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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I'm Dale Lulli.

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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt heard from Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin today and uh, well it was. It was a

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Speaker 2: thirty five minute long press conference in which and I've

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Speaker 2: covered every press conference that Mike Tomlin has ever had,

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Speaker 2: and I have to tell you that, you know, I

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Speaker 2: thought he was more insightful, retrospective, just everything across the

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Speaker 2: board really and I think he's ever been before.

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Speaker 3: I haven't listened to it. In a full disclosure, I'm

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Speaker 3: going to on my way home from here. But that's

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Speaker 3: a long time and you know, I'm curious what your

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Speaker 3: thoughts are. I mean, we'll talk about the things he said,

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Speaker 3: but I mean just a kind of a wise step

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Speaker 1: It or yeah, you know, I think you know, he

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Speaker 1: talked about it.

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Speaker 2: You know, he opened with with say, hey, look, I

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Speaker 2: apologize for walking out of the press conference after the game,

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Speaker 2: but the you know, the emotions were still there. I

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Speaker 2: didn't think that was the appropriate place to ask that

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Speaker 2: question ten minutes after a season ending as ye absolutely,

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Speaker 2: you know, he said, I could have handled it better,

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Speaker 2: but it is what it is, he said.

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Speaker 1: You know, Look, I I you know, I hurt for

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Speaker 1: the guys in that room at that point. I know

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Speaker 1: how much we put into it as a group.

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Speaker 2: We came up short. And he said, but I appreciated

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Speaker 2: everybody's efforts, you know, all that kind of stuff. And

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Speaker 2: then he got into the the some of the stuff

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Speaker 2: with the heading into the off season here, and you know,

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Speaker 2: he said he's he's going to start looking for a

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Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator. And I asked him, you know, is

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Speaker 2: does that mean that you are not going to consider

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Speaker 2: Eddie Faulkner or Mike Sullivan for that job. And he said, no, not,

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Speaker 2: We're not going to do that. We're going to look outside,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to look outside for a veteran offensive

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we should give those two credit. Though

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Speaker 3: they got thrown into a really, really difficult situation and

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Speaker 3: the offense improved, I think that they were assets. Maybe

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Speaker 3: they're back on staff, who knows. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: he talked about that stuff or not.

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Speaker 2: Didn't ask him that. I mean, that's usually so part

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Speaker 2: of the job of being the offensive coordinator is running

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Speaker 2: the staff.

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Speaker 3: Sure during the week, you know, you're in charge of

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Speaker 3: breaking up blitzes, and you're in charge.

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Speaker 2: Of and you know, managed that part of the staff,

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Speaker 2: and the defensive coordinator manages the defensive assistance.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, ain't Tomlin, you know, the head coach oversees at all.

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Speaker 2: I would think it would be difficult, for example, to

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Speaker 2: bring back Sullivan just because your offensive coordinator is gonna

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Speaker 2: probably want somebody in there that that he knows or

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Speaker 2: has worked with. I would imagine that that, you know, Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is this is how we teach my system, how

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Speaker 2: we how we you know, how we do these things.

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Speaker 2: This is what we're looking for in the system. Now,

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Speaker 2: maybe that is Sullivan. Maybe it's somebody Sullivan's worked with

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Speaker 2: in the past. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: These guys all have worked together, thinking as.

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Speaker 3: You and there's a huge change on the side of

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Speaker 3: like the Browns are going to bring back the O

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Speaker 3: line coach and that's it. Yeah, I mean that's not

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Speaker 3: uncommon at all. So he did say something along the

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Speaker 1: Who has experience as a play.

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Speaker 3: Caller, Okay, so I mean the options are limitless.

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Speaker 2: I mean because I mean if so, both Matt Canada

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Speaker 2: and Randy Fekner. And when I say, you know, having

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Speaker 2: both Matt Canada and Randy Feikner, his last two offensive

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Speaker 2: at the college level. They hadn't done in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: But he did say at the NFL level, did you

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Speaker 3: specify that today?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, interesting?

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Speaker 3: So I think you like hearing that.

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Speaker 2: I think that narrows down the scope of where you're

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Speaker 2: looking as well. And he said, he's he's he's kind

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Speaker 3: That's another thing that people don't think about, especially when

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Speaker 3: you're interviewing head coaches, but certainly any prominent coaching position

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Speaker 3: like a coordinator, GM, et cetera. The organization takes something

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Speaker 3: that's an interesting way of doing that. Maybe we're not

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Speaker 3: going to hire you, but that's a good way of

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Speaker 3: solving this problem that we hadn't thought of, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so getting all the input you possibly can

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Speaker 3: makes all the sense in the world, and.

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Speaker 2: It also gives you an opportunity to perhaps gauge what

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Speaker 2: some other organizations think about your side of that of

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Speaker 2: that roster.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, particularly quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, hey, I've been watching Kenny, and if you

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Speaker 3: just changed this one thing, I think you'd be a

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Speaker 1: Or you did you think about it better?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Did you think about trying this with him?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Or maybe you should.

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Speaker 2: You have to emphasize this with Pickett. This is what

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Speaker 2: we did with whoever.

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Speaker 3: Whatever problem, you know, and we changed it by doing this,

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Speaker 3: you know. And so yeah, I think.

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Speaker 1: He'll get easier for him by doing this.

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Speaker 3: Or boy, you know your left guard is tipping off

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Speaker 3: run plays. Okay, Yeah, there's another set of eyes on

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Speaker 3: there that that stuff goes a long way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, So that's where they're going with that.

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Speaker 2: He was asked, uh, you know, is h Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 2: your your quarterback one? At this point he said, well,

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Speaker 2: right now, yes, but we would like to have some competition.

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Speaker 2: And he was also asked about bringing back Mason Rudolph.

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Speaker 2: He said, I'd love to bring Mason back, you know,

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Speaker 2: but he is a free agent.

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Speaker 1: We have to we have that realization there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can't just say he's going to be

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Speaker 3: our starter next year. Yeah, he's not even under not

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Speaker 3: even he's not under contract to Two Way Street. He

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Speaker 3: he knows.

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Speaker 2: So right now on their roster, MA, you know, Kenny

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Speaker 3: That shouldn't shock anybody by that way.

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Speaker 2: Of course, on March thirteenth, when the when the tampering

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Speaker 2: period begins, the illegal tampering period begins, Kenny Pickett will

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Speaker 2: be QB one on this roster. Yes, doesn't mean that

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Speaker 2: that's going to be the you know, it.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't mean week one in the in the Braither season

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Speaker 3: or week ten or two years from now. But he's

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Speaker 3: going to have something to prove.

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Speaker 2: He's going to have an opportunity to win that job.

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Speaker 2: And you know, and he said, look, we don't anoint

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Speaker 1: There's always competition. Competition is good.

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Speaker 2: So whether that competition comes from Mason Rudolph or whether

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Speaker 2: that comes from somebody else.

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Speaker 1: We shall see.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe, having heard him today, that they're, you know,

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins or something like that. I just don't see

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Speaker 2: I just sat down with Kenny Pickett this morning and

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Speaker 3: It's a huge, big year. Yeah, it's year three. It's

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Speaker 3: almost time for fifth year option stuff, extension stuff. Are

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Speaker 4: Are you not?

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Speaker 3: No more excuses, no more.

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Speaker 4: Anything, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so that's he's the most pivotal, pivotal guy

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Speaker 1: And they know better.

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Speaker 2: It's particularly Tom than what was asked of Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 2: this season was was he being told, hey, just take

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Speaker 2: and well, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, we'll win it at the end.

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Speaker 2: Because you know, one of the things that he brought up,

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Speaker 2: he says, look, I we know a lot more about

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Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett today.

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Speaker 1: I feel a lot better about Kenny Pickett today than

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Speaker 1: I did when we drafted him.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I would imagine.

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Speaker 1: I've seen him lead.

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Speaker 2: Fourth quarter comeback. I know how competitive he is. I know,

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: So they have a pretty good idea of what they

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Speaker 3: I mean, it goes out saying they know more about

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Speaker 3: the choice. Again, where I think the Steelers don't feel

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Speaker 3: that way, where they're still have a lot of faith

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Speaker 3: in the young man, even though it is a pivotal time.

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Speaker 3: But you can't just put all your eggs in that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to, you know, Yeah, I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Ye Now, he was asked, you know, did you feel

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Speaker 2: like this year you were closer than you had been

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Speaker 2: in the last few seasons in terms of being able

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Speaker 2: to be a team that that would still be alive

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Speaker 2: and contend this week, this weekend and when you're down

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Speaker 2: to your final weight. He said, absolutely, I feel like

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Speaker 2: we're moving in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: I tend to agree. Yeah, I mean, I think at

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Speaker 3: the end of the season, they were more formidable than

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Speaker 3: they have been the last couple ends of the year

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Speaker 3: when they're when their time was their ticket was eventually punched.

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Speaker 3: I thought this was a better football team than it

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Speaker 3: had been when they lost in Kansas City like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just he just had a much

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Speaker 2: better different feel to this particular playoff game than you

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Speaker 2: had in the Kansas City, Uh, you know situation you

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Speaker 2: you know, they just missed the playoffs, but because they

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Speaker 2: teams that finished with the same record as them, they

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Speaker 2: won ten games.

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Speaker 3: This year, they won ten games, right, I mean they

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Speaker 3: were ten and seven. Yeah, we all would have taken

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Speaker 2: And again he got into a lot of different stuff

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Speaker 3: No. No, and coaches, especially if his stature, and are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the thing, you know, see so much

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Speaker 3: I made a Belichick win.

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Speaker 2: Belichick won three after year ten, and you know, Belichick

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Speaker 2: Super Bowls and just made super bowls after year ten

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah know. Coaches bar out.

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Speaker 3: It's a hard, hard gig.

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Speaker 3: I think there's there's not one formula for it. I mean, Shula, Landry,

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's a magic number.

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Speaker 1: There's not a magic number.

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Speaker 2: And and and you know, people say, well the message

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Speaker 1: Not in today's game.

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Speaker 4: Well not.

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Speaker 2: It's almost impossible for the message to get stale in

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Speaker 3: I would say, who was here ten years ago?

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Speaker 4: Verse? Now?

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Speaker 3: Anyways, that's about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 3: And not to mention, I'm sure the words coming out

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Speaker 3: You learned change, and you evolve, and if you can't,

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Speaker 3: So you.

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Speaker 1: Know it's it's it's all.

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Speaker 2: You find a good head coach, you find a good

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Speaker 2: not always going to be pretty. You're not gonna win

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Speaker 2: But you know, Baltimore could have said the same thing

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Speaker 3: What if they lose, you're gonna hear that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: If they lose this game, You're all you're gonna hear

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Speaker 3: is Lamar's won four Harbaugh's a loser. They haven't won

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the Cowboys, you can say you

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Speaker 3: They were really good this year.

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Speaker 1: They did this year, really good. This year they got

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Speaker 3: A bad day at the office. They got the best

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Speaker 3: Right, right, Yeah, that's just the way it works, right, It.

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Speaker 2: Just is, you know, you either have the quarterback or

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Speaker 1: You know, well, he's not.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be anointed at anything. I mean, there's no he's

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Speaker 4: You're the guy. I knows.

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Speaker 3: Nobody else here has any chance of being close to

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Speaker 3: And you know, as we open the show, this is

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Speaker 3: sharkkeeps swimming either way, you know what I mean, with

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Speaker 2: Right, And the idea is, you know, I thought it

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Speaker 2: was interesting Bob Labriola does his sit down with Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit to talk about this.

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Speaker 2: But Bob asked Mike Tomlin and then the piece runs

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Speaker 2: on game days every year, every time there's a game day,

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Speaker 1: He said, you know, do you.

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Speaker 2: Do you bring up the point that you that you

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Speaker 2: my baggage to carry that, not theirs. Yeah, those guys

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Speaker 2: don't have anything to do with that. Yeah, the team

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Speaker 2: has nothing to do with the twenty twenty three team.

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Speaker 2: The twenty eighteen team had nothing to do with the

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That always bothers me, Like, well, the Steelers haven't won

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Speaker 3: back and back and losing, it's not all Lee Frasier.

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Speaker 3: It's not like two boxers that fight every year and

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Speaker 2: And that's some of the things that you can look

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Speaker 1: This year they were three and oh on the West coast.

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Speaker 3: Kind of an underreported story of you know, things that

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rams finished with a winning record, made the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: And oh on the West Coast five and one division, Right,

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Speaker 2: Again, if somebody would have said, hey, the Steelers are

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Speaker 4: Up for that.

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Speaker 3: I thought they won thirteen games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, and they could have, uh you know

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Speaker 2: And it also this is not to make an excuse

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Speaker 3: As well, no, no doubt, as it does.

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Speaker 3: This year exactly. I mean, I don't care who is Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: It just didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: That's just what the league is right now.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you beat who's on the schedule, and

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Speaker 2: They're not going to just run this back. They're going

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Speaker 3: Or they have a lot of potential to create a

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you go look at cap space now,

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Year or mock draft. So I made it fun. Were

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: But no, I expect the run. It would amaze me

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Speaker 3: been pretty impressed with what Omar has done overall. I

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Speaker 3: think they're in the right hands with team building. But

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Speaker 3: now you're not going to lose that much. You can

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Speaker 3: bring in more and another draft class.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is not.

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Speaker 2: You know, they've shown in recent years that they're not

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Speaker 2: just going to do what they've always done, right. They

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Speaker 2: you know, they traded a first round draft pick for

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Speaker 2: micka Fitzpatrick. They traded up to go get Devin Bush.

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Speaker 1: Now, you that may not have been the right move,

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Speaker 1: but they did it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and showed that they're willing to do that. They

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Speaker 2: traded up to go get Jones, Brodert Jones this year.

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Speaker 3: They even nd season stuff like churning the bottom of

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Speaker 3: the roster with the Rose and those type.

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Speaker 1: Adding those guys to here.

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Speaker 3: Not everybody did that, No, no.

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Speaker 2: And not only that, but but also you know, being

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Speaker 2: so as active as you were in free agency last year,

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Speaker 2: the steel the Steelers signed more free agents last year

464
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Speaker 2: than they've ever had in their in their ever.

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Speaker 3: And they hadn't like jumping in the deep end. We're

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Speaker 3: going to sign the biggest fish out there on the

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Speaker 3: first day. Yeah, we're going to be thrifty and add

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Speaker 3: a lot of little stuff.

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Speaker 1: But they did sign some first day guys and.

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Speaker 3: Even little trades like I know, Dotson went on to

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Speaker 3: do great things for the Rams. Great very big word.

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Speaker 3: But you know you picked up extra picks that kind

473
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Speaker 3: of ways, you know, with Kendrick Green and Dotson, and

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Speaker 3: you use some of those picks to add and Alan Robinson.

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Speaker 3: You know they're not huge pieces, but those guys play

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Speaker 3: a lot of stabs. Yeah, right, picks you got back

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Speaker 3: are going to be important.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, we're gonna get to a break.

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Speaker 2: When we return, we'll have Bob Labriola joining us here.

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolli.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolli.

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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson, and we are joined now

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Speaker 2: by the one and only Bob Labriola, Editor of Steelers Digested,

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Speaker 2: Steelers dot Com, the lord of living in his fears.

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Speaker 2: And well, the season ended last week in Buffalo. Bob,

488
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Speaker 2: you can thank all all your stars that you were

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Speaker 2: not there because it was basically my last weekend. But

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin held his season ending press conference today, and

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Speaker 2: well there was a lot to glean out of this one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there was, I mean, you know, and it's kind

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Speaker 4: of I took some notes doing it, and you know,

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Speaker 4: there were some things I think that were settled. That's

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Speaker 4: you know, the offensive coordinator will come from me from

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Speaker 4: the outside the organization. That to you know, he hopes

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Speaker 4: to have Mason Rudolph back. He did say that, let's see,

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Speaker 4: he's very confident in Picket, but there is going to

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Speaker 4: be competition for the quarterback job in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: The other thing I thought was, you know, somewhat revealing

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Speaker 4: was the admission that Mason Rudolph has changed the perception

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Speaker 4: of himself within the organization, because there was no question

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Speaker 4: in my mind that that there was, you know, Mason

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Speaker 4: Rudolph's start with the team after he was drafted. Certainly

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Speaker 4: the twenty nineteen season had an impact on the quote

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Speaker 4: unquote three million competition in the summer of twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: two because you know, as Bill Cower has stated often that,

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Speaker 4: you know, about nineteen ninety six, after O'Donnell signed with

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Speaker 4: the Jets and the Steelers had Tom Zach Jim Miller,

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Speaker 4: who was a recent draft pick, I think it was

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Speaker 4: going into his second season in ninety six, and Cordell's

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Speaker 4: maybe Miller was going into his third season in ninety

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Speaker 4: six because Cordell store was going into his second season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, third season, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't. You know, there's there's not enough practice reps,

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Speaker 4: there's not enough preseason game action for three guys because

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Speaker 4: you know, and Matt can get into more details on this,

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Speaker 4: you can't evaluate a quarterback if you're running them with

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Speaker 4: and against scrubs, you know, so that you know that

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Speaker 4: has no value. So there has to be some I

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Speaker 4: won't say corners, but you have to make some concessions

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Speaker 4: to a lot of the things, uh that are the

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Speaker 4: reality now. You know, you're only allowed to have these

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Speaker 4: guys quote unquote working on an off site training camp

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Speaker 4: for twelve hours a day. You know, that's a rule.

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Speaker 4: That's a rule. Yeah. So there's a lot of these

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Speaker 4: kinds of things I don't think fans realize or you know,

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Speaker 4: understand necessarily. I mean there's a lot of things that

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Speaker 4: have to be juggled, you know, for the Steelers to

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Speaker 4: go to Saint Vincent. Nowadays with the new cb A,

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Speaker 4: there's more things in tault than just loading up the

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Speaker 4: trucks and getting on thirty in head meat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's no twa days and those kind of things.

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Speaker 2: And this is not high school they there are there

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Speaker 2: are rules here. This is or to quote uh the

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Speaker 2: big Lebowski, this is not nom There are rules like

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Speaker 2: you you have to very set rules that you have

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Speaker 2: to you know, follow and if you you don't, you

539
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Speaker 2: start doing they start taking away draft picks and things

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Bobs one hundred percent right, A three man

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Speaker 3: quarterback competition in today's CBA, in today's NFL is nearly impossible.

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Speaker 4: I mean, really is.

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Speaker 3: We got to talk about that down the road. But

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Speaker 3: labs Dale mentioned I haven't got a chance. I wasn't there.

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Speaker 3: I didn't get a chance to watch the press conference yet, unfortunately.

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Speaker 3: But Dale mentioned to start the show that he was

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Speaker 3: very impressed with how I guess the word maybe i'd

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Speaker 3: steel was thoughtful or how tuned in coach Tomlin was

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Speaker 3: for this, I mean, mature wise, I don't know, but

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Speaker 3: I mean he kind of felt like it had a

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Speaker 3: different feel to him. It's had a really good perspective

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Speaker 3: on the whole team as a whole.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, I also think that the timing

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Speaker 4: of it, you know, was was more conducive to the

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Speaker 4: kinds of things that you just mentioned. I mean, this

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Speaker 4: is not thirty seconds after you were.

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Speaker 1: Just eliminated from the playoffs, right right.

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Speaker 4: When someone is asking a question specifically to be noticed

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Speaker 4: that notice me, look at me question, okay, and it's

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Speaker 4: it's designed to either it's designed to elicit a reaction,

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Speaker 4: whatever the reaction is. The person who asked the question

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Speaker 4: to attract attention to themselves is happy with either one

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Speaker 4: of those things. Whatever, you know, whatever the reaction is.

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Speaker 4: And so, uh, you know, to me, that's that's what

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Speaker 4: you know, that's got you journalism, you know. And so

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Speaker 4: I have no sympathy or or for for the reaction

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Speaker 4: that Mike Tomlin had after the game, truly, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you ask a question like that, you know,

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Speaker 4: you get what you deserve. Whatever he's in the mood for,

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Speaker 4: that's fine with me.

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Speaker 3: And zero temperatures and you get eliminated from the season,

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna be bright and cheery and happy and

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Speaker 3: want to talk about those things.

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Speaker 4: I mean, come on, right, and now there's also you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'll just you know, I'll get off my

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Speaker 4: soapbox here in a minute now. Also, some people who

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Speaker 4: used to classify themselves as insiders are jumping on or

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Speaker 4: jumping on this. Uh Bill Kahen never did that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: He have no idea in those rooms.

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Speaker 1: As did I.

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Speaker 2: And this was I asked the initial question that got

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Speaker 2: that landed it on the front because they hadn't they

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Speaker 2: hadn't publicized the press conferences. They weren't, they weren't on

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Speaker 2: TV the postgame press conferences.

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Speaker 3: And I asked them a little different.

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Speaker 2: I asked them about the question, the question who was

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Speaker 2: going to be a starting quarterback the following week because

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Speaker 2: he had put Tomlin in for or put Tom Jack

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Speaker 2: in for Cordell Stewart.

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Speaker 1: And he didn't really answer. And that's when Ed.

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Speaker 2: Followed up with with the question, well who are you

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Speaker 2: starting next week? And and you know asked me again

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Speaker 2: as again screaming and yelling at it.

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Speaker 4: And then and then some of the meetings, one on

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Speaker 4: one meetings in the lobby at three Rivers.

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Speaker 2: If that's what you want to call them, that's they

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Speaker 2: were pretty.

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Speaker 4: And also another thing that's that's making the round is

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Speaker 4: you know, Chuck Noll getting up and walking out when

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Speaker 4: Steve Hubbard asked him about has the game passed you by?

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Speaker 1: So what are you supposed to answer that question.

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Speaker 4: This is not this is not new. You know, this

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Speaker 4: is not something that has never happened before. Uh, this

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Speaker 4: is not something that has never happened before in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 4: in three Rivers Stadium that now now now no longer exists.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, this was the kind of you know, newsc offers.

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Speaker 4: The setting, the season is over, you have a few

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Speaker 4: days to decompress a little bit there. I'm sure there

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Speaker 4: were some conversations had between Mike Tomlin and Steelers president

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Speaker 4: Aren't Rooney the second they kind of got on the

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Speaker 4: preliminary same page and now you can go in there

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Speaker 4: and take some questions. Yeah, and it's not you know,

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Speaker 4: it's boring for the gotcha journalists in that room because

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Speaker 4: there's no more gotcha right you know. Uh, he can

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Speaker 4: honestly say, you know, you decline to speculate, which, you know,

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Speaker 4: why would you Why would you get into things like

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Speaker 4: you know who you're going to try and sign a

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Speaker 4: free agency? Who might you look and be looking a draft?

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Speaker 4: You know what? Kind of that serves no purpose now

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Speaker 4: to answer any of that kind of stuff, because it

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Speaker 4: can change. It'll change five times between now and whenever

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Speaker 4: there is any actual significant meaning to the questions.

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Speaker 3: You know, they even't had those meetings yet. I mean,

626
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Speaker 3: like they don't need those answers yet.

627
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Speaker 4: And you know who you gonna you know, do you

628
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Speaker 4: think that Miles killer Brew is gonna get a lot

629
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Speaker 4: of interest outside from outside teams and during free agency?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, things that are fun for us to talk about

631
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Speaker 2: on on on a talk show like this, but but

632
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Speaker 2: in reality, those conversations haven't taken place yet.

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Speaker 3: But the world's gonna been with or without Miles killer

634
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Speaker 3: Brew too. I mean that's this isn't.

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Speaker 4: Also, he understands, and he's been around us a long time.

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Speaker 4: He understands that anything he says is you know, news

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Speaker 4: quote unquote uh and subject for future commentary and speculator,

638
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 4: and you know it will be interpreted and reinterpreted and

639
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: you know, regurgitated, and you know, I mean it's just anyway, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I thought it was. Uh, I thought it was. It

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Speaker 4: should have been a productive session for the people who

642
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 4: were actually in there looking for some information as opposed to,

643
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Speaker 4: you know, trying to make themselves look good or you know,

644
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Speaker 4: who knows, get Mike Florio to write something about him

645
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 4: and his you know on Pro Football Talk. You know

646
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Speaker 4: what I mean and that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: No, I thought I thought he I thought he pulled

648
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Speaker 2: back the curtain a little bit more so than than

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Speaker 2: his typical you know, he did answer some of those questions, and.

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Speaker 1: People are upset.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can't believe he just anointing Kenny Pickett QB one.

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Speaker 2: Who the hell else is he gonna do? They got

653
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Speaker 2: two quarterbacks on the roster right now who are under contract.

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Speaker 3: And the way I gathered that he didn't anoint him

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Speaker 3: the opening day starter, They said, who's that? He's number one?

656
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Speaker 3: Right now? Probably two guys in the building that are

657
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Speaker 3: employed to play the position, and I'm not sure the

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Speaker 3: other one's going to be around.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so, but he did say there will

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Speaker 4: be a competent. There will be competition for the job

661
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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four, right, so we'll see, we'll see

662
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: what it is.

663
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 3: Would you give it an over fifty percent chance at

664
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 3: Rudolph's Steeler, I mean, I know you're not in there

665
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,239
Speaker 3: with contract negotiations, but it seems like a pretty good

666
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: marriage right now.

667
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, And I also thought he was candidate

668
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: about that. Control now goes to Mason.

669
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: Rudolph, right, sure, sure he could say no, he can

670
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: walk away, right right, because you're certainly not going to

671
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 3: put the franchise tag on him.

672
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 4: That would be your only way of guaranteeing, you know,

673
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 4: or kind of guaranteeing that he would be coming back.

674
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 4: I mean, you're not going to do that with a

675
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: guy who started the last two seasons as your number

676
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 4: three guy. And let's face it, I mean, you know,

677
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 4: Mason Rudolph isn't that kind of player anyway, right, So yeah,

678
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 4: you know there there's let's let's nobody ever wants to

679
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 4: let it play out. You know, you want to know.

680
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 4: They want to know what's going to happen in July,

681
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 4: in January. It that don't work that way, It just doesn't.

682
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 4: And you know, the next time I think Mike Tomlin

683
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 4: will meet the media is going to be the owner's meetings.

684
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is at the end of March. You know,

685
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: a lot's going to happen between now and then.

686
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: Right contract by that or who knows, And yeah.

687
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of machinations that you know, he'll have

688
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: hired an offense with new offensive coordinator, They'll they'll have

689
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: come to some kind of uh, something will have happened

690
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: with with Mason Rudolph or another quarterback by that time.

691
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: Imagine Tomlin's contract that.

692
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: There's a good chance that that's happened.

693
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: So there's gonna be a lot of a lot of

694
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: changes here, and you can't Yeah, I mean, you know,

695
00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: he's it's just the way it goes. Switching gears here

696
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: a little bit, Bob. How do you view this season?

697
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: Matt and I were just talking about it. Three and

698
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: oh on the West Coast. You know what the record

699
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: was had been in West Coast games, they went five

700
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: and one in the division. I mean, if you'd have

701
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: told us in July, going back to that dates that

702
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: that was gonna happen, they were gonna go three and

703
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: oh in their West Coast games and go five and

704
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: one in the division, I'd be like, yeah, sign me

705
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: up for that.

706
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 3: And winning record, verse playoff teams, winning record, verse teams

707
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: with a winning record, and some stinkers. It wasn't all beautiful,

708
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: of course, you know that. But how would you grade

709
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: the season as a whole, or you know, analyze the

710
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: season as a whole?

711
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 4: Well, I see one of the things, and let me

712
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 4: let me start this. Love. I love Kevin Colvert. I

713
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 4: do when he said after Super Bowl forty five, we

714
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: were good enough for second, but second isn't good enough.

715
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 4: That's the wrong thing to say to publicly. That can

716
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 4: be your in house uh, you know feeling, you know,

717
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 4: your inter organizational view of things. But you can't tell

718
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 4: the ensors that you're going to you're going to the

719
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 4: super Bowl every year. I mean, that's absurd. That is

720
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 4: absurd to me. Everything has kind of changed since then.

721
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 4: And here's another thing. The standard is the standard that

722
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 4: that's saying. It is not that we want to win

723
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: the super Bowl every year. That's not what that means.

724
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 4: That that saying came about as a way to when

725
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: you have injuries or change in your lineup or to

726
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 4: your roster that whoever you put in, you want them

727
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 4: to play to the standard. That is the Steelers standard.

728
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, the expectations you have to

729
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: play text the expectations.

730
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 4: Right, you're playing to win.

731
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: You still snap the football in the backup left guard's

732
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 3: job is to block the defensive tackle or or.

733
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 4: If you're taking safeties and linebackers off the couch in

734
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 4: early December, you want them to be able to step

735
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 4: in and play to contribute to wins. That's the standard,

736
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: not if we're gonna we either win the Super Bowl

737
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 4: every year or the culture is going away.

738
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, well, Matt and I talked about

739
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: that earlier in the week you have you had the

740
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: same weekend. The Browns get blown out in their playoff

741
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: game in a game in which they were favored. They

742
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: won one more game than the Steelers this year, and

743
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: everything's rosy in Cleveland, the Steelers coach of the year.

744
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: The Steelers lose a playoff game in which they were

745
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: ten point underdogs, and they were much more competitive in

746
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: their game than Cleveland was, and somehow we need to

747
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 2: fire the head coach.

748
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: Well, and who played the better team too?

749
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: Exactly? Like, yeah, which one challenge or no question? Yeah,

750
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 3: so who had the better year? You know, wow, great

751
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 3: year by the Browns.

752
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 4: Well, I think that, you know, seasons need to be viewed,

753
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 4: you know, in a light other than did you win

754
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 4: the championship or not a or f uh so, you know,

755
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 4: there certainly were some roadblocks to overcome, both coaching and

756
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 4: personnel wise, you know, I I, you know, five and

757
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 4: one in the Division every you know, it's the first

758
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 4: division since nineteen thirty five were all for all teams

759
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 4: in it finished over five hundred, and the Steelers were

760
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: five and one in that division. So you know, there

761
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 4: are there are when you're looking at this team, you know,

762
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 4: one of the one of the base requirements or goals

763
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 4: or in terms of constructing a roster, and you know,

764
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 4: a philosophy and everything is you have to be competitive

765
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 4: against teams in your division. If you're a dormat in

766
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 4: your own division, you're going nowhere nowhere. So for all

767
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 4: of the things that the Steelers aren't, they are competitive

768
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 4: in their own division, successful in it, you know. And

769
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what if somebody could shoot John Harball

770
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 4: with sodium penephal to make him know the truth once anything,

771
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 4: I got that he is happy that he's not preparing

772
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 4: for the Steelers this weekend.

773
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: No doubt my mind, Dale, And I've been saying that

774
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: for weeks. I mean, yeah, you wouldn't want to see

775
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: the Browns either, but especially the Steelers. I mean I'd

776
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 3: rather play Kansas City or from them. And I want

777
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: to ask you real quick about the Ravens. I think

778
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 3: we'll all admit they're really good. I mean I'm super

779
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 3: impressed with them, But if they stumble this week or

780
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: next week. All we're gonna hear about is Lamar's a bomb.

781
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 3: Can't win in the postseason? When's the last playoff game?

782
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 3: Hardball one? Like, if they don't win the super Bowl,

783
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: their season is going to be garbage in people's eyes,

784
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: Like it's so unrealistic, it's crazy.

785
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, absolutely, I just think that there is so

786
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 4: little understanding of how difficult it is, first of all

787
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 4: to get to a super Bowl, yeah, and then to

788
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 4: win one.

789
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 3: To win a playoff game is so hard, right, and you.

790
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 4: Know what you have, what you have are is now

791
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 4: twenty four to seven commentary, you know, and guys like

792
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 4: Dan Orlovsky who didn't know where he was in the

793
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 4: end zone, you know enough to not run out of

794
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 4: bounds for a safety. Now he's an ext bert you

795
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 4: know on you.

796
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: Know, put a quarterback play?

797
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, right on quarterback play. So anyway, all of that,

798
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 4: all of those kinds of things, you know, and you

799
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 4: have all these alleged insiders. Uh, you know, justin fields

800
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 4: a good spot for justin fields? Is Pittsburgh a good

801
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 4: spot for that? This is the most ridiculous.

802
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: I know where you're going.

803
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 4: No, no, no, the other the guy who's made a

804
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 4: gazillion dollars, Let's pay him thirty five million dollars. As

805
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 4: how old is he? Thirty seven, thirty six, Let's pay

806
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 4: him that money for you know.

807
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: Again, who's one in five in his career in the

808
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 2: playoffs by the way.

809
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 4: So, I mean, you know this, this kind of stuff

810
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 4: is absurd, and you know, God bless you to guys

811
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 4: for you know, doing this in this talk show world

812
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 4: thing every day.

813
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, he's taking a ditch for a living.

814
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: We also don't play around with the hot takes, though.

815
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 2: I mean, we're gonna give you an honest analysis of

816
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: It's not we're not saying stuff just to say it

817
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: just to look at us. Again, it's that gotcha journalism thing.

818
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: Look at me, you know, look at me journalists. I've

819
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: never been that, Matt's not that, You're not that. I mean,

820
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: you're just gonna give you honest analysis of what we think.

821
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 2: And and this was this was a flawed Steelers team,

822
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: but it's a flawed Steelers team in what is a

823
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: flawed NFL?

824
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:31,959
Speaker 1: Right now?

825
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: Yeah?

826
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 4: Yeah?

827
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: Sorry? Do you agree though, Like I feel like and

828
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 3: that's how we started the show too, is if I'm

829
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: more comfortable with this football team the day they got

830
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 3: eliminated than last year's or the year before. Okay, I mean,

831
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: I mean it's not perfect, but quarterbacks.

832
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 4: Are question, you know, and I'm not and I'm not

833
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 4: disagreeing with you. I'm I'm gonna be honest. I don't.

834
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: I don't remember enough details about you know, two years ago,

835
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 4: you were you were getting rid of, you know, a

836
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 4: quarterback who probably shouldn't have played anymore after he blew

837
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 4: out his elbow in twenty nineteen. Sure, but the organizational

838
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 4: decision was made, and I agree with it. I agree

839
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 4: with it. Then I agree with it now that you

840
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 4: give that guy every opportunity, uh to go out on

841
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 4: his own time.

842
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets he gets the opportunity to be carried

843
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: out on a shield because of what he accomplished.

844
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 4: Yes, second best quarterback in franchise history. Two trophies in

845
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 4: the to the collection. You know, I'm right, first ballot.

846
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 4: So yes, I do think that the right thing to

847
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 4: do from a franchise standpoint is to respect those kinds

848
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 4: of players who have contributed that kind of stuff. You know,

849
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 4: I think that in reality, the Steelers also carried Troy

850
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 4: Paul Malo a couple of years too long, maybe, hinz Ward.

851
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 4: I mean there were some guys who they were not

852
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 4: what they were or needed to be at the end

853
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 4: of their careers and were allowed to continue. Uh. And

854
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 4: I you know that that I think that you have

855
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 4: to you have to understand that you have to pay

856
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 4: that kind of tax on the kind of winning that

857
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 4: those guys bring to your franchise. And if that's the

858
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 4: way that it is, I'm okay with that. I it's

859
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 4: not easy or necessarily right to throw those guys out

860
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 4: in the trash at the first sign of they're not

861
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 4: what they used to be.

862
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 3: Like, I don't think you're gonna hear tomorrow Cam Hayward's

863
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: getting cut.

864
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 4: You know, yes, I do. I do not know. I

865
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 4: agree with Yes, I agree with what you said. I

866
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 4: didn't mean yes that he was getting so, you know.

867
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 4: And I also thought and I thought this was a

868
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 4: kind of bearing his soul moment when Mike Tomlins said

869
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 4: one of his greatest professional disappointments is Marquise Pouncing won

870
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl because he's he's a championship player, and

871
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 4: I have spoken to him a lot about my Marquise

872
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 4: Pouncey in a lot of different ways, and he believes

873
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 4: that he feels that. And you know, again, as I said,

874
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 4: was Pouncey what he needed to be towards the end,

875
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 4: probably not, you know. Uh. And when the story of

876
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 4: that playoff loss to the Browns is told, you know

877
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 4: that that's that first play snap over Ben's head, who

878
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 4: was recovered in the end zone for a Cleveland touchdown.

879
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 4: That's a significant factor, right, And I don't think you

880
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 4: can't And again, you can't blame that on the coach.

881
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 4: You can't blame that on the team not being ready.

882
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 4: You know, it was a physical error by a great player.

883
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that stuff happens.

884
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 4: That stuff happens.

885
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to sit here and talk to you

886
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 2: all day, Bob, but we got to let you go.

887
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna get into a break. I hope we get

888
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 2: a chance to do this again. I've really enjoyed getting

889
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: an opportunity to talk to you again on the air

890
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: here and pick your brain about some stuff. But hopefully

891
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 2: we'll be able to do that during the off season

892
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: as well. But again, just appreciated you jumping on here

893
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: with us during the season.

894
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: And uh, well, we'll see you at.

895
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: Some point down the road here, Bob, I know we are.

896
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: Our ships don't often cross in the off season as

897
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,479
Speaker 2: much as as I would like, because well, you know.

898
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 4: Well, like I said, you know, I'm not I'm not

899
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 4: a posed certainly, you know, to joining you guys periodically

900
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 4: and you know, kicking it around and so yeah, you know,

901
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 4: I'll get I'll tell my agent.

902
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: People can talk to my people. Yeah.

903
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

904
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: Steelers Digest editor and Steelers dot Com editor Bob Labriola.

905
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lallie. You're listening

906
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be

907
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: back with more right after this.

908
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: You can gear up with the latest sideline apparel, hats

909
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911
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00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: at deck Resuer Stadium, Grove City Premium Outlets, or Tangle Outlets,

913
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: where you can visit online at shop dot Steelers dot com.

914
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: They should have like some little Bob Labriola dolls.

915
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: Hot anyways, So we just have a short time here

916
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 2: before we get to the top of the segment with So,

917
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: how about this, Indianapolis has struck a deal to host

918
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 2: a twenty twenty five NFL scouting combine. Uh, they previously

919
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 2: had no agreement in place beyond this year.

920
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 3: This upcoming one.

921
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: They're going to bid that thing out on a regular basis. Here.

922
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: That's great news and.

923
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: A little dance. Yeah the off season.

924
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: I know fans don't necessarily care about.

925
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 2: First of all, if you're Pittsburgh fans, I know people

926
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: that actually drive out there that much.

927
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: To see, but I know that they do.

928
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they drive out just to be around it,

929
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: around it because the entire NFL just descends on Indianapolis

930
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: and that little like five block area.

931
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean you'll see the Cowboys, you know,

932
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: the Big Boss Bus and Jerry and goes Andy Reid

933
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 3: and I mean like you're gonna be next to those

934
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 3: guys all the time. So great news for us, I

935
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: mean because it's so driveable, you know we take.

936
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: I just think it's great for the fan experience.

937
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: If you took it to like Vegas, or if you

938
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 2: took it to Los Angeles, everything would be so spread

939
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: out and you wouldn't be able to do everything that

940
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: you can do.

941
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 3: Set up perfectly there. It's a convention town. It works

942
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 3: great for us personally, for the whole system. It was

943
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 3: originally put there because so many teams can drive to Indianapolis,

944
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: you know.

945
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: For us, did we mention that?

946
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: We're pretty happy about it.

947
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: So we do get to the Combine.

948
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: Well, I've already had people asking you, what's what's our

949
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: schedule going to be like here now that?

950
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so here's here's what we do.

951
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 4: We do.

952
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: We'll do five days a.

953
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: Week Monday through Friday until the super Bowl. After post

954
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: super Bowl.

955
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 3: I say the week after the super Bowl, I didn't

956
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 3: know for five or three.

957
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: I think we go to three after that. Three days

958
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: a week. But when we go to the Combine, we

959
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: had shows on from.

960
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: The more New night you know eight eight am to

961
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: four pm or five pm, whatever it is. We have

962
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: shows every day that they're out there for the Combine,

963
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: and Matt and I will mix in with Wes and

964
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: some other I think most is going this year.

965
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: I've heard I remember I did our hour starts last

966
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 3: yearear you know a lot of those type of things.

967
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 3: So it's tremendous as we are. We do, I get

968
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: some awesome guests. Yeah, I mean we get a lot

969
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 3: of fun draft knicks and things like that too that

970
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: make for really good radio.

971
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of fun, so we enjoy that.

972
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: And then of course we'll also.

973
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: Go to the owners meetings.

974
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Speaker 2: Yes, that'll that'll be at the end of March, so

975
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: we'll do shows from there every day after that you're

976
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: into the draft stuff.

977
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 4: Uh.

978
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: Then once the draft is over, a ot A start

979
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: and every day that Steelers practice at ot As we

980
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 2: do a show and takes your in into training camp.

981
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 3: It's not long.

982
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: Everything is very regimented out here.

983
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: But we will continue to do five days a week

984
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: here up until the Super Bowl a couple of weeks. Right, Yeah,

985
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: so and you're going to Bowl. I will be at

986
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl at the end of this month, so

987
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 2: they week before we super Bowl the super Bowl, Right.

988
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: That was one thing Mike Toman said. He said he's

989
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: he's bummed to be going to the Senior.

990
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: Bowl this year, well because he wanted to be.

991
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: Because he wanted to be somewhere else active, right, But

992
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: he does enjoy it too.

993
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're going to get to another break.

994
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lolly, you're

995
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. That's

996
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: going to do it for our number one. We'll be

997
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: back with our number two.