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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Flicking

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Speaker 1: Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back on Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and Matt. Today we'll do a little fantasy football focus

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Speaker 2: here and take a look at Christian cock Rocks. He

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Speaker 2: has his twenty twenty four Fantasy football ranks here.

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Speaker 3: No, such a good conversation, and obviously a lot of

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Speaker 3: this is subject to change. We don't know every coach,

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Speaker 3: we know every quarterbacks. Some of these guys may change teams,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. But if you're having a draft now, these

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Speaker 3: are the guys are going to go early, or if you.

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Speaker 2: Want to start thinking draft thing and always think draft,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah yeah. So coming out of this season, he

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Speaker 2: has Christian McCaffrey number one.

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Speaker 3: I think I would too.

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Speaker 2: It's Tyreek Hill number two.

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Speaker 3: I think I heard be my two.

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Speaker 2: That one might start to get a little scary for.

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Speaker 3: Me though, age and state of the team and all

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Speaker 3: that a little but a monster season.

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Speaker 2: Monster season. But typically trying to repeat that.

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Speaker 3: Is it's tough.

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Speaker 2: It's difficult.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not looking at the list, but would

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Speaker 3: you consider Justin Jefferson had Well, he's number three. I

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Speaker 3: say he was the number one receiver, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, the quarterback situation for a ceed Lamb, I see

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Speaker 2: that is he like the safest of those guys.

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Speaker 3: I say, you know him and Dak will be back

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Speaker 3: for next year at a minimum. Boy, he got used a

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Speaker 3: ton hitting his prime years.

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Speaker 2: If he could keep his mom off of Twitter, did

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Speaker 2: you see That's? I know there's something, but I don't

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Speaker 2: know what the same thing with Michael Parson's brother both

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Speaker 2: they're both ripping Deck Prescott on social media.

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Speaker 3: That's good for the locker room. But I would take

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Speaker 3: Lamb in the top five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. When people talk about like Steeler issue, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: there's there's just so much turboil right locker right, right,

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Speaker 2: you don't have your number one receiver. Same thing, you know,

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Speaker 2: is the same thing happened with Diggs.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's a lot of that going on with

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Speaker 3: his brother and stuff on.

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Speaker 2: Tell your family members to stay off social media.

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Speaker 3: J Watts moms not tweeting for picket.

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Speaker 2: Number five RB two Brisaul.

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Speaker 3: I think that's it's logical. There's a couple of candidates there.

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Speaker 3: But assuming Rogers is back, probably get a little bump

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Speaker 3: on the O line. He was really good without much help.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, numbers. But here's the thing though, I've seen Rogers

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Speaker 2: in his offenses in the past. Just I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to hand the ball off.

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Speaker 3: Oh there's some of that too. Yeah, he won't get

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Speaker 3: his many touches probably.

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Speaker 2: I think the touches go down. Six is up Jean Robinson.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with that, like who the coach is. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: you think he's By the time you have your draft,

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Speaker 2: you'll know seven is Karen Williams.

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Speaker 3: See, I have a hard time with that. I've had

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Speaker 3: this conversation with several people. Is Karen Williams the first

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Speaker 3: time pick next year? If I'd never watched the player

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Speaker 2: Him, finished second in the league and right rushing massive workload.

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Speaker 3: I just don't think he's as good as those guys,

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Speaker 3: you know, like who would rather have a seer Karen

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Speaker 3: Williams or b John Robinson usage It is especially at

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Speaker 2: Why I would be interested in a RAM style offense.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: Agree, he doesn't pit past the sniff test for me, though,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I bet there's I think Garret Wilson ahead

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Speaker 3: on the list, but I would take a bunch.

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Speaker 2: Of receivers, Okay. Number eight is Jamior Gibbs.

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Speaker 3: I'd take Gibbs ahead of them. But he's gonna be

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Speaker 3: a part time player. He's gonna be Camara have some

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Speaker 2: At nine is Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Uh. I mean you gotta think Richardson's the short yardage back.

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Speaker 3: Taylor looked fine, but not great. Didn't play a ton.

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Speaker 3: That seems risky to me too. Yeah, he seems more

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Speaker 2: Ten is Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm back. I mean I'm taking him over those

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Speaker 2: Eleven is aman Ross Saint Brown, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: I mean you talk about he's like Ceedee Lamb. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's a lightly lesser version but so safe.

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Speaker 2: I can't do that.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't like this neighbor.

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Speaker 2: I mean he had a great first half, the second

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Speaker 3: He's a very overrated receiver too. I mean he's a

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Speaker 3: dump off only guy. Real quick to Saint Brown and Gibbs.

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Speaker 3: If their offensive coordinator becomes the head coach of the

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Speaker 3: Panthers or whatever, does it slow you down at all? No,

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Speaker 3: I don't me either. I think they'll keep comming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're just good players.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen A J. Brown.

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Speaker 3: Sure, I mean that's safe. I mean that's I'm taking

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Speaker 3: him over Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen Saquon Barkley free agent. Though, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: He may end up somewhere better he could be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the player deserves to be at that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna be close to that age twenty seven

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Speaker 3: Wall though, I don't know. Again, this is all fresh

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Speaker 3: for me. I just give it some thought. I mean

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Speaker 3: to take any of those backs ahead of these true

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Speaker 3: number one Jamar Chase Saint Brown type receivers, it's hard

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Speaker 2: The fifteen Garrett Wilson.

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Speaker 3: I'm in on him. Yeah, so you got he did

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Speaker 2: You got two Jets in his top fifteen.

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Speaker 3: I know two Lions, which is which is the problem?

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Speaker 3: Which is a problem? Right? At least they're such fun.

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Speaker 2: At least the Lions guys, though have have.

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Speaker 3: Been at first downs and scored touchdowns as a team.

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Speaker 2: You know, we don't know if Aaron Rodgers, we don't

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Speaker 2: know what he's gonna look like next year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how long is he gonna hold up sixteen?

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Speaker 2: Puka Nikua?

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Speaker 2: home run swing. It really is to go that early

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Speaker 2: with your number, your second overall pick for a guy

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Speaker 3: He's from remarkably efficient, but you.

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Speaker 2: Might only have him for six games again next year.

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Speaker 2: It's tiny.

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Speaker 3: Coincidentally, we do a mail bag every Wednesday on my podcast,

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Speaker 3: and they asked, you know, what do you think of

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Speaker 3: these really small skill guys? And I said, you know,

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Speaker 3: I do all this Dynasty stuff and I want nothing

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Speaker 3: to do with Tank Dell. I wanted nothing to do

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Speaker 3: with a Chan and I'm wrong, but they both were

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Speaker 2: You know, like, it's great when they play, it's great

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Speaker 2: or they play they start the game and halfway through

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Speaker 2: or a quarter into the game, you're looking and they're like,

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Speaker 2: why is he hurt? What's going on? Here. Why is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and when they're out there, it's great. And it's

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four. It's better to be a tiny

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Speaker 3: you're getting knocked your head knocked off. But it's still

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Speaker 3: hard to count those guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, eighteen Deebo Samuel is wide receiver nine speaking, that's rich.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a blurb on my phone. He did

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Speaker 2: I don't think he'll. I don't think he plays this weekend.

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Speaker 3: I don't either.

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Speaker 2: They said there's no fracture in there. The fact that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh nineteen James Cook, I think I'm about there

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Speaker 2: Shad White. That seems a little low.

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Speaker 3: For a little low for a good pass catcher, young

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Speaker 3: the Bills and Bucks aren't going to use a top

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Speaker 2: Be at twenty. That means you got a top four pick,

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Speaker 2: so you've got Ceedee Lamb.

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Speaker 3: And in white and white. I like that. Bet that's

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Speaker 2: Those are two really safe.

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Speaker 3: YEA think that'd be better than Taylor and then a

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Speaker 2: Twenty one Chris Olave, I mean a.

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Speaker 3: Little disappointing in terms of his quarterback play didn't help him.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two is Isaiah Pacheco.

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Speaker 3: He worries me too. I think he's a good back.

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Speaker 3: He's a better back than I thought, but it's a

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Speaker 3: little bit of the Ki and Williams. I hold lack

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Speaker 2: And I had to talk to you into keeping him

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Speaker 3: He worries me from a little perspective of just his

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Speaker 3: like his hairs on fire. I don't think he's long

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Twenty three Stefan Diggs. No, yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 3: I mean this sounds terrible, but I hope it comes

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Speaker 3: out that he's getting his ankle scoped or something right now,

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Speaker 3: because he looks he hasn't done anything. He's at one

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Speaker 2: Twenty four Michael Pittman, Yeah, and I think he'll be back.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five Davante Adams.

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Speaker 3: He produced pretty well with terrible quarterback player this year,

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Speaker 3: so he might be quarterback targeting Yeah, like crazy. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Twenty six Kenneth Walker. The injury fine with that injury

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Speaker 3: I think he's a really good player. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven Dj Moore, Yes, Yeah. Twenty eight Brandon Ayuk.

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Speaker 3: Yes, also a free agent. Yeah, I don't think he's yeah.

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine Mike Evans, also a free also.

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Speaker 3: A free agent. Yeah, he's still churning down. He scores touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Thirty Josh Jacobs.

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Speaker 3: He's like Barkley. We don't know where he's playing.

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Speaker 2: We don't know he's playing at. His year wasn't as

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Speaker 2: good as it was two years ago.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I mean he's got a lot of wear

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Speaker 3: and tear. Two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't love that.

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Speaker 3: Like if he ended up in Dallas, he'd be thrilled

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Speaker 3: if Paullard Leaves or something like that, or but he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't know what the situation is gonna be. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean is he is he still the loan back?

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Speaker 3: I guess he's still too, like you're taking him over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was thirty five Josh Allen is QB.

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Speaker 2: Thirty six Keenan Allen is wide receiver a team. We

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Speaker 3: All those touchdowns or massive, it's better for fantasy than

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Speaker 2: I mean, how are you scoring touchdowns? Did the rushing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark Andrews at thirty eight, I think so.

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Speaker 3: I don't think likely hurts him or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: Fine, Yeah, he gets a lot of en zone targets.

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Speaker 2: I can't do that. No, I think he is is

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Speaker 3: No, No, I'd much rather take I'd rather Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather have him as my watch receiver. I'll take

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think two declining or say receiver scares right

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson at forty three.

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Speaker 3: He's the next one out. Yeah, curious quarterback five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, big drop off there. Amari Cooper at wide receiver

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Speaker 3: I never end up with him, but he's pretty good

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Speaker 2: But he's gonna have thirty. Yeah. Watson again, he was

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Speaker 3: It'd be higher than that for me.

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Speaker 2: Ramandre Stevenson is RB sixteen at forty six.

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Speaker 3: I'm still a believer. This is nothing around him. You

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Speaker 2: Tank Dell at forty seven, I'm fine with that. DeVante

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Speaker 3: Eight maybe higher. Yeah, that's about right.

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Speaker 2: He got burned.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you walked out of your draft this past

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Speaker 3: A lot of the number twos on their own team

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Speaker 2: Uh DeAndre Swift at forty nine at RB seventeen, never scores,

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Speaker 3: I'm not excited about any of these running backs at

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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior at fifty yeah, I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 2: Same Flowers at fifty one.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Beckham will be back, and then think

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Speaker 3: it'll be the Flowers and Andrews show.

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Speaker 2: Fifty two is Tony Pollard. That's RB eighteen.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he'll be a cowboy, No, I don't

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Speaker 2: Fifty three is George Kittle at Titans.

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Speaker 3: See like a Pollard or a Jacobs, they're all about

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Speaker 2: You know, Kittle is tight end four at fifty three,

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Speaker 3: Chase Brown will be their starting running back, and I

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Speaker 3: fifty five is t Higgins. I do think he's gonna

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's gonna hamstring them with some other stuff.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think Boyd will be back. I don't

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Speaker 2: Fifty six is Austin Ekelar.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna be a Charger either.

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Speaker 2: Fifty seven is George Pickens, our first Steeler. He's wide

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Speaker 3: I got to ask you who's gonna be the first Steeler?

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Speaker 2: Drafting fifty eight Tray McBride. He's tight end five.

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Speaker 3: I'll gladly buy him at that price. I'd buy him high.

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Speaker 3: I'd take him over Kittle.

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Speaker 2: Fifty nine is Anthony Richardson is twet QB.

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Speaker 3: Five, Wow, he'll be five.

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Speaker 2: That is a quite the leap of faith.

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Speaker 3: Would you take him over Fields?

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Speaker 2: Where's Field's end up at that?

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Speaker 3: You know it doesn't matter?

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Speaker 2: I mean still, it doesn't matter because I trust Fields

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Speaker 3: Would you take them both over Herbert Burrow? I mean,

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Speaker 3: like solid better football players. No, I don't think that

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Speaker 2: Those guys, Well, I say, I say Burrow is much safer.

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Speaker 2: He's been hurt till that. You know.

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Speaker 3: Herbert's missed some time too, but not a lot though,

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Speaker 3: not like Borrow, not like Borrow. But if he's throwing

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Speaker 3: to Higgins and Chase, I'll take him as quarterback five

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Speaker 2: Sixty Jalen Warren over Nausey Harris. Really if I can

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Speaker 2: go there, I don't know if I can't either.

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Speaker 3: I bet he catches more pass These are PPR rankings,

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Speaker 3: I get, I mean they have to be, yeah, but

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Speaker 3: I mean all the touchdowns, Yeah, Yeah, I love Warren

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Speaker 3: it seems a.

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Speaker 2: Little rich sixty one. Jayden Reid, Yeah, that Sarby RB

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Speaker 3: Like really, so you just mentioned Jayden Reid. Yeah, people,

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Speaker 3: I think a mistake that's made. And I know this

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Speaker 3: because of my dynasty background. People don't jump on these

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Speaker 3: Jayden Reid, if he's a number one receiver for the Packers,

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Speaker 3: he's going to be a top twenty fantasy receiver next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just roll through some of these other names.

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Speaker 2: We can get through these. Yere. You got Derrick Henry

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Speaker 2: at sixty two, Calvin Ridley at sixty three, Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: at sixty four, Javonte Williams at sixty five, Dak Prescott

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Speaker 3: I say, I'll think Aaron Jones or Montgomery over some

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Speaker 2: Then you get McLaurin, Nick Chubby chub one yeah, seventy two,

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Speaker 2: Nausee Harris at seventy.

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Speaker 3: Eight, pretty late on haujie.

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Speaker 2: You know he's gonna get the ball RB twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: Get him over Dereck Henry. Yeah, Henry's not going to

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Speaker 2: I'm just looking here to see if there's uh, you

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Speaker 2: got Deontay Johnson at eighty five. He is wide receiver thirty.

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Speaker 3: Eight, so they don't even think he's a starter.

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Speaker 2: Yes, please, I'll take that.

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Speaker 3: I'll take that. Bar u.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Hawkinson's all the way down at ninety one at

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Speaker 3: Pretty good if you good injury news, yeh, skyrocket up.

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Speaker 2: Just looking here. Any more Steelers on the list.

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Speaker 3: I would think. I'm sure Friar Move's noted there.

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Speaker 2: He should be because I think he bounces back. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Oh they're going that low. Yeah, he should be in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, us see there he is. Pat Friar muth is

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Speaker 3: I'm definitely buying at that price. Yeah, absolutely, especially once

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Speaker 3: you know the coordinator.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, and no, I don't see a Steelers quarterback

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Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't think. Yeah and that get.

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Speaker 2: Two hundred deep on this thing. The last player, last

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Speaker 2: two players on here, actually the last three, Well, we'll

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Speaker 2: Adrick asked me, I should.

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Speaker 3: Say that's there, dame kid, right, Yeah, will.

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Speaker 2: Levis at one ninety seven, Jordan Mason at RB sixty five,

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Speaker 3: Going pretty deep. Yeah. A side note if Est to

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you had Day two running back rookies,

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Speaker 2: By the way, Russell Wilson's on here at QB twenty six,

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Speaker 2: and Matt. In the previous segment mentioned Russell Wilson. He's

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Speaker 2: no Steelers quarterbacks listed in those rankings. But Peter King

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Speaker 2: keeps going on local radio and banging the drum that

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Speaker 2: all the Steelers they're gonna go get us Russell Wilson. Now,

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Speaker 2: I can tell you right now, folks, that is just

445
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Speaker 2: a guess. I'm sure he's trying to he's trying to

446
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Speaker 2: create a marriage there that's not there.

447
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Speaker 3: I think you'll end up on some team. You know,

448
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Speaker 3: he end up somewhere. I just don't want to be

449
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Speaker 3: the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be here.

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Speaker 3: I don't either. I thought he had a better year

452
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Speaker 3: this past year than in previous seasons. But I think

453
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Speaker 3: there's a little bit of a Cam Newton effect there.

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Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is someone that's had

455
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Speaker 3: a phenomenal career. You know, Newton won MVPs, Wilson won

456
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl's Orderline Hall of Famer. They're more of a distraction.

457
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Speaker 3: If they're not the man, then you want them to

458
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 3: be too much. They have a presence in the room.

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Speaker 3: Like I mentioned Cam Newton, when they traded for Cam Newton.

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Speaker 3: A year or two later, they traded Steve Smith just

461
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Speaker 3: to get him out of the building because they wanted

462
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Speaker 3: Cam's building. You know what I mean. There's more to

463
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Speaker 3: it than just, hey, can you get a good year

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Speaker 3: out of a once great quarterback.

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Speaker 2: It's bigger than that who's now thirty five, by the way.

466
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Speaker 3: And he's taken a beating for his small body, and

467
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Speaker 3: he doesn't see the field, and he doesn't move like

468
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Speaker 3: he once did to see the field or make plays.

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Speaker 3: I just said he might be with it. He's gonna

470
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Speaker 3: be with a team this year. He may find that

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Speaker 3: no one's really interested and he just rides off in

472
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Speaker 3: the sunset and you know, gets on with his life work.

473
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Speaker 2: Where he could, you know, find himself in a Joe

474
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Speaker 2: Flacco like situation. Somebody gets hurt and then they bring.

475
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Speaker 3: Then you call him up and say, hey, you are

476
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 3: the man now? Yeah you know that again.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing that I think drove Sean Payton crazy

478
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Speaker 2: with Russell Wilson this year. All Right, the twenty six

479
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 2: touchdown passes, great, Yeah, that's better than I would have

480
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Speaker 2: affected only eight interceptions, that's great. But he took forty

481
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Speaker 2: five sacks, Yeah he did. And he's been that guy, yeah,

482
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Speaker 2: throughout the course of his career. Here's this the number of.

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Speaker 3: He can't see he's got to pack the ball a

484
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Speaker 3: half second longer and that doesn't work, and he can't

485
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Speaker 3: avoid him like he used to.

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Speaker 2: He took fifty five sacks two years ago in Denver,

487
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Speaker 2: so he took one hundred sacks and two seasons in Denver.

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Speaker 3: Before that, line's not horrible, No, it's not.

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Speaker 2: They paid money for mc geah right. Thirty three is

490
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Speaker 2: last year in Seattle, forty seven, forty eight, fifty one,

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Speaker 2: forty three, forty one, forty five, forty two, forty four,

492
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Speaker 2: and thirty three. That's who he is, who he is.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize they were that high. Wow.

494
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Speaker 2: He's taken five hundred and twenty seven career sacks. Wow.

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Speaker 3: And frankly, I don't know if his body I think

496
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Speaker 3: his body start to show it. Yeah, and because of

497
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Speaker 3: his style of play, he has to take sacks. Now,

498
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Speaker 3: is there an argument that would the twenty twenty three

499
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Speaker 3: version of Russell Wilson?

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Speaker 2: In fact, I just looked this up. That's the fourth

501
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Speaker 2: most sacks ever by a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: This is Ben Brady and one other guy head.

503
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Speaker 2: On, Aaron Rodgers, Rogers, the guys who have played a

504
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Speaker 2: three every year. They played much longer than.

505
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Speaker 3: Him, played a lot more games than him. I'm just

506
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Speaker 3: curious how many more does Brady have them been?

507
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Speaker 2: But Brady's at five sixty five.

508
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Speaker 3: Imagine it sacked five hundred and sixty five times in.

509
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Speaker 2: Life, and he wasn't in a very say it wasn't

510
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Speaker 2: a quarterback that held no.

511
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Speaker 3: Say, like per game Ben Ben's Mott way higher per game.

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Speaker 2: Actually, Wilson might be higher all of them.

513
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because like Rogers to me, isn't a big sack guy.

514
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Speaker 3: He's just played forever, he never misses time.

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Speaker 2: Wilson's played basically at this point in his career five

516
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Speaker 2: fewer years than Roethlisberger. And how many fewer sacks He's

517
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Speaker 2: only got like twenty five sacks fewer? Wow? Wow?

518
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Speaker 3: And I know Ben miss a little time in there,

519
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 3: but still.

520
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: Well here they got I think we had the games

521
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Speaker 2: played here. So Roethlisberger played two hundred and forty nine games,

522
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Speaker 2: Wilson's played one hundred and eighty eight. Wow, that's a

523
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Speaker 2: huge difference. Like if he sixty more games, if he

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Speaker 2: plays until if Russell Wilson plays until he's forty, actually,

525
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Speaker 2: if Russell Wilson plays until he's thirty eight, yeah, maybe

526
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Speaker 2: thirty seven, he'll be the most sacked quarterback of all

527
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Speaker 2: time at the Rady who at the rate that he's

528
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Speaker 2: been sacked at how many games did Brady play three

529
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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five twice as many He's way, I mean,

530
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Speaker 2: he's in a different like He's not a heavily sacked quarterback.

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Speaker 2: He's played forever. Like he has more sacks taken in

532
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Speaker 2: his career than Brett Fahr, who played three hundred and

533
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Speaker 2: two games and held the ball and held the football,

534
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Speaker 2: tried to make plays. John Elway, Wow, this extreme about Wilson.

535
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah wow. So, I mean you've gotta be willing to

536
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Speaker 2: live with that because that's not going to change it

537
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Speaker 2: this time.

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Speaker 3: Built like Ben or Farv or even Rogers or Brady either.

539
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's a different style. I beg to say

540
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Speaker 3: he may not play again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I just think that that's that's legit,

542
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: that's a that's a legitimate concern. And if your quarterback's

543
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Speaker 2: gonna take three or four sacks every game, m you know,

544
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,719
Speaker 2: by the way, you play Cleveland and you play Baltimore

545
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Speaker 2: and you play Cincinnati, you all have good pass rushes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sucking.

547
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Speaker 2: End well.

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Speaker 3: No, I'd never like to fit from the beginning. I

549
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Speaker 3: like it less and less of as we talked through it.

550
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Speaker 3: And I mean teams tell you what they think of players.

551
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Speaker 3: They have a huge cap hit just to kick him out.

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Speaker 2: I can't do this. I can't. Yeah, Peyton's watched it

553
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Speaker 2: enough and he said, you saw us like video this year,

554
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Speaker 2: Peyton just screaming at him on the sidelines, like what.

555
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Speaker 3: Are you doing? What are you doing? Yeah, And I

556
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Speaker 3: think he's less of a distraction than when he got

557
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Speaker 3: to Denver. Yeah, I mean he had an entourage, needed

558
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Speaker 3: his own wing and all the parking spots and all

559
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 3: this kind of nonsense. I think Peyton said that ain't happening.

560
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Speaker 3: But he's a big personality that's going to always have

561
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Speaker 3: a microphone and camera in his face. And you know,

562
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Speaker 3: I don't think you get him enough out of him. Yeah,

563
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: with the Steelers have won maybe one, maybe two more,

564
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Speaker 3: maybe none, maybe not more games. If Wilson would have

565
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Speaker 3: been the starting quarterback for eighteen games this year, including

566
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Speaker 3: the playoffs, I don't think he gives you a better

567
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Speaker 3: chance to win.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know that he does either.

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Speaker 3: If he's going to do that, and he's not gonna

570
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Speaker 3: play for league minimum, No, he's going to be a captain.

571
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Speaker 2: Because that's that's one of the things that people. Well,

572
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Speaker 2: Denver is paying his whole salary. That doesn't mean he's

573
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Speaker 2: coming here to play for free.

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Speaker 3: No. No, he's still gonna get paid. I mean, he's

575
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Speaker 3: gonna maybe a ten million at.

576
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Speaker 2: Least, he's still gonna won a paycheck.

577
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Speaker 3: Yeah, steps for thirty and he's getting twelve or something.

578
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still going to be a guy that says,

579
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Speaker 2: I'm Russell Wilson.

580
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Speaker 3: Is there any good fits for.

581
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Speaker 2: Whoever Belichick ends up?

582
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Speaker 3: And I could see, like if he's in Atlanta, Yeah, maybe.

583
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: I could see Belichick looking back at that and say, hey, Russ,

584
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: I played against you when you were.

585
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Speaker 3: I remember when you were that guy. We'll get your

586
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 3: running game. Yeah, let's try to win one together. Maybe.

587
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: So I was thinking, like Carolina, because shiny things, give

588
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 3: me another tiny quarterback.

589
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Speaker 2: I don't think that. I don't think they want to

590
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: put that much, that kind of pressure on there.

591
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Speaker 3: I don't think, first overall a terrible move, but I

592
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: think they make terrible moves. You like, if you're the box,

593
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 3: I'd rather roll with Baker. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's

594
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Speaker 3: what Wilson is it this, But I mean.

595
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: The Saints kind of tried another recycled quarterback.

596
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I don't think he's gonna sit behind Alan

597
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 3: or Mahomes and they get hurt. I mean, no, I

598
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 3: don't see a fit for him. Yeah, I don't want

599
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 3: him to be you know, the Commanders or Patriots while

600
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Speaker 3: I draft one of two or three hold down the

601
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 3: fort and be that guy. I don't think that's who

602
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 3: he is. I don't see it.

603
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that to I mean, that's why I just

604
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: look at that, and we've we've talked about the whole

605
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins thing. I just I can't I can't pay

606
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,239
Speaker 2: a quarterback forty million dollars and I don't know if

607
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: he can walk.

608
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, by the time when you sign him, he will

609
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 3: not be healthy.

610
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 2: He will not be healthy and probably won't be healthy

611
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: well into training camp if he's even ready for the

612
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: start of the eight Yeah.

613
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 3: Who's older of the two? They're the same draft class,

614
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: I think.

615
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 2: I think Cousins is already thirty six. Yeah, I think

616
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: or he will turn thirty six in August. I think

617
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: Russell turns thirty six in November.

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Speaker 3: Cousin's a much better player, but he's gonna be way

619
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Speaker 3: more expensive too.

620
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't know if he can play or not.

621
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Speaker 3: If he can play, Yeah, there's too many red flags.

622
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: So you know, the people who want to the Steelers

623
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Speaker 2: go make a big splash and get one of these quarterbacks.

624
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: It's just not realistic.

625
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 3: The only one is Fields, and I don't know that

626
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 3: that's realistic, but I mean the only one that's a name.

627
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about like a Brissette. I mean,

628
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 3: I'd be fine with Brissette. I think Presett and Rudolph

629
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 3: are kind of the same. But the only splash to

630
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: me his Fields, And I'm not psyched about giving up

631
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: a second round pick to do it and then have

632
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: to extend him.

633
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the other thing. I mean, I like Field.

634
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 3: I like Fields a lot.

635
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: I like him a lot.

636
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 3: But he's not without his awards too.

637
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: No, I mean, you know, I can look at his

638
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: career record. He's ten and twenty eight as a starter.

639
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: That doesn't it's not all on him.

640
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: No, he's been in that. Poor guy was in some

641
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: miserable situation, especially its rookie year.

642
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: But you look at that and you say, Kenny Pick

643
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: is fourteen and ten as a starter because he doesn't

644
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: turn the ball over.

645
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, in his field is much more of

646
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 3: a roller coaster. God damn bad.

647
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: Thirty eight career starts and he's got thirty interceptions in

648
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: his career, and we're the fumbles.

649
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: I mean there's I'm sure it's high.

650
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: I'm pretty positive it is. Yeah, to find it here.

651
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: It's his passing numbers. But yeah, I mean because he

652
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: runs around a lot.

653
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, And I mean I like your chances

654
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: better that you have found the guy, the long term guy.

655
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: If it's pick it versus Fields as opposed to Picket,

656
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: Verst Rudolph or Bersett or something like that.

657
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got thirty eight career fumbles too, go along

658
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: with thirty interceptions, Like that's a lot.

659
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot. I mean there's a lot of times.

660
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Speaker 3: He had fifteen carries last year.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, You're gonna play offense much

662
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: differently if if you do that. You know, by the way,

663
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: he's taken one hundred and thirty five sacks, an extreme

664
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Speaker 2: amount in thirty eight career on him and oh my

665
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: bad old lines.

666
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Speaker 3: But boy, he's a long time to throw guy. Yeah,

667
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 3: so it doesn't feel that's one of his biggest week

668
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 3: I mean, not his biggest week.

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Speaker 2: You're completely changing the way that you play offense if

670
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Speaker 2: you if you go get justin Fields and Kenny Pickett

671
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: or Mason Rudolph. Neither one of them or anything like that. Guy. No,

672
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Speaker 2: Mitch Trubisky's not even like that guy.

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Speaker 3: No, no, not at all. If you were to add fields,

674
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Speaker 3: I don't know that I want him running ten times

675
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: a game, But then you'll limit what is effectiveness is.

676
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's as good a runner as Lamar.

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Speaker 2: Then you go then you go hire Greg Roman as

678
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: your offensive coordinator and you say, okay, Greg, do design

679
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: that Lamar offense for us. But we got these two

680
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: great receivers and a tight end we want to use.

681
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're not going to use Trying to expand

682
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 3: the passing game. Yeah, they've thrown twenty five touchdowns over

683
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: the last two years. I mean that needs to go

684
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 3: to forty over two years, fifty over two years. He's

685
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 3: a double Yeah, not go the other way, right, I

686
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 3: Mean they've been a good running team, but the percentage

687
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 3: of passing needs to go up, you know, not down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's just my two cents on the whole

689
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: veteran quarterback. There's options there really aren't. It's not like

690
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Speaker 2: some previous years where there's been a bunch of guys

691
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Speaker 2: out there. I mean, yeah, maybe you could get a

692
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: Jameis Winston. But now you're recycling. Yeah, that's not much

693
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: different than recycling the recycled.

694
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Speaker 3: I mean, weird things happen, you know, like Rogers getting

695
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: traded or I mean, is there the Dolphins decide they're

696
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 3: not going to resign to he's on the market. That

697
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: wouldn't interest me, But there's always one or two storylines

698
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: that we don't project that could come. They're not going

699
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: to resign Dak he's on the market.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, you know.

701
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: I mean, now that's a different story. But of the

702
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: stuff that's available right now, I'm not doing jumping jacks

703
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: for any of it. No.

704
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Speaker 2: I mean, I could understand if you wanted to make

705
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: a move like that, if you but you're you're making

706
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: a dramatic change in how you play, sure, regardless of

707
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: who it is.

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Speaker 3: I mean I mentioned earlier show. I don't think there's

709
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: any chance it happens. But if some reason Herbert became available,

710
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: I'll give you anything one.

711
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: Having a different conversation. But for what's out there right now,

712
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: I can understand why Mike Tomlin said, no, our quarterbacks

713
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: are quarterbacks.

714
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too.

715
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Speaker 2: So anyways, let's get to another break. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the

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Speaker 2: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back to

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Speaker 2: finish up the show right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back on Dale Lollie. He is the Matt Williamson

723
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: and Matt. But he just got some news there of

724
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: your phone, the Dolphins parting ways with Vic Fangio.

725
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and mutually agreeing to part ways, which nice way

726
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 3: of saying you've been around the block. We don't want

727
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: to say you're fired, but you're fired, probably unless he's

728
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: got another gig set up with one of these new

729
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: coaches or I don't know. But he wasn't a problem there, No,

730
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: I a ton of defensive injuries, and really once Ramsey

731
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: came back, their defense quickly became one of the best

732
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Speaker 3: in the league. And then they just started losing guys

733
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 3: left and right. I mean they were signing justin Houston

734
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: off the street at the end. And if he wants

735
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 3: to keep coaching, he'll get hired tomorrow.

736
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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he just couldn't handle being around the boy

737
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: genius anymore.

738
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Speaker 3: I think there's yeah, I think there could be something

739
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 3: to that. Yeah, like I kind of went out of here.

740
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't know that this is where we're

741
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: not going to We're not going to get over the

742
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: top playing this way.

743
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. I wonder if one of these new coaching hires

744
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: is he's just going to go with them. Yeah, maybe

745
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 3: a young.

746
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: Guy or I mean, he'd be great like Tennessee.

747
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I bringing.

748
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: A veteran defensive coordinator.

749
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: Remember when the Rams hired McVeigh, they kept one of

750
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 3: the all time greats. I forget his name, that's stupid,

751
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: but they kept the same defensive courding, kind of like

752
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: Tomlin with Lebou, you know, like and McVeigh was.

753
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: On the offensive, guy you handle the defense.

754
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a young wiz kid, and it'd be

755
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 3: perfect for Tennessee or anything like that. That side of

756
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: balls all yours, VIC.

757
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: So looking here at the weekend's conference championship games. I

758
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: saw this stat the other day and I just wanted

759
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: to drive this one home. So in the last thirteen postseasons, Okay,

760
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Speaker 2: either Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes has started a conference

761
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Speaker 2: championship game.

762
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: Thirteen in a row.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen in a row.

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Speaker 3: That's unbelievable. Well, Mahomes has never missed. This is his six. Yeah,

765
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Speaker 3: and Brady overlapped with him a couple of those.

766
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Speaker 2: He did eight.

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Speaker 3: Wow. I know quarterback wins aren't head to head stats,

768
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Speaker 3: but he would. Mahomes is zero and two against Brady,

769
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: one and one against Burrow, twelve and zero against everybody else.

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Speaker 2: Well the O and two though, there's a little bit

771
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Speaker 2: of a ca to that, because who is the Frank

772
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Speaker 2: If Frank Clark doesn't jump off side?

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Speaker 3: Right right right?

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Speaker 2: They beat Brady?

775
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: They the Patriots. Yeah, and then he lost to the

776
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 3: box's two different teams in the Super Bowl. But that's

777
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: the AFS Championship game and the Super Bowl, right. I

778
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 3: might say this whole the time about Mahomes. A garbage

779
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 3: year for that guy. Is losing this upcoming game. Yeah,

780
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: that's a that's as bad as it gets for that guy.

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00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: I got a feeling they're gonna win. I kind of

782
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,959
Speaker 2: you're gonna give me three and a half. You're gonna

783
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: give me three and a half from Patrick Mahomes.

784
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 3: I don't care who they're playing. Like, I just see

785
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: the definition of insanity. He's doing the same thing over

786
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 3: and over.

787
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: I picked against him last week. I'm not going to

788
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: make that mistake again, right.

789
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: And I just find he just finds a way, man.

790
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 3: So what's crazy is you're already hearing boy with the

791
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 3: Bills disappointing. I mean, are they the the the bride'smaid

792
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 3: of this generation? And I get it, I mean they

793
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 3: kind of are, But there's no shame in that. If

794
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 3: the Ravens lose this week, I'm gonna say the same thing.

795
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: And a two playoff wins with Lamar Jackson.

796
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's terrible, you know. I mean I was

797
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: asked today or this is this version of the bill

798
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: is the same as the Steelers during the Brady ear.

799
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, kind of, except two rings.

800
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they made.

801
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 3: It three times, right.

802
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: That's why when I talk about that era, like getting

803
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: there three times in a career for a quarterback. For

804
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: most quarterbacks, the number of quarterbacks who have played in

805
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: three Super Bowls played in I could count on two hands.

806
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: I believe two of them are Steelers.

807
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah right right, I mean they just aren't that many.

808
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: It's in NFL history.

809
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: NFL history, and it was easier and then yeah, that

810
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: era was easier, right, I mean it's Montana, it's I mean,

811
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: it's the greats. I don't know. I love this exercise,

812
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: and I'm sorry if it's repetitive, but ask anyone you know,

813
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: justin Herbert ever going to win a Super Bowl?

814
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

815
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 3: Maybe? How about yeah? Oh yeah maybe yeah, yeah, probably, Yeah,

816
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: he's great young quarterback Lawrence, Yeah, probably.

817
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: Drew Brees made it once. Rogers has made it once, right,

818
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 2: far have made it once.

819
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 3: And then to even take it up in the leuvele

820
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: Burro gonna win a super Bowl at least one. Alan,

821
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: He'll win a couple. Lamar, Yeah, definitely, can't all do

822
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 3: it only one. They're all AFC quarterbacks, and Mahomes isn't retiring,

823
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 3: you know, Like the answer is maybe one or two

824
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: of those guys will end up with it before long.

825
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,479
Speaker 3: I mean, is Alan gonna play twelve more years? No

826
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 3: playing away?

827
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: He plays?

828
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 3: I mean Lamar and Allen are they going to be

829
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: here ten years from now? Not the same way they're

830
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: playing now, that's for sure. Yeah, it goes by quick.

831
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Speaker 3: And if Mahomes goes to half of them, you ain't

832
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 3: winning anything.

833
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that could change for Mahomes. We'll see. You

834
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: know what it continues to look like moving forward when

835
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: they start losing the Chris Joneses in the in the

836
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: kel season. Guys like that because at least thus far,

837
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 2: they haven't they haven't brought in competent replacements for some

838
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: of those. You know.

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00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I thought the first step was losing Tyree

840
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 3: and they won the Super Bowl that year. But Kelsey

841
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 3: was in his prime, Jones was in his prime. The

842
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: line was way better. But you're right, I mean, is

843
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: Kelsey gonna play even one more year? If so, that's

844
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 3: probably the max.

845
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

846
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: Their two best defensive players are Chris Jones and Snead

847
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: Both are up this year, and Jones already talked about

848
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 3: I want to be the highest pad defense player in

849
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: the league.

850
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: And the offensive line this year was was a problem.

851
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't as much of a strength.

852
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 2: There was the most penalized offensive line in the league,

853
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: and most of that's the right tackle doesn't jumping off

854
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: sides and they could have been called way more times

855
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: with that flying v Yeah, and I don't know if

856
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 2: I don't know how to get away with it.

857
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: I don't know how to get away with it. I think

858
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: it's insane. Do you think Greed coach is much longer?

859
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: Probably not.

860
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: I mean he has a long career of the Eagles

861
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: before he even got here. It's a good gig. I

862
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 3: mean there's no reason to run out. But but Mahomes

863
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 3: is going exactly a picture of health either. No, right, right, right.

864
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: I mean he's had his family unfortunate, He's had a

865
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 3: lot of off the field stuff that's happened to them.

866
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 3: I mean, go get on a you know, put on

867
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 3: a Waian shirt and going to the beach and relax.

868
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, have Burger's on the beach.

869
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Right, But Mahomes isn't going away no matter what.

870
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: No, So Lamar Jackson is probably gonna win the MVP

871
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: this year. Patrick Mahomes won it last year. Their matchup

872
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: will be the third between the last two MVPs in

873
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 2: playoff history, assuming that is the case, joining Tom Brady

874
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: and Patrick Mahomes in twenty eighteen and Brett Favre versus

875
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: Steve Young in nineteen ninety five.

876
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: Wow, what might happen more? Though you would think it would?

877
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah interesting in playoff history. We're not even talking about

878
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 3: like Conference championship any.

879
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so the NFC championship game will feature a

880
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: guy who was the first overall pick in twenty sixteen

881
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: versus a guy who was the last overall pick in

882
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two.

883
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 3: Of course, that's the first time that ever happened.

884
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: The first time, right, I mean, that's how that just

885
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 2: doesn't happen.

886
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, party's probably played a couple of games.

887
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 3: He's played, definitely played a lot of games like that.

888
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: So I keep saying this one and they're talking about

889
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: you know, the Baltimore Ravens have won I think they

890
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: won nine games against teams with winning records this year

891
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: by fourteen or more points. Wow, which sounds great.

892
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, they lost the Steelers twice.

893
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: They lost to the Browns.

894
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: You know, if your familiarity is definitely important.

895
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, if your team is willing to go in there

896
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: and match their physicality, they're not going to blow you out.

897
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: If you don't know this, don't worry about it. But

898
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: if the Chiefs played them lately, I don't think so.

899
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: I can't remember a matchup between them. It can't be

900
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 3: too long. They're both AFC teams, But I don't they

901
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 3: didn't play this year.

902
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: They didn't play last year.

903
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: I don't think they played last year. And I'm just

904
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: thinking it is a young defense. They've drafted like crazy

905
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 3: in Kansas City. A lot of those guys probably have

906
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: not played Lamar. Yeah, you know, I mean I think

907
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: that's an advantage for Baltimore.

908
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: The running back who had won the rushing title, Okay,

909
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: has not won the Super Bowl since two thousand and five,

910
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 2: Seawn Alexander has not gone to the Super made not

911
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: made to the Super Bowl. Obviously they lost that year.

912
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: The only rushing title winners to win a Super Bowl

913
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: were EMMITTT. Smith three times and Terrell Davis in ninety eight.

914
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: Wow, even like Franco Or, I mean, in lead the

915
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: league in the league, and let did I take a

916
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 3: lot from that.

917
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I still think you have to have a

918
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 2: running game. Yeah, and it has to be that you

919
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: don't have to necessarily have the guy.

920
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: You don't have the best back in the league. But yeah,

921
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: you know, I'm sure a lot of teams got awful close.

922
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 3: You know that with elite backs.

923
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: One other thing to keep in mind here before we

924
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: go for the Ravens Chiefs game. Yeah, everybody's gonna talk

925
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: about the offenses and the quarterbacks.

926
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 3: In that game, the defense might be better than the offense.

927
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: The two best scoring defenses in the league this year

928
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 2: were the Baltimore Ravens and the Kansas City Chiefs.

929
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: I didn't Chiefs for two, right, Chiefs were two. Yeah,

930
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 3: I didn't realize there were two. I knew they were

931
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: top five. Yeah, that's a great group. Are both healthy

932
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 3: on that side of the ball. And I don't think

933
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 3: it'll be a low scoring game.

934
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 2: I don't think there's going to be a thirty played

935
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: in the thirties either.

936
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: No, I don't either. We're not expecting much weather, right,

937
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think it's gonna be like

938
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 3: this in price loppy, yeah, yeah, right, okay, interesting.

939
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. But when people talk about, well, the steel I

940
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 2: keep seeing this one. The Steelers aren't close to any

941
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 2: of these teams they beat. They beat the number one

942
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: seed in the ANFC twice. Yeah, twice.

943
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: So we did a lot of Steeler draft talk yesterday

944
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: and mock drafts. And they take a corner, so they

945
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 3: take a tackle, blah blah blah, and the answer is

946
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 3: undecided at this point, it's certainly incomplete. But if they

947
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: could spend money slash draft picks and make this defense

948
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: like a top five defense, they'll be in it. Yeah,

949
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, I don't care if

950
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: you take a tackle, receiver, anybody on offense. You run

951
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 3: it back with what you got with a stud corner

952
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: and two other pieces.

953
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: Jay Watton is prime.

954
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: And if you can be a top five defense with

955
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 3: what you have at offense, you'll be in it.

956
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: Again, we talked about it all last offseason. If they

957
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: have a league average offense in the top five defense,

958
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: you're gonna be pretty good.

959
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're I'm almost saying, like if you're

960
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 3: I'm not saying this is what they should do. But

961
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: if their off season goal was just one thing, I'm

962
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 3: going to build a stud defense. Yeah, I'm using almost

963
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: all my resources this offseason on secondary right. Wow, you know, like.

964
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: Essentially that's what Cleveland did this year. Yeah, except their

965
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: defense didn't travel.

966
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, their d line was horrible.

967
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: Their offense. Their offense was twenty ninth in the league.

968
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, they took them a long way. Yeah yeah, and

969
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 3: they didn't show up in the playoff game.

970
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, So anyways, yeah, that's gonna do it. For

971
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: today's show, we got more to talk about. With the

972
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: conference championship games coming up. We're to talk about the

973
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 2: Steelers off season as we continue to roll along here,

974
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: but well we'll do that, We'll save that for another

975
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: day for my partner Matt Williamson for CJ Woofley here

976
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: on site keeping us on the air. I'm Dale Lollie.

977
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Speaker 2: We thank you for listening to this edition of the

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Speaker 2: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.