happening 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:38.680 right now. But let's give you this brother's desography. His 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:44.399 brother's a legend, he's an icon. He DJ for one 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:48.240 of the most legends, one of the most notorious people 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:53.240 in the world. I mean, this guy started out in 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.520 nineteen ninety eight on the radio, years been doing it 0:01:56.560 --> 0:02:00.280 before that on the radio. And we see him pose 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.040 out his show with one of the most passionate moments 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:04.640 in hip hop I've ever seen. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.200 The people came out to support them. People are supporting them. 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:10.840 We're gonna get to this, but these are legends of icon, 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.640 have been doing this for well over thirty years. 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.280 And we won't give him as flowers today. 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:17.480 That's what our show is about, and today he will 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.040 receive his flowers. In case you don't know what the 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.079 fuck we talk about, we talked about one. 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.880 Now, did y'all ever have beef? Because your names are similar. 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:38.360 I'm just talking with you. I do like that. I 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:41.600 haven't bvated my name a few times. E n F right, right, 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:45.120 So I was like, maybe no beef though, right. 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.240 Because what was your favorite what was your first hip 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.160 hip hop name? What was it. 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:56.680 You remember that? Come on, I know that. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:02.160 So listen We've been interviewing people for nine years and 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:06.960 everyone has a whack hip hop and yes you can 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:10.040 still use e wat right now, Like it's like, yeah, 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:11.200 so what made you? 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:12.280 What made you go with DJ? 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:16.399 Enough? All right? So to be honest and Frank, I'm 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.760 from the Lower East Side of Manhattan and then in 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:24.200 nineteen seventy nine, I moved up an area called Flat Push, Brooklyn. Right, 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.040 but you was born in Harlem. 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:31.520 And you did your homewk yes, yes, yes for. 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.720 Me coming out the projects to the Lower east Side, right, 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:40.840 Lilian Wall projects, Jacob Bree, shots of them, I didn't 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.440 see that many West Indian people. So I grew up 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.840 a lot of West Indian people in my second half, 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:48.360 you know what I'm saying. Being in Brooklyn and there 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:53.240 was a famous uh this Jamaican dude name Ricky Barnett 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.320 and Miguel Parkers. Those are my best friends in elementary 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:58.920 school growing up and back in those days in the 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:03.480 in the early eighties, everything was enough respect, enough this, 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.200 enough that, right. So he was like, yo, your name 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.800 is E whatever he goes, bit, why don't we just 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:13.800 call you E Enough? Because you get enough respect every timewhere. 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.760 So at first I was like, I don't know. Then 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:23.640 somebody bought some marketing to me and said, you know 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:27.280 what you could if you make a restaurant. Let's say 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:33.800 you would open a Hamburger shop. You put enough burgers, yeah, 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:38.440 enough clothing, enough liquor, enough smoke enough it works. So 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.200 I was like, you know, I'll roe whatever it, fuck. 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:45.280 It, okay's now your first DJ gig was that? 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:54.120 Then the Grill Club Club the Grill nineteen ninety whatever 0:04:54.200 --> 0:05:01.960 year hip hop Junkies came out. That was like, yeah, okay, 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:07.560 I got a funky that was the hottest record already. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:08.840 I was ready DJ. 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:10.880 So was the tone at that time. 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.560 This is right and before the something okay cool, there 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:16.760 was no Sunday nice to not yet okay. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.120 What's this Sunday nice and hip hop period not. 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.000 Not to my recollection. I'm a newbie. I just found 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:22.240 right because. 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:26.279 The first time I ever Sunday, I thought I thought 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.839 it was Latin quarters. Okay, I don't, I don't, I don't, 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:31.760 I don't, I don't remember. 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.640 Before my time, okay. 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.040 Cool, cool, cool, all right now. I used to make 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.440 pause tapes. Can you explain to people what poestapes is. 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.960 All right, So before I had enough money to have equipment, equipment, 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.800 we used to make these pause tapes. And back in 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:54.960 everybody's household, we all had what's called bs R bullshit recording, 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.120 you know, recording capability. So it'd be a double deck, 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:03.760 you know, because and you would play your source from 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:07.240 one cassette would be the recording for another, and you 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.600 would only record the portions that you want so our 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:14.160 press play, you press record here, and then you pause it. 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.200 But you had to be nice with it. So that's 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.640 what the DJ stuff kicks in, because you know I've 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:25.320 seen you know, to break that is in the firm biz. 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:34.840 No, no, okay, okay, I was thinking about action first. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.960 But I'm talking with that joint right. It's by Malcolm McLaren. 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:43.400 That little piece is only like about ten seconds long, 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.279 right yo, my man, The original to that is even 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:50.280 less than that. We would take that little piece and 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:54.360 do a whole ninety minute mix of just that one 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.880 B and then we go through the street with it 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.120 and then play it outside and it'd be like all 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:04.960 day the same ship over and then the B boys 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.480 would come and start doing that thing and you know, 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.480 and dancing, you know, the gangs would be like yo crazy. 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:14.160 It was the cardboard yeah all that. Yeah, so I'm 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:15.160 a bounce around a little bit. 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:16.080 Yeah baby, do you thing? 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:16.640 Okay? 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.120 So this is something I always wanted to ask you. 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.080 How accurate was the Biggie movie? 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:21.360 Right? 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.560 But I believe that it was in San Francisco or 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.120 and it was still on some things at them because 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:27.880 of who shot you? 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.880 But I said not to play who shot you? Right? Yeah, 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.280 that wasn't okay. I'll tell you the truth. I can't 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:38.320 tell you. So this one of this cameras, no scene 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:43.600 portrayed in the movie was was saying it was uh 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.760 in the in the Bay area, okay, right, but it 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.480 wasn't okay. And then the reason why they probably put 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.640 it in the Bay because that's where Park was from. Okay. Now, 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.200 during this time, I remember, like it was yesterday, we 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:58.720 were in Atlanta, Georgia. We were going to a social 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:03.680 death anniversary party of some sort and we were gonna 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:07.960 meet up with Jamaine Deprie, the Brat and a few others. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:14.800 And there was word that Tupac was around in Atlanta, right, Okay, 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:18.200 So now like we're on heightened security because these dudes 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.640 got beef and it's ugly. I'm in the car with 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:25.280 like little ceas BIG's in the front. I remember bodyguards 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.400 being on top of us and at one point were 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.360 driving in the a somewhere. We're driving around and then 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.120 the security was like get down, and I'm like, what's 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:38.560 going on and get down? Then he jumped on top 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.800 of my body and I'm like what. I thought it 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:42.880 was gonna start shooting at us or something, but I 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:44.880 guess they were just on high alert. Where the cars 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.600 we become a bid and they got like some information, 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.280 But that's that's not it was in the Bay. It 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.520 was Atlanta. So during the height of the beef right, 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:58.200 everybody from Brooklyn to Junior Mafia, everybody was waiting for 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.840 a response Big because you know, pock had didn't hit 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:06.040 him up, and and for me, I took it super personal. 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.679 You know why, because I produced to Get Money remix 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:12.120 for Big R and Pac took the same beat right 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.520 from the Get Money remix that I produced and hit 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.040 him up. And the crazy part, that's crazy. I didn't 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:21.520 think of it like CZ. I didn't realize it until 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.600 I did a podcast with Cypher Sounds of Rosi and 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:28.040 they broke it that and I was like, damn, you're right, 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.959 And then like twenty five years later, I was mad again. 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:37.400 But it was it was it was like bittersweet because, like, 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.079 you know, Park was such a legendary dude, and I'm 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:42.440 be on like thirsty to be on the phone with him, 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.600 to be like, yo, what's up pot Because he loved 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.559 New York. He loved the bodegas. 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:48.840 He loved them a little, you know, but let's let's 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:49.640 talk about that nice. 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.959 So well, yeah, so they were mad at Big on stage. 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.480 They would know nobody was ever mad at Big. Okay, 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:59.800 I think the the real important thing was this, So 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.040 I'm on the road with them now. I got the 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:08.240 torch passed from Clark Kent. Clark Kent, Clark Kent. Excuse me. 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.040 He taught me the show, so it was only right. 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:13.880 Just all I had to do is carry the legacy. 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:17.280 He was DJ before you. Yes, of course he was 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:21.120 doing uh A and R for like East West Atlantic. 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.679 He was signing an artist, but he was also doing 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.400 production and beats and you know he was doing the 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.880 Brooklyn finals on Jay and Biggs album. You know, he 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.040 was busy. So I think it got to a point 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:32.920 where he's like, you know what, I'm getting hot out 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:34.680 here and I love being on the road with Big, 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.559 but I gotta go right. So that's when you know, 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.280 I got the phone call from Puff like you want 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:42.600 to be bigs DJ, And I was like, I think 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.080 about it, And everybody laughs at me when I tell 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:46.560 him that responds. 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:48.800 Because Big wasn't who Big was at that time. 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:53.280 Big only had party in bullshit out maybe Unbelievable and Juicy. 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.480 Was he still Biggie Small before he changed the names 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:56.079 of Notorious. 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:59.000 No, he was still Biggie Smalls. He was notorious yet, 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:07.840 right right right. So we're in Atlanta and we stopped 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.079 doing the We stopped doing the song who Shot You? 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:15.240 Like my dad faced him hot? So we stopped performing 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.640 that song. And I think we stopped performing that song 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:21.680 because Big didn't want the narrative that people were thinking 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:25.679 the song was about, because it was out of respect 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:30.080 the kid. The kid got shot, you know a few times, 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.600 and then when he died, it was like the ultimately like, no, 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:37.160 we're not doing that. So we was in Atlanta that time. 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.280 I told you we was on heightened security alert. Whatever 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:46.400 we do the show and there's a break in the 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:51.079 show where he starts talking. I'm like, where's he going 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:52.599 with this? I never did this is not part of 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:56.280 the show. We never did this before. And he's explaining 0:11:56.360 --> 0:12:00.240 himself about I guess what him a part, what was 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.959 going through? So I was like, he's gonna perform who 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.800 shot You? Wow? So then without him telling me nothing, 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.840 I got the record out and then I just had 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:11.679 a queue up and ready, and he looked at me 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:14.360 and it was like and I went who shot You? 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.680 And he performed out of nowhere. It was the first 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.200 time he got to perform that, you know, during the 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:22.160 beef R. So for us, it was like a magical moment, 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.440 even though it wasn't his true response, but it was 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.600 the next next thing because he wasn't gonna talk dirty 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:28.520 about Park right. 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.680 But to be clear, because it was before par got shot. 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.080 Yeah, it was a baby because we said, I wanted 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:35.319 people to think it happened right then. 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:41.040 Did you ever I know you said, I know I 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:44.679 read articles and seen interviews what you said that there 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:50.120 was brawls happening, like you know, running with big and. 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:49.160 Things like that. 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.000 I think one time they even left you and you 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:52.160 had to come outside of. 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.520 The ques that was in Virginia. 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:58.200 Yeah, okay, you had to like they. 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.720 All, you know, back in the days when we used 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:06.600 to carry the crates, right, but even before that, before 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.360 controllers and cdj's were around, we used to carry the turntable. 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:14.520 So I got two turntables, a mixer, all my crates, 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.559 and I'm by myself. I ain't got a roadie. He's 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:21.400 not paying for Roady. So it's like, you know, the 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:23.880 road manager shout to Hawk, my man Hawk. He would 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.480 help me sometime with the records and whatever. Whenever there 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.200 wasn't feeling, whenever they felt like there was a superstar, 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.760 they help me with the records. But we get into 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.960 some ship. It's going down. They fighting, Oh, they doing 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:39.720 whatever they're doing. But they forgot about me and they 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:44.160 would leave me. I'm like, yo, So now I'm slowly 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:46.640 trying to pack up all my ship before the ship 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.679 really hits the fan. I'm like closing up the cases. 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:51.679 I'm trying whatever I said. Yo. If I don't get 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.200 the fuck up out of here, they gonna come for 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.599 me next. And that's the type of that was. That 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.000 was the real ship. That's the way it was a 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.080 lot of shows bro A lot of. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:08.679 Shows make some noise. But it was fun. Man, Now 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:10.120 we think about it was a lot of fun. 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:14.400 But like when you speak speak about crates like, I 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.240 don't think these kids like like, I'm sorry, this sounds 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.240 the old band, but you know, like that shit was hard. 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:23.960 Like I remember, like watching you guys go to a party, 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.560 used to have to have to have people help you. 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:30.280 With your crates. Five six dudes or whatever or actually, 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:32.320 I'm gonna keep it on hunted. I was flying, but 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:34.520 a few times I would do parties of town. But 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:39.280 I have six women carrying my trade in high heels, 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:43.480 right and then and then when I come to the party, 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:48.240 the promoters be on my dick. They'd be like, motherfucker. 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:54.600 We'll talk six feet women in dresses or skirts with 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:59.880 heels on carrying my crates. Now, these ain't milk crates. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:04.000 These are professional like cases. Get a little bit easier 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:07.160 to carry, heaviest hell one hundred pounds easy. 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.840 So, as a DJ, do you like this era more 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.280 or do you miss the vinyl era? 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.360 I missed the vinyl era a little bit, okay, but 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.480 I do like the technology where it's had today. You 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:25.160 know why, because I remember being on the road and 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:29.040 Biggie would shake the fucking stage and the record would skip, 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.520 and I would get blamed for it, because at the 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.520 end of the day, he's the boss, he's the headliner. 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.440 It said they came to see him, not me, So 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.200 I had to take the blame for that. And then 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.360 Clarke Can't had to teach me how to do a 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:48.400 backup show that way I heard that or CD or whatever, 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.040 okay whatever, yeah it was it was that originally. And 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:57.720 then holy ship, I forgot his name. He's gonna be 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:03.680 mad at me now. Producer from Guy try Wiley, Teddy Riley. 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.720 Teddy Riley gives me my first c d J. He goes, enough, 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.800 this is the future. Like, what do you mean? He goes, 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:12.840 this is never going to skip on you ever. Again, 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.840 this is the fucking future right here. He gave me 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:17.440 a pair of c d j's and I was like, 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.080 but those skip two though, no, I know, but not 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.480 but not as bad, but not as bad as needles 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:24.800 as the needles on the record? 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.920 Now, what was it? Flip Star DJs, Flip Squad, Flip 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:32.080 Squad djsh Yeah, and I was you Cipher Sounds was 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.560 in the same Yeah, who else was in that crew? 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:41.200 Frankie Cutlers, Frankie Cutlers, Dup do Funk Flex Yeah flex uh, 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:49.760 Mark Ronson, Mike Ronson was in riz thank you. Oh 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:57.480 ship comes here? Trying to think who was here? 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:57.720 Bro? 0:16:58.120 --> 0:16:58.840 Who else was in there? 0:16:59.040 --> 0:16:59.280 It was? 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:00.680 So it was flip. 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.840 Squad, the Flip Squad, DJ, the flip Squad and this 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:08.600 is before buster have flip Squad or no, Yeah, flip mode, 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.119 flip Mode, slip modem bugging different things. 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.960 Yeah, flip flip Squad. Okay, okay, make some noise. 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:22.080 With DJ, so okay, be me a warning cup, bro. 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:26.680 Okay, So who else was okay? Who else was down 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:27.080 down on that? 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:32.920 Okay? Sight for sounds? This kid named bud kN Uh. 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:37.159 There's there's a couple more. I'm forgetting them. But the 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.720 big Cat, Big Cat, rest in peace, Big Cat. Oh 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:48.320 that's right? Uh damn you know what. Let me just 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:50.280 look at the artwork of the album we put out. 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.760 It's on there. Okay, so go for it, go for it. 0:17:55.880 --> 0:18:00.520 One thing that was noticed very Kanye's first album, Yes 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.800 has the heavy hitter logo on there. Yes, sir, Now, 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:08.399 remember I mean knowing who Kanye is, but me not. 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:09.240 Knowing who Kanye is. 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.119 And I remember you shotting them out and then him 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:15.320 shotting y'all out, like like really like bigging up the 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:16.080 heavy hitters. 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:19.240 How the fuck did that even happen? All right? So 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:23.320 I ain't know it at the time, okay, but I 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:27.080 had a heavy hitter's record pool, okay. And the office 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:31.800 was on thirty eighth Street. It was Rene McLean's office, 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:37.439 the guy who created to make Sure Right right, But 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:41.720 Legacy Studios was down the block on thirty eighth between 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.280 tenth and eleventh or whatever it was. That's where he 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.840 recorded his first album. And what year was that. It 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:53.480 had to be ninety nine, ninety eight. So all this time, 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:55.959 I'm thinking, Yo, Kanye, this think is on my dick. 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.960 He got a sorry talk. 0:18:59.080 --> 0:18:59.919 I mean, this is the way he was the. 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.760 Damn. I gotta wait, So you text the queen till 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:08.280 I fall back. 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:10.040 So you're telling me, so you're telling me you had 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:11.600 to heard of him. 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:16.320 So I heard of him as a producer as a producer, okay, 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:20.160 So this's no through wire, No yeah, not yet, not yet. 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:22.960 But I was talking it was on his way go 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:28.200 Ahead and one of my DJ's DJ absolutely put on 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:30.960 a mixtape on him like a first freestyle, because nobody else, 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:32.960 nobody else will put his freestyles out. 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:36.040 So absolutely was the first time people never might have 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:36.760 ha been. 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:41.080 The first time they heard Kanye whatever Okaya queen. 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:48.160 Now back in these days, we were at the damn 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.920 what was the what was the studios that that O 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:55.120 g one and Jason Baseline. He was at Baseline a lot. 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:57.960 So this is where I knew from Kanye as a 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:02.880 producer because just Blaze being in the room, Kanye being another, 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.720 or they'd be both in that pre production room, you know, 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:09.800 just banging out beats, banging out beats. I was tied 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:11.639 with Jaco all the time because Jaco put out a 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:15.800 mixtape and I will be there hanging and everybody in 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:21.119 the roster is arguing with Kanye because they want to 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:24.399 be from him. Okay, but like, yo, don't make a 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:27.560 beef for me, man, stop playing, you know with Jim 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:32.399 Cam Beanie Bleak. Everyone talked to him like that, and 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:33.760 it was like it to me, it was like the 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:37.080 like the mad scientists behind the drum machine. You know, 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:41.639 he had ideas, he always wanted a rap, but I 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.600 felt like nobody was giving him a shot. Maybe maybe 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:47.600 because he over delivered in his delivery or something, and 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:49.600 it was like, I don't know, it might have been 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:52.600 too much for me at the time. That's from what 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.560 I remember, Okay, And then. 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.280 How does it go from that to then he then 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:04.240 he then he produces the Blueprint and. 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:10.520 Now now no no, but now Damon Demon and Jay 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:13.320 and them, they signed him as a producer. But I'm 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:16.280 starting to notice like he's been signed for a while, 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:18.840 but there's students, there's still nothing on him. So I'm like, 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:22.320 what's the problem. So in my mind, and I can't 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:25.360 prove it, because that's my famous word right now, I can't. 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:26.879 That. 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:29.720 Uh, maybe did help him because you did just want 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:32.359 to Lockerman as a producer. I mean, he did produce 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:35.639 The Blueprint, one of the greatest hip hop albums right right. 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.119 So anyway, I'm at the office in a record pool 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:42.800 and I'm tighted with Common, I'm tighted with Tyler Quality, 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.480 and these dudes keep coming to the office. They were enough, 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:51.040 you know, and and they heavily coming by because we 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:53.720 got a little studio Peo production studio up there at 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:55.800 the office, and I would do a lot of mixtapes 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:59.960 me and cast one. So then yeah, he's bothering me 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:02.160 on something like you don't want to be a heavy hitter, 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:09.360 so he would now. Stupid me didn't realize where this 0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:12.920 could go. It's too early, you know. I'm like, yo, 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:13.760 my man, you got it. 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.280 Like he's approached you as a heavy head, as a 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:17.880 producer or as. 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:23.240 An actual man. He's just want to I don't want 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:25.040 to be a heavy here that I'm like, yo, man, 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:26.560 I don't got no artists as a heavy head. We 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:29.919 have DJ Clarer, Okay, you can't even DJ. Yeah, but 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:33.159 I make these banking beats. And then that man. If 0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:35.240 I knew what I'd do back then, I would have 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:40.840 signed them to a fifty million. I had no idea, 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:46.840 no idea, make some lawyers for that man. But it 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:49.520 ended up happening, right, He ended up well technically Yeah. 0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:54.280 Then uh, me and my man A G put out 0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:58.560 his Get Home or Welcome Home mixtape, and I remember 0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:00.280 going to the stores with him on the road because 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:01.480 he wanted to know how we did the runs with 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:04.919 the mixtape. We went to the Africans and Canal, We 0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:06.800 went to the Bronx, We went to all the all 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:10.919 the mixtapes and record shops that would sell mixtapes, and 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:14.560 I was trying to push Kanye's tape. Nobody wanted it, 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:19.400 damn nobody. But as I'm starting to play a ship 0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:21.600 on the radio, I'm playing the good, the bad, the 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:26.360 ugly with consequence to him. I'm playing two words by him, 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:29.760 most definitely the Harlem Boys choir. I'm starting to play 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:32.919 some joints that ain't been really released yet. When I 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:36.840 dropped that Jesus Walks, you know, the mixtape went on fire. Yo, 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.240 I need more of those mixtapes. So you said you 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:43.240 want nothing, Now we want them. So I remember I 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:46.120 probably had like about a good fifteen checks for Kanye, 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:50.040 noting nothing big, but just you know, the first couple 0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:52.320 of orders, people wanted the tapes, and he was like, 0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:55.280 now I want the money. Just thank you for you know, 0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:58.200 pushing me and taking care of me, what else whatever, 0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:02.320 And out of nowhere he asked me for my logo. 0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:05.600 And then I thought he was gonna put a mixtape 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:09.200 out of something, and he puts his ship on the album. 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:13.360 I didn't give him, yo, I ain't giving no permission. 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:15.679 I didn't say, yeah, you have to declaimen to put 0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:17.720 this on. But after it was the biggest honor in 0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:20.880 the world, like this dude is getting. Then on top 0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:29.200 of that, he made and then on top of that, 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:32.520 to make it even better, him and GLC make a 0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:37.879 record call heavy Hitters for Life Wow, the B side 0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:42.399 of uh, Jesus walks if I'm not mistaken, and he 0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:47.720 says heavy Hitters for Live Rockefeller or Live. Then he 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:50.480 starts breaking it down, you know, and it's kind of dope, 0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:55.000 but signed very like this. This dude is nuts. He's crazy. 0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:58.160 And after that he got Kim Kardashian and I never 0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:03.320 saw him. We never went on to get I lost 0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:03.800 my friend. 0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:09.240 But so, uh yeah, yeah, thank you. 0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:10.640 You gotta drink amelo, you need something? 0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:14.080 Sure, come have a drink. 0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:19.960 Sunlight Yeah yeah, yeah, little something, a little taste my cup. 0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:24.840 Want you doing that? We got saki, you. 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:31.040 Want sack, tequila, tequila, poppy. 0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:36.880 We can drink Branson Steef. We got Branson. Yeah, We'll 0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:42.560 get your sunlight whatever, whatever I drink, whatever, What do 0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:42.720 we have? 0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:46.560 He said something like, and he says toquila when. 0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:50.119 He's you don't drink what he's drinking the blue label. 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:54.920 I'm down, I'm down living some blue label. I'm not 0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:55.680 drinking out about it. 0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:58.560 Or you could drink some Volly vodka Pulls vodka. 0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:02.119 I got plenty of that shot the bo yeah up 0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:08.040 a bit, Yeah, yeah, that's fine, that's fine. Okay, I 0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:10.479 was gonna go if you're looking, I want to go, 0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:12.720 because we're skating them around things and we're not. 0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:13.800 Really going back both for it. 0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.160 Man, So let's go back to how you even get 0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:19.000 that phone call from Puff to spin for Big, Like, 0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:20.080 what's that relationship? 0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:20.640 How does that get? 0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:26.720 Because I heard somewhere that you actually played Biggs album. 0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:30.840 On Kiss Up and Puff caught you flipping on you. 0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:35.600 Hurged me the fuck out, so and Puff you know 0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:42.280 this is true, so you're mad. So I'm gonna bring 0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:46.359 it back to the essence. Right on fourth on thirteenth 0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.640 Street and Park Avenue in the city was a club 0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:50.160 called the Black Fussy Cat. 0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:53.080 Okay, yeah, when I came out here, we had one 0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:53.520 out here. 0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:58.520 Right because later on it was called Swaye. So I 0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:01.440 knew this. I knew the motors and the bounces of club. 0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:03.840 Now Big was trying to get in the club with 0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:08.119 MP and it wasn't letting them in the club. But 0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:10.520 I was like, damn, you guys think it's just some 0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:14.600 goons from Brooklyn, but they're actually recording artists, the cool people, 0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:16.440 and I promise you they won't get into no trouble. 0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:18.960 So I went to the to the promoters and to 0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:21.280 the security guys, and I told them, you know, let's 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:23.600 let these guys and they're good people. And Big love 0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:27.040 that I did that for him. So on the way 0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:31.080 out we leaving, Big push me to the side, like, yo, 0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:34.760 he this for you. This is my album. Nobody got 0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.760 it yet and this was the real album. Yes, no, 0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:41.760 it was, but it was on a rough It was 0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:42.600 on a TDK. 0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:45.800 Okay it was. 0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:49.919 So he gets just me in a cassette and I'm like, 0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:53.160 I ain't really paying no mind. You know, it might 0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.640 have been on Tuesday or Wednesday, and then not not 0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:57.399 not to Thursday. I realized, you know, I got this 0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:59.920 guy's album. But to put it in content. 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.280 What records did he have out already partying bullshit? 0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:07.200 Partying with a super Cat? Had the Mary Jay record? Yeah? 0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:11.760 Only two or three? Yeah, So the buzz was on 0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:14.040 him already even when he dropped this party and bullshit, 0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:16.560 the buzz was already on him because he had a 0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:21.600 special voice. So back in those days, you know as 0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.840 DJ is a thirsty They played new Ship, right, So 0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.200 I go to my guy, his name is Chris Paccardo, 0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:30.040 shot to him and I think he helped me clean 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:34.119 up the majority of the album on the cassette and 0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:37.320 he gives it back to me. Some records you put 0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:41.000 in the system. That means like on the radio station. 0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:43.280 We have a thing that's called the system, which is 0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:46.920 like their computer, not not a cassette. I don't see 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:51.240 the in the computer. So at any moment, I could 0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:54.480 just pick whatever record and it's like I could play 0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:56.800 a bomb or something, and then we go right into 0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:00.640 a record off the album. So we did this multiple 0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:06.080 times throughout the night, and and and back. Then Supernatural 0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:06.520 was my. 0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:16.400 Host DJ, and I don't even know that yeah real 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.520 hip hop, right, it's the real yippire. 0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:22.920 So I'm playing it, playing it, and it gets to 0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:28.480 a point where like the hotline rings or the red 0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:31.120 the red the red phone whatever that is like a 0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:34.600 special line, special line whatever. The voss is usually called 0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.800 hold you on this line. So I pick it up 0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:43.880 Hope for Hope for Diddy, a hope of hope of Puff. 0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:49.680 I don't think he was Diddy yet, so I was like, 0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.600 what up. He's like, Yo, what the fuck are you doing. 0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:58.400 I'm like, I'm in celebration mode. I'm happy my man 0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:00.800 Big gave me the album I'm in MO. It was 0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:04.120 about Brooklyn confidant. I'm on a radio, I'm shutting the 0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:06.800 city fucking down. So I'm thinking he's calling on it 0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:09.520 to say thank you. I see what you're doing. He's like, 0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:14.240 what the fuck are you doing. I'm like, like Jackie glicaid, 0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:21.400 I was like, I didn't know what to say. So, 0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:25.160 when you think about it today, I didn't know what 0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:28.760 it meant for an for a label to roll out 0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:32.040 a single, roll out a project, what kind of money 0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:36.680 was involved. It was poster boards, it was stickers, whether 0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:39.240 it was a deal with a radio station, you know, 0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:42.240 a touring situation. I didn't have no idea what any 0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.960 of that was, so I might have screwed that up. 0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:48.840 It's a big right, So he's cursing me out, I'll 0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:54.200 kill you, motherfucker mob here like, uh, the music is 0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:58.160 in the background, but he's he's clearly in my ear 0:30:58.640 --> 0:30:59.080 killing me. 0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:05.040 He's still playing the record. Give me the business. 0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:12.160 And then I don't see him for like weeks months, 0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.640 nothing and I'll bumping him the club nothing and then 0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:19.640 I go to this uh ninety seven used to have 0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:23.600 this thing called a Player's Ball, Okay, yeah, I remember 0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:27.040 that it was, but the same thing as it was 0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.920 very so it was there. It was their interpretation of 0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.840 what they would maybe tell the listeners to play a ball. 0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:37.320 Used to like host a couple of times, right, yeah, 0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:41.360 so that was hosted by our station at the time. 0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:44.760 It was it was ed lover Miss Jones. 0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:46.240 Me. 0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:50.000 And then I remember like Angie Martinez coming through school, 0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:56.160 Coco Chanel, Jazzy Joyce, that was like the vibe. And 0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.680 I see him in the hallway because that same weekend 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:03.200 that we're doing this Player's Ball is some sort of 0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:08.080 signing or some sort of party, maybe a listening playback 0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:14.000 or press release something from Mary J. Blige My Life's album. 0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:17.000 So I'm like, oh shit. He goes pumps, so I'm like, 0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:20.200 I haven't seen him since he cursed me the funk out. 0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.520 So then he's like, yo, let me talk to you 0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:27.840 some over here, like oh ship here comes to bullshit 0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:31.720 and he flips it on me and he's like, yall 0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:32.840 want you to go on the road with b I G. 0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:36.360 What you think. Hm, I'm like the change of course. 0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:40.880 You know, I thought he was mad, but she was 0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:44.040 an He's like, yo, are you understand what I'm saying. 0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:51.400 I'm like, huh, like I'm stuck on stupid now because 0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:53.640 I don't. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready for that. 0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:56.080 He does, I want you to go on the road. 0:32:56.160 --> 0:33:05.440 But we're big, So I was like, big, I just 0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:09.360 got my radio, gig, got kissed. I'm feeling myself so like, 0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.920 I don't know, let me think about it. He says, what, 0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:16.680 she didn't even think about it. So I think you 0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:18.640 might have say, like you a wild boy or some ship, 0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:21.400 I don't know whatever. That sounds like him, But I 0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:24.600 kept it moving. And you know, I guess him and 0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:29.120 uh him and him and Jessica Rosevel Bloom are real tight. 0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:35.800 And I guess, yeah, she ran the tunnel. She ran 0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:42.680 them some squad DJs. Mhm mhmm. Yeah, So I guess 0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:45.200 they got to talking and then she came back around 0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:46.760 to me, was like, yo, I think you should do it. 0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:50.800 Blah blah blah blah blah. I said, I tried it out, 0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:54.320 tried it out, had a great time, changed my life. Yes, 0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:58.400 that's the one gig that I did that people to 0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.960 this day still ask the most question, what's about Well 0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:02.320 big big did. 0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:10.680 Now it was like a monumental thing that happened in 0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:14.080 radio right before we get to what's happening right nowadays. 0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:16.720 Was back in the days, well not back in the days. 0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:21.760 But when Angie Martinez announced that when she was leaving 0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:26.640 Hot seven, like that ship was like it was like 0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:29.759 a blow to everyone because I mean me personally. 0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:30.719 Broke my heart broke that day. 0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:33.680 I was like, oh, so, so you didn't you didn't 0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:36.879 know prior to this, like keep it real, No, I didn't, you. 0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:39.440 Didn't she said, She said, she called my phone, but 0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:44.560 my number's been a safe I love you. I don't know. 0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.160 I don't remember getting a phone call. I don't think anybody. 0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:49.560 And maybe she was smart because she was moving in 0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:53.400 silence smart and she couldn't probably tell nobody, you know, 0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:55.840 that's just part of the deal. So we had accepted. 0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.399 So when she left, I was like, good fun man. 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.960 She did that with elegance, right, she did that execution 0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:05.320 that building that day was like mouth drop. 0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:07.120 You know why she did it right? She didn't cried 0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:07.759 like me. 0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:17.359 Shout age many but I didn't see anything you did 0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:23.840 for thirty years anything. Yeah, rap, Yeah, the reports didn't 0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:24.799 take thirty years to make. 0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:27.279 The boy report is almost thirty years old because in 0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:30.319 twenty seven, but it didn't take you thirty years to 0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:30.759 make it. 0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:33.160 Do you understand my point? 0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:36.759 Yeah? But it's the same ship. I mean, I've got 0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:37.280 to say. 0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:40.040 I feel you, I feel you. We're gonna get it, 0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:40.640 We're gonna get this. 0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:43.080 But what we talked about was just so into that 0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:49.359 what happened. Yes, so I remember, you know, and this 0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:51.880 is this is not the same. But I remember like 0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:54.680 me being in depth, Jam and Leo all knowing he leaving. 0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:58.400 He would walk around different, right, like like I was 0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:01.400 there like three days straight and I would look at 0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:04.440 you could tell like he was hiding something, right because 0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:07.240 he can't legally tell anybody I'm leaving. 0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:11.920 You understand was that no one never knew that about it, 0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:14.120 or like no one had no clue. 0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:16.959 Okay, so I think everybody knew at the same time 0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:18.000 that day. 0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.640 Now, how did it happen that, you guys know, she 0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:22.920 announced it on the station. 0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:28.320 She made an announcement. I forgot she made an email 0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:31.040 phone call. But yeah, it's like if I did find out. 0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:32.040 It was literally the same day. 0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:35.200 What I remember she made her like everybody pulled up 0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:39.400 and she made that announcement and it was like balloons 0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:40.759 and cakes and all types of. 0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:44.960 Now letting the Mary J. Bloge came. Taraji p Henson came, right, 0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:49.640 I'm p Henson like just who are you guys going 0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:55.080 to be? Okay, there's gonna be better things for you. 0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:58.200 And everybody pulled up and she didn't tell a war 0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:00.400 what what she was doing. She's like, yah, just you know, 0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:03.480 I'm done, done that. I'm leaving my last day. But 0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:07.600 you know, everybody came to celebrate her. Everybody's crying. The 0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:11.280 whole station pulled up, facts, the phone calls. 0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:12.120 Every artist calling. 0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:16.560 It was a celebration, you know, but the city was hurt, like, 0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:18.000 oh my god. 0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.800 How ninety seven is over? It's over? 0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:23.200 Like you know that's the that was the queen, like 0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:25.520 a voice in New York like, so yeah, it was. 0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:27.760 It was. That was tough. That was tough. 0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:31.360 Okay. Now you know if you used to work on 0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:32.600 the Star in work Wow. 0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:35.200 Show yes sir, and I believe you quick, yeah, And 0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:38.600 that's how you got your own slot, right, Well, something 0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:38.879 like that. 0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.359 Something like that. I'm I'm so. 0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:46.320 This is this is something you've probably never been asked before, 0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:51.160 Like how did you feel when Envy left the station 0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:53.000 and started the breakfast cloud. 0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:56.880 I was like, great for him, Okay, I was okay, 0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:01.719 I was happy for Well. People don't seem to understand, right, 0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:06.399 just because Envy's at the other station doesn't mean he's 0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:09.800 not my guy. That's my guy. I got sick in 0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:13.239 twenty nineteen, had a stroke and I was fucked up. 0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:18.160 And Envy was the one who calls this guy and says, yo, 0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.960 we don't know what enough situation is. His monetary situation is. 0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:25.120 He might be fucked up. You know, he's not doing gigs, 0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.560 he's not outside. He might he might whatever. And then 0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.600 I started getting this is like during the cash at 0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:35.600 venmo Era, I started getting old this thing and I'm like, 0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:38.319 what the fuck is this? I called this dude, like, yo, 0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.959 why in by sending me money? That we spoke to Envy. 0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:43.600 Envy brought it up and I was like, look, the 0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:48.600 competition is calling to help and send love. I thought 0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:52.760 I was the most incredible SHITNK. Not my best friend, 0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:54.719 but not somebody I'll do up with. 0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:02.719 But real talk, real talk like there was never when 0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:06.400 he went over there, we was always cool. Nothing changed. 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:08.359 I used to I used to do the show like 0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:12.120 on Sundays. I used to don't show envy and we 0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:13.440 used to be on then I used to hop on 0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:15.759 right after. So we were like always seeing each other 0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:18.919 every weekend. When he went over there, they was to love. 0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:20.799 No, but I'm gonna be honest. Let me just be honest. 0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:21.560 I'm gonna be honest. 0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.400 At one point, it was just Hot ninety seven, right, yeah, 0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:28.360 so if you didn't get Hot ninety seven, your ass 0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:29.040 was finished. 0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:29.440 Right. 0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:36.080 Power went on five came option kind of even the 0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:39.839 playing field. The problem was when they first came, they 0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:41.719 didn't have no players from Hot ninety seven. 0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:46.360 No, So when Envy game, I felt like it. So 0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:50.359 I think I think Clue was first. Yes, I don't 0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:52.120 remember the old I think Clue went first. 0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.759 Cool, No, No, it had to be the brother Stu first. 0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:57.640 He might he might know this. I don't know. I 0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:00.000 think we went first. Okay, I think Clue made them 0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:04.600 move first. Okay, it was envy, Okay, what is the 0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:09.680 probably love first? Well yeah, yeah, you're right right right. 0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:13.520 That level was crazy, but at level was like, you know, 0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:15.280 you know what I'm saying. 0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:17.920 The person he was still the big voice of the 0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:18.560 city man. 0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:22.120 With envy clue left. It was like, okay. It was 0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:24.440 because I remember, I don't know if you remember, I 0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:27.000 know you got to remember this. 0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:33.920 This is after the shootout and I was banned. He 0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:37.520 was like, let me tell you something. This is the 0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.800 crazy ship if you notice, and that in that time, 0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:43.680 every other artist will go to the Power one O 0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:45.760 five and say I flipped the switch. 0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:48.760 I remember that. That was that was the campaign. 0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.879 That was their campaign. I did you the fire, nor 0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:52.880 we say I flipped the switch. 0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:55.160 Never did that. I could never do that because. 0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:02.759 Now to money in those days, now years later, maybe 0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.840 I don't know what I'm saying, like yeah, because you 0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:12.720 know why, like Russell Simmons had to go what's her name, Tracy, Yeah. 0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:14.920 Russell Simmons had to go. I didn't take the shot. 0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:19.759 And talk to them, and my record was number one, 0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:22.920 grit me. It was grimy that was pulled and then 0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.000 it was you like and as soon as I came. 0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:26.520 Back, I got geral office. 0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:28.600 I was like, here be back, and it was like. 0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:30.719 It's a go. And then I think it was kind 0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:31.560 to somebody was. 0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:37.239 Like, it's a goal, grab me right back to number one, 0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:42.160 and I was so, do y'all do y'all understand? So 0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:46.120 how did how did y'all look at that that plan field? 0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:49.120 Because at one point it was just y'all right, and 0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:52.040 then we have this other station that come and. 0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:55.920 Then we got Angie. Like once Angie went over there, it. 0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:58.719 Was like all right, cool, like like everybody's like kind 0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:01.040 of even. Like now it's like it's like the Mets 0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:02.080 and the Yankees. 0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:04.040 Now for real, like you know what it did though, 0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:07.160 what you guys didn't understand? It watered the hip hop 0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:13.040 came down. Okay, explain that because now we're playing politics, right, 0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:16.319 and the politics is this. Now we're not gonna play 0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:19.520 that RMB song. Why because they're playing it's power playing 0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:22.719 it or whatever. We don't. We don't play R and B. 0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:24.839 We're a hip hop station, you know what. Let them 0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:26.799 play it first and then they'll take it to a 0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:28.719 certain level that we just take it and run with it. 0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:33.600 It became on loud and then it came you know what, enough, 0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:35.880 we love what you're doing. But from now one, I 0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:39.520 wants to play four of these songs our but that 0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:42.800 was the very beginning of it. Let me play advocate. 0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:46.480 I was like, damn, but that's how it used to 0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:49.600 be for us and other like like if you're going 0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:54.000 to Philly, yeah, say there's enough playing that. Yeah, they'll 0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:56.880 say it's flex playing it. You know what I'm saying. 0:42:56.480 --> 0:43:02.960 The market, Yeah, it was like you from those markets 0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:04.400 slextly enough not playing it? 0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:08.640 Yeah right, yes, yes, that's even like cosmical. 0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:11.560 That's the only reason why they would bring that up. 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:15.480 Listen, when I started hot, I started midnights and it 0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:18.200 was like, okay, you're on four o'clock, have a good time. 0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:21.880 Played that. I had no rules. In fact, go in 0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.880 whatever's hide in the street whatever. It was like the uncut. 0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:29.960 Power came and then our hand started getting handcuffed little 0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:33.399 by right, Oh, you got to stick to this, stick 0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:37.120 to that and what he means like water diamonds. Now, 0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:40.600 now start getting political. Now it's not hip hopping. No, 0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:42.600 it's not coming from here. It's coming from here. 0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:46.440 But you got rules right, right, right, absolutely so, And 0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:50.160 that's when people don't understand. You know, it gets real. 0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:52.920 Tough for radio, like and that war was a little 0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:56.240 oh it got outside. 0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:57.640 Looking at I was like what are y'all doing? 0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:03.520 But I meant it got yeah, it got petty, super 0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:04.480 he got petty. 0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.080 And at first it was fun. It was, but you 0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:08.600 can tell it wasn't fun anymore. 0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:11.320 I'm going to keep it a buck. Kind of slipped. 0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:14.160 It kind of separated the city, which was whack. And 0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:15.200 I said, to this day. 0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:17.440 Yeah, because you can't go to a power one of 0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:21.359 five party. Why I can't DJ with envy? Why can't 0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:24.160 you you with pro stout? Why can't what right? 0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:26.880 And it was like, hold up and pro stouts are 0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:27.839 heavy hit the right? 0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:28.480 He was? 0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:48.560 He was, I mean, especially at that time, shout the pro. 0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:43.040 Politics and yo, I'm not here to shore on nobody. 0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:46.720 I love you, bro, But he was. He was playing. 0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:50.000 He was being the general. You can't funk with that side. 0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:58.080 Ya was Crimson blood at one point, I remember, yeah. 0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:01.400 And and it hurts the It hurt to say, and 0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:04.479 I understood the what guy radio? But you know, once 0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:07.880 we're out that building, mhm, we are here in the streets. 0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:10.360 The way the world was, Bro, you pulled up in 0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:12.160 the club, we got stickers, were putting our stickers in 0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:15.200 the club. Then they would come and put their sticker 0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:20.640 over our thinker like b streets. That's what it was. 0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:23.000 Unfortunately, I got caught up in that a little bit 0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:24.000 because I got brainwashed. 0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:25.160 I can't front I got caught. 0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:28.040 I was young on Radio No No, and I was like, oh, yeah, 0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:30.800 all them guys and little by little started getting brainwashed. 0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:32.680 You know, we all get brainwashed. And then I started 0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:33.120 what happened. 0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:33.479 What happened. 0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:36.960 I started following ABRO's energy. Right, you can't fuck with 0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:40.120 that side. But I'm still a rookie a radio I'm 0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:43.719 I'm like, well, yeah, we can't fuck with that side. 0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:46.759 I started phoning for it, and I regret that. I 0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:49.480 regret that because that was nonsense. You know, you can't 0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:53.360 the other day and I shade of nobody. 0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:53.560 You know. 0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.160 I think abral was a great PD. He was doing 0:45:56.239 --> 0:46:00.239 his job. We wanted to win, that's it. But you 0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:02.200 know why it was great, bro, And I'm gonna tell 0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:06.239 you why because you protected us. Yes, he thought for us, 0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:09.640 the DJ that's the difference, right, and I got it. 0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:12.799 A lot of pds don't fight. They do their job 0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:17.480 when she gets hairy, right you know. 0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:19.520 So you know it was ugly, but at the same 0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:22.400 time as competition. At the end of the day, I 0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:24.520 could speak for myself and enough we got along with 0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:26.520 everybody at the end of the day. 0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:28.000 But you know what I'm saying. 0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:31.879 I mean, at some point it's still competition. You still 0:46:31.920 --> 0:46:35.320 want to have the better set. Of course, you go 0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:35.840 in and. 0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:39.600 And then then and then when when you put it 0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:42.000 on a spot that you can't play with homeboy so 0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:44.239 you gotta do, then you're competing. He's at that coup, 0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:46.680 I'm gona here, and it becomes crazy competition. 0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:48.440 I mean, y'all could compete, but at the end of 0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:50.439 the day, you guys are home team as a city. 0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:52.200 That's the way it really should write. 0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:55.520 And that's where the toxic stops just started getting toxic. 0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:55.960 You know. 0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:58.480 But listen, after a couple of years, I was like, 0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:00.680 this is is bullshit. I ain't doing this. 0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:02.880 And then and then did you did you think Flex 0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:04.680 had a a part in that as well? 0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:07.360 Like because he's forget. 0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:10.480 About he he was this and that's it. You know, 0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:12.560 I saw a different I was like, yo, okay, this 0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:16.320 is cool on the radio, no doubt we're winning. But 0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:20.760 once we're out there, right, it ain't that serious. 0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:21.000 Man. 0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:24.239 It's like playing baseball, right, Yeah, the game is over 0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:27.560 having drinks at the at the after party with the 0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:34.040 fact that said mind warning, all right, you are ready. 0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:38.439 Let me get a drink. 0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:44.040 He said, let me a drink because off, because I 0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:47.880 guess pretty much? Which right when we cover in Bride? 0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:48.359 Which right? 0:47:49.600 --> 0:48:01.480 Cool? Want to be surrounded brother? What's up one? I 0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:03.319 want to ask this king. 0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:08.000 I kept searching all your interviews and things you've done, 0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:09.400 and you always said. 0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:12.000 I started heavy. 0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:15.640 Hitting this because I was never accepted in the big 0:48:15.719 --> 0:48:16.160 dog pep. 0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:17.560 That's one hundred percent of truth. 0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:19.120 You always say it playing around. 0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:27.080 So I was tight? Okay? So so you mean that? 0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:28.279 Have you asked him? 0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:28.400 Oh? 0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:31.160 He yo, bro okay. I remember being at the radio 0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:35.040 station and he was announcing like new DJs who was 0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:38.640 part of his collective, and it was like the DJ Twins, 0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:40.799 the guys used to be a red man. He started 0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:43.759 naming all these like DJ Premier whoever it was back 0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:45.960 at that and you at the station looking at him. Yeah, 0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:50.200 in the hallway, I was like, my man, we ain't 0:48:50.239 --> 0:48:52.560 gonna make me a big dup hit bull and then 0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:55.440 hit me with the you know, my man, you know 0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:57.920 the last crew, the last crew that I was a 0:48:58.000 --> 0:49:01.360 part of, the flip Squad DJs that wasn't really mine, 0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:05.359 that was Jessica's and this crew. I want this one 0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:08.719 to be mine, and you know, I think for this one, 0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:12.439 I'm gonna ask you to sit out. So he told 0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:15.160 me honestly, he told me straight up, but he was like, like, 0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:18.560 this ain't for me. So I was like it was 0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:21.520 almost like a balloon got deflated. I was like. 0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:25.080 That all sounds like saying you're so big this one 0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:28.239 for me, you could do your own kind of like that. 0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:31.520 I mean, that wasn't thing. But look, in a weird way, 0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:35.320 me and me and Funk got a real love and 0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:38.600 hate relationship, right because we just go back so long. 0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:41.920 But he would tell me my ears. He was like, yeah, 0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:44.319 when you was gonna kiss, you kicked my ass when 0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:46.520 you played this record. And he was cutting up this 0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:49.720 record like he would give me my flowers, but behind 0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:53.759 closed doors, and I was like, damn, why he do that? 0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:58.279 And a part of you know, the conversation, you know, 0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:01.880 because this might be the last gonna talk about it. Yeah, 0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:05.000 But at the end of the day, I always felt 0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:12.439 like just because I'm moving a certain way and maybe 0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:15.120 you don't know about certain things or it's not the 0:50:15.160 --> 0:50:19.239 way you move doesn't mean I should be punished. You 0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:22.520 understand my point? So that that's kind of like the 0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:26.960 gist of this. So when I couldn't become a big 0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:31.120 little pibow recipes. DJ Threat he's the one that put 0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:33.000 up the idea. He was like, Yo, what we're gonna do, 0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:36.440 man about your own fucking crew. So I was like 0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:38.520 what And I didn't think about it. 0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:41.200 I said, DJ Threat put a battery on this guy. 0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:47.040 He did. He said literally, he was like masterflight. And 0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:49.480 I was like, damn. While we going there, like it's 0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:52.759 not Ain't that serious right? And he's like, NA, we're 0:50:52.760 --> 0:50:55.240 gonna we're gonna call it the heavy Hitters because your handled. 0:50:55.520 --> 0:50:58.280 My handle at the time was the heavy hitter. DJ 0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:05.480 and he was an old chubby and and and we 0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:08.600 used to have fat boy talking rating. I used to 0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:10.880 do a chip called the Midnight Run. I was on 0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:13.719 twelve to midnight till four in the morning, and the 0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:16.440 fat boy talk was all we talked about was the 0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:20.200 spots we get, the food, the best pizza, the best chicken, 0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:25.120 parmesan heroes, the best burgers. Real fat boy. This is 0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:29.160 before vegan life, before healthy anything. You know, I'm three 0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:32.839 hundred pounds talking fat boy talk because because in New 0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:36.120 York or any big city, even like Miami, you bring 0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:39.960 food up, you put a debate. If I say it's 0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:42.960 the best fried chicken in the world, somebody always got 0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:44.600 something to say, No, I get the best chicken. This 0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:48.879 to Miami again, New York Pizza Miami. Now, I don't 0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:54.360 care what almost like the chicken sandwich beef that Popeyes 0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:58.800 and Chick fil a and whatever, the McDonald's whatever sandwich 0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:01.440 that was a real beef. The internet went crazy off 0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:03.480 for that. So that's what it was. 0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:06.400 So and then the heavy hit is behold up before 0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:11.399 the DJ crews wise, was it Flip Squad then Big 0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:13.920 Dog Pipples? What other DJ crews were around at that time, 0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:16.320 especially for radio and radio? 0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:19.080 I mean even period, because the only ones I knew 0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:22.359 were the Pirate DJs in the Bay. They had a crew, 0:52:22.680 --> 0:52:25.440 the Pirate dj I remember that, because then shortly after 0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:30.360 you had the Technicians and the Technicians Union DJ's in 0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:34.239 the city that came after that that way after, so. 0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:37.120 It was just Big Dog Pipples. Really at that moment. 0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:40.520 There was other DJ crews, but they went on radio, 0:52:40.840 --> 0:52:42.600 right it was more like DJs. 0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:44.399 Who battled No, no, no, I'm talking about radio because 0:52:44.400 --> 0:52:48.120 that that at that moment, having been able to get 0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:51.359 everybody together and unison on radio is a big deal. 0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:55.200 That's a power move. So at that point, Big Dog 0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:58.000 Pipples had that on lock and then you come in. 0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:02.600 So he created that. Do you think that was that? 0:53:02.800 --> 0:53:05.400 What started the competition right there? Is that you actually 0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:06.799 went and started your own crew. 0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:12.560 I mean, this is the one thing I'm gonna bring 0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:17.719 up and rest in peace to mississ mssr C. Really 0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:21.560 very very good friend of mine, and that's the peace. 0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:23.919 He came to me one day at the radio station 0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:26.520 and he's like, damn near the vice president of the 0:53:26.520 --> 0:53:33.120 Big Dog pippolls right, and he says, yo, he you've 0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:37.080 given all these DJs a shot. You're not afraid of 0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:41.799 them taking your job? And I was like, no, see, 0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:46.640 you know why where me and you come from, these 0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:49.719 kids ain't got nothing. And for us to give him 0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:52.799 an opportunity to shine a little bit, what's the hurting 0:53:52.880 --> 0:53:55.120 that ain't? What's the hurting that bro? 0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:58.239 So what you so what are you saying? Like Big 0:53:58.320 --> 0:53:59.839 Dog pick bulls will only sign people. 0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:08.040 No, I don't think they understood there the more of 0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:12.040 a rale part of being a human being. And I 0:54:12.200 --> 0:54:14.799 understand this competition. Understand people want to be number one 0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:16.480 and the king of this and the king of that. 0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:21.359 But you see somebody busting their butt week after week 0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:23.560 at the club. He's doing his thing, he's making a 0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:26.600 little bit of noise. You know, he's good. He's probably 0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:28.839 even better than some DJs you know on your own station. 0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:31.080 So he's like, you know what, come up here, man, 0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:34.200 you co signed him. Go do a mixed show, Go 0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:37.400 do a mix weekend, Go busting out on Saturday, Go 0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:40.640 do your thing. You know what's the hurt in that? 0:54:42.120 --> 0:54:49.800 How you hurting? So that's all this, that's well. And 0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:54.399 then we became family. Bro, that's the biggest thing. Like, listen, 0:54:54.480 --> 0:54:58.560 I'm the third guy he put down. Who's threat? It 0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:04.080 was me and threat And then this fanatic I was 0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:08.320 in midtown Manhattan, somewhere I found no where you probably 0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:10.040 was going to a gig or coming from a gig, 0:55:11.200 --> 0:55:14.640 and I was like, yo, threat, who we're gonna put down? 0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:17.160 He said, I don't know. Let's let's figure it out. 0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:19.920 And then DJ come on walks around the corner like 0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:25.799 literally hit and I said, what about come alo? He goes, yeah, 0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:28.640 I like coming though I like Comlo too. Yo, come on, 0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:30.000 you want to be down with us? We start a 0:55:30.040 --> 0:55:30.399 new DJ. 0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:31.960 Yo. 0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:35.799 How you been doing at the time just mixtapes? Back 0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:38.680 there was just clubs and mixtapes. I was, yeah, that 0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:44.840 was no story. He said yes, without even no hesitation. No, 0:55:45.160 --> 0:55:48.480 nothing that was and mind you haven't this was nothing? 0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:52.160 Then what an idea? And I said, what a crew? Yeah, 0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:53.880 I'm down, let's go, let's go. 0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:57.160 And I wasgging, mind you, I'm talking to DJ enough 0:55:58.080 --> 0:56:01.200 for you, and this even doing this show called Midnight 0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:03.319 run Night said midnight late. 0:56:03.800 --> 0:56:05.319 I was just tuning it on the way to club, 0:56:05.440 --> 0:56:08.200 like killing it, that's all. 0:56:08.239 --> 0:56:12.160 You start bodying it. And then this guy says, you 0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:15.240 want to be down with me? And there's no questions, 0:56:15.719 --> 0:56:18.000 like did not even think about let's go? And it 0:56:18.080 --> 0:56:21.319 started right there and and and this. 0:56:21.440 --> 0:56:23.480 Is for lack of a better term. Were you local 0:56:23.560 --> 0:56:24.040 at the time? 0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:30.600 Super local? Okay, local? Super I was local around the 0:56:30.640 --> 0:56:32.640 way Blanc Boulevard. 0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:34.880 I know, I know you, but I know that, like 0:56:35.280 --> 0:56:37.120 you know, I didn't know if it was just a 0:56:37.200 --> 0:56:38.279 queen's thing, you know what I mean? 0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:42.920 He's from Brooklyn. It was from Long Island. Wow, no 0:56:43.040 --> 0:56:47.440 queens nothing. I was local at the Woodside store was 0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:48.440 the numbers. 0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:53.279 And then I was pushing tapes that maybe I was 0:56:53.320 --> 0:56:55.360 a little not local because of the mixtapes. 0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:59.080 Right was everywhere you work on the mixtapes for five Yeah? 0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:02.600 Yeah yeah, And I used to send this guy mixtape. Yeah. 0:57:02.719 --> 0:57:06.120 I had my store and and I was super local. 0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:08.560 And when he came up to me, what is it 0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:11.000 to think about, Let's go what's next? 0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:13.840 Because you wasn't local, you are already the show with Switzerland. 0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:17.360 I was already moving around. He was. He was living 0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:20.080 in France for a little while doing all this craziness. 0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:25.120 Was living there. I was doing gigs like that. You 0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:27.320 there for weeks, going back and forth back like you 0:57:27.400 --> 0:57:29.120 know enough. It was like my passport. 0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:35.520 But heavy hitters became a monster. Shout out to mister 0:57:35.600 --> 0:57:36.640 MAURICEI out here in Miami. 0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:39.040 So I mean, I think you. 0:57:39.000 --> 0:57:42.000 Should tell one of the things about putting heavy hitters down. 0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:45.400 So I was the rule for us. It was like 0:57:45.680 --> 0:57:49.360 you had to be a dope club DJ, a dope producer, 0:57:50.480 --> 0:57:54.360 or you had to be you had to be a 0:57:54.440 --> 0:57:57.240 mixtape dj. Like those were like the carters, you know, 0:57:57.400 --> 0:58:00.200 like simple things like and then you never got called up, 0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:00.440 I guess. 0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:04.680 But you also had to be hot in your city, 0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:07.680 oh your area, like you have to run your you 0:58:07.800 --> 0:58:08.760 had to be a heavy hit up. 0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:11.400 So for example, you mentioned Pro Style like he was 0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:14.760 hot in Orlandos that was incredible. He was the guy 0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:17.280 in all orland That's why we do our heavy to 0:58:17.400 --> 0:58:20.479 retreats to this day because it started from Pro Style 0:58:21.360 --> 0:58:25.640 because coming up in November, right, yeah, going to Puerto Rico. Warning. 0:58:26.040 --> 0:58:29.800 So how the heavy hit of retreat started was Pro 0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:33.400 Style invited us to a barbecue at his crib in Orlando. 0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:36.160 So he's like, all right, let's do it. Because we 0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:39.080 had we had like a family trip with the heavy 0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:42.160 it is. We went to Universal Studios. So he's like, yeah, 0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:44.280 we're gonna do now. Bro was like, fun, let's comes 0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:48.040 to the crib barbecue. Family. We had a barbecue. It's 0:58:48.120 --> 0:58:50.080 alligators in the lake. Were like, what the hell is 0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:56.840 going on? Like this is Regularida, New York. You know, 0:58:57.000 --> 0:59:00.520 next time that's not regular backyard exactly. 0:59:01.200 --> 0:59:04.000 So so little by Little became a family, you know 0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:06.320 what I'm saying. So you know, little by little fell, 0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:08.680 he fell in the leg. He became a heavy hit up. 0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:10.840 I mean we could see it for days. Fyrus in Chicago, 0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:17.160 mister Mauricio. Internet, it goes international. We got DJ lead 0:59:17.240 --> 0:59:23.400 and Japan, you know, and it. But it wasn't just 0:59:23.480 --> 0:59:26.840 about politics and it was it was a family straight up. 0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:29.919 When when there was times when people couldn't pay their rent, 0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:33.240 or there was a situation somebody got sick. 0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:34.640 Yo yo yo yo yo. 0:59:34.960 --> 0:59:40.320 Yo, chipping bills hold when they talk about it, you know, 0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:42.920 this is real family stuff. DJ is like DJ crews, 0:59:43.680 --> 0:59:46.760 they don't do that. This was different for us, so 0:59:46.920 --> 0:59:50.360 we were very enough. It was very okay, who putting 0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:53.320 out and why? And let's give him some time, you 0:59:53.360 --> 0:59:54.840 know what I'm saying. I'll give you an example. Like DJ, 0:59:55.360 --> 0:59:59.520 he's on a Mega like it took Mega said it 0:59:59.600 --> 1:00:02.080 took him about six to seven years to get down. 1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:04.320 And he was on our next every year, every year, 1:00:04.360 --> 1:00:06.440 every year. And then after a while he showed up 1:00:06.440 --> 1:00:07.840 to one of the heavy headed retreats. It wasn't a 1:00:07.880 --> 1:00:10.920 heavy he it pulled up. I said, yo, eat if 1:00:11.080 --> 1:00:13.360 one guy then earning his stripes is this man right here? 1:00:13.480 --> 1:00:14.120 He don't stop. 1:00:14.840 --> 1:00:16.919 And we put Kalita down. Now he's on prime time 1:00:17.120 --> 1:00:20.160 make it, but he earned the stripes. He called me 1:00:20.240 --> 1:00:23.080 one day, he said, Yo, these guys are calling me. 1:00:23.160 --> 1:00:26.040 They wanted me to get down with this crew. But 1:00:26.160 --> 1:00:28.360 I said, nah, because I'm still waiting to be a 1:00:28.360 --> 1:00:28.840 heavy hitterer. 1:00:29.680 --> 1:00:31.520 That's dope. How long on is that? You know what 1:00:31.520 --> 1:00:32.840 I'm saying? That made me feel good? 1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:37.560 And he still started as a record pool originally. 1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:41.520 Now we got the heavy this foundation, there's a five 1:00:41.600 --> 1:00:44.080 and one C three And what we do is we 1:00:44.440 --> 1:00:47.720 we have drives. So like we went to d R 1:00:48.080 --> 1:00:53.080 one time and we literally built a basketball court for 1:00:53.160 --> 1:00:58.240 a school that was literally underwater, you know, like it 1:00:58.360 --> 1:01:01.320 was a mess. The classrooms are mess. You know, it's 1:01:01.400 --> 1:01:03.600 poverty everywhere. Some kids ain't got it, bro, you'd be 1:01:03.640 --> 1:01:04.320 surprised with they don't. 1:01:04.360 --> 1:01:04.520 God. 1:01:05.400 --> 1:01:08.200 So we started to collect and then my wife put 1:01:08.240 --> 1:01:11.320 it together and she would have, like, I need two 1:01:11.400 --> 1:01:18.560 hundred of bags. And then we've got composite, uh, notebooks, crayons, folders, pens, 1:01:18.600 --> 1:01:21.600 the racists, glue sticks and you know, every little thing 1:01:21.720 --> 1:01:24.320 and even a little toy we're put in there. Right 1:01:25.360 --> 1:01:27.440 and then when you go there and you give him 1:01:27.480 --> 1:01:30.280 these bags to the kids. Also, a little kid, he 1:01:30.360 --> 1:01:33.840 probably was like six years old, he got a little reindeer, 1:01:34.520 --> 1:01:38.800 like a little fluffy reindeer. It probably costs a dollar fifty. 1:01:40.360 --> 1:01:43.440 This kid was like, oh my god, and in tears 1:01:43.600 --> 1:01:47.200 and kids that he got a reindeer. And I was like, 1:01:47.320 --> 1:01:50.800 this is crazy. I said, we got to do this, DR, 1:01:53.040 --> 1:01:54.320 So what else have you done? 1:01:54.360 --> 1:01:56.200 The retreats that a. 1:01:56.240 --> 1:01:59.120 Lot of them were in DR because I have a timeshare, 1:02:00.120 --> 1:02:04.480 are right, and at the time shared they would give 1:02:04.560 --> 1:02:07.640 us like good discounsel with the rooms and we if 1:02:07.640 --> 1:02:09.320 we book a certain amount of rooms, they'll throw a 1:02:09.400 --> 1:02:10.840 few rooms for free at us. 1:02:10.960 --> 1:02:11.200 Whatever. 1:02:11.760 --> 1:02:14.040 That's the way we did it. And then we started 1:02:14.040 --> 1:02:19.160 to venture out to different places. And now it's now 1:02:19.240 --> 1:02:22.480 it's like wherever we go, we're gonna look for places. 1:02:22.560 --> 1:02:26.200 Like my wife used to be an aba therapist for autism. 1:02:27.320 --> 1:02:29.400 When we went to we went to a school and 1:02:30.360 --> 1:02:34.640 and Dominican Republic, they don't even recognize autism as a whole. 1:02:35.360 --> 1:02:40.440 So my wife took all her legal teachings of being 1:02:40.440 --> 1:02:43.120 an aba therapist and what's good for them, and she 1:02:43.280 --> 1:02:46.560 translated everything in Spanish so they could read and learn. 1:02:47.320 --> 1:02:50.440 And you go to these schools that're fucked up. They 1:02:50.520 --> 1:02:54.080 have no floors, they're not even clean, they have no 1:02:54.200 --> 1:02:57.360 cushions for the kids to sit on or whatever. So 1:02:57.560 --> 1:03:00.760 I'm not saying we could make everything per figure, but 1:03:00.880 --> 1:03:03.080 we're gonna make it a little bit better. Make it 1:03:03.080 --> 1:03:06.240 a little bit better, bros. Because you know what, we 1:03:06.360 --> 1:03:08.920 go through these fancy resorts, we turn up, we have 1:03:08.960 --> 1:03:11.280 a good time. But I don't know if you guys know, 1:03:11.480 --> 1:03:15.840 resorts are usually built in fucked up neighborhoods and usually 1:03:15.880 --> 1:03:19.040 push out poor families and poor people. This place, they could, 1:03:19.720 --> 1:03:24.360 you know, build these monumental establishments so that we could 1:03:24.720 --> 1:03:27.840 get a spa massage for ninety minutes, or we could 1:03:28.160 --> 1:03:29.960 you know, you know what I'm saying. That's real talk. 1:03:30.800 --> 1:03:32.960 So that's why we do it, bro. Yeah, it's impoint. 1:03:33.120 --> 1:03:35.120 You know, we could sit as a as a crew 1:03:35.160 --> 1:03:39.360 of family. Were different. We're different and have made its different. 1:03:40.680 --> 1:03:45.120 Now before the other day, have you ever been called 1:03:45.160 --> 1:03:45.800 a snake before? 1:03:46.720 --> 1:03:50.720 What snake made in my life? 1:03:51.000 --> 1:03:51.200 Never? 1:03:51.600 --> 1:03:51.800 Never? 1:03:51.960 --> 1:03:52.080 Right? 1:03:52.320 --> 1:03:53.240 Never ever? 1:03:53.600 --> 1:03:58.080 So how did you feel? Because because your snake number one? Right, yes, 1:03:58.280 --> 1:04:01.560 and then and then Juice Cayn number two, I think, Okay, 1:04:02.240 --> 1:04:05.919 I'm asking for a friend. All right, so who's your friend? 1:04:06.320 --> 1:04:06.840 This guy. 1:04:09.320 --> 1:04:09.600 From the. 1:04:13.680 --> 1:04:20.320 How did you feel hearing that lies? Straight up lies? 1:04:20.360 --> 1:04:20.760 I was like, what? 1:04:21.080 --> 1:04:21.240 Who? 1:04:21.440 --> 1:04:21.560 How? 1:04:21.800 --> 1:04:24.160 How you figuring out? What are we talking about? You know, 1:04:25.960 --> 1:04:29.880 somebody made up a story and changed the narrative. 1:04:31.800 --> 1:04:34.600 To his liking. I don't know why. 1:04:35.640 --> 1:04:38.680 You know, somebody said that I took this man's job 1:04:39.680 --> 1:04:43.880 and I'm sneaked them right, and you know, you know 1:04:44.040 --> 1:04:46.160 enough could tell you how I got that job. 1:04:46.280 --> 1:04:51.520 Ain't going like that. I am, mhmm, what what Tony 1:04:51.880 --> 1:04:52.400 was the fifty? 1:04:53.120 --> 1:04:57.120 That's what I'm telling enough, But I'm loyalist, fuck. 1:04:58.680 --> 1:04:59.280 Hands down. 1:04:59.600 --> 1:05:02.800 Wasn't it a rumor of like red Alert put you 1:05:02.960 --> 1:05:05.240 on and then you had to fire Red Alert at 1:05:05.280 --> 1:05:06.080 some point or something like that. 1:05:08.000 --> 1:05:10.360 Let me clear this up because I heard read it 1:05:10.440 --> 1:05:14.160 on here and Red don't get mad because Red Red 1:05:14.280 --> 1:05:18.760 is stubborn. I love Red Okay. It will always be 1:05:18.880 --> 1:05:28.640 my boss Alert, And I'm glad I'm up here so 1:05:28.680 --> 1:05:35.600 I can tell my side of the story. Now, when 1:05:35.680 --> 1:05:40.200 the higher upside hote these seven at the time, they 1:05:40.240 --> 1:05:44.360 call him into the office and they're like, we want 1:05:44.440 --> 1:05:47.160 you to do the shift from now, one thing would 1:05:47.160 --> 1:05:49.120 be a good look for you, and I'm like, I 1:05:49.160 --> 1:05:51.680 can't do that. That's Red Shift. No, no, no, you 1:05:51.800 --> 1:05:54.560 know listening to me, I'm like, I'm not doing that. 1:05:54.720 --> 1:05:56.920 That's Red Ship. I'm not doing that to him. And 1:05:57.000 --> 1:06:01.600 then I got the evil face like, look, if you 1:06:01.640 --> 1:06:04.600 don't take it, I'm giving it to somebody else. You 1:06:04.720 --> 1:06:06.440 got to Saturday to tell me if you want it 1:06:06.560 --> 1:06:11.720 or not. So I'm like, damn, will wrestle. So then 1:06:11.760 --> 1:06:13.760 I talked to a few other people in the building 1:06:15.720 --> 1:06:17.600 and it was already under the impression that the we 1:06:17.640 --> 1:06:21.000 were trying to get rid of him. I went straight 1:06:21.080 --> 1:06:23.600 to the DJ booth and had to talk with him. 1:06:26.400 --> 1:06:30.040 You know what doctor Kitto is, Yeah, of course right, 1:06:30.520 --> 1:06:33.360 but they can't do it. That's almost like when you 1:06:33.440 --> 1:06:35.920 hit a kid from me, you know, burning still you 1:06:36.000 --> 1:06:39.840 realize that. So I went to go tell Red, and 1:06:39.920 --> 1:06:42.439 Red is the most peaceful DJ in the world. In fact, 1:06:42.520 --> 1:06:44.600 I get it fucked up. I never even heard him 1:06:44.680 --> 1:06:47.720 yell at anybody in the thirty forty plus. Here's I 1:06:47.800 --> 1:06:51.560 know him right. When I told him that I was 1:06:51.720 --> 1:06:56.720 just offered his job, it's almost he was like, get 1:06:56.760 --> 1:07:02.280 out of here, that's not true. I'm like Red I'm 1:07:02.360 --> 1:07:05.160 telling you, like he didn't want to hear me, and 1:07:05.280 --> 1:07:07.680 he was like, no, you know Chris Lddie's his manager 1:07:07.720 --> 1:07:09.960 at the time. Yeah, they were working something out for 1:07:10.040 --> 1:07:14.280 a new contract, whatever it was. So he dismissed me, 1:07:15.480 --> 1:07:18.800 and that was her but he's still my father. So 1:07:18.960 --> 1:07:21.800 I took it whatever and I left. Now this is 1:07:21.840 --> 1:07:26.600 the crazy part. I'm scheduled to go on vacation and 1:07:26.680 --> 1:07:29.920 I went to Puerto Rico so my six month year 1:07:30.000 --> 1:07:32.560 old son could meet his grandmother for the first time. 1:07:33.360 --> 1:07:40.720 So I go and I'm literally there. My son gets thick, 1:07:41.680 --> 1:07:45.480 he gets dehydrated, and one week turns into three weeks 1:07:47.600 --> 1:07:53.640 and it's like, it's crazy. So I miss the firing 1:07:53.920 --> 1:07:56.880 of Red Alert. I'm in Puerto Rico. I had no 1:07:56.920 --> 1:07:59.120 idea what's happening. I knew what was happening, but just 1:07:59.160 --> 1:08:03.920 didn't know when, right, So I guess that Monday I 1:08:04.000 --> 1:08:06.520 was supposed to come back and start to shift. 1:08:06.360 --> 1:08:09.240 Right, and you back then there's no Instagram, there's no 1:08:10.400 --> 1:08:12.680 there's no instant, no smartphones. 1:08:12.760 --> 1:08:16.000 It maybe it's star attack, maybe. 1:08:16.120 --> 1:08:18.720 Right, But that was the rumor though, right, that you 1:08:18.800 --> 1:08:19.439 took his job. 1:08:20.600 --> 1:08:23.120 So I had a salty taste in my mouth because 1:08:23.120 --> 1:08:26.080 it was like I would never take his job. But 1:08:27.120 --> 1:08:29.880 at the end of the day, it was like if 1:08:29.920 --> 1:08:32.200 I don't take it, somebody else will. They're gonna get 1:08:32.280 --> 1:08:35.479 rid of him any way. So at that point I 1:08:35.640 --> 1:08:40.360 was like, oh, Ship, what do I do? Then I 1:08:40.439 --> 1:08:42.160 get a phone call from the girl I'll come back 1:08:42.160 --> 1:08:47.639 and vacation and the job was officially slated for kick 1:08:47.680 --> 1:08:55.720 Capre mm hmm wow wow job wow wow wow kick 1:08:55.800 --> 1:09:00.200 Capree and then I don't know whatever, the conversations word 1:09:00.240 --> 1:09:04.240 didn't work out. Then there was supposed to be DJ 1:09:04.439 --> 1:09:09.080 Ace or then myself because me and Ace were DJs 1:09:09.120 --> 1:09:13.679 that were doing our thing on Kiss FM before ninety 1:09:13.720 --> 1:09:17.200 seven became a thing. We were part of this DJ 1:09:17.560 --> 1:09:20.040 clique called the Bomb Squad. It was only like three 1:09:20.080 --> 1:09:22.800 of us. It wasn't that, no little bomb squad. It 1:09:22.920 --> 1:09:25.360 was a thing because we used to play bombs on 1:09:25.439 --> 1:09:29.759 the radio and then flex toole our idea and boom. 1:09:30.240 --> 1:09:32.639 And then he became the biggest bomb drop off baby. 1:09:38.720 --> 1:09:42.160 So there's a guy named Chris mccardo, and Chris Mercado 1:09:43.080 --> 1:09:49.040 is the sound imaging person at the station who cuts commercials. 1:09:49.680 --> 1:09:52.519 He does he uploads the music into the system, another 1:09:52.600 --> 1:09:55.799 big computer. We talked about the sound effects, the imaging 1:09:55.880 --> 1:10:00.640 for the station that goes Bunny points of you know, 1:10:00.680 --> 1:10:03.160 all that weird stuff they hoisted. They put sound effects. 1:10:03.400 --> 1:10:08.240 He's that guy. He found that sonic boom drop that 1:10:08.320 --> 1:10:11.200 you hit for this day that flex still plays. He 1:10:11.320 --> 1:10:15.160 found that. But the bomb squad we had a we 1:10:15.280 --> 1:10:22.280 had a real cheesy drop. All she went like it 1:10:22.640 --> 1:10:28.760 was horrible. His was like like a sonic destruction. And 1:10:28.840 --> 1:10:33.840 they changed the game with that drop. But that's that's 1:10:33.960 --> 1:10:35.920 my stide of the story, and I'm sticking to it. 1:10:38.080 --> 1:10:42.720 So did you finish about being called a Well, you know. 1:10:42.880 --> 1:10:43.720 I think it's best. 1:10:44.040 --> 1:10:46.639 I think it's best enough tell you how I ended 1:10:46.760 --> 1:10:49.479 up doing five o'clock when he on four o'clock when 1:10:49.479 --> 1:10:49.920 he was doing. 1:10:50.080 --> 1:10:54.479 Because breakdown, because if anybody tuned into seven yesterday, right, 1:10:55.400 --> 1:10:56.320 this come out next week. 1:10:56.400 --> 1:10:57.320 So I apologize. 1:10:57.360 --> 1:11:00.120 But what they were saying is I got just. 1:11:00.200 --> 1:11:03.920 One saying everyone knows how the slots go right, And 1:11:04.040 --> 1:11:06.840 then we got you saying, well you posting the picture 1:11:07.160 --> 1:11:10.360 saying and then you know you're playing yesterday saying take 1:11:10.400 --> 1:11:10.719 the snake. 1:11:10.760 --> 1:11:12.640 You know he was going crazy, all right, So. 1:11:13.320 --> 1:11:19.559 Snake Robert's hold on you was really saying all that. 1:11:21.960 --> 1:11:25.240 What's going down? I got the city late, like I'm loud. 1:11:25.160 --> 1:11:27.760 To you, so you know, you know they call me 1:11:27.800 --> 1:11:29.759 the snake on the radio. I'm like, okay, I'm snaking 1:11:29.800 --> 1:11:31.599 number one. I'm gonna be the best number one snake, 1:11:32.160 --> 1:11:35.240 my hand number snake. You know, if you really want 1:11:35.240 --> 1:11:38.479 to break it down how I got that slot, I'll 1:11:38.520 --> 1:11:40.880 tell you. You know what I'm saying. The year was 1:11:40.920 --> 1:11:45.800 twenty fifteen. Go ahead. This dude was overseas hurt in 1:11:45.880 --> 1:11:49.400 the hospital. He broke his knee or something. I broke 1:11:49.439 --> 1:11:51.519 my knee. I was on tour. I did Italy. 1:11:51.800 --> 1:11:54.760 The next day, I did a country called Moldova and Modova. 1:11:55.200 --> 1:11:58.040 I broke money in a hotel, had an accident. This 1:11:58.200 --> 1:12:00.240 happened on the end the that's. 1:12:00.160 --> 1:12:01.639 WEEA could join. I think you were trying to sneak 1:12:01.680 --> 1:12:05.120 out the bathroom. I fell in the bathroom. That's what happened. 1:12:05.680 --> 1:12:09.639 I broke my knee. Literally in third world, the eastern 1:12:09.720 --> 1:12:10.439 European country. 1:12:11.120 --> 1:12:11.679 This happened. 1:12:11.800 --> 1:12:13.519 If I've been on low, I don't know what Modova is. 1:12:15.080 --> 1:12:17.120 Just so you know, okay, yes, why I fly back? 1:12:17.720 --> 1:12:19.680 I fly back fly back. 1:12:19.800 --> 1:12:23.680 The whole summer I was out of commission, off in 1:12:23.840 --> 1:12:28.080 bed at home, no radio, no gigs. Summer twenty fifteen, 1:12:28.160 --> 1:12:32.479 I'm bed knocked out. Enough is on the radio doing 1:12:32.560 --> 1:12:33.280 what he does best. 1:12:33.439 --> 1:12:36.280 I got a rumor and I heard in the streets 1:12:37.320 --> 1:12:42.920 that four on five off of Caamelo's fly okay, And 1:12:43.040 --> 1:12:45.680 I got tight. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, 1:12:45.920 --> 1:12:49.479 we're not having that. Okay, oh this is this is 1:12:49.560 --> 1:12:52.360 before m was on the radio. He said no, no, 1:12:52.520 --> 1:12:54.519 he was already on the radio rail okay, he didn't 1:12:54.520 --> 1:13:00.439 have he didn't have that time. Stock was doing the 1:13:00.520 --> 1:13:03.080 New I was doing on radio You do it too, 1:13:03.240 --> 1:13:03.920 doing the New two. 1:13:04.280 --> 1:13:06.200 I was doing the New tow for a while and 1:13:06.320 --> 1:13:09.000 we had left and we started that, and we started 1:13:09.040 --> 1:13:11.320 that and we left. I took over Now two and 1:13:11.400 --> 1:13:13.000 I was doing New too, and I was doing Friday's 1:13:13.080 --> 1:13:14.080 Nights heavy hit hour. 1:13:14.439 --> 1:13:16.479 That was that was your official first spot was New two. 1:13:17.240 --> 1:13:19.840 No, my first spot was midnight okay. And then I 1:13:19.880 --> 1:13:21.639 had that short Lights out okay, okay. 1:13:23.680 --> 1:13:28.000 And then when when it first started with I heard 1:13:28.040 --> 1:13:30.160 the rumor that they were trying to take him from us, 1:13:31.439 --> 1:13:34.360 and I had three or four hours on a Friday. 1:13:35.200 --> 1:13:36.599 So I said, now, man, I'm gonna give you extra 1:13:36.680 --> 1:13:39.400 hour on a Friday. You just just called the heavier hour. 1:13:39.479 --> 1:13:41.880 And you know you're a host of DJ. It's all 1:13:42.000 --> 1:13:45.120 yours to try to at least team. This is due 1:13:45.160 --> 1:13:49.519 from leaving because he's hot. He's being twenty fifteen but 1:13:49.600 --> 1:13:53.840 he's still hot, right, He's so hump he's so humble, bro, 1:13:54.560 --> 1:13:56.960 but he's fucking one of the hottest DJs in the city. 1:13:56.960 --> 1:13:57.799 He's on fires. 1:14:02.920 --> 1:14:05.320 So yeah, so he gave me that first loot. It 1:14:05.479 --> 1:14:08.000 used to be his on Fridays, he was on for 1:14:08.120 --> 1:14:10.280 three hours. He gave me that last hour right before 1:14:10.360 --> 1:14:12.479 mister See got on, and it was amazing. That was 1:14:12.520 --> 1:14:14.640 the happiest DJ in the city. You could give me 1:14:14.720 --> 1:14:15.200 nothing else. 1:14:15.960 --> 1:14:21.559 Happy. Everybody's listening, everybody. Everybody's goal. 1:14:21.680 --> 1:14:24.479 Everybody's goal is to be on primetime radio. Every DJ, 1:14:25.479 --> 1:14:26.320 everybody's everybody. 1:14:27.000 --> 1:14:33.479 I'm sorry this warning. Everybody's goal is to be on 1:14:33.560 --> 1:14:34.240 prime time radio. 1:14:34.439 --> 1:14:36.680 If somebody asked me one day, yo, you want to 1:14:36.760 --> 1:14:38.720 be on five o'clock, win enough so on I will 1:14:38.760 --> 1:14:41.880 always say fuck yeall one day one day. 1:14:43.760 --> 1:14:47.519 So you know how it all went down. Since this 1:14:47.640 --> 1:14:52.200 guy's not talking. It all went down is I'm in 1:14:52.280 --> 1:14:53.679 bed out. 1:14:53.560 --> 1:14:57.680 Of commission, trying to recover from his knee injury. Enough 1:14:57.800 --> 1:15:02.000 is doing radio with Nessa, and I don't know what 1:15:02.160 --> 1:15:06.519 happened between them, you know, whether he wasn't happy Ornessa 1:15:06.640 --> 1:15:07.160 wasn't happy. 1:15:08.120 --> 1:15:11.560 The marriage wasn't great, correct, it wasn't good. Bro. I 1:15:11.640 --> 1:15:13.840 welcomed her with open arms, and I felt like she 1:15:14.040 --> 1:15:17.920 was just scrutinizing. You know what I realized to this day, 1:15:18.800 --> 1:15:23.880 and I mean just recently. A lot of us, including y'all, 1:15:24.800 --> 1:15:28.439 we all come from the street, First Club Street. We 1:15:28.520 --> 1:15:32.200 grew up in the street. There's nobody who coached us 1:15:32.320 --> 1:15:35.280 on how to do this. Ain't nobody saying, yo, just 1:15:35.320 --> 1:15:37.680 how you're in a podcast. Nobody came you say you 1:15:37.720 --> 1:15:40.840 do this? How you DJ for none of us. So 1:15:40.960 --> 1:15:43.439 it's all try by era. We do what we can. 1:15:44.080 --> 1:15:46.800 We're trying to be human, video out figure it out right. 1:15:48.960 --> 1:15:54.040 The homegirl came from like like the radio geek squad, 1:15:54.840 --> 1:15:58.000 like she's yo. Her and her producer they like this. 1:15:58.920 --> 1:16:02.040 They're flowing this yo. They don't make no fucking mistakes. 1:16:02.120 --> 1:16:06.120 They great at what they do. Polished. They probably went 1:16:06.160 --> 1:16:07.760 to school. I don't even know. But anyway, they were 1:16:07.880 --> 1:16:10.000 very good. It's just they're just like it's just like 1:16:10.080 --> 1:16:14.680 a machine's almost it's almost too perfect to me. So 1:16:15.520 --> 1:16:16.680 after a while I was like, Yo, I don't know 1:16:16.680 --> 1:16:17.400 if I could deal with this. 1:16:17.560 --> 1:16:17.640 Bro. 1:16:17.840 --> 1:16:20.560 I got I'm a I'm a people person. I'm into this, 1:16:21.120 --> 1:16:24.320 I'm into feelings, emotions, I'm I mean, I gotta go 1:16:24.479 --> 1:16:27.599 somewhere where I feel comfortable. So I got up out 1:16:27.640 --> 1:16:30.320 of there, I say, I'm out. I got off of 1:16:30.360 --> 1:16:34.040 to do a shot in the middays with Megan. She 1:16:34.200 --> 1:16:36.840 was a new girl. She was working here in Miami 1:16:36.920 --> 1:16:40.280 for a little while. And at that time I get 1:16:40.280 --> 1:16:42.080 to I get the phone call, like, Yo, do you 1:16:42.120 --> 1:16:44.840 want to do this? I said, whoa? What howerre? I'm home? 1:16:45.360 --> 1:16:47.479 We're broken the still. I said, you, let's switch, bro, 1:16:48.120 --> 1:16:50.320 I said, first phone call, I didn't call him. I said, 1:16:50.400 --> 1:16:53.360 if you don't mind, can we switch, bro? Because I 1:16:53.360 --> 1:16:56.040 wouldn't mind. It's the same thing, BRO, You're on for 1:16:56.240 --> 1:16:58.479 us ninety minutes. I'm on for a hour. What's the 1:16:59.120 --> 1:17:01.559 what's another fat fifteen twenty minute? Who cares? 1:17:01.800 --> 1:17:03.479 But you know, to keep it a buck. The first 1:17:03.520 --> 1:17:05.360 phone called there was enough yo eat. 1:17:06.120 --> 1:17:08.960 I can't. I don't want this like this. Wait when 1:17:09.080 --> 1:17:09.360 this is? 1:17:09.439 --> 1:17:10.559 This is recently you're talking about. 1:17:10.560 --> 1:17:13.599 This is twenty fifteen when I supposedly took the snake 1:17:13.640 --> 1:17:14.519 over here, took the job. 1:17:15.160 --> 1:17:17.880 So you know, I said, I can't. He said, bro, 1:17:18.960 --> 1:17:19.280 take it. 1:17:19.640 --> 1:17:21.840 If you don't take it, somebody else's and I don't 1:17:21.840 --> 1:17:24.360 want nobody else to take it, but you you deserve it. 1:17:25.439 --> 1:17:31.800 Of course I gotta. I got. That's what I'm real Like, 1:17:31.920 --> 1:17:32.800 what else am I gonna do? 1:17:32.920 --> 1:17:35.400 This is my brother, you know. I he told me 1:17:35.479 --> 1:17:38.599 what it was and what they're he gonna be doing, Say, 1:17:39.520 --> 1:17:41.880 all right, cool? And then you know, then I talked 1:17:41.880 --> 1:17:43.439 to NASA and then whatever it is, what it is. 1:17:43.479 --> 1:17:44.200 And then I got on the. 1:17:44.240 --> 1:17:47.120 Shift, and here we are ten years later, you know, 1:17:47.280 --> 1:17:49.040 and all of a sudden, I'm a snake O. 1:17:49.040 --> 1:17:51.840 Good from back then? From that move. 1:17:51.960 --> 1:17:54.880 Well, that's what they say. Now, that's what somebody said 1:17:55.400 --> 1:17:57.720 that a couple of days ago. That's how it was 1:17:58.560 --> 1:17:59.040 that happened. 1:17:59.200 --> 1:18:01.040 So that's what they're they're recalling that. 1:18:01.120 --> 1:18:06.160 I sneaked him? Did I sneak my brother? Ten years ago? 1:18:06.960 --> 1:18:07.080 Now? 1:18:07.240 --> 1:18:07.960 I sneaked him? 1:18:09.080 --> 1:18:11.120 They were saying from recently. Yea, But you know. 1:18:12.600 --> 1:18:15.680 That's what this is. I'm confused because everybody's thinking that 1:18:16.320 --> 1:18:18.840 this is a two years ago. 1:18:19.040 --> 1:18:21.920 Was was Jeuki on? I don't think he was unht 1:18:22.040 --> 1:18:22.280 he was. 1:18:23.600 --> 1:18:25.960 He was doing boards and he was around. He was 1:18:26.160 --> 1:18:28.799 remember remember Juskie used to do the boards for Angie. 1:18:29.160 --> 1:18:29.599 That's right. 1:18:29.800 --> 1:18:30.799 Forgot what I'm saying. 1:18:30.640 --> 1:18:32.599 Before that you carry records for sounds? 1:18:32.640 --> 1:18:35.519 All right, He's been around. He's not a young new 1:18:35.640 --> 1:18:37.680 boy on the block. He's been in that station for 1:18:37.720 --> 1:18:41.559 a long time. Good dude, a guy that the young, 1:18:41.880 --> 1:18:44.960 the young boys embrace. The young world loves him because 1:18:44.960 --> 1:18:46.000 he supports that music. 1:18:46.360 --> 1:18:47.120 He's that guy. 1:18:47.240 --> 1:18:49.639 They look for him. They don't look for nobody else. 1:18:49.640 --> 1:18:51.960 They look for him. You know a lot of people 1:18:52.040 --> 1:18:52.320 hate that. 1:18:53.240 --> 1:18:55.880 So he act straight up put the band aid off. 1:18:59.760 --> 1:19:01.000 Do you think he got you fired? 1:19:10.400 --> 1:19:19.120 Yeah? I'm just thinking about it for a second, Okay. 1:19:19.800 --> 1:19:21.600 I mean, I know he says he loves me. He 1:19:21.760 --> 1:19:25.120 says TM is not going to get whatever or whatever. 1:19:26.320 --> 1:19:29.920 But how do you sure love like that? Not like that. 1:19:31.680 --> 1:19:33.840 It's deeper than rat man, it's deeper than that. But 1:19:34.280 --> 1:19:35.840 I don't you know, every want to talk. 1:19:35.920 --> 1:19:39.479 Yeah, we've been around for a long time together saying, 1:19:39.640 --> 1:19:42.720 just period, all of us doing what we do, and 1:19:42.800 --> 1:19:47.519 I know everybody goes their way at times, and I know, look, 1:19:48.240 --> 1:19:50.240 there's there's been some real talk that me and him 1:19:50.280 --> 1:19:54.439 had that I might have not liked, Like, you know, yo, 1:19:54.680 --> 1:19:55.639 you gotta die your bed. 1:19:57.520 --> 1:19:58.519 He told you that we want to. 1:19:59.040 --> 1:20:04.680 You gotta be wanted to. You gotta die your big 1:20:04.880 --> 1:20:06.760 You don't die. Your kids are gonna think you too 1:20:06.840 --> 1:20:21.160 old ship you would be. So it's those conversations just 1:20:22.000 --> 1:20:25.200 you know, I was doing the mix show, coordinating jobs 1:20:25.200 --> 1:20:28.880 at the station, doing the music meetings, and then I 1:20:29.040 --> 1:20:32.200 noticed that he would show up and support and then 1:20:32.280 --> 1:20:34.160 he would bitch about the music. And I'm like, yo, 1:20:34.479 --> 1:20:38.439 all the DJs voted on these songs. If you get 1:20:38.479 --> 1:20:41.120 the emails, you invited to all the meetings, like everybody 1:20:41.200 --> 1:20:45.720 else's be vocal, let's talk, let's build. But he never 1:20:45.800 --> 1:20:47.360 wanted to do it. And I don't know if it's 1:20:47.400 --> 1:20:51.400 because he didn't like me at the home, running the 1:20:52.560 --> 1:20:56.519 conference room or whatever it was. But I can't tell 1:20:56.560 --> 1:20:59.680 you where it just ultimately cracked for him where he 1:20:59.840 --> 1:21:02.800 was like because in his mind, he says, I gave up, 1:21:04.360 --> 1:21:08.000 you know, by letting him win, by letting chous Key win, 1:21:08.160 --> 1:21:11.040 staking number one, sting number two, by letting them win. 1:21:11.600 --> 1:21:16.040 But that was never my motto. Remember what I see asked, 1:21:16.680 --> 1:21:20.240 how could you let those guys do? Aren't you afraid 1:21:20.280 --> 1:21:23.080 of losing? I said no, because if they deserve it, 1:21:23.840 --> 1:21:26.400 then they should get it. That's just the way it is, bro, 1:21:26.880 --> 1:21:30.400 and he deserves it. Not my slide, but he deserves 1:21:30.439 --> 1:21:31.000 a big shot. 1:21:32.240 --> 1:21:34.360 Plus, you guys are a collective, so you're all winning. 1:21:34.479 --> 1:21:37.560 Yeah, we all win, we all hold each other. And 1:21:37.560 --> 1:21:40.240 that's how I always looked at it. That's the difference 1:21:40.280 --> 1:21:45.080 between me and him. That's it I saw it is. 1:21:46.080 --> 1:21:49.640 I'm not a gangster, I'm not a tough guy, but 1:21:49.800 --> 1:21:53.720 his talk ship game is imprepeccable. He's been doing it 1:21:53.800 --> 1:21:55.639 for years the same. 1:21:55.600 --> 1:22:14.920 Dude, it's breaking, you gotta take it's good. So now, 1:22:14.960 --> 1:22:18.160 because I just to be honest with you, I'm a 1:22:18.240 --> 1:22:23.040 New Yorker. We clear we get it from New Yorker, 1:22:23.400 --> 1:22:27.240 And to me, I've never thought I'll see this moment 1:22:27.560 --> 1:22:31.800 like period like because I felt like I always knew 1:22:31.800 --> 1:22:33.439 it's a little bit of turmoil, but I felt like 1:22:33.640 --> 1:22:37.160 everyone covered it up very well. For years, so I 1:22:37.240 --> 1:22:39.720 thought it was just never like you know, this would 1:22:39.720 --> 1:22:40.559 never like transport. 1:22:40.640 --> 1:22:42.759 You're trying to say, it's sad to see that happened 1:22:42.800 --> 1:22:44.160 the way it is going down, That's what I'm. 1:22:44.040 --> 1:22:46.519 Trying to say. Making sure it's say funk. 1:22:46.360 --> 1:22:48.360 Out of it too, because at this day and age, 1:22:48.520 --> 1:22:49.360 we've done so much. 1:22:49.840 --> 1:22:50.519 We're not young. 1:22:51.280 --> 1:22:53.519 This is where we are in our career. We've been 1:22:53.880 --> 1:22:57.320 you know, winning, We've been winning together collective. You know, 1:22:57.400 --> 1:22:59.479 whether you're there here, we're winning. And it comes to 1:22:59.600 --> 1:23:01.920 this ship, what are we doing out here? 1:23:03.400 --> 1:23:03.600 I do? 1:23:05.320 --> 1:23:07.200 What are we doing out here? You know what I'm saying. 1:23:08.320 --> 1:23:08.600 That's it? 1:23:09.240 --> 1:23:09.400 You know? 1:23:09.640 --> 1:23:11.719 And and and you feel about the love and support 1:23:11.760 --> 1:23:13.439 that New York was giving you. Make sure you're speaking 1:23:13.479 --> 1:23:18.400 in the buddy love and support coming from New York? 1:23:19.040 --> 1:23:21.400 Like do you feel like everybody has your back? Still? 1:23:21.479 --> 1:23:25.280 And my man, that's the most overwhelming part. I was 1:23:25.320 --> 1:23:27.400 gonna say that him. I'm in the crib chilling now 1:23:27.520 --> 1:23:31.519 since I got to let go. I just I can 1:23:31.600 --> 1:23:35.439 imagine fire you who I haven't spoken because I'm outside 1:23:35.479 --> 1:23:38.120 to thirty years everybody, I got your back. 1:23:38.200 --> 1:23:42.960 Of course, he's the difference. The streets love us organically. 1:23:43.880 --> 1:23:47.120 I can't speak about the other side. The streets fuck 1:23:47.200 --> 1:23:48.080 with USO. 1:23:48.160 --> 1:23:49.559 I'm gonna tell you a funny story. I just told 1:23:49.640 --> 1:23:54.320 him today because they were assuming he sneak number one. 1:23:55.160 --> 1:23:56.760 I have gooms getting ready to go see Hi at 1:23:56.760 --> 1:24:01.439 the next party. Not These are my friends I grew 1:24:01.520 --> 1:24:04.000 up with and they were just trying to, you know, 1:24:04.240 --> 1:24:08.320 hold me down. Of course we're gonna come see him. 1:24:08.800 --> 1:24:12.960 And I'm like, no, no, relaxed, that's my brother, right, 1:24:13.400 --> 1:24:14.639 So you gotta be careful what we say. 1:24:14.760 --> 1:24:14.880 Man. 1:24:14.880 --> 1:24:16.920 They say that when how who should? Is when you 1:24:17.040 --> 1:24:17.719 change the narrative? 1:24:17.760 --> 1:24:20.200 And what if they do? Yeah? Man, how people think 1:24:20.479 --> 1:24:21.720 and the streets look at oh Shire? 1:24:21.840 --> 1:24:22.160 What what? 1:24:22.560 --> 1:24:22.680 How? 1:24:22.800 --> 1:24:27.160 Quick? Because people because people don't understand the intricates in 1:24:27.280 --> 1:24:28.280 this out of business. 1:24:28.880 --> 1:24:30.559 The all they hear is what they hear, and they 1:24:30.600 --> 1:24:32.800 think it's really right. We live in the generation you 1:24:32.840 --> 1:24:34.479 see the clip and that you believe it right away. 1:24:34.560 --> 1:24:36.960 But let me ask you, because after you DJ didn't 1:24:37.000 --> 1:24:37.760 flex come right. 1:24:37.680 --> 1:24:39.759 On after you you started yesterday? 1:24:39.920 --> 1:24:43.680 Okay, because y'all y'all in the same building yesterday, Yeah, 1:24:43.720 --> 1:24:44.320 saw each other. 1:24:45.240 --> 1:24:46.400 No, So. 1:24:48.000 --> 1:24:48.560 What you know? 1:24:50.800 --> 1:24:54.439 Our radio station is going through an amazing, crazy transition. 1:24:54.880 --> 1:24:58.000 The studios are really shitty, and I go live from 1:24:58.120 --> 1:25:02.360 my studio okay, which is nice, clean sounds even better. 1:25:02.439 --> 1:25:09.720 I think you ain't clean sounds going through. For the 1:25:09.760 --> 1:25:11.240 past five years, I've been going live in. 1:25:11.320 --> 1:25:15.280 My studio and with Nessa, and we've been killing it 1:25:15.640 --> 1:25:18.760 for y'all doing remote. Yeah, she goes in, she does 1:25:18.800 --> 1:25:19.320 her thing. I do. 1:25:19.520 --> 1:25:22.240 I'll go live every day for the studio flawlessly. 1:25:22.479 --> 1:25:25.839 You would never know because invested in the studio. 1:25:26.439 --> 1:25:29.040 So he was saying, yeah, they have it. They haven't. 1:25:29.080 --> 1:25:31.840 They've been saying the past two years there's new studios coming. 1:25:32.760 --> 1:25:35.240 They haven't even they haven't even put a nail on 1:25:35.280 --> 1:25:35.599 the wall. 1:25:36.360 --> 1:25:38.160 Trying to get out of jobs. 1:25:38.439 --> 1:25:40.800 I think the whole country is eventually. I think that's 1:25:40.840 --> 1:25:43.040 where you know, you broke everybody. 1:25:43.800 --> 1:25:47.639 Fun company that brought us right before COVID. That means 1:25:48.160 --> 1:25:50.600 they don't care who made money. Say again, hold up, 1:25:50.840 --> 1:25:51.639 that means they don't. 1:25:51.439 --> 1:25:52.360 Care who made money. 1:25:52.479 --> 1:25:55.240 Bro the hedge fund does not care, but who made money? 1:25:55.560 --> 1:25:59.599 Like literally, the VC, you spend seven hundred mili whatever 1:25:59.600 --> 1:26:01.479 the hell of horse and you don't get no money 1:26:01.520 --> 1:26:04.759 back on return. We don't even have a sales department. 1:26:05.800 --> 1:26:07.120 And let's teot it. You don't have a PD. 1:26:08.760 --> 1:26:13.240 There's a there's a consultant. It's been it's been fourteen months. 1:26:13.280 --> 1:26:14.160 We haven't had a PD. 1:26:15.000 --> 1:26:18.040 We just got a consultant, like to consultant as the 1:26:18.080 --> 1:26:22.560 PD consultant. And mind you, he's a good guy. I 1:26:22.680 --> 1:26:24.719 like him, a great guy. I'm gonna keep it a buck. 1:26:26.200 --> 1:26:29.640 We're so professional that you can never tell to this 1:26:29.840 --> 1:26:33.719 day because we're still running the show like it's supposed 1:26:33.720 --> 1:26:33.800 to be. 1:26:34.200 --> 1:26:36.400 Nobody got taking away from anybody. 1:26:36.920 --> 1:26:41.120 Morning Show is doing the thing afternoon's news, and we're 1:26:41.160 --> 1:26:41.640 doing our thing. 1:26:41.720 --> 1:26:43.160 The numbers speak for itself. 1:26:43.840 --> 1:26:47.120 In fact, the guy at seven o'clock is doing his 1:26:47.320 --> 1:26:49.160 thing respectfully, and. 1:26:49.280 --> 1:26:53.680 We still at five o'clock. Now, oh you are five, No, 1:26:53.720 --> 1:26:54.639 I'm on four to five. 1:26:55.080 --> 1:26:58.080 Four other guys at five, okay, sneaking number ones at 1:26:58.120 --> 1:27:01.640 four all right to the snake is bro But but 1:27:01.800 --> 1:27:05.000 you know, respect we're so professional as a as a 1:27:05.080 --> 1:27:07.560 building that we're still holding the fourth down without a 1:27:07.640 --> 1:27:10.519 p D, without a proper still deployment. What I would 1:27:10.520 --> 1:27:12.519 ever and because you know why, because we work hard, 1:27:12.560 --> 1:27:14.599 and we love the brand, and we love the culture 1:27:14.720 --> 1:27:16.800 and we still want to break records. We still want 1:27:16.840 --> 1:27:19.640 to grab that new kind of like back in the 1:27:19.760 --> 1:27:22.320 days and blowing the funk up. We still we still 1:27:22.400 --> 1:27:22.960 love what we do. 1:27:23.080 --> 1:27:25.599 Do you guys feel that terrestrial radio still has the power? 1:27:25.640 --> 1:27:25.800 Though? 1:27:27.240 --> 1:27:29.519 I believe, I believe this week show proved it. 1:27:30.840 --> 1:27:36.640 I'm sorry y'all if I believe this week it's not 1:27:36.800 --> 1:27:37.200 the same. 1:27:37.520 --> 1:27:40.519 Of course since when super Dog was coming up, of course, 1:27:40.600 --> 1:27:42.639 not that was that was that was the only channel. 1:27:43.479 --> 1:27:47.080 Yeah, it's still a big thing. People don't understand that 1:27:47.160 --> 1:27:50.040 it is. It's a big thing. It's not especially you 1:27:50.160 --> 1:27:50.840 started to cut you off. 1:27:50.880 --> 1:27:51.880 But this week it proved it. 1:27:52.040 --> 1:27:54.120 Everyone was tuned in the hot and. 1:27:54.200 --> 1:27:55.680 Y'all speaking about hot like that. 1:27:55.840 --> 1:27:57.320 That's that's what was kind of dope. 1:27:57.120 --> 1:28:00.400 Like it actually showed the power of that should not 1:28:00.479 --> 1:28:01.479 be the reason why they're tuned. 1:28:01.560 --> 1:28:07.519 I mean, who cares get what he's saying? Reality, Like, 1:28:07.560 --> 1:28:09.559 come on, we can't go down that. 1:28:11.240 --> 1:28:13.040 If it was fake, if it was fake, we could 1:28:13.040 --> 1:28:14.960 say it's real, this is not this is not fake, this. 1:28:15.040 --> 1:28:15.559 Is all real. 1:28:15.880 --> 1:28:17.559 The reason why I say that is that why couldn't 1:28:17.600 --> 1:28:19.559 you guys, with the power that you guys have as 1:28:19.600 --> 1:28:22.840 a collective. Take this into your own hands, like either 1:28:23.560 --> 1:28:25.600 be able to somehow partner with someone that pulls the 1:28:25.680 --> 1:28:30.120 license to get your own terrestrial or go completely serious 1:28:30.160 --> 1:28:30.920 exam channel. 1:28:31.240 --> 1:28:33.719 I think I think it's that's a scary move. Radio, 1:28:34.080 --> 1:28:35.680 like you said, is not what it was so doing 1:28:35.760 --> 1:28:38.160 that movie Left end Radio is not what it was 1:28:38.240 --> 1:28:40.439 so so so we have so many other channels to 1:28:40.479 --> 1:28:45.200 be continued. That's what I'll believed it in the end. 1:28:45.800 --> 1:28:50.120 As hip hop, we need to own more. We need 1:28:50.240 --> 1:28:53.040 to what we built should be owned. But that's been 1:28:53.080 --> 1:28:56.160 the struggle since day one, right or remember. 1:28:55.840 --> 1:28:58.800 That we we do have his jobs too, Like you 1:28:58.840 --> 1:28:59.280 know what I'm saying. 1:28:59.280 --> 1:29:02.160 That's like me personally, Like like I always tell you 1:29:02.400 --> 1:29:05.160 I enjoyed working for Love and Hip Hop because it 1:29:05.360 --> 1:29:07.360 wasn't like I just could show up and I could 1:29:07.439 --> 1:29:09.439 just do what I gotta do and I can just leave, 1:29:09.800 --> 1:29:11.640 you know what I mean, Like as opposed to like 1:29:11.720 --> 1:29:13.840 when you control everything, you have to you have to 1:29:13.920 --> 1:29:15.519 be there before they come, and you have to be 1:29:15.600 --> 1:29:17.320 there after they bounce, you know what I'm saying. 1:29:17.400 --> 1:29:19.040 But you don't have to be the manager always. 1:29:19.080 --> 1:29:20.200 You can hire, you can be old. 1:29:20.200 --> 1:29:23.840 What I'm saying is sometimes I enjoy so like to 1:29:23.920 --> 1:29:26.200 answer your question, but I'll answer your question for y'all, 1:29:26.560 --> 1:29:29.360 Like sometimes it's cool to work for other people like 1:29:29.439 --> 1:29:31.080 that ship is cool because it's just like, yo, let 1:29:31.120 --> 1:29:33.200 me go go through my job and then that's it. 1:29:33.240 --> 1:29:33.760 You know what I'm saying. 1:29:33.800 --> 1:29:36.920 That's how it's just comfortable. Yeah, yeah, the important part, 1:29:37.200 --> 1:29:38.479 you know what, I'm gonna keep it a buck. And 1:29:38.760 --> 1:29:41.760 I never said this before. Okay, I should have been 1:29:41.840 --> 1:29:44.840 left hot on any seven. I stayed there way too long. 1:29:45.720 --> 1:29:49.320 I stayed there past my time. I was too I 1:29:49.479 --> 1:29:53.360 was yet Okay, I think the point I'm trying to 1:29:53.400 --> 1:29:57.400 get at is I got too comfortable because it was 1:29:57.479 --> 1:30:00.479 something I was good at. I enjoyed doing it, like 1:30:00.560 --> 1:30:03.200 you said, and I remember like when I first got 1:30:03.240 --> 1:30:05.880 my first gig, I would have did it for free, bro, 1:30:06.200 --> 1:30:08.560 that's how much I love hip hop. I would have 1:30:08.640 --> 1:30:09.240 did it for free. 1:30:09.880 --> 1:30:11.639 That's been hip hop's problem from the beginning, though. That's 1:30:11.640 --> 1:30:14.879 the problem because we don't treat it as a business. 1:30:15.680 --> 1:30:18.400 We treat it on some emotional ship, on our hearts 1:30:18.439 --> 1:30:19.160 and our slaves. 1:30:20.040 --> 1:30:22.880 And furthermore, it's like we, like you said, we need 1:30:22.960 --> 1:30:25.200 to own it and whoever, even if you work for somebody, 1:30:25.439 --> 1:30:27.200 those people you work for give a. 1:30:27.280 --> 1:30:30.080 Fuck, that's the problem, and care about the culture is 1:30:30.080 --> 1:30:32.640 going to give a fuck, right right, then they're not 1:30:32.720 --> 1:30:35.560 culturally invested in hip hop exactly the culture. 1:30:36.800 --> 1:30:39.000 And yeah and a Hedgephne running and it's not going 1:30:39.080 --> 1:30:40.960 to care. They just care about how we're gonna flip 1:30:41.000 --> 1:30:42.040 this and keep it fucking. 1:30:41.880 --> 1:30:45.519 Moving, right. That's all they're doing is I don't hate them. 1:30:46.000 --> 1:30:49.439 That's that's the goal either way, that's their goal. But 1:30:49.720 --> 1:30:52.839 guess what's going to happen this brand that you're pushing. 1:30:58.360 --> 1:31:01.160 But like I always make Joe of my friend's Sonny 1:31:02.560 --> 1:31:04.600 sometimes I tell him, I tell him like you're a 1:31:04.720 --> 1:31:08.960 company man, right, like he literally won't miss work, Like 1:31:09.000 --> 1:31:11.800 you know what I'm saying, like go work all the time? 1:31:12.000 --> 1:31:15.080 Good for him? Yeah, I make fun of it. I 1:31:15.120 --> 1:31:17.000 make fun of it. Right, And then I heard Hero 1:31:18.880 --> 1:31:20.479 won't miss work with this guy? 1:31:20.680 --> 1:31:21.800 I mean, you know what I'm saying, Like you know 1:31:21.840 --> 1:31:27.880 what I mean, Like man like you, it's a great thing. 1:31:27.960 --> 1:31:31.360 But job, I always I've always been a joke of it. 1:31:32.000 --> 1:31:35.560 Now when I heard about ebro ebral were saying, like 1:31:35.760 --> 1:31:38.360 someone that about flex it is like, yo, you know, 1:31:38.439 --> 1:31:41.920 Flex is going to do exactly what these venture capitalists 1:31:41.920 --> 1:31:44.439 people want them want him to do, like like he's 1:31:44.479 --> 1:31:46.720 going to promote them. He's a company, He's going to 1:31:46.760 --> 1:31:48.519 do that. So basically he's a company. 1:31:48.560 --> 1:31:48.720 Man. 1:31:49.160 --> 1:31:51.920 Is that something that I think you have to fall 1:31:51.960 --> 1:31:54.559 in align with and like follow those types of steps 1:31:55.000 --> 1:31:55.439 or is it? 1:31:55.600 --> 1:31:57.040 Is it something that you feel like, you know what 1:31:57.080 --> 1:31:59.800 I mean, you're going to maintain who you are. 1:32:00.240 --> 1:32:02.960 Listen, it's a business and we don't own it, right, 1:32:03.280 --> 1:32:04.519 And at the end of the day, you gotta win, 1:32:05.160 --> 1:32:07.639 and you gotta follow rules, and you know, if it's 1:32:07.640 --> 1:32:10.040 a right company, yeah, you gotta you know, but you 1:32:10.200 --> 1:32:11.800 at the same time, you gotta know how to be 1:32:11.880 --> 1:32:13.800 working man. You gotta be yourself at the same time 1:32:13.880 --> 1:32:17.160 you normally gotta be Nori. But if you work for somebody, 1:32:17.160 --> 1:32:18.679 you also got to play by their rules. 1:32:18.760 --> 1:32:19.280 And I get it. 1:32:19.439 --> 1:32:22.679 And as a DJ and a radio station hip hop, 1:32:23.200 --> 1:32:25.320 everybody thinks, oh, Camilla, why don't you play this enough? 1:32:25.320 --> 1:32:28.920 Why don't you play this a you can? This is 1:32:29.000 --> 1:32:30.400 a I work for somebody. 1:32:30.840 --> 1:32:33.880 They got rules and instructing. 1:32:33.720 --> 1:32:36.439 So right, it's programming, So you know, you have to 1:32:36.520 --> 1:32:38.800 be able to finagle that, and that's what we're great at. 1:32:38.920 --> 1:32:39.880 We're able to fenagle that. 1:32:40.000 --> 1:32:42.719 And then I could give them thirty percent of Kamiento 1:32:42.760 --> 1:32:45.040 who he really is, and take this risk and play 1:32:45.120 --> 1:32:48.439 this fucking on which they hate. When I do, you know, 1:32:48.560 --> 1:32:50.519 this is what the fuck is popping. I believe them, 1:32:50.920 --> 1:32:53.160 you know what I'm saying, enough, same thing? You know 1:32:53.240 --> 1:32:56.360 how many how many years did you enough push the 1:32:56.479 --> 1:32:57.320 envelope a little bit? 1:32:58.720 --> 1:33:02.519 Every year? Kanye West reached the envelope every year? 1:33:03.200 --> 1:33:05.000 You know, I mean, we could sit here for days. 1:33:05.640 --> 1:33:10.600 I don't know whom. I love thems Corney Brooklyn. I 1:33:10.680 --> 1:33:11.400 love his music. 1:33:12.040 --> 1:33:12.400 I can't. 1:33:12.479 --> 1:33:14.759 I wish I could. I wish I could play that record, 1:33:15.240 --> 1:33:17.880 you know. You know, so I have to Finigga forms. 1:33:17.880 --> 1:33:22.519 This countless acts we play over and over again that 1:33:22.720 --> 1:33:25.960 there's always something. I remember playing Hi my Name Is 1:33:26.479 --> 1:33:29.680 by Eminem and the PD came from all the way 1:33:29.680 --> 1:33:31.920 in the back, was like, how the fuck are you playing? 1:33:32.840 --> 1:33:35.360 Rock and roll? Is just hip hops? I mean, this 1:33:35.479 --> 1:33:37.519 kid's on fire. He's going to be the next one, 1:33:37.600 --> 1:33:38.240 I promise you. 1:33:38.680 --> 1:33:40.880 You know, one time that ship, one time I was 1:33:41.080 --> 1:33:45.040 I was feeling it for enough when this is morning show. 1:33:45.880 --> 1:33:47.040 I feeled them and I'm sorry. 1:33:47.120 --> 1:33:50.000 I'm sorry this you know this morning show, Morning show 1:33:50.280 --> 1:33:54.800 stonebunk Wold, right. He put me to fill in. I 1:33:54.880 --> 1:33:58.120 did a few times. One time I played React by 1:33:58.240 --> 1:33:58.799 Eric Sermon. 1:34:01.840 --> 1:34:07.200 That's a record the ice Cream King ice Cream. We 1:34:07.280 --> 1:34:11.400 used to call it tricksy, Yo, what are you doing? No? No, 1:34:11.520 --> 1:34:11.680 no no. 1:34:12.240 --> 1:34:15.000 If you don't play to them, cut your poo, go 1:34:15.080 --> 1:34:17.360 back to the program, like whoa you know this is 1:34:17.600 --> 1:34:18.120 this is the thing. 1:34:18.040 --> 1:34:18.800 That happened in radio. 1:34:18.800 --> 1:34:21.439 And I understand back then, I get it. I just 1:34:21.680 --> 1:34:23.960 mixtape kid on the radio, like you know, trying to 1:34:24.000 --> 1:34:26.320 play that fire. But this is part of the game. 1:34:26.360 --> 1:34:27.439 I understand now what it. 1:34:27.520 --> 1:34:30.000 Is Morning is. It's supposed to be a broader audience. 1:34:30.680 --> 1:34:33.000 They hit Morning is way more strict. Like Enough said, 1:34:33.080 --> 1:34:34.160 none of us would trained for this. 1:34:35.360 --> 1:34:37.760 You know, we let we learned by trial and error, 1:34:38.520 --> 1:34:40.519 and this is what makes us great now because now 1:34:40.600 --> 1:34:44.080 we know how to play both sides. You know, you know, 1:34:44.240 --> 1:34:45.920 of course I want to enough wants to be enough, 1:34:45.920 --> 1:34:47.639 one hundred percent. Comeing Al wants to be one hundred percent. 1:34:47.680 --> 1:34:49.639 But when you're on that radio, you can't be yourself 1:34:49.640 --> 1:34:50.240 one hundred percent. 1:34:50.280 --> 1:34:50.840 You got to play. 1:34:51.280 --> 1:34:52.960 You gotta behind ID seven hundred percent cool. 1:34:53.160 --> 1:34:54.560 That's a trick. You just got to know how to 1:34:54.640 --> 1:34:56.720 do it, man, And it sucks, but it is what 1:34:56.840 --> 1:34:57.080 it is. 1:34:58.120 --> 1:35:02.240 But there might be an opportunity, now there's always not forced, Yeah, 1:35:02.680 --> 1:35:05.439 to make an opportunity to be one hundred percent of safe? 1:35:06.240 --> 1:35:06.360 Was it? 1:35:06.560 --> 1:35:07.960 Was it hard working with Star on book? 1:35:08.680 --> 1:35:13.160 Yeah? Yeah, legend. 1:35:13.760 --> 1:35:16.680 Star didn't give up the fuck and that was the 1:35:16.760 --> 1:35:20.200 beauty and that was the beauty and that's why he 1:35:20.240 --> 1:35:24.240 went because he was himself one hundred percent. He wasn't playing. 1:35:24.520 --> 1:35:29.320 So how did you wind up on a star? Because 1:35:29.360 --> 1:35:33.800 I was doing mornings first with Ed Lover and and 1:35:34.160 --> 1:35:36.719 I forgot the girl's named Maya something, the white girl, 1:35:37.560 --> 1:35:40.840 and then later on it was fat Man School Jones 1:35:40.960 --> 1:35:46.320 is the piece and kerk Flir. So they kept me 1:35:46.360 --> 1:35:47.559 in the morning because I was good. 1:35:48.640 --> 1:35:51.160 And and so you had you heard a starbuck while 1:35:51.200 --> 1:35:51.960 at that time, Oh. 1:35:51.920 --> 1:35:57.679 No, Star, you used to work at Virgin Records, Virgin 1:35:58.280 --> 1:36:00.679 the Record, okay, And I used to be an intern 1:36:00.720 --> 1:36:02.599 for Virgin back in the days. Okay, So I knew 1:36:02.680 --> 1:36:06.599 him from from from back then, okay, But I knew 1:36:06.640 --> 1:36:09.080 his real name wasn't he didn't go by start Okay, 1:36:09.720 --> 1:36:14.400 that's it, and then the game seven and she got 1:36:14.479 --> 1:36:18.080 let he got lit. He was trying to control what 1:36:18.160 --> 1:36:23.639 I played okay, yeah, not the station okay, for himself 1:36:24.160 --> 1:36:26.880 in what ways? What was it like? I used to 1:36:26.880 --> 1:36:29.040 play this bro, and I'm like, but he was wild 1:36:29.080 --> 1:36:31.720 because sometime he would just ask for like Nirvana, yeah 1:36:31.760 --> 1:36:32.280 really yeah? 1:36:32.720 --> 1:36:34.080 So he was eclectic of this ship. 1:36:35.120 --> 1:36:37.960 There was another group, his favorite group, rock and roll 1:36:38.040 --> 1:36:41.800 group Ship not Cold Play, with some other ship like 1:36:41.960 --> 1:36:45.240 Presto Rush. He used to be like, do we not 1:36:45.360 --> 1:36:47.960 play the Rush ship? Yea, this straight rock and roll 1:36:48.000 --> 1:36:54.519 bro like you, I don't want to hear that book 1:36:54.560 --> 1:36:58.240 of jig music. I'd be like what, and that's how 1:36:58.280 --> 1:37:01.400 you talk to us? So I got frustrated. One day, 1:37:01.920 --> 1:37:04.000 I took my little book back for my stuff away 1:37:04.080 --> 1:37:06.360 and I left. I boogied my ass off the station. 1:37:07.040 --> 1:37:11.439 I said, fuck, did I quit? And then the boss 1:37:11.560 --> 1:37:15.200 came what is enough? He just quits? And like what? 1:37:16.400 --> 1:37:18.200 She ran down the block and she chased me for 1:37:18.320 --> 1:37:21.479 like a block and a half. That's when I knew 1:37:21.520 --> 1:37:25.160 I was important. For the first time. I was like, 1:37:25.840 --> 1:37:28.400 she didn't give a fuck. She was just left me right, 1:37:28.640 --> 1:37:30.920 but she chased me and she was like, no, you 1:37:30.960 --> 1:37:34.040 gotta come back. You one of my best DJs. So 1:37:34.120 --> 1:37:36.559 I was like, oh shit, that was the first time 1:37:36.560 --> 1:37:38.400 I knew I had a little bit of power, a 1:37:38.439 --> 1:37:47.439 little bit. Oh good. Yeah, I just texted, uh. She 1:37:47.600 --> 1:37:49.120 just texted me the other day and I just told her, 1:37:49.479 --> 1:37:51.200 thank you for everything you changed my life. You have 1:37:51.320 --> 1:37:53.439 no idea how much you changed my life. 1:37:53.680 --> 1:37:56.960 All right, So I'm bounce abound a little bit. So 1:37:57.080 --> 1:37:59.800 how did you get the call that like you're being 1:38:00.160 --> 1:38:01.320 go this time? 1:38:02.400 --> 1:38:05.960 Somebody called me and said, hey, can we meet And 1:38:06.080 --> 1:38:07.680 I was like, yeah, sure, I said, give meet me 1:38:07.720 --> 1:38:09.519 at the studio. He was like, no, I need to 1:38:09.560 --> 1:38:12.960 come by the offices. I said, alright, cool studio offices 1:38:12.960 --> 1:38:15.519 two different places down the block from each other, but 1:38:15.640 --> 1:38:19.840 to different places. So I said, I said, what time's cool? 1:38:19.920 --> 1:38:21.760 Around eleven? I said, now you know, let's do that 1:38:21.880 --> 1:38:24.439 one and I go for my shift. No, no, no, 1:38:24.840 --> 1:38:30.479 I'm lying, I said. I beat the bottom eleven, handing 1:38:30.520 --> 1:38:34.800 me a piece of paper and I said, yo, like 1:38:34.880 --> 1:38:39.000 a termination letter. Yeah, yo, thank you for your services. 1:38:39.160 --> 1:38:41.040 This is hard for me. Blah blah blah, blah blah. 1:38:43.880 --> 1:38:45.800 Were the person is saying that or the letter saying that. 1:38:46.800 --> 1:38:48.560 I mean, the person is saying anything like that, but 1:38:48.560 --> 1:38:50.639 I don't want to put that person on blast. Okay cool? 1:38:52.080 --> 1:38:56.280 And then I was worried that's it. And then he goes, 1:38:56.560 --> 1:38:59.320 that's it. You know, we're going to start something new, 1:38:59.400 --> 1:39:02.160 so on Tuesday day, you know, and you're just not 1:39:02.280 --> 1:39:03.280 gonna be part of the lineup. 1:39:03.720 --> 1:39:03.920 Wow. 1:39:04.240 --> 1:39:10.160 So I was like, all right, that's it. Peace. When's 1:39:10.200 --> 1:39:13.439 my last day tomorrow? All right? Cool? Damn that quick. 1:39:14.000 --> 1:39:17.760 So then I was gonna DJ from home like we 1:39:17.920 --> 1:39:22.280 have been remote, all right, But then this animal and 1:39:22.360 --> 1:39:24.240 one of my other DJs is like, now we're gonna 1:39:24.280 --> 1:39:24.800 celebrate you. 1:39:24.920 --> 1:39:25.000 Bro. 1:39:26.200 --> 1:39:29.519 I just you know, respectfully, you better seven years, you 1:39:29.600 --> 1:39:32.519 better come to work. We're gonna we're gonna film this. 1:39:32.600 --> 1:39:35.160 We're gonna show the world that you know, we're gonna 1:39:35.160 --> 1:39:37.240 salute you. So we. 1:39:39.800 --> 1:39:42.040 Got we got, we got the yallows the yallos. 1:39:42.920 --> 1:39:45.479 Okay, one of the get the one. 1:39:46.000 --> 1:39:47.479 Let's give him the one y'allo hold on, hold on 1:39:47.880 --> 1:39:48.120 like a. 1:39:49.600 --> 1:39:53.200 Yeah, you heard us say right now you need nervous. 1:39:55.120 --> 1:39:58.920 Jake said that we gotta salute the point. 1:39:59.200 --> 1:40:01.880 So look, we want to your flowers because I wish 1:40:01.960 --> 1:40:07.800 I was there in there, like. 1:40:10.120 --> 1:40:14.000 I love that, yes, but ah get no. So you 1:40:14.120 --> 1:40:15.800 know that's when I got on the horn. I got 1:40:15.880 --> 1:40:16.920 to work. I said, Yo. 1:40:17.439 --> 1:40:20.600 I called everybody, well not everybody, but at least you know, 1:40:20.640 --> 1:40:23.080 it was so last minute, you know, I just started 1:40:23.160 --> 1:40:26.920 fakking phone calls, every DJ, every you know, everybody, and said, 1:40:26.960 --> 1:40:29.920 listen tomorrowing on the last show, we're all pulling up, 1:40:30.400 --> 1:40:32.479 salute him and give him his flowers. He put his 1:40:32.960 --> 1:40:37.240 sweat into his place, you know, respectfully in his heart. 1:40:37.320 --> 1:40:39.160 He has had anety seven because this is what he 1:40:39.280 --> 1:40:43.439 did for twenty seven thirty years. So you know, fad Joe, 1:40:44.960 --> 1:40:50.439 fad Joe said what's address? He didn't hesitate, he didn't 1:40:50.439 --> 1:40:53.080 say what what's address? You know, And from there it 1:40:53.080 --> 1:40:56.439 was just ripple. You know, Calig pulled up, Jim Jones 1:40:56.479 --> 1:40:58.639 called me for It was just a celebration. 1:40:58.720 --> 1:41:02.080 It was beautiful. A guy was crying on the radio, 1:41:02.120 --> 1:41:06.719 which is a beautiful thing. Did you see a video? Yeah, 1:41:07.160 --> 1:41:09.800 did you see that? What I said? Because I started. 1:41:11.200 --> 1:41:26.479 Finished all right to the hard from TV. Baby that 1:41:26.600 --> 1:41:27.840 a way to sign on that aman. 1:41:27.920 --> 1:41:30.200 Kids used to have people in a friends, you don't disrespect, y'o. 1:41:31.040 --> 1:41:34.040 I remember doing there's a club in New York called uh, 1:41:34.680 --> 1:41:38.320 it was called Club Carbon that was now was that 1:41:38.439 --> 1:41:41.160 It's called Terminal five, but it was exiting. It was 1:41:41.240 --> 1:41:44.439 black and I remember, I remember in ninety eight there 1:41:44.520 --> 1:41:47.680 was a girl from DC named Steph Lover. Yeah, and 1:41:47.760 --> 1:41:50.439 Steph Lover used to work with me, Yes and if 1:41:51.640 --> 1:41:54.280 and I brought it to the club and I threw 1:41:54.360 --> 1:41:57.679 on Van from TV and it was the ultimate razor 1:41:57.720 --> 1:41:58.280 blade fight. 1:42:00.320 --> 1:42:00.439 Yo. 1:42:00.520 --> 1:42:03.840 When I tell you she came from DC and she 1:42:04.000 --> 1:42:06.679 was like you, I thought DC was the murder capital. 1:42:06.720 --> 1:42:10.360 But you'll be on some other ship, YO. Next we'll 1:42:10.400 --> 1:42:24.639 getting sliced goushous open. That's what Nori did to the streets. 1:42:25.680 --> 1:42:31.040 He had people going crazy. But so let's describe that year. 1:42:32.280 --> 1:42:33.800 This is the first year you get on radio. 1:42:34.120 --> 1:42:34.240 Right. 1:42:36.240 --> 1:42:44.120 For me, I have two legacies that I picked. 1:42:44.200 --> 1:42:46.559 What is it called the ten year decade? 1:42:46.600 --> 1:42:46.960 What is it. 1:42:49.400 --> 1:42:49.960 That I picked? 1:42:50.040 --> 1:42:52.000 Right, it's the one that I'm not in and the 1:42:52.080 --> 1:42:54.240 one that I'm in and the one that I'm in. 1:42:55.040 --> 1:42:59.160 It starts from ninety seven. It's like two thousand and seven. 1:42:59.240 --> 1:42:59.799 That decade. 1:43:00.040 --> 1:43:03.640 What nineteen ninety eight to me is one of the 1:43:03.760 --> 1:43:07.240 best years of music. So I need to hear you 1:43:07.400 --> 1:43:13.639 from a DJ perspective. This is so when did you start? 1:43:14.200 --> 1:43:16.160 What year did you start on that radio in nineteen 1:43:16.200 --> 1:43:16.559 ninety eight? 1:43:17.280 --> 1:43:20.280 What month? I mean, well, oh god, damn it. 1:43:20.880 --> 1:43:23.160 Everything is out, so everything DMX don't. 1:43:23.040 --> 1:43:26.160 Drop every day, drop everything, drop everything. 1:43:26.320 --> 1:43:30.240 So describe us that first day, and then how how 1:43:30.280 --> 1:43:33.000 do you choose your selection? Because everything is hot, and 1:43:33.160 --> 1:43:36.920 especially in New York, we don't find I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 1:43:41.320 --> 1:43:44.040 Yeah, I already radio. I al't been on radio, okay, 1:43:44.200 --> 1:43:47.679 just I remember one of my historic moments was playing 1:43:47.760 --> 1:43:53.360 why Storm the remix with Little Kim and Ted Lover 1:43:53.680 --> 1:43:58.240 is in the booth? Uh and you know you did? 1:43:58.280 --> 1:43:59.880 That's how it was. All of these is like that 1:44:00.320 --> 1:44:02.320 Hed boops on one section, that their stree is another. 1:44:03.240 --> 1:44:06.840 So I'm going hot, damn hole, here she goes again. 1:44:07.160 --> 1:44:07.519 Life is it? 1:44:07.680 --> 1:44:07.800 You know? 1:44:08.040 --> 1:44:10.960 And on one side is the dirty, on the other 1:44:11.040 --> 1:44:13.760 side is the clean. But because my headphones are a 1:44:13.840 --> 1:44:18.439 certain way, I'm only hearing the clean side. So ed 1:44:18.520 --> 1:44:21.920 lovers like, yo, what the are you doing? And I'm 1:44:21.920 --> 1:44:27.280 still bringing it back. I'm like, yeah, I'm nice, right, Yo, 1:44:27.840 --> 1:44:30.840 I'm a brand new DJ on this radio station and 1:44:30.960 --> 1:44:33.600 I'm going hot. Damn hole. Here she goes again, you know, 1:44:34.240 --> 1:44:38.200 bitch whatever that ship, I keep rewinding it back and forth, 1:44:38.720 --> 1:44:41.439 back and forth. It was a crazy year for me. 1:44:43.560 --> 1:44:50.400 Pun died, right, that's the piece. It's crazy because you 1:44:50.479 --> 1:44:54.800 know I learned this from msiss c Right. There's a 1:44:54.880 --> 1:44:58.360 thing we do, those tribute you know, mixes when somebody 1:44:58.439 --> 1:45:02.240 passes away. But the crazy part is that. But you 1:45:02.280 --> 1:45:06.240 guys don't understand, like, these are guys. We went to 1:45:06.360 --> 1:45:08.600 war with them in the clubs, we went on the 1:45:08.720 --> 1:45:11.160 road with them. We did a lot of things for them. 1:45:11.320 --> 1:45:18.479 But my uncle died. I didn't cry. But when Pun died, Yo, 1:45:18.680 --> 1:45:21.720 I was DJ in the booth and you thought I 1:45:21.800 --> 1:45:23.920 cried on that video when I was my last day. No, 1:45:24.400 --> 1:45:28.400 I broke down on my knees, like this is crazy 1:45:29.320 --> 1:45:30.920 because to me is one of the greatest rappers to 1:45:30.920 --> 1:45:31.360 ever do it. 1:45:32.520 --> 1:45:34.400 I like I said, greatest rappers ever do it, not 1:45:34.520 --> 1:45:35.880 greatest Puerto Rican rapper ever. 1:45:36.520 --> 1:45:36.920 I like that. 1:45:43.320 --> 1:45:51.240 Talking to love. I loved it. Warning and you know 1:45:51.320 --> 1:45:53.040 that was a big deal. Ninety eight was everything. 1:45:53.400 --> 1:45:58.800 Yeah, Yeah, I was as one of the best years 1:45:58.840 --> 1:46:02.439 of my life. Yo. Uh being able to like to 1:46:02.640 --> 1:46:05.200 like come out with upon DMX. 1:46:05.240 --> 1:46:08.080 Yeah Cameron, Uh. 1:46:09.680 --> 1:46:14.960 Corrupt capa Donna. That was a cannabis cannabis like that 1:46:15.040 --> 1:46:16.240 ship was like the best year. 1:46:16.160 --> 1:46:18.320 Of my life. Yeah. It was a great year for 1:46:18.439 --> 1:46:21.280 hip hop, man, you know. And so the chaka let 1:46:21.320 --> 1:46:26.040 me show the chaka. Yeah yeah, well what was you saying? No? 1:46:26.200 --> 1:46:30.400 And you know, at that time was the staple. There 1:46:30.479 --> 1:46:32.960 was the goal to hands down, I mean it d 1:46:33.040 --> 1:46:33.760 it led it. 1:46:33.880 --> 1:46:36.479 Let like you go in front of Hot ninety seven 1:46:36.560 --> 1:46:39.920 and see anybody, like anybody would be in front of 1:46:39.960 --> 1:46:42.240 Hot ninety seven because they knew that that was like 1:46:42.320 --> 1:46:45.120 the mecca, like and anywhere they moved to the people 1:46:45.120 --> 1:46:45.600 who caught on. 1:46:45.760 --> 1:46:47.400 It didn't matter like like like that. 1:46:48.360 --> 1:46:50.080 I wasn't on radio back then. I was just looking 1:46:50.120 --> 1:46:52.040 at like a fan always like all right. 1:46:52.720 --> 1:46:55.200 You know it was Hot ninety seven and the Source magazine. 1:46:55.320 --> 1:46:57.479 Those were the two things that led hip hop at 1:46:57.520 --> 1:46:59.360 one point. You know what I'm saying, Like that was 1:46:59.439 --> 1:47:00.759 what led Yeah. 1:47:00.600 --> 1:47:02.760 And what year you got on Hot seven? I got 1:47:02.800 --> 1:47:05.200 on one one oh one. 1:47:05.280 --> 1:47:07.400 I started with that little little show I say it 1:47:07.880 --> 1:47:13.400 put they created no, no, okay, this is called Saturdays. 1:47:13.600 --> 1:47:16.040 After the midnight run, they created a show which was 1:47:16.680 --> 1:47:20.640 rest in Peace, case Sleigh Envy, Green Lantern, We'll take 1:47:20.680 --> 1:47:22.559 it to the streets, take it to the streets myself 1:47:22.600 --> 1:47:25.360 in threat. I believe that was the five and were 1:47:25.439 --> 1:47:27.719 rote every Saturday. So I was really on once a month. Okay, 1:47:27.960 --> 1:47:30.000 the best time ever because I got four hours to 1:47:30.040 --> 1:47:31.000 do what with the funk? 1:47:31.080 --> 1:47:35.880 I wanted literally on vinyl? What I wanted. I was Camillo. 1:47:36.960 --> 1:47:38.599 I was in with Camelo. 1:47:38.640 --> 1:47:41.000 No, I was Camelot Hot back then. There was no 1:47:41.080 --> 1:47:41.960 competition back then. 1:47:42.960 --> 1:47:46.200 That's that's that's a big difference. It's a big difference. Again. 1:47:47.240 --> 1:47:49.840 Back then that was my boot camp and it was 1:47:49.880 --> 1:47:51.560 the best time ever. One like for me. 1:47:51.840 --> 1:47:53.439 I would beat my boys up, they would pick up 1:47:53.479 --> 1:47:57.120 the phones. It was a fucking amazing time. Man, wild times, 1:47:57.640 --> 1:47:58.240 wild times. 1:47:58.439 --> 1:48:00.559 Facts. Yeah. 1:48:02.680 --> 1:48:08.479 I just wanted to ask this to you, Camilla right now, 1:48:10.880 --> 1:48:20.679 New York City. Are you the hottest club DJ. 1:48:23.520 --> 1:48:23.880 Over here? 1:48:24.080 --> 1:48:26.680 Listen, listen, I'm gonna keep it a buck. You know, 1:48:26.840 --> 1:48:30.599 I've been doing this man long, and am I the hottest? 1:48:30.960 --> 1:48:33.679 I consider myself the hottest, absolutely, one thousand percent. 1:48:37.479 --> 1:48:39.160 Cam yeah. 1:48:39.160 --> 1:48:40.720 I mean, yeah, I could do it all day. You 1:48:40.720 --> 1:48:42.559 can go to the Grand DJ commdal this all day 1:48:42.680 --> 1:48:46.040 my rundown. I'm busy or I've been doing this fort tired. Man, 1:48:46.040 --> 1:48:47.400 I don't get tired. You know, I don't get tired. 1:48:47.439 --> 1:48:49.720 I love this ship, your wild bro yoh bro. 1:48:50.080 --> 1:48:52.679 I love this ship to Miami. I love to play 1:48:52.720 --> 1:48:55.360 at Booby Trapping. I loved you know, Miami's changed a lot. 1:48:55.560 --> 1:48:57.120 Miami has changed a lot, a lot. 1:48:57.479 --> 1:49:00.560 I used to love when Wood, when Wild Wind was 1:49:02.000 --> 1:49:04.240 like I said, like I said, man has changed a lot. 1:49:04.479 --> 1:49:06.960 Wind would for a time was on fire, but I 1:49:06.960 --> 1:49:08.479 could take it back. Man, when we used to do 1:49:08.600 --> 1:49:12.800 live in open garden and mansion and a bamboo. 1:49:17.640 --> 1:49:17.840 You know. 1:49:18.320 --> 1:49:20.200 So anyway, when I'm trying to say, I still love 1:49:20.280 --> 1:49:22.960 this ship, so I don't get tired, No, I still 1:49:23.000 --> 1:49:25.160 you know, I play every every almost every night of 1:49:25.200 --> 1:49:28.600 the week, you know, And that's you still love it 1:49:28.680 --> 1:49:32.519 that way. And and mind you, the music's changed, the 1:49:32.600 --> 1:49:36.080 culture has changed. But you know I love to play 1:49:36.160 --> 1:49:37.040 open format too. 1:49:37.920 --> 1:49:40.120 Is that what you is that what's made you keep 1:49:40.200 --> 1:49:44.080 the love open format? Yeah, I was just playing. 1:49:44.840 --> 1:49:45.200 I mean. 1:49:46.720 --> 1:49:51.439 I tap into the you could play different genres. 1:49:51.520 --> 1:49:52.960 Let me tell you, Let me tell you my bad 1:49:53.080 --> 1:49:53.439 Let me tell you. 1:49:54.120 --> 1:49:58.040 One day, I'm hanging out with Flaws and Frank White, 1:49:59.520 --> 1:50:02.080 and we followed you for three or four parties. 1:50:02.120 --> 1:50:06.040 You had three or four parties one night something we 1:50:07.280 --> 1:50:08.560 I got tired. 1:50:15.920 --> 1:50:19.400 When when what he's talking about? Things like that. 1:50:19.479 --> 1:50:22.560 It's an hour set, yeah, but for the most part nowadays, 1:50:22.640 --> 1:50:25.080 it's no more than two hours. You know, you're going 1:50:25.160 --> 1:50:27.000 there to body the club man. 1:50:27.080 --> 1:50:28.920 You go, you're being Elizabeth. 1:50:29.360 --> 1:50:31.960 You'll go like somewhere in there like nowhere like and 1:50:32.040 --> 1:50:35.720 then you'll go like Guttenberg and then like something like. 1:50:35.960 --> 1:50:38.000 We always end up up town because I'm telling oh 1:50:38.200 --> 1:50:40.080 my god, and you end up in like man And 1:50:42.400 --> 1:50:44.439 couldn't have happened three. 1:50:44.280 --> 1:50:47.360 In the morning, right, yeah, couldn't happen, of course not Yeah, 1:50:47.400 --> 1:50:51.679 And it's a blessing serado, yeah, because move right, yeah, 1:50:51.720 --> 1:50:55.879 you know, and listen, I've seen I started calendar flyers 1:50:56.000 --> 1:50:58.680 right like I want to, meaning I put a run 1:50:58.760 --> 1:51:01.000 down with the I'm doing a month. I started that 1:51:01.080 --> 1:51:04.040 in like twenty two thousand and nine eight, and all 1:51:04.080 --> 1:51:06.960 the DJ is doing now they follow that lead. You know, 1:51:07.040 --> 1:51:09.280 I don't want to say, I started it, you know, 1:51:10.560 --> 1:51:12.960 and I love to see every fucking DJ doing it 1:51:12.960 --> 1:51:16.000 because like the fun I started eating, like you know, 1:51:16.160 --> 1:51:16.760 they're all doing it. 1:51:16.880 --> 1:51:21.240 It's love. I don't. I don't share, you know, it's 1:51:21.320 --> 1:51:23.880 it's I love what I do. Man, I don't get tired. 1:51:23.960 --> 1:51:25.280 And it's clear, you know. 1:51:25.360 --> 1:51:25.840 And listen. 1:51:26.760 --> 1:51:29.600 I love radio too, I still love. On top of that, 1:51:29.920 --> 1:51:32.320 I'm on the radio every day, prime time. That's a blessing, 1:51:32.920 --> 1:51:35.920 you know. And this time that we're living in radio 1:51:36.120 --> 1:51:39.400 like to me, I love I going there, energize every day, 1:51:39.880 --> 1:51:40.439 want to work. 1:51:41.000 --> 1:51:48.760 You know what. I'm sorry, I got my flowers. Sorry, No, 1:51:49.000 --> 1:51:54.040 this is yours your flight. That's right, that's right, that's right. 1:51:54.600 --> 1:51:56.920 I'm the Tony YAlO too, you know what I'm saying. 1:52:01.720 --> 1:52:03.759 One thing we I don't think we highlighted though about 1:52:03.880 --> 1:52:05.640 enough is the production side of it. 1:52:05.720 --> 1:52:07.559 Oh that's right, because you did that's right. You got 1:52:07.640 --> 1:52:08.320 platinum records. 1:52:08.320 --> 1:52:11.000 But you say you did the remix to Get Money, right, 1:52:11.520 --> 1:52:14.280 which is an iconic remix. Talk about it, my brother 1:52:14.400 --> 1:52:17.000 jif man that and you did you produced on. 1:52:17.280 --> 1:52:19.000 Bigs you know, by somebody kills you. 1:52:19.280 --> 1:52:22.880 Yeah, And you know what you try to chop up 1:52:22.920 --> 1:52:24.840 to get money, and Big told you not to chop 1:52:24.880 --> 1:52:25.120 it up. 1:52:25.280 --> 1:52:27.040 You know what, leave it, leave it. You know what, 1:52:27.400 --> 1:52:31.000 when you travel on the road with an artist, especially 1:52:31.080 --> 1:52:34.360 like Big Big new as of DJ, not just for 1:52:34.520 --> 1:52:36.479 him on the road, but on the radio and the 1:52:36.600 --> 1:52:40.240 mixtapes and stuff. So whenever we got to meet, he 1:52:40.400 --> 1:52:42.720 was like a crackhead. He'd be like, what you got, 1:52:43.240 --> 1:52:46.920 what's new? What they got? And then like a student, 1:52:47.439 --> 1:52:51.640 he wants he wants to listen and break down what 1:52:51.760 --> 1:52:55.080 they're saying. Like that was his way of knowing if. 1:52:55.000 --> 1:52:56.600 He was still good or if he was hot on 1:52:56.760 --> 1:52:57.479 staying relevant. 1:52:57.560 --> 1:53:00.600 Yeah, that was just what you got. I remember I 1:53:00.640 --> 1:53:03.280 brought him to my crib in Brooklyn to do a 1:53:03.360 --> 1:53:06.960 mixtape freestyle for me. It was a kid named Freshco 1:53:07.120 --> 1:53:10.600 the Flower. Freshcot was signed to Tommy Boy Records and 1:53:11.040 --> 1:53:17.080 nineteen ninety Freshco fright and to put it in perspective, 1:53:17.160 --> 1:53:18.599 I know why you didn't hear because it was old. 1:53:19.920 --> 1:53:22.679 In nineteen ninety one, he won the New Music Seminar 1:53:22.880 --> 1:53:27.080 contest for the best Rapper that year. DJ Miss was 1:53:27.120 --> 1:53:31.000 the best DJ and they and together they made him 1:53:31.000 --> 1:53:37.160 a group. So I knew him because he used to 1:53:37.280 --> 1:53:40.240 live in Sunset Park, Brooklyn for a little while, and 1:53:40.479 --> 1:53:42.400 that wasn't too far from Flo Push, where I lived. 1:53:43.520 --> 1:53:45.760 And when I told Biggie I freshcol come into the crib, 1:53:45.840 --> 1:53:51.280 he was like where like almost like intimidated. And then 1:53:53.120 --> 1:53:55.120 when I did drops for a Fresh go on on 1:53:55.240 --> 1:53:57.280 the on the production, He's like, Yo, can I get 1:53:57.320 --> 1:54:01.560 some drops? Two yea. So it was just funny like 1:54:01.640 --> 1:54:05.280 this just to see that, you know, early Big and 1:54:05.439 --> 1:54:09.160 the way he just loved music and we'd ride in 1:54:09.240 --> 1:54:12.560 the car and he hit music. We listened to do 1:54:12.960 --> 1:54:16.960 mixtapes like to Get Money remix was off of Uh. 1:54:17.120 --> 1:54:19.439 The idea came from DJ do Wop. I said this 1:54:19.760 --> 1:54:23.799 before shut Up than you Do Wop headed a ninety 1:54:23.840 --> 1:54:28.600 five Live Part two mixtape and Somebody Somebody. If you 1:54:28.680 --> 1:54:32.520 go back on that mixtape, I forgot Somebody's wrapping on 1:54:32.760 --> 1:54:37.680 Dennis Edwards. Uh, don't look any further. And then Big 1:54:37.840 --> 1:54:39.400 was like, Yo, can you loop it up up for me? 1:54:40.320 --> 1:54:42.640 And then you know, back in those days as a producers, 1:54:43.120 --> 1:54:45.360 you didn't want to just loot or jack something you 1:54:45.400 --> 1:54:47.240 want to be He wanted to chop it up and 1:54:47.320 --> 1:54:50.480 make it special. He was like it was like, we're 1:54:50.520 --> 1:54:54.240 not chopping it up. I said, what happened? He said, 1:54:55.400 --> 1:54:57.280 They're gonna charge me the same money no matter what, 1:54:57.440 --> 1:54:59.160 whether you chop it like this or the fact. So 1:54:59.280 --> 1:55:01.040 that just take the who ship, all right. 1:55:01.280 --> 1:55:05.120 So I was like like confectionless, like showing up to 1:55:06.320 --> 1:55:09.800 like showing up to sound checks and like that, like 1:55:10.000 --> 1:55:12.160 every time you got to doe you go to or 1:55:12.240 --> 1:55:13.680 take it serious like that, or I. 1:55:13.760 --> 1:55:16.120 Mean I would do that. Yeah, he was, he was, 1:55:16.240 --> 1:55:20.880 he was already. He was already. He was already big. 1:55:20.920 --> 1:55:27.600 You know what I'm saying. Yeah, get quick time. We 1:55:27.720 --> 1:55:28.360 got quick time. 1:55:29.040 --> 1:55:31.880 Camello. We're gonna just have Camello and enough. 1:55:31.880 --> 1:55:39.560 Just Camelos is a drinker. Drink and but you yeah, 1:55:41.760 --> 1:55:42.920 and all right. 1:55:43.120 --> 1:55:45.720 So the rules, guys, so we're gonna give you this 1:55:45.920 --> 1:55:49.600 or that question you pick. If you don't pick, you 1:55:49.680 --> 1:55:52.000 take a shot. You know what, If you don't pick, 1:55:52.040 --> 1:55:54.480 we take a shot. If you say both we picked, 1:55:54.600 --> 1:55:56.640 we take a shot. But if you pick, we want 1:55:56.680 --> 1:55:59.280 a story. Okay, we want a story either way though, 1:55:59.360 --> 1:56:04.680 actually got you it. Really this is about stories. We're 1:56:04.680 --> 1:56:07.360 not trying to nobody, h this is just to bring 1:56:07.480 --> 1:56:11.040 up stories, you know, all right, Clark k Inner, Caseley, 1:56:11.120 --> 1:56:15.520 rest in peace to both. And this is any criteria. 1:56:15.800 --> 1:56:19.040 There's no crit this whatever the relationship that you had. 1:56:19.960 --> 1:56:22.160 And if you say both, it's all good. You just 1:56:22.240 --> 1:56:24.800 drink and we don't got to drink. You guys got 1:56:25.000 --> 1:56:27.600 mamajuana with men. Mamajana for you guys. 1:56:28.400 --> 1:56:30.960 You' might have to drink. You know why, I'm gonna 1:56:30.960 --> 1:56:36.520 tell you why. I don't know if you don't know, 1:56:37.120 --> 1:56:40.960 but case Slay at one time was homeless, really and 1:56:41.120 --> 1:56:45.120 case Lay used to clean cars with a squeegee. He 1:56:45.280 --> 1:56:47.600 was fucked up, like legit homeless and that yeah, he 1:56:47.720 --> 1:56:50.400 was fucked up the graffiti days, maybe a little bit 1:56:50.440 --> 1:56:53.640 after that, and he's a legendary graffitio. And now you 1:56:53.720 --> 1:56:57.120 know his skill set on the graffiti is stupid wild. 1:56:57.160 --> 1:57:02.000 So if he's Hall, I'm a big up Clark too. 1:57:02.120 --> 1:57:06.520 But I beg I'm hard because he fought for the 1:57:06.600 --> 1:57:10.000 streets and no matter how political a got, I had 1:57:10.040 --> 1:57:13.720 only seven and never changed his trajectory of where he 1:57:13.840 --> 1:57:15.880 was going with his show and what he believed in. 1:57:16.240 --> 1:57:19.680 So I salute him for that fact. But Clark Ken, 1:57:20.200 --> 1:57:23.600 he taught me that you just loving the music is 1:57:23.640 --> 1:57:27.680 almost everything. Yeah, we could love hip hop, but we 1:57:27.720 --> 1:57:30.760 could love rock and roll, we could love dance, love house, 1:57:30.880 --> 1:57:35.120 we could love Spanish music, you know, like we're lovers 1:57:35.160 --> 1:57:37.880 of music. And he taught me that and it made 1:57:37.920 --> 1:57:39.880 that safe for me. So that's why you both you're 1:57:39.960 --> 1:57:44.720 gonna drink. Let's go drink. Cheers, brother, cheers for the legends. 1:57:45.920 --> 1:57:47.760 That was a hall one already. Damn it's gonna be. 1:57:50.720 --> 1:57:54.040 Yeah, all right, biggie resting piece. 1:57:54.680 --> 1:57:58.920 Yeah, this is mister Lee and hazard is sound like 1:57:59.160 --> 1:58:01.040 the Colombian and the Dominican. 1:58:02.800 --> 1:58:06.120 Yeah, we call the second that's who. That's who it 1:58:06.200 --> 1:58:08.120 is that that's the. 1:58:08.160 --> 1:58:13.360 Colombia and the Dominican. Let me pour up in case. Uh, 1:58:14.320 --> 1:58:16.800 I'm along with but Big because that's my guy and 1:58:16.840 --> 1:58:18.720 I worked for him, and I'll be stoopid not to 1:58:18.760 --> 1:58:25.880 say his name. Okay, jay Z or Big Daddy came ship. 1:58:29.880 --> 1:58:35.720 I'm gonna say jay Z for me. Okay, oh yeah, 1:58:35.720 --> 1:58:41.200 I'm gonna say ho. Can't bro that going around the table. 1:58:41.800 --> 1:58:42.440 What you're doing? 1:58:42.640 --> 1:58:46.840 Man runs here? Kick Capri. 1:58:49.800 --> 1:58:50.600 Kick Capri for me. 1:58:52.320 --> 1:58:55.040 Yeah, I'm with the k Capri man, I mean shots 1:58:55.080 --> 1:58:55.560 the ca Capri. 1:58:56.920 --> 1:59:02.360 Now they're both legends he's an inspiration and shout out 1:59:02.400 --> 1:59:04.800 to ron g because of course Dell with it too. 1:59:06.480 --> 1:59:10.680 So you said, Cai Capri, all right, nazarell. 1:59:11.440 --> 1:59:16.040 He gonna asked me. You know, I personally got a 1:59:16.120 --> 1:59:16.560 drink to that. 1:59:17.160 --> 1:59:23.880 All right, relax, don't don't you're leading the witness. Fuck no, 1:59:24.040 --> 1:59:32.840 fuck just Naza nas yeah he dah any reason, baby, 1:59:33.720 --> 1:59:34.600 you don't have to give reason. 1:59:34.680 --> 1:59:40.560 He's a Liverpool master said that's it, all right, Red 1:59:40.600 --> 1:59:43.240 alert or marm bet alert. 1:59:44.920 --> 1:59:51.560 And you answered pretty fast, man, Caldar drama. Call Jesus 1:59:51.680 --> 1:59:56.200 your host. Analog or digital, both of y'all. 1:59:59.040 --> 2:00:06.200 That's tough one too, bo Analog. I was like, did 2:00:06.240 --> 2:00:10.800 you meant to put it? Who wrote an I'm gonna 2:00:10.800 --> 2:00:12.360 I'm gonna say digital digital? 2:00:12.520 --> 2:00:18.560 Okay, no, I know, but the way you or Amnesia 2:00:18.680 --> 2:00:22.160 or Mansion Amnesia. That was the name of the club. 2:00:22.320 --> 2:00:27.760 Yeah, yeah, that's what story used to be. Yes, yes, 2:00:29.120 --> 2:00:33.680 but that's enough the name because I did but I 2:00:33.800 --> 2:00:34.520 wasn't there for that. 2:00:35.040 --> 2:00:36.000 So which one of those two? 2:00:37.840 --> 2:00:41.600 I enjoyed the Opium Garden Spot? What was that, Anesia? 2:00:42.640 --> 2:00:43.200 I enjoyed? 2:00:43.240 --> 2:00:46.360 That was the Miami Spots, right, yeah, okay, okay? 2:00:46.920 --> 2:00:49.360 Which is the one that prints on No, that's glam. 2:00:49.480 --> 2:00:52.560 Slam became mansion. Yea mansion. That was a hot spot, 2:00:52.880 --> 2:00:58.800 that was place. Was that to change your cality? Used 2:00:58.840 --> 2:01:02.560 to open up for me in Miami? Yeah, club for sure, 2:01:02.640 --> 2:01:05.720 you want me want Joe wanted to kill me. I 2:01:05.800 --> 2:01:06.680 love his DJ talk. 2:01:07.920 --> 2:01:10.600 The first time I ever played in Miami ever ninety 2:01:10.680 --> 2:01:15.240 eight was at Liquid and cat It open up for me. 2:01:15.360 --> 2:01:21.720 I'll never forget that. And first time ever in ninety 2:01:21.920 --> 2:01:24.000 and we got shutouts. Who was the king of the 2:01:24.160 --> 2:01:24.960 clubs in Miami? 2:01:27.960 --> 2:01:31.960 DJ, I see you, that's crazy to me. And then 2:01:31.960 --> 2:01:33.280 I look I saw Cataly, I said, I look at 2:01:33.360 --> 2:01:34.320 him like damn. 2:01:34.160 --> 2:01:37.920 This is Yeah, it's beautiful the way it moves. What 2:01:38.080 --> 2:01:39.840 was the pirate radio station? I was here? 2:01:40.120 --> 2:01:43.520 Well, we had a couple we I had one. I 2:01:43.640 --> 2:01:45.560 was on ninety four point seven. Oh you think about 2:01:45.560 --> 2:01:47.680 Mix ninety six, which is where Cali came from. 2:01:47.760 --> 2:01:49.200 I don't know what's another one. 2:01:50.000 --> 2:01:53.200 It was a mixed, nice rad we had so many. 2:01:54.400 --> 2:01:55.960 It might have been Wow, it might have been that 2:01:56.080 --> 2:01:58.800 one g oud station. I don't I'm not too sure. 2:01:58.680 --> 2:02:02.000 That you're thinking. Or DJ raw station that was a 2:02:02.120 --> 2:02:06.600 bus yo all I know around that wasn't it. I mean, 2:02:06.680 --> 2:02:11.120 I remember being here in ninety ninety seven and this 2:02:11.240 --> 2:02:14.000 town was dead. There was number old people. 2:02:14.320 --> 2:02:19.720 Hey, come on, man, Yeah, you went to South Beach 2:02:19.760 --> 2:02:20.080 and it was. 2:02:21.080 --> 2:02:24.800 It was old people reekally and they were and they 2:02:24.840 --> 2:02:27.120 were catching some tans by the beach all day. They 2:02:27.160 --> 2:02:27.839 looked orange. 2:02:30.040 --> 2:02:30.680 This person. 2:02:33.640 --> 2:02:36.440 Ship. I remember my early big Uncle Luke stories too. 2:02:36.520 --> 2:02:37.480 Those are fire too. 2:02:38.000 --> 2:02:39.400 The bigging Uncle Luke ship. 2:02:39.440 --> 2:02:39.880 What happened? 2:02:39.960 --> 2:02:44.440 Talk about it? Well, you know, I want to. I 2:02:44.440 --> 2:02:45.040 don't know if you were. 2:02:45.600 --> 2:02:47.760 I went to the first show that big did hear 2:02:47.760 --> 2:02:51.320 in Miami lit a spot called My High Temple Mahi Temple. 2:02:51.680 --> 2:02:52.000 I don't know. 2:02:52.000 --> 2:02:57.280 I don't know if you were the DJ probably Oh man, 2:02:57.800 --> 2:03:03.800 that hurts, Bro. You're drinking. Oh all right, let's drinking here. 2:03:05.080 --> 2:03:08.160 I'm on to be Q with that one. Brooklyn Queen's 2:03:08.360 --> 2:03:16.200 enough day. I like that. That's who connects us, Bro 2:03:16.320 --> 2:03:20.800 Brooklyn and Queens to be Q's fact. Either that or 2:03:20.840 --> 2:03:30.000 the Jackie Robinson car West one or Rocky rock Him. Yeah, 2:03:31.040 --> 2:03:33.240 the Caress one is nasty too good. Rock him for me? 2:03:33.600 --> 2:03:42.800 Okay, shouts of both of them. Still man, he said 2:03:42.840 --> 2:03:46.360 he went to school with you in Kingsboro? Who who 2:03:46.440 --> 2:03:48.880 did the guy who owns we want? 2:03:49.400 --> 2:03:49.720 I was like. 2:03:51.680 --> 2:03:55.560 Video for you even posted we got oh got. 2:03:56.960 --> 2:03:58.040 Jeddy Riley or for. 2:04:03.600 --> 2:04:11.560 Teddy that's just for me, Teddy Teddy without Teddy's. 2:04:11.320 --> 2:04:13.840 For that's about to say, like you can't it's hard. 2:04:13.960 --> 2:04:15.040 That's the best way. 2:04:15.360 --> 2:04:19.760 Yeahs before in a good way, because there's no Teddy, 2:04:19.760 --> 2:04:21.880 there's no forar Real Dopper, Tony Touch. 2:04:22.480 --> 2:04:27.720 This is gonna be both yes brothers, brothers together for me, 2:04:27.920 --> 2:04:31.800 Tony Touch only because I got a better relationship with Touch. Okay, 2:04:32.040 --> 2:04:36.120 so both of them. I'm gonna have to go with Tony. 2:04:37.480 --> 2:04:42.080 But then those fifty not to fifty yes ninety five 2:04:42.200 --> 2:04:47.440 live Bro amazing, and then Tony later minute is fifty. 2:04:47.640 --> 2:04:51.640 MC crazy crazy if you know, you know crazy and 2:04:51.760 --> 2:04:53.879 they's Cruise name again. 2:04:59.600 --> 2:05:10.200 And it was unique you need unique? Yeah, had that voice. 2:05:10.240 --> 2:05:10.720 Yeah Yeah. 2:05:12.160 --> 2:05:16.640 That's when the mixtape game really ran hip hop. It 2:05:16.800 --> 2:05:19.680 was like the mixtape game was above radio at that time. 2:05:19.760 --> 2:05:20.720 In my opinion, the. 2:05:20.760 --> 2:05:24.760 Mixtape game got me to Germany in ninety nine because 2:05:24.800 --> 2:05:27.160 of a mixtape of promoter hired me Bro. 2:05:27.320 --> 2:05:29.520 What part of Germany duel? You know? 2:05:29.960 --> 2:05:30.200 For me? 2:05:30.240 --> 2:05:34.440 It was Munich, Heidelberg, Heidelberg and Munich nowhere if you 2:05:34.560 --> 2:05:35.440 unless you're going to to. 2:05:35.560 --> 2:05:43.320 Little Dog, I love it? How much you like it? 2:05:43.640 --> 2:05:45.680 The mixtape for the DJs was the website. So what 2:05:45.920 --> 2:05:50.840 internet was Internet? Straight out? Yeah, there you go, there 2:05:50.840 --> 2:05:53.040 you go Now, mixtape game has changed lives. I changed 2:05:53.080 --> 2:05:57.680 my life on all right, I'm sorry? Was crazy? What 2:05:57.800 --> 2:06:00.520 was the name of the crazy? Crazy? Crazy? 2:06:00.680 --> 2:06:00.840 Yeah? 2:06:01.360 --> 2:06:09.360 Crazy? It's the shots, Tupac or d m X GMx, 2:06:10.880 --> 2:06:11.720 how about you? Sorry? 2:06:11.880 --> 2:06:14.440 My answer if you would have asked you this question 2:06:14.600 --> 2:06:18.080 in two thousand would have been d m X. But 2:06:18.200 --> 2:06:20.800 after many years of me doing homework because I was 2:06:21.040 --> 2:06:23.360 when when when when? When it was New York and 2:06:23.920 --> 2:06:26.440 on the West Coast, I was so change over years. Yeah, 2:06:26.480 --> 2:06:29.320 because I started to really study Tupac and listen. 2:06:29.600 --> 2:06:31.360 Really and then I was like, whoa, it was a 2:06:31.440 --> 2:06:31.960 late bloomer. 2:06:32.320 --> 2:06:36.640 Yeah, made you want to study though, just as a 2:06:36.760 --> 2:06:40.400 little by little started hearing new Tupac songs and I 2:06:40.520 --> 2:06:45.040 was like, yo, this guy is like he's ill ill and. 2:06:46.800 --> 2:06:51.280 Yes, crazy because he did Yeah, you pay more work 2:06:54.560 --> 2:06:58.440 to this days was called a cult following. 2:06:59.360 --> 2:07:02.840 That's it, but also PU did that was smart? 2:07:03.160 --> 2:07:10.400 Is he he's such a catalog that it lastens beyond time. 2:07:11.120 --> 2:07:12.200 And that's what happened with us. 2:07:12.240 --> 2:07:14.760 For DJ that you started to do homework and I 2:07:14.840 --> 2:07:18.800 was like, damn, Tupac is ill. And back then I 2:07:18.920 --> 2:07:22.520 was just not I'm not seeing that. I was stubborn 2:07:22.560 --> 2:07:26.680 and young. I'm like queens. You know CNN. 2:07:28.480 --> 2:07:31.840 Channel ten, New York, New York. You know what I'm saying. 2:07:32.040 --> 2:07:34.200 People don't know what Channel ten is, right, it was 2:07:34.360 --> 2:07:35.800 the it was a channel. 2:07:40.520 --> 2:07:46.839 Coolgie rapper, slick rickhe oh they all tell stories. 2:07:46.960 --> 2:07:51.920 Yup. Story King's right there, slick Rick for me, Coolie 2:07:52.000 --> 2:07:52.440 rap for me. 2:07:53.160 --> 2:07:53.800 I didn't. 2:07:58.160 --> 2:07:59.600 You got drink? You got drink? 2:08:00.120 --> 2:08:01.400 You're taking a bloom from mister Lee. 2:08:01.480 --> 2:08:06.080 You know what that means? Right? Is it late? I'm 2:08:06.080 --> 2:08:15.760 doing it because Champs. I'll take a shot. I promised 2:08:15.760 --> 2:08:18.560 the white I wouldn't smoke. That's right now. Don't smoke. Please, 2:08:18.560 --> 2:08:21.280 don't smoke. I even smoking. 2:08:21.280 --> 2:08:25.880 By the way, Kanye, doctor dre. 2:08:27.280 --> 2:08:36.760 Mm hmm ship. I'm gonna go Kanye with that, Doctor Dre. 2:08:41.280 --> 2:08:44.040 You think this is generational because you're a little younger, 2:08:44.520 --> 2:08:47.960 was no listen like the dispar the way these questions 2:08:47.960 --> 2:08:51.040 are put they're both. They're all hard, they're all tough. 2:08:51.200 --> 2:08:51.360 Man. 2:08:52.000 --> 2:08:54.760 But I want to say, it's just so many songs 2:08:54.800 --> 2:08:55.920 with Kanye man, it's. 2:08:55.840 --> 2:08:59.960 Like and so many songs that true, true, but more current, 2:09:00.160 --> 2:09:03.760 like there's so much you need to explain. 2:09:03.840 --> 2:09:04.080 That's not. 2:09:07.360 --> 2:09:11.560 Lawyer, it's just the person ship. 2:09:12.160 --> 2:09:12.320 You know. 2:09:12.640 --> 2:09:16.839 Drake got the timeless, timeless, you could play anything. 2:09:16.920 --> 2:09:18.960 I mean, doctor Drake got the time, this times. 2:09:19.080 --> 2:09:24.960 That's what I said, Drake, Drake, that's what too. Matter 2:09:25.000 --> 2:09:31.360 of fact, you take a shot. I gotta go another, 2:09:32.520 --> 2:09:33.000 both of them. 2:09:34.480 --> 2:09:42.440 Reduction wise, all right, Illmatic ready to die, m h. 2:09:46.240 --> 2:09:47.480 I want to see how this goes. 2:09:47.640 --> 2:09:56.080 This is gonna be fantastic. And don't lawyer, you're a lawyer. 2:09:58.320 --> 2:10:01.520 He's gonna go Illmatic. I'm gonna go to die. 2:10:02.040 --> 2:10:05.160 And this is the way we roll all drink drinking. 2:10:05.800 --> 2:10:12.960 I'm gonna even take a show. Understands warning warning poways. 2:10:14.480 --> 2:10:17.400 You don't know what ill Matic gets. Anybody from Queens. 2:10:18.160 --> 2:10:18.720 Is the Bible. 2:10:19.720 --> 2:10:23.920 It's hip hop, man, I know, but you're talking us queens, queens, queens. 2:10:24.800 --> 2:10:25.520 It's just trust me. 2:10:25.600 --> 2:10:37.160 I know, queens queens. Queens looks like you broke and 2:10:37.200 --> 2:10:40.000 you're walking I'm from Queens. 2:10:39.720 --> 2:10:49.400 Bro you're walking. Don't say you guys didn't have love? 2:10:49.440 --> 2:10:55.360 Having is walking In the Spanish version, he had nothing. 2:10:55.480 --> 2:11:05.680 Next ys ago n W A republic enemy m yeah, 2:11:08.560 --> 2:11:11.800 the tough ones man. Damn, this is a enough question 2:11:11.920 --> 2:11:12.200 right here. 2:11:12.320 --> 2:11:27.920 Man, I'm going to say publican bad Okay, Sorry, you're 2:11:27.960 --> 2:11:29.000 asking me right here? 2:11:29.120 --> 2:11:29.240 Is it? 2:11:29.320 --> 2:11:29.520 I was? 2:11:32.320 --> 2:11:34.920 I don't know what's going on? All right, toots, he's 2:11:34.960 --> 2:11:35.560 a booby Trap. 2:11:36.480 --> 2:11:42.360 I'm asking you. Don't do that. I'm asking you. I 2:11:42.440 --> 2:11:46.920 don't know booby trap. Now I'm asking you. I dragged 2:11:46.960 --> 2:11:51.160 him to booby Trap. You guys, I'm booby Trap all day. 2:11:51.200 --> 2:11:55.360 You're crazy baby. Oh ship Hollywood Kale from Mob not 2:11:55.440 --> 2:11:58.120 the coach. He's calling right now. They're calling you from 2:11:58.160 --> 2:11:58.720 booby Trust. 2:12:00.200 --> 2:12:00.360 Yo. 2:12:00.480 --> 2:12:05.400 Let me call you right back. I'll call you right back. Sorry. 2:12:07.520 --> 2:12:11.960 All should have said booby Trap or Club eleven in 2:12:12.120 --> 2:12:12.600 the Bronx. 2:12:12.960 --> 2:12:19.640 No Club eleven. Yeah, yeah, the Club eleven. Know this, 2:12:19.800 --> 2:12:26.120 This is the Mega Mega Club eleven. I see much 2:12:26.160 --> 2:12:29.480 haven't been for me to me. Club eleven is a nightclub. 2:12:30.280 --> 2:12:33.000 It's just a nightclub. That's what all these nights are. 2:12:33.120 --> 2:12:33.280 Now. 2:12:33.640 --> 2:12:35.400 It's a nightclub with some strip polls around it. 2:12:35.520 --> 2:12:43.600 It's to me, loud shows. 2:12:43.920 --> 2:12:44.680 It's not the track. 2:12:44.760 --> 2:12:50.080 It's like, I don't get another sho questions the. 2:12:50.120 --> 2:13:01.440 Place color is? You know what I'm having show tell show. 2:13:02.840 --> 2:13:03.440 Show what you. 2:13:08.800 --> 2:13:10.600 Show what I'm telling you act to me like it 2:13:10.680 --> 2:13:11.920 was however it was. 2:13:12.880 --> 2:13:15.960 It was my show. I say. I went with him, 2:13:16.040 --> 2:13:18.480 but I was like, yo, I just yo. They played 2:13:18.520 --> 2:13:21.560 this record every time we work. Bro tell me now, 2:13:22.360 --> 2:13:25.280 they played all our records. They pay my mixtape record. 2:13:25.320 --> 2:13:29.280 I just make right now. Wow. The girls dancer ass 2:13:29.400 --> 2:13:32.520 I was amazing brow. It was the only good thing about. 2:13:33.840 --> 2:13:34.080 Ship. 2:13:34.560 --> 2:13:37.640 It's funny, said, go to the next We're dying slowly, okay. 2:13:39.440 --> 2:13:41.320 Joe and Jada or a million dollars with the game? 2:13:42.280 --> 2:13:43.520 Oh is that again? 2:13:43.960 --> 2:13:46.760 Joe and Jada a million dollars worth the game? 2:13:47.720 --> 2:13:52.840 I'm oh, man, I tell you know what. If I'm 2:13:52.880 --> 2:13:55.280 a question, I'm gonna say Joe and Jada. I love 2:13:55.320 --> 2:13:57.760 the way Joe just overdoes it. I love it, you 2:13:57.960 --> 2:14:03.200 like it? I love it. I know he's getting flagged. 2:14:03.200 --> 2:14:06.400 They funking with him. You don't woman embracing that. I 2:14:06.960 --> 2:14:09.440 love this smartest thing he's ever done. And I love 2:14:09.520 --> 2:14:12.320 how Jada goes who are they? And then he's like 2:14:12.960 --> 2:14:16.160 they like, you know, like he just asks him that 2:14:16.920 --> 2:14:19.720 red Man is the most underground artist, and I love 2:14:19.760 --> 2:14:23.000 how Jada responds, I love that ship. That's dope. Joe 2:14:23.040 --> 2:14:26.840 and Jada got his own smash. I don't go, Jada, Okay, 2:14:28.960 --> 2:14:30.840 do you make some noise for Johan Jadas. 2:14:34.040 --> 2:14:39.400 But makes the man's all the worth of everybody? Yeah, 2:14:40.360 --> 2:14:44.480 all right, Clips are E p m D. This is 2:14:44.920 --> 2:14:51.080 very generational, not really kind of the Clips. 2:14:50.920 --> 2:14:54.280 Clips or E p m D. He stands two different worlds. Man, 2:14:54.480 --> 2:14:57.240 it is, it is, but not really, it's kind of. 2:14:58.240 --> 2:15:01.360 I can see the comparison. I get they made this. 2:15:01.520 --> 2:15:03.360 I get it. I mean, I get it. It's just 2:15:03.840 --> 2:15:06.640 from I gotta go with E p M. I like it, 2:15:07.080 --> 2:15:09.400 even though Clips is from my r. I guess, I 2:15:09.480 --> 2:15:10.880 guess I'm gonna have to go with p D because 2:15:10.880 --> 2:15:14.600 they got some classics that you know, mm hmm it's 2:15:14.720 --> 2:15:17.800 my thing. But the Clips are making their own classes 2:15:17.920 --> 2:15:20.680 right now. But yeah, this guy puts the butt. 2:15:25.360 --> 2:15:28.680 See the comparison, like, actually, I never liked their their 2:15:29.160 --> 2:15:30.480 but I like this comparison. 2:15:30.840 --> 2:15:33.120 It is a good it's good. It's a good one. 2:15:33.200 --> 2:15:38.560 Yeah, definitely going all right, fat Joe Rick Cross. 2:15:39.360 --> 2:15:50.640 Oh ow ouch, y'all gonna drink. I like these dudes cheers, cheers. 2:15:55.200 --> 2:15:57.480 So you said both not neither right, just to that's 2:15:57.480 --> 2:16:00.560 why we drink. You can say we could drink on either. 2:16:00.400 --> 2:16:00.920 Of those. 2:16:04.600 --> 2:16:05.800 A Rockefeller. 2:16:06.960 --> 2:16:18.200 Ay yea yay le fuck that's a hard one. We 2:16:18.480 --> 2:16:27.480 got X dragon llow X. You know that versus with 2:16:27.600 --> 2:16:28.400 the locks. 2:16:28.320 --> 2:16:31.320 And dip set walk. A lot of motherfuckers up how 2:16:31.400 --> 2:16:32.360 much the locks had? 2:16:33.320 --> 2:16:34.000 No for sure? 2:16:35.000 --> 2:16:42.000 That shoot in that must have been classic. Yeah, you 2:16:42.040 --> 2:16:45.959 didn't know. You didn't be that crazy. You would think 2:16:46.240 --> 2:16:46.760 this said I. 2:16:48.400 --> 2:16:48.440 Was. 2:16:48.680 --> 2:16:52.640 Wanda was like, yo, you didn't feel that No, no, no, no, listen, okay, 2:16:52.640 --> 2:16:53.840 I don't ye don't you don't got. 2:16:53.800 --> 2:16:56.000 Grammy, but didn't feel that way in the building that 2:16:56.080 --> 2:16:58.560 it was a landslide in that way everybody in the. 2:16:58.560 --> 2:17:01.400 Building didn't didn't expect that that much. That's what I'm 2:17:01.440 --> 2:17:03.840 trying to get at. That's what I'm trying to get at. 2:17:04.200 --> 2:17:08.720 That's that day was going to bring more yes, everybody, Yes. 2:17:09.160 --> 2:17:13.680 And then that day way, that day you learned that way, honestly, 2:17:13.959 --> 2:17:16.520 that day you learned what the fuck the locks. 2:17:16.600 --> 2:17:19.840 Had you learned that they won't whoa whoa blocks. 2:17:20.240 --> 2:17:23.199 It looked like they actually were practiced for that joint 2:17:23.280 --> 2:17:24.520 with that DJ technicians. 2:17:24.600 --> 2:17:32.080 It was technician. Honestly, the DJ was DJ was instrumental. 2:17:32.240 --> 2:17:35.240 He was switching like he was shot. The technician technician 2:17:35.400 --> 2:17:38.160 brought it bro like. Not to take away from dipsd DJ. 2:17:38.480 --> 2:17:42.160 It's just no, no, like they really went. The DJ 2:17:42.440 --> 2:17:43.080 was instrumental. 2:17:43.200 --> 2:17:45.160 I think Dips that had three different DJs. I think 2:17:45.280 --> 2:17:48.160 Santana had the DJ. I think that would have been 2:17:48.200 --> 2:17:50.200 like that would have been difficults had one DJ. 2:17:50.640 --> 2:17:52.440 It looked like they really really But that day you 2:17:52.520 --> 2:17:55.039 learned the catalog, you you're like, oh ship, you folks, 2:17:55.120 --> 2:17:56.640 remember that you forgot that ship? 2:17:56.720 --> 2:17:59.039 You all Grammys? You want to talk Grammys. You want 2:17:59.080 --> 2:18:00.240 to talk songs to girl else. 2:18:03.760 --> 2:18:06.720 Anyway, back to rock Rockefeller and and and. 2:18:08.400 --> 2:18:11.840 Rough rough Riders. So whould you pick. I'm gonna see 2:18:11.840 --> 2:18:12.360 a Rockefeller. 2:18:14.959 --> 2:18:19.520 What we were talking about, rock Man, this is the 2:18:19.600 --> 2:18:21.119 last one that we get back to the end. He said, 2:18:21.160 --> 2:18:25.400 what Rockefeller took loyalty or respect? 2:18:27.520 --> 2:18:48.280 I've heard this before. I'm gonna go with loyalty. I'm 2:18:48.280 --> 2:18:57.920 gonna respect. Why because you can claim you loyal, but 2:18:58.000 --> 2:19:00.959 if you don't want to respect for me, and why 2:19:01.080 --> 2:19:04.360 not both? I want both, but I'm not drinking on 2:19:04.440 --> 2:19:04.720 the show. 2:19:06.080 --> 2:19:08.000 That's the only time I say we should drink is 2:19:08.400 --> 2:19:10.000 So why would you say both? 2:19:10.120 --> 2:19:13.480 I think both is always it should be the natural answer. 2:19:13.600 --> 2:19:16.320 But some people have a strong opinion on one or 2:19:16.320 --> 2:19:16.600 the other. 2:19:18.600 --> 2:19:20.360 I'll give you a perfect example, and I'm gonna keep 2:19:20.360 --> 2:19:22.280 it a buck on the show. I don't give the fuck. 2:19:23.000 --> 2:19:25.959 There's a couple of DJs in my crew who switched 2:19:26.000 --> 2:19:31.400 sides right, who left for whatever reason because maybe I 2:19:31.600 --> 2:19:35.120 helped them, maybe I didn't help them. So in my mind, 2:19:36.080 --> 2:19:37.800 I would think, you know, I want them to be loyal, 2:19:39.600 --> 2:19:41.320 and if they leave it, they're not respect to me. 2:19:43.160 --> 2:19:47.000 So do you think that's an example of both being wrong? 2:19:48.080 --> 2:19:50.080 I mean definitely, man, because at the end of the days, 2:19:50.120 --> 2:19:52.400 like they didn't respect them, they didn't respect me. They 2:19:52.440 --> 2:19:56.800 would have moved stupid and that was not loyal, right. Wow, 2:19:58.080 --> 2:20:02.840 I was deeper warning and that's why I could see 2:20:02.879 --> 2:20:07.600 the misconscrew's opinions about when Little Lars lost his job 2:20:07.680 --> 2:20:10.280 and I took it, or when come Alo took my job. 2:20:10.360 --> 2:20:17.119 Supposedly because it's it's it's perception. It's people's perceptions that's 2:20:17.160 --> 2:20:21.080 supposed to the truth. Yeah, right, Perception is never reality. 2:20:21.240 --> 2:20:25.360 No, Like perception is like now like like they're saying 2:20:25.440 --> 2:20:28.520 like that, they like kind of like like like when 2:20:28.560 --> 2:20:30.200 he when he, I guess that's what he was trying 2:20:30.200 --> 2:20:32.760 to say by saying snake won a snake too, was 2:20:32.920 --> 2:20:34.600 like like like, yo, bro, wasn't. 2:20:34.480 --> 2:20:35.440 Me Like. 2:20:37.080 --> 2:20:42.240 Right, that's that's his perception, snake won snake too. Do 2:20:42.240 --> 2:20:44.280 you think that was his honest perception of that though? 2:20:45.760 --> 2:20:49.879 I think the narrative straight up making it his story 2:20:50.760 --> 2:20:52.240 because that wasn't the fucking facts. 2:20:54.120 --> 2:20:57.200 That's it that was and then he changed it to 2:20:57.320 --> 2:21:00.760 his narrative. Prior to that's cool, I mean I don't know. 2:21:01.560 --> 2:21:05.840 Prior to that cool with everybody, man, I'm cool everybody, 2:21:06.080 --> 2:21:07.280 Like if you got to see each other. 2:21:08.120 --> 2:21:08.680 It's different. 2:21:08.720 --> 2:21:12.600 Now it's what it is. I ain't got time for this. 2:21:13.320 --> 2:21:17.240 I'm going I got two kids and a dog companies 2:21:17.320 --> 2:21:19.280 to run and to get to. 2:21:20.680 --> 2:21:24.760 Right facts I have so foutely. 2:21:25.600 --> 2:21:28.600 Well, I know our accessed earlier in a different way, 2:21:30.240 --> 2:21:33.880 but were you shocked, like because of your relationship prior 2:21:33.959 --> 2:21:35.840 to that that he would say something like that about 2:21:35.879 --> 2:21:36.520 you publicly. 2:21:36.800 --> 2:21:38.959 I wasn't shocked because at that point. 2:21:39.680 --> 2:21:41.920 And you're still on the station, it's like you're still 2:21:41.959 --> 2:21:44.160 there like at some point, And was it obviously it. 2:21:44.240 --> 2:21:47.080 Was you, I don't know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yah 2:21:47.120 --> 2:21:49.080 yeah yeah yeah, his hands down, you know? 2:21:49.520 --> 2:21:51.160 Was it we just ignorant that. 2:21:53.160 --> 2:21:55.199 He said the people in your room and the people 2:21:55.240 --> 2:21:57.560 in his room other than people that was working there 2:21:57.959 --> 2:22:01.480 were Camello and Juiceky, So it was obviously. 2:22:01.200 --> 2:22:03.840 It was do you knowbody to do the math? It's 2:22:03.920 --> 2:22:06.440 only let's say so. Yeah. 2:22:07.280 --> 2:22:11.760 And I wasn't shocked because looking at the history, the 2:22:11.840 --> 2:22:14.440 way this guy moves, he has beat with the whole 2:22:14.480 --> 2:22:16.840 world like, so I wasn't the following it's our turn 2:22:18.200 --> 2:22:18.520 the fuck? 2:22:18.800 --> 2:22:22.120 I don't know, you know what I'm saying. So I 2:22:22.240 --> 2:22:22.720 wasn't shot. 2:22:24.760 --> 2:22:29.440 Can we leave this whole world? So I want to 2:22:29.480 --> 2:22:31.400 leave this fucking bullshit? 2:22:31.520 --> 2:22:31.560 No? 2:22:31.760 --> 2:22:35.360 No, no, I just listen. This is as me and 2:22:35.520 --> 2:22:36.400 being a New Yorker. 2:22:37.560 --> 2:22:40.000 At some point that either one of y'all things that 2:22:40.120 --> 2:22:42.240 you could just pick up the phone and like talk, 2:22:42.480 --> 2:22:44.119 or do you think it's beyond that point? 2:22:48.280 --> 2:22:54.440 Like I said before, I'm not an asshole. I know, 2:22:54.520 --> 2:22:58.760 I know, I'm a better guy. Maybe we'll talk, but 2:22:59.080 --> 2:23:02.000 not right now. Mm hmm. But the dust settle. It's 2:23:02.000 --> 2:23:08.360 still dusty out here, right Okay, Now I'm gonna switch 2:23:08.400 --> 2:23:08.640 it up. 2:23:08.680 --> 2:23:13.000 But the man o the question if power went over, 2:23:13.160 --> 2:23:19.200 I've caught you right now, another question and say you 2:23:19.360 --> 2:23:23.400 know I got them after the news open for you, buddy. 2:23:24.840 --> 2:23:32.440 At the pilet. I don't know, man, Yo know, as 2:23:32.480 --> 2:23:34.200 long as my man is happy, I really don't know. 2:23:34.240 --> 2:23:36.920 It's all about It's all about that at this point, 2:23:37.000 --> 2:23:39.760 I've learned my lesson, and I don't know if I 2:23:39.800 --> 2:23:43.360 could give about so much time to another. It's just 2:23:43.440 --> 2:23:47.440 another station. So I think I'd rather give more time 2:23:47.480 --> 2:23:50.200 to the heavy hitters. I'd rather give more time to 2:23:50.680 --> 2:23:54.440 your man, and then the things that are gonna benefit 2:23:54.560 --> 2:23:58.600 me directly. I would love to see Andrew Martinez again, 2:23:59.360 --> 2:24:00.960 but I don't know if that's the best thing for me. 2:24:02.640 --> 2:24:04.480 We might be way past that time already. 2:24:05.440 --> 2:24:07.200 The thing is, the thing is the DJ to You 2:24:07.280 --> 2:24:09.000 also got to be happy with the fuck you're doing. 2:24:09.680 --> 2:24:14.039 You know, you gotta be happy playing the music you love. Listen, 2:24:14.160 --> 2:24:16.000 you asked me, yo, you don't get tired of this dude, 2:24:16.080 --> 2:24:16.640 night club ship. 2:24:16.760 --> 2:24:19.240 No, I don't. I love this ship. Let's go. 2:24:19.440 --> 2:24:22.000 What if somebody finds out, well, were in town and 2:24:22.080 --> 2:24:24.760 Miami and they call me, Yeah, let's go nobody rock. 2:24:25.560 --> 2:24:27.960 You got what you do as a DJ. You know, 2:24:28.160 --> 2:24:30.560 DJ plays the heart out the best when they playing 2:24:30.600 --> 2:24:33.120 their music. They fucking love right. 2:24:33.800 --> 2:24:34.560 That's that's the. 2:24:34.640 --> 2:24:38.800 Point though, that's that they love that, they love rights, 2:24:40.040 --> 2:24:40.200 you know. 2:24:40.560 --> 2:24:43.800 So if he says, yeah, I want to do this 2:24:43.920 --> 2:24:45.920 and do it with your heart, that's how you win. 2:24:46.040 --> 2:24:48.360 You got this far because we did it with our hearts. 2:24:48.720 --> 2:24:50.840 As facts. I like what you just said. I like 2:24:50.959 --> 2:24:53.360 that we did it with a heart. I'm running with it. 2:24:53.640 --> 2:24:54.640 A lot of a lot of ship. 2:24:54.680 --> 2:24:54.840 You know. 2:24:54.920 --> 2:24:57.480 This is business, Yeah, no doubt. You have to play 2:24:57.520 --> 2:24:59.320 the role. You have to play the fucking radio role. 2:24:59.600 --> 2:25:05.840 Cool, and you have to give them okay, fifty fifty 2:25:06.320 --> 2:25:07.840 enough seven. 2:25:07.920 --> 2:25:10.600 And that's why it works because you're you're still yourself. 2:25:11.000 --> 2:25:11.560 The minue you. 2:25:11.560 --> 2:25:15.760 Start being forced to be something you're not. That's that's 2:25:15.800 --> 2:25:18.119 the beginning of the end right there. No, you're losing, 2:25:18.520 --> 2:25:21.760 that's it, that's it. This is this is why we've 2:25:21.760 --> 2:25:23.840 been rocking so long. And we're still here. 2:25:24.080 --> 2:25:28.360 So I'm gonna ask you, Camilla, you're still there. You 2:25:28.560 --> 2:25:35.960 rock you Sorry, you're rocking. The bosses see you hearing 2:25:36.080 --> 2:25:39.360 you go to the clubs and then they say, man, 2:25:40.800 --> 2:25:43.920 do you want fun flex spot spot? 2:25:44.400 --> 2:25:46.760 Yeah? You taking let me the real snake. 2:25:49.840 --> 2:25:51.840 If the bosses call me and say do you want 2:25:51.840 --> 2:25:54.000 to funk flex spot, I ain't to say that. 2:25:56.200 --> 2:25:57.600 The question is. The question is. 2:25:58.000 --> 2:26:01.760 The question is if the bosses call me right and 2:26:02.520 --> 2:26:08.920 and say if I want homeboy spot? I mean homeboy 2:26:08.959 --> 2:26:10.920 spot at the Cramon is what I used to do anyway, 2:26:11.560 --> 2:26:15.960 m five o'clock, so, yeah, it's prime time. I've been 2:26:16.040 --> 2:26:19.360 doing prime time for the four to six for the 2:26:19.440 --> 2:26:23.000 past ten years. But but he got so now he 2:26:23.040 --> 2:26:24.760 got five to eleven, right eleven? 2:26:26.120 --> 2:26:29.520 He used to have seven to ten, right right, So 2:26:30.240 --> 2:26:33.119 no seven to midnight seven mins? 2:26:33.240 --> 2:26:38.800 Yeah, okay, correct, all right? So I mean listen, man, 2:26:38.800 --> 2:26:40.480 I don't know what's going on. I don't know. 2:26:41.000 --> 2:26:43.480 I'm still happy when Matt don't get it fucked up. 2:26:43.959 --> 2:26:46.520 I'm still about four o'clock. I'm a happy man. I'm 2:26:46.600 --> 2:26:49.720 happy working When us has worked out very well, I 2:26:49.840 --> 2:26:54.240 salute her. She's professional. Facts you know, and she she worked. 2:26:54.000 --> 2:26:57.720 Like I got telling people four to five every day, five. 2:26:57.280 --> 2:26:59.560 Every day commercial free, not one commercial home on for. 2:26:59.800 --> 2:27:02.000 Hour two three ninety seven ninety seven. 2:27:02.200 --> 2:27:03.560 That's it that you already know. 2:27:03.640 --> 2:27:06.879 You know the knowe salute the girl because she works 2:27:06.879 --> 2:27:12.160 hard and we were good combo. And I'm happy. I've 2:27:12.200 --> 2:27:14.640 been happy and I was never discruntled. To this day, 2:27:14.640 --> 2:27:15.480 I'm not to scruntled. 2:27:17.879 --> 2:27:18.720 Yeah, you are right, bro. 2:27:24.879 --> 2:27:30.320 If you could change anything in this process, what would 2:27:30.320 --> 2:27:32.560 you change? I know you said you would leave what process? 2:27:32.800 --> 2:27:36.560 Like the process of you know, yeah, yeah everything like 2:27:37.000 --> 2:27:39.120 you say one thing earlier, you say you should you 2:27:39.120 --> 2:27:40.920 feel like you should have left out any seven earlier. 2:27:41.360 --> 2:27:44.040 But name something else that if you if you could 2:27:44.120 --> 2:27:47.440 change like yourself, like like, what would you change? 2:27:56.840 --> 2:28:02.680 Sometimes and this is real talk and hurts, but sometimes 2:28:04.000 --> 2:28:08.760 you give so much that you spread yourself thin by 2:28:08.840 --> 2:28:12.720 giving so much. And sometimes when you give so much, 2:28:13.360 --> 2:28:17.280 you take away from yourself. So sometimes maybe I gave 2:28:17.320 --> 2:28:22.480 away too much, you know what I mean? No anybody, 2:28:22.600 --> 2:28:25.800 my friends, my family, my boys, my heavy it is whoever. 2:28:26.720 --> 2:28:29.040 Sometimes you give so much because you love and you 2:28:29.160 --> 2:28:31.880 want to see people win. But then sometimes because you 2:28:32.040 --> 2:28:36.640 do that you're giving away some of yourself, away from yourself, 2:28:36.920 --> 2:28:40.440 from yourself. And I think that's what Flex doesn't like 2:28:41.000 --> 2:28:43.600 about me. He felt that's where maybe he feels like 2:28:45.000 --> 2:28:47.959 I've given up because I'm giving to them so much, 2:28:48.080 --> 2:28:51.080 because I'm giving to this guy so much, so easily, 2:28:51.200 --> 2:28:53.960 like it's nothing where like they want to fight for 2:28:54.080 --> 2:28:57.240 their position. And what's that mentality? The king of the 2:28:57.360 --> 2:28:59.160 hill and you talk to come up to hill to 2:28:59.200 --> 2:29:03.080 get kicked me talk. They want that. So that's the 2:29:03.120 --> 2:29:06.240 only thing, maybe a little bit they got over gage. 2:29:07.640 --> 2:29:08.840 Nah, bro, you can't say that. 2:29:09.000 --> 2:29:09.120 Man. 2:29:09.200 --> 2:29:11.320 If you over gave it, that's a positive. 2:29:11.360 --> 2:29:12.200 Think it's a positive thing. 2:29:12.280 --> 2:29:13.880 That's that's that positive. 2:29:14.240 --> 2:29:17.359 Yeah, that's positive. Listen, not everybody. 2:29:18.920 --> 2:29:20.840 Look, let me say something. I know that he doesn't. 2:29:21.120 --> 2:29:24.200 He doesn't remember this. But you were the first DJ 2:29:24.600 --> 2:29:27.080 to well the only DJ in New York to ever 2:29:27.160 --> 2:29:30.640 play a record that I put out. It was called 2:29:30.640 --> 2:29:33.400 The Alliance Spanish Fly. Shout out to Ebony Underwood. That 2:29:33.440 --> 2:29:36.640 connected us. She connected this and you played one of 2:29:36.680 --> 2:29:37.240 our records. 2:29:37.320 --> 2:29:37.440 Man. 2:29:40.080 --> 2:29:42.200 And let me tell you that I believe that whatever 2:29:42.280 --> 2:29:43.600 you're doing, you do it from the heart. 2:29:43.959 --> 2:29:47.600 This is true. And and you're you're inspiring people when 2:29:47.640 --> 2:29:48.080 you do it. 2:29:49.160 --> 2:29:51.720 Maybe what you you play one record, it doesn't mean 2:29:51.800 --> 2:29:54.840 nothing in that one record played, but it means it 2:29:55.160 --> 2:30:00.320 reverberates right and in them feeling positive and like fire, 2:30:00.440 --> 2:30:03.160 like yo, holy shit, enough, play my record. 2:30:03.200 --> 2:30:04.520 Another thing that Enough. 2:30:04.560 --> 2:30:08.160 He said, He gave so much. I could sit here 2:30:08.320 --> 2:30:15.040 with a list Laura Styles, Bugs cast one pro Style. 2:30:16.400 --> 2:30:18.760 He all gave him a chance. You look at all 2:30:18.840 --> 2:30:22.240 of them. They're all on radio to this day because 2:30:22.240 --> 2:30:25.120 of this man, Camillo, because of this man. 2:30:25.200 --> 2:30:28.840 Yeah, I'm saying the other day. 2:30:29.120 --> 2:30:34.320 The other day, Calle System, beautiful ship, he said. Enough 2:30:34.480 --> 2:30:39.080 was the first one to play what's the record taking over? 2:30:39.560 --> 2:30:43.240 On hot He was the first let's highlight Calid big 2:30:43.360 --> 2:30:46.600 dog pitbull, right, just highlight that, just to make sure 2:30:46.720 --> 2:30:47.959 that it's understood right. 2:30:48.120 --> 2:30:49.880 And he was the first one to touch it and 2:30:50.040 --> 2:30:52.320 keep touching it and playing it. And then the beautiful 2:30:52.360 --> 2:30:56.720 thing that Cali said is unity. It's so important. He goes, 2:30:56.800 --> 2:30:58.520 all I want after all of this is us to 2:30:58.600 --> 2:31:02.080 be in my backyard arbicueing the guys that I. 2:31:02.120 --> 2:31:02.600 Came up with. 2:31:02.800 --> 2:31:06.000 You know, it's like motherfuckers, forget them, Like it's not 2:31:06.560 --> 2:31:09.440 there's nothing wrong with having unity, there's nothing wrong with 2:31:09.480 --> 2:31:12.240 holding each other down. This guy opened so many doors 2:31:12.280 --> 2:31:14.880 for so many people to this day. I mean, the 2:31:14.920 --> 2:31:17.640 list goes on. I got a long list, but it's. 2:31:17.560 --> 2:31:22.440 Like, enough, learn from BETTERRB, Bro, that's it enough. 2:31:22.520 --> 2:31:24.080 You know that there is a class act. 2:31:24.120 --> 2:31:24.240 Bro. 2:31:24.320 --> 2:31:25.640 Of course he's a class act. 2:31:25.920 --> 2:31:26.080 You know. 2:31:26.760 --> 2:31:28.560 Enough was the first one to see Phelly fell in 2:31:28.760 --> 2:31:33.120 l A. Yeah, Felly feels a fucking legend, man, legend, 2:31:34.160 --> 2:31:37.680 you know Parish in Chicago. You know, I saw, I 2:31:37.800 --> 2:31:38.360 learned from him. 2:31:38.440 --> 2:31:40.800 I saw who was who I put Mister Mario said, Yo, 2:31:40.840 --> 2:31:42.160 we gotta put mister Maritil down. 2:31:42.200 --> 2:31:45.480 Remember that the moon of Us legend, legend in Miami. 2:31:45.800 --> 2:31:47.200 You know what I'm saying. And I learned from him 2:31:47.920 --> 2:31:48.840 how she works. 2:31:50.280 --> 2:31:52.600 Entire I mean, yeah, exactly, we're putting that fast forward, 2:31:52.600 --> 2:31:55.640 putting Tis down the feez. You know what I'm saying. Listen, 2:31:56.520 --> 2:31:59.920 it all comes from that energy, and that energy reciprocates. 2:32:00.520 --> 2:32:02.240 So you know, a lot of motherfuckers wouldn't have a 2:32:02.360 --> 2:32:06.520 job if it wasn't for giving so much. And it's 2:32:06.560 --> 2:32:07.240 a beautiful thing. 2:32:07.320 --> 2:32:07.480 Man. 2:32:08.959 --> 2:32:12.920 Now, let's talk, Let's talk, Let's talk. Reggae throne, right, 2:32:15.200 --> 2:32:16.080 I saw your fault. 2:32:18.879 --> 2:32:24.200 You know, I would like to think so, but I 2:32:24.240 --> 2:32:28.080 remember it felt like it was like us against the world, right, 2:32:28.720 --> 2:32:30.320 Like I would go to Puerto Rico, I would hear 2:32:30.360 --> 2:32:33.200 these records. I would come back home, people would like 2:32:33.320 --> 2:32:33.760 laugh at me. 2:32:33.840 --> 2:32:37.160 I'm like, yo, play that the Spanish the Spanish reggae ship, 2:32:37.160 --> 2:32:37.879 because I didn't. 2:32:37.680 --> 2:32:41.160 Know what it was called. I don't know if that's 2:32:41.160 --> 2:32:41.880 what it really was. 2:32:42.320 --> 2:32:45.240 It was like, Yo, the Spanish reggae ship, being Room 2:32:45.320 --> 2:32:48.439 buys test smooth, play that ship. 2:32:49.800 --> 2:32:50.240 When I go. 2:32:51.760 --> 2:32:55.240 And I remember me actually like actually trying a record, 2:32:55.680 --> 2:32:58.039 like I was like Yo, I was telling other DJs 2:32:59.320 --> 2:33:03.840 and they just play the ship. And so I don't 2:33:03.879 --> 2:33:06.320 know if you remember, if you listen Tom Kando, I 2:33:06.360 --> 2:33:07.400 shot both of y'all out. 2:33:09.200 --> 2:33:10.959 I came to the video using the video. 2:33:11.040 --> 2:33:13.760 I keep shot the lex because you're doing their grandpaon 2:33:13.840 --> 2:33:14.680 so I said, Yo, they should. 2:33:15.640 --> 2:33:20.040 But but but but how did that feel like? 2:33:20.160 --> 2:33:23.200 Because like like right now, I'm going I'm going to 2:33:23.240 --> 2:33:25.800 port a weeko tomorrow, right, so obviously I have to 2:33:26.120 --> 2:33:27.520 stop a Bad Money concert. 2:33:27.840 --> 2:33:33.080 But it's my birthday on Saturday. Yeah, yeah, I mean 2:33:34.280 --> 2:33:38.080 you're so ha, you know what I'm trying to say. 2:33:38.120 --> 2:33:40.000 But you know what I'm meaning. I'm there already. 2:33:40.160 --> 2:33:42.520 So but what I'm saying is we think about it, 2:33:42.640 --> 2:33:45.400 like I don't want to say it. Start up saying 2:33:45.440 --> 2:33:49.840 in America because everyone knew, Like I remember when they 2:33:49.920 --> 2:33:55.640 gonna have that joint, everyone thought he was Dominican. 2:33:56.879 --> 2:33:59.440 Order Dominicans. So and I remember like. 2:34:02.959 --> 2:34:05.800 And me trying this record, and I tried it just 2:34:05.920 --> 2:34:07.439 for the Porto Ricae parade. 2:34:08.879 --> 2:34:11.400 And that ship went from spins, the spins and spins. 2:34:11.720 --> 2:34:13.720 But how did it feel like to see like a 2:34:13.840 --> 2:34:18.400 new genre of music, like it filter end. 2:34:19.000 --> 2:34:23.000 And at first the station was like no, and then 2:34:23.080 --> 2:34:25.760 they got behind a gando for the first time and 2:34:25.879 --> 2:34:27.680 that ship was like the number one, Like how. 2:34:27.600 --> 2:34:29.720 Did it feel? I mean not, I don't want to 2:34:29.800 --> 2:34:31.760 limit it to Kanda, but in general. 2:34:31.600 --> 2:34:35.160 I'm saying, in general, like them embracing They're like, now listen, 2:34:35.320 --> 2:34:38.400 listen to how it's like every fifth record is a fucking. 2:34:39.600 --> 2:34:40.200 Fucking uh. 2:34:41.720 --> 2:34:41.879 Yeah. 2:34:42.879 --> 2:34:44.920 All I know is this, and I didn't realize it's 2:34:45.120 --> 2:34:50.920 like good. I think there's that internal racism ship still 2:34:50.959 --> 2:34:54.200 going on around in the world where like the light 2:34:54.280 --> 2:34:58.520 skin blacks the dog skin blacks. That same racism, and 2:34:58.600 --> 2:35:03.080 that perception still lives within the Spanish culture. Uncle, fuck 2:35:03.120 --> 2:35:07.000 your Jamaican as a colonial. That that ship, that's what 2:35:07.120 --> 2:35:12.520 it is. When Bad Bunny's first few records started to 2:35:12.560 --> 2:35:15.640 get played on Hot ninety seven, we were playing them 2:35:15.680 --> 2:35:20.000 ships way more than our mega. Yeah, my man, it's 2:35:20.040 --> 2:35:24.320 a Spanish station, the biggest in the city, and you're 2:35:24.400 --> 2:35:27.520 not playing Bath Bunny. And then Hot ninety seven is 2:35:27.560 --> 2:35:30.360 with a hip hop station, is playing Bad Bunny more 2:35:30.440 --> 2:35:34.800 than y'all, Like, what does that mean? Yeah, yeah, that 2:35:34.920 --> 2:35:37.560 makes no sense to me. It's almost like. 2:35:39.760 --> 2:35:41.560 In the very beginning of let's take a shot for 2:35:41.640 --> 2:35:43.480 the radio for y'all. 2:35:44.440 --> 2:35:50.360 Yeah, when the black programmers didn't program hip hop, all right, 2:35:50.959 --> 2:35:52.640 you had a way. So the white boys came over 2:35:53.160 --> 2:35:55.120 on Hot ninety seven and gave it the green light. 2:35:55.720 --> 2:35:57.720 And then the black guys are mad calling us the 2:35:57.800 --> 2:36:02.920 plantation station. Wow, But the Plantation Station was the one 2:36:02.959 --> 2:36:05.480 that fucking made it legendary for the whole entire world. 2:36:05.800 --> 2:36:06.000 Wow. 2:36:06.680 --> 2:36:11.920 Wow, it's yo. Sometimes there's that internal racism ship. It's 2:36:11.959 --> 2:36:13.640 that little thing in your ear, like when your grandmother 2:36:13.760 --> 2:36:17.080 tells me, my grandmother says why are you playing this music? 2:36:17.720 --> 2:36:20.280 Why a you not playing Southside? Why you're not playing 2:36:20.320 --> 2:36:26.600 Mega Marane game? Like, yeah, but I grew up wanting 2:36:26.640 --> 2:36:32.640 to hear Boom Bab hip hop, electronic hip hop, Africa Bambarda, 2:36:33.440 --> 2:36:36.840 you know, the Zulu beats and all. That ship was 2:36:38.160 --> 2:36:41.480 game changing for me as an artist, I mean as 2:36:41.480 --> 2:36:45.800 a DJ. When you actually artist is correct, when you 2:36:45.840 --> 2:36:48.040 actually yeah, I know, I forget that. But when you 2:36:48.160 --> 2:36:51.400 ask me about Public Enemy and who's my favorite group, 2:36:53.760 --> 2:36:57.560 this is the appreciation level. And I explained this a 2:36:57.640 --> 2:37:01.800 few times. But I would be my house at two 2:37:01.920 --> 2:37:05.680 in the morning, sneaking out to the living room to 2:37:05.800 --> 2:37:09.039 put on some headphones that my dad had and put 2:37:09.080 --> 2:37:11.320 the radio on so I could hear Public Enemy on 2:37:11.360 --> 2:37:14.280 the radia. And when I heard them, they scared this 2:37:14.320 --> 2:37:17.240 ship out of me because I didn't understand what I 2:37:18.120 --> 2:37:21.279 didn't know before that, but I didn't understand what political 2:37:21.440 --> 2:37:24.920 rap was. So when they were talking that ship, I 2:37:25.000 --> 2:37:28.360 was like, Yo, this ship is crazy. And then Nwa 2:37:28.560 --> 2:37:32.440 was ill too. They're the same thing. I always on 2:37:32.560 --> 2:37:39.320 different spectrum they are. Yeah. When Nwa was fucking it 2:37:39.520 --> 2:37:44.640 was eighty nine eighty eight, Yo, bro, every fucking car 2:37:44.800 --> 2:37:48.040 in the hood was playing wa. It wasn't a West 2:37:48.080 --> 2:37:50.320 Coast East Coat thing. It was a fucking hot thing 2:37:52.000 --> 2:37:52.680 with that race. 2:37:56.440 --> 2:37:59.280 Me for the Okano like that era. It was a 2:37:59.400 --> 2:38:03.640 no brainer, like from New York. You know thones already popping, 2:38:03.720 --> 2:38:08.840 you jump on it big made from Queen Johns. It 2:38:08.959 --> 2:38:11.520 was a no brainer and it was just for me. 2:38:11.640 --> 2:38:15.039 It was just no question. You know. I got punished 2:38:15.040 --> 2:38:18.440 for that. Were you early on as a hip hop 2:38:18.520 --> 2:38:19.440 dred percent? 2:38:21.160 --> 2:38:24.720 What you mean? I got punished for that because it 2:38:24.840 --> 2:38:26.400 was not on the playlist. I used to push it 2:38:26.480 --> 2:38:28.320 a lot, and they're like, yo, why are you'll playing 2:38:28.360 --> 2:38:28.879 that so much? 2:38:29.720 --> 2:38:32.440 When is when's this? This is just a fat well. 2:38:32.480 --> 2:38:33.800 They used to make fun of him, used to call 2:38:33.879 --> 2:38:36.200 me mister pill because I used to play him so much. 2:38:36.800 --> 2:38:40.880 But Yo, this guy's on fucking fire. How can you not? 2:38:42.360 --> 2:38:45.920 You know yo, they used to do that fat This 2:38:46.000 --> 2:38:47.879 is gonna end? When is this over? 2:38:49.840 --> 2:38:50.240 That's why? 2:38:50.320 --> 2:38:52.320 That's why, Like, although I have nothing to do with 2:38:52.400 --> 2:38:56.199 the bad Buddy guys at all, Like I'm claiming. 2:38:55.879 --> 2:38:59.280 It like me, I claim it, Like yo, listen, did 2:38:59.640 --> 2:39:01.480 you claiming you sure? 2:39:01.520 --> 2:39:02.560 Claim Yeah? 2:39:02.680 --> 2:39:02.880 Yeah? 2:39:02.920 --> 2:39:06.400 Yeah, Like look all of it see yes on this side, 2:39:06.480 --> 2:39:08.960 on this on the American sign. 2:39:19.240 --> 2:39:21.840 Yeah, but if it wasn't for that, if it wasn't that, 2:39:21.959 --> 2:39:24.040 you don't know how ventually took off. 2:39:24.040 --> 2:39:25.680 But yeah, it would it took off anyway. 2:39:25.720 --> 2:39:27.720 But but you versated the scene thrown. 2:39:27.760 --> 2:39:33.600 Regond Ever added seven, it's me first time if performing 2:39:33.640 --> 2:39:36.520 the Source award is me, first time is added to MTV, 2:39:36.680 --> 2:39:40.840 Me first time, added to BT, this first time KTU. 2:39:41.520 --> 2:39:45.360 You know you go, but you know, something like that 2:39:45.560 --> 2:39:47.920 is new, it's going to be tested and hated. Hip 2:39:47.959 --> 2:39:51.160 hop got hated, right, I got hated, and I got 2:39:51.200 --> 2:39:53.480 hated because it was new to a lot of people. Yeah, 2:39:53.520 --> 2:39:56.440 they didn't understand, they didn't get it. Fast forward to 2:39:56.520 --> 2:40:04.240 twenty twenty five. This everybody, Yeah, that's got better. Let's 2:40:04.320 --> 2:40:07.359 be honest, let's it got better from evolved. 2:40:08.000 --> 2:40:09.560 Because I don't know what you got to use because 2:40:09.560 --> 2:40:12.560 the beat. I was like, wait wait, because the beat change, 2:40:12.680 --> 2:40:17.000 you got more progression change and changing the guy. It 2:40:17.040 --> 2:40:18.119 sounds like jugging hoping. 2:40:19.840 --> 2:40:20.480 I was not feeling. 2:40:20.959 --> 2:40:23.880 Originally a lot of people weren't because it's the same 2:40:23.920 --> 2:40:27.760 beat no no no for latinos, latinos and hip hop. 2:40:27.840 --> 2:40:30.440 I thought it was taking us back right. 2:40:30.520 --> 2:40:34.600 That's the way a lot better were. They needed it, 2:40:34.680 --> 2:40:40.000 needed evolution, man, need that's what happened. I hate bother. 2:40:41.280 --> 2:40:41.320 You. 2:40:41.600 --> 2:40:44.560 Well you you took off the bucket hand and the 2:40:45.040 --> 2:40:49.600 timings and the and the and the camouflage, and you 2:40:49.720 --> 2:40:54.240 got like a sun palm tree. You. Yeah, changed up 2:40:54.600 --> 2:40:59.240 the best time. Got sandals and shorts on. Now come. 2:41:04.360 --> 2:41:06.560 I'll never forget mister C coming up to me saying, 2:41:06.640 --> 2:41:08.320 you know, I need that song, man, that song I 2:41:08.400 --> 2:41:11.280 was playing one time the Copa cabana and and he 2:41:11.440 --> 2:41:17.400 came fifty seventh or thirty four thirty, and he came 2:41:17.600 --> 2:41:19.000 and he saw that reaction. 2:41:18.840 --> 2:41:22.720 Your boy boy boy. Yeah, he saw that fucking crowd. 2:41:23.200 --> 2:41:25.000 The next day on Friday, I need that freck that 2:41:25.080 --> 2:41:28.440 record you played. Oh you just saying it out and 2:41:28.520 --> 2:41:30.920 I was like, I gotcha, yo. And that's one thing 2:41:30.959 --> 2:41:33.000 mister C just said. Always used to Ben he was 2:41:33.080 --> 2:41:34.960 on it. I need this, I need that, I need that. 2:41:35.360 --> 2:41:36.920 Is this fucking is this notrec shit? I throw this 2:41:37.000 --> 2:41:38.000 away like he was on it. 2:41:38.120 --> 2:41:39.880 But you know, it's a beautiful thing about the DJ, 2:41:40.120 --> 2:41:41.960 like somebody that loves what they do. 2:41:42.920 --> 2:41:44.440 You know what I'm saying. That's why he was a legend. 2:41:44.640 --> 2:41:48.880 That mister c was a very very powerful and les 2:41:49.080 --> 2:41:52.760 DJ and unique. A lot of people were scared to 2:41:52.800 --> 2:41:54.760 play after him. I hate the play after him and 2:41:54.840 --> 2:41:58.520 be like, yeah, fuck, I gotta work hard now. But 2:41:58.640 --> 2:42:00.960 he was a tough motherfucker boy. 2:42:01.360 --> 2:42:02.080 Is it true? 2:42:03.400 --> 2:42:07.880 If you if you, if you like, if you're the headliner, 2:42:07.920 --> 2:42:10.520 you could tell the opener not to play a certain record. 2:42:10.920 --> 2:42:13.480 Yeah, you could, you could do that, but why it's 2:42:13.560 --> 2:42:16.440 etiquette because you want to save the headline. It needs 2:42:16.480 --> 2:42:16.959 to shine. 2:42:18.160 --> 2:42:20.400 You'll get pissed if the if the not only that, 2:42:20.560 --> 2:42:22.680 you also have to think about the party itself. 2:42:23.000 --> 2:42:24.160 When you're rocking a place. 2:42:24.320 --> 2:42:26.600 You want this ship to last for four hours and 2:42:26.720 --> 2:42:28.640 you don't want you want to build the ship up 2:42:28.760 --> 2:42:31.720 to be exciting, you know what I'm saying. So you're 2:42:31.760 --> 2:42:35.360 not playing a hot fucking record at midnight because it's 2:42:35.400 --> 2:42:37.000 supposed to turn up at two in the morning. 2:42:37.600 --> 2:42:39.480 You know what I'm saying. That that's that's just the 2:42:39.560 --> 2:42:43.359 old school nowadays, this ship is oh yeah, place. 2:42:44.720 --> 2:42:44.840 Right. 2:42:44.959 --> 2:42:47.840 But respectfully, if there's a headliner, you don't you let 2:42:47.959 --> 2:42:50.240 him do what he does best and you play the low. 2:42:50.800 --> 2:42:53.000 It's not of the flow and you have to. And 2:42:53.080 --> 2:42:54.800 then the other thing is is business too. You have 2:42:54.879 --> 2:42:58.120 to keep those motherfuckers there all night spending money. If 2:42:58.160 --> 2:43:03.920 you hit turn up too early, get to to DJ right, 2:43:04.080 --> 2:43:06.360 DJ etiquette. Man, Let's see. 2:43:06.520 --> 2:43:09.840 I remember you used to call yourself the International Club. 2:43:11.920 --> 2:43:13.680 Yo. I gave him that name. I don't know, I 2:43:13.680 --> 2:43:17.720 don't know I gave that name. 2:43:21.440 --> 2:43:24.360 No, but I'm gonna be honest. I've been to a 2:43:24.440 --> 2:43:27.080 lot of your parties and it is international. 2:43:28.640 --> 2:43:30.120 Like I said before, I like to play a little 2:43:30.120 --> 2:43:32.560 bit of everything, which is the beautiful party. Like when 2:43:32.600 --> 2:43:34.880 you get there's some nice that you just play. Have 2:43:35.000 --> 2:43:37.240 to play ratchet hip hower, but there's some other nice. 2:43:37.280 --> 2:43:39.240 Those best parties is when you could tap into a 2:43:39.280 --> 2:43:43.840 little bit of everything. Gave them a little reggae, fucking house, 2:43:44.520 --> 2:43:46.640 hip hop, old school ship then both. 2:43:49.200 --> 2:43:50.080 I just know girl. 2:43:50.200 --> 2:43:54.400 The house, No, no, no, When I say house, I'm 2:43:54.440 --> 2:44:04.280 talking about the thing called affle house right now, afro 2:44:04.480 --> 2:44:08.600 house crazy, yeah, affle House. 2:44:09.360 --> 2:44:11.080 I just played hooking the house music. 2:44:11.160 --> 2:44:17.080 Only take those braids out right now, put a little 2:44:17.120 --> 2:44:18.720 afro on, get your affrole house. 2:44:22.400 --> 2:44:23.760 I'm gonna take a shot to that. Hold on, this 2:44:23.800 --> 2:44:25.959 is empty, A shot of. 2:44:25.959 --> 2:44:31.400 That look like this ship is getting me nice. We 2:44:31.480 --> 2:44:33.440 gotta cut this interview off soon, yeah yeah. 2:44:35.160 --> 2:44:42.800 Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah enough man, listen, one main percent. 2:44:44.280 --> 2:44:47.720 You have everything to do with my career, which means 2:44:47.760 --> 2:44:49.600 you got everything to do with what we were built 2:44:49.720 --> 2:44:52.160 right here. You've been trying to get you here to 2:44:52.200 --> 2:44:54.600 give you your flowers a long time ago. I don't 2:44:54.640 --> 2:44:56.720 want you to feel like that. We like, you know, 2:44:57.160 --> 2:44:59.720 we tapped in and went so hard. It's because of 2:45:00.080 --> 2:45:03.680 what happened. You've been deserve your flowers. You've been deserved 2:45:03.800 --> 2:45:05.560 this love. You've been deserved. 2:45:05.680 --> 2:45:07.320 No, you've been trying to get me since twenty eighteen. 2:45:07.400 --> 2:45:08.080 That's what I remember. 2:45:08.440 --> 2:45:08.840 You've been. 2:45:11.320 --> 2:45:13.680 You know, you know, to hear these stories and here 2:45:13.840 --> 2:45:16.440 like you know, you put in you know, your people 2:45:16.520 --> 2:45:19.160 in front of you, it's inspiring. It's something that I 2:45:19.320 --> 2:45:22.240 do a lot, but it's something like this. It's more 2:45:22.320 --> 2:45:24.800 inspiring to hear it. You know, come from a DJ 2:45:25.000 --> 2:45:27.640 perspective like you know, even my DJ that's been my 2:45:27.760 --> 2:45:30.840 DJ for twenty years and he said, only two times 2:45:30.840 --> 2:45:32.840 I've been on Hot ninety seven is when the now 2:45:32.920 --> 2:45:34.840 thank you for that and when DJ enough. 2:45:34.760 --> 2:45:36.400 That's a prime I'm trying to put you off. But 2:45:36.480 --> 2:45:37.959 that's a prime example. 2:45:39.160 --> 2:45:41.520 Seven two times. And I don't know, remember because you 2:45:41.680 --> 2:45:44.320 do so much for everybody, your guys, you thank you 2:45:44.440 --> 2:45:52.320 have me hit it right here one. But that's a 2:45:52.360 --> 2:45:55.160 prime example that much. That's how it starts. 2:45:55.680 --> 2:45:58.680 Yeah, Because so I just want to say that you 2:45:58.760 --> 2:46:00.879 know what I'm saying right minding me of what I'm 2:46:00.920 --> 2:46:03.760 doing and what I'm doing on my side life. You 2:46:03.800 --> 2:46:05.680 know what I'm saying, And it's like, you know what, 2:46:06.360 --> 2:46:07.240 sometimes it's like that. 2:46:07.440 --> 2:46:09.560 Sometimes you got to put something before you, you know 2:46:09.600 --> 2:46:11.280 what I'm saying, in order for you to move forward. 2:46:11.720 --> 2:46:14.720 And you know, it was crazy because we're sitting around 2:46:14.760 --> 2:46:17.440 and I'm like, there's no better, guess man. 2:46:17.720 --> 2:46:20.320 We need we need, we need enough out here. You 2:46:20.360 --> 2:46:20.880 know what I'm saying. 2:46:21.120 --> 2:46:24.360 We need to give your flowers because one is long overdue. 2:46:24.840 --> 2:46:26.840 Two we want to know your side of the story. 2:46:26.959 --> 2:46:29.800 We didn't want to just base it on a side 2:46:29.879 --> 2:46:31.720 interview with you know, TMZ. 2:46:31.920 --> 2:46:34.280 And then you know you got this side and this side, 2:46:34.520 --> 2:46:36.920 and you know I basically messed with all sides. 2:46:36.959 --> 2:46:40.360 You know, I ain't mat at anybody, and I know 2:46:40.520 --> 2:46:42.280 that we don't want no beef or nothing. I know, 2:46:42.400 --> 2:46:44.680 this is no beef. We just want to continue the 2:46:45.040 --> 2:46:48.920 love the way we the way. This is a safe zone. 2:46:48.920 --> 2:46:49.880 I know this, So that's what. 2:46:50.360 --> 2:46:53.360 But but it's more about giving you your flowers more 2:46:53.440 --> 2:46:55.680 than it's about investigating your situation. 2:46:56.000 --> 2:46:58.960 That situation. You know, we get it. We understand that 2:46:59.040 --> 2:47:00.840 anybody could google it and see that. 2:47:01.080 --> 2:47:02.160 But that's not it. 2:47:02.879 --> 2:47:07.959 What is it is You've gave hip hop so much personally. 2:47:08.000 --> 2:47:10.080 You gave me so much, you gave Joe so much, 2:47:10.120 --> 2:47:12.320 you gave college so much. That's why it was easy 2:47:12.800 --> 2:47:15.840 for when they said, you know, in thirty seconds, you 2:47:15.920 --> 2:47:18.400 know we're gonna put together something for you enough and 2:47:18.520 --> 2:47:20.720 everyone came out to you. So I want to salute 2:47:20.720 --> 2:47:23.360 you face to face, man, the man you know, eye 2:47:23.440 --> 2:47:25.880 to eye, and let you know that what you've done 2:47:26.280 --> 2:47:29.800 for me personally, you know, I know I've been I 2:47:29.959 --> 2:47:31.640 know there's been times I've been yo. 2:47:31.720 --> 2:47:34.440 You know land Like yo, I just landed, man? Please? 2:47:34.600 --> 2:47:35.640 Like what do you do it? 2:47:35.920 --> 2:47:35.960 Like? 2:47:36.200 --> 2:47:38.640 We hit the you and you shut the fuck up? 2:47:39.040 --> 2:47:41.280 Go on and you'll play my records like all the time. 2:47:41.680 --> 2:47:43.400 And I know if I'm doing it, I know how 2:47:43.959 --> 2:47:47.720 much other people is is and how much you contributed 2:47:47.760 --> 2:47:50.280 to hip hop, Like even Flex. I heard Flex say 2:47:50.560 --> 2:47:52.640 man enough, it was like the first person I seen 2:47:52.720 --> 2:47:54.120 you two or three parties in. 2:47:54.200 --> 2:47:59.000 The same night. Eli. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. 2:47:59.000 --> 2:48:01.040 I'm just saying, like and now that's the tradition. 2:48:01.280 --> 2:48:05.200 So we us at drink Chat really wanted to give 2:48:05.240 --> 2:48:08.440 your flowers and tell you how much you mean, tell 2:48:08.440 --> 2:48:08.680 you how. 2:48:15.200 --> 2:48:16.600 And for what you did. 2:48:17.520 --> 2:48:20.720 We are excited to see your next endeavor to where 2:48:20.720 --> 2:48:23.119 you're going from here. We know it's over. 2:48:23.240 --> 2:48:26.440 We know this is the next step on the next 2:48:26.520 --> 2:48:30.240 level of greatness, and we can't we can't wait to 2:48:30.280 --> 2:48:30.520 see it. 2:48:30.640 --> 2:48:33.240 So we're gonna take a couple of pictures and uh, 2:48:35.400 --> 2:48:38.320 we got it, got it, Okay, hold on, hold on, 2:48:38.360 --> 2:48:41.039 hold on giving people flowers. 2:48:54.000 --> 2:48:56.400 Right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. YouTube. 2:48:57.120 --> 2:48:59.480 And you know we're proud of YouTube, man, because as 2:48:59.520 --> 2:49:03.199 a queen's kid like like, man, you've got a sneaker store, telling. 2:49:03.000 --> 2:49:06.160 Them I got a sneaker store all the right, I 2:49:06.200 --> 2:49:09.600 almost touch a big loose shout to George. You know 2:49:09.800 --> 2:49:15.840 I also have a rest restaurants and queens one in Brooklyn, 2:49:15.879 --> 2:49:21.880 when Williamsburg one coming down the block in Winwood, opening 2:49:21.959 --> 2:49:26.759 up like now, heads up, yes, Rex. 2:49:26.920 --> 2:49:27.680 Shout to Anthony. 2:49:27.760 --> 2:49:29.600 And then I also have two other restaurants called Mojo 2:49:30.080 --> 2:49:33.840 and Foster, those Queens and Long Island and a and 2:49:33.920 --> 2:49:36.480 a piece of shot called Slice that I'm down with, 2:49:37.000 --> 2:49:40.040 ye you know. And everybody asked me, yo, how do 2:49:40.080 --> 2:49:40.240 you do? 2:49:40.760 --> 2:49:43.840 Listen, I don't cook. I don't cook. I'm not you know, 2:49:43.959 --> 2:49:47.280 I'm not. I'm part owner. You have last Yeah, I 2:49:47.320 --> 2:49:49.680 would never be able to run a place to do it. 2:49:49.840 --> 2:49:52.080 No, it's my owners that really got to get the 2:49:52.160 --> 2:49:54.760 flowers for that because they do the day to day 2:49:54.840 --> 2:49:57.640 and I'm just down with it. And I'm a partner, 2:49:57.800 --> 2:50:02.560 that's you know, and and and you know this, it's like, 2:50:02.840 --> 2:50:06.080 you know, I'm trying to trying to move out here 2:50:06.120 --> 2:50:10.000 and for my kids and that's it besides d Jane, which. 2:50:09.879 --> 2:50:11.040 Are the kids, bro, that's it? 2:50:11.400 --> 2:50:13.480 Which you know d Jane still in my hawk, like 2:50:14.040 --> 2:50:17.000 that's the number one priority. H Yo. 2:50:17.240 --> 2:50:25.440 This is crazy, Yo, well deserved, guys, brothers both deserve, 2:50:25.959 --> 2:50:29.279 bro Man, shout out to what the flowers. 2:50:33.040 --> 2:50:37.360 Who makes them? Shout out to them ladies and do 2:50:37.480 --> 2:50:39.000 it with the fly flowers. 2:50:39.120 --> 2:50:42.959 That's right, that's right. So before we get about here. 2:50:43.080 --> 2:50:47.400 You know, I'm gonna leave it to you. Is there 2:50:47.480 --> 2:50:51.080 anything you have to say to your fans, to the people, 2:50:53.600 --> 2:50:54.320 to anybody. 2:50:55.240 --> 2:50:58.120 I mean, honestly for an amazing run on the radio. 2:50:59.760 --> 2:51:02.720 But I know, I know you guys said blood work, blood, 2:51:02.760 --> 2:51:05.760 bloodshed and tears. But I have so much fun. It 2:51:05.800 --> 2:51:07.560 didn't even seem that. It didn't even seem like I 2:51:07.640 --> 2:51:10.800 was going to work. And I think the most important 2:51:10.840 --> 2:51:14.720 thing is I was ever to spread the love and 2:51:15.120 --> 2:51:17.480 give people like you a shot. If people like you 2:51:17.600 --> 2:51:20.720 a shot, if people like you are shot, give people 2:51:20.800 --> 2:51:22.960 like you are shat. That means a lot to me. 2:51:23.879 --> 2:51:28.480 And the fact that I can do it every continue, continue, 2:51:28.680 --> 2:51:31.320 That's that's the gist of it, you know. And now 2:51:31.320 --> 2:51:34.080 I want my son to carry the torch and it away, 2:51:34.440 --> 2:51:35.520 so I'm you know, I'm proud of it. 2:51:36.080 --> 2:51:39.519 Ain't your son manager Ice Spice, No, my son's. 2:51:39.320 --> 2:51:43.000 Producer for Ice Spice and a few other artists. He 2:51:43.080 --> 2:51:46.960 got the right us. Just did Chris Brown's latest single 2:51:47.879 --> 2:51:50.279 number which wouldn't want one number one already? 2:51:50.400 --> 2:51:57.320 Und Wow, my little guy on fire, He's on fire. 2:51:58.320 --> 2:52:02.320 You see how that works for making these plans. 2:52:02.600 --> 2:52:03.360 That's carma, bro. 2:52:04.000 --> 2:52:06.080 Great ship. That's it's supposed to happen. 2:52:06.200 --> 2:52:10.680 It's in the blood, in the blood, shut out, Big Spanish, 2:52:11.160 --> 2:52:12.279 Big Spanish. 2:52:12.520 --> 2:52:14.240 As shouts to fan Mas School because you gave me 2:52:14.320 --> 2:52:17.600 my name, Big Span, Big Spanish. 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