1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: I Am all in Again. Oh let's just you. 2 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: Hi am all in Again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast. 3 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one 4 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: eleven productions, iHeartRadio, I Heeart Media, I Heart Podcasts, Season one, 5 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: Episode five, Cinnamon's Wake. Air date November two, two thousand. 6 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: I am joined by part of the Intrepid Crew, the 7 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: one and only Susanne French, who has her own feature 8 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: on I Am All In Again and is having a 9 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: great time with Terrist Sude. Suzanne. Hello, tell us a 10 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: little bit about that. How's it going? How are you 11 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: enjoying it? 12 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 4: Hey, Scott, it's good to see you again. I haven't 14 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 4: seen you in forever since we're not. 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: Yes, I miss the old Crow. 16 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 4: But the town meeting is going great. Tara and I 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 4: are having a good time just having a conversation about 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 4: some of the deeper details of the episode. We don't 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 4: have to really dig into the plot that much, so 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 4: we can look at all the other action that's going on. 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 4: So it's going great. We're having a good time, all right. 22 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: Good, Well, the fans seem to be enjoying it, and 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: that's a plus anyway. So you want to go ahead 24 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: and read the synopsis and we'll get into it. 25 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 4: Sure, so you already covered. This is season one, episode five, 26 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 4: Cinnamon's Weak. It aired November two, two thousand. Rory has 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 4: an awkward run in with Dean on the bus, leaving 28 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 4: her flustered. Plus, Rory's English teacher boldly asks Lorlai out, 29 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: catching her off guard, and Stars Hollow gathers for an 30 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 4: unexpectedly heartfelt funeral for Babette's beloved cats. 31 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: Oh Man, Michael Cadaman directed. Dan Palatino wrote it. You know, 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: we're waiting. Greg Henry is supposed to be a guest 33 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: host today, but he's having Internet issues, So we're gonna 34 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: go ahead and plunge forward here. Hopefully he can join 35 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: us at some point. So let's start with the Friday 36 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: night dinner and the Nazi joke. Emily socialized with a 37 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: Nazi joke. 38 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: You know. 39 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: This show, this show, episode five, Suzanne. It seems to 40 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: be you know, finding its legs right, finding its sea 41 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: legs a little bit here, and it's so charming to 42 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: watch because we know, now that I've seen it once 43 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: and you've seen it a million times, we now know 44 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: what it became right, I mean it really did mature 45 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: as the seasons went on, but still, these first five 46 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: episodes are so charming. Yeah, they are so innocent and 47 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: they are so sweet, and it really and the one 48 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: thing that really jumped out at me overall, and then 49 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: we'll get into some of these details, is how the 50 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: Palladinos love to set up this normal, little bit oddball 51 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: world that is so safe and wonderful and charming and adorable. 52 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 4: Yes, it's like a warm hug, yeah, right. 53 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: But they push the envelope on the ethical side, the 54 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: Maxi Medina Lorelei Rory. Right. So that's so they make 55 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: it a little uncomfortable with Miss Patty, they make it 56 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: a little bit uncomfortable with the sexual innuendo and that 57 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: kind of a thing, not the normal thing, you know, 58 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. And in other areas like Luke too, 59 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: he's a little too angry at Sukie And it's like 60 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: this is but it gives this fantasy town a sense 61 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: of of realness that it's real, do you think but interesting? 62 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: It definitely. It's it's like a warm, kind of comforting setting, 63 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: but it has an edge. So yeah, so it like 64 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 4: like you're saying, it kind of like takes you to 65 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: a to a different place. Yeah, so it's you know, 66 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 4: it's it's just good writing. It's always But. 67 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: Isn't it Isn't it wonderful seeing uh the you know, 68 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: one of the first couple of Friday Night Dinners and 69 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: how the tension is between mother and daughter and and 70 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: then poor Rory has to to witness this and be 71 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: exposed to this, and then you know, ends up on 72 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: Emily's side because you know, Emily's smart, and she's quick, 73 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: and she's clever, and she got Laurel. I right, she got, 74 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: she got she shut her out exactly, she used she 75 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: used uh, Laurel's own tactics against her and ended up 76 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: shutting her down a Friday night dinner. But now we're 77 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: seeing the beginnings of this. Uh you know this, this 78 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: this classic Friday Night Dinners and you could you can 79 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: make an entire spin off show about and just call 80 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: it Friday Night Dinner Dinner with Emily and Richard. Right, 81 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: but they discussed there he is. Greg Henry is joining 82 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: us ladies and gentlemen, round of applause for the one 83 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: and only Greg Henry. Hi, Greg, thanks. 84 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: For yeah, yeah, yeah. 85 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: Susan Suzanna French is joining us here and we're getting 86 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: into the first scenes. So did you did you get 87 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: a chance to watch the episode? Greg? Oh yeah, absolutely, 88 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: tell us your tell us your initial thoughts at these 89 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: uh episode five Cinnamon's Wake. You know this, uh, this 90 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: new kind of sensational warm show getting its sea legs, 91 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: and here we are at the beginnings of this. You know, 92 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: it's it hasn't quite matured yet as a show, but 93 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: you can see the DNA is quite quite good. 94 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: Oh yes, spectacular. I mean it's just uh. 95 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: An entirely complete world and it has this wonderful, funny 96 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: vision that everybody is in the same everybody's in the 97 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: same show. 98 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 2: You know, which sometimes that's hard to do in shows. 99 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 3: And it's like, uh, it's it's so wonderful and everybody's 100 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: just so so good in their parts. I just laughed 101 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 3: out loud, spit take laughed a couple of times. 102 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 103 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's always those zingers and very moving. I thought 104 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: too that, I mean, how do you how do you 105 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: shed a tear in the morning? And Halifax Nova Scotia 106 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: over a dead cat, but they managed. 107 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: I was hearing you are somewhere, You're in Halifax. 108 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: I'm in Halifax, and I'm sitting up here, like, you know, 109 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: is that a tear forming in the in the right 110 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: eye and touching? 111 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: It's very touching. 112 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: Uh it's because you know, because for me, it's it's 113 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: Sally Struthers, right, it's it's a situation, but it's Sally 114 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: Struthers lends it such credibility, and it's it's just she's 115 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: such a Yes, she's such she wears her heart on 116 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: her sleeve. She's so funny. She throws a line away 117 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: like we got copons, you know, it's like that's why 118 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: they had the clams and else pancake. It's just she's 119 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: just such a master. Anyway, so we're doing the Friday 120 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: night dinner scene and we know what these Friday night 121 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: dinners turned into. They turned into these epic affairs that 122 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: all the fans look forward to. And Susan helped me out. 123 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: Are they every single episode? Do we see a Friday 124 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: night dinner every single episode? Or they skip some? I 125 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: think there's. 126 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 4: There's some episodes where the timeframe we actually get to 127 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: Friday night dinners, but there are some that we don't 128 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,119 Speaker 4: get one at all. I think I think probably most 129 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 4: episodes have one but not every single one. 130 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: Right, right, and again pushing the envelope with using a 131 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: Nazi joke to socialize at the at the at the 132 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: Friday night dinner. Again, we were talking about putting how 133 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: the show pushes the envelope ethically and taste wise, but 134 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: just a little bit not not It doesn't stretch it 135 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: too far. It always kind of defaults back to this warm, 136 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: odd ball place filled with these wonderful people who It's like, 137 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm watching a show right now, and Greg, I don't 138 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: know about you, but I'm not the demo for this show. 139 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: I was on it, but I'm not. I'm not watching 140 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: this show. And it's like I'm watching the show right now. 141 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 1: That's it's pretty wonderful vibe. It's created because the entire 142 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: town showed up at the wake for a dead cat. 143 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: Who wouldn't want to live in a town like that, right, 144 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: I mean after you get to be a certain age, right. 145 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: She says, our town is so weird, and she says, 146 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: thank God, right. 147 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: Right, all right, So now we're now we're at the 148 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:59,119 Speaker 1: Lorelei's house and she's a little cranky and she's supposed 149 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: to be baking for the Chilton Bake sale, Lane is 150 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: busting down. 151 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: Uh. 152 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: In the Gilmore Girls living room before school the time 153 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: Bomb by Ransid, we see that iconic shot that they 154 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: use in the credit sequence with Lrori's bedroom door opening 155 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: and Lane rocking out. We see I Bet and Maury 156 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: walking Cinema's an ill. Uh. What do you say? Dyspeptic? 157 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: Cinnamon was dyspeptic? Isn't walking very well? Had some clams 158 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: at Al's pancake where all everybody's not feeling good. And 159 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: then Rory waits for the bus and Dean spots are 160 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: uh and and then sits on the bus behind it. 161 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: What did you think of that? Guys? You know, Dean 162 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: was coming off like such the mysterious cool guy right 163 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: up to this point and then he just sort of 164 00:09:55,200 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: like jumps on the bus and what do you I 165 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: think he was a little was she a little annoyed 166 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: or was she playing it like she was she just 167 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: sort of froze up because she likes the guy. 168 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 4: She seemed a little disturbed by it. Yeah, she did, right, 169 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 4: But I thought it was cute, Like I didn't think 170 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 4: it was creepy or anything like that. I mean, you know, 171 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: he got on and said hi, and then he got 172 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: off the next stop. I didn't. I didn't have a 173 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 4: problem with it, but she seemed a little like, what 174 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 4: are you doing? Like startled by it? 175 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: Right right? And at this point we know that this 176 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: is this is a show that is establishing these generations. 177 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: It's Emily, it's it's Laurel I, it's Rory. This is 178 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: where these we're going to inhabit these worlds, and they're 179 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: you know, Laurel I is going to inhabit every world 180 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: in the show. Rory's going to inhabit a lot of 181 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: the worlds. Emily is going to stay in her own world, 182 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: and when she comes into stars Hollow, that's you know, 183 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: that's like another planet for her. But we're establishing now 184 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: what this whole journey is about, and it's about, you know, 185 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: at this point, girls meeting boys and being asked out 186 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: and Greg, I remember the first time around, first go round, 187 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: when we three years ago, when we broke down this episode, 188 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: I had a big problem with Max Medina and I 189 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: had a big problem with Laura Lei actually agreeing to 190 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:39,479 Speaker 1: date him. What are your initial thoughts about that whole narrative. 191 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 2: Well, your thoughts might have been colored by the we've 192 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 2: been playing the competition, you know, but. 193 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: What it is it is an interesting dilemma, you know 194 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 3: in terms of a teacher and and and a student 195 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 3: and uh and. 196 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: Then the parents of that student. That's that is interesting. 197 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 3: And I thought that they I thought that they played 198 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 3: it really nicely in terms of they they they dragged 199 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: it out and they they made her. 200 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: Meeting of it very official. But then. 201 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: The discovery during the during during Cinnamon's weight that then 202 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: triggers actually being truthful about it and upfront about it 203 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: or or not withholding as she said, not withholding information. 204 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 2: Uh. 205 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 3: I thought it was I thought it was good because 206 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: it pointed out that those kind of things are like 207 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 3: they're they're difficult to have, but they there must be 208 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: had those conversations and that uh. 209 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: And that these this is this is a very loving and. 210 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 3: Smart uh mother daughter and and I thought it played well. 211 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: I I like mm hmm second time around. Uh yeah, 212 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: I like Max I I you know, I feel him. 213 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: How can you blame him? Right? I mean, you've got 214 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: a woman like that and he's just gaga for her. 215 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: Just wow, she's beautiful, she's smart, she's funny, she's her 216 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: own person. There's a real strength coming out of her. 217 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: At the same time, there's this irresistible vulnerability and flashing 218 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: those eyes at him, and it's just like, you know, 219 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: how you gonna how are you gonna not ask her 220 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: out right? And he's he's crossing a line and and 221 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: she's crossing a line. And but such such a great 222 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: love affair is made of the same stuff, right, That's 223 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: that's got a lot of potential. There a lot of potential. 224 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 4: One thing I noticed in this rewatch that I haven't 225 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 4: noticed previously is the parallel between Max being so persistent 226 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 4: and she's resisting, resisting, resis and then she finally caves in. 227 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 4: It reminded me of season seven when she's in Paris 228 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 4: with Christopher and he's like, marry me, marry me, marry me. 229 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 4: She's like, no, no, we can't, blah blah, and then 230 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 4: she at the end she caves in and ends up 231 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: Mary and Christopher. So I actually liked it less this 232 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: time than on previous watches because I did think Max 233 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 4: was being a little pushy, and I kind of felt 234 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 4: bad for Rory because she's struggling at this school. She 235 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: kind of feels like everybody's against her, and now her 236 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 4: mom is going to date her teacher and she was 237 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: completely blindsided by it. I felt a little bad. 238 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: For Rory, but I bought into the max vibe because 239 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: it's a guy who I mean, he wanted to marry her. 240 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: Did you get that sense like I have found somebody 241 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: very very special? And I think maybe that was the 242 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: point of of that storyline, is like this is how 243 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: special she is. Where this guy goes this nut's over 244 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: her and they're both going to cross these lines, and 245 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: you know, Ry's just gonna have to deal with it 246 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: because she's going to get it from both sides. She's 247 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: going to get it at school and she's going to 248 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: get it at home. 249 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's not really fair to her. 250 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: It's not. It's not, but it does speak of the 251 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: level of attraction between these two. So I'm kind of 252 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: down with it now. 253 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, there was definite attraction there, for sure. I just 254 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 4: felt like they could have not acted on it while. 255 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: He is her teacher. 256 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 4: I felt bad for her at the end when when 257 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 4: Laura was putting all of it on Rory and saying, well, 258 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 4: I won't date him if you don't want me to, 259 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: Like that wasn't really fair to put that on Rory's 260 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 4: shoulders because what she's supposed to say, like she didn't 261 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 4: want her mom to be unhappy. So I don't know, 262 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: I just saw it differently this time around than I 263 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 4: have in the past. 264 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: It's almost like they were of like roommates and contemporaries, 265 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: and it's like, look, I'm going to date him. I 266 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: know you like him, but I'm going to date him first. 267 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 5: You know. 268 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: It was almost on that level, and it really blurred 269 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: the lines between mother and daughter. 270 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, Laurela, I was definitely not thinking on a 271 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 4: parental level. 272 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: Right, Still charming, uh, still still kind of dig Max Medina. 273 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,119 Speaker 1: You know, I like it. I know it's ethically strained 274 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: and it's it did stress me out, the touching of 275 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: the elbow and the whole thing. But he was really 276 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: rubbing her arm. Man, he was going for that arm. 277 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: The arm rub. It kind of got to me too. 278 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: You're right, I will say it was a little forward. 279 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: It was kind of an aggressive choice in that particular setting. 280 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: But but he. 281 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: Just, man, he wanted to close that deal, and. 282 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: He was like he wanted to close it. 283 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, he couldn't stop himself. He was just like, I 284 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: want you and I want to date you and this 285 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: is messed up, and I know it. It's going to 286 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: mess up your daughter maybe, But Jane, we're gonna be together. 287 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: We're all going to be together. 288 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: You know. 289 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: I love your babe, and let's do this. I don't know, 290 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: all right. Then the French group comes into the end 291 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: and Michelle hysterically tells them with a French accent, a 292 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: very thick French accent, that he's from Texas, and he 293 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: refuses to talk to them. 294 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 4: He never disappoints. 295 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: I swear he really does. He really does. Yeah, these 296 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: early episodes, he's got some of the best Michelle stuff 297 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: there is in the whole library of episodes. And now 298 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: we see, you know, larelized wacky world inside that independence end, 299 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: and we want to keep going back. I like how 300 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: they just give us little tastes of it, keep us 301 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: wanting more. Shows very good at doing that. All right, 302 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: Let's go to the bake sale, Susanne, and why don't 303 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: you take over the section and take us through the 304 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: bake sale? 305 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 4: Okay, So I liked the bake sale. I thought that 306 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 4: was a fun scene. It was a shot at Greystone, 307 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 4: which which they used for Chiltern. Suki has I thought 308 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 4: it was the perfect idea to have Suki make all 309 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 4: the baked goods because Lorela is not going to make 310 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: anything that is going to meet the standards of this 311 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 4: chiltin crowd, Right, so Suki's got you know, her taste, 312 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 4: sensations and all this. It was perfect. And then but 313 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 4: then she lights the table on fire, so it was 314 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 4: it was just it was just classic Suki. I thought, 315 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 4: you know, she's they established her as accident prona, kind 316 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 4: of clumsy, and uh it was. It was perfectly in 317 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 4: character for her. So I enjoyed that. And then we 318 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 4: see Max. This is where we get the for all 319 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 4: the fans, this is the iconic line, do you like 320 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 4: coffee only with my oxygen? This was the scene was 321 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 4: the source of that line. So that was fun to 322 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 4: see that. And then you know, Max says that there's 323 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: nothing in the Chiltern rules that prohibits a teacher from 324 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 4: dating a parent, which it's hard to believe that, they're. 325 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to believe. Yeah, but parents as paying 326 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: what fifty sixty dollars a year? Yeah, would you would 327 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: think that it's a clause right, right? Paperwork? Yeah? 328 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, And this is where he starts the hard court 329 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 4: Press about Yeah, you. 330 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: Know what, Greg, I want to talk about Lauren Graham. 331 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: I'm want to talk about her skill set, and ladies 332 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: and gentlemen listen to me. And Greg Henry is one 333 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: of the great talents over the past I don't know, 334 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: forty years working in film and television. And the first 335 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: time I be became aware of Greg Henry because I 336 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: want to ask you about Lauren's skill set. But I 337 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: want to set you up because when I became aware 338 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: of you for the first time, uh, and I didn't 339 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: know who you were, and I hadn't seen you in 340 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: anything prior. But you weren't Scarface with al Pacino and 341 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: you did a scene out you right, right, but okay, 342 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: but that's my point. My point is, And you were 343 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: from the State Department, right, You were representing the State Department. 344 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: You were in the the Colombian drug lords living room. 345 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: Al Pacino was in big trouble. He needed help and 346 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: he was gonna he flew to Columbia to get to 347 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: get help. And you were introduced to Tony Montana. And 348 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: this is what was your character's name in in Scarface. 349 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: Smith, mister Smith from Washington, right. 350 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: And this is mister Smith from from Washington. They say 351 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: State Department from Washington. 352 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 2: They just say from Washington. I don't think from Washington. 353 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know. I don't think you had a line, 354 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: but I'll never forget a the suit you were wearing, 355 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: the way you shook al Pacino's hand, and the way 356 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: you looked at him, and it was like, wow, that's 357 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: an actor. 358 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 2: I did have. 359 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: Oh did you? 360 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 2: The line was how do you do mister Montana? Right there? 361 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: Yes, how do you do mister? But it was just 362 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: just so impactful. And I love when I see actors 363 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: know the you know, the old saying there's no such 364 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: thing as a small role. There are only small actors. 365 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: You took that role, owned it, and man it was. 366 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: It was powerful, and it always every time I see 367 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: that film, and I you know, I watched it a 368 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: couple times a year because it's such a great film, 369 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: and you like to revisit these great films. Always look 370 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: forward to that scene. And I said, wait here comes 371 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: Greg Henry. He's gonna shake his hand, he's gonna shake 372 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: his hairs. Look at that. So just you have to 373 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: have real experience and a real skill set to take 374 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: something seemingly so minuscule in a film. But tell a 375 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: story with your body, and tell a story with your mind. 376 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: And that's what you did, and that's what you do 377 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: so well. Tell us about Lauren Graham and how great 378 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: a comedic and dramatic actors she is a thing she 379 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: was doing with the scenes with Maxi Medina. 380 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: Well, she's uh, she's quite magical. She lives. 381 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 3: She she is always in the moment. Everything is like 382 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 3: coming right coming right from her being, right from where 383 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 3: she's sitting there and from her understanding of of of 384 00:22:55,040 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 3: Laura Lai and uh and and and that's why it 385 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 3: appears so effortless. But it's not easy. But but but 386 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: she uh, she. 387 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: Just allows herself. 388 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 3: And and she allows herself these impulses, and the impulses 389 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 3: are what are so surprising. The impulses are what surprising 390 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 3: in the throw or the or the delivery or the 391 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: or the intent, you know. And she's very comfortable in 392 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: her knowledge of her whole world, which is uh, which 393 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: also kind of informs everything. 394 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: And it's uh. And she just has a great sense 395 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 2: of humor too. 396 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 3: She's very you know, very on top of it in 397 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 3: terms of how she plays everything as every as really 398 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: everyone is in this show. 399 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: But and I. 400 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 6: Uh and and you're right that it that it you 401 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 6: know that you can find yourself in in Halifax in 402 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 6: the morning missing up that it's because it's because it's 403 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 6: it's so real, because it's so just from the being uh. 404 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 3: You know, just just you know, a slight look, a 405 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 3: slight you know, lift of a word, you know, those. 406 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 2: Things surprise you. And and the surprising things are makes 407 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: this stuff happen in the eyes. 408 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: I think interesting how they shoot it too. I think 409 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: they really gave us a gift by not being obsessed 410 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: with you know, too much coverage and too many close 411 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: ups and you know, you know, dirty over the shoulder 412 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: close ups and then totally clean close ups and we're 413 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: going to punch in even further and further and further, 414 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, and it just becomes so restricted. And how 415 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: this is a little looser, you know, it's in people 416 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: are able to sort of you're able to see people 417 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: living and acting together in the scenes more in this show, 418 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: so it almost seems like it's it's it's more real life. Greg. Also, 419 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: when you're a lot of fans wanted to know when 420 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: you're preparing your scene work for Mitcham Huntsberger. Are you 421 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: Are you loving it as much as I think you 422 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: are because you get to say that stuff and be 423 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: that guy? And are you having as much fun as 424 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: I think you are when you're actually acting it? 425 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: Oh? 426 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, Mitcham was tremendous fun. It was just great words 427 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 3: and a great character and. 428 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 2: Uh you know, and. 429 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 3: I was I was just sort of like I just 430 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 3: went on a thing in Connecticut for the Gilmour Girls 431 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 3: and we sort of the so that we talked about 432 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 3: you know that that you don't Got it line, which 433 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: of course is you know, there was like there I 434 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 3: would get like glares from women in the in the 435 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 3: grocery store, you know, and I'm like, you know, it 436 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 3: must be one of those violent killers I play that 437 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 3: they hate. 438 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: No, no, Mitchellsburger. 439 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 3: And uh so, but we got into that a little bit, 440 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: and and you know, I think Mitcham was you know, 441 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 3: That's that's the great thing about the writing is that 442 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 3: it's from a very very real place. 443 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 2: There's like all kinds of just tough love being offered there. 444 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: You know. Was it colored a little bit, you know 445 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 2: with his opinion, sure, but but it was a lot 446 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: of fun. 447 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 3: And and I rewatched sort of the episodes, and and 448 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: I remember the scene and with with Ed Herman, which 449 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 3: was which was a lot of fun. And and I 450 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: believe that's that's kind of the coldest that Mitcham ever 451 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 3: gets is in that scene with Ed in the in 452 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 3: the in the restroom, he's he's funny, he's kind of charming, 453 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 3: but he's you see him like bring kind of the 454 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 3: power hammer down, you know. And and that was an 455 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 3: interesting flavor too. 456 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: But the main thing is the writing. The writing is just, 457 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 2: you know, so rich, it's so wonderful. 458 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: Yeah it is. Yeah, I'll never forget that scene. I'll 459 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: never stop and enjoining, you know, speeding up that particular 460 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: episode you were in when you came and and you 461 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: and uh and Maddie had had a real, real, real 462 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: shouting match with each other. 463 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: I was to toe, wasn't it. 464 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: I was. I was just as good as it gets. 465 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: I was just like and it's when I that scene 466 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: made me realize. I mean, I always knew how good 467 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: you were, but that scene made me realize how good 468 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: Maddie is. Yeah, boy man, it was like, how do 469 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: you stand toe to toe with Greg Henry and just 470 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: keep delivering shots. It's just it's because you're fast, man, 471 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: you're on it. And if you're not on it, man, 472 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: Greg Henry is going to eat your lunch. You're not 473 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: going to be able to keep up. It's just. 474 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: Very, very wonderful, wonderful guy too. 475 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: I like him, Yes, great guy. Absolutely, he's a friend 476 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: of the show. He's been on a couple of times. 477 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: I run into you know, I run into him once 478 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: in a while at conventions. It's always good to see him. 479 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: So we're uh walking through Stars Hollow Dosie's market. Now 480 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: we go inside. Miss Patty is there, and now we 481 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: see Kirk. Susanne take us to Kirk and miss Miss 482 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 1: Patty encounter. 483 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 4: This is an interesting scene because Kirk and Miss Patty 484 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 4: don't seem to know each other, which as the as 485 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 4: the series progresses, we know that they've both lived in 486 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 4: Stars Hollow forever. Miss Patty even makes some comment about it, 487 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 4: you know, having Kirk in a class when he was 488 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 4: a child. So it's a little bit of that kind 489 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 4: of early on where we're trying to settle all the 490 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 4: characters and they haven't quite figured out where everybody fits 491 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,239 Speaker 4: yet because it's not consistent. Later in the show that 492 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 4: the two of them are strangers to each other, but 493 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 4: just some funny, you know, double entendra suggestive banter about 494 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 4: putting things in their mouths, and it's a funny scene. 495 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 4: Like it was. It's a great scene when the plums 496 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 4: and Miss Patty's talking to Rory and Rory's like looking 497 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 4: really uncomfortable. It's just classic town kind of stuff. We've 498 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 4: talked on this podcast before about how the town itself 499 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 4: is a character and and you know all of these 500 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 4: crazy people that live there and they all have their 501 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 4: their individual quirks. In this scene, I think is a 502 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 4: perfect embodiment of that. And Rory shows up at the 503 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 4: cashier with a head of lettuce and a mouse trap 504 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 4: and a dollar like it's just it's just it's just 505 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 4: a great scene. I it's I thought it was funny. 506 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and no a maoutter. How bizarre they are. You know, 507 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: you got to bet and Maury. They're full of heart 508 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: and soul. And Miss Patty if there's all this sexual 509 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: sexual innuendo that you may make some people uncomfortable or 510 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: deem inappropriate, she's full of heart and soul right now. 511 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, she loves everybody. Everybody 512 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,479 Speaker 1: loves her, but everybody has their quirks and they're accepted 513 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: for it. So it's it's it's it's a nice feeling. 514 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: It's a nice place. There's real freedom in there. 515 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 4: One thing that that we noted too, is that we've 516 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 4: established Doci's Market as kind of a central place in 517 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 4: the town. But we haven't even met Taylor yet. Taylor, 518 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 4: we haven't wait a long until episode like seven or eight. 519 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: I think, Oh, is that right? 520 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's interesting that we were more familiar with 521 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 4: the market itself than we are with Taylor yet at the. 522 00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: Great Michael Winters, Yes, so we'll see him soon. Good Greg. 523 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: What do you think of the coffee date when Max 524 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: Medina and Laurel I meet after her college course business course? 525 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: What you what do you think of that? This is 526 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 1: the arm rubbing? 527 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: We already referred to this that I did. 528 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 3: I did find the arm choice a little a little pressing, uh, 529 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 3: kind of kind of bold, kind of very but but 530 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 3: I did like that they set it up there, that 531 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: it was a coffee date. And she says, you know, 532 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 3: I just happened to be there at four four twelve 533 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: every day or whatever, and and I thought that that 534 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: was charming. But you see, but the way they play together, 535 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 3: uh uh, Scott Moore is very you know, it's got 536 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 3: that sparkle, it's got that it's got that that stuff. 537 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: You know that there's like real, real juice here, you know. 538 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 2: And uh and I thought that it and I thought 539 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: that it played played well, you know the arm thing. 540 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 2: I thought, well, I don't I see, I didn't know 541 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: how how it was going to end at the end, 542 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: you know, So there was a little bit of suspense there. 543 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 3: For me with with when he was going for the army, like, oh, 544 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 3: that might be she might just say, nope, I'm sorry, 545 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: I'm giving my arm back. But but uh, but it 546 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,479 Speaker 3: turned out to be the opposite of that. That it's 547 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: like kind of a boulder choice and and and uh 548 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: that makes us go that. 549 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: Direction because he certainly you know. And she liked it. 550 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: She looked at down, She looked down and smiled, and 551 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: she liked it like a guy taking charge here, you know. 552 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: And uh, ash, she said, you know, it's it's been 553 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: a long time since she's dated somebody, seriously, you know 554 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: what I mean. And uh, anyway, yeah, I I it's 555 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: when I I found my love for Max Medina. You 556 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: gotta respect the guy who can just throw it down 557 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: like that and then match witzwe her like that and 558 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: tongue tire and then she was like, all right, here's 559 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: a card I'm getting out of here. Call me. 560 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 3: So great into that too is like round one and 561 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 3: you're already you know that. 562 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: They both right compelling, compelling, And then that guy sits 563 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: down in the middle of the guy with that giant 564 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: face a face a face yeah. I mean, the guy 565 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: didn't have to say a word. It was hysterical. And 566 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,719 Speaker 1: then he got the point and left, all right, we're going, 567 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: let's go to the diner. Susan takes Susan takes to 568 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: the diner, Luke's Diner. 569 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 4: Okay, so Luke's Diner. I loved the banter between Suki 570 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 4: and Luke in this scene, they're sitting at the counter. 571 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 4: There's an issue with there's no onions on the burger, 572 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 4: and so Suki takes it upon herself to doctor up 573 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 4: everyone's food that's that's sitting there at the bar, which 574 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 4: Luke does not take kindly to, and the makes that 575 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 4: comment you bring her in here again, I want her 576 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 4: on a leash. That was a good lie and then 577 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 4: at the at the end of the scene is when 578 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 4: Rory comes in to say that something happened to Cinnamon. 579 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 4: So it kind of ends on a down or note. 580 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 4: But I thought it was a funny scene. Lorel is 581 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 4: trying to kind of think through the scenario and what 582 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 4: does she want to do with Max and what does 583 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 4: she not want to do with Max? And it was 584 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 4: a good scene. 585 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: The one thing that surprised me about that scene was 586 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: Luke had a funny line in the beginning of it 587 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: when they're kind of oddball conversation that they were not 588 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: connecting on and Suki didn't get and look, just chimes 589 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: and how do you guys get any work done? I mean, 590 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: when the Palladinos throw you a good line, man, you 591 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: just hope you don't blow it right. It just you 592 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: hope you hit it right. 593 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 7: Man. 594 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: Such a gift they give you, such gifts. 595 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 4: And yeah, he was the guy at the counter that 596 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 4: Lorla I was saying, well, you know, it would be 597 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 4: nice to get some, you know, and then like, I 598 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 4: don't know, and the guy next to him is like, 599 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 4: I know. 600 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: The one that Michelle referred to it the way, because yo, 601 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: hehaw Man from the same guy. Okay, so now we 602 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: are actually at bet Morey's house. Cinnamon's gone, ma he 603 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: thinks it was the clams. I thought this was one 604 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: of the more comical and touching scenes with the description 605 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: of the cat sliding across on the west floor. Oh man, Greg, God, Greg, 606 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: take take this one. Take this one. 607 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 7: Well, Sally stra and she says she came him a 608 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 7: nudge and then a further nudge, and I just waxed 609 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 7: the floors and he went sliding. 610 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 2: The cross hit the lamp and that's. 611 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: What I knew. 612 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 8: Oh my god, I howled it down. I watched it twice. 613 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 8: I I like, I gotta roll it back and watch 614 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,479 Speaker 8: it again. And it was just as funny. Oh god, 615 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 8: oh Mercy, that was funny. 616 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: And you know Sally magic. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's magic. 617 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: She's magic. 618 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 3: Well, then when it goes into the you know, when 619 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 3: she's going through all the medications that she gave the cat, 620 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 3: you know, each one, you know, and then finding the 621 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 3: one that's for her, it's like, it's it's as you 622 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 3: say about her earlier. I mean, it's it's it's quite comical, 623 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 3: but it's also it's just it's just touching you know. 624 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: That woman can make you laugh and cry at the 625 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: same time. Yes, that is rare. She's I don't know, 626 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 1: Sally Struthers to me is everything that's right about acting. 627 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: And even even even the nurse that came or the 628 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: medical person who came to take the cat away, or 629 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: you know, even she has gets a great line. You know, 630 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: the cat was two hundred and sixty years old in 631 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: human years, so you know, I mean, it's just the 632 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: Palatinas are very generous. They probably have so much wit 633 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 1: and so much comedy inside them. They you know, imagine 634 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: being with them for a day. And I was, so 635 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of great. All right, Suzanne, take us through 636 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: the wake. Now we are at the entitled scene. 637 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 4: So, yeah, the wake was such a great scene with 638 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 4: all of the town coming together for this cat, and 639 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 4: it's in this crazy house with the low ceilings and 640 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 4: the pull away. It just was so quirky. And the 641 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 4: Suki there's more Suki and Luke Banner was setting up 642 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 4: the food and you know, Suki's describing exactly how everything's 643 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 4: going to be and Luke's just like digging it in. 644 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: But what about the visual when they both get stuck 645 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 1: in the door competing. That was classic. 646 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just everything about this scene I loved. And 647 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 4: you know, Rory was all flustered by Dan and she 648 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 4: tells Laura, I go to Chilton now, like she's she's 649 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 4: just so gobsmacked by running into Dean. And then there's 650 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 4: you know, funny banter between Kirk and Miss Patty. 651 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: He apologizes, yeah. 652 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 4: And yeah, he apologizes for because he didn't know she 653 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 4: was the Miss Patty. And then we have at the 654 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 4: same part the scene where they're doing the dishes, and 655 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 4: like you were saying, Scott, this is where she's funny 656 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 4: and sad at the same time. She cracks that joke 657 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 4: about Lorla's ass, like just hilarious, and then she's crying 658 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,720 Speaker 4: in the next sentence, like it just it was great. 659 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: She's a master. She's just a master. 660 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no one else that I can think of 661 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 4: that could have played that role. She just is amazing. 662 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: But believe it or not, they are out there. There's 663 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: there's actresses out there you've never heard of that do that. 664 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, No, there's all kinds of these brilliant 665 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: theater actresses that you just you know, they're not famous, 666 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,439 Speaker 1: but they're so good. Right, you know, and you see 667 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: them if you go to regional theater, you see them. 668 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 4: That's the thing with acting, Like I'm I'm not an actress. 669 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 4: I'm not in the entertainment industry aside from being on 670 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 4: this podcast. But I always think that there's so much 671 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 4: talent out there, and it's it's sometimes it just comes 672 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 4: down to lock. Like somebody got a lucky break and 673 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 4: someone else doesn't. Doesn't mean that they're less talented. It 674 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 4: just means that they didn't get that chance. 675 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: It just it just shows you how specific casting can be. Yeah, 676 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: on the great shows, the memorable shows, you know, the 677 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: historic shows, the casting is so ultraspecific. You can be 678 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, ninety nine point nine nine percent perfect for 679 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: the role, but then a guy walks in who's one 680 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 1: hundred percent. You know. It's it's that subtle. I think 681 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: that's what the show accomplishes. So well, anyway, continue I no. 682 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 4: So then also the Wake is where Rory finally kind 683 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 4: of connects with Dean because he's going to walk away 684 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 4: right He's like, I'm sorry, I bugged you. I can 685 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 4: see you're not interested. I'll leave you alone, and she's 686 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 4: like wait no, like she finally overcomes her shyness and 687 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 4: is able to connect with him and express that she's 688 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,919 Speaker 4: interested too, So that obviously going to set the tone 689 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 4: for the whole rest of the season. And then kind 690 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 4: of wraps up with loral I seeing Max on the 691 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 4: front porch and she's like, oh crap, that was tonight. 692 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 4: And so then we have the Laurel I Rory conversation. 693 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 4: You know, Rory's like, when were you going to tell 694 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 4: me this? Which was a valid point. So yeah, this 695 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 4: whole weake scene was really the whole crux of the episode. 696 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, the ending scene with uh Lorale sort of 697 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 1: almost pleading with her daughter for permission to date Max. 698 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: I think very clever device because if and very risky, right, 699 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: I mean, talk about taking a chance as artists as 700 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: writers to pull this off, right, because it's on its face, 701 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: it's uncomfortable to see this conversation, but it opens up 702 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: a whole sea of possibilities for where the show can 703 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: go and what's acceptable because I think they pushed the 704 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: envelope really far on this one, but it worked. It 705 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: just kind of works because they just love each other 706 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: so much. We are trained as an audience to expect 707 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: that this folks, This ain't your traditional mother daughter relationships. 708 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: This is going to be a little different experience for y'all, right, 709 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: and that's what we get in this conversation. And this 710 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: is you know, possible but probable, probable but not possible. No, 711 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: it is, it's happening, and there we have it. So 712 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: they're laying it all out for us and saying this 713 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: is a little different and accept it or not, but 714 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 1: this is where we're going with this bravely forward. 715 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 4: I think to some extent that's kind of a normal 716 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 4: progression because we know that when Rory was younger, Rory 717 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 4: and Lorelai were like best buds, they were pals. They 718 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 4: weren't so much mother and daughter. But now Rory is 719 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 4: a teenager, she's starting to, you know, have romantic feelings 720 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 4: for a boy. Laurela's having romantic feelings like So now 721 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 4: we're kind of moving into a more adult phase. And 722 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 4: now they have to negotiate that transition from maybe not 723 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 4: a transition, but the parallel existence of a friend friendship 724 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 4: as well as a parent child relationship. It's kind of 725 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 4: that setting up that conflict and how are they going 726 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 4: to get through that? 727 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: You know, what you should have your own podcast. Oh 728 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: you do, Sorry, Greg. When you were a kid, were 729 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: you a Dean? Were you were you a Jess Or 730 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: were you a Matt or neither? Neither? 731 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 2: Neither? 732 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, really really neither. 733 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: Were you a Maxi Medina? 734 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 2: I was definitely not a Max Medina. I never off 735 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 2: that arm. 736 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: Were you Were you a Luke Danes? 737 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 3: You know, I have limited sort of knowledge in terms 738 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 3: of the team Luke Tine Dean thing. 739 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 2: And so I'm going to go that I was closer. 740 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 3: With with Maddie Alphabet. You know, I don't know, I 741 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 3: think because he's you know, I was a very sort 742 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 3: of proper kind of kid, and and I think that 743 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 3: that is what he is. 744 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 2: We laid or learned, maybe not as proper as we 745 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 2: once knew, I think. 746 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 3: But so I think that's and and uh and uh 747 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 3: you know the bus. 748 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 2: The bus move. Also it's a very bold move, the 749 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 2: bus move and the r move. 750 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 3: These guys are like, you know, they're coming in and uh, 751 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 3: taking chances. 752 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 2: So I don't think. I think I was probably more Maddy. 753 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 4: Before we go, I have a question for Greg. So 754 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 4: another element of our podcast is that we have two 755 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 4: other hosts that are rewatching Bunheads. 756 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, which, of course you. 757 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 4: Were in Bunheads and the character of Rico is so 758 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 4: different from mitcham Huntsberger that one of our hosts, Danielle, 759 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 4: didn't even realize it was you playing the role until 760 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 4: someone told her. So I just wanted to see, Like, 761 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 4: having now worked on two different Amy Sherman Palladino shows, 762 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 4: and Bunheads has a lot of similar Gilmore elements, you know, 763 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 4: strong female relationships, quirky town, all that kind of stuff. 764 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 4: What was it like being on both of those sets? 765 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 4: Was it was it a similar atmosphere or was Bunheads 766 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 4: different than Gilmore? Like, what were your thoughts having worked 767 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 4: on two shows with with that crew? 768 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 2: Oh, well, it was it was a similar few feeling, 769 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 2: it was. It was a it was a pretty warm set, 770 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 2: you know, and I think Gilmore Girls was more easy. 771 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 3: It was more and you know, they've been doing it 772 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 3: for five years by the time I got there, so. 773 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 774 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and kind of in the crunch of being a 775 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 3: new show, and so it was you know, that was 776 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 3: that was in the air. 777 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,720 Speaker 5: But you know, uh, everybody was, you know, wonderful. Sutton 778 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 5: was was wonderful and of course, Amen, Dan, And I'm 779 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 5: just trying to remember, but yeah, I. 780 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 2: Would say that that's that's the difference. That's the difference 781 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 2: between the two. Is one one you kind of your 782 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 2: shoulders are a little higher, you know, than they were 783 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 2: in the other one. 784 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, makes sense. 785 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: Well, I Greg, you're going to join us December eighteenth 786 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: for a live podcast as at Warner Brothers. Uh, looking 787 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: very much forward to that, and Uh, we're just going 788 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: to have a good time over there. 789 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 2: No, you know, does is mean I have to get 790 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 2: my computer to work again or if I join you, 791 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 2: I'm joining you and at Warner Brothers. Am I not? 792 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah that's what I thought. 793 00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're going to be there. 794 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 2: That's you're person to person. 795 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 1: You're taking the stage. Man, you can take it over. 796 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: You're gonna come up there and take over. You know. 797 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun. 798 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. Anyway, Thank 799 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: you so much for your time, Greg. Looking forward to 800 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: seeing you in December. 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