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Speaker 5: DJ e f N.
Speaker 6: This militias you all, Yeah, you have astry.
Speaker 3: Right now.
Speaker 7: We've been trying to get this brother for years. Right now,
Speaker 7: he's a talker to town.
Speaker 1: If you're a DJ, if you're lover of hip hop,
Speaker 1: if you're.
Speaker 7: A lover of the actual play of it and not
Speaker 7: a fan of the business. You're tuned into what's happening
Speaker 7: right now. But let's give you this brother's desography. His
Speaker 7: brother's a legend, he's an icon. He DJ for one
Speaker 7: of the most legends, one of the most notorious people
Speaker 7: in the world. I mean, this guy started out in
Speaker 7: nineteen ninety eight on the radio, years been doing it
Speaker 7: before that on the radio. And we see him pose
Speaker 7: out his show with one of the most passionate moments
Speaker 7: in hip hop I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: The people came out to support them. People are supporting them.
Speaker 7: We're gonna get to this, but these are legends of icon,
Speaker 7: have been doing this for well over thirty years.
Speaker 1: And we won't give him as flowers today.
Speaker 7: That's what our show is about, and today he will
Speaker 7: receive his flowers. In case you don't know what the
Speaker 7: fuck we talk about, we talked about one.
Speaker 1: Now, did y'all ever have beef? Because your names are similar.
Speaker 3: I'm just talking with you. I do like that. I
Speaker 3: haven't bvated my name a few times. E n F right, right,
Speaker 3: So I was like, maybe no beef though, right.
Speaker 1: Because what was your favorite what was your first hip
Speaker 1: hip hop name? What was it.
Speaker 3: You remember that? Come on, I know that.
Speaker 7: So listen We've been interviewing people for nine years and
Speaker 7: everyone has a whack hip hop and yes you can
Speaker 7: still use e wat right now, Like it's like, yeah,
Speaker 7: so what made you?
Speaker 1: What made you go with DJ?
Speaker 3: Enough? All right? So to be honest and Frank, I'm
Speaker 3: from the Lower East Side of Manhattan and then in
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy nine, I moved up an area called Flat Push, Brooklyn. Right,
Speaker 3: but you was born in Harlem.
Speaker 1: And you did your homewk yes, yes, yes for.
Speaker 3: Me coming out the projects to the Lower east Side, right,
Speaker 3: Lilian Wall projects, Jacob Bree, shots of them, I didn't
Speaker 3: see that many West Indian people. So I grew up
Speaker 3: a lot of West Indian people in my second half,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Being in Brooklyn and there
Speaker 3: was a famous uh this Jamaican dude name Ricky Barnett
Speaker 3: and Miguel Parkers. Those are my best friends in elementary
Speaker 3: school growing up and back in those days in the
Speaker 3: in the early eighties, everything was enough respect, enough this,
Speaker 3: enough that, right. So he was like, yo, your name
Speaker 3: is E whatever he goes, bit, why don't we just
Speaker 3: call you E Enough? Because you get enough respect every timewhere.
Speaker 3: So at first I was like, I don't know. Then
Speaker 3: somebody bought some marketing to me and said, you know
Speaker 3: what you could if you make a restaurant. Let's say
Speaker 3: you would open a Hamburger shop. You put enough burgers, yeah,
Speaker 3: enough clothing, enough liquor, enough smoke enough it works. So
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I'll roe whatever it, fuck.
Speaker 1: It, okay's now your first DJ gig was that?
Speaker 3: Then the Grill Club Club the Grill nineteen ninety whatever
Speaker 3: year hip hop Junkies came out. That was like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: I got a funky that was the hottest record already.
Speaker 3: I was ready DJ.
Speaker 1: So was the tone at that time.
Speaker 3: This is right and before the something okay cool, there
Speaker 3: was no Sunday nice to not yet okay.
Speaker 1: What's this Sunday nice and hip hop period not.
Speaker 3: Not to my recollection. I'm a newbie. I just found
Speaker 3: right because.
Speaker 7: The first time I ever Sunday, I thought I thought
Speaker 7: it was Latin quarters. Okay, I don't, I don't, I don't,
Speaker 7: I don't, I don't remember.
Speaker 3: Before my time, okay.
Speaker 7: Cool, cool, cool, all right now. I used to make
Speaker 7: pause tapes. Can you explain to people what poestapes is.
Speaker 3: All right, So before I had enough money to have equipment, equipment,
Speaker 3: we used to make these pause tapes. And back in
Speaker 3: everybody's household, we all had what's called bs R bullshit recording,
Speaker 3: you know, recording capability. So it'd be a double deck,
Speaker 3: you know, because and you would play your source from
Speaker 3: one cassette would be the recording for another, and you
Speaker 3: would only record the portions that you want so our
Speaker 3: press play, you press record here, and then you pause it.
Speaker 3: But you had to be nice with it. So that's
Speaker 3: what the DJ stuff kicks in, because you know I've
Speaker 3: seen you know, to break that is in the firm biz.
Speaker 1: No, no, okay, okay, I was thinking about action first.
Speaker 3: But I'm talking with that joint right. It's by Malcolm McLaren.
Speaker 3: That little piece is only like about ten seconds long,
Speaker 3: right yo, my man, The original to that is even
Speaker 3: less than that. We would take that little piece and
Speaker 3: do a whole ninety minute mix of just that one
Speaker 3: B and then we go through the street with it
Speaker 3: and then play it outside and it'd be like all
Speaker 3: day the same ship over and then the B boys
Speaker 3: would come and start doing that thing and you know,
Speaker 3: and dancing, you know, the gangs would be like yo crazy.
Speaker 3: It was the cardboard yeah all that. Yeah, so I'm
Speaker 3: a bounce around a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah baby, do you thing?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 7: So this is something I always wanted to ask you.
Speaker 7: How accurate was the Biggie movie?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 7: But I believe that it was in San Francisco or
Speaker 7: and it was still on some things at them because
Speaker 7: of who shot you?
Speaker 3: But I said not to play who shot you? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 3: that wasn't okay. I'll tell you the truth. I can't
Speaker 3: tell you. So this one of this cameras, no scene
Speaker 3: portrayed in the movie was was saying it was uh
Speaker 3: in the in the Bay area, okay, right, but it
Speaker 3: wasn't okay. And then the reason why they probably put
Speaker 3: it in the Bay because that's where Park was from. Okay. Now,
Speaker 3: during this time, I remember, like it was yesterday, we
Speaker 3: were in Atlanta, Georgia. We were going to a social
Speaker 3: death anniversary party of some sort and we were gonna
Speaker 3: meet up with Jamaine Deprie, the Brat and a few others.
Speaker 3: And there was word that Tupac was around in Atlanta, right, Okay,
Speaker 3: So now like we're on heightened security because these dudes
Speaker 3: got beef and it's ugly. I'm in the car with
Speaker 3: like little ceas BIG's in the front. I remember bodyguards
Speaker 3: being on top of us and at one point were
Speaker 3: driving in the a somewhere. We're driving around and then
Speaker 3: the security was like get down, and I'm like, what's
Speaker 3: going on and get down? Then he jumped on top
Speaker 3: of my body and I'm like what. I thought it
Speaker 3: was gonna start shooting at us or something, but I
Speaker 3: guess they were just on high alert. Where the cars
Speaker 3: we become a bid and they got like some information,
Speaker 3: But that's that's not it was in the Bay. It
Speaker 3: was Atlanta. So during the height of the beef right,
Speaker 3: everybody from Brooklyn to Junior Mafia, everybody was waiting for
Speaker 3: a response Big because you know, pock had didn't hit
Speaker 3: him up, and and for me, I took it super personal.
Speaker 3: You know why, because I produced to Get Money remix
Speaker 3: for Big R and Pac took the same beat right
Speaker 3: from the Get Money remix that I produced and hit
Speaker 3: him up. And the crazy part, that's crazy. I didn't
Speaker 3: think of it like CZ. I didn't realize it until
Speaker 3: I did a podcast with Cypher Sounds of Rosi and
Speaker 3: they broke it that and I was like, damn, you're right,
Speaker 3: And then like twenty five years later, I was mad again.
Speaker 3: But it was it was it was like bittersweet because, like,
Speaker 3: you know, Park was such a legendary dude, and I'm
Speaker 3: be on like thirsty to be on the phone with him,
Speaker 3: to be like, yo, what's up pot Because he loved
Speaker 3: New York. He loved the bodegas.
Speaker 1: He loved them a little, you know, but let's let's
Speaker 1: talk about that nice.
Speaker 7: So well, yeah, so they were mad at Big on stage.
Speaker 3: They would know nobody was ever mad at Big. Okay,
Speaker 3: I think the the real important thing was this, So
Speaker 3: I'm on the road with them now. I got the
Speaker 3: torch passed from Clark Kent. Clark Kent, Clark Kent. Excuse me.
Speaker 3: He taught me the show, so it was only right.
Speaker 3: Just all I had to do is carry the legacy.
Speaker 3: He was DJ before you. Yes, of course he was
Speaker 3: doing uh A and R for like East West Atlantic.
Speaker 3: He was signing an artist, but he was also doing
Speaker 3: production and beats and you know he was doing the
Speaker 3: Brooklyn finals on Jay and Biggs album. You know, he
Speaker 3: was busy. So I think it got to a point
Speaker 3: where he's like, you know what, I'm getting hot out
Speaker 3: here and I love being on the road with Big,
Speaker 3: but I gotta go right. So that's when you know,
Speaker 3: I got the phone call from Puff like you want
Speaker 3: to be bigs DJ, And I was like, I think
Speaker 3: about it, And everybody laughs at me when I tell
Speaker 3: him that responds.
Speaker 1: Because Big wasn't who Big was at that time.
Speaker 3: Big only had party in bullshit out maybe Unbelievable and Juicy.
Speaker 4: Was he still Biggie Small before he changed the names
Speaker 4: of Notorious.
Speaker 3: No, he was still Biggie Smalls. He was notorious yet,
Speaker 3: right right right. So we're in Atlanta and we stopped
Speaker 3: doing the We stopped doing the song who Shot You?
Speaker 3: Like my dad faced him hot? So we stopped performing
Speaker 3: that song. And I think we stopped performing that song
Speaker 3: because Big didn't want the narrative that people were thinking
Speaker 3: the song was about, because it was out of respect
Speaker 3: the kid. The kid got shot, you know a few times,
Speaker 3: and then when he died, it was like the ultimately like, no,
Speaker 3: we're not doing that. So we was in Atlanta that time.
Speaker 3: I told you we was on heightened security alert. Whatever
Speaker 3: we do the show and there's a break in the
Speaker 3: show where he starts talking. I'm like, where's he going
Speaker 3: with this? I never did this is not part of
Speaker 3: the show. We never did this before. And he's explaining
Speaker 3: himself about I guess what him a part, what was
Speaker 3: going through? So I was like, he's gonna perform who
Speaker 3: shot You? Wow? So then without him telling me nothing,
Speaker 3: I got the record out and then I just had
Speaker 3: a queue up and ready, and he looked at me
Speaker 3: and it was like and I went who shot You?
Speaker 3: And he performed out of nowhere. It was the first
Speaker 3: time he got to perform that, you know, during the
Speaker 3: beef R. So for us, it was like a magical moment,
Speaker 3: even though it wasn't his true response, but it was
Speaker 3: the next next thing because he wasn't gonna talk dirty
Speaker 3: about Park right.
Speaker 5: But to be clear, because it was before par got shot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a baby because we said, I wanted
Speaker 3: people to think it happened right then.
Speaker 7: Did you ever I know you said, I know I
Speaker 7: read articles and seen interviews what you said that there
Speaker 7: was brawls happening, like you know, running with big and.
Speaker 3: Things like that.
Speaker 7: I think one time they even left you and you
Speaker 7: had to come outside of.
Speaker 3: The ques that was in Virginia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you had to like they.
Speaker 3: All, you know, back in the days when we used
Speaker 3: to carry the crates, right, but even before that, before
Speaker 3: controllers and cdj's were around, we used to carry the turntable.
Speaker 3: So I got two turntables, a mixer, all my crates,
Speaker 3: and I'm by myself. I ain't got a roadie. He's
Speaker 3: not paying for Roady. So it's like, you know, the
Speaker 3: road manager shout to Hawk, my man Hawk. He would
Speaker 3: help me sometime with the records and whatever. Whenever there
Speaker 3: wasn't feeling, whenever they felt like there was a superstar,
Speaker 3: they help me with the records. But we get into
Speaker 3: some ship. It's going down. They fighting, Oh, they doing
Speaker 3: whatever they're doing. But they forgot about me and they
Speaker 3: would leave me. I'm like, yo, So now I'm slowly
Speaker 3: trying to pack up all my ship before the ship
Speaker 3: really hits the fan. I'm like closing up the cases.
Speaker 3: I'm trying whatever I said. Yo. If I don't get
Speaker 3: the fuck up out of here, they gonna come for
Speaker 3: me next. And that's the type of that was. That
Speaker 3: was the real ship. That's the way it was a
Speaker 3: lot of shows bro A lot of.
Speaker 8: Shows make some noise. But it was fun. Man, Now
Speaker 8: we think about it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 7: But like when you speak speak about crates like, I
Speaker 7: don't think these kids like like, I'm sorry, this sounds
Speaker 7: the old band, but you know, like that shit was hard.
Speaker 7: Like I remember, like watching you guys go to a party,
Speaker 7: used to have to have to have people help you.
Speaker 3: With your crates. Five six dudes or whatever or actually,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep it on hunted. I was flying, but
Speaker 3: a few times I would do parties of town. But
Speaker 3: I have six women carrying my trade in high heels,
Speaker 3: right and then and then when I come to the party,
Speaker 3: the promoters be on my dick. They'd be like, motherfucker.
Speaker 3: We'll talk six feet women in dresses or skirts with
Speaker 3: heels on carrying my crates. Now, these ain't milk crates.
Speaker 3: These are professional like cases. Get a little bit easier
Speaker 3: to carry, heaviest hell one hundred pounds easy.
Speaker 7: So, as a DJ, do you like this era more
Speaker 7: or do you miss the vinyl era?
Speaker 3: I missed the vinyl era a little bit, okay, but
Speaker 3: I do like the technology where it's had today. You
Speaker 3: know why, because I remember being on the road and
Speaker 3: Biggie would shake the fucking stage and the record would skip,
Speaker 3: and I would get blamed for it, because at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, he's the boss, he's the headliner.
Speaker 3: It said they came to see him, not me, So
Speaker 3: I had to take the blame for that. And then
Speaker 3: Clarke Can't had to teach me how to do a
Speaker 3: backup show that way I heard that or CD or whatever,
Speaker 3: okay whatever, yeah it was it was that originally. And
Speaker 3: then holy ship, I forgot his name. He's gonna be
Speaker 3: mad at me now. Producer from Guy try Wiley, Teddy Riley.
Speaker 3: Teddy Riley gives me my first c d J. He goes, enough,
Speaker 3: this is the future. Like, what do you mean? He goes,
Speaker 3: this is never going to skip on you ever. Again,
Speaker 3: this is the fucking future right here. He gave me
Speaker 3: a pair of c d j's and I was like,
Speaker 3: but those skip two though, no, I know, but not
Speaker 3: but not as bad, but not as bad as needles
Speaker 3: as the needles on the record?
Speaker 1: Now, what was it? Flip Star DJs, Flip Squad, Flip
Speaker 1: Squad djsh Yeah, and I was you Cipher Sounds was
Speaker 1: in the same Yeah, who else was in that crew?
Speaker 3: Frankie Cutlers, Frankie Cutlers, Dup do Funk Flex Yeah flex uh,
Speaker 3: Mark Ronson, Mike Ronson was in riz thank you. Oh
Speaker 3: ship comes here? Trying to think who was here?
Speaker 4: Bro?
Speaker 1: Who else was in there?
Speaker 4: It was?
Speaker 3: So it was flip.
Speaker 9: Squad, the Flip Squad, DJ, the flip Squad and this
Speaker 9: is before buster have flip Squad or no, Yeah, flip mode,
Speaker 9: flip Mode, slip modem bugging different things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, flip flip Squad. Okay, okay, make some noise.
Speaker 3: With DJ, so okay, be me a warning cup, bro.
Speaker 1: Okay, So who else was okay? Who else was down
Speaker 1: down on that?
Speaker 3: Okay? Sight for sounds? This kid named bud kN Uh.
Speaker 3: There's there's a couple more. I'm forgetting them. But the
Speaker 3: big Cat, Big Cat, rest in peace, Big Cat. Oh
Speaker 3: that's right? Uh damn you know what. Let me just
Speaker 3: look at the artwork of the album we put out.
Speaker 3: It's on there. Okay, so go for it, go for it.
Speaker 7: One thing that was noticed very Kanye's first album, Yes
Speaker 7: has the heavy hitter logo on there. Yes, sir, Now,
Speaker 7: remember I mean knowing who Kanye is, but me not.
Speaker 3: Knowing who Kanye is.
Speaker 7: And I remember you shotting them out and then him
Speaker 7: shotting y'all out, like like really like bigging up the
Speaker 7: heavy hitters.
Speaker 3: How the fuck did that even happen? All right? So
Speaker 3: I ain't know it at the time, okay, but I
Speaker 3: had a heavy hitter's record pool, okay. And the office
Speaker 3: was on thirty eighth Street. It was Rene McLean's office,
Speaker 3: the guy who created to make Sure Right right, But
Speaker 3: Legacy Studios was down the block on thirty eighth between
Speaker 3: tenth and eleventh or whatever it was. That's where he
Speaker 3: recorded his first album. And what year was that. It
Speaker 3: had to be ninety nine, ninety eight. So all this time,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, Yo, Kanye, this think is on my dick.
Speaker 3: He got a sorry talk.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is the way he was the.
Speaker 3: Damn. I gotta wait, So you text the queen till
Speaker 3: I fall back.
Speaker 7: So you're telling me, so you're telling me you had
Speaker 7: to heard of him.
Speaker 3: So I heard of him as a producer as a producer, okay,
Speaker 3: So this's no through wire, No yeah, not yet, not yet.
Speaker 3: But I was talking it was on his way go
Speaker 3: Ahead and one of my DJ's DJ absolutely put on
Speaker 3: a mixtape on him like a first freestyle, because nobody else,
Speaker 3: nobody else will put his freestyles out.
Speaker 1: So absolutely was the first time people never might have
Speaker 1: ha been.
Speaker 7: The first time they heard Kanye whatever Okaya queen.
Speaker 3: Now back in these days, we were at the damn
Speaker 3: what was the what was the studios that that O
Speaker 3: g one and Jason Baseline. He was at Baseline a lot.
Speaker 3: So this is where I knew from Kanye as a
Speaker 3: producer because just Blaze being in the room, Kanye being another,
Speaker 3: or they'd be both in that pre production room, you know,
Speaker 3: just banging out beats, banging out beats. I was tied
Speaker 3: with Jaco all the time because Jaco put out a
Speaker 3: mixtape and I will be there hanging and everybody in
Speaker 3: the roster is arguing with Kanye because they want to
Speaker 3: be from him. Okay, but like, yo, don't make a
Speaker 3: beef for me, man, stop playing, you know with Jim
Speaker 3: Cam Beanie Bleak. Everyone talked to him like that, and
Speaker 3: it was like it to me, it was like the
Speaker 3: like the mad scientists behind the drum machine. You know,
Speaker 3: he had ideas, he always wanted a rap, but I
Speaker 3: felt like nobody was giving him a shot. Maybe maybe
Speaker 3: because he over delivered in his delivery or something, and
Speaker 3: it was like, I don't know, it might have been
Speaker 3: too much for me at the time. That's from what
Speaker 3: I remember, Okay, And then.
Speaker 1: How does it go from that to then he then
Speaker 1: he then he produces the Blueprint and.
Speaker 3: Now now no no, but now Damon Demon and Jay
Speaker 3: and them, they signed him as a producer. But I'm
Speaker 3: starting to notice like he's been signed for a while,
Speaker 3: but there's students, there's still nothing on him. So I'm like,
Speaker 3: what's the problem. So in my mind, and I can't
Speaker 3: prove it, because that's my famous word right now, I can't.
Speaker 10: That.
Speaker 3: Uh, maybe did help him because you did just want
Speaker 3: to Lockerman as a producer. I mean, he did produce
Speaker 3: The Blueprint, one of the greatest hip hop albums right right.
Speaker 3: So anyway, I'm at the office in a record pool
Speaker 3: and I'm tighted with Common, I'm tighted with Tyler Quality,
Speaker 3: and these dudes keep coming to the office. They were enough,
Speaker 3: you know, and and they heavily coming by because we
Speaker 3: got a little studio Peo production studio up there at
Speaker 3: the office, and I would do a lot of mixtapes
Speaker 3: me and cast one. So then yeah, he's bothering me
Speaker 3: on something like you don't want to be a heavy hitter,
Speaker 3: so he would now. Stupid me didn't realize where this
Speaker 3: could go. It's too early, you know. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 3: my man, you got it.
Speaker 7: Like he's approached you as a heavy head, as a
Speaker 7: producer or as.
Speaker 3: An actual man. He's just want to I don't want
Speaker 3: to be a heavy here that I'm like, yo, man,
Speaker 3: I don't got no artists as a heavy head. We
Speaker 3: have DJ Clarer, Okay, you can't even DJ. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: I make these banking beats. And then that man. If
Speaker 3: I knew what I'd do back then, I would have
Speaker 3: signed them to a fifty million. I had no idea,
Speaker 3: no idea, make some lawyers for that man. But it
Speaker 3: ended up happening, right, He ended up well technically Yeah.
Speaker 3: Then uh, me and my man A G put out
Speaker 3: his Get Home or Welcome Home mixtape, and I remember
Speaker 3: going to the stores with him on the road because
Speaker 3: he wanted to know how we did the runs with
Speaker 3: the mixtape. We went to the Africans and Canal, We
Speaker 3: went to the Bronx, We went to all the all
Speaker 3: the mixtapes and record shops that would sell mixtapes, and
Speaker 3: I was trying to push Kanye's tape. Nobody wanted it,
Speaker 3: damn nobody. But as I'm starting to play a ship
Speaker 3: on the radio, I'm playing the good, the bad, the
Speaker 3: ugly with consequence to him. I'm playing two words by him,
Speaker 3: most definitely the Harlem Boys choir. I'm starting to play
Speaker 3: some joints that ain't been really released yet. When I
Speaker 3: dropped that Jesus Walks, you know, the mixtape went on fire. Yo,
Speaker 3: I need more of those mixtapes. So you said you
Speaker 3: want nothing, Now we want them. So I remember I
Speaker 3: probably had like about a good fifteen checks for Kanye,
Speaker 3: noting nothing big, but just you know, the first couple
Speaker 3: of orders, people wanted the tapes, and he was like,
Speaker 3: now I want the money. Just thank you for you know,
Speaker 3: pushing me and taking care of me, what else whatever,
Speaker 3: And out of nowhere he asked me for my logo.
Speaker 3: And then I thought he was gonna put a mixtape
Speaker 3: out of something, and he puts his ship on the album.
Speaker 3: I didn't give him, yo, I ain't giving no permission.
Speaker 3: I didn't say, yeah, you have to declaimen to put
Speaker 3: this on. But after it was the biggest honor in
Speaker 3: the world, like this dude is getting. Then on top
Speaker 3: of that, he made and then on top of that,
Speaker 3: to make it even better, him and GLC make a
Speaker 3: record call heavy Hitters for Life Wow, the B side
Speaker 3: of uh, Jesus walks if I'm not mistaken, and he
Speaker 3: says heavy Hitters for Live Rockefeller or Live. Then he
Speaker 3: starts breaking it down, you know, and it's kind of dope,
Speaker 3: but signed very like this. This dude is nuts. He's crazy.
Speaker 3: And after that he got Kim Kardashian and I never
Speaker 3: saw him. We never went on to get I lost
Speaker 3: my friend.
Speaker 1: But so, uh yeah, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3: You gotta drink amelo, you need something?
Speaker 1: Sure, come have a drink.
Speaker 4: Sunlight Yeah yeah, yeah, little something, a little taste my cup.
Speaker 3: Want you doing that? We got saki, you.
Speaker 11: Want sack, tequila, tequila, poppy.
Speaker 3: We can drink Branson Steef. We got Branson. Yeah, We'll
Speaker 3: get your sunlight whatever, whatever I drink, whatever, What do
Speaker 3: we have?
Speaker 1: He said something like, and he says toquila when.
Speaker 3: He's you don't drink what he's drinking the blue label.
Speaker 3: I'm down, I'm down living some blue label. I'm not
Speaker 3: drinking out about it.
Speaker 5: Or you could drink some Volly vodka Pulls vodka.
Speaker 4: I got plenty of that shot the bo yeah up
Speaker 4: a bit, Yeah, yeah, that's fine, that's fine. Okay, I
Speaker 4: was gonna go if you're looking, I want to go,
Speaker 4: because we're skating them around things and we're not.
Speaker 3: Really going back both for it.
Speaker 4: Man, So let's go back to how you even get
Speaker 4: that phone call from Puff to spin for Big, Like,
Speaker 4: what's that relationship?
Speaker 3: How does that get?
Speaker 7: Because I heard somewhere that you actually played Biggs album.
Speaker 1: On Kiss Up and Puff caught you flipping on you.
Speaker 3: Hurged me the fuck out, so and Puff you know
Speaker 3: this is true, so you're mad. So I'm gonna bring
Speaker 3: it back to the essence. Right on fourth on thirteenth
Speaker 3: Street and Park Avenue in the city was a club
Speaker 3: called the Black Fussy Cat.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, when I came out here, we had one
Speaker 1: out here.
Speaker 3: Right because later on it was called Swaye. So I
Speaker 3: knew this. I knew the motors and the bounces of club.
Speaker 3: Now Big was trying to get in the club with
Speaker 3: MP and it wasn't letting them in the club. But
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, you guys think it's just some
Speaker 3: goons from Brooklyn, but they're actually recording artists, the cool people,
Speaker 3: and I promise you they won't get into no trouble.
Speaker 3: So I went to the to the promoters and to
Speaker 3: the security guys, and I told them, you know, let's
Speaker 3: let these guys and they're good people. And Big love
Speaker 3: that I did that for him. So on the way
Speaker 3: out we leaving, Big push me to the side, like, yo,
Speaker 3: he this for you. This is my album. Nobody got
Speaker 3: it yet and this was the real album. Yes, no,
Speaker 3: it was, but it was on a rough It was
Speaker 3: on a TDK.
Speaker 1: Okay it was.
Speaker 3: So he gets just me in a cassette and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I ain't really paying no mind. You know, it might
Speaker 3: have been on Tuesday or Wednesday, and then not not
Speaker 3: not to Thursday. I realized, you know, I got this
Speaker 3: guy's album. But to put it in content.
Speaker 4: What records did he have out already partying bullshit?
Speaker 3: Partying with a super Cat? Had the Mary Jay record? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Only two or three? Yeah, So the buzz was on
Speaker 3: him already even when he dropped this party and bullshit,
Speaker 3: the buzz was already on him because he had a
Speaker 3: special voice. So back in those days, you know as
Speaker 3: DJ is a thirsty They played new Ship, right, So
Speaker 3: I go to my guy, his name is Chris Paccardo,
Speaker 3: shot to him and I think he helped me clean
Speaker 3: up the majority of the album on the cassette and
Speaker 3: he gives it back to me. Some records you put
Speaker 3: in the system. That means like on the radio station.
Speaker 3: We have a thing that's called the system, which is
Speaker 3: like their computer, not not a cassette. I don't see
Speaker 3: the in the computer. So at any moment, I could
Speaker 3: just pick whatever record and it's like I could play
Speaker 3: a bomb or something, and then we go right into
Speaker 3: a record off the album. So we did this multiple
Speaker 3: times throughout the night, and and and back. Then Supernatural
Speaker 3: was my.
Speaker 12: Host DJ, and I don't even know that yeah real
Speaker 12: hip hop, right, it's the real yippire.
Speaker 3: So I'm playing it, playing it, and it gets to
Speaker 3: a point where like the hotline rings or the red
Speaker 3: the red the red phone whatever that is like a
Speaker 3: special line, special line whatever. The voss is usually called
Speaker 3: hold you on this line. So I pick it up
Speaker 3: Hope for Hope for Diddy, a hope of hope of Puff.
Speaker 3: I don't think he was Diddy yet, so I was like,
Speaker 3: what up. He's like, Yo, what the fuck are you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm in celebration mode. I'm happy my man
Speaker 3: Big gave me the album I'm in MO. It was
Speaker 3: about Brooklyn confidant. I'm on a radio, I'm shutting the
Speaker 3: city fucking down. So I'm thinking he's calling on it
Speaker 3: to say thank you. I see what you're doing. He's like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck are you doing. I'm like, like Jackie glicaid,
Speaker 3: I was like, I didn't know what to say. So,
Speaker 3: when you think about it today, I didn't know what
Speaker 3: it meant for an for a label to roll out
Speaker 3: a single, roll out a project, what kind of money
Speaker 3: was involved. It was poster boards, it was stickers, whether
Speaker 3: it was a deal with a radio station, you know,
Speaker 3: a touring situation. I didn't have no idea what any
Speaker 3: of that was, so I might have screwed that up.
Speaker 3: It's a big right, So he's cursing me out, I'll
Speaker 3: kill you, motherfucker mob here like, uh, the music is
Speaker 3: in the background, but he's he's clearly in my ear
Speaker 3: killing me.
Speaker 1: He's still playing the record. Give me the business.
Speaker 3: And then I don't see him for like weeks months,
Speaker 3: nothing and I'll bumping him the club nothing and then
Speaker 3: I go to this uh ninety seven used to have
Speaker 3: this thing called a Player's Ball, Okay, yeah, I remember
Speaker 3: that it was, but the same thing as it was
Speaker 3: very so it was there. It was their interpretation of
Speaker 3: what they would maybe tell the listeners to play a ball.
Speaker 3: Used to like host a couple of times, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: so that was hosted by our station at the time.
Speaker 3: It was it was ed lover Miss Jones.
Speaker 1: Me.
Speaker 3: And then I remember like Angie Martinez coming through school,
Speaker 3: Coco Chanel, Jazzy Joyce, that was like the vibe. And
Speaker 3: I see him in the hallway because that same weekend
Speaker 3: that we're doing this Player's Ball is some sort of
Speaker 3: signing or some sort of party, maybe a listening playback
Speaker 3: or press release something from Mary J. Blige My Life's album.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, oh shit. He goes pumps, so I'm like,
Speaker 3: I haven't seen him since he cursed me the funk out.
Speaker 3: So then he's like, yo, let me talk to you
Speaker 3: some over here, like oh ship here comes to bullshit
Speaker 3: and he flips it on me and he's like, yall
Speaker 3: want you to go on the road with b I G.
Speaker 3: What you think. Hm, I'm like the change of course.
Speaker 3: You know, I thought he was mad, but she was
Speaker 3: an He's like, yo, are you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm like, huh, like I'm stuck on stupid now because
Speaker 3: I don't. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready for that.
Speaker 3: He does, I want you to go on the road.
Speaker 3: But we're big, So I was like, big, I just
Speaker 3: got my radio, gig, got kissed. I'm feeling myself so like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, let me think about it. He says, what,
Speaker 3: she didn't even think about it. So I think you
Speaker 3: might have say, like you a wild boy or some ship,
Speaker 3: I don't know whatever. That sounds like him, But I
Speaker 3: kept it moving. And you know, I guess him and
Speaker 3: uh him and him and Jessica Rosevel Bloom are real tight.
Speaker 3: And I guess, yeah, she ran the tunnel. She ran
Speaker 3: them some squad DJs. Mhm mhmm. Yeah, So I guess
Speaker 3: they got to talking and then she came back around
Speaker 3: to me, was like, yo, I think you should do it.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah. I said, I tried it out,
Speaker 3: tried it out, had a great time, changed my life. Yes,
Speaker 3: that's the one gig that I did that people to
Speaker 3: this day still ask the most question, what's about Well
Speaker 3: big big did.
Speaker 7: Now it was like a monumental thing that happened in
Speaker 7: radio right before we get to what's happening right nowadays.
Speaker 1: Was back in the days, well not back in the days.
Speaker 7: But when Angie Martinez announced that when she was leaving
Speaker 7: Hot seven, like that ship was like it was like
Speaker 7: a blow to everyone because I mean me personally.
Speaker 3: Broke my heart broke that day.
Speaker 7: I was like, oh, so, so you didn't you didn't
Speaker 7: know prior to this, like keep it real, No, I didn't, you.
Speaker 3: Didn't she said, She said, she called my phone, but
Speaker 3: my number's been a safe I love you. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't remember getting a phone call. I don't think anybody.
Speaker 3: And maybe she was smart because she was moving in
Speaker 3: silence smart and she couldn't probably tell nobody, you know,
Speaker 3: that's just part of the deal. So we had accepted.
Speaker 3: So when she left, I was like, good fun man.
Speaker 13: She did that with elegance, right, she did that execution
Speaker 13: that building that day was like mouth drop.
Speaker 3: You know why she did it right? She didn't cried
Speaker 3: like me.
Speaker 14: Shout age many but I didn't see anything you did
Speaker 14: for thirty years anything. Yeah, rap, Yeah, the reports didn't
Speaker 14: take thirty years to make.
Speaker 7: The boy report is almost thirty years old because in
Speaker 7: twenty seven, but it didn't take you thirty years to
Speaker 7: make it.
Speaker 3: Do you understand my point?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But it's the same ship. I mean, I've got
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 3: I feel you, I feel you. We're gonna get it,
Speaker 3: We're gonna get this.
Speaker 7: But what we talked about was just so into that
Speaker 7: what happened. Yes, so I remember, you know, and this
Speaker 7: is this is not the same. But I remember like
Speaker 7: me being in depth, Jam and Leo all knowing he leaving.
Speaker 7: He would walk around different, right, like like I was
Speaker 7: there like three days straight and I would look at
Speaker 7: you could tell like he was hiding something, right because
Speaker 7: he can't legally tell anybody I'm leaving.
Speaker 1: You understand was that no one never knew that about it,
Speaker 1: or like no one had no clue.
Speaker 13: Okay, so I think everybody knew at the same time
Speaker 13: that day.
Speaker 7: Now, how did it happen that, you guys know, she
Speaker 7: announced it on the station.
Speaker 3: She made an announcement. I forgot she made an email
Speaker 3: phone call. But yeah, it's like if I did find out.
Speaker 3: It was literally the same day.
Speaker 13: What I remember she made her like everybody pulled up
Speaker 13: and she made that announcement and it was like balloons
Speaker 13: and cakes and all types of.
Speaker 3: Now letting the Mary J. Bloge came. Taraji p Henson came, right,
Speaker 3: I'm p Henson like just who are you guys going
Speaker 3: to be? Okay, there's gonna be better things for you.
Speaker 13: And everybody pulled up and she didn't tell a war
Speaker 13: what what she was doing. She's like, yah, just you know,
Speaker 13: I'm done, done that. I'm leaving my last day. But
Speaker 13: you know, everybody came to celebrate her. Everybody's crying. The
Speaker 13: whole station pulled up, facts, the phone calls.
Speaker 3: Every artist calling.
Speaker 13: It was a celebration, you know, but the city was hurt, like,
Speaker 13: oh my god.
Speaker 3: How ninety seven is over? It's over?
Speaker 13: Like you know that's the that was the queen, like
Speaker 13: a voice in New York like, so yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was. That was tough. That was tough.
Speaker 1: Okay. Now you know if you used to work on
Speaker 1: the Star in work Wow.
Speaker 7: Show yes sir, and I believe you quick, yeah, And
Speaker 7: that's how you got your own slot, right, Well, something
Speaker 7: like that.
Speaker 1: Something like that. I'm I'm so.
Speaker 7: This is this is something you've probably never been asked before,
Speaker 7: Like how did you feel when Envy left the station
Speaker 7: and started the breakfast cloud.
Speaker 3: I was like, great for him, Okay, I was okay,
Speaker 3: I was happy for Well. People don't seem to understand, right,
Speaker 3: just because Envy's at the other station doesn't mean he's
Speaker 3: not my guy. That's my guy. I got sick in
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, had a stroke and I was fucked up.
Speaker 3: And Envy was the one who calls this guy and says, yo,
Speaker 3: we don't know what enough situation is. His monetary situation is.
Speaker 3: He might be fucked up. You know, he's not doing gigs,
Speaker 3: he's not outside. He might he might whatever. And then
Speaker 3: I started getting this is like during the cash at
Speaker 3: venmo Era, I started getting old this thing and I'm like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck is this? I called this dude, like, yo,
Speaker 3: why in by sending me money? That we spoke to Envy.
Speaker 3: Envy brought it up and I was like, look, the
Speaker 3: competition is calling to help and send love. I thought
Speaker 3: I was the most incredible SHITNK. Not my best friend,
Speaker 3: but not somebody I'll do up with.
Speaker 13: But real talk, real talk like there was never when
Speaker 13: he went over there, we was always cool. Nothing changed.
Speaker 13: I used to I used to do the show like
Speaker 13: on Sundays. I used to don't show envy and we
Speaker 13: used to be on then I used to hop on
Speaker 13: right after. So we were like always seeing each other
Speaker 13: every weekend. When he went over there, they was to love.
Speaker 1: No, but I'm gonna be honest. Let me just be honest.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 7: At one point, it was just Hot ninety seven, right, yeah,
Speaker 7: so if you didn't get Hot ninety seven, your ass
Speaker 7: was finished.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 7: Power went on five came option kind of even the
Speaker 7: playing field. The problem was when they first came, they
Speaker 7: didn't have no players from Hot ninety seven.
Speaker 3: No, So when Envy game, I felt like it. So
Speaker 3: I think I think Clue was first. Yes, I don't
Speaker 3: remember the old I think Clue went first.
Speaker 1: Cool, No, No, it had to be the brother Stu first.
Speaker 3: He might he might know this. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: think we went first. Okay, I think Clue made them
Speaker 3: move first. Okay, it was envy, Okay, what is the
Speaker 3: probably love first? Well yeah, yeah, you're right right right.
Speaker 1: That level was crazy, but at level was like, you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: The person he was still the big voice of the
Speaker 3: city man.
Speaker 1: With envy clue left. It was like, okay. It was
Speaker 1: because I remember, I don't know if you remember, I
Speaker 1: know you got to remember this.
Speaker 7: This is after the shootout and I was banned. He
Speaker 7: was like, let me tell you something. This is the
Speaker 7: crazy ship if you notice, and that in that time,
Speaker 7: every other artist will go to the Power one O
Speaker 7: five and say I flipped the switch.
Speaker 3: I remember that. That was that was the campaign.
Speaker 7: That was their campaign. I did you the fire, nor
Speaker 7: we say I flipped the switch.
Speaker 3: Never did that. I could never do that because.
Speaker 6: Now to money in those days, now years later, maybe
Speaker 6: I don't know what I'm saying, like yeah, because you
Speaker 6: know why, like Russell Simmons had to go what's her name, Tracy, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Russell Simmons had to go. I didn't take the shot.
Speaker 7: And talk to them, and my record was number one,
Speaker 7: grit me. It was grimy that was pulled and then
Speaker 7: it was you like and as soon as I came.
Speaker 1: Back, I got geral office.
Speaker 3: I was like, here be back, and it was like.
Speaker 1: It's a go. And then I think it was kind
Speaker 1: to somebody was.
Speaker 7: Like, it's a goal, grab me right back to number one,
Speaker 7: and I was so, do y'all do y'all understand? So
Speaker 7: how did how did y'all look at that that plan field?
Speaker 7: Because at one point it was just y'all right, and
Speaker 7: then we have this other station that come and.
Speaker 1: Then we got Angie. Like once Angie went over there, it.
Speaker 7: Was like all right, cool, like like everybody's like kind
Speaker 7: of even. Like now it's like it's like the Mets
Speaker 7: and the Yankees.
Speaker 3: Now for real, like you know what it did though,
Speaker 3: what you guys didn't understand? It watered the hip hop
Speaker 3: came down. Okay, explain that because now we're playing politics, right,
Speaker 3: and the politics is this. Now we're not gonna play
Speaker 3: that RMB song. Why because they're playing it's power playing
Speaker 3: it or whatever. We don't. We don't play R and B.
Speaker 3: We're a hip hop station, you know what. Let them
Speaker 3: play it first and then they'll take it to a
Speaker 3: certain level that we just take it and run with it.
Speaker 3: It became on loud and then it came you know what, enough,
Speaker 3: we love what you're doing. But from now one, I
Speaker 3: wants to play four of these songs our but that
Speaker 3: was the very beginning of it. Let me play advocate.
Speaker 7: I was like, damn, but that's how it used to
Speaker 7: be for us and other like like if you're going
Speaker 7: to Philly, yeah, say there's enough playing that. Yeah, they'll
Speaker 7: say it's flex playing it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: The market, Yeah, it was like you from those markets
Speaker 3: slextly enough not playing it?
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yes, yes, that's even like cosmical.
Speaker 3: That's the only reason why they would bring that up.
Speaker 13: Listen, when I started hot, I started midnights and it
Speaker 13: was like, okay, you're on four o'clock, have a good time.
Speaker 3: Played that. I had no rules. In fact, go in
Speaker 3: whatever's hide in the street whatever. It was like the uncut.
Speaker 13: Power came and then our hand started getting handcuffed little
Speaker 13: by right, Oh, you got to stick to this, stick
Speaker 13: to that and what he means like water diamonds. Now,
Speaker 13: now start getting political. Now it's not hip hopping. No,
Speaker 13: it's not coming from here. It's coming from here.
Speaker 3: But you got rules right, right, right, absolutely so, And
Speaker 3: that's when people don't understand. You know, it gets real.
Speaker 13: Tough for radio, like and that war was a little
Speaker 13: oh it got outside.
Speaker 3: Looking at I was like what are y'all doing?
Speaker 13: But I meant it got yeah, it got petty, super
Speaker 13: he got petty.
Speaker 3: And at first it was fun. It was, but you
Speaker 3: can tell it wasn't fun anymore.
Speaker 13: I'm going to keep it a buck. Kind of slipped.
Speaker 13: It kind of separated the city, which was whack. And
Speaker 13: I said, to this day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can't go to a power one of
Speaker 3: five party. Why I can't DJ with envy? Why can't
Speaker 3: you you with pro stout? Why can't what right?
Speaker 1: And it was like, hold up and pro stouts are
Speaker 1: heavy hit the right?
Speaker 3: He was?
Speaker 1: He was, I mean, especially at that time, shout the pro.
Speaker 13: Politics and yo, I'm not here to shore on nobody.
Speaker 3: I love you, bro, But he was. He was playing.
Speaker 3: He was being the general. You can't funk with that side.
Speaker 1: Ya was Crimson blood at one point, I remember, yeah.
Speaker 13: And and it hurts the It hurt to say, and
Speaker 13: I understood the what guy radio? But you know, once
Speaker 13: we're out that building, mhm, we are here in the streets.
Speaker 3: The way the world was, Bro, you pulled up in
Speaker 3: the club, we got stickers, were putting our stickers in
Speaker 3: the club. Then they would come and put their sticker
Speaker 3: over our thinker like b streets. That's what it was.
Speaker 13: Unfortunately, I got caught up in that a little bit
Speaker 13: because I got brainwashed.
Speaker 3: I can't front I got caught.
Speaker 13: I was young on Radio No No, and I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 13: all them guys and little by little started getting brainwashed.
Speaker 3: You know, we all get brainwashed. And then I started
Speaker 3: what happened.
Speaker 1: What happened.
Speaker 13: I started following ABRO's energy. Right, you can't fuck with
Speaker 13: that side. But I'm still a rookie a radio I'm
Speaker 13: I'm like, well, yeah, we can't fuck with that side.
Speaker 13: I started phoning for it, and I regret that. I
Speaker 13: regret that because that was nonsense. You know, you can't
Speaker 13: the other day and I shade of nobody.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 3: I think abral was a great PD. He was doing
Speaker 3: his job. We wanted to win, that's it. But you
Speaker 3: know why it was great, bro, And I'm gonna tell
Speaker 3: you why because you protected us. Yes, he thought for us,
Speaker 3: the DJ that's the difference, right, and I got it.
Speaker 3: A lot of pds don't fight. They do their job
Speaker 3: when she gets hairy, right you know.
Speaker 13: So you know it was ugly, but at the same
Speaker 13: time as competition. At the end of the day, I
Speaker 13: could speak for myself and enough we got along with
Speaker 13: everybody at the end of the day.
Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I mean, at some point it's still competition. You still
Speaker 7: want to have the better set. Of course, you go
Speaker 7: in and.
Speaker 13: And then then and then when when you put it
Speaker 13: on a spot that you can't play with homeboy so
Speaker 13: you gotta do, then you're competing. He's at that coup,
Speaker 13: I'm gona here, and it becomes crazy competition.
Speaker 4: I mean, y'all could compete, but at the end of
Speaker 4: the day, you guys are home team as a city.
Speaker 4: That's the way it really should write.
Speaker 13: And that's where the toxic stops just started getting toxic.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 13: But listen, after a couple of years, I was like,
Speaker 13: this is is bullshit. I ain't doing this.
Speaker 1: And then and then did you did you think Flex
Speaker 1: had a a part in that as well?
Speaker 3: Like because he's forget.
Speaker 13: About he he was this and that's it. You know,
Speaker 13: I saw a different I was like, yo, okay, this
Speaker 13: is cool on the radio, no doubt we're winning. But
Speaker 13: once we're out there, right, it ain't that serious.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 13: It's like playing baseball, right, Yeah, the game is over
Speaker 13: having drinks at the at the after party with the
Speaker 13: fact that said mind warning, all right, you are ready.
Speaker 3: Let me get a drink.
Speaker 1: He said, let me a drink because off, because I
Speaker 1: guess pretty much? Which right when we cover in Bride?
Speaker 1: Which right?
Speaker 3: Cool? Want to be surrounded brother? What's up one? I
Speaker 3: want to ask this king.
Speaker 7: I kept searching all your interviews and things you've done,
Speaker 7: and you always said.
Speaker 3: I started heavy.
Speaker 1: Hitting this because I was never accepted in the big
Speaker 1: dog pep.
Speaker 3: That's one hundred percent of truth.
Speaker 1: You always say it playing around.
Speaker 3: So I was tight? Okay? So so you mean that?
Speaker 3: Have you asked him?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: He yo, bro okay. I remember being at the radio
Speaker 3: station and he was announcing like new DJs who was
Speaker 3: part of his collective, and it was like the DJ Twins,
Speaker 3: the guys used to be a red man. He started
Speaker 3: naming all these like DJ Premier whoever it was back
Speaker 3: at that and you at the station looking at him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: in the hallway, I was like, my man, we ain't
Speaker 3: gonna make me a big dup hit bull and then
Speaker 3: hit me with the you know, my man, you know
Speaker 3: the last crew, the last crew that I was a
Speaker 3: part of, the flip Squad DJs that wasn't really mine,
Speaker 3: that was Jessica's and this crew. I want this one
Speaker 3: to be mine, and you know, I think for this one,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you to sit out. So he told
Speaker 3: me honestly, he told me straight up, but he was like, like,
Speaker 3: this ain't for me. So I was like it was
Speaker 3: almost like a balloon got deflated. I was like.
Speaker 4: That all sounds like saying you're so big this one
Speaker 4: for me, you could do your own kind of like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, that wasn't thing. But look, in a weird way,
Speaker 3: me and me and Funk got a real love and
Speaker 3: hate relationship, right because we just go back so long.
Speaker 3: But he would tell me my ears. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: when you was gonna kiss, you kicked my ass when
Speaker 3: you played this record. And he was cutting up this
Speaker 3: record like he would give me my flowers, but behind
Speaker 3: closed doors, and I was like, damn, why he do that?
Speaker 3: And a part of you know, the conversation, you know,
Speaker 3: because this might be the last gonna talk about it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, I always felt
Speaker 3: like just because I'm moving a certain way and maybe
Speaker 3: you don't know about certain things or it's not the
Speaker 3: way you move doesn't mean I should be punished. You
Speaker 3: understand my point? So that that's kind of like the
Speaker 3: gist of this. So when I couldn't become a big
Speaker 3: little pibow recipes. DJ Threat he's the one that put
Speaker 3: up the idea. He was like, Yo, what we're gonna do,
Speaker 3: man about your own fucking crew. So I was like
Speaker 3: what And I didn't think about it.
Speaker 13: I said, DJ Threat put a battery on this guy.
Speaker 3: He did. He said literally, he was like masterflight. And
Speaker 3: I was like, damn. While we going there, like it's
Speaker 3: not Ain't that serious right? And he's like, NA, we're
Speaker 3: gonna we're gonna call it the heavy Hitters because your handled.
Speaker 3: My handle at the time was the heavy hitter. DJ
Speaker 3: and he was an old chubby and and and we
Speaker 3: used to have fat boy talking rating. I used to
Speaker 3: do a chip called the Midnight Run. I was on
Speaker 3: twelve to midnight till four in the morning, and the
Speaker 3: fat boy talk was all we talked about was the
Speaker 3: spots we get, the food, the best pizza, the best chicken,
Speaker 3: parmesan heroes, the best burgers. Real fat boy. This is
Speaker 3: before vegan life, before healthy anything. You know, I'm three
Speaker 3: hundred pounds talking fat boy talk because because in New
Speaker 3: York or any big city, even like Miami, you bring
Speaker 3: food up, you put a debate. If I say it's
Speaker 3: the best fried chicken in the world, somebody always got
Speaker 3: something to say, No, I get the best chicken. This
Speaker 3: to Miami again, New York Pizza Miami. Now, I don't
Speaker 3: care what almost like the chicken sandwich beef that Popeyes
Speaker 3: and Chick fil a and whatever, the McDonald's whatever sandwich
Speaker 3: that was a real beef. The internet went crazy off
Speaker 3: for that. So that's what it was.
Speaker 4: So and then the heavy hit is behold up before
Speaker 4: the DJ crews wise, was it Flip Squad then Big
Speaker 4: Dog Pipples? What other DJ crews were around at that time,
Speaker 4: especially for radio and radio?
Speaker 3: I mean even period, because the only ones I knew
Speaker 3: were the Pirate DJs in the Bay. They had a crew,
Speaker 3: the Pirate dj I remember that, because then shortly after
Speaker 3: you had the Technicians and the Technicians Union DJ's in
Speaker 3: the city that came after that that way after, so.
Speaker 5: It was just Big Dog Pipples. Really at that moment.
Speaker 3: There was other DJ crews, but they went on radio,
Speaker 3: right it was more like DJs.
Speaker 4: Who battled No, no, no, I'm talking about radio because
Speaker 4: that that at that moment, having been able to get
Speaker 4: everybody together and unison on radio is a big deal.
Speaker 4: That's a power move. So at that point, Big Dog
Speaker 4: Pipples had that on lock and then you come in.
Speaker 3: So he created that. Do you think that was that?
Speaker 1: What started the competition right there? Is that you actually
Speaker 1: went and started your own crew.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the one thing I'm gonna bring
Speaker 3: up and rest in peace to mississ mssr C. Really
Speaker 3: very very good friend of mine, and that's the peace.
Speaker 3: He came to me one day at the radio station
Speaker 3: and he's like, damn near the vice president of the
Speaker 3: Big Dog pippolls right, and he says, yo, he you've
Speaker 3: given all these DJs a shot. You're not afraid of
Speaker 3: them taking your job? And I was like, no, see,
Speaker 3: you know why where me and you come from, these
Speaker 3: kids ain't got nothing. And for us to give him
Speaker 3: an opportunity to shine a little bit, what's the hurting
Speaker 3: that ain't? What's the hurting that bro?
Speaker 1: So what you so what are you saying? Like Big
Speaker 1: Dog pick bulls will only sign people.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think they understood there the more of
Speaker 3: a rale part of being a human being. And I
Speaker 3: understand this competition. Understand people want to be number one
Speaker 3: and the king of this and the king of that.
Speaker 3: But you see somebody busting their butt week after week
Speaker 3: at the club. He's doing his thing, he's making a
Speaker 3: little bit of noise. You know, he's good. He's probably
Speaker 3: even better than some DJs you know on your own station.
Speaker 3: So he's like, you know what, come up here, man,
Speaker 3: you co signed him. Go do a mixed show, Go
Speaker 3: do a mix weekend, Go busting out on Saturday, Go
Speaker 3: do your thing. You know what's the hurt in that?
Speaker 3: How you hurting? So that's all this, that's well. And
Speaker 3: then we became family. Bro, that's the biggest thing. Like, listen,
Speaker 3: I'm the third guy he put down. Who's threat? It
Speaker 3: was me and threat And then this fanatic I was
Speaker 3: in midtown Manhattan, somewhere I found no where you probably
Speaker 3: was going to a gig or coming from a gig,
Speaker 3: and I was like, yo, threat, who we're gonna put down?
Speaker 3: He said, I don't know. Let's let's figure it out.
Speaker 3: And then DJ come on walks around the corner like
Speaker 3: literally hit and I said, what about come alo? He goes, yeah,
Speaker 3: I like coming though I like Comlo too. Yo, come on,
Speaker 3: you want to be down with us? We start a
Speaker 3: new DJ.
Speaker 4: Yo.
Speaker 3: How you been doing at the time just mixtapes? Back
Speaker 3: there was just clubs and mixtapes. I was, yeah, that
Speaker 3: was no story. He said yes, without even no hesitation. No,
Speaker 3: nothing that was and mind you haven't this was nothing?
Speaker 3: Then what an idea? And I said, what a crew? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm down, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 13: And I wasgging, mind you, I'm talking to DJ enough
Speaker 13: for you, and this even doing this show called Midnight
Speaker 13: run Night said midnight late.
Speaker 3: I was just tuning it on the way to club,
Speaker 3: like killing it, that's all.
Speaker 13: You start bodying it. And then this guy says, you
Speaker 13: want to be down with me? And there's no questions,
Speaker 13: like did not even think about let's go? And it
Speaker 13: started right there and and and this.
Speaker 1: Is for lack of a better term. Were you local
Speaker 1: at the time?
Speaker 3: Super local? Okay, local? Super I was local around the
Speaker 3: way Blanc Boulevard.
Speaker 1: I know, I know you, but I know that, like
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know if it was just a
Speaker 1: queen's thing, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: He's from Brooklyn. It was from Long Island. Wow, no
Speaker 3: queens nothing. I was local at the Woodside store was
Speaker 3: the numbers.
Speaker 13: And then I was pushing tapes that maybe I was
Speaker 13: a little not local because of the mixtapes.
Speaker 3: Right was everywhere you work on the mixtapes for five Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And I used to send this guy mixtape. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I had my store and and I was super local.
Speaker 13: And when he came up to me, what is it
Speaker 13: to think about, Let's go what's next?
Speaker 1: Because you wasn't local, you are already the show with Switzerland.
Speaker 3: I was already moving around. He was. He was living
Speaker 3: in France for a little while doing all this craziness.
Speaker 3: Was living there. I was doing gigs like that. You
Speaker 3: there for weeks, going back and forth back like you
Speaker 3: know enough. It was like my passport.
Speaker 4: But heavy hitters became a monster. Shout out to mister
Speaker 4: MAURICEI out here in Miami.
Speaker 3: So I mean, I think you.
Speaker 13: Should tell one of the things about putting heavy hitters down.
Speaker 3: So I was the rule for us. It was like
Speaker 3: you had to be a dope club DJ, a dope producer,
Speaker 3: or you had to be you had to be a
Speaker 3: mixtape dj. Like those were like the carters, you know,
Speaker 3: like simple things like and then you never got called up,
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 13: But you also had to be hot in your city,
Speaker 13: oh your area, like you have to run your you
Speaker 13: had to be a heavy hit up.
Speaker 3: So for example, you mentioned Pro Style like he was
Speaker 3: hot in Orlandos that was incredible. He was the guy
Speaker 3: in all orland That's why we do our heavy to
Speaker 3: retreats to this day because it started from Pro Style
Speaker 3: because coming up in November, right, yeah, going to Puerto Rico. Warning.
Speaker 3: So how the heavy hit of retreat started was Pro
Speaker 3: Style invited us to a barbecue at his crib in Orlando.
Speaker 3: So he's like, all right, let's do it. Because we
Speaker 3: had we had like a family trip with the heavy
Speaker 3: it is. We went to Universal Studios. So he's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're gonna do now. Bro was like, fun, let's comes
Speaker 3: to the crib barbecue. Family. We had a barbecue. It's
Speaker 3: alligators in the lake. Were like, what the hell is
Speaker 3: going on? Like this is Regularida, New York. You know,
Speaker 3: next time that's not regular backyard exactly.
Speaker 13: So so little by Little became a family, you know
Speaker 13: what I'm saying. So you know, little by little fell,
Speaker 13: he fell in the leg. He became a heavy hit up.
Speaker 13: I mean we could see it for days. Fyrus in Chicago,
Speaker 13: mister Mauricio. Internet, it goes international. We got DJ lead
Speaker 13: and Japan, you know, and it. But it wasn't just
Speaker 13: about politics and it was it was a family straight up.
Speaker 13: When when there was times when people couldn't pay their rent,
Speaker 13: or there was a situation somebody got sick.
Speaker 3: Yo yo yo yo yo.
Speaker 13: Yo, chipping bills hold when they talk about it, you know,
Speaker 13: this is real family stuff. DJ is like DJ crews,
Speaker 13: they don't do that. This was different for us, so
Speaker 13: we were very enough. It was very okay, who putting
Speaker 13: out and why? And let's give him some time, you
Speaker 13: know what I'm saying. I'll give you an example. Like DJ,
Speaker 13: he's on a Mega like it took Mega said it
Speaker 13: took him about six to seven years to get down.
Speaker 13: And he was on our next every year, every year,
Speaker 13: every year. And then after a while he showed up
Speaker 13: to one of the heavy headed retreats. It wasn't a
Speaker 13: heavy he it pulled up. I said, yo, eat if
Speaker 13: one guy then earning his stripes is this man right here?
Speaker 3: He don't stop.
Speaker 13: And we put Kalita down. Now he's on prime time
Speaker 13: make it, but he earned the stripes. He called me
Speaker 13: one day, he said, Yo, these guys are calling me.
Speaker 13: They wanted me to get down with this crew. But
Speaker 13: I said, nah, because I'm still waiting to be a
Speaker 13: heavy hitterer.
Speaker 3: That's dope. How long on is that? You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying? That made me feel good?
Speaker 5: And he still started as a record pool originally.
Speaker 3: Now we got the heavy this foundation, there's a five
Speaker 3: and one C three And what we do is we
Speaker 3: we have drives. So like we went to d R
Speaker 3: one time and we literally built a basketball court for
Speaker 3: a school that was literally underwater, you know, like it
Speaker 3: was a mess. The classrooms are mess. You know, it's
Speaker 3: poverty everywhere. Some kids ain't got it, bro, you'd be
Speaker 3: surprised with they don't.
Speaker 6: God.
Speaker 3: So we started to collect and then my wife put
Speaker 3: it together and she would have, like, I need two
Speaker 3: hundred of bags. And then we've got composite, uh, notebooks, crayons, folders, pens,
Speaker 3: the racists, glue sticks and you know, every little thing
Speaker 3: and even a little toy we're put in there. Right
Speaker 3: and then when you go there and you give him
Speaker 3: these bags to the kids. Also, a little kid, he
Speaker 3: probably was like six years old, he got a little reindeer,
Speaker 3: like a little fluffy reindeer. It probably costs a dollar fifty.
Speaker 3: This kid was like, oh my god, and in tears
Speaker 3: and kids that he got a reindeer. And I was like,
Speaker 3: this is crazy. I said, we got to do this, DR,
Speaker 3: So what else have you done?
Speaker 1: The retreats that a.
Speaker 3: Lot of them were in DR because I have a timeshare,
Speaker 3: are right, and at the time shared they would give
Speaker 3: us like good discounsel with the rooms and we if
Speaker 3: we book a certain amount of rooms, they'll throw a
Speaker 3: few rooms for free at us.
Speaker 13: Whatever.
Speaker 3: That's the way we did it. And then we started
Speaker 3: to venture out to different places. And now it's now
Speaker 3: it's like wherever we go, we're gonna look for places.
Speaker 3: Like my wife used to be an aba therapist for autism.
Speaker 3: When we went to we went to a school and
Speaker 3: and Dominican Republic, they don't even recognize autism as a whole.
Speaker 3: So my wife took all her legal teachings of being
Speaker 3: an aba therapist and what's good for them, and she
Speaker 3: translated everything in Spanish so they could read and learn.
Speaker 3: And you go to these schools that're fucked up. They
Speaker 3: have no floors, they're not even clean, they have no
Speaker 3: cushions for the kids to sit on or whatever. So
Speaker 3: I'm not saying we could make everything per figure, but
Speaker 3: we're gonna make it a little bit better. Make it
Speaker 3: a little bit better, bros. Because you know what, we
Speaker 3: go through these fancy resorts, we turn up, we have
Speaker 3: a good time. But I don't know if you guys know,
Speaker 3: resorts are usually built in fucked up neighborhoods and usually
Speaker 3: push out poor families and poor people. This place, they could,
Speaker 3: you know, build these monumental establishments so that we could
Speaker 3: get a spa massage for ninety minutes, or we could
Speaker 3: you know, you know what I'm saying. That's real talk.
Speaker 3: So that's why we do it, bro. Yeah, it's impoint.
Speaker 13: You know, we could sit as a as a crew
Speaker 13: of family. Were different. We're different and have made its different.
Speaker 1: Now before the other day, have you ever been called
Speaker 1: a snake before?
Speaker 3: What snake made in my life?
Speaker 4: Never?
Speaker 3: Never?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Never ever?
Speaker 7: So how did you feel? Because because your snake number one? Right, yes,
Speaker 7: and then and then Juice Cayn number two, I think, Okay,
Speaker 7: I'm asking for a friend. All right, so who's your friend?
Speaker 1: This guy.
Speaker 15: From the.
Speaker 3: How did you feel hearing that lies? Straight up lies?
Speaker 13: I was like, what?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 2: How?
Speaker 13: How you figuring out? What are we talking about? You know,
Speaker 13: somebody made up a story and changed the narrative.
Speaker 3: To his liking. I don't know why.
Speaker 13: You know, somebody said that I took this man's job
Speaker 13: and I'm sneaked them right, and you know, you know
Speaker 13: enough could tell you how I got that job.
Speaker 3: Ain't going like that. I am, mhmm, what what Tony
Speaker 3: was the fifty?
Speaker 13: That's what I'm telling enough, But I'm loyalist, fuck.
Speaker 3: Hands down.
Speaker 7: Wasn't it a rumor of like red Alert put you
Speaker 7: on and then you had to fire Red Alert at
Speaker 7: some point or something like that.
Speaker 3: Let me clear this up because I heard read it
Speaker 3: on here and Red don't get mad because Red Red
Speaker 3: is stubborn. I love Red Okay. It will always be
Speaker 3: my boss Alert, And I'm glad I'm up here so
Speaker 3: I can tell my side of the story. Now, when
Speaker 3: the higher upside hote these seven at the time, they
Speaker 3: call him into the office and they're like, we want
Speaker 3: you to do the shift from now, one thing would
Speaker 3: be a good look for you, and I'm like, I
Speaker 3: can't do that. That's Red Shift. No, no, no, you
Speaker 3: know listening to me, I'm like, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 3: That's Red Ship. I'm not doing that to him. And
Speaker 3: then I got the evil face like, look, if you
Speaker 3: don't take it, I'm giving it to somebody else. You
Speaker 3: got to Saturday to tell me if you want it
Speaker 3: or not. So I'm like, damn, will wrestle. So then
Speaker 3: I talked to a few other people in the building
Speaker 3: and it was already under the impression that the we
Speaker 3: were trying to get rid of him. I went straight
Speaker 3: to the DJ booth and had to talk with him.
Speaker 3: You know what doctor Kitto is, Yeah, of course right,
Speaker 3: but they can't do it. That's almost like when you
Speaker 3: hit a kid from me, you know, burning still you
Speaker 3: realize that. So I went to go tell Red, and
Speaker 3: Red is the most peaceful DJ in the world. In fact,
Speaker 3: I get it fucked up. I never even heard him
Speaker 3: yell at anybody in the thirty forty plus. Here's I
Speaker 3: know him right. When I told him that I was
Speaker 3: just offered his job, it's almost he was like, get
Speaker 3: out of here, that's not true. I'm like Red I'm
Speaker 3: telling you, like he didn't want to hear me, and
Speaker 3: he was like, no, you know Chris Lddie's his manager
Speaker 3: at the time. Yeah, they were working something out for
Speaker 3: a new contract, whatever it was. So he dismissed me,
Speaker 3: and that was her but he's still my father. So
Speaker 3: I took it whatever and I left. Now this is
Speaker 3: the crazy part. I'm scheduled to go on vacation and
Speaker 3: I went to Puerto Rico so my six month year
Speaker 3: old son could meet his grandmother for the first time.
Speaker 3: So I go and I'm literally there. My son gets thick,
Speaker 3: he gets dehydrated, and one week turns into three weeks
Speaker 3: and it's like, it's crazy. So I miss the firing
Speaker 3: of Red Alert. I'm in Puerto Rico. I had no
Speaker 3: idea what's happening. I knew what was happening, but just
Speaker 3: didn't know when, right, So I guess that Monday I
Speaker 3: was supposed to come back and start to shift.
Speaker 13: Right, and you back then there's no Instagram, there's no
Speaker 13: there's no instant, no smartphones.
Speaker 3: It maybe it's star attack, maybe.
Speaker 1: Right, But that was the rumor though, right, that you
Speaker 1: took his job.
Speaker 3: So I had a salty taste in my mouth because
Speaker 3: it was like I would never take his job. But
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it was like if
Speaker 3: I don't take it, somebody else will. They're gonna get
Speaker 3: rid of him any way. So at that point I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, Ship, what do I do? Then I
Speaker 3: get a phone call from the girl I'll come back
Speaker 3: and vacation and the job was officially slated for kick
Speaker 3: Capre mm hmm wow wow job wow wow wow kick
Speaker 3: Capree and then I don't know whatever, the conversations word
Speaker 3: didn't work out. Then there was supposed to be DJ
Speaker 3: Ace or then myself because me and Ace were DJs
Speaker 3: that were doing our thing on Kiss FM before ninety
Speaker 3: seven became a thing. We were part of this DJ
Speaker 3: clique called the Bomb Squad. It was only like three
Speaker 3: of us. It wasn't that, no little bomb squad. It
Speaker 3: was a thing because we used to play bombs on
Speaker 3: the radio and then flex toole our idea and boom.
Speaker 3: And then he became the biggest bomb drop off baby.
Speaker 3: So there's a guy named Chris mccardo, and Chris Mercado
Speaker 3: is the sound imaging person at the station who cuts commercials.
Speaker 3: He does he uploads the music into the system, another
Speaker 3: big computer. We talked about the sound effects, the imaging
Speaker 3: for the station that goes Bunny points of you know,
Speaker 3: all that weird stuff they hoisted. They put sound effects.
Speaker 3: He's that guy. He found that sonic boom drop that
Speaker 3: you hit for this day that flex still plays. He
Speaker 3: found that. But the bomb squad we had a we
Speaker 3: had a real cheesy drop. All she went like it
Speaker 3: was horrible. His was like like a sonic destruction. And
Speaker 3: they changed the game with that drop. But that's that's
Speaker 3: my stide of the story, and I'm sticking to it.
Speaker 1: So did you finish about being called a Well, you know.
Speaker 3: I think it's best.
Speaker 13: I think it's best enough tell you how I ended
Speaker 13: up doing five o'clock when he on four o'clock when
Speaker 13: he was doing.
Speaker 7: Because breakdown, because if anybody tuned into seven yesterday, right,
Speaker 7: this come out next week.
Speaker 3: So I apologize.
Speaker 1: But what they were saying is I got just.
Speaker 7: One saying everyone knows how the slots go right, And
Speaker 7: then we got you saying, well you posting the picture
Speaker 7: saying and then you know you're playing yesterday saying take
Speaker 7: the snake.
Speaker 1: You know he was going crazy, all right, So.
Speaker 3: Snake Robert's hold on you was really saying all that.
Speaker 1: What's going down? I got the city late, like I'm loud.
Speaker 3: To you, so you know, you know they call me
Speaker 3: the snake on the radio. I'm like, okay, I'm snaking
Speaker 3: number one. I'm gonna be the best number one snake,
Speaker 3: my hand number snake. You know, if you really want
Speaker 3: to break it down how I got that slot, I'll
Speaker 3: tell you. You know what I'm saying. The year was
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen. Go ahead. This dude was overseas hurt in
Speaker 3: the hospital. He broke his knee or something. I broke
Speaker 3: my knee. I was on tour. I did Italy.
Speaker 13: The next day, I did a country called Moldova and Modova.
Speaker 13: I broke money in a hotel, had an accident. This
Speaker 13: happened on the end the that's.
Speaker 3: WEEA could join. I think you were trying to sneak
Speaker 3: out the bathroom. I fell in the bathroom. That's what happened.
Speaker 13: I broke my knee. Literally in third world, the eastern
Speaker 13: European country.
Speaker 3: This happened.
Speaker 1: If I've been on low, I don't know what Modova is.
Speaker 3: Just so you know, okay, yes, why I fly back?
Speaker 3: I fly back fly back.
Speaker 13: The whole summer I was out of commission, off in
Speaker 13: bed at home, no radio, no gigs. Summer twenty fifteen,
Speaker 13: I'm bed knocked out. Enough is on the radio doing
Speaker 13: what he does best.
Speaker 3: I got a rumor and I heard in the streets
Speaker 3: that four on five off of Caamelo's fly okay, And
Speaker 3: I got tight. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: we're not having that. Okay, oh this is this is
Speaker 3: before m was on the radio. He said no, no,
Speaker 3: he was already on the radio rail okay, he didn't
Speaker 3: have he didn't have that time. Stock was doing the
Speaker 3: New I was doing on radio You do it too,
Speaker 3: doing the New two.
Speaker 13: I was doing the New tow for a while and
Speaker 13: we had left and we started that, and we started
Speaker 13: that and we left. I took over Now two and
Speaker 13: I was doing New too, and I was doing Friday's
Speaker 13: Nights heavy hit hour.
Speaker 1: That was that was your official first spot was New two.
Speaker 13: No, my first spot was midnight okay. And then I
Speaker 13: had that short Lights out okay, okay.
Speaker 3: And then when when it first started with I heard
Speaker 3: the rumor that they were trying to take him from us,
Speaker 3: and I had three or four hours on a Friday.
Speaker 3: So I said, now, man, I'm gonna give you extra
Speaker 3: hour on a Friday. You just just called the heavier hour.
Speaker 3: And you know you're a host of DJ. It's all
Speaker 3: yours to try to at least team. This is due
Speaker 3: from leaving because he's hot. He's being twenty fifteen but
Speaker 3: he's still hot, right, He's so hump he's so humble, bro,
Speaker 3: but he's fucking one of the hottest DJs in the city.
Speaker 3: He's on fires.
Speaker 13: So yeah, so he gave me that first loot. It
Speaker 13: used to be his on Fridays, he was on for
Speaker 13: three hours. He gave me that last hour right before
Speaker 13: mister See got on, and it was amazing. That was
Speaker 13: the happiest DJ in the city. You could give me
Speaker 13: nothing else.
Speaker 3: Happy. Everybody's listening, everybody. Everybody's goal.
Speaker 13: Everybody's goal is to be on primetime radio. Every DJ,
Speaker 13: everybody's everybody.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry this warning. Everybody's goal is to be on
Speaker 3: prime time radio.
Speaker 13: If somebody asked me one day, yo, you want to
Speaker 13: be on five o'clock, win enough so on I will
Speaker 13: always say fuck yeall one day one day.
Speaker 3: So you know how it all went down. Since this
Speaker 3: guy's not talking. It all went down is I'm in
Speaker 3: bed out.
Speaker 13: Of commission, trying to recover from his knee injury. Enough
Speaker 13: is doing radio with Nessa, and I don't know what
Speaker 13: happened between them, you know, whether he wasn't happy Ornessa
Speaker 13: wasn't happy.
Speaker 3: The marriage wasn't great, correct, it wasn't good. Bro. I
Speaker 3: welcomed her with open arms, and I felt like she
Speaker 3: was just scrutinizing. You know what I realized to this day,
Speaker 3: and I mean just recently. A lot of us, including y'all,
Speaker 3: we all come from the street, First Club Street. We
Speaker 3: grew up in the street. There's nobody who coached us
Speaker 3: on how to do this. Ain't nobody saying, yo, just
Speaker 3: how you're in a podcast. Nobody came you say you
Speaker 3: do this? How you DJ for none of us. So
Speaker 3: it's all try by era. We do what we can.
Speaker 3: We're trying to be human, video out figure it out right.
Speaker 3: The homegirl came from like like the radio geek squad,
Speaker 3: like she's yo. Her and her producer they like this.
Speaker 3: They're flowing this yo. They don't make no fucking mistakes.
Speaker 3: They great at what they do. Polished. They probably went
Speaker 3: to school. I don't even know. But anyway, they were
Speaker 3: very good. It's just they're just like it's just like
Speaker 3: a machine's almost it's almost too perfect to me. So
Speaker 3: after a while I was like, Yo, I don't know
Speaker 3: if I could deal with this.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 3: I got I'm a I'm a people person. I'm into this,
Speaker 3: I'm into feelings, emotions, I'm I mean, I gotta go
Speaker 3: somewhere where I feel comfortable. So I got up out
Speaker 3: of there, I say, I'm out. I got off of
Speaker 3: to do a shot in the middays with Megan. She
Speaker 3: was a new girl. She was working here in Miami
Speaker 3: for a little while. And at that time I get
Speaker 3: to I get the phone call, like, Yo, do you
Speaker 3: want to do this? I said, whoa? What howerre? I'm home?
Speaker 3: We're broken the still. I said, you, let's switch, bro,
Speaker 3: I said, first phone call, I didn't call him. I said,
Speaker 3: if you don't mind, can we switch, bro? Because I
Speaker 3: wouldn't mind. It's the same thing, BRO, You're on for
Speaker 3: us ninety minutes. I'm on for a hour. What's the
Speaker 3: what's another fat fifteen twenty minute? Who cares?
Speaker 13: But you know, to keep it a buck. The first
Speaker 13: phone called there was enough yo eat.
Speaker 3: I can't. I don't want this like this. Wait when
Speaker 3: this is?
Speaker 1: This is recently you're talking about.
Speaker 13: This is twenty fifteen when I supposedly took the snake
Speaker 13: over here, took the job.
Speaker 3: So you know, I said, I can't. He said, bro,
Speaker 3: take it.
Speaker 13: If you don't take it, somebody else's and I don't
Speaker 13: want nobody else to take it, but you you deserve it.
Speaker 3: Of course I gotta. I got. That's what I'm real Like,
Speaker 3: what else am I gonna do?
Speaker 13: This is my brother, you know. I he told me
Speaker 13: what it was and what they're he gonna be doing, Say,
Speaker 13: all right, cool? And then you know, then I talked
Speaker 13: to NASA and then whatever it is, what it is.
Speaker 3: And then I got on the.
Speaker 13: Shift, and here we are ten years later, you know,
Speaker 13: and all of a sudden, I'm a snake O.
Speaker 3: Good from back then? From that move.
Speaker 13: Well, that's what they say. Now, that's what somebody said
Speaker 13: that a couple of days ago. That's how it was
Speaker 13: that happened.
Speaker 5: So that's what they're they're recalling that.
Speaker 3: I sneaked him? Did I sneak my brother? Ten years ago?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: I sneaked him?
Speaker 1: They were saying from recently. Yea, But you know.
Speaker 3: That's what this is. I'm confused because everybody's thinking that
Speaker 3: this is a two years ago.
Speaker 1: Was was Jeuki on? I don't think he was unht
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 3: He was doing boards and he was around. He was
Speaker 3: remember remember Juskie used to do the boards for Angie.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: Forgot what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Before that you carry records for sounds?
Speaker 13: All right, He's been around. He's not a young new
Speaker 13: boy on the block. He's been in that station for
Speaker 13: a long time. Good dude, a guy that the young,
Speaker 13: the young boys embrace. The young world loves him because
Speaker 13: he supports that music.
Speaker 3: He's that guy.
Speaker 13: They look for him. They don't look for nobody else.
Speaker 3: They look for him. You know a lot of people
Speaker 3: hate that.
Speaker 1: So he act straight up put the band aid off.
Speaker 1: Do you think he got you fired?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm just thinking about it for a second, Okay.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know he says he loves me. He
Speaker 3: says TM is not going to get whatever or whatever.
Speaker 3: But how do you sure love like that? Not like that.
Speaker 13: It's deeper than rat man, it's deeper than that. But
Speaker 13: I don't you know, every want to talk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been around for a long time together saying,
Speaker 3: just period, all of us doing what we do, and
Speaker 3: I know everybody goes their way at times, and I know, look,
Speaker 3: there's there's been some real talk that me and him
Speaker 3: had that I might have not liked, Like, you know, yo,
Speaker 3: you gotta die your bed.
Speaker 1: He told you that we want to.
Speaker 3: You gotta be wanted to. You gotta die your big
Speaker 3: You don't die. Your kids are gonna think you too
Speaker 3: old ship you would be. So it's those conversations just
Speaker 3: you know, I was doing the mix show, coordinating jobs
Speaker 3: at the station, doing the music meetings, and then I
Speaker 3: noticed that he would show up and support and then
Speaker 3: he would bitch about the music. And I'm like, yo,
Speaker 3: all the DJs voted on these songs. If you get
Speaker 3: the emails, you invited to all the meetings, like everybody
Speaker 3: else's be vocal, let's talk, let's build. But he never
Speaker 3: wanted to do it. And I don't know if it's
Speaker 3: because he didn't like me at the home, running the
Speaker 3: conference room or whatever it was. But I can't tell
Speaker 3: you where it just ultimately cracked for him where he
Speaker 3: was like because in his mind, he says, I gave up,
Speaker 3: you know, by letting him win, by letting chous Key win,
Speaker 3: staking number one, sting number two, by letting them win.
Speaker 3: But that was never my motto. Remember what I see asked,
Speaker 3: how could you let those guys do? Aren't you afraid
Speaker 3: of losing? I said no, because if they deserve it,
Speaker 3: then they should get it. That's just the way it is, bro,
Speaker 3: and he deserves it. Not my slide, but he deserves
Speaker 3: a big shot.
Speaker 5: Plus, you guys are a collective, so you're all winning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we all win, we all hold each other. And
Speaker 3: that's how I always looked at it. That's the difference
Speaker 3: between me and him. That's it I saw it is.
Speaker 3: I'm not a gangster, I'm not a tough guy, but
Speaker 3: his talk ship game is imprepeccable. He's been doing it
Speaker 3: for years the same.
Speaker 7: Dude, it's breaking, you gotta take it's good. So now,
Speaker 7: because I just to be honest with you, I'm a
Speaker 7: New Yorker. We clear we get it from New Yorker,
Speaker 7: And to me, I've never thought I'll see this moment
Speaker 7: like period like because I felt like I always knew
Speaker 7: it's a little bit of turmoil, but I felt like
Speaker 7: everyone covered it up very well. For years, so I
Speaker 7: thought it was just never like you know, this would
Speaker 7: never like transport.
Speaker 13: You're trying to say, it's sad to see that happened
Speaker 13: the way it is going down, That's what I'm.
Speaker 1: Trying to say. Making sure it's say funk.
Speaker 13: Out of it too, because at this day and age,
Speaker 13: we've done so much.
Speaker 3: We're not young.
Speaker 13: This is where we are in our career. We've been
Speaker 13: you know, winning, We've been winning together collective. You know,
Speaker 13: whether you're there here, we're winning. And it comes to
Speaker 13: this ship, what are we doing out here?
Speaker 1: I do?
Speaker 3: What are we doing out here? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's it?
Speaker 13: You know?
Speaker 3: And and and you feel about the love and support
Speaker 3: that New York was giving you. Make sure you're speaking
Speaker 3: in the buddy love and support coming from New York?
Speaker 3: Like do you feel like everybody has your back? Still?
Speaker 3: And my man, that's the most overwhelming part. I was
Speaker 3: gonna say that him. I'm in the crib chilling now
Speaker 3: since I got to let go. I just I can
Speaker 3: imagine fire you who I haven't spoken because I'm outside
Speaker 3: to thirty years everybody, I got your back.
Speaker 13: Of course, he's the difference. The streets love us organically.
Speaker 13: I can't speak about the other side. The streets fuck
Speaker 13: with USO.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you a funny story. I just told
Speaker 3: him today because they were assuming he sneak number one.
Speaker 3: I have gooms getting ready to go see Hi at
Speaker 3: the next party. Not These are my friends I grew
Speaker 3: up with and they were just trying to, you know,
Speaker 3: hold me down. Of course we're gonna come see him.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, no, relaxed, that's my brother, right,
Speaker 3: So you gotta be careful what we say.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 13: They say that when how who should? Is when you
Speaker 13: change the narrative?
Speaker 3: And what if they do? Yeah? Man, how people think
Speaker 3: and the streets look at oh Shire?
Speaker 4: What what?
Speaker 16: How?
Speaker 3: Quick? Because people because people don't understand the intricates in
Speaker 3: this out of business.
Speaker 13: The all they hear is what they hear, and they
Speaker 13: think it's really right. We live in the generation you
Speaker 13: see the clip and that you believe it right away.
Speaker 1: But let me ask you, because after you DJ didn't
Speaker 1: flex come right.
Speaker 3: On after you you started yesterday?
Speaker 1: Okay, because y'all y'all in the same building yesterday, Yeah,
Speaker 1: saw each other.
Speaker 4: No, So.
Speaker 3: What you know?
Speaker 13: Our radio station is going through an amazing, crazy transition.
Speaker 13: The studios are really shitty, and I go live from
Speaker 13: my studio okay, which is nice, clean sounds even better.
Speaker 3: I think you ain't clean sounds going through. For the
Speaker 3: past five years, I've been going live in.
Speaker 13: My studio and with Nessa, and we've been killing it
Speaker 13: for y'all doing remote. Yeah, she goes in, she does
Speaker 13: her thing. I do.
Speaker 3: I'll go live every day for the studio flawlessly.
Speaker 5: You would never know because invested in the studio.
Speaker 3: So he was saying, yeah, they have it. They haven't.
Speaker 13: They've been saying the past two years there's new studios coming.
Speaker 13: They haven't even they haven't even put a nail on
Speaker 13: the wall.
Speaker 1: Trying to get out of jobs.
Speaker 13: I think the whole country is eventually. I think that's
Speaker 13: where you know, you broke everybody.
Speaker 3: Fun company that brought us right before COVID. That means
Speaker 3: they don't care who made money. Say again, hold up,
Speaker 3: that means they don't.
Speaker 1: Care who made money.
Speaker 5: Bro the hedge fund does not care, but who made money?
Speaker 3: Like literally, the VC, you spend seven hundred mili whatever
Speaker 3: the hell of horse and you don't get no money
Speaker 3: back on return. We don't even have a sales department.
Speaker 1: And let's teot it. You don't have a PD.
Speaker 3: There's a there's a consultant. It's been it's been fourteen months.
Speaker 3: We haven't had a PD.
Speaker 13: We just got a consultant, like to consultant as the
Speaker 13: PD consultant. And mind you, he's a good guy. I
Speaker 13: like him, a great guy. I'm gonna keep it a buck.
Speaker 13: We're so professional that you can never tell to this
Speaker 13: day because we're still running the show like it's supposed
Speaker 13: to be.
Speaker 3: Nobody got taking away from anybody.
Speaker 13: Morning Show is doing the thing afternoon's news, and we're
Speaker 13: doing our thing.
Speaker 3: The numbers speak for itself.
Speaker 13: In fact, the guy at seven o'clock is doing his
Speaker 13: thing respectfully, and.
Speaker 3: We still at five o'clock. Now, oh you are five, No,
Speaker 3: I'm on four to five.
Speaker 13: Four other guys at five, okay, sneaking number ones at
Speaker 13: four all right to the snake is bro But but
Speaker 13: you know, respect we're so professional as a as a
Speaker 13: building that we're still holding the fourth down without a
Speaker 13: p D, without a proper still deployment. What I would
Speaker 13: ever and because you know why, because we work hard,
Speaker 13: and we love the brand, and we love the culture
Speaker 13: and we still want to break records. We still want
Speaker 13: to grab that new kind of like back in the
Speaker 13: days and blowing the funk up. We still we still
Speaker 13: love what we do.
Speaker 5: Do you guys feel that terrestrial radio still has the power?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 1: I believe, I believe this week show proved it.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry y'all if I believe this week it's not
Speaker 3: the same.
Speaker 13: Of course since when super Dog was coming up, of course,
Speaker 13: not that was that was that was the only channel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still a big thing. People don't understand that
Speaker 3: it is. It's a big thing. It's not especially you
Speaker 3: started to cut you off.
Speaker 1: But this week it proved it.
Speaker 3: Everyone was tuned in the hot and.
Speaker 1: Y'all speaking about hot like that.
Speaker 3: That's that's what was kind of dope.
Speaker 7: Like it actually showed the power of that should not
Speaker 7: be the reason why they're tuned.
Speaker 3: I mean, who cares get what he's saying? Reality, Like,
Speaker 3: come on, we can't go down that.
Speaker 7: If it was fake, if it was fake, we could
Speaker 7: say it's real, this is not this is not fake, this.
Speaker 3: Is all real.
Speaker 4: The reason why I say that is that why couldn't
Speaker 4: you guys, with the power that you guys have as
Speaker 4: a collective. Take this into your own hands, like either
Speaker 4: be able to somehow partner with someone that pulls the
Speaker 4: license to get your own terrestrial or go completely serious
Speaker 4: exam channel.
Speaker 13: I think I think it's that's a scary move. Radio,
Speaker 13: like you said, is not what it was so doing
Speaker 13: that movie Left end Radio is not what it was
Speaker 13: so so so we have so many other channels to
Speaker 13: be continued. That's what I'll believed it in the end.
Speaker 3: As hip hop, we need to own more. We need
Speaker 3: to what we built should be owned. But that's been
Speaker 3: the struggle since day one, right or remember.
Speaker 1: That we we do have his jobs too, Like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: That's like me personally, Like like I always tell you
Speaker 7: I enjoyed working for Love and Hip Hop because it
Speaker 7: wasn't like I just could show up and I could
Speaker 7: just do what I gotta do and I can just leave,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, Like as opposed to like
Speaker 7: when you control everything, you have to you have to
Speaker 7: be there before they come, and you have to be
Speaker 7: there after they bounce, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But you don't have to be the manager always.
Speaker 5: You can hire, you can be old.
Speaker 7: What I'm saying is sometimes I enjoy so like to
Speaker 7: answer your question, but I'll answer your question for y'all,
Speaker 7: Like sometimes it's cool to work for other people like
Speaker 7: that ship is cool because it's just like, yo, let
Speaker 7: me go go through my job and then that's it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's how it's just comfortable. Yeah, yeah, the important part,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna keep it a buck. And
Speaker 3: I never said this before. Okay, I should have been
Speaker 3: left hot on any seven. I stayed there way too long.
Speaker 3: I stayed there past my time. I was too I
Speaker 3: was yet Okay, I think the point I'm trying to
Speaker 3: get at is I got too comfortable because it was
Speaker 3: something I was good at. I enjoyed doing it, like
Speaker 3: you said, and I remember like when I first got
Speaker 3: my first gig, I would have did it for free, bro,
Speaker 3: that's how much I love hip hop. I would have
Speaker 3: did it for free.
Speaker 4: That's been hip hop's problem from the beginning, though. That's
Speaker 4: the problem because we don't treat it as a business.
Speaker 4: We treat it on some emotional ship, on our hearts
Speaker 4: and our slaves.
Speaker 13: And furthermore, it's like we, like you said, we need
Speaker 13: to own it and whoever, even if you work for somebody,
Speaker 13: those people you work for give a.
Speaker 4: Fuck, that's the problem, and care about the culture is
Speaker 4: going to give a fuck, right right, then they're not
Speaker 4: culturally invested in hip hop exactly the culture.
Speaker 13: And yeah and a Hedgephne running and it's not going
Speaker 13: to care. They just care about how we're gonna flip
Speaker 13: this and keep it fucking.
Speaker 3: Moving, right. That's all they're doing is I don't hate them.
Speaker 3: That's that's the goal either way, that's their goal. But
Speaker 3: guess what's going to happen this brand that you're pushing.
Speaker 7: But like I always make Joe of my friend's Sonny
Speaker 7: sometimes I tell him, I tell him like you're a
Speaker 7: company man, right, like he literally won't miss work, Like
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, like go work all the time?
Speaker 3: Good for him? Yeah, I make fun of it. I
Speaker 3: make fun of it. Right, And then I heard Hero
Speaker 3: won't miss work with this guy?
Speaker 7: I mean, you know what I'm saying, Like you know
Speaker 7: what I mean, Like man like you, it's a great thing.
Speaker 7: But job, I always I've always been a joke of it.
Speaker 7: Now when I heard about ebro ebral were saying, like
Speaker 7: someone that about flex it is like, yo, you know,
Speaker 7: Flex is going to do exactly what these venture capitalists
Speaker 7: people want them want him to do, like like he's
Speaker 7: going to promote them. He's a company, He's going to
Speaker 7: do that. So basically he's a company.
Speaker 14: Man.
Speaker 7: Is that something that I think you have to fall
Speaker 7: in align with and like follow those types of steps
Speaker 7: or is it?
Speaker 1: Is it something that you feel like, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, you're going to maintain who you are.
Speaker 13: Listen, it's a business and we don't own it, right,
Speaker 13: And at the end of the day, you gotta win,
Speaker 13: and you gotta follow rules, and you know, if it's
Speaker 13: a right company, yeah, you gotta you know, but you
Speaker 13: at the same time, you gotta know how to be
Speaker 13: working man. You gotta be yourself at the same time
Speaker 13: you normally gotta be Nori. But if you work for somebody,
Speaker 13: you also got to play by their rules.
Speaker 3: And I get it.
Speaker 13: And as a DJ and a radio station hip hop,
Speaker 13: everybody thinks, oh, Camilla, why don't you play this enough?
Speaker 13: Why don't you play this a you can? This is
Speaker 13: a I work for somebody.
Speaker 3: They got rules and instructing.
Speaker 13: So right, it's programming, So you know, you have to
Speaker 13: be able to finagle that, and that's what we're great at.
Speaker 3: We're able to fenagle that.
Speaker 13: And then I could give them thirty percent of Kamiento
Speaker 13: who he really is, and take this risk and play
Speaker 13: this fucking on which they hate. When I do, you know,
Speaker 13: this is what the fuck is popping. I believe them,
Speaker 13: you know what I'm saying, enough, same thing? You know
Speaker 13: how many how many years did you enough push the
Speaker 13: envelope a little bit?
Speaker 3: Every year? Kanye West reached the envelope every year?
Speaker 13: You know, I mean, we could sit here for days.
Speaker 13: I don't know whom. I love thems Corney Brooklyn. I
Speaker 13: love his music.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 13: I wish I could. I wish I could play that record,
Speaker 13: you know. You know, so I have to Finigga forms.
Speaker 3: This countless acts we play over and over again that
Speaker 3: there's always something. I remember playing Hi my Name Is
Speaker 3: by Eminem and the PD came from all the way
Speaker 3: in the back, was like, how the fuck are you playing?
Speaker 3: Rock and roll? Is just hip hops? I mean, this
Speaker 3: kid's on fire. He's going to be the next one,
Speaker 3: I promise you.
Speaker 13: You know, one time that ship, one time I was
Speaker 13: I was feeling it for enough when this is morning show.
Speaker 3: I feeled them and I'm sorry.
Speaker 13: I'm sorry this you know this morning show, Morning show
Speaker 13: stonebunk Wold, right. He put me to fill in. I
Speaker 13: did a few times. One time I played React by
Speaker 13: Eric Sermon.
Speaker 3: That's a record the ice Cream King ice Cream. We
Speaker 3: used to call it tricksy, Yo, what are you doing? No? No,
Speaker 3: no no.
Speaker 13: If you don't play to them, cut your poo, go
Speaker 13: back to the program, like whoa you know this is
Speaker 13: this is the thing.
Speaker 3: That happened in radio.
Speaker 13: And I understand back then, I get it. I just
Speaker 13: mixtape kid on the radio, like you know, trying to
Speaker 13: play that fire. But this is part of the game.
Speaker 13: I understand now what it.
Speaker 3: Is Morning is. It's supposed to be a broader audience.
Speaker 3: They hit Morning is way more strict. Like Enough said,
Speaker 3: none of us would trained for this.
Speaker 13: You know, we let we learned by trial and error,
Speaker 13: and this is what makes us great now because now
Speaker 13: we know how to play both sides. You know, you know,
Speaker 13: of course I want to enough wants to be enough,
Speaker 13: one hundred percent. Comeing Al wants to be one hundred percent.
Speaker 13: But when you're on that radio, you can't be yourself
Speaker 13: one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: You got to play.
Speaker 13: You gotta behind ID seven hundred percent cool.
Speaker 3: That's a trick. You just got to know how to
Speaker 3: do it, man, And it sucks, but it is what
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 4: But there might be an opportunity, now there's always not forced, Yeah,
Speaker 4: to make an opportunity to be one hundred percent of safe?
Speaker 4: Was it?
Speaker 1: Was it hard working with Star on book?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, legend.
Speaker 13: Star didn't give up the fuck and that was the
Speaker 13: beauty and that was the beauty and that's why he
Speaker 13: went because he was himself one hundred percent. He wasn't playing.
Speaker 3: So how did you wind up on a star? Because
Speaker 3: I was doing mornings first with Ed Lover and and
Speaker 3: I forgot the girl's named Maya something, the white girl,
Speaker 3: and then later on it was fat Man School Jones
Speaker 3: is the piece and kerk Flir. So they kept me
Speaker 3: in the morning because I was good.
Speaker 1: And and so you had you heard a starbuck while
Speaker 1: at that time, Oh.
Speaker 3: No, Star, you used to work at Virgin Records, Virgin
Speaker 3: the Record, okay, And I used to be an intern
Speaker 3: for Virgin back in the days. Okay, So I knew
Speaker 3: him from from from back then, okay, But I knew
Speaker 3: his real name wasn't he didn't go by start Okay,
Speaker 3: that's it, and then the game seven and she got
Speaker 3: let he got lit. He was trying to control what
Speaker 3: I played okay, yeah, not the station okay, for himself
Speaker 3: in what ways? What was it like? I used to
Speaker 3: play this bro, and I'm like, but he was wild
Speaker 3: because sometime he would just ask for like Nirvana, yeah
Speaker 3: really yeah?
Speaker 5: So he was eclectic of this ship.
Speaker 3: There was another group, his favorite group, rock and roll
Speaker 3: group Ship not Cold Play, with some other ship like
Speaker 3: Presto Rush. He used to be like, do we not
Speaker 3: play the Rush ship? Yea, this straight rock and roll
Speaker 3: bro like you, I don't want to hear that book
Speaker 3: of jig music. I'd be like what, and that's how
Speaker 3: you talk to us? So I got frustrated. One day,
Speaker 3: I took my little book back for my stuff away
Speaker 3: and I left. I boogied my ass off the station.
Speaker 3: I said, fuck, did I quit? And then the boss
Speaker 3: came what is enough? He just quits? And like what?
Speaker 3: She ran down the block and she chased me for
Speaker 3: like a block and a half. That's when I knew
Speaker 3: I was important. For the first time. I was like,
Speaker 3: she didn't give a fuck. She was just left me right,
Speaker 3: but she chased me and she was like, no, you
Speaker 3: gotta come back. You one of my best DJs. So
Speaker 3: I was like, oh shit, that was the first time
Speaker 3: I knew I had a little bit of power, a
Speaker 3: little bit. Oh good. Yeah, I just texted, uh. She
Speaker 3: just texted me the other day and I just told her,
Speaker 3: thank you for everything you changed my life. You have
Speaker 3: no idea how much you changed my life.
Speaker 7: All right, So I'm bounce abound a little bit. So
Speaker 7: how did you get the call that like you're being
Speaker 7: go this time?
Speaker 3: Somebody called me and said, hey, can we meet And
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, sure, I said, give meet me
Speaker 3: at the studio. He was like, no, I need to
Speaker 3: come by the offices. I said, alright, cool studio offices
Speaker 3: two different places down the block from each other, but
Speaker 3: to different places. So I said, I said, what time's cool?
Speaker 3: Around eleven? I said, now you know, let's do that
Speaker 3: one and I go for my shift. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: I'm lying, I said. I beat the bottom eleven, handing
Speaker 3: me a piece of paper and I said, yo, like
Speaker 3: a termination letter. Yeah, yo, thank you for your services.
Speaker 3: This is hard for me. Blah blah blah, blah blah.
Speaker 3: Were the person is saying that or the letter saying that.
Speaker 3: I mean, the person is saying anything like that, but
Speaker 3: I don't want to put that person on blast. Okay cool?
Speaker 3: And then I was worried that's it. And then he goes,
Speaker 3: that's it. You know, we're going to start something new,
Speaker 3: so on Tuesday day, you know, and you're just not
Speaker 3: gonna be part of the lineup.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, that's it. Peace. When's
Speaker 3: my last day tomorrow? All right? Cool? Damn that quick.
Speaker 3: So then I was gonna DJ from home like we
Speaker 3: have been remote, all right, But then this animal and
Speaker 3: one of my other DJs is like, now we're gonna
Speaker 3: celebrate you.
Speaker 13: Bro.
Speaker 3: I just you know, respectfully, you better seven years, you
Speaker 3: better come to work. We're gonna we're gonna film this.
Speaker 3: We're gonna show the world that you know, we're gonna
Speaker 3: salute you. So we.
Speaker 1: Got we got, we got the yallows the yallos.
Speaker 3: Okay, one of the get the one.
Speaker 1: Let's give him the one y'allo hold on, hold on
Speaker 1: like a.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you heard us say right now you need nervous.
Speaker 3: Jake said that we gotta salute the point.
Speaker 1: So look, we want to your flowers because I wish
Speaker 1: I was there in there, like.
Speaker 3: I love that, yes, but ah get no. So you
Speaker 3: know that's when I got on the horn. I got
Speaker 3: to work. I said, Yo.
Speaker 13: I called everybody, well not everybody, but at least you know,
Speaker 13: it was so last minute, you know, I just started
Speaker 13: fakking phone calls, every DJ, every you know, everybody, and said,
Speaker 13: listen tomorrowing on the last show, we're all pulling up,
Speaker 13: salute him and give him his flowers. He put his
Speaker 13: sweat into his place, you know, respectfully in his heart.
Speaker 13: He has had anety seven because this is what he
Speaker 13: did for twenty seven thirty years. So you know, fad Joe,
Speaker 13: fad Joe said what's address? He didn't hesitate, he didn't
Speaker 13: say what what's address? You know, And from there it
Speaker 13: was just ripple. You know, Calig pulled up, Jim Jones
Speaker 13: called me for It was just a celebration.
Speaker 3: It was beautiful. A guy was crying on the radio,
Speaker 3: which is a beautiful thing. Did you see a video? Yeah,
Speaker 3: did you see that? What I said? Because I started.
Speaker 10: Finished all right to the hard from TV. Baby that
Speaker 10: a way to sign on that aman.
Speaker 3: Kids used to have people in a friends, you don't disrespect, y'o.
Speaker 3: I remember doing there's a club in New York called uh,
Speaker 3: it was called Club Carbon that was now was that
Speaker 3: It's called Terminal five, but it was exiting. It was
Speaker 3: black and I remember, I remember in ninety eight there
Speaker 3: was a girl from DC named Steph Lover. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: Steph Lover used to work with me, Yes and if
Speaker 3: and I brought it to the club and I threw
Speaker 3: on Van from TV and it was the ultimate razor
Speaker 3: blade fight.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 3: When I tell you she came from DC and she
Speaker 3: was like you, I thought DC was the murder capital.
Speaker 3: But you'll be on some other ship, YO. Next we'll
Speaker 3: getting sliced goushous open. That's what Nori did to the streets.
Speaker 3: He had people going crazy. But so let's describe that year.
Speaker 3: This is the first year you get on radio.
Speaker 12: Right.
Speaker 3: For me, I have two legacies that I picked.
Speaker 1: What is it called the ten year decade?
Speaker 4: What is it.
Speaker 3: That I picked?
Speaker 7: Right, it's the one that I'm not in and the
Speaker 7: one that I'm in and the one that I'm in.
Speaker 7: It starts from ninety seven. It's like two thousand and seven.
Speaker 3: That decade.
Speaker 7: What nineteen ninety eight to me is one of the
Speaker 7: best years of music. So I need to hear you
Speaker 7: from a DJ perspective. This is so when did you start?
Speaker 7: What year did you start on that radio in nineteen
Speaker 7: ninety eight?
Speaker 3: What month? I mean, well, oh god, damn it.
Speaker 1: Everything is out, so everything DMX don't.
Speaker 3: Drop every day, drop everything, drop everything.
Speaker 7: So describe us that first day, and then how how
Speaker 7: do you choose your selection? Because everything is hot, and
Speaker 7: especially in New York, we don't find I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I already radio. I al't been on radio, okay,
Speaker 3: just I remember one of my historic moments was playing
Speaker 3: why Storm the remix with Little Kim and Ted Lover
Speaker 3: is in the booth? Uh and you know you did?
Speaker 3: That's how it was. All of these is like that
Speaker 3: Hed boops on one section, that their stree is another.
Speaker 3: So I'm going hot, damn hole, here she goes again.
Speaker 3: Life is it?
Speaker 11: You know?
Speaker 3: And on one side is the dirty, on the other
Speaker 3: side is the clean. But because my headphones are a
Speaker 3: certain way, I'm only hearing the clean side. So ed
Speaker 3: lovers like, yo, what the are you doing? And I'm
Speaker 3: still bringing it back. I'm like, yeah, I'm nice, right, Yo,
Speaker 3: I'm a brand new DJ on this radio station and
Speaker 3: I'm going hot. Damn hole. Here she goes again, you know,
Speaker 3: bitch whatever that ship, I keep rewinding it back and forth,
Speaker 3: back and forth. It was a crazy year for me.
Speaker 3: Pun died, right, that's the piece. It's crazy because you
Speaker 3: know I learned this from msiss c Right. There's a
Speaker 3: thing we do, those tribute you know, mixes when somebody
Speaker 3: passes away. But the crazy part is that. But you
Speaker 3: guys don't understand, like, these are guys. We went to
Speaker 3: war with them in the clubs, we went on the
Speaker 3: road with them. We did a lot of things for them.
Speaker 3: But my uncle died. I didn't cry. But when Pun died, Yo,
Speaker 3: I was DJ in the booth and you thought I
Speaker 3: cried on that video when I was my last day. No,
Speaker 3: I broke down on my knees, like this is crazy
Speaker 3: because to me is one of the greatest rappers to
Speaker 3: ever do it.
Speaker 1: I like I said, greatest rappers ever do it, not
Speaker 1: greatest Puerto Rican rapper ever.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 3: Talking to love. I loved it. Warning and you know
Speaker 3: that was a big deal. Ninety eight was everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I was as one of the best years
Speaker 1: of my life. Yo. Uh being able to like to
Speaker 1: like come out with upon DMX.
Speaker 3: Yeah Cameron, Uh.
Speaker 7: Corrupt capa Donna. That was a cannabis cannabis like that
Speaker 7: ship was like the best year.
Speaker 3: Of my life. Yeah. It was a great year for
Speaker 3: hip hop, man, you know. And so the chaka let
Speaker 3: me show the chaka. Yeah yeah, well what was you saying? No?
Speaker 3: And you know, at that time was the staple. There
Speaker 3: was the goal to hands down, I mean it d
Speaker 3: it led it.
Speaker 7: Let like you go in front of Hot ninety seven
Speaker 7: and see anybody, like anybody would be in front of
Speaker 7: Hot ninety seven because they knew that that was like
Speaker 7: the mecca, like and anywhere they moved to the people
Speaker 7: who caught on.
Speaker 3: It didn't matter like like like that.
Speaker 13: I wasn't on radio back then. I was just looking
Speaker 13: at like a fan always like all right.
Speaker 4: You know it was Hot ninety seven and the Source magazine.
Speaker 4: Those were the two things that led hip hop at
Speaker 4: one point. You know what I'm saying, Like that was
Speaker 4: what led Yeah.
Speaker 3: And what year you got on Hot seven? I got
Speaker 3: on one one oh one.
Speaker 13: I started with that little little show I say it
Speaker 13: put they created no, no, okay, this is called Saturdays.
Speaker 13: After the midnight run, they created a show which was
Speaker 13: rest in Peace, case Sleigh Envy, Green Lantern, We'll take
Speaker 13: it to the streets, take it to the streets myself
Speaker 13: in threat. I believe that was the five and were
Speaker 13: rote every Saturday. So I was really on once a month. Okay,
Speaker 13: the best time ever because I got four hours to
Speaker 13: do what with the funk?
Speaker 3: I wanted literally on vinyl? What I wanted. I was Camillo.
Speaker 3: I was in with Camelo.
Speaker 13: No, I was Camelot Hot back then. There was no
Speaker 13: competition back then.
Speaker 3: That's that's that's a big difference. It's a big difference. Again.
Speaker 3: Back then that was my boot camp and it was
Speaker 3: the best time ever. One like for me.
Speaker 13: I would beat my boys up, they would pick up
Speaker 13: the phones. It was a fucking amazing time. Man, wild times,
Speaker 13: wild times.
Speaker 3: Facts. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I just wanted to ask this to you, Camilla right now,
Speaker 7: New York City. Are you the hottest club DJ.
Speaker 3: Over here?
Speaker 13: Listen, listen, I'm gonna keep it a buck. You know,
Speaker 13: I've been doing this man long, and am I the hottest?
Speaker 13: I consider myself the hottest, absolutely, one thousand percent.
Speaker 3: Cam yeah.
Speaker 13: I mean, yeah, I could do it all day. You
Speaker 13: can go to the Grand DJ commdal this all day
Speaker 13: my rundown. I'm busy or I've been doing this fort tired. Man,
Speaker 13: I don't get tired. You know, I don't get tired.
Speaker 13: I love this ship, your wild bro yoh bro.
Speaker 3: I love this ship to Miami. I love to play
Speaker 3: at Booby Trapping. I loved you know, Miami's changed a lot.
Speaker 3: Miami has changed a lot, a lot.
Speaker 13: I used to love when Wood, when Wild Wind was
Speaker 13: like I said, like I said, man has changed a lot.
Speaker 13: Wind would for a time was on fire, but I
Speaker 13: could take it back. Man, when we used to do
Speaker 13: live in open garden and mansion and a bamboo.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 13: So anyway, when I'm trying to say, I still love
Speaker 13: this ship, so I don't get tired, No, I still
Speaker 13: you know, I play every every almost every night of
Speaker 13: the week, you know, And that's you still love it
Speaker 13: that way. And and mind you, the music's changed, the
Speaker 13: culture has changed. But you know I love to play
Speaker 13: open format too.
Speaker 3: Is that what you is that what's made you keep
Speaker 3: the love open format? Yeah, I was just playing.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: I tap into the you could play different genres.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, Let me tell you my bad
Speaker 1: Let me tell you.
Speaker 7: One day, I'm hanging out with Flaws and Frank White,
Speaker 7: and we followed you for three or four parties.
Speaker 1: You had three or four parties one night something we
Speaker 1: I got tired.
Speaker 3: When when what he's talking about? Things like that.
Speaker 13: It's an hour set, yeah, but for the most part nowadays,
Speaker 13: it's no more than two hours. You know, you're going
Speaker 13: there to body the club man.
Speaker 1: You go, you're being Elizabeth.
Speaker 7: You'll go like somewhere in there like nowhere like and
Speaker 7: then you'll go like Guttenberg and then like something like.
Speaker 3: We always end up up town because I'm telling oh
Speaker 3: my god, and you end up in like man And
Speaker 3: couldn't have happened three.
Speaker 13: In the morning, right, yeah, couldn't happen, of course not Yeah,
Speaker 13: And it's a blessing serado, yeah, because move right, yeah,
Speaker 13: you know, and listen, I've seen I started calendar flyers
Speaker 13: right like I want to, meaning I put a run
Speaker 13: down with the I'm doing a month. I started that
Speaker 13: in like twenty two thousand and nine eight, and all
Speaker 13: the DJ is doing now they follow that lead. You know,
Speaker 13: I don't want to say, I started it, you know,
Speaker 13: and I love to see every fucking DJ doing it
Speaker 13: because like the fun I started eating, like you know,
Speaker 13: they're all doing it.
Speaker 3: It's love. I don't. I don't share, you know, it's
Speaker 3: it's I love what I do. Man, I don't get tired.
Speaker 5: And it's clear, you know.
Speaker 3: And listen.
Speaker 13: I love radio too, I still love. On top of that,
Speaker 13: I'm on the radio every day, prime time. That's a blessing,
Speaker 13: you know. And this time that we're living in radio
Speaker 13: like to me, I love I going there, energize every day,
Speaker 13: want to work.
Speaker 3: You know what. I'm sorry, I got my flowers. Sorry, No,
Speaker 3: this is yours your flight. That's right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: I'm the Tony YAlO too, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: One thing we I don't think we highlighted though about
Speaker 4: enough is the production side of it.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, because you did that's right. You got
Speaker 1: platinum records.
Speaker 4: But you say you did the remix to Get Money, right,
Speaker 4: which is an iconic remix. Talk about it, my brother
Speaker 4: jif man that and you did you produced on.
Speaker 3: Bigs you know, by somebody kills you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And you know what you try to chop up
Speaker 7: to get money, and Big told you not to chop
Speaker 7: it up.
Speaker 3: You know what, leave it, leave it. You know what,
Speaker 3: when you travel on the road with an artist, especially
Speaker 3: like Big Big new as of DJ, not just for
Speaker 3: him on the road, but on the radio and the
Speaker 3: mixtapes and stuff. So whenever we got to meet, he
Speaker 3: was like a crackhead. He'd be like, what you got,
Speaker 3: what's new? What they got? And then like a student,
Speaker 3: he wants he wants to listen and break down what
Speaker 3: they're saying. Like that was his way of knowing if.
Speaker 5: He was still good or if he was hot on
Speaker 5: staying relevant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was just what you got. I remember I
Speaker 3: brought him to my crib in Brooklyn to do a
Speaker 3: mixtape freestyle for me. It was a kid named Freshco
Speaker 3: the Flower. Freshcot was signed to Tommy Boy Records and
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety Freshco fright and to put it in perspective,
Speaker 3: I know why you didn't hear because it was old.
Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety one, he won the New Music Seminar
Speaker 3: contest for the best Rapper that year. DJ Miss was
Speaker 3: the best DJ and they and together they made him
Speaker 3: a group. So I knew him because he used to
Speaker 3: live in Sunset Park, Brooklyn for a little while, and
Speaker 3: that wasn't too far from Flo Push, where I lived.
Speaker 3: And when I told Biggie I freshcol come into the crib,
Speaker 3: he was like where like almost like intimidated. And then
Speaker 3: when I did drops for a Fresh go on on
Speaker 3: the on the production, He's like, Yo, can I get
Speaker 3: some drops? Two yea. So it was just funny like
Speaker 3: this just to see that, you know, early Big and
Speaker 3: the way he just loved music and we'd ride in
Speaker 3: the car and he hit music. We listened to do
Speaker 3: mixtapes like to Get Money remix was off of Uh.
Speaker 3: The idea came from DJ do Wop. I said this
Speaker 3: before shut Up than you Do Wop headed a ninety
Speaker 3: five Live Part two mixtape and Somebody Somebody. If you
Speaker 3: go back on that mixtape, I forgot Somebody's wrapping on
Speaker 3: Dennis Edwards. Uh, don't look any further. And then Big
Speaker 3: was like, Yo, can you loop it up up for me?
Speaker 3: And then you know, back in those days as a producers,
Speaker 3: you didn't want to just loot or jack something you
Speaker 3: want to be He wanted to chop it up and
Speaker 3: make it special. He was like it was like, we're
Speaker 3: not chopping it up. I said, what happened? He said,
Speaker 3: They're gonna charge me the same money no matter what,
Speaker 3: whether you chop it like this or the fact. So
Speaker 3: that just take the who ship, all right.
Speaker 15: So I was like like confectionless, like showing up to
Speaker 15: like showing up to sound checks and like that, like
Speaker 15: every time you got to doe you go to or
Speaker 15: take it serious like that, or I.
Speaker 3: Mean I would do that. Yeah, he was, he was,
Speaker 3: he was already. He was already. He was already big.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, get quick time. We
Speaker 3: got quick time.
Speaker 1: Camello. We're gonna just have Camello and enough.
Speaker 3: Just Camelos is a drinker. Drink and but you yeah,
Speaker 3: and all right.
Speaker 4: So the rules, guys, so we're gonna give you this
Speaker 4: or that question you pick. If you don't pick, you
Speaker 4: take a shot. You know what, If you don't pick,
Speaker 4: we take a shot. If you say both we picked,
Speaker 4: we take a shot. But if you pick, we want
Speaker 4: a story. Okay, we want a story either way though,
Speaker 4: actually got you it. Really this is about stories. We're
Speaker 4: not trying to nobody, h this is just to bring
Speaker 4: up stories, you know, all right, Clark k Inner, Caseley,
Speaker 4: rest in peace to both. And this is any criteria.
Speaker 4: There's no crit this whatever the relationship that you had.
Speaker 4: And if you say both, it's all good. You just
Speaker 4: drink and we don't got to drink. You guys got
Speaker 4: mamajuana with men. Mamajana for you guys.
Speaker 3: You' might have to drink. You know why, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you why. I don't know if you don't know,
Speaker 3: but case Slay at one time was homeless, really and
Speaker 3: case Lay used to clean cars with a squeegee. He
Speaker 3: was fucked up, like legit homeless and that yeah, he
Speaker 3: was fucked up the graffiti days, maybe a little bit
Speaker 3: after that, and he's a legendary graffitio. And now you
Speaker 3: know his skill set on the graffiti is stupid wild.
Speaker 3: So if he's Hall, I'm a big up Clark too.
Speaker 3: But I beg I'm hard because he fought for the
Speaker 3: streets and no matter how political a got, I had
Speaker 3: only seven and never changed his trajectory of where he
Speaker 3: was going with his show and what he believed in.
Speaker 3: So I salute him for that fact. But Clark Ken,
Speaker 3: he taught me that you just loving the music is
Speaker 3: almost everything. Yeah, we could love hip hop, but we
Speaker 3: could love rock and roll, we could love dance, love house,
Speaker 3: we could love Spanish music, you know, like we're lovers
Speaker 3: of music. And he taught me that and it made
Speaker 3: that safe for me. So that's why you both you're
Speaker 3: gonna drink. Let's go drink. Cheers, brother, cheers for the legends.
Speaker 3: That was a hall one already. Damn it's gonna be.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, biggie resting piece.
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is mister Lee and hazard is sound like
Speaker 7: the Colombian and the Dominican.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we call the second that's who. That's who it
Speaker 1: is that that's the.
Speaker 3: Colombia and the Dominican. Let me pour up in case. Uh,
Speaker 3: I'm along with but Big because that's my guy and
Speaker 3: I worked for him, and I'll be stoopid not to
Speaker 3: say his name. Okay, jay Z or Big Daddy came ship.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say jay Z for me. Okay, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say ho. Can't bro that going around the table.
Speaker 3: What you're doing?
Speaker 5: Man runs here? Kick Capri.
Speaker 3: Kick Capri for me.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm with the k Capri man, I mean shots
Speaker 13: the ca Capri.
Speaker 4: Now they're both legends he's an inspiration and shout out
Speaker 4: to ron g because of course Dell with it too.
Speaker 4: So you said, Cai Capri, all right, nazarell.
Speaker 3: He gonna asked me. You know, I personally got a
Speaker 3: drink to that.
Speaker 4: All right, relax, don't don't you're leading the witness. Fuck no,
Speaker 4: fuck just Naza nas yeah he dah any reason, baby,
Speaker 4: you don't have to give reason.
Speaker 3: He's a Liverpool master said that's it, all right, Red
Speaker 3: alert or marm bet alert.
Speaker 4: And you answered pretty fast, man, Caldar drama. Call Jesus
Speaker 4: your host. Analog or digital, both of y'all.
Speaker 3: That's tough one too, bo Analog. I was like, did
Speaker 3: you meant to put it? Who wrote an I'm gonna
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say digital digital?
Speaker 4: Okay, no, I know, but the way you or Amnesia
Speaker 4: or Mansion Amnesia. That was the name of the club.
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, that's what story used to be. Yes, yes,
Speaker 13: but that's enough the name because I did but I
Speaker 13: wasn't there for that.
Speaker 5: So which one of those two?
Speaker 3: I enjoyed the Opium Garden Spot? What was that, Anesia?
Speaker 3: I enjoyed?
Speaker 5: That was the Miami Spots, right, yeah, okay, okay?
Speaker 3: Which is the one that prints on No, that's glam.
Speaker 3: Slam became mansion. Yea mansion. That was a hot spot,
Speaker 3: that was place. Was that to change your cality? Used
Speaker 3: to open up for me in Miami? Yeah, club for sure,
Speaker 3: you want me want Joe wanted to kill me. I
Speaker 3: love his DJ talk.
Speaker 13: The first time I ever played in Miami ever ninety
Speaker 13: eight was at Liquid and cat It open up for me.
Speaker 3: I'll never forget that. And first time ever in ninety
Speaker 3: and we got shutouts. Who was the king of the
Speaker 3: clubs in Miami?
Speaker 13: DJ, I see you, that's crazy to me. And then
Speaker 13: I look I saw Cataly, I said, I look at
Speaker 13: him like damn.
Speaker 3: This is Yeah, it's beautiful the way it moves. What
Speaker 3: was the pirate radio station? I was here?
Speaker 4: Well, we had a couple we I had one. I
Speaker 4: was on ninety four point seven. Oh you think about
Speaker 4: Mix ninety six, which is where Cali came from.
Speaker 3: I don't know what's another one.
Speaker 4: It was a mixed, nice rad we had so many.
Speaker 4: It might have been Wow, it might have been that
Speaker 4: one g oud station. I don't I'm not too sure.
Speaker 3: That you're thinking. Or DJ raw station that was a
Speaker 3: bus yo all I know around that wasn't it. I mean,
Speaker 3: I remember being here in ninety ninety seven and this
Speaker 3: town was dead. There was number old people.
Speaker 5: Hey, come on, man, Yeah, you went to South Beach
Speaker 5: and it was.
Speaker 3: It was old people reekally and they were and they
Speaker 3: were catching some tans by the beach all day. They
Speaker 3: looked orange.
Speaker 1: This person.
Speaker 3: Ship. I remember my early big Uncle Luke stories too.
Speaker 3: Those are fire too.
Speaker 5: The bigging Uncle Luke ship.
Speaker 1: What happened?
Speaker 3: Talk about it? Well, you know, I want to. I
Speaker 3: don't know if you were.
Speaker 4: I went to the first show that big did hear
Speaker 4: in Miami lit a spot called My High Temple Mahi Temple.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you were the DJ probably Oh man,
Speaker 3: that hurts, Bro. You're drinking. Oh all right, let's drinking here.
Speaker 3: I'm on to be Q with that one. Brooklyn Queen's
Speaker 3: enough day. I like that. That's who connects us, Bro
Speaker 3: Brooklyn and Queens to be Q's fact. Either that or
Speaker 3: the Jackie Robinson car West one or Rocky rock Him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the Caress one is nasty too good. Rock him for me?
Speaker 17: Okay, shouts of both of them. Still man, he said
Speaker 17: he went to school with you in Kingsboro? Who who
Speaker 17: did the guy who owns we want?
Speaker 8: I was like.
Speaker 3: Video for you even posted we got oh got.
Speaker 5: Jeddy Riley or for.
Speaker 3: Teddy that's just for me, Teddy Teddy without Teddy's.
Speaker 1: For that's about to say, like you can't it's hard.
Speaker 5: That's the best way.
Speaker 1: Yeahs before in a good way, because there's no Teddy,
Speaker 1: there's no forar Real Dopper, Tony Touch.
Speaker 3: This is gonna be both yes brothers, brothers together for me,
Speaker 3: Tony Touch only because I got a better relationship with Touch. Okay,
Speaker 3: so both of them. I'm gonna have to go with Tony.
Speaker 13: But then those fifty not to fifty yes ninety five
Speaker 13: live Bro amazing, and then Tony later minute is fifty.
Speaker 4: MC crazy crazy if you know, you know crazy and
Speaker 4: they's Cruise name again.
Speaker 3: And it was unique you need unique? Yeah, had that voice.
Speaker 3: Yeah Yeah.
Speaker 4: That's when the mixtape game really ran hip hop. It
Speaker 4: was like the mixtape game was above radio at that time.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, the.
Speaker 13: Mixtape game got me to Germany in ninety nine because
Speaker 13: of a mixtape of promoter hired me Bro.
Speaker 3: What part of Germany duel? You know?
Speaker 15: For me?
Speaker 13: It was Munich, Heidelberg, Heidelberg and Munich nowhere if you
Speaker 13: unless you're going to to.
Speaker 3: Little Dog, I love it? How much you like it?
Speaker 3: The mixtape for the DJs was the website. So what
Speaker 3: internet was Internet? Straight out? Yeah, there you go, there
Speaker 3: you go Now, mixtape game has changed lives. I changed
Speaker 3: my life on all right, I'm sorry? Was crazy? What
Speaker 3: was the name of the crazy? Crazy? Crazy?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Crazy? It's the shots, Tupac or d m X GMx,
Speaker 3: how about you? Sorry?
Speaker 13: My answer if you would have asked you this question
Speaker 13: in two thousand would have been d m X. But
Speaker 13: after many years of me doing homework because I was
Speaker 13: when when when when? When it was New York and
Speaker 13: on the West Coast, I was so change over years. Yeah,
Speaker 13: because I started to really study Tupac and listen.
Speaker 3: Really and then I was like, whoa, it was a
Speaker 3: late bloomer.
Speaker 13: Yeah, made you want to study though, just as a
Speaker 13: little by little started hearing new Tupac songs and I
Speaker 13: was like, yo, this guy is like he's ill ill and.
Speaker 3: Yes, crazy because he did Yeah, you pay more work
Speaker 3: to this days was called a cult following.
Speaker 5: That's it, but also PU did that was smart?
Speaker 4: Is he he's such a catalog that it lastens beyond time.
Speaker 3: And that's what happened with us.
Speaker 13: For DJ that you started to do homework and I
Speaker 13: was like, damn, Tupac is ill. And back then I
Speaker 13: was just not I'm not seeing that. I was stubborn
Speaker 13: and young. I'm like queens. You know CNN.
Speaker 3: Channel ten, New York, New York. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: People don't know what Channel ten is, right, it was
Speaker 3: the it was a channel.
Speaker 4: Coolgie rapper, slick rickhe oh they all tell stories.
Speaker 3: Yup. Story King's right there, slick Rick for me, Coolie
Speaker 3: rap for me.
Speaker 5: I didn't.
Speaker 3: You got drink? You got drink?
Speaker 5: You're taking a bloom from mister Lee.
Speaker 3: You know what that means? Right? Is it late? I'm
Speaker 3: doing it because Champs. I'll take a shot. I promised
Speaker 3: the white I wouldn't smoke. That's right now. Don't smoke. Please,
Speaker 3: don't smoke. I even smoking.
Speaker 5: By the way, Kanye, doctor dre.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm ship. I'm gonna go Kanye with that, Doctor Dre.
Speaker 3: You think this is generational because you're a little younger,
Speaker 3: was no listen like the dispar the way these questions
Speaker 3: are put they're both. They're all hard, they're all tough.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 3: But I want to say, it's just so many songs
Speaker 3: with Kanye man, it's.
Speaker 13: Like and so many songs that true, true, but more current,
Speaker 13: like there's so much you need to explain.
Speaker 1: That's not.
Speaker 3: Lawyer, it's just the person ship.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 13: Drake got the timeless, timeless, you could play anything.
Speaker 3: I mean, doctor Drake got the time, this times.
Speaker 16: That's what I said, Drake, Drake, that's what too. Matter
Speaker 16: of fact, you take a shot. I gotta go another,
Speaker 16: both of them.
Speaker 5: Reduction wise, all right, Illmatic ready to die, m h.
Speaker 1: I want to see how this goes.
Speaker 3: This is gonna be fantastic. And don't lawyer, you're a lawyer.
Speaker 3: He's gonna go Illmatic. I'm gonna go to die.
Speaker 5: And this is the way we roll all drink drinking.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna even take a show. Understands warning warning poways.
Speaker 13: You don't know what ill Matic gets. Anybody from Queens.
Speaker 3: Is the Bible.
Speaker 5: It's hip hop, man, I know, but you're talking us queens, queens, queens.
Speaker 3: It's just trust me.
Speaker 18: I know, queens queens. Queens looks like you broke and
Speaker 18: you're walking I'm from Queens.
Speaker 3: Bro you're walking. Don't say you guys didn't have love?
Speaker 3: Having is walking In the Spanish version, he had nothing.
Speaker 3: Next ys ago n W A republic enemy m yeah,
Speaker 3: the tough ones man. Damn, this is a enough question
Speaker 3: right here.
Speaker 19: Man, I'm going to say publican bad Okay, Sorry, you're
Speaker 19: asking me right here?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 13: I was?
Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on? All right, toots, he's
Speaker 5: a booby Trap.
Speaker 3: I'm asking you. Don't do that. I'm asking you. I
Speaker 3: don't know booby trap. Now I'm asking you. I dragged
Speaker 3: him to booby Trap. You guys, I'm booby Trap all day.
Speaker 3: You're crazy baby. Oh ship Hollywood Kale from Mob not
Speaker 3: the coach. He's calling right now. They're calling you from
Speaker 3: booby Trust.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 3: Let me call you right back. I'll call you right back. Sorry.
Speaker 1: All should have said booby Trap or Club eleven in
Speaker 1: the Bronx.
Speaker 3: No Club eleven. Yeah, yeah, the Club eleven. Know this,
Speaker 3: This is the Mega Mega Club eleven. I see much
Speaker 3: haven't been for me to me. Club eleven is a nightclub.
Speaker 3: It's just a nightclub. That's what all these nights are.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: It's a nightclub with some strip polls around it.
Speaker 1: It's to me, loud shows.
Speaker 3: It's not the track.
Speaker 4: It's like, I don't get another sho questions the.
Speaker 3: Place color is? You know what I'm having show tell show.
Speaker 9: Show what you.
Speaker 1: Show what I'm telling you act to me like it
Speaker 1: was however it was.
Speaker 3: It was my show. I say. I went with him,
Speaker 3: but I was like, yo, I just yo. They played
Speaker 3: this record every time we work. Bro tell me now,
Speaker 3: they played all our records. They pay my mixtape record.
Speaker 3: I just make right now. Wow. The girls dancer ass
Speaker 3: I was amazing brow. It was the only good thing about.
Speaker 9: Ship.
Speaker 5: It's funny, said, go to the next We're dying slowly, okay.
Speaker 5: Joe and Jada or a million dollars with the game?
Speaker 3: Oh is that again?
Speaker 5: Joe and Jada a million dollars worth the game?
Speaker 3: I'm oh, man, I tell you know what. If I'm
Speaker 3: a question, I'm gonna say Joe and Jada. I love
Speaker 3: the way Joe just overdoes it. I love it, you
Speaker 3: like it? I love it. I know he's getting flagged.
Speaker 3: They funking with him. You don't woman embracing that. I
Speaker 3: love this smartest thing he's ever done. And I love
Speaker 3: how Jada goes who are they? And then he's like
Speaker 3: they like, you know, like he just asks him that
Speaker 3: red Man is the most underground artist, and I love
Speaker 3: how Jada responds, I love that ship. That's dope. Joe
Speaker 3: and Jada got his own smash. I don't go, Jada, Okay,
Speaker 3: do you make some noise for Johan Jadas.
Speaker 4: But makes the man's all the worth of everybody? Yeah,
Speaker 4: all right, Clips are E p m D. This is
Speaker 4: very generational, not really kind of the Clips.
Speaker 3: Clips or E p m D. He stands two different worlds. Man,
Speaker 3: it is, it is, but not really, it's kind of.
Speaker 3: I can see the comparison. I get they made this.
Speaker 3: I get it. I mean, I get it. It's just
Speaker 3: from I gotta go with E p M. I like it,
Speaker 3: even though Clips is from my r. I guess, I
Speaker 3: guess I'm gonna have to go with p D because
Speaker 3: they got some classics that you know, mm hmm it's
Speaker 3: my thing. But the Clips are making their own classes
Speaker 3: right now. But yeah, this guy puts the butt.
Speaker 4: See the comparison, like, actually, I never liked their their
Speaker 4: but I like this comparison.
Speaker 3: It is a good it's good. It's a good one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely going all right, fat Joe Rick Cross.
Speaker 3: Oh ow ouch, y'all gonna drink. I like these dudes cheers, cheers.
Speaker 4: So you said both not neither right, just to that's
Speaker 4: why we drink. You can say we could drink on either.
Speaker 13: Of those.
Speaker 1: A Rockefeller.
Speaker 3: Ay yea yay le fuck that's a hard one. We
Speaker 3: got X dragon llow X. You know that versus with
Speaker 3: the locks.
Speaker 13: And dip set walk. A lot of motherfuckers up how
Speaker 13: much the locks had?
Speaker 1: No for sure?
Speaker 3: That shoot in that must have been classic. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: didn't know. You didn't be that crazy. You would think
Speaker 3: this said I.
Speaker 4: Was.
Speaker 3: Wanda was like, yo, you didn't feel that No, no, no, no, listen, okay,
Speaker 3: I don't ye don't you don't got.
Speaker 4: Grammy, but didn't feel that way in the building that
Speaker 4: it was a landslide in that way everybody in the.
Speaker 3: Building didn't didn't expect that that much. That's what I'm
Speaker 3: trying to get at. That's what I'm trying to get at.
Speaker 5: That's that day was going to bring more yes, everybody, Yes.
Speaker 13: And then that day way, that day you learned that way, honestly,
Speaker 13: that day you learned what the fuck the locks.
Speaker 3: Had you learned that they won't whoa whoa blocks.
Speaker 15: It looked like they actually were practiced for that joint
Speaker 15: with that DJ technicians.
Speaker 20: It was technician. Honestly, the DJ was DJ was instrumental.
Speaker 20: He was switching like he was shot. The technician technician
Speaker 20: brought it bro like. Not to take away from dipsd DJ.
Speaker 20: It's just no, no, like they really went. The DJ
Speaker 20: was instrumental.
Speaker 1: I think Dips that had three different DJs. I think
Speaker 1: Santana had the DJ. I think that would have been
Speaker 1: like that would have been difficults had one DJ.
Speaker 13: It looked like they really really But that day you
Speaker 13: learned the catalog, you you're like, oh ship, you folks,
Speaker 13: remember that you forgot that ship?
Speaker 3: You all Grammys? You want to talk Grammys. You want
Speaker 3: to talk songs to girl else.
Speaker 13: Anyway, back to rock Rockefeller and and and.
Speaker 3: Rough rough Riders. So whould you pick. I'm gonna see
Speaker 3: a Rockefeller.
Speaker 1: What we were talking about, rock Man, this is the
Speaker 1: last one that we get back to the end. He said,
Speaker 1: what Rockefeller took loyalty or respect?
Speaker 3: I've heard this before. I'm gonna go with loyalty. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna respect. Why because you can claim you loyal, but
Speaker 3: if you don't want to respect for me, and why
Speaker 3: not both? I want both, but I'm not drinking on
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 1: That's the only time I say we should drink is
Speaker 1: So why would you say both?
Speaker 4: I think both is always it should be the natural answer.
Speaker 4: But some people have a strong opinion on one or
Speaker 4: the other.
Speaker 3: I'll give you a perfect example, and I'm gonna keep
Speaker 3: it a buck on the show. I don't give the fuck.
Speaker 3: There's a couple of DJs in my crew who switched
Speaker 3: sides right, who left for whatever reason because maybe I
Speaker 3: helped them, maybe I didn't help them. So in my mind,
Speaker 3: I would think, you know, I want them to be loyal,
Speaker 3: and if they leave it, they're not respect to me.
Speaker 3: So do you think that's an example of both being wrong?
Speaker 3: I mean definitely, man, because at the end of the days,
Speaker 3: like they didn't respect them, they didn't respect me. They
Speaker 3: would have moved stupid and that was not loyal, right. Wow,
Speaker 3: I was deeper warning and that's why I could see
Speaker 3: the misconscrew's opinions about when Little Lars lost his job
Speaker 3: and I took it, or when come Alo took my job.
Speaker 3: Supposedly because it's it's it's perception. It's people's perceptions that's
Speaker 3: supposed to the truth. Yeah, right, Perception is never reality.
Speaker 7: No, Like perception is like now like like they're saying
Speaker 7: like that, they like kind of like like like when
Speaker 7: he when he, I guess that's what he was trying
Speaker 7: to say by saying snake won a snake too, was
Speaker 7: like like like, yo, bro, wasn't.
Speaker 20: Me Like.
Speaker 3: Right, that's that's his perception, snake won snake too. Do
Speaker 3: you think that was his honest perception of that though?
Speaker 13: I think the narrative straight up making it his story
Speaker 13: because that wasn't the fucking facts.
Speaker 3: That's it that was and then he changed it to
Speaker 3: his narrative. Prior to that's cool, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 13: Prior to that cool with everybody, man, I'm cool everybody,
Speaker 13: Like if you got to see each other.
Speaker 3: It's different.
Speaker 13: Now it's what it is. I ain't got time for this.
Speaker 13: I'm going I got two kids and a dog companies
Speaker 13: to run and to get to.
Speaker 3: Right facts I have so foutely.
Speaker 7: Well, I know our accessed earlier in a different way,
Speaker 7: but were you shocked, like because of your relationship prior
Speaker 7: to that that he would say something like that about
Speaker 7: you publicly.
Speaker 3: I wasn't shocked because at that point.
Speaker 7: And you're still on the station, it's like you're still
Speaker 7: there like at some point, And was it obviously it.
Speaker 13: Was you, I don't know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yah
Speaker 13: yeah yeah yeah, his hands down, you know?
Speaker 3: Was it we just ignorant that.
Speaker 7: He said the people in your room and the people
Speaker 7: in his room other than people that was working there
Speaker 7: were Camello and Juiceky, So it was obviously.
Speaker 3: It was do you knowbody to do the math? It's
Speaker 3: only let's say so. Yeah.
Speaker 13: And I wasn't shocked because looking at the history, the
Speaker 13: way this guy moves, he has beat with the whole
Speaker 13: world like, so I wasn't the following it's our turn
Speaker 13: the fuck?
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 3: wasn't shot.
Speaker 4: Can we leave this whole world? So I want to
Speaker 4: leave this fucking bullshit?
Speaker 14: No?
Speaker 1: No, no, I just listen. This is as me and
Speaker 1: being a New Yorker.
Speaker 7: At some point that either one of y'all things that
Speaker 7: you could just pick up the phone and like talk,
Speaker 7: or do you think it's beyond that point?
Speaker 3: Like I said before, I'm not an asshole. I know,
Speaker 3: I know, I'm a better guy. Maybe we'll talk, but
Speaker 3: not right now. Mm hmm. But the dust settle. It's
Speaker 3: still dusty out here, right Okay, Now I'm gonna switch
Speaker 3: it up.
Speaker 7: But the man o the question if power went over,
Speaker 7: I've caught you right now, another question and say you
Speaker 7: know I got them after the news open for you, buddy.
Speaker 3: At the pilet. I don't know, man, Yo know, as
Speaker 3: long as my man is happy, I really don't know.
Speaker 3: It's all about It's all about that at this point,
Speaker 3: I've learned my lesson, and I don't know if I
Speaker 3: could give about so much time to another. It's just
Speaker 3: another station. So I think I'd rather give more time
Speaker 3: to the heavy hitters. I'd rather give more time to
Speaker 3: your man, and then the things that are gonna benefit
Speaker 3: me directly. I would love to see Andrew Martinez again,
Speaker 3: but I don't know if that's the best thing for me.
Speaker 3: We might be way past that time already.
Speaker 13: The thing is, the thing is the DJ to You
Speaker 13: also got to be happy with the fuck you're doing.
Speaker 13: You know, you gotta be happy playing the music you love. Listen,
Speaker 13: you asked me, yo, you don't get tired of this dude,
Speaker 13: night club ship.
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I love this ship. Let's go.
Speaker 13: What if somebody finds out, well, were in town and
Speaker 13: Miami and they call me, Yeah, let's go nobody rock.
Speaker 13: You got what you do as a DJ. You know,
Speaker 13: DJ plays the heart out the best when they playing
Speaker 13: their music. They fucking love right.
Speaker 5: That's that's the.
Speaker 3: Point though, that's that they love that, they love rights,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 13: So if he says, yeah, I want to do this
Speaker 13: and do it with your heart, that's how you win.
Speaker 3: You got this far because we did it with our hearts.
Speaker 3: As facts. I like what you just said. I like
Speaker 3: that we did it with a heart. I'm running with it.
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of ship.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: This is business, Yeah, no doubt. You have to play
Speaker 3: the role. You have to play the fucking radio role.
Speaker 13: Cool, and you have to give them okay, fifty fifty
Speaker 13: enough seven.
Speaker 3: And that's why it works because you're you're still yourself.
Speaker 3: The minue you.
Speaker 13: Start being forced to be something you're not. That's that's
Speaker 13: the beginning of the end right there. No, you're losing,
Speaker 13: that's it, that's it. This is this is why we've
Speaker 13: been rocking so long. And we're still here.
Speaker 7: So I'm gonna ask you, Camilla, you're still there. You
Speaker 7: rock you Sorry, you're rocking. The bosses see you hearing
Speaker 7: you go to the clubs and then they say, man,
Speaker 7: do you want fun flex spot spot?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You taking let me the real snake.
Speaker 13: If the bosses call me and say do you want
Speaker 13: to funk flex spot, I ain't to say that.
Speaker 3: The question is. The question is.
Speaker 13: The question is if the bosses call me right and
Speaker 13: and say if I want homeboy spot? I mean homeboy
Speaker 13: spot at the Cramon is what I used to do anyway,
Speaker 13: m five o'clock, so, yeah, it's prime time. I've been
Speaker 13: doing prime time for the four to six for the
Speaker 13: past ten years. But but he got so now he
Speaker 13: got five to eleven, right eleven?
Speaker 1: He used to have seven to ten, right right, So
Speaker 1: no seven to midnight seven mins?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, correct, all right? So I mean listen, man,
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on. I don't know.
Speaker 13: I'm still happy when Matt don't get it fucked up.
Speaker 13: I'm still about four o'clock. I'm a happy man. I'm
Speaker 13: happy working When us has worked out very well, I
Speaker 13: salute her. She's professional. Facts you know, and she she worked.
Speaker 1: Like I got telling people four to five every day, five.
Speaker 13: Every day commercial free, not one commercial home on for.
Speaker 1: Hour two three ninety seven ninety seven.
Speaker 3: That's it that you already know.
Speaker 13: You know the knowe salute the girl because she works
Speaker 13: hard and we were good combo. And I'm happy. I've
Speaker 13: been happy and I was never discruntled. To this day,
Speaker 13: I'm not to scruntled.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you are right, bro.
Speaker 7: If you could change anything in this process, what would
Speaker 7: you change? I know you said you would leave what process?
Speaker 7: Like the process of you know, yeah, yeah everything like
Speaker 7: you say one thing earlier, you say you should you
Speaker 7: feel like you should have left out any seven earlier.
Speaker 7: But name something else that if you if you could
Speaker 7: change like yourself, like like, what would you change?
Speaker 3: Sometimes and this is real talk and hurts, but sometimes
Speaker 3: you give so much that you spread yourself thin by
Speaker 3: giving so much. And sometimes when you give so much,
Speaker 3: you take away from yourself. So sometimes maybe I gave
Speaker 3: away too much, you know what I mean? No anybody,
Speaker 3: my friends, my family, my boys, my heavy it is whoever.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you give so much because you love and you
Speaker 3: want to see people win. But then sometimes because you
Speaker 3: do that you're giving away some of yourself, away from yourself,
Speaker 3: from yourself. And I think that's what Flex doesn't like
Speaker 3: about me. He felt that's where maybe he feels like
Speaker 3: I've given up because I'm giving to them so much,
Speaker 3: because I'm giving to this guy so much, so easily,
Speaker 3: like it's nothing where like they want to fight for
Speaker 3: their position. And what's that mentality? The king of the
Speaker 3: hill and you talk to come up to hill to
Speaker 3: get kicked me talk. They want that. So that's the
Speaker 3: only thing, maybe a little bit they got over gage.
Speaker 5: Nah, bro, you can't say that.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: If you over gave it, that's a positive.
Speaker 3: Think it's a positive thing.
Speaker 5: That's that's that positive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's positive. Listen, not everybody.
Speaker 4: Look, let me say something. I know that he doesn't.
Speaker 4: He doesn't remember this. But you were the first DJ
Speaker 4: to well the only DJ in New York to ever
Speaker 4: play a record that I put out. It was called
Speaker 4: The Alliance Spanish Fly. Shout out to Ebony Underwood. That
Speaker 4: connected us. She connected this and you played one of
Speaker 4: our records.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: And let me tell you that I believe that whatever
Speaker 5: you're doing, you do it from the heart.
Speaker 3: This is true. And and you're you're inspiring people when
Speaker 3: you do it.
Speaker 4: Maybe what you you play one record, it doesn't mean
Speaker 4: nothing in that one record played, but it means it
Speaker 4: reverberates right and in them feeling positive and like fire,
Speaker 4: like yo, holy shit, enough, play my record.
Speaker 3: Another thing that Enough.
Speaker 13: He said, He gave so much. I could sit here
Speaker 13: with a list Laura Styles, Bugs cast one pro Style.
Speaker 13: He all gave him a chance. You look at all
Speaker 13: of them. They're all on radio to this day because
Speaker 13: of this man, Camillo, because of this man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying the other day.
Speaker 13: The other day, Calle System, beautiful ship, he said. Enough
Speaker 13: was the first one to play what's the record taking over?
Speaker 4: On hot He was the first let's highlight Calid big
Speaker 4: dog pitbull, right, just highlight that, just to make sure
Speaker 4: that it's understood right.
Speaker 13: And he was the first one to touch it and
Speaker 13: keep touching it and playing it. And then the beautiful
Speaker 13: thing that Cali said is unity. It's so important. He goes,
Speaker 13: all I want after all of this is us to
Speaker 13: be in my backyard arbicueing the guys that I.
Speaker 3: Came up with.
Speaker 13: You know, it's like motherfuckers, forget them, Like it's not
Speaker 13: there's nothing wrong with having unity, there's nothing wrong with
Speaker 13: holding each other down. This guy opened so many doors
Speaker 13: for so many people to this day. I mean, the
Speaker 13: list goes on. I got a long list, but it's.
Speaker 3: Like, enough, learn from BETTERRB, Bro, that's it enough.
Speaker 5: You know that there is a class act.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 3: Of course he's a class act.
Speaker 13: You know.
Speaker 3: Enough was the first one to see Phelly fell in
Speaker 3: l A. Yeah, Felly feels a fucking legend, man, legend,
Speaker 3: you know Parish in Chicago. You know, I saw, I
Speaker 3: learned from him.
Speaker 13: I saw who was who I put Mister Mario said, Yo,
Speaker 13: we gotta put mister Maritil down.
Speaker 3: Remember that the moon of Us legend, legend in Miami.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. And I learned from him
Speaker 3: how she works.
Speaker 13: Entire I mean, yeah, exactly, we're putting that fast forward,
Speaker 13: putting Tis down the feez. You know what I'm saying. Listen,
Speaker 13: it all comes from that energy, and that energy reciprocates.
Speaker 13: So you know, a lot of motherfuckers wouldn't have a
Speaker 13: job if it wasn't for giving so much. And it's
Speaker 13: a beautiful thing.
Speaker 20: Man.
Speaker 3: Now, let's talk, Let's talk, Let's talk. Reggae throne, right,
Speaker 3: I saw your fault.
Speaker 1: You know, I would like to think so, but I
Speaker 1: remember it felt like it was like us against the world, right,
Speaker 1: Like I would go to Puerto Rico, I would hear
Speaker 1: these records. I would come back home, people would like
Speaker 1: laugh at me.
Speaker 7: I'm like, yo, play that the Spanish the Spanish reggae ship,
Speaker 7: because I didn't.
Speaker 3: Know what it was called. I don't know if that's
Speaker 3: what it really was.
Speaker 7: It was like, Yo, the Spanish reggae ship, being Room
Speaker 7: buys test smooth, play that ship.
Speaker 3: When I go.
Speaker 7: And I remember me actually like actually trying a record,
Speaker 7: like I was like Yo, I was telling other DJs
Speaker 7: and they just play the ship. And so I don't
Speaker 7: know if you remember, if you listen Tom Kando, I
Speaker 7: shot both of y'all out.
Speaker 3: I came to the video using the video.
Speaker 13: I keep shot the lex because you're doing their grandpaon
Speaker 13: so I said, Yo, they should.
Speaker 3: But but but but how did that feel like?
Speaker 7: Because like like right now, I'm going I'm going to
Speaker 7: port a weeko tomorrow, right, so obviously I have to
Speaker 7: stop a Bad Money concert.
Speaker 1: But it's my birthday on Saturday. Yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you're so ha, you know what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3: But you know what I'm meaning. I'm there already.
Speaker 7: So but what I'm saying is we think about it,
Speaker 7: like I don't want to say it. Start up saying
Speaker 7: in America because everyone knew, Like I remember when they
Speaker 7: gonna have that joint, everyone thought he was Dominican.
Speaker 1: Order Dominicans. So and I remember like.
Speaker 7: And me trying this record, and I tried it just
Speaker 7: for the Porto Ricae parade.
Speaker 1: And that ship went from spins, the spins and spins.
Speaker 1: But how did it feel like to see like a
Speaker 1: new genre of music, like it filter end.
Speaker 7: And at first the station was like no, and then
Speaker 7: they got behind a gando for the first time and
Speaker 7: that ship was like the number one, Like how.
Speaker 1: Did it feel? I mean not, I don't want to
Speaker 1: limit it to Kanda, but in general.
Speaker 7: I'm saying, in general, like them embracing They're like, now listen,
Speaker 7: listen to how it's like every fifth record is a fucking.
Speaker 3: Fucking uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: All I know is this, and I didn't realize it's
Speaker 3: like good. I think there's that internal racism ship still
Speaker 3: going on around in the world where like the light
Speaker 3: skin blacks the dog skin blacks. That same racism, and
Speaker 3: that perception still lives within the Spanish culture. Uncle, fuck
Speaker 3: your Jamaican as a colonial. That that ship, that's what
Speaker 3: it is. When Bad Bunny's first few records started to
Speaker 3: get played on Hot ninety seven, we were playing them
Speaker 3: ships way more than our mega. Yeah, my man, it's
Speaker 3: a Spanish station, the biggest in the city, and you're
Speaker 3: not playing Bath Bunny. And then Hot ninety seven is
Speaker 3: with a hip hop station, is playing Bad Bunny more
Speaker 3: than y'all, Like, what does that mean? Yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 3: makes no sense to me. It's almost like.
Speaker 1: In the very beginning of let's take a shot for
Speaker 1: the radio for y'all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when the black programmers didn't program hip hop, all right,
Speaker 3: you had a way. So the white boys came over
Speaker 3: on Hot ninety seven and gave it the green light.
Speaker 3: And then the black guys are mad calling us the
Speaker 3: plantation station. Wow, But the Plantation Station was the one
Speaker 3: that fucking made it legendary for the whole entire world.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's yo. Sometimes there's that internal racism ship. It's
Speaker 3: that little thing in your ear, like when your grandmother
Speaker 3: tells me, my grandmother says why are you playing this music?
Speaker 3: Why a you not playing Southside? Why you're not playing
Speaker 3: Mega Marane game? Like, yeah, but I grew up wanting
Speaker 3: to hear Boom Bab hip hop, electronic hip hop, Africa Bambarda,
Speaker 3: you know, the Zulu beats and all. That ship was
Speaker 3: game changing for me as an artist, I mean as
Speaker 3: a DJ. When you actually artist is correct, when you
Speaker 3: actually yeah, I know, I forget that. But when you
Speaker 3: ask me about Public Enemy and who's my favorite group,
Speaker 3: this is the appreciation level. And I explained this a
Speaker 3: few times. But I would be my house at two
Speaker 3: in the morning, sneaking out to the living room to
Speaker 3: put on some headphones that my dad had and put
Speaker 3: the radio on so I could hear Public Enemy on
Speaker 3: the radia. And when I heard them, they scared this
Speaker 3: ship out of me because I didn't understand what I
Speaker 3: didn't know before that, but I didn't understand what political
Speaker 3: rap was. So when they were talking that ship, I
Speaker 3: was like, Yo, this ship is crazy. And then Nwa
Speaker 3: was ill too. They're the same thing. I always on
Speaker 3: different spectrum they are. Yeah. When Nwa was fucking it
Speaker 3: was eighty nine eighty eight, Yo, bro, every fucking car
Speaker 3: in the hood was playing wa. It wasn't a West
Speaker 3: Coast East Coat thing. It was a fucking hot thing
Speaker 3: with that race.
Speaker 13: Me for the Okano like that era. It was a
Speaker 13: no brainer, like from New York. You know thones already popping,
Speaker 13: you jump on it big made from Queen Johns. It
Speaker 13: was a no brainer and it was just for me.
Speaker 3: It was just no question. You know. I got punished
Speaker 3: for that. Were you early on as a hip hop
Speaker 3: dred percent?
Speaker 13: What you mean? I got punished for that because it
Speaker 13: was not on the playlist. I used to push it
Speaker 13: a lot, and they're like, yo, why are you'll playing
Speaker 13: that so much?
Speaker 3: When is when's this? This is just a fat well.
Speaker 3: They used to make fun of him, used to call
Speaker 3: me mister pill because I used to play him so much.
Speaker 3: But Yo, this guy's on fucking fire. How can you not?
Speaker 3: You know yo, they used to do that fat This
Speaker 3: is gonna end? When is this over?
Speaker 1: That's why?
Speaker 7: That's why, Like, although I have nothing to do with
Speaker 7: the bad Buddy guys at all, Like I'm claiming.
Speaker 1: It like me, I claim it, Like yo, listen, did
Speaker 1: you claiming you sure?
Speaker 3: Claim Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like look all of it see yes on this side,
Speaker 3: on this on the American sign.
Speaker 13: Yeah, but if it wasn't for that, if it wasn't that,
Speaker 13: you don't know how ventually took off.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it would it took off anyway.
Speaker 3: But but you versated the scene thrown.
Speaker 7: Regond Ever added seven, it's me first time if performing
Speaker 7: the Source award is me, first time is added to MTV,
Speaker 7: Me first time, added to BT, this first time KTU.
Speaker 13: You know you go, but you know, something like that
Speaker 13: is new, it's going to be tested and hated. Hip
Speaker 13: hop got hated, right, I got hated, and I got
Speaker 13: hated because it was new to a lot of people. Yeah,
Speaker 13: they didn't understand, they didn't get it. Fast forward to
Speaker 13: twenty twenty five. This everybody, Yeah, that's got better. Let's
Speaker 13: be honest, let's it got better from evolved.
Speaker 3: Because I don't know what you got to use because
Speaker 3: the beat. I was like, wait wait, because the beat change,
Speaker 3: you got more progression change and changing the guy. It
Speaker 3: sounds like jugging hoping.
Speaker 18: I was not feeling.
Speaker 3: Originally a lot of people weren't because it's the same
Speaker 3: beat no no no for latinos, latinos and hip hop.
Speaker 5: I thought it was taking us back right.
Speaker 3: That's the way a lot better were. They needed it,
Speaker 3: needed evolution, man, need that's what happened. I hate bother.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 3: Well you you took off the bucket hand and the
Speaker 3: timings and the and the and the camouflage, and you
Speaker 3: got like a sun palm tree. You. Yeah, changed up
Speaker 3: the best time. Got sandals and shorts on. Now come.
Speaker 13: I'll never forget mister C coming up to me saying,
Speaker 13: you know, I need that song, man, that song I
Speaker 13: was playing one time the Copa cabana and and he
Speaker 13: came fifty seventh or thirty four thirty, and he came
Speaker 13: and he saw that reaction.
Speaker 3: Your boy boy boy. Yeah, he saw that fucking crowd.
Speaker 3: The next day on Friday, I need that freck that
Speaker 3: record you played. Oh you just saying it out and
Speaker 3: I was like, I gotcha, yo. And that's one thing
Speaker 3: mister C just said. Always used to Ben he was
Speaker 3: on it. I need this, I need that, I need that.
Speaker 3: Is this fucking is this notrec shit? I throw this
Speaker 3: away like he was on it.
Speaker 13: But you know, it's a beautiful thing about the DJ,
Speaker 13: like somebody that loves what they do.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That's why he was a legend.
Speaker 3: That mister c was a very very powerful and les
Speaker 3: DJ and unique. A lot of people were scared to
Speaker 3: play after him. I hate the play after him and
Speaker 3: be like, yeah, fuck, I gotta work hard now. But
Speaker 3: he was a tough motherfucker boy.
Speaker 1: Is it true?
Speaker 7: If you if you, if you like, if you're the headliner,
Speaker 7: you could tell the opener not to play a certain record.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could, you could do that, but why it's
Speaker 3: etiquette because you want to save the headline. It needs
Speaker 3: to shine.
Speaker 13: You'll get pissed if the if the not only that,
Speaker 13: you also have to think about the party itself.
Speaker 3: When you're rocking a place.
Speaker 13: You want this ship to last for four hours and
Speaker 13: you don't want you want to build the ship up
Speaker 13: to be exciting, you know what I'm saying. So you're
Speaker 13: not playing a hot fucking record at midnight because it's
Speaker 13: supposed to turn up at two in the morning.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That that's that's just the
Speaker 3: old school nowadays, this ship is oh yeah, place.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 13: But respectfully, if there's a headliner, you don't you let
Speaker 13: him do what he does best and you play the low.
Speaker 21: It's not of the flow and you have to. And
Speaker 21: then the other thing is is business too. You have
Speaker 21: to keep those motherfuckers there all night spending money. If
Speaker 21: you hit turn up too early, get to to DJ right,
Speaker 21: DJ etiquette. Man, Let's see.
Speaker 1: I remember you used to call yourself the International Club.
Speaker 3: Yo. I gave him that name. I don't know, I
Speaker 3: don't know I gave that name.
Speaker 7: No, but I'm gonna be honest. I've been to a
Speaker 7: lot of your parties and it is international.
Speaker 13: Like I said before, I like to play a little
Speaker 13: bit of everything, which is the beautiful party. Like when
Speaker 13: you get there's some nice that you just play. Have
Speaker 13: to play ratchet hip hower, but there's some other nice.
Speaker 13: Those best parties is when you could tap into a
Speaker 13: little bit of everything. Gave them a little reggae, fucking house,
Speaker 13: hip hop, old school ship then both.
Speaker 1: I just know girl.
Speaker 3: The house, No, no, no, When I say house, I'm
Speaker 3: talking about the thing called affle house right now, afro
Speaker 3: house crazy, yeah, affle House.
Speaker 1: I just played hooking the house music.
Speaker 3: Only take those braids out right now, put a little
Speaker 3: afro on, get your affrole house.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot to that. Hold on, this
Speaker 1: is empty, A shot of.
Speaker 3: That look like this ship is getting me nice. We
Speaker 3: gotta cut this interview off soon, yeah yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah enough man, listen, one main percent.
Speaker 7: You have everything to do with my career, which means
Speaker 7: you got everything to do with what we were built
Speaker 7: right here. You've been trying to get you here to
Speaker 7: give you your flowers a long time ago. I don't
Speaker 7: want you to feel like that. We like, you know,
Speaker 7: we tapped in and went so hard. It's because of
Speaker 7: what happened. You've been deserve your flowers. You've been deserved
Speaker 7: this love. You've been deserved.
Speaker 3: No, you've been trying to get me since twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: That's what I remember.
Speaker 1: You've been.
Speaker 7: You know, you know, to hear these stories and here
Speaker 7: like you know, you put in you know, your people
Speaker 7: in front of you, it's inspiring. It's something that I
Speaker 7: do a lot, but it's something like this. It's more
Speaker 7: inspiring to hear it. You know, come from a DJ
Speaker 7: perspective like you know, even my DJ that's been my
Speaker 7: DJ for twenty years and he said, only two times
Speaker 7: I've been on Hot ninety seven is when the now
Speaker 7: thank you for that and when DJ enough.
Speaker 13: That's a prime I'm trying to put you off. But
Speaker 13: that's a prime example.
Speaker 3: Seven two times. And I don't know, remember because you
Speaker 3: do so much for everybody, your guys, you thank you
Speaker 3: have me hit it right here one. But that's a
Speaker 3: prime example that much. That's how it starts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because so I just want to say that you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying right minding me of what I'm
Speaker 1: doing and what I'm doing on my side life. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And it's like, you know what,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's like that.
Speaker 7: Sometimes you got to put something before you, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, in order for you to move forward.
Speaker 7: And you know, it was crazy because we're sitting around
Speaker 7: and I'm like, there's no better, guess man.
Speaker 3: We need we need, we need enough out here. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We need to give your flowers because one is long overdue.
Speaker 1: Two we want to know your side of the story.
Speaker 1: We didn't want to just base it on a side
Speaker 1: interview with you know, TMZ.
Speaker 7: And then you know you got this side and this side,
Speaker 7: and you know I basically messed with all sides.
Speaker 3: You know, I ain't mat at anybody, and I know
Speaker 3: that we don't want no beef or nothing. I know,
Speaker 3: this is no beef. We just want to continue the
Speaker 3: love the way we the way. This is a safe zone.
Speaker 3: I know this, So that's what.
Speaker 7: But but it's more about giving you your flowers more
Speaker 7: than it's about investigating your situation.
Speaker 1: That situation. You know, we get it. We understand that
Speaker 1: anybody could google it and see that.
Speaker 3: But that's not it.
Speaker 7: What is it is You've gave hip hop so much personally.
Speaker 7: You gave me so much, you gave Joe so much,
Speaker 7: you gave college so much. That's why it was easy
Speaker 7: for when they said, you know, in thirty seconds, you
Speaker 7: know we're gonna put together something for you enough and
Speaker 7: everyone came out to you. So I want to salute
Speaker 7: you face to face, man, the man you know, eye
Speaker 7: to eye, and let you know that what you've done
Speaker 7: for me personally, you know, I know I've been I
Speaker 7: know there's been times I've been yo.
Speaker 3: You know land Like yo, I just landed, man? Please?
Speaker 3: Like what do you do it?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: We hit the you and you shut the fuck up?
Speaker 1: Go on and you'll play my records like all the time.
Speaker 7: And I know if I'm doing it, I know how
Speaker 7: much other people is is and how much you contributed
Speaker 7: to hip hop, Like even Flex. I heard Flex say
Speaker 7: man enough, it was like the first person I seen
Speaker 7: you two or three parties in.
Speaker 3: The same night. Eli. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like and now that's the tradition.
Speaker 7: So we us at drink Chat really wanted to give
Speaker 7: your flowers and tell you how much you mean, tell
Speaker 7: you how.
Speaker 3: And for what you did.
Speaker 1: We are excited to see your next endeavor to where
Speaker 1: you're going from here. We know it's over.
Speaker 7: We know this is the next step on the next
Speaker 7: level of greatness, and we can't we can't wait to
Speaker 7: see it.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna take a couple of pictures and uh,
Speaker 1: we got it, got it, Okay, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on giving people flowers.
Speaker 3: Right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. YouTube.
Speaker 7: And you know we're proud of YouTube, man, because as
Speaker 7: a queen's kid like like, man, you've got a sneaker store, telling.
Speaker 13: Them I got a sneaker store all the right, I
Speaker 13: almost touch a big loose shout to George. You know
Speaker 13: I also have a rest restaurants and queens one in Brooklyn,
Speaker 13: when Williamsburg one coming down the block in Winwood, opening
Speaker 13: up like now, heads up, yes, Rex.
Speaker 3: Shout to Anthony.
Speaker 13: And then I also have two other restaurants called Mojo
Speaker 13: and Foster, those Queens and Long Island and a and
Speaker 13: a piece of shot called Slice that I'm down with,
Speaker 13: ye you know. And everybody asked me, yo, how do
Speaker 13: you do?
Speaker 3: Listen, I don't cook. I don't cook. I'm not you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm part owner. You have last Yeah, I
Speaker 3: would never be able to run a place to do it.
Speaker 13: No, it's my owners that really got to get the
Speaker 13: flowers for that because they do the day to day
Speaker 13: and I'm just down with it. And I'm a partner,
Speaker 13: that's you know, and and and you know this, it's like,
Speaker 13: you know, I'm trying to trying to move out here
Speaker 13: and for my kids and that's it besides d Jane, which.
Speaker 5: Are the kids, bro, that's it?
Speaker 3: Which you know d Jane still in my hawk, like
Speaker 3: that's the number one priority. H Yo.
Speaker 11: This is crazy, Yo, well deserved, guys, brothers both deserve,
Speaker 11: bro Man, shout out to what the flowers.
Speaker 3: Who makes them? Shout out to them ladies and do
Speaker 3: it with the fly flowers.
Speaker 7: That's right, that's right. So before we get about here.
Speaker 7: You know, I'm gonna leave it to you. Is there
Speaker 7: anything you have to say to your fans, to the people,
Speaker 7: to anybody.
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly for an amazing run on the radio.
Speaker 3: But I know, I know you guys said blood work, blood,
Speaker 3: bloodshed and tears. But I have so much fun. It
Speaker 3: didn't even seem that. It didn't even seem like I
Speaker 3: was going to work. And I think the most important
Speaker 3: thing is I was ever to spread the love and
Speaker 3: give people like you a shot. If people like you
Speaker 3: a shot, if people like you are shot, give people
Speaker 3: like you are shat. That means a lot to me.
Speaker 3: And the fact that I can do it every continue, continue,
Speaker 3: That's that's the gist of it, you know. And now
Speaker 3: I want my son to carry the torch and it away,
Speaker 3: so I'm you know, I'm proud of it.
Speaker 1: Ain't your son manager Ice Spice, No, my son's.
Speaker 3: Producer for Ice Spice and a few other artists. He
Speaker 3: got the right us. Just did Chris Brown's latest single
Speaker 3: number which wouldn't want one number one already?
Speaker 22: Und Wow, my little guy on fire, He's on fire.
Speaker 22: You see how that works for making these plans.
Speaker 5: That's carma, bro.
Speaker 3: Great ship. That's it's supposed to happen.
Speaker 17: It's in the blood, in the blood, shut out, Big Spanish,
Speaker 17: Big Spanish.
Speaker 3: As shouts to fan Mas School because you gave me
Speaker 3: my name, Big Span, Big Spanish. Nice all r let's
Speaker 3: take COVID.
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