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Speaker 1: New York Jets. Chad Hanson joins us here a Vanderbilts

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Speaker 1: chat handsome man. We changed his name. You can call

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Speaker 1: the fact that we never played and that was always

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Speaker 1: And now you're gonna come over to the media side

427
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Speaker 1: and now show us, in your benevolence at thinking of

428
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Speaker 1: your care how to do this job too. What is

429
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Speaker 1: appreciated benevolence on your twice you're a nice guy man. Now,

430
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Speaker 1: Bob Schusing has a lot of experience with this very

431
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Speaker 1: show because inside the Jets you're hosting for how many years? Fifteen? Man,

432
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 1: I took your job. I'm sorry fifteen years, fifteen years

433
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: and I've got kids getting go to college things. Listen, Man,

434
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Speaker 1: I love your voice. You know you talk about people

435
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 1: that have great voices. You should do some voice over

436
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 1: work for like Pixar or something like that. Man, you

437
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: can give the world so many more gifts. Man, you

438
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: have one of the great voices. You James Earl Jones,

439
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 1: Darth Vader. Man, I'm telling you out, James Arrol Jones.

440
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 1: What are you gonna drop? Maybe Morgan Freeman on it. Yeah,

441
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Speaker 1: he can be right now, right now. That might claim

442
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Speaker 1: to famous if you call the Jet complex, I'm the

443
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Speaker 1: voice of holds for me, that's as good as a guest.

444
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Speaker 1: And that's where you start. Man. You start there, Man,

445
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: where you can we can finish in pixar Um. Why

446
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 1: has the chemistry done so good with you and your

447
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: partner Marty Lions. How could the chemistry be bad with

448
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: Marty Lions? Yeah, I mean if if you don't like Marty,

449
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: then you're the problem. So the chemistry will never be

450
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Speaker 1: a problem with Marty. He's as good at guy as

451
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: there is. You guys, we have a great time together.

452
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: You have a great time, but your close personal friends

453
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,719
Speaker 1: as well. When he suffered a stroke in the summer

454
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Speaker 1: and he wasn't in the booth with booth with you

455
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: during the preseason, how difficult. Was that for you? Well,

456
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: you're just worried about him. I mean, once I knew

457
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Speaker 1: he was okay, that was fine. But and he called it,

458
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: I guess other people called it a mild stroke. And

459
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: people would ask me what happened. It's a mild stroke

460
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Speaker 1: when it doesn't happen to you, it happens to you,

461
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Speaker 1: it's a stroke. Get a stroke. And so that was

462
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Speaker 1: an eye opener for him. Um, but you know, he's

463
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Speaker 1: doing great. I mean if you knew have you just

464
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Speaker 1: met him, you know, right now and he walked in

465
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Speaker 1: the room, you would have no idea that any of

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Speaker 1: this happened. So he has made outwardly at least a

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Speaker 1: d percent recovered. Yeah, and I'll tell you what, it's

468
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Speaker 1: so great for him to be back. He didn't miss

469
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Speaker 1: a regular season game, and in the preseason I thought

470
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Speaker 1: Anthony Beck did a nice job filling in. And you

471
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Speaker 1: showed him the ropes here and those games on ESPR,

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Speaker 1: So he knows what he's doing. Uh. Speaking of ESPN,

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Speaker 1: what is it tepical work week like for Bob with

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Speaker 1: shoes and in the football season, Uh, well, this week,

475
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Speaker 1: you know, I've already got information coming in for our game.

476
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Speaker 1: This week, we're doing Tennessee and l s U on

477
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Speaker 1: Saturday night, so some interesting storylines. Tennessee just dismissing Jones. Yeah,

478
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: the fire in the dumpster gets bigger and bigger every moment. Yea.

479
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, but you know, normally it's travel Thursday meetings,

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Speaker 1: Thursday night meetings all day, Friday, college game, Saturday, run

481
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Speaker 1: to the airport, fly to wherever the Jets are, do

482
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Speaker 1: the game Sunday, fly home with the Jets. But that's

483
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Speaker 1: kind of the standard week. You talk about that like

484
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: it's easy. Sometimes it's not easy gett into a Jets game.

485
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to hear me complain about my job. Um,

486
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Speaker 1: so is it Saturday night this week? This week? Saturday

487
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: night because we've a by So oh, that's right, so

488
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Speaker 1: I don't have to get to a Jet game. Normally

489
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: it's a noon or three thirty game because you're racing

490
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Speaker 1: to get to whatever flight gets you to wherever these

491
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Speaker 1: guys are, whether it's back here or on the road. Right,

492
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Speaker 1: So that will be nice for you this weekend. You'll

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Speaker 1: be able to spend something with your family. On Sunday,

494
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Speaker 1: I will reintroduce myself to my children and you have

495
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: a few children. I've got more than Yeah, I've got

496
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: a handful literally shoes. What were your expectations expectations for

497
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: this Jets team entering the two thousand seventeen season, and

498
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Speaker 1: what do you think of where they stand now at

499
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Speaker 1: the buck I think my expectations have basically colored how

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00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: I've looked at every game this season, including yesterday. You know,

501
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Speaker 1: I don't get caught up in yesterday's performance in a

502
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Speaker 1: vacuum the way the media did today where now it's

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Speaker 1: a disaster, and look at the opportunity they had in

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Speaker 1: front of them. I've tried to look at this wide

505
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Speaker 1: angle lens since the start, and to me, I am thankful.

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Speaker 1: As the broadcaster, I thought we were going to see

507
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: what we saw yesterday like ten times this year. Yesterday

508
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Speaker 1: was the first. It's the first time this season that

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Speaker 1: we have seen this offense look to me, the way

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Speaker 1: it's capable of looking any week. So the fact that

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Speaker 1: they have been as productive as they've been, as competitive

512
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Speaker 1: as they've been, the games of the fourth quarter, have

513
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Speaker 1: been as entertaining as they have been, far exceeds what

514
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Speaker 1: I expected this season. That's the way I'm looking at it.

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00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: I still think their talent level is absolutely down in

516
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Speaker 1: the we are rebuilding towards the future phase. Um, I've

517
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Speaker 1: been saying this. I'll get your take on this. I

518
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Speaker 1: line up the whole on the draft block, and you

519
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: want to draft Aaron Rodgers first and Tom Brady second

520
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz whatever you want to do? How far

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00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: down the list you get for your draft in a jet?

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Speaker 1: How many guys you gonna take before you get to

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Speaker 1: get you know, you take a chet. Well, let me

524
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Speaker 1: ask you this question. How many giants would you draft

525
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: before you take a Jet? A decent number. But that's

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Speaker 1: that's close. That's close because I think that I think

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Speaker 1: Leonard Williams is wanted to Williams. I think he's one

528
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Speaker 1: of the premier talents. And I think that's the season

529
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Speaker 1: is going. People are starting to see Jamal Adams is

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Speaker 1: one of those players too, one of these guys that

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Speaker 1: are going to be a superstar. I mean, I remember

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Speaker 1: once when I when I saw Eat his first year,

533
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: you knew that he was a year or two away

534
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Speaker 1: from being one of the upper scheln safeties in the

535
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Speaker 1: game and getting his first Pro Bowl, Pro Bowl berth.

536
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Speaker 1: But I think what's surprising me more than any is

537
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Speaker 1: Marcus May because I think at the end of the day,

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00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: he may end up being the better pro. I think

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00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: he may be the guy that's gonna surprise where You're

540
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: gonna have to make a decision. Is this guy going

541
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: to be that? You know, our franchise, you know defensive,

542
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 1: probably can't pay both of them exactly. That's what saying,

543
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: who do you My point being thought right, like the

544
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: giants in a vacuum have individual talent that more giants

545
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: gonna get drafted higher than jazz. To me, the Jets

546
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: this season have been the quintessential example of the whole

547
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: is better than the parts that they have found a

548
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: way to kind of be galvanized around. There's nobody thought

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00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: we could even be competitive them, and they are not

550
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: only being competitive, they're giving themselves not only chances to win,

551
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: but actually winning more games than anyone expected. They had

552
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: fourth quarter leads against both teams that were in the

553
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year. No one expected that. So if

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Speaker 1: I look at all of that, take all of that in,

555
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: how do you then blow up yesterday? As if they

556
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: lost some type of golden opportunity to make a playoff

557
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: rout you're not looking at what this season was always

558
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: supposed to be about wide angle lens. If yesterday becomes

559
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: the overriding negative that they changed the narrative of their

560
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: entire season and blew it all yesterday no wide angle lens.

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Speaker 1: What do you think with all that being said, what

562
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: do you think about what Todd Bowls and his coaching

563
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: staff have done this year? The changes he has made

564
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: of this coaching staff have made a major, major difference,

565
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: especially on the offensive side of the ball. You know,

566
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Speaker 1: if they do end up bringing in what we all

567
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: think they will next year, which is a young quarterback,

568
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator they have right now, that's the offensive

569
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: coordinator you want in charge of that young quarterback. I mean,

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00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: even even just give Todd credit for this and this

571
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: loops in the old coaching staff. He has gotten already

572
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: the best out of Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh McCown in

573
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Speaker 1: their respective careers. Josh McCown never played as well for

574
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: anyone as he has already played for the Jets this season.

575
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick in his career, has had one season of

576
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: above five hundred football as a starter two years ago

577
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: with the Jets. So look at whose quarterbacks have been

578
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: and then judge what kind of a job you think

579
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: he's done well? I think did the fan base still

580
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: get a little disappointed because you raise expectations as you

581
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: see this team be competitive, and you know, you know,

582
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: sometimes we are victims of the moment, and you look

583
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: at this this Jets roster and how they perform. You know,

584
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: I think it's based on energy and effort, and I

585
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: think what was disappointing yesterday was the effort didn't seem

586
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: it was. It was the effort, but it wasn't the

587
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: next level passion. It wasn't the enthusiasm. You know that

588
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: you that that I have become accustomed to see just

589
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: didn't seem to have the juice right exactly. And that

590
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: the going forward, how does this team take that type

591
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: of enthusiasm and jews to the road on the road.

592
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: We've seen it. You sometimes you have to manufacture it

593
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: on the road because the crowd is against you. So

594
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: you have to make them that the US against the world.

595
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: But who's going to be that guy? Offensively? Because I

596
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: think defensively, even though they didn't have the extra enthusiasm,

597
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: I still think they performed. I think they just got tired,

598
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: and I think they didn't make the places that they

599
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: need to. Let me go somewhere with you that obviously

600
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Speaker 1: I shouldn't know anything about you know about it, I don't,

601
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: but this is what I think. I see that the

602
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: Jets have to be at their absolute optimum level every

603
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: single moment of every single game in order to win.

604
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: I mean when they have played their absolute best for

605
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: the most part, that's when they've won. Even when they've

606
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: been at their best, it's just getting competitive and then

607
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: losing games late. No team does that. No team goes

608
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: sixteen games at their best all the time. But teams

609
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: that have a different level of talent. The Eagles, who

610
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: right now everyone is putting in the Super Bowl. They

611
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,479
Speaker 1: had to kick a sixty one yard field goal at

612
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: home at the gun to beat the Giants. They barely

613
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: beat the Chargers, Uh, the Patriots. We're down fourteen to

614
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: the Jets. They had five wins by one possession. So

615
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: to me, that's where the talent difference comes into play.

616
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: Where you've got teams that don't play their best find

617
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: a way to win because at some point they've got

618
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: guys that can make a play and rise above the

619
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: fact that they are not at their optimum level all

620
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: the time. The Jets can't have any sag even in

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00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: any way in their effort level. Yesterday they had a

622
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: sag and they lost a really bland looking game. Because

623
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 1: it's about making the necessary adjustments. And Mike Smith made

624
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: the necessary adjustments. And you know, he was my linebacker

625
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: coach with the Ravens, and he found something in their

626
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: protection and the Jets didn't really make the corrections until

627
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: it was too late. That's why he kept saying the

628
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: free runners getting to Josh mcconowell after they only had

629
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: so how much of that was on the offensive line

630
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: yesterday and how much of that was on other guys

631
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: either tight end or backs in protection adjusting to those schemes. Well,

632
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: that's that's just on scheming, and sometimes you have to,

633
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, adjust as the game go with the game

634
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: is more about adjustment. I would like to see them

635
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, we call it five. Oh you know R

636
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: five one to three four five gonna take their five.

637
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: But what happens is when they bring getting the linebacker,

638
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: then that's really six and that's where the smoking mirrors

639
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: comes in. I would like to see them turn the

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Speaker 1: protection that way. You can see these guys sneaking in

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Speaker 1: the middle in the A gaps. You know, the A

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Speaker 1: gap is the easiest way to get to the quarterback

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Speaker 1: because even if you have a running back off set,

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Speaker 1: it's hard for him to get there because you can't

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Speaker 1: really cut the linebacker because as a linebacker comes, you

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Speaker 1: cut him, he's gonna fall right into the quarterbacks knees

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Speaker 1: and you you're gonna jeopardize your quarterback. You really don't

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Speaker 1: have the angle to come across in front of the

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Speaker 1: quarterback and stop to stop the stop the running because

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Speaker 1: he's coming in a straight line, so he'll run through you.

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Speaker 1: So that's about making the necessary adjustments. What I would

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Speaker 1: have liked seeing the adjustment I would like to see

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Speaker 1: when when the offense is struggling, you have to change

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Speaker 1: the tempo. So I would have liked to see them

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Speaker 1: hurry up the pace, go to no huddle. You saw

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Speaker 1: it later in the game, but when you see it

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Speaker 1: all the time with Ben Roethlisberger, nobody has has you know,

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Speaker 1: beat me more taken more for me than Ben Roethlisberg,

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Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh stillers whenever Ben is struggling, two minute offense,

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Speaker 1: let's go let's get in the rhythm, let's feed up

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Speaker 1: the pace, and they just seemed to go at that

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Speaker 1: same pace expecting a different result. But sometimes it also

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Speaker 1: takes two and three bart Scotts to get bent on

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Speaker 1: a Josh McCown on the ground. Tampa's got a couple

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Speaker 1: of Barts got kind of linebacker. Well, that's that's what

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Speaker 1: I was gonna one Alexander are there was kind of

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Speaker 1: undersized sideline to sideline, missile kind of guys. Those guys

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Speaker 1: are tougher defend. Three things happened on a Sunday. I

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Speaker 1: thought that Jets, obviously we're losing the battle up front.

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Speaker 1: The line was losing the battle there. David was fantastic,

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Speaker 1: and for the first time all season you saw Josh

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Speaker 1: McCown never get into a rhythm over the course of

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Speaker 1: sixty minutes. He never seemed comfortable yesterday until they sped

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Speaker 1: the temple up. But it was too little, too late,

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Speaker 1: because when you changed the temple, then what happens is

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Speaker 1: you get predictable defenses from the defense because the coach

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Speaker 1: really can't change in and our personnel, right, he can't

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Speaker 1: get a call in so they go to their safety calls,

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Speaker 1: and their safety calls are usually a man and man's

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Speaker 1: own or some type of zone where everybody can see,

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Speaker 1: and then you can go into the personnel. When you

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Speaker 1: think about the personnel, that it just happens Farren Jenkins,

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Speaker 1: no matter if he's attached to the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: or you remove him from the line of scrimmage. Those

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Speaker 1: those pass rushing and those blitzers only got about six

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Speaker 1: good plays in them before they start helping and puffing,

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Speaker 1: and then you can't really go with that, so you

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Speaker 1: have to put him back on your heels. What happened yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I feel like Tampa dictated the pace of the game

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Speaker 1: to the offense and not the other way around. And

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Speaker 1: they slowed it down offensively too. That's what we're talking

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Speaker 1: four quarters, man. I felt like I was watching Princeton

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Speaker 1: play basketball already passed before you shoot. I worked with

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Speaker 1: prock Heward. He was Peyton Manning's backup college football wise.

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Speaker 1: Everything What a great what a great job right holding

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Speaker 1: the clipboards for Payton. I mean, how good is that?

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Speaker 1: So he said that nothing's screwed with Peyton more than

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Speaker 1: two linebackers up in the eight gaps with ten on

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Speaker 1: the play clock because he wanted play clock down all

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Speaker 1: the way as far as he could take it. Can

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Speaker 1: I get these guys to tip their hand? Can I

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Speaker 1: diagnose what they're in? I've got ten plays I can

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Speaker 1: go to. I'm gonna pick the right one. And it

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Speaker 1: wasn't so much that he didn't know where they were

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Speaker 1: coming from. But with ten on the play clock or less,

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Speaker 1: do I have enough time to get my protection lined up?

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Speaker 1: Can I communicate to those five guys what I need

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Speaker 1: to get across to them when now I've got nose

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Speaker 1: guard or maybe like a like a zero one technique

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Speaker 1: in two linebackers in the a gaps. He was never

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Speaker 1: and obviously it's not something Peyton Manning was ever gonna

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Speaker 1: say as a player, but he did stay behind closed

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Speaker 1: doors to the guys in Indie. I wonder why more

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Speaker 1: teams don't do that. I wonder why more defensive coordinators

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Speaker 1: don't see all of it's with Rex and all the

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Speaker 1: why'm more defensive coordinators don't see how those two guys

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Speaker 1: on either side of the center are gonna screw with

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Speaker 1: what I wanted segment and his course light He's almost.

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Speaker 1: We might keep him on from one more segment. We'll

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Speaker 1: come right back. Man, he's got to go see his

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Speaker 1: hand for the kids. All right, I'll standing show tonight.

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Speaker 1: If you've missed the beginning, subscribe to the Official Jets

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Speaker 1: podcast and catch Inside the Jets in its entirety in

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Speaker 1: the podcast app, New York Jets dot Com and SoundCloud.

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Speaker 1: We're joined this week by Hall of Fame running back

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Speaker 1: and former Jet Ladania Thomlinson. As he takes talks a

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Speaker 1: little bit about his time with the Jets, as well

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Speaker 1: as well as how it feels to wear that gold jacket.

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Speaker 1: Ladinian Thomlinson, of course, inducted into the NFL Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame last August. Eric Ellen, alongside Bart Scott and the

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Speaker 1: voice of the Jets, Bob was choosing uh. One quick

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Speaker 1: note before UH, we talk a little college football with

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Speaker 1: Bob and look at what the Jets have remaining after

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Speaker 1: the by is this is uh. Robert's last show with

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Speaker 1: us tonight. Who's on the controls over here in the corner.

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Speaker 1: You're not seeing him him at home, but please, but

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Speaker 1: everybody a hair a Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits give Robert

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Speaker 1: a great round of applause. Also, Brittany is back in

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Speaker 1: New York City. She doesn't run this job every week,

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Speaker 1: and fortunately for us, she's not going anywhere as far

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Speaker 1: as I know. Alright, shoes. Uh, when you look at

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Speaker 1: the Jet schedule, Um, what do you think after the

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Speaker 1: bye Carolina is coming to town and then the Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs teams that are desperate for wins. I mean, now,

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Speaker 1: now once we get the Thanksgiving and later partners, this

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Speaker 1: money time in the NFL, that's exactly right. And now

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Speaker 1: you're trying to raise I mean her I'm always called

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Speaker 1: a race to ten. Get to ten. If you get

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Speaker 1: better than ten, you know you're in. Now you're talking

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Speaker 1: about buys, you're talking about home field division titles. But

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Speaker 1: now you're going to get a lot of teams that

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Speaker 1: are gonna be trying to do whatever they can to

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Speaker 1: inch their way to that tenth win. And uh, and

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Speaker 1: the Jets have a bunch of them on their schedule.

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Speaker 1: This Carolina offense is not prolific by any means, but

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Speaker 1: cam Newton can get it done on the ground. Defensively

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Speaker 1: is where they make it happen. Part they remind me

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Speaker 1: of of all the Raven teams our on. It's nothing

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Speaker 1: flash about what they do. But they will beat you

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Speaker 1: up physically, mentally. I mean they're aggressive right off the bus.

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Speaker 1: And then you know it's gonna be tough because they're

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Speaker 1: gonna challenge your manhood. And it's one thing to break

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Speaker 1: somebody mentally, but to break somebody physically, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: tough to do. But they thrive on that. They're a

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Speaker 1: physical football team. You know, you talk about you know,

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Speaker 1: you know the great players they have, you talked about.

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Speaker 1: I think about the line backers, Thomas Davison, Louke Kickley.

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Speaker 1: That's the first thing I'm always talking about when you

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Speaker 1: talk about Carolina. Julius Peppers man, he's like seventy five

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Speaker 1: years old man, but he's like Benjamin Button, he's still

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Speaker 1: getting it in. He's still you know, collapse in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: He still can get to the quarterback and you know

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Speaker 1: he's that he's that inspirational leader for them. Um Carolina,

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Speaker 1: so far, like I said, not gaudy numbers on the

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Speaker 1: ground shoes. They come at you with Jonathan Stewart and

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. But McCaffrey has become a deadly weapon out

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Speaker 1: of the backfield. As a receiver. They drafted him, and

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Speaker 1: they drafted him to be a threat guy. He's not

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Speaker 1: between the tackles runners. He's Danny Woodhead, He's Rex Birkehead.

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Speaker 1: He's one of these guys that you are gonna try

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Speaker 1: to get on a matchup how he's a matchup nightmare.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, I mean, how would you defend him? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, we we you know that brings up another point.

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Speaker 1: I'm remembered or you know, I'm remembering the play in

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Speaker 1: And you have to make sure that if you're going

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Speaker 1: give them certain looks, you've gotta be on the on

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Speaker 1: the same page with everybody on the field. You know,

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Speaker 1: you gotta chip a guy like him. You have to

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Speaker 1: bracket him. You can't try and take away both sides.

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Speaker 1: You can't take the outer way in the vertical way.

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Speaker 1: You gotta take one the other way. To do that,

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Speaker 1: you gotta have your buddy protect you, you know. So

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Speaker 1: going to take the out and if he goes out

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Speaker 1: and up safety you got him. If he crosses my face,

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Speaker 1: you make sure that you make it predictable. You make

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Speaker 1: him predict what he what he has to do. If

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Speaker 1: he's got a two way go on a linebacker, that

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Speaker 1: linebacker is gonna be a big, big trump that's in anybody.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm in and and and and what you

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Speaker 1: want to do? Also, you want to try and force

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Speaker 1: to get him out, So you want to try and

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Speaker 1: force him to have to be you know, pick somebody

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Speaker 1: up in past detection, you give some all out the

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Speaker 1: him to make them have to make the decision to

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Speaker 1: realize that that's the game plan, they may take him

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Speaker 1: who's tough to bring down and who will tuck it

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Speaker 1: not a He's not a very accurate quarterback. So what

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Speaker 1: and man hoping that he's gonna throw a ball you

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Speaker 1: know not you know exactly where it's supposed to be

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Speaker 1: But what that being said is he believes in his physicality,

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be opportunities for guys to get the

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Speaker 1: because you don't attack his throwing arm, then he's going

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Speaker 1: games stretch in the season, Like I mentioned Carolina, then

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Speaker 1: to Mountlife Stadium, followed by trips to Denver, trips to

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Speaker 1: New Orleans. A New Orleans team like we haven't seen

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Speaker 1: the Charges on Christmas Eve, and and then you're in

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Speaker 1: New England. To me, again, this goes back to what

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Speaker 1: I talked about at the start. Why I have looked

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Speaker 1: at this wide angle lens from the beginning. Back in April,

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Speaker 1: everyone said, how many wins you think the Jets will have? Three? Four, five,

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Speaker 1: somewhere in that range. But if they win a few,

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Speaker 1: they'll probably win them early. Look, they got Buffalo, they've

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Speaker 1: got Cleveland. You know, they've got some games at the

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Speaker 1: beginning that they feel like they can win. Then they

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Speaker 1: won them early, and then all of a sudden it

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Speaker 1: became a completely warped set of expectations and we gotta

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Speaker 1: get out of here. Let's see you next week. He'll

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Speaker 1: be back. Today's t